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He looked half burned and, like, half
decomposed.
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This is very bad. Like, I think I'm
dying.
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My marriage is in trouble.
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He's always angry, it seems, when he's
here.
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You love your wife? I feel like
something here is working against us.
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Uh -oh. I think I'm really, really hurt.
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Like, I just want to walk away and just
look back.
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It's not a good situation.
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He wants everyone to just leave. He
wants to be left alone.
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He wants the person dead.
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My name is Amy Allen.
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I see dead people. I saw a winged
creature.
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I speak to dead people, and they speak
to me.
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This person feels like a monster.
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But there's only one way to know if my
findings are real.
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They are sucking the life out of these
people.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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So how many bodies are we talking? And I
know every person, every house has
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secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But
Steve and I never speak.
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We never communicate during an
investigation. Until the very end.
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You're not going to like this.
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When we uncover if it's safe for you to
stay. I'm sorry. I need to take a break.
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We're timed to get out at once inside
the house because I want to kill you.
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I'm here in the coastal city of
Bluffton, South Carolina. It's a couple
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south of Charleston.
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I got a call from a small business owner
named Michelle.
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And she sounded real upset.
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Tells me whatever's going on inside her
restaurant is destroying her health and
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her marriage.
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Desperate. My husband and I were
desperate.
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We have a lot of activity here.
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I don't think we're going to be here
very much longer.
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My heart goes out to Michelle. And I'm
hoping we can help her out so she
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have to shut down her family business.
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Oh, boy.
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I am very anxious here.
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It's like to the point where I'm
shaking.
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I don't know why, but it's making me
very upset and anxious.
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So, Michelle, when I drive up and I look
at this place, I'm like, well, she's
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living the dream. She has her own
restaurant.
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But you sounded pretty desperate on the
phone.
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I am desperate.
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We took this place over about four years
ago.
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Okay. We've been really successful here,
but it's coming at a huge cost.
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My marriage is in trouble.
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The only explanation can be paranormal.
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Can you do me a favor and just give me a
list of what's going on here?
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We hear voices, mood swings, mood
changes. We see apparitions.
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We feel like you're constantly being
watched and my health.
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It's deteriorated.
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What's going on with your health?
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My health has suffered really bad.
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I had a heart attack.
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I had a stroke.
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I was recently diagnosed as a type 1
diabetic.
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I have vertigo.
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I have all over pain.
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So I got to tell you, Michelle, I can't
believe this help list of issues you
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have. Yeah, it's embarrassing.
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Well, it's not embarrassing.
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I mean, you think the paranormal's
causing this?
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It's the only thing that makes sense to
me. You said to me that the paranormal
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here is trying to wreck your marriage.
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I mean, what do you mean by that?
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He's always angry, it seems, when he's
here.
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He thinks everyone's out to get him.
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He's a little paranoid, depressed,
quiet, withdrawn.
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Now, what about you? Have you had these
mood changes?
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I don't get angry. I get really
depressed.
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Okay. I don't feel well when I'm here. I
don't want to be here.
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What do you think whatever is here
wants?
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I just felt like whatever it was just
didn't want us here. And it was going to
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do that just by making him miserable
until he just left.
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Or making me sick enough until I was
dead.
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I'm sorry.
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Thank you.
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Sometimes I feel like it's going to be
okay, and then sometimes I feel like we
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just need to leave.
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Have you thought about that?
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We have, but we've put everything we
have into this place.
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We don't have really a lot of options.
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I'm seeing a lot of dead people around
me.
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Yeah, there's a lot of... Dead here,
man.
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They're coming like this?
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These are some men.
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I don't know why there's so many dead
here. I don't know. It's weird.
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There are a lot of dead that are coming
and going around here.
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They want to leave.
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They're mainly trying to get help,
trying to get people's attention.
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What's going on in here?
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A lot happens in the bar.
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In this area in particular, you feel
like you're always being watched, like
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there's always, you know, someone here.
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It's a really uncomfortable feeling.
Okay, so while we're sitting here, do
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feel this now?
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I feel something. I don't feel the same
as if I were alone.
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Okay, so anything else?
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Sometimes I'll be seated at the end of
the bar, and I'll see a shadow walk from
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the kitchen to the door.
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Obviously, this is a main road out here.
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Mm -hmm.
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Couldn't have been something going by on
the road?
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No, because it's different. This clearly
looked like a person walking on the
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other side.
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Do you think you're going a little
nutty? Sometimes.
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I see one tall shadow figure to the left
and then a
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bunch of little shadow figures.
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The two, like, adult -sized ones both do
seem to be female -shaped.
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If people were to interact with them or
see them, it would be mostly out here in
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this area.
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And what is it they'd see?
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They would see shadows, all different
heights.
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It's making me very upset and anxious.
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Okay, so anything else?
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Every single employee of mine, including
myself, has fallen in this restaurant.
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Has everybody fallen in the same place?
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Yes. There's two locations. One is right
here in the bar in this area.
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Okay. And the other place is going from
the dining room into the hallway to the
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kitchen. So there's no liquid on the
floor or anything like that causing it?
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In the bar, two people have actually
said they feel like they were pushed.
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So did anybody get badly hurt? The one
girl ended up going to the hospital. She
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didn't work for a few weeks.
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Are you concerned that since it's now
going after employees that it may start
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going after customers?
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Absolutely, yeah.
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So with everything you're telling me,
Michelle, it sounds like...
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Trying to save the business you love,
the man you love.
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But it also sounds like we may be trying
to save your life here because it
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sounds like you're in danger.
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And as the years go on, I feel more and
more like that.
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Any idea why there are so many dead
here?
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The dead just don't rest here.
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They don't move on.
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They need assistance.
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What kind of effects would all of this
traffic have on a living?
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I think they would have quite a lot of
experiences.
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It would be very draining for them, I
think.
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This is just a weird thing that I've
encountered.
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It's just inexplicable. It's just
bizarre.
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So, Alexandra, I understand you work
here.
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I do. Have you had experiences here?
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Yes. Okay, so let's talk about one of
them. One night I was sitting at the bar
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with my coworkers, and I got poked.
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You got poked where?
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I got poked in the middle of my shoulder
blade.
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Okay, on your back?
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Yeah. Could something have fallen from
the ceiling? I mean, there's palmetto
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bugs. This is the South.
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Could anything have hit you?
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No. No, this was a poke from the back.
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Okay, so anything else?
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I see the apparition of two different
women. Do me a favor and tell me about
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first one.
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She appears to be a showgirl.
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Something you'd see in Vegas, like at a
show? Yeah, it reminds me of that.
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So now you said there was a second one.
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That is an older woman with a little
girl.
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Okay. They're around the 1800 type
period.
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What do you think the entities that are
here want?
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I think they want to occupy the space,
and I think they want to take over
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anybody who's here.
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There's a woman and she's wearing this
dress and it reminds me of like a
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pageant kind of dress.
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I'm seeing another woman besides the one
in the pageant dress.
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She's looking very much like a bar girl
out of the Old West.
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The woman in the pageant looking dress
very much tried to be seen.
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She says that she's knocking a lot.
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So I'm assuming she's knocking on the
bar.
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The other thing is, is I think there's a
living female who's seen this dead
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woman.
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I think she freaked out.
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This other woman, who I think was a
prostitute, she does stuff in the
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bathroom.
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I think she chooses the bathroom to make
people, you know, it's the most
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uncomfortable. You know, people are the
most vulnerable.
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Yeah.
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Julio, it's good to see you.
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Congratulations on all the success of
the restaurant. I hear you guys got a
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bunch of awards.
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But it sounds like it came at a price
with all the paranormal stuff going on
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here. Yes, we've been having a lot of
problems.
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What's going on? What have you
experienced?
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Okay, do me a favor and tell me about
them.
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Really?
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So you've seen a lot of these shadow
figures?
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You're surprised you haven't ran out of
here? I bet you it has.
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What else is going on?
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All right, now you're sure it's not some
employee messing around with you?
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Anything else?
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Okay.
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Show me what it might sound like with
the dishes. Can you do that? Sure.
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Like that. All right, so that's
annoying.
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I know you have a lot of truck traffic
out here. Could the truck traffic, the
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weight of the truck, make these things
rattle?
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No, because they are heavy.
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I encountered a dead male.
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He's in his death state.
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So he's sitting on, like, a wooden
rocking chair. He looked, like, half
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and, like, half decomposed.
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He's wearing a vest and he's got a hat
on.
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And I said, you know, what do you want?
And he said he wants everyone to just
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leave. He wants to be left alone.
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This seems to be more where the dude in
the rocking chair hangs out.
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I think he does do things in this area
to try to get
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people out of here.
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She says he's like throwing, he's making
extremely loud noises.
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You know, to me it almost sounds like if
you took the pots and the pans and
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you're banging them together, you know,
like metal on metal, you know what I
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mean? Like bang, bang, bang, clatter,
clatter, clatter, clatter, clatter. So
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that's his thing.
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That's his situation.
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Anything else?
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I get a lot of mood changes.
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Michelle told me about this.
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Describe what kind of mood changes we're
talking about.
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Just out of the nowhere, I get really
angry.
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Okay. And I don't know why, but if I'm
not angry, I feel kind of like
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Okay. But just when I'm here.
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When I talk to Michelle, she actually
thinks that your marriage is in danger
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with all this mood stuff going on. Yes,
I've been thinking to leave everything,
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to leave my wife, the restaurant, the
house. I mean, I get to walk.
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Do you love your wife?
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Yes, I do.
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And you don't want to leave her?
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No.
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Do you think whatever's here is putting
these thoughts in your head?
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I
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just
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feel really weak.
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I feel like I can't control my legs.
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This is coming from the guy in the
rocking chair.
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I don't think that this would be a very
comfortable area to be in. Would the
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living have any experiences with this?
You definitely feel fear, an insane
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amount of fear and anxiety.
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So I did some digging, and it turns out
Michelle and Julio's restaurant sits
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right in the middle of an old
plantation.
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I'm heading over to meet a local author
who says the place ended up literally
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going up in flames.
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So, Dr. Rowland, I appreciate you
meeting with me and helping me out with
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case. So let's get down to it. Who owned
this plantation that my client's
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property is built on? The Colleton
family.
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They acquired it in 1718 after the
Indian Wars.
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Did this Colleton family live on the
plantation and oversee everything? How
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it work?
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No, they lived near Charleston. They
left the work to the overseer and
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maybe 100 slaves on that plantation.
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That's a lot of slaves, though.
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So what were the living conditions like
if they didn't live there? Did they have
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a house for the overseers, or how did it
work?
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Yes, they would have had a large house
for the overseers and small cabins on
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street for the slaves.
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So, Doctor, you mentioned on the phone
to me that the plantation literally went
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up in flames. What year did that happen?
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1779. Okay, so do the Colletons still
own the property when it went on fire?
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Yes, it was owned by Louisa Carolina
Colleton, and here is her portrait.
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All right, so, Doctor, what caused the
fire?
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The British Army.
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on their way to Charleston in 1779,
burned the houses, stole the goods,
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destroyed the crops, and laid waste to
the country.
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So, Doctor, you mentioned there was
almost 100 slaves on this plantation.
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What happened to them? Did they die in
the fire? I mean, did they get taken
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prisoner? Many would have left with the
British Army. Some of those would have
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found freedom in Canada and Sierra
Leone. Okay.
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And many died.
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Whatever happened to Louisa Carolina?
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Louisa Carolina died in 1823, and her
son inherited the property, mostly
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destroyed, and he had to sell it off to
pay debts.
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All that money the Carlton family had
was for nothing.
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Pretty much disappeared, yeah.
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So I'm just hearing, oh no, there was
land, land, and land.
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I'm seeing some not well -made places.
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Like I'm just seeing wood and tiny
wooden structures.
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They're very small. I see like maybe a
handful of these wooden
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structures. Then there's something else.
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I don't know what that is. It's a bigger
structure.
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I mean, it's better than those like
shacks.
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And then I saw...
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Some fire and everybody was scattering.
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So I just got a call from a journalist
I've worked with before.
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He says something happened in 1913 that
put a target on every black man in
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Bluffton. I'm heading back to Michelle
and Julio's restaurant to find out
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exactly what happened.
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So, Barry, thanks for meeting with me. I
appreciate it. So before we get to what
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happened, what can you tell me about
this town during that time period?
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Bluffton in 1913, Bluffton, South
Carolina, was about 50 years out of the
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devastation of the Civil War. Okay. The
black people who lived here were Gullah
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Geechee. They were from West Africa.
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They were the descendants of black
slaves, and they were farmers, and they
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a lot of money doing it.
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All right, so this had to piss a lot of
people off. Absolutely.
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Racial tensions were fairly tough in the
area.
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Barry, do me a favor and tell me about
this unrest.
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On June 11, 1913, a white woman claimed
that a black man had come into their
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home, accosted her, put his hands around
her throat.
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She was able to escape and run to a
neighbor's home and gave a description.
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What did she describe him as? She
described him as a black man,
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six feet tall, about 30 years old.
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All right, so, I mean, how did everybody
react to what happened?
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Well, they were up in arms immediately.
The white citizens from the area started
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rounding up posses, started looking for
every black man in the community as a
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possible suspect.
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All right, so I take it that they're
just going around picking up any black
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on the street and taking him in. That's
right, and that included a black
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constable who was here with a detective,
E .F.
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Hammond, from the state police. They
were out looking for these suspects, and
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this black constable was...
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Basically arrested by some of these
posses twice before he said, I'm out of
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I'm leaving.
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So let me get this straight. There's a
black constable working to try to figure
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out what the hell is going on.
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And even he became a suspect. And he
became a suspect. That's right.
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Okay. After the black constable left
town, Detective Hammond continued
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for a suspect.
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And he encountered a black man named
William Jackson.
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Okay. He attempted to take Mr. Jackson
into custody.
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Mr. Jackson ran away.
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and Detective Hammond shot him in the
back.
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Okay, was this our guy?
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Absolutely was not. Not only was he not
the right guy, he was 52 years old.
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All right, so this guy's at least 20
years older than the suspect.
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That's right.
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All right, so they killed this guy for
nothing.
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Right. All right, so whatever happened
to Hammond, the guy that shot William
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Jackson? His shooting was deemed
justified, so nothing happened to him.
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All right, so what about this guy that
did attack this woman?
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Did they ever find him?
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No.
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Do we think it was all that she made it
up? It's a distinct possibility.
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So there's one male that's joining me.
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He's probably in his early 70s.
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He's a black male. He's telling me there
was something going on.
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One night that was really not good.
People were freaking out, and, you know,
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people were running.
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This incident was more around, like, the
1920s, and it killed two
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or three people or something.
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He is feeling guilty.
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He didn't intend for things to go that
way.
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He showed me he was back here.
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He feels he's been seen.
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Like is he doing things to people to try
to get them to leave?
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So far, I've got a couple who believes
the paranormal is destroying their
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marriage and their business on a
property that was once a plantation
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by British soldiers.
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But I want to see if there's anything
else.
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Searching through the archives, I come
across the brutal murder of a local rock
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star. Turns out this guy's death shocked
not only the community here, but music
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fans around the world.
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So I managed to track down the cop who
responded to the scene. He promised to
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give me a first -person account of what
happened. Now, he tells me there are
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still parts of this case that haunt him
to this day.
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Walt, I appreciate you meeting with me
and helping me out. So I understand the
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victim in this murder case was a local
celebrity?
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Yes, sir. His name was Anthony Tony
Hooks.
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He was a musician, and I got a picture
of him right there.
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This is him? Yes, sir.
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I grew up in the 70s. This looks like
Sly and the Family Stone.
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Is that who he played with? Yes, and
George Clinton and the Ohio Players.
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This guy played with them?
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Yeah, he got around. He was pretty.
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Pretty well known. I'd say pretty
famous.
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Bluffton's a pretty small town.
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Did you know Tony?
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Tony and I basically both grew up here.
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We were friends.
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Okay, let's move on to the murder. When
did it happen?
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Happened in 1988, January 31st. I was
working for the Bluffton Police
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Department. Okay, so take me through it.
What happened?
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Okay, it was late night, early morning.
I was sitting there with windows rolled
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down, beautiful night.
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And heard a gunshot. You heard the
gunshot? Heard the gunshot. Probably 1
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yards from right here when I saw a set
of headlights leaving the scene, you
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know, the area.
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So I immediately turned around on the
car.
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And as we came up to Highway 46, I
attempted a traffic stop.
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The car turned.
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Went towards Savannah, Georgia. I
immediately fell in behind him, told my
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dispatch, you know, basically I'd heard
a gunshot and I was trying to stop this
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car. Okay, so you're assuming this guy
is the shooter.
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Yes. You try to pull him over, he takes
off, you give chase.
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Yep. We continued towards Savannah, so
the Savannah PD set up a
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barricade. Okay. And when he came
through, they got in the car, stopped
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him out.
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And he was arrested by Savannah,
Georgia.
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Lawrence went over from South Carolina.
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Okay. So where exactly did the murder
take place?
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The front porch on this house.
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This house here? Yes.
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Do we know what kind of weapon it was?
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A shotgun.
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Okay.
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I'm seeing the murdered man in the
rocking chair again.
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Uh -oh, uh -oh.
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Somebody's in front of me.
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Totally caught off guard, you know what
I mean? Was not expecting that at all.
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It's dark.
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And I'm scared.
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What the hell was that? Like, I totally,
like, felt that.
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Any idea when it was? I think this was
pretty recent.
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I'm thinking, like, I got hit. I got,
like, punched in the stomach.
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And then I'm feeling very bad.
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I think I'm really, really hurt, really
bad.
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I feel like the person went that way,
who did this, it's another male.
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This is very bad.
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Like, I think I'm dying.
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All right, so this is where Tony Hooks
lived and where he was murdered. Yes.
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So now the guy that killed him, who was
he? What the hell was this all about?
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The guy's name was Peter Hines.
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He was from Hilton Head, and he was a
musician over there.
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Now, you mentioned on the phone that
something about this case haunted you.
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was that all about?
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Nobody knows why. I never found out why.
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We don't have a motive. Nope.
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Whether it was maybe jealousy or...
Never. Never got an answer. All the
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investigations just never came up with
anything on that.
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So did he do any time? He was arrested,
was tried, was found not guilty, reason
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of insanity.
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You kidding me? Tony really never got
justice.
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Wow. That's so sad to hear. Still think
about it. It's got to be an answer
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somewhere, and I hope someday I get to
find out what.
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During my walk, I saw several disturbing
things, but two concerned me the most.
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First, the group of dead people heading
toward the restaurant.
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I saw 10 to 15 people.
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The majority were men.
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And some were like kind of following
with purpose towards me.
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Next, the murdered man in the rocking
chair.
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The left side of his face is kind of
decomposing. The right side
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looks burned.
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So he had a big, deep...
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pot with a long handle and he was
banging that.
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Just make sure that his right hand looks
burned.
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Amy, is this what you saw?
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Yes, that's what I saw.
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Now that Amy and I have completed our
investigations, we're ready to reveal
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findings to each other and our clients
for the first time.
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So, guys, this is Amy.
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She's going to be doing a reveal in a
separate room so she can focus on your
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case and the dead without any
distractions.
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Amy, meet the owners of this restaurant.
This is Michelle and Julio.
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Now, they are a married couple for now.
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Things are so bad that they believe
their marriage and even their lives are
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danger.
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And even though they've poured their
hearts into this place, if you can't
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them, they're ready to close the place
down and walk.
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So unless Amy's got some questions for
you, we should close about a walk.
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Before I even came inside, there were a
lot of dead people
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coming towards me. I kept hearing land,
land, land.
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Then I saw a few wooden structures, not
well built, and
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another structure that was fairly large,
and it was better condition than the
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other little wooden shack thing.
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Then I was shown a fire. I just
literally saw fire.
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I was shown people running.
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So Amy, you said you kept hearing land
and land over and over again. I think I
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might know why.
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00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:15,930
Now,
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you mentioned you saw fire, right? Yeah.
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So in 1779, during the height of the
Revolutionary War, the British came
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here on their way to Charleston.
Everything in the area was looted and
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the ground.
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The enslaved people ran off, hoping to
find their freedom.
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So is it possible this could be what you
might be running into? Yeah, that's
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very possible, yeah.
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What do these dead people want?
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Most of them want to leave, but they're
stuck.
469
00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:04,180
I did have a sketch done of what I saw.
470
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,940
Christ, this looks like something out of
a movie.
471
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,060
Oh, God.
472
00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:24,480
The way it feels. I think I imagined,
like, it would be something like that.
473
00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:27,380
So, Amy.
474
00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:32,250
What would it be like for people to
always be around like this many dead
475
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:39,150
Consistent exposure to them could make
you sick and could drain you pretty
476
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:43,450
severely. So, Michelle, when we spoke,
you told me you're 52, but you feel like
477
00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:44,209
you're 82.
478
00:31:44,210 --> 00:31:45,830
Tell Amy what's going on with you.
479
00:31:46,390 --> 00:31:51,810
When we were getting ready to reopen two
years ago, I had a heart attack.
480
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,290
I was only 50.
481
00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:55,290
I then had a stroke.
482
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:03,940
That makes sense because that's a lot of
dead energy that could drain you.
483
00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,740
Okay, so what else?
484
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,860
I saw a lot of shadow figures. Two of
them were female
485
00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:24,080
-shaped, and then the rest were smaller,
like their children.
486
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:27,680
So it made me very uneasy and kind of
shaky.
487
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:30,720
And I feel like people would see them.
488
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,900
I would sit at the end of the bar at the
end of the night, and you would see
489
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:37,640
this shadow. I would think it was him.
490
00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:49,500
So are
491
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,960
these the same shadows that are outside,
or is it different?
492
00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:56,950
There's so many dead people, so it's
hard to say.
493
00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:01,630
So what else?
494
00:33:03,290 --> 00:33:09,010
The next two people I'm going to talk
about quickly are two females. One woman
495
00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:13,870
looks like straight out of the 80s, like
pageant circuit.
496
00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:19,970
I saw her rapping on the bar, so like
making knocking noises of some type.
497
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,660
Second female that I encountered, she's
from a long time ago, like, you know,
498
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:33,740
late 1800s. She hangs out in the
bathroom, especially the male bathroom.
499
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,640
She likes to make people feel very
uncomfortable.
500
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,060
That's her thing.
501
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Amy, their employee, Alexandra, she's
actually seen both those apparitions.
502
00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:46,940
Oh, okay.
503
00:33:47,550 --> 00:33:52,130
She described the one female as like a
showgirl, and the other one she said was
504
00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:54,630
older. So she saw both of them. Okay.
505
00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:59,490
Would you mention the men's rooms? We
never talked about it, but have you had
506
00:33:59,490 --> 00:34:01,030
experiences back there? Oh, yeah.
507
00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:02,750
It's definitely palpable.
508
00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:06,890
Like, you know something's there with
you. That sound like something this
509
00:34:06,890 --> 00:34:07,890
would do? Yeah, yeah.
510
00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:09,409
She's delightful.
511
00:34:15,170 --> 00:34:16,250
So what else, Amy?
512
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:24,179
The last person that I'm going to talk
about, he is definitely an issue.
513
00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:31,280
When I first encountered him, he showed
me him sitting in an old
514
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,420
wooden rocking chair.
515
00:34:32,699 --> 00:34:39,139
I mean, probably from the late 70s,
early 80s. I got that he was murdered.
516
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,940
It was extremely unexpected.
517
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,040
I think I'm really, really hurt really
bad.
518
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,380
I feel like the person went that way,
who did this, it's another male.
519
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,080
This is very bad. Like, I think I'm
dying.
520
00:34:56,340 --> 00:35:00,160
Now, Bluffton's a small town, right?
Most years, they don't even have
521
00:35:00,380 --> 00:35:04,980
But what you are describing to me sounds
a lot like a homicide I came across in
522
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:09,460
research. Anthony Tony Hooks was a
famous guitar player from Bluffton.
523
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,160
This is the guy right here on the
bottom.
524
00:35:15,259 --> 00:35:19,300
Now, he played with George Clinton, the
Ohio Players, Sly and the Family Stone.
525
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:21,640
I knew who this guy was. I never knew he
got murdered.
526
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,180
On January 31, 1988, Hooks was in his
little house right near here. So about
527
00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:30,640
o 'clock at night, a local musician
named Peter Hines showed up at his door.
528
00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:34,840
Now, Hooks answered, and Hines just shot
him in the chest with a shotgun.
529
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:41,200
Hines took off and was later arrested
and tried, but he was found not guilty
530
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,200
reason of insanity.
531
00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:44,080
He didn't serve a day in jail.
532
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,810
What? So I talked to the retired cop who
actually helped arrest him that night.
533
00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:52,330
He says the murder still haunts him to
this day because nobody to this day
534
00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:53,490
has a clue why he did it.
535
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:54,770
What? Yeah.
536
00:35:54,990 --> 00:35:57,530
Amy, do you think Hooks could be the
dead guy who's here?
537
00:35:57,850 --> 00:35:58,850
Yeah, it could be.
538
00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:02,310
You said you were very concerned about
this guy. How come?
539
00:36:02,650 --> 00:36:07,750
He's pretty angry. He does not want
anyone here. And I saw him, like, in the
540
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:08,750
kitchen area.
541
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:12,310
He's making extremely loud noises.
542
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:17,130
You know, to me, it almost sounds like
if you took the pots and the pans and
543
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:20,210
you're banging them together, you know,
like bang, bang, bang, clatter, clatter,
544
00:36:20,330 --> 00:36:22,470
clatter, clatter, clatter. So that's his
thing.
545
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:26,510
And that I had a sketch of what I saw.
546
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:36,510
Wow.
547
00:36:39,490 --> 00:36:41,830
I feel like somebody was there.
548
00:36:42,490 --> 00:36:48,430
I just didn't expect that it was there,
like, all the time, and that I actually
549
00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:50,990
was sharing the space with him.
550
00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:54,270
You mentioned to me about hearing the
plates and stuff.
551
00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:59,970
A lot of times I hear the plates moving,
the doors opening and closing.
552
00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:02,190
Tell her about your stuff going missing.
553
00:37:02,590 --> 00:37:08,090
Sometimes my knife disappears, and then
I look for it, like, for an hour, and
554
00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:09,910
finally when I give up.
555
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:12,540
You know, like looking for it, it just
appears.
556
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,880
It makes me feel like really
uncomfortable and, you know, like it
557
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,380
really the creeps.
558
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:26,240
So Amy, this guy is so physical. I'm
wondering if he might be responsible for
559
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,380
tripping employees in the hallway by the
kitchen.
560
00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:34,920
Every single employee that we've had has
tripped at least
561
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,820
once where they've gone down on the
ground.
562
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:40,870
Not good at all.
563
00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:43,970
Remember when I said these guys'
marriage is in trouble?
564
00:37:44,410 --> 00:37:48,910
Michelle believes Julio has changed.
He's become angry and irritated all the
565
00:37:48,910 --> 00:37:52,250
time, right? So I'm wondering if that
could be the influence of this dead guy.
566
00:37:52,490 --> 00:37:54,430
Do me a favor. Tell Amy how you've
changed.
567
00:37:54,970 --> 00:37:58,470
Since we got here, my personality
started to change.
568
00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:03,330
I'm turning, like, really antisocial,
either angry or depressed.
569
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:08,450
He was angry all the time, and he would
have these outbursts, and he would yell,
570
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:11,730
and he would say really, you know, not
nice things.
571
00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:19,190
It's highly likely that you and this
dead guy are meshing with one another,
572
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:21,530
you're taking on all of his anger.
573
00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:25,150
It makes sense.
574
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:28,370
We have no reason to fight.
575
00:38:29,330 --> 00:38:32,690
I just want to walk away and just done.
576
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,138
Look, Bart.
577
00:38:34,140 --> 00:38:36,420
It's not a good situation.
578
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:59,380
So, guys, the South has a lot of
history, and unfortunately, it seems
579
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:00,580
guys are still dealing with it.
580
00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:04,970
But now let's answer the big question.
Can you keep this restaurant open
581
00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:07,730
And can you guys get back to a happy
marriage?
582
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:11,030
For that question, I'm going to turn it
over to Amy.
583
00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:15,690
The first thing that I would recommend,
584
00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:18,890
a medium should come to the restaurant.
585
00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:26,470
This medium should be an attractive
female who is
586
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:29,930
also very firm in their approach.
587
00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:38,050
dead male will respond more favorably if
this is the type of individual
588
00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:39,870
that approaches him.
589
00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:42,890
Is she going to move this person on?
Yes.
590
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:50,730
Now, while this is taking place, Julio
should be at the office or
591
00:39:50,730 --> 00:39:53,270
location of a Reiki practitioner.
592
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:59,670
Now, what this person will be doing is
cutting all cords and ties.
593
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,280
with this dead male.
594
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:10,020
The second day, a few psychics and
mediums should come and
595
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:15,320
move on all the dead who want to move
on.
596
00:40:16,060 --> 00:40:21,700
The third day, have the Reiki master
come to the restaurant.
597
00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:28,520
Now, what she will do is cleanse the
entire restaurant and then placing up
598
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,600
protective barriers.
599
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:34,710
And that will keep out all the rest of
these dead people.
600
00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:39,610
You look stunned.
601
00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:41,850
It's just, it's a lot to process.
602
00:40:42,110 --> 00:40:43,550
And it's just overwhelming.
603
00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:46,330
The question I always ask is, are you
going to take Amy's advice?
604
00:40:48,110 --> 00:40:49,290
Absolutely. Yeah.
605
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:50,730
Yeah.
606
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:55,550
It feels like for the first time in a
long time that, you know, there's hope.
607
00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:58,630
Don't lie to me. I wouldn't. Okay.
608
00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:03,930
I'm really happy with everything that we
found out today.
609
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:08,250
And we definitely want to do everything
that Amy did.
610
00:41:08,490 --> 00:41:10,930
Okay. She's already snuggling up on you.
611
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:12,530
He's like, oh, no.
612
00:41:14,830 --> 00:41:17,970
First time I've seen you two smile since
I got here.
613
00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:20,830
I love you. There you go.
614
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:23,830
See, now that makes me feel better.
615
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:28,170
I really hope.
616
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,960
Michelle and Julio contact a medium to
remove the murdered man, as well as all
617
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640
of the other dead who are stuck inside
their restaurant.
618
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,320
I believe once they're cleared out and
Julio works with the Reiki master, their
619
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,220
relationship and their business will
grow stronger than it ever was before.
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