Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:10,340 --> 00:00:14,320
Something was left for dead, but then it
came back.
2
00:00:15,180 --> 00:00:19,140
They're feeling the anger that's
associated with this thing.
3
00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,380
Something had to hold them in,
definitely.
4
00:00:22,180 --> 00:00:25,980
I think it either wants me to harm or
maybe even kill someone.
5
00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,180
Physically shaking them, trying to wake
them up.
6
00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,040
There were five murder -suicides very
near your client's property.
7
00:00:35,380 --> 00:00:36,960
All she's being driven.
8
00:00:37,810 --> 00:00:40,930
By now is revenge and rage.
9
00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:42,870
I knew it was me.
10
00:00:44,270 --> 00:00:45,750
I don't like it in here.
11
00:00:45,950 --> 00:00:47,570
Like, this is the worst place.
12
00:00:49,630 --> 00:00:51,230
It wants the person dead.
13
00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:53,090
My name is Amy Allen.
14
00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:55,010
I see dead people.
15
00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:56,950
I saw Halloween creature.
16
00:00:57,670 --> 00:00:59,530
I speak to dead people.
17
00:00:59,790 --> 00:01:01,230
And they speak to me.
18
00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,920
This person feels like a monster.
19
00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,020
But there's only one way to know if my
findings are real.
20
00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,340
They are sucking the life out of these
people.
21
00:01:11,020 --> 00:01:12,480
I rely on my partner.
22
00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:15,960
I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
23
00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,180
So how many bodies are we talking? And I
know every person, every house has
24
00:01:21,180 --> 00:01:25,880
secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But
Steve and I never speak. We never
25
00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,860
communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
26
00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:30,440
I'm not going to like this.
27
00:01:31,070 --> 00:01:34,950
When we uncover if it saved you to stay.
I'm sorry, I need to take a break.
28
00:01:35,730 --> 00:01:39,530
We're timed to get out at once inside
the house because it wants to kill you.
29
00:01:52,570 --> 00:01:56,630
So I'm out here in the tiny town of
Grand Washington. It's just south of
30
00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,660
I got an emotional call from a woman
named Brandy. Now, she's convinced
31
00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:03,360
whatever's in her house has possessed
her fiancé.
32
00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:07,380
She told me if Amy and I don't get there
soon, it's going to rip her family
33
00:02:07,380 --> 00:02:09,360
apart. Hopefully, we're not too late.
34
00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:19,420
I don't really feel good about this.
35
00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:25,420
There's a lot of negative energy being
sent my way and, like, blocking.
36
00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:27,940
I feel blocked.
37
00:02:30,460 --> 00:02:31,480
What's blocking you?
38
00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:38,640
I believe it's a living female who
doesn't necessarily want me
39
00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:42,040
here. They're more than likely
telepathic.
40
00:02:48,220 --> 00:02:52,960
So, Brandy, I got to tell you, pulling
up to your house, this is a quaint home
41
00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:53,960
you have here.
42
00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,730
But it sounds like... When we spoke on
the phone that you're just at the end of
43
00:02:57,730 --> 00:02:58,870
your rope here. I am.
44
00:02:59,610 --> 00:03:02,070
There's something attacking my family.
45
00:03:02,270 --> 00:03:03,630
I need to find out what it is.
46
00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:06,390
All right, so Brandy, who exactly lives
in the house here?
47
00:03:07,050 --> 00:03:08,730
My son Trevor, who's 29.
48
00:03:09,130 --> 00:03:10,130
Trevor's here in the black?
49
00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:13,450
Yes. My fiance Mark and myself.
50
00:03:14,610 --> 00:03:16,690
Tell me about the experiences you guys
all have.
51
00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:19,270
We experience mood changes.
52
00:03:20,150 --> 00:03:21,390
We see shadow figures.
53
00:03:22,130 --> 00:03:23,890
And now it's physically violent.
54
00:03:24,730 --> 00:03:27,130
Let's start with the mood changes. Who's
getting affected?
55
00:03:27,570 --> 00:03:29,210
Mark usually gets the deepest.
56
00:03:29,530 --> 00:03:33,150
It's more of a, so dark, like a rage.
57
00:03:33,670 --> 00:03:37,130
You made a bold statement to me and you
said, you know, you think he's
58
00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:41,610
possessed. I think he, something has a
hold of him, definitely. He changes, he
59
00:03:41,610 --> 00:03:44,450
goes dark, like his eyes change.
60
00:03:45,790 --> 00:03:46,890
He's a different person.
61
00:03:47,650 --> 00:03:48,650
And what about Trevor?
62
00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:50,930
He isolates himself.
63
00:03:51,450 --> 00:03:53,190
What about you as far as mood changes?
64
00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,700
I get sadness, fits of sadness that come
through me.
65
00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,240
Okay. Extremely powerful.
66
00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,200
What do you think the intentions are of
whatever it is?
67
00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,120
It's trying to make us hurt each other.
Okay. I really believe that. I believe
68
00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,640
that it's taking the energy out of us,
and all it's leaving is aggression and
69
00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:18,459
anger. That's got to scare you. It's
terrifying, and it's hard to keep the
70
00:04:18,459 --> 00:04:20,500
family together with it being like that.
71
00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,300
I am feeling like a lot of pain in my
stomach.
72
00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:32,040
Living people here are feeling unusual
amounts of anger.
73
00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:39,920
And like people who are more sensitive
get the rock of hatred that almost makes
74
00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,920
you want to vomit.
75
00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:44,360
Does it make them prone to any kind of
action more or anything?
76
00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,280
It is a pretty intense anger.
77
00:04:48,460 --> 00:04:53,180
So it is a possibility that they may act
out on it depending on the individual.
78
00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,200
I'm still trying to figure out where all
this anger is coming from.
79
00:05:05,220 --> 00:05:08,520
This is where most of the activity
happens for me.
80
00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,660
Okay, so tell me about some of the stuff
that's happening.
81
00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:18,220
There's an entity in here that sits on
my legs almost every night.
82
00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,460
So are you asleep when this happens?
83
00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,720
Sometimes. Sometimes I'm awake.
Sometimes I can look down and watch it
84
00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,720
my leg.
85
00:05:25,820 --> 00:05:26,860
Okay, anything else?
86
00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,740
When I'm asleep, something will shove me
and wake me up.
87
00:05:31,980 --> 00:05:33,060
So it feels like a hand.
88
00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,380
Yeah, it does.
89
00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,180
It feels like a very strong hand.
90
00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,280
All right, so do me a favor. Show on me
how you're getting shoved.
91
00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:46,560
All right, so... Enough to wake you up.
Yeah, so it's a little bit annoying, to
92
00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,940
say the least. It startles you.
93
00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:49,300
Okay.
94
00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,380
I'm seeing, like, a little lady.
95
00:05:54,900 --> 00:06:01,640
She's probably, like, late 70s. And
she's like, why are you in my
96
00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,640
house?
97
00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:08,180
She's a little confused.
98
00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:09,960
What do you mean?
99
00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:12,400
She doesn't know she's, you know, dead.
100
00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:15,620
She's extremely stressed about it.
101
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,360
She's trying to wake.
102
00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:18,699
People up.
103
00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:21,540
So it's the living she's trying to wake
up? Yeah. This is bad.
104
00:06:24,580 --> 00:06:25,580
All right, what else?
105
00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:32,800
Several times I've woken up to a huge
shadow figure walking around the side of
106
00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,920
the bed or hovering over Mark at night.
107
00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,640
So does this have human form?
108
00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:43,960
The top of it is shaped kind of like the
shape of a head and shoulders.
109
00:06:44,260 --> 00:06:46,480
Okay. Actually, Mark asked me to draw.
110
00:06:46,910 --> 00:06:47,910
For him, what I saw.
111
00:06:47,970 --> 00:06:50,150
And I have a sketch that I did.
112
00:06:55,190 --> 00:06:56,770
So this is you and Mark.
113
00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:58,670
Yes. And this is the end of the year.
114
00:06:58,950 --> 00:07:00,130
Yes. What do you think that is?
115
00:07:01,270 --> 00:07:05,310
I think it's evil. I think it's been
here for a long time.
116
00:07:05,630 --> 00:07:07,810
Do you think that's what's taken over
him?
117
00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:08,549
I do.
118
00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:11,530
Okay. I do. I think it's influencing him
in a horrible way.
119
00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:14,890
I'm afraid to even ask you if there's
anything else going on.
120
00:07:15,150 --> 00:07:16,330
But what else?
121
00:07:16,670 --> 00:07:18,850
I've been waking up with painful
scratches.
122
00:07:20,090 --> 00:07:22,830
Okay. On my neck, my arm, my chest.
123
00:07:23,250 --> 00:07:25,370
I have a couple of pictures if you want
to see them.
124
00:07:27,930 --> 00:07:30,070
This one here is of the one on my chest.
125
00:07:30,670 --> 00:07:33,070
And that one is on the side of my arm.
126
00:07:33,450 --> 00:07:36,810
Could the cat be jumping up on the bed?
No. They're definitely not like cat
127
00:07:36,810 --> 00:07:39,150
scratches. Are you allergic to anything?
128
00:07:39,530 --> 00:07:40,530
No. Okay.
129
00:07:41,010 --> 00:07:43,030
You got a lot going on here. Is there
anything else?
130
00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:44,330
I get bad nightmares.
131
00:07:44,770 --> 00:07:45,810
Any that you can remember?
132
00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:52,780
One night I had a flash of Mark up
against the wall with a
133
00:07:52,780 --> 00:07:53,940
gunshot to his head.
134
00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,960
This is a dream to happen.
135
00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,340
Yeah, they felt like warning.
136
00:07:58,260 --> 00:08:03,360
I don't like it. I don't want it to hurt
my family. I want my family back, and I
137
00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,360
want it to stop.
138
00:08:04,820 --> 00:08:06,680
Because we worked really hard to get
here.
139
00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:08,780
Took a lot of love.
140
00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,340
This old woman.
141
00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:21,820
Like they're physically feeling her
shaking them, shaking them, trying to
142
00:08:21,820 --> 00:08:22,820
them up.
143
00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,820
She is running around and physically
interacting with the living, pushing on
144
00:08:27,820 --> 00:08:28,840
them, shaking them.
145
00:08:29,220 --> 00:08:32,200
There's a sense of urgency and panic.
146
00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,280
I'm getting a lot of very vivid
nightmares.
147
00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:45,210
It's a possibility that they might be
having some kind of dream about this
148
00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:48,270
elderly woman or whatever she went
through.
149
00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:51,490
Terrible, terrible.
150
00:09:15,850 --> 00:09:19,650
So, Mark, I was talking to Brandy today,
your fiancée, and she was explaining
151
00:09:19,650 --> 00:09:23,690
how the paranormal in the house here is
attacking everybody.
152
00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:24,990
Do you agree with that?
153
00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:26,190
Yes, I do, actually.
154
00:09:26,570 --> 00:09:31,330
Brandy also told me that whatever's here
in the house seems to be attached to
155
00:09:31,330 --> 00:09:32,710
you or influencing you.
156
00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:34,190
Do you agree with that?
157
00:09:34,410 --> 00:09:36,250
Yeah, it's definitely affecting my mood.
158
00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:41,570
I think it either wants me to harm or
maybe even kill someone.
159
00:09:42,170 --> 00:09:45,820
Okay. What experiences have you had,
though, that you could talk about?
160
00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,720
When I'm here, I'm drained of energy.
161
00:09:50,660 --> 00:09:52,040
I get confused.
162
00:09:52,260 --> 00:09:54,000
Okay. And I get depressed.
163
00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,060
When I'm away from here, I'm great.
164
00:09:56,380 --> 00:09:57,700
All right, so anything else happening?
165
00:09:58,140 --> 00:10:02,240
Yes, lately I've been waking up with
strange scratches on my body. Here, I'll
166
00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,240
show you.
167
00:10:05,740 --> 00:10:07,800
Randy showed me some pictures of
scratches, too.
168
00:10:08,220 --> 00:10:10,320
This one was of my leg.
169
00:10:11,150 --> 00:10:14,130
It was on the front of my thigh, and I
can't explain where it came from.
170
00:10:14,430 --> 00:10:18,530
Okay. What's the cause? This one was on
my back, on my shoulder.
171
00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:20,530
You're not allergic to anything?
172
00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:24,370
No, I get hay fever, but... Nothing that
would cause this? No.
173
00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:26,110
What else?
174
00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:32,050
Brandy says that I've been sleepwalking,
which I've never been a sleepwalker.
175
00:10:32,210 --> 00:10:38,830
She says that I have nightmares to where
I'm curled up in a defensive position,
176
00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:40,610
yelling out.
177
00:10:41,420 --> 00:10:42,660
No. Get away from me.
178
00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,800
Are you taking any sleeping medications
that might cause you to do that?
179
00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:47,920
No, I don't take any medications at all.
180
00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:50,420
Okay. What are you hoping we can do for
you guys?
181
00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,940
Hopefully you can give us some answers
on how to fight this thing so that we
182
00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:58,380
be happy and live our lives so I can
have my family.
183
00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,680
It's upsetting to you. I can see that.
184
00:11:01,180 --> 00:11:02,180
Very much so.
185
00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:15,630
Sorry. No, don't be sorry.
186
00:11:16,030 --> 00:11:21,970
Listen, it's more than reasonable for
you to be upset about it. I appreciate
187
00:11:22,850 --> 00:11:26,690
If Amy says you got to get the hell out
of here, would you go?
188
00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:31,290
If it's going to be what's best for my
family, I'll figure something out.
189
00:11:32,350 --> 00:11:33,350
Okay.
190
00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:36,710
Big guy, big guy.
191
00:11:38,050 --> 00:11:42,930
Just see him like a big guy, drinking
alcohol and feeling very angry.
192
00:11:45,620 --> 00:11:47,240
I feel like he's alive.
193
00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:53,420
So I think that the living in here would
feel an insane amount of anger and then
194
00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:54,420
nausea.
195
00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,280
What is making the living so angry here?
196
00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:03,960
I'm seeing something in the ground
coming out.
197
00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,560
Somebody's saying death and somebody's
saying suicide.
198
00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:15,580
And then I am seeing a gun.
199
00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,540
I don't like it in here. Like, this is
the worst place.
200
00:12:27,340 --> 00:12:32,300
So, Trevor, I was talking to Mom today,
and she was telling me that she feels
201
00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:37,400
the paranormal activity in this house is
so bad that somebody's going to get
202
00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,660
hurt. I mean, do you agree with that at
all?
203
00:12:40,180 --> 00:12:42,740
Yes. I feel like it's just been getting
worse and worse.
204
00:12:43,390 --> 00:12:46,270
Do me a favor and tell me about some of
the experiences that you've had.
205
00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:49,850
So the first time we came in to see the
house, I had this overwhelming feeling
206
00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:50,850
of just being watched.
207
00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:56,310
Okay. And being compelled to not go into
certain areas of the house. Do you feel
208
00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:58,390
that way more in certain spots or is it
all over?
209
00:12:58,910 --> 00:12:59,930
It's in certain spots.
210
00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:01,430
Which spots are we talking about?
211
00:13:01,670 --> 00:13:02,589
The spare room.
212
00:13:02,590 --> 00:13:04,330
This one here behind me? Yeah. Okay.
213
00:13:04,950 --> 00:13:08,330
And also on the outside, there's the
back left corner of the yard.
214
00:13:08,570 --> 00:13:11,850
For some reason, I just don't have any
want or...
215
00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,160
Desire to go over there.
216
00:13:13,300 --> 00:13:14,500
Okay. Anything else?
217
00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,420
I also seen a giant black figure staring
at me from the spare room here.
218
00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:20,559
Over here?
219
00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:21,560
Yes.
220
00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,420
It was about seven or eight feet tall.
221
00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:28,160
Okay. Is there any way that shadow could
have came from outside?
222
00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,560
No way. It was darker than the darkness
of night.
223
00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,400
Your mom thinks that whatever's in this
house is trying to possess Mark.
224
00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,720
Do you see that?
225
00:13:37,980 --> 00:13:41,580
I definitely see an influence on him. He
hasn't become violent with us.
226
00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:44,510
But it's that type of rage. So it's
scary.
227
00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:45,710
Yes.
228
00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:49,370
What the?
229
00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:52,490
Something out there, back left corner.
230
00:13:54,330 --> 00:13:56,130
In the back left corner.
231
00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:57,629
What is that?
232
00:13:57,630 --> 00:13:59,210
I just feel blocked.
233
00:13:59,710 --> 00:14:01,210
What the fuck is going on?
234
00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:03,090
Like left for dead?
235
00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:07,830
Something in the back left corner, like
left for dead?
236
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,640
So it's dead and then buried, but then
it came back.
237
00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:21,800
I'm seeing a human form doing that, not
an animal.
238
00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,740
It feels animal.
239
00:14:25,340 --> 00:14:32,280
I believe it was a person who just kind
of is now functioning
240
00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,500
like an animal. I think this dead
person's causing all of the anger here.
241
00:14:39,619 --> 00:14:46,460
Everybody, I feel on some level, are
feeling the anger that's associated with
242
00:14:46,460 --> 00:14:49,020
this thing. Angry, very, very angry.
243
00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,440
I made my usual calls when I got to town
and just heard back from a local
244
00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,070
genealogist. She tells me a previous
owner of Brandy's land dropped dead
245
00:15:11,070 --> 00:15:12,070
on the property.
246
00:15:12,690 --> 00:15:16,370
She says this guy lived such an
interesting life, I'm definitely going
247
00:15:16,370 --> 00:15:17,370
to hear about it.
248
00:15:24,270 --> 00:15:27,970
So Mary, I appreciate you helping me out
with this case. This guy who died on my
249
00:15:27,970 --> 00:15:29,450
client's property, who was he?
250
00:15:29,770 --> 00:15:34,530
His name was Arnold Ruther. He was born
in 1919 in North Dakota.
251
00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,420
So on the phone, you mentioned that this
guy had an interesting story.
252
00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:39,619
What did you find out?
253
00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:41,760
He left home at about age 16.
254
00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:47,620
He went to Seattle in 1943, and he met a
woman there, Frances Manzer.
255
00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,420
Whirlwind romance. They married about
three months after they met.
256
00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:53,140
It was right in the middle of World War
II.
257
00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:58,560
Right. As many men of his generation
did, he joined up World War II just six
258
00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,040
months after they were married.
259
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,040
He enlisted in the Navy.
260
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,220
and he worked on a tank landing ship.
261
00:16:05,540 --> 00:16:06,920
Okay, so he definitely saw action.
262
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,280
Yeah, his ship was stationed in the
South Pacific, and I'm sure he saw the
263
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,280
horrors of war.
264
00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,100
I am seeing some kind of cemetery.
265
00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,000
Very strange.
266
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:30,020
I counted about 15 or 16 headstones, and
I was told
267
00:16:30,020 --> 00:16:31,860
that they're unmarked graves.
268
00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:37,330
I see a man.
269
00:16:37,950 --> 00:16:43,470
He is dressed in, like, this weird
military outfit.
270
00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:47,410
I think the graves have something to do
with him.
271
00:16:49,270 --> 00:16:52,270
All right, so Mary's in the ward. When
does he return to stateside?
272
00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:57,250
He was discharged in 1946 and came back
to this area.
273
00:16:57,690 --> 00:16:59,490
When does he buy my client's property?
274
00:17:00,140 --> 00:17:04,920
He and Francis lived in a house right
next door to your client's property.
275
00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:12,180
Okay. In 1975, he was looking to expand
his land. He wanted to farm, and so they
276
00:17:12,180 --> 00:17:14,020
bought the property to raise livestock.
277
00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,460
So, Mary, I know Arno died while he was
living on my client's property. What
278
00:17:19,460 --> 00:17:24,900
happened? In October 1994, Arno had a
massive heart attack, and Francis
279
00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:29,320
frantically called for an ambulance to
come, but they were late.
280
00:17:29,710 --> 00:17:33,710
and by the time he got to the hospital,
he was dead on arrival.
281
00:17:33,930 --> 00:17:37,510
My father died of a massive heart
attack. I guarantee he died before he
282
00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:41,290
ground. Right. What a shame, especially
for Frances to see that. I think it was
283
00:17:41,290 --> 00:17:43,250
really hard feeling so helpless.
284
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:47,170
All right, so Frances is left now a
widow.
285
00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:50,970
What happened after that? She stayed on
the property for a couple years.
286
00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:56,690
In 1996, she had your client's house
built on the property.
287
00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:58,810
Okay, so she built my client's house.
Right.
288
00:17:59,260 --> 00:18:04,660
I don't know whether she lived there or
not, but either the property was too
289
00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:08,860
much or the memories were too much for
her to stay there. So she sold the
290
00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:09,860
property in 1997.
291
00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:14,220
She moved a few miles away, and she died
in 2008.
292
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,380
She was 84 years old.
293
00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:19,380
Okay, so 84, she probably died of
natural causes.
294
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,280
Do we know if she ever remarried?
295
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,020
No, she did not. Okay.
296
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,340
I'm seeing that little old lady again.
297
00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:32,930
She's, like, freaking out about, like, a
truck that's driving up.
298
00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:35,870
There's panic about this truck.
299
00:18:36,170 --> 00:18:37,650
She's saying 1996.
300
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:44,770
The house, though, looks really, really
different through her eyes.
301
00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:51,690
I'm going to say that she did live here,
but it's really, really different.
302
00:18:53,010 --> 00:18:55,310
Her mind is very, ah.
303
00:18:57,710 --> 00:19:01,710
I reached out to my old friend, Walter
Jeff Davis. He tells me he can't explain
304
00:19:01,710 --> 00:19:05,730
it, but there have been a series of
murder -suicides in Brandy and Mark's
305
00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:10,010
neighborhood. He tells me one of them
really stands out and might help my
306
00:19:10,010 --> 00:19:11,010
investigation.
307
00:19:16,990 --> 00:19:20,250
Jeff, I appreciate you helping me out
once again. It's good to see you. Good
308
00:19:20,250 --> 00:19:23,210
see you, too. All right, so, what'd you
find out?
309
00:19:24,010 --> 00:19:30,410
I am sad to say that in a 10 -year
period from 2009 to 2019, there were
310
00:19:30,410 --> 00:19:33,230
murder -suicides very near your client's
property.
311
00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:37,950
That's a lot. I mean, I've worked on my
fair share of murder -suicides, but
312
00:19:37,950 --> 00:19:38,949
that's in a big city.
313
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:40,190
Yeah, yeah, not expected.
314
00:19:40,490 --> 00:19:44,490
You said one case really stood out. Tell
me about it. I've got a case that
315
00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:46,190
involves an entire family this time.
316
00:19:46,610 --> 00:19:52,150
Sometime after midnight, March 13, 2018,
an Air Force airman named Clinton
317
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:53,520
Field... Called 911.
318
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,760
Okay. And he reported that he just
killed his 33 -year -old wife, Samantha,
319
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,840
4 -year -old daughter, Ava, and his 2
-year -old son, Ashen.
320
00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,220
Oh, jeez. Did he say anything else?
321
00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:09,540
Yeah, he almost made an apology. He
thanked the police for their courtesy,
322
00:20:09,540 --> 00:20:12,380
he also said, by the time you get here,
I'll be dead too.
323
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,460
He hung up the phone, and by the time
the cops arrived, he was dead. He shot
324
00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:21,140
himself. All right, that's pretty
vicious, murder -suicide.
325
00:20:21,660 --> 00:20:24,860
All right, so do we have any idea why
this maniac did this?
326
00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:31,060
According to investigators, it may have
had to do with an impending divorce, and
327
00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:33,120
he may have been suffering from
depression as well.
328
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,220
You know, murder -suicides happen all
the time, but when you involve kids,
329
00:20:36,220 --> 00:20:37,220
sickening.
330
00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:43,320
I'm like hearing a woman screaming.
331
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,980
Like, oh, God, like she's, like, dying.
It's like a moment, like, dying.
332
00:20:51,950 --> 00:20:56,510
I am hearing somebody talking about a
death.
333
00:20:59,210 --> 00:21:01,850
Somebody mentioning suicide.
334
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:04,970
This is suicide.
335
00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:07,250
Like, it's screaming.
336
00:21:07,690 --> 00:21:09,170
What the fuck is going on?
337
00:21:10,170 --> 00:21:11,870
Oh, God, help me.
338
00:21:21,130 --> 00:21:24,710
For more information about the show, and
if you need us to investigate
339
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:29,230
unexplained activity in your home,
please visit TravelChannel .com slash
340
00:21:29,230 --> 00:21:29,969
Dead Files.
341
00:21:29,970 --> 00:21:33,450
Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit
your story, and we'll help if we can.
342
00:21:41,070 --> 00:21:44,490
So far, I've got a client convinced
something in her house is possessing her
343
00:21:44,490 --> 00:21:48,430
fiancé on a property near the site of
several different murder -suicides.
344
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,880
But I want to see if there's anything
else.
345
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,860
Searching through the archives, I find
something very interesting about an army
346
00:21:56,860 --> 00:21:59,140
base that's about a mile away from
Brandy's house.
347
00:21:59,420 --> 00:22:03,500
Turns out, one of the training fields
there has been used as a dumping ground
348
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:04,940
for dozens of murder victims.
349
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,160
A military base seems like a real
strange place where people would be
350
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,160
dead bodies.
351
00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:15,180
So I reached out to a local journalist
who covered this story, and he says the
352
00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:16,480
location is very remote.
353
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:20,520
He also says there's one case in
particular I definitely got to know
354
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,820
Sort of spot with all of the bodies.
Where exactly is it?
355
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,440
It's a training area known as Fort
Lewis. That area is known for being a
356
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720
ground for countless murder victims.
357
00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:40,260
We've got areas like that in New York.
358
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:41,919
Nobody's around.
359
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,780
They guys know it, and that's where they
dump the bodies.
360
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,880
You mentioned on the phone, with all
those bodies, you found a specific one
361
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,880
be interested in.
362
00:22:49,180 --> 00:22:50,280
Who was the victim?
363
00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:54,040
The victim was 17 -year -old Noreen
McNicholas.
364
00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:00,080
Okay. And disappeared on November 5,
1948.
365
00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:02,340
All right, so what happens after that?
366
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:08,040
A month into the investigation, a boy's
dog catches the scent and starts digging
367
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,180
around a marshy area.
368
00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,650
Hidden underneath the mossy area... was
Noreen's nude body.
369
00:23:15,210 --> 00:23:17,190
Did the autopsy show how she died?
370
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:21,990
The coroner report said that she was
badly beaten and strangled to death.
371
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:23,430
Did they like anybody for this homicide?
372
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:29,490
The case went fairly cold for several
years, and then we had another break,
373
00:23:29,490 --> 00:23:30,490
that's when it gets weird.
374
00:23:30,690 --> 00:23:32,510
So how's the other break come about?
375
00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:36,990
It was a strange situation where two
enlisted servicemen took their dates to
376
00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:37,689
same park.
377
00:23:37,690 --> 00:23:40,430
One of the girls was 18 -year -old Ella
Cooper.
378
00:23:40,970 --> 00:23:45,050
Okay. Who immediately started ranting
and collapsing and yelling, Noreen, look
379
00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:46,050
out.
380
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:50,390
Her erotic behavior drew the attention
of a police officer.
381
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:51,970
So what, is she having a flashback?
382
00:23:52,210 --> 00:23:53,210
That's the theory.
383
00:23:53,810 --> 00:23:57,450
When she finally calmed down, she
admitted to being at the scene of the
384
00:23:58,750 --> 00:24:03,030
All right, so what else did she give up?
She confessed that she had gone to the
385
00:24:03,030 --> 00:24:09,000
park with Noreen and two men, and one of
them was named... Bill Smith, and the
386
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,500
other one she only knew was Bob.
387
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,480
Bill Smith and Bob.
388
00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:20,560
Okay. Ella said that Bill Smith got
jealous about Noreen wanting to possibly
389
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,120
date Bob or just not him.
390
00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,220
So he ended up killing her.
391
00:24:24,580 --> 00:24:28,400
All right, so why did it take this girl
three years to give up what happened?
392
00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:34,160
Ella told police that Bill Smith
threatened to kill her if she ever
393
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,000
anything. And so she trained herself to
simply forget.
394
00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:38,340
that had ever happened.
395
00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:43,520
All those emotions came back when she
visited the same park where Noreen died.
396
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,440
It took two trials, but he was sentenced
to life in prison.
397
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:50,920
Okay. What about this guy Bob? He's
obviously an accomplice.
398
00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:58,100
Ella gave a description of Bob to the
police. Okay. There were 150 leads, but
399
00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,100
they never found Bob.
400
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,740
Well, at least in this case, the body
was found and there was closure to it. I
401
00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:06,060
can only imagine how many bodies are out
there that have no closure.
402
00:25:09,610 --> 00:25:13,410
I'm seeing that dead person who's
causing all of the anger here.
403
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:20,130
It is a female who was crawling
404
00:25:20,130 --> 00:25:26,550
on her hands and knees, kind of crawling
towards me, and she was in a very
405
00:25:26,550 --> 00:25:28,930
decomposed state.
406
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,880
I could see as well longer straight
brown hair and I believe
407
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,700
that she's relatively young.
408
00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:46,920
I hear 150.
409
00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:50,540
I don't know what that means though. I
keep hearing like Bobby.
410
00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:55,980
I would assume that it has something to
do with being buried alive.
411
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,220
Now that she's dead, she's morphing into
this animal and is just full of rage.
412
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:13,660
So I'm thinking as far as whatever this
is, was not happy
413
00:26:13,660 --> 00:26:20,240
about being buried there and seeking
revenge.
414
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:28,160
I think that that's the only thing that
this thing feels or
415
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,160
thinks. There's no like higher.
416
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,440
thinking process is going on anymore.
417
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:41,620
It's just like this drive, an
animalistic drive, which is just anger
418
00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:42,620
motivated.
419
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,420
I saw a lot of disturbing things on my
walk, but two concerned me the most.
420
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,400
First, the animal -like dead girl
crawling out of the shallow grave.
421
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,660
I want to show like her front part.
422
00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:06,760
as thin, so it's light -filled, naked,
dirty.
423
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,540
Her hair, it's wet and kind of mucked up
with mud.
424
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:18,300
Next, I described a scene where the old
dead woman is waking up a living person.
425
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,860
I want it so that the person's in the
bed and she's holding their arm.
426
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,820
What she does is shake them awake that
way.
427
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,460
So she has barrettes in her hair.
428
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,040
Amy, is this what you saw?
429
00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:45,460
Yes, that's what I saw.
430
00:28:05,710 --> 00:28:09,890
Now that Amy and I have completed our
investigations, we're ready to reveal
431
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:13,110
findings to each other and our clients
for the first time.
432
00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:15,010
So guys, I want you to meet Amy.
433
00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:19,630
She's going to be doing the reveal from
another room so she can concentrate on
434
00:28:19,630 --> 00:28:21,910
your case and the dead without any
distractions.
435
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:26,590
Amy, meet Brandy and her fiancé, Mark.
They live in the home with their son,
436
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:30,470
Trevor. And this is him right here,
who's 29 years old.
437
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:34,490
Obviously, we're not there in the home.
We're in a local library.
438
00:28:35,230 --> 00:28:36,950
We'll get into why later.
439
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:40,770
But you should know that whatever's in
the house is ripping this family apart.
440
00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:44,990
And if we can't find a solution, you
guys really don't think you're going to
441
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:45,989
make it, do you?
442
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:50,770
Yeah. So that being said, Amy may have
some questions for you. If not, she'll
443
00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:51,890
tell us about her walk.
444
00:28:54,230 --> 00:29:01,230
When I first arrived, I absolutely felt
a lot of negative energy.
445
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,800
I initially felt blocked by a living
person who's a telepath.
446
00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:07,820
That would be you.
447
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,760
After that, I go into the house, and
when I walked into the kitchen, I
448
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,420
encountered an elderly woman.
449
00:29:17,780 --> 00:29:24,440
I also encountered her in the back
bedroom to the right.
450
00:29:24,780 --> 00:29:25,940
That's Trevor's room.
451
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,620
And then in the main bedroom, by far
kind of running around.
452
00:29:31,610 --> 00:29:35,950
She was in both rooms trying to shake
you guys awake.
453
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:43,730
I was getting that there were consistent
nightmares
454
00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:46,070
being had.
455
00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:48,170
This explains so much.
456
00:29:48,810 --> 00:29:55,230
Brandy tells me that I will actually
physically get out of bed and then come
457
00:29:55,230 --> 00:29:58,890
back and get in bed, and I have no
recollection of it.
458
00:29:59,250 --> 00:30:01,070
Brandy, you keep getting woken up at
night.
459
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,420
Right? Yeah. Many times. I know
sometimes when I wake up, well, a lot of
460
00:30:05,420 --> 00:30:12,080
times when I wake up, there's a dark, 10
-foot -tall shadow person hovering
461
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,940
over him in his bed.
462
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,320
I asked Brandy to sketch for me one
night what she sees.
463
00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:24,280
I have it right here, Amy. This is a
sketch that Brandy did.
464
00:30:25,780 --> 00:30:26,780
Wow.
465
00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:28,680
I did have a sketch.
466
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,640
of what I saw this old lady doing.
467
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,060
It's an old lady, but you might not want
to see the sketch.
468
00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:45,260
Wow.
469
00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:47,340
That's crazy.
470
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,220
That's my side of the bed.
471
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,760
That's what your arms do when you're
sleeping.
472
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,220
You're fighting something off when
you're sleeping.
473
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,260
Brandy tells me that I'm in a defensive
position, like I'm trying to... Push
474
00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:00,239
somebody away.
475
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,240
He's terrified.
476
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520
You've been shoved in bed, right? Oh,
yeah.
477
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,060
Tell Amy what goes on with that.
478
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:11,180
It shoves my right shoulder. Like, hey,
pretty hard. And it rocks me awake.
479
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:13,280
Brandy's also been scratched.
480
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:14,840
I actually got photos.
481
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,900
This is Brandy's scratches.
482
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,520
On my arm there, that was almost like a
bruise from the inside out, like a poke.
483
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,740
Mark, you had scratches on your leg and
shoulder, right?
484
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,190
Yeah. These are marked scratches as
well.
485
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:37,730
Are these scratches coming from the old
woman, or do we think it's something
486
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:39,390
else? I think it's something else.
487
00:31:42,370 --> 00:31:45,890
Anything at all about who this woman was
when she was alive?
488
00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:50,510
I would put her, like, probably in her
late 70s.
489
00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:56,490
She kept talking about the year 1996,
and...
490
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,700
I felt like she used to live there, but
the house looked very different
491
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,280
through her eyes.
492
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,740
She was freaking out, but there was a
specific incident involving a truck
493
00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:18,320
pulling up that she's extremely upset
about. And it's
494
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,740
why she keeps trying to wake everyone
up.
495
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:25,420
In 1996, an elderly woman did live on
your property. Her name was Frances
496
00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:29,480
Ruther. And in 1975, she bought the land
with her husband, Arno.
497
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,540
They lived in the house right next to
you, and they used your property for
498
00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:41,040
farmland. Now, they lived there together
for about 25 years, and in 1994,
499
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:44,520
Arno suffered a massive heart attack.
500
00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:49,580
Frances called for the ambulance. She
was watching it all happen, and by the
501
00:32:49,580 --> 00:32:52,600
time they came and brought him to the
hospital, they announced him to be away
502
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,820
the hospital because he was probably
dead at the house.
503
00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:56,880
Now, you said 1996.
504
00:32:58,060 --> 00:33:02,580
That happens to be the same year Frances
had a new home built on the property.
505
00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:04,400
And that's the house you guys live in.
506
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,960
Oh.
507
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,980
Now, we're not really sure if she
actually lived in that house or not.
508
00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:13,540
way, it seems it was hard on her to stay
there and she sold the property. She
509
00:33:13,540 --> 00:33:15,420
moved out of town and died in 2008.
510
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,860
She was 84 when she died. So, is it
possible Frances could be the woman
511
00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:21,860
bothering them?
512
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:23,420
I would say so.
513
00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:28,280
What else did you see?
514
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,360
So one of the things I noticed was that
there is a lot of anger.
515
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:41,140
When I walked into the garage, it got
worse.
516
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,040
I felt the energy of a living male.
517
00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:51,760
Just seeing like a big guy drinking
alcohol and feeling very angry.
518
00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:59,800
Then... I was hearing somebody talking
about death and somebody talking about
519
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,160
suicide, and I saw a gun.
520
00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:09,580
Now's the time to tell you why we're in
this library.
521
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,620
Whenever Mark's in the house, he goes
into rages. He's not himself.
522
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Actually, these guys were afraid if we
did this in the house, we wouldn't be
523
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,540
able to handle whatever news you gave
him.
524
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,040
Matter of fact...
525
00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:26,730
Brandy actually thinks he's possessed.
526
00:34:27,330 --> 00:34:34,170
He started changing, really changing.
And his eyes get darker. And he's just
527
00:34:34,170 --> 00:34:37,650
Mark. I have to stay away from him.
528
00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:42,670
Whenever I'm at home, I'm on edge. I'm
agitated all the time.
529
00:34:42,889 --> 00:34:43,889
It's affecting your marriage.
530
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:45,250
Yes, absolutely.
531
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:48,690
I found something very odd in your area.
532
00:34:48,949 --> 00:34:51,110
Amy, you mentioned suicide and gun.
533
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,880
I found there was five brutal murder
-suicides within a 10 -year period.
534
00:34:56,340 --> 00:35:01,380
You got five separate ones in a 10 -year
period in an area where hardly anybody
535
00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:02,500
lives? That's a lot.
536
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:04,680
How far out did you go?
537
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,240
They were all within a couple of miles
of the house. Really? Yeah. Oh, boy.
538
00:35:11,180 --> 00:35:15,940
Now, where is this anger coming from?
All right.
539
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:23,470
When I went out back and to the left, I
encountered
540
00:35:23,470 --> 00:35:29,230
what I initially thought was an animal,
but I'm like, oh, it's not.
541
00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:31,610
It's actually a deceased female.
542
00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:38,730
What I got was that she had been buried,
I think alive, and left
543
00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:39,629
for dead.
544
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:46,630
She has become animalistic in nature
because all she's being driven
545
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:49,370
by now is revenge.
546
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:57,580
I really couldn't get, like, when she
died. I would say 1940 until now.
547
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,720
I got the name Bobby, and I also heard
the number 150.
548
00:36:04,340 --> 00:36:08,440
As far as this dead woman you saw, you
said 1940s and 150.
549
00:36:09,140 --> 00:36:12,020
Now, I came across a pretty tragic story
during my research.
550
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,840
But before I get to that, Jamie, if you
know, a couple of miles behind the house
551
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,980
is a military base called Fort Lewis.
552
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,180
The base has a wooded area that's become
a dumping ground for murder victims.
553
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,740
Nearly 100 bodies have been recovered
from there over the years.
554
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:29,640
One of them was a 17 -year -old girl
named Noreen McNicholas.
555
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,580
In November of 1948, she left home to go
to school and vanished.
556
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:40,220
Her body, that was badly decomposed, was
found in a swampy, shallow grave.
557
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:43,340
Autopsy showed that she had been badly
beaten and strangled to death.
558
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,700
The case went cold for a few years.
559
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,200
At that time, two enlisted men took
their dates to the area where Noreen's
560
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,740
was found. And this is where it gets a
little strange.
561
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,700
One of the girls, an 18 -year -old named
Ella Cooper, started panicking and
562
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:00,520
screamed out, Noreen, look out.
563
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,360
Luckily,
564
00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:06,300
there was a cop nearby and heard that
and went over to investigate.
565
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Turns out Ella was with Noreen the day
she was murdered.
566
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,840
She said that she and Noreen went to the
park with two men. So one of the guys'
567
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,320
name was Bill Smith, and the other guy
she only knew was Bob.
568
00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:20,340
Apparently, Noreen wasn't interested in
Bill, so he killed her in a jealous
569
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:25,240
rage. The detective tracked him down,
and he was convicted and sentenced to
570
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,098
in prison.
571
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,700
Now, Ella wound up giving a description
of this guy, Bob.
572
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,760
It's a big coincidence, but the
journalist I spoke to said the cops got
573
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,600
leads on this guy, but not one of them
worked out.
574
00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:41,850
I had a sketch done of how she's now
projecting herself.
575
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:52,270
It's pretty macabre.
576
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:54,210
Weird.
577
00:37:59,490 --> 00:38:01,250
Half dog, half human.
578
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:03,450
That's pretty creepy.
579
00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:06,930
You have to understand, she's full of
rage.
580
00:38:08,140 --> 00:38:13,040
She's responsible for a lot of the
physical attacks in the house, and
581
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,860
where the anger's coming from, is from
her.
582
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,640
But she's really mad at men, and I'm
worried about what she can do to you.
583
00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:28,480
That could become a very volatile
situation where Mark may harm himself or
584
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,480
others.
585
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,580
Something's got to be done. I can't do
that.
586
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,980
No, I can't.
587
00:38:40,330 --> 00:38:41,330
I knew it was me.
588
00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:02,990
So, now we know what's been attacking
both you guys and keeping you up at
589
00:39:03,570 --> 00:39:07,310
Mark, now we know what's causing you to
fly off the handle. But the big question
590
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:08,990
is, can you fight back?
591
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:12,820
kick all the debt out, and go on living
a good, normal life?
592
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,860
For that answer, I'm going to turn it
over to Amy.
593
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:25,440
I don't think that it's particularly
safe
594
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:32,440
for you guys to continue living in that
environment.
595
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,840
And the feeling that I got is that
that...
596
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,920
going to get progressively worse.
597
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,340
So my suggestion would be for you guys
to relocate.
598
00:39:53,900 --> 00:40:00,480
It's heartbreaking to know that there's
just no way I can salvage this.
599
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,580
Believe me, Amy doesn't want to tell
anybody to leave their home.
600
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,300
But it sounds like if you stay...
601
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,640
It's going to be a problem.
602
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:16,780
And it would be really awesome if you
could have a medium come and help
603
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:18,100
the little lady move on.
604
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Yeah.
605
00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:22,140
That would be awesome.
606
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:27,480
As far as that dead girl goes, I mean...
I'm taking her home.
607
00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:32,800
I'm going to collect her and help her
move on.
608
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,240
Okay, so I know the house means a lot to
you guys, but are you going to leave it
609
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,080
behind and get a fresh thought someplace
else?
610
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Oh, absolutely.
611
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Okay. Absolutely.
612
00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:47,540
Absolutely.
613
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:48,720
It's just a house.
614
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,360
Will they start feeling better, like,
right away when they move, or is it
615
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,360
to take a little bit of time? Oh, yeah.
616
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:56,040
Yeah, when they move, yeah.
617
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,340
You've got to be relieved to know that
he'll be himself once again. Yeah. At
618
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:02,078
some point.
619
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,140
Yeah. Family's going to come together.
620
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:06,760
It's the first time I've seen you two
smile since I met you.
621
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Thank you.
622
00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:13,140
Thank you so much.
623
00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:20,040
I feel really bad for Brandy and Mark,
but in a situation as dangerous as this,
624
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,280
I think it's best they leave their home.
625
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:28,160
Hopefully, they take my advice, find a
medium to move the old lady on, and get
626
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,580
fresh start somewhere new.
627
00:41:34,890 --> 00:41:36,850
We did have a medium come out.
628
00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:43,350
Who helped move Francis on. He also
helped me with my chakras. The anger
629
00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:45,510
nearly as prevalent like it was before.
630
00:41:45,790 --> 00:41:50,430
And we're looking into the housing
market and keeping up on that so that we
631
00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:52,350
hopefully find a new home.
632
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:58,130
So we just wanted to say thank you very
much for coming out. Thank you very
633
00:41:58,130 --> 00:41:59,890
much. You guys are wonderful.
54871
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.