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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,419 --> 00:00:12,680 Something horrible is going on. 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:18,020 This person is seeing dead people being around the bed. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,520 The thing got in bed with me and put their arm around me. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,820 What do you think is here? I think there's a demon here. 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,560 It is taking pieces of them. 6 00:00:30,380 --> 00:00:34,700 There was even some reports of people doing some weird rituals out here. 7 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:38,460 This thing is very bad. Go pack your stuff now. 8 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:42,670 Bad, bad, bad, bad. 9 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:45,970 It wants the person dead. 10 00:00:46,290 --> 00:00:47,810 My name is Amy Allen. 11 00:00:48,510 --> 00:00:51,730 I see dead people. I saw a winged creature. 12 00:00:52,450 --> 00:00:54,290 I speak to dead people. 13 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:55,990 And they speak to me. 14 00:00:56,670 --> 00:00:58,630 This person feels like a monster. 15 00:00:59,070 --> 00:01:01,730 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 16 00:01:01,990 --> 00:01:05,050 They are sucking the life out of these people. 17 00:01:05,710 --> 00:01:07,230 I rely on my partner. 18 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:10,710 I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,920 So how many bodies are we talking? And I know every person, every house has 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,940 secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. 21 00:01:20,140 --> 00:01:21,980 We never communicate during an investigation. 22 00:01:22,180 --> 00:01:23,580 Until the very end. 23 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:25,180 You're not going to like this. 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,660 When we uncover if it saved you to stay. I'm sorry, I need to take a break. 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Or time to get out. It wants inside the house because it wants to kill you. 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,520 I'm in Oxnard, California. It's a beachside city about an hour and a half 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,339 Los Angeles. 28 00:01:52,340 --> 00:01:54,280 A woman named Kelly called me in. 29 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:55,640 She sounded bad. 30 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:59,100 She thinks whatever's in the house killed her husband and her father. 31 00:01:59,340 --> 00:02:01,560 And she's convinced it's still out for blood. 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,660 I need help. I want to cleanse this house because, honestly, I can't take 33 00:02:07,660 --> 00:02:08,619 more of it. 34 00:02:08,620 --> 00:02:11,420 Hopefully, Amy and I can help before anyone else gets hurt. 35 00:02:20,330 --> 00:02:21,350 This interesting place. 36 00:02:22,770 --> 00:02:23,770 I don't like it. 37 00:02:25,590 --> 00:02:28,130 This is a not good area. 38 00:02:30,910 --> 00:02:31,910 Ugh. 39 00:02:32,850 --> 00:02:34,070 I don't like it. 40 00:02:35,490 --> 00:02:36,490 I don't know why. 41 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:39,870 Oh, bad, bad, bad, bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. 42 00:02:46,980 --> 00:02:50,380 Kelly, glad I'm here because when we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty 43 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:51,880 angry. Correct. 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,480 What's going on? 45 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:57,500 Whatever's in this house, I feel like it's going to eventually kill me. I feel 46 00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:02,160 like it killed my father and my late husband. 47 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:06,200 That's pretty strong of a statement that you're telling me. 48 00:03:06,740 --> 00:03:07,800 Let's start with your father. 49 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:09,300 Why do you say that? 50 00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:11,940 Because the way he died. 51 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:18,220 How it happened, he was like me and you, talking, happy, laughing, carrying on 52 00:03:18,220 --> 00:03:24,400 with his life. And then he got the diagnosis, and basically he went 53 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,220 evening, and I couldn't wake him up. 54 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:28,880 So he passed away in the house? 55 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,780 Correct. So what was the diagnosis? 56 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:32,260 Lymphoma cancer. 57 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:35,440 Okay, how old was he? He was 89 years old. 58 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:39,960 Okay. Your late husband, tell me what happened there. 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,220 Found him dead in the... 60 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:44,590 Bedroom. Okay, how old was he? 61 00:03:45,310 --> 00:03:48,270 45. 45 -year -old men don't just drop dead. 62 00:03:48,670 --> 00:03:49,850 He died of an overdose. 63 00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:51,950 Okay, I lost a brother to an overdose. 64 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:56,390 And I found him. I know what that's like. It's not easy to deal with. And 65 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:59,670 sorry that did happen to you. Thank you. Do you feel the paranormal here 66 00:03:59,670 --> 00:04:01,630 influenced him to start using again? 67 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:03,250 Yes, I do. 68 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:06,510 He had been clean and sober for about a year. 69 00:04:07,070 --> 00:04:08,510 You look real happy in this photo. 70 00:04:10,670 --> 00:04:11,670 Yeah. 71 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:14,270 How long have you lived here? 72 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:18,690 I was born and raised here. Okay. Then I moved away, and then I came back about 73 00:04:18,690 --> 00:04:19,669 eight years ago. 74 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:21,610 Okay. Who all lives in the house, Kelly? 75 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:26,250 My daughter, Sarah. She's 15. My mother, she's 71. 76 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:27,950 And myself. 77 00:04:28,930 --> 00:04:32,630 So let me ask you a question. I noticed that you had a bed set up in the living 78 00:04:32,630 --> 00:04:34,290 room. I'm assuming that's for your mom. 79 00:04:34,510 --> 00:04:36,990 Correct. She had a stroke about eight years ago. 80 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:38,850 How bad is her health right now? 81 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:41,790 Well, she can't walk. She's paralyzed. 82 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:43,970 Completely on her left side. 83 00:04:44,210 --> 00:04:46,750 Okay. Her mind isn't as sharp as it used to be. 84 00:04:47,130 --> 00:04:51,610 Lately, the last couple weeks, she's actually has said that my father and her 85 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:55,870 father has been visiting her. I asked her, what did they say? 86 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:57,230 Why are they here? 87 00:04:57,430 --> 00:05:01,130 And she said that they just came to tell her that everything's going to be okay. 88 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:02,990 What do you take from that? 89 00:05:03,530 --> 00:05:05,390 She's going to be checking out pretty soon. 90 00:05:05,630 --> 00:05:06,630 How are you holding up with that? 91 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:11,110 I just try to be strong and not cry. I don't want to, you know, I guess show 92 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:12,110 that I'm weak. 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,940 Because whatever is here, my full strong belief is that it gets a kick out of 94 00:05:17,940 --> 00:05:19,560 that, out of my emotion. 95 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:21,860 And I can't show that. 96 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,060 What do you think is here? 97 00:05:24,820 --> 00:05:26,460 I think there's a demon here. 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,960 Why not just walk away from this madness that's going on here? My father built 99 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,719 this house. 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,440 Okay. I was born in this house. And out of respect for my father, I want to stay 101 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,239 here and fight. 102 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,460 I can understand that. 103 00:05:42,730 --> 00:05:45,690 I feel very drained in here. 104 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:55,130 There's like this little woman, petite, very thin, like gray -white hair. 105 00:05:59,450 --> 00:06:03,330 Just like no energy, frail, confused. 106 00:06:07,180 --> 00:06:13,920 She goes in and out of here. I'm wondering, like, is she still alive or 107 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,100 did she die? 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:22,240 She's so heavy with, like, confusion and, like, a lot of nausea associated 109 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,760 with her, too. Like, very sick. 110 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,240 I keep hearing 78 with her. 111 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:31,080 I'm assuming that's her age. 112 00:06:35,310 --> 00:06:38,710 And I do feel something potentially with her heart. 113 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:43,070 Yeah, I think the living would certainly get sick in here. 114 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:47,310 I got to get out. I got to get out of this room. 115 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:56,290 Why did you bring me into this room? 116 00:06:57,090 --> 00:06:58,370 This is where my father passed. 117 00:06:58,810 --> 00:07:01,070 Okay. How long ago did your father pass? 118 00:07:01,390 --> 00:07:03,610 A year ago. Okay, so he was in bed here? 119 00:07:03,850 --> 00:07:09,070 Yes. Basically, he came up from downstairs, came to bed, and really kind 120 00:07:09,070 --> 00:07:10,190 never woke up. 121 00:07:10,410 --> 00:07:12,570 Okay, but you were here in the room with him when he passed? 122 00:07:12,890 --> 00:07:16,250 Correct. I'm curious, though. Do you think he's still here at all? 123 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:18,350 I don't believe so. Okay. 124 00:07:18,610 --> 00:07:21,050 Do you like that he's not here, or do you wish he was? 125 00:07:21,590 --> 00:07:25,770 No. He needs to be where he needs to be. Okay. 126 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:30,890 There's an older male here. 127 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,680 Is it like a hot attack with him? 128 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,900 I'm assuming he lived here at some point. 129 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:45,240 I don't know if he owned this house or if it was family. He seems fairly 130 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Maybe the 90s or 2000s. 131 00:07:50,980 --> 00:07:52,460 He seems frustrated. 132 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:54,060 He wants out. 133 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,840 He doesn't like it. 134 00:07:57,930 --> 00:08:01,550 I think he's pissed. He's just upset. I don't know. He's an angry guy. 135 00:08:01,850 --> 00:08:04,810 He likes it outside, out back. 136 00:08:05,890 --> 00:08:08,030 He feels like he's been pushed out. 137 00:08:08,870 --> 00:08:15,350 He's like, everything's gone to... So what, if any, experiences are you having 138 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:16,129 in the house? 139 00:08:16,130 --> 00:08:20,570 Right after my dad died, I heard his voice say, I'm cold. 140 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:21,950 I am cold. 141 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:26,650 So, I'm cold. Does that mean anything to you? That's what he had told me before 142 00:08:26,650 --> 00:08:27,650 he was dying. 143 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:29,820 And you're confident it was your father's voice? 144 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:32,620 I'm confident it was his voice, but it was not him. 145 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:34,179 It was demonic. 146 00:08:34,860 --> 00:08:40,820 That's actually when I knew then and there that this thing is straight -up 147 00:08:41,260 --> 00:08:42,659 All right, so anything else? 148 00:08:43,059 --> 00:08:45,700 I see shadow figures throughout the house. 149 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:47,600 All right, so give me an example. 150 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:54,520 One time I was sleeping in Sarah's room, and I woke up, some large shadow 151 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,520 standing over me. 152 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:57,020 So how big are we talking? 153 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:58,880 I feel about this tall. 154 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,520 Okay. About yay wide. 155 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:02,140 It's touching me like here. 156 00:09:03,060 --> 00:09:04,060 Caressing you? Yep. 157 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Doing this. 158 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:06,620 Oh. What else is going on? 159 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,340 Well, I have dreams about this demon -looking thing, and I just call it a 160 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,500 Can you describe it for me? 161 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Yes. He crawls on all fours. His body is bruised all over. 162 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,720 All right. And his face is kind of disfigured. So in your dream, when you 163 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,400 this thing, does it appear like it wants to hurt you? 164 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:27,639 Yeah. 165 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,900 In what way? 166 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,720 Physically, mentally, emotionally. 167 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,300 I honestly don't know how you live in here. 168 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:34,560 Me neither. 169 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,380 I'm seeing that old dying woman. 170 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,360 And she's looking in the mirror and talking to herself. 171 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:48,400 I think she opened some sort of gateway. 172 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,860 I got this thing. It looks burned or really old or both. 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,280 Kept trying to absorb my energy. I think that thing can come and go through the 174 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,920 mirror. There are also random dead people coming out of the mirror. 175 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,420 So I'm thinking these aren't the best people. 176 00:10:07,060 --> 00:10:11,240 I think the living would feel that intention, that negative darkness. 177 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,800 They're introducing stuff. 178 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,520 The living? 179 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,880 Yeah. So they're being drained, the dead people in the mirror, for taking their 180 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,880 energy. 181 00:10:22,190 --> 00:10:26,650 Now, the scary thing there is that when that's happening, when the dead are 182 00:10:26,650 --> 00:10:31,270 doing this, it's not only just the person's energy, it's like their 183 00:10:31,650 --> 00:10:32,650 their memories. 184 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:34,910 This is negative and bad. 185 00:10:57,550 --> 00:10:59,690 So, Jennifer, I understand you used to live here. Yes. 186 00:11:00,030 --> 00:11:03,450 Talking to your mom, she's convinced that the paranormal killed your 187 00:11:03,450 --> 00:11:07,970 grandfather, killed her late husband, and is looking to kill somebody else in 188 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:08,569 this home. 189 00:11:08,570 --> 00:11:12,430 I want to know what you think about her, or is she overreacting with what she's 190 00:11:12,430 --> 00:11:15,030 thinking? No, I don't think she's overreacting at all. 191 00:11:15,450 --> 00:11:17,330 I'm worried something's going to happen to her. 192 00:11:17,970 --> 00:11:21,450 Okay, so I got to assume you've had experiences here. I have. 193 00:11:22,030 --> 00:11:26,250 There's something here that makes people angry and fight. 194 00:11:26,780 --> 00:11:29,700 Me and my husband, we would start fighting, arguing. 195 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:32,820 Was that the cause of you moving away from here? 196 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Yeah. I had to get out of this house because I felt like this house was just 197 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,320 destroying the marriage, really. 198 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,140 Okay, so anything else? 199 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,720 I was actually living in here at the time, in this room. My son was sick all 200 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,880 night. He was about maybe five, six months old, and I was, you know, trying 201 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,940 comfort him. But right when I did that, I literally got punched in my back. 202 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,220 You realize how dangerous that was? Are you holding a newborn and getting 203 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:00,179 punched like that? 204 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:01,420 Yes, it was very dangerous. 205 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:04,800 Okay, so that was pretty intense. Anything else? 206 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:09,380 One time I was washing my son's bottle in the kitchen. Okay. 207 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:16,420 And there's a window above the sink. I happened to glance up and I seen an 208 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:21,980 lady in like a vintage nightgown. It scared the crap out of me. If you saw a 209 00:12:21,980 --> 00:12:25,200 photo or a portrait, did you recognize her? 210 00:12:25,450 --> 00:12:29,710 Yes, actually. Me and my mom were going through old family photos one time, and 211 00:12:29,710 --> 00:12:34,070 I was like, who is this? This is the lady who I've seen standing behind me. 212 00:12:34,070 --> 00:12:36,890 who was it? It was actually my mom's grandma. 213 00:12:37,450 --> 00:12:38,910 So your great -grandmother? Mm -hmm. 214 00:12:40,050 --> 00:12:41,050 Interesting. 215 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:45,130 I see a woman. 216 00:12:45,570 --> 00:12:47,250 She's like a shadow woman. 217 00:12:49,710 --> 00:12:52,650 Shadow woman is very present in here. 218 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,480 She's coming from outside. 219 00:12:57,700 --> 00:13:00,500 When living people see her, they see a shadow person. 220 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,140 She has a dark side. 221 00:13:03,420 --> 00:13:05,540 Like, I see her getting angry and yelling. 222 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,720 And when she doesn't get her way, she's got a violent temper. 223 00:13:13,020 --> 00:13:17,600 I see her banging on the walls, banging on the bed. 224 00:13:33,270 --> 00:13:35,790 So, Sarah, this is a pretty cool room. Thank you. 225 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:39,650 Would you rather move from here or would you rather stay if we could fix it? 226 00:13:39,850 --> 00:13:43,830 I like living here, but if we have to move, I wouldn't mind it. How about 227 00:13:43,830 --> 00:13:45,230 experiences that you've had? 228 00:13:45,790 --> 00:13:46,790 Can you tell me about them? 229 00:13:47,050 --> 00:13:48,750 I just honestly have the worst nightmares. 230 00:13:49,070 --> 00:13:50,670 So tell me about some of them. 231 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:53,930 I've had some where, like... I'm being held down. I can't move. 232 00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:56,390 Right. Or, like, I'm being choked. 233 00:13:57,010 --> 00:13:59,690 Like, a lot of them would just be, like, I'm being, like, suffocated. 234 00:14:00,130 --> 00:14:01,870 I mean, just thinking about that's got me. 235 00:14:02,190 --> 00:14:03,270 Yeah. Trying to breathe. 236 00:14:03,830 --> 00:14:06,670 So do you wake up from all this anxiety? 237 00:14:07,090 --> 00:14:10,070 Yeah. I always feel, like, really, really scared. 238 00:14:10,390 --> 00:14:12,330 So you laugh when you're nervous, right? Yes. 239 00:14:12,630 --> 00:14:13,630 I can see that. 240 00:14:13,710 --> 00:14:17,810 Okay. So you're nervous right now. Yeah. I don't like talking about that. 241 00:14:18,070 --> 00:14:19,070 Oh, okay. 242 00:14:19,970 --> 00:14:21,070 What else is going on? 243 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:22,350 One time. 244 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:29,030 I was laying in bed right here and something came in and walked around to 245 00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:32,830 other side of the bed and then got in bed with me and put their arm around me 246 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:34,390 and then got up and walked out. 247 00:14:35,010 --> 00:14:36,170 Did you think you were dreaming? 248 00:14:36,410 --> 00:14:39,810 No. This was like very, very for real. 249 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:44,110 I don't want that to happen to you ever again because if it can do that, who 250 00:14:44,110 --> 00:14:46,050 knows what else it can do. 251 00:14:49,730 --> 00:14:51,310 Still attacks happening. 252 00:14:51,950 --> 00:14:55,910 This is an actual living person who's getting, like, attacked. 253 00:14:56,390 --> 00:15:03,330 This person is seeing dead people, I believe, coming out the 254 00:15:03,330 --> 00:15:04,330 closet. 255 00:15:05,330 --> 00:15:09,270 I just see a bunch of people coming out the closet, being around the bed. 256 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:16,490 So I think this person's a medium, and they just opened up the vortex up in 257 00:15:16,490 --> 00:15:19,690 their closet, and so dead people are coming in. 258 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,620 That thing. The one that I saw coming through the mirror, they see it. And I 259 00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:35,320 think that scares them the most. And then it comes down on the bed. 260 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,480 So what does it look like? 261 00:15:38,860 --> 00:15:45,520 It's pretty big. The skin is weird. The skin's like burnt or like mummified, 262 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,060 kind of like a gray -brown color. 263 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,580 And it's got really long hands. 264 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:54,360 Super skinny, not anatomically correct. 265 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,800 Is this thing? 266 00:15:57,050 --> 00:15:58,670 Dangerous? Living? 267 00:15:59,030 --> 00:16:05,330 Yeah, because it can take energy. It is taking pieces of them. 268 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:12,030 It's taking their memories and that's kind of breaking them down mentally. 269 00:16:12,410 --> 00:16:14,470 So it's like a monster, really. 270 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,580 It wasn't hard to figure out where to start this investigation. 271 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:33,580 There's an old cemetery right by Kelly's house. In fact, you can see it from her 272 00:16:33,580 --> 00:16:37,680 kitchen. So I called a local author who says the place has a long and sad 273 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,820 history that I'm definitely going to want to know about. 274 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,040 So, Connie, I've got to thank you for helping me out with this case and 275 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:48,639 me here. 276 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,340 This cemetery looks pretty run down. 277 00:16:51,060 --> 00:16:52,300 What can you tell me about it? 278 00:16:52,780 --> 00:16:55,600 Well, this is the Masonic Guyanini Cemetery. 279 00:16:55,860 --> 00:16:58,020 Okay. It was established in 1898. 280 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,080 You can't tell by the way it looks now, but it was once a lush cemetery. 281 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,880 All right, so this place has been here over 120 years, it sounds like. So who 282 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,800 built it? The original board of directors, Winfield Saviors. Okay. A 283 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,880 named Achilles Levy. Okay. 284 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,579 And a former senator, Thomas Barth. 285 00:17:19,930 --> 00:17:22,970 You probably saw some of these names on the street signs around town. 286 00:17:23,849 --> 00:17:27,030 Actually, I have. So some of those names you mentioned to me, are those people 287 00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:28,029 buried here at all? 288 00:17:28,030 --> 00:17:31,790 Yes, they are. The Saviors family is actually located over there. Okay. And 289 00:17:31,790 --> 00:17:34,450 their young son, Jack, is also buried right there. 290 00:17:35,550 --> 00:17:37,810 Okay, so any idea how many people are buried here? 291 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:40,050 Originally, it was 360 plus. 292 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:44,590 Okay. But the current owner says it's more like 50 to 60. 293 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:47,260 All right, so what happened to the rest of those bodies? 294 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:52,300 In 1908, they separated the cemetery. Over there, they separated the Japanese. 295 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:57,820 There's about 140 people buried in that cemetery. And along the tree line are 296 00:17:57,820 --> 00:17:59,300 burials of Mexican -Americans. 297 00:17:59,900 --> 00:18:04,420 Okay, so if I got this right, they didn't want any white people buried in 298 00:18:04,420 --> 00:18:08,060 same cemetery with Japanese or Mexican people as well. That is correct. 299 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,280 Not for nothing, but this place is a mess. 300 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,120 I mean, is anybody even being buried here anymore? 301 00:18:13,610 --> 00:18:15,510 No, the last burial was in 1949. 302 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:20,110 Okay. Since then, there's been vandalism going on, people have stolen 303 00:18:20,110 --> 00:18:25,010 headstones, and there was even some reports of people doing some weird 304 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:26,010 out here. 305 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:30,510 Really? Yes. But yet, names of these people that are buried here are all over 306 00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:31,089 the city. 307 00:18:31,090 --> 00:18:34,910 Correct. But they don't think twice about their resting site. 308 00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:36,530 Yeah, it's a shame. 309 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:40,530 I get to the... 310 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:47,680 cemetery area and i see this huge hole and i had to 311 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:53,780 fight like to try to keep myself from being sucked into the hole and it's dark 312 00:18:53,780 --> 00:18:58,600 and it's negative and it takes people or rather their energy down this is 313 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:05,360 negative and bad connie mentioned that one of the graves 314 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:09,100 belonged to a kid from a prominent family here So I called the local 315 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:13,020 teacher who says that's true and that the boy's death was a tragic fluke 316 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:14,020 accident. 317 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,680 Well, Chris, I appreciate you coming out and helping me out with this case. 318 00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:27,780 Before we get to this kid's tragic death, this prominent family, what can 319 00:19:27,780 --> 00:19:28,419 tell me about? 320 00:19:28,420 --> 00:19:31,980 The Saviors. The Saviors have been here for over 100 years. 321 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:33,680 Okay. A powerful family. 322 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,680 During your research of this family, did anything stand out with them that might 323 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,479 help my case? 324 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:45,100 Yeah, the matriarch of the family, Charlotte, stands out. She was from 325 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:51,280 Massachusetts, and she came through Iowa in the 1880s, and she married Charles 326 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Saviors in 1888. 327 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,720 Here in California. 328 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,340 Here in California. And what's more interesting about that is it was a 329 00:19:58,340 --> 00:19:59,340 wedding. 330 00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:03,370 Okay, so back in those days, that had to be a big deal. Pretty scandalous, 331 00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:05,370 right? That is pretty scandalous at the time. 332 00:20:05,610 --> 00:20:06,830 It just doesn't happen. 333 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:09,610 All right, so they obviously have one child. Did they have any more? 334 00:20:09,850 --> 00:20:11,370 Well, they had a total of four. 335 00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:15,150 In this 1900 census, it shows that four children. 336 00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:19,550 All right, so who's this kid Jack buried by my client's house? 337 00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:25,710 He is the only child of her son Walter and his wife Margaret. So what happened 338 00:20:25,710 --> 00:20:26,710 to this kid Jack? 339 00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:28,290 Ah, that is pretty sad. 340 00:20:28,650 --> 00:20:35,450 Jack is at his grandmother's and grandfather's house playing around a 341 00:20:35,450 --> 00:20:40,570 the wagon has bales of hay in it. Two fall off, crush his skull, and break his 342 00:20:40,570 --> 00:20:41,570 arm. How old was he? 343 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:42,670 Four years old. 344 00:20:42,890 --> 00:20:43,890 Oh, geez. 345 00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:45,270 All right, so when did this happen? 346 00:20:45,570 --> 00:20:46,730 Happened in 1918. 347 00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:48,310 Did he die instantly? 348 00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:52,630 He died a week later on February 1, 1918. 349 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:54,010 Here's an article on it. 350 00:20:54,690 --> 00:20:56,990 So this poor kid suffered for a week. Oh, yes. 351 00:20:57,679 --> 00:21:03,420 So talking about Charlotte and her grandchild and it happened on their 352 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,580 She must have been, you know, destroyed from the guilt. Yeah, you have to be 353 00:21:07,580 --> 00:21:09,580 devastated. That family had to tear him apart. 354 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:13,100 It just goes to show that if you got money and you're powerful, it doesn't 355 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:14,880 a tragedy like this from happening. 356 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,300 I'm seeing the shadow woman again. 357 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,400 She. 358 00:21:22,620 --> 00:21:24,340 You know, came from back east. 359 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,920 From the east, she went to the Dakotas, and then she walked here. 360 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:32,760 She said she slept her way here, and she was laughing. 361 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:35,440 So I kind of think she was like a hooker. 362 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,320 The year 1918 is very important for her. 363 00:21:43,420 --> 00:21:47,620 Like, I feel like horrible, something horrible is going on. 364 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,740 Ugh. I'm scared. 365 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,260 I am scared. 366 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,820 So far, I've got a client who thinks the paranormal killed her father and her 367 00:22:27,820 --> 00:22:32,440 husband on a property near a vandalized cemetery where strange rituals were 368 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,780 done. But I want to see if there's anything else. 369 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:39,580 Searching through old records, I find a brutal triple murder that happened just 370 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:40,800 down the road from Kelly's house. 371 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,700 I've reached out to a retired detective. 372 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:47,600 He looked into this homicide for me and said the senseless triple murder was 373 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800 about two things, revenge and money. 374 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,380 So, Mike, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 375 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,800 This homicide, who would have played? 376 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:05,240 So you have an Oxnard ranch family. Okay. 377 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Swiss immigrant Peter Fuhrer, his wife Bertha. Okay. And they have an infant 378 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,480 daughter, Virginia, 10 months old. 379 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,260 What did you find out about these people in general? I mean, what's their story? 380 00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:17,160 The ranch actually was pretty successful. 381 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,420 Peter employed a number of ranch hands. Okay. One of those ranch hands was named 382 00:23:21,420 --> 00:23:22,420 Louis 14. 383 00:23:23,260 --> 00:23:27,260 Unfortunately, Louie was not a good ranch hand, and Peter ended up firing 384 00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:29,700 All right. I see where this might be going. 385 00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:36,520 What happened? As an act of revenge, he went and cashed a $250 check in Peter's 386 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,000 name. All right. So what happens next? 387 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:44,360 A couple weeks go by, and he gets real nervous about getting caught. So he 388 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:45,360 back to the ranch. 389 00:23:45,420 --> 00:23:48,420 He finds Peter in the barn. 390 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,240 proceeds to find a metal pipe and hit him over the head with it and kill him. 391 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,160 So what's he do after that? 392 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,680 Well, he decides that there are some more loose ends, so he goes into the 393 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,840 and he finds Bertha, and he hits her over the head with the same metal pipe 394 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,840 kills her as well. 395 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Okay, so now we got the baby left. 396 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,440 Yes, and unfortunately, he didn't know what to do with the baby, so he decided 397 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,080 that he was going to end her life as well. 398 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,400 Same metal pipe. 399 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,760 And she's 10 months old, right? Yes. 400 00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:18,620 This sick... 401 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,640 He doesn't know what to do with the kid and just kills her? Yeah. Like this 402 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,360 temetho is going to identify him? Absolutely, yeah. I have all three death 403 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:29,480 certificates here as well for the family, all indicating death by homicide 404 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,760 a metal pipe. So the cause of death is the same for all three of them? Correct. 405 00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:37,960 So he comes back later, though. He decides he's not finished, so he brings 406 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,960 of kerosene with him. 407 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,300 He moves all three family members into one room, and then he spreads out the 408 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:46,200 kerosene and proceeds to light the house on fire. 409 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,740 All right. So they tracked this guy down? Tracked him down, brought him in 410 00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:54,080 questioning. And under questioning by the sheriff, he admits to all three 411 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,860 homicides. Did he go to trial or did he just plea out? Went to trial and was 412 00:24:57,860 --> 00:24:58,799 found guilty. 413 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,240 Sentenced him to death by hanging. 414 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,540 All right. So he's found guilty and sent away. Where'd he go? He went to San 415 00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:05,060 Quentin. I have his mugshot right here. 416 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,340 Well, I can't believe you got this mugshot from 1916. 417 00:25:08,580 --> 00:25:13,020 Look at the dates. The crime committed in March 1916 hung in the gallows that 418 00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:14,900 July. That was the justice system back then. 419 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,880 What a piece of... Huh? 420 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,880 I'm hearing, like, a man just, like, barking. 421 00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:26,860 I'm, like, scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. 422 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,880 Ah! Something about a fire. 423 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,680 Like, a little piece of this person is left. 424 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:40,980 I think that the living would feel this panic and fear, like they're 425 00:25:40,980 --> 00:25:44,600 being watched around in here, and feeling stalked. 426 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:51,480 And feeling a lot of pain, like a pain, horrible pain in my side, pain in my 427 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,980 neck, pain in my jaw. 428 00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:58,760 So what exactly might the living pick up off of this pain? 429 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,960 Sudden, like, stabbing feeling in the side. 430 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:04,340 Horrible neck pain. 431 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:05,660 Horrible jaw pain. 432 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,700 Oh, God. And back. 433 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,120 Yeah, wicked, wicked back pain. 434 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,840 Ooh, ooh, ooh. 435 00:26:12,490 --> 00:26:13,850 Like, wicked all through here. 436 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:15,890 Horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. 437 00:26:20,050 --> 00:26:27,050 I saw several horrifying things on my walk, but 438 00:26:27,050 --> 00:26:30,930 two stood out. First, the dead guy who got pushed out to the backyard. 439 00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:33,090 He was, like, bald on top. 440 00:26:33,370 --> 00:26:35,950 Late 70s, early 80s mustache. 441 00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:38,210 So, pretty thick. 442 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:40,810 Does he have any markings or scars on his face? 443 00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:44,510 It seems like he had rough skin on his cheeks. 444 00:26:45,010 --> 00:26:48,750 Next, I described the thing climbing into bed with a living woman. 445 00:26:49,170 --> 00:26:53,490 Its skin is strange. It looks gray. 446 00:26:54,190 --> 00:26:57,990 It's got abnormally long limbs. 447 00:26:58,490 --> 00:27:01,930 Definitely like an elongated skull. 448 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:09,150 Amy, is this what you saw? 449 00:27:10,750 --> 00:27:12,150 Yes, that's what I thought. 450 00:27:31,690 --> 00:27:38,690 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal 451 00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:39,690 findings to each other. 452 00:27:40,350 --> 00:27:42,370 and our clients for the first time. 453 00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:45,590 So guys, this is Amy. 454 00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:49,570 She's going to be doing the reveal from another room where she can concentrate 455 00:27:49,570 --> 00:27:52,290 on your case and the dead without any distraction. 456 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:53,710 Amy, meet Kelly. 457 00:27:54,290 --> 00:27:55,910 She's the one that called us in. 458 00:27:56,570 --> 00:28:03,250 She lives here with her 71 -year -old mom, who unfortunately is not doing too 459 00:28:03,250 --> 00:28:06,330 well health -wise, and her 15 -year -old daughter, Sarah. 460 00:28:06,770 --> 00:28:09,410 This is Jennifer, one of Kelly's other daughters. 461 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,900 She grew up here and got the hell out because of all the stuff that was going 462 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:16,040 on. And she wishes the rest of the family would do the same, actually. 463 00:28:16,420 --> 00:28:21,260 So unless Amy's got some questions for you, she'll tell us about her walk. 464 00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:29,740 So I have to say that this was a very active walk. 465 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:34,500 The first thing that I want to discuss is a deceased woman. 466 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,680 She did have an accent. She told me she was from back east. 467 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:46,140 She had traveled to first apparently the Dakotas, and then she kind of said that 468 00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:52,320 she slept her way here. I took that as her potentially being a 469 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:59,300 prostitute. She did mention a few times the year 1918, the living 470 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,680 may see her in the shadow form. 471 00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:05,820 The problem is, is she actually does have a dark side. 472 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,380 Basically, if she doesn't get her way, that's when she kind of lashes out and 473 00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:12,560 becomes a bit violent. 474 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,740 I see her banging on the wall, banging on the bed. 475 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,200 You didn't tell me about seeing shadows. 476 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:29,400 Yes. Standing over me while I was sleeping and have been, you know, 477 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,960 touched. What about the banging noises? 478 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Does that make any sense to you? Sure does. 479 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:37,050 The bed would move, shake. 480 00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:41,790 So that shadow woman you're talking about reminds me of a woman that I came 481 00:29:41,790 --> 00:29:42,790 across in my research. 482 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:45,950 Her name was Charlotte, and she was originally from New England. 483 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:50,310 Now, she came here to California in the 1880s by way of Iowa. 484 00:29:51,150 --> 00:29:54,190 In 1888, she married into the Saviors family. 485 00:29:55,550 --> 00:29:56,550 Wow. 486 00:29:56,970 --> 00:29:59,110 They're one of the most prominent families in town. 487 00:29:59,350 --> 00:30:03,370 I don't know if you noticed, but there's signs all over the place with their 488 00:30:03,370 --> 00:30:04,359 name on it. 489 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,280 Now, the shadow woman told you she might have slept her way here. I think what 490 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,660 she might have meant was that she had to have a shotgun wedding back in 1888. 491 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,060 And back then, that was scandalous. 492 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,060 Now, you also mentioned the year 1918, which was very important to her. 493 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,420 So in late January of that year, her four -year -old grandson was playing on 494 00:30:27,420 --> 00:30:30,500 farm. All of a sudden, two bales of hay. 495 00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:33,890 Came crushing down and landed on the kid. 496 00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:35,870 Fractured his skull. 497 00:30:36,010 --> 00:30:39,190 The kid was only four years old, and he died eventually about a week later. 498 00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:41,730 He's actually buried at the cemetery. 499 00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:44,190 You can throw a rock at it from here. 500 00:30:44,890 --> 00:30:46,550 Oh, what? 501 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:47,950 Yeah. 502 00:30:48,170 --> 00:30:50,190 What kind of cemetery is it? It's a mess. 503 00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:53,030 It's in disrepair. There's headstones everywhere, missing. 504 00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:56,290 They think satanic groups might have been in there doing some rituals. 505 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:57,710 Oh. 506 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,060 Okay, what else? 507 00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:10,420 The next dead person that I came into contact with was initially in the living 508 00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:12,300 room. It's like the back of the house. 509 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,660 He is actually pretty recent. I would have said 1990s or 2000s. I got 510 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:22,500 that he died suddenly, I think from a heart attack. 511 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:26,100 And he's very upset and very frustrated. 512 00:31:26,820 --> 00:31:28,940 So now he hangs out mostly in the backyard. 513 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,960 All right, so Amy, now's probably a good time to tell you why Kelly called us 514 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,580 in. She believes that the house has already killed two people she loves. 515 00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:42,440 Now, the first, that was her husband, Ruben, who passed away here in the house 516 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,440 in 2007. 517 00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:47,740 A photo of Ruben and Kelly. 518 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,940 He was a recovering addict. 519 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:57,060 He ended up using, he had been clean for quite a while, and he overdosed. 520 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,240 in one of the back bedrooms. 521 00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:05,820 Now, the second death was last year, and that was Kelly's dad. 522 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:10,720 Now, he was 89, so I'm not so sure it had something to do with the paranormal. 523 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,800 She's convinced that paranormal had a lot to do with it. He wasn't your 524 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,920 89 -year -old man. 525 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,120 Ah, got it. 526 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:23,800 Actually, I have a picture of her dad, and this is your late brother as well, 527 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,880 right? Correct. 528 00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,370 Okay. I had a sketch done of the person that I saw. 529 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:36,870 Okay. 530 00:32:44,090 --> 00:32:48,650 Holly, tell me who you think this looks like. 531 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:56,390 Kind of looks like Danny. 532 00:32:57,970 --> 00:32:59,170 Danny was your brother, correct? 533 00:32:59,450 --> 00:33:00,450 Yeah. 534 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,480 Can you tell me the circumstances of him passing? 535 00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:06,800 He passed away of a heart attack at the age of 55. 536 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,500 How long ago was that? 537 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,020 11 months after my husband died. 538 00:33:12,380 --> 00:33:14,360 So 2008? 2008, yes. 539 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,880 Amy, you're thinking her brother's still here? 540 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Yes. 541 00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:28,980 So the next person I'm going to talk about is an older female. 542 00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:33,620 This female may not be deceased. She may be in the dying process. 543 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,620 So I was confused on if she was dead or dying. 544 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:41,380 I kept hearing 78 with her. She seemed very frail and confused. 545 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:46,400 I got something also going on with the heart, and there's a lot of nausea 546 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,520 associated with her. 547 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,740 You guys think what I'm thinking? 548 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:54,520 My mother is 71 years old. 549 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,320 She... 550 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,800 went in for open -heart surgery and suffered a stroke on the operating 551 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,920 she mentally okay? 552 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Yeah, no, she's not. 553 00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:10,380 Okay. So, Amy, we're pretty convinced it's Kelly's mom who's alive that you're 554 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:13,179 dealing with a tear. Yeah, I'm sorry. 555 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:17,060 I hate to even ask it, but what else? 556 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,159 Now, this is where things get a little unusual. 557 00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:24,780 I saw a woman who was younger. 558 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,900 She looked like your mother, but younger. 559 00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:33,860 Looking into a mirror with a candle, and she was saying something into the 560 00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:39,820 mirror, and I could not hear it. When she did that, she inadvertently opened 561 00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:42,100 a doorway through the mirror. 562 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,540 And now there's quite a few dead people that kind of hang out in the 563 00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:54,800 mirrors. This is very concerning because they can draw energy in from you. 564 00:34:55,150 --> 00:34:57,630 Okay? And that's what makes them negative. All right? 565 00:34:57,970 --> 00:35:03,830 You guys may see people when you look in the mirror, or you may catch people in 566 00:35:03,830 --> 00:35:07,670 movement out of the corner of your eyes concerning any mirror in the house. 567 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:10,310 So you saw a reflection in the window. 568 00:35:10,530 --> 00:35:16,470 Yes. I was washing baby bottles, and I was looking down, and I had, like, 569 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:21,050 glanced up above, you know, the window, and I seen this old lady. She was 570 00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:22,810 standing on this side right behind me. 571 00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:28,280 I totally got creeped out. Like, hell no. Tell Amy how you were able to find 572 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,660 who this woman was that you saw. 573 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:35,240 We were looking through old family photos one time, and I happened to see 574 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,940 lady that I've seen standing behind me. 575 00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:41,960 And I asked my mom who that was, and she had mentioned that that was her 576 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,960 grandma. 577 00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:44,480 So your great -grandmother. 578 00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:46,280 Was she ever in the house? 579 00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:47,499 Oh, yeah. 580 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:49,600 She was there, like, every day. 581 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,420 The thing that worried me was what I did see coming out of the mirror. 582 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,640 I just called it the thing. 583 00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:59,260 It can come and go. 584 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:00,700 Never alive. 585 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,600 Very bizarre looking. 586 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,040 Its skin was like burned looking. 587 00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:08,980 This thing is no good. 588 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:10,720 Very bad. 589 00:36:11,230 --> 00:36:16,650 It also takes energy like the bad dead people, but more so. 590 00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:20,790 Tell her about being lethargic. I feel like that all the time. Tired, drained, 591 00:36:21,010 --> 00:36:23,110 energy sucked out of me. 592 00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:30,630 The other thing that it's doing is it can pick pieces of your personality out 593 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:32,970 and also your memories. 594 00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:38,270 So, you said the thing. You and I kind of look at each other. 595 00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:41,080 Well, that's... Exactly what I call it. The thing. 596 00:36:41,980 --> 00:36:45,100 Exactly. Are you having any memory problems? 597 00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:46,479 Yeah. 598 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,100 You guys kind of looked at each other when Amy mentioned about taking a piece 599 00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:52,180 people's personalities. What was that about? 600 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,820 What's up, Jennifer? Don't hold back. 601 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,160 Well, she's totally, she's totally different when she's here. 602 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,840 Totally different. 603 00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:03,880 She's not herself. 604 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:06,440 Like, she gets mad very easily. 605 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,120 When I walked upstairs, I went into the bedroom to the right. 606 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:16,500 That's Sarah's room. 607 00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:20,480 The female, living female that I got in there, I feel has abilities. 608 00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:25,420 Because of her abilities, there's actually another vortex in the closet. 609 00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:31,440 So what I saw going on up there were the dead coming from the closet surrounding 610 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,820 the bed of this person, this female. 611 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:37,360 These are dead people who want help. 612 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:44,040 But the problem is I saw the thing there, too, and it changed, and it 613 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,440 much smaller, and it was crawling into the bed with this person. 614 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,340 I did have a sketch done of what I saw happen. 615 00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:05,280 You're not going to like seeing this. 616 00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:12,970 That's really sad. 617 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:17,910 Creepy. It's creepy. 618 00:38:23,890 --> 00:38:27,210 She ever told you a story about something and crawling into a bed with 619 00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:32,270 She came in, told me in the morning. She asked me, hey, by any chance, did you 620 00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:34,070 get in bed with me? 621 00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:37,470 And I said, no, I didn't. 622 00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:38,970 That's not good. 623 00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:41,430 I'm speechless, to be honest with you. 624 00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:46,990 You wanted to move out, get the hell out of here. Now you must really want to 625 00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:47,990 leave. Oh, yeah. 626 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:49,870 Yes, I do. 627 00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:51,610 Go pack your stuff now. 628 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:10,510 Well, I can't remember the last time Amy... 629 00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:12,430 seen so much stuff in one house. 630 00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:15,930 Clearly, it's a good thing you guys called us in. 631 00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:21,870 Now the question is, is there anything you can do to fight back and keep the 632 00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:22,870 house and your family? 633 00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:25,390 But for that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 634 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:31,230 You can stay. 635 00:39:32,490 --> 00:39:38,270 But there's a lot, a lot of things that need to be done and on a consistent 636 00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:41,700 basis. For you to be able to stay here in peace. 637 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,440 I'm going to bring in a group of sensitive, including some mediums. 638 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:52,000 The first thing that needs to happen is for your brother to be moved on 639 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000 comfortably. 640 00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:56,420 That'll go fairly quickly because he is very ready to go. 641 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,180 So Amy, do you think the house had anything to do with the death of Kelly's 642 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:01,178 father and husband? 643 00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:02,180 No. 644 00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:04,140 Okay. 645 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,480 The second thing that needs to happen is the large vortex, 646 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:17,380 where this thing is coming in and out of the mirrors, needs to be shut 647 00:40:17,380 --> 00:40:19,200 and severed and sealed. 648 00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:24,760 So once that's done, they will seal the other vortex upstairs. 649 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,780 In Sarah's room. 650 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,700 Yes. Closing these vortexes will keep the dead and the thing from coming 651 00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:33,700 your home. 652 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:40,100 Next, there needs to be a barrier placed around the house. 653 00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:46,640 Get a large bag of salt and take that around the yard where your land ends. 654 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:53,560 The shadow woman is going to be pushed out past your property line. 655 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:57,480 So she won't be able to get back in once this barrier is put around. 656 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,640 I want the barrier redone every two weeks for a year. 657 00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:08,680 Well, it's a hell of a list. 658 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,300 Is this worth you staying here? 659 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,860 Yeah. It is? Yeah. 660 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,880 But you would rather see mom leave? Of course. Yeah. Uh -huh. Yeah. 661 00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:24,540 But she's not, so I've got to live with it, I guess. Yeah. 662 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,540 Mothers are stubborn. Mm -hmm. 663 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:34,760 I really hope Kelly follows my advice by moving her brother on and closing the 664 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,240 vortexes inside her home. 665 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:41,200 Once she does that, she can put a barrier around her property and live 666 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,780 peacefully in the house her father built for many years to come. 56769

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