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So there's been a guy around.
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He's definitely a creeper. It's an
unusual amount of anger that he has.
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When I had woken up, I was being choked.
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We have demons in this house.
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Did he just jump you now?
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Yeah.
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There was bloody handprints all over.
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He can jump into the body of living
people.
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Yeah, sure.
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What's the matter?
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You're scared.
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This makes me nervous.
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He wants to kill them.
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He wants the person dead.
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My name is Amy Allen.
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I see dead people.
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I saw a winged creature.
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I speak to dead people, and they speak
to me.
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This person feels like a monster.
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But there's only one way to know if my
findings are real. They are sucking the
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life out of these people.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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So how many bodies are we talking? And I
know every person, every house has
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secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But
Steve and I never speak. We never
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communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
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You're not going to like this.
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When we uncover if it's safe for you to
stay. I'm sorry. I need to take a break.
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Or time to get out. It wants inside the
house because it wants to kill you.
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I'm here in the desert city of
Victorville, California. It's a couple
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outside of Los Angeles.
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It's hot as hell up here, but this was a
case I just had to take. A desperate
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woman named Monette called, says
whatever's in her house killed her
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and if we can't help, it's going to kill
again.
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My granddaughter has been recently
choked by a demon in her sleep.
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Monette sounds real shook up. I'm hoping
Amy and I can find a way to help her
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out.
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The area has an extremely heavy, sad
vibe.
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Like maybe there had been a great loss
at some point. The problem with
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that is that the living could be
susceptible to feeling this
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sadness, this depression.
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Bad situation.
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Bad situation.
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So, Monette, this is a big, beautiful
home you have here.
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But when we spoke on the phone, you
sounded pretty upset.
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Why don't you tell me what's going on?
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We have demons in this house, and it's a
very dangerous place.
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Demons is pretty specific.
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What makes you say it's demons? From the
things I've seen and the things that
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are going on in this house, I don't
think it could be anything else but.
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Now, you also mentioned on the phone
that the paranormal killed your
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Yes. Tell me about that.
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His name was Thomas, and he was my
really good friend and roommate, and we
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bought the house together.
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He died of a heart attack last year.
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How old was he?
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He was 81.
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A man's 81 years old. Dying from a heart
attack is not uncommon.
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What makes you think it's paranormal
related?
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It's upsetting for you to talk about it?
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He was my friend, and he was very
healthy. It couldn't be anything else.
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We loved him very much, and we miss him.
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So, Monat, let's get to some basics. Who
lives in the house?
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Okay. That's me, and then there's my 20
-year -old granddaughter, Paige, and on
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the other side is Thomas' son, Stephen.
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Do me a favor. Give me a list of what
you guys are experiencing here.
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Well, we're seeing shadow figures.
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People are being physically attacked,
and we're having a lot of mood swings
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fatigue, and we're all getting sick.
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What kind of ailments are we talking
about?
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Stephen also had a heart attack.
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Okay, how old is he?
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He is 52.
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Ooh, okay.
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What else? What about you and your
granddaughter?
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I have broken bones in my ankle and foot
right now. I have no idea how they
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happened. Okay, so you didn't have an
accident and all of a sudden you got
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broken bones?
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Exactly. What about your granddaughter?
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Well, Paige right now is stable from
being a victim of...
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Clival chordoma cancer in her brain.
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She was doing rather well and very
stable.
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Okay. Until we moved in here.
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And now she has several medical issues.
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What about the mood changes? What do you
mean by that?
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I get angry right away.
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I used to be really happy -go -lucky.
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Steven has periodic tantrums. He flies
off the handle for little things.
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Okay. It's just a nice house.
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I mean, is it worth staying here,
though?
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It's all we have, and we can't afford to
leave.
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We're not listening to you. It's
breaking my heart hearing what you guys
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going through, especially with your
granddaughter.
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How are you holding up?
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I'm very, very tired. I don't feel like
I've slept for five years.
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And you believe it's the paranormal?
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Absolutely. Something's sucking the life
out of me and changing the quality of
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my existence.
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So there's been a guy around.
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I think he's like in his 30s age -wise.
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He likes to just watch people.
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Watching, watching, watching.
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He'll like get up on you. He really does
have a pretty intense vibe.
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Even if you aren't seeing him, you would
feel his presence. So you feel kind of
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bothered.
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When he's with you, I think that that
living person would change
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dramatically.
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He's definitely a creeper. Just
unnerving, unsettling.
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This is the worst room in the house.
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Okay, so tell me what's going on.
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Well, there's like a menacing stalker in
this room.
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It feels like somebody's always behind
you.
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wherever I go in this room. Is it
something you can see or is it just a
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presence? No, I can't see it. It's some
type of presence, but it's on you, ready
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to jump at you at any time you feel like
you're going to be attacked.
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What else?
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Things go missing around here all the
time.
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Okay, like what?
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I'll set my keys on the bed. Okay. And
I'll go wash my hands or brush my teeth.
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I'll come back and my keys are gone.
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Tear my room up. I come back and they're
right where they were before.
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Okay, I mean, I misplace stuff all the
time, and I think they're there, but
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they're not. But you're saying it's kind
of like when you come back, it's where
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it was? Exactly where it was, and it's
really pissing me off.
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The Creeper.
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He was a bad guy when he was alive.
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He likes to steal and move things.
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Like what sort of things?
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Like, oh, look, the remote.
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Oh, make that disappear for like a week.
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All right, so what else is going on?
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I have been choked before.
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Tell me about that. What happened?
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My throat was shut, stuck together
inside.
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I could not get any air in or out.
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This went on for a minute and a half. I
really thought I was going to die.
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You think the end goal here is to kill
you or kill everybody in the house?
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I do.
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I absolutely do. And I don't want to be
next.
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Being like a living woman here.
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This is like crazy at night. Okay.
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So I think this dead guy is like really
angry.
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He can jump into the adult. Like here's
the thing.
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It's like he can't like swallow.
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Very hard to swallow when he's in.
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you know, near or in you.
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You feel like you can't breathe, get
lightheaded and dizzy, and then
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compression on the chest.
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And besides being sick is also the rage.
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Do you think that others might be in
danger because of this?
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Yes, I think so.
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Bad, bad, bad.
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I'm a little concerned about you guys,
especially after talking to your
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grandmother about what's going on here.
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Have you had experiences?
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Yes. One was actually in my
grandmother's room where I felt like I
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watched. And in the bathroom, there was
a black shadow walking past.
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So when you said you had the feeling of
being watched, did it feel like it was
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just curiosity or did you feel like it
was, you know, creepy?
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Creepy.
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Any other experiences?
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Yes, one in my bedroom.
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I was sleeping. I was having a nightmare
that I was being chased by a stranger.
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When I had woken up, I was being choked
by what looked like the devil.
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I couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move
for a whole minute.
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You sure it wasn't part of your dream?
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I'm sure. I was up, and I could feel his
weight on me, and I felt his hands
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around me. And then after the whole
minute, he disappeared.
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I thought I was going to die.
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I'm seeing like a little girl.
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Something's happening.
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I'm just hearing her, oh my God, did you
see that?
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Oh my God, did you see that?
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Like I'm wondering if it's that guy,
like the stalkery dude, because like I'm
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not seeing and I'm getting hit from
behind.
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Not good.
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Anything else?
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Yes. Since we have moved into this
house, my health has really gone
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Grandma mentioned that to me.
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So what are we talking about?
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My stomach has made it hard for me to
eat full meals. It makes it to where I
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cannot stand up for more than five
minutes.
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Have you gone to a doctor about what the
hell's going on with you?
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Yes, I have.
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They can't find anything wrong.
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with my stomach at all.
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Well, Grandma thinks this place is
trying to kill you guys, whatever's
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You feel that way?
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Yes. Okay.
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This one dead dude, he's definitely a
jumper.
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I don't like that.
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He's very irritating, though, this guy.
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Why?
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Because he, like, sits in your stomach.
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You can feel him in your stomach.
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It's heavy and, like, it's sick.
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Did he just jump you now?
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When he jumped inside me, I got really
dizzy, couldn't breathe.
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So he has been jumping you this whole
time?
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Yeah.
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Well,
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Steven, first off, I want to extend my
condolences on your father's passing.
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Yeah. What type of guy was he?
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He's the type of person, he'd give you
his last dollar or the shirt off his
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back. I never seen him smoke, never seen
him get your cuss, never drank.
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You must miss him.
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Do you think he's here?
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Yes, watching over the house.
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I understand you're, what, 52?
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Yeah. And you had a heart attack.
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Yeah. In my feelings, you're a young man
to have a heart attack.
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Yeah, too young.
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So that brings me to a point. Monette
was telling me about everybody in the
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house having some rage issues, for lack
of a better word. Yeah, anger issues.
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And particularly you as well. What's
that all about? What's going on?
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It just comes on.
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But I try to keep to myself.
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When you do get angry, how angry do you
get? I don't punch holes in the walls
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anymore.
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Yeah, I used to punch holes in the walls
a long time ago. Too old to do that
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now.
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Like a lot of anger out here.
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Lots of anger.
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This is coming from a male. I think he's
live.
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He's an extremely tense and stressed out
person.
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It's an unusual amount of anger that he
has about his
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life situation.
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He feels like he's just out of control
in his life and like going wrong. He's
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very scared.
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And I see him like punching, like
punching something.
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Do you have any idea how violent this
guy in the garage might become if he was
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being jumped?
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That would not be a good situation.
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Do you think he might be capable of
killing in that state?
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Yes.
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Anything else?
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It was shoved in my bedroom once. So
what happened?
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I just fell back and put a big old hole
for my lower back in the wall.
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So this ain't you punching holes in a
wall and telling everybody else, you
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what, something pushed me.
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No, no, no. I mean, this is no joke. And
you could have fell the wrong way, and
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I've seen it a million times. People
accidentally break their neck on a...
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Simple little floor.
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With all the stuff that's happened to
you here, why don't you just pack up and
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get the hell out?
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Because I have nowhere else to go.
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I don't like this.
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The creeper, he is watching.
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Watching what?
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Whoever's in this room.
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I think he doesn't like them just
standing there watching.
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He's like right here.
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And he's got his knife.
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This makes me nervous.
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He wants to kill them.
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That's not good.
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If you're looking for lots of heat and
open land,
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Victorville is the place for you.
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I was worried I wouldn't find much
history here, but when I called a local
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archivist, she said the Native American
tribe that lived here had a miserable
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time. But it wasn't the settlers who
drove them out. It was another tribe.
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So, Rebecca, I want to thank you for
meeting me out here.
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All right, so who was the tribe that
lived here? Yeah, so they were called
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Serrano tribe, and they had a village in
this area called Tabiapet, and it
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extended into your client's property.
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All right, so I got to think at some
point they came into contact with
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right? Definitely. The Spanish started
arriving in the late 1700s.
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And since the Serrano are peaceful
people, they actually helped them
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the harsh Mojave Desert early on. So how
did the Spanish treat the tribe?
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The Spanish saw the Serrano as pagan and
primitive, so they started trying to
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convert them to Christianity as soon as
possible.
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Some were persuaded pretty easily, while
others had to be forced into it.
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Okay, so when you say forced into it,
what are we talking about? They used
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tactics like starving them into
submission. Essentially, they would
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their crops and their way of life.
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Now, Rebecca, you mentioned on the phone
to me that it wasn't the settlers that
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drove the Serranos out, but it was
another tribe. Who were they? So the
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tribe also lived in this area. They saw
the Serrano as enabling the Spanish.
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They were disgusted that so many of them
had converted to Christianity and the
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Spanish way of life.
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Okay, so how exactly did the Mojave get
rid of the Serrano tribe?
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November of 1819, the Serrano in this
area got wind of a Mojave war party that
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was coming through the area.
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So they actually abandoned Tapayabit,
their village, in hopes to avoid
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But not all of them escaped alive.
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All right, so what happened?
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So we know that at least eight Serrano
didn't make it out of this area.
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So, Rebecca, when I was at my client's
house, I noticed there's a lot of tract
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housing in the area.
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Do you have any idea if they've
uncovered any bodies when they did the
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construction? Not when they were putting
your client's house up, but a rancher
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in the 1940s was plowing his land and
actually unearthed 26 Serrano skeletons,
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and it was in the news.
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It was believed that this mass burial
site was actually a cemetery for
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How far is this from my client's
property?
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So there's a marker on site there today,
and it's about a mile from your
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client's property.
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All right, so it's close.
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Yeah.
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There is a bit of negative energy here.
The sadness gets heavier.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Blah, blah, sad, sad.
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I'm like, is it cursed?
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There are a handful of dead people that
are kind of wandering around.
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I do think something occurred here.
There's something with a curse, okay?
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And that's why things are bad.
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So far, I've got a client who thinks the
paranormal killed her roommate on
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property near a Native American burial
site.
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But I want to see if there's anything
else.
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Searching through old records, I found a
suicide that took place right by
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Monette's house.
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Maybe it's just a coincidence, but this
guy killed himself at the age of 82,
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nearly the exact same age as Monette's
roommate when he died.
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In my experience, it's very rare for
someone that age to kill themselves.
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I'm on my way to meet a historian to see
if there's more to this story.
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So, Don, I want to thank you for helping
me out with this case.
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So the guy that killed himself, who was
he? That would be Robert Turner.
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Here's a photo of him.
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He was one of the key figures in putting
Victorville on the map.
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I assume he was married, kid?
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Yeah, he had six kids, wife Susan.
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You said this guy helped put the city on
the map. How'd he do that?
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He was here at the right time. He
started one of the first large cattle
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locally, and then he diversified into
businesses like a hotel, a general
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and mining.
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He was the king of the Victor Valley for
a while.
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So it sounds like this guy's making
money. I mean, did he have any shady
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going on? There is evidence of land
speculation and shady deals.
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happening here because he was the guy in
charge he pretty much named his price
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when when selling lots and selling ranch
land okay to people coming in okay so
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it was his way or the highway yeah all
right so dylan with the shady dealings
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that part of the reason he kills himself
no he he started to experience personal
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tragedies he lost his youngest son who
was age four to undisclosed causes and
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then in 1899 he lost another son this is
frank and frank ran the general store
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How old was this guy when he died?
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Frank was 24.
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Do we know what he died from?
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We don't know.
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That's a local mystery.
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The final blow was the loss of his wife
in 1912.
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Let's get to the suicide. I mean, what
happened?
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So in 1916, he's 82 years old. Okay.
He's living on the family cattle ranch.
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This is about a mile from your client's
property.
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Okay. He takes this .44 caliber
Winchester lever action, and he
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against the floor, the butt against the
floor, and the muzzle of the gun into
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his chest, and...
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discharges the firearm into his body.
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82 years old, you don't hear a lot of 82
-year -olds committing suicide.
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When you're a man of this character and
you've done all of this and you've built
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a city, decrepitude and old age, it may
not be the easiest thing to swallow.
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The creeper guy keeps following me.
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I'd put him maybe 1908.
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I think...
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He was pretty bad.
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Devious.
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Like, scoundrel.
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I feel like he robbed people.
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Okay, so I did just hear a gunshot.
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What's going on?
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I got a suicide.
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Pretty sure it was a man.
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I just feel really stressed out about
it.
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I was driving around Monette's
neighborhood and rode right by a huge
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Turns out the place opened in 2004, and
there's already been a lot of deaths
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behind those walls.
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I've tracked down a former inmate who's
going to talk to me about his
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experiences there.
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Says it gives him nightmares to this
day.
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JC, I appreciate you meeting with me.
So, I can ask you a question. How'd you
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wind up in Victorville?
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I ended up there on a violation.
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My original case was distribution of
cocaine.
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Okay. Went in, did my time, got out, and
I was actually at a pool party.
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Everybody was smoking weed, so I was
like, decided to take a little hit off a
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joint. Okay.
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Next day, my PO calls me. So I went in,
they arrest me right there and then in
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the office.
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So somebody dropped a dime on you,
without a dime.
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I don't want to think about it, but man,
I wouldn't put it past nobody.
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So when you got there, I mean, you've
been in prison before, so I'm curious,
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what was your impression when you walked
in? I mean, I've been to prison in
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Mexico, and I've seen some pretty wild
stuff. When I got there, the energy I
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felt. It's bad.
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So what kind of things did you see when
you were there?
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I mean, walking in the door, somebody
had already got killed.
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So as soon as we walked into the
kitchen, they were going to feed us.
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blood all over the wall, on the floor,
and handprints, bloody handprints all
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over the wall.
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And I was like, holy, like, what am I
doing back again?
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So your first day there, this is what
you're seeing? Yeah.
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I've heard it's been called Victimville.
Yeah.
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I mean, I know the deal. I was on the
job long enough to know what goes on.
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how did you survive as far as tactically
inside?
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Violence and knives, man.
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Do you know how many homicides there
have been there since it opened?
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Total of eight.
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Okay. Any of those eight stand out to
you?
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In 2005, a guy got stabbed to death over
a couple bucks of tobacco.
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Okay. People might say that that's like
little, but in there it's a lot.
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Okay, anything else that stood out?
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In 2014, there was two cellmates that
got killed in their cell.
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It was never really pinned on nobody.
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They don't know who did it.
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I've heard of a lot of homicides in
jail, but it's the first time it's
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inside the same cell.
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Yeah. So I know a lot of things haunt
me.
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Does that prison still haunt you?
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Sometimes. You know, I hadn't slept for
15 years, and I just barely started
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sleeping a couple of days ago.
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I'm glad to hear that.
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I thought all of these people, they'd
stood up from the earth, and there was
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probably about 20.
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They are wanderers, and they are looking
for help.
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And what I was told was that these were
murder victims who knew too much,
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but were spanning, like, several
decades.
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I saw a lot of disturbing things on my
walk, but the creeper concerns me the
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most.
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He has a hat on, and it's just kind of,
like, beat up. He had tan skin,
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dark hair to his neck.
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His lips are rounded. There's no points
or anything very rounded.
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Next, I described the creeper jumping a
living man in the garage.
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I want to show, like, the dead guy,
like, going into the stomach of
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this living guy.
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I want to show his face enraged because
that's what this guy, like,
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brings out in him.
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Rage.
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Amy, is this what you saw?
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Yes, that's what I saw.
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Now that Amy and I have completed our
investigations, we're ready to reveal
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findings to each other and our clients
for the first time.
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Guys, I'd like you to meet Amy.
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She's going to be doing the reveal from
another room so that we can concentrate
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on your case as well as the dead without
any distractions.
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Amy, I want you to meet the three people
that live in this house. This is
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Monette. She's the one that called us
in. This is her granddaughter, Paige,
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who's 20.
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And this is Steven, who is a family
friend and the co -owner of the house.
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Monette and Paige are terrified and
think that whatever's here is evil and
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to kill.
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So unless Amy's got some questions for
you guys, she'll tell us about her war.
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When I first got here, the feelings that
I got were extreme
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sadness, and that just kind of permeates
this area.
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which indicated to me that there had
been some type of substantial loss. The
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living here may be prone to having
depressive episodes and feeling
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lost. I've never actually been one to be
depressed, but I have been since I've
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moved here.
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It's probably a shot in the dark, but
it's something you probably should know
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about that came up in research.
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This land was originally settled by the
Serrano Indians.
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Now, their village actually extended
through your property here. In the
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1700s, Spanish settlers came. They saw
that tribe as being primitive and
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converting them to Christianity.
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Anyone who resisted was tortured.
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Oh. So eventually they got driven out of
this area, but not by the Spanish
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settlers, by the neighboring Mojave
tribe.
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Now, in 1940, a local farmer was plowing
his land about a mile from here. He
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stumbled onto a Serrano burial site, and
there was remains of 26 people.
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Now, I got a photo of it.
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It's kind of sad to look at.
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Now, do you think the sadness might have
came from this tribe?
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Mm -hmm, yeah.
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00:29:17,390 --> 00:29:18,590
So, what else?
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What I feel is affecting you the most.
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and is the biggest problem here.
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There's one very conscious, pretty
dangerous dead guy who is here.
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I called him the creeper because he
likes to watch people. He likes to
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00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:43,600
get right up on you, like almost to
where he's at your back and like his
472
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,359
right here.
473
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,040
One time when I was in my grandma's
room, I felt like I was being watched.
474
00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:53,910
And then out of nowhere, there was a
shadow in my grandma's room walking past
475
00:29:53,910 --> 00:29:54,910
the doorway.
476
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:58,030
And there was no way it was coming from
the outside, correct?
477
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:59,230
No.
478
00:29:59,990 --> 00:30:02,590
His thing, you know, he loves to steal
things.
479
00:30:03,790 --> 00:30:09,650
Something as stupid as, like, he would
take, you know, a remote control and,
480
00:30:09,690 --> 00:30:12,230
like, hide it for, like, a week.
481
00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:17,050
And then you would find it exactly where
you put it.
482
00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:19,930
Oh, it's pretty amazing.
483
00:30:20,670 --> 00:30:26,050
Sadly, it's exactly like she said. I'll
have my keys sitting on my bed, and I'll
484
00:30:26,050 --> 00:30:30,250
go wash my hands or brush my teeth, come
back, the keys are absolutely gone. I
485
00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:33,950
go to look for a spare, and there they
are, sitting in the exact same spot.
486
00:30:34,890 --> 00:30:37,930
So absolutely irritating beyond belief.
487
00:30:38,290 --> 00:30:40,550
Any idea who this guy might have been
when he was alive?
488
00:30:41,030 --> 00:30:46,170
He was from way back. I kept hearing
1908 for some reason.
489
00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:50,770
Definitely got the impression that he
wasn't a great guy when he was alive.
490
00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:52,550
He liked to rob people.
491
00:30:52,810 --> 00:30:56,810
I just got that he was a scoundrel and
that he was very devious.
492
00:30:57,730 --> 00:30:59,930
So I think he was just a criminal.
493
00:31:00,170 --> 00:31:05,970
He also loved knives. He was obsessed
with them.
494
00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:12,930
His death was not great. It was
something like choking. He couldn't
495
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,040
I mean, for me, it's not a lot to go on.
But one of the things you were saying,
496
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:24,320
especially the 1908 part, had me
thinking of one of the city's founding
497
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,480
His name was Robert Turner, and he came
here from Pennsylvania in the 1860s.
498
00:31:28,540 --> 00:31:32,740
Robert built a very successful cattle
ranch less than a mile from your house
499
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:37,420
here. But according to the expert I
spoke to, he wasn't that good of a guy.
500
00:31:37,420 --> 00:31:41,960
made some shady deals, but he also
suffered from some personal tragedies.
501
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,600
lost his four -year -old son in 1881.
502
00:31:44,590 --> 00:31:50,130
After that happened, his 24 -year -old
son dropped dead of unknown causes in
503
00:31:50,130 --> 00:31:52,830
1899. I got a picture of the son.
504
00:31:55,650 --> 00:32:00,890
Now, the biggest blow to this guy came
in 1912 when Turner's wife died after an
505
00:32:00,890 --> 00:32:07,410
illness. Now, this is all too much for
Turner. In 1916, he took a .44 rifle,
506
00:32:07,710 --> 00:32:12,770
put it against his body, basically in
his chest, blew his chest out.
507
00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:16,770
Now, I've seen what a .44 rifle could do
to somebody that close.
508
00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:18,090
It must have been a mess.
509
00:32:18,430 --> 00:32:19,990
Now, I got a photo of this guy.
510
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:22,730
Was there any way that this guy could be
the creeper?
511
00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:26,690
I had a sketch done of a person I
encountered.
512
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:38,270
Oh, yeah, this looks nothing like the
two guys I just showed you. He's a
513
00:32:38,270 --> 00:32:40,030
miserable -looking son of a bitch, isn't
he?
514
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Wow.
515
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Very scary.
516
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,320
It's creepy.
517
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,780
You know, this was a ranch years ago.
This place was filled with cowboys and
518
00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:54,360
stuff. Could this guy have been maybe a
ranch hand that was a drifter that came
519
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,000
through? That could be, yeah.
520
00:32:57,180 --> 00:33:00,360
Okay, so we don't know who this creeper
guy is, but you did say he was
521
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,900
dangerous. So what does he do?
522
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:06,080
He can jump into the body of living
people.
523
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,740
He did it to me during the walk.
524
00:33:16,709 --> 00:33:18,470
So did he just jump you now?
525
00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:27,350
I felt sick, dizzy, couldn't breathe,
and I felt like I
526
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:28,350
couldn't swallow.
527
00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:31,950
This is something that the living here
could experience.
528
00:33:34,170 --> 00:33:35,290
You okay, sweetie?
529
00:33:36,270 --> 00:33:37,630
Yeah, sure.
530
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:44,370
You okay?
531
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:48,380
Is that a bug?
532
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,660
Yeah. You okay?
533
00:33:50,140 --> 00:33:51,740
Yeah. What's the matter?
534
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,740
I'm just scared.
535
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:55,220
You're just scared?
536
00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:58,240
Have you seen that creepy before?
537
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,700
That face. I've seen him in one of my
nightmares.
538
00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,320
Yeah? That's what tripped me up.
539
00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:06,920
I told you it was going to get real.
540
00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:09,380
You okay?
541
00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:10,460
Yeah.
542
00:34:11,139 --> 00:34:12,260
You okay, sweetie?
543
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,400
Paige, when you see that, what's going
through your mind?
544
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:26,179
One night I was having a nightmare, and
it was a stranger that was choking
545
00:34:26,179 --> 00:34:32,580
me. When I had woken up, the stranger
had turned into the devil, and I
546
00:34:32,580 --> 00:34:38,179
breathe for a good minute. I felt his
weight on top of my chest, and he was
547
00:34:38,179 --> 00:34:41,340
sitting on top of me, choking me and
laughing at me.
548
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,980
And then after one minute, he
disappeared.
549
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:49,830
Listen to me. Listen to me. It's going
to be okay, all right? I'm not going
550
00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:51,429
anywhere. Nobody's going to leave here.
551
00:34:51,989 --> 00:34:55,290
We're going to find out what the hell to
do with this guy, and we're going to
552
00:34:55,290 --> 00:34:56,290
get rid of him, okay?
553
00:34:56,690 --> 00:35:01,510
All right? Can I get your jacket,
Grandma, so I can get this cold off of
554
00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:02,810
Yeah.
555
00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:06,030
Is that better? Feel better?
556
00:35:06,990 --> 00:35:11,310
So talking about being choked, you had
the same, something similar happen to
557
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:18,260
you? Yes. I woke up, and it felt as
though... Fingers had squeezed the
558
00:35:18,260 --> 00:35:19,178
my throat shut.
559
00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:22,040
I don't know how long it was, but to me
it was like an eternity.
560
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,260
Super scary, and I thought that was it.
561
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:31,480
It's a possibility that you were
experiencing what he went through when
562
00:35:32,580 --> 00:35:36,240
Another thing about this guy, he can
make you very sick.
563
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:42,220
When he jumped me, I felt this, like,
weight in my stomach. And, like, it was
564
00:35:42,220 --> 00:35:43,220
uncomfortable.
565
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,820
You should know that everybody here has
health issues and they're sick and
566
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:49,160
they're blaming it all on the
paranormal.
567
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,240
Start with you, Paige. You told me all
about that.
568
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,840
I get a lot of pain in my stomach to
where I just lay in bed all day.
569
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,860
I'm usually cranky when it happens.
570
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,460
You've had issues before.
571
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,680
She's a brain cancer survivor.
572
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,820
She's still being checked every so
often.
573
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Yes, but they haven't found anything
wrong with my stomach.
574
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:16,040
It's been three years and still nothing
on it. Now, Monette, you've got health
575
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,920
issues. Right now I have broken bones in
my feet and my ankles that I knew
576
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,600
nothing about nor how I got them.
577
00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:27,740
Yeah, I've had a heart attack and didn't
even know I had one.
578
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,120
And you're only 52.
579
00:36:29,460 --> 00:36:31,880
Yeah. Amy, there's something else you
should know.
580
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,580
Stephen's dad died of a heart attack
when he lived here.
581
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,600
So, Monette, tell Amy why you think it's
the paranormal that killed him.
582
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,500
Because this man never smoked or drank,
and he was a Christian man.
583
00:36:42,980 --> 00:36:44,200
Very godly man.
584
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:46,040
This is a picture of him right here.
585
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,280
Yes.
586
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,700
Stephen thinks he's still here.
587
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,280
What do you think, Amy?
588
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:54,740
I don't think he's here anymore, which
is great.
589
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,760
Well, that's us.
590
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Well, you feel better that your dad's
moved on?
591
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,320
Yeah. He had a one -way ticket to
heaven.
592
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,920
So, Amy, this dead guy, does he do
anything else?
593
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,940
When he jumps people, he will heighten
their emotions.
594
00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:17,600
So if you're prone to anger or if you're
prone to sadness or whatever, he'll
595
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,800
make that tenfold.
596
00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:25,920
I saw an incident in the garage where
this person, this male, was so angry and
597
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,680
very upset about his life situation. And
he was thinking that he was cursed or
598
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,480
something because things were always
going so bad.
599
00:37:35,050 --> 00:37:37,730
And I saw the dead guy jump into him.
600
00:37:37,970 --> 00:37:39,770
I did have a sketch done of this.
601
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:52,990
Oh, jeez.
602
00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:56,730
Looks like Steven.
603
00:37:58,090 --> 00:37:59,750
Makes perfect sense to me.
604
00:38:01,090 --> 00:38:02,310
That is amazing.
605
00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:08,970
Do you recall ever being in the garage
and getting mental like that?
606
00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:10,370
Yeah.
607
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:18,310
My fear is that if he jumped a living
person who was in this state, he
608
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:19,710
could make that person violent.
609
00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:22,550
He might be able to make that person
kill someone.
610
00:38:26,330 --> 00:38:29,290
Now, that makes me extremely concerned.
611
00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:31,350
I feel very uncomfortable.
612
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,200
That explains a lot to me, and it
actually pisses me off.
613
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Very scary.
614
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,240
So, you guys thought you had a demon in
the house.
615
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,220
Good news is, you don't.
616
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,720
Bad news is, this creeper guy, Might as
well have been a demon.
617
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,500
Now the question is, can you get rid of
this and get back to a normal life? And
618
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:10,940
if so, what's that going to take?
619
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,260
For that answer, I'm going to turn it
over to Amy.
620
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,580
So there's, like, good news, and then
there's bad news.
621
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,740
As far as the dead guy is concerned,
there...
622
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,980
is something that can be done to get rid
of him, five people,
623
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,520
a team that I would be putting together,
would come here.
624
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:46,540
They're kind of a mixed bag of people,
like X -Medians, pagans, Satanists, you
625
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:47,540
know, the whole nine.
626
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:54,200
The first thing that they would do is
what's called a cord cutting between you
627
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,600
guys and him.
628
00:39:56,710 --> 00:40:03,570
then a shaman will actually be removing
him, the
629
00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:05,710
dead guy, from this situation.
630
00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:13,810
The bad news is that this area is
really, really,
631
00:40:14,170 --> 00:40:19,710
really thick with this awful residual
energy.
632
00:40:20,090 --> 00:40:26,930
The problem is that you can't... Get rid
of
633
00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:27,930
this.
634
00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:36,030
So in order for you to stay here, you
would literally have to do
635
00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:41,970
cleansings of your home, and this would
have to be something you did pretty much
636
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:44,210
on a daily basis.
637
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:48,650
It's up to you if that's something you
want to take on.
638
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:54,270
Her bad news was just as good as her
goodness for me.
639
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:56,480
Okay. Good.
640
00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:00,540
A billion pounds lifted off my shoulders
right now.
641
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:04,180
Good. Paige, do you feel better about
it?
642
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:05,720
Yes, I do.
643
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,940
We can get all the negative and
depression out.
644
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,960
Great. How about you, big guy? Oh, yeah.
645
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:18,100
Definitely get the, you know, evil out
of here.
646
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,380
I'm feeling really blessed and ready to
get back to normal.
647
00:41:22,830 --> 00:41:25,930
Yes, I'm looking forward to you guys
getting back to that.
648
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:27,930
I feel lighter.
649
00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:29,670
Good. I really do.
650
00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:34,610
Monette, Paige, and Steven have suffered
long enough.
651
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:39,370
I really hope they follow my advice and
cleanse their house of negative energy,
652
00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:45,090
as well as work with a shaman to remove
the creeper. If they do, I'm confident
653
00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:48,710
they can live in their home peacefully
for many years to come.
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