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I see blood on the walls.

A woman says they have trapped us in
here.

It's freaky, you know, like my heart's
pounding. I don't know what I'm going to

encounter.

That night, both projectors broke on me,
like in the middle of the show.

It was like a brutal murder.

He pulls out a .357 and shoots her twice
in the chest.

She had been...

Horribly assaulted.

Here I'm just feeling the overwhelming
urge to run.

Oh, the dark is getting darker.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people.

There is a skin locker here.

I speak to dead people.

And they speak to me.

Who wants to collect the women.

But there's only one way to know if my
findings are real.

They're stalking the life out of these
people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShavit. I'm a retired New
York City homicide detective.

This is the kind of case that would have
haunted me. And I know every person,

every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them. But Steve
and I never speak. We never communicate

during an investigation.

Until the very end.

Is that what I think it is?

Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for
you to stay. I told you he was trying to

kill me.

We're time to get out. You have it,
Doug.

Burst them inside you.

So I'm out here in the City of Angels,
Los Angeles, California.

I got a call from a guy named Daniel who
runs a big Hollywood landmark, the

Silent Theater.

He sounded really bad and said the
activity there is out of control.

Now, this place is a very important part
of Hollywood history, so closing it is

not an option.

But Daniel's worried if we can't fix
things, someone's going to get seriously

hurt.

Okay, I don't like this.

I don't like it. I don't like it.

I'm getting a really bad ViBot display
coming in here. All I felt was, like,

evil.

So, Daniel, I got to tell you, this is a
hell of a place you got here. Thank

you. So, I'm curious, why did you call
us here? There are things that go on

that I cannot explain.

Okay. And...

I don't want anything bad to happen to
any of my employees or any of my

customers at all. I can't have bad
things happen to my customers, for sure.

So Daniel, when you say strange things
you can't explain, what are we talking

about here?

I feel like there's some sort of
presence here. Okay.

And I don't know how to deal with it. So
Daniel, let's start with some basics.

I mean, how long have you been here?

I moved here from Australia two years
ago to run this place.

Oh, so you came here to work here? Yeah,
that's right.

I've always loved movies, like ever
since I was a little kid. So this is

like a dream job for me.

Did you know anything about this joint?
I knew it's a historic building. I knew

it's an important cinema, an important
part of LA history, but that's about it.

When did you start noticing activity?

The first time I was alone in the
building.

Do me a favor, give me a list of what
you guys are experiencing.

There are footsteps.

Staff have felt anxious here.

Things that turn on and off by
themselves.

There's like a feeling of being watched.

And it's even gotten physical.

Okay, so you got a lot of things going
on.

Let's talk about the feeling of being an
anxious. What can you tell me about

that? If I come in here, especially if
I'm coming in alone, I will expect

something to happen.

If anything happens, then it really goes
through the roof. I go to investigate

and it's, you know, it's freaky. You
know, like my heart's pounding. I don't

know what I'm going to encounter.

I'm like looking around corners. I'm
jumping at shadows.

So with all this stuff that's going on
here, what are you hoping we could do

you? This is a place that I deeply care
about.

And I want it to be the best it can be.

I think everyone just wants to not be
freaked out when they come to work.

Which is okay.

It's pretty reasonable, right? Right.
Okay.

The dad's here.

They want help.

There's a lot of them.

A woman says they have trapped us in
here.

So who's trapping them here?

This guy puts them in a glass box.

He told me that he's got everything
under control here and that I don't need

bother with this situation.

He looks really creepy. I saw red skin
and, like, snake

eyes.

And when I saw that, I heard scoffs.

And so he's walking out, and he turns,
and he winks, and his eyes are black.

He's a threat to the dead here.

Any idea how this might affect the
living here?

Nausea, pain, feeling intense panic, and
then fear.

For no reason.

Problem is, that guy does control
everybody here.

Okay, so Danny, you brought me up here.
What's going on?

I usually hear footsteps above me, which
is just out there, which is the roof.

Okay. Does anybody have access to the
roof? No one's got access to the roof.

Okay. Do you hear the footsteps anyplace
else?

Sometimes it sounds like almost like
they're coming in from the hallway and

there's no one else in the building.

Okay. Anything else?

I get a real sense that I'm being
watched.

Okay. So now the feeling of being
watched is different for everybody.

what you're feeling. Is it like a
peeping Tom type of thing?

Or somebody's standing right behind you?

It's the feeling of someone kind of
hovering behind me. Right behind you?

It's not particularly pleasant.

What do you think it is watching you? It
feels kind of human, I guess.

Not like an animal watching me or
anything like that.

Do you have any clues to what the hell
is here?

I have no idea.

This place has been around for a long
time.

A lot of people have come through this
place.

Who knows?

I'm seeing that creepy -looking guy with
the red skin up here.

He has a hammer with him.

He told me that he's keeping up with
everything here.

The living may hear him trying to fix...

I think they can hear the dead he's
trapping, too. They would hear crying,

a woman crying, possibly hear people
struggling and screaming, yelling.

So Claire, I was talking to your
boyfriend, Daniel. He told me that you

used to work here.

Yeah, I did social media for them for
about three months.

He also told me that you've had some
experiences in the theater.

Yeah, I do feel like there has been a
presence as well.

Like somebody's watching me,
specifically in the hall upstairs.

So over here, this hallway here. That's
right, yeah.

You feel like it doesn't want you here?

Maybe not that I'm not wanted here, just
that it's...

It's somebody's home at some point, you
know? I just feel like... Like you're in

their space?

Yeah. Anything else?

There was this one incident where I
heard a voice calling out to me.

All right, so what did you hear?

I thought it was my boyfriend Daniel
calling me.

Okay, where was he?

He actually wasn't even in the building.

He was out in the backyard.

Did you confront him and ask him if he
called you? I was like, what were you

calling me about? And he was like, I
wasn't.

What went through your mind?

Everything. I was really scared. It
really shook me.

I think that the living here would hear
a lot of people talking.

It's like wicked panic, like screaming
and sadness, heart

pounding, so conduced.

The residual energy here is so thick. It
feels like an elephant is just sitting

on your chest, just crushing you.

I feel like I'm, like, being assaulted.

And I see blood on the wall.

So, Drew, I understand that you just
started working here?

About a month ago.

About a month ago?

Yes. So have you had any experiences
since you've been here?

Well, I've heard voices through a spirit
box.

Okay, that's the thing that paranormal
investigators use.

Yes, we did an investigation with
another paranormal team.

So we were in the movie theater, and the
paranormal team was just asking a few

questions to start off.

What did you hear?

When they asked if there was a presence
here, it was a clear yes.

When they asked how many people here, it
was a clear number seven.

All right, so I'm curious. Do you think
that maybe anybody in the team was kind

of trying to show off in front of you or
maybe trying to play games?

No. Okay, so you thought it was sincere?

Yes, absolutely.

All right, so anything else?

I just got a general feeling of
creepiness from that back office up

just the whole corridor itself.

Okay, you're not the only one. That
seems to be a prime spot for people.

we do not like it up there.

What are we talking about? How do you
feel?

It seems like an energy that doesn't
really want people there.

Okay. Is there anything else? The ice
machine right behind me just started

shooting out ice.

Is it defective? It's just a non
-working ice machine that all of a

throughout the day started shooting out
ice sporadically about every half hour.

So, Joe, I'm curious if my partner at
the end of the investigation said,

you got something pretty dangerous here.

You've got to be careful or it's going
to hurt somebody.

How would you react to that?

I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable
being here knowing that. If she gave you

a game plan to try to deal with it,
you'd be on board to help out with that?

absolutely. This place is definitely
worth trying to save if it came down to

something like that.

As soon as I came in here, it was just a
rush of, like, intense energy.

Throws your equilibrium off.

So I think the living might feel vertigo
here.

Like getting the spins and feeling just
kind of like, ooh.

God, the energy here is like hard to
concentrate.

Feels like I cannot breathe.

So, Daryl, I was talking to Daniel, and
he told me that you're the projections

tier. Yeah. Do you spend a lot of time
here?

Yeah, I've spent a lot of late nights
here, toiling away in that booth.

Daniel also mentioned that most of the
staff here have had experiences they

can't explain.

Does that include you?

Yes. All right, so do me a favor and
tell me about some of the experiences

you've had.

It was the first time I actually ran a
full feature film.

Our technicians had spent quite a few
months making sure the projectors were

running smoothly.

And that night, both projectors broke on
me, like in the middle of the show. And

the film just started spaghetti -ing all
over the floor.

Okay, so what makes you think that's a
paranormal thing and not just faulty

equipment? They were perfectly tuned,
like as, you know, pristine as they

possibly be. And yet, they just both
broke on me at the same exact time.

like sabotage. Yeah.

Okay, anything else?

I was here one time late at night
working, and I felt a hand just reach

grab my butt. Were you alone?

Yeah, I was here alone.

Okay, and when that happened, how did
you react?

My heart was definitely pumping. I
nervously laughed a little bit and just

of checked the room, and nothing was
behind me.

So I just called it a night, just packed
up everything and left.

You're like trying to laugh it off.

Yeah.

I try not to freak myself out, but it
was a distinct hand. Like, I felt, like,

fingers, like, grabbing. If it could
happen to me, I would be worried if it

could happen to somebody else.

I'm seeing a younger -looking dead
person.

This is a woman.

She touches people.

She's touched people on their legs, so
they might have heard her.

uh or felt her touching them here i'm
just feeling the overwhelming urge to

here i feel like i need to run i need to
get the out of here

or or i'm gonna die

One thing about Hollywood, everyone here
is either in the entertainment business

or pretending to be.

But I reached out to The Real Deal, a
local historian.

He says the original owner of the silent
theater loved movies.

Loved them so much, they ended up
killing them.

So Dave, I want to thank you for helping
me out with this case.

Do me a favor, tell me about the guy
that got this theater up and running.

name was John Hampton, and he was a huge
silent movie fan.

He began collecting silent films at the
age of 13 in Oklahoma City. He buys a

film projector and starts showing silent
films in his parents' house to friends

and neighbors and charging them five
cents a head.

And that's where he meets his future
wife, Dorothy.

Right, so he meets his future wife at a
young age.

Yeah, and they got married in 1934.

So in 1940, the couple moved to Los
Angeles. So on February 25, 1942, they

opened what they called the Old Time
Movie Theater.

And it's a 250 -seat theater, and it's
actually in the same building that

investigating right now. I actually have
a photo of the grand opening.

And the only films they're showing are
silent movies, which are films that are

made pre -1927.

So I assume this is a family -run
business.

Yeah. And John's running the projection.

He's doing the two turntables to play
the music.

Dorothy has a chair where she's taking
tickets on one side and then flipping

around and selling candy on the other
side.

All right, so these are two hard
-working people.

Yeah. The theater was an immediate
success.

They filled the place.

Everybody from Max Bennett to Mae West
to Charlie Chaplin would come, and it

took off right away.

All right, so those are big names back
in those days. Yeah. Now, Dave, you

mentioned on the phone that movies wound
up killing this guy. What do you mean

by that? Well, in addition to collecting
films... Hampton was a passionate

preservationist, and Hampton, in
preserving us, would put these films in

bathtub and use these noxious chemicals
to keep them preserved. But

unfortunately, he winds up breathing a
lot of the chemicals in, and it

ultimately led to him getting lung
cancer. After 37 successful years,

got to shut the movie theater down. Oh,
that's a shame. So the stuff that he

loved so passionately wound up making
him sick. So what happened with him?

Ultimately, they had to sell their film
collection for $400 ,000 to a wealthy

collector in order to pay for Hampton's
medical treatment.

And 11 years later, unfortunately, in
1990, he passes away. And here's a copy

his death certificate from the county.

But that's not the end of the story,
because a year after he died in 1991,

wife Dorothy teamed up with a fellow
silent film lover named Lawrence Austin,

and they opened the silent movie theater
in the same spot. You know, it was a

tough break for this guy, but...

How many people would say they worked
with something they loved and did it

whole life?

I'm seeing that guy with the red skin
again.

Do you get anything on him in life?

This guy's from back east.

He says he thinks his name is John or
Jim.

He thinks he died in the 60s. At the age
of 68, he thinks.

He looked younger than what he claims
the age he died at. He looked like he's

his early 40s. I believe he has brown
hair from what I could see. He has,

a straw hat.

Any idea what his relationship to the
place is?

I believe, like, the way he came off to
me was that he was some kind of an

owner. He's angry. Angry man.

He's bad.

So I just got a call from my friend
Cheryl Dorsey, who's a retired LAPD

sergeant. She tells me there was a
murder right in the lobby of the silent

theater. And get this, the victim was
one of the owners of the place.

It's great to see you again, Cheryl. I
appreciate you helping me out.

On the phone, you mentioned the victim
owned the place. Who are we talking

about? So his name is Lawrence Austin.
He's a big time movie buff.

Here's a picture of him.

Well, I already came across this guy's
name in research. He's the one that

talked the widow of the owner to
reopening this place.

Right, so he was able to get Hampton's
widow, Dorothy, to allow him to reopen

the theater in 1991, and it became known
as the Silent Theater.

All right, so what else do we know about
this guy? He was very eccentric, and he

was known for his perfectly done hair,
very colorful suit.

He himself was a bit of a showman. So
this guy sounds like a real character.

How did the business go?

Actually very well. It was quite a
success. Most of the shows sold out.

So what happened next?

So Dorothy has moved into an assistant
care home.

Now, the theater deed and all of its
contents were eventually signed over to

Austin. At that time, it was worth about
a million dollars.

All right, so I know things go bad. What
happened?

So Austin began this tumultuous love
affair with this guy named James Van

Sickle. They met in 1991.

Okay. Austin was 69.

Van Sickle was 28.

There was a 41 -year difference in their
age.

Van Sickle learns the business and
becomes the projectionist. To show his

and commitment, Austin then puts Van
Sickle's name as the beneficiary in his

will. Okay, so I can see where this is
going.

So on January 17, 1997, at about 8 .30 p
.m., a man was seated in the theater

wearing a golf hat.

Okay. He gets up, he walks out of the
theater, into the lobby, and confronts

Sickle. Austin, and the concession
stand.

He pulls out a .357 and shoots him in
the face. Then two more times in the

at close range.

So it sounds like he's probably DOA at
the scene.

Yeah, and here's his death certificate.

Ooh, okay. I feel like somebody got shot
here.

A male. This is a male being shot.

He's got kind of wavy hair.

He's thin.

I would think that he worked here.

It feels like he was doing something,
like working, and then this happened.

The impact was so quick, out of nowhere,
this happens, you know, and he's like,

what the?

Does he know who's doing this?

I feel like there's two men involved,
and I get, like, R, the letter R.

Do you have any idea when this was?

It feels like it happened yesterday.

So what happened next?

So then the gunman turns to the
concession clerk, 19 -year -old Mary

shoots her twice in the chest, and then
he reenters the theater, ran down the

aisle and out the back door right
through this alley.

Okay. So he would have run right past
us.

What about this poor girl?

Miraculously, she survived the shooting.
However, she did require major surgery.

I mean, sounds like a hit, but was it a
robbery? How'd the investigation go?

Well, what happens is, after Mary's
surgery, she meets with the police, and

she's able to actually help them. They
draw a sketch of the suspect, and then

eight weeks later, they capture the
shooter, 19 -year -old Christian

and he gives it up. He makes a full
confession.

All right, so we've got a perfect
confession, right? What was the

So it wasn't a robbery gone bad as it
first appeared. It was actually a paid

hit. Austin's partner, Van Sickle...

had paid this young kid, Christian
Rodriguez, $25 ,000 to kill Austin and

an additional $5 ,000 to kill the young
girl, Mary, to make it look as though it

were a robbery.

Okay, so this guy's a real piece of...
So not only does he contract the hit,

now this girl, Mary, winds up being a
sacrificial lamb and almost lost her

All right, so I got to assume they pick
up Van Sickle.

Does he go to trial? They plea out? What
happens?

So, Steve, they were both tried
together, and they were both sentenced

without the possibility of parole.

This is a pretty brutal story,
especially about this young girl that

to do with anything.

It's like wicked panic.

I feel like there's somebody else who's
dying.

I'm seeing that woman who touches people
again.

She was young, between 17 and, like, 22.

I feel like I'm being assaulted.

I think it was like a brutal murder of
this woman and possibly a

male.

This feels really recent.

What I was seeing was more like some
kind of sacrifice.

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So far, I have a client terrified about
the safety of his employees and

customers in a historic theater where
one of the previous owners was murdered.

But I want to see if there's anything
else.

Searching through old records, I come
across an article about an old action

movie called The Skyway Man. They were
shooting stunts right near the silent

theater when something went terribly
wrong, and two pilots ended up crashing

their deaths.

I'm heading over to meet a stuntman who
knows all about this tragedy.

He says one of the stuntmen had an
incredible story I'm definitely going to

to know about.

Well, Hugh, I appreciate you coming out
here and talking to me about this case.

My pleasure.

Do me a favor. Before we get to the
crash, what can you tell me about this

Ormer Locklear was from Texas.

Okay. He was a bit of a daredevil,
motorcycles, things like that. And he

up joining the Army in their air service
to fly because he was fascinated with

planes. All right, so obviously he got
the taste for this daredevil stuff.

Yeah. Do you know what kind of stunts he
started doing? He started doing

transfers. He would transfer from one
plane to the other in mid -flight.

Is this him? That's him hanging from
underneath the landing gear.

I mean, I know the picture's old, but it
doesn't look like there's any ropes or

any kind of line.

They use no safety lines, and they use
no parachutes.

This guy had to be crazy.

I know you said he was from Texas. How
did he wind up in Hollywood?

His manager actually made that happen.
He became famous as a stunt pilot and

went to Hollywood and started as a
stuntman.

Back then, everything was practical. If
you needed to see a plane flying and

crashing on fire, you got someone to fly
a plane and crash it on fire, just like

in this footage.

All right, so these guys were the
beginning of real stunt work.

They're the forefathers of the business.
When it came to flying, the things that

he did were pretty incredible.

Takes a lot of guts.

Yes, it does.

Do me a favor. Tell me about this movie
where he gets killed. The crash happened

August 2nd, 1920.

Okay. And they were doing a night scene.

His flying partner, Milton Elliott, was
flying the plane. Okay.

And Locklear was in the back seat, and
he was lighting off the flares to make

look like the plane was on fire.

Okay. So what happens is they would fly
at a couple thousand feet. Okay. And

they would stall the plane and have it
spin round and round, spiral straight to

the ground. At the time, they called it
the death spiral.

It sounded like a pretty straightforward
stunt, but something went wrong. What

happened? Well, being the first time
they were doing it at night, they had

big, large spotlights.

Unfortunately, the lights never got shut
off.

Milton, blinded by the lights, couldn't
see until he was too close to the

ground, about 200 feet.

And they impacted the ground in front of
everybody filming on the whole crew.

Oh.

All right, so I got to assume these guys
died on impact.

Yes. It was a very violent crash, as you
can imagine.

Crushed and mangled and burned in
airplane accident. I've never seen that

cause of death on a death certificate
before.

I don't think they would write that up
that way today.

So, Hugh, you know the area pretty well.
I mean, how far was that crash from

where my client's movie theater is?

It's about a mile.

Did they ever do the movie over, or did
they just scrub it? No, they finished

the movie. That was basically the last
shot of the film.

They used it in the film and showed it
in the theaters.

This is from a paper.

I mean, they wouldn't get away with that
today. No.

Actually showing his spectacular crash
to Earth.

The guy's dead. Yes.

It's hurtful. Pretty cold.

Is there any way I can look this movie
up to watch it? Unfortunately, no copies

of the film or any of the footage exist.

It's lost to time.

Feeling energy coming at me from the
right and the left and here, pushing me

back.

And then as soon as I came in here, it
was like again.

I just saw the earth falling away.

And it was weird because it was the sky
underneath.

And immediately on the floor, I saw
three people who were burned.

And they're like kind of crawling.
They're all up.

But this one dude who was really trying
to communicate, like I felt

that, you know, that they want help.

I saw several disturbing things on my
walk, but two stood out.

First, the red -skinned man.

He had more of an oval face.

He was wearing, like, one of those straw
hat things.

So his cheekbones aren't really sharp.

They're softer.

Next, I described the group of dead
people who are trapped inside the

There's like three burn victims.

Flesh is gone.

Two of them are just kind of laying
there.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I have completed our
investigations, we're ready to reveal

findings to each other and our clients
for the first time.

So guys, meet Amy. She'll be doing the
reveal from a separate room so she can

concentrate on your case and the dead
without any distractions.

Amy, meet Daniel and his employee, Drew.

You probably already figured it out, but
this is a movie theater.

In fact, it's a Hollywood landmark.

Trouble is, activity's bad, and Daniel
is worried someone's going to get hurt.

If that happens, they're going to have
to shut the place down.

Daniel loves the theater, and he's
determined to keep it open, and that's

we're here.

So let's see if he's got some questions,
and she'll describe her walk with us.

I did encounter quite a few dead
individuals during my walk, and

the dead here feel as though someone is
trapping them here.

And I do feel like the living can be
affected by the dead here as far as

anxious and unstable.

Daniel, you mentioned sometimes you get
anxious here. When I'm here by myself, I

have like a lingering sensation of
creepiness like in the back of my mind.

The dead do talk a lot here. So I
thought that the living would have more

experiences along the line of hearing
people talking.

and making various, you know, noises.

Now, you heard voices, Drew, right?

Yes. Tell Amy what you heard.

So a paranormal team was here doing
their own investigation.

They were using a spirit box, just
asking really basic questions.

Is there anyone here?

It was a very clear yes.

They asked how many people were here. It
was a very clear seven.

Now, you hear footsteps up on the roof,
right?

I know no one's up there, ever.

I'm the only person who has access to
that part of the building.

Interesting. You said these dead people
are trapped, right?

I mean, how did you see it? What did it
look like?

Well, I had a sketch done of what I saw.

Kind of strange.

Let's take a look at them.

Whoa. Wow.

What's going on here?

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure
out. There's like two different things

going on. And it looks like people are
trapped in a glass cave.

So what's the deal with the people in
the box?

These men had been burned.

They are very much stuck in their death
state.

They're in a lot of pain.

The way I saw them die was very
frightening.

I felt like the earth was falling away
from me, but it got weirder because all

saw underneath me was sky.

And then I looked down at the floor and
I saw these people that, to me, looked

burned. So I was disturbed by that.

Well, a couple of things you said made
me think of a story I came across during

my investigation.

Now, back in the silent movie era...

There were obviously no special effects,
right? If you wanted to shoot plane

scenes, you needed to use real planes,
like in this old movie.

So the reason I'm bringing this up, in
1920, about a mile down the street from

here, a film called The Skyway Man was
shooting its final scene. So the movie

script called for a plane crash.

And Ariel Stumpman, by the name of Orma
Locklear, was performing what they

called the suicide dive.

In the dead of the night, Locklear and
his partner went up into the plane and

they put into a tailspin with flash
shooting out the back. So it looks like

being shot.

But things went horribly wrong.

And these guys plummeted right into the
ground and burst into flames, killing

them both.

The thing about this movie is they kept
the whole thing in. Oh, God. And the

film is nowhere to be found.

It's lost to time. Wow.

So what else?

So I encounter two different people who
were murdered.

I feel like it was after the 1950s, but
it was so fresh.

I felt like it could have happened,
like, yesterday.

The first murder was a dead male.

Ooh, okay. I feel like somebody got shot
here.

I would think they worked here. I feel
like there's two men involved.

and I kept seeing the letter R for some
reason.

Then I saw a second murder.

This was a female.

She was probably between the ages of 17
and 22, and I felt like she

used to live up here on the second
floor.

My heart was absolutely pounding, and I
felt like she had been horribly

assaulted.

I could feel her pain in her chest, the
pain in her chest.

was potentially what caused her death.

I did see blood on the walls.

I was hearing people yelling.

Possibly the living up here would feel
sick.

She does cry a lot.

Maybe people hearing her crying.

And she was also trying to touch people.

You guys didn't mention feeling sick,
but almost everyone here told me they

uneasy up on the second floor.

Didn't you tell me about feeling a
presence up in that hallway?

In the hallway, yeah, and I've felt,
like, not particularly welcomed up

Like, it's someone else's space that
they don't really want me in, so I feel

like if I just tell them what I'm doing
in there and I'm in and out quickly,

that it doesn't disturb them.

Amy, Daniel's projection is sterile.
When I interviewed him, he told me that

when he was in the projection room up
there, something grabbed his ass.

That's where the dead lady, she likes it
in there. That's where she stays. She

feels safe in there.

So, Amy, the two murders you described
sound an awful lot like a homicide that

actually took place right here in the
theater.

It involves a former owner of the place
and two of his employees.

In 1997, the theater was owned by a man
named Lawrence Austin.

I actually got a photo of him.

Now, Austin was 75 years old and was
having a tumultuous affair.

with the man 41 years younger than him,
a 34 -year -old guy named James Van

Sickle. Van Sickle was the projectionist
at the silent theater.

Austin made Van Sickle the sole
beneficiary of his will.

Not the smartest idea, if you ask me. On
January 17, 1997, an audience member

came out of the theater, walked into the
lobby, pulled out a gun, demanded

Austin give him the cash from the
register, and then he shot him three

once in the face and twice in the chest.

Now, he also shot a 19 -year -old
employee named Mary Giles twice in the

Now, Austin didn't make it. Cops got
here pretty quick, and they rushed Mary

the hospital. Miraculously, though, she
survived.

Two months later, they finally tracked
down the murder and got a full

confession.

Now, you said the letter R, right, came
to mind?

Mm. The gunman was a teenage boy named
Christian Rodriguez.

Turns out Van Sickle hired this kid to
kill Austin.

Don't forget now, he made him the
beneficiary of this place.

So get this, he hires Rodriguez to kill
Austin for 25 grand.

Then he says, I'll give you another five
grand if you kill the girl so it looks

like a robber.

So basically, Mary wound up being a
sacrificial lamb.

Rodriguez was found guilty of murder and
sentenced to life in prison.

Ben Sickle was found guilty of first
-degree murder and also got life without

possibility of parole.

Both are alive today and sitting in
prison.

Oh, okay.

All these people are being trapped by
one dead guy.

He's a bit of a problem.

He had, like, red skin, and, like, he
looked, like, in snake eyes.

He was an owner when he was alive.

He very, very much still is.

That's why he's controlling everybody
and claims to be taking care of

everything. But then when I started
talking to him, asking him direct

about his name and stuff, he got real
shady.

He goes, I think my name is John, or
maybe it's Jim.

I think I died in the 60s.

I don't think I'm the only one at the
table that knows who this is.

1940, a silent film buff named John
Hampton.

John? Yeah.

Moved here from Oklahoma City with his
wife, Dorothy.

In February of 1942, they finally opened
this place, and it was originally named

the Old Time Movie Theater.

It was a huge success. I mean, they had
A -list movie stars that would come here

to watch films.

John and Dorothy were hard workers. I
mean, they did everything themselves,

including cleaning the bathrooms.

concessions, selling tickets. They did
everything themselves. It was just the

two of them.

Take a look at this photo of John Hanton
at the grand

opening.

Is this possible, this photo here, could
be the guy you ran into?

I had a sketch done of what I saw.

You guys take a look. You tell me what
you think.

It's close enough to what you got on
him.

Yes, similar.

So, Amy, after looking at the photo, I
mean, you think it's probably John you

ran into?

Mm -hmm. Yeah.

You know, everything I heard about the
guy, he seemed like a decent person,

nice guy, and loved what he did, but now
he's trapping dead people.

I think that he potentially had a very,
very dark side that he kept very well

hidden. But now he's collecting people
in debt because he's able to without

killing anybody.

I feel like she's onto something for
sure.

Once you said he was a collector, I
really, I kind of got chills. I think

he's the biggest issue here right now.

I don't know about this collecting
bodies and putting them in a box.

Thing at all. I don't know like I can't
have a good feeling here now Unless you

drop dead then you You're gonna put you
in a box

Daniel

true What you got going on here is like
that scary movie you might show in the

theater. Unfortunately, this is real
life, so to see what, if anything, you

do about it, I'm going to turn it over
to Amy.

What I would like to do for the dead
would be to have my team come here.

They're kind of a mixed bag of people.

Black comedians, pagans, Satanists, you
know, the whole nine.

And what I would like them to do would
be to initially remove all of the dead

that are here, which also means, you
know, dealing with John.

Finally, they need to do a really major
cleansing

on this place to specifically remove the
residual energy.

So it would be more like a reset.

So once the team clears this place out,
it will be safe for everyone. Yes.

I want whoever is here, everyone, to be
put at ease

and to find peace.

So hopefully you'll take Amy's advice.

Yeah, for sure.

People being trapped here, that's not
something that I would ever want. And I

think it's important.

I really hope Daniel follows my advice
and works with my team to remove John

the dead he's trapping inside the
theater.

I believe once the place has been
cleared out, everyone can enjoy this

landmark safely for many years to come.