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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,540 --> 00:00:12,540 God, I don't feel good. I can't breathe. 2 00:00:13,820 --> 00:00:16,379 So it almost feels like somebody is dying here. 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,200 My mom has had some health issues. 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,280 This has been a daily struggle for me. 5 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:27,360 This woman seeing a lot of dead people. 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,380 Shortly after this, there were a series of murdered victims who began to appear. 7 00:00:33,740 --> 00:00:38,100 The living woman was seeing these hands come up from the end of the bed. I 8 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:39,880 thought I was going to die. 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,500 There's a lot of fear and anxiety here. 10 00:00:48,140 --> 00:00:50,380 Oh, the dark is getting darker. 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,220 My name is Amy Allen. 12 00:00:52,860 --> 00:00:54,160 I see dead people. 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,980 There is a skinwalker here. 14 00:00:56,420 --> 00:00:58,380 I speak to dead people. 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,060 And they speak to me. 16 00:01:00,780 --> 00:01:02,540 He wants to collect the women. 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,800 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 18 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:09,420 They're blocking the life out of these people. 19 00:01:10,300 --> 00:01:11,580 I rely on my partner. 20 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:15,040 I'm Steve DeShave. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,580 This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. And I know every person, 22 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:21,120 every house has secrets. 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,940 It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate 24 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:26,940 during an investigation. 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,460 Until the very end. 26 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:29,940 Is that what I think it is? 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,020 Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I told you he was trying to 28 00:01:34,020 --> 00:01:35,020 kill me. 29 00:01:35,380 --> 00:01:39,660 We're time to get out. You have a dead person inside you. 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,180 I'm in Lake Elsinore, California. It's about an hour south of Los Angeles. 31 00:01:58,420 --> 00:02:01,060 I got a call from a 22 -year -old guy named Austin. 32 00:02:01,260 --> 00:02:05,660 He says three generations of family members live in the house, and they're 33 00:02:05,660 --> 00:02:06,660 terrified. 34 00:02:10,419 --> 00:02:17,260 He didn't sound too good, and he told me we're his 35 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:18,420 very last hope. 36 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,480 God, I don't feel good. 37 00:02:33,140 --> 00:02:34,340 I can't breathe. 38 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,860 I feel like I'm going to vomit. 39 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,280 So it almost feels like somebody is dying here. 40 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:45,000 I literally feel like I'm getting beat up right now. 41 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,360 It's not good. 42 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,280 It really is awful. 43 00:02:56,220 --> 00:02:59,160 So, Austin, just driving through the neighborhood and... Going up to this 44 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,760 beautiful home and looking around, it's like, what could possibly be wrong here? 45 00:03:03,020 --> 00:03:04,660 Why'd you call us in? What's going on in this place? 46 00:03:05,540 --> 00:03:07,880 We do not love the way that we feel here. 47 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:10,800 We feel like we're being tortured by the paranormal. 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,000 Let's start with the basics. Who all lives in the house? 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,680 There's me, my grandma, my sister, and my mom. 50 00:03:19,980 --> 00:03:20,980 How old's your sister? 51 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,120 My sister's 13. 52 00:03:22,580 --> 00:03:25,720 It's four of you here. It's a huge house. Why'd you pick a house this big? 53 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Well, when we moved in, there were more of us. My grandpa was still alive. 54 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,940 Here's a picture of him. 55 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,440 That's him and my grandma. 56 00:03:37,060 --> 00:03:39,720 If you don't mind me asking, how did your grandfather pass? What happened? 57 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,020 He died of a stroke, but he also had Alzheimer's. 58 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Oof. Yeah, he passed in the home. 59 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:48,060 He passed in the house? 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,240 In the house, yeah. 61 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,220 So how old was he? 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,160 He was 69. 63 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:54,540 So he was young. 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,730 Yeah. He was pretty young to be going through that at his age. 65 00:03:59,230 --> 00:04:02,730 Question for you, then. I mean, I hate to bring it up, but do you think he's 66 00:04:02,730 --> 00:04:03,709 here? 67 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:06,390 Yeah, I think he's here to help us and to protect us. 68 00:04:06,590 --> 00:04:09,210 Okay. Do you think his death started the activity? 69 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:16,510 No. Any idea what might have started it? My mom was in an accident about a year 70 00:04:16,510 --> 00:04:21,690 ago. She was turning on a blind corner, and another car was coming, and a 71 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:24,870 motorcyclist was trying to cut around that car at that very same time. 72 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:31,400 and he had hit the front end, went flying, and he lost his life. 73 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,480 How's your mom holding up? 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,300 It's hard. She definitely feels like, if only I, you know, could have left 15 75 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:43,860 minutes later, you know, like, even though he was at fault, she carries that 76 00:04:43,860 --> 00:04:46,400 weight, and she relived that experience a lot. 77 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:51,820 All right, so, Austin, do me a favor and give me a list of what you guys are 78 00:04:51,820 --> 00:04:52,619 going through here. 79 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:53,620 We're feeling watched. 80 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:55,300 We're hearing voices. 81 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,940 We're seeing apparitions and shadow figures. 82 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,600 And then we've been physically touched. 83 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,260 My mom has had some health issues, and her doctors can't explain any of it. 84 00:05:07,380 --> 00:05:11,540 Okay. So part of me wonders if the paranormal has something to do with 85 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:12,960 they're messing with her body internally. 86 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:16,360 It's got to be tough dealing with it. It is really tough. 87 00:05:16,580 --> 00:05:19,920 I want my sister to feel like she can go to bed at night and feel safe, and I 88 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,020 want the same thing for my mom and my grandma and myself. 89 00:05:26,810 --> 00:05:29,950 Oh, lord, lordy, lord, it got loud out here. Okay. 90 00:05:31,030 --> 00:05:35,330 I'm getting some really bad residual energy from that hill, and it's coming 91 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:39,930 right into the house. I feel like it's a vortex for the dead being created. 92 00:05:40,330 --> 00:05:45,890 If you're kind of sensitive, and then you move here, your abilities might get 93 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:48,170 amplified because of this energy. 94 00:05:48,530 --> 00:05:51,150 And obviously, I think that would, you know... 95 00:05:52,140 --> 00:05:56,720 cause a lot of anxiety for somebody who hasn't had all of this before. 96 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,380 So what's going on in here? 97 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,700 Well, I've seen the apparition of a little girl in here. 98 00:06:11,020 --> 00:06:14,220 Describe to me what she looks like. Well, she was about this big. 99 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,560 She had pigtails. She was wearing a dress. 100 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:19,140 At first, I thought my sister was running up the stairs. 101 00:06:19,630 --> 00:06:23,490 Did you ever see her again? No, I haven't seen her again, but I have felt 102 00:06:23,490 --> 00:06:28,550 energy. She had a little bit of this playful, mischievous type of energy, and 103 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:30,370 sometimes I will feel that around the house. 104 00:06:31,250 --> 00:06:32,250 All right, so what else? 105 00:06:32,530 --> 00:06:34,830 I see shadow figures all around the house. 106 00:06:35,130 --> 00:06:39,670 Okay, so try to describe it for me. The body is pretty slender, but it's 107 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:40,670 completely black. 108 00:06:41,010 --> 00:06:44,730 No features of eyes or anything like that? No features. There's no face. It's 109 00:06:44,730 --> 00:06:45,730 just black. 110 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:54,270 I'm seeing these two weird shadow -looking things. 111 00:06:54,850 --> 00:06:56,870 One's really tall and one's short. 112 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:59,170 The little one has a skeleton body. 113 00:06:59,390 --> 00:07:02,330 The tall one throws them on his shoulders all the time. 114 00:07:03,150 --> 00:07:06,150 I think they're both shapeshifting tricksters. 115 00:07:07,470 --> 00:07:08,870 Do you know what these things want? 116 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:15,850 From what I saw, making people physically ill and terrifying them, 117 00:07:15,850 --> 00:07:16,850 kind of PTSD. 118 00:07:17,230 --> 00:07:19,050 And, you know, so obviously... 119 00:07:19,950 --> 00:07:21,050 To us, it's malicious. 120 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:24,570 To them, they're having fun because they have nothing else to do. 121 00:07:29,870 --> 00:07:31,170 Hey, what's going on in here? 122 00:07:31,610 --> 00:07:32,750 My bed will shake. 123 00:07:33,030 --> 00:07:36,650 So show me how that happens. How's it feel? It literally feels like somebody's 124 00:07:36,650 --> 00:07:38,030 just going like this. 125 00:07:38,410 --> 00:07:39,910 It'll just shake like this. 126 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:41,830 And nothing else is moving around? 127 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:43,430 Nothing else in the room at all. 128 00:07:43,770 --> 00:07:47,550 When it happens, I've jumped up, I've looked under the bed, there's nothing 129 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:52,070 there, there's no fan running, the AC is off, and nobody's opening up the garage 130 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:53,070 door downstairs. 131 00:07:53,170 --> 00:07:55,350 I've tried to debunk it, but I can't. 132 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:58,050 Okay, does it feel like a human being? 133 00:07:58,270 --> 00:08:00,790 It feels like somebody's shaking the bed. 134 00:08:01,070 --> 00:08:02,070 All right, so what else? 135 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:06,810 Something will pinch my leg down here, and it feels like nails, like somebody 136 00:08:06,810 --> 00:08:09,390 just pinching me with their nails. It doesn't leave a mark. 137 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,580 It almost feels like a nerve pain, but I only experience it when I'm here. 138 00:08:14,900 --> 00:08:16,480 You sure you're not getting bit by something? 139 00:08:16,860 --> 00:08:18,220 Nope, nothing in the bed. 140 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,560 You're positive about that? Positive, no bugs, washed my sheets. 141 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:24,460 Anything else going on? 142 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:28,140 When I do sleep, I get really bad nightmares. 143 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:34,400 I've had a nightmare where I was in this house, and I was literally being chased 144 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,760 around the house by a demon, and this thing was chasing me through hell. 145 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,240 What do you think that's all about? 146 00:08:39,659 --> 00:08:44,920 I think it's to terrify me. I think it's to instill me with a sense of fear. 147 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:47,160 These kind of dreams, they stay with you. 148 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,060 Shapeshifter trickster things. 149 00:08:53,060 --> 00:08:55,400 Up on the ceiling and dropping down. 150 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 This thing is like right on them. 151 00:08:59,820 --> 00:09:03,980 Or, you know, at the end of the bed or on the ceiling. Like it's interacting, 152 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,280 definitely. 153 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Everybody. 154 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,720 seems to be waking up from nightmares. 155 00:09:13,940 --> 00:09:18,420 One of them is in a great deal of some kind of physical pain. 156 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:19,680 They're very sick. 157 00:09:20,860 --> 00:09:24,680 As far as the living are concerned, I don't think it's good. They're dying or 158 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:25,680 something. 159 00:09:49,390 --> 00:09:51,570 So, Milena, I was just talking to Austin. 160 00:09:52,090 --> 00:09:56,190 He feels that the whole family's in danger from the paranormal here. Do you 161 00:09:56,190 --> 00:09:58,110 agree with it? I do. You do? Okay. 162 00:09:58,390 --> 00:10:00,110 There's been quite a lot of activity. 163 00:10:00,490 --> 00:10:03,450 I know your father, Pev, in the house. My condolences. 164 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:05,310 Thank you. 165 00:10:05,810 --> 00:10:07,630 Austin seems to think that he's here. 166 00:10:08,370 --> 00:10:13,070 Yeah. Two days before he passed, I had a really terrifying dream. 167 00:10:13,330 --> 00:10:18,250 About him? About him. I saw what he looked like. 168 00:10:20,530 --> 00:10:21,530 After he passed. 169 00:10:23,030 --> 00:10:24,530 And it came true. 170 00:10:24,850 --> 00:10:28,850 I don't want to remember him like that because he was my dad. 171 00:10:29,870 --> 00:10:34,150 Austin, he seems to think that stuff got worse after your car accident. 172 00:10:34,570 --> 00:10:40,410 It did. I feel like he somehow attached to me because 173 00:10:40,410 --> 00:10:46,450 when I think about the accident scene, I see it from a bird's eye view. 174 00:10:46,770 --> 00:10:48,090 It sounds like you may have abilities. 175 00:10:48,490 --> 00:10:49,610 I probably do. 176 00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:56,550 It makes sense that because I have some sensitivity that he would 177 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:58,570 find me. 178 00:10:58,950 --> 00:10:59,950 Ah, okay. 179 00:11:00,350 --> 00:11:02,030 And stick with me. 180 00:11:03,010 --> 00:11:06,170 Okay, so if you can, do me a favor and tell me about the experiences you're 181 00:11:06,170 --> 00:11:08,330 having. I have seen shadow figures. 182 00:11:08,910 --> 00:11:09,990 Where have you seen them? 183 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:14,230 I've seen them peeking out around from the dining room. 184 00:11:15,390 --> 00:11:19,610 I've seen them on our catwalk and also in my bedroom. 185 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:25,160 Did they look same all the time or did they differ? The one that I saw peeking 186 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,420 around the corner was full human -shaped. 187 00:11:28,780 --> 00:11:32,240 The one in my room, it was almost like a triangle. 188 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:35,980 Okay. And it just went like that, but it was moving. It was moving. 189 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,200 What else was going on? 190 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:44,420 Well, I was in bed, and that's when I heard in my ear, look, I got to be 191 00:11:44,420 --> 00:11:45,419 with you. 192 00:11:45,420 --> 00:11:48,420 It was a male voice, and it was... 193 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:50,560 Almost like I was overhearing a conversation. 194 00:11:51,060 --> 00:11:52,060 Were you in bed alone? 195 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,600 No, my boyfriend was in bed, but he was asleep next to me. I mean, do you think 196 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,800 it came from a TV maybe? 197 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,760 No, I opened my eyes to find out, and there was nothing there. 198 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,380 What else was going on? 199 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:08,780 One night, I was asleep, and my bed was punched very hard and right in between 200 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:09,780 my feet. 201 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,600 Oh, okay. 202 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Was your boyfriend in bed with you? No, no. 203 00:12:15,460 --> 00:12:21,190 So... Between losing your father, the accident, the paranormal here, you got a 204 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:22,390 lot going on. A lot. 205 00:12:22,890 --> 00:12:25,730 And it seems to have gotten worse lately. 206 00:12:26,070 --> 00:12:28,070 Austin was telling me about your health problems. 207 00:12:28,390 --> 00:12:30,850 So do you believe that your health issues are paranormal? 208 00:12:31,270 --> 00:12:35,070 I do. And it's like, this has been a daily struggle for me. 209 00:12:35,410 --> 00:12:37,350 I need to get back to a normal life. 210 00:12:37,710 --> 00:12:39,530 Well, we're going to do our best. I promise you that. 211 00:12:39,790 --> 00:12:40,790 Thank you. 212 00:12:44,650 --> 00:12:50,430 The energy that's coming from that mountain area or hill definitely causes 213 00:12:50,430 --> 00:12:53,010 issues for sensitives in this location. 214 00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:56,270 And it definitely heightens their abilities. 215 00:12:56,770 --> 00:13:01,390 And I think a living woman here is drawing the dead inside. 216 00:13:05,270 --> 00:13:10,770 I think this woman, I think seeing a lot of dead people, they feel your energy 217 00:13:10,770 --> 00:13:13,450 and they think you're the one who can actually help them. 218 00:13:14,110 --> 00:13:15,069 They'll stay. 219 00:13:15,070 --> 00:13:22,050 So I think this person might have just opened spontaneously and not able to 220 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:24,230 it down at all, and it's just overwhelming. 221 00:13:27,230 --> 00:13:29,670 I feel physical pain. 222 00:13:29,930 --> 00:13:32,370 She's having, like, heart issues or something. 223 00:13:32,810 --> 00:13:34,390 Massive, massive anxiety. 224 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:41,170 She's just worn down and just does not know how to make a stop. 225 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,400 So, Judy, I just want to extend my condolences. I understand your husband 226 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,400 in the house. Yes. 227 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,260 Your grandson Austin seems to think that he's here. 228 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,940 How do you feel about that? Well, he was happy here, so maybe he comes and 229 00:14:02,940 --> 00:14:04,460 visits. I don't know. Okay. 230 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,280 It's got to be tough seeing what your family's going through. 231 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,220 I see how it's affecting them and how it affects the family. 232 00:14:12,660 --> 00:14:17,520 Sometimes for no reason, somebody just kind of gets really annoyed. I heard. 233 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,740 that's not what... 234 00:14:19,220 --> 00:14:20,680 We're a very loving family. 235 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,180 That's got to really be upsetting for you. Yeah, especially, you know, my 236 00:14:24,180 --> 00:14:29,700 daughter's had so many medical problems, and that has worried me more than I let 237 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:30,700 her know. 238 00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:31,900 It's not normal. 239 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,760 What about yourself? Not what anybody else is going through, but you. 240 00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:38,860 What have you experienced, if anything? 241 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,260 Well, after my husband passed, I went to bed one night, and I 242 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:48,200 hear something. 243 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,160 come in from the bathroom, walk over, and then lay down. 244 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,320 So you weren't dreaming or anything? No, I hadn't gone to sleep yet. And I, you 245 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,820 know, I was like, well, it's either my husband coming back to see me 246 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:09,280 or something else. But I just didn't move. I just laid there and went to 247 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:11,900 Hopefully we'll be able to figure out what the hell's going on here. 248 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,160 I hope you can. 249 00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:16,380 Well, that's weird. 250 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,660 I just heard, lock that door. 251 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,000 Weird. Weird. 252 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,020 It was loud, like, lock that door. 253 00:15:35,140 --> 00:15:36,480 Do you know who's saying this? 254 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,040 The tricksters. 255 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,880 They're here, under the bed all the time. It's under the bed, and it's 256 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,000 and it's moving. 257 00:15:45,660 --> 00:15:49,660 I'm crawling up, crawling up. I'm under the bed, at the end of the bed, crawling 258 00:15:49,660 --> 00:15:50,660 up, seeing hands. 259 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,080 Some kind of hand. 260 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,340 Oh God, oh God. Not again. Oh God. 261 00:16:03,860 --> 00:16:10,860 I made my usual calls before 262 00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:15,440 I got to town and just heard back from a local genealogist. She says the Native 263 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,300 American tribe that lived here has a horrifying story that I'm definitely 264 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:20,300 to want to know about. 265 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,340 So, Marge, I appreciate you coming out and helping me with this case. 266 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,700 A lot of my investigations involve Native American stories. 267 00:16:31,940 --> 00:16:33,820 Now, what's so special about this one? 268 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:39,900 Well, in this Lake Elsinore area, it was inhabited by a tribe of Native American 269 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:44,940 Indians called the Licinos, who lived here for over 10 ,000 years before the 270 00:16:44,940 --> 00:16:46,840 arrival of the European settlers. 271 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,680 And what else can you tell me about them? 272 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,800 In 1798, the Spanish missionaries came and established a settlement nearby. 273 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,360 They took over the land and they converted as many people of the Luceno 274 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,760 Catholicism as they could. 275 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,180 So I know from history that things didn't go well for the Native Americans 276 00:17:05,180 --> 00:17:07,319 the settlers came in. So how did it go for them? 277 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:13,240 The Lucenos got sick from many of the European diseases, smallpox, measles, 278 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,980 influenza. Their culture was on the brink of destruction and many of them 279 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:19,960 out. Did they ever recover from this? 280 00:17:20,329 --> 00:17:23,569 Unfortunately, though, things got much worse for the Lucinos. 281 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:28,710 In 1846, the Mexican -American War began, which led to one of the bloodiest 282 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:32,630 events in the region's history, the Temecula Canyon Massacre. 283 00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:34,490 Well, it sounds pretty bad. What the hell happened? 284 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:40,600 In January 1847, a Mexican general thought that the Lucinos were 285 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,520 an attack on his troop, so he ordered them captured. 286 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,320 How'd he wind up doing it? His soldiers lured the Lucinos out of their hiding 287 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,700 spot in a deep canyon and ambushed them. 288 00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:53,300 All right, do we have a number of how many of these people were killed? 289 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,400 The exact death toll remains a mystery, but it is estimated that over 100 290 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,020 Lucinos were killed that day. 291 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,720 I mean, these guys really got the shaft from everybody, it looks like. 292 00:18:04,110 --> 00:18:05,110 Exactly. 293 00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:09,930 I'm seeing those shape -shifting tricksters again. 294 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:14,450 I was like asking my guides, I'm like, well, is this Native American? 295 00:18:14,650 --> 00:18:16,110 They're like, no, no, no, no, no. 296 00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:21,290 Do you know if it might change shapes to other people? Maybe different people 297 00:18:21,290 --> 00:18:22,290 are saying different things. 298 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:29,380 In here, I know that one person saw it look... with, like, kind of a bigger 299 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:34,380 head. And then in the other room, when it was coming down the bathroom towards 300 00:18:34,380 --> 00:18:36,000 that person, it looked different. 301 00:18:41,460 --> 00:18:45,600 I just got a call from a friend of mine who writes crime books. Says she dug up 302 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,800 some history about an outlaw named Jim Henry. 303 00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:54,060 Turns out he terrorized this area in the 1860s, but ended up going down in a 304 00:18:54,060 --> 00:18:55,060 hail of bullets. 305 00:19:00,430 --> 00:19:03,650 Well, Elaine, it's good to see you again. So the story sounds like 306 00:19:03,650 --> 00:19:05,550 of a Western. What do we know about this outlaw? 307 00:19:05,850 --> 00:19:11,110 Jim Henry was a common crook that was in and out of prison for many, many years 308 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:13,350 before he came to this area. 309 00:19:13,790 --> 00:19:15,050 And where does it go from there? 310 00:19:15,390 --> 00:19:20,030 Well, in early 1864, Jim meets a man named John Mason. 311 00:19:20,270 --> 00:19:25,610 They are both Confederate supporters, and they form the Mason -Henry gang. And 312 00:19:25,610 --> 00:19:29,550 they become these guerrilla fighters, almost like small -time terrorists. 313 00:19:30,030 --> 00:19:31,190 All right, so what happens? 314 00:19:31,690 --> 00:19:37,110 Well, on November 10th of 1864, after Lincoln's re -election, they began 315 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:41,570 brutally murdering all of the union supporters that they could find. In 316 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:42,910 they killed 16 people. 317 00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:47,770 A reward is now posted for their arrest of $1 ,500 each. 318 00:19:48,110 --> 00:19:50,970 Okay. And this is actually the notice that's placed. 319 00:19:51,170 --> 00:19:55,470 So $1 ,500 was a lot of money back then. Does it help them get caught? 320 00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:59,210 Yes. Jim Henry set up a camp in a wilderness area. 321 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:00,920 in the San Jacinto Canyon. 322 00:20:01,180 --> 00:20:03,880 It's about 1 .5 miles from your client's house. 323 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:05,100 Okay, so that's close. 324 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Very close. 325 00:20:06,340 --> 00:20:12,860 Well, in September of 1865, Jim sends John Rogers, one of his henchmen, into 326 00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:17,500 Bernardino to get some horseshoe nails. But he cannot resist stopping in a 327 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:22,040 saloon for a drink, and he stops in Whiskey Point. Here is a photo of the 328 00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:27,540 Once Rogers started drinking, he could not stop. 329 00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:31,580 And then he got drunk, and then he started bragging about his connection to 330 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:32,580 Mason Henry gang. 331 00:20:32,740 --> 00:20:33,900 Okay, so he's got a big mouth. 332 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,580 Right. And then union men in the bar take note, and they run and they get the 333 00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:41,080 sheriff. His name is Benjamin Matthews. 334 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,940 And he gathers up a posse, and he forces Rogers to take them to the gang's camp. 335 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,840 All right, so we got the sheriff here and a posse going out for these guys. 336 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,560 happened? Well, the posse approaches at sunrise. 337 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Okay. And Jim Henry hears their footsteps, fires off three shots. 338 00:20:57,340 --> 00:21:02,040 But ultimately, he dies in a hail of gunfire, sustaining 57 wounds. 339 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,820 Okay, so they lit him up good. 340 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,360 Henry's body was taken into town, photographed, and displayed like a 341 00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:11,820 Okay, so they wanted to send a message to everybody. 342 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:13,400 This is what happens when you mess around. 343 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:16,640 Yeah. He got his just desserts at the end, that's for sure. 344 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,600 I'm seeing one dead male and his horse. 345 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:25,500 This is like old Western times. 346 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,720 His name is Joseph. 347 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:30,320 Do you get anything else on this man? 348 00:21:30,540 --> 00:21:36,260 He was probably like late 20s, early 30s, kind of scruffy. 349 00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:41,500 Is this somebody that the looking here would have experiences with? He might 350 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:44,480 have been somebody who showed up to get moved on because he really wants to get 351 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,419 moved on. 352 00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:46,420 I don't like him. 353 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,360 For more information about the show, and if you need us to investigate 354 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,900 unexplained activity in your home, please visit TravelChannel .com slash 355 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:02,639 Dead Files. 356 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,120 Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 357 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:18,460 So far, I've got a family being terrorized by bizarre experiences on a 358 00:22:18,460 --> 00:22:20,420 near the Temecula Canyon massacre. 359 00:22:20,910 --> 00:22:24,730 where over 100 Native Americans were murdered. But I want to see if there's 360 00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:25,730 anything else. 361 00:22:26,530 --> 00:22:30,110 Searching through old records, I come across several disturbing articles about 362 00:22:30,110 --> 00:22:32,050 serial killer who was active in this area. 363 00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:36,990 So I reached out to a retired cop who knew all about this case. 364 00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:41,130 She says when I hear about what this lunatic did, I'm going to be really 365 00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:42,130 off. 366 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:49,310 Well, it's good to see you again, Cheryl. 367 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,820 Appreciate you helping me out. 368 00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:55,580 Before we get into what this did, what do we know about it? So here's what we 369 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:58,400 know. William Suff was born in 1950. 370 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,560 Okay. Around 16, his dad abandoned the family and left mom. 371 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:06,740 Mom remarried a guy who wound up being verbally abusive to the children. 372 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,060 So, listen, I got abused verbally as a child. I never became a serial killer. 373 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:14,440 What's this guy's problem? What happened to him next? 374 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:17,800 Well, in 1969, he winds up marrying a 16 -year -old girl. 375 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:19,420 They have two children. 376 00:23:19,790 --> 00:23:24,210 September 25th, 1973, they find the two -month -old daughter, Dijanae, dead on 377 00:23:24,210 --> 00:23:25,210 the bathroom floor. 378 00:23:25,550 --> 00:23:31,030 Let's start with the kid. This child had 13 broken ribs, a bite wound to the 379 00:23:31,030 --> 00:23:35,830 abdomen, fractured shoulder, a cigarette burn on the sole of her foot, and the 380 00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:39,590 cause of death was ultimately determined to be massive hemorrhaging from a 381 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:40,449 ruptured liver. 382 00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:44,010 And Self wanted to blame all of this on his four -year -old son. 383 00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:47,960 All right, so the cops didn't buy that story, I hope. No, of course not. The 384 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,880 officers didn't buy that. As a matter of fact, he and his wife were both 385 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,520 arrested and charged in the murder of two -month -old Dijon A. And here's a 386 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,520 of his booking photo. 387 00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:57,500 All right, so this happened in Texas. 388 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,240 Did this guy plead out, go to trial? What happened? 389 00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:04,120 What ultimately happened is that he was convicted by a jury. He was sentenced to 390 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,140 70 years in prison. 391 00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:11,220 And then Suff only served 10 of those 70 years and was later paroled in 1984. 392 00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:16,140 All right, so this guy gets out after 10 years for killing a two -month -old. 393 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,700 And it's some bull. I mean, what happened to him after that? 394 00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:22,820 Well, he relocates to Lake Elsinore where he finds employment in a general 395 00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:27,220 store. Okay. There he meets this young girl named Cheryl. She's 17 years old, 396 00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:28,380 suffers 39. 397 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,540 He charms her, and after a brief courtship, they wind up getting married. 398 00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:36,760 And the couple had a daughter named Bridget. The police are ultimately 399 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,140 the home, and they find three -month -old Bridget, who's now... 400 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,160 suffering brain damage as a result of a massive beating. 401 00:24:43,420 --> 00:24:45,460 You've got to be kidding me. So he does it again? 402 00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:46,660 He does it again. 403 00:24:46,940 --> 00:24:48,960 Oddly, neither parent was charged. 404 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,760 That's insane. 405 00:24:51,140 --> 00:24:54,180 And I know it becomes serial killer at some point. When did that start? 406 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:57,920 Shortly after this, there are a series of murdered victims who begin to appear. 407 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,780 Okay. Here's a map that shows the area in Lake Elsinore where many of them were 408 00:25:02,780 --> 00:25:06,100 found. And what's significant about this is that they weren't buried. They were 409 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:08,360 just dumped out in the open. Many of the bodies were nude. 410 00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:12,950 We also know some of the victims were raped before being stabbed and 411 00:25:13,230 --> 00:25:16,890 So this is a lot of bodies here. I mean, what's the proximity as far as my 412 00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:17,890 client's property? 413 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:23,310 Now, six of the 12 for whom he had been convicted were found within a three 414 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:27,830 -mile radius of your client's home. Okay. Two of those bodies were found 415 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:29,750 than 4 ,000 feet from your client's home. 416 00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:33,110 All right, so I know they wound up catching this sick, but I mean, how'd 417 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:37,740 happen? So in January 1992, Seth is stopped by police officers when he makes 418 00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:43,700 illegal U -turn. They open up the van, and inside they find handcuffs, a 419 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:48,900 patrol cap, and a sleeping bag with fibers that match the fibers that were 420 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:50,040 on some of the victims. 421 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:51,880 Okay, so now we got evidence. 422 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:57,460 Did he go to trial? Yes. In June 1995, a Riverside County jury found Seth guilty 423 00:25:57,460 --> 00:26:01,720 of killing 12 women. However, the police believe he killed at least 22 other 424 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,720 women. 425 00:26:03,850 --> 00:26:07,330 He still sits on death row at the age of 70. 426 00:26:07,630 --> 00:26:13,070 Okay, so had this guy never gotten out in Texas for a murder of a two -month 427 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:15,830 -old, none of these other women would be dead right now. We wouldn't be here 428 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:16,830 having this discussion. 429 00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:25,090 I am like getting the image of a little girl running down the stairs and like 430 00:26:25,090 --> 00:26:26,710 screaming and crying. 431 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,460 You know, there's a lot of fear and anxiety here. Like, literally could feel 432 00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:34,460 running through. 433 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:43,240 The living are getting up, freaking out from whatever the f*** happened, which 434 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,100 is them being attacked and panicking and running down screaming. 435 00:26:56,590 --> 00:27:01,890 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, but one of the tricksters 436 00:27:01,890 --> 00:27:03,830 the living has me the most concerned. 437 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:10,950 There was a female laying on the bed, and above her, this 438 00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:14,610 thing is coming out of the ceiling. 439 00:27:15,310 --> 00:27:22,210 Its head is weird. The face is perfectly flat, very long hands, very 440 00:27:22,210 --> 00:27:23,210 long fingers. 441 00:27:26,159 --> 00:27:27,200 Maybe longer hair. 442 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,720 Amy, is this what you saw? 443 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,960 Yes. 444 00:27:55,870 --> 00:27:59,870 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal 445 00:27:59,870 --> 00:28:03,010 findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 446 00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:06,750 Well, guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. She's going to be doing a reveal from 447 00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:10,110 another room so she can concentrate on the dead and your case without any 448 00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:11,110 distractions. 449 00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:13,850 Amy, I'd like you to meet Austin and his mom, Elena. 450 00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:18,490 The three generations that live here in the house, Austin's grandmother, Judy, 451 00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:21,570 and his sister, Delaney, who's 13. 452 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,240 These guys are convinced that whatever's here is torturing them, and that's why 453 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,159 they called us in. 454 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,980 So unless Amy's got some questions for you, she'll describe a walk for us. 455 00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:40,100 As soon as I went into the backyard, I was like, oh, wow. 456 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,360 There is this energy. 457 00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:49,800 It comes from the hill here and just flowing right into your house. 458 00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:54,570 This energy opens people up and heightens their abilities. 459 00:28:56,210 --> 00:29:02,350 So all of a sudden, bam, you know, you have, you know, these abilities and they 460 00:29:02,350 --> 00:29:04,430 are like on. 461 00:29:05,070 --> 00:29:10,930 But if you're a medium, you're going to suddenly notice dead people showing up. 462 00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:14,390 And they're showing up because suddenly your abilities are either heightened or 463 00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:18,690 completely opened. And now the dead are like, boo, right there. 464 00:29:20,140 --> 00:29:26,140 I have for quite a while been able to sense things that aren't there. 465 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,180 Also hear voices, heard them say my name, heard them talking. 466 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,600 I do have a similar thing. 467 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:39,560 I'll also have the same exact thought in my mind as another person that I'm with 468 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,740 a lot of the time. 469 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,180 Yeah, I'm curious what you think about as far as who the sensitives are in the 470 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:46,180 family, obviously. 471 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,080 So, Melaina, I got that you're like a psychic empath slash healer. Wow. 472 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,580 Austin, telepathy. 473 00:29:56,860 --> 00:30:00,660 Now, Amy, you said if someone in the house has abilities, more dead show up. 474 00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:05,280 Melaina believes her father who died in the house is here, and you don't think 475 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,280 he's moved on. 476 00:30:06,380 --> 00:30:07,720 Let me show you a picture. 477 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,020 Really? Yeah, this is him right here with Judy. 478 00:30:11,420 --> 00:30:16,260 I feel him around us, and I feel he kind of comes and goes. 479 00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:18,460 Do you think he's here? 480 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:23,020 Mm -mm. Didn't see him. 481 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,800 That's a good thing. 482 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,840 Yeah. There's one other thing I want you to know about, and that involves 483 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Milena. 484 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,580 A month after her father passed, she had a tragic accident. 485 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,460 It wasn't her fault, but a guy on a motorcycle lost his life. 486 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:44,420 It was very traumatic. He was younger. He was 27. 487 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,580 It was just a really, it's still difficult. 488 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:52,140 Do you think it's possible that he's attached to her? 489 00:30:55,660 --> 00:30:57,740 No, I don't get that at all. 490 00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:05,800 The next thing that I encountered are the biggest problem here. 491 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:10,240 They are two entities who roam through the house together. 492 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,780 One is pretty small. 493 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,420 He has like this little kind of skeleton body, but a male human head. 494 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:26,440 The other one was very, very tall. And at first I thought the 495 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,860 tall one was possibly a shadow being. 496 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:35,680 And I'm like, okay, maybe these are both tricksters. 497 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,640 And then the little one got up on the big one's shoulder. And that's kind of 498 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,640 they travel around. 499 00:31:43,180 --> 00:31:45,640 So, a few things we need to talk about, obviously. 500 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Boston, we'll start with you. Talk about the dark shadows you see in the house. 501 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:55,280 Around the time that we moved in, I started consistently seeing a shadow 502 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,900 that would watch me every time I would climb the stairs at night. 503 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760 We've seen several shadow figures. 504 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,640 It was almost like a triangle or a diagonal or something. 505 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,220 I do feel like there is something here that is diabolical. 506 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,620 Amy, in the past, you've said tricksters are usually Native Americans. 507 00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:19,280 I did find some tragic history about the tribe that lived in this area called 508 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,400 the Los Sueño Indians. 509 00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:22,500 Lived here for like 10 ,000 years. 510 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:28,660 In 1798, the Spanish missionaries established a settlement nearby, but 511 00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:32,540 the natives got sick from smallpox, measles, influenza. 512 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:37,780 Now, things actually got worse for them. In 1846, when the Mexican -American War 513 00:32:37,780 --> 00:32:42,440 started, it led to one of the bloodiest... battles in this region's 514 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,760 was called the Temecula Canyon Massacre. 515 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,540 It's estimated that over 100 Lasleños were killed that day. 516 00:32:48,860 --> 00:32:53,680 Now, is it possible these tricksters are coming from that tribe? 517 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,300 They were not associated with any tribe. 518 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:05,480 The best that I can, you know, come up with would be some type of 519 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,820 unknown, like, interdimensional 520 00:33:11,439 --> 00:33:14,220 Now, you said you were nervous about these pictures. 521 00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:15,420 Why was that? 522 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,640 These things are not good. 523 00:33:20,260 --> 00:33:26,100 I saw one of them coming out of the ceiling. And there's somebody in the bed 524 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,100 sleeping. 525 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:34,300 This thing is like right on them. Everybody seems to be waking up from 526 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:35,300 nightmares. 527 00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:39,760 I had a nightmare where the demon is chasing me around the house. 528 00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:44,560 All of a sudden, all of the lights, all my vision turns completely red. 529 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,160 And the next thing I know, we're in hell. And I'm trying to get away from 530 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,360 thing. Maureen, if you can, do me a favor and tell Amy about the nightmare 531 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,060 had about your dad and how he looked to you. 532 00:33:56,420 --> 00:34:02,500 A couple nights before he passed, I had a dream I went into this abandoned 533 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:03,500 building almost. 534 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,780 He was in a coffin, and he was emaciated and just looked terrifying. 535 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:15,480 It just was torturing me. I don't sleep. I can't. 536 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,000 It's hard to function. 537 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,920 Could these tricksters have created those nightmares? 538 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:22,159 Oh, yeah. 539 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,380 I had a sketch done of what I saw. 540 00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:38,460 The way you described it and the way they drew this was pretty accurate. 541 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040 What? 542 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:50,040 That looks like Delaney. I know, that's what's freaking 543 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,040 me out, too. 544 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:57,480 That makes a lot of sense, because that's the feeling you get at night when 545 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,480 try to go to sleep. 546 00:35:00,270 --> 00:35:04,270 The thing I'm most worried about is what I saw them doing in the bedroom I'm in 547 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:06,350 now. That's Judy's room, the grandma. 548 00:35:06,910 --> 00:35:11,390 The living woman was seeing these hands come up from the end of the bed, and it 549 00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:13,450 was completely overwhelming for her. 550 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:14,950 That is chilling. 551 00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:17,390 That just gave me the chills. Yeah. 552 00:35:17,770 --> 00:35:18,729 I had to tell. 553 00:35:18,730 --> 00:35:23,590 Grandma's not the only one having issues with physical stuff happening to the 554 00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:27,010 bedroom. My bed shakes on a... 555 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,840 nightly basis. 556 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,840 You had something happen to you in the bed too, right? Oh yeah, several times. 557 00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:37,580 My bed got punched like as hard as someone could punch it right in between 558 00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:41,760 feet. It feels like somebody's nudging the bed, like wig up. 559 00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:48,040 Wait, do you get pinched? Yeah. At night, my leg, it's like fingernails. 560 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,400 like a nerve pain. It's like something just... The stuff you just heard, is 561 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,000 some of it or all of it from these tricksters? 562 00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:59,090 I believe, you know, like 98%, yeah. 563 00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:08,350 The other stuff that I got was the ability for them to make the living 564 00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:09,350 here physically ill. 565 00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:14,670 There is one living woman in particular here who's getting really the worst of 566 00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:21,350 it. I was feeling horrible physical pain with this person. She is very ill, 567 00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:23,610 lots of anxiety and heart issues. 568 00:36:24,330 --> 00:36:27,550 And I did feel like she possibly could be dying. 569 00:36:28,610 --> 00:36:35,110 My blood pressure's been out of control, and they can't figure out what's 570 00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:36,110 causing it. 571 00:36:36,430 --> 00:36:42,570 I've had anxiety attacks so bad where I thought I was going to die. 572 00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:49,830 There have been times where she was so bad that she kind of would tell us, 573 00:36:49,830 --> 00:36:53,750 to prepare for something like that. 574 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:59,190 And that was very difficult. And I could tell that for a while it was almost 575 00:36:59,190 --> 00:37:00,670 like she was giving up the battle. 576 00:37:01,470 --> 00:37:08,190 I gave him the pin to my account because I didn't have a will and I put 577 00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:13,210 all the last names on every contact I had in my phone. So if he had to contact 578 00:37:13,210 --> 00:37:14,250 anybody, he could. 579 00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:21,610 The dead and the energy coming from the hill outside can wreak havoc. 580 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:28,540 on the human body that kind of energy and being exposed to it 581 00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:35,300 consistently is going to make people who are sensitive that encounter 582 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:41,700 it become very drained and lethargic it's hard 583 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:48,480 it's hard i picture myself in a wheelchair it inhibits 584 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,500 my life i don't know what else To try. 585 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,380 I don't feel like I can be a fully functioning mom. 586 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,240 So we got bad energy. 587 00:38:19,710 --> 00:38:23,030 a bunch of dead people, and these two tricks is up to no good. 588 00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:25,510 I'd say it's a good thing you called us in. 589 00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:29,350 Now, the big question is, is there anything you can do to fight back? 590 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:31,770 Now, for that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 591 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:40,650 Honestly, I don't know how you can even spend more than a couple of hours in 592 00:38:40,650 --> 00:38:41,650 this house. 593 00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:48,670 Being sensitive, this is just not a healthy place. 594 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,440 to be at all. 595 00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:58,940 I would definitely recommend that you move as soon as 596 00:38:58,940 --> 00:38:59,940 possible. 597 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,580 I know that's not what you want to hear, but everything is working against you 598 00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:12,940 here. And I feel like if you were to stay here, your health and I just really 599 00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:18,300 worried that it's just not good. 600 00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:19,880 There's nothing good here. 601 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:27,300 Yeah, it's just one thing after another and it never ceases here. 602 00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:34,160 The first thing that I would like to have happen, if you are to move, 603 00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:41,400 would be counseling for the family as a whole to heal from this. You 604 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:47,280 know, dealing with PTSD, you know, that can be long -lasting and the effects can 605 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,350 get... more severe over time. 606 00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:52,870 These guys were saying they've been fighting more, so that could help. 607 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:59,410 Milena, the other thing I would like for you to do would be to go for grief 608 00:39:59,410 --> 00:40:06,030 counseling for specifically the accident. I think you might have some 609 00:40:06,030 --> 00:40:07,650 survivor's guilt there. 610 00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:14,170 These are the things that I think would be the road to a better life and 611 00:40:14,170 --> 00:40:17,450 recovery and then learning how to deal with it. 612 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,540 All of the abilities that you guys have. 613 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:23,680 Is this something you guys are going to think about or is this something that 614 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,880 you're going to do? 615 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,400 Our family matters the most. 616 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,220 And making sure that we're all safe, that we're all healthy is what matters 617 00:40:34,220 --> 00:40:35,220 most. 618 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,260 Amy's been the first person to give me a way to feel better. 619 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:47,700 So if I have a treatment plan, I would be really foolish not to. to take it. 620 00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:48,940 Yeah. 621 00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:55,700 Getting past this chapter is honestly what I want more 622 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:57,900 than staying. 623 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,820 I think we know what we have to do. 624 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:04,240 We'll find a place that works. 625 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,080 There is a light at the end of this tunnel. 626 00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:08,540 Yeah. 627 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,920 It is always very difficult to tell someone they need to leave their home. 628 00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:20,020 But in a situation as dangerous as this, it's their only option. Hopefully 629 00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:25,680 Austin and Melania's family take my advice, leave this place behind, and get 630 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,160 fresh start somewhere new. 631 00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:33,580 Hi, Dead Files. 632 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,240 So a little update since you guys have been here. 633 00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:44,360 We found a PTSD grief counselor that we're going to be pursuing therapy with. 634 00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:46,230 We're also looking at moving. 635 00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:51,850 Currently, we are planning on staying until we find a good place to go to. 636 00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:58,610 We really thank you and look forward to what's next on our journey. Thank you 637 00:41:58,610 --> 00:41:59,610 for helping our family. 56860

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