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I'm seeing a big winged creature.
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This is a potential threat to their
life.
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I think it wants to kill me. I think it
wants me dead.
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I've been in law enforcement. I've done
things to protect others, but I can't do
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anything here.
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It wants to take a child here.
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I felt a visible finger touch my back.
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We're dealing with a possession.
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I'm sorry. I need to take a break.
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This thing is pure evil. I think that
many would refer to it as a demon.
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Ooh, the dark is getting darker.
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My name is Amy Allen.
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I see dead people.
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There is a skinwalker here.
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I speak to dead people.
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And they speak to me.
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He wants to collect the women.
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But there's only one way to know if my
findings are real.
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There. Stalking the life out of these
people.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve DeShavu. I'm a retired New
York City homicide detective.
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This is the kind of case that would have
haunted me. And I know every person,
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every house has secrets.
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It's my job to reveal them. But Steve
and I never speak. We never communicate
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during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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Is that what I think it is?
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Yes. When we uncover if it saved you to
stay. I told you he was trying to kill
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me.
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We're time to get out. You have a dead
person inside you.
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I'm out here in Oakland, Oregon. It's
about an hour south of Eugene.
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I got a call from a couple, Jamie and
Scott. Now.
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They say whatever's in their house is
evil and is going after their kids.
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We just want help so we can live a life
where there's not this black cloud
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hanging over us.
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They seem like good people, and I'm
hoping Amy and I can help them out.
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I feel darkness in here.
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It, like, literally hits you in the
stomach, like this anger.
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I think this is a living person who is
experiencing this anger.
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I feel like someone in here is being
influenced.
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Yeah, it's scaring me.
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So, Jamie, I'm glad I'm here because
when you and I spoke on the phone, it
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didn't sound like things were good here.
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No, they're not.
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It's scary. It's uncomfortable.
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Like, we just constantly feel on edge.
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Now, who all lives in the house?
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So, this is a picture.
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Okay. Who we got here? So, this is
Hunter. He is seven. My husband, Scott,
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then our son, Braden, who is 16, and
then Alex is in the front, and he is 12.
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Okay. So, it's a big family.
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Yes.
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Okay, so Jamie, do me a favor and give
me a list of what's going on. We are
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hearing voices.
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Things are moving on their own.
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We're seeing dark shadow figures.
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Sudden mood changes.
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What kind of mood changes are we talking
about?
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It'll just be a regular day and we'll be
fine. And then all of a sudden, my
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husband or I will just get super angry.
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It feels like I'm going to explode.
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Now, are the kids being affected by the
mood swings?
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Our seven -year -old, Hunter.
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He gets angry with his siblings and he
will sometimes hit them.
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And, like, sorry.
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It's okay.
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Hunter's my baby.
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And to see him so angry and acting the
way that he
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acts and knowing that that's not him is
really hard.
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It's really hard.
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Because he's a good kid.
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And I can't do anything about it. I
can't stop it.
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Okay. Here, take my... Okay.
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Thank you.
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It's got to be tough being a parent
trying to be strong all the time.
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It's hard.
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Oof, I do not like it in here.
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When I first walked in, what I saw was
like a big
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winged creature.
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And I'm like, oh, no.
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Can you describe this thing in any more
detail?
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It's big, and it had bat wings, and it
had a long, thin neck, and it
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just made me sick. It consists of evil.
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So it's never been human or anything
like that.
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I feel like it's in the person, I think,
this living person.
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And it's making them angry and lash out.
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Bad, because that would be some kind of
possession.
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All right, Jamie, so what's going on in
here?
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I feel like I'm constantly being watched
by something.
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Any place in particular worse than
others?
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Yeah, in the shower in the master
bathroom.
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I won't take a shower alone upstairs
anymore. My husband has to be in the
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bathroom. All right, so it's that bad.
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Yeah. Anything else?
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I have seen shadow figures all over the
house. Do me a favor and describe what
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you're seeing.
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It's usually something that's dark.
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Okay. And it moves very quickly.
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Did you get a sense of, like, the size
of it, the mass?
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If I could compare it to anything, it
would be compared to a child, maybe 9 or
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10 years old.
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It's scary.
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Very uncomfortable.
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I feel like I'm in this bed and I'm
seeing somebody standing at the door.
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But what they're seeing is this winged
thing.
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And then like being like, no, no, no,
and looking again and they're gone.
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What I'm seeing through this living
person is them seeing this, you know,
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illusion of whatever is standing at the
door, also seeing it at the end of the
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bed at some point.
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So I feel like a living person here
knows that this is a potential threat
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to their life.
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So what's going on in here?
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Sometimes I will be up here on the bed
and it will feel like someone has gotten
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on the bed with me. So when this
happens, what the hell goes through your
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I get very scared and emotional.
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I mean, that was scary to me too. It was
very scary.
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Anything else?
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One night I was in here and I was awake
and I felt what felt like someone had
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taken their finger and ran it down my
butt, like onto my leg.
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What about your husband?
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He wasn't here.
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She was touched inappropriately. Yes, I
was.
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What'd you do when that happened? Did
you jump up?
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Yeah. I freaked out.
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I got up and I went out of the room.
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I don't blame you.
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Okay, so anything else?
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I have really vivid bad nightmares.
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Can you give me a description of what
these nightmares are like?
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I am being raped or inappropriately
touched by something evil.
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Can you see what's doing this to you?
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I feel like it's the...
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big, dark, male presence that I don't
think is human.
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What do you think it wants?
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I think it wants to kill me. I think it
wants me dead.
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This is no way to live.
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I don't know how you're doing this.
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Why don't you just pack up and get the
hell out of here?
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I wish it was that easy to just pack up
a family of five and get out of here.
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And this is our home.
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So you want to stay and fight? Yes.
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This is your home, not theirs? It is.
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And this is my family.
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I would be afraid to go to bed at night.
Why? There's some kind of sexual
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attacks on a living person here, and
it's from the winged demon thing.
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I feel the legs being held.
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I think it's lashing out.
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She's feeling larger hands, but maybe
longer fingers.
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Oh, I don't like it. I'm getting my
call.
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Very uncomfortable.
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And I feel like this person's waking up
being like, what the, and knowing,
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like, you want to kill me. You know what
I mean? You want to kill me.
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So, Scott, I talked to your wife
earlier.
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Yeah. What she's describing is this
place just crawling with paranormal
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activity. I mean, do you agree with
that?
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I certainly do.
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Okay, now, have you had experiences?
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I have.
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See, I was sitting on the couch, just
kind of relaxing, and I just felt like
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this large thump right in the back of
the couch.
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My first thought was, you know, one of
the dogs ran into it or something.
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Right. You know, I take a look back
there.
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There's nothing.
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So this thing really, you felt it?
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Absolutely. It moved me forward.
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That was my first real experience, and
that was kind of like, God, this is
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That's a hell of a first experience to
have. Right?
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So what else?
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Well, a couple times I've seen this
shadow figure. It's really fast, always
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racing down this hallway down here.
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So, Scott, can you describe the size of
this thing, this shadow?
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Well, it could have been the size of a
child about yay high.
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Okay. All right, so have you ever seen
anything else like that?
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Yes. It was about a week ago. I woke up
in the middle of the night, and I see
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this giant shadow thing.
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If it was a person, it would be about
six and a half feet tall. It was huge,
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leaned over my wife.
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I jump out of bed, you know, to get a
better look. What's going on?
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There's nothing there.
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It's gone.
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Now, do you think maybe you were
dreaming this, or this is something that
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actually saw? No, this is actually
something I saw.
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It was such darkness.
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That, you know, light couldn't even
penetrate. It was just dark, dark mass.
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Man, I don't know.
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It's just, it was evil.
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I think that was the first time when I
really felt helpless that something was,
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you know, essentially, I don't know,
harming, feeding, what it was doing to
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wife, but I can't do anything about it.
Yeah, you seem upset about it.
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It's very upsetting.
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Not being able to protect your family is
the worst feeling in the world for a
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man. It makes me feel utterly useless.
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I've been in combat. I've been in law
enforcement.
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I've done things to protect others, but
I can't do anything here.
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My hands are tied. I have nothing.
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I saw two freaking kids come in.
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Then I really look, and I see, oh, it's
only one kid.
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This is a dead child, and it's a boy.
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maybe three to five years old, light
hair, old -fashioned clothing.
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And the other one is a shadow figure
that's like a child shadow figure.
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So it does sing.
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It's capable of doing things and
physically interacting. So I'm wondering
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like, living people feel this thing, you
know, like jumping on
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the sofa or sitting on the sofa, like
hard neck.
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to them so like crawling into the bed or
jumping on you know the bed with them
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living people in it
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after
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speaking with jamie and scott i met with
their kids in the living room my
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tv it turns on and off randomly another
thing is that i hear voices
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It wears me out. All of them are having
bad experiences.
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There's toys back there, and they're
shuffling at night as I'm sleeping. I
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up to go look at them, see what's in
there. It freaks me out when there's
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nothing, and my brother is asleep.
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But what's got me most concerned is what
that seven -year -old hunter is dealing
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with. Once I was sitting down on the
couch, and then I felt a visible finger
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touch my back.
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Okay.
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Sometimes my tummy just hurts really
bad.
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There's some bad stuff he's got going on
here.
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If you could talk to whatever's here,
what would you say to him?
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I'd want to say to it that, can you
please go away? Don't harm anyone. Don't
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make sure this family falls apart.
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I love them too much. Just please go
away. Okay.
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I do see the shadow child in here, big
time.
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And the other kid, the real dead child.
That makes me concerned about
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kid living here.
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Because that means, you know, this
shadow successfully killed the kid.
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I believe that it wants to take a child
here.
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I think that it wants a child in this
house, a living child, to come
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with it. So that would entail killing
that kid.
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So I made all my usual calls when I got
here, and I just heard back from a
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genealogist. She told me she found
something.
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Turns out one of the first owners of
Jamie and Scott's property suffered from
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the second they set foot on the land.
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Well, Jonathan, I appreciate you helping
me out with this case. So who's this
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family?
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Well, the Maupin family were among some
of the earliest European...
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pioneers out here settling in Oregon.
Okay. They were here by the mid -1800s,
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and they managed to accumulate more than
1 ,000 acres of land here in Douglas
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County. All right. So, Janice, when did
things go bad for the Maupins?
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Just about from the beginning.
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Patriarch of the family, Garrett Maupin,
was a farmer, but he seems to have had
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a bit of a drinking problem. Okay. In
1866, he was driving his horse -run cart
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with some bales of cotton.
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He had his 11 -year -old son with him.
Okay.
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Overturned the cart.
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Son was thrown free, but Garrett didn't
do so well. The bales of cotton ended up
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on top of him and suffocated to death.
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What a miserable way to go.
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He was only 44.
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Who says he was intoxicated? I mean,
what happened to the kid?
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Well, Garrett's son, Captain, decided to
follow in his father's footsteps, and
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he became a farmer also.
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And then in 1918, Captain and his wife,
Minnie, bought the property that you're
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actually investigating right now.
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And this is a photo of Captain and
Minnie on their wedding day.
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All right, so did things go better for
them?
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Captain and Minnie were a hardworking
farming couple, but eventually that kind
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of work does catch up to you.
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So Captain started having heart
problems, spent the last two weeks of
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bedridden, and he died on December 1,
1934 in the house. Okay.
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And he was 79 years old when he died.
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All right, so now he's dead. What about
Minnie? Is she still alive?
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She was still alive when Captain died,
but within the next two years, she was
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diagnosed with myocarditis.
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That's a problem with the heart where
the electrical impulses are starting to
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fail and the heart begins beating
irregularly. So she died June 3rd, 1936
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house. Okay. And she was 67 at the time.
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So this family coming from Europe trying
to do the right thing and the American
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dream and all, 1 ,000 acres of land and
again on my client's property and
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everything goes to hell.
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I'm seeing this dead woman, very, very
long hair.
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She's thick, thin with a twisted face.
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I think she grew up here, you know, she
lived her whole life here.
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I saw her as a young girl. She was
having to bring water to her home or
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farm. It was hard work. And I got that
she had heart issues when she was alive.
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Then she grows older.
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Then she dies.
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She is in a decomposing, kind of
mummified state.
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She's super powerful when it comes to
harvesting electricity.
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So the living may have issues with
electrical stuff here. She does this
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is angry.
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She is upset because she turned into
like her father as she aged. So she
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became kind of a mean, bitchy woman.
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So I just got a call from my old friend,
Jeff Davis.
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Now, he's worked with me on a lot of
cases over the years. And he said he
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the story of a love triangle that turned
deadly.
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Jeff, it's good to see you again. This
love triangle, who's the players?
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Well, the two guys were Alfred Kincaid
and Samuel Brown.
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Okay. Both of them were about 21 years
old.
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All right, so I've got to assume both
these guys were in love with the same
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woman. What do we know about her?
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Well, not very much. She's just listed
out as Miss Mattoon.
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So what happened?
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On August 13, 1894, Kincaid was working.
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He was demolishing a house just down the
block from where he lived. Okay. And in
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the middle of this, Kincaid's younger
brother came up to him and said, Hey,
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Brown is at our house.
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He wants to talk to you.
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Okay. So Kincaid put his tools down.
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and started walking over to his house to
meet Brown.
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But Brown was waiting for him. It was an
ambush.
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Brown pulled out a pistol and shot
Kincaid in the chest.
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I assume the shot kills him.
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Yes.
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All right, so I know this is a small
town, but any idea where this happened?
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It's not clear, but Oakland is a small
town, less than a square mile, and in
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1894 it was probably even much smaller,
so probably within shouting distance of
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your client's property.
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All right, so can I assume they caught
this kid?
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Yes, and he stood trial, and in December
of 1894, he was found guilty of murder
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and sentenced to be executed by hanging.
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Shortly before his execution, it was
about 7 in the morning, they let him out
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his cell to go eat breakfast, and the
food was set up in the corridor outside
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the cell block.
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Okay. So they let him out, and a couple
hours later, somebody finally said, hey.
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He hasn't come back from breakfast yet.
So they went into the corridor and found
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that two of the bars had been sawed off
the windows.
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All right, so they go look for this kid
at his home?
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Yeah, and here's where it gets really
weird. He vanished.
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No record of him anywhere else ever.
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Okay.
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I see two men fighting.
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They had a gun.
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One male has very light brown hair.
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He was very, very thin and I think
short.
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And I'd put their ages between 25 and
35.
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They come into the room fighting. They
fall on the floor again. So I'm like,
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okay, apparently these dudes are like
always fighting.
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So I would think that the living might
hear stuff rolling around on the floor,
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which is them rolling around on the
floor.
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I heard the handgun go off.
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One of them was murdered.
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So far, I've got clients who believe the
paranormal is tearing their family
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apart on a property where a young man
was ambushed and murdered.
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But I'd like to see if there's anything
else.
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Searching through old records, I find a
tragic story about a teenager who
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murdered a 55 -year -old man.
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Turns out this homicide happened less
than a mile from Jamie and Scott's
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property.
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So I'm heading over to meet a historian
who says this case still has locals
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shaking their heads.
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Doug, I appreciate you helping me out
with this homicide.
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Who was the victim?
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Merrill Ormsby, 55 years old, who just
recently moved to Oakland, and he lived
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in a trailer just a few thousand yards
away from the site that you're
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investigating. What happened?
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So on the night of April 10th, 1961, a
couple boys had been in a science fair,
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and they ended that and came over to
Merrill's house and decided to throw
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rocks and run a stick along the fence.
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For what reason?
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just kind of stirring things up a bit
with him.
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Merrill came out, chased him off, and he
had a stick with him, and he beat one
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of the kids, a 16 -year -old named
Ernest Perry, and then he ran off,
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with the rest of his friends.
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All right, so now this kid's back with
his friends. What happened next?
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Well, they kind of gathered together at
the church and decided that they were
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going to go back to Merrill's and stir
some things up again. So Ernest goes
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to a mailbox, and he knocks the box off
and grabs that 2x4 pole out of the
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ground, and they start heading back to
the trailer.
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All right, so this doesn't sound like
it's going to turn out good for this
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What happened?
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No, it really doesn't. So Merrill's
ready for the kids, and he and Perry
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square off.
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Merrill has the club. Perry has the
stick. Okay. And they go at it. There's
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swing. Youth win.
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Perry hits Merrill with the stick,
fracturing his skull, and he falls to
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ground like a sack of potatoes.
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Is he dead at this point?
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He's not dead at this point. He's out,
but he ends up going to the hospital. He
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dies about 5 in the morning.
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That next day, he had a fractured skull,
had a brain hemorrhage.
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That's a real waste of life here.
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Did they ever catch up with this kid?
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They did. They ended up catching him. He
went to jail for a minute, but the
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grand jury ended up exonerating him.
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Do we know why?
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By all accounts, he was a good kid who
had just made a horrible mistake.
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This kid got away with murder.
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I mean, he should have got some kind of
manslaughter.
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You know, something.
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This winged demon has been messing with
people in this area for a long time.
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And now it's possessing a kid in this
house.
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It feels like this person's unbalanced
and becoming more unbalanced.
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What would that look like?
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Somebody flipping the bat every once in
a while, you know, being violent,
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throwing things, punching things.
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I don't feel this is a good situation.
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I'm nervous about it. So it's almost
like this person's blacking out and
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when this rage comes out and when this
thing comes out.
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I think there's potential there for this
child, teenager, to do harm
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to others in this house, physically.
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Yeah, I don't think I'd want to.
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sleep in the same house.
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I saw a lot of disturbing things on my
walk, but two stood out.
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First is this old, angry, dead woman.
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She was probably in her 60s.
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She had very deep crow's feet.
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Her mouth needs to look more like a
skull.
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Next, I described the winged demon
that's possessing the little boy.
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This thing, it had these huge bat wings.
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The eyes were big and black.
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Amy, is this what you saw?
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Yes, that's what I saw.
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Now that Amy and I have completed our
investigations, we're ready to reveal
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findings to each other and our clients
for the first time.
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So guys, I'd like you to meet Amy.
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She's going to be doing the reveal from
a separate room, so if you can
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concentrate and focus on your case as
well as the dead without any
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Amy, meet Jamie and Scott.
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So they moved to their dream home a few
years ago with their three sons.
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From right to left, you got Brayden,
who's 16.
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You've got 12 -year -old Alex, and
you've got a hunter who's seven.
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Jamie believes that whatever's here is
going after her kids and that all their
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lives are literally in danger.
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So unless Amy's got some questions for
you, she'll describe her walk for us.
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The first person I want to talk about is
a dead woman.
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I saw her in various stages of her life.
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When she showed herself...
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As a young girl, I saw her working very
hard.
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Her father was a mean man. He made her
do excessive chores, and
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she ended up kind of becoming her father
later on. She did suffer from
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heart issues, and that's what ended up
killing her.
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When she died, I believe she was in her
60s.
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She can get very angry and she then can
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harvest the electricity around her. So I
would think that you would suffer from
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various electrical issues here. Well,
yeah.
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Yeah.
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Amy, when I spoke to Alex, he told me
about his TV turning off and on all by
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itself. Have you experienced any other
kind of electrical stuff here? All the
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time. Like what?
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Lights flickering, the outlets will
always reset, like pop and reset,
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off and on. Yeah, that could be her.
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So now the dead lady made me think of a
previous owner I came across in
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research. Her name was Minnie Maupin,
and she grew up around here.
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Her family was some of the first farmers
that settled in this area in the 1800s.
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Now, you said something about she didn't
want to be mean like her father.
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I don't know much about her father, but
it turns out her father -in -law was a
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real... piece of work. Garrett Morphin,
he had a serious problem with booze.
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This guy got into a drunken wreck while
driving his horse -drawn cart, and he
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ended up buried by the heavy bales of
cotton and suffocated to death. Oh, wow.
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Now, the guy was just 44 years old.
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Now, Minnie and her husband bought this
property back in 1918, and they farmed
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the land for over 25 years.
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Minnie's husband, Captain, Worked the
farm morning to night his whole life. In
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1934, his body gave out, and he died of
a heart attack right here on the
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property. He was 79 years old, but then
there's many.
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Now, not long after her husband died,
she was diagnosed with myocarditis.
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So when that happens, the electrical
system in your heart goes haywire.
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She passed away on the property at the
age of 67.
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This is her death certificate.
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I did find a picture of Minnie, and
she's here with her husband, Captain.
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Now, I know it's a young photo, but is
it possible that could be who you saw
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knowing her background?
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I had a sketch done of her when she's
older.
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You guys, take a look at that.
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Wow.
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I mean, they could be the same person.
Absolutely.
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Face shape. Mm -hmm.
464
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,480
The nose looks similar.
465
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,560
So it's possible that this could be mini
-morphin you ran into?
466
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,900
Oh, yeah, I think so, yeah.
467
00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:33,340
So how else did the walk go?
468
00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:38,980
I went into the bedroom at the top of
the stairs.
469
00:30:39,340 --> 00:30:40,340
That's where the boys sleep.
470
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,460
And I saw initially what I thought were
two kids holding hands, but when...
471
00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:48,060
I really paid attention.
472
00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:54,880
I saw that one of them was a legit, you
know, dead kid, but the other one
473
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,560
was actually a shadow kid.
474
00:30:58,060 --> 00:31:00,500
I was not comfortable with that.
475
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Shadow kid does create a bit of a
ruckus, and I was curious if...
476
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,640
The living were experiencing things on
the walls, feeling somebody sit beside
477
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,480
them, somebody getting in the bed or
jumping on the bed.
478
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,500
There's been numerous occasions where I
have felt like something has sat behind
479
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:24,860
me on the bed or jumped on the end of
the bed.
480
00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:27,780
Okay. And there's never anything there.
481
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,380
Okay. Okay. Now, Scott was down here in
the living room area when you were on
482
00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:34,279
the couch.
483
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Yes, I was on the couch in the living
room area, and there's quite a large
484
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,920
shove, like, with some weight that hit
the back of the couch, enough to move
485
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,380
I also think the living may see the
shadow kid.
486
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,420
I see, like, a medium -sized shadow
figure, which I thought was a kid.
487
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,640
I was coming down the stairs, and there
was a little shadow figure, and it
488
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,260
always stayed in my periphery and would
shoot down toward the garage down the
489
00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:04,260
hallway.
490
00:32:05,380 --> 00:32:12,060
I did get that the shadow figure, I
believe, had an influence
491
00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:15,720
on this real child's death.
492
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:23,440
And I know that it tricked this child to
stay with him. I got that
493
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:30,140
the shadow child keeps this child with
it so that
494
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:32,840
it might be able to entice.
495
00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:34,870
other children.
496
00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:44,110
And I do believe that it does have its
sights set on
497
00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:45,430
a child here.
498
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:52,090
I know that's going to be tough for you
guys to hear.
499
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:56,050
It's like not what you want to hear as a
parent.
500
00:32:56,830 --> 00:32:57,830
No.
501
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,700
It makes me sad, but it also makes me
really angry.
502
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,380
I feel so helpless.
503
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:09,780
Yeah.
504
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:14,060
Jamie, you know about Alex hearing
voices calling him? Yeah.
505
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:15,760
Tell Amy what's going on with that.
506
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:22,740
On a few different occasions, Alex will
hear someone calling for him, and no one
507
00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:23,740
has called for him.
508
00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:26,280
Yeah, this is not a good situation.
509
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,340
Brandon told us that in the middle of
the night, he'll hear toys moving like
510
00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:32,500
of the kids was going through it.
511
00:33:32,860 --> 00:33:37,380
There's been times where Hunter will be
in the living room sitting down and
512
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:41,980
something will push him from behind in
the chair or poke him in the back.
513
00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:46,780
Amy, any idea of which of Jamie and
Scott's kids is now being targeted by
514
00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:48,760
shadow kid? Oh, I think it's Alex.
515
00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:53,260
Alex, that the shadow figure's going in?
Yeah.
516
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,820
I can go in between being really mad and
really sad.
517
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,080
You've got a lot going on so far.
518
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:09,100
in the house what else amy so i'm gonna
talk about uh something that i'm
519
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:14,699
really worried about a big
520
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:20,080
winged creature it consists of evil
521
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:26,940
so it's never been human or anything
like that i do want to discuss how
522
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:33,770
it's affecting one of the kids first i
believe it's making them sick. They're
523
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:37,929
suffering with stomach pains, having
stomach issues. It's absolutely
524
00:34:37,929 --> 00:34:41,830
them. And it's making this child feel
very angry.
525
00:34:42,130 --> 00:34:48,510
And I believe that there may be some
behavioral issues right now where
526
00:34:48,510 --> 00:34:53,610
this child might be exhibiting some
violent tendencies like throwing things,
527
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:55,050
punching things.
528
00:34:56,909 --> 00:34:58,770
I think it's...
529
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,620
Highly likely that we're dealing with a
possession.
530
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:11,340
I also feel that there's a real
possibility that this child might try to
531
00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:14,860
some physical harm to others in the
house.
532
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,920
I'm sorry. I need to take a break.
533
00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:21,180
Okay.
534
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,620
I just need to go outside.
535
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,400
It's Hunter.
536
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,860
It's not good to hear, but we can answer
this and we'll get some help.
537
00:35:40,540 --> 00:35:41,540
Okay,
538
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:43,860
sweetie. Yeah.
539
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,920
I wanted to give you this.
540
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:49,220
Thank you.
541
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,400
A lot of what she was saying was hitting
home.
542
00:35:55,850 --> 00:35:57,930
because of what you told me about
Hunter.
543
00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:05,550
He has really bad, angry outbursts, and
he hits his siblings,
544
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:07,630
or he'll throw something.
545
00:36:08,530 --> 00:36:13,330
And I've been saying for a while that I
thought something was going on, and he
546
00:36:13,330 --> 00:36:16,330
also has really bad, really bad stomach
issues.
547
00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:22,310
Now, Amy, do you think it's possible
that this thing is possessing Hunter?
548
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:24,190
Yes, I do.
549
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Now, is this creature thing only going
after the kids?
550
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:37,360
I got that a living woman here was going
through
551
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,860
some stuff.
552
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:45,140
What I felt was this woman feeling
fingers or hands on her legs
553
00:36:45,140 --> 00:36:50,400
and her legs being forced open.
554
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,780
I've been having nightmares of being
raped, actually, that exact.
555
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,080
Exactly the way you explained it.
556
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,960
One night, it was about a week ago, I
woke up in the middle of the night, and
557
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,780
look over, and there was a dark figure
leaned over inches away from her
558
00:37:11,780 --> 00:37:12,780
face.
559
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,440
I couldn't make out any features. It was
just dark, and it just felt so evil.
560
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,540
But it just scares me that something's
happened to my wife, and I can't stop
561
00:37:28,270 --> 00:37:32,810
So Amy, what would this winged creature
look like to them? I did have a sketch
562
00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:33,810
done.
563
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,380
It looks like Hunter.
564
00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:05,300
So, Amy, the child that's depicted in
this drawing, do we think that Hunter?
565
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,760
I do.
566
00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:09,400
I'm really pissed off right now.
567
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Yeah. This thing is pure evil. I think
that many would refer to it as a demon.
568
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,620
Obviously, it's very dangerous. I
believe that it is possessing him.
569
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:26,780
This thing, its end game would be to...
570
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:30,600
More than likely take out as many people
in the house as possible.
571
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,400
This is so horrible.
572
00:38:42,580 --> 00:38:43,200
I
573
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:50,080
don't
574
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,720
know who looks more surprised here.
575
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,940
You or me.
576
00:38:54,340 --> 00:38:56,500
Now, you thought there was something
deadly here.
577
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,900
But I don't think any of us thought
there was a winged demon in your house.
578
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,380
Now to find out if there's anything you
can do about it or you guys need to pack
579
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:07,880
your stuff up and get the hell out of
here.
580
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:10,360
For that answer, I'm going to turn it
over to Amy.
581
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:20,600
First thing to do is take care of this
demon in the possession that's taking
582
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,600
place here.
583
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,500
I'd like a demonologist to come.
584
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:28,450
and do an exorcism of Hunter.
585
00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:33,490
Hunter should be okay after that,
correct?
586
00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:34,890
Right.
587
00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:40,970
The second thing that needs to be done
right away is an exorcism of the
588
00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:41,970
location.
589
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:47,410
So the exorcism of the house will get
rid of this winged demon?
590
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:49,990
That should get rid of that, yeah.
591
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:51,270
Okay, good.
592
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,440
The next thing that needs to be done is
a psychic medium needs to come and move
593
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,440
Minnie on.
594
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,240
She just needs to go.
595
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,180
Then the fourth thing you need to do is
deal with the shadow child.
596
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,000
Usually the shadow beings will stay at a
particular location.
597
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,260
This one's very odd.
598
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:20,160
So I'd like for the people who come...
599
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:26,740
you know, the demonologist and the
psychic medium, to come back later to
600
00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:33,540
they could move the real child and the
shadow being away and
601
00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:34,540
on. Okay.
602
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,500
And then if they can't... Yeah, then it
would be a move situation.
603
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,400
What are your thoughts on that?
604
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,580
At the end of the day, it is just a
house.
605
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,000
And our kids are so much more important
to us, obviously. Are you going to
606
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,100
execute what needs to be done?
607
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,360
Oh, yeah. Without a doubt.
608
00:40:58,820 --> 00:40:59,820
Yeah, definitely.
609
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:03,500
Thanks to Amy, there's a light switch
been turned on. We know what's going on.
610
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,220
So thank you.
611
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,280
We're very patient and very thankful.
Thank you two so much.
612
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,780
I really hope Jamie and Scott contact a
demonologist to exorcise the winged
613
00:41:16,780 --> 00:41:18,980
demon from Hunter and their property.
614
00:41:19,340 --> 00:41:24,360
If they do that, and work with the
medium to move on the shadow figure, I
615
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,240
believe they will find the peace and
happiness they deserve.
616
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,100
Hi, Steve and Amy.
617
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:35,060
Just checking in to let you know things
are going great.
618
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:41,600
We contacted the demonologist like you
suggested, and she was able to come out
619
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,940
to the house and clear the house, clear
the property.
620
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,800
The feeling here has been amazing, and
we can't thank you enough.
621
00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:55,330
Our family is so much happier and we
look forward to the future of not having
622
00:41:55,330 --> 00:41:58,610
any issues with any more spirits. So
thank you guys so much. We really
623
00:41:58,610 --> 00:41:59,650
appreciate it. Thank you.
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