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He's the one who's in control.
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And he says, I'm the undertaker.
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The actual crematorium was right here.
You can see there's still ashes.
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Some groups that came in used the Ouija
board. Were you part of that at all? I'm
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a spirit drug addict, I guess.
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Weird. I just saw a sail.
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That's not good.
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He was dead before he hit the ground.
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He changed form into a demon.
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Very unsettling.
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Oh, the dark is getting darker.
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My name is Amy Allen.
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I see dead people.
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There is a skinwalker here.
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I speak to dead people.
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And they speak to me.
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He wants to collect the women.
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But there's only one way to know if my
findings are real.
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They're stalking the life out of these
people.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve DeShop.
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I'm a retired New York City homicide
detective.
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This is the kind of case that would have
haunted me. And I know every person,
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every house has secrets.
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It's my job to reveal them. But Steve
and I never speak. We never communicate
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during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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Is that what I think it is?
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Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for
you to stay. I told you he was trying to
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kill me.
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We're time to get out. You have a dead
person inside too.
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So I'm out here in the city of Modesto.
It's about an hour and a half east of
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San Francisco.
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I got a call from a woman named Dana.
Now, it was her lifelong dream to open
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her own business.
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But now it's all gone to hell.
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We come in with love, light, respect,
and that's how we try to treat the
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here. But we do have some that are
upset.
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We don't know why.
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She doesn't think the place is safe for
anyone. And if we can't help her, she
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told me she'll have to shut it down.
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Here, the earth swallows you up.
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Possibly there's a curse.
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What exactly is this curse?
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Basically, it makes you feel like you're
walking a plank, and if you fall off,
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you're doomed.
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And it also does drag you down and make
you lose your hope and your dreams.
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So, Dana, walking in this place, I felt
like I was walking into one of those
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haunted houses.
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Right. Hi, how are you doing?
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Got some place here.
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It's kind of crazy, huh? Yeah.
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When we spoke, you sounded like you were
upset about what was going on here.
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What's happening?
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I just want my customers to feel safe,
and I want everybody to come in and have
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a wonderful experience and not be
overwhelmed with the spirits that are
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Are the employees affected as well?
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Absolutely, yeah. Okay. And that's my
goal. I want everybody safe in my
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business.
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So what exactly is the business?
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Well, we mostly rent costumes here.
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Okay. So you know anything about the
property's history before you bought it?
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stated that it was a funeral home and a
crematorium.
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Really? Yeah.
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And you still bought the place?
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I'm used to the paranormal. I've always
felt stuff.
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So when I came in, it was very strong.
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You had a lot of dead people coming in
and out of here. Yeah, with bad
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situations, I'm sure, too. A lot of
accidents, you know.
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You think they're still here?
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Absolutely, yeah.
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Okay, so Dana, do me a favor. Give me a
list of what's going on here.
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Well, we hear voices out loud.
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We have mood changes.
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We feel like we're being watched.
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And we've seen the shadow figures.
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So, Dana, with all the stuff that's
going on here, have you done anything to
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to fight it?
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Well, we've had paranormal groups come
in. We've had mediums come in.
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Some of the paranormal groups have used
Ouija boards.
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Okay, that could be a problem. Amy's
always upset when people use the Ouija
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boards.
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So, Dana, ultimately, what are you
hoping we can do?
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It was my dream to have my own shop and
to be able to give something to my kids.
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This is my passion.
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My youngest daughter doesn't even want
to come in here. I just want everybody
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be safe in here.
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That's the key.
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There's just a lot of residual energy
here.
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It feels really bad.
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It's weird.
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Because it's very loud back here.
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People walking and people talking. A lot
of noise.
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It's real thick energy. It's very there.
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So the living may feel like this
overwhelming stress, this sense of
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It's like urgent. It's bad.
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So, Dana, it's a pretty big place. Is
this your storage area?
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Yeah, this is where we keep our rental
costumes.
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The actual crematorium was right here.
We're standing right where it is, and
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can see there's still ashes on the
ceiling up there from them incinerating.
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this darker spot is where the
crematorium was? Yes.
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Okay.
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All right, so what's going on? I get a
lot of sadness throughout the shop.
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So what happens? Does it just come on
all of a sudden? It just comes on all of
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sudden. I start crying.
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Is that your personality?
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No, not at all. Depression at all? Nope,
not at all. When I walk outside, it
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will clear up, and then if I go back to
the spot, sometimes it will come on
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again. It's got to be frustrating.
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It is. It is frustrating.
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Okay, so anything else?
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I get heaviness on my chest.
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It's like a weight of an elephant on
you.
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Do you have any respiratory problems?
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I do have asthma, but it's not that.
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All right, so anything else?
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I see shadow figures throughout the
building.
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How often?
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Every day.
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So the shadow figures you are seeing,
can you describe one of them? Just a
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of a body. I mean, just the form of a
body walking through, and you'll see it
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the wall.
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All right, so anything else?
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So I've had several customers that have
seen a woman with blonde hair, a white
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woman. I mean, could it be somebody
messing around with all those wigs you
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No, because we have security cameras all
around.
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So obviously you've got a lot of stuff
going on here, and I can see why you'd
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concerned about it. Yeah, I've got a lot
of stuff going on here.
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I'm seeing a woman.
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She is crying a lot.
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And then she was holding me, which also
bothered me.
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Does she have any interaction with the
living?
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She can attach if she wants to.
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Are you surprised if they haven't seen
her full apparition?
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Okay, so what's going on here?
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So we close at 6 o 'clock, and I feel
like something just wants me out of the
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building. So what's it feel like to you?
Explain it. It's like I can't get out
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the door fast enough. It's like I'm
trying to set the alarm, and just like a
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heaviness coming towards me.
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All right, so anything else?
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We've had physical attacks.
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I've had a medium that came in here and
was scratched.
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Okay. And customers that were touched.
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Okay, so that's not good. So with all
the stuff going on here, do you think
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connected to the crematorium and the
funeral hall?
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I do.
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I do, because I feel that there were so
many people that came in here with
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tragic deaths.
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You know, all the stuff we talked about
is pretty intense.
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You seem a little laid back about it. Is
that a shield, or are you just not
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realizing what's going on here?
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I think it's more of a shield.
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I'm pretty jaded from all the stuff I've
seen and that this happened around me.
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So I think I just put up this front
like, oh, it doesn't bother me.
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One of your staff members got hurt, or
even a customer got hurt.
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You know, from the paranormal here. How
would you have felt about that?
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I won't deal with that well. This is my
family here.
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My employees are family. If there's
anything evil here, I want it gone.
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I see this man.
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He was nine feet tall.
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And, like, thin as, like, just super
thin.
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He's wearing a suit, and he...
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Leans, like, because he's kind of in the
wall.
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And he leans out of the wall and he
says, I'm the undertaker. And then he
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I'm the doctor.
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The tall man kept touching me.
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And any time he would touch me, I was
feeling like being drained.
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And also like I was about to have an
anxiety attack.
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I believe the living.
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would experience that here as well.
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He can travel.
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He forms attachments very quickly with
the living.
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Very unsettling.
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So, Michelle, I understand you work at
the shop here.
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Yes, I do. Okay, how many days a week
are you here?
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Five days a week.
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Okay, so Daniel was telling me that some
of the employees are kind of afraid to
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work here.
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What about you? I'm kind of into it.
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I like to do the EVPs.
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Okay. Since you're into it, have you had
any experiences while you've been here?
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Yes. When I first came into the shop, I
heard a woman moan.
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Can you tell the age of the woman?
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It sounded like an older lady.
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Okay, you got a lot of stuff here. Any
gadgets that can make those noises? You
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know, like playing with the customers
when they walk in, something like that.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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Okay, so anything else?
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When I was in the crematorium room.
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Okay, what happened?
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When I first walked in there, I felt
okay, and then it just felt like I was
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walking through a bunch of spiderwebs.
You sure there was no spiderweb that you
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just kind of maybe fell?
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Oh, I'm positive because it turned on
the light to look.
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So when this happened, were you doing
those EVPs you do?
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Yeah. Was it possible that the...
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The dead are irritated by you doing the
EVPs? What do you think?
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It's possible.
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I'm curious if Amy would say, listen,
what the EVPs are doing is antagonizing
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the dead and they want, you know, it's
not a good thing. That's what's causing
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all the paranormal activity.
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I mean, would you stop?
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No.
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All right. What else? Anything?
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I was sitting in the bathroom, and I was
just talking away to spirits, trying to
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do an EVP. And all of a sudden, it got
so dark where you couldn't even see my
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hand. This huge, huge mass came up from
behind me. How big of a mass do you
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think this was?
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It was probably about at least 7, 8 feet
tall.
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What did you do?
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I got up, and I ran out of the bathroom.
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Do you think that whatever's here could
be dangerous?
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Yeah, I think it might be a little
threatening.
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Okay.
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So this is a tall man. I do believe that
he's been seen. People more than
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likely would see a very tall, thinner,
like shadow person.
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He's the one who's in control. That's
what he said.
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I don't think he cares much for what's
going on with
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everything here. Saying it's grotesque,
unsightly.
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He is unhappy. He moves a lot through
the walls and that
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he can leave and he can come back.
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I think the living here would feel with
him like they're being watched.
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He can make physical contact.
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He can touch people.
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So people would feel his hands on them.
And his hands are very big. I do believe
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he has an attachment to one of the
people who own this place.
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She's like, I'm not always aggressive,
but when I have to be, I'll be
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aggressive.
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So, Ava, I understand that you helped
Dana open up this place. Yes.
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Have you had experiences?
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I hear voices.
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Okay. Can you describe some of the
voices you hear? A little kid will say,
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hi in the corner.
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There's a lady that always says hello,
like she was trying to join our
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conversation. What else?
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Sadness. Overwhelming.
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Okay. Now, Dana told me she has the same
issue.
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Yeah. I'll ask you, though. Do you
suffer from depression at all or
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like that?
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I felt like I was feeling whatever they
were feeling.
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The dead?
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Mm -hmm.
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Okay. Anything else?
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I had an experience downstairs where I
felt like somebody was behind me, and I
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turned around, and there was nobody
there.
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Okay. So it was a presence that you
felt. Like an actual presence, yeah. Was
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anybody in the store? No.
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I was alone.
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When I'm by myself, they mess with me.
Okay.
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You know, when I walked in here, this
place is kind of creepy. I mean, you got
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stuff all over the place. It is, yeah.
So you sure you saw something or maybe
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you might have freaked yourself out? Is
that possible?
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I don't think so. I love it.
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Michelle told me she does the EVP things
here in the store almost every day.
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Yeah. Do you do that? Dana told me that
some groups that came in used the Ouija
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board. Were you part of that at all?
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No, I wasn't part of them. We've done it
on our own before.
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The Ouija board? Mm -hmm.
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Amy tells you, you got something going
on here and you guys are causing a lot
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it because of all the CBP stuff and all
the stuff you're doing. Are you going to
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continue doing it?
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Yeah, probably.
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I don't think I could stop.
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You sound like a drug addict.
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I'm a spirit drug addict, I guess,
because I like talking to them. That's
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junkies talk. I enjoy talking with them.
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I just saw a sale.
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I'm hearing a thong.
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Witches gather in Black Massive.
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Not good.
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Not be the place for that.
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What?
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You've got... No.
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Like, no.
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Why? What would happen?
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It's... The energy is too chaotic to get
clear information or to perform clear
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ritual or anything of that nature here.
It's not okay.
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I mean, would it be dangerous?
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Hell yeah.
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It's going to go bad.
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My first lead in the case is a no
-brainer.
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Dana says her building used to be a
crematorium.
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So I'm on my way to meet a local
historian who did some digging and says
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the bodies which came through there have
a tragic story I'm going to need to
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know about.
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Well, James, thanks for helping me out.
I appreciate it. I know my client's
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building was a crematorium at some
point. What do you know about it?
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Well, it doesn't become a funeral home
until 1995, when the Reverend Charles
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Evans II bought the property, and then
he turned it into a funeral home and
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crematorium. Served as that for the next
20 years. Here's a picture of the
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crematorium.
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All right, so for 20 years, we have
bodies coming and going from here. Yeah,
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lot of people came in through those
doors, both alive and dead.
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On the phone, you said there was a
tragedy.
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that was connected to the funeral part.
What was that all about?
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That was Anthony Lee Williams. He was a
51 -year -old who was a local track
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coach, but he was also going through a
divorce at that time, and he and his
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had a 10 -year -old son named Hussan.
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Really cute.
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All right, so listen.
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I know divorce is tough. I've improved
myself.
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What went wrong? Well, on June 2, 2011,
Anthony made an unplanned pickup of his
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son from a friend's house. Then later,
he made a call to his wife in which he
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said that they were going to leave and
live a better life somewhere else.
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All right, so now he's got the kid. What
happens next? The next morning, a local
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security guard who's working in a local
peach orchards saw a car parked in a
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strange way.
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He then called the police. They arrived
and identified Anthony Williams as the
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victim in the front of his feet. He had
committed suicide by shooting himself in
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the head.
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Okay, so...
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I hate to even ask, but what about the
kid? Sadly, the kid was in the backseat
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also with a gunshot wound to the head.
He'd been killed by his father.
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It was a shocking thing in the
community, as seen here by the article.
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So his idea of him and his son leading a
better life was murder -suicide.
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All right, so I know it has something to
do with the funeral, Paula. Did they go
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there for processing? They weren't
there, and they were processing.
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Eventually, his son himself had his own
funeral there.
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Okay, so both bodies went there to be
embalmed? Yep. And when you said this
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a tragic story, you weren't kidding.
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No.
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I'm seeing like a little boy, between
five and eight years of age, brown,
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hair. He's nicely dressed, but old
-fashioned, like 1950s.
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But it's not really a little boy.
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That's just how this thing is showing
itself.
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But then he turned into this.
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thing that just came at me and it was
looked like a
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like a praying mantis and I knew that it
was evil and
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then it went back into this boy or he's
got everybody fooled that they think he
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is really this child and he looks at me
and he's got these black eyes
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I'm wondering, like, what is he? Is he
like a shapeshifter? Is he like a demon?
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So I would lean more towards, like,
demon -type things.
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So I just got a call from a local
author. He found another murder to
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right down the street from Dana's shop.
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Says this one involves madness,
jealousy, and revenge.
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So, David, thanks for helping me out. I
appreciate it. So before we get to the
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actual murder, what do we know about the
victim? The victim's name is Harry
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Terry, and he was a 45 -year -old farm
laborer in the Modesto area.
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He had a real bad anger problem. He had
a real bad jealousy problem.
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He was known as Terrible Terry in the
neighborhood and among the cops.
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Okay. All right, so this sounds like a
real great guy here. I'm sure he had a
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rap sheet. Oh, he had a rap sheet. He
was in and out of the local jails, but
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did three terms.
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in Folsom Prison.
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One of his mug shots.
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What was he in prison for? Do we have
any idea?
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Attempted murder each time and with
assaults and things like that. The last
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he was in prison was for assaulting his
wife, Clara.
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Okay, so this guy has a history of
violence.
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How did Mr. Happy here become a victim?
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Well, on October 16th, 1931, he came
home from working out in the fields and
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found his wife with a neighbor.
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He invited her over to eat some fresh
strawberries that he had.
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Harry went ballistic. He threatened to
cut her damn throat.
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So Clara ran to the police station and
told the cops that her husband was on a
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rampage and was going to kill her.
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So what happened after that?
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Well, Terry's running around the
neighborhood looking for her, and he
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Clara's brother,
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Philip Cowie.
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Words are exchanged, knives were pulled,
and Terry gets a knife right in the
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chest. Right in the heart. He was dead
before he hit the ground.
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Okay. Any idea how far this is from my
client's property?
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About 500 feet.
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I got to assume they arrest Phillip.
Yeah, right away.
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He confessed to the crime, but he said
it was to save his sister.
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All right, so this guy confesses. Does
he wind up pleading out, or does he go
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trial? He goes to trial.
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The jury deliberated for 11 minutes,
came back with him not guilty.
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Okay. Modesto was a safer place after
Harry Terry died. Oh, without a doubt.
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This demon child is a big problem.
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He's about the violence.
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Like, if you have anger inside of you,
he wants to bring out
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the act of violence.
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And this is something, you know, he's
done over a long amount of time.
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And is this child just here in this
location?
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No, he can go all over.
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Any examples of what he's done?
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I'm getting, I believe, a shooting.
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There's a lot of physical violence due
to him.
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And we'll help if we can.
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So far, I have a client worried sick
about the safety of her employees and
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customers in a building that was once a
funeral parlor and a crematorium.
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But I want to see if there's anything
else.
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According to old records, I find a
gruesome suicide that happened at the
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Hotel right down the street from Dana's
business.
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So I'm meeting a local journalist here
who says in this case, the perp was an
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upstanding businessman who just snapped.
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Well, Claire, thanks for meeting with
me. I appreciate it. All right. So
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we get to what happened, what can you
tell me about the people that are
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involved? It involved a married couple
named Andrew and Marie Thornton.
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He was a prominent local businessman. He
was 30 years old.
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And he himself had built a successful
string of shops, and he was really well
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-known and respected in Modesto.
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By all appearances, they seemed to be a
model couple in town.
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All right, so Claire, how does the Mace
Hotel come into the picture here? Well,
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in 1909, Marie starts managing the
hotel.
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Okay. And by 1910, she and Andrew are in
it together. He has joined her
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in the business, and they buy it.
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So they're rich. They seem to be happy.
But when did things go wrong?
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It was about four years into their
marriage when Andrew snapped.
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All right. So let's get to it. What
happened? Well, Friday, December 30th of
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1910 started out as a normal day for the
two of them. Andrew ran an errand to
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the post office and Marie was busy
changing over rooms. But Andrew came
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he was a completely different person.
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He was basically insane with rage.
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He grabbed a 12 -inch butcher knife from
the pantry, and he searched the hotel
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until he found Marie in an upstairs
room, and he started stabbing her.
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All right, I can only imagine what was
going through this woman's head. I mean,
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one minute everything's fine, next
minute he's trying to kill her. Oh,
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She'd been hacked and stabbed all over
her torso and her head. One of her
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fingers had been completely cut off.
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All right, so what happened to him?
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Andrew flees. He...
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locks himself in his own bedroom.
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And when the police get there, they
actually have to break the door down in
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order to get to him. And there they find
that he has turned the knife on himself
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and flashed his own throat from ear to
ear.
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Okay. Let me get this straight. The guy
tries to kill his wife out of nowhere.
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He locks himself in a room, cops break
open the door, and he's there in a
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mess. Why? The cops had the same
question.
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was not able to physically answer. He
had almost decapitated himself, and he
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died moments later.
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The tall man that's here creeps me out.
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There's some kind of association with
him and either this
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location or this land.
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I keep seeing like an office, like I'm
standing more in an office.
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Do you have any idea when he lived?
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He's having a hard time with years.
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I said 1950s, no, 1850s, no. I said
1930s, maybe.
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Like I almost was going to say, oh, he
had a lot of businesses or he owned a
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lot. But no, it's like very specific.
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His fingers in a lot of things.
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You know, he was pretty well known.
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Do you have any idea how he died?
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Oh, that's interesting.
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That's where I was asking him.
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Were you still alive then? And he got
all jumbled up.
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So I'm almost wondering if something was
wrong with him, with his brain.
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All right, so what happened to Marie?
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They rushed her to the hospital and
actually chose not to tell her until the
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next day that her husband had killed
himself.
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They didn't want that additional shock
to create even more harm for her.
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All right, so does she live?
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Yep, she lives, and she does recover
physically.
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Emotionally, it's much harder to say.
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I'm seeing the crying woman again, and
she looks a mess physically.
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It looked to me like her face had been,
like, smashed
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in.
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Also, her left arm, I think it was her
left arm, was off, too.
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I feel like she was murdered.
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I saw several disturbing things on my
walk, but two have me the most
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First, the demon child.
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He had like pitch black eyes, evil kind
of mischief kind of look.
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Next, I described the tall man.
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Basically, his features were very odd.
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He had dark eyes, relatively thick
eyebrows, a long face.
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He was pale.
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Could you just make him, like, taller
and thinner?
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Okay.
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Amy, is this what you saw?
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Yes, that's what I saw.
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Now that Amy and I have completed our
investigations, we're ready to reveal
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findings to each other and our clients
for the first time.
468
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,600
So guys, I'd like you to meet Amy.
469
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:16,020
Now, this walk was so physically hard on
her that she asked us to move the
470
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:17,240
reveal here to your home.
471
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,220
And she's in one of your bedrooms.
472
00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:24,440
Amy, meet Dana. She owns the building
you did the walk in. This is Michelle
473
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,440
this is Ava.
474
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,800
They're both employees of Dana.
475
00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:31,960
I don't know if you realize it, but...
You'll walk into a costume shop.
476
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Wow. This shop is very close to Dana's
heart, but activity is bad and she
477
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,840
doesn't know if it's safe for her
customers or her employees.
478
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,400
And that's why she called us in.
479
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,280
So unless Amy's got some questions for
you guys, she'll describe her walk for
480
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,280
us.
481
00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:54,580
This was one of the most draining walks
I've ever done and stressful walk
482
00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:56,640
probably in the last 10 years.
483
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,120
One of the reasons for this.
484
00:29:00,970 --> 00:29:04,070
is that there's an excessive amount of
residual energy.
485
00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:10,730
There was an immense amount of hearing
people walking back and forth, people
486
00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:16,450
talking. The energy there is extremely
thick.
487
00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:22,310
I'm worried about obviously living
there, being exposed to that kind of
488
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:27,030
on a consistent basis, making them
extremely lethargic and burning.
489
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:30,370
And also there is that stress.
490
00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:35,450
There's one spot in particular that I
feel sadness at.
491
00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:38,430
And I've had mood changes with the
sadness.
492
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:41,510
Ava, you told me you had mood changes as
well, right? Yeah.
493
00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:45,030
It's very, like, overwhelming sadness
where one time I had to leave the
494
00:29:45,030 --> 00:29:48,930
building. You know, Amy, I'm not
surprised you got a ton of residual
495
00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:52,770
1995, the building was turned into the
Evans Funeral Home.
496
00:29:53,730 --> 00:29:57,830
Oh. This is what the shop looked like
when it was the funeral home.
497
00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:02,190
And that's what the place was for the
next 20 years.
498
00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:06,290
I mean, they held funeral services
there. They even had a crematorium in
499
00:30:06,290 --> 00:30:10,510
back. There's still some stains on the
ceiling from the human remains from the
500
00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:14,190
cremations. So if you see the top of it,
that's all the soot up on the top
501
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:15,190
there.
502
00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,650
Ah, very interesting.
503
00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:23,530
All right, so what else?
504
00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:29,210
At one point during my walk, I saw that
there had been a seance there.
505
00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:35,890
I could hear a song, something about
witches gathering in black masses.
506
00:30:36,410 --> 00:30:42,090
With all of the residual energy that's
there and everything else, this is
507
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:45,850
absolutely not the place for anybody to
do that.
508
00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:53,560
So I'm very concerned about that. This
could be obviously very dangerous for
509
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,600
living and the dead.
510
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:58,660
Oh, guys, I told you this might happen,
right? Right. Yeah.
511
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,760
So Dana has been letting paranormal
groups walk the store.
512
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,860
Now these two, Michelle and Ava, they
talk to the dead every day with EVPs and
513
00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:10,040
stuff. You've even used Ouija boards.
514
00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:16,620
Yeah, I enjoy talking to them because we
get intelligent responses.
515
00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,790
When I talked to Michelle here, she said
that regardless of what your
516
00:31:20,790 --> 00:31:24,270
suggestions are, she's not going to stop
talking to the dead no matter what.
517
00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:28,810
I talked to the dead.
518
00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:32,090
Just be aware of who you're really
talking to.
519
00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:35,070
Right. There's a lot going on up over
there.
520
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:36,310
Yeah.
521
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:39,230
Okay, so what else?
522
00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:42,010
I encountered a little boy.
523
00:31:42,770 --> 00:31:45,390
I would put him five to eight years of
age.
524
00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:52,830
As soon as I encountered him, he changed
form into a really big black,
525
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:55,410
like, praying mantis kind of thing.
526
00:31:55,970 --> 00:31:58,890
That's when I realized this wasn't a
little boy at all.
527
00:31:59,350 --> 00:32:05,890
I figured out that he's some kind of low
-level, like, demon. His whole thing is
528
00:32:05,890 --> 00:32:12,810
if someone is prone to anger, his job,
his duty is to make
529
00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:13,810
that person.
530
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,640
act out in a violent way.
531
00:32:15,940 --> 00:32:22,700
And I saw him influencing people to
fight, to shoot another person. I felt
532
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:27,940
he could be starting to influence
somebody who does work there.
533
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,480
Any of you guys feel like you're on the
brink?
534
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
No. Me, I do sometimes.
535
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Interesting.
536
00:32:36,980 --> 00:32:41,240
So, you know, I found a lot of murders
around Dana's business, and with a five
537
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,590
-mile radius, I mean, forget about it.
It could be like Brooklyn in the 80s.
538
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:46,470
Right. One case stood out.
539
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:50,550
51 -year -old Anthony Williams was the
father of a 10 -year -old boy named
540
00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:53,370
Hassan. Here's a picture of this little
boy. He's really cute.
541
00:32:56,190 --> 00:32:59,470
This guy, Anthony, was going through a
messy divorce.
542
00:32:59,990 --> 00:33:05,730
So on June 2, 2011, this creep kidnaps
Hassan, takes him out to an orchard,
543
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:07,770
one in his head, killing him, and then
he shoots himself.
544
00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:10,150
Both were instantly killed.
545
00:33:11,470 --> 00:33:17,390
Both of the bodies were taken to the old
funeral home, which is your shop, whose
546
00:33:17,390 --> 00:33:20,190
son's funeral was actually held at
Evan's funeral home.
547
00:33:24,050 --> 00:33:29,270
I've got a big place in my heart for
kids, and that hurt.
548
00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:34,530
Amy, is it possible this demon
influenced Anthony to shoot his son?
549
00:33:35,470 --> 00:33:40,810
It's highly likely, simply because he's
been functioning for a long time here.
550
00:33:41,230 --> 00:33:45,810
And I did have a sketch done of what I
saw him doing.
551
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:56,210
There's a little rat bastard, though.
552
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,650
Wow. I got chills right now.
553
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:08,969
What's even more disturbing for you, you
know, the way you feel about kids.
554
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,900
Yeah, I've adopted three kids.
555
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,580
It worries me.
556
00:34:14,940 --> 00:34:16,020
What else we got?
557
00:34:16,820 --> 00:34:20,320
One of my biggest concerns is this male
that I encountered.
558
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080
He's very tall and very thin.
559
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,780
I got that he had some association with
the location or the land around it.
560
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:35,699
I did gather that he had his fingers in
a lot of different things and that he
561
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:36,820
was well -known in the area.
562
00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:44,739
So jumbled up with numbers in
particular, I thought maybe he had died
563
00:34:44,739 --> 00:34:46,580
cancer or had dementia.
564
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,060
A couple of things you're saying is
making me think of a guy named Andrew
565
00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:54,540
Sorensen. Now, you said this guy had his
hand in a lot of things and was well
566
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:58,980
-known in the area. Well, Andrew was a
very successful businessman, and him and
567
00:34:58,980 --> 00:34:59,980
his wife seemed to have it all.
568
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,740
In 1910, he and Marie bought and ran the
Mace Hotel, which was just down the
569
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:05,740
street from your store.
570
00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:09,710
On December 30th of that year, Andrew
Sorensen lost his mind.
571
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:16,190
So he pulls out a 12 -inch butcher knife
and goes after Marie and starts
572
00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:18,050
stabbing her and hacking her.
573
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:21,830
I mean, it was so bad, one of her
fingers got cut off. That's a defense
574
00:35:21,930 --> 00:35:24,990
you know, probably grabbing a knife and
losing her finger.
575
00:35:25,890 --> 00:35:30,610
Now, Andrew ran into another bedroom,
and that's where he slashed his own neck
576
00:35:30,610 --> 00:35:34,290
and cut himself from ear to ear,
practically almost beheaded himself.
577
00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:39,280
Geez. Now, amazingly, believe it or not,
with all the wounds to Marie, she
578
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,280
actually survived.
579
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:42,020
You mentioned that the guy was tall.
580
00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:44,160
Right. Anything else on what he looked
like?
581
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,420
Well, I did have a sketch done of what I
saw.
582
00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:50,340
This should be interesting.
583
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,300
Dana should look at that one. Yeah.
Yeah.
584
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:05,710
That's him.
585
00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:12,810
I've seen this tall man standing, and he
had a suit on.
586
00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:15,310
That's the crazy thing, is he had a suit
on.
587
00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:20,150
Well, I'm a little freaked out about the
guy that was in the bathroom with me.
588
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:22,170
That's his office area.
589
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:27,690
Ah. So, now, Ava, you described to me
like a heavy presence.
590
00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:31,830
A few different times, but one in
particular, I was by myself. I thought
591
00:36:31,830 --> 00:36:33,110
somebody was actually in the building.
592
00:36:33,550 --> 00:36:37,970
I heard the footsteps, and I turned
around, but there was nobody there.
593
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:40,010
Do we think that's all this guy?
594
00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:41,730
Yeah.
595
00:36:44,830 --> 00:36:46,690
I'm a little nauseous right now,
honestly.
596
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:49,430
You said you were really worried about
this guy, Amy.
597
00:36:49,890 --> 00:36:50,890
How come?
598
00:36:51,010 --> 00:36:55,590
He's got anger problems during the walk.
It's like putting his hand on my
599
00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:56,590
shoulder.
600
00:36:56,950 --> 00:37:00,750
Then he was, like, putting his arm
around my waist. And every time he would
601
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:02,010
touch me, like...
602
00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:03,550
massive anxiety.
603
00:37:03,970 --> 00:37:06,050
You mentioned customers getting touched,
right?
604
00:37:06,270 --> 00:37:09,750
Yes, yes. We've had a few customers
touch, things thrown,
605
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:12,870
hair pulled, butts touched.
606
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:20,110
The thing here that I'm worried about is
that he easily makes attachments to
607
00:37:20,110 --> 00:37:20,928
living people.
608
00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:26,050
So my worry is him coming home with
people and then assaulting them in their
609
00:37:26,050 --> 00:37:29,470
home. So I'm very nervous about this
person.
610
00:37:29,890 --> 00:37:30,890
Honestly,
611
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,560
And it's not something I've told
anybody.
612
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,920
I wake up a night choking, and it kind
of scared me.
613
00:37:38,740 --> 00:37:40,600
Have you guys had any problems at home?
614
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:44,160
Yeah, I have. I know something came home
with me.
615
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:50,080
Why? Just felt it. I just felt like I
wasn't alone when I walked in the door
616
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,080
whole night.
617
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,140
And then I just kept saying, go back to
the store. That's where you have to be.
618
00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:57,220
This is my home.
619
00:37:57,700 --> 00:37:58,700
How about you?
620
00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:03,440
One night there was like a dark presence
in the bedroom and I felt like
621
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,920
something set down on the bed.
622
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,040
So is it possible that he's going home
to old tree homes? Well, it's a
623
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,980
possibility. This is something that, you
know, people have a hard time with is
624
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:14,780
that he can be in multiple places
simultaneously.
625
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,780
He's, you know, pissed.
626
00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:21,820
I'm just, I'm a little overwhelmed right
now.
627
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,040
I didn't expect it like this. I don't
even know how to put into words what I'm
628
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,040
feeling.
629
00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:49,190
So ladies, when we met, you were kind of
laughing off some of the activity in
630
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:50,190
the store.
631
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:52,830
But I think it's become clear we've got
a problem.
632
00:38:53,310 --> 00:38:56,890
Now the question is, can you fix it? And
if so, what's it going to take?
633
00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:58,770
For that answer, I'm going to turn it
over to Anne.
634
00:39:02,190 --> 00:39:09,190
So the first thing that needs to be done
is the removal of the demon child
635
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:10,190
thing.
636
00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:13,750
What you will need specifically for this
is...
637
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,960
a holy person from a Christian -based
religion to be able to counteract
638
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:27,940
the kind of evil that that little thing
is creating. So once he's exercised
639
00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:34,820
and removed, then a male medium needs to
come in and first
640
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:37,580
deal with the male in the suit.
641
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,300
He needs to be removed.
642
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,780
And then the removal of the residual
energy.
643
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:53,640
And then once that's been done, you guys
get to clean the place from top to
644
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,320
bottom. Try to make it as happy and as
much of a positive experience as
645
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,800
possible. Turn it into like a whole
overnight, you know, lumber party
646
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,920
That's a lot of steps.
647
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:08,860
It is a lot. What are you thinking?
648
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,700
This is my heart and soul, so we're
going to follow the steps.
649
00:40:12,140 --> 00:40:15,320
We're going to see what we can do, and,
you know, I just don't want anything bad
650
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,320
there.
651
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:17,720
We're going to do it.
652
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Amy, as far as them coming in in the
store and doing EVPs, could they keep
653
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,980
that, or is that something you want it
to stop for a while? Well, for now, it
654
00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:30,120
would be best to hold off on doing those
things.
655
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,320
He's pissed.
656
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,700
So you two didn't want to stop,
regardless.
657
00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:36,320
I mean, what's your thoughts now?
658
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:39,000
No, I'm going to listen.
659
00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:40,580
Yeah.
660
00:40:41,660 --> 00:40:45,200
So, Dana, when we first spoke, you
talked about how you just want to make
661
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,980
place a safe environment and to
eventually turn it over to your kids for
662
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:49,980
take. Yes.
663
00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:51,920
How do you feel knowing that you can do
that now?
664
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:54,500
I feel good. I feel good knowing that I
can.
665
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,260
I want my baby safe.
666
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,440
Thank you so much. Thank you.
667
00:40:58,980 --> 00:40:59,980
Thank you.
668
00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:06,040
Dana and her employees have a lot of
work ahead of them. But if they contact
669
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,980
people I recommended, they can make this
a safe place to work and shop.
670
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,760
And most importantly, Dana can one day
turn the business over to her kids,
671
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:17,220
knowing they'll be able to run it
safely.
672
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:26,240
I want to thank Amy and Steve for coming
to Daydreams and Nightmares to help us
673
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:33,220
out. We've been working with mediums and
holy people for Amy's advice to remove
674
00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:38,920
the child demon and the tall man that
was here. I know there's still a lot of
675
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,920
spirits here.
676
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:43,260
And there always will be because with
this being an old funeral home.
677
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,880
But we're calm now, much calmer here.
678
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,400
And it feels lighter in the shop. And I
just know that my customers, my
679
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,260
employees, and my family are safe when
they come in. So, again, thank you, Amy
680
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:59,940
and Steve, for coming to Daydreams and
Nightmares and helping us out.
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