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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:11,870 He's the one who's in control. 2 00:00:12,730 --> 00:00:15,390 And he says, I'm the undertaker. 3 00:00:15,790 --> 00:00:19,190 The actual crematorium was right here. You can see there's still ashes. 4 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:23,530 Some groups that came in used the Ouija board. Were you part of that at all? I'm 5 00:00:23,530 --> 00:00:24,710 a spirit drug addict, I guess. 6 00:00:26,210 --> 00:00:28,370 Weird. I just saw a sail. 7 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:30,250 That's not good. 8 00:00:31,690 --> 00:00:33,470 He was dead before he hit the ground. 9 00:00:34,330 --> 00:00:38,050 He changed form into a demon. 10 00:00:40,179 --> 00:00:41,220 Very unsettling. 11 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:45,380 Oh, the dark is getting darker. 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,200 My name is Amy Allen. 13 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:49,160 I see dead people. 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,940 There is a skinwalker here. 15 00:00:51,460 --> 00:00:53,360 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,080 And they speak to me. 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,540 He wants to collect the women. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,800 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:01:01,340 --> 00:01:04,420 They're stalking the life out of these people. 20 00:01:05,060 --> 00:01:06,600 I rely on my partner. 21 00:01:06,820 --> 00:01:07,920 I'm Steve DeShop. 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,060 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 23 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:13,560 This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. And I know every person, 24 00:01:13,660 --> 00:01:16,080 every house has secrets. 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,920 It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,920 during an investigation. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,480 Until the very end. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Is that what I think it is? 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,020 Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I told you he was trying to 30 00:01:29,020 --> 00:01:30,020 kill me. 31 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:34,660 We're time to get out. You have a dead person inside too. 32 00:01:48,580 --> 00:01:51,980 So I'm out here in the city of Modesto. It's about an hour and a half east of 33 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:52,980 San Francisco. 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,480 I got a call from a woman named Dana. Now, it was her lifelong dream to open 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,359 her own business. 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,180 But now it's all gone to hell. 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,640 We come in with love, light, respect, and that's how we try to treat the 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,680 here. But we do have some that are upset. 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,920 We don't know why. 40 00:02:09,460 --> 00:02:13,240 She doesn't think the place is safe for anyone. And if we can't help her, she 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,580 told me she'll have to shut it down. 42 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:25,470 Here, the earth swallows you up. 43 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:29,030 Possibly there's a curse. 44 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:31,030 What exactly is this curse? 45 00:02:31,650 --> 00:02:38,050 Basically, it makes you feel like you're walking a plank, and if you fall off, 46 00:02:38,230 --> 00:02:40,070 you're doomed. 47 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:49,070 And it also does drag you down and make you lose your hope and your dreams. 48 00:02:54,990 --> 00:02:58,130 So, Dana, walking in this place, I felt like I was walking into one of those 49 00:02:58,130 --> 00:02:59,230 haunted houses. 50 00:02:59,590 --> 00:03:01,350 Right. Hi, how are you doing? 51 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:02,550 Got some place here. 52 00:03:02,770 --> 00:03:03,810 It's kind of crazy, huh? Yeah. 53 00:03:04,110 --> 00:03:07,270 When we spoke, you sounded like you were upset about what was going on here. 54 00:03:07,350 --> 00:03:08,269 What's happening? 55 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:11,870 I just want my customers to feel safe, and I want everybody to come in and have 56 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:15,590 a wonderful experience and not be overwhelmed with the spirits that are 57 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:17,750 Are the employees affected as well? 58 00:03:18,330 --> 00:03:21,990 Absolutely, yeah. Okay. And that's my goal. I want everybody safe in my 59 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:22,990 business. 60 00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:24,880 So what exactly is the business? 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,660 Well, we mostly rent costumes here. 62 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:31,140 Okay. So you know anything about the property's history before you bought it? 63 00:03:31,140 --> 00:03:33,340 stated that it was a funeral home and a crematorium. 64 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:34,980 Really? Yeah. 65 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,540 And you still bought the place? 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,460 I'm used to the paranormal. I've always felt stuff. 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,940 So when I came in, it was very strong. 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,040 You had a lot of dead people coming in and out of here. Yeah, with bad 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,900 situations, I'm sure, too. A lot of accidents, you know. 70 00:03:48,260 --> 00:03:49,380 You think they're still here? 71 00:03:49,740 --> 00:03:50,740 Absolutely, yeah. 72 00:03:52,330 --> 00:03:55,530 Okay, so Dana, do me a favor. Give me a list of what's going on here. 73 00:03:55,770 --> 00:03:57,150 Well, we hear voices out loud. 74 00:03:57,870 --> 00:03:59,610 We have mood changes. 75 00:04:00,750 --> 00:04:02,070 We feel like we're being watched. 76 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:05,010 And we've seen the shadow figures. 77 00:04:05,630 --> 00:04:08,710 So, Dana, with all the stuff that's going on here, have you done anything to 78 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:09,369 to fight it? 79 00:04:09,370 --> 00:04:12,710 Well, we've had paranormal groups come in. We've had mediums come in. 80 00:04:12,970 --> 00:04:15,550 Some of the paranormal groups have used Ouija boards. 81 00:04:16,130 --> 00:04:20,890 Okay, that could be a problem. Amy's always upset when people use the Ouija 82 00:04:20,890 --> 00:04:21,890 boards. 83 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,460 So, Dana, ultimately, what are you hoping we can do? 84 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:29,500 It was my dream to have my own shop and to be able to give something to my kids. 85 00:04:30,140 --> 00:04:31,140 This is my passion. 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,880 My youngest daughter doesn't even want to come in here. I just want everybody 87 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,779 be safe in here. 88 00:04:35,780 --> 00:04:36,780 That's the key. 89 00:04:40,220 --> 00:04:43,340 There's just a lot of residual energy here. 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,800 It feels really bad. 91 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:51,280 It's weird. 92 00:04:51,790 --> 00:04:54,650 Because it's very loud back here. 93 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:58,550 People walking and people talking. A lot of noise. 94 00:05:01,570 --> 00:05:04,770 It's real thick energy. It's very there. 95 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:10,670 So the living may feel like this overwhelming stress, this sense of 96 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:14,090 It's like urgent. It's bad. 97 00:05:19,650 --> 00:05:22,810 So, Dana, it's a pretty big place. Is this your storage area? 98 00:05:23,090 --> 00:05:24,650 Yeah, this is where we keep our rental costumes. 99 00:05:25,010 --> 00:05:29,090 The actual crematorium was right here. We're standing right where it is, and 100 00:05:29,090 --> 00:05:33,690 can see there's still ashes on the ceiling up there from them incinerating. 101 00:05:33,690 --> 00:05:36,690 this darker spot is where the crematorium was? Yes. 102 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:38,670 Okay. 103 00:05:38,970 --> 00:05:42,970 All right, so what's going on? I get a lot of sadness throughout the shop. 104 00:05:43,230 --> 00:05:46,670 So what happens? Does it just come on all of a sudden? It just comes on all of 105 00:05:46,670 --> 00:05:48,390 sudden. I start crying. 106 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:50,870 Is that your personality? 107 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:54,930 No, not at all. Depression at all? Nope, not at all. When I walk outside, it 108 00:05:54,930 --> 00:05:57,630 will clear up, and then if I go back to the spot, sometimes it will come on 109 00:05:57,630 --> 00:05:58,930 again. It's got to be frustrating. 110 00:05:59,170 --> 00:06:00,390 It is. It is frustrating. 111 00:06:00,930 --> 00:06:02,030 Okay, so anything else? 112 00:06:02,370 --> 00:06:03,770 I get heaviness on my chest. 113 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:07,270 It's like a weight of an elephant on you. 114 00:06:07,490 --> 00:06:09,210 Do you have any respiratory problems? 115 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:11,270 I do have asthma, but it's not that. 116 00:06:11,670 --> 00:06:13,050 All right, so anything else? 117 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:15,810 I see shadow figures throughout the building. 118 00:06:16,130 --> 00:06:17,130 How often? 119 00:06:17,490 --> 00:06:18,490 Every day. 120 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:22,910 So the shadow figures you are seeing, can you describe one of them? Just a 121 00:06:22,910 --> 00:06:26,690 of a body. I mean, just the form of a body walking through, and you'll see it 122 00:06:26,690 --> 00:06:27,449 the wall. 123 00:06:27,450 --> 00:06:28,570 All right, so anything else? 124 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:33,550 So I've had several customers that have seen a woman with blonde hair, a white 125 00:06:33,550 --> 00:06:36,650 woman. I mean, could it be somebody messing around with all those wigs you 126 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:39,150 No, because we have security cameras all around. 127 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:42,530 So obviously you've got a lot of stuff going on here, and I can see why you'd 128 00:06:42,530 --> 00:06:45,150 concerned about it. Yeah, I've got a lot of stuff going on here. 129 00:06:48,270 --> 00:06:49,690 I'm seeing a woman. 130 00:06:52,210 --> 00:06:55,550 She is crying a lot. 131 00:06:56,190 --> 00:06:59,210 And then she was holding me, which also bothered me. 132 00:06:59,770 --> 00:07:01,510 Does she have any interaction with the living? 133 00:07:01,990 --> 00:07:04,150 She can attach if she wants to. 134 00:07:06,610 --> 00:07:10,190 Are you surprised if they haven't seen her full apparition? 135 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:16,510 Okay, so what's going on here? 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,680 So we close at 6 o 'clock, and I feel like something just wants me out of the 137 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,540 building. So what's it feel like to you? Explain it. It's like I can't get out 138 00:07:23,540 --> 00:07:26,760 the door fast enough. It's like I'm trying to set the alarm, and just like a 139 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,000 heaviness coming towards me. 140 00:07:28,380 --> 00:07:29,420 All right, so anything else? 141 00:07:29,860 --> 00:07:31,420 We've had physical attacks. 142 00:07:32,020 --> 00:07:34,340 I've had a medium that came in here and was scratched. 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,860 Okay. And customers that were touched. 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,780 Okay, so that's not good. So with all the stuff going on here, do you think 145 00:07:40,780 --> 00:07:42,860 connected to the crematorium and the funeral hall? 146 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:44,219 I do. 147 00:07:44,220 --> 00:07:47,920 I do, because I feel that there were so many people that came in here with 148 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,920 tragic deaths. 149 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:52,160 You know, all the stuff we talked about is pretty intense. 150 00:07:52,780 --> 00:07:57,280 You seem a little laid back about it. Is that a shield, or are you just not 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,520 realizing what's going on here? 152 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,760 I think it's more of a shield. 153 00:08:00,340 --> 00:08:04,320 I'm pretty jaded from all the stuff I've seen and that this happened around me. 154 00:08:04,820 --> 00:08:08,740 So I think I just put up this front like, oh, it doesn't bother me. 155 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,660 One of your staff members got hurt, or even a customer got hurt. 156 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,920 You know, from the paranormal here. How would you have felt about that? 157 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:20,460 I won't deal with that well. This is my family here. 158 00:08:20,820 --> 00:08:24,560 My employees are family. If there's anything evil here, I want it gone. 159 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,440 I see this man. 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,140 He was nine feet tall. 161 00:08:35,980 --> 00:08:39,919 And, like, thin as, like, just super thin. 162 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,039 He's wearing a suit, and he... 163 00:08:43,370 --> 00:08:45,730 Leans, like, because he's kind of in the wall. 164 00:08:46,090 --> 00:08:51,610 And he leans out of the wall and he says, I'm the undertaker. And then he 165 00:08:51,730 --> 00:08:52,730 I'm the doctor. 166 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:59,130 The tall man kept touching me. 167 00:09:00,350 --> 00:09:05,750 And any time he would touch me, I was feeling like being drained. 168 00:09:06,650 --> 00:09:09,510 And also like I was about to have an anxiety attack. 169 00:09:09,890 --> 00:09:11,290 I believe the living. 170 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:13,940 would experience that here as well. 171 00:09:14,580 --> 00:09:15,920 He can travel. 172 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,720 He forms attachments very quickly with the living. 173 00:09:21,380 --> 00:09:22,860 Very unsettling. 174 00:09:47,439 --> 00:09:49,760 So, Michelle, I understand you work at the shop here. 175 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:52,080 Yes, I do. Okay, how many days a week are you here? 176 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Five days a week. 177 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,460 Okay, so Daniel was telling me that some of the employees are kind of afraid to 178 00:09:57,460 --> 00:09:58,460 work here. 179 00:09:58,660 --> 00:10:00,720 What about you? I'm kind of into it. 180 00:10:01,020 --> 00:10:02,640 I like to do the EVPs. 181 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,660 Okay. Since you're into it, have you had any experiences while you've been here? 182 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,860 Yes. When I first came into the shop, I heard a woman moan. 183 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,740 Can you tell the age of the woman? 184 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,840 It sounded like an older lady. 185 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Okay, you got a lot of stuff here. Any gadgets that can make those noises? You 186 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,660 know, like playing with the customers when they walk in, something like that. 187 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,720 Oh, no, no, no. 188 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:25,040 Okay, so anything else? 189 00:10:25,380 --> 00:10:27,340 When I was in the crematorium room. 190 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:28,539 Okay, what happened? 191 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:32,780 When I first walked in there, I felt okay, and then it just felt like I was 192 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:36,020 walking through a bunch of spiderwebs. You sure there was no spiderweb that you 193 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:37,160 just kind of maybe fell? 194 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,560 Oh, I'm positive because it turned on the light to look. 195 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,580 So when this happened, were you doing those EVPs you do? 196 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Yeah. Was it possible that the... 197 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,460 The dead are irritated by you doing the EVPs? What do you think? 198 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 It's possible. 199 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:58,260 I'm curious if Amy would say, listen, what the EVPs are doing is antagonizing 200 00:10:58,260 --> 00:11:00,960 the dead and they want, you know, it's not a good thing. That's what's causing 201 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,040 all the paranormal activity. 202 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,320 I mean, would you stop? 203 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,320 No. 204 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,200 All right. What else? Anything? 205 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,220 I was sitting in the bathroom, and I was just talking away to spirits, trying to 206 00:11:15,220 --> 00:11:20,800 do an EVP. And all of a sudden, it got so dark where you couldn't even see my 207 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:26,840 hand. This huge, huge mass came up from behind me. How big of a mass do you 208 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:27,639 think this was? 209 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,440 It was probably about at least 7, 8 feet tall. 210 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:31,680 What did you do? 211 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:34,400 I got up, and I ran out of the bathroom. 212 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:36,940 Do you think that whatever's here could be dangerous? 213 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Yeah, I think it might be a little threatening. 214 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:40,700 Okay. 215 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:52,520 So this is a tall man. I do believe that he's been seen. People more than 216 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:58,480 likely would see a very tall, thinner, like shadow person. 217 00:11:58,780 --> 00:12:01,480 He's the one who's in control. That's what he said. 218 00:12:04,220 --> 00:12:10,140 I don't think he cares much for what's going on with 219 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:14,580 everything here. Saying it's grotesque, unsightly. 220 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:23,080 He is unhappy. He moves a lot through the walls and that 221 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,700 he can leave and he can come back. 222 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:31,660 I think the living here would feel with him like they're being watched. 223 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,000 He can make physical contact. 224 00:12:34,340 --> 00:12:35,340 He can touch people. 225 00:12:36,060 --> 00:12:42,180 So people would feel his hands on them. And his hands are very big. I do believe 226 00:12:42,180 --> 00:12:45,080 he has an attachment to one of the people who own this place. 227 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,660 She's like, I'm not always aggressive, but when I have to be, I'll be 228 00:12:48,660 --> 00:12:49,660 aggressive. 229 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,980 So, Ava, I understand that you helped Dana open up this place. Yes. 230 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,500 Have you had experiences? 231 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,880 I hear voices. 232 00:13:03,780 --> 00:13:07,180 Okay. Can you describe some of the voices you hear? A little kid will say, 233 00:13:07,180 --> 00:13:08,180 hi in the corner. 234 00:13:08,460 --> 00:13:11,980 There's a lady that always says hello, like she was trying to join our 235 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:13,580 conversation. What else? 236 00:13:15,380 --> 00:13:16,380 Sadness. Overwhelming. 237 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:19,060 Okay. Now, Dana told me she has the same issue. 238 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,740 Yeah. I'll ask you, though. Do you suffer from depression at all or 239 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:23,559 like that? 240 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:25,740 I felt like I was feeling whatever they were feeling. 241 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:26,719 The dead? 242 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,579 Mm -hmm. 243 00:13:27,580 --> 00:13:28,580 Okay. Anything else? 244 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:33,480 I had an experience downstairs where I felt like somebody was behind me, and I 245 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,940 turned around, and there was nobody there. 246 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,700 Okay. So it was a presence that you felt. Like an actual presence, yeah. Was 247 00:13:38,700 --> 00:13:39,740 anybody in the store? No. 248 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,120 I was alone. 249 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,380 When I'm by myself, they mess with me. Okay. 250 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,620 You know, when I walked in here, this place is kind of creepy. I mean, you got 251 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:49,680 stuff all over the place. It is, yeah. So you sure you saw something or maybe 252 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:51,680 you might have freaked yourself out? Is that possible? 253 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:53,580 I don't think so. I love it. 254 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,140 Michelle told me she does the EVP things here in the store almost every day. 255 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,160 Yeah. Do you do that? Dana told me that some groups that came in used the Ouija 256 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,480 board. Were you part of that at all? 257 00:14:07,140 --> 00:14:10,580 No, I wasn't part of them. We've done it on our own before. 258 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,160 The Ouija board? Mm -hmm. 259 00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:17,310 Amy tells you, you got something going on here and you guys are causing a lot 260 00:14:17,310 --> 00:14:20,370 it because of all the CBP stuff and all the stuff you're doing. Are you going to 261 00:14:20,370 --> 00:14:21,370 continue doing it? 262 00:14:22,170 --> 00:14:23,170 Yeah, probably. 263 00:14:25,570 --> 00:14:26,710 I don't think I could stop. 264 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:28,950 You sound like a drug addict. 265 00:14:29,230 --> 00:14:32,450 I'm a spirit drug addict, I guess, because I like talking to them. That's 266 00:14:32,450 --> 00:14:35,770 junkies talk. I enjoy talking with them. 267 00:14:40,670 --> 00:14:41,870 I just saw a sale. 268 00:14:43,150 --> 00:14:44,310 I'm hearing a thong. 269 00:14:44,930 --> 00:14:47,010 Witches gather in Black Massive. 270 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:48,670 Not good. 271 00:14:49,010 --> 00:14:50,410 Not be the place for that. 272 00:14:51,290 --> 00:14:52,290 What? 273 00:14:53,610 --> 00:14:54,990 You've got... No. 274 00:14:55,430 --> 00:14:56,430 Like, no. 275 00:14:56,570 --> 00:14:57,570 Why? What would happen? 276 00:14:58,070 --> 00:15:03,910 It's... The energy is too chaotic to get clear information or to perform clear 277 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:07,270 ritual or anything of that nature here. It's not okay. 278 00:15:09,610 --> 00:15:11,410 I mean, would it be dangerous? 279 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:12,910 Hell yeah. 280 00:15:14,030 --> 00:15:15,030 It's going to go bad. 281 00:15:27,870 --> 00:15:30,090 My first lead in the case is a no -brainer. 282 00:15:30,350 --> 00:15:32,890 Dana says her building used to be a crematorium. 283 00:15:33,270 --> 00:15:37,650 So I'm on my way to meet a local historian who did some digging and says 284 00:15:37,650 --> 00:15:41,170 the bodies which came through there have a tragic story I'm going to need to 285 00:15:41,170 --> 00:15:42,170 know about. 286 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,460 Well, James, thanks for helping me out. I appreciate it. I know my client's 287 00:15:52,460 --> 00:15:55,680 building was a crematorium at some point. What do you know about it? 288 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,440 Well, it doesn't become a funeral home until 1995, when the Reverend Charles 289 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,320 Evans II bought the property, and then he turned it into a funeral home and 290 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,620 crematorium. Served as that for the next 20 years. Here's a picture of the 291 00:16:06,620 --> 00:16:07,620 crematorium. 292 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,940 All right, so for 20 years, we have bodies coming and going from here. Yeah, 293 00:16:10,940 --> 00:16:13,240 lot of people came in through those doors, both alive and dead. 294 00:16:13,660 --> 00:16:15,880 On the phone, you said there was a tragedy. 295 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,620 that was connected to the funeral part. What was that all about? 296 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,740 That was Anthony Lee Williams. He was a 51 -year -old who was a local track 297 00:16:23,740 --> 00:16:27,620 coach, but he was also going through a divorce at that time, and he and his 298 00:16:27,620 --> 00:16:29,200 had a 10 -year -old son named Hussan. 299 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Really cute. 300 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,580 All right, so listen. 301 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,600 I know divorce is tough. I've improved myself. 302 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,080 What went wrong? Well, on June 2, 2011, Anthony made an unplanned pickup of his 303 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,200 son from a friend's house. Then later, he made a call to his wife in which he 304 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,160 said that they were going to leave and live a better life somewhere else. 305 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,720 All right, so now he's got the kid. What happens next? The next morning, a local 306 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,100 security guard who's working in a local peach orchards saw a car parked in a 307 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:53,999 strange way. 308 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,140 He then called the police. They arrived and identified Anthony Williams as the 309 00:16:58,140 --> 00:17:01,400 victim in the front of his feet. He had committed suicide by shooting himself in 310 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:01,919 the head. 311 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,920 Okay, so... 312 00:17:03,619 --> 00:17:07,020 I hate to even ask, but what about the kid? Sadly, the kid was in the backseat 313 00:17:07,020 --> 00:17:09,599 also with a gunshot wound to the head. He'd been killed by his father. 314 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,079 It was a shocking thing in the community, as seen here by the article. 315 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,839 So his idea of him and his son leading a better life was murder -suicide. 316 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:23,560 All right, so I know it has something to do with the funeral, Paula. Did they go 317 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,500 there for processing? They weren't there, and they were processing. 318 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,420 Eventually, his son himself had his own funeral there. 319 00:17:30,419 --> 00:17:34,540 Okay, so both bodies went there to be embalmed? Yep. And when you said this 320 00:17:34,540 --> 00:17:35,740 a tragic story, you weren't kidding. 321 00:17:35,980 --> 00:17:36,980 No. 322 00:17:38,940 --> 00:17:44,340 I'm seeing like a little boy, between five and eight years of age, brown, 323 00:17:44,340 --> 00:17:49,640 hair. He's nicely dressed, but old -fashioned, like 1950s. 324 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,940 But it's not really a little boy. 325 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,000 That's just how this thing is showing itself. 326 00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:58,300 But then he turned into this. 327 00:18:00,170 --> 00:18:06,630 thing that just came at me and it was looked like a 328 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:13,150 like a praying mantis and I knew that it was evil and 329 00:18:13,150 --> 00:18:18,830 then it went back into this boy or he's got everybody fooled that they think he 330 00:18:18,830 --> 00:18:22,570 is really this child and he looks at me and he's got these black eyes 331 00:18:25,420 --> 00:18:29,380 I'm wondering, like, what is he? Is he like a shapeshifter? Is he like a demon? 332 00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:34,560 So I would lean more towards, like, demon -type things. 333 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:43,900 So I just got a call from a local author. He found another murder to 334 00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:45,580 right down the street from Dana's shop. 335 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Says this one involves madness, jealousy, and revenge. 336 00:18:55,980 --> 00:18:59,100 So, David, thanks for helping me out. I appreciate it. So before we get to the 337 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:02,160 actual murder, what do we know about the victim? The victim's name is Harry 338 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Terry, and he was a 45 -year -old farm laborer in the Modesto area. 339 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:11,440 He had a real bad anger problem. He had a real bad jealousy problem. 340 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,620 He was known as Terrible Terry in the neighborhood and among the cops. 341 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Okay. All right, so this sounds like a real great guy here. I'm sure he had a 342 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,500 rap sheet. Oh, he had a rap sheet. He was in and out of the local jails, but 343 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:24,500 did three terms. 344 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:25,930 in Folsom Prison. 345 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:27,670 One of his mug shots. 346 00:19:28,650 --> 00:19:30,850 What was he in prison for? Do we have any idea? 347 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:35,970 Attempted murder each time and with assaults and things like that. The last 348 00:19:35,970 --> 00:19:39,310 he was in prison was for assaulting his wife, Clara. 349 00:19:39,610 --> 00:19:42,890 Okay, so this guy has a history of violence. 350 00:19:43,150 --> 00:19:44,910 How did Mr. Happy here become a victim? 351 00:19:45,230 --> 00:19:51,170 Well, on October 16th, 1931, he came home from working out in the fields and 352 00:19:51,170 --> 00:19:52,930 found his wife with a neighbor. 353 00:19:53,370 --> 00:19:56,070 He invited her over to eat some fresh strawberries that he had. 354 00:19:56,310 --> 00:20:00,070 Harry went ballistic. He threatened to cut her damn throat. 355 00:20:01,010 --> 00:20:05,830 So Clara ran to the police station and told the cops that her husband was on a 356 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:07,410 rampage and was going to kill her. 357 00:20:07,630 --> 00:20:08,850 So what happened after that? 358 00:20:09,090 --> 00:20:12,950 Well, Terry's running around the neighborhood looking for her, and he 359 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:14,630 Clara's brother, 360 00:20:15,370 --> 00:20:16,370 Philip Cowie. 361 00:20:16,410 --> 00:20:22,350 Words are exchanged, knives were pulled, and Terry gets a knife right in the 362 00:20:22,350 --> 00:20:25,700 chest. Right in the heart. He was dead before he hit the ground. 363 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,040 Okay. Any idea how far this is from my client's property? 364 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,580 About 500 feet. 365 00:20:30,820 --> 00:20:33,120 I got to assume they arrest Phillip. Yeah, right away. 366 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:37,460 He confessed to the crime, but he said it was to save his sister. 367 00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:40,660 All right, so this guy confesses. Does he wind up pleading out, or does he go 368 00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:41,900 trial? He goes to trial. 369 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,740 The jury deliberated for 11 minutes, came back with him not guilty. 370 00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:52,100 Okay. Modesto was a safer place after Harry Terry died. Oh, without a doubt. 371 00:20:55,690 --> 00:20:58,270 This demon child is a big problem. 372 00:20:58,490 --> 00:20:59,790 He's about the violence. 373 00:21:00,270 --> 00:21:06,670 Like, if you have anger inside of you, he wants to bring out 374 00:21:06,670 --> 00:21:08,750 the act of violence. 375 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:16,610 And this is something, you know, he's done over a long amount of time. 376 00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:18,910 And is this child just here in this location? 377 00:21:19,490 --> 00:21:21,350 No, he can go all over. 378 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:24,930 Any examples of what he's done? 379 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,620 I'm getting, I believe, a shooting. 380 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,260 There's a lot of physical violence due to him. 381 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,280 For more information about the show and if you need us to investigate 382 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,820 unexplained activity in your home, please visit TravelChannel .com slash 383 00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:53,940 Dead Files. Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit your story. 384 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,280 And we'll help if we can. 385 00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:06,820 So far, I have a client worried sick about the safety of her employees and 386 00:22:06,820 --> 00:22:10,640 customers in a building that was once a funeral parlor and a crematorium. 387 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:12,760 But I want to see if there's anything else. 388 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,960 According to old records, I find a gruesome suicide that happened at the 389 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,180 Hotel right down the street from Dana's business. 390 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:26,570 So I'm meeting a local journalist here who says in this case, the perp was an 391 00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:28,310 upstanding businessman who just snapped. 392 00:22:35,130 --> 00:22:38,270 Well, Claire, thanks for meeting with me. I appreciate it. All right. So 393 00:22:38,270 --> 00:22:41,450 we get to what happened, what can you tell me about the people that are 394 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:45,490 involved? It involved a married couple named Andrew and Marie Thornton. 395 00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:48,890 He was a prominent local businessman. He was 30 years old. 396 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:54,140 And he himself had built a successful string of shops, and he was really well 397 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:56,180 -known and respected in Modesto. 398 00:22:56,420 --> 00:22:59,760 By all appearances, they seemed to be a model couple in town. 399 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:03,180 All right, so Claire, how does the Mace Hotel come into the picture here? Well, 400 00:23:03,220 --> 00:23:06,360 in 1909, Marie starts managing the hotel. 401 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:13,400 Okay. And by 1910, she and Andrew are in it together. He has joined her 402 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,480 in the business, and they buy it. 403 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,900 So they're rich. They seem to be happy. But when did things go wrong? 404 00:23:22,140 --> 00:23:25,720 It was about four years into their marriage when Andrew snapped. 405 00:23:26,260 --> 00:23:30,420 All right. So let's get to it. What happened? Well, Friday, December 30th of 406 00:23:30,420 --> 00:23:35,440 1910 started out as a normal day for the two of them. Andrew ran an errand to 407 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,520 the post office and Marie was busy changing over rooms. But Andrew came 408 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,160 he was a completely different person. 409 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,540 He was basically insane with rage. 410 00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:53,590 He grabbed a 12 -inch butcher knife from the pantry, and he searched the hotel 411 00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:57,330 until he found Marie in an upstairs room, and he started stabbing her. 412 00:23:57,930 --> 00:24:00,810 All right, I can only imagine what was going through this woman's head. I mean, 413 00:24:00,830 --> 00:24:05,010 one minute everything's fine, next minute he's trying to kill her. Oh, 414 00:24:05,290 --> 00:24:10,270 She'd been hacked and stabbed all over her torso and her head. One of her 415 00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:11,950 fingers had been completely cut off. 416 00:24:12,270 --> 00:24:14,070 All right, so what happened to him? 417 00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:16,650 Andrew flees. He... 418 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,380 locks himself in his own bedroom. 419 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,980 And when the police get there, they actually have to break the door down in 420 00:24:23,980 --> 00:24:29,220 order to get to him. And there they find that he has turned the knife on himself 421 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:33,700 and flashed his own throat from ear to ear. 422 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,660 Okay. Let me get this straight. The guy tries to kill his wife out of nowhere. 423 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,260 He locks himself in a room, cops break open the door, and he's there in a 424 00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:46,060 mess. Why? The cops had the same question. 425 00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:53,990 was not able to physically answer. He had almost decapitated himself, and he 426 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:55,510 died moments later. 427 00:24:59,030 --> 00:25:01,610 The tall man that's here creeps me out. 428 00:25:02,410 --> 00:25:08,730 There's some kind of association with him and either this 429 00:25:08,730 --> 00:25:10,470 location or this land. 430 00:25:10,670 --> 00:25:14,530 I keep seeing like an office, like I'm standing more in an office. 431 00:25:18,030 --> 00:25:20,770 Do you have any idea when he lived? 432 00:25:21,630 --> 00:25:23,810 He's having a hard time with years. 433 00:25:24,210 --> 00:25:28,590 I said 1950s, no, 1850s, no. I said 1930s, maybe. 434 00:25:29,730 --> 00:25:33,610 Like I almost was going to say, oh, he had a lot of businesses or he owned a 435 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:36,070 lot. But no, it's like very specific. 436 00:25:37,090 --> 00:25:39,690 His fingers in a lot of things. 437 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:42,050 You know, he was pretty well known. 438 00:25:42,730 --> 00:25:44,050 Do you have any idea how he died? 439 00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:45,870 Oh, that's interesting. 440 00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:47,310 That's where I was asking him. 441 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:50,680 Were you still alive then? And he got all jumbled up. 442 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,580 So I'm almost wondering if something was wrong with him, with his brain. 443 00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:58,660 All right, so what happened to Marie? 444 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,700 They rushed her to the hospital and actually chose not to tell her until the 445 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,960 next day that her husband had killed himself. 446 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,060 They didn't want that additional shock to create even more harm for her. 447 00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:14,360 All right, so does she live? 448 00:26:14,890 --> 00:26:17,770 Yep, she lives, and she does recover physically. 449 00:26:19,230 --> 00:26:21,130 Emotionally, it's much harder to say. 450 00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:29,290 I'm seeing the crying woman again, and she looks a mess physically. 451 00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:36,650 It looked to me like her face had been, like, smashed 452 00:26:36,650 --> 00:26:37,650 in. 453 00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:42,290 Also, her left arm, I think it was her left arm, was off, too. 454 00:26:42,830 --> 00:26:44,510 I feel like she was murdered. 455 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:57,930 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, but two have me the most 456 00:26:58,530 --> 00:26:59,790 First, the demon child. 457 00:27:00,370 --> 00:27:06,350 He had like pitch black eyes, evil kind of mischief kind of look. 458 00:27:08,970 --> 00:27:10,790 Next, I described the tall man. 459 00:27:11,370 --> 00:27:14,370 Basically, his features were very odd. 460 00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:20,810 He had dark eyes, relatively thick eyebrows, a long face. 461 00:27:20,970 --> 00:27:22,210 He was pale. 462 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:29,650 Could you just make him, like, taller and thinner? 463 00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:30,950 Okay. 464 00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:37,430 Amy, is this what you saw? 465 00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:40,690 Yes, that's what I saw. 466 00:28:00,899 --> 00:28:05,060 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal 467 00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:08,260 findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 468 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,600 So guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. 469 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:16,020 Now, this walk was so physically hard on her that she asked us to move the 470 00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:17,240 reveal here to your home. 471 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,220 And she's in one of your bedrooms. 472 00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:24,440 Amy, meet Dana. She owns the building you did the walk in. This is Michelle 473 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,440 this is Ava. 474 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,800 They're both employees of Dana. 475 00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:31,960 I don't know if you realize it, but... You'll walk into a costume shop. 476 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,000 Wow. This shop is very close to Dana's heart, but activity is bad and she 477 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,840 doesn't know if it's safe for her customers or her employees. 478 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,400 And that's why she called us in. 479 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,280 So unless Amy's got some questions for you guys, she'll describe her walk for 480 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,280 us. 481 00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:54,580 This was one of the most draining walks I've ever done and stressful walk 482 00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:56,640 probably in the last 10 years. 483 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,120 One of the reasons for this. 484 00:29:00,970 --> 00:29:04,070 is that there's an excessive amount of residual energy. 485 00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:10,730 There was an immense amount of hearing people walking back and forth, people 486 00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:16,450 talking. The energy there is extremely thick. 487 00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:22,310 I'm worried about obviously living there, being exposed to that kind of 488 00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:27,030 on a consistent basis, making them extremely lethargic and burning. 489 00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:30,370 And also there is that stress. 490 00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:35,450 There's one spot in particular that I feel sadness at. 491 00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:38,430 And I've had mood changes with the sadness. 492 00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:41,510 Ava, you told me you had mood changes as well, right? Yeah. 493 00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:45,030 It's very, like, overwhelming sadness where one time I had to leave the 494 00:29:45,030 --> 00:29:48,930 building. You know, Amy, I'm not surprised you got a ton of residual 495 00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:52,770 1995, the building was turned into the Evans Funeral Home. 496 00:29:53,730 --> 00:29:57,830 Oh. This is what the shop looked like when it was the funeral home. 497 00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:02,190 And that's what the place was for the next 20 years. 498 00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:06,290 I mean, they held funeral services there. They even had a crematorium in 499 00:30:06,290 --> 00:30:10,510 back. There's still some stains on the ceiling from the human remains from the 500 00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:14,190 cremations. So if you see the top of it, that's all the soot up on the top 501 00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:15,190 there. 502 00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,650 Ah, very interesting. 503 00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:23,530 All right, so what else? 504 00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:29,210 At one point during my walk, I saw that there had been a seance there. 505 00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:35,890 I could hear a song, something about witches gathering in black masses. 506 00:30:36,410 --> 00:30:42,090 With all of the residual energy that's there and everything else, this is 507 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:45,850 absolutely not the place for anybody to do that. 508 00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:53,560 So I'm very concerned about that. This could be obviously very dangerous for 509 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,600 living and the dead. 510 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:58,660 Oh, guys, I told you this might happen, right? Right. Yeah. 511 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,760 So Dana has been letting paranormal groups walk the store. 512 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,860 Now these two, Michelle and Ava, they talk to the dead every day with EVPs and 513 00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:10,040 stuff. You've even used Ouija boards. 514 00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:16,620 Yeah, I enjoy talking to them because we get intelligent responses. 515 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,790 When I talked to Michelle here, she said that regardless of what your 516 00:31:20,790 --> 00:31:24,270 suggestions are, she's not going to stop talking to the dead no matter what. 517 00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:28,810 I talked to the dead. 518 00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:32,090 Just be aware of who you're really talking to. 519 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:35,070 Right. There's a lot going on up over there. 520 00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:36,310 Yeah. 521 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:39,230 Okay, so what else? 522 00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:42,010 I encountered a little boy. 523 00:31:42,770 --> 00:31:45,390 I would put him five to eight years of age. 524 00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:52,830 As soon as I encountered him, he changed form into a really big black, 525 00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:55,410 like, praying mantis kind of thing. 526 00:31:55,970 --> 00:31:58,890 That's when I realized this wasn't a little boy at all. 527 00:31:59,350 --> 00:32:05,890 I figured out that he's some kind of low -level, like, demon. His whole thing is 528 00:32:05,890 --> 00:32:12,810 if someone is prone to anger, his job, his duty is to make 529 00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:13,810 that person. 530 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,640 act out in a violent way. 531 00:32:15,940 --> 00:32:22,700 And I saw him influencing people to fight, to shoot another person. I felt 532 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:27,940 he could be starting to influence somebody who does work there. 533 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,480 Any of you guys feel like you're on the brink? 534 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320 No. Me, I do sometimes. 535 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Interesting. 536 00:32:36,980 --> 00:32:41,240 So, you know, I found a lot of murders around Dana's business, and with a five 537 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,590 -mile radius, I mean, forget about it. It could be like Brooklyn in the 80s. 538 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:46,470 Right. One case stood out. 539 00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:50,550 51 -year -old Anthony Williams was the father of a 10 -year -old boy named 540 00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:53,370 Hassan. Here's a picture of this little boy. He's really cute. 541 00:32:56,190 --> 00:32:59,470 This guy, Anthony, was going through a messy divorce. 542 00:32:59,990 --> 00:33:05,730 So on June 2, 2011, this creep kidnaps Hassan, takes him out to an orchard, 543 00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:07,770 one in his head, killing him, and then he shoots himself. 544 00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:10,150 Both were instantly killed. 545 00:33:11,470 --> 00:33:17,390 Both of the bodies were taken to the old funeral home, which is your shop, whose 546 00:33:17,390 --> 00:33:20,190 son's funeral was actually held at Evan's funeral home. 547 00:33:24,050 --> 00:33:29,270 I've got a big place in my heart for kids, and that hurt. 548 00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:34,530 Amy, is it possible this demon influenced Anthony to shoot his son? 549 00:33:35,470 --> 00:33:40,810 It's highly likely, simply because he's been functioning for a long time here. 550 00:33:41,230 --> 00:33:45,810 And I did have a sketch done of what I saw him doing. 551 00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:56,210 There's a little rat bastard, though. 552 00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,650 Wow. I got chills right now. 553 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:08,969 What's even more disturbing for you, you know, the way you feel about kids. 554 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,900 Yeah, I've adopted three kids. 555 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,580 It worries me. 556 00:34:14,940 --> 00:34:16,020 What else we got? 557 00:34:16,820 --> 00:34:20,320 One of my biggest concerns is this male that I encountered. 558 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080 He's very tall and very thin. 559 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,780 I got that he had some association with the location or the land around it. 560 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:35,699 I did gather that he had his fingers in a lot of different things and that he 561 00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:36,820 was well -known in the area. 562 00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:44,739 So jumbled up with numbers in particular, I thought maybe he had died 563 00:34:44,739 --> 00:34:46,580 cancer or had dementia. 564 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,060 A couple of things you're saying is making me think of a guy named Andrew 565 00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:54,540 Sorensen. Now, you said this guy had his hand in a lot of things and was well 566 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:58,980 -known in the area. Well, Andrew was a very successful businessman, and him and 567 00:34:58,980 --> 00:34:59,980 his wife seemed to have it all. 568 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,740 In 1910, he and Marie bought and ran the Mace Hotel, which was just down the 569 00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:05,740 street from your store. 570 00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:09,710 On December 30th of that year, Andrew Sorensen lost his mind. 571 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:16,190 So he pulls out a 12 -inch butcher knife and goes after Marie and starts 572 00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:18,050 stabbing her and hacking her. 573 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:21,830 I mean, it was so bad, one of her fingers got cut off. That's a defense 574 00:35:21,930 --> 00:35:24,990 you know, probably grabbing a knife and losing her finger. 575 00:35:25,890 --> 00:35:30,610 Now, Andrew ran into another bedroom, and that's where he slashed his own neck 576 00:35:30,610 --> 00:35:34,290 and cut himself from ear to ear, practically almost beheaded himself. 577 00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:39,280 Geez. Now, amazingly, believe it or not, with all the wounds to Marie, she 578 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,280 actually survived. 579 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:42,020 You mentioned that the guy was tall. 580 00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:44,160 Right. Anything else on what he looked like? 581 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,420 Well, I did have a sketch done of what I saw. 582 00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:50,340 This should be interesting. 583 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,300 Dana should look at that one. Yeah. Yeah. 584 00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:05,710 That's him. 585 00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:12,810 I've seen this tall man standing, and he had a suit on. 586 00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:15,310 That's the crazy thing, is he had a suit on. 587 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:20,150 Well, I'm a little freaked out about the guy that was in the bathroom with me. 588 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:22,170 That's his office area. 589 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:27,690 Ah. So, now, Ava, you described to me like a heavy presence. 590 00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:31,830 A few different times, but one in particular, I was by myself. I thought 591 00:36:31,830 --> 00:36:33,110 somebody was actually in the building. 592 00:36:33,550 --> 00:36:37,970 I heard the footsteps, and I turned around, but there was nobody there. 593 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:40,010 Do we think that's all this guy? 594 00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:41,730 Yeah. 595 00:36:44,830 --> 00:36:46,690 I'm a little nauseous right now, honestly. 596 00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:49,430 You said you were really worried about this guy, Amy. 597 00:36:49,890 --> 00:36:50,890 How come? 598 00:36:51,010 --> 00:36:55,590 He's got anger problems during the walk. It's like putting his hand on my 599 00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:56,590 shoulder. 600 00:36:56,950 --> 00:37:00,750 Then he was, like, putting his arm around my waist. And every time he would 601 00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:02,010 touch me, like... 602 00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:03,550 massive anxiety. 603 00:37:03,970 --> 00:37:06,050 You mentioned customers getting touched, right? 604 00:37:06,270 --> 00:37:09,750 Yes, yes. We've had a few customers touch, things thrown, 605 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:12,870 hair pulled, butts touched. 606 00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:20,110 The thing here that I'm worried about is that he easily makes attachments to 607 00:37:20,110 --> 00:37:20,928 living people. 608 00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:26,050 So my worry is him coming home with people and then assaulting them in their 609 00:37:26,050 --> 00:37:29,470 home. So I'm very nervous about this person. 610 00:37:29,890 --> 00:37:30,890 Honestly, 611 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,560 And it's not something I've told anybody. 612 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,920 I wake up a night choking, and it kind of scared me. 613 00:37:38,740 --> 00:37:40,600 Have you guys had any problems at home? 614 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:44,160 Yeah, I have. I know something came home with me. 615 00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:50,080 Why? Just felt it. I just felt like I wasn't alone when I walked in the door 616 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,080 whole night. 617 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,140 And then I just kept saying, go back to the store. That's where you have to be. 618 00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:57,220 This is my home. 619 00:37:57,700 --> 00:37:58,700 How about you? 620 00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:03,440 One night there was like a dark presence in the bedroom and I felt like 621 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,920 something set down on the bed. 622 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,040 So is it possible that he's going home to old tree homes? Well, it's a 623 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,980 possibility. This is something that, you know, people have a hard time with is 624 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:14,780 that he can be in multiple places simultaneously. 625 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,780 He's, you know, pissed. 626 00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:21,820 I'm just, I'm a little overwhelmed right now. 627 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,040 I didn't expect it like this. I don't even know how to put into words what I'm 628 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,040 feeling. 629 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:49,190 So ladies, when we met, you were kind of laughing off some of the activity in 630 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:50,190 the store. 631 00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:52,830 But I think it's become clear we've got a problem. 632 00:38:53,310 --> 00:38:56,890 Now the question is, can you fix it? And if so, what's it going to take? 633 00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:58,770 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Anne. 634 00:39:02,190 --> 00:39:09,190 So the first thing that needs to be done is the removal of the demon child 635 00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:10,190 thing. 636 00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:13,750 What you will need specifically for this is... 637 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,960 a holy person from a Christian -based religion to be able to counteract 638 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:27,940 the kind of evil that that little thing is creating. So once he's exercised 639 00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:34,820 and removed, then a male medium needs to come in and first 640 00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:37,580 deal with the male in the suit. 641 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,300 He needs to be removed. 642 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,780 And then the removal of the residual energy. 643 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:53,640 And then once that's been done, you guys get to clean the place from top to 644 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,320 bottom. Try to make it as happy and as much of a positive experience as 645 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,800 possible. Turn it into like a whole overnight, you know, lumber party 646 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,920 That's a lot of steps. 647 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:08,860 It is a lot. What are you thinking? 648 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,700 This is my heart and soul, so we're going to follow the steps. 649 00:40:12,140 --> 00:40:15,320 We're going to see what we can do, and, you know, I just don't want anything bad 650 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,320 there. 651 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:17,720 We're going to do it. 652 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,680 Amy, as far as them coming in in the store and doing EVPs, could they keep 653 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,980 that, or is that something you want it to stop for a while? Well, for now, it 654 00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:30,120 would be best to hold off on doing those things. 655 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,320 He's pissed. 656 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,700 So you two didn't want to stop, regardless. 657 00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:36,320 I mean, what's your thoughts now? 658 00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:39,000 No, I'm going to listen. 659 00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:40,580 Yeah. 660 00:40:41,660 --> 00:40:45,200 So, Dana, when we first spoke, you talked about how you just want to make 661 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,980 place a safe environment and to eventually turn it over to your kids for 662 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:49,980 take. Yes. 663 00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:51,920 How do you feel knowing that you can do that now? 664 00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:54,500 I feel good. I feel good knowing that I can. 665 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,260 I want my baby safe. 666 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,440 Thank you so much. Thank you. 667 00:40:58,980 --> 00:40:59,980 Thank you. 668 00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:06,040 Dana and her employees have a lot of work ahead of them. But if they contact 669 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,980 people I recommended, they can make this a safe place to work and shop. 670 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,760 And most importantly, Dana can one day turn the business over to her kids, 671 00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:17,220 knowing they'll be able to run it safely. 672 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:26,240 I want to thank Amy and Steve for coming to Daydreams and Nightmares to help us 673 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:33,220 out. We've been working with mediums and holy people for Amy's advice to remove 674 00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:38,920 the child demon and the tall man that was here. I know there's still a lot of 675 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,920 spirits here. 676 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:43,260 And there always will be because with this being an old funeral home. 677 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,880 But we're calm now, much calmer here. 678 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,400 And it feels lighter in the shop. And I just know that my customers, my 679 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,260 employees, and my family are safe when they come in. So, again, thank you, Amy 680 00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:59,940 and Steve, for coming to Daydreams and Nightmares and helping us out. 59800

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