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This thing is a collector.

It wants the person dead so it can get
the bones.

It's like a hand that goes around your
neck and pushes.

I want that son of a bitch gone.

I want it gone.

It's starting to evolve into a type of
poltergeist haunting.

It was like a scene from a horror movie.

The emotion is one of utter, utter hate.

I knew it wanted to kill me. I knew
that.

His intentions are very violent.

Ooh, the dark is getting darker.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people.

There is a skinwalker here.

I seek the dead people.

And they seek to me.

He wants to collect the women.

But there's only one way to know if my
findings are real.

They're sucking the life out of these
people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.

This is the kind of case that would have
haunted me.

And I know every person, every house has
secrets.

It's my job to reveal them. But Steve
and I never speak. We never communicate

during an investigation.

Until the very end.

Is that what I think it is?

Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for
you to stay. I told you he was trying to

kill me.

We're time to get out. You have a dead
person inside you.

I'm here in Discovery Bay, California.
It's about 60 miles east of San

Francisco.

I got a call from a couple, Heather and
Jonathan.

Now, a few years back, they moved into a
new house and things went south

immediately. It sounds like a really
horrible situation.

I'm hoping we can help.

The people here are suffering from
depression.

One of the living people here is way
more invested in stopping

this activity.

But there's another living person here
who has abilities. This woman is really

not wanting it to stop.

She likes the drama and she likes the
attention.

She pretty much wants the energy, this
negativity that's coming in.

All right, so Heather, the neighborhood
is beautiful. This is a gorgeous house,

but I guess looks can be deceiving,
right? I mean, what's it like living in

house? It's horrible. It's a nightmare.

You can't relax.

All right, Heather, let's start with
basics. Who lives in the house?

All right, what do we got here? Okay, we
have my son, Bailey. He just turned 21.

And then, of course, myself.

And then our daughter, Michaela. She's
14.

And then my husband, Jonathan.

It's a beautiful family. Thank you.

Do me a favor and give me a list of
what's going on in the house.

Things move in the house.

There's shadows, nightmares, and then
the physical attacks.

Now, I remember when we spoke on the
phone, you said something about the

killed your dad.

Yeah. What's going on with that?

My father used to own this house.

The minute he purchased this home, he
got sick, very sick.

What was his illness, if you don't mind
me asking?

Lung cancer, but they still aren't 100 %
sure. Okay, and how old was he when he

passed? 67.

It's far from me.

Okay.

So now, when your father was alive, did
he have experiences here?

Yes, he did.

He moved in here.

And within a couple months, he said,
there's something here.

So on the phone, you also told me you
thought your son Bailey's in danger.

Why do you believe that?

We moved in here, and he got sick.

They say, oh, we think.

We're not 100%, but we think it might be
MS.

And he's getting hard treatment. He's
getting chemo.

That's got to be really hard on you as a
mom.

Seeing him take chemo is probably the
worst thing I've ever seen.

How's he doing emotionally?

He did have a bout with depression.

We've never argued before, ever.

Okay. And we've had three very heated
arguments here that broke my heart.

Okay, so it's totally not his
personality. No, not at all.

This has got to be pretty stressful for
you guys. How's the family holding up?

Jonathan and I, my husband, we fought.

God -awful anger.

What's your thoughts on what's going on
here? What do you think it is?

Death, it's even told me that.

Okay. I feel like trauma from living
people, like just fighting.

There are bad living dynamics here.

Feeling the chills, like, for no reason.

That's not good.

There's a vortex right here.

This is happening.

There's a lot of movement here.

Okay, it's being created by a living
person.

I think it's the woman with ability.

It's growing. It's getting bigger.

It's just opening a doorway to anything
and everything.

All right, so there's basically a path.

This path was already here, but pretty
small.

So this woman, I think, is bringing more
of this in.

and has been bringing it in, building it
up, inviting, being inviting, you know.

Guys.

So what's going on in here?

I hear crashing sounds.

Like what? I mean, what's it sound like
to you? It's loud. It's like dishes,

glass, maybe coffee mug.

Do you have any evidence at all that
something broke?

I'll even open the cabinets to look
inside.

Nothing? Nothing.

Okay, so you're hearing the crashing
noises. Anything else?

The front door has a digital lock. Okay.
And you will hear it as this ding sound

opens and closes.

And we hear it all the time, but when we
go and check, there's nobody there.

All right, now, I have the same type of
locks at home. Sometimes when the

battery's starting to go, it makes that
noise.

We thought of that. We've changed the
batteries. It still does it. Okay.

I think another person lives here who
has PK abilities.

So they're possibly too sensitive in the
house.

So they're like, oh, okay, I'm going to
take this out right now, right?

And then they're like this, right?

And then they're, like, doing it over
here. And then they turn around, and

open. So they're like, well, I thought I
closed that, but it's open.

And so they're starting to be, like,
weirded out by this. And, in fact, it is

some kind of PK.

And now it's starting to evolve into a
type of poltergeist haunting.

Okay, so what's going on in here?

I get this sense of being watched.

Describe it. Is it like you're peeping
Tom, somebody's about to rob you?

It's to the point where I don't even
want to get out of bed to go get water

go use the restroom. I feel like it's in
the corner just ominously just staring.

All right, so the feeling of being
watched. What else?

There's a very tall, dark, thick, black
shadow.

First showed itself to me two days
before my father passed away.

Give me a description of this thing.

It has like an Amish -style hat.

Can you make out any facial features?
No. I think he's sneaky.

I think he's conniving. I think he's
figuring out what he's going to do next.

That's the feeling I get.

Okay. It's a game to him.

Okay, so anything else?

I wake up with bruises, scratches,
burns. I have some photos here that you

see.

You just wake up like this? Yeah, just
wake up regularly, and there they are.

These are pretty bad. And what do you
think this is?

It's that thing. It's that tall black
thing. I want that son of a bitch gone.

I want it gone.

So this right now is an active doorway.

I see a skeleton coming out of this
vortex.

He's big.

He's really tall.

The living are seeing a big guy in and
around here.

I'm getting more chills.

The tall skeleton -looking dude.

Yeah, that guy's in here a lot.

Just a lot of, like, really bad energy.

It's feeling it's like hungry, like it's
violently hungry.

It wants this person.

This thing is like a collector.

It wants the person dead so it can get
the bones.

So, Jonathan, I was talking to your wife
earlier, and she was telling me about

what's going on. I mean, things sound
pretty bad here. Are you worried about

her? Definitely worried about her. It's
getting a lot worse.

What about yourself? Any experiences?

I get extremely angry when I get home. I
hear that a lot from, you know, clients

and witnesses about the anger issue.

Why is it paranormal in your case and
not just you're an angry guy?

It's not happening when I'm away from
here. It's as soon as I get to this

something just kind of ignites me. I'll
come home and I'll snap for no reason.

Is it affecting your marriage?

Very badly.

Very badly.

So anything else?

We have a dark shadow that follows us
around. Your wife described the shadow

saw. Tell me what you see.

It's basically just a giant dark spot.

Okay. Any features at all?

I can't see facial features.

How big is this thing? It's huge.

More than 10 feet. Okay.

Anything else?

There was a night I was laying down in
bed to go to sleep and it felt like

was like a spider on my face. So I kind
of wiped it off.

Nothing there. And then it just felt
like it started choking me.

The choking feeling you get, is it like
something caught in your throat or

somebody wrapped around your neck?

It's like a hand that goes around your
neck and pushes right on a soft spot.

Do you think it has anything to do with
the shadow figure you saw?

Yes.

Before that, I've had my foot tugged on
it.

Your foot? Laying down in bed.

Next thing I know, it just felt like
something grabbed my foot and just

Did it feel like a man's hand?

Yes. And you were alone in the bedroom?
Yes.

I mean, I don't even know how to debunk
that. You would have seen it if it was

somebody else, right? I definitely would
have seen it if it was somebody else.

What do you think is here? Definitely
evil.

It's definitely starting to attack.

There's a lot of negativity in this
house with living people, and I think

this person has a darkness.

The tall, skeleton -looking dude was
attracted to.

Yeah, but it's fast, and it's like...

coming out and at times rushing,
rushing, and sometimes

more creeping.

Is he dangerous? The intention is
absolutely there and it's pretty

So Bailey was talking to mom today. I
understand you have some medical issues.

Yeah. I have multiple sclerosis.

Your mom seems to think that the
paranormal has a lot to do with your

How do you feel about it?

I'm not too sure, but I do kind of feel
like I do have more symptoms when I am

at home.

So, talking to your mom, talking to dad,
and they were saying they see this

shadow figure, big, tall shadow figure.
Are you seeing this at all? Yeah, I see

a tall figure with a black hat. I don't
see any facial features, nothing.

He sits right behind my door, just
watches.

Your mom mentioned the hat too.

Anything else?

I've also been grabbed when I was laying
down in my bed.

It was a very forceful pull.

You're a big guy. Yeah.

What did it, did it feel like a hand?

It felt like it was a one -handed grab
and smack on my leg. Do you think it was

this shadow figure that did that?

I do, yeah. I think it wants to come
after me.

How are you feeling though? I mean, your
mother mentioned to me that you and her

were having some arguments. You had some
real anger issues.

Just talking to you for a few minutes, I
can't really see you that way. My mom

actually normally will describe me as a
gentle giant to everybody.

But for some reason, sometimes when I'm
here, I just get angry over the littlest

of things.

In here, I'm just feeling like anger and
decompressing.

Yeah, I'm feeling it really hardcore
right here.

What's going on?

You also have...

two living people here, one who has PK
abilities, and

then you have another one who might be a
medium.

And those two combined with their
negative energy are pulling from

the energy that was already here.
They're creating their own energy, and

therefore they're starting to create
little mini vortexes or doorways

the house.

And how many of them are there under
these vortexes? It would be one, two,

three. I think there's about four.

This negative energy that they have, you
know, is creating a lot of, like,

adrenaline. So that's just building and
drawing.

It's growing. It's getting bigger.

So I made my usual calls before I got to
town. Local cops, journalists,

genealogists. I just got a call from a
historian who says one of the original

owners of Heather and Jonathan's land
has a crazy story I'm definitely going

want to hear about.

So Dan, what can you tell me about this
guy? The man we're talking about is John

Marsh. John Marsh was born 1799 in
Massachusetts.

Okay. So he makes it out west to Fort
Snelling, Minnesota.

where he becomes an Indian agent.

So what an Indian agent is, is somebody
whose role is to communicate as a

liaison between the federal government,
United States, and the various Indian

tribes in the area.

Anything happen there I should know
about?

One is he falls in love with a woman
named Marguerite de Canteau. They have a

child that they named Charles.

Okay. Then the other thing that happens
is he gets in pretty big trouble with

the U .S. government because he's
accused of helping to incite.

The Black Hawk War.

He's in a lot of trouble. Do they bring
him up on charges? What happens?

Well, he becomes a wanted man.

So he takes Marguerite and their young
son, Charles, 300 miles away, sets him

with a family.

He returns to Fort Snelling trying to
settle things with the U .S. government.

So he gets her out of harm's way, comes
back and tries to see if he can smooth

things over. Correct.

However, Marguerite cannot live without
him. She takes it upon herself to walk

300 miles through the wilderness.

While pregnant, she makes it to Fort
Snelling, and both she and the child die

his arms.

Okay, so when does he actually make it
out to California?

In 1837.

So when he gets here, he actually begins
practicing medicine. He pays $500 by 13

,000 acres, which includes your client's
property.

Wow. He ends up marrying a woman named
Abigail Tuck in March of 1852.

Okay. The next year, they have a child
that they named Alice, and that's a

family photo.

Okay.

All right, so he's married again. He's
got another kid. About a year after that

photograph was taken, Abby contracts
what we think was tuberculosis, and she

dies in 1855.

She is then buried on the property.

How old was she when she died? She was
about 36.

Okay, so she was a young woman.

All right, so now he loses two wives.
What happens next? So the following

John Marsh is heading to a business trip
in San Francisco, takes his horse and

buggy. On the trail, he's confronted by
three Mexican cowboys that Marsh hired

to work the ranch for him. They accused
Marsh of not paying them what he owed

them. Okay.

They had a confrontation.

Marsh is thrown from the buggy, and then
a man named Felipe Moreno comes over

and slits Marsh's throat.

Okay, so now we've got a homicide.

Correct. Charles Marsh, John's son,
spent the next decade of his life

down his father's murder. He eventually
captures Felipe Moreno, and Felipe is

tried and convicted of the murder.

This story went from unbelievable to
this is bad to unbelievable again to a

tragedy. That's the story of John
Marsh's life.

I'm seeing a dead couple sitting there,
a male and a female.

They're both white in their 30s. They
come into the house through one of the

vortexes.

The dead woman, she also wanted to say
that the reason why the guy she's with

so stiff and quiet is because he's got
PTSD.

The woman is kind of messed up.

The side of her face is not right. I
thought she had been in some kind of

because of her face.

But then I heard no.

They seemed to be a couple from a while
ago. They want out.

She kept saying, help me, help me, trust
me.

Her head was hurt. Something about a
premature baby.

And that's the real way she died.

Heather and Jonathan live in a big gated
development.

It's a beautiful place.

But a local genealogist just called me
up, said the whole place is built on an

ancient burial site. This I got to hear
about.

So, Cherie, I appreciate you coming out
and meeting with me.

Before we get to the burial site.

When did this development start?

In about 2002.

They started out at Marsh Creek area,
which is about five miles this way.

And they developed the area all the way
to where you see now. There's about 3

,000 homes in this community. So ancient
burial grounds, what did they find?

Well, at first they found tools. They
found a lot of artifacts.

Okay. Then they came upon some burial
sites.

Okay. After they did the radiocarbon
dating.

They found that the bones were 3 ,000 to
4 ,000 years old. So do we have any

idea how many remains they found as far
as bodies go? They found 500 burial

sites. Wow.

Within this area here. So with all the
stuff that they found, was there any

clues as to who they might have been or
what they were all about? The

archaeologists on the site have dubbed
them the Marsh Creek people.

And this is what the burial sites looked
like.

Do we know how they survived, how they
ate and stuff like that?

They were hunter -gatherer people. They
survived off of acorns and fish.

Any idea how old they lived to?

There were some skeletons that were
approximately 35 years old. There was

another that was 40, but not much older
than that. So middle age to them was 20.

Yes. You always hear the old joke about,
oh, I live on ancient burial grounds.

These people actually do.

Yes.

So I'm walking along and I see like this
wide, I don't know if

it was a large creek bed or a river bed.

In it, I'm seeing all of these human
bones just scattered.

Along this, I see men on their knees.

They're hunched over and they're naked.
They're also completely hairless and

they're pounding on the ground in
anguish. They chose to stay to remember

mourn. The tall skeleton dude was one of
those people and has like

these glowing eyes.

He's got like some kind of special job
here or whatnot.

And that's when I got a really bad
feeling. And I mean, very bad.

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So far, I've got a client who thinks
something in the house killed her father

a property that was built over ancient
Native American burial grounds.

But I want to see if there's anything
else.

Searching through old records, I found a
gruesome story about a man who kept

thousands of cremated bodies in a
storage facility.

So I'm heading over to meet a local
journalist who covered this crime.

Now, he says the reason the guy kept all
the cremated remains is going to blow

me away.

So, Greg, do me a favor and let's take
it from the top. How the hell did they

find the remains?

Steve, it happened on June 5th, 1997.

Okay. When one of the local storage
units out here, the tenant noticed that

was getting this dust from the unit next
door.

Okay. So he told the management company,
and they come out, and they roll up the

door from the place next door, and it
was like a scene from a horror movie.

There were boxes of human remains,
cremations, stacked floor to ceiling in

storage unit.

Okay, that's a little bizarre.

I mean, how far is that from my client's
property, do you know? It was just

about a mile.

All right, so we got a locker filled
with cremated remains.

I mean, do we know how many?

Yes, there was close to 5 ,000 remains
in this locker.

And some of the boxes were so old, they
were like crushed and the ashes were

coming out of them. All right, so who
the hell is keeping the remains there? I

mean, what's going on? Well, the guy's
name was Alan Kenneth Vieira. He was a

-year -old guy from Stockton,
California.

All right, so this guy sounds like a
sick bastard. I mean, what would possess

this guy to keep 5 ,000 remains in a
loft? I don't understand.

Well, he was a commercial pilot, and he
worked with about 150 funeral prowlers

around the area.

And his job was to disperse these ashes.
And he used to fly them in a plane like

this, right?

Well, what happened was he lost his
pilot license in, like, 1985.

Okay. So he needed the money.

So he just kept taking the job and
taking the remains and storing them in

storage unit, figuring nobody was ever
going to know.

Okay, so I assume the authorities got
involved.

Well, absolutely. They knew who he was
from the storage locker.

They found out they got seven arrest
warrants for this guy, and they went to

airplane hangar where they found another
thousand boxes of remains.

Wow. Cops seek remains pilot. Okay, so
they didn't get him at this point.

No. They tried to get him, but he went
on the run.

All right, so with all these warrants
out for him, did they ever catch up to

him? Sort of. They found his abandoned
car out on a remote road in the next

county over, and they did a search, and
about 200 yards from the car, they found

his body.

Single gunshot wound to the head. He
offed himself.

Did the families ever get any of the
ashes back?

Yes, most of the families did get the
remains back from the identifications on

the boxes, but there were several
hundred that were never identified

boxes were broken and ashes got mixed
together, so unfortunately not everybody

did get their family member back.

I saw a lot of disturbing

things on my walk, but the tall skeleton
dude tormenting a living woman has me

the most concerned.

From the front.

You see clearly a skeleton.

Everything on the back side of him is
actually skin. And also,

he has eyeballs in his sockets, in the
open sockets.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have completed our
investigations, we're ready to reveal

findings to each other and our clients
for the first time.

Guys, this is Amy.

She's going to be doing the reveal from
one of your bedrooms so she can

concentrate on your case without any
distractions.

Amy, this is Heather and her husband,
Jonathan.

They live here with their two kids.

This is Bailey and Michaela.

Bailey's 21 and Michaela's 14.

So now these guys have been here a
couple of years, and it's been bad for

No one feels safe.

Heather is convinced whatever's here in
the house is capable of murder, and she

thinks it's going at the belly.

So now that Amy knows a little bit about
you guys, she'll tell us about her

walk.

When I first walked into the house, I
knew that there was somebody here who

PK abilities.

And I believe that this is a living
female.

Amy, can you do me a favor? Can you just
explain the PK?

It's the ability of an individual, a
living person, to affect their

in a non -physical manner.

And some of the things that I felt you
guys might be having experiences with

were hearing or seeing cabinets and
doors opening.

things going missing?

I will hear like mugs or dishes
crashing, but I don't find anything.

Okay. Have you had anything with like
getting something out of the cabinet and

thinking you closed that cabinet and
then you're looking and it's open, but

you're like, I'm pretty sure I closed
that thing. Yeah. And it consistently

happening? Yeah.

Okay. I thought I was losing my marbles.

Actually, when I sat down and I was
looking at you, Heather, I do think it

you. I also think you're a psychic
empath.

And you also being a psychic empath
means that you're absorbing even more

energy? I always thought it was just my
mother instinct.

I could tell you my kids can get sick
before they do.

Okay, okay.

So, Amy, you should probably know that
the house used to be owned by Heather's

father, Warren.

I actually have a picture of him here.

This guy never had experiences before,
but the second he moved in here, that

changed. Really?

Interesting. Okay.

He just thought something was here.

You also think this house killed your
father?

From the minute he saw this house, he
declined rapidly.

Did he ever think, like, he had
abilities?

If he did, he would have never told me.
He didn't believe in that stuff.

Okay. The reason why I'm asking that is
because I believed there to be a

second sensitive in the house.

But I felt that that individual was more
than likely a medium.

Any idea who the other sensitive is?

I don't know if it was her father or if
it's you.

Here's the thing. The energy created by
having two sensitives in this house is

making various pathways or vortexes for
the dead.

Right now, I believe there are four
separate vortexes in the house. And the

problem with these is that,
unfortunately, they can allow anything

I'm trembling.

Yeah, it's a lot. I'm trembling.

So now these vortexes, what's coming
through them?

There were two different sets of dead
people. The first one was a couple.

They looked to be probably in their 30s.
The male was very, very stiff.

And she told me the reason why he was
like that was because he is suffering

PTSD.

I kept trying to figure out how the
female died.

because her face was a little messed up.

And I thought initially that it looked
like she had been in some kind of fire

something, but I heard no.

She just kept saying, please help me.

There was something as well around her
death that had to do with a premature

baby. Okay, so this is making me think
of the original owner of this land.

His name was John Marsh.

He was from Massachusetts.

Now, he ended up in Minnesota in Fort
Snelling. He worked as an Indian agent.

Basically, what that means is a fancy
way of saying he was a broker between

government, U .S. government and the
Native American tribes.

While he was there, he fell in love with
an Indian woman and they had a child

together. Then things went bad.

He got blamed for starting a war between
two tribes and suddenly his life was in

danger. So he sent his common -law wife
to hide out with a friend about 300

miles away.

But she missed him. And get this, she
walked all the way back.

300 miles. Even though she was pregnant
with their second child.

But the walk literally killed her. When
she arrived, she actually died in his

arms. Her unborn child was also dead as
well.

So in 1838, Marsh finally made his way
here and bought 13 ,000 acres of land,

which includes your property.

So in 1851, he remarried.

Now, I got a picture of him with his
second wife.

But four years later, she died of TB.

And she was only 36 when she died.

The following year, Marsh got into a
fight with some of the farmhands who

thought they'd been underpaid. One of
them sliced his throat and he died in a

field. Now, he was 57 when he died.

I don't want them stuck here.

So you said this couple came through the
vortex.

Yes. Anything else coming out of the
vortex when they came out? The second

that I saw coming through is something
I'm actually worried about here.

What I saw coming at me looked like a
skeleton.

I know that this thing was alive once.
It was a person, a male.

And what I saw was about five or six men
with this

skeleton. They were all on their knees
and bent over, and they were banging on

the ground.

They were around, I believe, a large
creek or some kind of riverbed. And what

saw were a lot of bones that were
scattered all over the place.

And that's why these men are so upset.

And they were grieving over the bones.

Well, you pretty much nailed this one.

So Heather and John's house is built on
a development of about 3 ,000 houses.

Construction started a few miles away in
2002 by Marsh Creek.

This is the creek not far from here.
Now, once they started digging, they

realized they were building over an
ancient city. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh.

Now, they found tools, cooking sites,
you know, all kinds of other artifacts.

They also found more than 500 graves
with the bones intact.

This is what it looked like. It was
similar to this.

Using radiocarbon dating, they
determined that these bones were between

,000 and 4 ,000 years old.

Oh, holy.

Thanks so much.

Did you guys know about that? I said it.
No. She felt it.

What'd you feel?

She just kept repeating, like, your face
is on native ground. We're out of here.

Really? Because she don't want to mess
with it.

Mm -mm.

Mm -mm.

Amy, you said you were worried about the
skeleton guy, but why?

Now I'm tenfold worried.

He's strong. He's strong.

When I saw him in particular coming
through, that...

Vortex. I thought that maybe y 'all
would see something very, very big or

Well, Amy, everybody I spoke to has seen
this tall shadow guy.

He's very black, very big, black, black,
black shadow. It's almost identical.

It's like I can make out the shoulders.

Then you can see just the shadow of his
head.

The emotion with him is one of utter,
utter

hate. And violence.

The reason he's attracted to your house
is that there's a lot of anger here.

As soon as I pull up in the driveway, I
just instantly feel angry

over the smallest things. And I snap
instantly, just snap.

And for no reason.

It's anger I never felt. Screaming to
where your throat hurts.

And that's not us.

No. That's not us.

Interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if
there's been some physical interaction.

At this point, I'm thinking touching,
possible scratching with him.

I will wake up first thing in the
morning and I will notice bruises on my

my forearm, inner thighs, around my
knees.

And it looks like fingerprints.

And I also wake up with scratches on my
arms.

So I got a couple of photos here of the
bruising she's talking about.

This is one of them.

This is the other one. These are both on
your... My forearms. My forearms.

They're pretty significant bruises.

You got grabbed by the foot.

Yeah. Tell Amy what happened. In bed,
getting ready to go to sleep.

Next thing I know, I just had this hand
just grab my foot and just tug.

Your son barely had his...

Foot grab, too. Tell Amy what happened.
Yeah, and he's a big boy, and it yanked

him recently.

Okay. Remember that spider thing you
talked about?

Yeah. Tell Amy what happened. It was a
night I was laying in bed, and it felt

like I had a spider crawl along my
shoulder.

So I kind of brushed it off, and it
touched my face.

And just a few minutes later, something
grabbed my throat and started squeezing.

Now, Heather, you told me you feel what?

Oh, yeah.

Creepy, in the corner, just ominous,
evil, just staring.

He's in the dark, watching.

So you guys have seen it. I mean, Amy,
what did it look like to you?

Actually, I did have a sketch done of
what I saw.

I'm not sure if you're going to want to
see this.

No, I'm going to fight this guy. I want
to see what he looks like.

Oh, yeah, you're going down.

Wrong house.

Wrong house.

Wrong house.

Wish I can shoot it.

That's scary.

I ain't scared of him.

I'm good.

I ain't scared of him. He's going.

No, he just pissed me off. That's all he
did.

Touch my kids.

So what the hell does he want from these
guys?

His intentions are very violent and
based on, like, when I say pure hate, I

hate.

What I saw when I was looking at him
coming towards the bed was him

honing in on a female. He wants her
dead, meaning you.

He told you. So he can have your bone.

It's all about the bone.

Almost like a revenge, I think.

Well, because they did.

Ripped out the bones from the graves
here? That's what I think, yeah.

I knew it wanted to kill me. I knew
that.

I knew that.

You're angry about it as opposed to
being afraid.

It touched my kid.

I may be small.

With my kids, it's a whole nother
ballgame. Good. It's a good attitude. I

it. It's a whole nother ballgame.

Well, you guys have a trifecta here. You
got PK, vortexes, and the skeleton guy.

That's a lot.

So now for the big questions. Can you
stay and fight or should you pack up and

go? For that answer, I'm going to turn
it over to Amy.

So the first thing, Heather, what would
be really good for you is something like

Tai Chi or Qigong. And these are
energetic exercises.

what that will do is help you to
control, release, and manage your PK

specifically. The second thing that I
would suggest is some type of family

counseling with a psychotherapist to
allow you guys to kind of purge all of

these experiences and allow everybody in
the family to just kind of share where

they're at with things.

Now, considering everything,

The safest thing to do, especially
because, you know, you have family and

know that this thing is filled with
absolute hatred, has keyed in on your

location and wants to do you physical
harm and has been doing physical harm.

safest thing to do is to relocate.

I mean, this is a blow to the head,
which I didn't want you guys to deal

tonight. I know this house has
sentimental value as far as you follow

That doesn't mean nothing. That doesn't
mean nothing, no. My son has MS.

He can't. He can't fight this.

He can't.

And I'm not losing my kid.

Just to build it. Right. Yeah. Just to
build it. You can make a home anywhere.

Yeah. My dad wouldn't want me here.

Yeah. Not knowing this. No.

I don't like the idea of leaving it here
for someone else.

Mm -hmm.

I know. That scares me. Mm -hmm.

You thought your marriage was on the
rocks because of all the fighting, but

you guys leave, be a fresh start.

Definitely.

I like that.

It's never easy telling someone they
need to leave their home, but in a

situation as dangerous as this, it's
their only option.

Hopefully, Heather and Jonathan take my
advice, seek family counseling, and get

a fresh start someplace new.

Hi, Dead Files.

We are still currently in the house. We
haven't moved yet.

We do plan on moving within the next
year, depending on the current

Yeah, it's hard right now.

The activity in the house, it's still
going on. We've still got the bruises

the scratches and the noises and
everything going on.

I'm starting to see some shadows again.

So it's not very comforting, but we're
going to take care of it.