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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,840 She does not like this person. 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,600 And she looks at me like, I've been bad. 3 00:00:17,220 --> 00:00:19,520 It was a force that pushed me forward. 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,800 You're lucky you didn't break your neck. 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,280 She's going to take him out. Like she's on a mission. 6 00:00:27,380 --> 00:00:29,640 My daughter lost her husband to suicide. 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,760 She would just scream, help me, help me. She was like possessed. 8 00:00:35,740 --> 00:00:37,900 Could this old lady have actually killed Scott? 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,440 That's fully her intention. 10 00:00:41,220 --> 00:00:43,600 I'm scared. I'm freaking out. 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,060 Ooh, the dark is getting darker. 12 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:49,900 My name is Amy Allen. 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,860 I see dead people. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,640 There is a skinwalker here. 15 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:55,960 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:56,340 --> 00:00:57,780 And they speak to me. 17 00:00:58,460 --> 00:01:00,220 He wants to collect the women. 18 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:03,480 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:01:03,980 --> 00:01:07,140 They're sucking the life out of these people. 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,280 I rely on my partner. 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,740 I'm Steve DeShavit. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 22 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:14,800 This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,780 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,620 It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate 25 00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:24,620 during an investigation. 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Until the very end. 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Is that what I think it is? 28 00:01:27,780 --> 00:01:32,020 Yes. When we uncover if it saved you to stay. I told you he was trying to kill 29 00:01:32,020 --> 00:01:33,020 me. 30 00:01:33,140 --> 00:01:35,940 We're time to get out. You have it, dad. 31 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:54,080 I'm out here in Glendale, Arizona. It's about 10 miles north of Phoenix. 32 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:59,080 I got an emotional call from a woman named Joanne. Now, she bought a big 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,480 in the desert so her family would have a place to vacation. 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,220 But it's nobody's idea of a good time. 35 00:02:05,340 --> 00:02:09,600 My house is just becoming more and more infested. I don't know where all this is 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,460 going to go. They're getting more aggressive with us. 37 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:16,780 Joanne says unless we can find a way to help, somebody's going to get hurt. 38 00:02:31,580 --> 00:02:33,000 I'm seeing this older woman. 39 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,900 She's got this mischievous childlike thing about her. 40 00:02:38,220 --> 00:02:41,400 Then her head opens and she sends like these little hands out. 41 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:44,140 Like she's trying to scare me. 42 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,020 And she looks at me like, I've been bad. 43 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:59,820 Joanne, I got to tell you, just pulling up this beautiful poem, I find it hard 44 00:02:59,820 --> 00:03:02,700 to believe that you have a problem here. But when we spoke on the phone, you 45 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:03,679 didn't sound too great. 46 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,580 We bought this beautiful house for us, you know, for our family, for our 47 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:10,060 grandkids, and there's so much activity. 48 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,780 I'm just really afraid to bring any family here. 49 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,240 Well, that's miserable. 50 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:19,340 I just want them to be happy here, and this is a place where they can be safe, 51 00:03:19,420 --> 00:03:20,399 and they're not. 52 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,880 You're breaking my heart. I mean, just as a grandmother alone, I couldn't 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,240 imagine how it feels. It's difficult, yeah. 54 00:03:27,660 --> 00:03:29,580 So who actually lives in the home? 55 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:31,500 My husband, Scott, and myself. 56 00:03:32,970 --> 00:03:33,970 It's with him. 57 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:36,110 So it's just you two guys? Just us two. 58 00:03:37,010 --> 00:03:38,010 You guys look happy. 59 00:03:39,130 --> 00:03:40,130 We are. 60 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:42,550 But not living conditions. 61 00:03:42,950 --> 00:03:43,950 No. 62 00:03:44,250 --> 00:03:46,310 So what about your husband? Is he a believer? 63 00:03:46,870 --> 00:03:48,670 He is. He's had a ton of experiences. 64 00:03:49,450 --> 00:03:53,190 And as a matter of fact, he likes to go to haunted hotels and spend the night. 65 00:03:53,510 --> 00:03:54,870 Really? Yeah. 66 00:03:55,090 --> 00:03:57,850 Let me ask you a question. What do you think is here, or who do you think is 67 00:03:57,850 --> 00:04:00,830 here? I think maybe my son -in -law may be here. 68 00:04:02,010 --> 00:04:05,450 My daughter lost her husband to suicide about seven years ago. 69 00:04:05,970 --> 00:04:09,330 I've dealt with suicide in my own family. It's not easy to get over. 70 00:04:09,610 --> 00:04:13,670 It's not easy to see your daughter as a widow at 23. 71 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:18,269 Okay. And she was six weeks pregnant at the time. 72 00:04:18,510 --> 00:04:19,730 I'm really sorry to hear that. 73 00:04:20,829 --> 00:04:24,470 Do me a favor and just give me a list of what you guys are going through here. 74 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:26,290 Things are moving on their own. 75 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:28,770 We're experiencing sudden mood changes. 76 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:30,850 We get sick. 77 00:04:31,820 --> 00:04:33,360 We're seeing shadowy figures. 78 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:36,460 Now they're becoming physically violent with us. 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,080 You said something about illnesses, right? 80 00:04:39,340 --> 00:04:40,580 What are we talking about? 81 00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:43,060 Stomach pains that it can't explain. 82 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,100 Scott will all of a sudden, out of nowhere, just throw up. 83 00:04:46,340 --> 00:04:48,080 So have you seen a doctor about this? 84 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Multiple doctors, and we're both nurses, so we pretty much know how our bodies 85 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,080 work. You mentioned mood swings. What are we talking about? 86 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:59,480 My husband just sometimes will feel very anxious and stressed. 87 00:05:00,110 --> 00:05:02,970 Out of nowhere. He'll be very angry. 88 00:05:03,530 --> 00:05:07,710 So do you think whatever's in this house is influencing him? 89 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:11,190 Oh, 100%. Okay, so we need to fix this. 90 00:05:11,410 --> 00:05:12,410 Exactly. 91 00:05:16,610 --> 00:05:19,370 I see white eyes looking at me. 92 00:05:20,330 --> 00:05:24,630 Without a doubt, I believe that the living here are thinking that this is a 93 00:05:24,630 --> 00:05:25,630 shadow person. 94 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:30,040 But I know that it's... a male and that it's a teenager. 95 00:05:31,420 --> 00:05:33,060 He's just staring at me. 96 00:05:34,420 --> 00:05:38,040 I think he's influencing a living male here to be bad. 97 00:05:41,540 --> 00:05:45,580 I'm seeing that older woman walking through the walls. 98 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:56,540 Living people have seen her. And I feel like there's a male who is scared or 99 00:05:56,540 --> 00:05:57,540 uncomfortable. 100 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,280 She hates the mail. 101 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:07,340 But when this mail is round, it's almost like she's alive 102 00:06:07,340 --> 00:06:09,500 again. I'm getting chills. 103 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,340 There's a lot of emotion there. 104 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,540 So what's going on in here? 105 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,960 I see shadow figures. 106 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,560 What does it look like? 107 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,260 It looks like a reverse negative. 108 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Any problems with your vision? 109 00:06:24,940 --> 00:06:27,160 No. Okay. Don't wear glasses. 110 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,160 Okay, anything else? So we have electronics that turn on and off. 111 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:37,660 specific? We have TVs that turn off and on downstairs and one upstairs that just 112 00:06:37,660 --> 00:06:38,960 turns on in the middle of the night. 113 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:41,980 Is it on a timer or anything that you guys have it hooked up to? 114 00:06:42,220 --> 00:06:44,600 No. Okay, any other electronic problems? 115 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:47,840 Well, here in the kitchen, the lights will turn on on their own. 116 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Is there any problem with the electricity? 117 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,320 No. This five years old, they redid the whole inside of the house. Anything else 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,079 going on? 119 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,300 Things are moving around in the kitchen. 120 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,320 We'll put something down and it'll move. 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,400 And you're sure it's not the grandkids playing games? 122 00:07:01,660 --> 00:07:03,000 They're usually not here when that happens. 123 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,640 So it's usually me home alone. 124 00:07:05,260 --> 00:07:06,560 Anything else like that happening? 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Drawers are opening. 126 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:10,340 I'll come in and drawers will be open. 127 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,440 These aren't easy to open. 128 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,260 What do you think is doing this? 129 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:19,200 I think it's somebody angry in this house that's not alive anymore. 130 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:20,460 Okay. 131 00:07:21,940 --> 00:07:23,160 This older dead woman? 132 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,080 She gets really angry in here. 133 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:34,640 I see her, like, literally losing her... 134 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:41,540 So I'm wondering if the living have had 135 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:43,760 a lot of experiences in here. 136 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,080 What is she doing? 137 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,100 Just throwing fists. 138 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,540 And how are the living perceiving this? 139 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,280 It would be possible for things to be being thrown. Maybe things are moving. 140 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:06,040 There's a lot of energy in here, and she is able to make noise and knock 141 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:11,740 over. Maybe they do have lights blow out. Things go out in here not working 142 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:12,740 great. 143 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:20,720 So what's going on in here? 144 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:22,080 I've been scratched. 145 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:28,220 Where? On my hand. I have a picture here. I was folding laundry, and my 146 00:08:28,220 --> 00:08:29,420 said, Grammy, you're bleeding. 147 00:08:29,980 --> 00:08:33,799 And I didn't feel anything. It didn't hurt, and it was just dripping blood. 148 00:08:34,059 --> 00:08:35,760 Did your hands go inside the dryer? 149 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,760 No, there's nothing sharp. I went back and looked, and there was nothing. 150 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,200 So is anything else physical going on? So I woke up in the middle of the night 151 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,200 pinned down. 152 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:45,840 Really? Mm -hmm. 153 00:08:45,940 --> 00:08:47,000 How did it feel to you? 154 00:08:47,290 --> 00:08:50,450 Was it like a human on top of you? Like arms and legs, like across me and on 155 00:08:50,450 --> 00:08:52,270 top, like something was laying on top of me. 156 00:08:52,670 --> 00:08:56,430 Okay. Is it possible you were dreaming? I was awake and moving my limbs and 157 00:08:56,430 --> 00:08:58,370 trying to get out of it. I could move everything. 158 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:03,210 Really? Yes. And then another time I was laying on my side, it pushed me from my 159 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:07,670 side onto my stomach and then held me down when I was in the bed. When you're 160 00:09:07,670 --> 00:09:10,170 getting pinned down like that, does it feel sexual at all? 161 00:09:10,410 --> 00:09:13,310 No, it feels violent, like somebody's trying to hurt me. 162 00:09:13,630 --> 00:09:16,290 I've been through a lot in my life. I would have ran the hell out of this 163 00:09:16,290 --> 00:09:17,290 if it was me. 164 00:09:20,410 --> 00:09:23,430 I feel really, really sick up here. 165 00:09:26,410 --> 00:09:27,410 What's going on? 166 00:09:28,090 --> 00:09:34,450 Having really bad neck pain, extreme nausea, fevery. 167 00:09:35,770 --> 00:09:41,410 Maybe it's her, maybe the older woman, because I know that she was sick for a 168 00:09:41,410 --> 00:09:42,410 long time. 169 00:09:46,410 --> 00:09:49,810 In here, I see physical interaction with somebody. 170 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:54,170 Like, and she's, like, smacking them or trying to smack them. 171 00:09:54,450 --> 00:09:59,710 And saying, like, stop being a little... This is bad. 172 00:10:00,850 --> 00:10:01,850 Weird. 173 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,800 So Emma, how old are you? 174 00:10:26,260 --> 00:10:27,440 Nine, about to be ten. 175 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,080 Do you sleep in this room or a different room? This room. 176 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,420 So would you mind telling me about some of the things that scare you? 177 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:40,740 Most of the nights that I spend the night here, I see this family, and it 178 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:42,300 looks like that they're getting murdered. 179 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,820 Can you describe them for me, what it looks like? 180 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,600 They're a sister, a brother, a mother, and a father. 181 00:10:49,820 --> 00:10:53,640 Okay. They're just standing there out that window. 182 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,200 Out this window here? 183 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:56,300 Yeah. 184 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,700 Does that make you afraid to come here and sleep over? 185 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,660 It's got to the point where I've gotten used to it by now. 186 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,580 Really? There are a lot of ghosts in this house, so yeah. 187 00:11:06,980 --> 00:11:07,980 Hmm. 188 00:11:08,660 --> 00:11:11,080 So, Emma, you know the girl I work with, Amy, right? 189 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:14,500 Yeah. Do you know what she does, how her abilities are? 190 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,180 Yeah. Do you think you'll like that? 191 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:19,920 I only have half of her abilities. 192 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:22,400 Mostly I only have what I can see and hear. 193 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,520 Okay. How long has that been going on? 194 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:26,140 Since I was born. 195 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:28,020 So since you were a little girl? 196 00:11:28,220 --> 00:11:30,220 Yeah. Okay. All right. Anything else, honey? 197 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:35,720 Actually, just a few weeks ago, I was going to get up out of bed and something 198 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,720 pushed me down. 199 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,700 Did you feel hands or did it feel just like a force coming at you? 200 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:46,160 It felt like energy, kind of. Do you have any idea why all these things are 201 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,140 happening here? Maybe they might all just be lost souls. 202 00:11:49,540 --> 00:11:50,780 So if they're... 203 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,660 Lost souls, you think they need help? 204 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,540 Nah. What do you think? 205 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,320 I just think that they were just looking for some place to haunt. 206 00:11:57,820 --> 00:11:58,820 Okay. 207 00:12:00,740 --> 00:12:04,660 The old woman's sitting there. She has a routine that she does. 208 00:12:07,740 --> 00:12:09,300 She's taking a head count. 209 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:10,700 Uh, 210 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,880 people? 211 00:12:12,660 --> 00:12:14,840 There's one, and then you go there. 212 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:18,200 Okay, maybe somebody's in here. Okay, somebody's in here. 213 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,340 And then somebody's in there. 214 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,060 And then she will start running back and forth. 215 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:32,280 And then she'll just go with the ones that she feels like. But, yeah, I do see 216 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,100 physical altercations with the living. 217 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:44,400 I see, like, her at some point hovering, like, above 218 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,780 someone in here. 219 00:12:46,630 --> 00:12:51,650 And I see, like, I believe it's a female, and they're turning over and, 220 00:12:51,690 --> 00:12:56,290 smooshing their face down, like, oh, hell no. You know, this is not 221 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:05,570 So, Scott, I got to tell you, this is an amazing place. I mean, you got 222 00:13:05,570 --> 00:13:09,770 chickens, you got goats, you got a pool. I mean, what more can you ask for? 223 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:10,969 Oh, yeah. 224 00:13:10,970 --> 00:13:14,250 So, Scott, I understand that you dabble in the paranormal a little bit. 225 00:13:14,570 --> 00:13:20,650 I did amateur stuff where I had my little meter, my EMF meter. I had my 226 00:13:20,650 --> 00:13:21,870 and I had my recorder. 227 00:13:22,230 --> 00:13:25,770 And I got a book that was all the haunted hotels in Arizona. 228 00:13:26,170 --> 00:13:29,370 Do you think you might have brought something home here? I have no idea. But 229 00:13:29,370 --> 00:13:32,630 being an amateur, you don't protect yourself. 230 00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:35,370 Right. I didn't know how to do that. So I have no idea. 231 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:39,990 So what experiences have you had? I have these extreme anxiety. 232 00:13:40,530 --> 00:13:43,870 I have this extreme paranoia. I have anger. 233 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,940 So Joanne mentioned that to me. She says you're a completely different person 234 00:13:47,940 --> 00:13:48,940 when you're in the house. 235 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:52,840 Do you agree with that? I do agree with that because I can feel it when I walk 236 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,699 into the house. 237 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:55,020 Be honest, is that your personality? 238 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:57,100 It's not. I'm usually very sedate. 239 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:02,960 The old lady really hates the living man here. 240 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,920 She says he has telepathy. 241 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:09,520 She thinks this is a bad person. 242 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Needs to go. 243 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,080 Needs to get out. Bad person. 244 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:20,520 male is abusive and this male says horrible things so she 245 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:26,720 you know needs to stop that i know she's mentally ill and sick and 246 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:33,160 confused so i'm like do i take this with a grain of salt or is this real 247 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:39,640 she does not like this person at all and it's like she's gonna take him out 248 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,980 like she's on a mission 249 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:45,760 All right, Scott, anything else? 250 00:14:46,020 --> 00:14:50,860 Well, I've got this heaviness, this outside pressure pushing on me, and it 251 00:14:50,860 --> 00:14:52,500 like it's almost twisting my heart. 252 00:14:52,780 --> 00:14:55,960 I assume we're about the same age that you had this checked. 253 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,920 I did, and there is nothing cardiac -related that would just come like that 254 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,460 rest and go away just as quickly. 255 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:03,080 All right, Scott, anything else? 256 00:15:03,420 --> 00:15:08,400 Yeah, like coming down the steps, all of a sudden there was a force that pushed 257 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,520 me forward, and I landed on top of the tile floor. 258 00:15:13,230 --> 00:15:14,430 You're lucky it didn't break your neck. 259 00:15:14,630 --> 00:15:15,630 Oh, I am lucky. 260 00:15:15,830 --> 00:15:19,210 And you think the end game for this, whatever's here, wants you out or wants 261 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:20,169 physically hurt you? 262 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:21,410 Both. Medically. 263 00:15:21,810 --> 00:15:22,810 Okay. 264 00:15:26,450 --> 00:15:31,570 She does hate that male. When she's focused on him, it's like she's there. 265 00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:33,010 Like, it's happening. 266 00:15:33,250 --> 00:15:34,430 That's going down. 267 00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:37,910 What do you think that happened to him? 268 00:15:38,390 --> 00:15:41,250 I think she would like him just to die. You know, yeah. 269 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:42,760 Just to be gone. 270 00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:02,920 Except for the 115 degree heat, I like working cases in Arizona. 271 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,260 By now, I've got a whole bunch of contacts here. One of them, a local 272 00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:10,140 says one of the earliest owners of Joanne and Scott's property. 273 00:16:10,590 --> 00:16:12,430 has a story I'm going to want to know about. 274 00:16:18,930 --> 00:16:21,410 So, Marshall, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 275 00:16:21,890 --> 00:16:23,810 Okay, so who was this original owner? 276 00:16:24,210 --> 00:16:25,490 His name is Fred Cox. 277 00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:27,390 Okay. He was from Ohio. 278 00:16:27,630 --> 00:16:33,810 He became a mechanical engineer and started seeing the West and how mining 279 00:16:33,810 --> 00:16:38,750 exploding out here. And so he packed up his wife, Winetta. Okay. His only son, 280 00:16:38,850 --> 00:16:42,330 Vernon. And they eventually moved right here to Arizona. 281 00:16:42,610 --> 00:16:46,490 Okay, what time frame are we talking about? Early 1900s. Okay, so Marshall, 282 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:49,370 he's here with his wife and his kid. How's it go with this whole mining 283 00:16:49,610 --> 00:16:53,490 So he gets here and gets a management job with a mine. So things are going 284 00:16:53,490 --> 00:16:54,349 really well. 285 00:16:54,350 --> 00:16:58,930 But within that first year, the mine company folds. 286 00:16:59,410 --> 00:17:03,290 So he kind of fell back on his prior knowledge and started drilling wells. 287 00:17:03,950 --> 00:17:04,709 For water. 288 00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:06,010 You had said he was a mechanical engineer. 289 00:17:06,250 --> 00:17:08,130 Right. When did he wind up on my client's property? 290 00:17:08,849 --> 00:17:12,869 1915 is when he acquires the property that your client's house sits on today. 291 00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:14,670 I assume this is when things start going bad? 292 00:17:14,990 --> 00:17:17,930 Indeed. Juanita is diagnosed with diabetes. 293 00:17:18,430 --> 00:17:25,270 And so in 1924, she falls ill and winds up being rushed to the hospital where 294 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:31,590 she spends four days in agony. And May 12th, she passes away at the age of 53. 295 00:17:32,170 --> 00:17:33,170 What was the cause of death? 296 00:17:33,390 --> 00:17:37,150 So that's what's really interesting. You'll notice that on the death 297 00:17:37,150 --> 00:17:38,910 certificate, it says diabetes. 298 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:43,490 But underneath that, the doctor writes, I don't know. 299 00:17:44,570 --> 00:17:47,550 It's almost a joke, right? I've never seen that before. 300 00:17:51,770 --> 00:17:53,950 I think this old woman had a hard life. 301 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:56,350 She's in a hospital. 302 00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:59,270 She was very ill for a long time. 303 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:06,060 She had horrible breathing issues and a lot of chest pain while she was sick. 304 00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:14,400 I think that if the living, you know, she's around them, they might experience 305 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,480 the same symptoms. 306 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:24,400 I'm seeing her, like, here now. Like, when she was alive, she might have been 307 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,800 little off too, you know. 308 00:18:29,550 --> 00:18:30,750 Almost made it worse. 309 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,650 It feels like she's attached to the land. 310 00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:39,710 And there's like some anger about this. 311 00:18:41,730 --> 00:18:44,970 I keep thinking about what Joanne told me about her son -in -law killing 312 00:18:44,970 --> 00:18:49,570 himself. My daughter lost her husband to suicide about seven years ago. 313 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:52,690 So I reached out to Joanne's daughter, Stephanie. 314 00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:56,790 Now, she says it's a painful story, but she's willing to talk about it if it 315 00:18:56,790 --> 00:18:57,790 will help her mom. 316 00:19:02,899 --> 00:19:06,080 Well, Stephanie, I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me, especially 317 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,800 about something this personal. 318 00:19:08,860 --> 00:19:12,500 Before we get into what all happened, I mean, what can you tell me about him as 319 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:14,660 far as his personality and the type of guy he was? 320 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,320 He was a good guy. 321 00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:23,920 He always smiled, 322 00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:28,600 and he was funny and witty and charming. 323 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:29,900 Yeah, what do you take? 324 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:31,620 I always have a fresh tank. 325 00:19:32,410 --> 00:19:39,310 hanky with me so what happened i mean in the past when i've 326 00:19:39,310 --> 00:19:43,090 had friends of mine do something like this everybody asked me well did you see 327 00:19:43,090 --> 00:19:50,070 it coming not at first no um about six months before he passed away he got 328 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:56,470 really weird he started making idle threats to kill himself 329 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,860 For about a month or so before he died, he would wake up every morning shaking, 330 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,720 like feverishly, like just shaking so much so the entire bed would shake. 331 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:14,420 And he would just scream, help me, help me, help me. 332 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,040 And nothing I did could control him. Nothing I did could calm him. 333 00:20:18,260 --> 00:20:21,180 Was it dreams he was having or was it just he was having an episode? 334 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,339 He was awake. 335 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:23,319 He was awake. 336 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,180 Wide awake. I mean, I could try to talk to him and he would just grab me by my 337 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:28,180 forearms. 338 00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:31,900 You don't understand. You don't get it. You don't get it. You can't see what I 339 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:32,900 see. You don't understand. 340 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,900 And he was, like, possessed. 341 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:39,800 All right, so I know this is probably difficult to talk about, but, you know, 342 00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:41,780 take me up to what happened. 343 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,160 When I found out I was pregnant, you know, I sat him down, had a long talk 344 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,080 about, if you can't get this under control, you need to move out. 345 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:52,580 And so we got into a huge argument that morning. 346 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,600 I shut the door behind him and locked it, and he got so angry he kicked the 347 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,860 in. So I called the cop, you know, and they came and he left. 348 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:05,280 How soon after this argument did they find him? Was it that day? 349 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:06,740 Two days later. 350 00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:09,460 He was missing for two days and you didn't know where he was? 351 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:15,180 No, I called everywhere. I called hospitals, police departments. I filed a 352 00:21:15,180 --> 00:21:15,959 police report. 353 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,380 I had friends and family help me search for him. 354 00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:24,380 So I assume you get notified that he's been found. 355 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,420 It was Sunday morning. 356 00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:32,870 The detective called me, said he was on his way to the house and that we had to 357 00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:36,810 talk. I knew it wasn't going to be good. 358 00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:44,310 He took his belt off and he 359 00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:47,970 strangled himself in the front seat of the car, willingly. 360 00:21:48,590 --> 00:21:50,930 I've investigated thousands of suicides. 361 00:21:53,530 --> 00:21:55,010 That's pretty rare. 362 00:21:59,050 --> 00:22:03,710 Yeah. Your mom thinks that maybe he's here. 363 00:22:04,030 --> 00:22:06,050 What's your thoughts on that, if you have any? 364 00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:13,050 For me, to think that he would still be here in that state, 365 00:22:13,330 --> 00:22:15,590 it's devastating. 366 00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:23,990 There's a lot of stuff going on. 367 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:25,530 What's going on? 368 00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:27,410 I think it's a male. 369 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,220 I'm scared. I'm freaking out. 370 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:34,500 I can't feel my body. I'm not feeling my body anymore. 371 00:22:34,780 --> 00:22:37,520 And then I'm feeling like I'm dying. I'm dying. 372 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,820 I can't breathe. 373 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:50,880 For more information about the show, and if you need us to investigate 374 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,440 unexplained activity in your home, please visit TravelChannel .com slash 375 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,379 Dead Files. 376 00:22:56,380 --> 00:22:59,640 Click on Help Me, Dead Files to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 377 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:13,460 So far, I have a family scared to death of their home, which has a long history 378 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:15,300 of tragedy and premature deaths. 379 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,380 But I want to see if there's anything else. 380 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,740 Searching for old records, I come across Linda Vallon. 381 00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:28,320 This woman killed a man in self -defense just down the road from Joanne and 382 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,320 Scott's house. 383 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,720 So I made some calls and managed to track down Linda's brother, Daniel. Now, 384 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,180 he's willing to talk to me about what happened, but tells me things did not 385 00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:39,180 well for his sister. 386 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,820 So, Daniel, I know this is tough to talk about. 387 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:55,430 Let's start from the beginning. What can you tell me about your sister? 388 00:23:55,670 --> 00:24:00,330 Growing up, my sister was very loving. As far as siblings go, we got along real 389 00:24:00,330 --> 00:24:04,250 well. Describe her personality for me. Was she introverted? What kind of a 390 00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:05,290 was she? Very outgoing. 391 00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:08,170 Here's a picture of her when she was younger. 392 00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:11,670 Very good looking young lady. She was real charmer. 393 00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:17,490 Could have any guy she wanted, but made some bad choices. Met some bad men. 394 00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:20,870 The guy she shot, what can you tell me about him? 395 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:27,240 Thomas Latimer, he was a 34 -year -old truck driver, worked all day, drank in 396 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,320 the bars all night. I never liked the guy personally. 397 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,400 My research said that on October 13, 1993 is when the shooting happened. What 398 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,279 happened that night? 399 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Previous to this, she had filed, I believe, a restraining order on the guy. 400 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,800 That evening, she was unlocking her door to a townhouse. When she got the door 401 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,520 open, he rushed her from the back, pushed her into the condo. 402 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:52,360 He told her, you're about to take your last breath. 403 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,220 He came there to kill her. 404 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:56,379 What happened next? 405 00:24:56,380 --> 00:25:00,880 She made it up the stairs, had her purse in her hand, reached in her purse, 406 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,640 pulled out a four -shot Derringer. 407 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,580 She turned and shot him dead. 408 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:06,340 Did they wind up charging her? 409 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:10,760 No, they didn't charge her. They were thinking about charging her until they 410 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,040 their investigation and realized he had come there to kill her. 411 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,200 Something's happening. 412 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,400 Something's happening. 413 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,280 A panic. Oh, my God, what do I do? What do I do? 414 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:24,980 I think it's a male. 415 00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:27,300 There's some pain here. 416 00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:33,440 I do hear yelling, like a fight. I'm thinking the male got hurt or killed. 417 00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:43,340 So after the shooting, you said things didn't end well for Linda. What 418 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,500 She met another man. His name was E .J. Mackey. 419 00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:51,650 I'd met the guy several times. Wasn't real friendly. Didn't like this guy 420 00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:52,650 very much. 421 00:25:53,170 --> 00:25:55,690 Turned out to be another abusive relationship. 422 00:25:55,890 --> 00:25:59,390 And one thing led to another. They had gotten in a big hassle. 423 00:25:59,630 --> 00:26:00,630 Cops came. 424 00:26:00,710 --> 00:26:04,250 He got charged with domestic violence. He was sent to jail. 425 00:26:04,450 --> 00:26:07,290 So what went up? He got out of prison. 426 00:26:07,650 --> 00:26:11,270 Well, no one ever notified my sister of him being released. 427 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:15,570 On July 15th, 1995, EJ walks up to her. 428 00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:19,750 He shoots her in the head, blows the back of her head off, turns around and 429 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:21,010 shoots himself in the head. 430 00:26:22,050 --> 00:26:24,250 Here's a paper here. 431 00:26:26,170 --> 00:26:28,290 So the article says she was 43 when she was killed? 432 00:26:28,570 --> 00:26:31,510 Yes, sir. She was 43 years old. What a shame. Young girl. 433 00:26:31,910 --> 00:26:34,910 I'm sorry to hear that. You know, every family has tragedies, right? Yes. 434 00:26:35,490 --> 00:26:36,610 Pretty brutal one. 435 00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:37,830 Yeah, this was. 436 00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:42,910 I'm feeling like I'm dying again. 437 00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:44,570 This is a younger woman. 438 00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:46,590 A time frame. 439 00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:51,250 It feels like 30 years feels recent. 440 00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:54,630 I mean, it just feels so raw. 441 00:27:00,470 --> 00:27:02,190 It's so thick and heavy. 442 00:27:02,810 --> 00:27:06,650 There's also a lot of anger and fear. 443 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,140 I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, but the dead old woman tormenting 444 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:24,960 living male has me the most concerned. 445 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,680 She was very petite, thin. 446 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:34,420 She's got like a slight hunch on the upper part of her back. He's sitting in 447 00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:35,680 this lazy boy chair. 448 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,160 When she gets around him, she thinks of all these ways that she would like to do 449 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,700 away with him because she hates him so much. 450 00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:52,780 Amy, is this what you saw? 451 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:54,920 Yes, that's what I saw. 452 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,500 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal 453 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:20,500 findings to each other. 454 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,700 And our clients for the first time. 455 00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:26,200 So, Scott and Joanne, I want you to meet Amy. 456 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:30,260 She's going to be doing a reveal from one of your rooms here. This way she can 457 00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:33,120 focus on your case and the dead without being disturbed. 458 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,460 Amy, I don't know how much you were able to see during your walk, but Scott and 459 00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:40,340 Joanne have an incredible place here. This is their dream home. 460 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,720 They live here alone, but they wanted a huge place for their kids and their 461 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,860 grandkids. Now, obviously things didn't work out or else we wouldn't be here. 462 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:53,240 What they're hoping is that you can show them a way to make this house safe for 463 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,179 everybody to enjoy. 464 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:58,080 So unless Amy's got some questions for you, she'll tell us about her walk. 465 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:07,680 So when I first got here, I saw white eyes 466 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,980 staring at me. 467 00:29:09,460 --> 00:29:12,180 Knew it was a male, probably a teen. 468 00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:16,540 I think the living, if you were to see him... 469 00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:20,450 it would be more than likely as a type of shadow person. 470 00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:25,570 I see shadows out of the corner of my eye, and I'll see, it's hard to explain, 471 00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:30,310 but it's like a reverse negative, where they just are very clear. 472 00:29:30,670 --> 00:29:37,410 Yeah. The unfortunate thing is, is that this male is influencing 473 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:40,470 a living male to be bad. 474 00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:45,590 And one other thing, the living male in this house has a form of... 475 00:29:45,790 --> 00:29:47,170 telepathy themselves. 476 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:50,470 Scott's the only living male in the house. 477 00:29:50,690 --> 00:29:53,250 So could we assume it's Scott you're talking about? 478 00:29:53,470 --> 00:29:54,470 Yes. 479 00:29:55,150 --> 00:29:59,210 I would have thought that I would be the last person here in this house that had 480 00:29:59,210 --> 00:30:02,210 anything. What exactly is a telepathic person? 481 00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:08,270 An individual who can know other people 482 00:30:08,270 --> 00:30:13,690 instantaneously. Like they'll just know that person, like their personality, 483 00:30:14,130 --> 00:30:15,130 their traits. 484 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,340 You guys had a reaction to what you were talking about. 485 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:21,980 It happens all the time. That's weird. All the time. Yeah. 486 00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:24,680 I'm afraid to think anything around. 487 00:30:25,340 --> 00:30:28,680 So you said that the teenage kid is influencing the male in the house? 488 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,140 Correct. In what way? 489 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:35,760 Basically putting thoughts or feelings to do things that you wouldn't 490 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,140 necessarily normally do. 491 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,920 Now, we talked about mood changes. 492 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,260 Yeah, because I can be sitting by myself. 493 00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:49,000 In a room watching some TV and then just become all of a sudden overwhelmed with 494 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,839 some anger. 495 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,540 Does that sound like this little teenager? 496 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Okay. 497 00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:59,580 Now, I didn't come across any dead teenagers in my research, but I got to 498 00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:03,080 you out on this. It's probably a good time to tell you that Scott likes to go 499 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,300 haunted hotels and stuff. 500 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:05,500 And sometimes you stay the night. 501 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,759 Oh, yeah. 502 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,440 Is it possible he brought something home from one of these locations? 503 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,000 Yeah, that's a possibility. 504 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:18,240 There's one other thing I want to bring up. I just need to let her know about 505 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,240 their son -in -law. 506 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,180 His name was Andy, and he killed himself about, what, six years ago? 507 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,600 And I have a photo of him with their daughter Stephanie. 508 00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:33,100 And it happened pretty close to here. 509 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,660 Now, Joanne thinks he may still be in this house. 510 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Any thoughts on that, Amy? 511 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,900 I don't really get a sense of him. 512 00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:48,080 Which is a good thing. 513 00:31:48,620 --> 00:31:50,020 Yeah, it is, actually. 514 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,560 It means he's probably moved on. 515 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,320 So I'm going to get into the other person who's very, very active here. 516 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,020 What I saw was an elderly woman. 517 00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:06,740 Whenever she's in the kitchen, she's throwing a fit. 518 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,240 She does move things around. 519 00:32:09,580 --> 00:32:12,460 She does like to throw things around in there. 520 00:32:12,740 --> 00:32:18,940 So I felt like you guys would potentially have a lot of experiences 521 00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:21,240 with the kitchen. 522 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,980 Oh, yeah. Drawers open. 523 00:32:23,380 --> 00:32:27,300 I hear a lot of noise over there in the morning, especially if I'm here by 524 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:33,800 myself. And put something down, and I know I left it there, and it's gone. 525 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:34,900 And I'll find it. 526 00:32:35,130 --> 00:32:37,270 Somewhere in a really odd, bizarre place. 527 00:32:38,030 --> 00:32:44,990 She's also, strangely, able to gather a lot of energy in that location. 528 00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:50,030 So I wouldn't be surprised if lights are affected and things like that in that 529 00:32:50,030 --> 00:32:53,130 particular area because she's drawn from every source of energy. 530 00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:57,070 I'll be watching TV and the thing will just stop. It'll shut off. 531 00:32:57,550 --> 00:33:00,410 And I'll think I need to do something, then it comes back on. 532 00:33:00,670 --> 00:33:02,310 And that sounds like it's this woman? 533 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:03,630 Yeah. 534 00:33:05,470 --> 00:33:07,750 Just, yeah, it's just crazy. 535 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:10,810 So did you get anything on this old hag when she was alive? 536 00:33:11,150 --> 00:33:14,010 She indicated that she had been sick for a long time. 537 00:33:14,210 --> 00:33:20,590 She indicated that she had chest pains and horrible breathing issues. 538 00:33:20,910 --> 00:33:25,050 There was also some, you know, her being a little, you know, mentally off. 539 00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:29,950 I got that she had a very strong attachment to the land here. 540 00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:35,540 There's a lot of anger and a lot of misery connected. 541 00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:40,320 Not a lot to go on, but a couple of things she said remind me of a previous 542 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,980 landowner. Now, back in the early 1900s, this was a big mining area. 543 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,280 A guy named Fred Cox moved his family here to try to strike a risk. 544 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,600 It didn't go well. 545 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,460 I guess within the first year, he lost his job. 546 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,600 His wife, Juanita, was pissed, but they still wound up staying. 547 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:02,180 So now in 1915, he bought 160 acres of land, which included this property. 548 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,260 She was not well, Juanita, his wife. 549 00:34:04,460 --> 00:34:06,940 She had suffered from diabetes for years. 550 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,320 Now in 1923, Juanita got really sick. 551 00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:14,520 She suffered for four long days in the hospital before she died. 552 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,980 She was just 53 years old. The odd thing about it is I got her death certificate 553 00:34:18,980 --> 00:34:21,400 here. It says cause of death, diabetes. 554 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,940 And underneath it, it says, I don't know. 555 00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:27,800 I'd never seen anything like this before on a death certificate. 556 00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:32,540 Wow. So now you said you were concerned about this woman. I'm assuming it's not 557 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:33,860 just because she freaks out in the kitchen. 558 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:40,300 One of the things that I felt living people would experience when they're in 559 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:47,000 close proximity with her is kind of feeling sick, like flu -like 560 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,639 symptoms, and like nausea. They throw up frequently. 561 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,300 It comes on extremely nauseated. I'm very sick. I have to run and throw up. 562 00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:59,820 And as quickly as it comes, it goes away. 563 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:06,700 One of the things I saw her do one night was she was literally floating, 564 00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:11,420 like, over a person. And I got that it was a living female. 565 00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:18,400 And I felt like the living female was either seeing her or knew she was there 566 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,680 her face and was like... 567 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:23,910 smushing her face into the pillow to be like, oh, no, this is not happening. 568 00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:27,970 I was laying on my back, and all of a sudden I felt somebody laying on me, 569 00:35:27,970 --> 00:35:30,390 someone was coming across me with arms and legs. 570 00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:35,250 And I know I was awake because I was able to move my limbs, and I fought out 571 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:36,770 from under it, and it went away. 572 00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:39,590 Something was just pushing on me. 573 00:35:39,870 --> 00:35:41,110 Well, you got scratched, too. 574 00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:42,029 I did. 575 00:35:42,030 --> 00:35:43,470 I actually have a photo of it here. 576 00:35:44,610 --> 00:35:46,450 This came out of nowhere, right? It came out of nowhere. 577 00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:48,090 Interesting. 578 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,640 And then in another room, in here, I see physical interaction with somebody. 579 00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:59,620 Like, and she's, like, smacking them or trying to smack them and saying, like, 580 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,680 stop being a little. 581 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:06,080 So, obviously, we know upstairs is where the kids and the grandkids sleep when 582 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,160 they come over. I spoke to one of those kids. 583 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,640 This is Emma, Amy. 584 00:36:10,580 --> 00:36:11,940 She's absolutely precious. 585 00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:16,200 Tell Amy about the time Emma got shoved in bed. 586 00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:20,770 Yeah, she told me that she got up, she was going to use the bathroom, and she 587 00:36:20,770 --> 00:36:22,190 got forced back into the bed. 588 00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:27,130 Now, Emma thinks she has abilities like you. 589 00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:32,130 She told me she's a family of dead people outside the porch where she 590 00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:37,650 Yeah. All bloody, standing out there. It sounds like she definitely has 591 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:38,650 abilities. 592 00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:44,010 She needs to learn protections and boundaries. 593 00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:45,470 Trust me. 594 00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:47,790 You don't want her suffering from PTSD. 595 00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:52,850 Now, this old lady, is she doing anything else? 596 00:36:53,230 --> 00:36:58,010 She was showing me that she had her sights set on a living male here. 597 00:36:58,870 --> 00:37:03,990 It's because she feels that this living male is a bad person. 598 00:37:05,110 --> 00:37:07,010 She told me he's abusive. 599 00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:09,550 We're talking about Scott here. 600 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:11,470 He's the only living male in the house. 601 00:37:11,710 --> 00:37:17,110 Right. I was feeling from her that this might be a projection of somebody she 602 00:37:17,110 --> 00:37:18,390 hated during her life. 603 00:37:18,910 --> 00:37:23,390 So I did have a sketch done of what she would like to do to this person. 604 00:37:25,130 --> 00:37:27,430 I wonder what else she's capable of. 605 00:37:27,630 --> 00:37:29,570 Yeah, that's the scariest part. 606 00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:33,530 I'm not going to like this. 607 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,860 This looks exactly like how I sit. 608 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,020 In that chair? In that chair and get the most issues. 609 00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:53,060 It's hard to explain. Sometimes it feels like something reaches in and twists 610 00:37:53,060 --> 00:37:54,060 your heart. 611 00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:58,820 He's a nurse. They notice symptoms, so it's like he's not over -exaggerating 612 00:37:58,820 --> 00:37:59,718 things, right? 613 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:01,740 You've had some other stuff happen to you physically. 614 00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:07,080 On my way down these steps to the kitchen, and it didn't feel like hands. 615 00:38:07,460 --> 00:38:08,780 It felt like energy. 616 00:38:09,610 --> 00:38:13,850 And then the front of my body propelled faster than my feet, and I missed three 617 00:38:13,850 --> 00:38:16,170 whole steps and landed on the hard tile. 618 00:38:16,610 --> 00:38:18,990 Do we think this is all this old lady doing that to Scott? 619 00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:20,250 Well, yeah. 620 00:38:20,770 --> 00:38:24,390 And I'm, like, really pissed. 621 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:26,430 Me too. 622 00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:31,110 So I'm curious, if they hadn't have called us, could this old lady have 623 00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:32,110 killed Scott? 624 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:33,310 Yes. 625 00:38:35,410 --> 00:38:37,330 I mean, that's fully her intention. 626 00:38:38,060 --> 00:38:39,200 I did not see that coming. 627 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,220 Well, this night's been a surprise. 628 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,840 You were both worried about your grandkids. 629 00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:06,740 Turns out, Scott, you're the one that seems to be in the most danger. 630 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,720 Now we've got to find out what, if anything, you can do to fix this. For 631 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,760 I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 632 00:39:16,060 --> 00:39:21,720 There's a lot going on here, so I want you to contact a Reiki master, a 633 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,440 and a physical medium. 634 00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:31,760 Scott, I am thinking that you got an attachment, which is the telepathic 635 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,420 team. So what I would like to be done first, is a cord removal 636 00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:39,900 from Scott. 637 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,540 So the person who will do this is the Reiki master. 638 00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:47,520 The Reiki is going to cut the cord is what you're saying, right? Correct, 639 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,200 will return him back to where he came from. 640 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:57,240 The second thing I would like to have happen is another physical medium will 641 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:04,080 come and take this old woman out of your house, and then they'll 642 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,180 take her home and move her on. 643 00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:14,130 The third thing then is going to be them setting up a boundary around your 644 00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:17,770 property so that the dead cat can't come in. 645 00:40:19,090 --> 00:40:21,790 Now, should Scott stop going to these haunted locations? 646 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:29,410 No, not necessarily. It's just he needs to learn proper protection methods, 647 00:40:29,590 --> 00:40:34,710 setting up the boundaries on your property line so they can't follow you 648 00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:36,030 Should they... 649 00:40:36,190 --> 00:40:39,690 Keep the grandkids away until this is all done? Yeah, I would, yeah. 650 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:43,150 I always ask, are you going to take Amy's advice? 651 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:45,290 Absolutely. Yeah. 652 00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:46,870 Yeah, I'm calling tomorrow. 653 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:48,610 All right, good. Yeah, good. 654 00:40:49,090 --> 00:40:53,370 I feel so much better knowing that we can get rid of it. Yeah. 655 00:40:53,610 --> 00:40:54,610 And stay. 656 00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:55,788 And stay. 657 00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:59,550 That's good news. That's very good news. Yeah. I'm very happy. We can take over 658 00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:00,550 our own house. 659 00:41:00,770 --> 00:41:02,450 Well, I'm happy for you guys. 660 00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:03,790 Yeah, thank you. 661 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,640 Scott and Joanne have a lot of work to do, but I'm confident they can get it 662 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,420 done with the help of a Reiki master, a psychic, and a physical medium. 663 00:41:15,020 --> 00:41:18,740 As soon as they block out and remove the dead, they can get back to spending 664 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:22,120 time with their family safely in their dream home. 665 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:32,900 We did follow Amy's advice, and all of our spirits and negative energies are 666 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:38,170 gone. We were able to have the physical medium come with her team. She was able 667 00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:43,670 to remove all the negative energy as well as any of the negative spirits that 668 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:48,750 were attached to me. She was also able to help this angry older woman that was 669 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:52,010 in our home, help her to be able to peacefully cross over. 670 00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:56,730 And so the only regret I think that we have is that we didn't call you sooner. 671 00:41:57,490 --> 00:41:59,710 Thank you guys again. We appreciate you. 58062

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