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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,460 --> 00:00:12,280 Creeping bad, bad man. 2 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,140 He loves looking in windows. 3 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:18,680 I believe he's trying to kill us both. 4 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:22,360 Felt like it was on top of me, trying to choke out the air. 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,760 This was a sexual thing for him. 6 00:00:28,060 --> 00:00:30,360 So how many bodies are we talking? Talking nine. 7 00:00:30,780 --> 00:00:33,220 He gets off on stalking people. 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,420 He's like laughing, like thick. 9 00:00:39,450 --> 00:00:41,210 Ooh, the dark is getting darker. 10 00:00:41,650 --> 00:00:43,110 My name is Amy Allen. 11 00:00:43,770 --> 00:00:45,050 I see dead people. 12 00:00:45,290 --> 00:00:46,830 There is a skinwalker here. 13 00:00:47,310 --> 00:00:49,230 I speak to dead people. 14 00:00:49,530 --> 00:00:50,970 And they speak to me. 15 00:00:51,650 --> 00:00:53,410 He wants to collect the women. 16 00:00:53,690 --> 00:00:56,690 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 17 00:00:57,150 --> 00:01:00,330 They're stalking the life out of these people. 18 00:01:00,910 --> 00:01:02,470 I rely on my partner. 19 00:01:02,750 --> 00:01:05,950 I'm Steve DeShavit. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 20 00:01:06,410 --> 00:01:09,470 This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. And I know every person, 21 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:11,970 every house has secrets. 22 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:16,810 It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate 23 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:17,810 during an investigation. 24 00:01:18,070 --> 00:01:19,350 Until the very end. 25 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:20,830 Is that what I think it is? 26 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:25,230 Yes. When we uncover if it saved you to stay. I told you he was trying to kill 27 00:01:25,230 --> 00:01:26,230 me. 28 00:01:26,350 --> 00:01:30,510 We're time to get out. You have a dead person inside you. 29 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,700 I'm out here in Fresno. It's about halfway between San Francisco and Los 30 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:51,760 Angeles. I got a call from a couple, Cindy and Steven. 31 00:01:52,340 --> 00:01:55,960 Now, a few years ago, they moved into what was supposed to be their retirement 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,360 home, and things quickly went to hell. We don't know what to do, where to turn, 33 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:01,399 where to go. 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Living in our house has become something I wouldn't necessarily call life. 35 00:02:07,180 --> 00:02:09,960 They seem like good people, and I'm hoping Amy and I can help them out. 36 00:02:20,620 --> 00:02:21,800 This is not good. 37 00:02:23,140 --> 00:02:26,460 I encountered four graves specifically. 38 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:33,280 And there was a woman, a dead woman, that had wrapped herself around the 39 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:39,180 headstone. And she was in full morning wear. I would put her 1910. 40 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:44,360 I kind of approached her and she turned into like an... 41 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,020 super old hag -looking woman and was literally hissing at me. 42 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,980 Well, Cindy, I'm glad to be here. 43 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,940 Obviously, you were pretty upset when we spoke on the phone. 44 00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:02,880 It's a beautiful home. I mean, what's going on here? 45 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:10,100 It's a... It's literally a living nightmare. 46 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,200 So let's start with the basics. 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,680 Who lives here in the house? 48 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,400 Me and my husband, Steve. 49 00:03:17,180 --> 00:03:21,380 This is supposed to be our retirement home, and it was enough room for the 50 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:23,760 grandkids. It was enough room for everybody. 51 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,220 Do you keep the grandkids away because of that? We don't invite them over, and 52 00:03:28,220 --> 00:03:33,280 if they do, we do a lot of preemptive things to try to stop things from 53 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,280 happening. 54 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:35,580 Like what? What are you guys doing? 55 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:38,460 Blessings on the house, holy water. 56 00:03:38,860 --> 00:03:40,880 We've joined the Catholic Church. 57 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:42,890 Just to join it all because of this? 58 00:03:43,090 --> 00:03:46,070 Because of everything going on here. They did a house blessing. 59 00:03:46,330 --> 00:03:51,250 Okay. They've done three exorcisms and a house exorcism as well. 60 00:03:51,730 --> 00:03:56,230 I mean, that's incredible because the Catholic Church is usually very, you 61 00:03:56,230 --> 00:03:57,690 if they get them to do one, it's a miracle. 62 00:03:58,610 --> 00:04:01,890 All right, so Cindy, do me a favor and give me a list of what the hell's going 63 00:04:01,890 --> 00:04:02,589 on here. 64 00:04:02,590 --> 00:04:03,970 I feel like I'm being watched. 65 00:04:04,650 --> 00:04:05,650 Mood changes. 66 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:07,710 Shadow figures. 67 00:04:08,470 --> 00:04:10,230 I'm being physically attacked. 68 00:04:10,890 --> 00:04:15,310 And I feel it's trying to kill me because of what it does to my voice. 69 00:04:15,650 --> 00:04:19,029 When it happens, you'll hear it, and then it starts to do this. 70 00:04:21,329 --> 00:04:24,350 All right, so what just happened now? You seem like a different person real 71 00:04:24,350 --> 00:04:29,490 quick. It feels like something's got its hands around my throat and it's trying 72 00:04:29,490 --> 00:04:33,830 to prevent me to talk because it doesn't want me talking about it. 73 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:36,790 So do you feel something's trying to take control of you? 74 00:04:37,230 --> 00:04:41,220 Well, it's already happened today that I've been... getting physically attacked 75 00:04:41,220 --> 00:04:48,100 or feeling like something is trying to jump 76 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:53,820 on me or try to... It'll make my heart start racing and 77 00:04:53,820 --> 00:04:57,320 feel like I'm getting pressure. 78 00:04:58,260 --> 00:05:00,340 Okay. Sometimes it'll make me sick. 79 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,980 It may come down to Amy telling you, this is too dangerous for you to stay. 80 00:05:04,980 --> 00:05:05,819 need to leave. 81 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:07,520 My only fear is... 82 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:12,460 More than likely a family would move into this house and I can't feel okay 83 00:05:12,460 --> 00:05:15,020 somebody coming in and getting hurt like I've been hurt. 84 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,800 So I'm seeing an elderly woman dying in a bed here. 85 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:30,960 The problem is here with her being in the house is that the living are 86 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,380 very susceptible to taking on her illness. 87 00:05:36,330 --> 00:05:40,890 I feel like there's a female, I believe, that's being really influenced by this 88 00:05:40,890 --> 00:05:47,730 dead woman. She's stumbling around because she's out of it. She gets 89 00:05:47,730 --> 00:05:53,890 easily, walking into things. When she's kind of in these drugged up states, that 90 00:05:53,890 --> 00:06:00,410 can cause a lot of issues for the living as far as being able to 91 00:06:00,410 --> 00:06:01,810 think straight. 92 00:06:07,140 --> 00:06:08,840 So what's going on in this part of the house? 93 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,700 It feels like I'm being watched and it doesn't matter basically where I'm at. 94 00:06:14,180 --> 00:06:15,640 It's worse than the hallway, though. 95 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:18,660 So are you feeling that presence like right now? 96 00:06:18,940 --> 00:06:21,080 I'm feeling an uneasy feeling right now. 97 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,820 Anytime I'm going to talk about it, it's going to start doing. 98 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:29,100 To me, it sounds like you're having maybe some kind of throat issue where 99 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:33,260 voice is changing from talking too much. So I don't know if it's paranormal or 100 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:37,520 not. The doctors checked out my throat, and it's weird. I can sit here and talk 101 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,600 about anything, but if I start talking about it, it starts doing this. 102 00:06:42,180 --> 00:06:43,340 Okay. That's strange. 103 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:45,960 What else you got going on? Mid -sweep. 104 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:49,260 What are we talking about? Like you're angry, you're depressed? What is it? 105 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:53,700 It's like it wants to get me sad. It wants to get me mad. 106 00:06:53,940 --> 00:06:56,900 Like it's trying to section me off from everybody. 107 00:06:58,220 --> 00:07:01,920 I'm normally pretty happy -go -lucky, and when I'm here, 108 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,300 Just sad. I'll sit there and not talk. 109 00:07:06,580 --> 00:07:09,880 I've seen your personality kind of change right in front of me. Your voice 110 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,880 change. 111 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:15,420 You're having these mood swings. Are you leaning towards that you're getting 112 00:07:15,420 --> 00:07:19,480 possessed? I think that it's jumping me. I don't think it's quite gotten to the 113 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,600 point of going full -blown. All right. 114 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,940 I wanted to focus on this living female. 115 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:37,600 Because it almost, at this point, seems like they're merging. 116 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:47,140 But I don't feel like this elderly woman is doing this on purpose. 117 00:07:47,740 --> 00:07:54,740 It almost feels like this living woman is, like, kind of okay 118 00:07:54,740 --> 00:07:55,740 with it. 119 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,980 Unfortunately, they're kind of blending now. 120 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:07,480 So this living woman is really taking on a lot of this dead woman 121 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:13,240 as far as her illness, possibly even a change of some of her characteristics. 122 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:19,060 So maybe this living woman is a physical medium and does not know it because it 123 00:08:19,060 --> 00:08:24,900 seems like she's turning into this older dead woman. 124 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,260 Is it dangerous for her? 125 00:08:29,740 --> 00:08:36,520 Yeah, this is very dangerous for her because she's basically taking in 126 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:42,220 dead energy, and it's dead energy that is stuck in 127 00:08:42,220 --> 00:08:44,320 this illness. 128 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,880 If I had to guess, I'd say probably something like cancer. 129 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:55,180 What's with the two beds? 130 00:08:56,220 --> 00:09:00,480 These days, I only sleep in the other room because of the paranormal activity. 131 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Is it making things better? 132 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,600 No, it's not. 133 00:09:03,620 --> 00:09:06,260 Are you even getting any sleep in this house with all the crap that's going on? 134 00:09:06,460 --> 00:09:09,460 No, I barely get any sleep because I keep having a lot of nightmares. 135 00:09:09,860 --> 00:09:12,400 Is it anything specific or is it just random? 136 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:17,420 It's being chased, being hunted, or somebody choking me. 137 00:09:17,660 --> 00:09:19,300 Do you think this is what's trying to kill you? 138 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,600 That is what I think is trying to kill me. 139 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,480 All right, what else? 140 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,080 Bruises and scratches. 141 00:09:25,580 --> 00:09:26,580 Where on the body? 142 00:09:27,060 --> 00:09:28,860 I actually have pictures if you'd like to see. Yeah. 143 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:32,500 Arms, legs. 144 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Did you feel this when it was happening? Yeah, it burned really bad. 145 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:40,820 So this third one looks like... It was a choke mark. 146 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,080 I woke up. 147 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:49,080 It felt like it was on top of me trying to choke out the air. 148 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,240 And I probably went through it for about 30 seconds or something. 149 00:09:53,050 --> 00:09:55,550 Felt like something was pushing itself on top of me. 150 00:09:56,310 --> 00:10:01,670 I'm scared to sleep. I don't want, I definitely don't want to dream because 151 00:10:01,670 --> 00:10:06,010 overwhelming feeling of anxiety and panic. 152 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:12,590 I'm seeing an older male. 153 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:17,610 The first thing, he's always looking in windows. 154 00:10:19,690 --> 00:10:25,630 Anytime there was a bush or a tree, he was like lurking and always watching. 155 00:10:25,970 --> 00:10:32,870 He was very open that this was a sexual thing for him to kind of stalk people. 156 00:10:33,370 --> 00:10:39,710 So apparently he did this when he was alive, and he's still doing it now. 157 00:10:43,290 --> 00:10:48,550 This man, his energy is all in here. 158 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,920 uh very bad i feel like he might have raped someone and he's laughing 159 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,760 uh yeah that's disgusting 160 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:24,320 So, Stephen, I was talking to your wife earlier. 161 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:25,700 Her voice changed. 162 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:28,100 You know, her attitude changed. 163 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,920 I saw it happen in front of me. 164 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:33,780 I know you've seen this. Oh, hundreds and hundreds of times. 165 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,100 Did it freak you out? The first time, yes. I ran up to her, grabbed her, shook 166 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:39,400 her. Who are you? Why are you here? And get the hell out of my wife. 167 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:42,400 So, for lack of a better word, I hate using it, but do you think this is some 168 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,400 kind of a possession? 169 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,840 I have to say no, because my wife is still my wife. 170 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,000 All right. Now, Amy says possessions are very rare, extremely rare, but people 171 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,920 do get jumped, which is another thing. 172 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:55,760 So you think that could be happening? 173 00:11:56,060 --> 00:11:59,380 I don't doubt it if we both get jumped. You as well? Oh, yes, sir. 174 00:11:59,660 --> 00:12:01,440 So what experiences have you had? 175 00:12:01,860 --> 00:12:05,240 On two separate occasions, there has been something that has gotten into bed 176 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,839 with me. 177 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Okay, so do me a favor. Describe the first one for me. Something sat down by 178 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,140 leg of the bed, and I could feel the blankets tighten up as if something was 179 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:16,680 there. Said a prayer in my head. It didn't go anywhere. Thrust my foot in 180 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:19,650 direction. Got nothing but air, but it didn't return. 181 00:12:20,090 --> 00:12:23,210 Okay, now you said there was two occasions. Oh, yes. The second one was 182 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:27,510 worse. Something sat behind me, leaning over in me, almost like something was 183 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:31,150 going to whisper in my ear or kiss me on the cheek. I came back with a back 184 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:33,830 fist. Again, nothing but air, but it didn't come back. 185 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:36,310 All right, so you're feeling this presence, obviously. What else? 186 00:12:36,670 --> 00:12:40,430 When I'm sitting in this room, I will see shadow figures walk past the 187 00:12:40,670 --> 00:12:42,430 Is it something you can see through, or is it pretty dark? 188 00:12:42,690 --> 00:12:43,690 It's pretty dark. 189 00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:47,170 Is it possible from the light outside and somebody walking past the house that 190 00:12:47,170 --> 00:12:49,950 you might see a shadow in here? We do have cameras on the front of our house, 191 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:52,010 and we've never caught anybody walking. 192 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:55,550 So have you seen any shadow figures that you see through the doorway anyplace 193 00:12:55,550 --> 00:12:59,850 else? Outside, peering through windows, but always in my peripheral vision. 194 00:13:02,330 --> 00:13:05,350 This older dead man, he's a real creeper. 195 00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:09,830 If there's somebody sleeping, he's right there. 196 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,580 He comes in only when the people are asleep and then he is able to be up 197 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:17,300 and he's doing his thing. 198 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,700 You know what I'm saying? 199 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,400 You know, I want to say there's been one or two times where he's kind of been 200 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:36,320 busted watching somebody inside at night, how they're perceiving him. 201 00:13:37,180 --> 00:13:39,620 More probably like a dark shadowy figure. 202 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:42,900 Very bad. 203 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:48,560 Okay, so you got a present scene, shadow figures, what else? 204 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:55,420 Every morning I would see a young lady in an older style dress, stockings, 205 00:13:55,420 --> 00:14:00,640 sandal -like shoes with a strap over her ankle. As soon as I open up the door 206 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,220 and come around the corner, she's gone. 207 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:05,900 Okay, so when you say a young girl, are we talking? 208 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,360 Nine, ten. 209 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,120 All right, so anything else? 210 00:14:09,460 --> 00:14:13,260 One of the craziest things I have seen is in this room, I will see a black mass 211 00:14:13,260 --> 00:14:16,940 that looks like it's moving, like a spider walks across the ceiling. 212 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:20,220 So how big is the mass, I mean? 213 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,140 About twice the size of a softball. 214 00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:25,920 Oh, okay, so pretty big. Yes. And how often have you seen this? I've seen it 215 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,880 once going across the ceiling and another time across the floor. 216 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:32,480 Did it have that same can't -see -through mass like those shadow planes? 217 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,460 correct. So do you think it could be the same thing, only in a different form? 218 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Anything's possible. 219 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Nothing that happens to us in the house surprises me anymore. 220 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,460 Your wife said to me she thinks that whatever's here wants to kill her. I 221 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:45,680 she really believes that. 222 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:46,900 What's your thoughts? 223 00:14:46,940 --> 00:14:49,080 I believe so, too. I believe he's trying to kill us both. 224 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Okay. 225 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:58,460 There's a younger dead man here, and he is literally changing forms, like, every 226 00:14:58,460 --> 00:15:01,360 five seconds into different things. 227 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:08,620 The younger guy is like, if the ceiling was invisible, is like 228 00:15:08,620 --> 00:15:13,920 warming, like going in and out and in and out and in and out and in and out. 229 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:22,000 And he's like laughing, like laughing like this. 230 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:30,140 Oh, he's so creepy. Seeing him interacting with a small female child 231 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,400 messing with her horribly. 232 00:15:34,140 --> 00:15:37,300 And he is torturing this child. 233 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:55,820 Amy and I were in Fresno years ago, but I still have some contacts from that 234 00:15:55,820 --> 00:15:56,820 case. 235 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,860 One of them, a local historian, reached out and said the original owner of Cindy 236 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:04,460 and Stephen's property has a hell of a story I'm going to want to know about. 237 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,140 So, Mike, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 238 00:16:12,380 --> 00:16:15,580 The original owner, what can you tell me about this guy? Well, his name was 239 00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:17,420 Francis Bullard, but he was better known as Frank. 240 00:16:18,220 --> 00:16:22,520 Originally, he was from Massachusetts, but he moved out west to California 241 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,680 during the gold rush. He was hoping to make his fortune. 242 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,160 So that's about 1850? 243 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,400 About 1850, yeah. 244 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,080 That's him. 245 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:34,360 After several years of grueling mining, he gave it up. He started a farm, 246 00:16:34,420 --> 00:16:36,840 specifically raising and breeding high -end sheep. 247 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,740 It was at this time he met his wife, Mary Adness. 248 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Does he wind up having any kids? 249 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Yep. Actually, he has five, including twin boys, Edwin and Edgar. 250 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,020 And in 1888, that's when he buys your client's property. 251 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,820 So, Mike, I assume you didn't call me here because his life was rosy. 252 00:16:51,820 --> 00:16:52,820 went wrong, right? 253 00:16:52,940 --> 00:16:54,540 Six years later, in 1894. 254 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,460 Frank catches pneumonia and dies. 255 00:16:56,940 --> 00:16:59,920 He was at the age of 72 at the time. There's his death record. 256 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,680 All right, so now he's dead. Who gets the property? 257 00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:07,000 Well, the five kids inherit the property and the business, and that's when 258 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 things start to go bad. 259 00:17:08,099 --> 00:17:09,099 Okay, like what? 260 00:17:09,339 --> 00:17:12,960 Edgar and his brother, Frank Jr., both suffer the losses of their infant son. 261 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:14,980 Anything else? 262 00:17:15,460 --> 00:17:18,780 Unfortunately, yes. As the eldest son, Edgar was in charge of the family 263 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:19,780 business, the Buller Company. 264 00:17:20,650 --> 00:17:23,050 He didn't see much potential in the land that he owned, and he started to sell 265 00:17:23,050 --> 00:17:27,609 it off piece by piece to this guy named J .C. Fortner. Around 1922, Fortner 266 00:17:27,609 --> 00:17:30,330 starts to make millions off that same land that he bought from Edgar. 267 00:17:30,670 --> 00:17:34,570 So that had nudged him a little bit, right? Yeah. According to family 268 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:39,050 he started to suffer from depression from that. In March of 1923, he took a 269 00:17:39,050 --> 00:17:40,490 to his chest and killed himself. 270 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:43,490 Okay, so this guy offs himself. 271 00:17:44,090 --> 00:17:45,090 Who does he leave behind? 272 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:48,730 He left behind his wife of 25 years Florence and their five kids. 273 00:17:49,290 --> 00:17:50,830 So what wound up happening with Florence? 274 00:17:51,050 --> 00:17:55,430 Well, Florence lived for another 15 years and died in 1940 at the age of 67. 275 00:17:57,030 --> 00:17:59,590 With all that pressure on her, no wonder she died of a heart attack. 276 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:05,510 I'm feeling a lot of depression, like a loss. 277 00:18:07,910 --> 00:18:09,950 That kind of a heavy sadness. 278 00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:14,190 This is all tied to a dead female. 279 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:17,230 So literally imagine, like, a wall. 280 00:18:18,060 --> 00:18:23,440 of energy is just going back and forth and back and forth. 281 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:27,980 How dense it is, that's causing the headaches and the ear problems. 282 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:33,240 It's weird because it looks like a wall of energy, but it's actually a dead 283 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,240 female. 284 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,060 Oh, I'm still feeling it. 285 00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:44,800 My last meeting got me wondering about this J .C. Faulkner guy. 286 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:47,910 the one who made all that money buying Cindy and Stephen's land. 287 00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:52,670 So I reached out to a local professor who says Faulkner may have made some 288 00:18:52,670 --> 00:18:57,250 cash, but his life also went to hell the second he set foot on the property. 289 00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:06,210 This guy, J .C. Faulkner, what are you talking about? 290 00:19:06,410 --> 00:19:08,270 Well, he was born in Kansas. 291 00:19:08,650 --> 00:19:13,070 He came out to Fresno and became a really prominent businessman. 292 00:19:13,410 --> 00:19:14,410 Here he is. 293 00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:17,190 So he's the guy in the lightest suit. Yeah. 294 00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:21,690 So I know he made a lot of money buying my client's property. What can you tell 295 00:19:21,690 --> 00:19:22,449 me about that? 296 00:19:22,450 --> 00:19:25,050 6 ,000 acres he bought in 1910. 297 00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:32,250 Okay. And began to develop it into this vast fig orchard. It was considered 298 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,970 pretty much barren land. They called it outlaw land. 299 00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:37,330 But he kind of had a vision. 300 00:19:38,330 --> 00:19:41,110 So, Professor, on the phone you mentioned that his life turned to hell 301 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:42,110 got the land. What happened? 302 00:19:42,590 --> 00:19:43,970 January of 1910. 303 00:19:44,770 --> 00:19:49,530 His wife, Grace, was in labor with his first child. 304 00:19:49,770 --> 00:19:55,350 Okay. She delivered a healthy baby boy, but she died in labor. And here's the 305 00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:56,350 old bit. 306 00:19:57,330 --> 00:20:02,650 And she was pretty young, 34, and he was left pretty much alone to care for the 307 00:20:02,650 --> 00:20:03,529 kid. 308 00:20:03,530 --> 00:20:07,390 All right, so this is pretty tragic. Anything else happen? Well, a couple of 309 00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:12,970 years later, his mother, Maddie, came out here from Kansas. She had chronic 310 00:20:12,970 --> 00:20:17,580 asthma. Oh. And she came out here to recuperate, to take in the air. 311 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,020 But by 1913, things took a turn for the worse. 312 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:29,160 She got really sick and passed away. She was 65 years old. 313 00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:31,520 Okay, so only a couple of years after his wife dies. 314 00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:34,720 All right, so this is pretty tragic. 315 00:20:39,340 --> 00:20:41,040 I'm seeing the dead lady again. 316 00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:47,110 She's meshing this dead energy into this living person. 317 00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:48,730 She's very thin. 318 00:20:49,230 --> 00:20:53,230 I mean, I put her, like, probably in her 60s. 319 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:56,990 She was in a lot of pain, it seems like. 320 00:20:57,870 --> 00:21:00,970 And she's dying in a bed here. 321 00:21:04,410 --> 00:21:09,730 I don't know if she actually literally died here, but she didn't leave here. 322 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:16,460 So he loses his wife in childbirth in 1910. His mother comes out to get 323 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,300 She doesn't. She winds up dropping dead. That's enough for anybody. 324 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:23,340 Anything else happen with this guy? Well, the very next year, he got into a 325 00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:24,460 fatal car accident. 326 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,680 He hit a motorcyclist. The motorcyclist died. 327 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,560 This guy can't catch a break. Well, some good things happened. 328 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,280 He got remarried. He had four kids. 329 00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:42,860 Over the next several years, his agricultural empire flourished. Okay. 330 00:21:42,860 --> 00:21:49,740 1930, tragedy struck again. His youngest child, William, eight years 331 00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:52,260 old, was climbing in a tree and fell. 332 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,600 They gave him a transfusion, but he died. 333 00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:59,400 So his kid's eight years old, he's dead. Anything else happen with this guy that 334 00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,999 was tragic? 335 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,260 He stayed on the land until he sold out in 1956, made a fortune. 336 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Okay. Lived for another 13 years. He died in 1969 at the age of 96. 337 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,080 This is the death certificate. 338 00:22:14,740 --> 00:22:16,780 So he lived a long life. Yeah. 339 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:21,860 So with all the money this guy made, it couldn't buy him happiness or the health 340 00:22:21,860 --> 00:22:22,860 of his family, no? 341 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,560 I'm seeing the old creeper guy again. 342 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:34,760 He possibly was an owner of this. 343 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:41,360 location at some point i see him in a car accident he 344 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:48,240 was a businessman he was wealthy and he loves looking in windows 345 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:54,360 that's like a big thing he was like lurking 346 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,960 he's so creepy 347 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:08,530 For more information about the show, and if you need us to investigate 348 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:13,070 unexplained activity in your home, please visit TravelChannel .com slash 349 00:23:13,070 --> 00:23:13,889 Dead Files. 350 00:23:13,890 --> 00:23:17,290 Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 351 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:30,210 So far, I've got a couple being terrorized by some really bizarre 352 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:32,850 a property that has seen more than a spare share of death. 353 00:23:33,290 --> 00:23:34,850 But I want to see if there's anything else. 354 00:23:36,010 --> 00:23:40,370 Searching through old records, I find Marcus West, Fresno's most notorious 355 00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:44,230 murderer. Turns out he lived just a few miles away from Cindy and Stephen's 356 00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:45,209 house. 357 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:48,570 So I'm heading over to meet a woman who wrote a book about this mass murderer. 358 00:23:48,730 --> 00:23:52,450 She prepared me. She said I'm going to be really pissed when I hear about what 359 00:23:52,450 --> 00:23:53,450 this guy did. 360 00:23:58,510 --> 00:24:01,010 Well, Julia, thanks for meeting with me. I got your book here. 361 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,260 And instead of reading it, I figured I'd reach out to you. 362 00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:06,520 So what can you tell me about this guy, Marcus Wesson? 363 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:11,920 He was born in Kansas in 1946, and his father was an abusive alcoholic. 364 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,560 So, Julie, how did they wind up in California? 365 00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:20,360 My father left out of the picture, 1960s. The mom takes Marcus Wesson, her 366 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,800 sister, and all the family, and they bring him out to California. 367 00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:25,040 So Marcus grows up. Does he get a job? 368 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,500 Kind of like a freeloader. He doesn't really keep a job. Okay. So he meets 369 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:30,500 lady. 370 00:24:31,050 --> 00:24:33,970 Rosemary, and she has her own kids, like eight kids. 371 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:38,610 All right, so I know things turned off with this guy. What happens? Well, he 372 00:24:38,610 --> 00:24:42,550 starts grooming one of Rosemary's younger daughters, who's only eight 373 00:24:42,730 --> 00:24:44,010 to become his wife. 374 00:24:44,290 --> 00:24:45,630 An eight -year -old? Eight -year -old. 375 00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:51,310 He gets permission from her mother to marry her because he let her know that 376 00:24:51,310 --> 00:24:56,130 spoke to him, and God has chosen him to be the Lord and Master. 377 00:24:56,910 --> 00:24:58,810 By 15, she was already pregnant. 378 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,220 They had a number of kids, so they had nine kids altogether. 379 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,340 All right, so this guy is basically a cult leader. 380 00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:05,700 Yes. Okay. 381 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,100 They followed David Koresh, and that was his idol. 382 00:25:08,380 --> 00:25:09,380 Okay. 383 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:16,140 The younger pervert guy, seeing him interacting with a small female child, 384 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:23,240 messing with her horribly, she was 385 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,480 very sick mentally, and now even more so. 386 00:25:28,330 --> 00:25:31,490 I think they would have a lot of experiences with the kid out here. 387 00:25:32,270 --> 00:25:38,390 I don't know if they've seen her out here, but it's a possibility, which 388 00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:40,810 obviously would probably freak them out a lot. 389 00:25:44,430 --> 00:25:47,670 All right, so I know he gets arrested for a whole bunch of murders. So what 390 00:25:47,670 --> 00:25:49,090 happened? March 2004. 391 00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:52,390 So by this time, he's married to, like, six different women. 392 00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:56,990 They have over a dozen kids, and there's this custody dispute that happens at 393 00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:57,599 the house. 394 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,240 All right, so did the cops get called to the house? 395 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,180 Yes. When the cops are telling him, come outside, come outside, he comes out 396 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:04,340 soiled and bloodied. 397 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:06,080 Cops go inside the house. What do they find? 398 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,279 Horrific scene. 399 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,980 All the bodies were intertwined, one on top of the other. The infant was at the 400 00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:14,700 bottom. Okay. And at the top was the oldest daughter. 401 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,440 Okay, so how many bodies are we talking? 402 00:26:16,660 --> 00:26:17,659 Talking nine. 403 00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:20,700 This is a sick... I mean... There he is. This is him? 404 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:21,900 That's him. 405 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,640 And he's doing time still? 406 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,280 Yeah, he's in San Quentin right now. He's 73 years old. 407 00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:28,070 He's standing on death row as we speak. 408 00:26:28,330 --> 00:26:31,370 I mean, this is a sick, for lack of a better word. 409 00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:43,330 This younger male who shifts all the time, he is torturing this child. 410 00:26:45,290 --> 00:26:46,830 What experience is she having? 411 00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:52,150 She sees a really old, really old, creepy, bad, bad man. 412 00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:58,980 And he's saying how this thing, which is really him, is going to come at night 413 00:26:58,980 --> 00:26:59,980 and eat her. 414 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,320 That's bad. That scares her. And she's crying, and it's not good. 415 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:13,820 The living are encountering a dead child, running around, acting out. 416 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:22,320 She has suffered enough trauma that part of her is here, will always be here. 417 00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:33,630 I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, but two dead people have me very 418 00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:34,630 concerned. 419 00:27:35,150 --> 00:27:38,130 First, the old lady who is melding with a living woman. 420 00:27:38,410 --> 00:27:41,750 She was very thin, pale. 421 00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:45,910 She had dark circles around her eyes. 422 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:51,530 Next, I described the creeper guy hanging out in the main bedroom. 423 00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:55,670 His eyes are a little deep. He is... 424 00:27:55,930 --> 00:28:02,470 leering in a perverted way, and he's watching them. 425 00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:10,510 Amy, is that what you saw? 426 00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:12,810 Yeah, that's what I saw. 427 00:28:32,969 --> 00:28:37,110 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal 428 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:40,350 findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 429 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:42,550 Well, guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. 430 00:28:44,530 --> 00:28:49,210 She's going to be doing a reveal from one of your bedrooms so that she has the 431 00:28:49,210 --> 00:28:51,230 quiet she wants to talk to you and the dead. 432 00:28:52,110 --> 00:28:55,330 We'll still be able to see and hear each other with the monitors we have set up. 433 00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:58,010 Amy, this is Steve and Cindy. 434 00:28:58,910 --> 00:29:00,750 Now, you guys bought this place about two years ago. 435 00:29:01,790 --> 00:29:06,070 and it was supposed to be your forever dream home, to say it hasn't worked out 436 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:09,410 would be an understatement. These guys think that whatever's here wants to kill 437 00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:11,390 them, and they're desperate for our help. 438 00:29:12,390 --> 00:29:15,990 So unless Amy's got some questions for you, she'll describe her walk for us. 439 00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:25,490 When I first walked into the house, I encountered an older, deceased female. 440 00:29:25,870 --> 00:29:30,510 What she carries around with her is a lot of nausea and digestive issues. 441 00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:35,350 So I think that the living could have these as well. 442 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:41,850 I did get that there was a living woman in the house who I believe is a physical 443 00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:48,550 medium. And because of having that type of ability, this living woman and this 444 00:29:48,550 --> 00:29:52,930 deceased elderly woman are starting to merge. 445 00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:55,390 And this is a dangerous situation. 446 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:03,040 Over time, my fear is the living woman would begin to manifest 447 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:09,820 the same symptoms as this elderly woman and could even have the 448 00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:12,060 same disease that the woman died from. 449 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:14,720 I would have never thought that medium. 450 00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:18,920 Do you have any idea your wife might be a medium? She basically described her 451 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,920 and how she is. 452 00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:24,990 Your digestive issues, she cannot sit down and eat a bite of food without it 453 00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:25,990 almost coming up. 454 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:30,690 Amy, when I interviewed Cindy, her voice would change like something else. It's 455 00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:31,549 kind of talking. 456 00:30:31,550 --> 00:30:37,750 Well, it was happening every time I talked about what it does, and then it 457 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:38,890 starts doing this to me. 458 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:46,490 It feels like I got this pressure on my chest or on my esophagus, like it's 459 00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:47,490 pressing down on it. 460 00:30:48,010 --> 00:30:51,560 Is it possible that this... DOA is jumping her or is it something 461 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:56,260 Well, it's more than that because she's consistently blending with her. 462 00:30:56,540 --> 00:31:01,800 So imagine a long -term jump. But it's not a possession because she's not doing 463 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,980 this out of, you know, a malicious intent. That explains a lot of things. 464 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:10,900 All right. So any idea who this woman was when she was alive? 465 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:13,180 I put her in her 60s. 466 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,620 The illness. 467 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,000 That she suffered with was very long, and she was in a lot of pain. 468 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,200 If I had to guess, I would have said, you know, that she died from cancer. 469 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:29,600 The weird thing is, is that I was very confused on if she actually lived here. 470 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,160 few times during my walk, I felt like there was some kind of relationship 471 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,820 between her and another deceased person that's here. 472 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800 All right, that's not a lot to go on for me, but... 473 00:31:42,510 --> 00:31:45,830 I want to take a shot in the dark here. Now, one of the first owners of your 474 00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:49,570 land was a businessman named J .C. Faulkner, and he moved here from Kansas. 475 00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:54,030 Now, his mother was a woman named Maddie Faulkner. She suffered from chronic and 476 00:31:54,030 --> 00:31:55,550 painful asthma for years. 477 00:31:56,230 --> 00:32:01,170 So in 1913, she left Kansas and moved out here to Fresno. Now, the hope was 478 00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:04,130 you have this dry air out here that it would help her illness. But 479 00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:08,510 unfortunately, it didn't. Just a few months after getting here, she dropped 480 00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:13,500 dead. She was 65 when she died, and Amy had said she was in her 60s. So I'm 481 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:15,860 curious if you think Maddie Faulkner might have been the woman you saw. 482 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,680 No. 483 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:24,760 She felt like a newer dead person, and I did have a sketch of her dying. 484 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,020 Apparently this is the woman that's causing your voice and your physical 485 00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:47,580 to be disrupted. 486 00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:53,320 It makes me upset because, you know, I'm not doing anything to her. 487 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:59,580 She feels the warmth and the love that you emanate, and you're kind of, 488 00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:06,040 unfortunately, taking on her misery. Some days I get sad for no reason and I 489 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,000 can't explain it and just want to curl up and cry. 490 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:13,320 Okay, Aime, what else? 491 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,820 The next person that I'd like to discuss is very creepy. 492 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,220 He's constantly changing his form. 493 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,540 When I first encountered him, I saw him weaving in and out of the ceiling. 494 00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:34,060 I was sitting here on the couch watching TV, and I noticed it come into the 495 00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:38,340 room. It appeared that it was about this big, and I... 496 00:33:38,810 --> 00:33:42,630 relay it to other people as a legless spider just because of the way it moved 497 00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:49,590 across the ceiling wow his whole thing is that he's a 498 00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:55,610 stalker but he's not really that interested in adults and i actually 499 00:33:55,610 --> 00:34:02,450 briefly saw him with this child that he 500 00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:04,130 was torturing and 501 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,639 She looked to be about five years of age. 502 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,420 I felt like you might see her as well. 503 00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:15,219 Okay. 504 00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:19,960 Why did it hit you so hard, sweetie? 505 00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:25,219 I've had my daughter's babies over here. 506 00:34:27,739 --> 00:34:29,219 You also saw a little girl. 507 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,500 Yes. I'd come down the hall and I'd see a little girl. 508 00:34:33,929 --> 00:34:36,389 Sitting on the end of the table. 509 00:34:36,730 --> 00:34:37,730 Interesting. 510 00:34:39,830 --> 00:34:40,850 Anything else? 511 00:34:41,429 --> 00:34:48,110 The next individual that I encountered was a dead person that I'm worried 512 00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:55,230 And I called him the Creeper. He looked to be in his late 50s, early 60s. I got 513 00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:57,310 that he was an upper middle class businessman. 514 00:34:57,670 --> 00:35:01,050 I think he may have owned this place at one point. 515 00:35:01,630 --> 00:35:07,350 He showed me that he was in some kind of a really bad car accident and felt it 516 00:35:07,350 --> 00:35:08,530 was important that I knew this. 517 00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:13,250 I also felt that he may have raped someone while he was alive. 518 00:35:14,050 --> 00:35:17,050 Okay, the rape thing kind of threw me off a bit. I don't have anything on 519 00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:22,110 But there was a man who owned this property that was a very successful 520 00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:26,090 businessman, and he did get into a deadly car accident. Oh. 521 00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:28,950 Remember I told you about Matty Faulkner who died from asthma? 522 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:33,140 Well, her son, J .C., owned the property, and he was a very, very 523 00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:38,540 guy. In 1910, J .C. bought 6 ,000 acres of land in Fresno, including the 524 00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:40,980 property we're on right now. He got rich off this land. 525 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:42,880 But money didn't bring him happiness. 526 00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:46,560 The year he bought the property, his wife died in childbirth. 527 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:49,220 The next year, he got into a deadly car accident. 528 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,260 Now, J .C. was behind the wheel of the car, but he hit a motorcyclist. He 529 00:35:54,260 --> 00:35:55,740 watched this guy die in front of him. 530 00:35:56,110 --> 00:36:01,030 So now J .C. owned the land until 1956, and he stayed in Fresno another 13 years 531 00:36:01,030 --> 00:36:02,450 before dying in 1969. 532 00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:04,550 Is it possible this could be the creeper guy? 533 00:36:04,890 --> 00:36:09,650 Yes. As far as all the details, they all match. 534 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:16,110 Now, you said he's one of the ones you're the most worried about. Why is 535 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:18,630 He gets off on stalking people. 536 00:36:19,390 --> 00:36:21,530 He's always looking in windows. 537 00:36:23,820 --> 00:36:30,640 He was very open that this was a sexual thing for him to kind of stalk people. 538 00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:39,040 And I felt like he had been busted a few times that you may have seen him as 539 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,280 like a shadowy figure. 540 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,620 Sitting here watching TV, I've seen shadow figures walking past through the 541 00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:46,620 doors. 542 00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:51,220 I can walk in my room, the master bedroom. 543 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,480 I'll feel light. 544 00:36:53,790 --> 00:37:00,650 There's something watching me. I had a sketch done of what I saw this man 545 00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:01,650 doing. 546 00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:12,430 Oh, jeez. 547 00:37:19,410 --> 00:37:21,930 I'm the one that sleeps on that side of the bed. 548 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:23,940 That's even more sick. 549 00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:28,620 He watches adults, male and female. 550 00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:30,720 And this excites him. 551 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,320 So Cindy's going through a lot here. I want to show you some pictures that I 552 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,460 have of her being assaulted by this person. 553 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,040 Her being scratched. 554 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,500 Then you got like a bruise, like you had a hand wrapped around you on her bicep 555 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:49,500 area. 556 00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:51,740 And then this one's the... 557 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,360 choke marks around her neck. 558 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:59,940 I ended up having this person on top of me with their hands around my throat. 559 00:38:00,580 --> 00:38:04,080 I sat there just going, okay, this isn't real, this isn't real, this isn't real. 560 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,080 You've had some other things happen to you that weren't appropriate. 561 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:16,160 Yep. I thought my husband was knocking in bed with me 562 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,800 and started caressing me and touching me. 563 00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:24,470 The next thing I know, I felt something on top of me. 564 00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:28,410 I mean, I opened my eyes and there was nothing there. 565 00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:34,030 I'm just glad that we're here and that we can put a stop to this as soon as 566 00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:36,250 possible. I want to get this to stop. 567 00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:37,890 I want to be able to sleep. 568 00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:58,800 Cindy, Steve, good news is you're not crazy. 569 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,160 Bad news is you're not crazy. 570 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:05,400 There's a lot going on in here. So now Amy's going to let you know if there's 571 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,060 anything you can do to stay here, and if so, what it's going to take. 572 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:17,440 What I would like to do is bring in a team of people. They're an eclectic 573 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:21,580 They'll be bringing with them a druid practitioner. 574 00:39:22,140 --> 00:39:24,120 Amy, what exactly is a druid practitioner? 575 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,860 A druid is an individual who practices magic. 576 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:37,380 He'll be handling the collection and removal of the mentally ill man. 577 00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:44,260 And once he's dealt with that, he will then go on to deal with the creeper. 578 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,340 And we're just going to let him do what he wants to with him. 579 00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:53,840 You got a couple of tough characters to get rid of, so you need... Somebody 580 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,060 tough to get him out of here. Yeah. 581 00:39:55,380 --> 00:40:02,080 While he's doing that, the team will be first helping the dead 582 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:08,060 elderly woman. What they'll be doing is calling in her deceased friend to help 583 00:40:08,060 --> 00:40:14,360 move her on. And then they'll also retrieve this child. 584 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:21,040 Then they will go over with you, Cindy, specifically a type of meditation. 585 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,180 that you will need to do to shut down. 586 00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:29,980 This will help as far as any random dead people. 587 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:31,840 How do you feel about that? 588 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:36,300 I would love to be able to help people, but, I mean, I know right now I need to 589 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:37,300 take care of myself. 590 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,340 So once everything happens, she'll start feeling better, I assume, after a 591 00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:42,038 while, right? 592 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,640 Oh, yeah, like night and day. 593 00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:48,160 I thought it was going to be way worse than that. That's good. 594 00:40:48,730 --> 00:40:52,170 Now, Cindy was worried about bringing the grandkids here, so I guess after 595 00:40:52,170 --> 00:40:55,610 everything is nice and quiet for a while, they can start bringing the 596 00:40:55,610 --> 00:40:56,468 back in. 597 00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:58,530 I am tickled pink. 598 00:40:59,050 --> 00:41:03,510 This is wonderful. Thank you so very much, all of you. Thank you. This is a 599 00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:07,370 blessing. You guys will get to sleep in the same room again? 600 00:41:07,630 --> 00:41:08,890 Yeah. No, that would be nice. 601 00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:11,670 We appreciate you coming and helping us out. 602 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:16,470 Cindy and Stephen have a long road ahead of them. 603 00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:21,730 But I'm confident if they bring in a druid practitioner and a group of 604 00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:25,870 to remove the dead, Cindy will have the space she needs to shut down her 605 00:41:25,870 --> 00:41:29,210 abilities, and they'll be able to live in their house in peace. 606 00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:36,330 Good evening, dead files. This is Steve and Cindy. 607 00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:42,530 Wow, it no longer feels like I'm waiting for something to happen. It's 608 00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:45,810 comfortable. I'm no longer getting tortured throughout the day. 609 00:41:46,810 --> 00:41:49,990 I feel like I can't breathe because something's trying to choke me. Yeah, 610 00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:54,830 are so blessed and grateful that Steve and Amy came out and did what it is that 611 00:41:54,830 --> 00:41:59,830 they do to get us into the position that we are now currently in. Thank you so 612 00:41:59,830 --> 00:42:00,830 much. 55644

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