All language subtitles for biography_wwe_legends_s03e09_the_iron_sheik

af Afrikaans
ak Akan
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bem Bemba
bn Bengali
bh Bihari
bs Bosnian
br Breton
bg Bulgarian
km Cambodian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
chr Cherokee
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
ee Ewe
fo Faroese
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gaa Ga
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gn Guarani
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ia Interlingua
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
rw Kinyarwanda
rn Kirundi
kg Kongo
ko Korean
kri Krio (Sierra Leone)
ku Kurdish
ckb Kurdish (Soranî)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Laothian
la Latin
lv Latvian
ln Lingala
lt Lithuanian
loz Lozi
lg Luganda
ach Luo
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mfe Mauritian Creole
mo Moldavian
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
sr-ME Montenegrin
ne Nepali
pcm Nigerian Pidgin
nso Northern Sotho
no Norwegian
nn Norwegian (Nynorsk)
oc Occitan
or Oriya
om Oromo
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt-BR Portuguese (Brazil)
pt Portuguese (Portugal)
pa Punjabi
qu Quechua
ro Romanian
rm Romansh
nyn Runyakitara
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
sh Serbo-Croatian
st Sesotho
tn Setswana
crs Seychellois Creole
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhalese
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
es-419 Spanish (Latin American)
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
tt Tatar
te Telugu
th Thai
ti Tigrinya
to Tonga
lua Tshiluba
tum Tumbuka
tr Turkish
tk Turkmen
tw Twi
ug Uighur
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
wo Wolof
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,060 --> 00:00:06,300 We are here in Dallas, Texas, of course, for WrestleMania weekend. 2 00:00:06,660 --> 00:00:12,000 And some breaking news while we're here. Seth Rollins facing a mystery opponent 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,460 of Mr. McMahon. His opponent is going to be picked by Vince McMahon. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Better be somebody good. 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,820 Look at Cody Rhodes right here. Anything can happen, but who knows? He may show 6 00:00:24,820 --> 00:00:28,100 up tonight. We have no idea. I think this place would pop its ass off if he 7 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:28,659 out tonight. 8 00:00:28,660 --> 00:00:30,640 We can only hope, man. We can only hope. We can't get something that good at 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,780 WrestleMania. To see him come back home would be a whole other thing, man. I got 10 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:38,580 to see the statue for his father last night at the Superstore. It was 11 00:00:39,220 --> 00:00:43,080 I've always loved Dusty Rhodes, man, so hopefully we see his son here tonight. 12 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:49,620 Uh -oh. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Big Mama. 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,460 Hey. Up close and personal. Where are you at? 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,380 I'm sitting outside where the rehearsal dinner is. 16 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:00,980 Where are y 'all staying at? 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,060 Right now we're staying on the bus. I'm going to stay here until they drag me 18 00:01:05,060 --> 00:01:09,700 out of it because I have been sequestered as a surprise for tomorrow. 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,300 I know you're going to do great, Cody. I know you're going to do great. 20 00:01:13,580 --> 00:01:18,100 I'm so proud of you, and I know Daddy would have been so proud of you. 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,220 And I know... 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,360 watching you i just go away thanks mama love you tell everyone i said hey all 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,920 right bye i 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:35,180 do 25 00:01:35,180 --> 00:01:41,280 get asked about dusty and everything that i do and i have uh avoided the 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,420 of dusty roads when he was living and since he passed um because it's so big 27 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,920 How could I ever do anything like he did? 28 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:58,240 But fate has it that I get this opportunity to make the walk at 29 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,500 front of Sports Entertainment's biggest crowd. 30 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,220 My dad would have loved that. 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,100 And the winner of the crowd now is for the American Dream. It is for Mr. Dusty 32 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:12,100 Rose. 33 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,940 Dusty could make people feel. 34 00:02:15,780 --> 00:02:16,960 He showed that. 35 00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:20,050 The average son of a plumber could rise up. 36 00:02:20,350 --> 00:02:23,910 He could be your next -door neighbor. He could be the guy you work in a factory 37 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:26,350 with. But he could go out there and kick ass. 38 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:33,130 I came from nowhere, and it would take a hell of a man to knock me off. He was a 39 00:02:33,130 --> 00:02:39,790 dreamer of epic proportion and the architect of what we now see as a 40 00:02:39,790 --> 00:02:40,790 global empire. 41 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:44,650 God, he was entertaining. 42 00:02:47,340 --> 00:02:50,320 Dusty looked at pro wrestling just like a movie. 43 00:02:50,580 --> 00:02:52,980 You don't know what hard times are, Denny. 44 00:02:53,860 --> 00:02:58,980 I've been hooked forever on Dusty Rosen because what you got was real for me. 45 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,240 To get to the top, you have to sacrifice. 46 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,260 In every aspect you can imagine. 47 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Definitely became hard times. 48 00:03:08,340 --> 00:03:09,480 Dev was a mentor. 49 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:10,760 He was a hero. 50 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:13,420 And the best downfall on the planet. 51 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,360 That's funky. 52 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:35,000 His real name was Virgil Riley Runnels Jr. 53 00:03:35,540 --> 00:03:40,140 Never, ever heard anybody call him Virgil. Not even my mom or pop. 54 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,600 He got nicknamed Dusty because of the street that he lived on. 55 00:03:45,820 --> 00:03:46,940 It was in... 56 00:03:47,230 --> 00:03:49,390 Dirt Road, Dusty Road. 57 00:03:50,270 --> 00:03:56,830 Dusty Roads is born into an America that is coming out of the Great Depression, 58 00:03:57,090 --> 00:03:58,510 is coming out of World War II. 59 00:03:59,750 --> 00:04:01,450 A kid from Austin, Texas. 60 00:04:02,130 --> 00:04:06,790 Eastside. Black community, you know, Mexican -American community. 61 00:04:08,210 --> 00:04:10,930 Lucky to be part of that community. 62 00:04:11,710 --> 00:04:14,990 I was running around just thinking I was no different than anybody else. 63 00:04:16,110 --> 00:04:21,829 My dad was a hard -working plumber, disciplinarian, and not a lot of 64 00:04:22,089 --> 00:04:23,090 just a hard -working guy. 65 00:04:23,910 --> 00:04:28,210 We were very poor financially, but I was not aware of the financial problem. 66 00:04:29,470 --> 00:04:32,710 It was just life for us. It was the way things were. 67 00:04:33,090 --> 00:04:38,810 We never really felt sorry for ourselves or felt like we'd gotten a bad shake in 68 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:40,170 life, a bad deal in life. 69 00:04:40,910 --> 00:04:45,450 Growing up in East Austin, coming from nothing, my dad created things out of 70 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:50,530 nothing. I've heard things about him being teased as a child because he was 71 00:04:50,530 --> 00:04:56,330 bigger, but the adversity part of it was just him overcoming obstacles in his 72 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:58,990 life to get him to where he wanted to be. 73 00:04:59,810 --> 00:05:03,290 My mom was the driving force behind the American dream. 74 00:05:05,030 --> 00:05:09,490 Pursuing and reaching and trying to obtain whatever you could. It was such a 75 00:05:09,490 --> 00:05:10,490 deal with her. 76 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,160 My dad more or less was that if you're going to do it, do it right. 77 00:05:15,380 --> 00:05:18,420 If you're going to reach for it, then be the best at it. 78 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:22,680 Friday night, my dad would catch a check, we'd go to the restaurant. 79 00:05:23,380 --> 00:05:25,020 He would yell and scream and go crazy. 80 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:27,540 I grew up really loving this industry. 81 00:05:27,780 --> 00:05:30,200 What an opportunity if you could make a living with this. 82 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,500 We'd come home and we'd wrestle. We made fake masks. 83 00:05:34,980 --> 00:05:37,020 We could just get as rough as we wanted. 84 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,900 With Dusty, one thing I would say about him, you could not make things tough 85 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:43,900 enough for him. 86 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,500 My dad would tell you how great he was at baseball, at football, and he truly 87 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:50,740 was a multi -sport athlete. 88 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:54,980 The New York Mets at that time had scouted me. I played first base, and I 89 00:05:54,980 --> 00:05:55,699 a little bit. 90 00:05:55,700 --> 00:06:00,760 He also played for a semi -professional football team in Connecticut called the 91 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,080 Charter Oak Buffaloes. 92 00:06:02,340 --> 00:06:06,740 There's the athlete side of Dusty, and then there's the thespian. 93 00:06:07,290 --> 00:06:11,790 side of Dusty, something else was calling him. 94 00:06:12,750 --> 00:06:18,390 One of his greatest characteristics was his ability to have a vision and know 95 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:20,870 exactly what he wanted to do in his life. 96 00:06:21,170 --> 00:06:22,710 He was always charismatic. 97 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:27,150 Even when he was young, he had a stage presence. He loved acting. He would tell 98 00:06:27,150 --> 00:06:30,630 me, I love it. And I'd say, no, man, you're an athlete, not an actor. 99 00:06:31,230 --> 00:06:34,410 You know what I'm saying? And luckily he found a profession where he could 100 00:06:34,410 --> 00:06:36,010 combine both of those passions. 101 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:37,290 He wanted to pro -wrestle. 102 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:39,170 He wanted pro -wrestling. 103 00:06:40,570 --> 00:06:42,690 I remember him coming into Dallas. 104 00:06:43,050 --> 00:06:47,590 He didn't have a place to stay. And he wrestled Fritz von Erich that night. 105 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:50,270 Fritz just had his way with him. 106 00:06:51,090 --> 00:06:55,030 I remember him kicking him right in the teeth once. Looked like he actually had 107 00:06:55,030 --> 00:06:56,030 lost some teeth. 108 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:58,190 And ended up putting a claw on him. 109 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:02,460 But I remember him telling me, I love this business. 110 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,500 Someday I'm going to be the heavyweight champion of the world. 111 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:11,160 I think he saw something in wrestling. 112 00:07:11,540 --> 00:07:16,040 And there was a freedom in wrestling that didn't exist in other spaces. 113 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,720 You know, Muhammad Ali, if you'd asked him who his hero was as an 18 -year 114 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,680 he would have said Gorgeous George Wagner. And what he loved about Gorgeous 115 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,650 George. was that Gorgeous George brought the showmanship of professional 116 00:07:29,650 --> 00:07:31,330 wrestling to a whole other level. 117 00:07:31,690 --> 00:07:37,010 I have to think that for Dusty Rhodes, it was a very attractive thought for him 118 00:07:37,010 --> 00:07:40,610 to be able to be a character and develop stories. 119 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:48,030 When my mom and my dad met, they hit it off. They had a great time. 120 00:07:49,450 --> 00:07:50,930 Sandy was gorgeous. 121 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:52,370 He loved her. 122 00:07:53,710 --> 00:07:59,610 The war in Vietnam had began, and they had a rule that they were not taking any 123 00:07:59,610 --> 00:08:01,110 married men. 124 00:08:02,170 --> 00:08:06,110 So even though he loved Cindy, and I think they would have eventually gotten 125 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:11,230 married, it was probably sooner than anyone expected, including himself, 126 00:08:11,230 --> 00:08:15,650 all I could see was how important it was for him to make a name in the business 127 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:16,670 and become a champion. 128 00:08:17,010 --> 00:08:20,310 He had that vision of what he wanted to do and where he wanted to be, and he 129 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:21,590 started his life on the road. 130 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:29,520 One of the discoveries of any wrestler in terms of this job is it starts out 131 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,520 real fun. 132 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:36,080 It starts out, oh my gosh, I got paid $300. 133 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:40,539 I'm going to have fun. I'm going to partner with Dick Murdoch and the Texas 134 00:08:40,539 --> 00:08:43,659 Outlaws. We're going to be the bad guys. This is so much fun. 135 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:46,860 Dick Murdoch was a character from Waxahachie, Texas. 136 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:50,520 Together, they were kind of of the same mindset. 137 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:55,380 Rhodes and Murdoch first came to Florida when I was a kid, and they had crew 138 00:08:55,380 --> 00:09:00,420 cuts and big fat bellies hanging out, and they were bad guys. 139 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:10,840 We're just a couple of old country boys drinking beer, wrestling, fighting. 140 00:09:11,260 --> 00:09:13,860 Dusty would say, we're not going to be outraged. 141 00:09:14,260 --> 00:09:15,460 We're going to be outrageous. 142 00:09:16,260 --> 00:09:17,420 And they were. 143 00:09:19,050 --> 00:09:24,430 We were traveling 340 days a year from one town to the next. You had 700 miles 144 00:09:24,430 --> 00:09:25,830 to go to get to the next town. 145 00:09:26,190 --> 00:09:27,470 Yeah, there was a bar we'd stop. 146 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:31,030 And we had a good following, territorial -wise. 147 00:09:31,270 --> 00:09:32,870 Did a movie called The Wrestler. 148 00:09:41,070 --> 00:09:44,290 That was not far -fetched by any stretch of the imagination. 149 00:09:44,990 --> 00:09:48,470 Murdoch would get in a fight every Friday night. 150 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:51,870 It's fun. 151 00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:58,110 And then you realize the layer of work that it takes to get to the next block. 152 00:09:59,310 --> 00:10:05,170 And that's where it goes from being just this silly vocation to your life's 153 00:10:05,170 --> 00:10:06,170 work. 154 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:12,550 A lot of people don't know that my grandfather, dad's dad, died the day 155 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:13,550 was born. 156 00:10:13,950 --> 00:10:16,970 I did not talk to him a lot about that. 157 00:10:17,340 --> 00:10:20,200 There's absolutely no way that I can imagine that. 158 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:25,680 For him to lose his father and then, oh, my God, now I have a baby boy. 159 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:28,740 That would send anybody into overload, man. 160 00:10:29,340 --> 00:10:36,080 Dusty told me he was so excited about having a grandchild, and Dusty 161 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:42,980 took some cigars that said, it's a boy, and he put them in his pocket, you 162 00:10:42,980 --> 00:10:44,320 know, in the coffin. 163 00:10:45,060 --> 00:10:47,420 You know, I mean, that's... That's hard. 164 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,900 My dad never saw him wrestle. 165 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:58,200 But when my dad passed away, one of the belongings he had in his wallet was an 166 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,160 old program for an event that my brother had been in. 167 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:04,060 It's hard for me not to get emotional. 168 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,520 But Dusty was always able to kind of put those things in perspective. 169 00:11:10,220 --> 00:11:14,520 He could have all of those kinds of things going on in his life and seemed 170 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,680 know, you know, what to do and how to do it. 171 00:11:19,260 --> 00:11:22,620 I think Dusty had a knack for knowing when it's time. 172 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:29,000 Probably one of the hardest decisions he made, and I think definitely the most 173 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,380 important decision he made, was when it was time to leave Dick. 174 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:38,620 His tag team partner from Austin, Texas, Blaine 200. 175 00:11:39,260 --> 00:11:42,220 80 pounds, dirty, dusty road. 176 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:46,980 He loved the Texas Outlaws, and he loved doing what they were doing, but I think 177 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:49,260 in Dusty's mind, he was scratching the surface. 178 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:52,200 He felt like he had more tools. 179 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:54,160 He had more in the tank. 180 00:11:54,740 --> 00:11:59,480 I don't think that the promoters recognized the fact that I was a great 181 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,600 worker or performer. 182 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,940 They recognized that I had charisma. 183 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,500 I had to find a way to grow it into becoming the American Dream. 184 00:12:23,090 --> 00:12:29,170 I had that one element that you cannot give anyone. 185 00:12:30,420 --> 00:12:34,580 Charisma. The greatest rap master, the greatest wrestler, the greatest super 186 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:38,800 heavyweight in the world. It's about winning. You either have it or you 187 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,940 This is the Iron Man. January the 1st is the new year. It's new rap materials. 188 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:46,560 It's new titles and such. You understand what I'm saying? It's going to be 189 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:49,280 dynamite. This lady is going to feel the American dreams. 190 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:50,840 I have studied all the tapes. 191 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,600 I think this was at my Christmas party. I figured out right away I can sell more 192 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,760 tickets talking them in the building. 193 00:12:58,460 --> 00:13:00,400 than actually what they were seeing in the building. 194 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Was it worth the damn pain? Was it worth the pain? 195 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:07,560 When I look back at characters that were developing for The American Dream, 196 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:12,020 Thunderbolt Patterson was one of my guys. I like the finer things in life, 197 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:14,320 know, like diamond rings and Cadillacs. 198 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,180 Thank you. You following me? I dig it. 199 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,100 It seemed to be like music. There was a rhythm to it. When I was growing up, I 200 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:25,180 sure didn't think 265 pounds of blue -eyed soul would captivate a country 201 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:31,160 hell. The people drive me. He's somebody that gives off complete comfort around 202 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,980 black people. I think he gets a bit subversive in a way that I think brings 203 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:37,740 comfort to certainly me and I think a lot of his black fans. 204 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Dusty made everything about being Dusty Rhodes cool. 205 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:47,920 And if you was from the neighborhood, Dusty was like the only black wrestler 206 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,160 that we had to look up to. 207 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:58,620 Because of Dusty Rhodes growing up in a part of Boston that was multiracial, I 208 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:02,800 see him as somebody in a line with an Elvis Presley or a Jerry Lee Lewis. 209 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,040 People who were white, who were greatly influenced by the Southern Baptist black 210 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:14,880 church. Everything I will be is up to 211 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,880 you. 212 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:22,690 He took a black experience and translated it To a white audience. You 213 00:14:22,690 --> 00:14:26,210 up in this building in a matter of few hours when it's full and you can see a 214 00:14:26,210 --> 00:14:30,110 black man and a white man eating out of the same popcorn box. 215 00:14:32,010 --> 00:14:33,010 That's funky. 216 00:14:33,570 --> 00:14:37,610 Dusty's appeal was the fact that Dusty was just like the audience. 217 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:39,230 I'm just one of you, baby. 218 00:14:39,710 --> 00:14:40,910 I'm just like you. 219 00:14:41,290 --> 00:14:43,430 So come help me because I need you. 220 00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:48,730 And you felt when Dusty was in the ring that you were right there with him. 221 00:14:50,540 --> 00:14:53,660 It's about winning for my people, baby. 222 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:00,200 Until I heard him talk, I couldn't see what the attraction was because, I mean, 223 00:15:00,220 --> 00:15:04,880 I saw this guy didn't look like an athlete, but judging a book by the cover 224 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,740 him would be a great mistake. 225 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,800 You can't judge a book by looking at the cover. 226 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,660 Can't you see? 227 00:15:22,070 --> 00:15:23,070 I'm a lover. 228 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:29,350 You can't judge a book by looking at the cover. The greatest athlete, the 229 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:33,590 greatest rapper, the greatest singer, the greatest sleeper. I can sleep cool, 230 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:35,990 brother. Go and cheer on the new year, 1977. 231 00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:37,730 The Razzmatazz. 232 00:15:38,050 --> 00:15:39,970 287 pounds of sweet soul. 233 00:15:40,270 --> 00:15:44,150 You can't judge a book by looking at the cover. 234 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:47,710 That was kind of like Pied Piper. 235 00:15:48,350 --> 00:15:53,870 Dusty would just bring everybody and they would follow him. Everything I am, 236 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:55,270 owe to the American way of life. 237 00:15:55,790 --> 00:16:01,930 What is more of an American dream than being able to make it on your own terms? 238 00:16:02,610 --> 00:16:08,250 So you have a lisp, you're overweight, your clothes are ill -fitting. You get 239 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:10,950 be you and you still get to make it. 240 00:16:11,850 --> 00:16:16,470 There was a lot of patriotism and rah -rah USA at the time and he's... 241 00:16:16,810 --> 00:16:20,430 He is wrestling against, at that point, the evil Korean, Pak Song. 242 00:16:20,750 --> 00:16:25,190 Pak Song with one single purpose in mind, to rid the wrestling world of the 243 00:16:25,190 --> 00:16:26,190 American dream. 244 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:32,670 The Korean assassin versus the American dream, 245 00:16:32,990 --> 00:16:34,270 Dusty Rhodes. 246 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:42,350 And somehow, the son of a plumber overcomes. 247 00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:45,370 There's only one dream. 248 00:16:45,870 --> 00:16:46,870 I am the man. 249 00:16:46,990 --> 00:16:48,330 Go on with it, baby. 250 00:16:48,850 --> 00:16:55,490 It's that rivalry between his self and Pac Song that really branded him and 251 00:16:55,490 --> 00:16:58,150 created the American dream. 252 00:16:59,710 --> 00:17:01,930 I've been hooked forever on Dusty Rhodes. 253 00:17:02,150 --> 00:17:03,590 Mimicked him all through high school. 254 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:07,290 And then when I first had a little bit of a breakup in Memphis. 255 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:11,430 You can hear in my promos. I'm going, let me tell you something, baby. 256 00:17:11,650 --> 00:17:14,230 Terry Boulder. I was trying to be Dusty Rhodes. 257 00:17:14,550 --> 00:17:16,730 I'm going to put the super southern squeeze on you, daddy. 258 00:17:16,930 --> 00:17:19,369 And I'm going to turn you over to these people in Memphis and let them whip on 259 00:17:19,369 --> 00:17:22,349 you a little bit after you're down and out. And it was just such a poor 260 00:17:22,349 --> 00:17:24,810 imitation of Dusty Rhodes. It's embarrassing now. 261 00:17:25,369 --> 00:17:28,050 Dusty Rhodes must have thought, oh, my God, this guy is just. 262 00:17:40,650 --> 00:17:42,450 This industry is very tough. 263 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:46,030 You have to sacrifice. 264 00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:51,410 You have to sacrifice your body. You have to sacrifice your mind. You 265 00:17:51,410 --> 00:17:52,710 those that you love. 266 00:17:53,650 --> 00:17:58,750 When I'm looking back at everything, people would be like, oh, my gosh, I 267 00:17:58,750 --> 00:18:01,490 believe your father is the American Dream Dusty Rhodes. That's the coolest 268 00:18:01,490 --> 00:18:02,490 ever. 269 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:04,210 Yeah, it's pretty cool. 270 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,470 But at the same time, you know, he was just. 271 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,660 Our dad, we're having to share him with the world. 272 00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:16,520 Sometimes I thought about that, and I just thought that was just kind of 273 00:18:16,740 --> 00:18:20,980 But back in the day when he was first starting out, I didn't see it that way. 274 00:18:20,980 --> 00:18:21,980 was so young. 275 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,500 We saw our dad a couple times a year, and when we did, it was the greatest 276 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:27,500 of our life. 277 00:18:28,020 --> 00:18:34,240 But Justin and I have a completely different perspective on when my father 278 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,240 first starting out. 279 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,740 Honestly, man, it just hurt, and I wanted him. 280 00:18:39,130 --> 00:18:43,970 And I wanted to be with him. And I wanted it so bad, desperate, desperate 281 00:18:43,970 --> 00:18:44,889 it. 282 00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:47,390 My dad just had that vision and he went after it. 283 00:18:47,870 --> 00:18:54,570 And yes, he wasn't home a lot. Yes, he was gone a lot. But there was no lack of 284 00:18:54,570 --> 00:18:57,110 love there. My father was our father. 285 00:18:57,950 --> 00:19:00,550 At the same time, my mom lost her husband. 286 00:19:02,550 --> 00:19:05,770 They divorced when Kristen was two years old. 287 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,440 That was the way it was. If you wanted to make a living, you had to go to the 288 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,620 different territories. You had to work. 289 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:20,280 I was young, and I didn't understand what kind of a star he was becoming. 290 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,500 A boy needs his dad. 291 00:19:27,020 --> 00:19:29,760 In 1977, he was in Florida. 292 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:34,820 The Imperial Lounge was where you could go to listen to country music. 293 00:19:35,310 --> 00:19:39,270 That was his favorite place to hang out, and that's where I met him. 294 00:19:40,270 --> 00:19:44,810 He was the American dream at that point, very popular there. 295 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:51,630 I had asked Dusty for an autograph for my little brothers and sisters, and he 296 00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:56,450 said, well, if you come next week, I have some photos. I'll bring you those. 297 00:19:56,450 --> 00:20:03,150 I went next week, and I started thinking, yeah, you know, I 298 00:20:03,150 --> 00:20:04,150 like this guy. 299 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:10,760 So it wasn't love at first sight, but I fell in love with him very quickly. 300 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:17,200 Just absolute madness comes with the American Dream, Dusty Rhodes, and she 301 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,200 game. 302 00:20:22,990 --> 00:20:26,230 A man who has figuratively set the wrestling world on fire. 303 00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:27,590 Mr. Soul. 304 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:28,930 Mr. Charisma. 305 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:30,430 Mr. Dusty Rhodes. 306 00:20:31,450 --> 00:20:36,710 287 pounds of sweet soap. I have wined and dined with kings and queens. 307 00:20:37,390 --> 00:20:41,190 But I slept in alley and dined on pork and beans. And everybody here has dined 308 00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:42,870 on pork and beans one time in their life. 309 00:20:43,530 --> 00:20:47,550 I reached for a star. I reached for a dream. Talk about the American dream. 310 00:20:48,690 --> 00:20:49,850 Superstar Billy Graham. 311 00:20:50,830 --> 00:20:53,870 The gold around your waist will be mine. 312 00:20:56,350 --> 00:21:03,150 In the late 70s, Dusty had proven himself as an attraction, and all 313 00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:06,010 wanted to be able to bring that draw to their town. 314 00:21:06,610 --> 00:21:12,570 Dusty worked primarily in Florida, but he had started doing different shows 315 00:21:12,570 --> 00:21:13,810 around the country. 316 00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:19,950 Do we have another capacity crowd from 22 ,000 people jamming Madison Square 317 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:23,180 Garden? You want to headline Madison Square Garden. 318 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:29,500 Madison Square Garden is the map. Here comes Superstar Billy Graham, the 319 00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:32,380 reigning worldwide wrestling federation heavyweight champion. 320 00:21:33,180 --> 00:21:39,300 And the ruler of ground now is for the American dream, and it's for Mr. Dusty 321 00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:40,300 Rhodes. 322 00:21:45,140 --> 00:21:47,240 Superstar Billy Graham and Dusty Rhodes. 323 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,680 Two of the most charismatic individuals clashing for the first time in Madison 324 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,100 Square Garden. That was magic. 325 00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,600 Grab has never seen moves like that before. 326 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,460 The American dream, Dusty Rhodes, could have a roly -poly time statue as 327 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,900 compared to Superstar Grab. 328 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:11,780 Oh, baby! 329 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,150 Physically and aesthetically, Couldn't be more opposite. 330 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:23,150 However, they both played an integral part in just the evolution of the 331 00:22:23,150 --> 00:22:25,390 business, where it went to a little more entertainment. 332 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:32,650 Dusty Rhodes was my only reason at the time to want to be a wrestler. 333 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:36,950 But then when superstar Billy Graham climbed on the second rope and hit that 334 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:41,090 double bicep, I went, whoa, I want to be just like that guy. 335 00:22:42,670 --> 00:22:45,850 I said, man, I wondered what the possibilities would be to end up. 336 00:22:46,110 --> 00:22:49,310 Looking like that, but wrestling with Dusty Rhodes' charisma. 337 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:50,750 Hmm. 338 00:22:50,910 --> 00:22:52,430 I wonder if that could be possible. 339 00:22:53,610 --> 00:22:54,890 Hmm, it is possible. 340 00:22:56,050 --> 00:22:58,970 The three matches with him there, so special. 341 00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:00,810 The matches were amazing. 342 00:23:01,230 --> 00:23:08,070 Randy Warhol, Steinbrenner, Hoffman, Cheryl Teague, 343 00:23:08,150 --> 00:23:12,890 Peter Baird, all in attendance, in the audience. Edgar Winters, Fred Medler, 344 00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:13,890 in the audience. 345 00:23:19,710 --> 00:23:24,290 Didn't want to leave the ring because of the goosebumps and what I was feeling 346 00:23:24,290 --> 00:23:25,290 at that moment. 347 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:32,390 After the matches, we went out to celebrate with all of our new friends, 348 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:33,650 know, a lot of fun. 349 00:23:34,290 --> 00:23:40,490 When you went to Studio 54, there was just this crazy cast of characters, 350 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:44,690 artists, singers, and they loved us. 351 00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:47,470 Back then, it was the rare soul who... 352 00:23:47,770 --> 00:23:52,490 like pro wrestling, not only for who would win or lose, but also for the joy 353 00:23:52,490 --> 00:23:56,750 the spectacle of it. And it says so much about Dusty Rhodes' talent and his 354 00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:58,150 ability to connect with an audience. 355 00:23:59,190 --> 00:24:05,470 Dusty met Andy Warhol a couple of times, and, you know, birds of a feather. 356 00:24:07,210 --> 00:24:08,810 I like the lifestyle. 357 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:14,790 I wasn't a conventional kind of girl, so it appealed to me. 358 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:16,890 We dated for a while. 359 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Then we moved in together about a year. 360 00:24:20,380 --> 00:24:24,800 What was important to me wasn't the fact that he'd been divorced. 361 00:24:25,020 --> 00:24:31,420 I was more concerned about what kind of father he was. 362 00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:34,480 You can't love a man if he's a crappy father. 363 00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:39,320 We had gone out to Austin to visit Dustin and Kristen. 364 00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:43,390 And just out of the blue, he asked me to marry him. 365 00:24:43,690 --> 00:24:47,570 And I said yes because I did want to get married. 366 00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:51,630 But up until that point, I really hadn't thought about it. I was happy with 367 00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:52,750 things the way they were. 368 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:54,010 So we got married. 369 00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:58,070 My mom is suddenly a stepmom. 370 00:24:58,490 --> 00:25:02,690 And I think that that was natural for her because in her family, there's lots 371 00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:03,690 people. 372 00:25:04,150 --> 00:25:07,350 When we got married, Dustin and Kristen were very young. 373 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:10,400 We would see them whenever we could. 374 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:16,940 We would have them on holidays and in the summer, but it was a long -distance 375 00:25:16,940 --> 00:25:17,940 relationship. 376 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:20,940 Absolutely. That's how it went. 377 00:25:21,380 --> 00:25:26,380 Getting there to Tampa, seeing the horses, seeing the pool, swimming in the 378 00:25:26,380 --> 00:25:29,700 pool, seeing Dad occasionally, not a lot. 379 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,780 I didn't want to go somewhere else and me not be around him anymore. 380 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,940 I wanted to go where he was going. 381 00:25:36,850 --> 00:25:41,350 No, he wasn't home a lot, but in some strange way, I had an understanding. 382 00:25:41,610 --> 00:25:45,570 And I think, again, it goes back to me just admiring the vision that he had and 383 00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:46,870 what a great person that he was. 384 00:25:48,010 --> 00:25:51,310 Dusty Rhodes has achieved victory here at Madison Square Garden. 385 00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:55,990 The notoriety that came from superstar Billy Graham, Dusty Rhodes' match, it 386 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:58,870 helped me prepare myself for all the race. 387 00:25:59,590 --> 00:26:03,210 The National Wrestling Alliance World Series title was the ultimate goal. 388 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:08,560 NWA World Heavyweight Champions held the championship for several years. 389 00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:14,380 And to defeat the champion and actually lay claim to being a World Heavyweight 390 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:17,480 Champion was a huge deal. 391 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,980 Dusty, what was going through your mind at that moment? 392 00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:37,780 and become world's heavyweight wrestling champion with that blow right there. 393 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:38,940 That is mystery. 394 00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:49,960 In that moment, you're riveted, and you do think that winning is possible when 395 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,240 all the odds tell us that winning is not possible. That is activated by Dusty 396 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,860 Rhodes, being able to embody the American dream. 397 00:26:59,050 --> 00:27:03,470 He considered the world championship to be the highest honor. You can't get him 398 00:27:03,470 --> 00:27:04,950 to say that wrestling was fake. 399 00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:06,410 You can't. 400 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:08,410 And it's because it's not. 401 00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:13,950 That moment wasn't. And when you take it that seriously, the fans take you 402 00:27:13,950 --> 00:27:17,610 seriously. And they support you. They're crying with you. They're cheering with 403 00:27:17,610 --> 00:27:21,010 you. And that would parlay into the next big step in his career. 404 00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:25,330 This is an example for every man, woman, and child. Dream of a dream. 405 00:27:25,550 --> 00:27:30,790 Have a dream. Have a way to get it. Hold on to it and shoot for the sky because 406 00:27:30,790 --> 00:27:35,810 I have been to the mountaintop and it will take a hell of a man to knock me 407 00:27:37,950 --> 00:27:42,690 To my left, the American dream, Dusty Rhodes, and it's most unusual that we're 408 00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:49,110 here in an empty arena because Dusty Rhodes fills arenas. The man of the 409 00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:50,130 the man with the power. 410 00:27:51,050 --> 00:27:52,690 The hit maker, the record breaker. 411 00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:58,090 In the early 80s, he'd become a big star. 412 00:27:58,490 --> 00:28:01,470 Who are you hoping will win the world title tonight? Oh, I want to see. 413 00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:06,750 The little plumber son who come out of the ditch and became so sweet. 414 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:12,530 Can you dig it? Became so sweet. 415 00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:14,410 Yeah, it's on fire. 416 00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:16,750 You better believe it's on fire. 417 00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:20,290 When Vince was looking at his expansion. 418 00:28:20,890 --> 00:28:27,810 Vince looked at Dusty Rove and saw Dusty is the guy to make it what it 419 00:28:27,810 --> 00:28:28,810 has become today. 420 00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:31,450 That is electrified butt. 421 00:28:31,690 --> 00:28:35,850 One of Dusty's biggest attributes, and I don't know if this is the proper term 422 00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:37,650 these days, but just balls. 423 00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:44,310 Because for him to, they know, walking away from that top spot, he just had a 424 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:45,310 gut feeling. 425 00:28:46,270 --> 00:28:49,590 Dusty always wanted to produce wrestling. 426 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,660 So he went to the Carolinas for Jim Crockett. 427 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,900 This is the most down -to -home situation in the world of Wrestling of 428 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:03,300 the national Wrestling of the Life. He got to produce TV shows, promote 429 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,800 and got to wrestle. There was just more opportunity for what Dusty wanted to do, 430 00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:14,100 even though when we moved to Charlotte, it was a wasteland. 431 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:19,000 At the time, Crockett promotions was kind of like a mouthful of oatmeal with 432 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,990 sugar. There were some good quality people there, but they didn't have 433 00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:28,550 to spice it all up. And Dusty, he was a dreamer of epic proportion. 434 00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:31,350 He saw things on a huge scale. 435 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:36,010 This is the night for everybody to remember wrestling history to be made. 436 00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:37,010 really was a genius. 437 00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:41,550 I've been here over the years, from the war games to the Starrcade. 438 00:29:41,890 --> 00:29:45,610 Starrcade 83, this is the wrestling event of all time. 439 00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:50,770 And then, of course, Great American Bash on tour, man. And we hired everybody 440 00:29:50,770 --> 00:29:52,910 from George Jones to Waylon James. 441 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,710 I'm looking forward to being a part of the Great American Bash. 442 00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:58,550 Went on the road, and it worked. 443 00:29:59,190 --> 00:30:00,430 We sold out everywhere. 444 00:30:00,950 --> 00:30:02,390 We were rocking and rolling. 445 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:05,690 The business started taking off. 446 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,460 And then they got on TVS. So their show was going in more and more homes. 447 00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:14,300 All of a sudden you're reaching a mass audience. 448 00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:21,140 So a kid in New York City like myself could watch this very regional carnival 449 00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:22,140 enterprise. 450 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,520 And I remember being 10, 11 years old watching Dusty Rhodes versus Ric Flair. 451 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:30,980 and I'd never seen anything like this before. 452 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:34,100 And this is the moment that we've all been waiting for right here. 453 00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:38,440 It's the New York Yankees and the Brooklyn Dodgers. It's Muhammad Ali and 454 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,020 Frazier. It's one of the great rivalries in the history of sports entertainment. 455 00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:49,260 He doesn't like me getting ahead, and that perks me right here for him to get 456 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:52,880 ahead. The ultimate bad guy and the ultimate blue -collar guy. 457 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,580 We just had that magic, man. We loved to interview against each other. It became 458 00:30:57,580 --> 00:30:58,580 a real competition. 459 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,320 I don't put values in the same thing Ric Flair does. The Rolex! 460 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:05,380 We're in! 461 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,140 Diamond ring wearing. 462 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240 I'm the son of a plumber. I was raised in Austin, Texas. 463 00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:16,860 Can't steal it. Never had anything unless I fought for it. Lemons being 464 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,040 Jet flying. 465 00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:24,620 Son of a gun. Unless I got down on my knees and went for it. It is so hard to 466 00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:28,200 humble when you're looking like Ric Flair. 467 00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:32,220 Here goes Flair over the top rope. 468 00:31:32,860 --> 00:31:38,260 But I want to be the number one entertainer. The one -upsmanship, 469 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,700 definitely, it's there. 470 00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:42,740 Well, it's smashed into that steel ring, folks. 471 00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:45,800 He has got a bad cut. 472 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,080 We can depict violence that is not common today. It was very much a part of 473 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,440 craft of what we did for the most theatrical effect that we can get. 474 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,760 He has stopped the man. 475 00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:00,100 He has stopped it. 476 00:32:00,650 --> 00:32:02,430 Because of a cut on the arm. 477 00:32:04,510 --> 00:32:05,530 Wait a second. 478 00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:13,070 Ric Flair, if you call this a victory, you need to go home and kiss your mama. 479 00:32:14,010 --> 00:32:16,630 This ain't no victory. This ain't over. 480 00:32:16,910 --> 00:32:20,650 Dusty looked at pro wrestling just like a movie. 481 00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:22,510 It was cinema. 482 00:32:23,070 --> 00:32:27,230 It was this long tale that didn't just include the moment. 483 00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:31,790 Look what Ric Flair is doing. He is padlocking that cage. So Dusty Rhodes is 484 00:32:31,790 --> 00:32:35,410 helpless. Not only that, he cannot be helped by anyone from the outside. 485 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:41,710 Seeing the adult nature of these conflicts, it felt like adults were 486 00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:44,630 with their fists over big issues. 487 00:32:45,070 --> 00:32:49,970 I was at ringside, Bob. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Down he goes 488 00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:50,970 Dusty Rhodes. 489 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,820 And right now, you know, everybody is in a panic right now because, see, Tony, 490 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,660 too, a lot of concern for this injury. 491 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,880 It was real. 492 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,340 And I believed in it. They broke my dad's leg. 493 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,740 That's how they portrayed it. And they weren't going to have anybody saying 494 00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:07,699 was funny. 495 00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:11,760 This is why wrestling in the 80s was so awesome, because everything was real. 496 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:17,460 Dusty Rhodes brought that sensibility that you needed to know not just what 497 00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:20,260 happening in the ring, but what was happening in the locker room. 498 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,180 What's happening in the parking lot? 499 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,420 It was like a reality series. 500 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,620 And you needed to see this week because it explained last week. And then you 501 00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:33,500 needed to watch next week because it would explain this week. 502 00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:38,240 So really, it sounds like, Dusty, if you want to be ready, you're going to have 503 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,660 to do exactly what he tells you when he tells you. 504 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,900 There's no doubt, David, that I have to do what he tells me. 505 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,140 One day, I saw the cast in his closet. 506 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,400 And I'm like, what the? 507 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,940 And it's got a big slit down the middle, and that's how you would get it on. 508 00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:01,580 And wore it around the house, and he kayfabed his own kids. 509 00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:05,760 Ladies and gentlemen, you all know that Dusty Rhodes has been injured. Well, we 510 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,300 want to welcome back tonight Dusty Rhodes for his first interview since his 511 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:16,400 injury. Here is the American dream, Dusty Rhodes. And Dusty, your fans 512 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,400 you back. 513 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,800 Think about that period in the 80s, what was happening in U .S. society. The 514 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,420 biggest shows were Dynasty and Dallas. But there was an underbelly underneath 515 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:32,199 that in U .S. society at the time. And that was working class people, black and 516 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,139 white, particularly union, who were seeing their lives and living standards 517 00:34:36,139 --> 00:34:38,300 utterly immiserated, if not destroyed. 518 00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:41,790 Hard times on Dusty Rhodes and his family. 519 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:44,730 You don't know what hard times are, daddy. 520 00:34:44,989 --> 00:34:49,570 Hard times are when the textile workers around this country are out of work. 521 00:34:49,590 --> 00:34:54,429 They got four or five kids and can't pay their wages, can't buy their food. Hard 522 00:34:54,429 --> 00:34:59,670 times are when the auto workers are out of work and they tell them go home. And 523 00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:01,650 hard times are when... 524 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,180 and say, hey, a computer took your place, daddy. That's hard time. 525 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,700 That's hard time. 526 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,540 We're at this point where companies are thinking about how do they replace 527 00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:27,840 unionized labor. And the reality is the idea of achieving the American dream is 528 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,840 starting to slip away. 529 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,920 And Ric Flair, you put hard times on this country by taking Dusty Rhodes out. 530 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,200 That's hard time. 531 00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:40,390 Dusty was the son of a plumber. I was the guy born with a golden spoon. 532 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:42,710 And it's basically the truth. 533 00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:46,110 You know, my dad was a doctor. Dad was a plumber. 534 00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:48,330 Dusty was just saying you to me. 535 00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:50,650 Nature boy, Ric Flair. 536 00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:56,750 The world's heavyweight title belongs to these people. I'm going to reach out 537 00:35:56,750 --> 00:36:02,590 right now. I want you at home to know my hand is touching your hand. What, me? 538 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:09,340 that promo so special, like it dips into the anger and the disillusionment that 539 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:14,020 we feel, but it also asks us to reach for something greater, to reach out to 540 00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:16,060 him, but also to reach out to each other. 541 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,280 Let me leave you with this. 542 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,180 One way to hurt Ric Flair is to take what he cherishes more than anything in 543 00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:28,180 world. 544 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,780 That's the world's heavyweight title. 545 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,040 I'm going to take it. I've been there twice. 546 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,500 This time when I take it, daddy, I'm going to take it for you. 547 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,120 Let's get up for it. 548 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,320 Don't let me down now. For an interview to be amazing, the person giving that 549 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,980 interview has to believe it. 550 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:51,720 And that is really the secret to his success, because he really was the 551 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:55,960 dream. I can't say that I'm going to walk through my house and show the 552 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,280 all the fine, great things that I've earned in this profession. 553 00:37:00,140 --> 00:37:02,880 But there's one thing when I walk through my house that I see every day of 554 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,500 life. She's about that high and she's two years old. And I got two other ones 555 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:08,500 too. 556 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,720 Dusty had missed out on so much, Dustin and Kristen's life. 557 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,400 He never talked about it, but I know it's something that just weighed heavy 558 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,400 his heart. 559 00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:26,980 When Teal was born, her birth was like a second chance at fatherhood. 560 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:32,370 And when Cody was born, We never went anywhere that we didn't take our kids. 561 00:37:33,490 --> 00:37:37,530 Dustin came to live with us the summer before his junior year of high school. 562 00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:40,790 He just wanted to be around his dad, period. 563 00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:43,510 But he wasn't doing well in school. 564 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:48,430 I think Dusty saw Dustin as being like this great football player. 565 00:37:48,670 --> 00:37:52,630 He had been offered some football scholarships, but you've got to have the 566 00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:57,590 grades as well, and that bothered Dusty. Dusty wanted his kids to go to college. 567 00:37:58,060 --> 00:38:02,240 He was worried about what Dustin was going to do and did not want Dustin to 568 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:03,240 in the wrestling business. 569 00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:08,620 He was trying to keep me away from it because it's a tough life. 570 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,460 You're looking at the greatest wrestlers alive today. 571 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,280 Three. 572 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,340 What do we got here, huh? 573 00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:24,800 Ric Flair versus Dusty Rhodes. 574 00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:26,660 This was years of struggle. 575 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:28,180 By Dusty Rhodes. 576 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:31,600 Look at the World Heavyweight Championship. 577 00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:35,600 1986 Great American Badge. 578 00:38:36,060 --> 00:38:38,720 Ric Flair is legitimately the man. 579 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:45,180 The man. And Dusty, throughout their rivalry, it's loss 580 00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:48,060 after loss after loss. 581 00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:55,520 But from a wrestling perspective, those weren't losses. That is the definition 582 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,520 of the chase. 583 00:38:57,620 --> 00:38:59,800 Dusty was like an open nerve. 584 00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:02,540 Dusty was your pain. 585 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:04,540 Dusty was vulnerability. 586 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:16,580 People needed to see him come 587 00:39:16,580 --> 00:39:17,578 out on top. 588 00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:20,540 They needed to feel like they were coming out on top, finally. 589 00:39:42,090 --> 00:39:46,130 People are losing their mind because they were in on the chase with him. 590 00:39:47,230 --> 00:39:49,110 They love Dusty so much. 591 00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:55,570 To have him finally beat Ric Flair, to have him do it in a steel cage, I mean, 592 00:39:55,590 --> 00:39:58,370 it did amazing things for Dusty Rhodes' legend. 593 00:40:00,490 --> 00:40:05,330 To see them work in these huge arenas and huge stadiums and selling them out, 594 00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:07,010 they're on top of the world. 595 00:40:08,650 --> 00:40:14,470 So it was very important that the NWA stayed in lockstep with what the WWE was 596 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:15,470 doing. 597 00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:18,830 Depending upon which side you're on is how you view things. 598 00:40:19,090 --> 00:40:22,810 In the South, looking at it from that point of view, it's like, man, we're 599 00:40:22,810 --> 00:40:24,790 great. We've got a hell of an opportunity here. 600 00:40:25,370 --> 00:40:30,710 Then when you get up to New York and looking at the scope of that, you 601 00:40:31,110 --> 00:40:32,770 oh my God, they don't have a chance. 602 00:40:33,650 --> 00:40:36,790 There's a whole other world out there that... 603 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,200 had never heard of Jim Crockett Promotions. And what Jim Crockett 604 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,920 failed to recognize was that other audience. 605 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,840 It was a family -owned business, and we were running around like rock stars and 606 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,380 should have had a much greater accounting principle. 607 00:40:54,860 --> 00:41:01,160 Crockett sold the business to TBS, and Dusty got the call from Vince to come 608 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,160 work for him. 609 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:15,120 It was a little difficult at first because Dusty saw himself as Hulk Hogan. 610 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,920 Dusty looked in the mirror and saw Hulk. 611 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:24,620 We didn't have that eyesight Dusty had. We looked at him and went, be the common 612 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:29,280 man. One man's strength is another man's treasure. 613 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,720 At that juncture in his career, he was no longer a spring chicken. He wasn't on 614 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,780 the top of his game, so I wanted to go with more fun. 615 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,140 We did some vignettes of Dusty. 616 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,440 So entertaining. 617 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,880 Have no fear, the sun will plummet. What's going on, baby? Thank God you're 618 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,880 here. Woo! 619 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,440 Hey, aren't you? 620 00:41:47,780 --> 00:41:52,060 This man is America, Dusty Rhodes! 621 00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:54,000 He's just a common name. 622 00:41:55,580 --> 00:41:57,560 Right behind Whitney's name. 623 00:41:57,820 --> 00:41:58,820 And he's got the pole. 624 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:03,420 That's, uh, polka dots. 625 00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:05,140 What? 626 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,380 He needs polka dots. 627 00:42:08,620 --> 00:42:10,340 Yellow polka dots. It's everywhere. 628 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,940 We think he's nuts. 629 00:42:13,180 --> 00:42:15,200 What can I say? I'm into polka dots. 630 00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:17,040 The dream gets down. 631 00:42:17,540 --> 00:42:22,540 It was the difference between seeing somebody I looked up to and respected 632 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:23,540 seeing a cartoon. 633 00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:29,420 We lost an authentic, working -class voice. That ended. 634 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,040 The day the yellow polka dots came on. You know, I'm just a common man. 635 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,140 I was mixed about seeing Dusty Rhodes and the polka dots. I was kind of like 636 00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:45,740 heartbroken because I wanted the American dream Dusty Rhodes with the 637 00:42:45,740 --> 00:42:50,280 all over his head, bleeding like a pig every night, doing the hard times 638 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:51,780 He didn't care. 639 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,540 He was so glad. 640 00:42:54,510 --> 00:42:59,110 to get the call to come to the WWE, he would have worn a diaper. As long as he 641 00:42:59,110 --> 00:43:01,250 was getting a big check, polka dots are great. 642 00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:08,090 There are fans to this day who will try to convince me that they made a mockery 643 00:43:08,090 --> 00:43:09,410 of the American dream. 644 00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:14,570 Maybe it was even punishment for having been the opposition or not coming the 645 00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:18,990 multiple times that he had been presented the opportunity to go. I don't 646 00:43:18,990 --> 00:43:19,990 that at all. 647 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:24,760 Whether it started out as a rib, I was from that school that I want to make 648 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,760 work. 649 00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,120 I want to put this back in somebody's face. 650 00:43:28,580 --> 00:43:33,600 It was a time that WWE was really breaking through major pop culture. 651 00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:36,840 And Dusty was absolutely part of that. 652 00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:38,720 He was always that guy. 653 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,320 Do you give it to me and I'll make it something. And Dusty's role was to make 654 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,320 the people jump. 655 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960 to make the fans get up out of their seats. 656 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,580 When he was playing the polka dot role, everybody still gravitated to Dusty 657 00:43:51,580 --> 00:43:57,980 Rhodes. It was just 18 months of his career, and it was likely the most money 658 00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:01,880 he'd ever made. And I don't think it was a practical joke at all. And if it was, 659 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,880 he threw it back in their face, and they were smart enough to let him throw it 660 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,140 back in their face and run with it. He's got more than Sapphire in this corner. 661 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,980 He's got his son Dustin right there. 662 00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:19,830 I was there for all these moments, man, and yes, of course I want to be a pro 663 00:44:19,830 --> 00:44:23,970 wrestler, and I really want to do this, and I'm going to do this whether you 664 00:44:23,970 --> 00:44:25,470 like it or not, Dad, right? 665 00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:30,470 And he did not want that for me. He wanted me to go to college, but you know 666 00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:31,470 what I wanted more? 667 00:44:32,350 --> 00:44:34,830 I wanted to be like my dad. 668 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:40,350 And he said, Dustin, you want this business? I'm going to let you do it. 669 00:44:40,350 --> 00:44:41,350 my son. 670 00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:45,030 And the legacy of the American dream lives in this kid's heart. 671 00:44:45,330 --> 00:44:50,190 And what he don't know, we're going to teach him. Because Dustin Rose right 672 00:44:50,190 --> 00:44:54,010 is getting ready to get funky like a monkey in Florida. 673 00:44:54,430 --> 00:44:59,790 He breaks me into the business. This is the first time that I am hearing what 674 00:44:59,790 --> 00:45:01,810 pro wrestling is from the inside. 675 00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:06,710 Dustin had been in Florida and felt that Dustin had the chops. 676 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,140 At that point in his career, young, still had a lot to learn. 677 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,320 But why not? Let's give him a shot and bring him in as Dusty's son. It was 678 00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:19,540 Wait a minute. What is this? We've got Ted DiBiase on one side. 679 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,860 We've got Virgil on the other side, liking Justin Rhodes. 680 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,500 Wait a minute. Whoa! 681 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,280 Whoa! Did you see that? 682 00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:31,740 Oh, no. Oh, no. 683 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,660 No. Look what they're doing to Dusty Rhodes' son. 684 00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:39,550 My first thought was, like, this could get very interesting very quickly. 685 00:45:39,970 --> 00:45:45,890 Will Dusty Rhodes be granted the freedom to tell the story of his odyssey with 686 00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:46,930 his son, Dusty Rhodes? 687 00:45:47,470 --> 00:45:54,030 He swings it like this, straight onto my head, and the two corners 688 00:45:54,030 --> 00:45:59,190 hit me in the head and busted me open. I mean, wide open. 689 00:45:59,470 --> 00:46:01,810 But I felt so alive. 690 00:46:03,110 --> 00:46:04,110 Oh, no! 691 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:18,660 I'm just underneath him. Oh, my boy. And he's acting it out. He's crying, right? 692 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,600 And people are feeling it in the arena. And he's right there with me, you know? 693 00:46:36,270 --> 00:46:42,430 He missed a lot of Dustin's young life, and there were things he needed from his 694 00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:44,790 dad that he didn't get. 695 00:46:45,330 --> 00:46:51,350 For the first time, I think, in my life, I felt 696 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:55,210 connected to him. 697 00:46:59,030 --> 00:47:03,770 It was probably some of the most fun I ever had because I went outside the box. 698 00:47:04,190 --> 00:47:07,850 But as time went on in that year and a half, I got tired of it at the end 699 00:47:07,850 --> 00:47:09,290 because it wasn't me. 700 00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:16,470 It is great to be back with WCW. I'm talking about tonight. 91, 92, 93, 701 00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:22,390 the head of creative. He wrote the stories. He hired the talent. He set the 702 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:24,210 direction of the company from a creative perspective. 703 00:47:24,730 --> 00:47:30,610 He had just stepped out of actively being a full -time wrestler, and he was 704 00:47:30,610 --> 00:47:31,630 of an executive producer. 705 00:47:32,890 --> 00:47:37,830 And it meant he was with me a great deal of my childhood. 706 00:47:39,350 --> 00:47:42,510 He was our football coach when I was in middle school. 707 00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:44,470 He supported me in everything. 708 00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:50,510 He made me feel like the most special girl. 709 00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:52,270 It was an easy relationship. 710 00:47:53,330 --> 00:47:58,710 But there's no balance to having the world and having a family. 711 00:47:59,310 --> 00:48:04,510 We didn't suffer for it, but I think on that climb, my sister Christian and 712 00:48:04,510 --> 00:48:06,190 Dustin, I think that they did. 713 00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:10,070 My father loved us all, and he loved his kids first and foremost. 714 00:48:10,590 --> 00:48:15,670 You know, it's the time and space between all of us that's the enemy. 715 00:48:17,830 --> 00:48:18,830 Come here, Dustin. 716 00:48:21,150 --> 00:48:24,930 I want everybody to bear with me just for a minute. 717 00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:26,990 I want to talk to my son. 718 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:51,900 My favorite Dusty Rhodes interview I cannot watch 719 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:52,980 without. 720 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,280 being too deeply affected, is the interview he had with my brother. 721 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:05,800 He lays it on me with this promo that is just hair 722 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,400 standing on your arms type stuff to make you feel something was real. 723 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,040 I'm terrified. I mean, you're thrown into national television. You're young, 724 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,200 you're greener than you do. 725 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,120 Yeah, terrified. 726 00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:20,200 My dad's been doing this for 20 -something, 30 years. 727 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,940 It's easy for him, but, you know, all these people are staring at me now, and 728 00:49:24,940 --> 00:49:26,640 dad's talking to me, and I'm listening. 729 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,360 How do I act? I don't know what to do except just listen. 730 00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:36,600 When you walk behind and you're not a leader, then the view never changes, 731 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,500 The view never changes, baby. The view never changes. 732 00:49:42,030 --> 00:49:47,030 You have the ability to be the world's heavyweight wrestling champion. There is 733 00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:50,230 not a greater athlete at your age in this sport. 734 00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:56,370 To bring that to life within the context of a story and the real emotion 735 00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:59,070 that manifests because of it. 736 00:50:00,010 --> 00:50:06,630 Wow. I'm asking you if you can carry this old out of shape, old bent out, 737 00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:10,250 old spindly legged man. I want to be your partner. 738 00:50:12,750 --> 00:50:14,970 To offer to be his partner. 739 00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:22,810 That's like every kid wants that. 740 00:50:23,550 --> 00:50:25,190 And Dustin deserved that. 741 00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:31,990 He did. I can't watch it, but it's very special. The roads are blood. 742 00:50:32,210 --> 00:50:37,770 I don't need a handshake. What I need now from you is just a hug and a kiss to 743 00:50:37,770 --> 00:50:38,870 fill the deal, baby. 744 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,940 I had a ton of people over at the house, and I felt like he was going to cry. 745 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,080 And I could, like, hear it in his voice, and I thought, this is bad. 746 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,700 I don't think I want to watch. 747 00:50:54,940 --> 00:50:58,340 I don't think I can watch this, you know? And I had to, like, leave the 748 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,500 And I remember them being like, it's not real. You know, it's not real. 749 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,080 You know, it's fake. 750 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,740 I'm like, okay, buddy, I got it. 751 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:07,900 I mean, it's really just beautiful. 752 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,480 There were plenty of people in that crowd who had problems with their dad 753 00:51:13,850 --> 00:51:17,150 Their dad had problems with the son, and I don't think there was anything my dad 754 00:51:17,150 --> 00:51:18,490 was ever that proud of. 755 00:51:18,770 --> 00:51:19,810 Here he comes! 756 00:51:20,050 --> 00:51:21,050 Here we go! 757 00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:25,190 Dustin will tell you, I always wanted to be like my dad. 758 00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:30,730 Those were hard shoes to fill, and I think he always felt a tremendous amount 759 00:51:30,730 --> 00:51:35,550 pain and pressure that just built and built and just stayed with him. 760 00:51:35,770 --> 00:51:37,450 Dustin got married to Terry. 761 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,660 Dusty thought it was a very bad decision and was very vocal about it, which I 762 00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:44,000 think is where they went their separate ways at that point. 763 00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:50,840 I think that Dustin had a lot of resentment from when he was growing up. 764 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,200 wife just played into all of that. 765 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:59,160 I was made to choose a woman over my father. 766 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,420 And I chose the woman. 767 00:52:01,780 --> 00:52:06,660 I was mad and I was angry. I didn't want anything to do with my father. 768 00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:09,460 I didn't talk to my dad for five years. 769 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,620 It was heartbreaking because he suffered greatly because of it. 770 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,980 During those five years, I wanted nothing else than to do something 771 00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:23,340 I was tired of being Dustin Rhodes. 772 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,380 We're sitting there watching Dustin. 773 00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:42,300 And Dusty's just floored because he didn't have a clue. 774 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,600 All he knew was that Dustin was going to go to work at the WWE, and we all just 775 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,160 looked at each other. Yeah. 776 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,960 Dustin was Goldust. 777 00:52:51,540 --> 00:52:56,360 What does American Dream think of Goldust? Well, I really don't have any 778 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,280 You know, it's been about two years, two and a half years since I've talked to 779 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,160 him. Because of some mistakes he made with Dustin, Dustin was right. 780 00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:09,450 And being upset with that, he was. But where he wasn't right was letting the 781 00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:12,570 entire world know. I know you guys haven't talked. It might be not a bad 782 00:53:12,570 --> 00:53:14,150 opportunity to say what you got on your mind. 783 00:53:14,410 --> 00:53:15,670 Say what at least you want to say. 784 00:53:16,510 --> 00:53:17,448 About what? 785 00:53:17,450 --> 00:53:19,850 I can't, uh, there's lots to say. 786 00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:25,410 My initial impression of that character was that it was a slap in the face. It 787 00:53:25,410 --> 00:53:27,090 was an insult to Dusty and to Dustin. 788 00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:28,810 It's the dream! 789 00:53:38,570 --> 00:53:45,370 The danger going into a real life backstory is they go into a 790 00:53:45,370 --> 00:53:50,530 story and everybody's willing to pull back the curtain this much. 791 00:53:51,050 --> 00:53:55,190 Everybody's cool with that. But after a certain amount of time, you want the 792 00:53:55,190 --> 00:54:01,510 audience to lean in with you. You go from that much of the story to that much 793 00:54:01,510 --> 00:54:02,510 the story. 794 00:54:02,550 --> 00:54:06,670 And now you're exposing things and talking about things that you never 795 00:54:06,670 --> 00:54:07,670 thought you would. 796 00:54:07,930 --> 00:54:14,450 or intended to, and you don't realize how much it's going to affect you or the 797 00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:18,090 other people involved until after you do it, and by then it's too late. 798 00:54:18,350 --> 00:54:19,308 Oh, here we go! 799 00:54:19,310 --> 00:54:20,430 Woo -hoo! Here we go! 800 00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:24,170 Those things were way too fun. 801 00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:27,850 It was not easy, because in deep down I wanted him. 802 00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:35,490 And I know he did too. 803 00:54:37,610 --> 00:54:39,030 But we're both hard -headed. 804 00:54:40,530 --> 00:54:42,590 And we both didn't pick up the phone. 805 00:54:43,770 --> 00:54:48,310 My dad was depressed. He seemed really low. 806 00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:55,990 I'd find him sitting out on our porch, just like so down. 807 00:54:56,770 --> 00:55:02,210 And he'd say, you know, I was never a good father to Dustin. 808 00:55:02,750 --> 00:55:05,450 I should have done this. I should have done that. 809 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,960 You know, it was a really painful time, very painful time in our life. 810 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,940 During that time, my mom just kind of instinctively knew that she wasn't going 811 00:55:14,940 --> 00:55:16,880 to get to see Justin's daughter, Dakota. 812 00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:22,660 I remember the last time we saw her, I remember she cried on the way home. 813 00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:26,760 This falling out, he also cut me and Teal out. 814 00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:31,640 And that creates the same resentment that you were fighting against. 815 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,280 This young fellow, when he was eight years old, was digging ditches for his 816 00:55:52,340 --> 00:55:54,280 who was a plumber out in Texas. 817 00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:01,680 And he told our next inductee, there is and can be an American dream. 818 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,180 The American dream, Dufty Rose. 819 00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:14,860 I remember as a kid, we would have a conversation where he treated me like 820 00:56:14,860 --> 00:56:15,860 of the boys. 821 00:56:16,370 --> 00:56:20,410 In wrestling, and when you're the biggest fan of your dad, I mean, that's 822 00:56:20,410 --> 00:56:22,810 the ultimate gift on earth to have that. 823 00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:29,310 Cody was dressed in the boots and the jeans and the western shirt, and it was 824 00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:32,230 important to Dusty to hand that to him. That was his boy. 825 00:56:32,590 --> 00:56:36,750 I'm just standing there holding this Hall of Fame trophy, and I thought it 826 00:56:36,750 --> 00:56:39,150 the greatest thing ever in my life. 827 00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:44,370 Part of the reason I went on this vision quest with amateur wrestling and had 828 00:56:44,370 --> 00:56:45,370 such success. 829 00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:48,520 I loved that we were together with wrestling. 830 00:56:49,660 --> 00:56:52,380 Eventually, I fell in love with pro wrestling. 831 00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:56,400 There was nothing else that I would ever want to do. 832 00:56:57,420 --> 00:57:03,480 I want to thank my children, Peel and Cody, Kristen and Dustin Rhodes. 833 00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:05,940 You want me to elaborate? 834 00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:08,860 It wasn't on my radar. 835 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,020 Honestly, I just, I wasn't there. 836 00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:21,500 And then you grow up, you see what truly is important to you in your life. 837 00:57:22,420 --> 00:57:26,860 After not speaking to my dad for five years, I go with Barry Windham to 838 00:57:26,860 --> 00:57:30,460 Jacksonville, and I pull up in the parking lot, and Barry says, your dad is 839 00:57:30,460 --> 00:57:32,400 here, you know that, right? And I'm like, okay, whatever. 840 00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,340 He walks up to me, and I don't know what to expect. 841 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:42,080 And he walks up, and then at the last, like, six feet, he walks a little 842 00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:52,120 And he puts his, he basically tackles me and he hugs me. 843 00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:56,160 And I hugged him. 844 00:57:57,300 --> 00:58:00,940 And we hugged and didn't say a word. 845 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,580 And immediately, everything that was on his shoulders and mine 846 00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:11,800 dropped. 847 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:13,980 I was little. 848 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,680 So I know that there were issues with Pop and Dad, but there was never 849 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,600 bad that I knew of. I didn't learn about that until I was much older. 850 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,940 But he was so happy that he was back, and I don't think that either of them 851 00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:29,820 wanted to think too much about what happened. 852 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,520 They just wanted to be over that. 853 00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:34,260 He loved us all the same. 854 00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:40,800 He really did, and that was a hard lesson for a young, going into his 855 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,740 years, me to learn. 856 00:58:44,430 --> 00:58:46,530 My dad wanted his son back. 857 00:58:47,130 --> 00:58:48,130 That was it. 858 00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:55,830 This is where the big boys play, and let me tell you something. There is no 859 00:58:55,830 --> 00:59:00,150 better anywhere in the world than WCW. 860 00:59:00,850 --> 00:59:06,110 As a head of creative, he saw something bigger than most people saw when he 861 00:59:06,110 --> 00:59:07,290 looked at the wrestling product. 862 00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:21,640 He worked for Ron Simmons to be the first black champion. 863 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:27,800 He was pretty true to the decision that made it possible for us to expand this 864 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,960 idea of the American dream. 865 00:59:29,180 --> 00:59:34,580 And that right there just tells you a whole lot about Dusty Rhodes. Dusty was 866 00:59:34,580 --> 00:59:38,900 the guy to step up front and say, no, this is the guy who should be our 867 00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:44,400 champion. Opportunity knocks for WCW, the showcase of professional wrestling. 868 00:59:45,050 --> 00:59:48,470 But Dusty had a hard time adjusting to a corporate environment. 869 00:59:48,810 --> 00:59:53,650 Dusty just really didn't do the best with not being his own boss. 870 00:59:54,070 --> 00:59:59,310 And he had his hands in cuffs a lot because of the corporate structure of 871 00:59:59,310 --> 01:00:01,050 and World Championship Wrestling. 872 01:00:01,450 --> 01:00:07,090 But Dusty was a part of the team that was finally beating WWE from 96 until 873 01:00:07,090 --> 01:00:08,090 about the end of 98. 874 01:00:08,410 --> 01:00:09,730 That was a fun ride. 875 01:00:10,570 --> 01:00:13,570 And then Vince McMahon started to turn it around again. 876 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,240 That was less fun. 877 01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:19,840 And ultimately led to the end of WCW. 878 01:00:20,140 --> 01:00:23,680 I think at that point, Dusty was kind of just done. 879 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:31,660 One of the things about growing up in a culture of poverty, it instills within 880 01:00:31,660 --> 01:00:36,800 you a value of being really present oriented. 881 01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:40,280 He never had that ability. 882 01:00:41,180 --> 01:00:45,580 To look to the future, to plan for the future, to prepare for the future. 883 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,480 My dad's motto was always, if I have one dollar in my pocket, I'm spending two. 884 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,600 Spend your money, you'll make more later. 885 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,240 You don't need to do that. Don't do that. 886 01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,940 My dad always said, you come through life one time, you might as well pass by 887 01:01:01,940 --> 01:01:04,600 a Cadillac. And buddy, I passed by on a Cadillac. 888 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,660 Overspended, got behind the IRS. 889 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,200 I'm talking about a dollar in my pocket. 890 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,480 We were very broke. 891 01:01:14,580 --> 01:01:18,200 And he did everything in his power to make it so that we didn't know. 892 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,960 I do know it was incredibly difficult on him and my mother. I know that they 893 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,160 almost didn't make it. 894 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,400 My mom had gone back to school to be a nurse and to get a job and to work in a 895 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,180 hospital. And I thought at the time she just wanted a career. Her kids were 896 01:01:33,180 --> 01:01:37,580 older. I didn't realize how dire it was. 897 01:01:41,390 --> 01:01:45,430 Paul Heyman gave me a job when I was broke, and he knew I was on my ass. 898 01:01:49,530 --> 01:01:55,250 The worst part is where a wrestler 899 01:01:55,250 --> 01:01:58,350 loses the business completely. 900 01:01:59,330 --> 01:02:01,470 He's used to being out in front of a crowd. 901 01:02:01,970 --> 01:02:03,890 He's used to making a consistent living. 902 01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:09,350 It's not an easy ride when you're down in wrestling. It's really hard to pull 903 01:02:09,350 --> 01:02:10,530 the nose back up on it. 904 01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:13,560 He did some work for Hall's promotion. 905 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,920 He did independent promotion. 906 01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:20,340 And things were just getting worse and worse and worse financially. 907 01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:29,340 Ladies and gentlemen, it is now time to induct the American Dream Dusty Rose. 908 01:02:30,860 --> 01:02:35,780 Please welcome his two sons, Dustin Reynolds and Cody Rose. 909 01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:43,300 He didn't need a pitch, he didn't need a parlor, he didn't need a shop. All 910 01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:45,600 Dusty Rhodes needed was a mic. 911 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,420 And one thing that he passed to myself, my brother, and my family is that 912 01:02:50,420 --> 01:02:54,740 nothing or nobody is bigger than this business. 913 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:02,260 I do remember Cody at the Hall of Fame and realizing right then and there that 914 01:03:02,260 --> 01:03:03,300 we had a future superstar. 915 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,300 Stay away from my dad. 916 01:03:05,620 --> 01:03:08,460 You got a feisty one here. What's the matter, dream? You can't stick up for 917 01:03:08,460 --> 01:03:13,600 yourself? Even back then, you could see that he had the Rhodes family magic. 918 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,260 You know, there is this respect factor for this lineage. 919 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:24,520 At that point, I was not ready for the mantle of responsibility that comes with 920 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,680 being a member of this family. 921 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,560 But he knew I was going to make it on the level that... 922 01:03:32,940 --> 01:03:34,080 He had made it on. 923 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:42,500 Too often than not, some of our old -timers, some of our Hall of Famers, 924 01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:46,680 get a bad rap for not necessarily being the best family men. And I am here to 925 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,280 tell you, that is a grave misunderstanding. 926 01:03:50,220 --> 01:03:53,460 And if there was a Hall of Fame for fathers, you could bet he would be in 927 01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:54,299 one as well. 928 01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:57,300 Our father, the American dream, Dusty Rhodes. 929 01:04:08,810 --> 01:04:13,510 When you go back and you look at our industry, you look at driving down the 930 01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:16,690 night after night, trying to make a town, getting $25. 931 01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:18,310 That's hard times. 932 01:04:20,110 --> 01:04:26,750 But it's our duty to make it good times for the fans that pay their money to see 933 01:04:26,750 --> 01:04:28,610 us perform each and every night. 934 01:04:35,630 --> 01:04:37,430 Wrestling industry is about people. 935 01:04:38,030 --> 01:04:40,010 Brought really high and then brought really low. 936 01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:46,750 In that regard, Dusty Rhodes' story is not exceptional, but that he was able to 937 01:04:46,750 --> 01:04:51,030 have another act after that, that was incredible. 938 01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:57,330 At the time, we were trying to find the next generation of talent, and we knew 939 01:04:57,330 --> 01:04:58,990 that Dusty could be very helpful with that. 940 01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:01,630 It was so surreal. 941 01:05:01,970 --> 01:05:04,450 Here's Dusty Rhodes interviewing with me. 942 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,400 Of course you should have a job here, Dusty. 943 01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:13,820 He was really excited to develop and train our talent, not only to be able to 944 01:05:13,820 --> 01:05:17,020 perform in the ring, but to be able to cut a good promo, to be able to tell a 945 01:05:17,020 --> 01:05:18,020 good story. 946 01:05:19,060 --> 01:05:23,200 Dusty's really the first person to ever talk to me about promos. There is an 947 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:29,860 escape, and I will find it, no matter what it takes. 948 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,920 We cultivated like a different side of my personality that I didn't know that I 949 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,920 had. 950 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,420 Dusty was always about being himself. 951 01:05:41,780 --> 01:05:45,120 He made me understand from the get -go that you're fine, you're perfect the way 952 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,120 you are. 953 01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:51,660 I didn't feel like I belonged, but Dusty loved his broken toys, as he called 954 01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:54,880 them, and really took the time to really nourish me. 955 01:05:55,540 --> 01:06:01,670 When you think of the great women's wrestlers who have changed the times, 956 01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:06,230 have to talk about the American dream, Dusty Rhodes, and his ability to mold 957 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:10,290 this generation of talent. A lot of people deserve credit for it without 958 01:06:10,290 --> 01:06:14,270 question, but Dusty Rhodes is one of the people who made that happen. 959 01:06:16,030 --> 01:06:19,910 He loved that job. 960 01:06:20,370 --> 01:06:22,590 He loved working with those kids. 961 01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:30,110 When he was coaching at NXT, him and my mom both seemed so much happier, so 962 01:06:30,110 --> 01:06:31,940 much... More settled. 963 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,220 Later in life, when I look at their relationship, she brought him to a place 964 01:06:38,220 --> 01:06:40,240 that I never thought he would ever be. 965 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,420 Just a deep appreciation for family. 966 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:49,920 And I think he saw an opportunity to right some wrongs. 967 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,540 What was important to me was the relationship that I had with him at that 968 01:06:54,540 --> 01:06:58,400 moment. He would call me every single day. 969 01:06:59,340 --> 01:07:05,460 He didn't like being an old man, but he really did like being a grandpa. 970 01:07:06,820 --> 01:07:10,620 Being grandparents, you just do all the fun stuff, which was kind of his lane 971 01:07:10,620 --> 01:07:14,140 anyway. Whatever you want, all the time, Christmas every day. 972 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,740 That was kind of his brand. 973 01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:25,120 He was a great man who circumnavigated through life and found his path and 974 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,000 his way and figured it out. 975 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,740 But no matter what, he still wanted to go out and conquer the world. 976 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:46,560 Having two sons you are proud of, two sons 977 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:51,700 that you love with all your heart is what's best for business. 978 01:07:55,240 --> 01:08:00,620 We recognize that we have this amazing opportunity to have Dusty and Cody and 979 01:08:00,620 --> 01:08:05,660 Dustin all in the ring, you know, at the same time and have a storyline that 980 01:08:05,660 --> 01:08:11,140 really did pit two families against one another. I mean, it doesn't get much 981 01:08:11,140 --> 01:08:12,320 more real than that. 982 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,880 To your glorious baby boy, the one who's always done everything absolutely 983 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,060 right. Or you can give this job to the son that you neglected all those years 984 01:08:25,060 --> 01:08:26,399 traveling on the road. 985 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:31,600 Stephanie, you can go straight to hell! 986 01:08:35,540 --> 01:08:40,040 I was worried about him. He was starting to look really frail. 987 01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:46,990 But he was excited to be in the ring with both his sons. 988 01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:49,210 It was a dream come true. 989 01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:53,430 There is no length I will not go to protect this family's future. 990 01:08:54,529 --> 01:08:57,370 And yeah, we're not the perfect family. 991 01:09:01,330 --> 01:09:07,450 Tonight, we fight for our lives. Tonight, we fight for our family. 992 01:09:12,590 --> 01:09:19,529 My dad didn't like being seen on camera when he got older because he didn't want 993 01:09:19,529 --> 01:09:21,229 to be remembered as a fat old man. 994 01:09:21,450 --> 01:09:22,710 He wanted to be young. 995 01:09:24,270 --> 01:09:31,170 It was the first wrestling moment I'd 996 01:09:31,170 --> 01:09:36,090 had in years where I was like, this is great. This is so good. It was magic. 997 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,640 It was crazy, crazy loud. 998 01:09:43,859 --> 01:09:47,319 The people were all about it, and the match was fire, man. 999 01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:56,120 Me and Dustin are in there trying to have the five -star classic, and it is. 1000 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,200 can feel the tension. You knew it was special. 1001 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:05,680 But the crowd literally comes up off their feet when he threw his hat at 1002 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:06,720 Dean Ambrose. 1003 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,560 He did what he does best. 1004 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,320 He drew people in and made them feel. And he's the best at that. 1005 01:10:58,730 --> 01:11:01,670 I played it back in my head, and I wasn't feeling really well. I was 1006 01:11:01,670 --> 01:11:03,490 with some issues, fighting them off. 1007 01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:05,710 But, my God, it was just amazing. 1008 01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:11,630 It's something that I will never forget. 1009 01:11:11,950 --> 01:11:14,890 It was a very huge moment. 1010 01:11:16,930 --> 01:11:23,790 It was like watching this great performer have one last stand, 1011 01:11:23,950 --> 01:11:24,950 you know? 1012 01:11:25,210 --> 01:11:27,250 One last moment. 1013 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,500 That was the one and only time the roads were a hole. 1014 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,020 And I didn't know that that was it. 1015 01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:44,300 He loved this bike. 1016 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,760 He definitely did. 1017 01:11:46,420 --> 01:11:48,500 Yeah. Oh, look, we have some friends today. 1018 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:51,080 Always the Longhorns. 1019 01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:54,880 I never told you this story, but he got me a cattle chart. 1020 01:11:55,420 --> 01:11:59,340 And I studied it. It was probably this big, and it had every charlay. It had 1021 01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:01,200 whole skins. Oh, my gosh, I think I remember that. 1022 01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:04,800 And I had to learn every breed of cattle. Oh, my gosh. 1023 01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:10,760 And he tested me on it constantly. I think secretly he wanted me to be like 1024 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:11,760 bull riders. 1025 01:12:12,460 --> 01:12:13,460 Yes. 1026 01:12:15,020 --> 01:12:16,180 I miss him, honey. 1027 01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:17,459 I know, sweetie. 1028 01:12:17,460 --> 01:12:18,460 I know. 1029 01:12:22,830 --> 01:12:27,010 I go to this event in New York, and everyone's there. 1030 01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:37,270 And when I seen Dusty, I couldn't believe it. Probably lost 60, 70 1031 01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:39,830 pounds at that time from what I knew him as. 1032 01:12:40,110 --> 01:12:42,570 Something was going on, but he never told me what it was. 1033 01:12:43,610 --> 01:12:49,970 He was having these mysterious signs of illness, but he hated doctors. 1034 01:12:50,510 --> 01:12:55,290 And he felt like if he didn't go to the doctor, he wouldn't get sick. You know, 1035 01:12:55,310 --> 01:12:59,410 it's like he hadn't aged in forever, and then it was like all those years, 1036 01:12:59,570 --> 01:13:04,390 beating his body, just didn't catch up with him. 1037 01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:09,330 Tonight I winded and dined with kings and queens and slept an alley and dined 1038 01:13:09,330 --> 01:13:14,310 pork and meat. Dusty, thank you so much. To see him kind of fall apart in front 1039 01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:15,710 of us was hard. 1040 01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:19,430 I didn't know yet just how bad it was about to get. 1041 01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:27,810 One day he woke up really early in the morning. He said, something's wrong. 1042 01:13:28,090 --> 01:13:30,310 And he collapsed. He just collapsed. 1043 01:13:31,250 --> 01:13:32,590 I was frantic. 1044 01:13:35,150 --> 01:13:39,950 Doctor comes in and says that he has an infection. 1045 01:13:41,630 --> 01:13:45,230 And it was just eating his liver up. 1046 01:13:47,660 --> 01:13:50,760 I remember talking to the kids. I said, y 'all need to come. 1047 01:13:52,460 --> 01:13:57,800 You know, I got there, and it just all went downhill so fast. 1048 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:04,180 He called Dustin and I into the room, and he asked if he could sit up. 1049 01:14:05,140 --> 01:14:09,760 And I couldn't pull him up by myself, and my brother stood on the other side 1050 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:15,300 pulled him up. And as much as I'm hard on Dustin, there's not a better son. 1051 01:14:17,580 --> 01:14:19,200 I knew what that moment was. 1052 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,440 And he was awake. 1053 01:14:22,700 --> 01:14:26,420 So I said, are you okay, Dad? I love you. And, you know, I said all my things 1054 01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:31,700 that I needed to say to him, and he said them back, right? And I go get Kristen 1055 01:14:31,700 --> 01:14:37,080 at the airport, and I drive back, and he had already closed his eyes. 1056 01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:43,840 When I got to the hospital, he was already in that state of... 1057 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:49,700 He had already, I mean, I didn't get to speak to him. So, no, I didn't get to 1058 01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:51,180 make it there to have words with him. 1059 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,400 So, yeah. 1060 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,560 He died. 1061 01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:02,820 It was 30 hours from the time I called the ambulance until he 1062 01:15:02,820 --> 01:15:04,220 died. It was awful. 1063 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:05,600 It was just awful. 1064 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,940 This week, this industry lost a legend. 1065 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,720 The American dream, Dusty Rhodes. 1066 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,720 He gave everything he had. 1067 01:15:20,060 --> 01:15:21,360 It was his passion. 1068 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,720 To everybody on this stage, we lost family. 1069 01:15:53,169 --> 01:15:57,370 He hated funerals. 1070 01:15:58,730 --> 01:16:02,070 But I do think he would have been touched by all the people that came. 1071 01:16:03,250 --> 01:16:09,370 You know, these giants that you grew up with and you haven't seen them in so 1072 01:16:09,370 --> 01:16:11,110 long, and they're all there. 1073 01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:18,710 I've always been impressed with how revered he was, even from the old days. 1074 01:16:20,110 --> 01:16:24,030 I would go to events and I would just watch wrestlers and ask him for his 1075 01:16:24,030 --> 01:16:25,030 advice. 1076 01:16:25,810 --> 01:16:27,410 Internalize every word. 1077 01:16:31,150 --> 01:16:32,470 I miss him terribly. 1078 01:16:34,370 --> 01:16:36,430 But I know he is not in pain now. 1079 01:16:37,470 --> 01:16:41,030 And now I guarantee it, he is getting funky like a monkey with the angels in 1080 01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:42,030 heaven. 1081 01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:48,390 It's professional identity. It claims so much of... 1082 01:16:48,940 --> 01:16:51,260 who we think he is, but no. 1083 01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:53,640 It's a minuscule part. 1084 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,640 He's a cowboy of the old republic. 1085 01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:03,880 He's a master orator who spit fire, but if you pose the question to him, fame 1086 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:08,100 or family is always family. 1087 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:18,080 I was there at the end, and the last thing he said, 1088 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,180 On this earth was my mom's name. 1089 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:29,460 And I'm glad they got that. 1090 01:17:33,620 --> 01:17:38,760 The important parts of our lives were not the wrestling or any of that. We had 1091 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:43,200 family. We had a life. And Dusty gave us a good life. 1092 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,600 Come on, baby. 1093 01:17:48,910 --> 01:17:51,270 God, you just sounded like Dad when you said that. 1094 01:17:52,990 --> 01:17:54,190 I love this. 1095 01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:58,170 There's a special place out there where he visited. 1096 01:17:58,530 --> 01:18:01,890 It's just a field with a lot of longhorns. 1097 01:18:02,410 --> 01:18:08,270 And we thought it would be the perfect place to lay his ashes. 1098 01:18:09,730 --> 01:18:13,210 What happened to the little cross that was here? It was right there. We had to 1099 01:18:13,210 --> 01:18:14,210 hang it up high. 1100 01:18:14,330 --> 01:18:15,430 Oh, yeah. 1101 01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:17,630 I'm good. 1102 01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:25,370 I, of all the siblings, spent the least amount of time with my dad. And when you 1103 01:18:25,370 --> 01:18:30,070 don't get that closure and when you don't get that time, it's not easy. 1104 01:18:31,450 --> 01:18:35,130 But there was no question in my mind that I loved my father and that my 1105 01:18:35,130 --> 01:18:35,929 loved me. 1106 01:18:35,930 --> 01:18:38,490 He knew. He knew. He knew. 1107 01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:43,150 We had differences, but I always loved him. 1108 01:18:43,390 --> 01:18:49,900 It is very important to me that we... as a family, come together and uphold 1109 01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:51,340 our father's legacy. 1110 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,600 Because it means something to this world. It does. 1111 01:19:00,180 --> 01:19:02,500 Just one mystery remains. 1112 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:08,860 Who will stand across the WrestleMania ring from Seth freaking Rollins? We know 1113 01:19:08,860 --> 01:19:09,739 it's an opponent. 1114 01:19:09,740 --> 01:19:10,840 My dad. 1115 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,060 It's more difficult because he won't see it. 1116 01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:18,010 But... His thumbprint is all over. 1117 01:19:18,910 --> 01:19:20,110 Who's it going to be? 1118 01:19:26,050 --> 01:19:28,230 My dad taught me so much. 1119 01:19:28,510 --> 01:19:33,650 And at this stage in my life, 53 years old, it is all about giving back. 1120 01:19:34,150 --> 01:19:35,150 What's up, kids? 1121 01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:40,470 And I'm proud to teach the future superstars. 1122 01:19:54,730 --> 01:19:58,030 Son of a blumber is grinning from ear to ear. 1123 01:19:58,450 --> 01:20:00,270 I had the best education in wrestling. 1124 01:20:00,890 --> 01:20:04,770 I can confidently say it's because I was Dustin's son. 1125 01:20:07,170 --> 01:20:13,110 When I see a change in them and they get it for the first time and they see it 1126 01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:14,190 on their face, that's a payoff. 1127 01:20:15,130 --> 01:20:16,250 It's a payoff for me. 1128 01:20:18,350 --> 01:20:20,310 He would love that. 1129 01:20:20,650 --> 01:20:22,990 He would be so proud. I know he would. 1130 01:20:34,970 --> 01:20:37,750 I, in this moment, feel really connected to my dad. 1131 01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:41,110 That, I know he's there. 1132 01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:53,110 This is a great one, too. 1133 01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:54,510 It's that face. 1134 01:20:54,610 --> 01:20:55,610 It's rubbing right there. 1135 01:20:57,390 --> 01:21:00,290 Look at the stirrups. He was trying to prove to his dad. 1136 01:21:00,950 --> 01:21:02,250 No, wait, what's this story? 1137 01:21:02,830 --> 01:21:06,670 Big Virgil cut him from Little League? The story is that his dad cut him from 1138 01:21:06,670 --> 01:21:10,510 his own team. I don't believe that. The reality is, I think. Maybe benched him. 1139 01:21:10,610 --> 01:21:13,250 Maybe benched him, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you've got to put your best hitters in. 1140 01:21:13,370 --> 01:21:16,390 Always a little bit of drama. I've seen this one. That was your coach. Yeah, 1141 01:21:16,430 --> 01:21:20,670 this was my coach, yep. So how was that with dad coaching you? Great motivator. 1142 01:21:20,690 --> 01:21:22,710 But motivator, sure. 1143 01:21:23,010 --> 01:21:26,890 However, his defensive scheme was genuinely very good. 1144 01:21:27,190 --> 01:21:30,290 So he had that second defense with all the really overweight kids. 1145 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,060 The Jumbo World Order. 1146 01:21:32,580 --> 01:21:34,880 And he made them their own shirts. 1147 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,240 That one is definitely one of my favorites. 1148 01:21:38,540 --> 01:21:41,820 Well, I know we need to pick one. For the foundation. 1149 01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:43,100 Do we need to pick one? 1150 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,380 As we do the website. 1151 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:45,579 I like the Little League film. 1152 01:21:45,580 --> 01:21:46,580 I mean, I like that one. 1153 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:47,980 Dusty Rhodes Foundation. 1154 01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:51,400 Something that my mom started. 1155 01:21:51,700 --> 01:21:56,640 And it's perfect because one of the things that encapsulated Dusty was youth 1156 01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:01,760 sports. We've already given some money away to a baseball program in North 1157 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:07,520 Carolina, which is an underserved community, and we want to continue to 1158 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,800 with them. But we want to do all the places that Dad lived and hopefully 1159 01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:17,760 I mean, and it all stems back to here, in here. It's what he didn't have, what 1160 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,760 he wanted. 1161 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,740 The rules are everyone needs to be involved. 1162 01:22:23,140 --> 01:22:24,360 We'll all do it together. 1163 01:22:26,610 --> 01:22:32,630 Maybe his last wish, in a way, that everyone get along and everyone carry 1164 01:22:32,630 --> 01:22:33,630 legacy forward. 1165 01:22:40,090 --> 01:22:43,230 When I was a kid, they one day said, you're going to be the American dream. 1166 01:22:43,390 --> 01:22:47,070 You're going to field build, and there's going to be millions come to see the 1167 01:22:47,070 --> 01:22:50,030 American dream, the greatest sports attraction in the world today. And 1168 01:22:50,030 --> 01:22:51,030 true, and you know it's true. 1169 01:22:51,410 --> 01:22:54,790 I am number one at what I do, and it's going to be a good while. 1170 01:22:55,390 --> 01:22:57,990 A long time that I'm going to stay number one. 1171 01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:08,790 From Austin, Texas, weighing 280 pounds, Dirty Dusty Rose. 1172 01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:15,970 The fact that Dusty Rose is still influential says something about his 1173 01:23:15,970 --> 01:23:16,970 resonance. 1174 01:23:17,550 --> 01:23:22,370 As long as people are struggling, they will look to the American dream, Dusty 1175 01:23:22,370 --> 01:23:23,370 Rose. 1176 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,260 Dusty Rhodes did it better than all of us before us. 1177 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,020 When I went down, grew chin up, the finger went up. 1178 01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:43,160 It's Dusty Rhodes all day long, brother. 1179 01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:46,700 When I was nine years old, I saw him do it. I stole it then. 1180 01:23:47,260 --> 01:23:49,180 I used it for 30 years in the ring. 1181 01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:53,760 I learned a lot about having fun. 1182 01:23:54,270 --> 01:23:55,270 From Dusty Rhodes. 1183 01:23:56,350 --> 01:23:59,350 You know what? You can kiss if you don't like what I'm saying. 1184 01:24:02,210 --> 01:24:04,870 Dusty had a way with people. Dusty had a way with creating. 1185 01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:10,550 Dusty had a way of talking to you that would kick you off guard, but also teach 1186 01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:11,550 you a lesson. 1187 01:24:11,570 --> 01:24:15,610 That's hard time. 1188 01:24:20,590 --> 01:24:21,670 That's hard time. 1189 01:24:22,290 --> 01:24:23,450 Raise the wall time. 1190 01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:26,300 We sold out everywhere. 1191 01:24:27,460 --> 01:24:31,380 He had a lot of respect for a lot of people and deserved it. 1192 01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:35,160 The greatest, most attractive in the world today. 1193 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:40,620 The little plumber son who come out of the ditch and became so sweet. 1194 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:47,800 When you measure the whole work, I don't think there'll ever be anybody to 1195 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,920 even come close to what he accomplished. 1196 01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:55,070 Do I think I have lived the American dream is the question. 1197 01:24:55,550 --> 01:24:56,710 I would say I have. 1198 01:24:59,970 --> 01:25:02,030 How do you demand not to be remembered? 1199 01:25:03,130 --> 01:25:04,570 In the end, a good father. 1200 01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:10,210 That's the most important thing to me, is a good husband and a good father, and 1201 01:25:10,210 --> 01:25:11,210 that's the way I feel. 1202 01:25:13,330 --> 01:25:14,330 Peace out. 108114

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.