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Got the slow motion yet? No, we're going
to... One second.
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All right.
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My
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experience
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is really difficult to put in words
because it's so far from...
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The norm, and it's so far from any other
female that I've met.
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It was just so totally unaccepted at
that time. I got shot down every time I
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tried to do something. It was always two
steps forward, one step back.
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I knew in my heart that I was going to
end up doing something because that, I
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felt, has always been my destiny. I
would have to do that or I'd be a very
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unhappy person.
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But I knew that I was going up against a
lot.
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She was living, breathing Wonder Woman.
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Just unbelievable sight to see. Look at
the size of this woman.
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She was the ninth wonder of the world.
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She was a true superstar.
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Where did she come from anyway? The
glass you hear break when Austin's music
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hit, that was the ceiling that China
busted through.
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China, perhaps the most physically
talented woman ever here. You know, I
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want to just rise to the top of what the
women are doing. That's not why I
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joined the business.
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She knew how to stand
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there and let you drink it in.
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When she came out and she was as big as
the dude and could beat the dude up,
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like, holy mackerel, this is a whole new
thing. We haven't seen this before.
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Women can do it.
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What else?
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She did things in the ring that females
had never done.
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And it took her to another level.
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First female Intercontinental Champion,
first King of the Ring female
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participant, first female participant
entrant into the WWE Royal Rumble.
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I feel that it's time for a new breed of
female pro wrestler.
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You don't slow that train down. You let
that train pull into the station and
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blow people's minds.
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She was a sought -after sex symbol,
someone you'd make a movie about.
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She is the ninth wonder of the world. To
readers of Playboy, she is the November
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cover girl.
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From the time when a little girl wanted
to be the famous larger -than -life
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woman. She shot up to fame like a meteor
that just kind of disappears,
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and it's gone.
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I want to be...
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top of what I'm doing, and even though I
feel like I have the ability to do
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that, I can't. The downward spiral was
so dramatic that that's what people
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remember.
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Towards the end, drug use sort of
escalated.
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She tried to drink away that hurt, and
she tried to snort away that hurt, and
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she tried to smoke away that hurt.
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It's one thing to get to the top of the
mountain. It's another thing altogether
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to stay there, and it is lonely at the
top.
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I'm Tyna.
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I'm a champion.
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One of the greatest days I ever had was
when Johnny was born.
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I remember her being delivered very
quickly. I was kind of hoping maybe she
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would be a Christmas baby, but as usual,
she had to do things a different way.
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Right out of the gate, she was a very
happy baby.
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Always had a smile on her face. She was
giggly.
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She was just so stinking cute. She
really was.
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She was a cute baby.
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She and Sonny and Kathy, when they were
all... They would play a lot together.
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At an early age, you could tell that
Joni was really enjoying being in the
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spotlight, always wanting to entertain
people.
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Joni was always a great self -motivator,
but if there was an outside factor that
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was motivating her, it was to impress
her big sister.
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We used to play charades an awful lot,
and my grandparents were a really good
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audience, and she fed into that.
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She put on these puppet shows, and she'd
have the little puppets, and she'd do
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this, and she'd do that, and she'd be
coming out the side and smiling and
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blah, blah, and she'd have everybody in
stitches.
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So we moved an awful lot as children.
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I can't even tell you how many
apartments we moved around in the city
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was always usually a financial struggle
going on of some sort.
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Most of her memories from childhood were
negative. Her family struggled
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financially. They were on welfare.
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They bounced around from one low -rent
apartment to the next. They depended on
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food stamps a lot of times.
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There's one thing to be struggling with,
not being able to buy the kids clothes,
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but there's another thing about the
tension and the fear and the horrible
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feeling that you feel all the time.
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When you're put in those types of
circumstances, that you can't hide.
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Whenever Joni would talk about her life
before she found pro wrestling, it was
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always one person, and that was Kathy.
Not only did they have that sisterhood
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bond, Kathy was very motherly in a lot
of ways, looking after her and being a
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protector.
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I remember that my father was a heavy...
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He was an alcoholic.
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He would go in the hospital and going to
visit him and his eyeballs were yellow
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from his liver failure.
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I remember a time that he chased my mom
around with a butcher knife.
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He picked up this, it was a butcher
knife, and he started chasing me with
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And the cops came.
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It was terrible. And you've got three
little kids, you know, and they're
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screaming and, oh, those are...
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Bad days.
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It was not good.
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It was really scary for little kids.
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There was a lot going on at home, which
didn't allow us to really feel secure
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there because my brother left home at
16.
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Luckily, I was going into college, so I
was out of there.
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And I think Joni, unfortunately, was
sort of abandoned by Sonny and I, and
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was stuck there.
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Eventually China's birth parents
divorced, and by the time she was 16,
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was on her third husband.
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If I did ever come home from college or
we talked, there was just a great sense
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of unhappiness. There was a lot of
arguing going on. They were accusing her
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doing drugs or hanging out with bad
people.
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That's when I found what I thought was
marijuana.
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There was a drug rehab building just
down the street from us.
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And so I told her, I said, come on,
we're going to go.
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And we went in, and they wanted to take
a sample of her urine. So they sent me
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into the bathroom with her, and she went
in the cup and threw it at me.
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Just threw it at me. It was very, what's
the right word, defiant.
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Like, all right, take that.
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She caught her with some marijuana and
just basically picked her out.
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Give me a break.
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I mean, what kid doesn't smoke pot,
right?
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I just don't like the way that whole
thing was handled.
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I'll go live with my father.
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Well, at that time I couldn't stop her.
When her mother kicked her out of the
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house at age 16, she never saw China
again.
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One thing that really saved China was
when she was in high school.
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She became interested in lifting
weights, and she kind of found a safe
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the gym. Every day after school, she
would pretty much race to the gym and
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there until it closed.
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I think she felt very comfortable in the
gym. It was a place where she could go.
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She felt safe. She felt that she wasn't
being judged on her appearance.
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based on other places where maybe people
would say she's too jacked or she looks
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weird, she's trying to look like a guy
or, you know, whatever.
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I think being at the gym was really sort
of her safe place.
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When Joni left home, she moved in with
my father, Joe Lauer, and I think he
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encouraged her to go be her best self.
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There was really not a lot of control
going on in that house. He sort of said,
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go do whatever you want to do.
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Two years later, she was in college.
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She attended the University of Tampa.
She graduated from there in 1991, and
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definitely was trying to make something
of herself.
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But at the same time, once she
graduated, she still didn't quite know
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wanted to do. She was kind of drifting
along in life, trying to find her place.
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She was working all sorts of odd jobs.
She tried selling cars at one point. She
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went and joined the Peace Corps.
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She was doing singing telegrams. She was
a cocktail waitress at a strip club
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called Melon.
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I don't know exactly what she did. She
told me, as her sister, that she was the
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hostess. And I took her at face value on
that.
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And then she got a job. She was hired to
work as an airline attendant.
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She called me up one night and said,
Kathy, I got my first gig. I'm flying
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of Miami tonight.
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She drove to Miami, didn't even get out
of the Keys, and she was hit head on.
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She landed in the hospital.
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You know, her car was ruined.
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Basically, her job was now down the
toilet.
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And I said to her, Joni, that's enough.
Come to New Hampshire. I'll get you a
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job. We'll live together.
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Let's just have you start over again
here, and let's do it together as
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The childhood China experience really
could have depleted a lot of people. It
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could have really set a lot of people
back, but I think she was determined not
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to let that get the best of her. I mean,
she stared adversity in the face, and
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she could have floundered, but instead
she flirted.
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Met Joni 25 years ago. It was a typical
day of work. A good close friend of mine
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was the manager of a gym in New
Hampshire.
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He gave me a call and said, hey, I got
one of my aerobics instructors that
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help. She wants to do her first fitness
show.
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She comes around the corner and she had
this big, huge smile, this red hair,
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full of energy.
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I walked away from that interview that
day and I couldn't stop thinking about
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her. And I know that was very
unprofessional of me, but I ended up
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few days later and I said, listen, I
have your plan.
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I'm very excited for you. We're
definitely going to do really well in
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competition.
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But would you like to go to the movie
with me?
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And then it blossomed into a
relationship.
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And their relationship really was
centered around fitness, physique,
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out.
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diet, their food.
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I mean, it was all -encompassing in
their lives, and they both loved it.
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As the relationship evolved on a
romantic standpoint, on a preparation
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just kept going at it harder and better
and harder and better. And she was all
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in.
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I'm 5 '9". I'm 170 pounds.
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And this is what I have to offer.
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We would go to the gym.
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Whatever idea I had in my head that
week, I would try it on her, and it just
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kept working and working and working.
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She responded like that.
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The numbers that she was putting up in
the weight room were just insane.
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She could bench press 315 pounds, four
reps.
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She was instantly getting stronger,
instantly growing.
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Squatting 450 pounds.
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10 to 12 reps.
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Hard to fap for a female.
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People in the gym didn't know what they
were looking at. They were doing double
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takes. Where did this girl come from?
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In retrospect, she really was ahead of
her time because when I remember the two
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of us going to the gym, there were no
jacked women in there. It wasn't a
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If we would go out to a public place
like the mall or we'd go out to eat,
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people's heads turned. People noticed
she was different. She loved that.
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For another time, Joni said, let's go to
Boston. We're going to go to a
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wrestling match.
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And she said, you and I are going to
dress up, and we're just going to go,
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we're going to see what people say about
us.
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We had our costumes on, and we went in.
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were looking at us thinking, should I
know who these girls are?
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And people were turning away from the
ring and pointing at these girls in the
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stands because their biceps were
showing, they looked jacked up.
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Anybody that was sitting near us was
watching us going, are they going to do
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something?
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Joni loved it. She was just soaking it
up. And Joni would say, isn't this
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awesome? People are looking at us.
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Someone said to us, you guys really
should.
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Think about being tag team wrestlers.
You know, we kind of laughed it off at
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time. And on the way home, we were
talking about it, and Joni said, you
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what, there might be something to that,
Kathy.
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And I said, hell no, I'm not in.
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And she said, okay, well, I'm going to
do it. And at the time, I kind of
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laughed, and I'm like, sure.
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Okay, go ahead.
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And, boy, did she prove me wrong.
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Chyna, within days, had looked up Killer
Kowalski.
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Professional wrestling is the most
brutal sport of all, or is it? Believe
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not, there's a secret school for pro
wrestlers, and we got inside.
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To learn the secrets of wrestling, you
need to go to a place like this, Killer
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Kowalski School of Professional
Wrestling.
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He had the reputation of being tough,
hard -nosed, physical -type guy.
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Killer Kowalski learned his secrets the
hard way, in the ring.
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He earned his name Killer by knocking an
opponent's ear off, then laughing at
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him. There was no nonsense in any of his
matches. It was just go in there and
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grab a hold and grind your opponent down
to the ground. Now, Killer imparts his
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secrets to a willing audience of Hulk
Hogan wannabes. He couldn't stop staring
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at Joni. He got up, walked right up to
it.
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And he says, can I help you?
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And Joanie's like, well, you know, we
heard about your school, and we want to
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come in and see what it's all about. And
he goes, all right.
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So then he jumps in the ring, and he
starts doing this claw thing.
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He goes, this is what you do. And he,
like, puts the claw on some guy, and
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he body slams him.
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And Joanie was just shaking her head.
She didn't know what to make of it.
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She approached him and said, well, what
do I have to do? I'd like to do this.
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He goes, all right, $2 ,000.
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When we graduate from this school, we
are professionals.
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Come in here as novices, absolute
amateurs, and when they get through,
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mean.
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You know, sign the waiver.
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Pay the money. Sign the waiver. Pay the
money.
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And she was like, I don't have that kind
of money on me.
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I said, Joni, please, please do this.
This will be the greatest thing you ever
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do.
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And he said, OK, I think you're legit. I
think you really want to do this. He
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said, but I want you to know I'm not
going to give you any preferential
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treatment.
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You're going to go into the ring. You're
going to wrestle the guys.
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They're going to throw you around.
You're going to throw them around.
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And it's going to hurt.
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When guys get in the ring with a female,
there's a little bit of hesitation of
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what are you going to do? How hard are
you going to swing?
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What if you miss?
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And you catch one or two potatoes from
Joni.
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and you realize she's tough enough and
she can handle it.
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Come here.
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You see that?
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Stay at home.
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Do the laundry.
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Make some meat, huh? She used to come
home with all sorts of bruises, black
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blue everywhere.
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I can manhandle any guy in here.
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In a sadistic sort of way, I think she
thrived on that, not backing down.
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Right here. Get a close -up of that. I
want everybody to see that.
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I got caught by the best.
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Now I've wrestled men, I've wrestled
women, okay? And I beat them
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all. Word started getting around that
this girl is crazy.
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Anybody else that steps in that ring is
going to do the same thing because I'm
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going to leave them behind me like the
trash I left out yesterday morning.
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Joni quit her job and she chased
wrestling.
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She started collecting all the video
footage.
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pictures. She made her own portfolio.
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She spent hours upon hours on a VHS
machine with a camcorder making her own
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promotional video.
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I spent a lot of hours in the gym
bodybuilding and now I'm putting that
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bodybuilding to use in the wrestling
ring.
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Joni right away started making sure she
looked television ready and
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presented herself as a professional
before she got to that level.
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And if you're hungry enough and you keep
scratching for that food, you get it.
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Like pretty much everybody hanging
around the wrestling business at that
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you know, Joni's goal was very simple.
She wanted to be in WWE.
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She ended up getting in a car with
promotional tape, portfolio, everything,
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driving down in Massachusetts.
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We were coming back from a show.
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and we were staying in a hotel at the
Springfield Airport, Massachusetts.
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One of the agents that I respected most
was in there talking to her, and Sean
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and I see the sides of her, and we're
like, holy... 200 -pound, just jacked
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woman. I mean, just had such a stunning
presence.
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I'll be honest, that was her sales
pitch.
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So those guys had an eye for talent back
then, and when they looked at Joni,
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They saw talent.
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The more opponents that I can meet, the
better I'm going to be. And that's what
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my goal is, to be the best.
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We had all seen beautiful women, as
ballets, as seconds, but no one had ever
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seen the likes of Joanie.
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I'm not sure who that was supposed to
hurt.
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All these girls can really take it. Here
she comes running right over the road.
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You know, before China came on the
scene, female wrestling was like the
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match. And they called that the match
that they put on the card when nothing
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really going on, when people would go to
the bathroom or go buy popcorn.
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That's shampoo in the eyes.
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Back then, it was, you know, stupid,
silly, paddle on the pole match, bra and
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panties match, hard and feathered match.
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I mean, like, stupid.
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China came through and busted that glass
ceiling and kind of said, you ain't
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putting me in a bad light.
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I'll take your light and shove it.
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Shawn Michaels and Triple H, they were
at the top of the pecking order at that
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time in the WWE.
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So for them to put themselves on the
line for Joni, she had to produce.
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No one's ever done that in the business
before. Big jacked up female heater. I
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know both of us at the same time were
thinking like, ooh, female bodyguard.
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We brought it to Vince and he hated it.
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Oh, come on. No one's going to buy that.
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Nobody's going to want to sell for a
girl.
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You guys are morons.
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This was something we both really
believed in. We just knew it would work.
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if she's a screw -up, if she's a ped
case, it's on you. It's your fault.
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You can have all the credentials in the
world if you're a football player, and
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they hand you the ball, you better not
fumble.
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Well, Joni didn't fumble.
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Who the hell's that?
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Who is that in the world? Is that a
woman?
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She was an anonymous figure first coming
and grabbing Marlena from the crowd and
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just this...
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physical specimen of a woman, unlike
anything I'd ever seen before.
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I vividly remember the first time I saw
Joni. I was actually in the audience,
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kind of in disguise.
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And we saw Joni come out of the crowd
and shake Terry Runnels like a rag doll.
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She shook the living dog caca out of me.
The smaller I was, the larger
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Joni was, the more amazing it looked.
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I remember telling her, don't go easy. I
would much rather it hurt me tomorrow
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than it look like on live TV.
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The next morning, we were in the hotel,
and I went to turn, and I was like...
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It was like I had been...
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and some god -awful car crash.
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She arrived.
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Welcome to the party, girl. You are now
officially one of us.
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Talk about your psalms. Talk about John
316.
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Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass.
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If you smash...
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Everywhere I go somewhere today,
somebody will come up to me and talk
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Attitude Era.
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There was never anything like it to that
point, and there will never be anything
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like it in the future.
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WWE had traditionally been a pretty
conservative company, but by the late
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90s, the presentation had changed.
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Limits were being pushed.
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The Attitude Era pushed every envelope
across every line possible.
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But that was by design.
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WWE was going hard head -to -head
against WCW. And at that time, WCW was
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winning. They were stealing left and
right, taking our superstars. And WWE
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to come up with something special,
something unique.
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As WWE was becoming edgier, I think DX
was at the forefront of that.
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Hunter and Shawn are pretty much at the
top of this thing.
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That's how she was coming in.
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You'd see Hunter and Sean out there
acting like immature schoolboys that
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be sent to the principal. And then in
the back was Chyna.
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No nonsense, staring straight ahead at
the camera with her arms folded.
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She was the straight man that DX needed.
Like in comic terms, there's the
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straight man, right? Like we needed to
have somebody that was like the rudder
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for all of the other immaturity to kind
of bounce off of and bounce around.
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Show us what you're bringing to the
barbecue, girl.
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Before Joni even debuted in WWE, the
company wanted to come up with a name
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her, and they pitched a bunch of names
her way.
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Venus, Fallon, She -Ra, and she didn't
like any of those names.
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And then she remembered she had known a
stripper who called herself Chyna, and
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she described that Chyna as exotic and
intoxicating, and that was kind of what
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she was going for.
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If Joanie was at ringside, you're
watching her as much as you're watching
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match. In the beginning, all she had to
do was just stand there, and people were
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like, well, what's going on with that
person right there? What is that?
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When she would move, the crowd would
react because she never moved. When she
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stood there with her arms crossed and
those biceps and those delts.
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197 pounds.
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The woman has a 320 -pound mid -trap.
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She's got muscles in places I don't even
have places.
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That's how she got the name the ninth
wonder of the world.
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So, of course, Andre the Giant was the
eighth wonder of the world.
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I mean, he turned heads. He caused you
to drop your jaw and say,
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wow, I heard he was big, but I didn't
know he was that big.
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And when you saw China, you did the same
thing.
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China was dangerous.
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It wasn't throwing Miss Elizabeth in
front, who's, you know, delicate, and a
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chivalrous man would never touch Miss
Elizabeth.
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But, like, you throw Chyna in front,
there's a new dynamic, there's a little
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confusion. Oh, my God, this woman hit
me, and it feels like a man hitting me.
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I supposed to hit her back?
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In the formative years of Chyna with DX,
nobody laid a hand on her.
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Striking Joanie was off the table, so we
had to be creative.
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There's a concern always with your top
male wrestlers. Just from a presentation
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of a character, you don't want to
emasculate them. There's a way to do it
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the female star can be elevated, but the
male star doesn't have to be brought
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down a notch.
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A lot of the pitch was designed around
we would make sure that we would take
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care of those guys so that when she did
show offense or look to be beating up a
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man, so to speak, we would put them in a
vulnerable enough position.
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that it seemed plausible for her to be
able to do that.
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I
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remember
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one major star just flat out saying, no,
I'm not going to let a woman do that to
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me. He actually used a more colorful
language.
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And I kind of stepped up as soon as I
had the chance and said, let's... Let's
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something.
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Triple H reversed an Irish whip outside
on the floor, and Joni power
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slammed me into the stairs.
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And I believe that opened up a
discussion among my colleagues who
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Mick will do it, then I guess we can.
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The thing is that I get paid to not so
much to talk, but to...
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Kick guys in the nads tomorrow.
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At the end of the day, you want to make
the best impression you can with your
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time in the ring. And I think all of us
were well served by having Joni get
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involved in our matches. I loved it.
China's ring debut came as a bodyguard
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Hunter Hearst Helmsley. But now she's
one of the stars of the show.
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Most girls shouldn't be wrestling guys,
and most girls aren't China. And if you
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can find another woman like me, then
we'll talk about it.
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I don't think anything could have
prepared her for...
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The speed with which her career took
off, it was like the Millennium Falcon.
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They're driving through space, and Han
Solo hits the pedal, and all of a sudden
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they're in warp speed.
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Gosh, it was like my head's spinning,
getting ready to go on the road again
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tomorrow. So this has been a lot of work
and a lot of fun.
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She was overwhelmed and excited and
giddy. She couldn't believe it. She
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to just pinch herself.
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I can't believe I'm actually doing this.
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One of the things that a lot of fans
don't realize is the camaraderie that is
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inside a wrestling company like the WWE.
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She found some relationships in DX that
she hadn't had as a kid growing up.
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When Joni was traveling with the WWE
during the height of her fame, Joni
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often tell me that these were the people
that she could bond with very easily.
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I think the acceptance that Joni found
in the WWE dressing rooms meant a lot to
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her. It was very laid back. It's really
like you were at home with your family.
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It can sound like a cliche, but in this
case it was true. Joni was one of the
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boys. We really accepted her. We loved
her. We loved having her around.
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Like you could be in awe or enamored by
her physical appearance.
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But when you fell in love with Chyna was
when you got to know her. She was very
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motherly with me.
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You know, you're Chyna.
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You see this, but you meet her and you
just see this. You know what I mean? And
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it's just, you just want to hug her. You
were enamored by this body, but then
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she would giggle and laugh. And it was
just like she was this little girl.
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For a period of time, my daughter,
Noelle, who was four at the time,
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Joni to be her very best friend.
445
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:39,860
So I would be backstage a lot, and my
dad would go off and do his thing. So
446
00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:43,900
was always the one that would take care
of me, hang out with me.
447
00:31:44,260 --> 00:31:49,460
She would do my hair and my nails and
just hang out like two best friends.
448
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,320
And it was just adorable.
449
00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:56,420
This magnificent woman who was one of
the most popular people in WWE, one of
450
00:31:56,420 --> 00:32:01,380
most... recognizable faces in popular
culture at the time, is her best friend.
451
00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:04,280
I don't think people realize what it is
that we actually do.
452
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,500
The part that we're in the ring is not
really where the work is.
453
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:14,260
The work is traveling 250 days out of
the year, trying to keep your body in
454
00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:17,500
shape, trying to deal with life outside
the ring.
455
00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:18,900
That's a lot of work.
456
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:23,360
Joni and Paul were together all the time
because they were traveling on the
457
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,120
road. I think they had a lot in common
as friends, and it blossomed into a
458
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,120
relationship.
459
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:33,420
Eighty percent of our relationship
encompasses wrestling.
460
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,020
When it all happened, it happened fast.
461
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Me and her were in a serious
relationship.
462
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,480
She started going on the road with Paul.
463
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,520
She would go away for four or five days.
She would come home for a day or two.
464
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,020
She'd go away for ten days.
465
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:50,440
She'd be home for a day or two. And it
started ripping me apart.
466
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,200
So at some point, we had to have the sit
-down, and we just decided, okay,
467
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,420
that's it. We'll go our separate ways,
and if at some point 20 years down the
468
00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:02,920
road we can be friends again, we'll do
it.
469
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,560
Their relationship just kind of formed,
and I don't think any of us knew when
470
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,539
that happened.
471
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:14,540
I noticed they checked into one hotel
room, and I was like, oh, okay, well,
472
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,800
maybe they, because I didn't think they
were anything but workout partners and
473
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,800
friends.
474
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:23,310
It was just after a while, you sort of,
you know, see them quietly chatting with
475
00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:27,550
each other. It doesn't look like that's
a business conversation.
476
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:32,170
I asked Hunter, and Hunter finally said,
like, we get the same room every night,
477
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:35,910
dude. We've been going out for, you
know. And I was like, oh, my God, I
478
00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:36,910
even see that.
479
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:41,490
I remember the first time they came to
my house as a couple.
480
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:45,470
They stepped into the back door, and
they were like these two giants side by
481
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:48,550
side. They were larger than life, but
they were so happy together.
482
00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:54,910
I think that Hunter was the best friend
that she probably never had as a child
483
00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:55,910
growing up.
484
00:33:57,630 --> 00:34:02,850
You could tell. They worked out
together. They did everything together.
485
00:34:02,930 --> 00:34:04,210
like, held each other accountable.
486
00:34:10,510 --> 00:34:11,850
A little tiny, tiny bit.
487
00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:13,130
Look,
488
00:34:14,929 --> 00:34:18,190
we'd go to Denny's and I would get moons
over my hammy and they would get 12 egg
489
00:34:18,190 --> 00:34:22,409
whites and steamed so -and -so, you know
what I mean, and dry wheat toast.
490
00:34:22,690 --> 00:34:26,429
They just did everything together
exactly alike. It was almost like, how
491
00:34:26,429 --> 00:34:30,550
they ever have an argument? They both
agree that we should do chest and
492
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:31,550
on Tuesday.
493
00:34:33,449 --> 00:34:35,050
They're both muscleheads, for sure.
494
00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:37,199
very much into bodybuilding.
495
00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:41,900
I'd be on the recumbent cycle and I
would just watch them do each other's
496
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:46,980
and chalk up and... They
497
00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:52,920
worked out every day. They wrapped their
knees and squatted until they threw up
498
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,060
and said, if you don't throw up when
you're doing squats, you ain't doing it
499
00:34:56,060 --> 00:35:01,900
right. I've never met somebody that can
train as focused or...
500
00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:06,630
Hard as China does. He was very
respectful of Joni, very encouraging of
501
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:11,970
again, this is another man in her life
that accepted her just the way that she
502
00:35:11,970 --> 00:35:18,930
was. If it were not for Paul, she would
not have made it as easily in
503
00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:24,450
our industry because Paul marked her up
and really taught her what to do, what
504
00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:25,388
not to do.
505
00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:28,430
That is a gift that he gave her.
506
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:29,790
Attention!
507
00:35:31,810 --> 00:35:37,230
We are D -Generation X, and we will take
no prisoners.
508
00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:40,230
Who is the world in professional
wrestling?
509
00:35:40,590 --> 00:35:42,370
D -Generation X!
510
00:35:42,590 --> 00:35:46,010
Hold a minute. Wait a minute.
511
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:52,890
I remember Joni saying she was tired of
the guys always showing off their
512
00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:57,640
butt. Sean and Billy and Hunter all had
nice asses, so they would moon the
513
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,740
people. Like, I'm not mooning the
people. I got a big zit on my right
514
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,339
like, hair.
515
00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:06,740
Anyway. Did it ever occur to you guys
that people are sick and tired of
516
00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:10,960
at your asses every week? Everybody
wants to see our ass. What's your point?
517
00:36:19,340 --> 00:36:20,340
She's starting to...
518
00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:24,070
moon people now. And of course, clearly
she was in phenomenal shape.
519
00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:28,530
My daughter turned to me and she said,
why China's showing her peaches?
520
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:33,030
That was a father daughter talk that I
rather would not have had.
521
00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:37,350
It allowed the audience to see a whole
different side of her personality.
522
00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:42,070
And I think that's when she really
started to get over individually because
523
00:36:42,070 --> 00:36:45,050
there was so much there and they were
finally getting to see that.
524
00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:49,910
That was all by design, to go very slow,
so that in the long run, she was her
525
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:51,390
own brand, her own commodity.
526
00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:55,710
It's been real hard because I always
wanted to break away a little bit. Now
527
00:36:55,710 --> 00:37:00,650
there seems to be this discrepancy about
whether we should stay together or
528
00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:03,370
whether we should split.
529
00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:08,110
It broke my heart a little, personally,
when we split up. But in professional
530
00:37:08,110 --> 00:37:10,510
wrestling, you don't stay a team
forever.
531
00:37:11,890 --> 00:37:16,390
When DX splits and goes its own separate
way, China sort of does her own thing.
532
00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:19,230
It's extremely frustrating sometimes.
533
00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:23,550
I would have to stand outside the ring
while Hunter did this great stuff.
534
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:29,630
Every step I take, I'll say, okay, let's
try it, but it probably won't be that
535
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:34,010
good. And then I achieve it, and that
will allow me to move to the next level,
536
00:37:34,070 --> 00:37:35,470
the next step, do something else.
537
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:56,090
It's a marathon, not a sprint, to keep
your head above water in WWE and to
538
00:37:56,090 --> 00:37:58,770
really stand the test of time, which
Joni did.
539
00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:03,930
So I think it was really beneficial to
her that she was outside the ring
540
00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:08,250
destruction before we saw her actually
set foot in the ring as a competitor.
541
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:10,910
And when she did, she knocked everyone's
socks off.
542
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:22,720
From the very beginning, there were no
opponents from a female perspective on
543
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,760
her side. But once she started putting
together a string of matches, that's
544
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,020
her special athletic ability shined.
545
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:42,800
Power was at the forefront of
546
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,960
Joni's offense.
547
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:08,820
Ladies and gentlemen, it is now time for
the 1990s.
548
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,780
You know, one of the most groundbreaking
things that I can remember about Chyna
549
00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:22,440
was she was the first woman to enter the
WWE Royal Rumble.
550
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:28,740
The first woman ever to enter the Royal
Rumble, man. The roof went off in that
551
00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:29,740
place. It was crazy.
552
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:35,920
And the walk down that ring, it's just
all purposeful, not cracking a smile.
553
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,420
Her statement was, I'm going to go for
the biggest, strongest man in this ring,
554
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:42,460
and that is Mark Henry.
555
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,760
China gets in the ring, and she throws
Mark Henry, the world's strongest man,
556
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,000
out of the ring.
557
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,880
And so it kind of kept being these
series of tests.
558
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,320
Can China hang with all these guys?
559
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,360
255 pounds!
560
00:39:58,980 --> 00:39:59,980
It's over!
561
00:40:05,450 --> 00:40:08,930
It's almost like everybody would set me
up to fail, but then when I didn't,
562
00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:10,930
they'd be surprised and then want more
of it.
563
00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:17,650
You know, when I was a little girl, I
only wanted to be a princess.
564
00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:21,890
But now I'm all grown up, and tonight,
I'm going to be a queen.
565
00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:25,270
King of the Ring. That's the first woman
ever to be in the King of the Ring
566
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:31,030
tournament, and I wrestled her. Road
Dogg, you got big brass balls to step in
567
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:32,030
the ring with me.
568
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,720
It was about the spectacle of it, like
it's a big muscular woman versus this
569
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:41,720
white trash dude.
570
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:51,200
She had hit me in a low blow several
times in the build up to this.
571
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:55,960
So that was the infamous, I came
prepared.
572
00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:03,780
And as I had my back turned, she slipped
in and hit me in the groin again. And I
573
00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:05,100
pulled out the metal cup.
574
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:14,320
We had a competitive match.
575
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,600
And honestly, if a creative decision was
made for her to beat me, she could have
576
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,500
beat me all day long. And people
wouldn't have batted an eye because
577
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,500
believable she was.
578
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,600
I mean, she got to the point where she
was.
579
00:41:29,050 --> 00:41:35,830
a believable contender for a title. And
there came a time when the evolution of
580
00:41:35,830 --> 00:41:37,070
China had to happen.
581
00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:38,470
Who's the heel?
582
00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:42,130
Jeff Jarrett is scheduled to come out
here. Well, Jeff Jarrett is scheduled to
583
00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:42,888
meet China.
584
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:44,390
Double J stepped up to the plate.
585
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:48,330
My name is Jeff Jarrett, and I'm a man's
man.
586
00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:53,310
My side of the fence, the way I was
handling the females and the women was
587
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:55,650
have their place, barefoot and pregnant
in the kitchen.
588
00:41:56,270 --> 00:42:00,770
Oh, Jeff Jarrett took that ball and ran
with it. He's like, oh, you want me to
589
00:42:00,770 --> 00:42:02,430
be a jerk? Watch this.
590
00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:05,950
Women are only good for three things.
591
00:42:06,670 --> 00:42:10,050
Cooking, cleaning, and making babies.
592
00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:11,610
Oh, it was excellent.
593
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:15,630
All these antiquated stereotypes, like
this is trash. This is absolutely
594
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:20,190
degrading to these ladies. Oh, come on
now. It's supposed to make you mad.
595
00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:25,490
You need a good villain to push all
those buttons. And it made China the
596
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:35,790
What took it
597
00:42:35,790 --> 00:42:40,490
to another level was I was the reigning
Intercontinental Champion.
598
00:42:40,750 --> 00:42:44,410
You're going to see who's wearing the
pants, and then you're going to see
599
00:42:44,410 --> 00:42:46,310
going to be wearing your
Intercontinental title.
600
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,920
There was nothing like the build -up to
that Intercontinental title match.
601
00:42:50,060 --> 00:42:55,300
You're going to get your rematch all
right, but it's going to be the good
602
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:56,940
housekeeping way.
603
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:02,960
And we just knew that he was going to
get what he deserved, and he did.
604
00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:08,520
A first -ever good housekeeping matchup,
King. This was going to be history
605
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,520
-making.
606
00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:15,360
There was that excitement, but I could
see there was nerves.
607
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,240
I think she was having some doubts. Am I
going to be able to live up to these
608
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,240
expectations?
609
00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:25,220
What is that? Oh, my goodness.
610
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,440
You've been crowned with a seat from the
throne. Joni kind of took up the torch
611
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,740
for all of womanhood in that moment.
612
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,100
They literally hit each other with
everything, including the kitchen sink.
613
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:43,300
And I just remember the plethora of
weapons being used in very unique ways.
614
00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:53,460
You know, somehow the word had gotten
out to the fans that it was his last
615
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:54,460
in the WWE.
616
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,080
So, naturally, everybody's expecting,
well, Jeff's going to lose.
617
00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:01,660
China's going to become the first female
intercontinental champion.
618
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,680
But then comes the swerve.
619
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,500
Boom! He hits China with the belt. And
to everybody's shock and amazement, one,
620
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,940
two, three, Jeff wins. I'll do it!
621
00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:22,390
The place, you could have heard a pin
drop. The crowd was shocked.
622
00:44:22,930 --> 00:44:26,650
How dare that dastardly double J do that
to us?
623
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:34,570
The referees determined that, wait a
minute, that
624
00:44:34,570 --> 00:44:40,070
championship belt is not a household
item. The match should continue. And in
625
00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:43,010
meantime, Chyna grabs Jeff's guitar.
626
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800
I mean, China's standing there with an
intercontinental championship.
627
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:07,080
She's holding it high above her head,
and I could tell that she knew that she
628
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,080
was part of history.
629
00:45:08,660 --> 00:45:12,320
I remember standing straight up, and
truly the first thought that came to my
630
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,320
mind was, times, they are a -changing. I
can only think that, you know, from her
631
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:23,100
story and how many mountains she had to
climb to get to that point and how many
632
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,860
times she was told, no, you're not the
right fit.
633
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,440
Of course you're not the right fit.
634
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200
You weren't meant to be the right fit.
You were meant to be bigger than that.
635
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:32,118
You're a star.
636
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,940
As the years have gone on and you hear
little girls who are now adults say,
637
00:45:38,020 --> 00:45:39,260
yeah, I watched child on TV.
638
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:46,960
She gave me hope because there she was,
a woman succeeding in a man's
639
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,640
world. Right now, I'm the reigning
intercontinental champion.
640
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:58,440
That belt means that she's the number
two athlete in our industry. We don't
641
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,220
an Intercontinental Championship for
women. She said, yeah, yeah, well, you
642
00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:05,540
now, because I'm taking it. What I
really think people want to see is a
643
00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:07,500
like me taking some guys.
644
00:46:25,230 --> 00:46:26,230
I'm China.
645
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:27,950
Welcome to my workout.
646
00:46:28,890 --> 00:46:30,250
Don't treat me like a woman.
647
00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:32,710
Don't treat me like a man.
648
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:36,670
Wrestling is not just a man's game
anymore.
649
00:46:38,330 --> 00:46:42,290
I'm probably one of the most
recognizable female athletes in the
650
00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:43,290
now.
651
00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:49,250
If I go to India, people know who I am.
If I go to Germany, people are there
652
00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:50,310
with posters to sign.
653
00:46:51,230 --> 00:46:52,510
Joni was really beloved.
654
00:46:53,020 --> 00:46:57,180
But in the first couple of years, at
least, that love did not extend to the
655
00:46:57,180 --> 00:47:01,500
audience. So I remember on several
occasions, she would come back and she'd
656
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:06,920
a spit that had landed on her. And she
took it in stride as being part of the
657
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,500
job. But deep down, she was a woman who
always wanted to feel beautiful.
658
00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:17,500
You know, she also had a ton of
insecurities and shyness inside and
659
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:20,140
negative self -image at times because of
some of the...
660
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,260
criticism that she would take she'd walk
down the entrance ramp and people would
661
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:30,020
say do you have a penis her fans say
she's a great performer her critics say
662
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:34,480
looks like a pumped up i'm sure you've
heard the rumors some people even say
663
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,780
this china used to be a man because
you're so muscular have you heard this
664
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:42,600
before oh please you've heard all of us
yeah been there done that before a
665
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:48,060
thousand times really so she's working
incredibly hard to achieve this look and
666
00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:52,720
then she's being knocked and teased she
was seeing all these wonderful changes
667
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:58,440
in her body but she may not have been
seeing the feminine things and some of
668
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,960
those things that could not have been
changed without a little help from a
669
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:07,960
surgeon so she took some time off to
have a little bit of work done that made
670
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,220
her feel better about herself i
sometimes wonder if she knew how the
671
00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:14,480
beauty that she had at that time far
672
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,360
exceeded what you might have seen on the
outside.
673
00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:21,080
Funny, the irony is Hunter fell head
over heels in love with the first one.
674
00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:28,700
I do not remember
675
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:33,000
the city we were in, but we were in the
dressing room.
676
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:39,500
Her demeanor was just like, like she
wasn't there.
677
00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:44,860
Chyna had her suspicions that Triple H
and Stephanie McMahon were in more than
678
00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:46,300
just an on -camera relationship.
679
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,100
You mean the world to me.
680
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,580
I love you more than anything in the
world.
681
00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:55,000
So she had found a letter at their house
in Hunter's stuff where it just came
682
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:01,120
out and Stephanie admitted that she had
feelings for Hunter and it devastated
683
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,220
Chyna. I get out of control too.
684
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,340
Okay. I remember being on either the
bike or the Stairmaster.
685
00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:15,260
And she got on the apparatus next to me.
We started talking and she broke down
686
00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:16,260
in tears.
687
00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:18,200
I mean, I can't fathom that.
688
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:24,780
Where I used to be like at the pinnacle
and now everyone's whispering and
689
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:25,780
talking.
690
00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:30,700
It clearly was going to make her future
in WWE a lot more cloudy.
691
00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:33,900
Once Chyna and Triple H.
692
00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:38,930
Broke up, you know, in a way, she kind
of got pushed down to the women's
693
00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:43,350
division. She started having more
matches with females, whether it was
694
00:49:43,350 --> 00:49:48,470
Lita or Trish Stratus, all very
accomplished wrestlers, some of the best
695
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:52,370
history, but also much smaller and not
as physically strong as Chyna. Lita's in
696
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:56,270
deep, deep trouble. Look at the strength
of Chyna, the number one winner of the
697
00:49:56,270 --> 00:50:00,110
world. With the women, I think she was a
little bit like, ah, this is a night
698
00:50:00,110 --> 00:50:02,270
off. She's been up there a long time.
Boom!
699
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:09,780
It wasn't personal, but she did see that
as, like, I've earned this spot, and
700
00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:12,180
I'm not looking to give up my spot
lightly.
701
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,560
As much as I respect all of the women in
the World Wrestling Federation, and I
702
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,500
do, I felt as of late that I really
don't have a whole lot of competition.
703
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:28,320
So instead of pinning my fellow divas,
from now on,
704
00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:31,000
I'm just going to have to spank them.
705
00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:36,140
How far can she go working with the men?
706
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,340
Were we going to eventually put her
against The Rock or Stone Cold and have
707
00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:43,260
beat her? Like, that's not good for her
either, I don't think.
708
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,960
Or are we going to invest in, like we
see today, this women's wrestling being
709
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,960
thing in the future?
710
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,460
WrestleMania 17, I think it's probably
bittersweet for Chyna because, you know,
711
00:50:57,500 --> 00:51:01,680
she had been used to wrestling men and
being in some real high -profile
712
00:51:01,780 --> 00:51:04,780
and now she was wrestling Ivory for the
women's title.
713
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,000
Ivory was, like, the most annoying thing
on your television at the time.
714
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:19,940
Ivory didn't stand much of a chance, but
it was the way to get the title onto
715
00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:20,940
Chyna.
716
00:51:28,759 --> 00:51:32,840
She did kind of have a lackadaisical
pinfall on Ivory, and you almost wonder
717
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,620
she did that on purpose to kind of show
the WWE, like, hey, I'm better than
718
00:51:37,620 --> 00:51:38,620
this.
719
00:51:47,150 --> 00:51:51,310
But I just think that was a time in
Chyna's life where for the first time
720
00:51:51,310 --> 00:51:55,890
could sense that men were looking at her
in a sexual way. They were looking at
721
00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:58,930
her thinking, wow, that lady is hot. And
I think she loved it.
722
00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:03,190
She was the double -headed sex symbol.
One minute she's picking up and scowling
723
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:06,450
as she body slams someone, and the next
day she's in Playboy.
724
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,200
Joni was approached by Hugh Hackner.
There was some talk about her doing
725
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,840
Playboy, and she was all in right from
the get -go.
726
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,980
By doing this, and especially by getting
the cover and such a big layout, it's
727
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:32,320
really such a unique opportunity because
it shows a very strong, sexy, powerful,
728
00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:35,320
millennium woman, and I believe it's me.
729
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,960
When people told me...
730
00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:42,020
That I was ugly and could never grace
the cover or be Playboy material.
731
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:45,740
Well, I guess that I had to prove them
wrong.
732
00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:47,620
Oh, yeah.
733
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,080
And you did it, young lady.
734
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:51,980
And we're damn proud of you. You ready?
735
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:57,900
Yes, I'm ready. I was so proud of her
because I thought she was just
736
00:52:57,900 --> 00:52:58,900
beautiful.
737
00:52:58,980 --> 00:53:04,980
She was feminine. She was athletic
looking, confident.
738
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,740
Isn't that what all women want, right?
739
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,980
The Playboy cover that turned out to be
the best -selling issue in 10 years.
740
00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:16,440
Now she's being embraced as one of the
sexiest women in the world.
741
00:53:19,340 --> 00:53:23,620
It's just one other example of so many
of the things that I've been able to do.
742
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:27,040
I don't know if she could go any higher.
You know, on the late -night talk show,
743
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,880
Jay Leno, cover of Playboy, cover of TV
Guide.
744
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:33,960
There's China, the perfect combination
of brawn and beauty.
745
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:39,640
I am China, the superstar. I wrestle in
the ring. I am able to do other TV
746
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,060
shows. I've done movies, and I have an
autobiography coming out in January.
747
00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:46,600
So she was at the pinnacle of her
career.
748
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,020
And unfortunately, when you're at the
pinnacle, there's really no place to go
749
00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:52,540
but down.
750
00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:16,670
I just worry sometimes that I dedicate
everything to this job and that maybe,
751
00:54:16,850 --> 00:54:21,950
you know, 10 years from now I'm not
doing this anymore and I will have not,
752
00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:26,970
know, gotten married or had kids or done
things that normal people do.
753
00:54:27,710 --> 00:54:31,850
This is a very short -lived business and
I just sometimes think, you know, that
754
00:54:31,850 --> 00:54:36,370
day is going to come for me when I'm
going to plan on being here but, you
755
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:40,010
suddenly I'll be gone and I'll think,
now look what I did.
756
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:43,150
China's contract was up.
757
00:54:43,390 --> 00:54:47,970
So she had to go in and renegotiate. She
wanted equal pay to the guys. She was
758
00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:52,390
one of the main faces of the company
that she busted her ass to become.
759
00:54:53,090 --> 00:54:57,550
And she wanted the same contract that
the other faces of the company had at
760
00:54:57,550 --> 00:55:01,170
time. The Rock, Stone Cold, The
Undertaker.
761
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,480
Joni may have just drawn a line in the
sand saying, I want a million
762
00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:09,480
She thought she deserved it, and the
office didn't agree.
763
00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:14,140
This is an historic day because the
World Wrestling Federation today is
764
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:15,140
Wall Street.
765
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,880
Years later, she would tell people that
they didn't renew her contract or that
766
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,840
they cut her because Stephanie McMahon
was mad at her because of the Triple H
767
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,400
deal, but that's not the case. You know,
Chyna was offered a chance to stay in
768
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,820
WWE for a good salary.
769
00:55:29,530 --> 00:55:33,210
And she decided not to do it. And I
think that was probably the decision
770
00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:34,610
started her downfall.
771
00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:40,490
I wasn't too particularly happy at how
it all ended, how it went down.
772
00:55:40,990 --> 00:55:44,630
I mean, you don't want to see your
friends hurt.
773
00:55:45,450 --> 00:55:51,890
I do feel like there was a sense of
abandonment that Joni felt because
774
00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:57,650
we did not keep in touch. We, the WWE
community, did not keep in touch with
775
00:55:57,650 --> 00:55:58,650
like we used to.
776
00:55:58,830 --> 00:56:02,470
Once you're accepted in the club and
there are wrestling clubs, we do look at
777
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:03,470
each other like family.
778
00:56:03,530 --> 00:56:08,090
And there's an intimacy you can't avoid
when you're riding together and, you
779
00:56:08,090 --> 00:56:11,650
know, you're wrestling together, you're
getting hurt together. Then being
780
00:56:11,650 --> 00:56:16,290
suddenly torn out of that world, I could
see that being difficult to kind of
781
00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:18,550
readjust and get your feet back on the
ground.
782
00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:27,650
When Joni left the WWE, she decided that
she was going to try to do some acting
783
00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:30,950
and see if she could make go of the
whole Hollywood thing.
784
00:56:34,810 --> 00:56:35,810
What?
785
00:56:37,070 --> 00:56:41,130
She was stereotyped as a wrestler, so
pretty much any of the roles that she
786
00:56:41,130 --> 00:56:45,370
were as a big, brawny, wrestling type of
character.
787
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,800
It was starting to get increasingly
harder and harder to keep things going.
788
00:56:56,860 --> 00:57:02,160
It didn't materialize into anything that
stuck.
789
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:03,700
What?
790
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,680
You don't recognize me?
791
00:57:05,940 --> 00:57:12,120
She couldn't legally use the name Chyna
because the WWE owned that contract.
792
00:57:12,660 --> 00:57:17,140
WB lawyers have asked us not to refer to
this former wrestler by her stage name.
793
00:57:18,350 --> 00:57:23,430
So she couldn't sell herself out in the
entertainment world as China.
794
00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:27,550
She had to go by Joni Lauer. Now nobody
knows Joni Lauer.
795
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:31,830
During this period, Joni's spending a
lot of time at the Playboy Mansion.
796
00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:35,770
She moved to Hollywood, and all of a
sudden, you know, someone that had been
797
00:57:35,770 --> 00:57:40,010
clean, her whole life started dabbling
in drugs and alcohol.
798
00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:45,710
She would no -show casting calls because
she was hungover or on drugs somewhere.
799
00:57:59,190 --> 00:58:06,190
I think Chyna was longing.
800
00:58:06,810 --> 00:58:10,470
for genuine friendships, and she had
trouble finding them. You know, I think
801
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:14,890
most of the people that she was hanging
around were associating themselves with
802
00:58:14,890 --> 00:58:15,930
her because she was famous.
803
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:24,130
She'd have a couple of gigs, and then
they would go away, and then
804
00:58:24,130 --> 00:58:25,130
now what?
805
00:58:30,910 --> 00:58:35,770
Things started going downhill with my
wife. I just finally had enough.
806
00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:37,380
And I left.
807
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:40,840
I had moved out to L .A. I was really
brokenhearted.
808
00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:43,320
My grandmother says, Johnny,
809
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,300
like, China's out there. You guys always
got along great. You should look her
810
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:48,300
up.
811
00:58:48,380 --> 00:58:51,600
My grandma had a really track record as
a matchmaker.
812
00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:53,600
That was a really bad idea.
813
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,380
I never looked at Johnny like that, I
swear to God. Like, before, like, our
814
00:58:59,380 --> 00:59:05,050
relationship blossomed, I never thought
twice about... Like, anything
815
00:59:05,050 --> 00:59:10,050
romantically with her. I was in heaven,
man. Like, that was, I was, I just
816
00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:11,050
thought, okay, happiness.
817
00:59:12,130 --> 00:59:16,570
And I think she felt that, too, man.
Like, it was, like, there was a couple
818
00:59:16,570 --> 00:59:19,930
months there that everything was just,
like, heaven.
819
00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:26,350
Joni became involved with Sean, another
wonderful guy. Three for three with men.
820
00:59:26,890 --> 00:59:30,470
that loved her, really truly loved her
and accepted her the way that she was.
821
00:59:30,590 --> 00:59:37,090
But he was in a bad place, too, so I
think two wrongs made a really bad
822
00:59:37,630 --> 00:59:42,210
They really met each other when both of
them were at rock bottom. Together, you
823
00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:48,030
know, they just kind of started this
downward spiral that lasted for quite a
824
00:59:48,030 --> 00:59:51,530
while. There's that hurt, right? I'm
just, I'm hurting.
825
00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:54,350
I'm hurting, and she makes me feel
better.
826
00:59:55,150 --> 01:00:00,470
And she's the only thing that, besides
like the drugs, I just started getting
827
01:00:00,470 --> 01:00:02,590
into the speed and all that.
828
01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:08,010
And it hadn't, it didn't seem like a big
deal at the time. It took a little bit
829
01:00:08,010 --> 01:00:11,710
for that to really like grab ahold of me
and kick my ass.
830
01:00:12,250 --> 01:00:15,530
I don't want to cast aspersions on how
their relationship was.
831
01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:20,470
From the outside, it looked very toxic
and not good for either one of them.
832
01:00:20,650 --> 01:00:24,070
Look, I'm itching and scratching. I'm
uncomfortable talking about it because
833
01:00:24,070 --> 01:00:27,170
was just weird to me. And I know it
wasn't a good part of their lives.
834
01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:30,150
I was hiding my drug use from her.
835
01:00:30,910 --> 01:00:35,330
And I didn't realize at the time that
she was hiding hers from me as well.
836
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:38,610
I was doing drugs in the bathroom, in
the shower.
837
01:00:38,830 --> 01:00:40,850
I would spend a lot of time in the
shower.
838
01:00:41,310 --> 01:00:43,010
A lot of time in the shower.
839
01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:47,790
And, you know, finally she found the
paraphernalia.
840
01:00:50,370 --> 01:00:52,490
Like, I just thought it was over. Like,
okay.
841
01:00:54,970 --> 01:00:57,470
Bummer, man. I'm so happy in this, you
know.
842
01:00:58,530 --> 01:00:59,870
And now it's all f***ed up.
843
01:01:00,250 --> 01:01:01,490
And she was just like, huh.
844
01:01:02,190 --> 01:01:03,190
Yeah, well, I do this.
845
01:01:06,670 --> 01:01:08,990
So you guys no longer had to hide from
each other? No.
846
01:01:09,730 --> 01:01:11,850
No. And that wasn't a very good thing.
847
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,840
So around 2002, a new opportunity
presented itself.
848
01:01:32,420 --> 01:01:38,720
After she was invited to leave by WWE,
the company New Japan saw her worth and
849
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,280
invited her to come and play with them.
850
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,320
Tokyo Dome sold out 60 ,000 plus people.
851
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,800
Masahiro Chono against female wrestler.
This was a huge deal.
852
01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:59,180
Her walking down that ramp, you know, in
that beautiful outfit, it was like
853
01:01:59,180 --> 01:02:01,900
nothing that I've seen before,
especially in New Japan Pro Wrestling.
854
01:02:02,180 --> 01:02:09,100
He was their number one person in Japan,
and she was going toe -to -toe
855
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:10,100
with him.
856
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:15,400
Chono was like blood coming out of her
ear, and her face was red.
857
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,400
Chono won the match.
858
01:02:19,930 --> 01:02:24,570
Even with him winning, she really was
the star of the match completely.
859
01:02:25,030 --> 01:02:26,330
Obviously the star of the show.
860
01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:32,170
Let me wait until everybody's in here to
tell you that I didn't lose that match
861
01:02:32,170 --> 01:02:35,910
because I beat his ass in front of all
of his fans.
862
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:42,630
I can remember sitting in the corner
watching her interview and how proud she
863
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:45,630
was. Realistically, I was quite honored
to fight Chunk.
864
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:46,910
He's the best.
865
01:02:53,319 --> 01:02:56,780
When she came home, I really noticed
that she was different.
866
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,420
I couldn't have a regular conversation
with her.
867
01:02:59,660 --> 01:03:02,100
She would be calling me at all hours of
the day and the night.
868
01:03:02,420 --> 01:03:05,900
The drug use sort of escalated. I knew
there was a problem.
869
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,740
She kind of stopped training with us. We
just kind of saw less and less of her
870
01:03:10,740 --> 01:03:13,940
until eventually it was just like, oh,
we're not doing business with China
871
01:03:13,940 --> 01:03:20,060
anymore. I think the change really began
after her run in Japan was over. I wish
872
01:03:20,060 --> 01:03:25,220
she had gone about establishing herself
on the independent circuit. She would
873
01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:29,720
have been a huge draw everywhere she
went. But she kind of gave up on
874
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,720
after that.
875
01:03:31,140 --> 01:03:33,900
And in a sense, it felt like wrestling
gave up on her.
876
01:03:37,740 --> 01:03:43,100
For two or three years, between about
2003 and 2005, China and Xbox were doing
877
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:45,180
lot of drugs together. They were doing
crystal meth.
878
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:47,200
I think they called it ice.
879
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,400
She said it keeps her up for days on
end. She can get so much done.
880
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:54,500
And then when she did fall asleep, she
would crash.
881
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,060
That's kind of how the two of them were
living.
882
01:03:57,420 --> 01:04:01,840
We were doing the same exact drugs, but
I had graduated to the needle, and that
883
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,480
really bothered her.
884
01:04:04,810 --> 01:04:07,270
Oh, it is a great recipe for disaster.
885
01:04:07,930 --> 01:04:11,750
Now you've got two people, and so you've
got to buy twice the dope, and so
886
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:14,870
you've got to get twice the money. And
so now we're willing to do anything.
887
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:51,690
Eventually, China and Xbox, you know,
had sexual intercourse. They filmed it.
888
01:04:53,230 --> 01:04:55,710
Ended up selling that film.
889
01:04:56,410 --> 01:04:57,910
The worst idea ever.
890
01:04:58,390 --> 01:05:03,170
I mean, we're both just... People that
have been there, as far as drug -wise
891
01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:06,390
knows, like, your inhibitions and all
that goes out the window.
892
01:05:06,770 --> 01:05:12,710
I don't think there's anybody
893
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:14,990
that is...
894
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,700
Really proud of that. I think you do
that out of necessity. You look around
895
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:23,400
say, well, where else am I going to make
this kind of money?
896
01:05:24,020 --> 01:05:28,940
It ended up a deal being done with the
same people that did the Tommy Lee,
897
01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:31,140
Pamela Anderson tape.
898
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,960
My initial reaction was horror.
899
01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:37,020
Black? Yeah.
900
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,360
All right.
901
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,280
Secondly, I thought, that's not the real
Joni. That's just, that's drugs.
902
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:48,300
She was grasping for straws to get
money, to get publicity.
903
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,440
I don't know if Joni ever outran the
shame of it.
904
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,700
Things had progressively gotten worse,
and I knew, like, I was in rough shape
905
01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:05,420
too, and at least, like, realized, like,
I need help myself. I can't help
906
01:06:05,420 --> 01:06:09,520
anyone. She got to the point where I was
so worried about her drug use.
907
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:14,140
And Sean was worried about her drug use,
that he actually called me and said,
908
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:17,300
you need to come out here and try to get
Joni into a rehab.
909
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:22,500
So I actually got on a plane. I showed
up at her door. She had no idea I was
910
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:27,060
coming. And as I opened the door,
there's Kathy right in front of me.
911
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:28,340
Classic intervention.
912
01:06:28,660 --> 01:06:31,200
Joni, I think you've got a problem. I
really, really love you.
913
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,360
Please do this for me.
914
01:06:33,860 --> 01:06:35,800
Will you consider going to rehab?
915
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,260
I somehow managed to drag her butt on a
plane.
916
01:06:39,770 --> 01:06:41,250
to this place in Arizona.
917
01:06:41,690 --> 01:06:48,510
She got there, and they gave her the
papers to sign in, and she said nope
918
01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:50,210
and walked out the door and left.
919
01:06:50,810 --> 01:06:52,910
And that was the end of our
relationship.
920
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:57,410
From then on, Joni wasn't really
speaking to me anymore because she was
921
01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:59,050
at me for trying to do this.
922
01:06:59,890 --> 01:07:04,810
Of all the people, like damage and all
that, Kathy was hurt the worst of anyone
923
01:07:04,810 --> 01:07:06,210
besides Joni herself.
924
01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:15,810
I think all of that, like, spun her into
a downward spiral, and I don't know if
925
01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:16,830
she ever kicked out of it.
926
01:07:17,490 --> 01:07:21,970
It wasn't so much, like, coke or
anything at this point. It was
927
01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:28,370
pills. It was alcohol and, like, Xanax.
They would go on these massive drug
928
01:07:28,370 --> 01:07:32,310
binges where they would get in fights.
At one point, she punched him and broke
929
01:07:32,310 --> 01:07:36,390
his nose. Another time, she allegedly
attacked him in front of his kid.
930
01:07:36,670 --> 01:07:38,250
It got to the point where...
931
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:44,220
He drove her to Cedars -Sinai Medical
Center in 2005 and dropped her off and
932
01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:46,340
said, this girl needs help.
933
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:49,460
I never saw her again. I never saw her
in person again.
934
01:07:49,860 --> 01:07:52,360
It was hard for a long time after that.
935
01:07:54,020 --> 01:08:00,960
Within months, Chyna went from being in
People magazine and TV Guide
936
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,240
to getting lampooned on TMZ.
937
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:13,490
Cruel. It's cruel. I know. I'm sorry.
I'm a man -eater.
938
01:08:14,810 --> 01:08:21,529
Cruel. I had found a niche at that time
and phase of my life where I was placing
939
01:08:21,529 --> 01:08:25,490
celebrities on these celebrity -based
reality shows.
940
01:08:25,830 --> 01:08:30,229
And I had a slew of them. I knew if I
saw her on TV at that period in time, it
941
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:31,229
was going to be a train wreck.
942
01:08:33,050 --> 01:08:37,189
No one wants to be the boring person on
a reality show.
943
01:08:38,109 --> 01:08:43,330
But I think she overplayed it to the
point where it was hard to tell where
944
01:08:43,330 --> 01:08:45,609
old Joanie ended and this new Joanie
began.
945
01:08:46,830 --> 01:08:53,790
When you're tuning into Celebrity Rehab,
specifically because
946
01:08:53,790 --> 01:08:57,630
you know someone who's on there, that's
a bad sign.
947
01:08:58,370 --> 01:09:00,790
What scares you most about being here?
948
01:09:01,050 --> 01:09:03,569
The confusion of why I'm here.
949
01:09:03,870 --> 01:09:07,090
It is sad when your heroes let you down.
950
01:09:08,419 --> 01:09:13,859
It's a bummer. For about 10 years, China
just continued to go through ups and
951
01:09:13,859 --> 01:09:19,600
downs and peaks and valleys. But things
actually got so bad around 2012 that her
952
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,420
friend got worried about her, went over
to check on her. China was in an
953
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:24,560
apartment with no furniture.
954
01:09:24,819 --> 01:09:28,620
There was an air mattress on the floor
that she was sleeping on with no sheets.
955
01:09:29,060 --> 01:09:30,760
The apartment reeked of whiskey.
956
01:09:31,380 --> 01:09:32,960
There was cigarette butts everywhere.
957
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:36,439
She answered the door with heavy
eyelids, reeking of alcohol.
958
01:09:37,050 --> 01:09:41,890
At that point, her friend said, Joni,
you're coming with me. I'm taking you
959
01:09:41,890 --> 01:09:44,970
to Hawaii, and we're going to get your
life in order. I'm not taking no for an
960
01:09:44,970 --> 01:09:49,010
answer. China packed up her stuff, went
to Hawaii, and tried to make some
961
01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:50,010
changes.
962
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:07,520
Joni spent a very brief period in
Hawaii, and then she... packed up her
963
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,520
and moved to Japan.
964
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:09,700
There we are.
965
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,220
Learn English with me.
966
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,360
She got her head straight. She was
teaching these Japanese kids English.
967
01:10:16,580 --> 01:10:18,500
I'm getting used to living in Japan.
968
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,780
I almost felt, for the first time, a
sense of relief.
969
01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:27,000
This is what she needs. She needs, like,
a boring schedule that just gives her
970
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,300
somewhere to be, something that's
helping others and giving her a purpose.
971
01:10:34,020 --> 01:10:35,760
Joni loved Japan.
972
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:39,870
She loved it. She loved going there. She
loved the culture. She loved the
973
01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:40,870
people.
974
01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:45,750
This is kind of like a little scrapbook
from people that were in Japan with her.
975
01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:52,670
This means a lot to me because it tells
me how these people knew her not as
976
01:10:52,670 --> 01:10:53,670
a wrestler.
977
01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:54,970
She looks happy.
978
01:10:55,150 --> 01:10:56,310
She looks very happy.
979
01:10:58,130 --> 01:11:05,130
I don't think China got any better in
Japan. I think she got worse.
980
01:11:07,180 --> 01:11:11,960
Within a couple of weeks, you know, she
was found on her kitchen floor with deep
981
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,520
cuts in her forearms, and she had to be
rushed to the hospital.
982
01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:19,740
It's only recently I found out that they
prescribed her some medication because
983
01:11:19,740 --> 01:11:24,280
she was in a severe depression. I'm just
sitting here in an empty room in the
984
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,280
boiling heat.
985
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:29,060
To the point where she tried to take her
life by attacking a policeman.
986
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:35,040
And police in Japan don't carry
firearms, or else it may have been a
987
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,040
story.
988
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,200
A group of police officers tackled her,
put her in handcuffs and took her to a
989
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,179
mental asylum.
990
01:11:41,180 --> 01:11:43,600
The incidents cost China her job.
991
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:50,980
I figured the one way that I can get
China back to the state
992
01:11:50,980 --> 01:11:57,240
and do something with her is bring back
the idea of reconstruction of China,
993
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:02,520
which back in the mid 2000s was a
reality show that we were pitching. So
994
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,980
to make sure that you are provided.
995
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:09,180
With the lifestyle and the people that
you're surrounded with, that is only
996
01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:12,720
going to bring you joy and happiness
from now until the day you die. Let's
997
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,720
make it a documentary.
998
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:15,460
We'll film a year of her life.
999
01:12:17,380 --> 01:12:19,940
Eventually, she did get out of there,
and that's when she flew back to the
1000
01:12:19,940 --> 01:12:21,980
United States to try to make her
documentary.
1001
01:12:22,740 --> 01:12:24,020
She's going to face her demons.
1002
01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:28,460
She's going to be put in some very
uncomfortable situation.
1003
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:32,120
Basically, what Anthony was trying to
design was like a...
1004
01:12:32,380 --> 01:12:36,680
B -level version of the resurrection of
Jake the Snake Roberts.
1005
01:12:36,940 --> 01:12:41,960
If you want to stay with us, you don't
drink ever again in the presence of us,
1006
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:48,900
period. So when was the last time you
put some scissors or some knives to
1007
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:52,440
your... It smelled fishy right from the
get -go. She thought she was going to
1008
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:53,440
make a fresh start.
1009
01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:57,140
All it really did was bring everything
right, bubble right back up to the
1010
01:12:57,140 --> 01:12:58,140
surface again.
1011
01:13:03,150 --> 01:13:04,830
I feel pretty tired.
1012
01:13:05,050 --> 01:13:06,050
That's what we charge.
1013
01:13:06,650 --> 01:13:08,010
$100 for the two.
1014
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:14,010
Jet lag is starting to set in now. I'm
still assimilating just being in the
1015
01:13:14,010 --> 01:13:17,990
United States. She did her first Comic
-Con in Long Island. Mick came up to her
1016
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:21,010
and they hugged for like five minutes in
tears and whatnot.
1017
01:13:21,450 --> 01:13:26,390
Hi, Joni. She wrapped her arms around
me. It was like I'd rediscovered a great
1018
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:29,730
friend. I'm about 35 minutes away from
here. Do you want to come over and have
1019
01:13:29,730 --> 01:13:30,730
dinner with the police?
1020
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,860
My dad called and he said, yeah, Joni's
coming over. And I'm like, what?
1021
01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:40,160
Like, she is?
1022
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,100
I got the
1023
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:50,100
sense. I
1024
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:56,740
wish she had not agreed to have
1025
01:13:56,740 --> 01:13:58,640
her journey documented.
1026
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,240
We are here to tell you about a very
special project.
1027
01:14:02,350 --> 01:14:03,950
It's called the reconstruction of China.
1028
01:14:04,210 --> 01:14:06,010
Joni showed me her upcoming schedule.
1029
01:14:06,430 --> 01:14:08,430
You went away for, what, four years?
1030
01:14:08,650 --> 01:14:13,690
And I just felt like she was diving into
the deep end of the pool when she
1031
01:14:13,690 --> 01:14:17,650
should have been dipping her toes into
the shallow end. Suddenly, I wasn't
1032
01:14:17,650 --> 01:14:21,730
remembered for, like, all the great
things I did in wrestling, but, like,
1033
01:14:21,730 --> 01:14:22,730
become this monster.
1034
01:14:22,810 --> 01:14:26,330
I voiced my concern. Like, that's all
you can do is give a friend the best
1035
01:14:26,330 --> 01:14:28,270
advice you can and let them know.
1036
01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:32,080
You were there for them. The documentary
ended up being just a series of
1037
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,780
manufactured events that would look good
on TV.
1038
01:14:35,140 --> 01:14:37,960
We're about to go into the headquarter
office of WWE.
1039
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:39,460
We're going to ask for Hunter.
1040
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,180
We're going to ask for Vince.
1041
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:42,640
We're driving cross -country.
1042
01:14:42,980 --> 01:14:45,120
Let's stop by and see if they owe you
any money.
1043
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:46,600
Harmless to me.
1044
01:14:46,860 --> 01:14:52,200
And he goes in with a camera person and
forces a meeting at the WWE headquarters
1045
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,660
without no appointment.
1046
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,380
And we were asked to simply leave.
1047
01:14:56,750 --> 01:14:58,690
We were not greeted favorably.
1048
01:14:59,250 --> 01:15:02,650
Everybody was staring right at me. I got
a couple smiles.
1049
01:15:02,930 --> 01:15:07,350
She was in no mental shape to take on
that kind of schedule or that kind of
1050
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:14,350
spotlight. Now this morning, we are on
our way to Miami, where my father
1051
01:15:14,350 --> 01:15:15,350
is buried.
1052
01:15:15,490 --> 01:15:20,690
There were a lot of people that wanted
to help her, and she was very good at
1053
01:15:20,690 --> 01:15:23,290
keeping a distance and not letting
people back in.
1054
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,840
And she certainly did that with me. You
told me all those things, but then you
1055
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,840
were never there.
1056
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,920
I don't know why. I mean, I think,
unfortunately, Joni probably suffered
1057
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,960
some mental illnesses at a very young
age that went undiagnosed, undetected.
1058
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:43,440
They certainly exacerbated all the
problems that she had later in her life.
1059
01:15:43,820 --> 01:15:44,820
Hey!
1060
01:15:45,660 --> 01:15:51,440
90 % of the time, China was incredible,
down -to -earth, hilarious.
1061
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,740
Unfortunately, there was still that 10 %
to 20 % side that wanted to be a diva,
1062
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,240
that wanted to get house.
1063
01:15:58,660 --> 01:16:01,020
Anthony showed up, and he went like
this.
1064
01:16:02,380 --> 01:16:09,360
He took some pictures and some markers
at me, and like, like, what the f***?
1065
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,680
Who the f***?
1066
01:16:11,839 --> 01:16:15,960
So she never really felt like she had a
problem, an addiction problem.
1067
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:18,580
But she obviously did.
1068
01:16:21,860 --> 01:16:28,300
She would binge sometimes 17 straight
days. She'd probably sleep two of those.
1069
01:16:34,030 --> 01:16:36,870
Having a hard time eating. I need some
help.
1070
01:16:37,190 --> 01:16:42,290
What do you want? Can you help me? You
have to remember, Joni was fragile.
1071
01:16:42,690 --> 01:16:48,290
I'm trying to, bitch! As powerful as she
was, she was dealt a bad hand. And the
1072
01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:52,050
right people were not there for her in
the right place at the right time.
1073
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:57,330
I spent a long 10 years, 15 years. I
don't know how long.
1074
01:16:57,690 --> 01:16:58,690
No.
1075
01:16:59,330 --> 01:17:01,290
But I'm tired.
1076
01:17:06,860 --> 01:17:08,200
Retina, I'm a champion.
1077
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,520
Don't treat me that way.
1078
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:22,500
She leaves a voicemail. Hey, guys, I'm
going to seek rehab. I'm going to try to
1079
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:24,860
clean myself up. And don't tell Anthony.
1080
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,180
A day or so went by.
1081
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,780
She wasn't responding to texts. She no
-showed an appointment.
1082
01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:34,840
She probably had a big bender right
before she went to rehab. A lot of
1083
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:35,840
do that.
1084
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,840
He went over, snuck in past the security
gate at the apartment, went up to her
1085
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,480
floor, and the door was unlocked.
1086
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:50,200
He walks in conveniently with another
guy filming on a camera phone behind
1087
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:53,600
I think he knew once the door was
unlocked and he could just walk in
1088
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,360
something might not be good.
1089
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:13,360
China was found dead here at her
apartment in Redondo Beach, California.
1090
01:18:13,900 --> 01:18:18,420
A friend told cops that China hadn't
answered her phone in days and came to
1091
01:18:18,420 --> 01:18:21,300
check on her. That's when the friend
found her lying in bed.
1092
01:18:21,540 --> 01:18:25,700
I was in Atlanta airport and it was on
the news.
1093
01:18:25,980 --> 01:18:30,900
The news came in and I burst into tears,
burst into tears.
1094
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:37,320
It was a combination of alcohol and
sedatives. You do anything in excess,
1095
01:18:37,580 --> 01:18:38,580
you're...
1096
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,480
you're likely to pay, and in this case,
it cost her her life.
1097
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:51,760
She was so much more than just another
celebrity gone from
1098
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,960
an overdose.
1099
01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:55,020
She was way more than that.
1100
01:18:55,300 --> 01:19:00,860
I think I mourned her death years before
she actually died. You know, when she
1101
01:19:00,860 --> 01:19:05,500
died, it was horrible, but I remember
also thinking, thank God this woman
1102
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:06,500
finally has some peace.
1103
01:19:12,049 --> 01:19:16,750
The memorial service for China was like
nothing I've ever seen. It seemed like
1104
01:19:16,750 --> 01:19:19,790
more of a production than a memorial
service.
1105
01:19:20,190 --> 01:19:24,050
The goal was, let's get a bunch of
celebrities here, let's sell some
1106
01:19:24,150 --> 01:19:27,550
let's sell some shirts, and do something
that people are going to talk about.
1107
01:19:28,050 --> 01:19:29,710
They sold tickets for that?
1108
01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:32,710
Oh, hell, really?
1109
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,000
that memorial show was a low -rent hot
mess.
1110
01:19:43,380 --> 01:19:46,720
Yes, I was invited. No, I did not
attend.
1111
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,120
In my opinion, it was a joke.
1112
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:53,100
When he held up the urn and he said, The
bitch is in the house!
1113
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,680
I was mortified.
1114
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:03,840
This urn was custom -made. It's got her
classic colors, and the font is similar
1115
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,640
to what she sort of...
1116
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,980
was using towards the end. And I think
that she would really, really love this.
1117
01:20:11,260 --> 01:20:12,580
This is China.
1118
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:19,060
The morning after the memorial service,
a small group of people went out on a
1119
01:20:19,060 --> 01:20:22,980
boat and spread China's ashes into the
Pacific Ocean.
1120
01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:27,820
The horizon where the sky meets the
ocean is three miles.
1121
01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:33,700
No matter where you are in the ocean. We
did it exactly three miles out of her
1122
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:37,930
apartment. So that if you go to her
apartment and you stand out and look
1123
01:20:37,930 --> 01:20:39,190
the ocean, you're with her.
1124
01:20:44,650 --> 01:20:50,270
Here's this famous woman who not long
ago was on The Tonight Show, a woman who
1125
01:20:50,270 --> 01:20:55,710
was on billboards and in Playboy. And
now I'm on this boat and no one that's
1126
01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:59,030
here toward the end of her life other
than Anthony really knew her. And it was
1127
01:20:59,030 --> 01:21:01,690
just a sad thing, but it also just kind
of illustrated.
1128
01:21:02,740 --> 01:21:05,480
All the problems that were in her life.
That was the issue. She didn't have any
1129
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:06,480
close friends.
1130
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:17,600
If I had the chance to talk to her
again, I would have reiterated that I
1131
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,460
her and I was there for her. But more
importantly, I would have backed it up
1132
01:21:20,460 --> 01:21:21,459
with my actions.
1133
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:24,880
There always seemed to be a tomorrow
until there wasn't.
1134
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:30,370
I got some people in my life I'd love to
have one more opportunity with, and I
1135
01:21:30,370 --> 01:21:34,310
would love one more opportunity with
her. I'd love to have dinner. I'd love
1136
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:38,410
have lunch, have a conversation, have a
coffee, anything with her, and just
1137
01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:40,270
spend some time and laugh.
1138
01:21:40,770 --> 01:21:44,630
Sorry. She was so funny, man. She was so
fun to be around.
1139
01:21:45,170 --> 01:21:46,170
I just miss her.
1140
01:21:48,970 --> 01:21:52,830
I didn't do that. I didn't call her and
say, hey, guess what I'm doing now.
1141
01:21:53,290 --> 01:21:54,290
Thank you.
1142
01:21:55,280 --> 01:22:01,840
Maybe that phone call would have let her
have one less drink.
1143
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,080
Let her have one less bump.
1144
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:11,280
There's a lot to put on myself, but you
know, you always wonder.
1145
01:22:11,980 --> 01:22:14,180
Because she meant a lot to me.
1146
01:22:14,740 --> 01:22:17,200
She meant a lot. Can we take a break?
Let's take a break.
1147
01:22:19,820 --> 01:22:24,900
We'd like to welcome you to the 2019 WWE
Hall of Fame ceremony.
1148
01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:30,180
I was asked to go to the Hall of Fame
induction for DX, of which Joni was a
1149
01:22:30,180 --> 01:22:36,020
part. I have never, ever attended
anything like that in my entire life.
1150
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:39,160
all, the WWE, if they do it, they do it
big.
1151
01:22:39,620 --> 01:22:42,400
Joni was on everybody's mind that night.
1152
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,740
Her legacy goes way beyond our industry.
In some manner, I look at her during
1153
01:22:47,740 --> 01:22:48,740
that time frame.
1154
01:22:49,290 --> 01:22:56,050
has like this paradigm shift of the
thinking of how people saw women and
1155
01:22:56,050 --> 01:23:02,490
of power and what women can do with that
power. It's fitting in this moment that
1156
01:23:02,490 --> 01:23:06,710
at WrestleMania tomorrow night, the
women will headline WrestleMania for the
1157
01:23:06,710 --> 01:23:07,710
first time in history.
1158
01:23:08,450 --> 01:23:13,490
And the night before that, probably the
most impactful woman to ever step foot
1159
01:23:13,490 --> 01:23:16,430
in this ring gets inducted into the Hall
of Fame.
1160
01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:18,570
She set the table for...
1161
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:24,680
Every woman that came after her, for me
personally, she encouraged me. She
1162
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:29,280
believed in me, and she told me any
dream I had, anything I wanted to do in
1163
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:34,780
company, that I could do that. I feel
sad that Joni didn't really get to see
1164
01:23:34,780 --> 01:23:38,820
much she meant to these next
generations, myself being one of them.
1165
01:23:38,820 --> 01:23:41,780
those good things she did often get
forgotten about, and that's what
1166
01:23:41,780 --> 01:23:44,740
happen. I just wish history had not
taken so long.
1167
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,900
to recognize her contributions.
1168
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,940
I wouldn't be where I am without her in
my career.
1169
01:23:50,180 --> 01:23:51,900
The ex wouldn't be where it is.
1170
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:57,340
I see her so differently than her China
persona. To me, she's not China. To me,
1171
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,500
she's Joni. I really miss her every
single day.
1172
01:24:01,420 --> 01:24:02,460
Gabby, she's here.
1173
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,200
She's here.
1174
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,280
The real her.
1175
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,300
You know, Mick Foley had always told his
daughter, Noelle, back when she was
1176
01:24:39,300 --> 01:24:43,200
about four, that China was strong. Oh,
there's no one stronger than China. I
1177
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:48,240
remember saying to my dad, Joni is
strong like dolphin, or she's maybe even
1178
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,260
stronger than dolphin.
1179
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,600
That was my daughter's gauge on
strength.
1180
01:24:53,820 --> 01:24:58,500
So if you were up there with dolphins,
you were doing really well in my
1181
01:24:58,500 --> 01:24:59,500
daughter's mind.
1182
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:04,180
We all kind of found a place on the
boat. We were getting ready to drive
1183
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,920
All of a sudden, someone goes, oh, my
gosh, look at these dolphins.
1184
01:25:08,420 --> 01:25:11,380
And everyone hopped out from their seat
and went over to the side of the boat,
1185
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,060
and there was literally like four or
five dolphins on the side of the boat,
1186
01:25:16,060 --> 01:25:18,160
of like escorting the boat back to the
dock.
1187
01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:21,380
And then someone said, they're over
here, too. And, like, I ran over to the
1188
01:25:21,380 --> 01:25:25,960
other side, and there was four or five
more just flanking the boat, guiding us
1189
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:26,960
back to shore.
1190
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:29,220
Jason was there to document it.
1191
01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:30,500
Dolphins emerged.
1192
01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:31,660
Wow.
1193
01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:33,260
Dolphins emerged.
1194
01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:34,870
during the sprinkling of the ashes.
1195
01:25:36,150 --> 01:25:37,930
It's actually fitting, I think.
1196
01:25:38,170 --> 01:25:43,530
I felt like those dolphins were kind of
China's way of saying, hey,
1197
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:45,490
I'm good.
1198
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:46,750
I'll be okay.
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