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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,980 Got the slow motion yet? No, we're going to... One second. 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,840 All right. 3 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,480 My 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:40,820 experience 5 00:00:40,820 --> 00:00:44,420 is really difficult to put in words because it's so far from... 6 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,720 The norm, and it's so far from any other female that I've met. 7 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:56,200 It was just so totally unaccepted at that time. I got shot down every time I 8 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,860 tried to do something. It was always two steps forward, one step back. 9 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:05,019 I knew in my heart that I was going to end up doing something because that, I 10 00:01:05,019 --> 00:01:08,800 felt, has always been my destiny. I would have to do that or I'd be a very 11 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,800 unhappy person. 12 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:13,380 But I knew that I was going up against a lot. 13 00:01:21,870 --> 00:01:23,930 She was living, breathing Wonder Woman. 14 00:01:26,010 --> 00:01:30,530 Just unbelievable sight to see. Look at the size of this woman. 15 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:36,750 She was the ninth wonder of the world. 16 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:41,470 She was a true superstar. 17 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:45,430 Where did she come from anyway? The glass you hear break when Austin's music 18 00:01:45,430 --> 00:01:48,050 hit, that was the ceiling that China busted through. 19 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,200 China, perhaps the most physically talented woman ever here. You know, I 20 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,640 want to just rise to the top of what the women are doing. That's not why I 21 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,640 joined the business. 22 00:01:57,020 --> 00:02:03,960 She knew how to stand 23 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,300 there and let you drink it in. 24 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,979 When she came out and she was as big as the dude and could beat the dude up, 25 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,360 like, holy mackerel, this is a whole new thing. We haven't seen this before. 26 00:02:15,780 --> 00:02:17,560 Women can do it. 27 00:02:17,870 --> 00:02:18,870 What else? 28 00:02:19,170 --> 00:02:22,530 She did things in the ring that females had never done. 29 00:02:22,870 --> 00:02:24,910 And it took her to another level. 30 00:02:25,330 --> 00:02:28,750 First female Intercontinental Champion, first King of the Ring female 31 00:02:28,750 --> 00:02:32,990 participant, first female participant entrant into the WWE Royal Rumble. 32 00:02:33,290 --> 00:02:38,170 I feel that it's time for a new breed of female pro wrestler. 33 00:02:38,590 --> 00:02:43,250 You don't slow that train down. You let that train pull into the station and 34 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:44,250 blow people's minds. 35 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,820 She was a sought -after sex symbol, someone you'd make a movie about. 36 00:02:51,060 --> 00:02:55,560 She is the ninth wonder of the world. To readers of Playboy, she is the November 37 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,560 cover girl. 38 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,440 From the time when a little girl wanted to be the famous larger -than -life 39 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,560 woman. She shot up to fame like a meteor that just kind of disappears, 40 00:03:07,980 --> 00:03:10,200 and it's gone. 41 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,740 I want to be... 42 00:03:13,260 --> 00:03:17,460 top of what I'm doing, and even though I feel like I have the ability to do 43 00:03:17,460 --> 00:03:23,080 that, I can't. The downward spiral was so dramatic that that's what people 44 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,080 remember. 45 00:03:24,180 --> 00:03:26,620 Towards the end, drug use sort of escalated. 46 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:30,180 She tried to drink away that hurt, and she tried to snort away that hurt, and 47 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:31,960 she tried to smoke away that hurt. 48 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,260 It's one thing to get to the top of the mountain. It's another thing altogether 49 00:03:35,260 --> 00:03:38,640 to stay there, and it is lonely at the top. 50 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,880 I'm Tyna. 51 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000 I'm a champion. 52 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,580 One of the greatest days I ever had was when Johnny was born. 53 00:04:04,820 --> 00:04:09,400 I remember her being delivered very quickly. I was kind of hoping maybe she 54 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,700 would be a Christmas baby, but as usual, she had to do things a different way. 55 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,959 Right out of the gate, she was a very happy baby. 56 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,339 Always had a smile on her face. She was giggly. 57 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,540 She was just so stinking cute. She really was. 58 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,200 She was a cute baby. 59 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,580 She and Sonny and Kathy, when they were all... They would play a lot together. 60 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,920 At an early age, you could tell that Joni was really enjoying being in the 61 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,720 spotlight, always wanting to entertain people. 62 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:47,780 Joni was always a great self -motivator, but if there was an outside factor that 63 00:04:47,780 --> 00:04:50,820 was motivating her, it was to impress her big sister. 64 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,840 We used to play charades an awful lot, and my grandparents were a really good 65 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:58,960 audience, and she fed into that. 66 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:04,620 She put on these puppet shows, and she'd have the little puppets, and she'd do 67 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:08,980 this, and she'd do that, and she'd be coming out the side and smiling and 68 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,440 blah, blah, and she'd have everybody in stitches. 69 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,160 So we moved an awful lot as children. 70 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:24,300 I can't even tell you how many apartments we moved around in the city 71 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:27,960 was always usually a financial struggle going on of some sort. 72 00:05:28,350 --> 00:05:32,430 Most of her memories from childhood were negative. Her family struggled 73 00:05:32,430 --> 00:05:33,830 financially. They were on welfare. 74 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:38,710 They bounced around from one low -rent apartment to the next. They depended on 75 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:39,890 food stamps a lot of times. 76 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:48,750 There's one thing to be struggling with, not being able to buy the kids clothes, 77 00:05:48,910 --> 00:05:54,890 but there's another thing about the tension and the fear and the horrible 78 00:05:54,890 --> 00:05:56,750 feeling that you feel all the time. 79 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,540 When you're put in those types of circumstances, that you can't hide. 80 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:08,580 Whenever Joni would talk about her life before she found pro wrestling, it was 81 00:06:08,580 --> 00:06:13,240 always one person, and that was Kathy. Not only did they have that sisterhood 82 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:19,180 bond, Kathy was very motherly in a lot of ways, looking after her and being a 83 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:20,180 protector. 84 00:06:20,740 --> 00:06:24,680 I remember that my father was a heavy... 85 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:26,350 He was an alcoholic. 86 00:06:27,630 --> 00:06:32,130 He would go in the hospital and going to visit him and his eyeballs were yellow 87 00:06:32,130 --> 00:06:35,330 from his liver failure. 88 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:39,130 I remember a time that he chased my mom around with a butcher knife. 89 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:44,630 He picked up this, it was a butcher knife, and he started chasing me with 90 00:06:44,730 --> 00:06:45,850 And the cops came. 91 00:06:46,970 --> 00:06:50,170 It was terrible. And you've got three little kids, you know, and they're 92 00:06:50,170 --> 00:06:54,770 screaming and, oh, those are... 93 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Bad days. 94 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:57,840 It was not good. 95 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,380 It was really scary for little kids. 96 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:07,220 There was a lot going on at home, which didn't allow us to really feel secure 97 00:07:07,220 --> 00:07:10,220 there because my brother left home at 16. 98 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,600 Luckily, I was going into college, so I was out of there. 99 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:20,940 And I think Joni, unfortunately, was sort of abandoned by Sonny and I, and 100 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:22,100 was stuck there. 101 00:07:24,719 --> 00:07:29,640 Eventually China's birth parents divorced, and by the time she was 16, 102 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,160 was on her third husband. 103 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,800 If I did ever come home from college or we talked, there was just a great sense 104 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,660 of unhappiness. There was a lot of arguing going on. They were accusing her 105 00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:44,100 doing drugs or hanging out with bad people. 106 00:07:45,020 --> 00:07:47,720 That's when I found what I thought was marijuana. 107 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,180 There was a drug rehab building just down the street from us. 108 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:54,850 And so I told her, I said, come on, we're going to go. 109 00:07:57,610 --> 00:08:02,630 And we went in, and they wanted to take a sample of her urine. So they sent me 110 00:08:02,630 --> 00:08:08,970 into the bathroom with her, and she went in the cup and threw it at me. 111 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:14,850 Just threw it at me. It was very, what's the right word, defiant. 112 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:17,330 Like, all right, take that. 113 00:08:18,050 --> 00:08:22,210 She caught her with some marijuana and just basically picked her out. 114 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,419 Give me a break. 115 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:25,520 I mean, what kid doesn't smoke pot, right? 116 00:08:25,940 --> 00:08:28,440 I just don't like the way that whole thing was handled. 117 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:30,320 I'll go live with my father. 118 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,500 Well, at that time I couldn't stop her. When her mother kicked her out of the 119 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:36,640 house at age 16, she never saw China again. 120 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,740 One thing that really saved China was when she was in high school. 121 00:08:44,490 --> 00:08:48,530 She became interested in lifting weights, and she kind of found a safe 122 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:52,090 the gym. Every day after school, she would pretty much race to the gym and 123 00:08:52,090 --> 00:08:53,090 there until it closed. 124 00:08:54,090 --> 00:08:58,490 I think she felt very comfortable in the gym. It was a place where she could go. 125 00:08:58,530 --> 00:09:02,790 She felt safe. She felt that she wasn't being judged on her appearance. 126 00:09:03,740 --> 00:09:09,280 based on other places where maybe people would say she's too jacked or she looks 127 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,440 weird, she's trying to look like a guy or, you know, whatever. 128 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:15,780 I think being at the gym was really sort of her safe place. 129 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:23,420 When Joni left home, she moved in with my father, Joe Lauer, and I think he 130 00:09:23,420 --> 00:09:25,420 encouraged her to go be her best self. 131 00:09:26,260 --> 00:09:30,220 There was really not a lot of control going on in that house. He sort of said, 132 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:31,660 go do whatever you want to do. 133 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,560 Two years later, she was in college. 134 00:09:36,780 --> 00:09:41,820 She attended the University of Tampa. She graduated from there in 1991, and 135 00:09:41,820 --> 00:09:44,380 definitely was trying to make something of herself. 136 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,360 But at the same time, once she graduated, she still didn't quite know 137 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,780 wanted to do. She was kind of drifting along in life, trying to find her place. 138 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:59,260 She was working all sorts of odd jobs. She tried selling cars at one point. She 139 00:09:59,260 --> 00:10:00,260 went and joined the Peace Corps. 140 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,660 She was doing singing telegrams. She was a cocktail waitress at a strip club 141 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:05,660 called Melon. 142 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:14,620 I don't know exactly what she did. She told me, as her sister, that she was the 143 00:10:14,620 --> 00:10:18,980 hostess. And I took her at face value on that. 144 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,420 And then she got a job. She was hired to work as an airline attendant. 145 00:10:27,050 --> 00:10:30,730 She called me up one night and said, Kathy, I got my first gig. I'm flying 146 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:31,730 of Miami tonight. 147 00:10:32,210 --> 00:10:36,450 She drove to Miami, didn't even get out of the Keys, and she was hit head on. 148 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:40,330 She landed in the hospital. 149 00:10:40,790 --> 00:10:42,390 You know, her car was ruined. 150 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:46,590 Basically, her job was now down the toilet. 151 00:10:46,890 --> 00:10:51,750 And I said to her, Joni, that's enough. Come to New Hampshire. I'll get you a 152 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:53,410 job. We'll live together. 153 00:10:54,350 --> 00:10:58,470 Let's just have you start over again here, and let's do it together as 154 00:11:01,130 --> 00:11:06,130 The childhood China experience really could have depleted a lot of people. It 155 00:11:06,130 --> 00:11:09,430 could have really set a lot of people back, but I think she was determined not 156 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:14,490 to let that get the best of her. I mean, she stared adversity in the face, and 157 00:11:14,490 --> 00:11:16,790 she could have floundered, but instead she flirted. 158 00:11:34,570 --> 00:11:40,430 Met Joni 25 years ago. It was a typical day of work. A good close friend of mine 159 00:11:40,430 --> 00:11:42,710 was the manager of a gym in New Hampshire. 160 00:11:42,970 --> 00:11:47,910 He gave me a call and said, hey, I got one of my aerobics instructors that 161 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:50,950 help. She wants to do her first fitness show. 162 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:57,290 She comes around the corner and she had this big, huge smile, this red hair, 163 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:58,910 full of energy. 164 00:11:59,570 --> 00:12:03,690 I walked away from that interview that day and I couldn't stop thinking about 165 00:12:03,690 --> 00:12:09,300 her. And I know that was very unprofessional of me, but I ended up 166 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:11,920 few days later and I said, listen, I have your plan. 167 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,960 I'm very excited for you. We're definitely going to do really well in 168 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:16,960 competition. 169 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,140 But would you like to go to the movie with me? 170 00:12:21,580 --> 00:12:24,120 And then it blossomed into a relationship. 171 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:31,680 And their relationship really was centered around fitness, physique, 172 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:32,680 out. 173 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:34,280 diet, their food. 174 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,360 I mean, it was all -encompassing in their lives, and they both loved it. 175 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:45,580 As the relationship evolved on a romantic standpoint, on a preparation 176 00:12:45,580 --> 00:12:50,120 just kept going at it harder and better and harder and better. And she was all 177 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,120 in. 178 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:54,340 I'm 5 '9". I'm 170 pounds. 179 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,620 And this is what I have to offer. 180 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,260 We would go to the gym. 181 00:12:59,460 --> 00:13:03,840 Whatever idea I had in my head that week, I would try it on her, and it just 182 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,540 kept working and working and working. 183 00:13:08,620 --> 00:13:10,500 She responded like that. 184 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,900 The numbers that she was putting up in the weight room were just insane. 185 00:13:15,260 --> 00:13:19,460 She could bench press 315 pounds, four reps. 186 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,220 She was instantly getting stronger, instantly growing. 187 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:27,160 Squatting 450 pounds. 188 00:13:27,870 --> 00:13:28,870 10 to 12 reps. 189 00:13:29,970 --> 00:13:32,090 Hard to fap for a female. 190 00:13:32,810 --> 00:13:36,830 People in the gym didn't know what they were looking at. They were doing double 191 00:13:36,830 --> 00:13:38,790 takes. Where did this girl come from? 192 00:13:41,270 --> 00:13:46,330 In retrospect, she really was ahead of her time because when I remember the two 193 00:13:46,330 --> 00:13:51,810 of us going to the gym, there were no jacked women in there. It wasn't a 194 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:56,340 If we would go out to a public place like the mall or we'd go out to eat, 195 00:13:56,460 --> 00:14:01,440 people's heads turned. People noticed she was different. She loved that. 196 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,220 For another time, Joni said, let's go to Boston. We're going to go to a 197 00:14:07,220 --> 00:14:08,220 wrestling match. 198 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,500 And she said, you and I are going to dress up, and we're just going to go, 199 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:15,340 we're going to see what people say about us. 200 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,560 We had our costumes on, and we went in. 201 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:26,960 were looking at us thinking, should I know who these girls are? 202 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,580 And people were turning away from the ring and pointing at these girls in the 203 00:14:30,580 --> 00:14:33,620 stands because their biceps were showing, they looked jacked up. 204 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Anybody that was sitting near us was watching us going, are they going to do 205 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,600 something? 206 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Joni loved it. She was just soaking it up. And Joni would say, isn't this 207 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,540 awesome? People are looking at us. 208 00:14:48,020 --> 00:14:50,720 Someone said to us, you guys really should. 209 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:55,200 Think about being tag team wrestlers. You know, we kind of laughed it off at 210 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,180 time. And on the way home, we were talking about it, and Joni said, you 211 00:14:59,180 --> 00:15:01,400 what, there might be something to that, Kathy. 212 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:04,340 And I said, hell no, I'm not in. 213 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:08,520 And she said, okay, well, I'm going to do it. And at the time, I kind of 214 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,520 laughed, and I'm like, sure. 215 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,240 Okay, go ahead. 216 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,340 And, boy, did she prove me wrong. 217 00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:20,560 Chyna, within days, had looked up Killer Kowalski. 218 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,500 Professional wrestling is the most brutal sport of all, or is it? Believe 219 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:31,180 not, there's a secret school for pro wrestlers, and we got inside. 220 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,000 To learn the secrets of wrestling, you need to go to a place like this, Killer 221 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,060 Kowalski School of Professional Wrestling. 222 00:15:38,260 --> 00:15:44,660 He had the reputation of being tough, hard -nosed, physical -type guy. 223 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,100 Killer Kowalski learned his secrets the hard way, in the ring. 224 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,720 He earned his name Killer by knocking an opponent's ear off, then laughing at 225 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,940 him. There was no nonsense in any of his matches. It was just go in there and 226 00:15:56,940 --> 00:16:01,020 grab a hold and grind your opponent down to the ground. Now, Killer imparts his 227 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:06,200 secrets to a willing audience of Hulk Hogan wannabes. He couldn't stop staring 228 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,420 at Joni. He got up, walked right up to it. 229 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:11,260 And he says, can I help you? 230 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,660 And Joanie's like, well, you know, we heard about your school, and we want to 231 00:16:15,660 --> 00:16:19,720 come in and see what it's all about. And he goes, all right. 232 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,280 So then he jumps in the ring, and he starts doing this claw thing. 233 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,020 He goes, this is what you do. And he, like, puts the claw on some guy, and 234 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:29,040 he body slams him. 235 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,320 And Joanie was just shaking her head. She didn't know what to make of it. 236 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,040 She approached him and said, well, what do I have to do? I'd like to do this. 237 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,300 He goes, all right, $2 ,000. 238 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,840 When we graduate from this school, we are professionals. 239 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,200 Come in here as novices, absolute amateurs, and when they get through, 240 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,200 mean. 241 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:48,820 You know, sign the waiver. 242 00:16:49,060 --> 00:16:51,660 Pay the money. Sign the waiver. Pay the money. 243 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,920 And she was like, I don't have that kind of money on me. 244 00:16:55,180 --> 00:17:00,800 I said, Joni, please, please do this. This will be the greatest thing you ever 245 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,800 do. 246 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:07,050 And he said, OK, I think you're legit. I think you really want to do this. He 247 00:17:07,050 --> 00:17:10,170 said, but I want you to know I'm not going to give you any preferential 248 00:17:10,170 --> 00:17:11,170 treatment. 249 00:17:12,670 --> 00:17:15,109 You're going to go into the ring. You're going to wrestle the guys. 250 00:17:15,390 --> 00:17:17,730 They're going to throw you around. You're going to throw them around. 251 00:17:18,130 --> 00:17:19,270 And it's going to hurt. 252 00:17:19,710 --> 00:17:24,109 When guys get in the ring with a female, there's a little bit of hesitation of 253 00:17:24,109 --> 00:17:26,650 what are you going to do? How hard are you going to swing? 254 00:17:26,890 --> 00:17:27,890 What if you miss? 255 00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:30,530 And you catch one or two potatoes from Joni. 256 00:17:30,860 --> 00:17:33,100 and you realize she's tough enough and she can handle it. 257 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,239 Come here. 258 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,240 You see that? 259 00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:36,940 Stay at home. 260 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:38,640 Do the laundry. 261 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,260 Make some meat, huh? She used to come home with all sorts of bruises, black 262 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:45,260 blue everywhere. 263 00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:48,380 I can manhandle any guy in here. 264 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,460 In a sadistic sort of way, I think she thrived on that, not backing down. 265 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Right here. Get a close -up of that. I want everybody to see that. 266 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,300 I got caught by the best. 267 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:07,200 Now I've wrestled men, I've wrestled women, okay? And I beat them 268 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,780 all. Word started getting around that this girl is crazy. 269 00:18:11,380 --> 00:18:14,580 Anybody else that steps in that ring is going to do the same thing because I'm 270 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:18,260 going to leave them behind me like the trash I left out yesterday morning. 271 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Joni quit her job and she chased wrestling. 272 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,500 She started collecting all the video footage. 273 00:18:26,430 --> 00:18:28,590 pictures. She made her own portfolio. 274 00:18:28,990 --> 00:18:35,110 She spent hours upon hours on a VHS machine with a camcorder making her own 275 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:36,110 promotional video. 276 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:40,130 I spent a lot of hours in the gym bodybuilding and now I'm putting that 277 00:18:40,130 --> 00:18:42,070 bodybuilding to use in the wrestling ring. 278 00:18:42,430 --> 00:18:48,730 Joni right away started making sure she looked television ready and 279 00:18:48,730 --> 00:18:54,770 presented herself as a professional before she got to that level. 280 00:18:57,230 --> 00:19:00,810 And if you're hungry enough and you keep scratching for that food, you get it. 281 00:19:05,890 --> 00:19:10,870 Like pretty much everybody hanging around the wrestling business at that 282 00:19:11,050 --> 00:19:14,510 you know, Joni's goal was very simple. She wanted to be in WWE. 283 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:21,110 She ended up getting in a car with promotional tape, portfolio, everything, 284 00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:22,470 driving down in Massachusetts. 285 00:19:22,830 --> 00:19:24,750 We were coming back from a show. 286 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,600 and we were staying in a hotel at the Springfield Airport, Massachusetts. 287 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,440 One of the agents that I respected most was in there talking to her, and Sean 288 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,760 and I see the sides of her, and we're like, holy... 200 -pound, just jacked 289 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,180 woman. I mean, just had such a stunning presence. 290 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,940 I'll be honest, that was her sales pitch. 291 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,700 So those guys had an eye for talent back then, and when they looked at Joni, 292 00:19:54,990 --> 00:19:55,989 They saw talent. 293 00:19:55,990 --> 00:20:01,190 The more opponents that I can meet, the better I'm going to be. And that's what 294 00:20:01,190 --> 00:20:02,610 my goal is, to be the best. 295 00:20:15,890 --> 00:20:21,610 We had all seen beautiful women, as ballets, as seconds, but no one had ever 296 00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:23,170 seen the likes of Joanie. 297 00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:25,780 I'm not sure who that was supposed to hurt. 298 00:20:25,980 --> 00:20:29,840 All these girls can really take it. Here she comes running right over the road. 299 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,840 You know, before China came on the scene, female wrestling was like the 300 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,920 match. And they called that the match that they put on the card when nothing 301 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,980 really going on, when people would go to the bathroom or go buy popcorn. 302 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,380 That's shampoo in the eyes. 303 00:20:51,860 --> 00:20:58,700 Back then, it was, you know, stupid, silly, paddle on the pole match, bra and 304 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:01,260 panties match, hard and feathered match. 305 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,540 I mean, like, stupid. 306 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:11,440 China came through and busted that glass ceiling and kind of said, you ain't 307 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,440 putting me in a bad light. 308 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,560 I'll take your light and shove it. 309 00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:23,150 Shawn Michaels and Triple H, they were at the top of the pecking order at that 310 00:21:23,150 --> 00:21:24,690 time in the WWE. 311 00:21:25,030 --> 00:21:30,230 So for them to put themselves on the line for Joni, she had to produce. 312 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:34,250 No one's ever done that in the business before. Big jacked up female heater. I 313 00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:37,530 know both of us at the same time were thinking like, ooh, female bodyguard. 314 00:21:38,170 --> 00:21:40,290 We brought it to Vince and he hated it. 315 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:43,430 Oh, come on. No one's going to buy that. 316 00:21:43,790 --> 00:21:45,490 Nobody's going to want to sell for a girl. 317 00:21:46,550 --> 00:21:47,610 You guys are morons. 318 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,460 This was something we both really believed in. We just knew it would work. 319 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:57,860 if she's a screw -up, if she's a ped case, it's on you. It's your fault. 320 00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:02,180 You can have all the credentials in the world if you're a football player, and 321 00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:04,140 they hand you the ball, you better not fumble. 322 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Well, Joni didn't fumble. 323 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,320 Who the hell's that? 324 00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:10,300 Who is that in the world? Is that a woman? 325 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,860 She was an anonymous figure first coming and grabbing Marlena from the crowd and 326 00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:16,860 just this... 327 00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:20,630 physical specimen of a woman, unlike anything I'd ever seen before. 328 00:22:22,170 --> 00:22:28,990 I vividly remember the first time I saw Joni. I was actually in the audience, 329 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:30,010 kind of in disguise. 330 00:22:33,730 --> 00:22:40,050 And we saw Joni come out of the crowd and shake Terry Runnels like a rag doll. 331 00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:53,550 She shook the living dog caca out of me. The smaller I was, the larger 332 00:22:53,550 --> 00:22:56,250 Joni was, the more amazing it looked. 333 00:22:56,470 --> 00:23:02,690 I remember telling her, don't go easy. I would much rather it hurt me tomorrow 334 00:23:02,690 --> 00:23:06,250 than it look like on live TV. 335 00:23:06,590 --> 00:23:11,610 The next morning, we were in the hotel, and I went to turn, and I was like... 336 00:23:11,610 --> 00:23:15,030 It was like I had been... 337 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,940 and some god -awful car crash. 338 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,240 She arrived. 339 00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:25,620 Welcome to the party, girl. You are now officially one of us. 340 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,140 Talk about your psalms. Talk about John 316. 341 00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:36,760 Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass. 342 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,120 If you smash... 343 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Everywhere I go somewhere today, somebody will come up to me and talk 344 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Attitude Era. 345 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:51,480 There was never anything like it to that point, and there will never be anything 346 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,520 like it in the future. 347 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:01,280 WWE had traditionally been a pretty conservative company, but by the late 348 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,900 90s, the presentation had changed. 349 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,620 Limits were being pushed. 350 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:11,360 The Attitude Era pushed every envelope across every line possible. 351 00:24:11,850 --> 00:24:12,850 But that was by design. 352 00:24:13,610 --> 00:24:19,050 WWE was going hard head -to -head against WCW. And at that time, WCW was 353 00:24:19,050 --> 00:24:23,110 winning. They were stealing left and right, taking our superstars. And WWE 354 00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:25,070 to come up with something special, something unique. 355 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:30,190 As WWE was becoming edgier, I think DX was at the forefront of that. 356 00:24:30,410 --> 00:24:36,870 Hunter and Shawn are pretty much at the top of this thing. 357 00:24:36,990 --> 00:24:38,330 That's how she was coming in. 358 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,920 You'd see Hunter and Sean out there acting like immature schoolboys that 359 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,240 be sent to the principal. And then in the back was Chyna. 360 00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:58,840 No nonsense, staring straight ahead at the camera with her arms folded. 361 00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:03,440 She was the straight man that DX needed. Like in comic terms, there's the 362 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,420 straight man, right? Like we needed to have somebody that was like the rudder 363 00:25:08,420 --> 00:25:12,360 for all of the other immaturity to kind of bounce off of and bounce around. 364 00:25:12,580 --> 00:25:14,480 Show us what you're bringing to the barbecue, girl. 365 00:25:20,639 --> 00:25:27,260 Before Joni even debuted in WWE, the company wanted to come up with a name 366 00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:29,660 her, and they pitched a bunch of names her way. 367 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,580 Venus, Fallon, She -Ra, and she didn't like any of those names. 368 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,560 And then she remembered she had known a stripper who called herself Chyna, and 369 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:46,160 she described that Chyna as exotic and intoxicating, and that was kind of what 370 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,360 she was going for. 371 00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:55,070 If Joanie was at ringside, you're watching her as much as you're watching 372 00:25:55,070 --> 00:25:58,190 match. In the beginning, all she had to do was just stand there, and people were 373 00:25:58,190 --> 00:26:01,710 like, well, what's going on with that person right there? What is that? 374 00:26:01,970 --> 00:26:05,470 When she would move, the crowd would react because she never moved. When she 375 00:26:05,470 --> 00:26:09,230 stood there with her arms crossed and those biceps and those delts. 376 00:26:09,490 --> 00:26:10,650 197 pounds. 377 00:26:11,090 --> 00:26:14,790 The woman has a 320 -pound mid -trap. 378 00:26:15,030 --> 00:26:17,030 She's got muscles in places I don't even have places. 379 00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:19,630 That's how she got the name the ninth wonder of the world. 380 00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:23,450 So, of course, Andre the Giant was the eighth wonder of the world. 381 00:26:24,270 --> 00:26:31,190 I mean, he turned heads. He caused you to drop your jaw and say, 382 00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:34,030 wow, I heard he was big, but I didn't know he was that big. 383 00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:37,090 And when you saw China, you did the same thing. 384 00:26:37,690 --> 00:26:38,750 China was dangerous. 385 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:56,530 It wasn't throwing Miss Elizabeth in front, who's, you know, delicate, and a 386 00:26:56,530 --> 00:26:59,070 chivalrous man would never touch Miss Elizabeth. 387 00:26:59,390 --> 00:27:02,290 But, like, you throw Chyna in front, there's a new dynamic, there's a little 388 00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:05,690 confusion. Oh, my God, this woman hit me, and it feels like a man hitting me. 389 00:27:05,690 --> 00:27:06,690 I supposed to hit her back? 390 00:27:10,550 --> 00:27:15,210 In the formative years of Chyna with DX, nobody laid a hand on her. 391 00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:18,950 Striking Joanie was off the table, so we had to be creative. 392 00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:23,420 There's a concern always with your top male wrestlers. Just from a presentation 393 00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:27,820 of a character, you don't want to emasculate them. There's a way to do it 394 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:31,900 the female star can be elevated, but the male star doesn't have to be brought 395 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:32,900 down a notch. 396 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,300 A lot of the pitch was designed around we would make sure that we would take 397 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:44,540 care of those guys so that when she did show offense or look to be beating up a 398 00:27:44,540 --> 00:27:48,660 man, so to speak, we would put them in a vulnerable enough position. 399 00:27:49,390 --> 00:27:52,150 that it seemed plausible for her to be able to do that. 400 00:27:53,910 --> 00:27:54,310 I 401 00:27:54,310 --> 00:28:05,270 remember 402 00:28:05,270 --> 00:28:09,970 one major star just flat out saying, no, I'm not going to let a woman do that to 403 00:28:09,970 --> 00:28:11,750 me. He actually used a more colorful language. 404 00:28:13,170 --> 00:28:18,620 And I kind of stepped up as soon as I had the chance and said, let's... Let's 405 00:28:18,620 --> 00:28:19,620 something. 406 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:30,100 Triple H reversed an Irish whip outside on the floor, and Joni power 407 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,800 slammed me into the stairs. 408 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:39,660 And I believe that opened up a discussion among my colleagues who 409 00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:41,300 Mick will do it, then I guess we can. 410 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:47,300 The thing is that I get paid to not so much to talk, but to... 411 00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:49,280 Kick guys in the nads tomorrow. 412 00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:59,020 At the end of the day, you want to make the best impression you can with your 413 00:28:59,020 --> 00:29:03,580 time in the ring. And I think all of us were well served by having Joni get 414 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:07,780 involved in our matches. I loved it. China's ring debut came as a bodyguard 415 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:11,440 Hunter Hearst Helmsley. But now she's one of the stars of the show. 416 00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:15,770 Most girls shouldn't be wrestling guys, and most girls aren't China. And if you 417 00:29:15,770 --> 00:29:18,890 can find another woman like me, then we'll talk about it. 418 00:29:26,350 --> 00:29:32,910 I don't think anything could have prepared her for... 419 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,300 The speed with which her career took off, it was like the Millennium Falcon. 420 00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:40,680 They're driving through space, and Han Solo hits the pedal, and all of a sudden 421 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,680 they're in warp speed. 422 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Gosh, it was like my head's spinning, getting ready to go on the road again 423 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,280 tomorrow. So this has been a lot of work and a lot of fun. 424 00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:59,500 She was overwhelmed and excited and giddy. She couldn't believe it. She 425 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:00,500 to just pinch herself. 426 00:30:01,340 --> 00:30:03,100 I can't believe I'm actually doing this. 427 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,140 One of the things that a lot of fans don't realize is the camaraderie that is 428 00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:13,060 inside a wrestling company like the WWE. 429 00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:18,120 She found some relationships in DX that she hadn't had as a kid growing up. 430 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,120 When Joni was traveling with the WWE during the height of her fame, Joni 431 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,040 often tell me that these were the people that she could bond with very easily. 432 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,840 I think the acceptance that Joni found in the WWE dressing rooms meant a lot to 433 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,280 her. It was very laid back. It's really like you were at home with your family. 434 00:30:49,580 --> 00:30:53,560 It can sound like a cliche, but in this case it was true. Joni was one of the 435 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,760 boys. We really accepted her. We loved her. We loved having her around. 436 00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:04,100 Like you could be in awe or enamored by her physical appearance. 437 00:31:04,340 --> 00:31:07,700 But when you fell in love with Chyna was when you got to know her. She was very 438 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:08,940 motherly with me. 439 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,660 You know, you're Chyna. 440 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,680 You see this, but you meet her and you just see this. You know what I mean? And 441 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,600 it's just, you just want to hug her. You were enamored by this body, but then 442 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,000 she would giggle and laugh. And it was just like she was this little girl. 443 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,420 For a period of time, my daughter, Noelle, who was four at the time, 444 00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:33,660 Joni to be her very best friend. 445 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:39,860 So I would be backstage a lot, and my dad would go off and do his thing. So 446 00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:43,900 was always the one that would take care of me, hang out with me. 447 00:31:44,260 --> 00:31:49,460 She would do my hair and my nails and just hang out like two best friends. 448 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,320 And it was just adorable. 449 00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:56,420 This magnificent woman who was one of the most popular people in WWE, one of 450 00:31:56,420 --> 00:32:01,380 most... recognizable faces in popular culture at the time, is her best friend. 451 00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:04,280 I don't think people realize what it is that we actually do. 452 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,500 The part that we're in the ring is not really where the work is. 453 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:14,260 The work is traveling 250 days out of the year, trying to keep your body in 454 00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:17,500 shape, trying to deal with life outside the ring. 455 00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:18,900 That's a lot of work. 456 00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:23,360 Joni and Paul were together all the time because they were traveling on the 457 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,120 road. I think they had a lot in common as friends, and it blossomed into a 458 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,120 relationship. 459 00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:33,420 Eighty percent of our relationship encompasses wrestling. 460 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,020 When it all happened, it happened fast. 461 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Me and her were in a serious relationship. 462 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,480 She started going on the road with Paul. 463 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,520 She would go away for four or five days. She would come home for a day or two. 464 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,020 She'd go away for ten days. 465 00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:50,440 She'd be home for a day or two. And it started ripping me apart. 466 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,200 So at some point, we had to have the sit -down, and we just decided, okay, 467 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,420 that's it. We'll go our separate ways, and if at some point 20 years down the 468 00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:02,920 road we can be friends again, we'll do it. 469 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,560 Their relationship just kind of formed, and I don't think any of us knew when 470 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,539 that happened. 471 00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:14,540 I noticed they checked into one hotel room, and I was like, oh, okay, well, 472 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,800 maybe they, because I didn't think they were anything but workout partners and 473 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,800 friends. 474 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:23,310 It was just after a while, you sort of, you know, see them quietly chatting with 475 00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:27,550 each other. It doesn't look like that's a business conversation. 476 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:32,170 I asked Hunter, and Hunter finally said, like, we get the same room every night, 477 00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:35,910 dude. We've been going out for, you know. And I was like, oh, my God, I 478 00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:36,910 even see that. 479 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:41,490 I remember the first time they came to my house as a couple. 480 00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:45,470 They stepped into the back door, and they were like these two giants side by 481 00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:48,550 side. They were larger than life, but they were so happy together. 482 00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:54,910 I think that Hunter was the best friend that she probably never had as a child 483 00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:55,910 growing up. 484 00:33:57,630 --> 00:34:02,850 You could tell. They worked out together. They did everything together. 485 00:34:02,930 --> 00:34:04,210 like, held each other accountable. 486 00:34:10,510 --> 00:34:11,850 A little tiny, tiny bit. 487 00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:13,130 Look, 488 00:34:14,929 --> 00:34:18,190 we'd go to Denny's and I would get moons over my hammy and they would get 12 egg 489 00:34:18,190 --> 00:34:22,409 whites and steamed so -and -so, you know what I mean, and dry wheat toast. 490 00:34:22,690 --> 00:34:26,429 They just did everything together exactly alike. It was almost like, how 491 00:34:26,429 --> 00:34:30,550 they ever have an argument? They both agree that we should do chest and 492 00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:31,550 on Tuesday. 493 00:34:33,449 --> 00:34:35,050 They're both muscleheads, for sure. 494 00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:37,199 very much into bodybuilding. 495 00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:41,900 I'd be on the recumbent cycle and I would just watch them do each other's 496 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:46,980 and chalk up and... They 497 00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:52,920 worked out every day. They wrapped their knees and squatted until they threw up 498 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,060 and said, if you don't throw up when you're doing squats, you ain't doing it 499 00:34:56,060 --> 00:35:01,900 right. I've never met somebody that can train as focused or... 500 00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:06,630 Hard as China does. He was very respectful of Joni, very encouraging of 501 00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:11,970 again, this is another man in her life that accepted her just the way that she 502 00:35:11,970 --> 00:35:18,930 was. If it were not for Paul, she would not have made it as easily in 503 00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:24,450 our industry because Paul marked her up and really taught her what to do, what 504 00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:25,388 not to do. 505 00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:28,430 That is a gift that he gave her. 506 00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:29,790 Attention! 507 00:35:31,810 --> 00:35:37,230 We are D -Generation X, and we will take no prisoners. 508 00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:40,230 Who is the world in professional wrestling? 509 00:35:40,590 --> 00:35:42,370 D -Generation X! 510 00:35:42,590 --> 00:35:46,010 Hold a minute. Wait a minute. 511 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:52,890 I remember Joni saying she was tired of the guys always showing off their 512 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:57,640 butt. Sean and Billy and Hunter all had nice asses, so they would moon the 513 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,740 people. Like, I'm not mooning the people. I got a big zit on my right 514 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,339 like, hair. 515 00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:06,740 Anyway. Did it ever occur to you guys that people are sick and tired of 516 00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:10,960 at your asses every week? Everybody wants to see our ass. What's your point? 517 00:36:19,340 --> 00:36:20,340 She's starting to... 518 00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:24,070 moon people now. And of course, clearly she was in phenomenal shape. 519 00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:28,530 My daughter turned to me and she said, why China's showing her peaches? 520 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:33,030 That was a father daughter talk that I rather would not have had. 521 00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:37,350 It allowed the audience to see a whole different side of her personality. 522 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:42,070 And I think that's when she really started to get over individually because 523 00:36:42,070 --> 00:36:45,050 there was so much there and they were finally getting to see that. 524 00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:49,910 That was all by design, to go very slow, so that in the long run, she was her 525 00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:51,390 own brand, her own commodity. 526 00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:55,710 It's been real hard because I always wanted to break away a little bit. Now 527 00:36:55,710 --> 00:37:00,650 there seems to be this discrepancy about whether we should stay together or 528 00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:03,370 whether we should split. 529 00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:08,110 It broke my heart a little, personally, when we split up. But in professional 530 00:37:08,110 --> 00:37:10,510 wrestling, you don't stay a team forever. 531 00:37:11,890 --> 00:37:16,390 When DX splits and goes its own separate way, China sort of does her own thing. 532 00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:19,230 It's extremely frustrating sometimes. 533 00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:23,550 I would have to stand outside the ring while Hunter did this great stuff. 534 00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:29,630 Every step I take, I'll say, okay, let's try it, but it probably won't be that 535 00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:34,010 good. And then I achieve it, and that will allow me to move to the next level, 536 00:37:34,070 --> 00:37:35,470 the next step, do something else. 537 00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:56,090 It's a marathon, not a sprint, to keep your head above water in WWE and to 538 00:37:56,090 --> 00:37:58,770 really stand the test of time, which Joni did. 539 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:03,930 So I think it was really beneficial to her that she was outside the ring 540 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:08,250 destruction before we saw her actually set foot in the ring as a competitor. 541 00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:10,910 And when she did, she knocked everyone's socks off. 542 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:22,720 From the very beginning, there were no opponents from a female perspective on 543 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,760 her side. But once she started putting together a string of matches, that's 544 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,020 her special athletic ability shined. 545 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:42,800 Power was at the forefront of 546 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Joni's offense. 547 00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:08,820 Ladies and gentlemen, it is now time for the 1990s. 548 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,780 You know, one of the most groundbreaking things that I can remember about Chyna 549 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:22,440 was she was the first woman to enter the WWE Royal Rumble. 550 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:28,740 The first woman ever to enter the Royal Rumble, man. The roof went off in that 551 00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:29,740 place. It was crazy. 552 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:35,920 And the walk down that ring, it's just all purposeful, not cracking a smile. 553 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,420 Her statement was, I'm going to go for the biggest, strongest man in this ring, 554 00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:42,460 and that is Mark Henry. 555 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,760 China gets in the ring, and she throws Mark Henry, the world's strongest man, 556 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,000 out of the ring. 557 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,880 And so it kind of kept being these series of tests. 558 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,320 Can China hang with all these guys? 559 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,360 255 pounds! 560 00:39:58,980 --> 00:39:59,980 It's over! 561 00:40:05,450 --> 00:40:08,930 It's almost like everybody would set me up to fail, but then when I didn't, 562 00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:10,930 they'd be surprised and then want more of it. 563 00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:17,650 You know, when I was a little girl, I only wanted to be a princess. 564 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:21,890 But now I'm all grown up, and tonight, I'm going to be a queen. 565 00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:25,270 King of the Ring. That's the first woman ever to be in the King of the Ring 566 00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:31,030 tournament, and I wrestled her. Road Dogg, you got big brass balls to step in 567 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:32,030 the ring with me. 568 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,720 It was about the spectacle of it, like it's a big muscular woman versus this 569 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:41,720 white trash dude. 570 00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:51,200 She had hit me in a low blow several times in the build up to this. 571 00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:55,960 So that was the infamous, I came prepared. 572 00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:03,780 And as I had my back turned, she slipped in and hit me in the groin again. And I 573 00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:05,100 pulled out the metal cup. 574 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:14,320 We had a competitive match. 575 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,600 And honestly, if a creative decision was made for her to beat me, she could have 576 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,500 beat me all day long. And people wouldn't have batted an eye because 577 00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,500 believable she was. 578 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,600 I mean, she got to the point where she was. 579 00:41:29,050 --> 00:41:35,830 a believable contender for a title. And there came a time when the evolution of 580 00:41:35,830 --> 00:41:37,070 China had to happen. 581 00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:38,470 Who's the heel? 582 00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:42,130 Jeff Jarrett is scheduled to come out here. Well, Jeff Jarrett is scheduled to 583 00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:42,888 meet China. 584 00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:44,390 Double J stepped up to the plate. 585 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:48,330 My name is Jeff Jarrett, and I'm a man's man. 586 00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:53,310 My side of the fence, the way I was handling the females and the women was 587 00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:55,650 have their place, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. 588 00:41:56,270 --> 00:42:00,770 Oh, Jeff Jarrett took that ball and ran with it. He's like, oh, you want me to 589 00:42:00,770 --> 00:42:02,430 be a jerk? Watch this. 590 00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:05,950 Women are only good for three things. 591 00:42:06,670 --> 00:42:10,050 Cooking, cleaning, and making babies. 592 00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:11,610 Oh, it was excellent. 593 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:15,630 All these antiquated stereotypes, like this is trash. This is absolutely 594 00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:20,190 degrading to these ladies. Oh, come on now. It's supposed to make you mad. 595 00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:25,490 You need a good villain to push all those buttons. And it made China the 596 00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:35,790 What took it 597 00:42:35,790 --> 00:42:40,490 to another level was I was the reigning Intercontinental Champion. 598 00:42:40,750 --> 00:42:44,410 You're going to see who's wearing the pants, and then you're going to see 599 00:42:44,410 --> 00:42:46,310 going to be wearing your Intercontinental title. 600 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,920 There was nothing like the build -up to that Intercontinental title match. 601 00:42:50,060 --> 00:42:55,300 You're going to get your rematch all right, but it's going to be the good 602 00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:56,940 housekeeping way. 603 00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:02,960 And we just knew that he was going to get what he deserved, and he did. 604 00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:08,520 A first -ever good housekeeping matchup, King. This was going to be history 605 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,520 -making. 606 00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:15,360 There was that excitement, but I could see there was nerves. 607 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,240 I think she was having some doubts. Am I going to be able to live up to these 608 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,240 expectations? 609 00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:25,220 What is that? Oh, my goodness. 610 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,440 You've been crowned with a seat from the throne. Joni kind of took up the torch 611 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,740 for all of womanhood in that moment. 612 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,100 They literally hit each other with everything, including the kitchen sink. 613 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:43,300 And I just remember the plethora of weapons being used in very unique ways. 614 00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:53,460 You know, somehow the word had gotten out to the fans that it was his last 615 00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:54,460 in the WWE. 616 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,080 So, naturally, everybody's expecting, well, Jeff's going to lose. 617 00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:01,660 China's going to become the first female intercontinental champion. 618 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,680 But then comes the swerve. 619 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,500 Boom! He hits China with the belt. And to everybody's shock and amazement, one, 620 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,940 two, three, Jeff wins. I'll do it! 621 00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:22,390 The place, you could have heard a pin drop. The crowd was shocked. 622 00:44:22,930 --> 00:44:26,650 How dare that dastardly double J do that to us? 623 00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:34,570 The referees determined that, wait a minute, that 624 00:44:34,570 --> 00:44:40,070 championship belt is not a household item. The match should continue. And in 625 00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:43,010 meantime, Chyna grabs Jeff's guitar. 626 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800 I mean, China's standing there with an intercontinental championship. 627 00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:07,080 She's holding it high above her head, and I could tell that she knew that she 628 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,080 was part of history. 629 00:45:08,660 --> 00:45:12,320 I remember standing straight up, and truly the first thought that came to my 630 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,320 mind was, times, they are a -changing. I can only think that, you know, from her 631 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:23,100 story and how many mountains she had to climb to get to that point and how many 632 00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,860 times she was told, no, you're not the right fit. 633 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,440 Of course you're not the right fit. 634 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200 You weren't meant to be the right fit. You were meant to be bigger than that. 635 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:32,118 You're a star. 636 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,940 As the years have gone on and you hear little girls who are now adults say, 637 00:45:38,020 --> 00:45:39,260 yeah, I watched child on TV. 638 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:46,960 She gave me hope because there she was, a woman succeeding in a man's 639 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,640 world. Right now, I'm the reigning intercontinental champion. 640 00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:58,440 That belt means that she's the number two athlete in our industry. We don't 641 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,220 an Intercontinental Championship for women. She said, yeah, yeah, well, you 642 00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:05,540 now, because I'm taking it. What I really think people want to see is a 643 00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:07,500 like me taking some guys. 644 00:46:25,230 --> 00:46:26,230 I'm China. 645 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:27,950 Welcome to my workout. 646 00:46:28,890 --> 00:46:30,250 Don't treat me like a woman. 647 00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:32,710 Don't treat me like a man. 648 00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:36,670 Wrestling is not just a man's game anymore. 649 00:46:38,330 --> 00:46:42,290 I'm probably one of the most recognizable female athletes in the 650 00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:43,290 now. 651 00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:49,250 If I go to India, people know who I am. If I go to Germany, people are there 652 00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:50,310 with posters to sign. 653 00:46:51,230 --> 00:46:52,510 Joni was really beloved. 654 00:46:53,020 --> 00:46:57,180 But in the first couple of years, at least, that love did not extend to the 655 00:46:57,180 --> 00:47:01,500 audience. So I remember on several occasions, she would come back and she'd 656 00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:06,920 a spit that had landed on her. And she took it in stride as being part of the 657 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,500 job. But deep down, she was a woman who always wanted to feel beautiful. 658 00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:17,500 You know, she also had a ton of insecurities and shyness inside and 659 00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:20,140 negative self -image at times because of some of the... 660 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,260 criticism that she would take she'd walk down the entrance ramp and people would 661 00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:30,020 say do you have a penis her fans say she's a great performer her critics say 662 00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:34,480 looks like a pumped up i'm sure you've heard the rumors some people even say 663 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,780 this china used to be a man because you're so muscular have you heard this 664 00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:42,600 before oh please you've heard all of us yeah been there done that before a 665 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:48,060 thousand times really so she's working incredibly hard to achieve this look and 666 00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:52,720 then she's being knocked and teased she was seeing all these wonderful changes 667 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:58,440 in her body but she may not have been seeing the feminine things and some of 668 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,960 those things that could not have been changed without a little help from a 669 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:07,960 surgeon so she took some time off to have a little bit of work done that made 670 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,220 her feel better about herself i sometimes wonder if she knew how the 671 00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:14,480 beauty that she had at that time far 672 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,360 exceeded what you might have seen on the outside. 673 00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:21,080 Funny, the irony is Hunter fell head over heels in love with the first one. 674 00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:28,700 I do not remember 675 00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:33,000 the city we were in, but we were in the dressing room. 676 00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:39,500 Her demeanor was just like, like she wasn't there. 677 00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:44,860 Chyna had her suspicions that Triple H and Stephanie McMahon were in more than 678 00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:46,300 just an on -camera relationship. 679 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,100 You mean the world to me. 680 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,580 I love you more than anything in the world. 681 00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:55,000 So she had found a letter at their house in Hunter's stuff where it just came 682 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:01,120 out and Stephanie admitted that she had feelings for Hunter and it devastated 683 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,220 Chyna. I get out of control too. 684 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,340 Okay. I remember being on either the bike or the Stairmaster. 685 00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:15,260 And she got on the apparatus next to me. We started talking and she broke down 686 00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:16,260 in tears. 687 00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:18,200 I mean, I can't fathom that. 688 00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:24,780 Where I used to be like at the pinnacle and now everyone's whispering and 689 00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:25,780 talking. 690 00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:30,700 It clearly was going to make her future in WWE a lot more cloudy. 691 00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:33,900 Once Chyna and Triple H. 692 00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:38,930 Broke up, you know, in a way, she kind of got pushed down to the women's 693 00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:43,350 division. She started having more matches with females, whether it was 694 00:49:43,350 --> 00:49:48,470 Lita or Trish Stratus, all very accomplished wrestlers, some of the best 695 00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:52,370 history, but also much smaller and not as physically strong as Chyna. Lita's in 696 00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:56,270 deep, deep trouble. Look at the strength of Chyna, the number one winner of the 697 00:49:56,270 --> 00:50:00,110 world. With the women, I think she was a little bit like, ah, this is a night 698 00:50:00,110 --> 00:50:02,270 off. She's been up there a long time. Boom! 699 00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:09,780 It wasn't personal, but she did see that as, like, I've earned this spot, and 700 00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:12,180 I'm not looking to give up my spot lightly. 701 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,560 As much as I respect all of the women in the World Wrestling Federation, and I 702 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,500 do, I felt as of late that I really don't have a whole lot of competition. 703 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:28,320 So instead of pinning my fellow divas, from now on, 704 00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:31,000 I'm just going to have to spank them. 705 00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:36,140 How far can she go working with the men? 706 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,340 Were we going to eventually put her against The Rock or Stone Cold and have 707 00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:43,260 beat her? Like, that's not good for her either, I don't think. 708 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,960 Or are we going to invest in, like we see today, this women's wrestling being 709 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,960 thing in the future? 710 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,460 WrestleMania 17, I think it's probably bittersweet for Chyna because, you know, 711 00:50:57,500 --> 00:51:01,680 she had been used to wrestling men and being in some real high -profile 712 00:51:01,780 --> 00:51:04,780 and now she was wrestling Ivory for the women's title. 713 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,000 Ivory was, like, the most annoying thing on your television at the time. 714 00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:19,940 Ivory didn't stand much of a chance, but it was the way to get the title onto 715 00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:20,940 Chyna. 716 00:51:28,759 --> 00:51:32,840 She did kind of have a lackadaisical pinfall on Ivory, and you almost wonder 717 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,620 she did that on purpose to kind of show the WWE, like, hey, I'm better than 718 00:51:37,620 --> 00:51:38,620 this. 719 00:51:47,150 --> 00:51:51,310 But I just think that was a time in Chyna's life where for the first time 720 00:51:51,310 --> 00:51:55,890 could sense that men were looking at her in a sexual way. They were looking at 721 00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:58,930 her thinking, wow, that lady is hot. And I think she loved it. 722 00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:03,190 She was the double -headed sex symbol. One minute she's picking up and scowling 723 00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:06,450 as she body slams someone, and the next day she's in Playboy. 724 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,200 Joni was approached by Hugh Hackner. There was some talk about her doing 725 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,840 Playboy, and she was all in right from the get -go. 726 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,980 By doing this, and especially by getting the cover and such a big layout, it's 727 00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:32,320 really such a unique opportunity because it shows a very strong, sexy, powerful, 728 00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:35,320 millennium woman, and I believe it's me. 729 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,960 When people told me... 730 00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:42,020 That I was ugly and could never grace the cover or be Playboy material. 731 00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:45,740 Well, I guess that I had to prove them wrong. 732 00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:47,620 Oh, yeah. 733 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,080 And you did it, young lady. 734 00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:51,980 And we're damn proud of you. You ready? 735 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:57,900 Yes, I'm ready. I was so proud of her because I thought she was just 736 00:52:57,900 --> 00:52:58,900 beautiful. 737 00:52:58,980 --> 00:53:04,980 She was feminine. She was athletic looking, confident. 738 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,740 Isn't that what all women want, right? 739 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,980 The Playboy cover that turned out to be the best -selling issue in 10 years. 740 00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:16,440 Now she's being embraced as one of the sexiest women in the world. 741 00:53:19,340 --> 00:53:23,620 It's just one other example of so many of the things that I've been able to do. 742 00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:27,040 I don't know if she could go any higher. You know, on the late -night talk show, 743 00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,880 Jay Leno, cover of Playboy, cover of TV Guide. 744 00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:33,960 There's China, the perfect combination of brawn and beauty. 745 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:39,640 I am China, the superstar. I wrestle in the ring. I am able to do other TV 746 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,060 shows. I've done movies, and I have an autobiography coming out in January. 747 00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:46,600 So she was at the pinnacle of her career. 748 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,020 And unfortunately, when you're at the pinnacle, there's really no place to go 749 00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:52,540 but down. 750 00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:16,670 I just worry sometimes that I dedicate everything to this job and that maybe, 751 00:54:16,850 --> 00:54:21,950 you know, 10 years from now I'm not doing this anymore and I will have not, 752 00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:26,970 know, gotten married or had kids or done things that normal people do. 753 00:54:27,710 --> 00:54:31,850 This is a very short -lived business and I just sometimes think, you know, that 754 00:54:31,850 --> 00:54:36,370 day is going to come for me when I'm going to plan on being here but, you 755 00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:40,010 suddenly I'll be gone and I'll think, now look what I did. 756 00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:43,150 China's contract was up. 757 00:54:43,390 --> 00:54:47,970 So she had to go in and renegotiate. She wanted equal pay to the guys. She was 758 00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:52,390 one of the main faces of the company that she busted her ass to become. 759 00:54:53,090 --> 00:54:57,550 And she wanted the same contract that the other faces of the company had at 760 00:54:57,550 --> 00:55:01,170 time. The Rock, Stone Cold, The Undertaker. 761 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,480 Joni may have just drawn a line in the sand saying, I want a million 762 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:09,480 She thought she deserved it, and the office didn't agree. 763 00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:14,140 This is an historic day because the World Wrestling Federation today is 764 00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:15,140 Wall Street. 765 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,880 Years later, she would tell people that they didn't renew her contract or that 766 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,840 they cut her because Stephanie McMahon was mad at her because of the Triple H 767 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,400 deal, but that's not the case. You know, Chyna was offered a chance to stay in 768 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,820 WWE for a good salary. 769 00:55:29,530 --> 00:55:33,210 And she decided not to do it. And I think that was probably the decision 770 00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:34,610 started her downfall. 771 00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:40,490 I wasn't too particularly happy at how it all ended, how it went down. 772 00:55:40,990 --> 00:55:44,630 I mean, you don't want to see your friends hurt. 773 00:55:45,450 --> 00:55:51,890 I do feel like there was a sense of abandonment that Joni felt because 774 00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:57,650 we did not keep in touch. We, the WWE community, did not keep in touch with 775 00:55:57,650 --> 00:55:58,650 like we used to. 776 00:55:58,830 --> 00:56:02,470 Once you're accepted in the club and there are wrestling clubs, we do look at 777 00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:03,470 each other like family. 778 00:56:03,530 --> 00:56:08,090 And there's an intimacy you can't avoid when you're riding together and, you 779 00:56:08,090 --> 00:56:11,650 know, you're wrestling together, you're getting hurt together. Then being 780 00:56:11,650 --> 00:56:16,290 suddenly torn out of that world, I could see that being difficult to kind of 781 00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:18,550 readjust and get your feet back on the ground. 782 00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:27,650 When Joni left the WWE, she decided that she was going to try to do some acting 783 00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:30,950 and see if she could make go of the whole Hollywood thing. 784 00:56:34,810 --> 00:56:35,810 What? 785 00:56:37,070 --> 00:56:41,130 She was stereotyped as a wrestler, so pretty much any of the roles that she 786 00:56:41,130 --> 00:56:45,370 were as a big, brawny, wrestling type of character. 787 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,800 It was starting to get increasingly harder and harder to keep things going. 788 00:56:56,860 --> 00:57:02,160 It didn't materialize into anything that stuck. 789 00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:03,700 What? 790 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,680 You don't recognize me? 791 00:57:05,940 --> 00:57:12,120 She couldn't legally use the name Chyna because the WWE owned that contract. 792 00:57:12,660 --> 00:57:17,140 WB lawyers have asked us not to refer to this former wrestler by her stage name. 793 00:57:18,350 --> 00:57:23,430 So she couldn't sell herself out in the entertainment world as China. 794 00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:27,550 She had to go by Joni Lauer. Now nobody knows Joni Lauer. 795 00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:31,830 During this period, Joni's spending a lot of time at the Playboy Mansion. 796 00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:35,770 She moved to Hollywood, and all of a sudden, you know, someone that had been 797 00:57:35,770 --> 00:57:40,010 clean, her whole life started dabbling in drugs and alcohol. 798 00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:45,710 She would no -show casting calls because she was hungover or on drugs somewhere. 799 00:57:59,190 --> 00:58:06,190 I think Chyna was longing. 800 00:58:06,810 --> 00:58:10,470 for genuine friendships, and she had trouble finding them. You know, I think 801 00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:14,890 most of the people that she was hanging around were associating themselves with 802 00:58:14,890 --> 00:58:15,930 her because she was famous. 803 00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:24,130 She'd have a couple of gigs, and then they would go away, and then 804 00:58:24,130 --> 00:58:25,130 now what? 805 00:58:30,910 --> 00:58:35,770 Things started going downhill with my wife. I just finally had enough. 806 00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:37,380 And I left. 807 00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:40,840 I had moved out to L .A. I was really brokenhearted. 808 00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:43,320 My grandmother says, Johnny, 809 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,300 like, China's out there. You guys always got along great. You should look her 810 00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:48,300 up. 811 00:58:48,380 --> 00:58:51,600 My grandma had a really track record as a matchmaker. 812 00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:53,600 That was a really bad idea. 813 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,380 I never looked at Johnny like that, I swear to God. Like, before, like, our 814 00:58:59,380 --> 00:59:05,050 relationship blossomed, I never thought twice about... Like, anything 815 00:59:05,050 --> 00:59:10,050 romantically with her. I was in heaven, man. Like, that was, I was, I just 816 00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:11,050 thought, okay, happiness. 817 00:59:12,130 --> 00:59:16,570 And I think she felt that, too, man. Like, it was, like, there was a couple 818 00:59:16,570 --> 00:59:19,930 months there that everything was just, like, heaven. 819 00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:26,350 Joni became involved with Sean, another wonderful guy. Three for three with men. 820 00:59:26,890 --> 00:59:30,470 that loved her, really truly loved her and accepted her the way that she was. 821 00:59:30,590 --> 00:59:37,090 But he was in a bad place, too, so I think two wrongs made a really bad 822 00:59:37,630 --> 00:59:42,210 They really met each other when both of them were at rock bottom. Together, you 823 00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:48,030 know, they just kind of started this downward spiral that lasted for quite a 824 00:59:48,030 --> 00:59:51,530 while. There's that hurt, right? I'm just, I'm hurting. 825 00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:54,350 I'm hurting, and she makes me feel better. 826 00:59:55,150 --> 01:00:00,470 And she's the only thing that, besides like the drugs, I just started getting 827 01:00:00,470 --> 01:00:02,590 into the speed and all that. 828 01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:08,010 And it hadn't, it didn't seem like a big deal at the time. It took a little bit 829 01:00:08,010 --> 01:00:11,710 for that to really like grab ahold of me and kick my ass. 830 01:00:12,250 --> 01:00:15,530 I don't want to cast aspersions on how their relationship was. 831 01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:20,470 From the outside, it looked very toxic and not good for either one of them. 832 01:00:20,650 --> 01:00:24,070 Look, I'm itching and scratching. I'm uncomfortable talking about it because 833 01:00:24,070 --> 01:00:27,170 was just weird to me. And I know it wasn't a good part of their lives. 834 01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:30,150 I was hiding my drug use from her. 835 01:00:30,910 --> 01:00:35,330 And I didn't realize at the time that she was hiding hers from me as well. 836 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:38,610 I was doing drugs in the bathroom, in the shower. 837 01:00:38,830 --> 01:00:40,850 I would spend a lot of time in the shower. 838 01:00:41,310 --> 01:00:43,010 A lot of time in the shower. 839 01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:47,790 And, you know, finally she found the paraphernalia. 840 01:00:50,370 --> 01:00:52,490 Like, I just thought it was over. Like, okay. 841 01:00:54,970 --> 01:00:57,470 Bummer, man. I'm so happy in this, you know. 842 01:00:58,530 --> 01:00:59,870 And now it's all f***ed up. 843 01:01:00,250 --> 01:01:01,490 And she was just like, huh. 844 01:01:02,190 --> 01:01:03,190 Yeah, well, I do this. 845 01:01:06,670 --> 01:01:08,990 So you guys no longer had to hide from each other? No. 846 01:01:09,730 --> 01:01:11,850 No. And that wasn't a very good thing. 847 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,840 So around 2002, a new opportunity presented itself. 848 01:01:32,420 --> 01:01:38,720 After she was invited to leave by WWE, the company New Japan saw her worth and 849 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,280 invited her to come and play with them. 850 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,320 Tokyo Dome sold out 60 ,000 plus people. 851 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,800 Masahiro Chono against female wrestler. This was a huge deal. 852 01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:59,180 Her walking down that ramp, you know, in that beautiful outfit, it was like 853 01:01:59,180 --> 01:02:01,900 nothing that I've seen before, especially in New Japan Pro Wrestling. 854 01:02:02,180 --> 01:02:09,100 He was their number one person in Japan, and she was going toe -to -toe 855 01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:10,100 with him. 856 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:15,400 Chono was like blood coming out of her ear, and her face was red. 857 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,400 Chono won the match. 858 01:02:19,930 --> 01:02:24,570 Even with him winning, she really was the star of the match completely. 859 01:02:25,030 --> 01:02:26,330 Obviously the star of the show. 860 01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:32,170 Let me wait until everybody's in here to tell you that I didn't lose that match 861 01:02:32,170 --> 01:02:35,910 because I beat his ass in front of all of his fans. 862 01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:42,630 I can remember sitting in the corner watching her interview and how proud she 863 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:45,630 was. Realistically, I was quite honored to fight Chunk. 864 01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:46,910 He's the best. 865 01:02:53,319 --> 01:02:56,780 When she came home, I really noticed that she was different. 866 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,420 I couldn't have a regular conversation with her. 867 01:02:59,660 --> 01:03:02,100 She would be calling me at all hours of the day and the night. 868 01:03:02,420 --> 01:03:05,900 The drug use sort of escalated. I knew there was a problem. 869 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,740 She kind of stopped training with us. We just kind of saw less and less of her 870 01:03:10,740 --> 01:03:13,940 until eventually it was just like, oh, we're not doing business with China 871 01:03:13,940 --> 01:03:20,060 anymore. I think the change really began after her run in Japan was over. I wish 872 01:03:20,060 --> 01:03:25,220 she had gone about establishing herself on the independent circuit. She would 873 01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:29,720 have been a huge draw everywhere she went. But she kind of gave up on 874 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,720 after that. 875 01:03:31,140 --> 01:03:33,900 And in a sense, it felt like wrestling gave up on her. 876 01:03:37,740 --> 01:03:43,100 For two or three years, between about 2003 and 2005, China and Xbox were doing 877 01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:45,180 lot of drugs together. They were doing crystal meth. 878 01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:47,200 I think they called it ice. 879 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,400 She said it keeps her up for days on end. She can get so much done. 880 01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:54,500 And then when she did fall asleep, she would crash. 881 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,060 That's kind of how the two of them were living. 882 01:03:57,420 --> 01:04:01,840 We were doing the same exact drugs, but I had graduated to the needle, and that 883 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,480 really bothered her. 884 01:04:04,810 --> 01:04:07,270 Oh, it is a great recipe for disaster. 885 01:04:07,930 --> 01:04:11,750 Now you've got two people, and so you've got to buy twice the dope, and so 886 01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:14,870 you've got to get twice the money. And so now we're willing to do anything. 887 01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:51,690 Eventually, China and Xbox, you know, had sexual intercourse. They filmed it. 888 01:04:53,230 --> 01:04:55,710 Ended up selling that film. 889 01:04:56,410 --> 01:04:57,910 The worst idea ever. 890 01:04:58,390 --> 01:05:03,170 I mean, we're both just... People that have been there, as far as drug -wise 891 01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:06,390 knows, like, your inhibitions and all that goes out the window. 892 01:05:06,770 --> 01:05:12,710 I don't think there's anybody 893 01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:14,990 that is... 894 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,700 Really proud of that. I think you do that out of necessity. You look around 895 01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:23,400 say, well, where else am I going to make this kind of money? 896 01:05:24,020 --> 01:05:28,940 It ended up a deal being done with the same people that did the Tommy Lee, 897 01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:31,140 Pamela Anderson tape. 898 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,960 My initial reaction was horror. 899 01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:37,020 Black? Yeah. 900 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,360 All right. 901 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,280 Secondly, I thought, that's not the real Joni. That's just, that's drugs. 902 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:48,300 She was grasping for straws to get money, to get publicity. 903 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,440 I don't know if Joni ever outran the shame of it. 904 01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,700 Things had progressively gotten worse, and I knew, like, I was in rough shape 905 01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:05,420 too, and at least, like, realized, like, I need help myself. I can't help 906 01:06:05,420 --> 01:06:09,520 anyone. She got to the point where I was so worried about her drug use. 907 01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:14,140 And Sean was worried about her drug use, that he actually called me and said, 908 01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:17,300 you need to come out here and try to get Joni into a rehab. 909 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:22,500 So I actually got on a plane. I showed up at her door. She had no idea I was 910 01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:27,060 coming. And as I opened the door, there's Kathy right in front of me. 911 01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:28,340 Classic intervention. 912 01:06:28,660 --> 01:06:31,200 Joni, I think you've got a problem. I really, really love you. 913 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,360 Please do this for me. 914 01:06:33,860 --> 01:06:35,800 Will you consider going to rehab? 915 01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,260 I somehow managed to drag her butt on a plane. 916 01:06:39,770 --> 01:06:41,250 to this place in Arizona. 917 01:06:41,690 --> 01:06:48,510 She got there, and they gave her the papers to sign in, and she said nope 918 01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:50,210 and walked out the door and left. 919 01:06:50,810 --> 01:06:52,910 And that was the end of our relationship. 920 01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:57,410 From then on, Joni wasn't really speaking to me anymore because she was 921 01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:59,050 at me for trying to do this. 922 01:06:59,890 --> 01:07:04,810 Of all the people, like damage and all that, Kathy was hurt the worst of anyone 923 01:07:04,810 --> 01:07:06,210 besides Joni herself. 924 01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:15,810 I think all of that, like, spun her into a downward spiral, and I don't know if 925 01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:16,830 she ever kicked out of it. 926 01:07:17,490 --> 01:07:21,970 It wasn't so much, like, coke or anything at this point. It was 927 01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:28,370 pills. It was alcohol and, like, Xanax. They would go on these massive drug 928 01:07:28,370 --> 01:07:32,310 binges where they would get in fights. At one point, she punched him and broke 929 01:07:32,310 --> 01:07:36,390 his nose. Another time, she allegedly attacked him in front of his kid. 930 01:07:36,670 --> 01:07:38,250 It got to the point where... 931 01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:44,220 He drove her to Cedars -Sinai Medical Center in 2005 and dropped her off and 932 01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:46,340 said, this girl needs help. 933 01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:49,460 I never saw her again. I never saw her in person again. 934 01:07:49,860 --> 01:07:52,360 It was hard for a long time after that. 935 01:07:54,020 --> 01:08:00,960 Within months, Chyna went from being in People magazine and TV Guide 936 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,240 to getting lampooned on TMZ. 937 01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:13,490 Cruel. It's cruel. I know. I'm sorry. I'm a man -eater. 938 01:08:14,810 --> 01:08:21,529 Cruel. I had found a niche at that time and phase of my life where I was placing 939 01:08:21,529 --> 01:08:25,490 celebrities on these celebrity -based reality shows. 940 01:08:25,830 --> 01:08:30,229 And I had a slew of them. I knew if I saw her on TV at that period in time, it 941 01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:31,229 was going to be a train wreck. 942 01:08:33,050 --> 01:08:37,189 No one wants to be the boring person on a reality show. 943 01:08:38,109 --> 01:08:43,330 But I think she overplayed it to the point where it was hard to tell where 944 01:08:43,330 --> 01:08:45,609 old Joanie ended and this new Joanie began. 945 01:08:46,830 --> 01:08:53,790 When you're tuning into Celebrity Rehab, specifically because 946 01:08:53,790 --> 01:08:57,630 you know someone who's on there, that's a bad sign. 947 01:08:58,370 --> 01:09:00,790 What scares you most about being here? 948 01:09:01,050 --> 01:09:03,569 The confusion of why I'm here. 949 01:09:03,870 --> 01:09:07,090 It is sad when your heroes let you down. 950 01:09:08,419 --> 01:09:13,859 It's a bummer. For about 10 years, China just continued to go through ups and 951 01:09:13,859 --> 01:09:19,600 downs and peaks and valleys. But things actually got so bad around 2012 that her 952 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,420 friend got worried about her, went over to check on her. China was in an 953 01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:24,560 apartment with no furniture. 954 01:09:24,819 --> 01:09:28,620 There was an air mattress on the floor that she was sleeping on with no sheets. 955 01:09:29,060 --> 01:09:30,760 The apartment reeked of whiskey. 956 01:09:31,380 --> 01:09:32,960 There was cigarette butts everywhere. 957 01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:36,439 She answered the door with heavy eyelids, reeking of alcohol. 958 01:09:37,050 --> 01:09:41,890 At that point, her friend said, Joni, you're coming with me. I'm taking you 959 01:09:41,890 --> 01:09:44,970 to Hawaii, and we're going to get your life in order. I'm not taking no for an 960 01:09:44,970 --> 01:09:49,010 answer. China packed up her stuff, went to Hawaii, and tried to make some 961 01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:50,010 changes. 962 01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:07,520 Joni spent a very brief period in Hawaii, and then she... packed up her 963 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,520 and moved to Japan. 964 01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:09,700 There we are. 965 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,220 Learn English with me. 966 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,360 She got her head straight. She was teaching these Japanese kids English. 967 01:10:16,580 --> 01:10:18,500 I'm getting used to living in Japan. 968 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,780 I almost felt, for the first time, a sense of relief. 969 01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:27,000 This is what she needs. She needs, like, a boring schedule that just gives her 970 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,300 somewhere to be, something that's helping others and giving her a purpose. 971 01:10:34,020 --> 01:10:35,760 Joni loved Japan. 972 01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:39,870 She loved it. She loved going there. She loved the culture. She loved the 973 01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:40,870 people. 974 01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:45,750 This is kind of like a little scrapbook from people that were in Japan with her. 975 01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:52,670 This means a lot to me because it tells me how these people knew her not as 976 01:10:52,670 --> 01:10:53,670 a wrestler. 977 01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:54,970 She looks happy. 978 01:10:55,150 --> 01:10:56,310 She looks very happy. 979 01:10:58,130 --> 01:11:05,130 I don't think China got any better in Japan. I think she got worse. 980 01:11:07,180 --> 01:11:11,960 Within a couple of weeks, you know, she was found on her kitchen floor with deep 981 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,520 cuts in her forearms, and she had to be rushed to the hospital. 982 01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:19,740 It's only recently I found out that they prescribed her some medication because 983 01:11:19,740 --> 01:11:24,280 she was in a severe depression. I'm just sitting here in an empty room in the 984 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,280 boiling heat. 985 01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:29,060 To the point where she tried to take her life by attacking a policeman. 986 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:35,040 And police in Japan don't carry firearms, or else it may have been a 987 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,040 story. 988 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,200 A group of police officers tackled her, put her in handcuffs and took her to a 989 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,179 mental asylum. 990 01:11:41,180 --> 01:11:43,600 The incidents cost China her job. 991 01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:50,980 I figured the one way that I can get China back to the state 992 01:11:50,980 --> 01:11:57,240 and do something with her is bring back the idea of reconstruction of China, 993 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:02,520 which back in the mid 2000s was a reality show that we were pitching. So 994 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,980 to make sure that you are provided. 995 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:09,180 With the lifestyle and the people that you're surrounded with, that is only 996 01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:12,720 going to bring you joy and happiness from now until the day you die. Let's 997 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,720 make it a documentary. 998 01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:15,460 We'll film a year of her life. 999 01:12:17,380 --> 01:12:19,940 Eventually, she did get out of there, and that's when she flew back to the 1000 01:12:19,940 --> 01:12:21,980 United States to try to make her documentary. 1001 01:12:22,740 --> 01:12:24,020 She's going to face her demons. 1002 01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:28,460 She's going to be put in some very uncomfortable situation. 1003 01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:32,120 Basically, what Anthony was trying to design was like a... 1004 01:12:32,380 --> 01:12:36,680 B -level version of the resurrection of Jake the Snake Roberts. 1005 01:12:36,940 --> 01:12:41,960 If you want to stay with us, you don't drink ever again in the presence of us, 1006 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:48,900 period. So when was the last time you put some scissors or some knives to 1007 01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:52,440 your... It smelled fishy right from the get -go. She thought she was going to 1008 01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:53,440 make a fresh start. 1009 01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:57,140 All it really did was bring everything right, bubble right back up to the 1010 01:12:57,140 --> 01:12:58,140 surface again. 1011 01:13:03,150 --> 01:13:04,830 I feel pretty tired. 1012 01:13:05,050 --> 01:13:06,050 That's what we charge. 1013 01:13:06,650 --> 01:13:08,010 $100 for the two. 1014 01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:14,010 Jet lag is starting to set in now. I'm still assimilating just being in the 1015 01:13:14,010 --> 01:13:17,990 United States. She did her first Comic -Con in Long Island. Mick came up to her 1016 01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:21,010 and they hugged for like five minutes in tears and whatnot. 1017 01:13:21,450 --> 01:13:26,390 Hi, Joni. She wrapped her arms around me. It was like I'd rediscovered a great 1018 01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:29,730 friend. I'm about 35 minutes away from here. Do you want to come over and have 1019 01:13:29,730 --> 01:13:30,730 dinner with the police? 1020 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,860 My dad called and he said, yeah, Joni's coming over. And I'm like, what? 1021 01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:40,160 Like, she is? 1022 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,100 I got the 1023 01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:50,100 sense. I 1024 01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:56,740 wish she had not agreed to have 1025 01:13:56,740 --> 01:13:58,640 her journey documented. 1026 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,240 We are here to tell you about a very special project. 1027 01:14:02,350 --> 01:14:03,950 It's called the reconstruction of China. 1028 01:14:04,210 --> 01:14:06,010 Joni showed me her upcoming schedule. 1029 01:14:06,430 --> 01:14:08,430 You went away for, what, four years? 1030 01:14:08,650 --> 01:14:13,690 And I just felt like she was diving into the deep end of the pool when she 1031 01:14:13,690 --> 01:14:17,650 should have been dipping her toes into the shallow end. Suddenly, I wasn't 1032 01:14:17,650 --> 01:14:21,730 remembered for, like, all the great things I did in wrestling, but, like, 1033 01:14:21,730 --> 01:14:22,730 become this monster. 1034 01:14:22,810 --> 01:14:26,330 I voiced my concern. Like, that's all you can do is give a friend the best 1035 01:14:26,330 --> 01:14:28,270 advice you can and let them know. 1036 01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:32,080 You were there for them. The documentary ended up being just a series of 1037 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,780 manufactured events that would look good on TV. 1038 01:14:35,140 --> 01:14:37,960 We're about to go into the headquarter office of WWE. 1039 01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:39,460 We're going to ask for Hunter. 1040 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,180 We're going to ask for Vince. 1041 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:42,640 We're driving cross -country. 1042 01:14:42,980 --> 01:14:45,120 Let's stop by and see if they owe you any money. 1043 01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:46,600 Harmless to me. 1044 01:14:46,860 --> 01:14:52,200 And he goes in with a camera person and forces a meeting at the WWE headquarters 1045 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,660 without no appointment. 1046 01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,380 And we were asked to simply leave. 1047 01:14:56,750 --> 01:14:58,690 We were not greeted favorably. 1048 01:14:59,250 --> 01:15:02,650 Everybody was staring right at me. I got a couple smiles. 1049 01:15:02,930 --> 01:15:07,350 She was in no mental shape to take on that kind of schedule or that kind of 1050 01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:14,350 spotlight. Now this morning, we are on our way to Miami, where my father 1051 01:15:14,350 --> 01:15:15,350 is buried. 1052 01:15:15,490 --> 01:15:20,690 There were a lot of people that wanted to help her, and she was very good at 1053 01:15:20,690 --> 01:15:23,290 keeping a distance and not letting people back in. 1054 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,840 And she certainly did that with me. You told me all those things, but then you 1055 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,840 were never there. 1056 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,920 I don't know why. I mean, I think, unfortunately, Joni probably suffered 1057 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,960 some mental illnesses at a very young age that went undiagnosed, undetected. 1058 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:43,440 They certainly exacerbated all the problems that she had later in her life. 1059 01:15:43,820 --> 01:15:44,820 Hey! 1060 01:15:45,660 --> 01:15:51,440 90 % of the time, China was incredible, down -to -earth, hilarious. 1061 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,740 Unfortunately, there was still that 10 % to 20 % side that wanted to be a diva, 1062 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,240 that wanted to get house. 1063 01:15:58,660 --> 01:16:01,020 Anthony showed up, and he went like this. 1064 01:16:02,380 --> 01:16:09,360 He took some pictures and some markers at me, and like, like, what the f***? 1065 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,680 Who the f***? 1066 01:16:11,839 --> 01:16:15,960 So she never really felt like she had a problem, an addiction problem. 1067 01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:18,580 But she obviously did. 1068 01:16:21,860 --> 01:16:28,300 She would binge sometimes 17 straight days. She'd probably sleep two of those. 1069 01:16:34,030 --> 01:16:36,870 Having a hard time eating. I need some help. 1070 01:16:37,190 --> 01:16:42,290 What do you want? Can you help me? You have to remember, Joni was fragile. 1071 01:16:42,690 --> 01:16:48,290 I'm trying to, bitch! As powerful as she was, she was dealt a bad hand. And the 1072 01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:52,050 right people were not there for her in the right place at the right time. 1073 01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:57,330 I spent a long 10 years, 15 years. I don't know how long. 1074 01:16:57,690 --> 01:16:58,690 No. 1075 01:16:59,330 --> 01:17:01,290 But I'm tired. 1076 01:17:06,860 --> 01:17:08,200 Retina, I'm a champion. 1077 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,520 Don't treat me that way. 1078 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:22,500 She leaves a voicemail. Hey, guys, I'm going to seek rehab. I'm going to try to 1079 01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:24,860 clean myself up. And don't tell Anthony. 1080 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,180 A day or so went by. 1081 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,780 She wasn't responding to texts. She no -showed an appointment. 1082 01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:34,840 She probably had a big bender right before she went to rehab. A lot of 1083 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:35,840 do that. 1084 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,840 He went over, snuck in past the security gate at the apartment, went up to her 1085 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,480 floor, and the door was unlocked. 1086 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:50,200 He walks in conveniently with another guy filming on a camera phone behind 1087 01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:53,600 I think he knew once the door was unlocked and he could just walk in 1088 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,360 something might not be good. 1089 01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:13,360 China was found dead here at her apartment in Redondo Beach, California. 1090 01:18:13,900 --> 01:18:18,420 A friend told cops that China hadn't answered her phone in days and came to 1091 01:18:18,420 --> 01:18:21,300 check on her. That's when the friend found her lying in bed. 1092 01:18:21,540 --> 01:18:25,700 I was in Atlanta airport and it was on the news. 1093 01:18:25,980 --> 01:18:30,900 The news came in and I burst into tears, burst into tears. 1094 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:37,320 It was a combination of alcohol and sedatives. You do anything in excess, 1095 01:18:37,580 --> 01:18:38,580 you're... 1096 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,480 you're likely to pay, and in this case, it cost her her life. 1097 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:51,760 She was so much more than just another celebrity gone from 1098 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,960 an overdose. 1099 01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:55,020 She was way more than that. 1100 01:18:55,300 --> 01:19:00,860 I think I mourned her death years before she actually died. You know, when she 1101 01:19:00,860 --> 01:19:05,500 died, it was horrible, but I remember also thinking, thank God this woman 1102 01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:06,500 finally has some peace. 1103 01:19:12,049 --> 01:19:16,750 The memorial service for China was like nothing I've ever seen. It seemed like 1104 01:19:16,750 --> 01:19:19,790 more of a production than a memorial service. 1105 01:19:20,190 --> 01:19:24,050 The goal was, let's get a bunch of celebrities here, let's sell some 1106 01:19:24,150 --> 01:19:27,550 let's sell some shirts, and do something that people are going to talk about. 1107 01:19:28,050 --> 01:19:29,710 They sold tickets for that? 1108 01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:32,710 Oh, hell, really? 1109 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,000 that memorial show was a low -rent hot mess. 1110 01:19:43,380 --> 01:19:46,720 Yes, I was invited. No, I did not attend. 1111 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,120 In my opinion, it was a joke. 1112 01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:53,100 When he held up the urn and he said, The bitch is in the house! 1113 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,680 I was mortified. 1114 01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:03,840 This urn was custom -made. It's got her classic colors, and the font is similar 1115 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,640 to what she sort of... 1116 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,980 was using towards the end. And I think that she would really, really love this. 1117 01:20:11,260 --> 01:20:12,580 This is China. 1118 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:19,060 The morning after the memorial service, a small group of people went out on a 1119 01:20:19,060 --> 01:20:22,980 boat and spread China's ashes into the Pacific Ocean. 1120 01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:27,820 The horizon where the sky meets the ocean is three miles. 1121 01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:33,700 No matter where you are in the ocean. We did it exactly three miles out of her 1122 01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:37,930 apartment. So that if you go to her apartment and you stand out and look 1123 01:20:37,930 --> 01:20:39,190 the ocean, you're with her. 1124 01:20:44,650 --> 01:20:50,270 Here's this famous woman who not long ago was on The Tonight Show, a woman who 1125 01:20:50,270 --> 01:20:55,710 was on billboards and in Playboy. And now I'm on this boat and no one that's 1126 01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:59,030 here toward the end of her life other than Anthony really knew her. And it was 1127 01:20:59,030 --> 01:21:01,690 just a sad thing, but it also just kind of illustrated. 1128 01:21:02,740 --> 01:21:05,480 All the problems that were in her life. That was the issue. She didn't have any 1129 01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:06,480 close friends. 1130 01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:17,600 If I had the chance to talk to her again, I would have reiterated that I 1131 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,460 her and I was there for her. But more importantly, I would have backed it up 1132 01:21:20,460 --> 01:21:21,459 with my actions. 1133 01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:24,880 There always seemed to be a tomorrow until there wasn't. 1134 01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:30,370 I got some people in my life I'd love to have one more opportunity with, and I 1135 01:21:30,370 --> 01:21:34,310 would love one more opportunity with her. I'd love to have dinner. I'd love 1136 01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:38,410 have lunch, have a conversation, have a coffee, anything with her, and just 1137 01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:40,270 spend some time and laugh. 1138 01:21:40,770 --> 01:21:44,630 Sorry. She was so funny, man. She was so fun to be around. 1139 01:21:45,170 --> 01:21:46,170 I just miss her. 1140 01:21:48,970 --> 01:21:52,830 I didn't do that. I didn't call her and say, hey, guess what I'm doing now. 1141 01:21:53,290 --> 01:21:54,290 Thank you. 1142 01:21:55,280 --> 01:22:01,840 Maybe that phone call would have let her have one less drink. 1143 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,080 Let her have one less bump. 1144 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:11,280 There's a lot to put on myself, but you know, you always wonder. 1145 01:22:11,980 --> 01:22:14,180 Because she meant a lot to me. 1146 01:22:14,740 --> 01:22:17,200 She meant a lot. Can we take a break? Let's take a break. 1147 01:22:19,820 --> 01:22:24,900 We'd like to welcome you to the 2019 WWE Hall of Fame ceremony. 1148 01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:30,180 I was asked to go to the Hall of Fame induction for DX, of which Joni was a 1149 01:22:30,180 --> 01:22:36,020 part. I have never, ever attended anything like that in my entire life. 1150 01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:39,160 all, the WWE, if they do it, they do it big. 1151 01:22:39,620 --> 01:22:42,400 Joni was on everybody's mind that night. 1152 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,740 Her legacy goes way beyond our industry. In some manner, I look at her during 1153 01:22:47,740 --> 01:22:48,740 that time frame. 1154 01:22:49,290 --> 01:22:56,050 has like this paradigm shift of the thinking of how people saw women and 1155 01:22:56,050 --> 01:23:02,490 of power and what women can do with that power. It's fitting in this moment that 1156 01:23:02,490 --> 01:23:06,710 at WrestleMania tomorrow night, the women will headline WrestleMania for the 1157 01:23:06,710 --> 01:23:07,710 first time in history. 1158 01:23:08,450 --> 01:23:13,490 And the night before that, probably the most impactful woman to ever step foot 1159 01:23:13,490 --> 01:23:16,430 in this ring gets inducted into the Hall of Fame. 1160 01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:18,570 She set the table for... 1161 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:24,680 Every woman that came after her, for me personally, she encouraged me. She 1162 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:29,280 believed in me, and she told me any dream I had, anything I wanted to do in 1163 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:34,780 company, that I could do that. I feel sad that Joni didn't really get to see 1164 01:23:34,780 --> 01:23:38,820 much she meant to these next generations, myself being one of them. 1165 01:23:38,820 --> 01:23:41,780 those good things she did often get forgotten about, and that's what 1166 01:23:41,780 --> 01:23:44,740 happen. I just wish history had not taken so long. 1167 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,900 to recognize her contributions. 1168 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,940 I wouldn't be where I am without her in my career. 1169 01:23:50,180 --> 01:23:51,900 The ex wouldn't be where it is. 1170 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:57,340 I see her so differently than her China persona. To me, she's not China. To me, 1171 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,500 she's Joni. I really miss her every single day. 1172 01:24:01,420 --> 01:24:02,460 Gabby, she's here. 1173 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,200 She's here. 1174 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,280 The real her. 1175 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,300 You know, Mick Foley had always told his daughter, Noelle, back when she was 1176 01:24:39,300 --> 01:24:43,200 about four, that China was strong. Oh, there's no one stronger than China. I 1177 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:48,240 remember saying to my dad, Joni is strong like dolphin, or she's maybe even 1178 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,260 stronger than dolphin. 1179 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,600 That was my daughter's gauge on strength. 1180 01:24:53,820 --> 01:24:58,500 So if you were up there with dolphins, you were doing really well in my 1181 01:24:58,500 --> 01:24:59,500 daughter's mind. 1182 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:04,180 We all kind of found a place on the boat. We were getting ready to drive 1183 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,920 All of a sudden, someone goes, oh, my gosh, look at these dolphins. 1184 01:25:08,420 --> 01:25:11,380 And everyone hopped out from their seat and went over to the side of the boat, 1185 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,060 and there was literally like four or five dolphins on the side of the boat, 1186 01:25:16,060 --> 01:25:18,160 of like escorting the boat back to the dock. 1187 01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:21,380 And then someone said, they're over here, too. And, like, I ran over to the 1188 01:25:21,380 --> 01:25:25,960 other side, and there was four or five more just flanking the boat, guiding us 1189 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:26,960 back to shore. 1190 01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:29,220 Jason was there to document it. 1191 01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:30,500 Dolphins emerged. 1192 01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:31,660 Wow. 1193 01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:33,260 Dolphins emerged. 1194 01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:34,870 during the sprinkling of the ashes. 1195 01:25:36,150 --> 01:25:37,930 It's actually fitting, I think. 1196 01:25:38,170 --> 01:25:43,530 I felt like those dolphins were kind of China's way of saying, hey, 1197 01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:45,490 I'm good. 1198 01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:46,750 I'll be okay. 112658

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