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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,490 --> 00:00:03,930 We interrupt your regularly scheduled program for the special report. 2 00:00:04,970 --> 00:00:09,810 I've never seen a more controversial entity than D -Generation X. 3 00:00:10,050 --> 00:00:10,969 Here we go. 4 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:15,590 In three, two... Good evening, my fellow Americans. 5 00:00:15,990 --> 00:00:22,650 This past week, D -Generation X was... This past week, D -Generation X 6 00:00:22,650 --> 00:00:23,569 a full sentence. 7 00:00:23,570 --> 00:00:28,860 If you took a group of great athletes, stuck them in a frat house... Mix that 8 00:00:28,860 --> 00:00:33,520 with a bunch of I don't give a **** attitudes and stir vigorously. 9 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:35,840 You get DX to come out of it. 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Generation X was the counterculture, anti -establishment crew inside WWE. 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:49,420 They were rat pack for a millennium. We're total badasses. We're gangsters. 12 00:00:49,740 --> 00:00:55,740 You had Triple H, Shawn Michaels, X -Pac, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg, and of 13 00:00:55,740 --> 00:00:56,740 you had Chyna. 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,880 Their entire purpose was to push the boundaries and make you uncomfortable 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,620 entertain the hell out of you in the process. 16 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:08,540 We were just six degenerates having a great time, and you were welcome to come 17 00:01:08,540 --> 00:01:11,940 aboard and have a good time with us. And if you didn't, we had two words for 18 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:17,420 you. Suck it! Suck it! It became a battle cry. We got two words for you! 19 00:01:17,820 --> 00:01:18,679 Suck it! 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,580 Let's get rid of those suckers! 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,740 Degeneration X was cocky, arrogant, egotistical, and they were cool. 22 00:01:26,430 --> 00:01:30,470 DX was as much a part of 90s American pop culture than anything else. 23 00:01:30,750 --> 00:01:33,730 It was like the Beatles, no matter where they went. 24 00:01:33,950 --> 00:01:37,210 When you're in the midst of it, it's like you're in a drug -addled violent 25 00:01:37,210 --> 00:01:39,390 tornado that just carried you along. 26 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:45,990 I got caught up. I got lost in the limelight. For a guy that didn't need 27 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:50,330 excuses to spiral down to a bad place, that was it. 28 00:01:50,750 --> 00:01:55,890 We were unfireable. So I pushed the limits of everything as far as I 29 00:01:55,890 --> 00:01:58,470 could. Then you fall into a dark spot. 30 00:01:58,730 --> 00:02:03,790 We all have our demons. It robs you of your soul. 31 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:07,930 We've all gotten through that. 32 00:02:08,610 --> 00:02:11,070 Man, we are blessed to be alive. 33 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:18,590 There used to be more of us. They define maybe the most memorable time ever in 34 00:02:18,590 --> 00:02:19,590 WWE. 35 00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:23,510 Some of it felt a little childish, a little crass, but it was a necessary 36 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:28,050 revolution. It was a transformation of what we're allowed to do on TV. 37 00:02:28,650 --> 00:02:30,230 Should we be doing that now? 38 00:02:30,490 --> 00:02:35,190 No. There's no real place for a Degeneration Act today, as far as I'm 39 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:41,110 But it is fun to look back on. You will never forget 40 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:44,130 Degeneration Act. 41 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:46,570 Try not to take any of it too serious. 42 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,380 We are back with more Monday Night Raw. 43 00:02:57,820 --> 00:03:02,580 Everything has an expiration date. And in the early 90s, WWE was just sort of 44 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:06,200 plugging along, trying to use a lot of the same tricks that had gotten them to 45 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,420 that point without really reading the tea leaves and seeing where culture was 46 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:15,480 going. What was traditionally hip in wrestling is no longer hip. 47 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:19,680 And DX were the ones that came out and said, if you think wrestling is going to 48 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,640 stay the same as it was, you're wrong. And we are the people who are going to 49 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:26,660 come out here and shake things up. Before you come out here and get the 50 00:03:26,660 --> 00:03:33,020 kicked completely out of you, D -Generation X has got two words. 51 00:03:36,330 --> 00:03:41,530 When you look at DX, what comes to mind is, well, kind of exactly what it is. 52 00:03:42,090 --> 00:03:47,330 Degenerates. Degenerates within the sports entertainment world that were the 53 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:52,170 anti -authority and didn't care about the rules of society or the rules of the 54 00:03:52,170 --> 00:03:55,430 business and did everything that you weren't supposed to do. 55 00:03:55,870 --> 00:04:01,890 DX was Triple H and Sean, New Age Outlaws, China, X -Pac. 56 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,760 Triple H and Sean, it was the brainchild of that friendship that started DX. 57 00:04:11,140 --> 00:04:13,560 We are the business today. 58 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,180 There's a bit of discrepancy on Sean and I's first meeting, and I'll stick with 59 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:24,080 my version of it because Sean had issues at the time. I remember distinctly 60 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,780 because Sean, he's a fashion assassin. 61 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:30,700 Sean came in wearing no shirt, bandanas all over him. He had cowboy boots with 62 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:31,960 his jeans tucked into the pants. 63 00:04:32,350 --> 00:04:33,950 And, like, that was a street close. 64 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:37,590 And, like, he just completely walked in front of me and just started talking to 65 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:38,590 Kevin Nash. 66 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:41,710 Kevin said, hey, have you met Paul yet? And he shook my hand, and then he said, 67 00:04:41,810 --> 00:04:43,850 anyway, Kev, I'll see you later. And he walked away, right? 68 00:04:44,670 --> 00:04:47,850 That is something, and again, that's what, you know, I'm not sure if it's the 69 00:04:47,850 --> 00:04:50,650 drugs or, you know. That's the way a hunter's always better, telling the 70 00:04:50,650 --> 00:04:51,650 stories. 71 00:04:52,890 --> 00:04:57,350 I was born July 27, 1969, Nashua, New Hampshire. 72 00:04:57,950 --> 00:04:59,290 It's a roaring metropolis. 73 00:05:00,290 --> 00:05:01,290 Normal childhood. 74 00:05:01,370 --> 00:05:02,329 Middle class. 75 00:05:02,330 --> 00:05:03,970 Parents are still married to this day. 76 00:05:04,190 --> 00:05:07,550 I don't know. I just always had this interest in things that were larger than 77 00:05:07,550 --> 00:05:12,110 life. I was five or six years old. My dad got up and was changing the channel 78 00:05:12,110 --> 00:05:18,290 and stopped on Chief J. Strongbow. I remember specifically who it was. I had 79 00:05:18,290 --> 00:05:22,530 plastic football helmet. I remember putting the football in the helmet, 80 00:05:22,530 --> 00:05:25,590 it on the floor, climbing up on my dad's lap and just sitting and being 81 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:26,610 fascinated by it. 82 00:05:27,850 --> 00:05:31,230 There's something about it that was just incredibly entertaining, action 83 00:05:31,230 --> 00:05:36,630 -packed, but these larger -than -life superheroes, but that were real, and on 84 00:05:36,630 --> 00:05:38,010 TV, sitting right in front of you. 85 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:42,530 And it sucked me in, and from that point forward, I was fascinated with it. 86 00:05:43,150 --> 00:05:48,270 When I was 14, I went to the gym for the first time, and I started lifting 87 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:53,170 weights, and I started to see that path to get to being a WWE superstar. 88 00:05:54,090 --> 00:05:58,430 As I got to that size, got to that level of development and becoming larger than 89 00:05:58,430 --> 00:06:02,790 life, like the athletes that I saw on TV, it started to become a reality that 90 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:06,590 maybe this was something that I could do. And I started to search high and low 91 00:06:06,590 --> 00:06:09,670 for a way to make that happen. 92 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:14,890 I met a powerlifter named Ted Arcidi, who... 93 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,560 had also broken into the wrestling business. 94 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:22,340 And over time, I developed the courage to ask him, hey, how could I get in the 95 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:25,760 wrestling business, man? I'd love to do that. And he discouraged me in every 96 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,040 conceivable way possible. 97 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:30,600 But I stayed on him, stayed on him, stayed on him, stayed on him, probably 98 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,140 to get me to stop asking him. He gave me the number for Walter Killer Kowalski. 99 00:06:35,380 --> 00:06:39,260 I went in the ring and took a couple of bumps, and it was the most natural thing 100 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:40,940 I'd ever done first time in my life. 101 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:45,050 Then it took off from there. Lock up your doors. I'm coming to your town. 102 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:47,550 They better pray when I'm around. What a future. 103 00:06:48,030 --> 00:06:52,750 Young, big man, aggressive, got everything going for him. Pat Patterson 104 00:06:52,770 --> 00:06:57,930 we had been invited to a show that was run by Walter Kowalski. And Walter had a 105 00:06:57,930 --> 00:06:59,370 student, Paul LeVette. 106 00:06:59,990 --> 00:07:01,810 His name was Tara Rising. 107 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:03,990 Great name. 108 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:06,210 By the time that his show came around, 109 00:07:07,050 --> 00:07:11,390 Paul Levesque had signed a contract with WCW in Atlanta. 110 00:07:11,790 --> 00:07:18,550 We met, watched his match, and told him that night, when your contract comes up, 111 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:20,230 WCW, please give us a call. 112 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:22,370 Hunter Hearst! 113 00:07:22,650 --> 00:07:26,070 Paul came in and became Hunter Hearst Helmsley. 114 00:07:26,290 --> 00:07:29,470 Hunter was the quintessential snob. 115 00:07:29,710 --> 00:07:32,090 Hello, Hunter Hearst Helmsley here. 116 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:35,350 When Hunter arrived in WWE, I... 117 00:07:35,610 --> 00:07:38,610 I was happy we got him because I saw a bright future. 118 00:07:39,010 --> 00:07:42,170 What an aggressive athlete Miss Hunter Hurt -Tomsley is. 119 00:07:42,410 --> 00:07:44,890 He looked good, student of the game. 120 00:07:45,470 --> 00:07:49,370 Gathering of the minds between Sean and Hunter was pretty quick. 121 00:07:50,910 --> 00:07:56,230 I was born in Williams Air Force Base, and shortly after that, my father got 122 00:07:56,230 --> 00:07:59,990 transferred to Randolph Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, and for the most 123 00:07:59,990 --> 00:08:03,290 part, that's where I spent the rest of my youth and growing up. 124 00:08:03,790 --> 00:08:07,510 I never sat down and like, what do you want to be when you grow up? But I just 125 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:11,030 recall, I made the comment to my mother, like, I'm going to be a professional 126 00:08:11,030 --> 00:08:12,950 wrestler. That's nice, honey. 127 00:08:13,250 --> 00:08:18,250 You know, I was saying that at 12. And by the time I was graduating high 128 00:08:18,350 --> 00:08:22,430 I'm still saying it. And I think I trained for three months. He is Shawn 129 00:08:22,430 --> 00:08:26,010 Michaels. In the ring, it's nothing short of an aerial sight. 130 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:28,970 Bill Watts got me booked in Kansas City. 131 00:08:29,330 --> 00:08:31,170 And that's where I met Marty. 132 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,220 We walked into the dressing room, and it was this guy who had real short hair, 133 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,100 and he had green tights pulled up to under his chest. 134 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,060 I was like, oh, damn, we got some work to do. 135 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,340 Marty was cool. I mean, he was the cool guy, and he said, you got something 136 00:08:53,340 --> 00:08:56,400 inside you that looks like it's dying to come out, and we're going to get it out 137 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,019 of you. 138 00:08:57,020 --> 00:08:58,400 And I'm sure, you know. 139 00:08:59,150 --> 00:09:02,550 Myself and many people in the wrestling business are sorry that he ever let that 140 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:03,429 person out. 141 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:06,110 The Midnight Rockers. 142 00:09:06,410 --> 00:09:10,610 We became the Midnight Rockers. Turned into a fantastic team. 143 00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:12,950 But yeah, we lived with the gimmick, as they say. 144 00:09:13,210 --> 00:09:18,550 They love to party. We were out every night, and nothing was off the table, 145 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:20,270 whether it was women, drugs. 146 00:09:21,459 --> 00:09:26,060 So all of that stuff was on the table, and we partook in that on an extremely 147 00:09:26,060 --> 00:09:27,060 regular basis. 148 00:09:27,220 --> 00:09:30,740 If we was over 300 days a year, we partied 290 of them. 149 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Marty and I were just hell to deal with. But inside the ring, we were really 150 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,280 good. 151 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:45,540 Shawn Michaels, him and his partner, Marty Jannetty, they came from the AWA 152 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:49,440 the late 80s to the WWE, and they were popular immediately. 153 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,340 Sean's reputation early on was always one of a top -notch performer. 154 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:02,340 I think Sean always saw himself as the star and the biggest star. 155 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:09,280 So being in a tag team, Sean, in my opinion, looked at that as a stepping 156 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,260 to his single stardom. 157 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,700 Recently, there's been a lot of controversy, a lot of rumors that maybe 158 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:16,700 are going to break up. 159 00:10:16,860 --> 00:10:20,560 From the time I got in, I never pitched myself in a tag team. 160 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:26,270 In any theater of my mind or dreams was it ever me and this other guy. 161 00:10:26,910 --> 00:10:31,410 I would argue the barbershop window is the greatest tag team breakup of all 162 00:10:31,410 --> 00:10:32,410 time. 163 00:10:32,750 --> 00:10:38,290 He literally smashed the version of Shawn Michaels as we knew it. 164 00:10:42,570 --> 00:10:46,390 I'd been a rocker forever, and I had no idea who my character was going to be. 165 00:10:46,610 --> 00:10:50,190 Then all of a sudden, one day, I'm just sort of out there. 166 00:10:50,450 --> 00:10:51,450 It comes out. 167 00:10:56,140 --> 00:10:57,140 Being in love with yourself. 168 00:10:57,420 --> 00:11:03,460 Heartbreak Kid was a mix of Elvis meets Freddie Mercury and of the lead singer 169 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:04,460 Judas Priest. 170 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:09,980 All of them were so secure in their entertainment and in their sexuality. 171 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,080 It is fact that I am the sexiest man alive. 172 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,120 This grown man shaking his ass and he's got the chaps and the song. It's just so 173 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,180 obnoxious. Shawn Michaels has got that certain something that everybody's 174 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:24,180 looking for. 175 00:11:24,590 --> 00:11:30,730 It was all that kind of stuff allowing me a vehicle to let this other person 176 00:11:30,730 --> 00:11:36,170 out. If your open wants her, you're going to go up and kick his ass. 177 00:11:36,430 --> 00:11:39,230 But maybe he's going to kick yours and take her anyway. 178 00:11:39,790 --> 00:11:41,550 I mean, there was a lot to dislike. 179 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:48,590 The World Wrestling Federation reeks of jealousy for the Heartbreak Kid. 180 00:11:49,090 --> 00:11:51,590 When he first turned into the Heartbreak Kid... 181 00:11:52,250 --> 00:11:55,370 He was becoming sort of this cocky kind of character. 182 00:11:55,730 --> 00:12:02,570 I want you to take a good look at the wrestler of the 90s. And I think 183 00:12:02,570 --> 00:12:05,750 there was eventually a time where he did morph into that character. 184 00:12:06,190 --> 00:12:09,570 The Heartbreak Kid is cocky, arrogant, full of himself. 185 00:12:09,950 --> 00:12:14,190 Not the biggest guy in the room, but definitely the biggest attitude in the 186 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:17,830 room. Shawn Michaels is leaving the building. 187 00:12:18,859 --> 00:12:21,160 And DX just accentuated that. 188 00:12:24,340 --> 00:12:27,540 If you ask anybody to describe Shawn Michaels in those days, one of the first 189 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:30,860 two words out of their mouth is going to be self -described. 190 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,940 Triple H was the other end of the spectrum, both literally and sort of 191 00:12:34,940 --> 00:12:36,780 metaphorically the designated driver. 192 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,040 It wasn't always easy being Shawn's friend. He was the little guy with the 193 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,859 on his shoulder. 194 00:12:41,860 --> 00:12:42,980 You will not ever. 195 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:48,850 See a man more charismatic, more flamboyant, or more talented than the 196 00:12:48,850 --> 00:12:52,730 heartbreak kid Sean. For the longest period of time, I didn't care for Sean 197 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:53,730 all. 198 00:12:53,810 --> 00:12:56,310 He was hard to deal with, and I didn't appreciate it. 199 00:12:57,290 --> 00:13:01,070 But there was no one that I'd rather work with in the ring. 200 00:13:01,630 --> 00:13:05,810 Sean was doing things nobody else was and working on a level from an in -ring 201 00:13:05,810 --> 00:13:10,290 performer standpoint, but wasn't getting the accolade of it and was just, he was 202 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:11,550 angry and bitter about it. 203 00:13:11,890 --> 00:13:13,610 Drugs and alcohol didn't help that. 204 00:13:14,430 --> 00:13:17,790 They're not going to give me a pat on the back, so I'm going to be obnoxious 205 00:13:17,790 --> 00:13:19,950 about it. It just started to turn to anger. 206 00:13:22,210 --> 00:13:28,910 After a while, it just got to be, I at least need to have 207 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:29,910 that. 208 00:13:30,139 --> 00:13:34,460 The only guys I got real with were my buddies, The Click, Hunter, and Kev. 209 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:40,200 The Click was a bunch of guys that hung out together, went to the bars together, 210 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,500 ate together, I mean, a whole nine yards. Had very strong opinions on the 211 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:49,060 business. These five guys looked at professional wrestling in the early 90s 212 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:53,140 said, this is kind of lame. These guys who were kind of too cool for school 213 00:13:53,140 --> 00:13:56,840 started telling Vince that his product wasn't up to date. 214 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,940 It's hard to argue with that look back. 215 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Safe to say that the 90s became the decade of the anti -hero. 216 00:14:04,820 --> 00:14:09,640 Music, TV, even movies, people started pushing boundaries in a way that just 217 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,680 seemed really edgy at the time. 218 00:14:12,020 --> 00:14:18,680 As pop culture in America is getting darker, WWE 219 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,200 is like the complete opposite. 220 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:27,760 A lot of cartoon characters, everyone in WWE had a job. 221 00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:31,310 The plumber, the race car driver, the dentist. 222 00:14:31,630 --> 00:14:35,110 Wrestling must really be doing bad if every wrestler has like a second 223 00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:38,010 occupation. What is that even? You know? 224 00:14:38,270 --> 00:14:39,950 Not making enough money wrestling? 225 00:14:42,970 --> 00:14:44,950 We wanted to make wrestling better. 226 00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:49,610 At least to where like an adult wasn't embarrassed to say I'm a wrestling fan. 227 00:14:50,010 --> 00:14:52,410 The business needs to change. 228 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:57,230 We were in Indianapolis and Kevin and Scott had reached a boiling point. 229 00:14:57,690 --> 00:15:00,890 Sean had reached a boiling point. It was just the five of us sitting around 230 00:15:00,890 --> 00:15:05,110 BSing with each other, and you sort of couldn't get yourself worked up. They 231 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:07,470 snapped. I can't take it anymore. I'm calling Vince. 232 00:15:07,790 --> 00:15:08,790 We just talked. 233 00:15:09,370 --> 00:15:13,330 It was us not knowing we're kind of describing the attitude here, but doing 234 00:15:13,330 --> 00:15:14,870 and just saying, this needs to be a shift. 235 00:15:15,170 --> 00:15:20,370 Yes, some of the tradition is respectful, but too much of it is just 236 00:15:20,370 --> 00:15:21,370 like, ugh. 237 00:15:21,950 --> 00:15:26,010 Vince said, I've no doubt you guys believe this deep down in your heart. 238 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:27,430 Now's not the time. 239 00:15:27,630 --> 00:15:33,290 He was reluctant. He feels like he has a good idea of what people want, and it 240 00:15:33,290 --> 00:15:34,290 just wasn't working out. 241 00:15:34,670 --> 00:15:37,850 And, like, you know, we had to leave for Vince to go, okay, okay. 242 00:15:38,510 --> 00:15:40,430 I mean, it shouldn't have to get to that point. 243 00:15:41,050 --> 00:15:47,730 As we got into 1996, WCW, our competitor, was being very aggressive 244 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:54,210 in their quest for new talent, and new talent to WCW was established stars. 245 00:15:54,910 --> 00:15:55,910 From WWE. 246 00:15:56,550 --> 00:16:02,710 It was a tumultuous time in 247 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:04,130 our company. 248 00:16:05,390 --> 00:16:11,490 On May 19, 1996, we went to a house show, which was not televised. We would 249 00:16:11,490 --> 00:16:12,970 sneak in a camera, pass security. 250 00:16:13,330 --> 00:16:18,410 It was the last night in WWE for Diesel and Razor Ramon. They both accepted 251 00:16:18,410 --> 00:16:22,930 offers for the rival company, WCW, and this is their swan song. 252 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:30,640 That night, Shawn and Diesel had a cage match, which was a culmination of their 253 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,140 rivalry. At the time, Diesel was a bad guy. Shawn Michaels was a good guy. 254 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,780 The ending shows Shawn Michaels giving Diesel a super kick. And Diesel was laid 255 00:16:38,780 --> 00:16:39,780 out in the middle of the cage. 256 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Here comes Triple H. Here comes Razor, who had a match earlier in the night. 257 00:16:45,660 --> 00:16:47,000 Like, what the hell is this? 258 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Your champion, your hero, Shawn Michaels. 259 00:16:51,470 --> 00:16:55,590 Now hugging and kissing the guy that he just spent 20 minutes beating the hell 260 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:56,449 out of. 261 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:57,970 The garden just erupted. 262 00:16:59,630 --> 00:17:01,390 I'm screaming like a little girl. 263 00:17:02,390 --> 00:17:04,030 People were going ballistic. 264 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:07,310 They're seeing something they've never seen before in a moment in time. 265 00:17:07,589 --> 00:17:09,910 It's breaking the fourth wall. 266 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:14,910 Just telling people everything that you had just done in this match, beat the 267 00:17:14,910 --> 00:17:18,589 hell out of each other, is both taboo in the wrestling room. 268 00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:23,079 It's breaking the handshake agreement that wrestling is real or not. 269 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,619 In pro -wrestling logic, they're not treating this like it's real. 270 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,840 The clique was an insult to our business. 271 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:34,300 If they had done that in the 70s, early 80s, they'd have all four of them. We 272 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:39,160 watched right up until the point, I think, that the four of them raised 273 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,040 hands and doing their little curtain call. 274 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,960 And the men said, let's go. 275 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:47,180 Ooh. 276 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,840 Everybody's pissed. 277 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:55,240 Everybody's taking it as they're crapping on the business, not expressing 278 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,500 friendship. Nothing you can do to Razor, nothing you can do to Diesel. They're 279 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,040 gone. They're WCW's problem now. 280 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Okay, Sean's the champion. There's only so much. You know, Sean, don't you ever 281 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,080 do that again. 282 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Hunter, man, we can't go any further with him based on the decision that he 283 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,200 on that night. 284 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:17,800 One of Vince's famous quotes, you're going to have to learn to eat like the 285 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,669 taste of it. 286 00:18:18,670 --> 00:18:21,890 I was supposed to win King of the Ring, and he said, obviously that's not going 287 00:18:21,890 --> 00:18:23,390 to happen now. I said, okay. 288 00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:27,510 As I was leaving, I turned back to him and I said, this goes back to what we 289 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:32,170 were talking about in Indianapolis. What was the loudest reaction in Madison 290 00:18:32,170 --> 00:18:35,570 Square Garden? I don't understand how that's wrong. The business is changing. 291 00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:36,670 We've got to change with it. 292 00:18:38,590 --> 00:18:44,450 The curtain call. That moment, that sort of wink at reality, it sets the stage 293 00:18:44,450 --> 00:18:45,450 for DX. 294 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:48,040 Shawn Michaels and Triple H, at that point, they were bound together. 295 00:18:48,540 --> 00:18:53,740 After Kevin Scott left, we just had each other. That bond, which was already 296 00:18:53,740 --> 00:18:56,120 strong, was instantly made stronger. 297 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:03,140 And I think Hunter really began to understand how much more 298 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:05,640 dependent on him I was going to become. 299 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,980 After the curtain call, Shawn Michaels was still on top of everything. 300 00:19:18,660 --> 00:19:22,140 But for Triple H, it was, you know, back to square one. 301 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,080 He was supposed to win the King of the Ring tournament. 302 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,560 It ended up being Stone Cold Steve Austin, which changed the course of 303 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,560 in its own way. 304 00:19:36,340 --> 00:19:38,560 He was going to have to start back over on the bottom. 305 00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:40,680 He took a good hit, no doubt. 306 00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:42,060 Creative hit. 307 00:19:48,750 --> 00:19:52,570 And that was his way of punishing Triple H. He lost some money because his 308 00:19:52,570 --> 00:19:53,850 position of cards lowered. 309 00:19:54,750 --> 00:19:58,550 He wasn't looked at as exaltingly as he once was. 310 00:20:00,130 --> 00:20:03,370 And I said this to him, you just got to let the water go under the bridge and 311 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:04,810 you got to get past it somehow. 312 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:07,290 Maybe you want to reinvent yourself a little bit. 313 00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:11,410 It's over. 314 00:20:11,970 --> 00:20:14,810 I can't pull it. Foot to the leg. One, two in. 315 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:16,190 You got him. 316 00:20:19,429 --> 00:20:23,270 As my punishment came to an end, I was told, hey, you know what, we're going to 317 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:24,510 start you back up. 318 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:28,910 The business was slightly changing, so Vince had offered me to slowly 319 00:20:28,910 --> 00:20:32,110 out of being the blue blood character to more what I see myself as. 320 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:35,630 And they also felt like if they put a heater with me, it would give me a fresh 321 00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:36,449 coat of paint. 322 00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:38,810 Sean and I at that point had met Joni. 323 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:44,210 She was an extremely impressive and jacked young lady. 324 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:46,010 You could not... 325 00:20:46,350 --> 00:20:51,350 help but notice her right away we were like oh my goodness sean and i both 326 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:55,190 looked at each other at the same time and we're like that's my heater no one's 327 00:20:55,190 --> 00:21:00,830 ever done that in the business before you have a woman bodyguard which was 328 00:21:00,830 --> 00:21:05,330 a heat getter but have one that was so unbelievably impressive that it could be 329 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:12,070 taken realistically we brought it to vince and he hated it Didn't see it at 330 00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:17,190 I thought it was the dumbest idea of all time. I believe we were in Tampa, and 331 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:21,990 we had breakfast with Shane, and he thought it was a fantastic idea. 332 00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:27,150 Vince said, that girl hasn't signed with WCW yet. Tell her she can be your 333 00:21:27,150 --> 00:21:30,730 eater. But if she's a screw -up, if she's a head case, it's on you. It's 334 00:21:30,730 --> 00:21:31,730 fault. 335 00:21:32,790 --> 00:21:37,210 Live for Monday Night Raw, his lights have been dimmed. 336 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:45,320 My initial memory of Chyna was when she snatched Terry Reynolds and was flinging 337 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,980 her around like a ragdoll. Terry looked like she had not a bone in her body. 338 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,200 My reaction was like, oh my God, I've never seen anything like this. 339 00:21:56,540 --> 00:22:03,480 Everyone, Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, and us as the audience at home, everybody 340 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,200 is going, I have no idea what this is about. Who? 341 00:22:06,780 --> 00:22:11,460 is this lady. That is a huge woman! An Amazon black woman! 342 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,280 These are newborn. Look at how tiny she is. These are newborn pictures of her. 343 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,580 It's kind of hard to believe that this 6 -pound, 10 -ounce thing would grow up 344 00:22:24,580 --> 00:22:28,520 to be the ninth wonder of the world. I mean, it's, like, kind of awesome. 345 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:35,340 Joanie was born in Rochester, New York, at... 346 00:22:35,550 --> 00:22:38,030 4 .14 in the afternoon, I remember it. 347 00:22:38,410 --> 00:22:40,250 She had strawberry blonde hair. 348 00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:43,670 Joan was kind of the entertainer. 349 00:22:43,950 --> 00:22:46,150 She could always liven up the crowd. 350 00:22:47,230 --> 00:22:53,970 At some point, her father and I divorced, and we kind of flitted from 351 00:22:53,970 --> 00:22:58,830 apartment to another apartment. The kids switched schools. 352 00:22:59,170 --> 00:23:03,910 I'm sure that was unsettling for them. I know it would be unsettling for me. 353 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,560 I always say when Joanie turned 15, the devil came down and snatched her and 354 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,339 took her away. 355 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:12,980 She got involved with a bad crowd at school. 356 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:19,880 And I went through her room and found some little baggies of what looked like 357 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,780 some kind of drug. And so we called her down and we confronted her. 358 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:28,900 And that was kind of the beginning of the end. When she was 16, she left and 359 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:29,900 went with her father. 360 00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:34,840 And I didn't fear or talk to her for 27 years. 361 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:46,320 China definitely broke the mold of what a female was supposed to look and act 362 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,080 like in sports entertainment. 363 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,060 I mean, we had women before might get involved in a little extracurricular 364 00:23:52,060 --> 00:23:59,020 activity, but nobody who had that sheer force of will and power that 365 00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:00,020 Joni brought to the table. 366 00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:09,850 To see a woman as the muscle for a man, you're not able to place why something 367 00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:12,930 is different at first, but you know when you're seeing something for the first 368 00:24:12,930 --> 00:24:14,630 time. And that's what China was. 369 00:24:14,930 --> 00:24:19,570 You might be the world's most dangerous man, but I'm bringing something with me 370 00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:21,010 even deadlier than that. 371 00:24:21,250 --> 00:24:23,310 The world's most dangerous woman. 372 00:24:23,850 --> 00:24:26,730 The emergence of China was something no one had ever seen. 373 00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:29,090 That's the kind of stuff you're waiting for as a fan. 374 00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:35,470 After Hall and Nash leave, business is not great. 375 00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:37,350 Crowds are much smaller. 376 00:24:37,570 --> 00:24:42,590 Sometimes they're playing smaller venues. WWE is not trending in the right 377 00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:47,390 direction. Shawn's in a cascade at this point in time. He's downward spiraling. 378 00:24:47,710 --> 00:24:52,090 Business is not great. There's a lot of banter about Shawn's not working as 379 00:24:52,090 --> 00:24:54,950 champion. He's collapsing under the pressure. 380 00:24:55,150 --> 00:24:57,050 I can see him falling apart. 381 00:24:57,510 --> 00:25:00,470 Shawn came to work impaired on more than one occasion. 382 00:25:01,050 --> 00:25:03,070 His mood swings became very drastic. 383 00:25:03,290 --> 00:25:09,090 If I want to come out here and look like a blithering idiot on live TV, believe 384 00:25:09,090 --> 00:25:11,310 me, I'm going to do it. Why? 385 00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:13,090 Because I can. 386 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:18,930 We get to Lowell, Massachusetts, and this is the night that Sean loses his 387 00:25:18,930 --> 00:25:24,050 smile. Here, ladies and gentlemen, to surrender the World Wrestling Federation 388 00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:25,050 Championship. 389 00:25:25,770 --> 00:25:31,190 I wasn't in a great place. The reality is, when you're a drug addict, you don't 390 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:33,490 think well. Your judgment isn't great. 391 00:25:33,790 --> 00:25:39,010 Over the last couple months, there's been a lot of talk, a lot revolving 392 00:25:39,010 --> 00:25:39,809 this belt. 393 00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:43,970 One thing that's not going to revolve around this belt is going to be Shawn 394 00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:47,490 Michaels. In my mind, it's not me, it's the place. 395 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,660 Asking for my release and believing that I would be happier going to WCW and 396 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:54,940 just being with my friends. 397 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,260 The last several months, I've lost a lot of things and one of them has been my 398 00:25:59,260 --> 00:26:04,540 smile. I just thought it was better for everything and everyone that you let me 399 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:06,660 move on and whatever happens, happens. 400 00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:12,500 Vince has said no. And he understood that, look, what you enjoy about this 401 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:16,880 is the creativity and the chance to go out there and do. 402 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:23,040 What you believe is your art, and they won't allow you to do what it is you 403 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,580 to do. So whether it was from a business standpoint or a personal standpoint, he 404 00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:28,580 wasn't going to release me. 405 00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:31,600 It's unraveling for Sean. 406 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,440 So the lose the smile thing is, I got to step away for a minute or I'm going to 407 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,680 die. And I'm always God now. 408 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,240 They ain't nothing else. 409 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Like, nothing. 410 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,820 WWE's fighting battles on two fronts. 411 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,580 They're fighting for viewers against WCW on Monday nights. But they're also 412 00:26:50,580 --> 00:26:53,700 fighting internally with relevancy. 413 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,400 It was the first time that anybody had ever challenged us and taken it to the 414 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,020 point of actually doing perceivably better than us. 415 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,680 It was tough. 416 00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:11,780 It was really, really tough. It was demoralizing and people felt a little 417 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:15,040 defeated. Every penny that we spent. 418 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:20,610 was analyze what do we need, what can we get by without, and what are we going 419 00:27:20,610 --> 00:27:22,490 to do to turn this around. 420 00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:26,350 This was a moment where things needed to change. 421 00:27:27,030 --> 00:27:31,130 Business was bad, bad, dying. 422 00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:37,070 And the World Wrestling Federation kept pushing Shawn Michaels. I told you time 423 00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:43,010 and time again, don't push me. At that point in time, he's bitter and angry. 424 00:27:43,550 --> 00:27:49,870 But you push, and you push, and you push. And what happens when you push the 425 00:27:49,870 --> 00:27:53,050 heartbreak kid? You get a reaction. 426 00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:56,550 I'm a little bit at a point like, listen, I'm going to do what I want to 427 00:27:57,090 --> 00:27:58,370 What's the worst that's going to happen? 428 00:28:00,250 --> 00:28:01,450 The X is born. 429 00:28:01,730 --> 00:28:03,070 You no longer know a step. 430 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:07,650 Traditionally hip in wrestling is no longer hip. 431 00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:12,270 Vince always said that Shawn Michaels reminded Vince of a young Vince McMahon. 432 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,640 Defiant, attitudinal. We are what is cool. 433 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,320 Vince is going to acquiesce to pretty much anything Sean wanted to do within 434 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,560 reason. So DX, Sean was the catalyst for that. 435 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,659 We are. 436 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:29,700 It was filling a need for me personally with the friendship that Hunter and I 437 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:35,620 had. And Joey was coming with us. And it goes back to seeing society, the sort 438 00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:41,660 of rebellious atmosphere that was going on. Generation X was the counterculture, 439 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640 anti -establishment crew. 440 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:49,780 And for the survival of the company, DX was sort of a necessary irritant. I'm 441 00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:52,480 using this vehicle against you. 442 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,000 I saw it as inmates had taken over the asylum. 443 00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:58,560 You're a disgrace to professional wrestling. 444 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,040 You're nothing but a degenerate. 445 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,420 The show was going to be all about them, and they minimized everyone else to 446 00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:07,600 entertain themselves. 447 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,960 We said what we wanted to say. I've got two words for the hitman, brother. We 448 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,260 went places you weren't supposed to go. 449 00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:17,980 Suck it. Yeah. I mean, it pissed off everybody. 450 00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:33,690 There are a lot of people, they look at the 95 through 451 00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:37,650 97 and go, oh man, that's the best HBK because he didn't give two. 452 00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:43,210 The heartbreak kid is in this business because this business needs the 453 00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:49,470 heartbreak kid. I wasn't scared of anything. I didn't care about my life. I 454 00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:52,210 didn't care about money. I didn't care about anything. 455 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,800 And when you are like that in a creative line of work where it is wild, wild 456 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,040 west, you are freaking unbeatable. 457 00:30:03,420 --> 00:30:10,220 People had said to me my whole career, you haven't lived enough life to hate 458 00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:13,860 yet. When you learn to have hate, you're going to make a fortune in this 459 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:14,860 business. 460 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,020 That anger, that hatred inside of you will burn and you'll be able to put that 461 00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:20,020 out there real. 462 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,540 I want you to unload. 463 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,180 This is what you've been waiting for, buddy. Get up. The promos that we were 464 00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:32,720 doing in the beginning, there's a lot of anger in those. That was a new world 465 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,140 for me, whether by my own hand or not. Like the curtain call, you can't do 466 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,120 you can't do that. Like always having these handcuffs and restraints. I've 467 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,880 sitting back for a couple of years. And anger coming out of that to know I can 468 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,720 do more than this. I want to be more than this. While you... 469 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,160 and the World Wrestling Federation have spread your legs like some cheap whore. 470 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800 You go back and you watch the promo that he cut on Vince. 471 00:30:57,020 --> 00:31:00,320 When he finally got to unload on him, that was real. 472 00:31:00,980 --> 00:31:06,180 I can distinctly remember cutting that promo and seeing Vince's eyes change 473 00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:09,640 while I was saying it. I'm thinking to myself, I might as well see the other 474 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,640 side of the line. 475 00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:16,790 I am now taking it in my hands and there is no stopping us now. There was nobody 476 00:31:16,790 --> 00:31:21,690 really like DX before in the sense that they were established stars who decided 477 00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:22,690 they'd had enough. 478 00:31:23,610 --> 00:31:29,010 They were trying to shake things up from within. 479 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:35,150 They were getting away with murder. They were like pushing every boundary. 480 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:40,410 Every week we're going on TV and we're crossing a line. We're coming back and 481 00:31:40,410 --> 00:31:42,970 Vince is going, you can't say that, guys. You can't do that. 482 00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:47,150 We might have to change our name to Double D Generation X. 483 00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:51,370 I remember looking around at the other guys. We're watching the monitor on a 484 00:31:51,370 --> 00:31:55,530 weekly basis. We're looking at each other going, can they say that? Like, I 485 00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:59,450 don't think we're allowed to say that. They might as well just say suck it. 486 00:31:59,510 --> 00:32:01,390 Generation X, one, two, two. 487 00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:05,280 It's disgusting, and you've got a smile on your face. 488 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:09,960 It became a battle cry. I remember in high school, my friends would be doing 489 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,040 this to each other all day. That was just something that everyone knew 490 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,919 what it was. 491 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,460 We couldn't flip people off. 492 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,860 You couldn't curse at people. One of the things that all of us used to do would 493 00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:22,800 be this crotch -pointing thing. 494 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,120 You could get away with it, because what did you do? Did you just point at his 495 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,530 crotch? I don't think it was over the line. We were getting our tails kicked 496 00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:31,169 the ratings. 497 00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:35,410 DX took it to the very tipping point of going too far. 498 00:32:35,790 --> 00:32:37,490 But that's what we needed. 499 00:32:37,870 --> 00:32:41,450 Ratings are going up. Okay, this shock stuff is creating controversy that's 500 00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:45,110 working. Bret Hart, obviously you're not in a very good mood considering the 501 00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:48,650 antics of Shawn Michaels and Hunter Hearst Helmsley. You know, there's the 502 00:32:48,650 --> 00:32:52,330 side complaining about the stuff we're doing on TV and they think it's 503 00:32:52,330 --> 00:32:53,450 disrespectful to the business. 504 00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:56,150 But, I'll be honest, we didn't give a... 505 00:32:56,650 --> 00:32:59,630 Brett Hart did have a problem with DX. 506 00:32:59,950 --> 00:33:03,690 You're a guy that has degraded the championship belt. I'll give Brett Hart 507 00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:10,390 credit for basically naming DX because Brett, in a promo, talked about, you 508 00:33:10,390 --> 00:33:11,990 what you are? You're just degenerate. 509 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:16,250 Why don't you two degenerates come down here right now? 510 00:33:16,650 --> 00:33:20,250 And that's where I remember sitting there with Vince. He's like, they are. 511 00:33:20,390 --> 00:33:22,290 They're degenerates. 512 00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:24,090 They're D -Generation X. 513 00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:25,610 DX was born. 514 00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:31,190 We are the generation that eats. You make your rules and we will bring them. 515 00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:36,790 Yeah, I can't say I liked it. That whole direction into the smut era. 516 00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:42,050 You're looking at somebody that's got no respect for anything or anybody. 517 00:33:42,750 --> 00:33:47,750 They're so problematic and they don't get along with anybody else. 518 00:33:48,890 --> 00:33:50,210 DX did well in ratings. 519 00:33:50,410 --> 00:33:51,970 They were valuable in a lot of areas. 520 00:33:52,170 --> 00:33:54,610 But you had to take the good with the bad with those guys. 521 00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:55,870 You talked enough. 522 00:33:56,090 --> 00:34:00,150 I can say that most of the guys in the dressing room were kind of disgusted 523 00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:01,029 it. 524 00:34:01,030 --> 00:34:04,230 There's not a day we went by a TV or someplace where I didn't have to sit and 525 00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:06,950 talk to somebody about how DX was perceived. 526 00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:10,929 They did not endear themselves to the rest of the roster. 527 00:34:12,210 --> 00:34:14,469 You know, they're going to eat in the same restaurants, they're going to go to 528 00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:16,429 the same gym. They did them with themselves. 529 00:34:16,630 --> 00:34:20,330 They didn't have an entourage, the three of them. It's like a little married 530 00:34:20,330 --> 00:34:21,330 couple. 531 00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:23,449 Yeah, it became a little family group. 532 00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:24,929 You got like two dips. 533 00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:28,230 Guys on the road, Joni brings in a different environment all of a sudden. 534 00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:33,770 China's role from a television standpoint, she was bodyguard slash 535 00:34:33,870 --> 00:34:37,770 Behind the scenes, look, she was babysitter and kind of mama. 536 00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:39,210 She took care of us. 537 00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:43,949 You know, I was not always in the best of shape. And you always see Hunter's 538 00:34:43,949 --> 00:34:49,210 role in that. What they don't see is that she was in the car or in the hotel 539 00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:51,130 not very far from that situation. 540 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,960 When Sean would be miserable, like, she was somebody that could talk him out of 541 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,940 it and could keep him on a positive. 542 00:34:57,340 --> 00:35:00,640 I couldn't talk him out of it. I could just make sure he didn't kill himself. 543 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,660 It definitely became a family bond there. 544 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,440 In the mid-'90s, DX was the turning point in many ways. 545 00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:14,440 We pushed the edge, we walked across the line, and we stayed there for a while. 546 00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:16,000 You want to raise the bar? 547 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,360 Oh, here's your radio. 548 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:23,680 DX was the guys dragging the line as far as they possibly could. This became the 549 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,680 must -see television. 550 00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:29,580 Can you believe that this is what they're doing? 551 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,120 How dare they? 552 00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:35,260 They're ruining our children. 553 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080 But the world was getting edgier. 554 00:35:40,340 --> 00:35:45,620 Everything around was getting edgier. So you either kept up with the times or 555 00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:46,620 you fell behind. 556 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:52,810 So we're junkies for the crowd, and the crowd is going nuts. 557 00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:56,870 So we're out there just letting it all swing, and, like, we're coming back, and 558 00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:59,190 everybody's going, you can't do that. And we're going, like, hey, we're going 559 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:00,190 nuts. 560 00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:03,170 Sorry. Got a call from USA Network yesterday. 561 00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:05,750 You guys are going to get us taken off the air. They're going to go to black. 562 00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:12,370 We interrupt your regularly scheduled program for this special report. 563 00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:18,870 The USA Network had... Sent Vince a letter not being happy with some of the 564 00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:21,030 things that we had done on television. 565 00:36:21,310 --> 00:36:22,750 And he came to us and threw it down. 566 00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:27,290 So what am I supposed to do with this, right? Both Sean and I were like, can we 567 00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:27,879 use it? 568 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,360 Vince McMahon now is sort of at a point where he's kind of getting into this 569 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,480 rebellious thing, so he's wanting to push back a little bit with USA. 570 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,820 I'm going to say this again. And this was right at the time Clinton had just 571 00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:45,480 the Monica Lewinsky. I did not have sex with that young intern, and everybody 572 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,480 knew he was lying. 573 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,540 You write it up top here, Sean, in big letters. 574 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,560 And we were like, let's do that. 575 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,980 Good evening, my fellow Americans. 576 00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:57,260 To reference Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was really smart because it 577 00:36:57,260 --> 00:37:01,780 it from just being a we'll do whatever we want to do sort of statement to a we 578 00:37:01,780 --> 00:37:04,020 are what this culture has made us into. 579 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:11,240 DX was not the reason the late 90s were sort of edgy 580 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:12,640 and it's sometimes gross. 581 00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:14,460 They were a reflection of it. 582 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,800 References. Hey, watch your mouth. 583 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,500 We're not the worst part of culture. 584 00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:29,170 We're reflecting what American culture is. I did not sleep with that young 585 00:37:29,170 --> 00:37:34,130 intern. As a matter of fact, I was up all night. 586 00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:36,750 But I remember getting a call. 587 00:37:37,390 --> 00:37:42,470 I just heard from USA, and I was like, right, okay. And then, like, I loved it. 588 00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:44,210 Are you ready? 589 00:37:44,670 --> 00:37:45,670 Rain's are going up. 590 00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:47,330 Your segments are hot. 591 00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:49,850 So now, we were emboldened before. 592 00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:51,970 Gloves are off now. 593 00:37:52,590 --> 00:37:54,710 We are doing whatever we want. 594 00:37:54,970 --> 00:38:00,030 WrestleMania is now X -rated. 595 00:38:01,330 --> 00:38:04,330 We were like the Howard Sterns of the wrestling world. 596 00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:08,250 Some of it felt a little childish, a little crass, but it was the necessary 597 00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:12,930 revolution. It was a transformation of what we're allowed to do on TV. 598 00:38:14,170 --> 00:38:17,270 Get your children's permission to watch. 599 00:38:17,570 --> 00:38:19,250 Iron Mike Tyson is here. 600 00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:25,610 Discretion is advised, but will be completely ignored. 601 00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:32,930 Mike Tyson is the hottest thing in sports. 602 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:35,710 Many members of the media really don't understand. 603 00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:39,110 Where do we belong? Do we belong on the entertainment page? Do we belong on the 604 00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:39,968 sports page? 605 00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:43,570 So Mike, involved with the World Wrestling Federation, brings the 606 00:38:43,570 --> 00:38:47,530 the focal point to the WWF. So WrestleMania 14 is a crazy time. 607 00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:51,970 Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, and Mike Tyson in the middle. 608 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:53,470 Shawn's a star. 609 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:58,210 Steve Austin's becoming a big star. Mike Tyson's the biggest star in the world. 610 00:38:58,550 --> 00:39:01,790 All in the main event of WrestleMania 14. 611 00:39:11,050 --> 00:39:17,690 No one was as big as Mike Tyson was in the late 90s. People were scared of Mike 612 00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:21,490 at that time. All you thought about with Mike Tyson was him knocking people out, 613 00:39:21,590 --> 00:39:24,150 and in one case, biting off your ear. 614 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:28,310 He was a little bit of a, you know, persona non grata in mainstream pop 615 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:30,750 But to WWE, that was an opportunity. 616 00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:33,850 I'm telling you, it's perfect for the Generation X. You know what I'm saying? 617 00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:37,130 Bring your decision down. I can remember first getting involved with the WWE, 618 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:41,670 the whole ordeal, the air -biting situation, and I was just pretty much a 619 00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:48,070 pariah. The baddest man on the planet, Iron Mike Tyson! 620 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:52,790 I was just so happy to be involved with the Generation X. I'm a fan. 621 00:39:53,110 --> 00:39:54,110 Good God! 622 00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:00,760 Who has more attitude than Mike Tyson? 623 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,080 Nobody. 624 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,560 DX, they're a perfect fit. 625 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,320 They share this common identity as the people who push the boundaries too far. 626 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:14,800 Somehow, DX managed to also bring the 12 -year -old kid out of Mike Tyson. 627 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,660 We got to see a lot more from Mike Tyson than we'd ever seen before. 628 00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:27,200 Getting Shawn to WrestleMania was a battle. 629 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:31,090 He had a bad back. He was heavily medicated. 630 00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:36,910 Ladies and gentlemen, the following contest is a casket match. 631 00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:39,930 I had done the casket match with Taker. 632 00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:47,090 I threw him over the top rope, over this giant coffin, 633 00:40:47,330 --> 00:40:49,910 and I think he clipped his back. 634 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:54,370 I just didn't quite get far enough. Bam, I just hit the corner on my low back. 635 00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:56,630 Wake up the next day, and I can't move. 636 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:01,780 I blew the disc and all that kind of stuff. And he said, you can't wrestle. 637 00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:06,860 I said, nobody tells me what to do. So I'll dope myself up and we'll make it to 638 00:41:06,860 --> 00:41:10,040 WrestleMania. Then I'll let my career be over. 639 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:19,940 So you had Sean, who was injured, who was self -medicating and really 640 00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:23,600 overdoing it. But there was also just a lot going on up here with Sean. 641 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,380 His drug use was out of control. 642 00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:31,050 He knew that he became addicted to the painkillers, the muscle relaxers, and so 643 00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:32,610 forth. He was completely wasted. 644 00:41:34,090 --> 00:41:35,430 And it was sad to see. 645 00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:41,750 I'd go get a luggage cart and put Sean on the luggage cart, roll him up to his 646 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:46,010 room, get him undressed, dig dip out of his mouth, and put him on his side, put 647 00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:48,670 a pillow behind him so he wouldn't roll over and choke to death in his sleep. 648 00:41:49,450 --> 00:41:50,450 Are you enabling? 649 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:53,050 Or are you trying to save his life? 650 00:41:53,930 --> 00:41:56,090 This is my dilemma a lot. 651 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,020 WrestleMania, I'm always involved. It's always big. 652 00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:06,180 Big news and big things tend to follow me. Every day closer we got to that day, 653 00:42:06,340 --> 00:42:09,260 I think Sean became a little more irrational. 654 00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:12,960 You don't just do this stuff for the jollies, pal. You do it because you're a 655 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,880 jock. He knew when this was over, I'm going to go away for a while. 656 00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:20,780 At 50%, on my worst day with the flu, hungover. 657 00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:25,400 I could clap the taste out of your mouth. Sean was in a lot of pain. Sean 658 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,400 to get fixed. 659 00:42:26,590 --> 00:42:31,870 Hunter was the guy that you could depend on. If Sean was unable to do something, 660 00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:34,270 you'd plug Hunter in to do it. 661 00:42:34,570 --> 00:42:39,610 And I think that Paul saw that as, this is my opportunity to step up once Sean 662 00:42:39,610 --> 00:42:40,610 goes away. 663 00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:45,970 There were conversations with me about going forward with DX from there. There 664 00:42:45,970 --> 00:42:50,250 was also conversations that I knew that were happening of like, can he do that 665 00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:54,750 on his own? And at that point, I'm still seen as secondary to Sean. 666 00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:58,770 And can I handle that? Am I a main event player? 667 00:42:59,010 --> 00:43:01,230 Remember, you're replacing Shawn Michaels. 668 00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:06,490 You just don't walk off the street and pick out the next Shawn Michaels. 669 00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:08,130 The audience aren't down. 670 00:43:24,430 --> 00:43:25,510 There's only one Shawn Michaels. 671 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:29,450 For many at that time, DX was Shawn and Hunter. 672 00:43:29,710 --> 00:43:31,910 And how do you place Abbott and Costello? 673 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:35,290 Hello again, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Raw. 674 00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:39,990 Triple H of DX is going to make a major announcement here tonight. 675 00:43:40,570 --> 00:43:44,050 The next night, half the people coming up to me were saying, do you got to 676 00:43:44,050 --> 00:43:47,290 this out of the park or it's dead in the water? And the other half were telling 677 00:43:47,290 --> 00:43:50,450 me that, thinking, there's no way you're going to do this. It's going to suck, 678 00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:51,428 so good luck. 679 00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:57,990 When you set out to do what no one else can do, you look to your friends. 680 00:43:59,930 --> 00:44:02,790 You look to the clique. 681 00:44:06,450 --> 00:44:07,670 Well, look who's back. 682 00:44:13,470 --> 00:44:18,490 When Scott and Kev left for WCW, I was going to leave too. Long story short, I 683 00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:21,850 had like an overdose in a production meeting before TV. 684 00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:23,870 And so Vince puts me in rehab. 685 00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:27,570 And so I was in rehab when the curtain call happened. 686 00:44:29,570 --> 00:44:33,810 Vince has a meeting with me. Tell me like, yeah, if you want to go to WCW, 687 00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:37,050 give you a week. If you stay here, you're going to be in the doghouse 688 00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:38,050 like Hunter was. 689 00:44:38,310 --> 00:44:39,330 No, no thanks. 690 00:44:40,270 --> 00:44:41,770 So I went to WCW. 691 00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:49,480 I ended up getting fired from there. 692 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,500 As soon as I got fired, Hunter found out and he called me. And he told me Sean 693 00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:57,820 was getting ready to take time off and that he wanted to keep doing the DX 694 00:44:57,820 --> 00:45:03,040 thing. And Hunter was like, we can be co -leaders of DX. 695 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,120 And that's kind of how he pitched it. 696 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,120 One of my best friends in my entire life, Triple H. 697 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,940 He says, DX needs your help. 698 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,900 I was so nervous that I was going to screw that up. I was just happy it 699 00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:21,180 out as good as it did, man. 700 00:45:21,460 --> 00:45:24,200 He shows up, crowd goes insane. 701 00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:28,460 So now you have Triple H, Chyna, and X -Pac. 702 00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:30,280 That's not all for that night, though. 703 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:36,640 So later that night, the New Age Outlaws have a tag match against Cactus Jack 704 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,260 and Chainsaw Charlie, Terry Funk. 705 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,680 And all of a sudden in that match, DX shows up and interferes. 706 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,280 Cactus and Terry get beaten savagely. 707 00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:52,540 It's ugly. 708 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:59,140 And then out of that, what we're left with is this shot of the cage with the 709 00:45:59,140 --> 00:46:00,540 new DX. 710 00:46:00,940 --> 00:46:06,760 The New Age Outlaws, Triple H, X -Pac, and China in the middle. I 711 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:13,020 think that was like the first time I got to do this. For some reason, I really 712 00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:16,020 wanted to do that on TV, and I finally got to do it. 713 00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:22,780 We had no idea what we would do next, but that opening salvo sure got 714 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:23,780 everybody's attention. 715 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:28,240 Who would have guessed that you take away the greatest worker of our 716 00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:32,840 Shawn Michaels, and instead of DX dying, it becomes stronger than ever? 717 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,360 This is my DX, my army. 718 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:45,660 I was born in Marietta, Georgia, the summer of 69. 719 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,980 I grew up there until I was in the fifth grade. Then we moved down into the 720 00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:50,980 panhandle of Florida. 721 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,060 My father was a bullet Bob Armstrong, also a WWE Hall of Famer. 722 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,460 I always wanted to be a professional wrestler. 723 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:03,980 My father actually tried to persuade me not to get into it at all. Like, it is a 724 00:47:03,980 --> 00:47:07,280 rough life. You sacrifice a great deal to chase this dream. 725 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,660 Now, when I graduated high school, I was like 6 '4", and I was about 165 pounds. 726 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,300 So I was not going to join the sports entertainment community anytime soon. So 727 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:24,279 went into the military. 728 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,580 I had a six -year stint in the Marine Corps. 729 00:47:30,570 --> 00:47:31,990 We went to Desert Storm. 730 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:37,190 I lived in a sand hole for six months of my life, ate more sand with every meal 731 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:38,190 that I'd like to remember. 732 00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:43,130 That was a really scary time in my life, but on the flip side of that coin, it's 733 00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:45,670 the most proud I am of anything in my life. 734 00:47:46,070 --> 00:47:49,290 I figure someday when you get out of the Marines, you'll be right there in that 735 00:47:49,290 --> 00:47:50,930 ring with them. Yes, I will, Mr. Bullard. 736 00:47:51,170 --> 00:47:55,490 Really proud of my service. Would have done more, but wrestling came calling. 737 00:47:57,420 --> 00:48:00,060 From Music City, USA, Jesse G. 738 00:48:00,740 --> 00:48:05,160 I got a tryout in WWE. I was going to be the singing cowboy. 739 00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:13,300 Times were changing, man, and that singing cowboy gimmick wasn't quite as 740 00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:14,440 as they once thought it was. 741 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,460 I would say probably 96. 742 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:23,200 That's when the real Double J and Rockabilly were first match every night, 743 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,200 versus Billy. 744 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,600 Rockabilly! 745 00:48:30,350 --> 00:48:31,890 I don't really say that out loud. 746 00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:36,410 I was born and raised in Florida. 747 00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:40,670 I trained horses. I rode horses all the time. I was really into the Western 748 00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:43,510 thing. I actually went to college on a rodeo scholarship. 749 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,520 which I know people don't think that's a thing, but it is a thing, and I did 750 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,700 that. Wrestling was never in the cards for me. I didn't even know what 751 00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:52,700 was. 752 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,740 Ron and Don Harris, they're two twins who actually got me started. 753 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,260 A buddy of mine owned a gym in Orlando. 754 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,300 Ron and Don Harris came in there one day, like, hey, what are you guys doing? 755 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,100 How have you been? What's going on? And they go, we're wrestling. And I go, 756 00:49:08,260 --> 00:49:09,260 you're what? 757 00:49:10,220 --> 00:49:14,480 So I finally gave in and went, okay, let me give this a shot. Let me try and see 758 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,480 what this is all about. 759 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,720 So the early part of 92, went and had a tryout with WWE. 760 00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:24,280 Vince looks. He goes, hey, we'd like to offer you the contract. 761 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,940 We'd like you to look it over. So I looked at Vince and said, hey, I have a 762 00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:31,140 Can I just do this on the weekend? He literally laughs. 763 00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:32,840 The old Vince laughs. 764 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:38,920 The Vince laughs and goes, no, I think you'll be all right. 765 00:49:42,030 --> 00:49:44,730 Hey, I'm Bart, and this here's Billy. 766 00:49:48,190 --> 00:49:52,570 If you watch Monday Night Raw in the mid -90s, you will see a lot of Billy Gunn. 767 00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:57,570 The smoking guns were a significant part of a relatively diminished WWE roster. 768 00:49:57,850 --> 00:50:02,570 But he's a member of a tag team of fake brother cowboys. 769 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:07,610 When they tried to push him as a singles competitor, it didn't work. 770 00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:13,130 I was doing the rockabilly thing, which was going absolutely nowhere. 771 00:50:14,510 --> 00:50:15,510 Nowhere. 772 00:50:15,850 --> 00:50:21,830 They were going to fire me. They were going to fire Brian, Road Dogg. Then all 773 00:50:21,830 --> 00:50:25,330 of a sudden they said, hey, these guys are going nowhere. 774 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:28,410 Let's stick them together and let them go nowhere together. 775 00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:32,530 And this, people, is where we form the New Age Outlaws. 776 00:50:32,770 --> 00:50:33,970 Oh, you didn't know? 777 00:50:39,819 --> 00:50:43,280 The New Age Outlaws are a fascinating wrestling story. They're one of those 778 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,460 examples of sometimes one plus one equals three. 779 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,560 Those guys have both been around the block in different incarnations. But we 780 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,280 haven't found a role for them to fit in. And it was Sean. I remember Sean coming 781 00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:00,020 to us and going, Hey, man, you get these guys out of these silly gimmicks. Put 782 00:51:00,020 --> 00:51:01,320 them together as a tag team. 783 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,180 They'll be a hell of a team. 784 00:51:04,420 --> 00:51:05,760 I don't know who did it. 785 00:51:06,250 --> 00:51:10,330 But I'm glad somebody had mentioned it. Why don't you shut your hole and allow 786 00:51:10,330 --> 00:51:14,610 me to do the announcement around here? The best talents are national extensions 787 00:51:14,610 --> 00:51:15,610 of their own personality. 788 00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:19,710 You do not deserve this. The closer you can be to being yourself in this 789 00:51:19,710 --> 00:51:23,990 environment, the better off you're going to be. And those guys were spot on. 790 00:51:24,190 --> 00:51:27,430 The original badass, Billy Gunn. 791 00:51:28,350 --> 00:51:32,790 Billy was such a great athlete and such a motivated competitor. 792 00:51:33,050 --> 00:51:35,450 One of the most competitive people I've ever met. 793 00:51:37,819 --> 00:51:42,840 And then we get Brian Armstrong, Road Dogg. We get to see his sense of humor. 794 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,080 I am not an ass. 795 00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:51,520 Every time we would go out of the curtain, look at me and go, oh my God, 796 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,560 lost. I don't know what to say in our music play. And I just kick him out and 797 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,860 he'd just start rattling it off. 798 00:51:58,620 --> 00:52:04,240 Yeah, we were put together as a team. And so they didn't have any time to come 799 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:05,240 up with the music. 800 00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:09,550 So I just thought, well, man, who needs music? Give me a microphone and I'll get 801 00:52:09,550 --> 00:52:10,550 us to the rain. 802 00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:13,570 Whoa, what a flight! 803 00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:19,050 When the road dog and Billy Gunn first teamed up, there was a sort of ease in 804 00:52:19,050 --> 00:52:19,769 their shoulders. 805 00:52:19,770 --> 00:52:25,330 There was a feeling that this was cool and right. It just felt more fun and 806 00:52:25,330 --> 00:52:27,630 interesting than just about everything else on the screen. 807 00:52:28,070 --> 00:52:32,810 Sean and I, we liked both of them a lot. They were both really good workers. 808 00:52:33,630 --> 00:52:40,630 and kind of organically put this relationship on TV and let them build. 809 00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:45,870 the time comes, we'll pull them into the group. We'll make a larger faction. 810 00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:49,270 Eventually it would work out great because once Sean was hurt and had to 811 00:52:49,450 --> 00:52:51,590 it gave me a giant shoe to drop. 812 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:57,250 It just gave life to something that was probably dead at that point if that 813 00:52:57,250 --> 00:52:59,970 didn't happen. We got two words for you! 814 00:53:00,210 --> 00:53:01,410 They had it with that dish needed. 815 00:53:01,790 --> 00:53:03,210 The seasoning it was waiting for. 816 00:53:03,470 --> 00:53:07,150 I don't think a second version of DX would have been successful whatsoever if 817 00:53:07,150 --> 00:53:08,390 hadn't been for Road Dogg and Billy. 818 00:53:08,670 --> 00:53:13,330 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, D -Generation X 819 00:53:13,330 --> 00:53:20,250 proudly brings to you its tag team champions of the world, the Road 820 00:53:20,250 --> 00:53:23,350 Dogg Jesse James, the badass Billy Gunn. 821 00:53:27,980 --> 00:53:32,340 I had chased my dream and caught it by the tail, and I was living it. 822 00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:38,220 Oh, you didn't know? 823 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,300 Your ass better call somebody! 824 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:51,220 The second you hear the beginning of their song, it's over. It was just three 825 00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:57,020 notes. And the audience erupts. You better call somebody. 826 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,480 Whenever you hear the DX music, people lose their minds legit. 827 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:09,420 It's instantly recognizable, and it's like a trumpet heralding the arrival of 828 00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:10,420 major stars. 829 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,980 We got to work for you, suckers! 830 00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:18,100 Let's get ready to suck it! 831 00:54:19,340 --> 00:54:21,380 The second version of DX. 832 00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:26,800 had no business being as vital as the first version. And yet, with the Road 833 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,840 Dogg, with Billy Gunn, with X -Pac, and with Triple H sort of reinventing 834 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,320 himself, in some ways, the quintessential version of DX was the 835 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,820 it. I feel like DX had two different versions. The first version was Sean and 836 00:54:40,820 --> 00:54:42,360 Hunter against authority. 837 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,200 The other version was the more hip. They're cooler. 838 00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:51,500 Everybody wants to have a DX on their shirt. Everybody wants to say, suck it. 839 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:57,080 Everybody was invested in DX because you never knew what you were going to get. 840 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:06,800 One of the most memorable things that DX did was the 841 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,800 invasion. 842 00:55:08,220 --> 00:55:13,560 By the spring of 98, WCW had been winning in the rating for 83 weeks. WWE 843 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,960 finally neck and neck. 844 00:55:15,820 --> 00:55:18,660 WCW, like, competing for viewers on a Monday night, I guess, isn't enough 845 00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:22,960 because they decide to start running the same towns as WWE was running at the 846 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,740 same time. If we were going into a marketplace, they would try to go in 847 00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:30,220 few weeks before us, put tickets on sale, try to kill our business. 848 00:55:31,540 --> 00:55:36,500 I was on a creative call maybe a couple of weeks earlier, and we were all just 849 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:39,780 bullshitting about what they were doing, and, man, these guys are running the 850 00:55:39,780 --> 00:55:41,220 scopes just down the street. 851 00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:44,180 A joke was made on that call about... 852 00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:48,990 freaking just get a tank and roll it down there, you know, and then that 853 00:55:48,990 --> 00:55:54,390 became a... But if we did something on that... Attention! 854 00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:56,990 WCW, goodbye. 855 00:55:57,370 --> 00:55:59,250 You are done. 856 00:56:00,110 --> 00:56:03,190 You guys are going over. 857 00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:07,370 You're going to drive a tank. You're going to have a loudspeaker. You're 858 00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:11,250 to try to get into the building. Then we all looked at each other and went... 859 00:56:11,250 --> 00:56:12,270 Oh. 860 00:56:12,990 --> 00:56:13,990 Hell yeah. 861 00:56:14,410 --> 00:56:19,830 Ladies and gentlemen, D -Generation X spits in the face of WCW. 862 00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:24,870 When you do something like that, there's major heat on you. 863 00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:29,570 There's like two buyers in the industry, and you're burning your bridge with one 864 00:56:29,570 --> 00:56:31,230 of them. This is D -Generation X. 865 00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:35,150 They asked us, hey, are you okay with doing that? Every one of us was like, 866 00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:36,170 absolutely. 867 00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:49,000 We start banging on the door. Hey, Eric Bischoff, open the door. We just want to 868 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:49,759 say hello. 869 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:56,580 Now you look back, you go, how dumb was it not to open 870 00:56:56,580 --> 00:57:01,080 the door? You could have had the hottest thing at the time on your show, for 871 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,080 God's sakes. 872 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,900 Pisses me off. 873 00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:09,280 Just pisses me off. 874 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:12,200 Because had I known. 875 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,920 Had I been aware in the moment, because I was doing live television, I was in 876 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,500 the freaking ring with a microphone in my hand. 877 00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:25,380 Had I had the time to process this and react quickly enough, I would have told 878 00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:26,900 them to open the doors and let them in. 879 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,140 We're going to have the greatest television show of all time. 880 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,120 It would have been awesome. 881 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,680 I just didn't get that opportunity. 882 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,060 It was beyond a holy that we would do something like that. 883 00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:42,380 And it couldn't have worked out any better for us. 884 00:57:44,980 --> 00:57:51,460 If soon as we went and knocked on WCW's door, our ratings 885 00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:54,660 overtook WCW, and we never looked back. 886 00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:01,180 The invasion really sounded the alarm that something special was taking place. 887 00:58:01,660 --> 00:58:06,440 In the mid-'90s, when everything was exploding, it was like the Beatles, no 888 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,440 matter where they went. 889 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:13,000 You had the New Age Outlaws, megastars. You had X -Pac, megastar. China, 890 00:58:13,140 --> 00:58:18,000 megastar. And you had Hunter, and he sat on top of the heap. 891 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,480 We were just happy to come to work. We were happy to hang out with each other. 892 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,080 And we had China. 893 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,640 She was the piece of the puzzle that stuck it all together. 894 00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:32,820 China was sort of the glue, I think, in the group. She was legit, like the magic 895 00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:34,020 ingredient of that whole thing. 896 00:58:34,410 --> 00:58:37,750 If anybody's going to initiate a DX split, it's going to be me. 897 00:58:38,990 --> 00:58:45,110 What I remember most about DX in terms of regular life, it's the chop. I mean, 898 00:58:45,130 --> 00:58:46,130 come on. 899 00:58:46,310 --> 00:58:51,310 There's just this bad boy edge to it that was so much fun. 900 00:58:51,710 --> 00:58:55,510 Now the crotch chop is just everywhere. A lot of people would see people doing 901 00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:58,690 the crotch chop different places and not have any idea where it came from. It 902 00:58:58,690 --> 00:59:00,490 was just part of culture. 903 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,460 If you're from my generation, you've seen so many kids go across the 904 00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:11,440 stage doing a crotch chop. Doing the suck it probably caused more suspensions 905 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,940 than any other thing, like, in the history of school in America. I'm at 906 00:59:15,940 --> 00:59:22,220 Disneyland in 1999, and my wife says, Mick, this sounds crazy, but I believe 907 00:59:22,220 --> 00:59:26,720 Pooh Bear is trying to say something to you. And I look over, and Pooh Bear 908 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,740 gives me the, Pooh Bear, Pooh Bear's doing the crotch chop. 909 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,948 Suck it! 910 00:59:31,950 --> 00:59:35,410 People who aren't wrestling fans, even they knew D -Generation X. 911 00:59:38,990 --> 00:59:44,570 Once you become somebody in this industry, everybody wants a piece. Great 912 00:59:44,570 --> 00:59:49,390 problem to have, but you don't realize how much sacrifice you have to make to 913 00:59:49,390 --> 00:59:50,770 carry on that way. 914 00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:55,070 It was just everywhere you went, man. Like, grown -ass adults couldn't help 915 00:59:55,070 --> 00:59:57,930 themselves. Like, they would just say, I don't care if you're with your family. 916 00:59:58,070 --> 01:00:00,610 Can I have a picture or sign this for me? 917 01:00:01,180 --> 01:00:05,440 You got to understand something. If you came out of the attitude era, you were a 918 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,440 rock star. 919 01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:09,120 That's intoxicating to a lot of people. 920 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,320 I got caught up. I got lost in the limelight. And, you know, as I got more 921 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,460 successful, it got more out of hand and out of hand. And I had enough money to 922 01:00:18,460 --> 01:00:22,540 buy anything I wanted. And so that was a curse, not a blessing. 923 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,560 We were unfireable. 924 01:00:24,820 --> 01:00:29,980 So I pushed the limits of everything as far as I possibly could because I was 925 01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:35,900 unfireable. And when that happens, then you fall into a dark spot. 926 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:42,540 I got caught up in it. I started buying into the rock star lifestyle, the script 927 01:00:42,540 --> 01:00:46,380 stuff and the drugs, and then it caught up with me and things got really bad. 928 01:00:46,620 --> 01:00:47,860 I mean, really bad. 929 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,700 You're young, making a lot of money. 930 01:00:51,620 --> 01:00:53,900 surrounded by people that just want to be around you. 931 01:00:54,740 --> 01:01:01,500 And I think that out of everyone in DX, the one that hit hardest at the time was 932 01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:02,500 probably Brian James. 933 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,540 My drinking and drugging had gotten bad, and I was separated from my wife for a 934 01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:12,720 little while, and I couldn't see my kids, and I had wrecked a couple of cars 935 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,180 pills. At one point, I was messed up in a hotel lobby. 936 01:01:18,810 --> 01:01:22,630 Bruce Prichard kind of walked up on me and caught me there, all screwed up, and 937 01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:26,670 I kind of just broke down and told him everything that was going on in my life. 938 01:01:27,010 --> 01:01:32,510 He mentioned I should go home. My downward spiral didn't stop there. 939 01:01:32,970 --> 01:01:33,970 It continued. 940 01:01:34,350 --> 01:01:36,990 I thought that was my rock bottom. I had a little further to fall. 941 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,560 You know, I'm hanging out with DX. Yeah, we're doing a lot of fun stuff, having 942 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,340 a good time, but what am I doing? 943 01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:54,760 Is it getting me any closer to where I want to be? 944 01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:57,420 Nobody wants to see me fight Steve Austin for the belt. 945 01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:02,960 We're a bunch of good guys people like because I'm a fan favorite and he's a 946 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,760 favorite. Nobody wants to see us go at it, so they're not going to push that. 947 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,200 So, you know, you've got to take things in your own hands. 948 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,700 Hunter always wanted to be the guy. 949 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,280 Everyone should want to have that desire. 950 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:21,220 Anybody that gets in this business that doesn't want to be the top dog, I don't 951 01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:22,220 know why you're in the business. 952 01:02:22,780 --> 01:02:25,840 Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready? 953 01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:32,840 If you look at that sweep through the Attitude Era, Austin is white hot. 954 01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:35,140 Rock, 955 01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:38,500 they put him in the nation of domination. 956 01:02:38,820 --> 01:02:40,300 I take over DX. 957 01:02:41,180 --> 01:02:45,180 As a group, we're sort of opposed to each other. We're fighting over the 958 01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:46,180 Intercontinental title. 959 01:02:46,660 --> 01:02:48,420 Brock branches out of the nation. 960 01:02:48,820 --> 01:02:52,920 DX continues to move on, but I'm watching this environment and saying to 961 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,820 we need a Darth Vader here. 962 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:01,360 So I go to Vince and pitch, DX needs to come to an end. That did not sit well 963 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,800 with the rest of DX. 964 01:03:03,460 --> 01:03:08,300 Do we all want it to happen? No, because we're all perfectly happy in the 965 01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:09,500 positions that we're at. 966 01:03:10,570 --> 01:03:15,010 We were getting six -figure quarterly merchandising checks, man. We were all 967 01:03:15,010 --> 01:03:19,210 like, hey, man, we don't want to quit this. Go turn heel or whatever, but 968 01:03:19,210 --> 01:03:20,210 affect our money. 969 01:03:21,030 --> 01:03:22,550 Here comes Triple H! 970 01:03:23,090 --> 01:03:24,530 Wait a minute! Wait a minute! 971 01:03:24,910 --> 01:03:26,210 No! No! 972 01:03:27,690 --> 01:03:31,070 Triple H has turned his back on X -Pac! 973 01:03:31,590 --> 01:03:35,010 Ambition in this business is a dangerous thing. 974 01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:38,510 Triple H laid out X -Pac! I've turned my back on my friends. 975 01:03:39,420 --> 01:03:41,060 My friends have turned their backs on me. 976 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,060 We all do it because we all have one goal in mind, and that's to be the best 977 01:03:47,060 --> 01:03:48,060 this business. 978 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,220 DX, as we know it, is dead. 979 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,780 And Triple H now would go on to become, honestly, one of the best bad guys of 980 01:03:57,780 --> 01:03:58,598 all time. 981 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,180 I don't need anybody else, JR. 982 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,280 This is about me. The villains are the straws that serve the drink in pro 983 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,640 wrestling. They're the number one thing you've got to have. 984 01:04:08,090 --> 01:04:12,090 Four years ago, Madison Square Garden, I walked to the ring to say goodbye to my 985 01:04:12,090 --> 01:04:14,970 friend, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Shawn Michaels. 986 01:04:15,550 --> 01:04:17,130 Who got punished for that, JR? 987 01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:23,190 Me. You can smoke and mirror a top baby face, a top hero, to some degree. 988 01:04:23,450 --> 01:04:26,410 But the villains, well, people got to feel that villain. 989 01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:31,890 It's about me getting what I deserve, and that is becoming the WWF champion. 990 01:04:32,330 --> 01:04:37,110 You guys talk about being students of the game. I am the f***ing game, JR. 991 01:04:38,350 --> 01:04:43,730 We needed a great heel. We needed a great heat -getting heel. Hunter was 992 01:04:43,730 --> 01:04:45,910 forward to it. He relished that opportunity. 993 01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:50,990 There's a moment when you win that title for the first time where it's all real. 994 01:04:52,210 --> 01:04:55,770 If you're a kid dreaming about football, you win the Super Bowl. If you're a kid 995 01:04:55,770 --> 01:04:59,110 dreaming about being in the WWE, you're winning the WWE title. 996 01:05:00,010 --> 01:05:04,350 It means something. It means that the company is putting its faith behind you. 997 01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:05,590 It was inevitable. 998 01:05:05,710 --> 01:05:07,770 Hunter's got the brightest future for anybody in the group. 999 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,680 He's the guy you want to invest in. 1000 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:16,760 Once you have Triple H kind of emerge into the championship picture, without 1001 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,440 that leadership, I don't think that you have a DX. 1002 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,840 It just kind of splintered off. 1003 01:05:23,460 --> 01:05:30,380 It's really wild to think about how long or short the real run 1004 01:05:30,380 --> 01:05:32,100 of DX at the top was. 1005 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,740 The whole thing was essentially less than two years. 1006 01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:38,330 You talk about a meteoric rise. 1007 01:05:38,690 --> 01:05:44,950 I mean, DX shows up, instantly has their presence felt, affects pop culture, has 1008 01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:48,690 the whole world crotch -chopping, and by the time you blink, you went from being 1009 01:05:48,690 --> 01:05:50,890 14 to 16 years old. It's over. 1010 01:05:53,050 --> 01:05:58,390 I think everyone wants to spread their wings and show that they're capable of 1011 01:05:58,390 --> 01:06:01,490 more. Please welcome the one and only Chyna. 1012 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,780 Chyna comes out of the DX situation and is a bona fide star. 1013 01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:12,820 She was the most groundbreaking thing they had at that time. She could be in 1014 01:06:12,820 --> 01:06:16,040 ring wrestling one minute and then do the cover of Playboy the next. 1015 01:06:28,430 --> 01:06:33,410 I mean, she was larger than life in like a superhero sort of way. Her impact to 1016 01:06:33,410 --> 01:06:37,370 a generation of wrestling fans, especially female wrestling fans, is 1017 01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:38,470 impossible to describe. 1018 01:06:41,690 --> 01:06:44,470 Jeff Jarrett wrestles Chyna. 1019 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,320 In this housekeeping match... Will she be the first woman to wear 1020 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:49,420 intercontinental gold? 1021 01:06:49,740 --> 01:06:54,660 All of these antiquated items were meant to indicate that a woman should remain 1022 01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:59,200 in the household and cleaning, and China was obviously the antithesis of all of 1023 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,380 that. And I'm watching it with my mom and my grandmother. 1024 01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:07,640 Three generations of women, and it really did resonate with us. 1025 01:07:17,770 --> 01:07:22,010 Joanie thought, based on what she had done for the company, that she wanted to 1026 01:07:22,010 --> 01:07:25,490 be paid on a par with the top male superstars. 1027 01:07:26,110 --> 01:07:30,450 I remember one day she came to my office and said, I know I deserve to make as 1028 01:07:30,450 --> 01:07:31,450 much as Stone Cold. 1029 01:07:31,890 --> 01:07:32,890 Excuse me? 1030 01:07:33,550 --> 01:07:36,370 She wanted to be the highest paid talent on the roster. 1031 01:07:37,250 --> 01:07:41,690 She, I think, believed that she was going to be the biggest star in 1032 01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:45,460 and that She didn't need this place anymore, so she demanded stuff that 1033 01:07:45,460 --> 01:07:48,300 was like, I just can't even get close to any of that. 1034 01:07:48,740 --> 01:07:52,860 I get the fact that you're going to have confidence in yourself in such a crazy 1035 01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:53,860 -ass business. 1036 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,040 She was the first woman that I ever met. She might have close to 50 years in the 1037 01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,700 business to make a million a year. 1038 01:08:00,420 --> 01:08:05,940 But I could not meet her contractual demands, and they were demands to 1039 01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:06,940 her from leaving. 1040 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:16,700 The attitude era was by far the craziest time in my life. 1041 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,600 When you're in the midst of it, it's like you're in a drug -addled violent 1042 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,840 tornado that's just carried you along. 1043 01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:32,840 When I got off the drugs, I started looking inward. I started working on 1044 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,420 and trying to figure out why I was the way I was. 1045 01:08:36,740 --> 01:08:39,840 It was the first time I realized, like, I have a choice in this. 1046 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:46,560 I learned to control me and dig down deep and find serenity, a peace. 1047 01:08:47,420 --> 01:08:51,779 I can take a deep breath and walk around here and not have a worry in the world. 1048 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,439 It's what life's all about. 1049 01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:02,319 After Triple H leaves DX, DX breaks up. Triple H's star continues to rise and 1050 01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:07,020 rise and rise. Please welcome the one, we hope the only, Triple H. And the same 1051 01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:08,760 is definitely not true for everybody else. 1052 01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:12,670 Xbox. Well, he teamed up with Kane for a while, and then he was in this group 1053 01:09:12,670 --> 01:09:14,550 called the X Factor. That trajectory was going down. 1054 01:09:15,310 --> 01:09:16,370 Road Dogg got released. 1055 01:09:16,970 --> 01:09:18,310 I think China got released. 1056 01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:20,270 Billy Gunn, you know, they tried. 1057 01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:21,670 They gave him the King of the Ring. 1058 01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:28,250 I remember he feuded with The Rock for like a hot second. It really seemed like 1059 01:09:28,250 --> 01:09:29,430 they were going to make something of him. 1060 01:09:31,410 --> 01:09:36,470 For a crew that was so, so popular together, you know, it's sad to watch 1061 01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:37,470 trajectory. 1062 01:09:37,950 --> 01:09:40,350 And eventually Triple H is just sort of the last man standing. 1063 01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:45,630 I get hurt in a match with the Dudleys. 1064 01:09:46,010 --> 01:09:51,210 I put Bub on a table and jump higher than I've ever jumped before in my life. 1065 01:09:52,410 --> 01:09:59,230 I caught the table and it slung me sideways. And when it did, my 1066 01:09:59,230 --> 01:10:02,790 elbow hit and blew my entire shoulder in half. 1067 01:10:03,170 --> 01:10:05,550 By the time 04 comes around. 1068 01:10:06,380 --> 01:10:10,440 On my birthday, I get a phone call that says I'm no longer needed. 1069 01:10:14,860 --> 01:10:20,960 So I'd been fired for a couple of months now, and then I heard WCW was coming to 1070 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,340 Panama City. And I thought, oh, well, I'll just go down there, see some old 1071 01:10:25,340 --> 01:10:28,000 friends, and maybe put my name in the hat, you know? 1072 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,020 Shane McMahon is on Nitro! 1073 01:10:33,950 --> 01:10:38,950 It's the night that Shane McMahon shows up and they buy WCW. 1074 01:10:39,290 --> 01:10:40,290 That's right. 1075 01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:43,270 I own WCW. 1076 01:10:43,630 --> 01:10:45,310 There went my plans. 1077 01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:50,290 And so I got drunk and got in a fight at a bar and went to jail in Panama City. 1078 01:10:52,610 --> 01:10:54,470 I had an incident at the airport. 1079 01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:56,190 I was taking muscle relaxers. 1080 01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:58,550 They hit me. They hit me hard. 1081 01:10:59,490 --> 01:11:02,950 I get home, and I get a call from JR, and he's like, yeah, Vince is hot. He 1082 01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:03,950 wants you to go to rehab. 1083 01:11:04,610 --> 01:11:05,610 I'm like, no. 1084 01:11:06,370 --> 01:11:07,730 I didn't fail a drug test. 1085 01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:10,790 I was fully transparent with you guys. 1086 01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:12,650 I said, son, no, I think I quit. 1087 01:11:14,890 --> 01:11:15,890 And that was it. 1088 01:11:17,670 --> 01:11:21,790 Yeah, the start of over a decade of darkness. 1089 01:11:24,940 --> 01:11:31,280 We all have our moments of when things went bad. Mine more or less went bad 1090 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,440 after I'd left the company. 1091 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:42,940 We all have our demons. 1092 01:11:46,030 --> 01:11:51,390 But luckily for me, I'd done enough stuff and had enough value in my name 1093 01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:56,090 could go do the indie stuff, and then I went to another company for a while, and 1094 01:11:56,090 --> 01:11:58,490 then things just went screaming downhill. 1095 01:11:59,430 --> 01:12:04,590 Billy and I joined forces in TNA to be a tag team called the Voodoo Ken Mafia, 1096 01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:07,670 which stands for VKM. Screw you, Ben! 1097 01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:09,070 Screw you, Ben! 1098 01:12:09,290 --> 01:12:10,390 Screw you, Ben! 1099 01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:14,310 I'm completely off the rails, me and Brian, and we just talk. 1100 01:12:14,590 --> 01:12:18,750 crap about everybody trying to bury everybody people come up to me and go my 1101 01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:21,710 did you see the interview brian and billy did they buried you or whatever 1102 01:12:21,710 --> 01:12:25,930 i'm like dude the guys they're on drugs every week you are chopping at the very 1103 01:12:25,930 --> 01:12:32,010 foundation of the dynasty of the legacy that we were damn sure a major part of 1104 01:12:32,010 --> 01:12:38,570 it was just a complete disaster no angles no spots no finish 1105 01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:39,690 just men 1106 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,580 Yeah, I just found myself in a really bad spot. 1107 01:12:50,860 --> 01:12:56,100 Like on my floor, my house wrecked, everybody gone. 1108 01:12:56,500 --> 01:13:00,580 Literally crashed two cars. And I'm not trying to make this sound bad. I'm just 1109 01:13:00,580 --> 01:13:04,140 saying what happens. My wife and everybody was over it. They didn't want 1110 01:13:04,140 --> 01:13:05,840 phone call. I don't want that phone call. 1111 01:13:06,260 --> 01:13:09,700 Sitting there going, your husband died because he took a bunch of stuff and ran 1112 01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:10,659 into something. 1113 01:13:10,660 --> 01:13:12,060 Look, I was 42 years old. 1114 01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:13,700 I'm a father of three. 1115 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,920 I'm doing these indie shows. 1116 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:23,800 where I'm getting $300 a night, and it didn't matter because if I could get 1117 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:28,260 drugs while I was there, too, awesome. But it had just gotten where my life was 1118 01:13:28,260 --> 01:13:32,400 miserable, where literally contemplating suicide. 1119 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,920 Me and my brother were driving back from Alabama from a little town, and I was 1120 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:37,699 screwed up. 1121 01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:42,460 And, like, I was crying, and he was like, you know, you don't have to live 1122 01:13:42,460 --> 01:13:43,460 this. 1123 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:48,920 Got caught up. Ended up doing math and, like, It might not kill you like, you 1124 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,660 know, shooting heroin or something, but it robs you of your soul. 1125 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,360 You're just like a walking zombie, man. 1126 01:13:57,700 --> 01:13:59,900 Kid and I wouldn't talk for a long period of time. 1127 01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:03,860 Every now and then we'd touch base, and it was usually miserable. 1128 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,480 Eventually I ended up down in Mexico, and I hung myself. 1129 01:14:08,660 --> 01:14:11,900 I was in a coma for three days there in Mexico City. 1130 01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:17,500 The one thing I've learned in the process is you can't help somebody until 1131 01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:18,500 want to help themselves. 1132 01:14:18,540 --> 01:14:22,060 Like there's just no, you just can't. 1133 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,900 As much as you try, as much as it breaks your heart, you can't make it happen. 1134 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,100 It's like we do. Like Kevin Nash was, he flew down there to pick me up and 1135 01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:33,180 brought me to my third and final rehab. 1136 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,720 I went from Mexico to Orlando and never went back to Mexico again. I left all my 1137 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:43,340 in Mexico and never came back. 1138 01:14:45,580 --> 01:14:49,560 The only person that could fix what was going on with me was me. You do 1139 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,040 something about it or you die. 1140 01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:58,760 Like the later part of 2011, 2012, I'd go to rehab and clean up and 1141 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,680 get everything straight in my life. And then it took some work. And then my wife 1142 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,660 came back. My kids came back. My dogs came back. My job came back. 1143 01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:08,160 Everything came back. 1144 01:15:08,650 --> 01:15:09,770 I got clean and sober. 1145 01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:13,810 I had to go back and make some amends. I had to go back and right some wrongs, 1146 01:15:13,810 --> 01:15:17,490 or try to anyway, and humbly ask them to forgive me. 1147 01:15:17,730 --> 01:15:21,850 Hunter went to Vince three different times, and Vince said no twice. 1148 01:15:22,090 --> 01:15:27,030 And he literally the third time said, he's a drug addict, Hunter. 1149 01:15:27,370 --> 01:15:29,750 When he screws up, it's your ass. 1150 01:15:30,170 --> 01:15:34,210 That's what he told Hunter. And so Hunter gave me an opportunity after I'd 1151 01:15:34,210 --> 01:15:35,210 sober about a year. 1152 01:15:35,580 --> 01:15:38,260 Then I became lead writer of SmackDown for three or four years. 1153 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,380 Hunter still believed in me, and for that I'm forever grateful. 107514

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