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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,620 --> 00:00:16,620 Growing up with close to nothing in South Park, Texas, kicking it around New 2 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:18,040 York City is kind of surreal. 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,680 The sound, the energy, there's nothing like it. 4 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,200 It's like another world, man. 5 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,360 It's also a place that I dreamed of as a kid. 6 00:00:44,860 --> 00:00:46,000 Because of Shaft. 7 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:55,360 I watched that movie at least a hundred times and I literally wanted to be John 8 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Shaft. 9 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,760 I didn't see black guys like this in movies back then. 10 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,380 He was a bad man and didn't back down from nobody. 11 00:01:15,340 --> 00:01:21,780 Chef, he resonated with me and inspired the five words that define 12 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:25,560 the two -time WWE Hall of Fame. 13 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,760 Can you dig it, sucker? 14 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:36,060 Act one of being a pro wrestler is when you come through that curtain. 15 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,560 He went in and he took it to the moon. 16 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:42,820 Can you dig it, sucker? 17 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,000 She probably just soaks up the adulation and the energy. It just makes it bigger 18 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 and bigger and bigger. 19 00:01:52,060 --> 00:01:55,260 Our two -time WWE Hall of Famer, Booker T. 20 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:06,260 Booker's persona is a street smart, hungry, athletic, over -the 21 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:08,759 -top, kick -your -ass professional wrestler. 22 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,479 Take a look at this book! 23 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,610 Even growing up, Junior was never afraid to fight. He would fight big kids, 24 00:02:19,930 --> 00:02:24,670 dogs, cats. I mean, he just loved to fight, and he could fight very well. 25 00:02:32,410 --> 00:02:33,730 You try to get somebody. 26 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:34,930 Like, did you see that? 27 00:02:37,890 --> 00:02:42,710 One of the things I love about Booker T was his flair for the theatrical side. 28 00:02:46,410 --> 00:02:47,850 And the drama of it. 29 00:02:51,090 --> 00:02:56,530 This is show business. 30 00:03:01,010 --> 00:03:03,310 The key in this business is charisma. 31 00:03:05,070 --> 00:03:07,670 Booker T walks into a room, you notice him. 32 00:03:10,110 --> 00:03:14,290 Fun, larger than life personality and big and loves to laugh. 33 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,840 Go to every length just to entertain you. 34 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:22,100 Tell me I don't look like that! 35 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,760 And let me tell you, Booker is the same way when he's at home. 36 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:34,460 I'm like, really? Are you really doing this right now? 37 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,700 Pioneer, trendsetter, two -time Hall of Famer, five -time champion. 38 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,540 He's always managed to stay on top. 39 00:03:47,420 --> 00:03:53,580 It's very, very important to see people who look like you doing great things. 40 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:55,620 If he's doing it, so can I. 41 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:21,740 This is where it all started so many years ago. 42 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:24,120 You don't miss what you don't have. 43 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,600 We didn't have a lot, but what we had, it was enough. 44 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:39,280 There was a lot of shooting dice. 45 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:43,420 We were shooting marbles. We were trying to get the mischief, looking for some 46 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:44,420 girls. 47 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:56,130 Don't let nobody push you around, you know, amen? If you get into a fight, you 48 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:57,690 know, make sure you throw the first punch. 49 00:04:59,630 --> 00:05:02,990 You know, and that's what not my brothers was teaching me, but my sisters 50 00:05:02,990 --> 00:05:03,990 teaching me that. 51 00:05:06,850 --> 00:05:09,330 That's what life was here in this neighborhood. 52 00:05:11,730 --> 00:05:16,290 We moved here back when I was actually about seven years old. We moved around 53 00:05:16,290 --> 00:05:19,790 Houston until we finally settled right here in this neighborhood. And I tell 54 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:23,390 you, Just standing here right now, the memories just flood back. 55 00:05:27,790 --> 00:05:32,830 I was born in a little place called Plain Dealing, about 50 miles outside of 56 00:05:32,830 --> 00:05:33,830 Shreveport, Louisiana. 57 00:05:36,910 --> 00:05:38,570 I was the youngest of eight kids. 58 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:41,930 I never knew my father. He passed away when I was 10 months old. 59 00:05:46,250 --> 00:05:50,590 My mother was a registered nurse, and she packed up, and she moved us here 60 00:05:50,590 --> 00:05:52,850 because she just wanted more for her kids. 61 00:05:54,470 --> 00:06:00,850 As long as I can remember, my mother worked from 11 at night to 7 a .m. in 62 00:06:00,850 --> 00:06:01,850 morning. 63 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:06,930 It was very important for her to be there when we woke up and to be there 64 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:11,090 we came home from school every day and to make sure that we were. 65 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:16,440 fed, that we did our homework, and that we were in the bed before she left. So 66 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,820 that graveyard shift can be very, very tough, but my mom did it, and she did it 67 00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:22,820 for us. 68 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,520 We had four girls, four boys, and some of the older ones were already out of 69 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,680 house when we moved to Houston, but she was still a single parent with a full 70 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:39,440 household. My older brother, Lash, others know him as Stevie Ray, his 71 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,440 name. 72 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:45,780 Booker T, myself, the three of us were all three years apart, so we were the 73 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:48,100 closest, and all three of us were the youngest. 74 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Sports was always in the equation, and my brother would always play football 75 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,020 with me and my friends. For some reason or another, he wanted to play with us. 76 00:06:57,940 --> 00:07:01,420 Whatever Lash wanted to do, Junior wanted to do. 77 00:07:01,870 --> 00:07:05,970 Whenever we would get new mattresses, Junior and Lash would ask for the old 78 00:07:05,970 --> 00:07:09,810 mattress. And they'd set it up in the backyard and make a makeshift ring. 79 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:13,590 And me and my niece, we were guinea pigs for the sleeper hold. 80 00:07:14,970 --> 00:07:17,230 He did look up to his big brother. 81 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:24,350 My mom, not that she didn't love all of us, but she loved Junior because he was 82 00:07:24,350 --> 00:07:25,350 the baby. 83 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,340 He could cry for three hours without stopping. Sometimes he'd cry so much 84 00:07:30,340 --> 00:07:34,620 have to pay him to stop, and he'd get your money. And then when she'd come 85 00:07:34,780 --> 00:07:37,100 he'd cry again so he could plead his case. 86 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,900 My mama would be, oh, my baby, my baby. 87 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,700 And he'd be hugging her and looking over there, wanking at us. 88 00:07:47,020 --> 00:07:48,540 I was a mama's boy. 89 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,540 I always said one day that I was going to buy my mother a big house. 90 00:07:54,060 --> 00:07:56,300 And she wasn't going to have to ever work again. 91 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,000 I just lay on my mother and just listened to her heartbeat. 92 00:08:01,460 --> 00:08:03,440 The relationship was very, very special. 93 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,280 We had an attic fan. And for some reason, the attic fan had stopped 94 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:17,800 All my brothers are older. And she had been trying to get one of those guys to 95 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,780 go up there and take a look at it for the longest. And finally, one day, she 96 00:08:20,780 --> 00:08:22,380 said, I'll go do it myself. 97 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:29,730 She went up to the attic to check it out. No, she stepped on the sheetrock, 98 00:08:29,730 --> 00:08:32,390 she fell through the roof to the floor. 99 00:08:34,690 --> 00:08:38,929 From that point on, she always had bad problems. She had to have surgery. 100 00:08:39,510 --> 00:08:42,630 She had the surgery. She came through. Everything was fine. 101 00:08:43,030 --> 00:08:46,730 Her leg began to stiffen, and she was in pain again. 102 00:08:47,150 --> 00:08:49,150 And when she went back to the doctor... 103 00:08:49,450 --> 00:08:51,910 They said that they needed to go in again. 104 00:08:52,370 --> 00:08:56,190 It was basically, I'm going to go to the hospital, I'll be there a couple of 105 00:08:56,190 --> 00:09:00,650 days, here's lunch money, and you kiss your mom goodbye. 106 00:09:01,530 --> 00:09:05,750 Something happened, complications, and my heart stopped beating. 107 00:09:05,970 --> 00:09:10,410 And, man, 49 years old, my mother was gone. 108 00:09:16,620 --> 00:09:22,360 We had lost our leader, our rock, our provider, our strength. We had lost 109 00:09:24,740 --> 00:09:29,540 Everything changed for me, of course, being a 13 -year -old kid with no 110 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:36,760 I don't blame any of my sisters and brothers for not stepping up and being a 111 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,020 father figure, a mother figure. 112 00:09:39,220 --> 00:09:45,700 I don't think anybody was prepared or equipped for the loss. 113 00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:48,150 My mother, no one was. 114 00:09:48,510 --> 00:09:51,230 We were like little aunts without the queen. 115 00:09:52,170 --> 00:09:55,090 Everybody was just like everywhere. 116 00:09:55,610 --> 00:09:57,630 And it kind of splintered our family somewhat. 117 00:09:57,950 --> 00:09:59,150 I knew it did me. 118 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:04,350 And the younger kids, Booker and Benita, that's all they knew was their mom. 119 00:10:04,810 --> 00:10:09,870 From a legal standpoint, we were orphans because we didn't have a mother or 120 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:11,530 father and we were both minors. 121 00:10:13,010 --> 00:10:14,010 For short. 122 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:21,290 period of time we did struggle because we were basically the two that were 123 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:28,130 left in the home after my mom died so here's this kid at age 124 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:31,470 13 living with his sister in a house that is abandoned you know the 125 00:10:31,470 --> 00:10:35,430 electricity's being turned off now it's becoming a derelict house they don't 126 00:10:35,430 --> 00:10:40,750 have any food they have nowhere to go they kept the lights on as long as they 127 00:10:40,750 --> 00:10:41,750 possibly could 128 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:44,750 They kept the water on as long as they possibly could. 129 00:10:46,690 --> 00:10:49,630 And then no lights, no water, no gas, no anything. 130 00:10:52,090 --> 00:10:54,930 There was a lot of scary nights in the house, you know, with candles. 131 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:59,870 We toughed it out as long as we possibly could. 132 00:11:00,630 --> 00:11:05,050 The house got foreclosed on, you know, the bank took it. My sister actually, 133 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:08,530 know, took us in, and we were in a better place as far as we had lights and 134 00:11:08,530 --> 00:11:09,530 had gas. 135 00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:11,640 We had water. We had food. 136 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,960 But we were still in an environment that two kids shouldn't have been in. 137 00:11:21,380 --> 00:11:25,860 Right now, we're deep in the heart of South Park, Texas, where I pretty much 138 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:29,820 grew up and always say created all my dirt. 139 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:35,980 Lifestyle that I had was a little bit different than most kids because most 140 00:11:35,980 --> 00:11:38,720 were thinking about getting home. 141 00:11:40,180 --> 00:11:45,480 going outside and playing with their buddies. And it was like that for me to 142 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,500 point. And then after I lost my mother, things totally went in another direction 143 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:54,140 as far as now I had to police myself. 144 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,680 Now I had, you know, peer pressure. In the neighborhood, the kid on the corner 145 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:01,680 is asking you, hey, man, you want to smoke some of this? 146 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,460 You know, and you go, yeah, man, I'll smoke some of that. 147 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:07,200 And, you know, that's where it all starts. 148 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,140 One of the first things I saw, actually, we were at the car wash. 149 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,060 A friend of mine by the name of Ted, he was a kid that I went to school with. So 150 00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:20,760 I'm getting to it with another guy at the car wash, and it was just going to 151 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,639 a regular fight. 152 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:27,380 And next thing you know, Ted pulls out a gun, boom, shoots the kid. 153 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:33,240 And then a friend pulls out a shotgun, boom, it kills Ted. 154 00:12:34,460 --> 00:12:36,820 So as a kid, you know, seeing stuff like that. 155 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,720 You just wonder, man, what is life all about? 156 00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:43,020 You know, what are we here for and how long are we here for? 157 00:12:44,020 --> 00:12:45,080 Life in the neighborhood. 158 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:49,900 I could pretty much do whatever I wanted to do. I didn't have to think about 159 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:51,960 going to school if I didn't want to go to school. 160 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,020 I would just stay home or just go somewhere else. 161 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,680 Who was going to tell me it was wrong? 162 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:04,140 No one. Who knew I was at school or not? No one. Who cared? No one. 163 00:13:05,450 --> 00:13:09,910 When you find yourself in that position, you start doing things a young kid 164 00:13:09,910 --> 00:13:11,570 definitely shouldn't have been doing. 165 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:18,730 Going out and partying, drugs, hanging out at the 4 o 'clock in the morning, 166 00:13:18,730 --> 00:13:21,070 on the waterfront, watching the ladies of the night. 167 00:13:23,050 --> 00:13:28,050 Things change in the neighborhood, South Park, but nothing, nothing like when I 168 00:13:28,050 --> 00:13:30,950 started coming in this area right here. It's called the waterfront area. 169 00:13:31,530 --> 00:13:35,470 You know, the dock was not too far from here. Everybody would freak with this 170 00:13:35,470 --> 00:13:38,470 area, you know, especially on Friday nights after they got paid. 171 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:44,230 Prostitutes, gambling, you see gambling on the corner. The drug scene, the 172 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:47,490 needles. That's what I remember more than anything is the needles. 173 00:13:49,890 --> 00:13:51,510 Listening to some Willie Hutch. 174 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:56,290 Some of his music went hand in hand with the game. 175 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,740 I knew I didn't want to do drugs. I knew I didn't want to be a pimp. I knew I 176 00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:22,780 didn't want to have that lifestyle. 177 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,900 I knew I didn't want to do that, but I was right in the middle of it. 178 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:35,100 Booker just kind of fell through the cracks. 179 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,080 Here's a kid that was literally on his own, and then he ends up getting a job 180 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,180 sweeping the floors in a heroin den, and it doubled as a brothel. 181 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:47,240 He's trying to survive. He's trying to live till tomorrow. 182 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:48,700 I had no ambitions. 183 00:14:49,140 --> 00:14:54,760 I was in that whirlwind, and it was spinning, and war had stopped, and 184 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,760 where I was going to go. 185 00:14:55,780 --> 00:14:59,700 When you have that mindset and you're stuck in that position, you do things 186 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:02,240 are, you look back and say, well, that was a terrible decision. 187 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,380 Just start making your own rules, whether those rules are right or wrong. 188 00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:15,300 just start making them. And that's what I did. I remember hanging out with my 189 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:17,020 buddies, and they became my family. 190 00:15:17,420 --> 00:15:19,560 And we started writing our own blueprints. 191 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:27,440 So when he sees an option to deal a little pot or rob a fast food 192 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,440 course he's going to do it. 193 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,340 The robbery, the incident, the way it started. 194 00:15:32,900 --> 00:15:35,600 It was myself, a friend of mine, Zachary. 195 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,540 a friend that I grew up with, Wendell. 196 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,940 We worked at Wendy's. It was this one manager. 197 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Just used to give us a hard time all the time. 198 00:15:44,180 --> 00:15:47,300 We were talking about it one day, man, we should rob him. 199 00:15:47,740 --> 00:15:52,600 We did it, and we got away with it, the store that we actually worked in. Then 200 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,940 we did it again, and we got away with it. Somebody said, hey, man, when are we 201 00:15:57,940 --> 00:15:58,940 going out again? 202 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Let's do it. 203 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,920 We got away with it again. 204 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,740 It was like we were ever going to get caught. 205 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,020 We saw it on the news and we were like, man, this thing is getting crazy. You 206 00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:13,500 know, we're getting really big. We were like rock stars then. 207 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,220 It's like cat and mouse. 208 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,580 Catch me if you can. 209 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:21,340 It's hard to understand. How do you think you know more than the cops? 210 00:16:23,380 --> 00:16:24,420 That's their job. 211 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:29,920 They'll come to the office. Only thing they do is sit around and investigate 212 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,860 try to figure out how to catch someone doing wrong. 213 00:16:36,140 --> 00:16:42,580 I was coming home to my apartment, came around the corner, and I saw no one. It 214 00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:43,840 was so quiet that night. 215 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,640 And I just remember, man, just something does not feel right at all. 216 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,520 And literally 10, 15, 20 people came out at the same time. 217 00:16:56,980 --> 00:16:59,660 And they all had guns, and they were all pointing at me. 218 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,819 That ride from 45 and 610 to downtown Houston to the county jail, that was the 219 00:17:12,819 --> 00:17:14,680 longest ride I ever had. 220 00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:24,980 I was in Harris County for about eight months. 221 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:29,440 I sat in that jail waiting on whether I was going to go to trial or I was going 222 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,440 to take a plea. 223 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:32,640 And I was going to take a plea. I knew I was wrong. 224 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,160 I knew I was guilty. 225 00:17:34,890 --> 00:17:38,990 I knew I would have been convicted very, very easily. I took the sentence, which 226 00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:40,250 was five years. 227 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:45,370 I had to go to a place called Pac -2. 228 00:17:46,330 --> 00:17:47,990 It was in Navasota, Texas. 229 00:17:49,370 --> 00:17:52,030 I remember seeing the chain gang on television. 230 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:55,670 I didn't think that was a real thing. I thought it was just something that was 231 00:17:55,670 --> 00:17:56,770 outdated or in the past. 232 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:03,040 But we really had to wake up early in the morning and we'd get on the back of 233 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,160 this big truck and we would go to literally just clear a field. 234 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:18,560 And we would do it pretty much by hand, pulling up stumps. 235 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,940 And it was for hours. 236 00:18:20,860 --> 00:18:24,520 And I'm like, man, this is real. This is as real as it get right here. 237 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,220 It was an education for me as well. 238 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,980 I got a chance to get my GED. 239 00:18:31,140 --> 00:18:34,640 I wanted to go to school. I wanted to learn more. I wanted to be able to teach 240 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,640 myself. 241 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:40,960 I got a chance to work on the laundry, you know, and do a detail from that 242 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,480 perspective. Learning about myself. 243 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:46,080 Atone for my mistake and, you know, try to move on in life. 244 00:18:46,580 --> 00:18:51,440 I never went to visit him because I never wanted to see him locked up. 245 00:18:54,060 --> 00:18:56,360 We kept in touch via letter. 246 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,600 In those letters, he talked about his regrets, his dreams, and his goals. 247 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:10,820 I've made the mistake. 248 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:16,740 I own up to it. I'm going to do my time, and I'm going to come out and do 249 00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:23,180 better. I remember talking to him about stick to the goals and not just the 250 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:25,420 dreams, because dreams you have to wake up from. 251 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,340 He needed to stand on his own two feet and be a man. 252 00:19:28,860 --> 00:19:35,540 So he was in the penitentiary for 19 months, and then he came up for parole. 253 00:19:36,620 --> 00:19:37,499 Booker T. 254 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,520 I'm like, yeah, you go. 255 00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:40,820 You're out of here. 256 00:19:42,420 --> 00:19:46,280 I was like, oh, man, you kidding me, right? You know, he's like, yeah, man, 257 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:47,520 you're out of here. Get your stuff. 258 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:53,060 And when I left that prison wall, it was just one guard, and he was sitting on 259 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:54,060 his big horse. 260 00:19:54,490 --> 00:19:55,930 Had his big cowboy hat on. 261 00:19:56,970 --> 00:19:58,830 And he said, I'll see you when you get back. 262 00:20:00,170 --> 00:20:03,450 And got my 200 bucks. 263 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:07,770 They put me on that Greyhound and sent me back to Houston. 264 00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:11,870 Life was what I was going to make it from that point on. 265 00:20:16,750 --> 00:20:19,850 One thing when you got out, you wanted to get your son Brandon back. 266 00:20:20,050 --> 00:20:21,470 You didn't have the money in the bank. 267 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,800 You pulled one last heist. 268 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,200 I was a kid when Brandon was born, myself. 269 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,480 I was 17. 270 00:20:33,540 --> 00:20:38,120 His mom and I, we never was anticipating on getting married or anything like 271 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:44,100 that. It was two kids, having a kid, you know, not knowing anything about life. 272 00:20:44,420 --> 00:20:48,520 When I ended up going to prison, she was on drugs really, really bad. 273 00:20:49,380 --> 00:20:51,640 That's when the CPS came into play. 274 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,080 and took him, and from that point on, he was in foster care. 275 00:20:56,300 --> 00:21:01,140 I wouldn't say I abandoned him or anything like that, but I definitely 276 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,020 dad or a father in the beginning. 277 00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:09,320 Was I going to leave my son in foster care, or was I going to go through the 278 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,800 system and get him out? 279 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,140 And it was a very simple answer. 280 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,940 My mother raised eight kids. How could I look at myself in the mirror and not 281 00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:16,940 raise one? 282 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,000 When I came home, I got parole. 283 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,940 To my sister's house. 284 00:21:22,380 --> 00:21:29,000 And, you know, she was still in the game selling weed. My sister's dealer, you 285 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,020 know, he was supplying, you know, five pounds here, five pounds there. And, you 286 00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:36,520 know, one night I knew where the stash house was. 287 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,820 It was about five pounds. I crept in. 288 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,340 I got all of it. 289 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,380 I got out of there. 290 00:21:45,740 --> 00:21:48,720 You stole from a drug dealer. Stole from the drug dealers. 291 00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:52,520 But for the right reasons. You want to get your son back. 292 00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:54,220 You got to have money in the bank. 293 00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:55,420 I needed money. 294 00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:57,260 And I needed it quick. 295 00:21:57,540 --> 00:22:01,740 And I just needed a platform, a springboard to get out of that life. 296 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,460 But I still needed a little bit more help. And that's when my brother came 297 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:08,440 asked my brother, you know, for a little bit of help. I said, I asked him to 298 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:14,440 help me get a job. You got to get out of this environment if you want to be 299 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,440 something in life. 300 00:22:15,820 --> 00:22:18,160 And that's pretty much the conversation that we had. 301 00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:22,400 I've been put in a position to help him, and that's what I did. 302 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:24,200 But it's up to you to make it work. 303 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280 First job he got me was a security guard. 304 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,820 Fresh out of prison, he gave me a job as a security guard. 305 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,540 And at the time, my brother actually let me stay with him. 306 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,520 I had to prove to the court system that I was worthy of being a dad, and it took 307 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,980 me about a year. Those certain days, I had to make sure I was there, keep a 308 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:45,900 steady job, and I showed him that. 309 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,720 They ended up granting me full custody when Brandon was five years old. 310 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:53,880 You know, we didn't have a lot, but we had each other. You know, we had our 311 00:22:53,980 --> 00:22:58,800 You know, we had our apartment. And I had a job, working that security job. 312 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,200 know, it only lasted for a few months. Then they found out about my prison 313 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,560 record. They told my brother that they was going to have to let me go. But the 314 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,800 guy that I had worked for, his name's Bruce Kisarch, saw me as a human being. 315 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,800 saw my character. 316 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,540 I saw how hard he worked and tried. 317 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,420 We found another job for him. One of the properties we bought was a mini 318 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:23,540 storage, and he ended up helping me run that property, leasing new tenants, 319 00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:27,900 cleaning up the property, making sure that people have paid their rent. 320 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,360 I was working for Bruce. My brother, he was like, hey, man, I know this guy 321 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:35,840 opened an arresting school. You want to try it out? I'm Ivan Putzky. If you've 322 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,420 got what it takes to be a professional wrestler, let me show you the ropes. 323 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,340 You do what you like, and I love wrestling. 324 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Ivan Putzke's freshman school wrestling, I drew. 325 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Hey, I watched him on TV. 326 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,660 People read that, they came in. 327 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:54,640 I'm like, hey man, you doing it, I'll try it out too, you know. 328 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,180 Since I was a kid, whatever my brother was doing, I wanted to be a part of it. 329 00:24:00,580 --> 00:24:03,660 It was like a tag team, even before we were a tag team. 330 00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:06,960 Wrestling school was $4 ,000. 331 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:11,030 I knew I didn't have the money for it, but I was blessed. 332 00:24:11,410 --> 00:24:14,890 My boss, he sponsored me to go to the wrestling school. 333 00:24:15,130 --> 00:24:17,010 He wanted to do something to improve himself. 334 00:24:17,410 --> 00:24:19,970 You want to improve yourself? And I can help. I will. 335 00:24:20,210 --> 00:24:22,450 I had the money available, so I'll help. 336 00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:26,090 And if you're willing to take a little chance, sometimes it pays off. 337 00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:34,110 When Booker T and his brother first arrived, they didn't know a thing about 338 00:24:34,110 --> 00:24:35,110 wrestling. 339 00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:37,420 I mean, they were just green. 340 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:44,880 I just showed them how to get the holes on you, the bumps, the slams, throw 341 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,800 punches. Taught them how to take their falls, how you protect yourself. 342 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,640 Then we blend in their personality. 343 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:54,460 Scott Casey was the main trainer there. 344 00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:57,880 I didn't open the school, but Scott Casey opened our minds. 345 00:24:58,140 --> 00:25:03,700 We went 7 o 'clock to 10 o 'clock, Monday through Friday, for like three 346 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:04,700 straight. 347 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:08,610 This is when I clap it on somebody's head and make it pop. 348 00:25:09,310 --> 00:25:10,490 Goes the weasel. 349 00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:16,030 And after that, they give you a certificate, kind of like these online 350 00:25:16,030 --> 00:25:17,410 that you have today, you know what I'm saying? 351 00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:20,490 90 days, I'm a professor of wrestling, you know what I'm saying? 352 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:22,150 So it's like, wow. 353 00:25:23,210 --> 00:25:25,390 Booker was what you call a natural. 354 00:25:25,670 --> 00:25:27,650 He caught on so fast. 355 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,320 I always wanted to be the best student, you know, in the school, so I would go 356 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,320 and push myself. 357 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:46,680 I would run the rope for five minutes and literally push myself further than 358 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,160 anyone in there could ever think about pushing me. 359 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,360 Man, I got a jewel here. 360 00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:56,720 Notice how I concentrate mainly on the sweep. 361 00:25:57,020 --> 00:25:59,120 We're pumping up these massive quads. 362 00:25:59,420 --> 00:26:03,380 The GI bro can only do oh so well. 363 00:26:06,389 --> 00:26:09,930 I was working at the warehouse, and I had to clean out one of the units. 364 00:26:10,370 --> 00:26:14,090 It was an old army hat in there, and I was like, oh, man, I like this hat. And 365 00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:15,610 went to practice, and I wore the hat. 366 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:20,870 Ivan Pusky goes, that's who you are. From now on, you're G .I. Bro. 367 00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:23,330 And I go, G .I. Bro? 368 00:26:23,890 --> 00:26:25,750 I like that. That's pretty cool. 369 00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:32,070 Right after we finished the course, actually, by the grace of God, Ivan 370 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:33,670 had local television here. 371 00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:37,450 Unless it's Johnny Valiant watching, just like all you other fans out here in 372 00:26:37,450 --> 00:26:42,030 the WWE, of a local favorite here in Houston, Texas, G .I. Bro. This guy is 373 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:45,730 charismatic. G .I. Bro. G .I., brother. He's cranking it up. 374 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:47,970 Yeah. Count him out. 375 00:26:48,370 --> 00:26:49,910 Did you get him? Yes, he did. 376 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:52,230 Control. G .I. Bro. 377 00:26:53,490 --> 00:26:57,290 I got a chance to wrestle in the San Francisco Coliseum, you know, eight 378 00:26:57,290 --> 00:26:58,590 after wrestling school. 379 00:26:59,110 --> 00:27:03,350 I remember after I started wrestling, I had to take payroll to the bank. 380 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,140 And they go, hey, aren't you G .I. Bro? 381 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,640 And I was like, yeah, I'm G .I. Bro. 382 00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:11,220 You know, because they had watched me on television. 383 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,920 Everybody's favorite G .I. Bro. 384 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:21,380 The kids, they would just mob me. And they 385 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:22,269 would just... 386 00:27:22,270 --> 00:27:24,830 And I was like, man, what is going on here? 387 00:27:25,090 --> 00:27:26,090 I got a new haircut. 388 00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:28,010 What you like to see it, man? Yeah, I want to see it. 389 00:27:28,270 --> 00:27:29,270 All right. 390 00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:34,510 G .I. Bro. G .I. Bro is my name. And beat people up is my game. Look in my 391 00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:40,570 That's when I'm going to declare World War III on you and take you clean on the 392 00:27:40,570 --> 00:27:47,450 demon. I don't think I was ever asked one time what I want to be 393 00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:51,070 when I grow up as a kid. I don't think I was ever asked that once. 394 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,460 Then I found myself through wrestling. 395 00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:55,300 It was an escape. 396 00:27:55,620 --> 00:28:00,000 It was something that I could do and I could do it very well. 397 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,160 Put my boots on and become like a superhero for a moment. 398 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,360 I realized I had something. I had a connection. 399 00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:15,060 And I was like, wow, this is so cool. 400 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:21,830 And I had so much fun finding myself as far as possibly who I could be. 401 00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:30,770 After the Western Wrestling Alliance closed down, Booker T and his brother 402 00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:33,370 to work for TAP, Texas All -Pro Wrestling. 403 00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:39,130 I got Stevie Ray in an issue of Wrestling Main Event magazine, and he 404 00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:44,670 noticed. People up in Dallas at the GWF, Global Wrestling, Skander Agbarn called 405 00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:46,510 him. They wanted him to come up to Dallas. 406 00:28:47,150 --> 00:28:48,890 And him and his brother went up there. 407 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Agbar and the Hot Stuff Eddie Gilbert took a liking to him right off the bat. 408 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:55,780 They went to give my brother a tryout. 409 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,700 And my brother was going to Dallas and, of course, jumped in the car and I rode 410 00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:04,120 with him. We finally walk into Eddie Gilbert's office and Eddie Gilbert was 411 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,440 like, who's that? 412 00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:06,780 And I was like, hell, that's my brother. 413 00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:11,520 And he goes, is he a worker? And I go, yeah, he's a worker. He goes, have you 414 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,760 guys ever done any tag team? 415 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,920 And we go, yeah. 416 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,260 We were lying. We had never tagged together before, ever. But we had tagged 417 00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:20,360 against each other before. 418 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120 That's what we were saying. We have tagged together. 419 00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:26,160 And that's why I wasn't lying. 420 00:29:26,860 --> 00:29:29,900 Boom. That's how we got started in the Global Wrestling Federation. 421 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,480 Just by accident. 422 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,000 There was this wrestler back in the day. His name was Mr. Ebony. Black guy. He 423 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,799 wore a mask. 424 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,020 I never knew who Mr. Ebony was. 425 00:29:39,770 --> 00:29:43,150 But he was one of the black guys that was representing us. 426 00:29:43,390 --> 00:29:45,150 So we remembered Mr. 427 00:29:45,370 --> 00:29:47,390 Ebony. Why not be the Ebony Experience? 428 00:29:47,950 --> 00:29:51,430 Booker T and Stevie Ray. The Ebony Experience! 429 00:29:56,210 --> 00:30:02,410 The Global Wrestling Federation was on ESPN at the time, and it was geared 430 00:30:02,410 --> 00:30:08,010 towards... That afternoon, kids coming home from school, 3 .30 in the 431 00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:12,050 There was a 30 -minute show, and there was an hour show. And it was based out 432 00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:16,890 Dallas, Texas, in the world -famous Sportatorium, which I think is just 433 00:30:16,890 --> 00:30:17,950 -famous because it's old. 434 00:30:18,290 --> 00:30:25,290 Ugly. It stunk. No air conditioning. And there were rats the size of dogs. 435 00:30:25,810 --> 00:30:26,870 It had atmosphere. 436 00:30:27,530 --> 00:30:29,430 It had atmosphere. Let's just say that. 437 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,140 It almost took your life in your own hands in this corridor. 438 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,020 Back then, the police, if somebody tried to stick you with a knife or hit you 439 00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:40,200 with a whiskey bottle or something, they would bring them back to the dressing 440 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,860 room and literally let you beat them up. It was the Wild West. 441 00:30:44,540 --> 00:30:47,040 But there was a huge racist element there, too. 442 00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:52,720 People would sit there and shout out some of the most vile things imaginable 443 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,720 those guys. 444 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,420 We got called the N -word, of course. 445 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,500 They didn't want to see us. 446 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,220 And those people called us every racial epithet known to man. 447 00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:10,980 It wasn't the first time I had dealt with racism in my life. 448 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,480 When I first got in the wrestling business, a very, very famous man by the 449 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,760 of Ox Baker, he told me, he said, kid, you got a lot of talent, but you're 450 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,260 to come up against a lot of obstacles in this business. 451 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,140 He didn't say racism or anything like that. 452 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,720 But I knew exactly what he was talking about. You got to figure a way around 453 00:31:31,780 --> 00:31:36,620 under it. You may have to go over it. And that night, we had to go right 454 00:31:36,620 --> 00:31:37,960 it, no matter what. 455 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:46,460 In the situation that you're in, you got to be able to adapt. 456 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,440 You got to be able to figure it out. We had to face the fire, and we dealt with 457 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,210 it. Gotta say, where did these guys come up with this Ebony experience? 458 00:31:54,450 --> 00:31:56,950 What are they, a magazine or something like that for ugly people? 459 00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:02,310 But... I learned the power of entertainment that night. I did the 460 00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:06,710 that match. He did some type of hop, skip, spin type thing I never saw 461 00:32:06,890 --> 00:32:10,070 Did you see that? What was that? They used to have them breakdance moves. He 462 00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:14,210 some spin. Same guy that was calling me the N -word. He was totally excited when 463 00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:18,930 he saw the Spinaroonie. It totally changed him all in one breath. 464 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:20,510 It was like, whoa, what was that? 465 00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:22,430 Fans start to change. 466 00:32:23,030 --> 00:32:25,150 Now the fans are rooting for us. 467 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,480 It was like the Rocky movie, man, when Rocky was fighting Drago. 468 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,820 The Russian fans started rooting for the underdog. 469 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,440 Because when I did the Spinaruni, it seemed like everything changed in that 470 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:51,260 arena. I realized how much power the Spinaruni had, not just in Global 471 00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:53,780 Federation with those fans, but throughout my whole career. 472 00:32:57,390 --> 00:33:01,010 We all love to dance. My mom loved to see us dance. 473 00:33:01,210 --> 00:33:06,770 And we all had good rhythm, too. Still have good rhythm. My cousin. Come over 474 00:33:06,770 --> 00:33:08,690 here, man. This is my cousin right here, man. 475 00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:13,370 The neighborhood boys were always trying to outdo each other with their dance 476 00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:15,230 moves. That was the competition. 477 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,660 Michael Jackson had nothing on my brother. He used to break dance on the 478 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,540 That's where I learned to spin a rooney on his patio right around the corner, 479 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,280 you know. We would be on that patio. We had a cardboard box out there. We had a 480 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,959 beat box. 481 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,900 We'd be out there breaking ourselves, man. 482 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,200 But that's where the spin a rooney came from. 483 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,440 That's where they learned those moves. That's where they learned to spin. So 484 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,560 that spin a rooney came from a pop -lock dance move. 485 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,980 Ladies and gentlemen, they're dynamic, they're sensational, they're the 486 00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:55,520 The lockers, they were it. That was the best dance group perhaps in the history 487 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,520 of the world. 488 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,680 Fred rerun Barry used to be on the show What's Happening. He was actually in one 489 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,340 of the lockers. And just watching these guys move the way they did and perform 490 00:34:07,340 --> 00:34:10,340 the way they performed, I wanted to be in the group. 491 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,940 When I was a kid, I wanted to be one of the lockers. You know, when I saw them 492 00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:17,659 on Soul Train, I was like, man, how do I get on Soul Train? Man, I got to be a 493 00:34:17,659 --> 00:34:18,659 part of this. 494 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,679 The pop, lock, and craze start curving off a little bit, and then the 495 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,620 breakdancing curves start coming around. 496 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,120 I said, man, I'm going to try this now. So any wrestling fan around the world, 497 00:34:35,219 --> 00:34:37,719 you say Spinner Rooney, they know who you're talking about. 498 00:34:39,179 --> 00:34:40,179 You're going down. 499 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:42,900 We're going to take you out to the Ebony Zone. We're going to drop you off at 500 00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:44,139 just some Ebony Funk, man. 501 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,219 It wasn't about how much money I was making. 502 00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:52,560 It was just being able to do something that you love doing so much that you 503 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,240 would do it for free. And my brother and I, we was making 125 bucks, you know, 504 00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,620 to make the drive all the way from Houston to Dallas. 505 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:05,240 And sometimes we would work four times in one night, sleep on my sister's sofa, 506 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,140 then get up and make the drive back to Houston. 507 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,720 Junior wore out the couch in my den. 508 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,360 Stevie Ray Lash wore out the couch in my living room. They would come every 509 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,040 Friday, and I know they did that for a couple of years. 510 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,100 It was just a great time to watch them get better and more popular. 511 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:32,980 The fans weakly warmed up, and they started liking something that they 512 00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:33,980 even know they liked. 513 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,440 And then we started getting more black fans coming into the arena. 514 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,940 You just couldn't say anything anymore. 515 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,960 Within a few months, we were the hottest thing in global. 516 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,620 Everybody in the place had a sign with the Ebony Cabarrus on it. 517 00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:13,660 We finally got to that point where we had to win the tag team championship, 518 00:36:13,660 --> 00:36:15,180 all of my family was there. 519 00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:22,020 That night that they won, we screamed and we cried. 520 00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:29,140 It was so great, and all I could think about was that I wish my mom was there 521 00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:30,140 see that. 522 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,980 My brother and I, we had accomplished something that we never dreamt of 523 00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:37,560 accomplishing in our lives. 524 00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:43,730 We had watched wrestling on television for so many years, and then we're the 525 00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:45,690 ones who got the belts and holding them up. 526 00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:50,450 These guys are superstars. You knew they were going somewhere. 527 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:54,310 There was not a doubt in anybody's mind. It was like Hansel and Gretel. 528 00:36:55,470 --> 00:36:59,290 Somebody was dropping crumbs, and we were picking them up. 529 00:37:03,340 --> 00:37:07,480 My brother and I, we had regular jobs, and we worked in the Global Wrestling 530 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,980 Federation one night a week. 531 00:37:09,740 --> 00:37:13,320 And we did that for 18 months straight. We were getting ready to work one night, 532 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:17,880 and the phone rang, and my name, Mike Davis, came in and goes, hey, man, Sid 533 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,180 Vicious would like to talk to you guys. 534 00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:25,420 Sid Vicious had been watching us on television, and WCW was interested in 535 00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:26,640 were, like, really excited. 536 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,380 You know, like, wow, Sid Vicious, man, wow. 537 00:37:30,819 --> 00:37:35,300 And WCW, wow, one of the biggest companies in the world, and we had a 538 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,660 spot. We just had to come up with a name. 539 00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:41,860 Houston Heat might have been put in there, Miami Heat. We was like, what 540 00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:42,860 Harlem Heat? 541 00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:47,480 Harlem Heat, okay, you get a picture in your mind as to what Harlem Heat should 542 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,060 be. And boom, you start going for it. 543 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,500 artistically we needed some cool shirts and uh we didn't have uh no one to make 544 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:59,360 them for so i didn't know the country group or anything but it turned out to 545 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,980 brooks and dunn and they had shirts and they had this cool flame pattern on them 546 00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:10,420 so i went got us some brooks and dunn shirts that i've had them tailored we 547 00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:14,560 the hats out of the spoons actually uh because they had flames on them as well 548 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,450 the ensemble actually came together and looked pretty cool You know, we're going 549 00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:20,690 to see a new tag team, the Harlem Heat. 550 00:38:20,910 --> 00:38:24,870 And what an appropriate name, seeing that Harlem has been about 100 degrees 551 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:25,870 last two weeks. 552 00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:29,410 As a kid, you just like all the bright colors and the energy. 553 00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:33,290 I just feel like they represented us. You know, it felt like they was from 554 00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:35,770 around my way. Like, you know what I'm saying? How they talk, how they dress, 555 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:36,689 how they carry themselves. 556 00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:40,630 And even their music was tight. Like, they had the best music on WCW, like, 557 00:38:40,650 --> 00:38:41,650 probably ever. 558 00:38:41,970 --> 00:38:43,670 Harlem Heat had cool ring music. 559 00:38:57,330 --> 00:39:01,270 They were two guys who were coming in who were bad to the bone, man. 560 00:39:01,550 --> 00:39:04,990 And they were going to talk it. They were going to walk it. And they were 561 00:39:04,990 --> 00:39:05,990 to kick your ass. 562 00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:14,680 They had an aura about them. They were big. They were intimidating. 563 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,840 They were scary like big wrestlers should be. 564 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:21,920 With the name Harlem Heat. 565 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,400 I mean, come on. You can't come up with a better name than that anywhere. 566 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:34,500 All the years my brother and I slept in the same bed, we were a cohesive unit. 567 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,580 Both of us brought the pain in our own way. My brother was grounded. Sometimes 568 00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:41,359 would go air. 569 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,180 But together, we gelled. 570 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:54,240 Harlem Heat did not really 571 00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:00,440 have a gimmick. They were just big black badasses that really were themselves 572 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,440 turned up. 573 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,560 When they talked, I felt like if I ran into them in the street, that would be 574 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,560 exactly how they are. 575 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,460 The moves you punks making, the routes you're taking, it's going to lead to 576 00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:14,820 heartbreak. This country hit town of Tupelo, Mississippi, going to get a lot 577 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:21,520 heat raised up. Any gimmick that really works is an exaggeration of who 578 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,520 you are. 579 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,860 It was so easy to actually go out and know what it's like to be in a fight, 580 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,720 because when you've been fighting your whole life, you know what it feels like. 581 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,140 You know what it's like to get hit in the mouth as well. 582 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,740 For my brother and I to go out and produce drama from a realistic 583 00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:41,920 was just our fuel house. We were at home. 584 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,640 We created these two guys. 585 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,480 Now we got to be these two guys. 586 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:48,460 A lot of times I just want to come out and just bust out laughing. 587 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,460 But I got to hold it in. 588 00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:54,860 And I got to try to keep this mean look on my face, man. I have to put myself 589 00:40:54,860 --> 00:40:56,060 into this character. 590 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,220 I got to go into him all the way. What the run, them hillbillies? 591 00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:01,870 Straight out of the hill, sucker! 592 00:41:02,170 --> 00:41:07,110 We had so much fun going down the road in certain towns. Somebody is going to 593 00:41:07,110 --> 00:41:10,710 get a Harlem hangover. People just hating us to the point to where, man, 594 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:12,330 want to kill these black guys. 595 00:41:12,610 --> 00:41:15,830 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Black Hills of South Dakota. 596 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:21,070 250 ,000 bikers are here for WCW All Wild. 597 00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:23,390 There's no black folks there. None. 598 00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:27,970 We're the only two black folks. None. It's Thursday, South Dakota at that 599 00:41:29,859 --> 00:41:31,360 We almost started a riot. 600 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:40,320 Even the Steiner brothers was like, hey, man, don't do what 601 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,400 y 'all usually do every night, because y 'all got the Hells Angels out there. We 602 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,940 don't even know who the Hells Angels are, you know? 603 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,920 We're getting ready to go do what we do. 604 00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:50,340 You just don't have to watch this, because we're getting ready to get in 605 00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:52,940 everybody's you -know -what, Hells Angels or not. 606 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,240 We get out the ring and start talking trash to everybody. 607 00:41:59,299 --> 00:42:01,160 You know, I got a problem with rednecks. 608 00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:04,960 And as far as I'm concerned, everybody in here is a redneck. You know what I'm 609 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,960 saying? 610 00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:08,980 Come on up in this ring and watch what happened to you. 611 00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:11,740 Not everybody's infuriated. 612 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:17,900 By the time we got through... Oh, yeah, we got a roar going now. 613 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,680 25 ,000 motorcycles, it sounds like. As far as you can see, motorcycles and 614 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,920 people, and all of them revving their engines at the same time. 615 00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:27,500 They're cranking up a sound. 616 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,880 Oh, yeah. 617 00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:32,300 Because we just told them what we thought of them. 618 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:42,000 Harlem Heat was able to pull it off so well 619 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,100 that the people in Harlem felt represented by a couple of Texas boys. 620 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,620 The Harlem Heat, they are bad men off the streets of uptown Manhattan in the 621 00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:52,620 heart of Harlem. And gentlemen. 622 00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:56,600 Yes, Cole. Shut up, Mean Gene, before I slap a patch of hair out of the top of 623 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,760 your head. Being able to talk about certain landmarks in Harlem that we 624 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,200 fictitiously, you know, thought up in our own minds. 625 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,260 It was really, really cool. You know, one of the places that we used to visit 626 00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:11,520 all the time was Artie's Pool Hall. 627 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,080 Three blocks south of Artie's Pool Hall, right on the corner of 110th Street. 628 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,980 Gene, the graffiti is written all over the neighborhood. 629 00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:23,560 You're looking at a couple of straight OGs from the hood. 630 00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:28,400 I've had several people come up to me to talk about when we were kids back then. 631 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:33,500 Did I remember them from, you know, back in the day? Of course you go, yeah, 632 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,320 yeah, yeah, I remember you. Yeah, yeah, you know, you go right along with it. 633 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,460 Only click you need to know about is the heart. Booker T is the most viral 634 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:46,000 wrestling moment of all time, I guess, right? Because he flips up, says the N 635 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,140 -word. We coming for you. 636 00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:53,600 That was the problem with ad -libbing back then. That's probably why they 637 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,660 everybody's stuff today. 638 00:43:54,860 --> 00:43:56,920 And that's a word that we use a whole lot. 639 00:43:57,450 --> 00:44:00,870 back in the day when I was coming up, and that's the first time and the last 640 00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:03,390 time any of my peers ever heard me say that. 641 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,140 It is an interesting lesson to not get lost in your character or not being too 642 00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:10,900 real when you're talking about somebody. 643 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,160 But that's the risk you run when you are as authentic a character as Booker T 644 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,240 is, right? 645 00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:20,340 That's right. We've been to her feet, punk. Harlem style, if you know what I'm 646 00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:24,060 saying. When I think about the early 90s and I think about the black characters 647 00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:29,140 like your Coco Bewares and your Papa Shongos and people who fit a lot of 648 00:44:29,140 --> 00:44:31,220 stereotypes but also did not get put. 649 00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:42,000 So watching two black guys who go on to win championships and did not 650 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,020 back down from who they were was great to watch. But also what's important is 651 00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:47,740 that these are two brothers, right? 652 00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:56,640 So seeing a familial relationship between black guys on TV who genuinely 653 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,420 loved each other, who celebrated together, who had each other's back was 654 00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:01,420 empowering. 655 00:45:02,250 --> 00:45:06,730 That was so important for my brother and I to go out there and represent because 656 00:45:06,730 --> 00:45:10,310 we knew young guys like we were was watching us now. 657 00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:16,910 Harlem Heat will go down in history as being one of the greatest tag teams that 658 00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:18,030 ever put on a pair of boots. 659 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:27,670 That was just me and my brother being a natural born entertainer. 660 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:30,150 And that's what we pride ourselves on. 661 00:45:30,820 --> 00:45:33,940 Those are memories that me and my brother will live with for the rest of 662 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:35,760 lives. It was a journey. 663 00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:39,200 It was the coolest nine years of my life. 664 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,280 All -time greats. 665 00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:44,600 We're immortalized forever in the WWE Hall of Fame. 666 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,300 I never thought about having a singles career. 667 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,940 Never thought about it until it happened. 668 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,120 how Booker T can operate as a single wrestler. 669 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,800 I never thought about having a singles career. 670 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,920 Never thought about it until it happened. 671 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,860 I told my brother, man, go ahead and go. Go ahead and do your thing. 672 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,460 And I gave him my blessing. 673 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:24,160 As Booker T goes solo, WCW starts getting to this point where they're 674 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,240 the biggest wrestling promotion in the world. 675 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,120 WCW was using money from the Turner organization. They were part of a bigger 676 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,120 corporation. 677 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:40,660 Scott Hall and Kevin Nash end up leaving the WWE for a lot of money in WCW. And 678 00:46:40,660 --> 00:46:46,980 they start this reality -based storyline of a takeover and formed a group with 679 00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:51,440 Hulk Hogan, who for the first time in his career became a bad guy, unheard of 680 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,520 the time, and started the New World Order. 681 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,700 The following announcement. 682 00:46:56,220 --> 00:46:58,240 has been paid for by the New World Order. 683 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,000 When I came out as Hollywood Hulk Hogan, NWO, we took off like a rocket. So the 684 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,620 Monday Night War started getting really, really intense. 685 00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:08,600 We had Monday Night Raw on the USA Network. 686 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:15,380 They had Monday Nitro on TNT, on Ted Turner's network. You're looking at 687 00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:19,900 single rating point, every eyeball we were competing for. 688 00:47:20,980 --> 00:47:24,060 They beat us for 83 weeks in the ratings. 689 00:47:25,540 --> 00:47:28,300 WCW became the top game in town. 690 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,400 Honestly, 691 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,020 I really didn't care about the war. 692 00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:37,220 It had nothing to do with me. 693 00:47:37,940 --> 00:47:42,860 I was making a lot of money. I was in a place in my life that I'd never imagined 694 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:44,880 being in a million years. 695 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,260 As they're concentrating on the other big stars, Booker T right under their 696 00:47:50,260 --> 00:47:51,260 noses. 697 00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:54,130 It's just getting better and better and better and better. 698 00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:59,910 My peers, they always told me, there's only one Tiger Woods of wrestling. 699 00:48:01,370 --> 00:48:03,490 And I go, I appreciate that, bro. 700 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:06,170 That's when he became no longer a tag guy. 701 00:48:06,570 --> 00:48:09,370 That's when it was just like, oh, okay, he's a star. 702 00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:12,030 You can tell when somebody has the it factor. 703 00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:17,590 Booker T just looked mean at that material. He carried himself like the 704 00:48:17,590 --> 00:48:18,650 the limit. He had it all. 705 00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:22,970 I used to raise the roof back then. When I used to raise the roof, everybody 706 00:48:22,970 --> 00:48:24,650 used to raise the roof with me. 707 00:48:26,890 --> 00:48:29,850 And it let me know that, hey, I was moving up. 708 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:35,250 And it was the beginning of my run as a singles wrestler and a whole different 709 00:48:35,250 --> 00:48:36,250 life. 710 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,700 I was born and raised in Gary, Indiana. 711 00:48:43,020 --> 00:48:44,320 Had a great childhood. 712 00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:48,400 I caught the entertainment bug very, very early. I started doing beauty 713 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,300 when I was 12 years old. So that was always something that I enjoyed. And 714 00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:56,480 was always into dancing. That was my first love. So all that ended up paying 715 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,280 off. You know, I went on to become Miss Black America. I ended up touring with 716 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,420 James Brown, Godfather of Soul. So I spent three and a half years on the road 717 00:49:04,420 --> 00:49:06,880 touring with him and then ended up in sports entertainment. 718 00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:08,440 Here are the Nitro Girls! 719 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,740 We met back at WCW when she was a Nitro girl. 720 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,440 We started talking a little bit on the movie set of Ready to Rumble. 721 00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:22,320 Then we just gradually became friends. 722 00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:27,000 He was always very polite, very well -dressed, and he looked like a 723 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,520 instead of a professional wrestler. 724 00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:30,440 That was my first impression of him. 725 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,760 But I will never forget when I heard him listening to Tupac, and that surprised 726 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,520 me because to me I thought he would listen to Frank Sinatra. 727 00:49:39,130 --> 00:49:43,250 Not Tupac, so I got to know a few things about him. 728 00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:46,950 He's a great guy all around. I got to see he's really, really funny. 729 00:49:47,530 --> 00:49:49,170 He's really, really silly. 730 00:49:49,450 --> 00:49:51,590 So we just kind of gelled. We just kind of met. 731 00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:56,290 And it was very exciting to see Booker be able to carve out a path for himself 732 00:49:56,290 --> 00:49:58,610 because he was such an amazing talent. 733 00:50:00,310 --> 00:50:05,750 WCW, welcome you to the summertime tradition, the world championship. 734 00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:16,580 All the backstage drama that went on that night put more light over me 735 00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:17,580 winning the championship. 736 00:50:17,860 --> 00:50:24,040 Me winning it just would have been me winning. The title match is between Jeff 737 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,680 Jarrett and Hulk Hogan. The story is that Hulk Hogan wants to win, doesn't 738 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,700 to lose to Jeff Jarrett. Jeff Jarrett's the champion. The writer, Vince Russo, 739 00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:34,700 he doesn't want... 740 00:50:34,830 --> 00:50:38,310 Hogan to be the champion, he wants Jeff Jarrett to hold on to it. They can't 741 00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:42,670 come to an agreement because Hulk Hogan, in real life, has a creative control 742 00:50:42,670 --> 00:50:44,230 clause in his contract. 743 00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:46,930 There's a million stories, and everybody has their opinion. 744 00:50:47,530 --> 00:50:52,390 All I know is when I signed on with WCW, I had what's called creative control. 745 00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:55,890 I'm going to exercise my creative control. I'm going to go ahead and beat 746 00:50:55,890 --> 00:50:58,990 Jarrett one, two, three. It went right up Russo's ass. 747 00:51:00,070 --> 00:51:01,110 What's going on? 748 00:51:01,790 --> 00:51:04,990 What's Jeff doing? The Russo, I think, told Jarrett to lie down. What's going 749 00:51:04,990 --> 00:51:06,370 on? And Jarrett's down. 750 00:51:06,670 --> 00:51:11,410 And Hogan is as shot as we are. What in the world? Jeff Jarrett. My God, this is 751 00:51:11,410 --> 00:51:13,610 real life. One, two, three. 752 00:51:14,130 --> 00:51:16,710 I took the belt and I left. 753 00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:20,730 What the hell? I think we're deviating from the script. I hesitate to say that, 754 00:51:20,750 --> 00:51:21,770 but what the hell is going on? 755 00:51:22,110 --> 00:51:23,110 Is this storyline? 756 00:51:23,350 --> 00:51:26,030 Is this real life? Is this some weird mixture? 757 00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:32,250 Vince Russo says they have two world championships now. There will be a new 758 00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:36,710 belt. Jeff Jarrett and Booker T fight for it later on in the evening. 759 00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:41,210 Opportunity has knocked and I will be damned if I don't answer that door. I am 760 00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:45,090 going to do what I have to do tonight to take that gold home, take it around my 761 00:51:45,090 --> 00:51:49,270 waist and take it into the next millennium. Can you dig that, G? I can. 762 00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:50,270 back to you. 763 00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:54,050 Not just did the fans not expect. 764 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:59,260 this to be going on me and booker didn't expect it to be going home i watched 765 00:51:59,260 --> 00:52:05,720 everything play out just like america i had about 10 minutes to prepare for the 766 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:10,760 biggest moment of my life in professional wrestling but i was 767 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:16,270 got there by working my ass off and i started at the bottom of that company 768 00:52:16,270 --> 00:52:20,770 I went out and I performed every single night. It's been a long journey, a lot 769 00:52:20,770 --> 00:52:23,650 of titles, but never the big one. This is Booker T's chance. 770 00:52:26,410 --> 00:52:30,450 When I finally got in that position, I always wondered if the fans wanted to 771 00:52:30,450 --> 00:52:31,450 a black champion. 772 00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:35,690 WCW hadn't had a black champion since Ron Simmons. 773 00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:39,410 It was a lot of questions in my mind. 774 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,700 You know, if the fans really, really wanted to see me in that position, I'm 775 00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:51,820 so happy that people look past my color and said, this is the guy. 776 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,220 Booker T and Jeff Jarrett crawling through the crowd. 777 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,460 He's the world champion! 778 00:53:19,940 --> 00:53:22,140 Crowd erupted. They went crazy. 779 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,080 I was like, wow, man, they really care about me. They really want to see me 780 00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:28,580 It was the moment that changed my life. 781 00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:36,820 One of my most fond memories in my career, I'm the guy that Booker beat to 782 00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:39,500 become the world champion for his very first title reign. 783 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:41,080 I'm pretty proud of that. 784 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,660 He became champion, and it was a great crowning achievement for him, evolving 785 00:53:47,660 --> 00:53:49,440 and elevating himself. 786 00:53:49,780 --> 00:53:55,600 And Booker T, especially for black boys and girls who watch wrestling, he is a 787 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,600 hero. 788 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,240 Booker has so much respect from all the guys and girls in the locker room that 789 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:08,180 when he came back through the curtain after winning, people were standing 790 00:54:08,180 --> 00:54:08,919 and applauding. 791 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,380 I remember a few of us had tears in our eyes. It just really was a special 792 00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:17,380 moment to finally see him rise to the top because he really deserved it. 793 00:54:30,860 --> 00:54:34,340 WWE was synonymous with the best in sports entertainment. 794 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:41,460 How you doing, pal? I'm fine. And now we were being challenged, so it creates an 795 00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:45,780 atmosphere of having to fight from underneath, creating new and unique 796 00:54:45,780 --> 00:54:52,620 storylines, new and unique talents, and changing the way we looked 797 00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:53,620 at the business. 798 00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:57,440 It made WWE regroup. 799 00:54:57,870 --> 00:55:01,090 Taking the gloves off and changing what the company was and going with the 800 00:55:01,090 --> 00:55:02,090 attitude era. 801 00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:12,110 Somebody's going to get their ass whipped. When that energy comes out, 802 00:55:12,110 --> 00:55:16,050 intensity comes out, and I look like an ass -kicking machine, it was all about 803 00:55:16,050 --> 00:55:17,050 the attitude. 804 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,880 We had a badass locker room full of men who had starved, kicked, scratched, 805 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:42,560 clawed to get to the top and who weren't afraid to go out on a limb and push the 806 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,560 envelope. 807 00:55:49,710 --> 00:55:54,290 When we started kicking WCW's ass, we just took off. And their infrastructure 808 00:55:54,290 --> 00:55:57,990 was kind of unorganized and kind of started falling apart. 809 00:55:58,470 --> 00:56:03,350 And then we just crushed them. And then, later on down the road, Vince would buy 810 00:56:03,350 --> 00:56:06,510 the company from Ted Turner for pennies on the dollar. 811 00:56:06,830 --> 00:56:10,810 I, Vince McMahon, bought my competition. 812 00:56:11,210 --> 00:56:12,210 That's right. 813 00:56:12,490 --> 00:56:15,230 I own WCW. 814 00:56:15,610 --> 00:56:18,610 They raised the flag, and they say we won. 815 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,760 The war is over. For all of us in world championship wrestling, a historic day 816 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,920 in sports entertainment. This is the last Nitro on the Turner Network, and 817 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,720 going out with the bang. All the titles on the line. 818 00:56:31,540 --> 00:56:33,240 I didn't know it was going to happen. 819 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,180 I didn't see it coming. Until that night, I found out that I was going to 820 00:56:38,180 --> 00:56:39,600 going out dual champ. 821 00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:44,840 We closed the company down as world champion and as United States champion. 822 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:10,760 I didn't feel sad like everybody else did. I lost my mother when I was 13, so 823 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,620 always knew nothing lasts forever. 824 00:57:13,629 --> 00:57:17,350 I remember one of the guys actually talking to me and he literally had tears 825 00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:20,730 his eyes. He was like, man, Booker, it's the end of WCW, man. 826 00:57:21,090 --> 00:57:22,090 It's over. 827 00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:25,050 He goes, man, what are you going to do, man? What are you going to do? 828 00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:27,270 I said, man, I'm going to WWE. 829 00:57:28,030 --> 00:57:30,990 I mean, what else could I do? 830 00:57:33,830 --> 00:57:39,510 I don't think we knew that we were going to keep Booker. 831 00:57:40,050 --> 00:57:41,050 I had no idea. 832 00:57:41,130 --> 00:57:42,690 When you're looking at... 833 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:48,620 The talent base, and you're looking at talent that's available, all of these 834 00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:55,500 -tier talents chose to stay on their AOL Time Warner contract, stay at 835 00:57:55,500 --> 00:58:02,100 home, collect their money, not go to work. I stayed at home for 17 months and 836 00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:03,520 got paid bank. 837 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,920 Bank. But then you have a guy, Booker T. 838 00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:12,170 Who did have a pretty good guaranteed contract. 839 00:58:13,130 --> 00:58:15,330 Who said, man, I want to work. 840 00:58:17,070 --> 00:58:19,530 I want to be a star on the biggest platform I can. 841 00:58:19,810 --> 00:58:21,430 I was a performer. I was talent. 842 00:58:21,810 --> 00:58:23,610 Something I tell young people all the time. 843 00:58:23,850 --> 00:58:25,690 Believe in your talent. 844 00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:27,830 Do not forsake your talent. 845 00:58:28,270 --> 00:58:31,930 Going into the WWE locker room, those guys didn't do much care for us. 846 00:58:32,130 --> 00:58:33,930 They weren't going to treat us special or anything. 847 00:58:34,310 --> 00:58:35,330 They didn't want us there. 848 00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:37,130 And I understood that. 849 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,560 I was ready to go out there and show those guys I was just as good as I said 850 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,560 was. 851 00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:48,780 Booker had enough confidence in himself to step up and say, put me in. 852 00:59:09,860 --> 00:59:11,620 Man, it was a good night for me. 853 00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:13,920 Debut, dropped Steve Austin. 854 00:59:15,140 --> 00:59:16,340 I'm off and running. 855 00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:17,700 Everything's beautiful. 856 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,040 My first thought was, hey, man, Booker T just came in here. He just took away 857 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,280 what I do for a living. 858 00:59:24,580 --> 00:59:29,620 Broke three transverse processes in my back, and I was in intense pain. 859 00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:33,800 And I was like, what in the F just happened? 860 00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:42,700 There is that layer of, hey, man, we need to watch this guy, or is he safe to 861 00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:44,860 work with, or is he going to do that to me? 862 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,040 Steve Austin had to kind of stroke at that time in the company where he could 863 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,000 have went to the office and said, man, this guy is reckless and doesn't know 864 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,420 what he's doing, even though it wasn't my fault. When I look back at it, he did 865 00:59:56,420 --> 00:59:58,920 everything right. He executed with perfection. 866 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,300 But I was so sweaty when I hit the top of that desk, I just skipped off and my 867 01:00:04,300 --> 01:00:05,360 back hit a chair. 868 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,200 It was an accident. 869 01:00:07,660 --> 01:00:08,638 Accidents happen. 870 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,780 But, hey, man, any time the lead guy goes down and someone has done something 871 01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:15,560 him, yeah, you might have some heat on you from the voice. 872 01:00:15,780 --> 01:00:19,420 You walk in the door coming from somewhere else and you take out one of 873 01:00:19,420 --> 01:00:22,720 guys that's putting food on all our tables, that's not going to sit well 874 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,660 lot of people because most of these guys never met him. 875 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,900 Who in the blue hell are you? Coming into that company, it wasn't going to be 876 01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:33,420 easy for me by any means. 877 01:00:33,980 --> 01:00:37,660 Hell, my name is Booker. It doesn't matter what your name is! 878 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,340 You can bring someone in up at the top. 879 01:00:43,860 --> 01:00:48,040 It's difficult for them to stay there, especially when you have the kind of 880 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,760 personality and the kind of talent of a Steve Austin rock undertaker. 881 01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:10,140 Book hung. 882 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,980 Book hung and said, y 'all come on up to me. But the bottom line is, if you come 883 01:01:14,980 --> 01:01:17,640 to WWE, you better be able to work. 884 01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:22,240 And Booker T could work his ass off. He wasn't accepted just because we liked 885 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,280 him. He was accepted because he was damn good. 886 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,180 It was kind of a Jack Nicholson, wait till they get a load of me. 887 01:01:29,340 --> 01:01:31,680 Yeah, Big Henry, you better lay some up tonight. 888 01:01:32,220 --> 01:01:35,060 Because we're going to be moving and flying and singing, baby. 889 01:01:35,980 --> 01:01:39,380 The greats can't stick to a script. 890 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:40,800 It's emotional. 891 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,860 To make it real, it's got to look raw. 892 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,840 It's got to look uncut. 893 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:50,900 If we're close enough to the fans, I want sweat to fly all over them. 894 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,860 That part is as real as it possibly can get. 895 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,980 Book has a unique ability to relate to the audience and conversely. And that's 896 01:02:02,980 --> 01:02:07,140 really what you look for. He's a man who gave it all. He had an opportunity. He 897 01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:08,140 was going with it. 898 01:02:08,580 --> 01:02:13,120 I want the fan that was watching to have that same feeling that I did. 899 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,320 It was an out -of -body experience. 900 01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:19,260 I could tell what the fans were feeling because I was one of them. 901 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,380 You would have never thought that somebody with the talent that he had in 902 01:02:26,380 --> 01:02:27,380 ring 903 01:02:27,390 --> 01:02:29,770 He would have just as much talent behind the scenes. 904 01:02:30,090 --> 01:02:32,290 You can't just define him as a wrestler. 905 01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:35,870 He was an entertainer. Now can you dig that? 906 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,820 Booker watches a lot of movies. He's always studied movies his whole life, 907 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,460 whether it be kung fu movies or, you know, any type of action movie. So I 908 01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:56,340 do believe that if he weren't a wrestler, he would definitely be an 909 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:03,920 A lot of those movies were my escapes as well. 910 01:03:03,940 --> 01:03:08,480 And I used to skip school and go to the majestic OST. And all of those movies 911 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,700 made me feel a certain way. I literally would. 912 01:03:10,990 --> 01:03:14,910 Go to that place. A little bit more structure here. I literally would be in 913 01:03:14,910 --> 01:03:16,830 movie. I knew every line. 914 01:03:17,090 --> 01:03:18,090 I knew every scene. 915 01:03:18,450 --> 01:03:23,330 I knew what made that scene work because of what happened before it and what's 916 01:03:23,330 --> 01:03:27,290 going to happen after. And that's what wrestling has always been. So for me, my 917 01:03:27,290 --> 01:03:31,870 WCW career was so serious all the time. It was never a laughing moment. 918 01:03:32,170 --> 01:03:35,090 And then when I got to WWE, everything changed. 919 01:03:35,810 --> 01:03:40,300 Booyah! Hey, what's up, suckas? You ass! He was about to get whacked by the 920 01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:42,760 firetop Master Jedi Champion. 921 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,620 Now can you dig that? 922 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,480 Sucker! 923 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,880 He was always a comedian. 924 01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:52,820 He always liked to make people laugh. 925 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,980 Tell me I don't look like that! 926 01:03:56,220 --> 01:03:57,220 That just came. 927 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,780 And we would all do little skits at home and make up things. So, you know, just 928 01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:07,440 what kids do who don't have a lot of money. You have a great imagination. 929 01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:13,680 Imagine what we could be and what we could do. 930 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,420 You didn't say that. 931 01:04:20,020 --> 01:04:22,540 Tell me you didn't just say that. 932 01:04:24,060 --> 01:04:27,080 You just gave me the key to your heart, baby. 933 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:28,680 Yeah. 934 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:34,680 It's like the actor in a film that you've only seen play a very serious, 935 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,200 role. Oh, my goodness. 936 01:04:37,820 --> 01:04:40,560 And then you see him in a buddy comedy, and you're like, oh, my God, I had no 937 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,200 idea this guy was so funny. And, like, it just opens up a whole new world for 938 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:49,380 you. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. Look, that 939 01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:54,340 ain't me, bro. You know, I got to feel what I'm doing, man. I got to feel, man, 940 01:04:54,420 --> 01:04:55,580 can you dig it? 941 01:04:56,060 --> 01:04:57,060 Sucker! 942 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:04,760 Just because you know kung fu doesn't mean you know shampoo. 943 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:11,820 But that's... All about to change thanks to new Yakimoshi 944 01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:12,820 Shampoo. 945 01:05:14,620 --> 01:05:20,880 It won't make your hair look as good as mine, but you got to start somewhere. 946 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,520 Give me the script and let me make it what I want it to be, no matter what it 947 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,820 is. I don't care what it is. 948 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,840 Now, let's see if it's fresh. 949 01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:34,740 Creative tells us, hey man, you and Booker are going to have this brawl in a 950 01:05:34,740 --> 01:05:35,740 grocery store. 951 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:41,040 Okay, here's a blank canvas that Booker T and I are going to have an opportunity 952 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,200 to paint together. 953 01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:43,500 Action. 954 01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:47,260 We created magic. 955 01:06:07,250 --> 01:06:11,470 I'm walking through the store, up an aisle, down an aisle. You're working off 956 01:06:11,470 --> 01:06:13,390 instincts. I like shopping, Booker. 957 01:06:14,050 --> 01:06:18,270 As if you were in the ring. You know you're trying to entertain people. 958 01:06:23,030 --> 01:06:25,190 Booker with a shot to the jaw of Austin. 959 01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:29,390 I'm action. 960 01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:34,190 His reaction and his reactions were just off the chart gold. 961 01:06:34,530 --> 01:06:35,530 You want to burn? 962 01:06:37,150 --> 01:06:41,350 This is what wrestling is right here. The stuff that we do in the ring does 963 01:06:41,350 --> 01:06:46,010 thing, but this is wrestling. By the time it was all said and done, it was 964 01:06:46,010 --> 01:06:49,910 $10 ,000 worth of damage to that store. Price check on a jackass. 965 01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:52,270 People still remember that line. 966 01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:54,370 Price check on a jackass. 967 01:07:00,049 --> 01:07:04,490 Booker T and I painted a Mona Lisa with a bunch of damn stuff that you'd find in 968 01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:05,490 a grocery store. 969 01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:13,930 Who at 6 '3 and 260 pounds can do like the Spinaroonie? You know, 970 01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:16,610 the breakdancers move up on his shoulders, flip up and... 971 01:07:16,990 --> 01:07:21,090 It starts with the hand, of course, and then you drop the one knee. All the 972 01:07:21,090 --> 01:07:26,390 centrifugal force comes from the dreads. You know, once you shake the dreads, it 973 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:30,170 goes through the body all the way down to the legs, which gives you torque. 974 01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:49,810 The Spinaroonian concept is not like that silly. Like, it's a cool way to get 975 01:07:49,810 --> 01:07:52,590 and get to your feet, and it's just a charismatic moment. 976 01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:58,510 But over time, the Spinaroonie kind of took on a life of its own. 977 01:07:59,630 --> 01:08:03,950 Everybody had a Rooney. Most infamous night was trying to get the Undertaker 978 01:08:03,950 --> 01:08:04,950 do the Takeroon. 979 01:08:05,090 --> 01:08:09,370 I think it's time for the Undertaker Rooney! 980 01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:16,500 If you know The Undertaker, he don't come out of character, ever. 981 01:08:16,779 --> 01:08:20,760 I try to get him to do it. I tell the fans, get the fans hyped up. 982 01:08:21,819 --> 01:08:22,819 Get up! 983 01:08:34,220 --> 01:08:38,680 And Taker looks at me and he goes, I'm going to kill you. 984 01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:48,069 All the named players on the card come out, and literally, we're 30 minutes 985 01:08:48,069 --> 01:08:51,950 after we're off the air trying to get the Undertaker to do the Spinneroonie. 986 01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:55,330 Everybody does the Spinneroonie. You want to see The Rock do the Rock -a 987 01:08:55,330 --> 01:08:56,330 -roonie? 988 01:08:58,870 --> 01:09:01,729 There ain't no way in hell you can do something like that. 989 01:09:05,870 --> 01:09:09,970 This man, he does the worst Spinneroonie I ever seen in my life. 990 01:09:20,330 --> 01:09:25,630 Out of all the wrestlers, I've got everyone to do it, except The 991 01:09:25,729 --> 01:09:27,750 He's the only one still to this day. 992 01:09:28,069 --> 01:09:30,609 Ain't a chance in hell I'm going to get out here and do the Spinneroonies. 993 01:09:31,090 --> 01:09:32,830 So you might better send the Calvary. 994 01:09:45,529 --> 01:09:47,890 My first son is 35 years old now. 995 01:09:48,810 --> 01:09:51,390 We had somewhat of a rough life growing up. 996 01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:55,970 And I thought it was due to me being on the road a lot, being on the road 997 01:09:55,970 --> 01:09:57,890 wrestling, not being there. 998 01:09:58,170 --> 01:10:01,190 When I got into the wrestling business, I went to stay with my sister. 999 01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:06,570 When he'd get a weekend off, he would fly from Atlanta, and he'd come back to 1000 01:10:06,570 --> 01:10:08,790 Houston, and they'd spend time together. 1001 01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:12,150 Still trying to get a relationship with his son. 1002 01:10:12,570 --> 01:10:13,990 It was just a process. 1003 01:10:14,670 --> 01:10:17,650 I'm sure they had their ups and downs. 1004 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:24,380 My son turned 16, 17 years old, and that's when it really got tough between 1005 01:10:24,380 --> 01:10:25,380 and I. 1006 01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:27,760 It was always just rocky. 1007 01:10:28,580 --> 01:10:32,260 My son ended up going down that same road that I did, you know, getting in 1008 01:10:32,260 --> 01:10:34,540 trouble, you know, even as an adult. 1009 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:39,500 That's why he's not here right now. He's sitting in a jail cell, you know, 1010 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,420 waiting to see exactly what's going to happen with his life, you know. 1011 01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:45,140 You know, he's still my son. 1012 01:10:46,020 --> 01:10:47,180 I'm still there for him. 1013 01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:52,860 It was totally different when I had my son because I was a kid myself, you 1014 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,180 I was only 17 years old. 1015 01:10:54,740 --> 01:10:58,320 Not having that male presence in my life was a huge factor. 1016 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,640 But I tried my best. 1017 01:11:00,860 --> 01:11:06,820 I tried to make sure I did the same thing that my mom did for me, and that 1018 01:11:06,820 --> 01:11:12,820 work my butt off. I tried to give my son an image that I wanted him to actually 1019 01:11:12,820 --> 01:11:15,540 be like, but I didn't have the tools. 1020 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,100 to actually be able to teach him everything that he needed to know, 1021 01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:20,580 from an educational side. 1022 01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:27,780 He was so young, a young single parent without a wife, working hard, building 1023 01:11:27,780 --> 01:11:30,460 his career, a lot of time on the road. 1024 01:11:30,940 --> 01:11:36,040 But then when that second phase of his life came around, there was different 1025 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,020 dynamics that played into the role of fatherhood. 1026 01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:42,480 He was stable. 1027 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,960 He was more established. 1028 01:11:44,620 --> 01:11:47,720 In his career, he married a wonderful woman. 1029 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,140 Booker and I were married February 5, 2005. 1030 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,900 It was a beautiful ceremony in my hometown of Gary, Indiana. 1031 01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:02,980 I only had, I think, three months to plan the wedding because of our 1032 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:08,060 Most women want to have a year to plan and find the perfect dress and all that. 1033 01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:12,020 I didn't have time for any of that. It was definitely a whirlwind and then 1034 01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:13,400 back to work the following week. 1035 01:12:14,890 --> 01:12:17,270 I was going to quit the company right after we got married. 1036 01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:21,170 I didn't want to be away from Charmelle. I didn't want to be on the road all the 1037 01:12:21,170 --> 01:12:27,290 time. He was considering cutting back on his work, and all of a sudden they 1038 01:12:27,290 --> 01:12:29,230 decided to bring me in, to bring me back. 1039 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,820 So, babe, I don't know how you felt the first time you saw action figures, 1040 01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:39,540 because I know you've had action figures before, but this was my very first one. 1041 01:12:39,740 --> 01:12:43,940 Yeah. This is amazing. How many husbands and wives do you think have this? 1042 01:12:45,500 --> 01:12:47,580 He's always called me his queen. 1043 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,760 So we kind of just transitioned that into wrestling. The true life stories 1044 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,900 for the best work, right? 1045 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,620 So it kind of just easily flowed into King Booker and Queen Sharmell. 1046 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,640 Must be good. Must be nice to be the king. 1047 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,780 It was just entertaining. It was something that people had never seen 1048 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,480 and then they had never seen Booker T in that light before. He was always 1049 01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:20,820 rugged, raw, you know, tough. And now he's coming out and just like prancing 1050 01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:24,860 around, elegant and classy and pompous. 1051 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,760 Contradictory on every level. I thought it was brilliant. 1052 01:13:29,130 --> 01:13:32,670 It was such an awesome, awesome time in my career. So much fun. 1053 01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:34,590 Man, this fool's crazy. 1054 01:13:34,930 --> 01:13:35,930 He really is crazy. 1055 01:13:36,150 --> 01:13:40,390 He would just open up the cape and he'd have his scepter and he'd just twirl 1056 01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:42,450 around and look so very majestic. 1057 01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:47,090 All of the little things that he did really made that character amazing. 1058 01:13:48,210 --> 01:13:53,570 This guy's walking around like he's royalty, holding his pinky up in the 1059 01:13:54,250 --> 01:13:56,470 I think he was just making it up as he goes. 1060 01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:58,170 As I ponder. 1061 01:13:58,830 --> 01:14:03,210 He started speaking in a bad British accent. It's become a much, much better 1062 01:14:03,210 --> 01:14:08,010 place since I, King Booker, has become ruler of it. It was almost like Kevin 1063 01:14:08,010 --> 01:14:11,450 Costner in Robin Hood. Like he would float in and out of the accent. 1064 01:14:11,690 --> 01:14:15,690 If you got him too angry, then his British accent went right back to the 1065 01:14:15,930 --> 01:14:18,490 It's going to be in a steel cage. 1066 01:14:18,810 --> 01:14:20,010 Oh, hell no. 1067 01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:25,530 Hell no. Oh, hell no. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 1068 01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:28,920 People would actually treat me like a king as well. 1069 01:14:29,220 --> 01:14:33,020 I don't think I paid for a meal the whole year I was King Booker anywhere. 1070 01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:38,300 This is Booker Teeth reaching that nirvana of character development. The 1071 01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:44,240 culmination of all of Booker Teeth's years in wrestling, all of that sort of 1072 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,440 to him finding... 1073 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,120 this perfect character that was undeniable. I mean, to the point where 1074 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:54,000 to give him the championship. And he became champion as King Booker, and it 1075 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,520 as memorable as anything he's ever done in wrestling. The poor kid from Houston, 1076 01:14:59,660 --> 01:15:03,400 Texas has risen to the top of the world. 1077 01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:04,780 Booker! 1078 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,400 Give me some, baby. 1079 01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:24,980 Watch out now. Man. 1080 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:32,380 We know that we're the one person we can count on when all else fails, and we 1081 01:15:32,380 --> 01:15:33,500 really hold that dear. 1082 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,960 For us, it's been a team effort since day one. 1083 01:15:41,290 --> 01:15:46,590 Us pulling together and now having twins, a boy and a girl eight years old. 1084 01:15:46,590 --> 01:15:50,850 never imagined in a million years that her and I would have kids running 1085 01:15:51,130 --> 01:15:52,150 It's pretty, pretty special. 1086 01:15:52,610 --> 01:15:53,730 Good day at school today? 1087 01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:57,610 Yeah. I've been practicing all day long. 1088 01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:59,750 Yeah, baby. 1089 01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:06,770 Sharmell and I, we tried to have kids for three years. 1090 01:16:07,610 --> 01:16:10,910 Things just didn't work out, and then, you know, instead of with one, you know, 1091 01:16:10,930 --> 01:16:12,010 God blessed us with two. 1092 01:16:22,730 --> 01:16:26,650 I've watched them grow over the last eight years and not be on the road 1093 01:16:26,650 --> 01:16:29,270 wrestling on a weekly basis in a different town. 1094 01:16:38,250 --> 01:16:41,670 That part right there, I think, has been more special than anything. 1095 01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:50,850 Okay, don't eat it all at one time. 1096 01:16:51,490 --> 01:16:56,510 So how much did Tessa say? 1097 01:16:56,830 --> 01:17:01,850 Seven. Seven dollars, and how much did... Seven dollars and seven dollars, 1098 01:17:01,850 --> 01:17:05,010 $15. In some aspects, our kids are polar opposites. 1099 01:17:05,450 --> 01:17:08,650 But they're both extremely talented and so very, very smart. 1100 01:17:09,490 --> 01:17:13,450 Booker is an amazing dad. He's so playful with the kids. 1101 01:17:13,850 --> 01:17:14,850 Come on! 1102 01:17:18,450 --> 01:17:19,450 Finish him! 1103 01:17:19,970 --> 01:17:21,470 Yes! Oh, no. 1104 01:17:21,970 --> 01:17:25,430 My son Kendrick is now really, really into wrestling. 1105 01:17:25,650 --> 01:17:30,710 I got him now, baby. A lot of times I catch just spontaneous moments between 1106 01:17:30,710 --> 01:17:31,770 two of them. Hey, come on. 1107 01:17:35,710 --> 01:17:40,250 I'm very fortunate for the way our kids are growing up and we're just afforded 1108 01:17:40,250 --> 01:17:44,530 this family that Booker unfortunately didn't have when he was growing up. 1109 01:17:46,770 --> 01:17:53,510 Of course, Booker cooks really well. 1110 01:17:54,010 --> 01:17:56,530 He can cook better than me. That's the only time I'll admit that. 1111 01:17:57,130 --> 01:18:00,830 So I'll tell you what I can do. I can turn the oven on for the French fries. 1112 01:18:01,710 --> 01:18:06,430 I get anxiety maybe three days before I have to leave on a one -day trip. 1113 01:18:06,650 --> 01:18:10,970 I literally, I'll be sitting here and I go, man, I can't wait to get back. 1114 01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:12,950 And I haven't even left yet. 1115 01:18:13,470 --> 01:18:20,450 Every time. Because I do love being a dad. I do love being at home. 1116 01:18:20,530 --> 01:18:24,510 That's what's cool about, you know, this stage of life. And I can honestly say, 1117 01:18:24,590 --> 01:18:26,130 you know, it's the best stage. 1118 01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:28,290 I do want the memories. 1119 01:18:29,020 --> 01:18:33,700 that my son and my daughter have of their dad is something that's going to 1120 01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:35,800 catapult them throughout life. 1121 01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:39,020 They're going to know exactly what it means to be a dad. 1122 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,440 They're going to know exactly what it means to be a mom. 1123 01:18:41,860 --> 01:18:45,780 And that right there, at the end of the day, you know, we've done our job. 1124 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:55,240 Let's bring in now our two -time WWE Hall of Famer, our good friend, of 1125 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,200 Booker T to the panel. Let's see those rings, baby. 1126 01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,740 Right there, right there. 1127 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,300 Look at all that gold. 1128 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,800 Congratulations, sir, last night, part of Harlem. If you know Booker, I've 1129 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,460 seen the guy in a bad mood. 1130 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,120 That felt good right there. 1131 01:19:14,460 --> 01:19:16,460 Sports entertainment is in his blood. 1132 01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:19,880 Coming to the final chapter of WrestleMania. 1133 01:19:20,300 --> 01:19:27,100 To see the guy that I first met in the 90s and to know Booker now, his legacy 1134 01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:32,520 just continues to grow because he's one of the guys that wants to give back, 1135 01:19:32,660 --> 01:19:33,880 that is giving back. 1136 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,120 And I understand exactly what you're talking about. It will eat you all week 1137 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,180 thinking about that. I swear. 1138 01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:41,720 I appreciate the words of wisdom. 1139 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,180 Holla. Stay up. 1140 01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:58,970 I love the 1141 01:19:58,970 --> 01:20:12,590 business. 1142 01:20:12,850 --> 01:20:14,430 The business have given me. 1143 01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:28,070 It starts right here. I had a dream back in 2005. 1144 01:20:28,630 --> 01:20:31,270 I said, one day I'm going to open up my own wrestling school. 1145 01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:33,850 I'm going to teach kids the proper way. 1146 01:20:34,930 --> 01:20:38,350 Good job, Kelly. Good job. We come here Monday through Friday. 1147 01:20:38,690 --> 01:20:43,170 The gym's open from normally around 6 p .m. It goes to the last man leaves. 1148 01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:45,610 Bang! All right, it's got to be that big. 1149 01:20:45,810 --> 01:20:47,470 That's the thinking part, guys. 1150 01:20:47,690 --> 01:20:48,690 We're trying to think. 1151 01:20:49,450 --> 01:20:50,970 Storytelling. This is my livelihood. 1152 01:20:51,290 --> 01:20:52,290 This is what I do. 1153 01:20:52,430 --> 01:20:53,650 This is my trade. 1154 01:20:53,870 --> 01:20:56,250 My knowledge. It's never going to go away. 1155 01:20:56,510 --> 01:20:57,510 It did. 1156 01:20:57,570 --> 01:21:00,390 Bang! I love doing that spot right there. 1157 01:21:01,130 --> 01:21:05,710 Almost more than any spot that I ever did in professional wrestling. I swear 1158 01:21:05,710 --> 01:21:07,890 God. Pop the crowd to where they go. Wow. 1159 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,560 That was awesome. Add a little bit more on it. It means something. 1160 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,280 Think about the guy in the cheap seats. 1161 01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:17,080 I want my youngsters to be able to create their own stories. Hey, bro. I 1162 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,080 be with you, brother. Hey, man. 1163 01:21:21,540 --> 01:21:26,500 That's what it all started out as, and then it manifested into us having our 1164 01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:27,500 wrestling promotion. 1165 01:21:30,140 --> 01:21:34,160 It's really exciting to have a huge crowd tonight, and all of our hard work 1166 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,400 know is going to pay off. We're going to have a great show. Did you hear that 1167 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,440 crowd behind us? 1168 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,200 They're getting ready to have some fun. 1169 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:53,020 They're our fans coming to see our own homegrown talent. They are the stars of 1170 01:21:53,020 --> 01:21:54,020 the show. 1171 01:21:56,740 --> 01:21:59,920 We got something here and we can take this thing to the next level. 1172 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,760 And we're on our way. 1173 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:18,680 He had all the odds against him. If you were to pick out the kid that was going 1174 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:24,080 to end up dead by the time he was 30, you would probably pick Booker T. 1175 01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:33,000 He grew up, he experienced life, good, bad, ugly. 1176 01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:36,480 Book did what it took. 1177 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:41,540 He never went and said, well, here's a shortcut over here I can take. 1178 01:22:43,210 --> 01:22:46,990 And the rewards matched the hard work that he put in. 1179 01:22:48,370 --> 01:22:52,190 He is a real -life success story. 1180 01:22:52,490 --> 01:22:57,010 You ain't never coming back. You going down with a one, two, three, because I 1181 01:22:57,010 --> 01:23:00,450 got all my people standing behind me 110%. Help! 1182 01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:05,930 People thought that he couldn't do something because of either his race or 1183 01:23:05,930 --> 01:23:10,430 he was from or how he looked or the fact that he didn't have a formal education. 1184 01:23:10,810 --> 01:23:11,890 That's what drove him. 1185 01:23:18,510 --> 01:23:19,890 Booker is just a survivor. 1186 01:23:20,650 --> 01:23:24,210 And when you see Booker T, you take people at face value and you believe in 1187 01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:25,148 redemption story. 1188 01:23:25,150 --> 01:23:28,650 Those kids who told me I wasn't going to be anything, and I look back on them 1189 01:23:28,650 --> 01:23:33,570 now, and I say, how do you like me now? Guys, all of you are going to get a 1190 01:23:33,570 --> 01:23:37,330 chance for me to do that. Don't let anyone stop you. 1191 01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:47,100 Statistically, he wasn't supposed to be on that stage at Madison Square Garden 1192 01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:48,760 and being inducted into the Hall of Fame. 1193 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,140 That made it all the more special because he made it. He made it. 1194 01:24:10,860 --> 01:24:12,660 I always ask God, you know, why me? 1195 01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:16,140 I always ask God, you know, why me? 1196 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,100 Thirty years later, it's really, really hard to explain. 1197 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:29,300 The safest place that I could ever be was in the middle of the ring, painting 1198 01:24:29,300 --> 01:24:30,300 Picasso. 1199 01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:36,600 I always want to perform at the highest level, and I want to be remembered, 1200 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,340 making people feel a certain way when they watch me. 1201 01:24:54,090 --> 01:25:00,490 And if you guys, the fans, are enjoying it and having a good time, we're doing 1202 01:25:00,490 --> 01:25:01,490 something right. 1203 01:25:02,170 --> 01:25:04,910 That's what it's always been about with me. 1204 01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:13,050 I just 1205 01:25:13,050 --> 01:25:19,910 want to say, it's on like a big pot of neck 1206 01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:20,910 bone, baby. 1207 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,060 I'm going to put you in the pot like I do the neck bone. I'm going to stand up, 1208 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,700 and it's going to be on, daddy. We're going to turn the thing up to 1 ,000 1209 01:25:28,700 --> 01:25:30,320 degrees, and we're going to burn everybody. 1210 01:25:30,700 --> 01:25:36,080 Five times, five times, five times, five times, five times, WCW champion. 1211 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,440 Now, can you dig that? 1212 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:44,400 The God. 111720

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