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Macho man, Randy Savage.
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Ooh, yeah. Ooh, yeah.
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Complete mental insanity.
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Everybody, when they're talking about
Randy, they're never going to speak in
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their own voice. They're going to do a
Randy voice. They're going to do macho
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voice. Every single time. I am the lord
and master of the wreck. The growl that
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he would have.
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But I was going to do something
devastating. It's more about quiet than
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loud. We rise to the top. Oh, yeah.
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And it's all in the fingers.
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Letting the words dance outside.
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Yeah. Step into a slip. Step into a
slip. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, no, what happened? I did my Randy
Savage voice and I choked on it.
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Isn't it great we didn't wear the same
outfit?
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He was a pop culture phenomenon.
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It's some evil.
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Randy loved it. There was no faking
anything with him. He believed
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did.
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I'll be in the ring till they throw my
withered carcass in a bag and drag me to
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the dumpster. Let me tell you something,
Dingleberry. David Perry.
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We have a little magic in the bottle
here.
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The ones that stand the test of time are
the things that are real. So long.
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as you both do it.
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Ooh, yeah!
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Three minutes of peak time.
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He was a wild man.
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Ooh, yeah!
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In this corner, from Downers Grove,
Illinois, weighing
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225 pounds, Angelo Puffo.
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My father was a wrestler, and he was
traveling around.
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Randy was born in Columbus, Ohio, and I
was born in Calgary, Alberta.
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Our kids went to lots of schools.
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When we finally settled down, we were in
Downers Grove, Illinois, and it was
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nice for them to have roots.
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His mother was from Germany, and she was
Jewish when Hitler was in power,
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so his mother had had an extremely
difficult life.
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Randy was really something.
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He was so different.
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The first complaint we got, his teacher
that he had for the fourth grade said,
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he can't sit still a minute. He sees a
piece of paper on the floor 10 feet
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and he has to get up and pick it up.
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The earliest memory of my brother is
like having two fathers.
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He gave me a lot of instructions, let's
put it that way, if he felt I wasn't
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giving my maximum effort.
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Is that the best you can do?
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When he was in high school, we had a lot
of kids that were being bullied. He and
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his friend, they used to escort the kids
that were being bullied from class to
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class so they wouldn't get picked on. He
used to say, you want to pick on this
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kid now?
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Always for the underdog.
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He was so busy with his sports because
he played basketball, football, and
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baseball.
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He never dated, but all the girls liked
him. He didn't have time to date.
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He had homework. He had to get asleep.
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He had to get up early to practice.
There was always something to practice,
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practice, practice.
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He moved to Tampa, Florida in 1971 to
about 75 to play baseball.
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Apparently he was a very successful
baseball player because he had made it
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the minor leagues with the White Sox,
the Reds, and the St. Louis Cardinals.
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Professional baseball was the first
endeavor that I encountered, and I did
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rather well.
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I did it rather well, I have to admit
myself.
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Started out in 1971,
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St. Louis Cardinals, minor leagues.
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He was a catcher, and then he had an
accident at home plate with a collision,
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and he separated his shoulder, and then
he did the impossible. He learned to
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throw left -handed.
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and he signed as a left -handed first
baseman with the Chicago White Sox. But
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what I didn't do was I was a switch
hitter and a switch thrower. That means
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could hit and throw with both arms,
which no other wrestler, no other
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baseball player, no other hockey player,
no other football player, no other
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nothing could do with an athletic
background like that.
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Yeah, if it's even true, I couldn't
imagine what he had to do to make that
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I mean, you just have to be some kind of
blessed, super freak athlete for that
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even to be an option.
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He made the first cut, second cut, third
cut, and then they cut him.
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He was a right -handed thrower, and then
he learned to throw left -handed.
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So they said he looked funny, and they
couldn't put him on the White Sox.
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It broke his heart when he was no longer
involved.
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She threw away his bats. She broke them.
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She said, they're finished with me. I'm
finished with them.
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He asked his dad, how do you get to the
top in wrestling?
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That was the beginning.
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Randy never spoke about baseball
anymore.
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He was always wrestling.
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I 100 % think that all greatness comes
from failure. And I think all greatness
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comes from being overlooked, for doing
it wrong.
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Him not looking good throwing that ball
probably affected how he performed in
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the ring. So now he goes to his dad's
business, the thing he grew up around,
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thing that he knows and he's passionate
about, and he makes it look great.
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In 1979, we got a family business
started, the ICW, International
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Championship Wrestling.
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The inevitable Randy Macho Man Savage.
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Welcome back, wrestling fans.
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We take you now to the Capital Plaza
Sports Center. Macho Man Randy Savage.
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My brother was gung -ho onto it. One
reversal by the Macho Man.
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John King takes it down, shoulders down.
He had those feet hooked over his
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shoulders. The only thing that comes
with a second -generation wrestler is
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falling into your father's footsteps,
and you've got to toe the line.
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Angelo was a tough guy, so Randy had to
deal with a lot, especially when he made
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the transition.
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In the 80s and in the 70s, there were
territories, and every area had its own
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promoter. Mid -South, Louisiana,
Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, there were
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all these different fiefdoms of
promotions that promoted their unique
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The first time I met Randy Macho Man
Savage was almost 40 years ago.
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He was running a little outlaw
promotion, independent promotion up
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Kentucky area, and they were doing the
invasion on Memphis Wrestling, where I
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was from.
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We started elections in Kentucky, and we
spread out in every direction.
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We considered it our town.
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And all of a sudden, the Papos opened up
their own local wrestling promotion.
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Randy Savage had to beat both these men
in 10 minutes.
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The first time they tried to run their
shows, they didn't draw very many
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So I think that's why they turned their
formula around and said, look, if we're
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going to draw money, we've got to
challenge the other company. You know,
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company against them.
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Our boss told us, whatever we do, don't
ever say anything on our live TV show
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about them. Because sooner or later, if
you don't talk about your opponent,
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they're going to go away.
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Jerry Lawler's dead. He's dead, man. He
ain't healthy, man.
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He's in his grave somewhere.
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Randy would come on TV and challenge me.
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Say, Jerry Lawler, you know, this week,
when I get you down in that arena, you
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know, I will beat your brains out if you
show up.
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Somebody told me, Randy Savage, that I
ain't being under no longer, no.
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Four years, man.
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And we felt like they were, you know,
almost false advertising to their
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audience. You know, they're building up
a match between me and Randy Savage that
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we know is never going to take place
because we don't have anything to do
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him.
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It escalated into what we felt like was
a gang war.
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I mean, people started carrying guns on
the trips. You know, that's how scary
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this thing got at one point.
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Because the Pappos were known then
around the territory as being nuts.
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But finally, I think what really brought
this thing to a head was the fact that
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the Pappos ran out of money.
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I was at Jerry Lawler's house one night.
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So he'd written me this letter that
Randy had sent to him saying, look,
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leaving the territory.
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Everything that we said, we apologize
for.
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Hopefully one day we can work together.
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I said, what a home run. That's going to
be a complete sellout.
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This is something that had been talked
about for years.
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Randy Savage against Jerry the King
Lawler and completely sold out.
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Randy caused quite a stir when he joined
up with Memphis Wrestling. I mean,
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people knew he was going to be a very
big deal.
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My mother thought of
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Macho Man, but the song by the YMCA
Village People, the song
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Macho Man was first.
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Where did the name Savage come from?
Well, I think he earned it.
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And the prophet told me, he says, better
to be rich and dead than poor and
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alive. He never, ever in his life came
to me for any advice. If there was
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advice, he would give me advice, but he
wouldn't ask for advice.
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And then he absolutely floored me, and
he said, Lanny, I need help.
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When you sit from people that go up
there and say that the macho man can be
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beat. Those are 10 ,000 people telling
10 ,000 lies.
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I said, you've changed your name to
Savage.
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You've got hair like a savage. You
wrestle like a savage. Who is the best
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-type interview that you've ever seen?
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Let's copy him.
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And he says, okay.
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How about Pampero Furpo?
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He has done it.
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Pampero Furpo, the wild bull of the
Pampas.
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Oh, yeah!
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And he goes,
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ooh, yeah.
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And I went...
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By George, I think he's got it. The
manager came up to me and he says, hey,
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don't play baseball no more, man. You're
fired.
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Yeah, they do that. When you're not good
enough or they think that you're not
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good enough, they get you out of there.
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They take your uniform out of your
locker.
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I promise you I never heard that voice
again, his other voice.
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Got my head together later that night. I
stared at a candle and I said, Randy
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Savage, you are going to be the
greatest.
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That's something someday, yeah.
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Fans are going wild, and I'm so excited.
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She's going up.
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Hulk Hogan, he drops a big leg on him.
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He's down for the cover of the leg. One,
two, he's gone on.
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We have a new champion.
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Hulkamania is here.
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Hulk Hogan was larger than life.
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He was literally like a real -life
superhero.
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And WWE needed a real -life
supervillain.
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You want to look for unique
personalities and unique personas, or
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something and someone you can then take
that and apply a new concept to.
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In those days, all these little
fiefdoms, all these little territories
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rich characters.
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And so the question is whether or not
they wanted to come to work at WWE or
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where they were.
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When the WWE began its national
expansion, to come on board to the WWE
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now you're exposed to the entire
country. Now you're going nationwide.
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It was national exposure and exposure
that a lot of the talent had never
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experienced before.
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Ladies and gentlemen, you're going to
meet without a doubt.
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one of the fastest rising stars in the
World Wrestling Federation, a man who is
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really making a reputation for himself
almost overnight. As a matter of fact,
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would you please welcome Randy the Macho
Man Savage.
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I think Randy left Memphis.
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Probably, in hindsight, just at the
right time.
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Somebody said something about
Hulkamania, yeah. Somebody said
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Hulkamania, and I answered it with Macho
Madness, yeah. So I'm feeling real,
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real good, and I will be the next. Macho
Madness. This contest is scheduled for
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one fall.
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The Macho Man, Randy Savage, who is
quite a competitor, making his World
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Wrestling Federation debut.
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The top wrestlers that had only been
seen in these local markets, they wanted
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be seen nationwide. They wanted to be
worldwide stars.
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Well, he's a very good wrestler, but
he's a very mean individual. But he
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certainly has been a winner. That's what
happened with Randy. He wanted to be
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seen on the biggest stage.
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Watch, old man. Randy Savage.
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Ooh, another one.
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I think these managers are out here all
to take a look at Randy Savage. I think
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so. The Macho Man congratulated by Bobby
the Brain Heenan. There by Freddie
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Blassie. Jimmy Hart, Mr. Fuji with a
handshake. My goodness, I can't believe
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what I'm seeing. Here is your winner,
Randy Macho Man Savage.
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When I first met him, I'm going, hmm,
he's small compared to the size of our
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performers at that time. I think Randy
was very subconscious about being
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smaller. Randy wasn't the biggest in
size and stature.
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However, Randy made up for the size
differential with his intensity.
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At that
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point, managers were very, very
important.
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Everyone was sitting around waiting to
find out who would manage this new,
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Herald of talent.
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He has invited all of the managers who
are bidding for his services.
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They had Bobby Heenan come out and go,
Randy, let me tell you why the brain
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should be your manager. Then Jimmy Hart
came out. Hey, let me tell you why you
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should be a manager.
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Macho madness at this peak right now.
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And we kind of know who the manager is
going to be.
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And here he comes.
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Oh, my.
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Oh, my.
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Goodness. We're going to have to find
out a lot more about this lady.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to another
sensational hour of international all
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wrestling. I'm your hostess, Liz
Hewlett.
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You know what, Liz is the love of
Randy's life.
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And we happened to be around when they
first met. I mean, you know, they met
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down in our territory.
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Lexington, Kentucky, on Richmond Road,
had a gym called the Cente Sports
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Elizabeth was the first person you saw
in the morning.
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and she would hand you the towel and the
key to the locker room.
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And that's how Randy met Elizabeth.
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They were married on December 31, 1984,
approximately six
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months before Randy went to the WWE.
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Part of Randy's deal was he was going to
bring his brother, Lanny Poffo, later
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on became the Genius, but Randy also
wanted his wife, Elizabeth, to have a
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in the company.
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As legend has it, Randy originally
wanted Liz to do some broadcasting work
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WWE. And then Vince took a look at her
and said, No, you're not going to be a
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commentator. It's a waste.
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And so she became the manager.
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What a beautiful woman.
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My goodness.
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It was kind of the prequel of all these
reality shows.
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Randy Savage selecting Miss Elizabeth to
be his manager and giving her that
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proverbial rose. Her being in his
corner, I think it was revolutionary.
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The Bachelor, The Bachelorette. Randy
was one of the very first real scenarios
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of love on TV.
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People could just kind of pick up on the
energy of that realness that was
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actually happening in real life. It was
a unique pairing because she carried
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herself so beautifully and she had an
elegance about her. It was kind of like
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this Beauty and the Beast sort of
dynamic.
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That's what made Macho Man Macho Man.
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You know, you get this queen, man.
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You know, everybody wants the queen.
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Not this lady. She's not a macho man in
my book.
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Oh, Billy Jack's sticking his nose in
personal business. Oh, look at that.
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Scoops Elizabeth right around and look
at that. Give me a break.
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At ringside, he would sort of give her a
look sometimes that's like, you better,
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or there was an inherent threat to the
relationship of Savage and Elizabeth.
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Don't get me wrong, I assume that part
was him hamming up the character, but
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it's still uncomfortable to see now.
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He developed that persona, but he
started using that personality in his
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life.
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Randy was so protective of Liz. He
started bringing her to the matches
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actually got her into the business. And
he would put her in his dressing room
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and literally lock the door when he
wasn't in there with her so that she
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couldn't come out and nobody could go
in.
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It was almost like a way to dominate
her.
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Once again, they did not treat Elizabeth
very well. The way he interacted with
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her.
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And, you know, he put the voice, ooh,
yeah, don't look at my wife when she
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through the dressing room, brother.
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I was watching him. It was like, okay, I
get it. You know, he's the dominating
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personality in this relationship.
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Randy made it clear to everyone that
Elizabeth was his and his only.
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You jump out of the ring and take Ms.
Elizabeth and move her to the other side
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of the ring and tell her, you're safer
here.
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You don't know if it was a controlling
factor or if it was a sincere, heartfelt
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protection that he wanted for Ms.
Elizabeth.
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He believed in his gimmick. He lived his
gimmick 100%. And he became the Macho
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Man. Even when Randy Popple. I question
his treatment of Elizabeth.
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You have to believe it. You have to
actually believe it and feel it and live
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If you don't do that, you're not going
to connect.
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Randy lived it.
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And he's ready. Oh, look at that. Give
me a break.
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I think the first thing that I perceived
was obsession.
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Oh, this guy's a lot.
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I think little kids were like, stop
being mean to Elizabeth.
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We liked her. She was like our nice
second grade teacher that was beautiful.
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We're like, leave her alone, Randy.
You're mean.
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But it's so good. It was such good
storytelling.
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Randy Savage had this beautiful woman
that he loved, but no one was going to
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talk to her.
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And she better know her place.
Elizabeth, I've got to compliment you on
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Just outstanding jewelry. That is very,
very attractive on a very attractive
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lady. Thank you very much. Wait a
minute. I didn't tell you to talk, did
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I tell you to say anything?
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No, I told you to say nothing.
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Didn't I tell you that?
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What a dick.
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I want to watch this guy get beat up.
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Tampa's a great town. It really is. It's
kind of a white trash version of Miami.
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Tampa's known for strip joints, pimps,
shop jock, sex tapes, macho, Hogan,
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like that. Great stuff.
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This is still the hotbed of wrestling.
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Everybody from John Cena to the Big Show
to Edge and Christian, Roman Reigns,
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everybody lives here in Tampa. Actually
started during the 70s.
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When I first went up to Minneapolis and
New York, I started bringing some guys
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down that were single. The next thing
you know, we had a whole crew here, man.
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It was crazy.
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When Randy got the job in the WWE, when
I got Azir, I got him and Liz to come
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down. Randy and Elizabeth were just so
much fun to be around.
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Just normal people.
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Nice, really kind, normal people.
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The relationship with myself and my wife
and Randy and Liz, we hung out all the
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time.
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Yeah, this is unbelievable.
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They lived right down the beach from us,
so every day when we were home, we were
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all together on my boat or at the pool
or at the beach. We hung out with them
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all the time.
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Therein lies the problem.
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Hey, Hulkster, what's the deal, brother?
Talk to me. It's not like you to leave
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me hanging and just checking out the
babes and just leaving me out there.
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We need to have a little talk, brother,
about who cut out on who.
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All right, let's do it right now.
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Come on. All right.
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Hey, maybe they're going to fight.
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Randy and Miss Elizabeth threw a party,
and we were so excited to go because my
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sisters and I all wanted to be like Miss
Elizabeth.
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My dad and Randy were really close
friends, but for us, we were still in
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Miss Elizabeth because she was the woman
that we saw on our TV screens.
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As kids, even though our dad was a WWE
superstar, we were still fans.
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They had a beautiful home, and they had
really beautiful artwork.
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It wasn't a mansion, but it was just
this beautiful home that was so well
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care of and so pristine.
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Their house was immaculate. Like, I felt
like when we walked in, we had to,
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like, take our shoes off right away and
put on little, like, booties.
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So I felt like he may have had OCD.
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When I met Randy, he was the macho man,
Randy Savage. Ooh, yeah!
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24 hours a day. But what he didn't have
was the look. He needed to look like a
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star. I said, bro, I got a guy named
Michael Braun that I played in a rock
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roll band for 10 years.
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He made all of Hendrix's clothes. He
made all the stuff for the guys in my
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Randy called me on the phone.
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The Hulkster told me, you can make me
some clothes.
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I'm going, who's this?
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He comes with Miss Elizabeth, and he
brings me shorts that have three stars
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the front and maybe two -inch letter
across his tush.
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It says Macho Man.
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And I say, dude, I need real estate. I
need from the floor to past your head.
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He says, you can do whatever you want.
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This is the kiss of death.
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I make him five outfits, out of spandex,
but full -length pants and shirts.
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And maybe there's a little fringe here
and there. We're just starting out.
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In the 80s, there was a series of pimps.
One pimp would bring another pimp often
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to us.
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and they'd say about me, he's all right.
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Yes, there was some inspiration from
them for Macho Man's clothes.
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The costumes fit, man. Every little, the
tiles, everything just went down right
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where it was supposed to go to, you know
what I'm saying?
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Damn, there was a pimp outfit Randy was
wearing, man, when you think about it.
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Like, duh.
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Randy Pimpin' Savage.
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The guy that dressed the pimps in the
70s ended up being one of the most
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influential costumers in all of
wrestling.
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That's how Tampa rolls.
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A real funny story is he wanted a really
fast car, you know. A buddy of mine had
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one. So Randy went out there, looked at
the car, bought it, had the car sent
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from California. He called me, he said,
the damn Corvette.
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I said, what's wrong with the car?
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He goes, my hat box won't fit up front
in the trunk.
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I guess the only place there was a trunk
was in the front of a Ferrari. So he
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put the hat box in and he wouldn't
close, so we had to send the car back.
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Hats are doing good. Now we've got hats,
we've got glasses.
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I'm painting on his shirt, on the hat,
on the sleeves, on the
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pants, on the back of the jacket, Macho
Man.
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Over and over again. How many times can
you write Macho Man? How many times can
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you paint the name? How many fonts can
you use?
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Nobody can wear Randy's clothes. Nobody.
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They all look silly. There's something
about this person fits these clothes.
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He did spend money on his outfits, and
they were lavish and extraordinary and
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colorful. Randy spent a lot of money on
the perception of who the Macho Man was.
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That was all out of his pocket.
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Michael Braun made the fortune making
Randy's clothes.
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He wouldn't buy you a cup of coffee, but
that's another subject.
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Randy saved his money. He was smart.
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That's a nice way of saying he was
cheap, but that's okay.
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Well, Randy was making a lot of money.
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Randy probably held on to every nickel
that he ever earned.
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His mom and dad didn't always have it
easy.
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And his father had to work really hard
for every penny that he made. So Randy's
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father, Angelo, instilled in both kids,
save your money.
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He would drive from Memphis all the way
to Louisville, Kentucky, wrestle in a
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match, and then he wouldn't get a hotel.
He'd sleep in his car.
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It was a lot of fun having him with us
on the road.
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I don't remember him ever buying. I'll
say that.
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Pomp and Circumstance. What a song.
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All these other wrestlers had, I'm gonna
beat you up. And that like crunchy,
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like 80s, 90s guitar of like, I'm a man,
I'm a man. And then you just have this
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classic, elegant Pomp and Circumstance.
And the second it hits.
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Macho Man Randy Savage is the definition
of Pomp and Circumstance.
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I think that that was the perfect music
for Randy.
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What I think made Randy such a good
wrestler is the combination of his
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ability and his personality and his work
ethic in the ring.
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Man, he was just on the cutting edge
with all of it, always.
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He was extremely professional when it
came to his preparation.
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He spent more time on the preparation
than some other people did, a lot more
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than I did, and it showed in his work
product.
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Guaranteed. One, two, three. You know,
my phone would ring at 3 or 4 o 'clock
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the morning. Hey, I've got an idea about
that finish at Madison Square Garden.
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I'm going, Randy, it's 4 o 'clock in the
morning, brother.
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I don't care what time it is, you should
care as much as I do. I'm like, okay, I
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care, Randy, I care.
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It was always just banging heads with
him. He'd go instead of the big foot for
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it rather than how about just elbow me
back over the top rope. I was like,
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Randy, fine, talk in the mornings.
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But he was always on, man, and he was a
wild man.
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I think he would really overthink it
sometimes.
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He was too calculated, you know.
Sometimes you got to like free form in
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and you hear what the crowd wants
instead of going to the corner and
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guy you may want to.
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grab his arm and bite his thumb off or
something, you know.
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Cut out the costumes, cut out the crazy
voice, cut out everything.
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At the core is a man that knew what it
took to be great. He knew the work. He
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wasn't afraid of the work. He put in the
time and he put in the effort.
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And I think that's a beautiful thing
that anyone in any field could look at
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realize that's what it takes.
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Go put in the work. Go fail. Get back
up. And then you'll have your
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3 moment with Sting. Heavyweight
champion, along with Elizabeth.
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Along with the man who will be in his
corner, George DeAnimus. Nice block by
449
00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:07,010
driver.
450
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:09,370
This is
451
00:29:09,370 --> 00:29:16,870
the
452
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:17,870
WrestleMania Report.
453
00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:18,990
I'm Gene Okerlund.
454
00:29:19,270 --> 00:29:20,690
Surprise. Yes.
455
00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:23,750
Yet even another match has been added to
WrestleMania III.
456
00:29:24,410 --> 00:29:27,330
Well, this was going to be the biggest
thing ever. At least that's what I said.
457
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:30,530
It actually became the biggest thing
ever for a long time.
458
00:29:30,730 --> 00:29:34,610
We could hear the numbers coming in from
the number of ticket sales at the
459
00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:40,230
Silverdome. You know, 50 ,000, 60 ,000,
70 ,000, and it finally got up to 93
460
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:45,570
,000. Heavyweight champion Hulk Hogan.
Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant are the
461
00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:49,950
two biggest icons in our business at the
time were the main event.
462
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,860
We want a match to steal the show.
463
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Randy and Ricky were not trying to
upstage my man at that.
464
00:29:56,900 --> 00:30:00,040
They didn't go out there and go, okay,
we want to steal the show from Andre.
465
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,060
We want to steal the show from Hulk
Hogan. They didn't do that, man.
466
00:30:03,420 --> 00:30:06,120
Our goal was to have the match of the
night.
467
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,120
And to do that, we had to upstage Hogan
and Andre.
468
00:30:19,850 --> 00:30:20,930
March 29th, 1987.
469
00:30:21,370 --> 00:30:23,650
This is going to be the biggest moment
in wrestling history.
470
00:30:23,890 --> 00:30:30,010
I knew that when I watched the whole
show, as good as Hogan Andre was, and it
471
00:30:30,010 --> 00:30:31,010
was damn good.
472
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,540
It didn't hold a candle to Randy Savage
and Ricky Steamboat.
473
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,840
Obviously, it turns out that one of the
ways that they were able to do that is
474
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,120
because Randy Savage was obsessive about
that match and worked out every single
475
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,980
detail repeatedly on notepads with Ricky
Steamboat until they got exactly the
476
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:50,060
match that they needed to have.
477
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:52,260
We had these yellow legal tablets.
478
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,800
We got into two and a half pages of
these long legal pads.
479
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,360
We're getting up to like 160 steps.
480
00:31:01,070 --> 00:31:06,110
We started quizzing each other, and I
would say, Randy, step number 37 is
481
00:31:06,130 --> 00:31:07,130
this, and this.
482
00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:08,550
Tell me the rest of the match.
483
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:13,570
Number 38 is this, number 39 is this,
number 40 is this, this, that.
484
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:18,970
We took every opportunity and every
advantage going over the match just to
485
00:31:18,970 --> 00:31:20,190
sure they're all on the same page.
486
00:31:22,270 --> 00:31:27,350
You got the ultimate good guy in Ricky
Steamboat. He's impossible to dislike.
487
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:34,560
Then you got Randy Macho Man Savage, who
Savage being, you know, the bad guy.
488
00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:38,740
It was just a perfect storm ahead.
Everything you needed for the perfect
489
00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:43,300
And the story that they told leading up
to it had layers.
490
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:47,740
I will not only embarrass you, not only
pin you with the one, two, three count,
491
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,580
but I'm going to put you out of
wrestling for good.
492
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,720
They never have a televised match until
WrestleMania 3.
493
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,360
And now, here he comes, making his way
down the...
494
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,120
Crowd is so big. It's majestic. It's
like this gigantic sea of people.
495
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,100
The noise of 97 ,000 people.
496
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,160
Your body would almost vibrate from when
you came down the ramp, through the
497
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,440
curtain, and you're out there for the
first time.
498
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:21,260
My stress level rose because of trying
to remember 160 -some different steps.
499
00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:24,180
One.
500
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,520
Two.
501
00:32:32,379 --> 00:32:35,180
3 4
502
00:32:35,180 --> 00:32:42,000
5
503
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,820
6 7 8 9
504
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:13,640
It's never as good as when you have one
pure good guy and one evil bad guy, and
505
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,960
they're doing things that are athletic
and excellent and great and violent with
506
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,960
reckless abandon.
507
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,460
159, 160.
508
00:33:36,910 --> 00:33:37,930
It is done.
509
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:42,110
It worked.
510
00:33:42,250 --> 00:33:43,770
It is perfect.
511
00:33:44,350 --> 00:33:48,190
To this day, people think it was like
one of the best matches ever.
512
00:33:49,010 --> 00:33:53,950
The goal of a match is to tell a story
within a match. How can you, with your
513
00:33:53,950 --> 00:33:57,810
body and your face, tell a story to the
fan?
514
00:33:59,090 --> 00:34:05,810
There was nothing like the rush from the
crowd after taking the fans on a
515
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:06,810
ride.
516
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:08,730
20 false finishes.
517
00:34:09,130 --> 00:34:11,110
The sound was deafening.
518
00:34:12,070 --> 00:34:14,409
You see the crowd jump up and react.
519
00:34:14,690 --> 00:34:17,250
I've watched it a thousand times. I
still get the chills.
520
00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:21,750
It's the definition of what the art of
professional wrestling is supposed to
521
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:26,090
I'll never forget Savage when I covered
him.
522
00:34:26,429 --> 00:34:28,409
Randy goes, we got him, Dragon.
523
00:34:28,889 --> 00:34:30,090
We got him.
524
00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:37,730
And Elizabeth leading.
525
00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:44,730
It's a labor of love, and it's a craft
that when done at the highest level is
526
00:34:44,730 --> 00:34:45,730
art.
527
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:50,489
Savage, even though he was obsessed with
living the character, didn't seem to
528
00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:51,510
care about wins and losses.
529
00:34:52,449 --> 00:34:56,630
I'm going to lose the theme boat at the
biggest thing in front of 93 ,000
530
00:34:56,630 --> 00:35:00,450
people? No problem. It's going to be
awesome. We're going to make it
531
00:35:00,950 --> 00:35:04,450
A truly great wrestler should be as
happy.
532
00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:10,550
When the third count hits, if he's on
the top or looking up, it should be the
533
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:14,730
same thing. If the crowd reacts, you
should be happy either way.
534
00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:21,710
The match actually ruined his life
because he could never top that night.
535
00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:22,750
could never top the match.
536
00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:24,610
His standards were too high.
537
00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:28,550
That's where it all blew up, right
there, man.
538
00:35:35,150 --> 00:35:36,150
Perfectly ridiculous.
539
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:38,870
With Mr. Perfect, you can achieve
perfection.
540
00:35:39,730 --> 00:35:43,790
Randy and I, I think we had 300
licensees each at one time.
541
00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:46,370
So Randy was running neck and neck with
my merchandise.
542
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:53,970
Everywhere they booked Randy Savage and
Hulk Hogan, it was always, always sold
543
00:35:53,970 --> 00:35:56,350
out. Everywhere. We couldn't do anything
wrong.
544
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,500
Hogan wasn't threatened at all by
anybody.
545
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:09,180
And there was no one around that could
touch Hulk Hogan at the time. But Randy
546
00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:12,040
Savage came close at that time.
547
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,000
I feel real strongly about this man
right here, yeah.
548
00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:23,420
This is the man who is going to lose to
the macho man, Randy
549
00:36:23,420 --> 00:36:24,820
Savage. Isn't that right, Elizabeth?
550
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:27,720
Randy was a little more indoctrined to
it and knew the life.
551
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,480
style because of his being the second
generation of his family whereas terry
552
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,620
kind of stumbled into it and i think
that maybe randy always resented that a
553
00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:40,720
little bit that hogan not only stumbled
into it but also became the biggest and
554
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:46,820
outshined him there was no jealousy over
anything like that no problem at all
555
00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:50,740
baby no problem at all you see my t
-shirt
556
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:57,670
Everybody's going to be seeing a Hulk
cool Vince McMahon.
557
00:36:57,930 --> 00:37:03,170
I think everyone that has been or will
be ever in the WWE will be in Hogan's
558
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:08,790
shadow. I don't think Randy ever thought
he would overshadow the Hulkster. Hulk
559
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:10,750
Hogan is going to be the unbeatable guy.
560
00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:13,450
That's the way it is.
561
00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:15,350
Those eyes right there.
562
00:37:15,550 --> 00:37:16,550
Those eyes.
563
00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:21,410
You got my face. You got luck for
Elizabeth right there.
564
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:25,330
I think Randy Savage doesn't get nearly
enough credit for how important he was
565
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:27,770
to the success of the WWE at that time.
566
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:31,770
Hulk Hogan seems to be the guy that's
like, there was Hulk Hogan and there was
567
00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:32,770
wrestling.
568
00:37:36,970 --> 00:37:41,470
He was intense.
569
00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:48,070
Mix a little intensity with the right
toxins and the right poisons and he'd
570
00:37:48,070 --> 00:37:49,070
a little crazy.
571
00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:58,550
Tonight is the first time that I've ever
been the prize in a match.
572
00:37:58,770 --> 00:38:01,430
If Randy wins, I stay with him.
573
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:06,530
And if George wins, he gets the title
and he gets to keep me.
574
00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:09,850
Tonight is definitely the scariest night
of my life.
575
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:15,030
When we look back on Randy Savage's
career, so many of the most influential
576
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:18,810
matches and storylines of his career
involved Miss Elizabeth.
577
00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:23,270
So without her being a foil and a
catalyst in his storytelling, we
578
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:24,970
remember those iconic, epic matches.
579
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,040
You grab her and push him in front of
him. He was the king of that move, of
580
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,520
grabbing her and being like, no, no, not
today.
581
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,480
You know, like, you're going to hit my
woman? And you're like, what a dick.
582
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,500
To use Elizabeth in the storyline was so
easy.
583
00:38:42,260 --> 00:38:45,880
Looking back, we weren't setting a good
example for kids watching at home. It's
584
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,540
not something we do today, but we learn
and we move on.
585
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,900
It's professional wrestling, man. I call
it the theater of the absurd.
586
00:38:54,220 --> 00:38:57,760
Anytime you cross that line, that stirs
the fan's reaction.
587
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,300
When you stir their reactions, you start
putting asses in seats.
588
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,900
And that's what it's all about.
589
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:09,440
She was the first major valet in
wrestling to be kind of part of the
590
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,900
The husband -wife team working together,
I don't think we really had anything
591
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:18,860
like that before, so it was unique.
592
00:39:19,590 --> 00:39:22,850
Randy was extremely possessive with
Elizabeth.
593
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:30,850
If you're given to be a certain way, and
594
00:39:30,850 --> 00:39:35,250
I can take that and boost it up, you
know, then it becomes larger than life.
595
00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:37,690
It worked. It just worked.
596
00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:41,790
Miss Elizabeth broke the mold.
597
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:49,120
You remove Elizabeth from the equation
of Randy Savage, and he's just a guy
598
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,180
talks weird and is incredible in the
ring.
599
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Miss Elizabeth anchored Randy Poffo to
that character.
600
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,920
I don't think she had any clue about how
talented she was and how beautiful she
601
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,000
was. She didn't have a healthy body
image. Liz struggled with eating
602
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,760
She struggled with bulimia.
603
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,000
So she really struggled with just self
-confidence.
604
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,660
She tried to be what she thought the man
that she was having whatever
605
00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:20,780
relationship at the time with, what they
wanted her to be.
606
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,160
So she would get lost in the
relationship.
607
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,860
I was the first one to push Liz down in
a very physical altercation where I
608
00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:31,860
shoved her sideways.
609
00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:33,860
That was really, really a big deal.
610
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,780
He asked me to come up to his hotel
room, and we went over.
611
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,000
The pushing of Liz for about two hours.
She was falling on the bed when I was
612
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000
pushing her sideways.
613
00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:50,120
How they got Randy to go for that or to
do that, that's a mystery.
614
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:59,180
30 or 35 million people tuned in to see
it.
615
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,440
They came up with the idea of the slap.
616
00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:07,990
Not me.
617
00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:12,690
That was the last thing I thought I'd
ever do. I got more heat from the fans
618
00:41:12,690 --> 00:41:14,810
slapping her than I did for the snake
biting Randy.
619
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:19,710
The wrestling fans destroyed my car.
620
00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:24,010
Knocked all the windows out of it,
busted the headlights, taillights.
621
00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:29,590
It's like the thing with slapping a
woman. You don't do that. That's
622
00:41:29,590 --> 00:41:32,750
in here, man. That's one of the two top
evil things you can do.
623
00:41:33,070 --> 00:41:35,450
Can you imagine somebody slapping
somebody today?
624
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:41,320
Randy and Liz were married in real life.
However, on camera, their relationship
625
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,560
was never, it was never exposed and it
was never talked about. It was more of
626
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,120
animal magnetism and attraction.
627
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,680
Randy's character changed. Randy went
from a very popular character to just a
628
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,800
despised character, the Macho King.
629
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,220
Savage goes full bad guy because of
jealousy. A very real reason to turn.
630
00:42:05,380 --> 00:42:07,360
Elizabeth is out. Sherry's in.
631
00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:12,620
Queen Sherry, what kind of rules are
there?
632
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:14,700
No!
633
00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:17,200
Hold back!
634
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560
She turns on the macho man.
635
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:24,060
In the crowd, Elizabeth.
636
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:36,250
When she came back and slapped Sherry,
come on.
637
00:42:36,910 --> 00:42:37,910
Come on.
638
00:42:38,310 --> 00:42:41,130
Everyone popped. Everyone went nuts. I
loved it.
639
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:44,290
Hello, Howard.
640
00:42:44,570 --> 00:42:47,730
Bring us up to date on the travels of
the World Wrestling Federation.
641
00:42:48,650 --> 00:42:52,050
I mean, you could be in Dallas one night
and Miami the next and then up to
642
00:42:52,050 --> 00:42:56,410
Chicago the next. And this would just
keep right on going. And the traveling
643
00:42:56,410 --> 00:42:57,490
part was the hardest.
644
00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:03,670
We were running so hard in those days,
man. We were running seven days a week,
645
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:04,710
every night.
646
00:43:06,930 --> 00:43:09,490
Our way of dealing with it wasn't right.
647
00:43:11,630 --> 00:43:15,870
Guys were doing steroids. You guys were
doing a lot of pills, man. You know, a
648
00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:16,870
lot of pills.
649
00:43:18,270 --> 00:43:22,510
Some others, including myself, did fair
amounts of cocaine just to get going.
650
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:27,510
Your body needs time to heal.
651
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,780
These guys, their whole empire is built
upon their physique, so to speak. So I
652
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:37,440
got to think that's very, very tough on
them.
653
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:40,900
It's a world of action figures, and when
you put yourself out there as much as
654
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:44,200
wrestlers do, your body ain't going to
keep the body of an action figure.
655
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:49,680
It's tough enough to do it by yourself,
not to imagine having your wife there
656
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,020
with you every step of the way with, you
know, sharks tagging behind.
657
00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:56,400
Randy really loved her.
658
00:43:56,830 --> 00:43:59,310
And I know that he wouldn't have it any
other way.
659
00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:01,030
Mr. Elizabeth's with him.
660
00:44:01,810 --> 00:44:06,050
You know, the business is tough. It's
just the road. It's a tough business. I
661
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:08,770
don't know of any husband -wife teams
that have done it since.
662
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:13,310
But there's probably a reason why that
doesn't happen a lot in wrestling
663
00:44:13,310 --> 00:44:14,350
it'll ruin you.
664
00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:20,310
I guess in hindsight, he just finally
couldn't take it anymore. Not only
665
00:44:20,310 --> 00:44:24,530
sometimes was Randy overprotective, he
was a little bit overbearing on Liz.
666
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,940
And I really think that she just reached
her breaking point.
667
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,880
I think he always felt like there was
somebody else in her life besides him.
668
00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:34,460
When there really wasn't, how could it
be?
669
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:39,120
You're locked in the house and you can't
go out on the road. Nobody can touch
670
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,680
you. Nobody can see you. How in the
world could she fall in love with
671
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,680
else?
672
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:46,540
Elizabeth, I love you.
673
00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:06,770
When Randy the Wrestler and Miss
Elizabeth were having a great life on
674
00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:11,830
were having a horrible life in real
life. And I think that was a huge, huge
675
00:45:11,830 --> 00:45:15,550
accelerator, so to speak, of the demise.
676
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:21,610
Can you imagine that? Like if your
marriage was seriously in trouble and
677
00:45:21,610 --> 00:45:23,530
to publicly get married again.
678
00:45:24,759 --> 00:45:28,300
So the world is kind of like, oh, my
God, that's so cool, you guys are
679
00:45:28,460 --> 00:45:31,420
It's like, no, no, actually, we were
married, and now we're barely married.
680
00:45:33,020 --> 00:45:37,200
I wonder how much of the worst of him
was brought out by the wrestling
681
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,700
They clearly brought the best out of him
professionally, but I wonder how much
682
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:45,940
it cost him personally.
683
00:45:56,940 --> 00:46:01,840
As the orchestra played, the formal line
of eager guests gave their
684
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,900
congratulations to the happy couple.
685
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,460
I remember Randy coming to me.
686
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,340
Liz is very unhappy with me and thinks
she wants a divorce.
687
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:14,040
And I said, well, maybe she just wants a
little bit of freedom. But I knew he
688
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,780
was really heartbroken over that, you
know.
689
00:46:21,020 --> 00:46:22,700
I don't know if anybody ever.
690
00:46:23,230 --> 00:46:28,010
looked at Randy and his wife's situation
and said, hey, maybe I should step in
691
00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:29,010
and say something.
692
00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:34,030
If you knew Randy, I don't think that
would have slept well with him. I think
693
00:46:34,030 --> 00:46:38,970
maybe later on, Hulk Hogan and the time
Hulk's wife may have crossed that line,
694
00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:41,450
and that didn't go well either.
695
00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:49,410
I didn't realize that Wiz was uneasy.
696
00:46:54,570 --> 00:46:56,870
I just remember Randy had just bought a
boat.
697
00:46:57,130 --> 00:47:00,550
My ex -wife was on the dock, and, you
know, her and Liz were talking. She
698
00:47:00,570 --> 00:47:04,530
yeah, well, Terry's going down to Miami
to shoot a movie called Mr. Nanny. We'll
699
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:06,670
be down there a couple months, and I'll
be there with the kids, and he's going
700
00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:10,070
to be working on it. So if you get
bored, come on down and hang out and
701
00:47:10,070 --> 00:47:15,570
with the kids. So I went down the next
day to Miami, and I was shooting night,
702
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:20,710
and I guess I left work about 5 o 'clock
when I came in at 6 in the morning.
703
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,360
I saw the red Cadillac out there. Hmm,
that's Liz's car, you know.
704
00:47:26,860 --> 00:47:30,180
I go upstairs, and I said, where's Liz
at?
705
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:34,040
My ex -wife was still asleep. She goes,
oh, she's in the back room over there. I
706
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,240
just kind of peeked in the other room,
and no one was in the bed. And I went,
707
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,280
hmm.
708
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,940
I didn't think nothing of it, so I went
to sleep and got up, worked out, did my
709
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:44,800
thing. The next day, I went to work
again. At night, I came in, same thing.
710
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,500
Nobody in the bed. I said, okay, here's
the deal.
711
00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:48,160
I don't know what's going on.
712
00:47:48,510 --> 00:47:51,030
But if she's not going to be sleeping
here, she needs to get her stuff out of
713
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:52,670
here. Because I don't want any heat.
714
00:47:53,110 --> 00:47:57,070
And so as things progressed, I saw her
down by the pool hanging out with the
715
00:47:57,070 --> 00:47:59,910
that played tennis. And I was getting
ready to go to work at night.
716
00:48:00,190 --> 00:48:03,830
And I came out of the shower about 6 o
'clock and I heard the scream. Where is
717
00:48:03,830 --> 00:48:07,410
she at? Where is she at? Do you know
where she's at? And I said, oh my God,
718
00:48:07,410 --> 00:48:09,690
here. So I put a towel on and went out
in the living room.
719
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:14,710
And there was Randy standing over my ex
-wife pointing his finger going, you
720
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:15,910
know where I live? I said, Randy?
721
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:18,490
Tom, you're, you know what, down,
brother.
722
00:48:19,050 --> 00:48:22,510
Grabbed the manager. I said, hey,
brother, this is Macho Man. His wife's
723
00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:24,010
He doesn't have a key to her room. We
need a key to her room.
724
00:48:24,350 --> 00:48:27,150
So the manager walked us all the way
around the back of the hotel.
725
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:32,250
Guy put the key in the door to open it.
Randy pushed the door open and goes,
726
00:48:32,250 --> 00:48:33,089
hey, Liz.
727
00:48:33,090 --> 00:48:34,690
And I took off. I was gone.
728
00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:37,650
All of a sudden, I get ready to leave to
go to work, and there's like 20 cop
729
00:48:37,650 --> 00:48:38,730
cars outside the hotel.
730
00:48:40,610 --> 00:48:41,930
I was blamed for that.
731
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,120
The truth is, after the second guy
should have called him right away and
732
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,280
hey, man, I don't know where your wife's
at, but her car is here. She's in my
733
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,700
room. I should have done that, I guess.
734
00:48:49,020 --> 00:48:51,540
That's where our relationship fell apart
for about 10 years.
735
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:56,860
Just as intense as the wrestling was,
that's how much he hated me in real
736
00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:01,260
I just figured if I got her out of my
room, I had no idea she didn't call
737
00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:05,740
I had no idea that she left and packed
all of her stuff up and didn't tell him
738
00:49:05,740 --> 00:49:08,400
she was done with the marriage. I didn't
know any of this stuff.
739
00:49:08,830 --> 00:49:11,950
I just thought she came down to hang
out. She left him and didn't tell us.
740
00:49:18,910 --> 00:49:21,810
Let's just be honest. The day that Randy
died, he still loved Miss Elizabeth.
741
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:25,170
Like, I mean, that's his ultra love in
life.
742
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:32,070
And so as he's losing her in real life,
he has to act like, you know, worse in
743
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:35,430
love, getting the whole nine yards. And
so, I mean, I can't even understand how
744
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:36,430
much pain that would be.
745
00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:42,300
Boy, that's right the real deal right
here. I'm the Macho Man Randy Savage,
746
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:46,660
me, Gene Okerlund, I'm going to be your
co -host, yeah, on All -American
747
00:49:46,660 --> 00:49:50,920
Wrestling. Do you have any problem with
that? I don't have a problem at all. I
748
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,000
don't know why Vince puts people on
commentary other than the fact that he
749
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,280
have another vision of what needs to be
done for the product.
750
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,900
Vince, I don't think, wanted him to work
anymore.
751
00:50:03,550 --> 00:50:06,810
They wanted to get him out of the ring
and do commentary, and Randy always felt
752
00:50:06,810 --> 00:50:07,890
like he had some matches left.
753
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:12,350
The reason that I argue that Randy
Savage is probably the greatest who ever
754
00:50:12,350 --> 00:50:18,730
lived is because he literally could do
every single aspect of professional
755
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:22,130
wrestling, except for commentary, and
was not a fan of that.
756
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:25,710
You've got to be able to get a patent on
some of these wrestling holes. People
757
00:50:25,710 --> 00:50:27,810
are stealing them. That's the million
-dollar dream.
758
00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:32,270
Randy probably looked at it as, man, do
they not think that I'm...
759
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,740
Good enough in the ring anymore that
they're going to put me out here as a
760
00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:41,800
commentator? His voice was a small doses
thing. You don't want to just, you're
761
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,800
running commentary, oh, up the top, oh,
there we go.
762
00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:48,980
After two hours of it, it's like, ah, it
doesn't have the same mystique anymore.
763
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:51,520
Are you ever going to get back in the
ring?
764
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,860
Absolutely. Thanks for asking me that
question.
765
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,580
I'm going to just, you know, I've been
on the sidelines kind of just picking my
766
00:50:57,580 --> 00:51:00,180
shots, and I feel an opportunity coming
up really.
767
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,600
really, really soon, within a week, in
fact, and I'm going to get back into the
768
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,960
ring. I'm going to still be doing the
broadcast because I really enjoy it, and
769
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,460
I'm broadcasting because I want to, not
because I have to.
770
00:51:10,780 --> 00:51:14,520
But when I get back into the squared
circle, I'm going to make a quick name
771
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,080
myself again, and I'm going to go after
that World Wrestling Federation
772
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,300
Championship belt for the third time, a
three -peat.
773
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,980
Randy had a lot of fight left in him, a
lot of gas in the tank. He had no knee
774
00:51:23,980 --> 00:51:27,120
replacements. Randy hadn't had any major
surgeries.
775
00:51:27,380 --> 00:51:29,120
His legs were good. He tore his tricep.
776
00:51:29,930 --> 00:51:33,950
I knocked his teeth out one time by
accident. He was in great shape, man. He
777
00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:34,950
could go.
778
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:38,170
When they wrestle me, they turn out to
be a clown one way or another. Yeah,
779
00:51:38,170 --> 00:51:43,690
Doink the Clown. Doink the Clown, Hulk
Hogan the Clown, or whatever it is. You
780
00:51:43,690 --> 00:51:46,850
know, it doesn't even matter. I know you
and Hulk were kind of friends there for
781
00:51:46,850 --> 00:51:47,990
a while. Kind of not, too.
782
00:51:48,190 --> 00:51:49,190
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
783
00:51:50,090 --> 00:51:52,210
Kind of and kind of not, yeah.
784
00:51:52,750 --> 00:51:54,910
Somewhere in between, uh -huh. Yeah.
785
00:51:55,580 --> 00:51:58,980
They said, we're having a youth
movement. The best thing you can do is
786
00:51:58,980 --> 00:51:59,980
to the mic.
787
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:05,000
He says, well, I'll get a second opinion
on that. And it turned out WCW didn't
788
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,760
think he was too old. I'll never forget
the night that it happened.
789
00:52:08,060 --> 00:52:11,400
I remember Vince walking around saying,
has anybody seen Randy? I would need to
790
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,400
go over the format with him. And then an
hour before our show started, somebody
791
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,380
came to Vince and said, hey, Vince, turn
on the TV.
792
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,820
It gives me an upright feel of pleasure
to introduce...
793
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,760
Truly one of the all -time greats in
professional wrestling, finally arriving
794
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,180
World Championship Wrestling.
795
00:52:30,740 --> 00:52:35,000
I was with Vince at the time, right in
the same room, and he no -sold it.
796
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,820
There was no expression change on his
face at all. He looked around, he looked
797
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:42,680
over at me, he said, King, could you do
the commentary with me tonight?
798
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:48,740
Randy, I know you're out there
listening, and on behalf of all of us,
799
00:52:48,740 --> 00:52:50,560
your fans, and certainly me,
800
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,420
The number one fan, I'd like to say
thank you for all of your positive
801
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:58,240
contributions. Even when it was
happening, a lot of people didn't
802
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,740
happening. Wish you nothing but the
best.
803
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:02,820
Godspeed and good luck.
804
00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:04,920
It was a surprise.
805
00:53:06,049 --> 00:53:07,810
And not a pleasant one.
806
00:53:08,110 --> 00:53:12,210
And it was, you know, it hurt. They
wanted me to do the commentary thing,
807
00:53:12,210 --> 00:53:15,250
know, which I will want to do sometime,
you know, because I got a pretty good
808
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:17,030
slanted viewpoint on things, you know.
809
00:53:17,370 --> 00:53:20,650
I feel that I would like to express it
at some time. You know, it's not even
810
00:53:20,650 --> 00:53:24,490
now. But I just wasn't ready, you know,
to take off my boots at that point. I'm
811
00:53:24,490 --> 00:53:25,448
glad I didn't.
812
00:53:25,450 --> 00:53:26,830
I don't think he wanted to do that.
813
00:53:28,210 --> 00:53:29,210
He didn't want to do that.
814
00:53:31,610 --> 00:53:32,610
Who, Randy?
815
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,700
Macho Man and Hulk Hogan have a date
with destiny.
816
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:44,240
Oh, yeah. Star King, dig it. All right.
The Macho Man, Randy Savage, already
817
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:48,720
making his presence known here on WCW
Saturday night.
818
00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:49,940
Oh, yeah.
819
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,440
During the Monday Night Wars, when WWE
and WCW were going head -to -head on TV
820
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,160
on the same night, for a long time, WCW,
they were winning the Monday Night
821
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,220
Wars. And part of that was because a lot
of talent would jump ship, and Randy
822
00:54:13,220 --> 00:54:16,540
was one of those talents. I mean, he was
a big, big star.
823
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,360
I think it was devastating.
824
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:20,860
You know, I think it was because he was
our captain.
825
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:24,900
I remember...
826
00:54:25,340 --> 00:54:29,760
A bunch of us were talking and saying,
like, man, we don't have any stars.
827
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,860
So we all felt maybe there was a shift
going on. Like, gosh, the two biggest
828
00:54:37,860 --> 00:54:41,320
guys of our era, Hogan and Randy Savage,
are there?
829
00:54:44,580 --> 00:54:48,760
There was a huge rift with Randy and
Hogan.
830
00:54:49,130 --> 00:54:55,730
So when Randy went to WCW, it was always
a very businesslike relationship.
831
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:58,930
It was a really smart move because Randy
wasn't done wrestling.
832
00:54:59,150 --> 00:55:03,030
Vince told him he was done wrestling,
and Randy wasn't done wrestling. He had
833
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:07,070
major impact on the wrestling business
once he came over and got back in the
834
00:55:07,070 --> 00:55:08,070
ring again.
835
00:55:08,890 --> 00:55:11,130
Randy was highly motivated, so was I.
836
00:55:11,660 --> 00:55:15,180
And when you get two highly motivated
people that each want really the same
837
00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:17,080
thing, then it's just about numbers.
838
00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:21,280
And what was really, really interesting
about negotiating the Randy Savage deal
839
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:27,320
is it didn't cost me a dime. Because
when Randy Savage made the jump to WCW,
840
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,320
did Slim Jim.
841
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:36,280
He took Slim Jim
842
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,380
with him.
843
00:55:37,660 --> 00:55:39,420
And that was to the tune of...
844
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:42,420
$750 ,000 per year.
845
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,420
Macho man got me to eat Slim Jims.
846
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,800
So any irregularity I have with my
bowels is on you, Slim Jim. I'm going to
847
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,360
you to court. Drop the elbow from it,
yeah.
848
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,140
Intestinal fortitude not included, yeah.
849
00:56:05,540 --> 00:56:07,000
What do you see? Slim Jim.
850
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,800
Slim Jim.
851
00:56:10,580 --> 00:56:16,180
You could tell he was struggling with
aging in WCW, and you could tell he was
852
00:56:16,180 --> 00:56:19,200
doing whatever he had to do to keep his
body in shape.
853
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,820
And he got too big.
854
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:22,560
I'm not giving up.
855
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,580
I'm just getting started.
856
00:56:25,180 --> 00:56:29,760
In that period of time, it was about
guys being bigger, stronger, faster.
857
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:31,480
You know, it was an all -sports.
858
00:56:32,420 --> 00:56:36,960
A lot of wrestlers took steroids just to
heal and to maintain their body.
859
00:56:39,310 --> 00:56:43,110
If you're on the road like that, you're
not eating properly, you're not getting
860
00:56:43,110 --> 00:56:46,150
the right sleep, your body starts to
tear down.
861
00:56:46,430 --> 00:56:47,430
Did Randy use it?
862
00:56:47,650 --> 00:56:49,010
I've never seen him do it.
863
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:51,750
Now, if you ask me if I think he did,
yes.
864
00:56:52,930 --> 00:56:53,950
That's just my own thought.
865
00:56:54,690 --> 00:56:55,970
I've been wrong before, though.
866
00:56:58,630 --> 00:57:03,870
He got his money in WCW, you know? He
went and cashed in, got a nice check,
867
00:57:04,010 --> 00:57:06,030
money he could have lived off of for the
rest of his life.
868
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,640
He did sort of in WCW kind of end up in
Hogan's shadow again.
869
00:57:13,060 --> 00:57:16,840
In WWE, it was almost like he was
lurking in the shadows of Hogan, like,
870
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,060
right here. I could do this. In WCW, it
wasn't like that. He was never a threat
871
00:57:22,060 --> 00:57:23,060
to Hogan's spot.
872
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,140
I think there was a lot of competition.
I think until the day that Randy Savage
873
00:57:27,140 --> 00:57:32,420
died, there was a lot of emotional
feelings between he and Hogan.
874
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,980
It was kind of scary.
875
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Even though neither one of them would
talk about it, they didn't need to have
876
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,600
anybody tell you what was happening.
877
00:57:39,820 --> 00:57:40,820
You could see it.
878
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,080
They didn't get along.
879
00:57:42,660 --> 00:57:44,300
They did not get along.
880
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,720
Larry Bishop came to me. He said, hey,
man, you get an opportunity to grab
881
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Elizabeth. They were divorced, you know.
882
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:56,060
I went, oh, my God, if we could get her,
that would be so intense.
883
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,640
When Miss Elizabeth wanted to come to
WCW, it was Randy who was one of her
884
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,640
biggest advocates.
885
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,400
Randy had moved on with his personal
life, so there was no excess baggage.
886
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,220
He didn't have a problem with it at all.
He said, man, if there's money to be
887
00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:12,220
made, let's make it.
888
00:58:12,860 --> 00:58:13,860
My boy.
889
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,780
By the time that I met Liz and we were
getting to know each other, I had the
890
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:24,400
sense that she had completely moved on
from the marriage with Randy.
891
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,500
She had met someone.
892
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:32,180
All of a sudden, Liz was converting to
Judaism and moving to Florida.
893
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,560
You know, it didn't last long, but she
tried.
894
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,380
What I thought at the time was an
innocent workplace flirtation. And sure
895
00:58:45,380 --> 00:58:49,880
enough, there is no such thing as
innocent workplace flirtation. So
896
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,480
together and being around each other, we
definitely crossed those boundaries.
897
00:58:56,060 --> 00:59:02,520
My best friend from wrestling, Stink, he
tried to sit down with me many times.
898
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,240
Talk to me about it.
899
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,560
Man,
900
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:11,360
I just, I wouldn't do that. There just
wasn't any stopping him at the time.
901
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:18,740
It didn't seem like it was probably the
best idea for a number of pretty obvious
902
00:59:18,740 --> 00:59:22,700
reasons, but somebody else's life and
they're going to do what they're going
903
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:23,700
do.
904
00:59:24,580 --> 00:59:27,300
When it became obvious to me.
905
00:59:27,740 --> 00:59:31,860
I thought, okay, here we go. This is
that iceberg, the Titanic hit that
906
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:33,720
saw coming. Here comes mine.
907
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,080
And it didn't happen.
908
00:59:35,260 --> 00:59:40,180
I think Randy was just kind of maybe
over it, just kind of was keeping his
909
00:59:40,180 --> 00:59:41,180
distance.
910
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:48,340
It was like a full circle situation
because, you know, if I hadn't have done
911
00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:51,420
that, then I hadn't have got over it.
You know what I mean? Because, you know,
912
00:59:51,420 --> 00:59:52,420
don't believe in taking it.
913
00:59:52,430 --> 00:59:56,130
taking anything to the grave, you know
what I mean? You know, because me and
914
00:59:56,130 --> 00:59:59,950
Elizabeth are still friends, you know
what I mean? Just something that didn't
915
00:59:59,950 --> 01:00:04,150
work, and it was a no -problem
situation, you know what I mean? And
916
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:07,810
know, life goes on, and, you know, just,
you know, you shouldn't spend the rest
917
01:00:07,810 --> 01:00:09,350
of your life dwelling over any one
thing.
918
01:00:12,070 --> 01:00:16,890
When he had Liz, I don't think he really
went out. When they separated, it was
919
01:00:16,890 --> 01:00:19,590
almost like having, like, a freshman in
college.
920
01:00:20,090 --> 01:00:21,330
What are we doing tonight?
921
01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:28,170
I believe Randy Savage met Gorgeous
George outside of the wrestling
922
01:00:28,310 --> 01:00:32,170
I'm not sure what she was doing for a
living at the time. There may have been
923
01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:33,430
some dancing involved.
924
01:00:35,310 --> 01:00:39,590
I moved to Tampa, and the first person
that I met was Randy.
925
01:00:40,270 --> 01:00:42,930
It's kind of like fate. I totally
believe in fate.
926
01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:45,850
The first place I've worked is the
dollhouse.
927
01:00:46,540 --> 01:00:50,960
So I get in there. They give me a
sequined gown that I owe money for at
928
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,240
of the week. I'm on the set list to go
on stage.
929
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,240
I didn't even have enough money to get a
drink for myself.
930
01:00:56,540 --> 01:01:01,000
So I'm sitting there, and some old guy
starts whacking me in my arm.
931
01:01:01,260 --> 01:01:03,420
And he's like, girl, buy me a drink.
932
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,600
And I was like, you buy me a drink. And
he starts fighting with me. So next
933
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:13,780
thing I know, I got grabbed up and
thrown outside the dollhouse on my knees
934
01:01:13,780 --> 01:01:14,780
sequined gown.
935
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,940
Some guy comes up to me, and he goes,
hey, girl, are you okay?
936
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,020
And I'm like, dude, did you just see
what happened?
937
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,980
He's like, yo, that wouldn't have
happened if you wouldn't have been
938
01:01:24,980 --> 01:01:26,060
on Evel Knievel.
939
01:01:26,460 --> 01:01:29,460
And I get to looking at him, and I'm
like, macho man?
940
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,600
I mean, this was like a surreal dream.
941
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,880
He gave me his phone number and an
address.
942
01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:37,620
So I got this piece of paper with his
phone number in my hand, and I'm
943
01:01:37,620 --> 01:01:38,620
to myself, well,
944
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,200
it might be cool.
945
01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:44,810
She was a lot younger than all of us.
She was the perfect eye candy for the
946
01:01:44,810 --> 01:01:45,950
macho man, for the gimmick.
947
01:01:46,550 --> 01:01:49,190
Where Elizabeth was unclosed, she got
plugged back in.
948
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:55,388
Gorgeous George.
949
01:01:55,390 --> 01:01:57,390
She was cool. I mean, young.
950
01:01:57,970 --> 01:02:01,670
And she was kind of hip. She kind of
updated Randy.
951
01:02:01,890 --> 01:02:03,650
Randy got kind of a cool factor.
952
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:08,310
That's when he started wearing leather.
That's when he got really jacked.
953
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,140
He got rid of all the flair. He was
coming out in just like black leather
954
01:02:12,140 --> 01:02:14,120
necklace. Here comes the macho man.
955
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,400
Thursday night, Thunder, Monday night, I
troll.
956
01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:21,920
It just kept going, you know. There was
never no let up. We traveled over 300
957
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,920
days a year.
958
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,580
There's the celebration.
959
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,820
My sister, she's about 17 at the time.
She moved down to Florida to watch my
960
01:02:30,820 --> 01:02:34,140
son. So when we went to travel, I
trusted somebody.
961
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,720
My sister had called me. She said, I'm
going to be wrestling, and with Isaac
962
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,760
being down here, I need someone that I
can trust to watch him.
963
01:02:47,980 --> 01:02:49,400
And, you know, I'm down.
964
01:02:51,580 --> 01:02:52,960
Randy was really nice to me.
965
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,880
He was just really focused on his work.
Macho Man, he would take me to Toys R
966
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,060
Us. He would buy different action
figures for me and stuff, and a couple
967
01:03:01,060 --> 01:03:03,260
he actually bought himself as an action
figure.
968
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:04,500
It was cool.
969
01:03:04,780 --> 01:03:05,780
Oh,
970
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,040
that's nice.
971
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:14,770
Randy and George had the reputation in
town of really partying, and that
972
01:03:14,770 --> 01:03:15,770
reputation got out.
973
01:03:16,770 --> 01:03:21,670
They seemed to have a good time. After
shows and matches, they went out
974
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:23,490
together. She partied hard.
975
01:03:24,450 --> 01:03:25,690
George wasn't afraid.
976
01:03:26,510 --> 01:03:30,490
George came from the stripping
community, and Randy was, I think,
977
01:03:30,490 --> 01:03:34,150
vicariously in a young type of way
through George. I don't know what the
978
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:35,630
was. I think it was quite extensive.
979
01:03:36,410 --> 01:03:39,130
Even though he was older, he didn't act
older.
980
01:03:39,570 --> 01:03:41,830
He was fast going, upbeat.
981
01:03:42,190 --> 01:03:46,570
He worked out every day. He was just go,
go, go, go, go. That was Randy.
982
01:03:47,690 --> 01:03:52,570
When I first met Randy, he was
definitely doing steroids. There was
983
01:03:52,570 --> 01:03:54,410
veins. He had veins in his eyelids.
984
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:59,510
If he started to regress from it, he'd
see the difference in his body change.
985
01:03:59,790 --> 01:04:04,750
So as soon as he thought for one second
he was getting older, he'd push more.
986
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:09,150
We would always stop at his mom and
dad's, and Angelo would put me in the
987
01:04:09,150 --> 01:04:13,490
massage chair. He would take Randy
upstairs to give him his medicine.
988
01:04:15,050 --> 01:04:20,630
The dad would distribute the things that
he needed to enhance his physical
989
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:25,810
being. I would stay in the chair until
the shots were distributed, and then
990
01:04:25,810 --> 01:04:27,250
jump in the car and leave.
991
01:04:28,050 --> 01:04:32,450
We were doing alcohol, ecstasy,
steroids, uppers, downers.
992
01:04:35,660 --> 01:04:38,880
He liked to indulge in some ecstasy.
993
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:45,380
In Florida, it was kind of on the scene,
especially over in Tampa.
994
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,920
He'd sometimes give me $200 or $300, and
I would go and get them, and I'd give
995
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,920
them to him.
996
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:58,180
Randy would walk around with $1 ,000 or
more worth of ecstasy pills in his hip
997
01:04:58,180 --> 01:04:59,920
sack at all times.
998
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,300
There's one really distinctful time we
were high.
999
01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:07,780
It was when we were wearing the red
outfits.
1000
01:05:12,540 --> 01:05:13,040
People
1001
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:19,760
were like,
1002
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,920
what is he talking about?
1003
01:05:21,420 --> 01:05:23,160
We were so high.
1004
01:05:32,330 --> 01:05:37,410
At the height of my success was the
worst part I've ever been in my entire
1005
01:05:37,610 --> 01:05:40,070
I looked gorgeous. I looked beautiful.
1006
01:05:40,310 --> 01:05:41,850
I looked like I had it together.
1007
01:05:42,250 --> 01:05:44,990
And at the same time, I had nothing
together.
1008
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:51,490
I heard about Randy doing things to live
through the grapevine.
1009
01:05:51,870 --> 01:05:56,950
I had heard that she had to go to Hulk
Hogan's house to hide from him with his
1010
01:05:56,950 --> 01:06:01,720
wife. I'd heard about her eating in
closets. I'd heard about all this stuff.
1011
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:08,140
I didn't believe it because he was so
good to me. And then as time went on,
1012
01:06:08,140 --> 01:06:10,140
steroids got worse and worse.
1013
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,360
And the paranoid schizophrenia started
to grow more and more.
1014
01:06:16,220 --> 01:06:17,540
I was so young.
1015
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:21,980
I had no idea how to categorize what I
was seeing.
1016
01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:24,720
I didn't see the side of him yet.
1017
01:06:25,470 --> 01:06:27,490
until now he's looking at me like that.
1018
01:06:28,350 --> 01:06:33,270
One day, I'm cleaning his house, and all
of a sudden, I notice this fuse box on
1019
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:34,830
the bottom of the broom closet.
1020
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:39,610
I go to open it up. So I put the keys
in, and I turn them, and I pull it out,
1021
01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:41,970
and I open the door, and I'm like, wow,
what is that?
1022
01:06:42,270 --> 01:06:47,690
And there's four screens on top and four
screens on bottom. Wow, that looks like
1023
01:06:47,690 --> 01:06:48,690
my house.
1024
01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:50,250
Wait a minute.
1025
01:06:50,290 --> 01:06:51,590
That is my house.
1026
01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:57,220
He's got my whole house. House taped,
and then I hear him coming up the
1027
01:06:57,220 --> 01:06:58,360
corridor, right?
1028
01:06:58,980 --> 01:07:03,620
And right when he walks in the door,
boom, clicked it, slammed it.
1029
01:07:03,940 --> 01:07:05,040
I sit there like this.
1030
01:07:05,460 --> 01:07:10,860
He goes, are you okay? I go, he goes,
what's wrong with you? I go, take me
1031
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:14,080
now. He goes, what is wrong with you? I
go, take me home.
1032
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:21,080
There were things that he would say,
there's no way he would be able to say
1033
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,040
if he didn't have some kind of...
1034
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:27,580
camera or audio video in our home
because he wasn't there.
1035
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,520
That's when it got crazy.
1036
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:33,740
There were some times where, you know,
you could feel the tension between them
1037
01:07:33,740 --> 01:07:37,980
both. Being that young and being around
a lifestyle like that, it was really
1038
01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:39,980
busy, you know. Everything was just
really constant.
1039
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:47,720
Randy had it upon delusion of our
relationship would be the termination of
1040
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,560
every kind of contract.
1041
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,440
He knew what he was doing.
1042
01:07:54,860 --> 01:07:59,960
When they broke up, she went from George
back to Stephanie.
1043
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:01,960
Done.
1044
01:08:02,740 --> 01:08:04,740
Randy cut her out of every single thing.
1045
01:08:05,780 --> 01:08:10,580
We ended up leaving Florida, and she got
a place back in her home, Rockford, and
1046
01:08:10,580 --> 01:08:14,640
we got our own house there and stuff,
and Randy was really pissed off about
1047
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,279
that, you know, and he wanted her. He
just wanted her, you know, and she
1048
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:20,279
want to be a part of it.
1049
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:23,899
Nobody knew what I was going through.
1050
01:08:24,510 --> 01:08:28,029
And I've never really opened up and told
anybody. I don't want to tarnish
1051
01:08:28,029 --> 01:08:31,170
somebody's reputation who was such a
great person.
1052
01:08:31,410 --> 01:08:34,850
The things that were bad were very bad.
1053
01:08:35,410 --> 01:08:37,189
But the things that were good were very
good.
1054
01:08:41,210 --> 01:08:46,390
Miss Elizabeth was very pristine, was
always on this extra pristine pedestal.
1055
01:08:47,010 --> 01:08:52,430
I think she may have jumped out of
Randy's frying pan into a hotter
1056
01:08:52,430 --> 01:08:53,430
to speak.
1057
01:08:53,770 --> 01:08:58,490
I think the ongoing scuttlebutt amongst
the boys was, this is not going to end
1058
01:08:58,490 --> 01:09:00,790
well. We definitely did not put the
brakes on.
1059
01:09:01,170 --> 01:09:02,970
Might have been a good idea, but we
didn't.
1060
01:09:03,290 --> 01:09:04,729
In retrospect, of course.
1061
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:06,430
In hindsight.
1062
01:09:11,870 --> 01:09:18,770
Because she was so deep into
1063
01:09:18,770 --> 01:09:20,710
this relationship, she was...
1064
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,180
around us less and less. She was a
little more isolated.
1065
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,300
We were concerned and we were worried
and we would always reach out to her and
1066
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:32,340
see what we could do to help her, but it
just wasn't working.
1067
01:09:34,220 --> 01:09:36,680
I was surprised she was running with
Lex.
1068
01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:40,200
Lex was running real hard, so were some
of his friends at the time.
1069
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,700
And when I saw her with Lex, I told Eric
Bischoff we'll be reading about her in
1070
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:45,700
about two years.
1071
01:09:56,750 --> 01:10:00,190
Let me just tell you that right now, by
you or anybody else.
1072
01:10:00,470 --> 01:10:03,690
You know, if he wants to fire the first
shot, that's fine, because I'll fire the
1073
01:10:03,690 --> 01:10:04,850
last shot and machine gun the dial.
1074
01:10:05,150 --> 01:10:07,230
You know, the sad part is about this
whole thing.
1075
01:10:07,450 --> 01:10:11,610
I'm supposedly the enemy, and I'm this
no -good son of a bitch. Randy and Hulk
1076
01:10:11,610 --> 01:10:16,150
had a dysfunctional relationship, much
like many marriages that I've witnessed
1077
01:10:16,150 --> 01:10:20,990
over the years, where a husband and a
wife kind of tend to fall in and out of
1078
01:10:20,990 --> 01:10:22,050
love with each other.
1079
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:26,600
If all the moons line up just right, you
know, and everything is just great and
1080
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,940
it's a sunny day, you know, they might
be able to work something out. It was
1081
01:10:29,940 --> 01:10:33,820
that way with them. You know, they had
their wars, you know, in Florida.
1082
01:10:34,340 --> 01:10:37,560
Randy Savage got on another radio
station and talked crap about me. Say to
1083
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:38,560
and Hogan are having sex.
1084
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,460
That's fine, Randy. The girl you used to
have sex with now is doing pornos. Join
1085
01:10:42,460 --> 01:10:46,220
me tonight at Stormin's on the big
screen and I'll play the gorgeous George
1086
01:10:46,220 --> 01:10:50,240
tape. It was all apparently real. They
were always kind of hot at each other.
1087
01:10:50,490 --> 01:10:54,010
When he started on me, I started on him,
you know, and I had a bigger voice in
1088
01:10:54,010 --> 01:10:57,530
him because I had a buddy here in Tampa
that had a local radio show, and we just
1089
01:10:57,530 --> 01:10:59,470
blasted him every morning, drove him
crazy.
1090
01:10:59,990 --> 01:11:04,250
Making fun of Randy kind of gravitated
to my airwaves fairly instantaneously.
1091
01:11:04,250 --> 01:11:08,610
within a few months of Hogan and I
hanging out, we just started kind of
1092
01:11:08,610 --> 01:11:09,610
Randy.
1093
01:11:11,810 --> 01:11:12,810
Oh,
1094
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:17,750
it just drove Macho Man insane.
1095
01:11:18,780 --> 01:11:22,920
Macho Man would go to lawyers in town
and be like, yeah, there's this fat
1096
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,520
guy who's talking a bunch of crap about
me and I poop my pants.
1097
01:11:26,740 --> 01:11:29,540
And then the lawyers would say, well,
Randy, did you poop your pants? And
1098
01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:30,540
they're like, well, yeah, well.
1099
01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:34,960
It's the debut release from Macho Man,
Randy Savage.
1100
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:42,460
Listen to him throw down with such songs
as Let's Get It On and Be A Man.
1101
01:11:45,530 --> 01:11:50,050
At some point I look up and I see that
Macho Man Randy Savage is a rapper.
1102
01:11:50,530 --> 01:11:51,610
And he's not kidding.
1103
01:11:52,690 --> 01:11:54,890
I've been putting my music as a priority
one.
1104
01:11:55,490 --> 01:11:59,310
Everybody's writing a book and I'm not
writing a book. I want to express myself
1105
01:11:59,310 --> 01:12:00,188
with music.
1106
01:12:00,190 --> 01:12:04,950
I think the entire motive of his rap
album was to try to take a shot at
1107
01:12:06,450 --> 01:12:08,290
I just think.
1108
01:12:09,490 --> 01:12:12,050
I don't know. It didn't really gain any
traction anywhere.
1109
01:12:13,290 --> 01:12:16,410
It was just one of those things, get it
off his chest. It was part of that hate
1110
01:12:16,410 --> 01:12:17,410
that he had to get rid of.
1111
01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:23,570
Randy had a plan that Be a Man Hulk was
going to sell 50 million copies.
1112
01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:26,550
Instead, it only sold 50 ,000.
1113
01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:31,250
The critics said it defied physical
possibilities.
1114
01:12:31,770 --> 01:12:34,170
It sucked and blew at the same moment.
1115
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:38,650
I don't necessarily know that any of us
are really proud of it. I mean, I
1116
01:12:38,650 --> 01:12:41,150
wouldn't be a man if I...
1117
01:12:41,610 --> 01:12:45,470
didn't say, you know, to the camera that
I was sorry for the things that I said.
1118
01:12:48,430 --> 01:12:49,010
There was
1119
01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:56,290
nothing
1120
01:12:56,290 --> 01:12:58,410
untypical about the evening.
1121
01:12:58,650 --> 01:13:03,410
We were hanging out, watching movies,
having a few drinks and popping some
1122
01:13:03,410 --> 01:13:07,750
pills. Of course, you dozed off on the
couch for a minute. It was a late night,
1123
01:13:07,890 --> 01:13:10,770
so when I realized definitely there was
something wrong.
1124
01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:12,510
So I immediately called 911.
1125
01:13:13,150 --> 01:13:16,430
She's laying on the floor. I've tried to
pick her up. I've tried to... Okay,
1126
01:13:16,530 --> 01:13:20,850
what I want you to do, I want you to go
over and see if she's breathing. I can't
1127
01:13:20,850 --> 01:13:24,190
tell. Please send somebody here who
knows what they're doing.
1128
01:13:24,570 --> 01:13:29,590
And I got taken in from there, and they
found all the drugs in the house, and I
1129
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:31,210
was placed under arrest shortly
thereafter.
1130
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:33,190
One day, the phone rang.
1131
01:13:33,870 --> 01:13:35,230
Liz is gone.
1132
01:13:35,490 --> 01:13:39,690
Pro wrestler Lex Luger is under arrest
tonight, and his girlfriend is dead.
1133
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:44,350
This all happened today. She just had so
much to offer.
1134
01:13:44,930 --> 01:13:50,530
Both Lex and Elizabeth did what addicts
often do, which is hide it. By the time
1135
01:13:50,530 --> 01:13:54,270
it became obvious to those of us who
would have liked to have known, it was
1136
01:13:54,270 --> 01:13:56,490
late. They were already pretty far gone.
1137
01:13:56,850 --> 01:14:01,970
She was a beautiful, wonderful, gorgeous
woman who had no clue how...
1138
01:14:02,380 --> 01:14:03,920
gifted she actually was.
1139
01:14:05,860 --> 01:14:10,000
Absolutely. I had a role and definitely
a profoundly negative influence on
1140
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,480
somebody who asked, did you murder her?
No, I didn't force her to do drugs or
1141
01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:14,480
take pills.
1142
01:14:14,740 --> 01:14:19,080
But was I a negative influence for time
that led to that happening?
1143
01:14:19,460 --> 01:14:20,460
Definitely.
1144
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,960
If I could change that and go back in
time, boy, I would,
1145
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:27,720
but I can't.
1146
01:14:29,610 --> 01:14:34,630
I think the end for Elizabeth is one of
the saddest things that's ever happened
1147
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:35,349
in wrestling.
1148
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:37,670
She wasn't supposed to go that way.
1149
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:39,710
Like, she wasn't a wrestler.
1150
01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:45,990
She didn't abuse her body that we knew
of, you know? Like, it's just, it's
1151
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:46,990
heartbreaking.
1152
01:14:48,730 --> 01:14:52,190
I never said a word about it. I said,
I'm very sorry for Elizabeth.
1153
01:14:52,530 --> 01:14:55,730
Thank you. I didn't pick his scabs.
1154
01:14:56,390 --> 01:15:01,430
I spoke when spoken to, and if I saw a
mud puddle, I didn't splash him with it.
1155
01:15:01,510 --> 01:15:06,130
We loved each other, but we didn't talk
about everything unless he brought it
1156
01:15:06,130 --> 01:15:12,870
up. I know that he had a lot of fond
respect for Lex Luger, and I don't think
1157
01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:15,970
he held any animosity toward him.
1158
01:15:16,210 --> 01:15:18,530
At all? Really? I gave my answer.
1159
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,640
Really feel real bad for her and her
family.
1160
01:15:22,020 --> 01:15:26,560
And a situation where we hadn't seen
each other in about maybe five, six
1161
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,060
But, you know, we had closure and we
said hello and everything was all good.
1162
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:31,980
But I feel bad for her family.
1163
01:15:35,980 --> 01:15:37,300
It just sort of ended.
1164
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,020
And Randy Savage seemed to just sort of
fade away from wrestling.
1165
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:47,440
He seemed to kind of go peacefully into
the night in a way that most wrestlers
1166
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:48,740
are incapable of doing.
1167
01:15:49,150 --> 01:15:52,490
In my whole life, it's because I want to
do something rather than having to do
1168
01:15:52,490 --> 01:15:56,970
it. You know, so I've been a really good
businessman as far as my personal
1169
01:15:56,970 --> 01:15:58,310
finances have gone.
1170
01:15:58,570 --> 01:16:03,370
From what I heard, he was doing well. He
was happy. A lot of the guys leave this
1171
01:16:03,370 --> 01:16:06,390
business and they can't get it out of
their system, can't get it out of their
1172
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:10,250
blood. But Randy seemed to have done
that. And if you remember, I mean, he
1173
01:16:10,250 --> 01:16:15,250
one of the first guys that got a decent
part in a major, major motion picture.
1174
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,020
Take the chain off. Hey, freak show.
1175
01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:22,080
You're going nowhere.
1176
01:16:23,300 --> 01:16:25,200
I got you for three minutes.
1177
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,900
Three minutes of peak time.
1178
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:36,300
I got this little switch inside my brain
when you
1179
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:40,500
trip that light fantastic and it's show
time and you hear that roar from the
1180
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:43,380
crowd. You know what I mean? And you get
those chill moves all the way up the
1181
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:44,380
nose of dudes.
1182
01:16:45,790 --> 01:16:49,290
then it's not a problem at all. In fact,
it's pretty easy for me to get up for
1183
01:16:49,290 --> 01:16:54,350
something like that because it's either
inside you or it's not. And I say that
1184
01:16:54,350 --> 01:16:57,850
when it stops getting to be fun for
somebody, they need to get out.
1185
01:16:58,090 --> 01:17:00,850
When Randy Savage was done with people,
he moved on.
1186
01:17:01,090 --> 01:17:05,890
And Randy would cut it off and move on.
You didn't exist to him. So the same
1187
01:17:05,890 --> 01:17:08,830
thing with his personal life, same thing
with his business.
1188
01:17:09,070 --> 01:17:10,290
It was time to move on.
1189
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:12,550
He moved on. Didn't look back.
1190
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,400
And the latter part of his life where he
went gray and he kind of naturally
1191
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:22,220
aged, I think that that might have been
when he finally dropped the Macho Man
1192
01:17:22,220 --> 01:17:26,400
persona and could be Randy Poffo. And I
think that that might have been a huge
1193
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,400
relief for him.
1194
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,760
There's arguably no more tiring
character to play than Macho Man. I
1195
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,120
from a physical voice standpoint.
1196
01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:36,440
You can't tell me there weren't times
when he was like, I just want to not
1197
01:17:36,440 --> 01:17:38,320
for three days because my throat hurts.
1198
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,160
Randy had...
1199
01:17:40,780 --> 01:17:43,200
reunited with his high school
sweetheart.
1200
01:17:43,420 --> 01:17:45,440
To me, it was like Randy had found
peace.
1201
01:17:51,820 --> 01:17:55,560
I was at a heart doctor. I look up, and
there he is, and he looks great.
1202
01:17:56,220 --> 01:17:59,000
He's about 240 pounds. He's got his
weight back.
1203
01:17:59,660 --> 01:18:03,140
He's smiling. He's happy. It's, hey,
Mach, what's up, man? I love you. I miss
1204
01:18:03,140 --> 01:18:04,500
you. I love you, too, brother.
1205
01:18:04,990 --> 01:18:07,830
I said, damn, you have your wedding ring
on. He goes, oh, yeah, I got remarried.
1206
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:11,690
I was so happy. It looked so great. You
could see the glow coming off him. He
1207
01:18:11,690 --> 01:18:13,970
was at peace, and he was himself, and he
was happy.
1208
01:18:14,190 --> 01:18:18,510
It kind of, like, made my life to see
how happy he was, and he forgave me for
1209
01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:19,510
whatever I did.
1210
01:18:20,410 --> 01:18:25,290
I remember my dad telling us about Randy
having met, you know, back in the 70s,
1211
01:18:25,290 --> 01:18:29,030
a woman named Lynn Payne, and he had
this relationship with her before he
1212
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:30,030
met Miss Elizabeth.
1213
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:37,180
In 1975, Randy had left baseball and he
and Lynn had broken up. So it caused
1214
01:18:37,180 --> 01:18:40,020
Randy to leave Florida and get into
professional wrestling.
1215
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:47,300
Randy had told me that Lynn was always
the love of his life.
1216
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:53,160
They were sweethearts early on. And
then, of course, they went their own
1217
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,600
and they found their way back to each
other.
1218
01:18:57,460 --> 01:18:58,860
And boom.
1219
01:19:00,170 --> 01:19:02,170
The stars never shone so bright.
1220
01:19:03,290 --> 01:19:07,770
They get married on Lido Beach where
they had met 36 years before.
1221
01:19:10,110 --> 01:19:12,990
Just tell him that he was then.
1222
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:18,710
He was still macho, but the pace was
much different.
1223
01:19:19,170 --> 01:19:23,410
You could see that Randy had kind of
went full circle.
1224
01:19:25,090 --> 01:19:27,610
So many of these guys were so tormented.
1225
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:29,490
Then you hear that they died.
1226
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,980
It's like the life of a kamikaze pilot.
1227
01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:36,720
We used to know Randy got to touch down
back on the carrier for a while.
1228
01:19:38,620 --> 01:19:44,580
It was at the point of relaxing and
enjoying his life with the woman that he
1229
01:19:44,580 --> 01:19:45,580
supposed to be with.
1230
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,740
So he's just ready to just, ah.
1231
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,560
And he told me that, I've got my dogs,
I've got my house.
1232
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,500
You know, I'm there.
1233
01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:56,700
Randy?
1234
01:19:57,480 --> 01:20:00,720
Getting back this high school sweetheart
who hadn't been around the wrestling
1235
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:05,520
business ever. She wasn't jaded, you
know. And I think when he unplugged from
1236
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,160
this crazy business, he fell back in a
really beautiful place. It was probably
1237
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,340
before he ever wrestled. You young
punks, they got nothing on the macho man
1238
01:20:14,340 --> 01:20:17,360
Randy Savage and my generation.
1239
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:22,800
Randy Savage, at the end of his life,
left wrestling in a way that I really
1240
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,920
respected and I liked.
1241
01:20:25,420 --> 01:20:28,300
Because he walked away from it. He
pulled a lot out of WWE.
1242
01:20:28,860 --> 01:20:30,220
Made a ton of money.
1243
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:31,900
Had a hell of a ride.
1244
01:20:32,740 --> 01:20:34,320
Circumstances being what they are, man.
1245
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:36,660
A wonderful, wonderful life.
1246
01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:42,480
They were coming back from being at the
store.
1247
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,640
Randy was driving his Jeep. He said, I'm
not really feeling that well.
1248
01:20:47,860 --> 01:20:50,340
I think I'd like to go home.
1249
01:20:51,150 --> 01:20:57,110
And he started to swerve out of his
lane, and he
1250
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:58,830
pressed the gas.
1251
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:09,770
Lynn had to steer. The Jeep was going to
crash into other vehicles, oncoming
1252
01:21:09,770 --> 01:21:16,550
vehicles, and cause all kinds of other
fatalities. So she steered the
1253
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:18,670
Jeep into a tree to stop it.
1254
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,040
And Randy was pronounced dead right
there on the scene.
1255
01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:28,500
Some sad news to report this morning.
Pro wrestling icon Randy Macho Man
1256
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:30,640
died Friday in a car crash in Florida.
1257
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:37,620
I get a message from Largo Medical and
my brother and his wife were in a car
1258
01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:38,620
wreck.
1259
01:21:38,730 --> 01:21:43,290
So I called up, and that's when they put
me on the phone with Lynn, and she
1260
01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:44,830
explained to me what happened.
1261
01:21:45,070 --> 01:21:48,870
Police say Savage lost control of his
Jeep Wrangler about 9 .30 this morning.
1262
01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:50,970
His wife suffered minor injuries.
1263
01:21:51,230 --> 01:21:54,170
Randy Macho Man Savage was 58.
1264
01:21:56,590 --> 01:22:00,510
My thought immediately went to, I wish I
would have shared some more moments
1265
01:22:00,510 --> 01:22:01,510
with Randy.
1266
01:22:01,790 --> 01:22:05,270
Not too much of in -the -ring stuff, but
just...
1267
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:09,060
going out and having a lunch or
something, you know, to the other side
1268
01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:10,060
Savage.
1269
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:16,500
If I never would have been able to meet
with Randy one last time before he
1270
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:21,100
passed away, it would have probably been
something that would have haunted me.
1271
01:22:21,940 --> 01:22:28,440
I don't think I could have really
rationalized it if I never got across
1272
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:29,440
him again.
1273
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:33,460
He had a heart attack while driving, and
that's a crazy way to die, but it's
1274
01:22:33,460 --> 01:22:35,360
also a very macho man way to die.
1275
01:22:35,660 --> 01:22:39,940
You take a Jeep and a heart attack into
a tree. You're like, dude, what's up?
1276
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,120
You kind of wonder if he negotiated that
death.
1277
01:22:42,890 --> 01:22:48,410
He's like, what if the heart stops and
the Jeep pops over the highway? Yeah,
1278
01:22:48,450 --> 01:22:51,470
right under a tree. And everyone's like,
that's a tough way to go.
1279
01:22:51,710 --> 01:22:55,810
Very memorable, you know, as opposed to
just dying in a bed.
1280
01:22:56,330 --> 01:23:00,290
It's a very Macho Man way to die. I
mean, it's a sad death. I'm not taking
1281
01:23:00,290 --> 01:23:05,270
away from it. But I'm saying, as far as
spots go, that's a suplex off the top
1282
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:06,270
rope.
1283
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:11,790
For as many people, it can be like, oh,
it's not a real sport, you know. It's
1284
01:23:11,790 --> 01:23:14,030
just entertainment. By the way, I have a
big update for everyone.
1285
01:23:14,290 --> 01:23:16,290
All sports is just entertainment.
1286
01:23:17,230 --> 01:23:23,170
The value that these athletes have is
just as great in culture as a
1287
01:23:23,170 --> 01:23:26,450
athlete. In fact, with ones like Randy
Savage, they're greater.
1288
01:23:26,890 --> 01:23:32,710
He gave us more than physical
entertainment. He gave us himself as a
1289
01:23:34,810 --> 01:23:36,130
Snap into a Slim Jim.
1290
01:23:36,350 --> 01:23:37,350
Ooh, yeah.
1291
01:23:37,820 --> 01:23:43,980
Being in Spider -Man. I hope all of
those things, these cultural moments,
1292
01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:47,900
up to something where he knew, like, I
was a big deal. I was meaningful.
1293
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,960
It's crazy because there are some people
whose run as a professional wrestler is
1294
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,580
amazing because it lasts 20 years.
1295
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,500
Randy Savage, his run was really seven
years.
1296
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,640
But it's one of the greatest seven -year
runs of all time.
1297
01:24:04,180 --> 01:24:06,300
History beckons the macho man.
1298
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:13,070
He was different. He wasn't like
everybody else. The perfect way to
1299
01:24:13,070 --> 01:24:14,170
him, he was an enigma.
1300
01:24:18,910 --> 01:24:25,870
Like watching an artist paint, he
1301
01:24:25,870 --> 01:24:27,050
could take you on that roller coaster.
1302
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:32,690
He had psychology, he had athleticism,
and he could tell a story. That was him
1303
01:24:32,690 --> 01:24:33,690
being that painter.
1304
01:24:41,019 --> 01:24:47,500
A whole generation, probably a few
generations, have a piece of him in
1305
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:49,820
heart, in their mind, in their memories.
1306
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:58,140
Randy affected a lot of people all over
the world.
1307
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,180
You conjure up warm feelings thinking
about Randy.
1308
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:07,460
He was very intense and wanted to give
his all. And I still respect someone
1309
01:25:07,460 --> 01:25:08,460
that.
1310
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:13,060
You've got to clip by a tie and I'll
tell the people that if you don't shut
1311
01:25:13,060 --> 01:25:14,060
and sit down.
1312
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:20,540
Randy was the real deal. He loved this
business. He gave his heart and his soul
1313
01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:21,860
and everything to this business.
1314
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:27,140
And there'll never be another like him.
Very few guys have this in their blood
1315
01:25:27,140 --> 01:25:29,020
and live it. And Randy was one of them.
1316
01:25:32,430 --> 01:25:35,090
on the planet and you don't want none of
this.
1317
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:38,950
How much longer do you think that you're
going to keep this up? I'm tapering
1318
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:42,310
down. I'll probably go about 248 more
years and then I'll retire for a year
1319
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:43,610
come back and win the world title again.
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