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Over the last five years, I've been
visiting countries with a bad reputation
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see if the preconceptions... Sorry to
interrupt. Can you just avoid saying bad
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reputation because it implies that the
countries are bad and from a position of
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white privilege, it just doesn't look
that great.
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Yeah, but they do have like a bad
reputation. I mean, that's the point.
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Can you avoid it?
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Also, I'm not white. I know.
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And we support that decision.
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I mean, it's not a decision, but OK.
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Over the last five years, I've been
visiting countries which some people
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associate with somewhat negative
preconceptions. Good.
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To see if that reputation is justified.
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That's good shit. Or if we should be
giving them a second chance.
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Offside. This time, I'm going above and
beyond.
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Travelling through the heart of Africa
on a month -long journey.
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Ron, can you not say heart of Africa? It
sounds like the heart of darkness.
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Okay, but that was in Africa.
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Yes, but it might trigger some people.
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OK, how about former British colonies?
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That would trigger other people.
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OK. Travelling through Africa on one
long epic journey.
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Is Uganda all about Idi Amin?
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Wow, this is genuinely amazing.
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Is Rwanda more than the horrors of the
genital?
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Oh, my God, I can't believe this. Is
Madagascar full of animated talking
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and singing lemurs?
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Can we just say all species of lemurs,
just in case we offend any lemurs?
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The Misadventures of Romesh Ranganathan.
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I began my odyssey in Kampala, capital
of Uganda, a landlocked country of some
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45 million people.
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once described by Winston Churchill as
the Pearl of Africa.
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Before coming here, I sort of felt like
I got sort of acclimatised to African
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cities and how busy and hectic they are,
but this is a level above. I mean, it's
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proper mad.
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Can you sort of explain how the traffic
works?
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Basically, the system is whoever's got
the sharpest elbows gets in first.
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It could do, if I'm being honest with
you, I'm not a city planner, a couple of
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roundabouts maybe.
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And what's going on there? Well, there's
been a collision between a motorbike
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and a bicycle containing some sort of
unspecified vegetable, and now they're
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having an argument about it.
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I'll be honest with you, I feel like
filming it is only going to aggravate
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situation, but listen, it's your choice.
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So what are your preconceptions of
Uganda?
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When I think of Uganda, I think of Idi
Amin, because we were so invested in
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story, it's such a big thing, he was
such a big character, what he did.
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And then, you know, you know very little
about the country since then.
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And so that is kind of what you come
into this thinking about and maybe the
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ongoing legacy of that.
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But then the other thing is, between us
deciding to come here and us actually
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arriving, Uganda has just passed a load
of essentially anti -gay laws and
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legislation.
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So, you know, that's something that I'm
hoping to kind of chew on during my time
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here.
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My co -host Alex has told me that I'm
going to meet her somewhere here because
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think she thinks that one of my things
I'd like to do here is have a panic
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attack.
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I'm sort of this far away from just
going down there and screaming Alex at
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top of my lungs and seeing if she
responds.
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Alex!
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Alex!
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Oh, no, it's different Alex.
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I'm looking for Alex.
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You haven't seen her, have you?
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Alex? Alex. Yeah.
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I don't know Alex. OK, all right, no
worries, man. Thank you.
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I eventually located Alex, a 32 -year
-old born and raised in Kampala.
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In the middle of a bus station.
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I mean, she wasn't raised in a bus
station.
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That's just where I caught up with her.
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Roman! Alex, how are you? Fine, thank
you.
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Oh, OK, let's do it. Great, let's do it.
I didn't know whether to do that or
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not. How are you? No, it's a Ugandan
thing. Oh, is it? You meet people and
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give them a hug. Oh, OK. Welcome,
welcome to Uganda.
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I've only been here a short time. Yes.
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It's been quite... I feel quite anxious.
Why?
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Well, because I reckon I've had a near
-death experience 27 times since I've
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arrived.
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So... But in a good way, like everyone's
friendly as they do it. Yeah, everybody
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knows you're there, don't worry.
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Do they? They won't knock you. Okay,
because they don't make any eye contact,
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they don't look like they know I'm
there. No, subconsciously I think they
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you're there. Okay, you promise? I
promise.
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That's why my life is now in your hands.
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I'm just going to walk around not
looking.
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No, please do look. Oh, do look, okay.
Yes, please do look, because you never
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know what happens, right?
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So, the only thing I know about Uganda,
or as soon as you say Uganda to me, I
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think Idi Amin.
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Basically, I'm an open book. Yeah. I'm
ready to find out all about it. Yeah. So
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what's the best way? How are we going to
start it? To get here, I took a bike
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because driving here, I'd be late. So
bike's the quickest?
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Bike's the quickest. Okay.
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Not the most safe, but it's the
quickest. So it's quick but dangerous.
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That's my nickname at school.
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Alex told me we would spend a week
venturing around Uganda, experiencing
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staggering array of epic landscapes,
incredible wildlife, learning about its
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troubled past and addressing its modern
complexity. But we would start with a
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terrifying trip across town on a boda
boda, a sort of death -defying cross
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between a taxi ride and human pinball.
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Uganda's capital has ballooned from just
167 ,000 people when it became
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independent in 1962 to 1 .6 million
people today, most of them apparently
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on injuring me.
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I was eventually allowed off the bike to
take a stroll up the ancient Mengo
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Hill, once home to the royal family.
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So this region was ruled by the Uganda.
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Uganda. Uganda.
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Uganda kingdom is where the Uganda
people.
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Uganda people from the Uganda kingdom?
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Yes, sir. And so that's where Uganda got
its name. It was a mispronunciation.
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The British mispronounced it. Okay, I'm
originally... Yeah, you guys did, yeah.
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Us guys? Listen, I'm originally Sri
Lankan. Oh, right. Okay, so the British
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mispronounced it. But listen, I'm as
angry about it as you are.
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So... It was a mispronunciation. So hold
on, so somebody said this is Buganda,
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and then he went, you mean Uganda?
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Yes, because in Swahili they don't have
a boot.
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A bee.
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I'm actually a princess of Uganda.
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So when I say my name, people know.
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You're a princess?
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Yes, I am.
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So the king, I call him uncle.
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Are you joking? No, I'm not. You're a
princess? I'm showing you our lovely
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Does that mean, does your lifestyle have
to be more traditional than it
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otherwise would have been?
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Yes, they expect it. Really?
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Luckily, they don't pick our partners
anymore. So they used to pick your
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partners? Yes.
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tell people what to do like will you
always get whatever table you want no no
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no no so i would say that the because my
father is not the king right i am
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royalty but his children would get the
special treatment live in the palace and
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things like that do you get anything
like a discount or anything at all no
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there's quite a number of princesses
okay how many are we talking Many. More
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than I can count. Like, more than you
can count? More than I can count. How
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can you count? That sort of determines
how big a number that is. If you can
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count to nine... I guess how many in
Uganda, that's a lot. OK.
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Like a thousand?
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More than a thousand. More than a
thousand. There's more than a thousand
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princesses.
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Alex explained that although the royal
family's role is now largely ceremonial,
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the Bugandan kings have ruled here since
the early 14th century.
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This is the Mango Palace.
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Those lions at the top, just like the
lion is the king of the jungle, the
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king is the most revered.
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After independence, Buganda retained
semi -autonomous status, but all that
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changed in 1966 when the president sent
the Ugandan army, led by young Idi Amin,
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To storm the hill.
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So the troops ran up this hill and they
went into the palace after the king. To
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get rid of the king. To get rid of the
king. So the troops ran into the palace
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and the king managed to escape and jump
over the wall and get a taxi and went to
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London.
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He got a taxi?
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He did do, yes.
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He jumped over the wall. So the troops
are coming up the hill.
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He's in deep trouble.
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Yes. I've got to get out of here. He
jumps over the back wall, then... Taxi.
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London. And then the driver goes, that's
going to cost loads.
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I think so. And I bet you had to pay
double time.
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Yes, he must have.
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And then what happened to him in London?
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He stayed there three years and
unfortunately died in exile.
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Okay, the damming endowment of London.
Right, but the kingdom's still here.
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it looks beautiful.
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Yes, it does.
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The Mengo Palace.
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The next day, we drove out of Kampala,
heading out to the River Nile for what
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was promised to be a day of action and
adventure on the water.
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Are you, like, are you a proud Ugandan?
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I love it. I tell you why. There's never
a dull moment.
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Yeah. I can guarantee it.
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Ugandan... Well, I saw that just from
that roundabout.
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Everything is turned into something
lovely.
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Which is general positive vibes.
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Yeah.
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So what exactly do you do?
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I'm a programme manager for a
consultancy company, education project,
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So is that quite...
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A prestigious job, then?
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It's a regular job, I think.
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Jobs that people deem prestigious.
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I like to be a doctor. It's a big deal
here.
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Yeah.
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When was the first time my mum wasn't
going to become a doctor?
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We had to have a sit -down chat.
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Oh!
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Can you explain, why didn't you want to
be a doctor?
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Well, first of all, I didn't want to.
Second of all, I wasn't clever enough.
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So I'd say to her, you know, I could
become a doctor, maybe one of those
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incompetent ones that's constantly
getting food for, like, malpractice or
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whatever. Is that what you want?
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We
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eventually
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arrived at Ginger, a few hours outside
Kampala.
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a once tiny town which has thrived off
the back of the spectacular whitewater
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rafting opportunities on offer along the
Nile.
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How are you feeling about this?
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Scared. Scared? I thought you said good.
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The one sort of consolation is we both
look cool.
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Hello. Hello.
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You good?
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I'm good.
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Alex decided to take us whitewater
rafting because it turns out, completely
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unbeknownst to me, that Uganda
apparently has some of the best
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rafting in the world.
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Big J is the leader.
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So when you get in this boat here,
you're going to sit like this.
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And I, myself, I'm going to be the back,
giving all the instructions, tell you
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what to do.
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Yes? Have you ever been injured?
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Myself? Yeah. Yeah, look at my teeth.
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That was from doing this?
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Yeah, because most of people...
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They get injured because of these.
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If you make them swung around, you're
going to hurt somebody.
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Hold on to your paddle. You hold on to
your paddle.
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OK. Let's jump in.
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You're joking.
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This is the part I cannot do.
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Come on, come in.
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Alex's big problem was that she didn't
trust the life jacket.
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I believe she thought she was just
wearing a jacket.
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You'll be fine.
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Can I hold you? Come over.
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Just slide, slide like that. Yeah,
perfect.
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Let her go on the boat. You fall in the
water, you're underwater for five
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seconds, then you come up, and then they
pull you on like a massive fish.
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You essentially, in order to survive,
have to act dead.
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That's the irony of it.
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OK.
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Everybody back on your seat. Get on your
position.
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When you have that kind of fear, you
know, she can go... If she's then going
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overcome that fear and do it, it's an
amazing thing. You can put some Adele on
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underneath or whatever and it's going to
be like a really cool moment.
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This one is deep enough, no rock.
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No rock.
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There's no way you're going to hit a
rock in case you fell out of the boat.
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It hadn't even occurred to me that
there'd be rocks.
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Don't say it, man.
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There's six grades or levels, if you
like, of rappers that you can go
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So level one is like very low grades,
like somebody fighting in a bathtub.
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Level two is
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two people fighting in a bathtub.
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Three is, I guess, like a large animal
fighting
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in a bathtub.
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Anyway, the point is that they get
stronger.
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Alex found the whole thing really nerve
-wracking. But despite all of that, fair
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play to her. She did two of the rapids
and she just, you know, she ducked out,
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like, for the second half of it. I
totally understand. I can't believe she
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the first two rapids.
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Turns out she made the best decision of
her life because the next one, a grade
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four, was insane.
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I felt like praying to God to send my
best wishes to my wife and children.
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Get down!
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Get up and paddle!
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Get up and paddle!
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Get up and paddle!
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He's saying paddle. There's no water
there.
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The wave's here.
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What do you want me to do? Paddle in
front of my face? And then, like, he's
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screaming.
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Paddle, paddle, paddle!
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Faster, faster, harder!
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Fucking hell!
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This feels like a fucking anxiety dream.
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I actually thought I was going to die.
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There is a thick.
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You never do a thick, basically.
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If you look down there, you see the
water splashing.
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No one go down this rapid.
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Never, ever, you never, ever do a thick.
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Unless, in the words of Big Jay, you
want to die.
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So I'll come back next year.
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Yeah, I think we've both learned a
little something.
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I've learned that Uganda's got great
whitewater rafting. You can have a great
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time. And Alex has learned to sort of
think about organising water -based
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activities if you can't swim.
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The next day, like explorers of old, we
journeyed upstream to find the source of
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this epic river.
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So this is the way to the source of the
Nile? Yeah.
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Because it looks like the way to Mahatma
Gandhi's statue meant home by a bank of
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rovers. I'm just saying.
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For a period in the mid -19th century,
the hunt for the origin of the world's
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longest river became a Victorian
obsession, making household names of
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who eventually pinpointed a spot here on
the edge of Lake Victoria as the
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beginning of the longest, most majestic
and most romantic...
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River on Earth.
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Is this the thoughts right now?
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Yeah.
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Mind ahead.
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Oh, yeah.
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Thank you.
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Well, this is exciting.
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Success. Oh, wow.
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So this is it.
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This is it. Doesn't look like the start
of anything, does it?
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You know what I mean? Yeah. You did
something in the middle.
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I mean, if you moved it 100 yards that
way, nobody would notice.
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You know what I thought?
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Honestly.
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When you hear about the source of a
river, it's like the top of a mountain
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something. We'd be by a melting glacier.
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The Nile does here.
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Feels quite corporate, doesn't it? How
do you feel about the beer sponsorship?
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They took advantage of the name.
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I think the river came first, didn't it?
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I've just got to say, what a magical
experience to come to the source of the
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Nile, brought to you by Nile Special in
association with Coca -Cola.
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All right, she's going to get gifts. I'm
going to buy a bead necklace or
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something. Yeah, the earrings are quite
cute. Yeah, I'll have to get my ears
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pierced. Do you reckon he does that as
well?
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Oh, this is Uganda. Anything is
possible.
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We doubled back on ourselves, heading
west across a country that's the size of
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the UK, but somehow felt at least ten
times bigger.
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The plan was to explore some of Uganda's
natural beauty.
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taking in crater lakes formed by ancient
volcanoes and its abundance of awe
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-inspiring wildlife.
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The mission that would involve,
unfortunately for Alex, more water.
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Alex explained that although it's long
since lived in the shadow of its more
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popular neighbour Kenya, tourists are
beginning to come back, drawn in by the
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world -class wildlife spotting on offer.
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After an epic eight -hour drive, we
entered Queen Elizabeth National Park,
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after Queen Elizabeth.
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Oh, wow, look at this.
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It's pretty cool. Well done.
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You keep saying well done like a
Ugandan. Do Ugandans say well done?
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Oh, extremely.
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Well done.
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I haven't done anything.
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Maybe I've just got more Ugandan in me
than I thought.
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Oh, my.
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Wow.
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The idea was to hike Shambura Gorge.
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Created millions of years ago by
volcanic activity, it's an amazing
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biodiversity.
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crammed into a 12 -mile section 100
metres deep and home to a supposed
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of monkeys.
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So the gorge is teeming with life,
right? There's lots of monkeys,
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kinds of birds. Uganda is known for that
kind of birds.
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It looks unbelievable.
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Yeah, I look forward to seeing it. I
think the ranger's going to tell us more
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about it.
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OK, I'm very excited.
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Hello, Ruth. Hello.
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Nice meeting you. Thank you, Alec. Ruth
is my name.
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Hello, Ramesh. Nice meeting you, Ramesh.
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We're about to hike through the gorge,
hopefully taking in the various types of
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wildlife that the gorge has to offer.
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We're going to gorge ourselves on flora
and fauna.
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I wish I hadn't said that.
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But anyway, that's what we're doing.
We're hiking through the gorge.
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Ramesh, are you OK there? I'm fine. I
don't like downhill, really, as a rule.
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But I'm fine.
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Ruth, what do you have the gun for?
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So how
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many chimpanzees are there here?
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What do you
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see, Ron?
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I thought they saw something, but it was
a tree.
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More facts about chimpanzees, that
chimpanzees eat meat.
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Do they? They do. And they do hunt other
monkeys.
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What?
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Yes.
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I cannot believe that.
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Hunting comes in at a certain period of
the year.
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And it is a planned arrangement that
today we won't have meat.
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So killing the monkey, they use these
big trees.
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They'll grab the monkey and hit his head
on the branch.
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So they are smart in a way that they do
not want that monkey to die a painful
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death.
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They will hit his head, he will lose his
senses, and then they will tear up.
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How is that not a painful death?
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Can you see anything, Ron?
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There's more space.
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Chimpanzees.
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So I prefer we walk back the same way we
came. Because the chimpanzees are
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inviting us.
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They're inviting us? They are letting us
know that we are going in the wrong
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direction.
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Apparently the chimpanzees, we've said
they're communicating to
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let us know we're going the wrong way.
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Fucking hell.
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I've got a bump now.
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What are you doing?
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The chimps.
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The chimps? Yeah.
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Ruth thinks that she's figured out
roughly where the chimpanzees are.
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But, um, they're very clever.
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So it's not beyond the realms of
possibility that they just thought,
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lead these three twats on a merry chimp
chase?
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Where are you heading on to now?
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I guess it'll be through some more trees
and then on to the Crater Lake, which
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has an incredible amount of pressure on
it, I would say.
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If I turn up at the Crater Lake and
Kendrick Lamar's not doing a gig,
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I'll be absolutely furious.
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Or what would be an amazing end to this
is we get to the Crater Lake and all the
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animals from here are waiting there.
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I'm going to just go, surprise!
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Eventually, we emerged from the gorge
and hobbled towards the twin lakes of
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Kaima and Kamweru.
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Oh, my God.
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Wow.
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They were formed by a volcanic eruption
at some point between 400 and 12 ,000
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years ago, depending on who you believe.
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This is the escapement, the western wall
of the Rift Valley.
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This is incredible.
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Is it worth it now?
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Yeah, this is actually.
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It's absolutely amazing.
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Ruth, thank you so much for looking
after us today. Please, it has been a
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pleasure. It's genuinely stunning.
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We headed further north, careering
across the equator and heading deeper
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rural Uganda.
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Alex explained that the country is still
highly religious.
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81 % of the Christian population attend
church every week, and society is built
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on a bedrock of highly traditional,
conservative faith.
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Where do you sit in the scale of...
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your generation of people. Are you quite
more traditional than the average
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person of your age or less or about the
same, would you say?
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I think I'm a bit more traditional.
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Right.
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But again, people from the royal family
were expected to behave in a way you...
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to protect... protect its norms, protect
its values. Yeah. A lot.
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I'm old school.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So do you look at, like, the fight in
the UK and feel like it's lost its way a
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little bit then?
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Is that kind of...? Yeah. Yeah. I think
so.
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In terms of what?
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Because I think, you know, a lot of
people in the UK would agree with you,
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I mean, what's your kind of take on it?
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OK, from what we see on social media and
we see that there's a
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lot more acceptance for people acting on
how they feel.
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Right. Which, for us, your feelings are
valid, but they're not the most
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important thing.
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Okay. So society has rules, so to say,
and we abide by them.
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Okay. So what you mean by that is... Men
and men.
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Men and men and women and women. Women
and women.
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You don't overcomplicate it. It's
basics.
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Just the basics.
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If you... Would you ever be in a
relationship where the man was the one
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stayed home and looked after the
children and you were the one that went
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worked? No. No?
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No. I think that he would not be happy.
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Okay. With me being the one that's
bringing the money home.
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I don't think he would. And I would not
be happy.
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I mean, speaking personally, I'd be
delighted.
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You would?
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I think so.
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Well, why are you not doing it now?
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Because my wife is terrible at comedy.
451
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:15,110
Oh, don't.
452
00:27:21,490 --> 00:27:24,360
That evening at the hotel, We had a
drink at the bar.
453
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,700
As amazing as Uganda had been so far, I
was aware that there was an elephant in
454
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:30,539
the room.
455
00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:32,920
Uganda's new so -called anti -gay laws.
456
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,000
The legislation, which passed a few
weeks before I arrived, outlaws
457
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,480
homosexuality and punishes anybody
promoting it with a prison sentence of
458
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,780
20 years, or potentially even the death
penalty.
459
00:27:46,420 --> 00:27:50,140
The laws have been described as some of
the harshest of their kind anywhere on
460
00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:51,140
the planet.
461
00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:53,860
But I wanted to find out what the
Ugandan perspective was.
462
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:02,220
So, between us deciding to come to
Uganda and make this show,
463
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:06,740
and us arriving in Uganda to make this
show, a new set of laws and legislation
464
00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:07,740
were put in place.
465
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:12,800
So I guess my first question would be,
how popular is that?
466
00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:15,640
I think it represents what we believe as
a people.
467
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:17,020
OK.
468
00:28:17,420 --> 00:28:20,360
That women marry men.
469
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,360
That's it.
470
00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:23,580
There's no in -between.
471
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,320
It comes from a religious thing, right?
And a cultural thing.
472
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:33,120
And actually, people were happy when the
president signed the bill.
473
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:34,580
I was for it.
474
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,700
For full clarity, I'm coming from a
country that has a completely different
475
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:44,840
attitude to that. And also, my own
personal views are different. I'm giving
476
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,460
idea of what my bias is in this. What is
your bias, if I may ask?
477
00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:53,880
My belief is that it's no more a choice
to be homosexual than it is to be a
478
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,180
choice to be heterosexual.
479
00:28:55,580 --> 00:29:02,580
So you're saying, in my opinion, I want
to make it illegal for you to be
480
00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:03,580
who you are.
481
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,160
It's the same thing as saying to me,
we're going to make it illegal to be
482
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Do you know what I mean?
483
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,840
That's kind of how I see it.
484
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,300
How do you feel about the idea that...
485
00:29:16,510 --> 00:29:19,430
They have no choice about who they are.
I think you do.
486
00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:20,750
You think so? Yes, please.
487
00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:24,550
So you think, in your opinion, every gay
person has chosen to be gay?
488
00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:27,830
I mean, how else are they gay?
489
00:29:28,270 --> 00:29:29,930
Well, I didn't choose to be
heterosexual.
490
00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:31,950
I am heterosexual by nature.
491
00:29:32,190 --> 00:29:34,730
Yeah. I don't believe there's any
difference for homosexual people.
492
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:36,750
I think they're a bit different.
493
00:29:37,330 --> 00:29:39,570
Sex is not something that you tell
children.
494
00:29:39,790 --> 00:29:40,970
It's not something that's open.
495
00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:42,850
We don't do that.
496
00:29:43,090 --> 00:29:45,850
We had incidents where books were taken
to schools.
497
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,720
Right. In the library.
498
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,440
And that caused an outrage.
499
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,500
And so the Ministry of Education said,
we won't be having this in the school.
500
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,900
So that's what happened.
501
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,480
The first thing was to protect children.
Okay.
502
00:29:57,860 --> 00:29:59,360
Protect children from what, though?
503
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:01,720
From that kind of content.
504
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,380
Let's assume that homosexuality is a
choice.
505
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:07,540
What's wrong with letting people make
that choice?
506
00:30:08,020 --> 00:30:13,080
Do we allow people to make all choices?
They just make the choices they feel?
507
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Well, I mean, within limit.
508
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Exactly. This is a limit.
509
00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:21,040
We have guardrails in everything.
510
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,920
I think it's okay.
511
00:30:23,460 --> 00:30:30,220
No offense, but I feel like in the West,
your guardrails are very wide
512
00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:31,640
in the UK.
513
00:30:32,020 --> 00:30:36,220
They are told it's normal, right? In
Uganda, they will be told it's not
514
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:38,540
That's the difference.
515
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,060
So there must be lots of people in
homosexual relationships.
516
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,610
Lots? Yeah, I would say lots.
517
00:30:48,030 --> 00:30:51,810
I have never in my life met a homosexual
couple.
518
00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:53,530
I've never met it.
519
00:30:53,750 --> 00:31:00,610
Never ever? Never. Okay. I think that if
you became really close
520
00:31:00,610 --> 00:31:04,590
friends with somebody and then you later
on discovered that they were homosexual
521
00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:09,990
and then this law was passed, I think
you'd have a different attitude to it.
522
00:31:10,290 --> 00:31:11,290
I don't think so.
523
00:31:11,950 --> 00:31:14,890
If you like... I would, as a person, I
would love them.
524
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:18,590
I still don't agree with what they're
doing, but I love them. Okay, but then
525
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:21,710
would you support them going to prison
for 20 years for being who they are?
526
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:24,110
Is that who they are?
527
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:25,910
That is who they are.
528
00:31:26,190 --> 00:31:27,390
Oh, that's who they've chosen to be.
529
00:31:27,610 --> 00:31:32,310
I think the fundamental difference
between what my viewpoint is and what
530
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:35,070
viewpoint is and where we're never going
to meet, regardless of what we think
531
00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:39,830
about the treatment of this, is that I
don't believe it's a choice and you do.
532
00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:41,110
Yes.
533
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:43,270
And that is kind of the crux of the
problem.
534
00:31:45,550 --> 00:31:50,610
Yes. Alex's insistence that this law has
widespread support does seem to be
535
00:31:50,610 --> 00:31:51,449
broadly true.
536
00:31:51,450 --> 00:31:56,710
Only one MP voted against it in
Parliament, with 371 in favour.
537
00:31:57,270 --> 00:32:04,270
I put a question that the anti
-homosexuality bill 2023 be read the
538
00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:08,510
time and do pass those in favour stand
to a contrary name.
539
00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:11,710
The ayes have it.
540
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,840
I got that the country is religious and
that that would have shaped opinions,
541
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,440
but clearly some Ugandans feel
otherwise.
542
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:23,660
Although it was hard to find anyone able
to speak openly on the subject, I did
543
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:28,140
manage to contact an activist from
Uganda's LGBTQ community to try and
544
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:30,720
understand what life is like for gay
people in modern Uganda.
545
00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:34,040
Her voice has been distorted to protect
her identity.
546
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,980
Hello there, it's Romesh here.
547
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,740
So how are you feeling at the moment
with everything that's going on, the new
548
00:32:41,740 --> 00:32:42,740
laws that have passed?
549
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,740
Before this bill was passed, what was
life like for the gay community in
550
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:39,780
So you're saying they've basically
linked homosexuality with child abuse.
551
00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:41,540
Do people believe this?
552
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,040
For lesbians, there's also another
component of sexual violence that they
553
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,560
because corrective rape is very common.
554
00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:06,780
Right. So many times groups of men will
rape a lesbian couple or a lesbian woman
555
00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:11,159
because they're assuming you like other
women because you don't know what it
556
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:12,400
feels like to be with a man.
557
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,580
And right now, to be honest, that is my
biggest fear at this moment.
558
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,840
A lot of rape is going to happen to us.
559
00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:20,940
It sounds so awful.
560
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:28,179
How do you feel about people visiting
Uganda with this way of life in place,
561
00:34:28,219 --> 00:34:31,260
with this kind of thing going on? I
mean, how do you feel about that whole
562
00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:32,260
thing?
563
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:42,320
You know,
564
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,560
the honest truth is I find it incredibly
upsetting.
565
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:56,130
I just, my heart goes out to people I
can't even imagine.
566
00:34:56,630 --> 00:35:02,010
If you are a member of the gay community
or a supporter of the gay community,
567
00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:05,290
your life here is incredibly
challenging.
568
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:10,070
People feel empowered to be homophobic
because they're backed up by law.
569
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:12,110
It's horrible. It's disgusting.
570
00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:17,490
I mean, when I came to the country, I
was hoping that...
571
00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:20,630
I could somehow kind of justify what's
happened with these new laws and that
572
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:24,150
they hadn't been supported and this is
something that people are up in arms
573
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:28,230
about. But having spoken to Alex, who I
think is fairly typical of the views in
574
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:34,810
this country, I think not only is it a
well -supported law, I think it's a
575
00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:35,810
celebrated one.
576
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:39,590
I mean, the truth is that I really get
on with Alex. She's been an amazing
577
00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:45,130
She's been a really effusive and...
578
00:35:45,580 --> 00:35:47,660
energetic advocate for Uganda as a
country.
579
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,880
But the fact of the matter is we are
fundamentally opposed in our sets of
580
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,120
And it's not coming from a bad place
with her. It's coming from a place where
581
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,860
she feels family is important and she
wants it to be protected.
582
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:05,960
I also feel family is important and I
want it to be protected. But what our
583
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,720
views are, what families look like, are
completely different. And we'll never
584
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:09,720
agree on that.
585
00:36:09,940 --> 00:36:13,820
It's left me feeling like I'm not really
sure how I feel about Uganda.
586
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,120
You know, I've had nice experiences,
I've got on with Alex, but it's
587
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,200
I'm just going to have to ponder over
the next few days, I think.
588
00:36:48,020 --> 00:36:52,680
The next morning, we headed further into
the Ugandan countryside in the
589
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,140
direction of Murchison National Park to
experience more of rural Uganda.
590
00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:01,520
We popped along to the village and we
did like a... I would describe it as a
591
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,820
smorgasbord of village activities.
592
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:08,170
The first one was to meet up with a man
whose family has been responsible for
593
00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:11,670
providing the village with banana -based
beverages.
594
00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:13,750
Hello, sir. You are welcome.
595
00:37:14,010 --> 00:37:16,430
Thank you. Hello, how are you? I'm good.
I'm Ramesh.
596
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:18,070
I'm Mugabe Robert.
597
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:20,710
Nice to meet you. His name was Mugabe
Robert.
598
00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:23,070
I'll let you figure out who he's named
after.
599
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,510
It takes like 15 minutes.
600
00:37:28,030 --> 00:37:30,390
There are three stages to those
beverages.
601
00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:32,130
First is banana juice.
602
00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:34,750
When you distill that, you get yourself
banana beer.
603
00:37:35,090 --> 00:37:36,750
Distill that again, you get yourself
banana gin.
604
00:37:36,970 --> 00:37:38,270
No muscle, no juice.
605
00:37:38,650 --> 00:37:39,870
Oh, no muscle, no juice.
606
00:37:40,930 --> 00:37:43,910
So there's an art to it.
607
00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:46,850
Put your shoulder in it, like this, like
this.
608
00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:50,650
Absolute banana carnage.
609
00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:53,350
The way you make banana juice is you
squash some bananas.
610
00:37:54,130 --> 00:37:55,130
Oh!
611
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:57,410
Loads of muscle, loads of juice.
612
00:37:57,730 --> 00:37:58,730
And you add water to it.
613
00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:01,270
You then get banana leaf and use that to
make a banana filter.
614
00:38:01,730 --> 00:38:05,290
You pull the banana liquid through the
banana filter into a banana juice jar,
615
00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:07,690
and that, my friend, is banana juice.
616
00:38:08,410 --> 00:38:12,990
And I would describe that taste as a lot
like bananas with water. And then you
617
00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:17,070
distill that and it becomes banana beer.
Thank you, that'll do. Cheers, Mugabe
618
00:38:17,070 --> 00:38:19,050
Robert. For us here, we say bonga.
619
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:20,510
Bonga!
620
00:38:20,650 --> 00:38:21,650
Bonga. Bonga.
621
00:38:22,090 --> 00:38:23,470
Oh, you've already started? OK.
622
00:38:23,830 --> 00:38:26,810
And I'd describe that taste as a lot
like bananas with water and mud.
623
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:33,180
And then finally, that is distilled
again to make the banana gin. Bonga!
624
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,900
Then I'll describe that as bananas with
fire.
625
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:40,580
Woo!
626
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:47,260
You sort of get an initial banana -y
taste, and then you feel like, I would
627
00:38:47,260 --> 00:38:48,940
describe it as an intense chemical burn.
628
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:56,220
It felt like it undone all of the Yakult
I'd drunk in my life.
629
00:38:57,980 --> 00:38:59,900
There's literally nothing left inside
me.
630
00:39:00,340 --> 00:39:02,000
Take a sip, just.
631
00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:04,340
And sip.
632
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,060
Oh, I should have knocked it back like a
heathen, didn't I? Sorry.
633
00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:13,600
Do you want to make some juice?
634
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,920
No, it's fine, it's fine. I like it. I
like it uncut.
635
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,760
It killed not only bacteria, but
emotions and feelings.
636
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,440
I've not felt anything since.
637
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,000
Bonga! You've got a half measure there,
mate.
638
00:39:32,970 --> 00:39:33,970
That is good stuff, man.
639
00:39:34,210 --> 00:39:35,210
Congratulations.
640
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:37,890
I am battered. How many fingers?
641
00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:43,290
I couldn't tell you that even without
being drunk.
642
00:39:45,170 --> 00:39:46,170
Wow, okay.
643
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:47,670
That's enough.
644
00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:51,770
This is dangerous.
645
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:53,430
I was licked.
646
00:39:54,450 --> 00:39:55,850
I was banana split.
647
00:39:56,730 --> 00:40:00,390
I was absolutely hammered. And I was so
drunk.
648
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,260
that I thought, this can't be how I'm
going to feel going forward. This must
649
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:08,340
like an initial banana buzz, and then
I'm going to overcome it. But no, that
650
00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:13,320
how I felt for the rest of my day in the
village. It did not subside at all.
651
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,900
Hey, I'm Ramesh.
652
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,580
Anit. Anit.
653
00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:21,220
OK, hello.
654
00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:27,280
The idea of sort of starting the day
with nine tots of banana gin and
655
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,400
it with needlework...
656
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,120
It doesn't seem that smart to me, but
that is what we did.
657
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:38,520
It has to go through the... OK.
658
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:43,780
If anybody wants to have a go at basket
weaving, do it sober would be my tip.
659
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:46,520
Tell me, can you tell the bit where I
started? Yes, please.
660
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,760
Put some energy into it. It has to be
tight, man.
661
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:56,720
This is bad, isn't it? It's not so bad.
662
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,600
It's bad, isn't it?
663
00:41:02,009 --> 00:41:04,570
I asked her to check my work and she
undid everything I'd done.
664
00:41:07,650 --> 00:41:10,530
I can't even see this, let alone myself,
mate.
665
00:41:11,570 --> 00:41:14,730
Three weeks of work from Annette, seven
minutes of work from Romesh to
666
00:41:14,730 --> 00:41:17,590
completely ruin it, and then I had to go
and meet a herbalist. I thought, that's
667
00:41:17,590 --> 00:41:18,590
the last thing I need.
668
00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:26,650
Would you mind giving some examples of
what some people in the village have
669
00:41:26,650 --> 00:41:28,390
to you, what kind of problems they've
come to you with?
670
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,580
And how does the, just I'm picking one
at random, how does the Viagra work on
671
00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:42,580
the body?
672
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:52,120
There's a root that if you grind it into
a powder and add it to your coffee or
673
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,040
your tea, it makes you fiercely sexual.
674
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:57,260
He sort of said, you know, you can take
this, it's going to give you an
675
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:58,340
erection, but...
676
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,240
Once you get that erection, you've got
to do something with it.
677
00:42:00,580 --> 00:42:03,240
Do you know what I mean? Like, otherwise
it's a wasted hard -on.
678
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,480
Why would you take it if you're not
going to have sex?
679
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:08,320
I guess if you just wanted to, I don't
know, if you wanted to change your
680
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,320
shadow.
681
00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:11,680
If you wanted to...
682
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:36,280
We took another especially long drive
north, long enough even for me to
683
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,280
from the banana beer.
684
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,740
We eventually arrived at our final
destination, Murchison National Park,
685
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:46,140
an embarrassment of wild animals and
spectacular waterfalls.
686
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:51,260
First, though, we headed over to the
ruins of an old hunting lodge, once home
687
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:53,700
the country's notorious dictator, Idi
Amin.
688
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,320
What is the perception of Idi Amin in
Uganda?
689
00:42:57,820 --> 00:43:01,280
When you say Idi Amin, at least for me,
I know...
690
00:43:01,790 --> 00:43:02,990
Many people died. Right.
691
00:43:03,230 --> 00:43:05,150
Right. So it's not positive.
692
00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:06,510
That's for sure. Yeah.
693
00:43:07,350 --> 00:43:09,690
It doesn't come up much in chat. No, he
does not.
694
00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:14,230
He's sort of seen as the ultimate kind
of mad dictator. Do you know what I
695
00:43:14,370 --> 00:43:18,930
Like in terms of like, obviously he did
a lot of stuff, but just he did a lot of
696
00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:23,250
stuff that was like kind of just a bit
wacky. He challenged the president of
697
00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:26,030
Tanzania to a boxing match. Yeah. That
was funny.
698
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:27,670
And then he said.
699
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,740
Muhammad Ali would be the referee,
winner.
700
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:32,740
I'm sure Muhammad Ali said, wow.
701
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,740
A former British soldier, Idi Amin
became president of Uganda after a coup
702
00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:42,740
1971. So, help me God.
703
00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:46,920
At first welcomed as one of a new breed
of outward -looking modern African
704
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,620
leaders, Amin's reign quickly descended
into a brutal mixture of bloodletting
705
00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:52,620
and farce.
706
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,940
His idiosyncratic style has become
legendary.
707
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:13,880
He declared himself the King of Scotland
and launched the Save Britain Fund to
708
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,680
help with the UK's financial woes.
709
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,300
In 1972, he ordered that all Asians must
leave the country within 90 days.
710
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,420
An apparently popular move... that
served to collapse the entire economy
711
00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:29,760
isolate his regime in the eyes of the
world.
712
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,680
What will happen to these people if they
don't go by the time then?
713
00:44:34,860 --> 00:44:37,960
I think they will be sitting like they
are sitting on the fire.
714
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:41,400
I will tell you this. You just wait
after three months.
715
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:42,638
What will you do to them?
716
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,840
OK, you will see.
717
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:48,000
By 1974, he was engaged in a reign of
terror.
718
00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:51,980
Rumours swelled of cannibalism and
madness.
719
00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:54,690
as 300 ,000 people were killed.
720
00:44:55,210 --> 00:45:00,990
In a desperate attempt to forge national
unity, in 1978, Amin started a war with
721
00:45:00,990 --> 00:45:02,010
neighbouring Tanzania.
722
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:06,830
The strategy failed, and Amin was driven
into exile in Saudi Arabia, where he
723
00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:08,450
eventually died in 2003.
724
00:45:10,510 --> 00:45:14,410
He was survived by his six wives and 43
children.
725
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:19,490
He's quite a colourful dude. You'd
almost like him if it wasn't for the
726
00:45:19,490 --> 00:45:22,590
that... He did a load of horrible stuff
when he was in charge.
727
00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:25,870
I've got this name here, right? This is
what he called himself.
728
00:45:26,110 --> 00:45:32,830
Okay. So Idi Amin called himself His
Excellency, President for Life,
729
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:39,850
Field Marshal Al -Hajji Dr. Idi Amin
Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of all the
730
00:45:39,850 --> 00:45:43,530
of the earth and fishes of the seas, and
conqueror of the British Empire in
731
00:45:43,530 --> 00:45:45,570
Africa in general and Uganda in
particular.
732
00:45:45,930 --> 00:45:48,590
Well... I mean, what do you think of
that? I mean, some of those claims are
733
00:45:48,590 --> 00:45:49,590
true. He had humour.
734
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,020
Well, yes, he was, uh... I mean, part of
it sounds like the tagline of a Marvel
735
00:45:53,020 --> 00:45:54,020
film.
736
00:45:54,740 --> 00:45:56,180
What would your title be?
737
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,440
Um... Yeah. Princess of Uganda.
738
00:45:59,820 --> 00:46:01,660
Yeah. And Uganda in general.
739
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,520
Might as well. Yeah, yeah. Lover of
Jeans. Yeah. Lover of Jeans.
740
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:07,940
And Meat.
741
00:46:08,540 --> 00:46:12,180
Yeah. I love meat. I think mine would be
Romesh Ranganathan.
742
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:14,040
Uh -huh. Vegan father.
743
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,120
Oh. Husband to disappointed wife.
744
00:46:17,620 --> 00:46:18,680
Ruler of comedy.
745
00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:20,770
In Britain and Crawley in particular.
746
00:46:22,890 --> 00:46:26,090
And purveyor of lazy eye. There you go.
747
00:46:27,870 --> 00:46:31,710
He did other things that were a bit
strange, so to speak.
748
00:46:31,930 --> 00:46:36,570
Yeah. People weren't allowed to walk on
the street in slippers.
749
00:46:38,090 --> 00:46:40,890
Yeah. And so they were made to eat them.
750
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:45,690
Okay, well, I mean, apart from the
eating thing, I do sort of agree with
751
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:54,430
Hello. Hello.
752
00:46:56,130 --> 00:46:57,330
You're most welcome, sir.
753
00:46:57,610 --> 00:47:00,090
Thank you very much. Yes, my name is
Silva.
754
00:47:00,330 --> 00:47:04,310
We met a ranger who'd agreed to show us
what remained of Idi Amin's game lodge
755
00:47:04,310 --> 00:47:06,490
and ensure we didn't get eaten in the
process.
756
00:47:06,850 --> 00:47:11,330
Me and my colleague just checked a few
minutes back to make sure we are safe
757
00:47:11,330 --> 00:47:14,590
walking there. We saw like prints for
Leopard.
758
00:47:15,070 --> 00:47:20,830
But we made sure we checked every corner
of the structure, and we didn't find
759
00:47:20,830 --> 00:47:25,410
any. So we are safe to move there. Hey,
can we walk there? Yes, after you.
760
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:30,050
Seeing lots of concrete, it used to be
such a powerful lodge.
761
00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:31,470
What happened to it?
762
00:47:31,690 --> 00:47:34,310
This one was looted, and in the
process...
763
00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:35,620
There was no control.
764
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:39,500
This lodge just caught fire. And it's
how it got destroyed.
765
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:41,720
Yes, you can step down.
766
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Down here?
767
00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:47,040
Okay. It was actually one of the most
beautiful lodges in the park.
768
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,720
Did Amin come to this lodge?
769
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,820
Yes, there is actually another point
where he wanted to put the headquarters
770
00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:54,820
his district.
771
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,640
So we've talked a bit about Idi Amin and
the sillier things, his long name, you
772
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,440
know, some of the things he got up to.
But there is a much darker side to what
773
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,560
he did. During his time in power, 300
,000 people died.
774
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,380
Do you know people who lost family
members during his time?
775
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,800
I mean, the king who was exiled.
776
00:48:23,860 --> 00:48:28,500
Amin wasn't the president then, but he
was really in charge of the army that
777
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:30,280
came to attack our...
778
00:48:32,279 --> 00:48:36,440
palace, so that is the closest
relationship I have.
779
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:41,080
But my mum told me it was difficult when
Idi Amin was president. She was working
780
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:41,859
in government.
781
00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:47,780
People disappeared, people died, so you
had to be careful, is what I remember
782
00:48:47,780 --> 00:48:48,578
her saying.
783
00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:51,280
And can I ask you a question and give me
an honest answer? I won't get offended.
784
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,480
I will try.
785
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,160
Is it slightly annoying for you?
786
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,140
That for somebody that wasn't even alive
at the time, you're now having to field
787
00:48:59,140 --> 00:49:01,520
questions about Idi Amin because I want
to find out about Uganda.
788
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:04,920
I mean, is that something that you
thought I would ask you about? Is that
789
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,960
something you think, why the hell is he
asking you about this?
790
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,620
It was such a long time ago.
791
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Everybody I meet only knows Idi Amin.
792
00:49:13,580 --> 00:49:16,020
Like when you say I'm from Uganda, oh,
Idi Amin.
793
00:49:17,350 --> 00:49:21,290
We've had so many presidents between him
and now we have a president that has
794
00:49:21,290 --> 00:49:24,510
been here for a long time We do have an
Asian community. We've got Asian
795
00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:28,470
businessmen that have been here for a
while But the really interesting thing
796
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:33,330
after Idi Amin left It didn't get any
better. It got worse. There was a civil
797
00:49:33,330 --> 00:49:38,250
war, lots of wars, killings Uganda
wasn't a fun place to live.
798
00:49:38,490 --> 00:49:39,730
I don't know how my mom made it.
799
00:49:39,970 --> 00:49:45,850
And what do you think of the state of
Uganda now in terms of how it's being
800
00:49:45,850 --> 00:49:46,850
and stuff?
801
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:50,060
There's always an opportunity to do
better. When you came in, you saw all
802
00:49:50,060 --> 00:49:55,060
potholes. I think we could do better in
governance, just administration of our
803
00:49:55,060 --> 00:50:00,520
resources to make sure we maintain what
we have. I think we could do better.
804
00:50:00,740 --> 00:50:02,520
Having the oil is really great for our
country.
805
00:50:03,340 --> 00:50:06,400
There's challenges that come with having
so much oil.
806
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,160
But I think it's a good thing we have
these additional resources because our
807
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,500
government has been trying to diversify
income, and this is one of the ways.
808
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:16,240
We do have peace.
809
00:50:17,380 --> 00:50:23,640
which, according to people who are older
than me, is... I mean, they always say,
810
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:29,480
you don't know what you have until you
lose it, right? So for them, having
811
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,200
is enough.
812
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,160
Yeah. By comparison.
813
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:34,500
Yeah.
814
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:39,180
I don't think there'll ever come a time
when we'll completely draw a line and
815
00:50:39,180 --> 00:50:40,720
forget about it. It's just not possible.
816
00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:45,080
But there will come a time where...
817
00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:47,420
It's not the main issue.
818
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,500
It's not the main point of discussion.
819
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,620
I do hope that is good.
820
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,020
I think it will be.
821
00:50:53,460 --> 00:50:59,600
If we do a part two to this, you know,
if I ever come back to do another
822
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,940
Show, my first question will be, tell me
about Lake Victoria.
823
00:51:03,340 --> 00:51:04,319
You promise?
824
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,740
I won't even mention Idi Amin. Good.
825
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,620
Okay. Unless they uncover something new
about him.
826
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,640
in which case it would be my duty on
behalf of the BBC.
827
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:41,800
As the final stage of our journey, Alex
had arranged for us to visit the world's
828
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,060
famous Murchison Falls from a boat.
Something for the crocodiles to chew on.
829
00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:46,140
Right.
830
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,600
Journeying upriver whilst dodging the
numerous deadly animals on the shore,
831
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,020
which would lie perhaps in wait.
832
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:18,450
how fast do they swim People in water,
they can get up to 7 .8 kilometers per
833
00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:23,210
hour. On land, 30 .2. On land, they're
quite fat.
834
00:52:23,770 --> 00:52:27,310
That's annoying, because I'm 7 .7 in the
water and 30 .1 on the land.
835
00:52:28,250 --> 00:52:29,630
After a while, they would catch me.
836
00:52:30,030 --> 00:52:31,490
Real shame. Let's get out of here.
837
00:52:47,140 --> 00:52:48,140
Holy shit.
838
00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:50,160
How close are we going to get to this?
839
00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:59,260
They can get up to five to six metres
long, and they can live up to 100 years.
840
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,540
It's always part of, you know, once
you've done perfect, you see it's alive.
841
00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:05,920
Try. Try and throw something.
842
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:10,060
Oh, it's moving. It's heading towards
the crew boat.
843
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,920
Cool, it's disappeared.
844
00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:14,600
Let's get the fuck out of here.
845
00:53:24,140 --> 00:53:25,500
Oh, my God, I love elephants, man.
846
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,300
Look at that.
847
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:41,100
Wow. Wow.
848
00:53:42,580 --> 00:53:43,580
Whoa.
849
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,520
That is crazy, isn't it?
850
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,760
These falls, sometimes known as the
Caballega Falls, are arguably the most
851
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,900
spectacular thing that happens to the
Nile during its 4 ,000 -mile journey, as
852
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:08,380
the enormous river is forced through a
gap just seven meters wide, plummeting
853
00:54:08,380 --> 00:54:12,180
down 141 feet before heading out west to
Lake Albert.
854
00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:16,740
It has been described, by people who are
almost certainly wrong, as the world's
855
00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:18,100
most powerful waterfall.
856
00:54:20,740 --> 00:54:21,740
Wow.
857
00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:24,320
This is incredible.
858
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,580
It feels a bit threatening to me.
859
00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:31,200
Like, oh my God, I'm going to get you,
that kind of thing.
860
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,040
Wow. Come on now.
861
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,240
Yeah.
862
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:37,740
Welcome to Maction Falls.
863
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:39,100
This is amazing.
864
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:40,340
It is.
865
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,200
It gets really intense. I don't know.
866
00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:46,400
Thank you so much. I mean, I know you
didn't make this, but... You're welcome.
867
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:50,370
This is category shit yourself and die.
Die.
868
00:54:51,210 --> 00:54:52,290
Genuinely amazing.
869
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:54,790
Have you got your swim stuff?
870
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:03,130
When I
871
00:55:03,130 --> 00:55:13,470
first
872
00:55:13,470 --> 00:55:16,740
came here, I knew nothing about this
country, really, just the idea I mean.
873
00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:22,780
But Uganda has got a handful of once -in
-a -lifetime experiences. It's got all
874
00:55:22,780 --> 00:55:26,980
of the stuff that I was sort of
expecting in terms of natural beauty,
875
00:55:27,460 --> 00:55:29,740
but it's got that and then some.
876
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:32,960
For those things alone, it's been an
amazing experience.
877
00:55:33,260 --> 00:55:36,540
And on top of that, people are
fantastic.
878
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,620
Everybody, pretty universally, is
friendly and welcoming and they give you
879
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:43,940
feeling that they're delighted to see
you in the country.
880
00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:50,340
So what I mean, you're just doing a
little piece of camera and off it pops
881
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,940
That's what it's like here. It's like
being in Narnia.
882
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,420
There's amazing wildlife.
883
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,880
It's just set up beautifully for you to
come and have a visit.
884
00:55:57,940 --> 00:56:03,780
On the other hand, you've got a country
that has just passed what I would
885
00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:08,220
describe as a disgusting law that has
widespread support, violence against
886
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:09,220
people from the...
887
00:56:09,630 --> 00:56:13,150
from the gay community is essentially
being sanctioned and being supported.
888
00:56:13,150 --> 00:56:14,150
horrific.
889
00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:20,250
The question is, would I visit this
country knowing all of that?
890
00:56:21,170 --> 00:56:24,910
And the truth is, despite all of the
wonderful things that Uganda has to
891
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:27,310
I don't think I could.
892
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:30,990
I don't think I can wholeheartedly
recommend this as a place to come.
893
00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:34,610
I've made my opinion, but I think that
is up to you.
894
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:37,630
It's a matter of whether you can come
here knowing that that's in place.
895
00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:41,080
You've got an amazing country that has
loads to offer. The people are
896
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,640
friendly. And so I think it's up to
everybody to make their own personal
897
00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:52,240
Next on our trip, I'm off to Rwanda.
898
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,780
I'm very, very excited about it.
899
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,840
That's on the one hand. On the other
hand, we are one third through the trip,
900
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,420
and I'm absolutely exhausted.
901
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,860
I'm very grateful. Thank you so much.
902
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:06,240
Enjoy Rwanda.
903
00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:07,420
I will do.
904
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:12,460
I would say that these chats are going
to be slightly lower energy as we go
905
00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:13,460
forward.
906
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:17,320
By the time we get to Madagascar, I'm
going to have to get someone else to do
907
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,320
them.
908
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:24,660
Oh, my.
909
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,359
Too close.
910
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Too close, too close, too close.
911
00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:38,130
It's good shit.
912
00:57:42,310 --> 00:57:47,010
Get close to all that good stuff now.
Watch the whole series on iPlayer. For
913
00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:51,030
more sedate adventuring, join Rob and
Rylan as they delight in art, history
914
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:51,848
dressing up.
915
00:57:51,850 --> 00:57:54,210
Press red and join the grand tour on
iPlayer.
916
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:58,710
Now then, gird your loins, for we are
headed inside number nine next.
917
00:57:58,970 --> 00:58:01,430
What murky japes await, you may ask.
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But I didn't say I'd answer.
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