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There was no real discussion of killing.
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It just seems like it was an automatic
thing that would happen.
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There was always a spirit of the moment
thing. There was never any planning
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beforehand.
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Welcome to Very Scary People. I'm Donnie
Wahlberg.
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Los Angeles, California in the 1970s was
a place where dreams were made, in the
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movie studios and on the beaches.
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But in the fall of 1977, over a period
of four months, the city was terrorized
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by a predator, hunting young women and
displaying their dead bodies in public.
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Despite a massive police effort to find
the killer, the body count kept rising.
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The terrifying murder spree would go
down as one of the most notorious in U
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history. This is The Hillside
Stranglers.
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Christina Weckler was a 20 -year -old
art student, talented girl.
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Everyone described her as studious and
quiet, a real sweetheart.
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She lived on her own, and she and a
friend, another student at the Art
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Institute, both single women in L .A.,
they kind of made like a pinky swear,
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let's keep each other safe.
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So they made a promise to each other to
be there just in case.
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On a Monday morning, when Christina
didn't show up for her class as she
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would, her friend became very, very
alarmed. This is not like Christina at
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This is out of character.
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So the friend drove over to Christina's
apartment and found Christina's
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Volkswagen was parked in its usual spot.
So she thought, well, maybe she's just
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sick.
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She went up to Christina's apartment
door and knocked, and there wasn't any
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answer.
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Now she's starting to get really
worried.
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So she went and cornered the apartment
manager.
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He opens the apartment.
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They go in, and everything looks normal.
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Her art supplies are out. Her bed is
turned down.
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There's no evidence of any kind of... or
any kind of violence in the apartment.
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The really eerie thing is that Christina
is not there.
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The body of Christina Weckler was found.
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And things got even thicker.
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There were marks of sexual assault.
She'd been violently sexually assaulted.
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And just dumped.
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There were marks on her arms, like maybe
an IV drug
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user. But that didn't fit Christina's
personality at all.
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It was my understanding that she was not
a drug addict or involved in drug
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activity.
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There was a knock at her door.
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It was a former neighbor of hers.
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And he said, Something's happened to
your car, and I think you better come
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and take a look at it.
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So she did.
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She was driven to a house where she was
dragged around and tied up.
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She was injected with a substance
usually used to clean windows.
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Which caused her to go into violent
convulsions.
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But she didn't die.
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She was dragged into the kitchen and a
plastic bag put over her head and a gas
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pipe put into the bag.
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She's gasping for air. The bag is going
in and out as the gas is being
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pumped into it.
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So in the course of however long she was
in captivity there, she was injected.
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with a cleaning substance, and she was
gassed before she was finally killed.
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And it was by means of a cord wrapped
around the neck.
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Death must have seemed a mercy for her.
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Christina was just one of the many
victims of the Hillside Stranglers.
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Some people had puncture marks.
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Some had burns on their hands.
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They were tortured.
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People were being taken off the streets
and turning out murdered in some very
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horrendous ways.
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Everyone is going crazy.
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Police knew they were dealing with a
real sicko out there. Are we dealing
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someone with a medical background
because the bodies were all cleaned?
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No one knew. It was getting stranger by
the week.
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It was extremely alarming.
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And no solution to the series of murders
appears to be in sight.
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We were defenseless. Who will be the
next victim?
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Where will they be found?
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Will it be someone I know?
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It was a crazy, crazy time.
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The 1970s in Los Angeles was pretty much
wide open.
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So there were a lot of people on the
street, especially in Hollywood, because
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there were a lot of nightclubs there.
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A lot of social activities, a lot of
concerts, rock and roll, very lazy fare.
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It was also a much more trusting era.
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A lot of people were hitchhiking.
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Now parents don't even let their
children walk down one block to school
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an escort.
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I think it was just a different time.
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And there was still that element of
sexual revolution.
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And so women were behaving in ways that
they hadn't done in earlier years.
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I think women felt a lot more
comfortable walking down the street. And
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free time. It was a little post the
hippie era.
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It was going to the beach. It was a
party atmosphere in Los Angeles.
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It was a have no fear period of time.
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But it was about to be overshadowed by
tragedy.
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In late 1977, bodies of young women
start turning up around Los Angeles.
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19 -year -old Yolanda Washington's body
was found on the slopes of Forest Lawn
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Cemetery. A prostitute had been murdered
and dropped off naked on a hillside.
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There were ligature marks on her, and
her body was clean.
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But in a rather sad commentary, maybe on
our society, it didn't receive that
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much news coverage because she was a
prostitute, another day, another murder
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L .A.
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I became involved in researching
prostitution as a graduate student at
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that's how I met Yolanda Washington.
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Yolanda Washington was a beautiful,
young, African -American woman who was
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slim and very sweet and very endearing.
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She had a three -year -old child at
home. She was trying hard to get off the
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streets, also working as a waitress and
did a little bit of prostitution work.
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She did a number of things in order to
support her baby.
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Her friends called me and said, we know
who killed her.
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And I said, well, what happened? And
they said she'd stolen a car from her
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who was a dope dealer and had a lot of
drugs in the trunk, and they're sure
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he had killed her, which turned out not
to be the case.
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Not too long after that, there was a
homicide. It was the morning after
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Halloween, November 1st, 1977.
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A young girl, her body was found posed
naked on a front lawn of a house in an
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area that doesn't have any crime, and
it's very remote.
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It's just a few blocks from the junior
high school that I had attended.
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This wasn't something that happened in
our neighborhood, absolutely positively
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unheard of.
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Judith Miller, that's the one that...
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That alarmed and unhinged everybody.
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Judy Miller went to Hollywood High
School.
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She was considered a runaway street
child.
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Body was face up and actually a neighbor
put a tarp over the body before the
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police even arrived to hide it from
neighborhood school kids going to
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Police later find a witness who says
that he saw Judy Miller.
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Getting into a car with a man outside
Carney's restaurant in West Hollywood.
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But that was all the guy knew, and it
didn't give investigators much to work
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with.
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Then several days after that, we had a
murder in the city of Glendale.
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Elisa Katzen was a member of a dance
troupe called the L .A. Knockers.
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The L .A. Knockers.
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fit in with the disco scene of dancing
on roller skates and the happy period
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during that time in Southern California.
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Her body was found on an embankment near
the Glendale Country Club.
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Once again, raped, tortured, rope marks
on her, body had been cleaned.
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That's when it hit us.
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There's a strangler out there.
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Many of the young women are scared out
of their minds.
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We're young people. We've not
experienced something like this anywhere
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life's history.
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This series of murders was completely
foreign to us.
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There was all this talk about we all
need to stick together.
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Lisa Kafton wasn't a prostitute.
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She looked at it as this middle -class
tragedy, whereas the other victims were
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portrayed as having this inappropriate
lifestyle and therefore...
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I think were easier to dismiss in terms
of any patterns of possible serial
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murder. And in some ways, you could
probably argue that this is where the
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turning point happens, where the police
begin to get pressure to form a task
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force. We're starting to pay attention a
lot more to what is going on. And then
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shortly thereafter, other bodies started
popping up. And then more and more and
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more bodies, all women, all showed up on
hillsides.
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in fairly close proximity to one
another.
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There turned out, though, to be certain
traits that the body had been moved.
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Number one, usually a body is found near
where they were killed.
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Number two, the ligature marks.
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Number three, the cleaning of the
bodies, which was extremely unusual.
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Of course, news being news and profit
being profit, news people came up with a
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scary moniker, the Hillside Strangler.
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and it got the residents, particularly
the women, in a state of panic because
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nothing seems to tie these victims
together.
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They haven't got a lead on a killer.
They have no idea what's going on.
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Fear permeated the air of Southern
California like an invisible poisonous
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Women were scared for their lives.
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Men were scared for their wives and
their daughters. It was a very
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time.
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I had been married a year. My wife was a
deputy sheriff. She carried a gun, and
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I still worried for her.
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Every police officer I know was working,
was fearful for their families.
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I graduated from high school in 1977.
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I went to work in retail in the Glendale
Galleria. It was a very large shopping
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mall.
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By and large, the feeling was terror.
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All the employees were required to park
in a specific section at the mall.
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That both made things easier and a
little more difficult.
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So somebody studying the women working
at the mall, they knew where they would
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be transitioning to at the start of work
and at the finish of work.
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Our store mandated that the male
employees escort the women to and from
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cars. You look at what's going on in the
U .S. in terms of serial murder.
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It was a very active time.
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Theodore Bundy was a suspect in the sex
-related murders or disappearance.
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of more than 30 other women in four
states between 1974 and 1978.
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Gacy was convicted of the sex slangs of
33 young men. His seven -year killing
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spree ended with the discovery of dozens
of bodies buried under his home in
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suburban Chicago.
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It was just a scenario where serial
killing, for whatever reason, whether
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because people were doing these copycat
type of aspects or whether it was
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just... the frustration of what was
going on in society, and you have a lot
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men kind of going down this path of
serial killing during that time.
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Dolores Cepeda and Sonya Johnson.
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12 - and 14 -year -old girls took a bus
from their home out to the Eagle Rock
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Plaza to go shopping.
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Sonia, you can see that she looks just
like on the cusp of womanhood, just kind
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of getting there, but you can still see
that gangly kid.
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And Dolores, she's just flat -out a kid.
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They spent the better part of the day
out there like teenage girls will do.
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They caught the bus to come back.
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And what they didn't know is that they
were being watched
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and they were being hunted.
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There was another passenger on the bus,
and he's watching them get off the bus
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in the Eagle Rock area.
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He notices the girls go over to a two
-tone car, and they sort
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of lean in on the passenger side, and
they're talking to someone.
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And then the bus pulls away, and he
loses sight of them.
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Dolores and Sonia weren't in the habit
of not returning home when they said
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were going to be home.
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And so when they didn't show up after
their shopping excursion, their families
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are really concerned, and they're on it
right away.
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They report them missing.
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They put their school pictures on flyers
that they put up around the
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neighborhood.
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A week later, a nine -year -old boy was
rummaging through a trash dump near
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Dodger Stadium.
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He's going through a trash heap, and he
comes on what he thinks may be
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mannequins. As he got closer, he said
that there were flies all over them, and
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that's when he realized that something
was wrong.
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It's Dolores and Sonia in garbage.
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What really made this one hurt, they
were just 12 - and 14 -year -old girls.
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They were so small and so helpless.
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I mean, there's no way that any
rational, reasonable person can
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that level of depravity. I don't see how
any one of us could do it.
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Once the girls were found, police spoke
to the boy.
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who saw them exit the bus.
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He saw Dolores and Sonia go up to a car
to the passenger side, which led them to
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believe that there were two people in
the car.
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And you feel it would have had to have
been two people to handle the two girls?
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Well, certainly, because Sonia was
brought up that she didn't get into a
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with anybody except me.
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So she must have been forced into the
car. Certainly.
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Regardless of whether or not the two
girls were forced...
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Detectives realized they were likely
looking for two perpetrators.
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One thing that threw all of us off is a
pair of serial killers is almost unheard
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of. Serial killers are almost always one
figure.
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Serial killers do not operate in pairs.
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It is unique because when you study
serial killers, we refer to those as
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killers.
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According to what data we have, I would
say it's uncommon.
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There was statements, badges had been
flashed. Had a lot of concern.
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We weren't sure what we're looking at.
Were they impersonating cops or were
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cops?
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A lot of my girlfriends would say, I saw
a guy in a car. A guy tried to stop me
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in a car.
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Women were so scared in Los Angeles and
the police were so worried that it could
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be one of their own that they issued a
statement that if a single woman was
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driving in a car and a police officer
tried to pull them over, that they
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have to pull over.
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They were free to drive to a lighted
area where they felt safe.
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That I don't think has ever been done.
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As a theory circulated that the killers
might be in law enforcement, the
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daughter of a well -known celebrity was
stopped by two men with badges.
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Actor Peter Lorre was famous primarily
in the 30s and 40s.
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Catherine Lorre was a student.
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And she and a friend of hers were out in
Hollywood.
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We got to about the middle of the
street, and this car came around the
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and just cut us off, at which point two
men got out of the car. Both of them
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were just kind of flashing badges.
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They asked Catherine for her ID.
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The first leaf of the wallet was
pictures of my father and me.
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So he started reading down the paper,
and he got to the point at which he saw
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the name Peter Lorre.
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At that point, they kind of were just
hesitant, and they said, well, okay, you
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know, I guess that's all right.
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I've done thousands of news stories in
the 30 years that I worked in
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The one that stuck with me most was
Catherine Lorre, just because how close
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came to death.
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She just happened to pull that card out
and say that she was Peter Lorre's
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daughter and that it apparently froze
them into inaction.
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They didn't want to get involved with
that and let her go. And now two men had
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been spotted by witnesses.
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Police officers and detectives were
holding constant news conferences and
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to put up with reporters shouting
questions to them. Why can't you solve
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case? Well.
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Solving a crime is hard, and no one was
more frustrated than Clayton.
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We were clueless trying to solve this at
this point.
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Even though detectives had no leads,
they started to notice a pattern.
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One of the things that came up in the
case is you started looking at the way
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bodies were being dumped, and it was
actually painting what I will call a
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semicircle or crescent around the city
of Glendale.
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most of them found within a seven -mile
radius of Griffith Park and the Golden
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State Freeway.
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My personal impression, that it was
somebody from the city of Glendale that
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trying to dump the bodies outside the
city of Glendale so that it wouldn't
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back to them.
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The murders are mounting, the public is
terrified, and police are facing
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tremendous pressure to solve this case.
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The stranglers became bolder and bolder
as time went on.
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It was like there was a statement being
made here.
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This is what we think about women, and
this is what we think about the city of
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Los Angeles.
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Welcome back to Very Scary People.
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By late November 1977.
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The bodies of seven young women have
been found, dumped on the hillsides of
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Angeles.
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Investigators have few, if any, leads,
but the media has given the killer a
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name, the Hillside Strangler.
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Some witnesses report that the crime
seemed to be the work of more than one
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and a terrifying theory begins
circulating that the killer, or killers,
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posing as members of law enforcement.
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The next body was found at a freeway off
-ramp that I went on five days a week.
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I admit, it was getting a little close
to home.
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Her body was left face up.
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Jane King was the oldest victim.
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She dabbled in Scientology.
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She was apparently abducted from a bus
stop outside the Scientology Center.
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The murders are mounting.
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The public is terrified.
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And police are facing tremendous
pressure to solve this case.
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What was kind of unique about this
particular serial killing versus other
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killings I've seen is the rapid rate of
committing the murders.
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It was a tremendous amount.
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The LAPD is getting a lot of heat from
the public. Everyone is going crazy. So
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they formed what was called the Hillside
Strangler Task Force.
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That was the LAPD.
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The Glendale Police Department and the
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
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So they could coordinate and look at all
clues from one source.
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You've got to realize the county of Los
Angeles is made up of 88 separate cities
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and plus unincorporated areas.
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And when these occurred, you know, the
Los Angeles Police Department, the Los
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Angeles Sheriff's Department, the
Glendale Police Department all became
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extremely cooperative in forming this
task force to come together.
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and all the other agencies in the county
would provide as much information and
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support as they could to it.
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In the big cities, sadly, murders happen
all the time.
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Often bodies are found, and maybe it
wasn't the hillside strangler.
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The police had to be extremely careful,
as did we in the media, to not
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misidentify it.
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We had a lot of clues coming in, a lot
of different tips coming in from all
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kinds of people.
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You have to realize that time period, we
didn't have computers to do analysis or
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maintain logs.
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Everything had to be handwritten and
hand logged.
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Every clue, every tip that would come
in.
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We didn't have access to DNA. We
couldn't just run fingerprints to an
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system. They were getting so many calls,
they probably could not keep up with
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them. Making it even more difficult were
that the victims were often completely
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different kinds of people.
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One could be a prostitute, one could be
a straight -A student.
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They were different races, different
ethnic groups, lived in different areas
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town.
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The task force couldn't work fast
enough.
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Lauren Wagner was followed by the
killers to in front of her own parents'
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A neighbor saw her arguing with two men
and then heard her say, you won't get
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away with this.
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Unfortunately, the neighbor didn't
immediately report that. Like the other
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victims, Lauren Wagner had been tortured
by whoever had abducted her.
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They decide to use a bit of electrical
wire, which leaves marks on her hands.
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They'd shock her.
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It doesn't kill her. It's just painful.
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They're sadists, and that's what they
want to do.
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And finally, not to put her out of her
misery, they just strangle her to death.
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Kimberly Martin was a lovely, young, 17
-year -old girl. Pretty, blue -eyed,
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blonde hair.
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She was a call girl.
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And she had taken herself off the street
because the strangler was out there, so
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she was using an agency instead.
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It wasn't enough to save her life.
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When the police investigated the murder,
they learned about an altercation she
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had at a Hollywood building the night
she died.
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They questioned all the neighbors in the
building. That included a guy named
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Kenneth Bianchi, who recently moved from
Rochester, New York, to spend time with
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his cousin.
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When the police came to look for the
escort that never came home, Bianchi
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to them, jokes around and so on.
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And the police fill out the report and
we're done.
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Bianchi continued to follow every aspect
of the Hillside Strangler case,
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including stories about different
suspects questioned by police.
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After intensive investigation.
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The Los Angeles Police Department
finally has booked a suspect in the
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Strangler case.
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We have arrested a man by the name of
Ned T. York, male Caucasian.
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Assistant Chief Daryl Gates met with
newsmen shortly after the suspect was
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booked today and said York had made
certain statements implicating himself.
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If police had the right guy, the entire
city of Los Angeles could take a
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collective buy -up release.
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The question is...
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It's Ned York, the Hillside Strangler.
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In a story so typical of Hollywood, a
small -time actor named Ned York
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said he might be the Hillside Strangler.
And he just comes out of nowhere. And
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the task force is hoping they can
finally put people's fears to rest.
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But those hopes started to fade pretty
quickly.
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When they first started questioning him,
he was rambling incoherently. They
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weren't sure whether it was drugs or
what.
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Finally, during the questioning, he fell
asleep.
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Last we heard, he was still asleep.
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It turns out Ned York said he was on
angel dust when he approached police.
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In fact, he had nothing to do with the
Hillside Stranglers.
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Police had no choice but to release him
from custody.
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Sometimes there are false confessors.
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That's another feature of crimes like
this.
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The police in Los Angeles seem to be
back where they started in the Hillside
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Strangler case.
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There are 55 officers that work full
-time on the series of murders, and they
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would welcome a break.
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We'll always accept a lucky break and be
very appreciative of it.
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Lucky breaks help you crack them sooner.
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We'll keep at it until it is cracked.
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Suddenly, the killings appeared to stop.
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We went through Christmas, Valentine's
Day.
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Those of us in the media thought that
maybe two things happened. Either the
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monster discovered a conscience, or
maybe he met the same fate as his
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Then, right after Valentine's Day, A
helicopter spotted an orange Datsun off
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Angeles Crest Highway, north of Los
Angeles.
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The victim was found in the trunk of her
new car, 50 feet down a steep hillside.
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When they went down to pull it up, they
found the body of Cindy Hudspeth in the
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trunk. In Los Angeles, another young
woman strangled in the hills, a 20 -year
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-old bank clerk who taught Bible classes
and wanted to be an actress.
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Police were particularly curious as to
how Cindy's body ended up in such a
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remote location.
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Their car was up on Angeles Crest
Highway, which goes up in the Angeles
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Forest. And to drive a car up there,
you're going to need a second vehicle to
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drive away from there. So somebody would
have to follow you up and pick you up
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and take you away.
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Kent, Hudspeth's car was pushed over a
cliff that indicated once again that
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than one strangler was involved.
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Now, investigators were more certain
than ever that they were looking for two
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killers. They also noticed a strange
connection between Cindy Hudspeth and
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another victim.
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Investigators are greatly interested in
the fact that this victim lived just
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across the street from victim number
seven, 20 -year -old Christina Wexler.
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Cindy Hudspeth was actually related to
one of my officers.
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And that, you know, also becomes a thing
is that we've not solved it. We haven't
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got closure even for him.
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I mean, we went through ten murders and
had no leads that we could really go
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back and say we got probable cause to
arrest somebody.
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Los Angeles Sheriff's investigators have
found a witness who saw Cindy Hudspeth
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driving north on Glendale Boulevard in
Glendale.
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Cindy Hudspeth was last seen on Colorado
and Glendale Avenue at that
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intersection. We were handing out
flyers.
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Passing a motorist trying to get clues.
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About the time of night she went through
there, seeing if anybody recognized
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anything.
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Not knowing that a block and a half away
from where we were standing was where
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all these murders were occurring.
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It became like, what are we looking for?
We really don't know.
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You and your team follow up on this clue
or follow up on that clue.
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Most of which were just tips that would
amount to nothing in the end.
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I had the only video camera in the
department, so they would say, hey, go
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and video this crime scene.
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Probably the one that was the premier
one was Richard Reynolds.
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Richard Reynolds was known to the
Glendale Police Department, the Los
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Police Department, and the L .A. County
Sheriff's Department as a registered sex
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offender. Baker said that Reynolds was
in a nearby bar just 20 minutes before
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and 29 -year -old Roxanne Barnwell were
found shot to death in her car behind
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Glendale Community Hospital.
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Baker says there's evidence that
Reynolds was waiting for his victim and
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his way into her car.
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Attacker and victim then shooting each
other to death.
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Geographically, the location of this
very unusual incident raised a lot of
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suspicions. The Hillside Strangler Task
Force was called in after Glendale
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police found a pattern.
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Reynolds and the Barnwell woman were
killed just a block and a half from
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two victims of the Hillside Strangler
had lived.
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Christine Weckler and Cindy Lee Hudspeth
lived across Garfield Avenue from one
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another, and Barnwell lived a block away
from them.
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Then police noted that Reynolds' home in
La Crescenta, just two blocks away from
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the spot where Judith Ann Miller's body
was found October 31st.
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That made police particularly
suspicious.
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We thought, this must be the Hillside
Strangler. Why else would a man shoot a
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00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,280
woman and a woman shoot a man in that
particular area?
456
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:54,400
The house is being checked as part of a
routine investigation to determine
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00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,600
whether he is or is not a suspect.
458
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:02,680
At the conclusion of what I can call a
very thorough search of the residence,
459
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:08,540
officers were unable, I emphasize,
unable to readily identify.
460
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,180
Anything to connect Mr. Reynolds to the
Hillside Strangler murders.
461
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Turned out he was not related to the
case at all.
462
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,560
How long does a case like this remain
open?
463
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:21,120
Ed Henderson says... Forever.
464
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:26,020
How about yourself? How long will you be
on it? Well, I won't be here forever, I
465
00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:30,840
know that. But I'll be on the case until
it's solved or I retire.
466
00:33:42,860 --> 00:33:47,520
One of the interesting things that
occurred after Cindy Hudspeth was found
467
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,520
the murders stopped.
468
00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:50,480
They completely stopped.
469
00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:56,680
People don't know whether to breathe a
sigh of relief or be even more wary.
470
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,220
Is the killer taking a break? What is
going on? It makes everybody uneasy.
471
00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:05,460
From a law enforcement standpoint, we
look at why did they stop?
472
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,860
It's a person in custody and we're not
aware of it.
473
00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:09,460
Did they die?
474
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,120
We don't have closure.
475
00:34:22,670 --> 00:34:25,929
Bellingham is a beautiful spot, right on
Puget Sound.
476
00:34:26,409 --> 00:34:27,730
Very nice community.
477
00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:30,429
Definitely a safe place to live.
478
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:34,050
But in January 1979, that would all
change.
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00:34:34,969 --> 00:34:39,650
Bellingham was very concerned about
these two young women, Karen Maddox and
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00:34:39,650 --> 00:34:41,110
Diane Wilder, who were missing.
481
00:34:41,429 --> 00:34:42,830
The two women were roommates.
482
00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:45,270
Both attended Western Washington
University.
483
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,300
The first hint of their disappearance
came late Thursday when Karen Mandick
484
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:51,960
failed to return to the local Fred Meyer
from her dinner break.
485
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,600
The one girl, Karen Mandick, was working
at Fred Meyer's store, which is the
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00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,300
large department food store in
Bellingham.
487
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,180
Karen asked her manager if she could
take a long dinner break because she had
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00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:06,720
job opportunity that came up.
489
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,200
She told her manager she was going to
take from 7 to 9.
490
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:14,720
She had a security job.
491
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,900
and was going to be making quite a bit
of money, and she was going to come back
492
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:20,900
in two hours.
493
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:26,000
Karen found out about the security job
from a former Fred Myers employee.
494
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,500
He said, hey, you know, I'm in the
private security business now, and I've
495
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:31,920
this great gig for you.
496
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:36,660
He indicated they were putting a
security alarm in this house, and the
497
00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:40,620
some very valuable things, and they
needed to have security for two hours.
498
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,040
If you want to just house it for a
little bit, you can pick $100.
499
00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:48,890
And she asked if her roommate could be
involved, Diane Wilder.
500
00:35:50,330 --> 00:35:51,570
It's 9 o 'clock.
501
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:54,550
Karen doesn't come back to the store
from her dinner break.
502
00:35:55,170 --> 00:36:00,790
This is not like her at all. She is
very, very responsible.
503
00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:04,750
So the police get called when she
doesn't turn up.
504
00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:09,930
What the hell happened to her? The
police put out the vehicle description,
505
00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:10,990
is a Mercury Bobcat.
506
00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:15,360
and asked people in the community to be
aware of this vehicle, and if they saw
507
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,240
it, to call the Bellingham Police
immediately.
508
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,280
They really, at this point, need to get
over to her apartment, check it out, see
509
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,860
if there's anything going on that
explains why she didn't go back to work.
510
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:32,340
There was a note there that indicated,
can be called, wants a call back,
511
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,480
and there was a phone number.
512
00:36:33,820 --> 00:36:35,360
It's in Diane's handwriting.
513
00:36:36,540 --> 00:36:40,720
Investigators had called a security
company and found out a man by the name
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00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,100
Kenneth Bianchi worked there.
515
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,920
He had also previously worked at Fred
Meyer.
516
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,360
Did he by any chance have a job tonight?
517
00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:52,360
No, no, he wasn't supposed to be working
at all.
518
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,360
So that's when they decide, uh -oh,
that's when they start looking into Ken
519
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,360
Bianchi.
520
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,240
Ken had recently moved to the area and
was living with his girlfriend Kelly
521
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,240
and their infant son.
522
00:37:05,950 --> 00:37:10,350
So they met him at about 2 .30 that
morning. He tried to present himself as
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00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:12,030
very likable, affable person.
524
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:16,410
He at first denied knowing Karen
Mandick. Then he said, well, he did
525
00:37:16,410 --> 00:37:17,950
meeting her at one point.
526
00:37:18,330 --> 00:37:22,850
So they were concerned about him and
whether he was being honest to them.
527
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:29,590
Then at about 4 .30 that afternoon, a
car had been sighted.
528
00:37:30,010 --> 00:37:31,190
Police responded.
529
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,920
and the officer could look into the
vehicle and can see that there were two
530
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,240
bodies, and he could tell that both of
the young women looked deceased.
531
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,120
The bodies of Karen Mandick and Diane
Wilder were found stuffed in the back
532
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,120
of Ms. Mandick's car.
533
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:53,840
The bodies were very carefully removed,
and the evidence was preserved, and the
534
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,380
bodies were then taken to a funeral home
where autopsies were conducted that
535
00:37:58,380 --> 00:37:59,380
morning.
536
00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:04,780
There were large ligature marks on the
necks of both of the girls.
537
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:09,780
And this looked like it was a rope. It
wasn't a wire. It was something wider,
538
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:11,660
which would indicate they were
strangled.
539
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,360
The women were killed only hours after
the disappearance.
540
00:38:14,860 --> 00:38:19,400
This just was a very alarming case
because the Bellinghams are very safe
541
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,400
These are two young college girls.
542
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,120
really concerned everyone in the
community.
543
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,900
It is something that we just did not
have a great deal of background with.
544
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,300
I started getting search warrants, and
in Bianchi's apartment, we found a piece
545
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:44,260
of paper with Karen Mandic's name on it,
which really contradicted what he said,
546
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,980
that he just knew her in passing. That
just wasn't the case.
547
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,000
We also found a number of items that had
been stolen from Fred Meyer.
548
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,760
And so I have only 72 hours to charge
someone with a crime when we're holding
549
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,120
them. So I charge him with possession of
stolen property.
550
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,560
Charging the suspect with possession of
stolen property this afternoon buys
551
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,520
authorities some time to complete their
investigation.
552
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Police have not charged Bianchi with the
murders, but they say they believe they
553
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,980
have evidence linking him to the
killings.
554
00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:19,400
At the crime scene, it looked like the
entire home had been wiped down.
555
00:39:20,060 --> 00:39:23,780
There were not fingerprints on areas
that you would expect to find
556
00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:25,340
from people living in a home.
557
00:39:26,060 --> 00:39:31,280
They also found a pubic hair when they
lifted Diane Wilder's body out of the
558
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:37,200
that was on her clothing that matched
microscopically the characteristics of
559
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,260
pubic hair from Mr. Bianchi. Hair isn't
a positive identification. It's not like
560
00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:46,380
fingerprints. We didn't have DNA in
those days. But it certainly is enough
561
00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:47,960
get you closer and closer.
562
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:52,600
The evidence was sent to the FBI
laboratory in Washington, D .C. The
563
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,180
investigation is proceeding rapidly. The
FBI is proceeding very rapidly with our
564
00:39:57,180 --> 00:40:03,720
examination. Once the FBI gave us the
further facts, tying Bianchi with the
565
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:08,400
girls, we were starting to really get
the full picture of exactly what was
566
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,299
on here.
567
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:13,360
And I subsequently amended the
information that I charged with
568
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,420
stolen property to two counts of first
-degree murder.
569
00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:26,380
To say that Kenneth Bianchi had a
troubled childhood is putting it mildly.
570
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,360
He is an individual who wants to be
dominant and in control, and he wants to
571
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,940
other people as submissive to him.
572
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,280
On the surface, though, Bianchi could
appear normal.
573
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,580
He keeps saying, I killed those girls.
574
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,800
I didn't.
575
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:47,280
He has said a number of times that the
real killer is still there.
576
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,860
I'm the one who's getting the blame.
577
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,480
The defense attorney claimed that Mr.
Bianchi was a multiple personality.
578
00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:56,980
What's your name?
579
00:40:58,060 --> 00:40:59,060
Steve.
580
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,820
The name Stephen Walker was a name that
interested us.
581
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Here in Bellingham, what did Steve do up
here?
582
00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:11,520
Right from the jump. It was a bad
performance.
583
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:17,300
While he was supposedly under hypnosis,
Steve mentioned his cousin.
584
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Killed anybody?
585
00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:30,450
And we all are thinking this is probably
the second strangler.
586
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:40,450
The arrest of Kenneth Bianchi for the
murders of two young women in
587
00:41:40,510 --> 00:41:43,550
Washington, at first appears to be an
isolated incident.
588
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,080
But very quickly, detectives realized
the case is much bigger than it seems.
589
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:52,700
Could Bianchi and the Washington
killings be tied to something more
590
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,520
A shocking confession in part two of The
Hillside Stranglers.
591
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160
I'm Donnie Wahlberg. Thanks for
watching.
592
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,360
Good night.
593
00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:05,960
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