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The average fireman, that's their job.

For a pyromaniac, it's their life. He is
consumed by it.

A guy like that has such a mass, such a
facade of normality, that it's almost

impossible to detect something is wrong.

The fact that he seems to set all his
fires in crowded places during the day

where people could potentially die is
important.

much, much more dramatic, and it's much
more stimulating, much more eroticized

for the pyromaniac.

Welcome to Very Scary People.

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

On October 10th, 1984, flames swept
through a crowded store in California,

trapping some employees and shoppers
inside.

There was panic and confusion, and not
everyone escaped in time.

Investigators combed through the debris
to try to establish the cause.

Was this an accident or arson?

More mysterious fires followed, and a
pattern emerged.

There was an arsonist on the loose.

Now the hunt was on. This is part one of
The Fire Starter.

Ole's Home Center in South Pasadena was
big and had pretty much anything you

could think of from cheap tools to
Christmas lights.

It was actually in a building that had
once housed a grocery store and a drug

store.

They cut two holes in the wall between
the two stores and put a couple of roll

-up doors in there so that people can go
in between, and those things will drop

down as soon as there's a fire.

The roll -up doors would stop the fire
from spreading from one side of the

to the other.

On October 10, 1984, there were dozens
of people in the Ole's hardware store,

among them employees and shoppers.

I was 19 and just started working full
-time.

I could have never imagined that
evening. It would have totally changed

The store was pretty quiet that evening
because it was the game two of the World

Series.

Billionaire to deal. They live in the
neighborhood, and they're babysitting

their grandson, Matthew Troy.

And decide that, hey, you know, it's a
nice sort of warm night.

Let's go down to Oli's and do some
shopping.

Of course, little Matthew isn't really
having it, doesn't want to be in the

cart. And they say, oh, don't worry.

We'll get you some ice cream. We'll take
you to Baskin -Robbins.

Ada and Matthew, grandmother and
grandson, are perusing aisles in the

department. And Billy is up in the tools
section, which is in a completely other

part of the store.

All of a sudden I heard somebody
yelling, hey, we need to clear the

need to get out of the store.

I looked over and noticed that there was
a column of smoke.

I went back over to the hardware
department all the way in the back of

and saw a couple of customers, told
them, hey, we need to leave the store

now.

Jim Obdom encounters Ada and Matthew in
one of the aisles.

And there was a lady with her grandchild
in the very last row of the department

that was looking at the merchandise.

And I told her that we needed to leave
the store, that there was an emergency.

And he asked her to follow him, and he
began walking towards the closest fire

door to them.

And I told her, take your grandson out
of the cart, because we need to move

quickly out of the store.

As we were walking down the main aisle,
I looked over to the right and saw that

that pillar of smoke was not a pillar of
smoke anymore.

It was a wall of flame.

As he walked towards that fire door, the
fire door suddenly came down.

I was trapped because two roll of doors
closed on me, blocking my way from one

side of the door to the other building.

It traps them in this building.

that a raging blaze is just about to
consume.

And as I see the flames on one side of
me, all of a sudden the light flickered

and turned off, and everything turned
black, and it was just an orange glow.

You have nothing on your mind but sheer
panic.

He's hoping he can save this grandmother
and her grandbaby, but he also knows

he's got to get out of there.

I went so fast that I don't even
remember seeing the lady with her

there. I lost her.

It was pitch black in the store, and I
couldn't see anything really. So at that

point in time, I just prayed and said,
you know, Lord, get me out of here.

It was just totally chaos.

And I was trying to figure out where to
go from here.

I headed toward the back wall.

and built my way along the aisle in the
dark.

It just seemed incredibly hot.

He makes his way through the smoke
toward the one emergency door that he

that leads out to the back of the
hardware store.

As I was working my way down the back
aisle toward the exit, it was just the

intense heat. It was extreme.

He had to shield his head and body with
his arms from the fire as it became so

intense.

And it just seemed like forever to get
to those emergency exit doors.

So I felt like giving up.

But then here are the doors.

I was like, I'm going to be the last one
out of these doors.

And when he gets outside and turns
around and looks at where he came from,

building is engulfed in flames.

I remember seeing smoke coming out of
those doors, and it was just black.

I knew that there would be people that
perished in the fire.

In less than five minutes, this fire
went from a small fire to a fully

12 ,000 -square -foot building.

I had first and second -degree burns on
my arm and also on my ear, on my

forehead and face.

Outside the store, the crowd is
gathering, and among the spectators is

Deal, and he's asking everybody, have
you seen my wife, have you seen my

grandson? Do you know where they might
be?

And these emotions are playing out in
the parking lot of this hardware store

that is absolutely engulfed in this
fire.

The captain is trying to direct his
rookie firefighters into this massive

John Orr shows up. He was the fire
investigator for the city of Glendale.

fire investigative community all knew
John Orr very well, and he was a well

-respected investigator.

And he seemed to have a great deal of
knowledge about fire that many other

people didn't have.

And he takes a bunch of pictures of the
firefighters and the fire.

It was putting up quite a bit of smoke.
I started taking photographs of the

always fire.

Because it's a good tactic to take
pictures of the crowd.

If a fire ever turns out to be arson,
then it's a good idea to have some crowd

shots.

John was known for telling all these
investigators that the bug is always in

crowd.

So you should video it so you can figure
out whether somebody's showing up at a

bunch of your fires, and then you'll
know that that person is the arsonist.

I found in my experience as an arson
investigator, their trait of coming back

the scene of the crime is almost
universal.

It seems that the motivations are to see
the damage that's done or being around

the excitement of what's going on and
being the only one that knows what

actually happened.

I heard that there was nobody else that
made it out of the store.

The Ole's Home Center fire started at 8
.04 p .m. on the night of October 10,

1984.

First arriving units found that fire was
fully involved inside the west side of

the Ole store.

They saw smoke and fire beginning to
come out of all of the open doors and

in the location, and within minutes it
was through the roof.

People are watching, people who've been
evacuated from the store, people who

worked in the store.

I was very much concerned for my co
-workers.

inside will be homicide victims.

We came back the next morning, and by
then the L .A. County Sheriff's

had taken over the entire scene, so we
were excluded as investigators on that

case.

The investigation of the Ole's Home
Center fire was led by...

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Arson
Homicide Division, they couldn't figure

out what happened because they couldn't
decide whether or not it was electrical

fire. The fire was what we call
undetermined, and it really became a

recovery effort fairly early on.

In all, there's four people that died in
this Holy Fire.

Working in the store was Carolyn Krause.

People remember her leading people out
of the store when this fire took place.

She was a very sweet young lady who got
along really well.

Jimmy Satina was a high school kid.

And he was like an all -American
athlete.

He was being scouted by the Chicago
Cubs. He had a bright future.

Whenever you saw him, he always had a
smile on his face, never in a bad mood.

He led people to safety and ultimately
perished.

It was very saddening to hear that.

Among the victims were Ada Diehl and
Matthew Treidel.

We were called last night and told he
was trapped in there. He was dead.

That's all we know.

They were found about 20 feet from the
door.

My grandbaby, he would have been three
in January.

He'd be with his other grandmother.

They were in the store shopping with her
husband, his grandfather.

She decided to go back for one more
thing.

She took the baby with her, and I'm sure
she did everything she could for him.

It was the next day that I found out
that the lady and her grandchild passed

away in the fire.

All of the victims who died in this fire
died from smoke inhalation, and that is

typically what happens in a fire.

People very rarely burn to death in
fires.

Most of the time it's the smoke that
kills them because they're not breathing

enough oxygen. Then the fire envelops
them.

John Orr knew very well the sister of
one of the victims in the fire.

And a couple of days after the fire, he
specifically told her that he was angry

that they had not determined this was an
arson fire.

And he tells her, this is an arson fire.

And I'm bound and determined to get to
the bottom of why this fire happened and

who set it.

To investigate a fire scene, you start
from a distance and work your way into

it, observing the scene itself and
what's presented by the scene,

and then moving into the point or the
area of origin.

The point of origin is where the fire
started.

It was going to tell you the possible
cause of the fire. It could be an

accidental fire due to electrical short.

It could be careless smoking.

It can be any number of things.

A good fire investigator can track back
to the area where it originated and then

try and ascertain what it was
specifically that started the fire,

a shorted wire or a pour of gasoline
throughout a room starting.

the entire room on fire.

You have to assume it's going to be
accidental from the beginning until you

eliminate all of the accidental causes.

And in fact, John Orr went to the area
of origin and expressed his own opinions

as to why this fire was arson and
different from what they said.

One of the things that John was really
good at was reading a fire.

He knew that arson fires start from the
ground up, and electrical fires always

burn from the top down.

The little bit of investigation I was
able to do after the fire was knocked

showed the appearance of being a fire
starting low in the actual merchandise

area. I had great respect for John. I
was impressed with his knowledge.

There would be a number of fire scenes
where the investigators might be

struggling. to try to find out where the
fire started, and he had a knack of

showing up on scene and being able to
relatively quickly identify the point of

origin of the fire where other
investigators had been stumped by until

arrival.

My dad was the hero of solving those
fires and figuring out where they

and that they were arson. He was on the
news quite often. There's a lot of

witness statements and a lot of possible
suspects that were in the area at the

time of the fire.

To anybody that worked at a fire
investigation at the time, his

almost larger than life.

Or tell them, there's something
happening here that you are missing, and

ignore it.

We were taken out of the investigation,
and it was taken over by the L .A.

Sheriff's Department.

Their method was basically bring in a D
-9 caterpillar, tore down a couple of

walls.

Once they began to drive heavy equipment
into the scene, You have now

compromised your scene investigation
because you certainly can't figure out

substance was used to start a fire if
you're driving heavy equipment inside a

location before you finish your
investigation.

If the sheriff would only have listened
to what he said, they would have

realized there was something far more
sinister going on that night.

The loss of life in a popular retail
store made headlines in Southern

California. Four people died in this
fire, including a grandmother and her

-year -old grandson.

The other two were employees of Ole's
Home Center.

The investigators, because they didn't
determine that it was an arson fire,

didn't conduct any further
investigations.

If they had done so, they may have
realized that two fires... on that very

night, may have been connected to the
Ole's home center fire.

The first one was about 15 minutes away
from the Ole South Pasadena location.

John Orr was sent to investigate it.

I was paged to assist the Pasadena
investigator at a supermarket fire.

It was a fairly small fire in a potato
chip rack.

It seemed more of a juvenile type thing,
a fun fire, or maybe a diversion.

Set the fire and then go over and steal
liquor or expensive meats or gourmet

foods while the entire focus of the
staff was to put the fire out. I just

on some basic information and then
agreed to cruise around just to see what

going on in case something broke out.

The third fire that night was in another
grocery store, also in the potato chip

rack.

So I went down, drove a half mile, and
investigated the potato chip fire at

location, and then came back up and
joined our group at the Ole's fire

John Orr participated in all three of
those investigations during that night.

Investigators quickly determined the two
potato chip fires were arson fires.

But because the fires were in grocery
stores, investigators thought there was

way they could be linked to the giant
blaze that happened at Ole.

very quickly dismissed any thought that
there was some linkage between these

three fires.

If anybody had connected these three
fires, they would have realized that

was something far more serious happening
that night and that there was an

arsonist on the loose and he wasn't
going to be satisfied until his arson

some real damage and he got some credit
for it.

The only report that reflects that
connection is a report that John Orr

He said that was the same person that
started all these fires.

If you look at the pattern among
pyromaniacs, they often do it in a spree

fashion, sometimes several fires in one
day. Because it's so stimulating for

them, there's an inner drive to do it.
They want to recapture that feeling

again.

By setting fires in a spree -like
fashion, the arsonist can also cause the

greatest amount of damage.

There was a fire set in another Always
Home Center store in the city of

Pasadena. That fire didn't really
ignite.

And investigators go out, and they look
at it, and they even find the device.

It was a device put in their
polyurethane foam that someone

was still smoking.

And that device was a cigarette that had
three matches attached to it by a

rubber band, and it was placed inside a
piece of folded...

the yellow -lined notepad paper.

And the concept of that device would be
once the cigarette was ignited, you

would have a time frame before it would
burn down enough to light the matches,

and the matches would in turn light the
yellow -lined paper.

And you'd need that amount of flame
before you'd be successful in igniting

To John, it was clear that the same
arsonist who set the fire at Ole's

in South Pasadena and killed... four
people, was telling investigators that,

hey, you missed me.

I'm going to do it again so that you see
it's an arson.

Orr was very, very good at fire
detection. Why?

That was his life.

It was part of him. It was all
-consuming for him.

Of course, his words fell on deaf ears.

In the two years that followed, there
would be more than 6 ,500 fires in

Southern California, causing more than
$20 million in damage. And nobody can

exactly how many of these fires were
accidental or are.

I was working at the Bakersfield Fire
Department as a fire investigator, and

had a call come in. It was a craft mart
store out in the southwest part of

Bakersfield.

I traveled out there, and my cruiser was
met at the front door by an engine

company captain that took me back to a
dry floral arrangement where the fire

started. When I looked over in the vent,
I saw what I knew to be an incendiary

device. It was three matches laying
close to a cigarette butt that had been

severely burned and some rubber band
-looking material.

Yellow line paper was laying in close
proximity to it. I carefully picked it

with a pair of tweezers and put it into
an evidence bag.

I had the manager bring me all of the
yellow line paper that he had in the

store, and I compared it with the yellow
line paper that I had obtained from the

bin, and none of it compared.

So that made me believe that the paper
had to come from the outside.

I was quite surprised whenever I found
that someone had intentionally done this

due to the time of day.

The store was busy, had employees in
there, had customers in there. I felt

this was someone that was very bold.

This person knew that he could walk in
there and do it without being detected.

I had the opportunity to interview the
manager and other employees at the craft

mart store to see if they'd seen anybody
suspicious or anything.

They hadn't really seen anybody or paid
any attention to anyone that was in the

store.

I was still conducting my interviews
when I received another call of a fire,

I thought, wow, this is a little
unusual. I'm having two large department

with fires in them. What could possibly
be going on here?

That's the second fire. There was one
lady that was working that had seen a

come in. He was a real handsome cowboy,
and she was watching him as he walked

around in the store. And he had
something in his hands, and apparently

taken her eye off him for a while.

Shortly after the cowboy left the store,
a fire broke out.

I got a call from the two investigators
that had been to the...

California Conference of Arson
Investigators up in Fresno.

The firefighters, they talk about their
work hunting arsonists or how they are

investigating different crimes.

On the last days of the conference,
there's a series of fires that take

All located along Highway 99, Fresno
being the first one, and that's where

conference was, and they had Tulare, and
then we had Bakersfield, and then they

seemed to stop.

So now I'm thinking this could very well
be the person that attended the

conference.

Just a gut instinct I had, the fireman
was setting these fires. There's a

fireman that attended that conference in
Fresno who's lighting fires on his way

home to Bakersfield or Los Angeles.

One of the fire investigators that was
there, he called me and says, hey, I'm

going to tell you something that's going
to knock your socks off.

Welcome back to Very Scary People.

After a series of mysterious fires break
out near an arson investigator's

convention, investigator Marvin Casey
has a hunch. He thinks someone in the

firefighting community who attended the
conference set the fires.

He has one critical piece of evidence, a
scrap of yellow -lined notepaper that

was part of the incendiary device.

He thinks this could be key to
identifying the fire starter.

Marvin Casey sends it out to a lab.

They dust it, and they find out that,
hey, there's a fingerprint on this piece

of paper.

Well, this is great. I mean, they've got
a fingerprint that they can link to a

device that started an arson fire in
Bakersfield.

They ran their print through the
National Crime Index. It's an index that

put everybody's fingerprints in.
Everybody that's ever done anything

nationwide. The guy didn't have a
criminal record. There was no hit on him

make a match.

Marvin Casey was disappointed, but he
didn't give up. I obtained a roster from

the conference in Fresno, which was
attended by 250 fire investigators,

insurance agents, and people like that.

I got my California map, and I traced it
down and put indicators showing where

the fires had started. They had to be
traveling alone because arson is really

secretive crime.

I narrowed it down to 55 individuals
that was traveling down Highway 99

from the convention to the Southern
California area.

What Marvin does is he offers the ATF
the names of 55 firefighters and a

fingerprint and says, if you put this
all together, you're probably going to

find a serial arsonist.

And they looked at the roster and said
55 men. I really don't think we can work

that many.

I was disappointed, but I still couldn't
get it out of my head.

I continued to work the theory, and
finally, the fire marshal that I was

for said, you know, put this on the back
burner, you know, you beat this horse

to death.

For the next two years, fires continued
to pop up all over California, but none

were connected to the 1987 fire spree.

It turns out there's a conference taking
place in Pacific Grove where a group of

firefighters get together. It's just off
the coast of San Francisco area. All

fire investigators get together and
they're discussing the fires in

and how we were going to approach it in
the future.

One of the fire investigators that was
there, he called me and said, hey, I'm

going to tell you something that's going
to knock your socks off.

There was other fires that had occurred
during that convention, like someone had

just left the convention, was going back
to Southern California, traveling down

101, and setting the fire in a different
town.

This is very eerily similar to what
happened just two years earlier.

This, to me, seemed like it was the same
M .O. that had happened in 87.

These fires were during business hours
when people were in the store shopping.

After I'd received information that
there had been fire going down Highway

I pulled my map back out that I had used
in 87 that I had identified as a person

traveling down 99. I knew that it had to
be someone from Southern California

because that's the way the map was
indicating.

So he asked organizers for a list of
names, who attended this conference.

And he gets that list and compares it to
the one that he had two years earlier.

Then I put the two together and compared
them, and I came up then with ten

names, ten people that attended both
conferences.

And on these ten names is the name of a
firefighter who's probably responsible

for some of these fairly significant
arson.

Then I recontacted ATF, and I said,
listen, I've got it down to ten names.

we work with ten names? They said, yes,
I believe we can.

So I sent the 10 names up to them, and
they were to compare the fingerprint.

They run the names in the fingerprint,
and there's no match to any of these

firefighters in that fingerprint.

I was starting to think, you know, well,
maybe this will never be solved.

I'd taken a lot of gut from all these
guys. They just didn't want to believe

that it was one of our own that was
setting fires.

I was probably the only one that
suspected it, that believed it.

June 1990 was an unusual fire season.

The fires had begun in spots all over
California, and it stretched the

of local fire departments pretty thin.

We had Santa Ana winds blowing.

High winds blowing out of the hills are
what moves most of our fires in

California.

You have dry, tender, hot conditions,
and then winds that can sometimes get up

into the 50s. It's a perfect playground
for an arsenal because you add a match,

and now you've got havoc.

On June 27, I went to my doctor's, and
when I was coming back, right on the

hillside, the weeds, they were so dry.

It gave me a creepy feeling. I don't
know why that feeling came to me. I

if somebody put a match to that weed, it
would just burn.

We live in a two -story family home.

College Hills is a residential area of
Glendale, nestled in a foothill

region of the San Gabriel Mountains.

I saw a very thick smoke, and I realized
the fire is in our

street, right below us.

At about 3 o 'clock, 3 .30 in the
afternoon, there was a report of a fire

area that had experienced a few fires
before, right off of a busy thoroughfare

in the middle of town.

And by the time I arrived at the scene,
the fire had ripped up a hill, included

about five acres, involved two or three
homes.

That fire advanced up that hill pretty
darn quick.

And it escalated because the Santa Ana
winds were blowing.

There's a house burning and another
house burning, and there's smoke in the

and you can feel the flames.

The fire was so intense and the winds
were so strong.

It jumped an eight -lane freeway.

Everybody start evacuating now.

My husband.

He came to our street. He was blocked.
And right in front of his eyes,

a house exploded onto people.

And fortunately, at that time, he saw a
woman, an officer, and asked, go to

my house and tell my wife, just get out,
get out of the house.

Right now, when I'm thinking back, it
makes me very emotional.

After these women told us just get out,
get out of the house, I pulled the car

from the garage. I drove down the
street. I remember smoke. It was thick

And the whole street was covered with
crisscross fire hoses.

We went to the shopping center and we
just watched the fires on

the hills and seeing.

The houses that they were exploding like
firecrackers.

It was just surreal.

At around 7 .30, 8 o 'clock, they put
the fire out.

The fire destroyed or damaged
approximately 67 homes in this College

community. It was very emotional that I
saw that our house was saved.

It was the largest fire in the city of
Glendale's history.

To this day, I can't believe that no one
died in the College Hills fire.

It amazes me that all those people were
able to get out of there.

It was a miracle.

But the circumstances surrounding this
fire seem suspicious.

John Orr is the Glendale fire captain,
and in this case, this fire, the College

Hills fire, is now happening in his
city.

John's adamant that this fire is arson.
He walks out into the middle of the

field and picks up a lighter.

He tells the other investigators that,
well, here, we found the cause of this

fire, and it happened right here. It's
this lighter.

He was uncanny about his ability to find
these incendiary devices.

We have some very good leads.

John had great relationships with
reporters.

And he recognized that the local media
would be a pretty good way to advance

investigation. By saying, listen, this
is an arson fire.

We're looking for a serial arsonist.
Some of the evidence matches up with

individual and ties him into the fires.

We don't have an identity on him.

There was all kinds of witnesses to the
College Hills fire. In one case... A

woman describes having a man come to her
door and say, hey, did you know there's

a fire in your backyard?

And, of course, this is before she can
smell anything or see anything.

And, again, within seconds, he's gone,
and suddenly the fire's going.

One of the witnesses sees a white Chevy
Blazer right at the point of origin.

In the investigation of this fire, John
was put in charge of a tip line.

And so...

As the active investigator, all the tips
on this fire, anybody that saw anything

that had to do with it had to call this
tip line, and John vetted all the tips.

In late 1990 and going into 91, there's
an epidemic of fires that are happening

in retail stores all over L .A.

In each of these fires, there's a device
that's very similar, and that device

was a relatively simple design but very
effective, a cigarette.

It had three matches attached to it by a
rubber band, and it was placed inside a

piece of folded yellow -lined notepad
paper.

On March 27th of 1991, I learned that
the L .A. Sheriff's Arson Unit had

responded to a large commercial fire in
the South Bay area of Los Angeles. Later

that same day, I got a briefing from the
investigators that responded to the

scene, and by that time, they learned
that... It wasn't just one fire.

There had actually been three fires in
the same area, and in each one of those

fires, it started in pillows or foam
products.

Clearly, the conclusion was that we had
a serial offender who had started those

fires, and we decided that it would be
prudent to form a task force, and our

goal was to start visiting all of the
local smaller jurisdictions in the

Los Angeles area.

and see if they had had any fires that
met that same MO.

Within days, we were able to identify
close to 30 fires in Los Angeles over a

four -month period from December through
March.

The device is obviously a signature, but
the MO goes beyond that.

We noticed that the fires were fairly
close to freeway on and off ramp.

access, which would allow the
perpetrator easy ingress from the fire

fires were all set in either hardware
stores or fashion -type stores, stores

that would have polyurethane foam in
them. And that is really the connection

between these fabric stores and hardware
stores.

The fact that these fires were being
started in the middle of the day in

businesses where there's customers was
obvious to us that there's a large

of loss of life if we didn't solve this
case soon.

Now that the task force is established,
the lead investigators need to meet with

arson investigators in Los Angeles.

The treasurer of the association, John
Orr, was well known to myself and others

as the arson investigator for the city
of Glendale.

and we hoped that maybe he had some
information to share.

After the meeting ended, our
investigator got approached in a parking

California State Fire Marshal, and he
says, I have to talk to you. I didn't

to say anything in the open meeting.

We think a fireman might be responsible,
and we should be careful about what we

say in front of this group.

He said we had the exact same scenario
in 1987 in Fresno.

This is Tulare and Bakersfield, and they
had in fact recovered a yellow line

paper, cigarette, and match device from
one of those fires.

Seems to be an exact match with the
device you recovered.

You need to talk to Marv Casey, the
arson investigator for the city of

Bakersfield. I get a call from the Los
Angeles guys, and they want to come up

and take a look at the yellow line paper
that had the fingerprint.

It was run against every fingerprint
stored for any possible reason in the

system. So it was not only people that
were arrested for crimes, but also

that had their fingerprints taken for
any purpose, whether it be a law

enforcement officer or a fire service.

About three days after a phone call came
in from the sheriff's lab, he says, you

got John Orr's fingerprints on it.

First thing they did was call me and
tell me, you know, You tell John Orr to

quit touching that evidence. I said, he
was nowhere around when I investigated

that fire. What are you talking about?

It made no sense that his prints should
be on a device from Bakersfield.

I knew John personally. I've worked
cases with him, worked on investigations

with him.

I've taken arson scene investigation
training with him. He's trusted as one

us.

I thought it could be somebody just
messing with the fire guys that were up

there for the conference. They're trying
to tantalize or to torture or torment

the fire investigators, say, catch me if
you can.

How could it be one of our own? The
arsonist would remain on the loose, and

had no intention of stopping.

In the meantime, suspicious fires
continued to pop up all over southern

central California.

Eventually, the fire is going to grow
enough that someone's not going to be

to escape.

We could not allow that to happen.

Will investigators be able to catch the
elusive arsonist before he strikes

again? Could the person starting these
fires really be one of their own?

An arson expert?

A firefighter? Someone sworn to save
lives?

The shocking conclusion in part two of
The Fire Starter.

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

Thanks for watching.

Good night.

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