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I couldn't live without comedy.
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What is the point if you can't laugh
every day and hopefully several times a
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day? Fawlty Towers is an all -time
comedy classic.
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When I was growing up, Fawlty Towers was
up there.
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Keeping the nation in hysterics for 50
years.
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Do we think that's classic Fawlty
Towers?
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I do. I'm going to say yes.
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I think one of the things that makes
Fawlty Towers brilliant is John Cleese.
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He's the master.
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It's a quintessential slice of old
-world Englishness at a time of immense
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change. The 70s were a funny time.
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It was a time where Britain was very
much changing.
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Immensely, immensely a wonderful
programme.
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A great British farce that was almost
canned before it began.
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Well, the terrible feedback came back,
and yet it still airs. That's BBC, isn't
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it, though? But it's now more
controversial than ever, with the BBC
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some scenes.
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Racism and sexism, whoo! It was
offensive to everyone. The bottom line
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not acceptable.
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So is it still funny?
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We can't say anything these days.
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Despite all of the head slapping and
goose slapping.
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To try and cut it out and replace it
would just be cutting up a piece of
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comedy history.
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We've assembled a group of baby boomers
and Gen Zs who are joined by an expert
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panel to help guide us through this
British classic.
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They'll be watching it back through the
lens of today and yesteryear to see if
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there really should be the cancellation
of Fawlty Towers.
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It's 9 p .m. on Friday, 19th of
September, 1975, and the nation is
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for the East.
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It's an altogether simpler time.
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A time when we would sit down in unison,
turn on the box and soak up what was
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being served to us.
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BBC Two.
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Hello again. Good evening to you.
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Now time for a new sitcom.
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Pack your bag and let's stick in.
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The 40 Towers.
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That episode became quite famous for his
beating the car. It's quintessentially
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Basil. Basil Fawlty is a man at odds
with the modern world, getting very
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at an Austin countryman on a rainy
street in a country where the cars never
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to work anymore.
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That is a scene that stuck in my head
for decades.
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I think the beauty of Basil Fawlty
personifying the car, he basically spoke
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it. He's just like, if you don't start
in the next three seconds, right, that's
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it. That's it. We've all been there.
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Ha, ha, ha.
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Ha,
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ha, ha.
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Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha,
ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha,
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ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha,
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ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha,
ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha,
ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha,
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ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha,
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ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I want you. I
love this scene. I really do. This
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makes me laugh so much, doesn't it, you?
When he thrashes the car, that to me is
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the apex of Basil Fawlty's character and
his comedy.
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I think we can relate to that. When
we're frustrated, I think probably,
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Maybe not batting your own car.
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That's a bit extreme, but you just get a
bit frustrated and you try to act out.
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You can see his frustration just
absolutely boils over.
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I think he's quite funny.
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Like, he's just this tall man shouting
at his car in the middle of, like, a
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rainy British street. Yeah, I think
that's... Who would have thought it? The
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Zs actually like it. But that was
something that everybody could enjoy at
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age.
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We've given both the Gen Zs and the Baby
Boomers a service spell to ring their
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approval and a kipper if they think
something stinks.
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So, what do they think so far? I would
do that, Belle.
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It's up in the top three, isn't it? I
love that. I really do.
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Definitely. So funny.
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Oh, that's about it.
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Remarkably, the Baby Boomers and the Gen
Zs actually see eye to eye.
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For the Baby Boomers, by the mid -1970s,
John Cleese's comedy was a staple in
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British households.
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I look down on him because I am upper
class.
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I look up to him. But much like
Gleason's class sketch, there can be a
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difference between the baby boomer and
the Gen Zs.
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I am middle class. I'm a baby boomer.
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I look down on Gen Z and modern society,
and I think everybody is far too
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sensitive these days.
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I'm Gen Z, and I look up at baby boomers
and think they're all stuck in the
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path.
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The past is 50 years ago now, and
Britain in 1975 is going through a bit
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rough time.
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There were three -day weeks, collapsing
governments, kidnappings, and bombings.
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Then a vote for stronger ties with
Europe meant more Germans in more
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hotels. There were plenty of people
going, yes, we are open to this, and
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welcome, welcome to our island.
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And welcome to Torquay.
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and a tiny part of Little Britain called
Fawlty Towers, a place where nothing
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has really changed and where everyone
still acts like Britain rules the waves.
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The only image I have of Torquay in the
70s is Fawlty Towers.
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I've never been to Torquay. I think it's
become a pillar for how British society
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was seen and satirised back in that
period of time. You've got characters
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represent social types.
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Joining Car Thrashing Hotelier Basil
Forty are a memorable range of
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It's a bit where the Major walks past
with a gun and Fawlty takes a second to
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clock it. That's classic slapstick.
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It's a huge amount of the actual laugh.
It's not the thing, it's the reaction to
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the thing. The Major was the voice of
old. He was the pre -war voice. He was
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person that would come in and say things
to show that even 1970s Torquay wasn't
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like that anymore.
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But did anybody find it weird that the
Major seemed to live there?
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In the 1970s, when there wasn't really
the same social care that there is now,
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lot of retired people would actually
just take to hotels and live in hotels.
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Then there are the staff who conspire
against each other.
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I've gone blank.
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Bird brain.
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No, no, no, that came in third.
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This wife.
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What?
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Polly gets into a total mess about it.
And they make that into a real dramatic
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comic episode.
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It's quite wonderful.
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Polly is the most sensible character in
the hotel.
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She's the most capable.
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If she was in another comedy, I think
they would have her in a thing with
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of cleavage and she'd be a dolly bird
and she'd just be an idiot and all that
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stuff. No, she's the smart one. She's
the clever one.
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Accompanying Polly is the hotel's
waiter.
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I know Nazi.
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What? I know Nazi. The physicality of
Andrew Sachs is great. I think his vocal
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delivery is great. John Cleese was
making a comic point about what was
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in Britain.
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There were a lot of people who came to
do exactly the work that Manuel was
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at Falsy Towers.
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And finally, the hoteliers themselves.
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Firstly, Basil's wife, Sybil.
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Would you like to deal with this, Basil?
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So you see, we couldn't possibly manage
it for at least three weeks. But if you
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wanted us straight away, I suggest you
try someone like, oh, what's his name?
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It's O 'Reilly.
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Bravo, Polly. Well done, girl. But
listen, where are you speaking from?
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here with me, Basil.
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Very, very good physical comedy, and
also with the character of Sybil, who
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know is eventually going to find out
everything, because it's in the nature
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Sybil, but she always does find out
about everything.
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But the idea that they're getting won
over on Sybil is very well done.
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And, of course, Battle himself.
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Thank you, dear. Thank you so much.
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I don't know where I'd be without you.
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Land of the living, probably.
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It really establishes their... dynamic
between the two of them how she's going
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to tell him what to do and how to do it
he's quite a depressed character really
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he talks about how everything's
pointless and how you know do you
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we have fun it's a satire of an old
-fashioned world in chaos and decline
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more you understand about history the
better you are placed to parody satirize
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everything that's happening
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So what was happening in 1970s Torquay?
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There's an origin story here, right?
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The radioactive spider bite moment is
when they're making Monty Python and
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stay in this hotel in Torquay.
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Impressive, Doc.
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Never before has Basil Fawlty been
compared to Spider -Man.
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The establishment in question was the
Glen Eagles Hotel, which was ideally
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located when Monty Python and the Flying
Circus was filming in nearby Paynton.
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Talking which was very refined, you
know, very conservative and all of that.
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You'd expect to have good service and
very polite.
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Genteel. Genteel is the word.
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But not in this hotel.
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They get this incredibly rude hotelier.
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Who was grumpy and unhelpful and...
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Obviously such an unpleasant but
interesting character.
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Mr. Grampy was a formal naval officer
and now hotelier called Donald Sinclair.
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Most of the Monty Python cast checked
out early to find somewhere with better
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service, but not Connie Booth and John
Cleese. They stayed on and started to
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study him, so that's where the germ of
Basil came from.
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Well, I must be punished then, mustn't
I?
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He starts hitting himself on the bum,
which, you know, to watch a man, six
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five, hitting himself, particularly in
that weird, ill -fitting jacket that
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wearing at the time, sort of somehow
heightens the comedy of that. We were
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staying in this hotel in Torquay, and
this guy behind the desk, who's now
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fortunately gone to Canada to relieve
certain legal problems, fascinated me,
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just because the guests were a nuisance.
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And when Connie and I wanted to write
something about five years later...
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We sat down one morning, and by about
half past eleven, we knew we were going
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write about this hotel.
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But before they wrote Fawlty Towers,
Cleese wrote an episode of Doctor at
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called No Ill Feeling, and gave the
impatient hotelier character a trial
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Name? Upton.
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Doctor! What?
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Yeah, all right. I mean, Upton.
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Mr. Upton.
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Well, Doctor, it doesn't matter.
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It's not anything like as good as Fawlty
Towers.
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I think one of the things is the
character of Doctor at Large is no
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He's just rude.
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He's not as low and middle class as
Basil. He's more working class. He
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got this kind of affected accent that
Basil has.
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So the snobbery that drives a lot of
Basil's mania is not there. But sprinkle
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bit more comedy over the rudeness. Add a
little snobbery and, of course, John
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Cleese. And... Would you put both your
names, please?
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Well, would you give me a date?
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No, I only use one.
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You don't have a first name.
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No, I'm Lord Melbury, so I simply sign
Melbury.
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Go away.
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The phone is quite a good comic device
in Fawlty Towers, and it's used really
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well in this scene.
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Fawlty Towers is one of the best, and it
is because everything about it is so
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intensely comedic. And he suddenly
realises he's talking to aristocracy,
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he's such a snob.
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A lot of the humour came from the fact
that Battle Co -Towers to anyone with
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status, and used everyone with regards
to their class.
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Basil Fultz is obviously going to be a
sycophant, isn't he, to anyone who comes
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in. And I think that the class structure
was even more defined back in the 70s
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than it would be now. He is somebody
who's very conscious of his position in
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class system. So anybody he considers
above him, he will fawn over.
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Now, is there something, something,
anything that I can do for you?
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Well, I have filled this in. Oh, please
don't bother with that.
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A special room? A single? A double? A
sweet?
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Well, we don't have any tweets, but we
have some beautiful doubles. Oh, no, no,
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no, just a single. Just a single,
absolutely.
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How very wise, if I may say to you, Your
Honour. You win a bar?
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Naturally, naturally.
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Naturellement.
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I'm not too sure that there are many
people who could deliver lines like
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Fawlty, like John Cleese.
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But Cleese and Booth are about to do the
most shocking thing yet.
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You would no way be able to hear that
today.
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In the 1970s, Fawlty Towers was a huge
hit, but one episode in particular was
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the most controversial ever.
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It's only a bit of comedy, though.
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How bad can it be?
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Well, it turns out to be really bad.
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Some of the language in the next scene
is so offensive, it's rarely broadcast,
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given today's standards.
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And the strange thing was that
throughout the morning, she kept
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Indians, isn't it?
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I was not expecting that.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, I said.
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That was a hard watch.
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The unsayable racial slurs are the W
word and what is often referred to now
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the N word. I must have been keen on it
because I took her to see India.
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India? At the Oval.
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India? And in fact, it was India playing
cricket at the Oval.
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None of them really understands the true
meaning of what they're saying. And
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that's funny.
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That's what makes it funny.
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No, no, no, no, no, I said.
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These are the West Indians.
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These people are... You would no way be
able to hear that today.
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How uncomfortable was that, watching
that? Well, it was...
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I was trying to understand why it was
funny.
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No, no, no, she said, all cricketers
aren't... There's a lot of words in
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that nowadays people go, we were a
little bit, I think. I think it's quite
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shocking, to be fair. For those type of,
like, dormancy terms just to be used on
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TV like that, it just makes it more
acceptable.
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It's a bit too much. In those days, it
was funny.
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And it still is funny to me.
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But, you know, it just wouldn't...
People would be reporting it like they
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We can't say things like that.
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I'm going to give that a kippah.
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I would definitely say kippah.
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Like, derogatory terms, I just thought
it was not funny at all.
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And I'd be controversial and just give
it the bell, because from a comedy
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perspective, it does make me chuckle.
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And for me to say to give it the kippah,
I think I wouldn't be telling the
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truth.
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The major controversial use of the N
-word has divided the generations.
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And it also is a reflection of what you
could get away with.
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back during the 70s, which is a sad
indictment of media back then as well. I
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mean, it was of its time, and I think if
somebody doesn't enjoy watching it,
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they don't need to watch it.
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But how was it ever OK to even say that
on British TV?
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Well, it almost never made it past the
pilot stage.
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Connie and John wrote Fawlty Towers
together, which famously took them
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six weeks for each episode, due to them
refining the plots and maximising the
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comedy.
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But at the time, not everyone saw the
potential.
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BBC script editor Ian Mayne was handed
the pilot script and promptly sent back
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rather scathing response.
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I think this is another classic story,
really. Somebody sees the first episode.
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It's not what they're expecting, and so
they write it off.
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They can't see the obvious value in it.
Other comments from execs questioned why
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it was all set in one place. And why
would he leave Monty Python for this?
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I love the fact that all of these
terrible things came back, all this
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feedback came back, and yet it still
aired.
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That's BBC, isn't it, though?
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And look, 50 years later, I guarantee
somewhere they're taking credit for it.
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Yeah, that was my idea.
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I put that on.
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Just brilliant.
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Nevertheless, on 19th of September 1975,
Fawlty Towers aired for the first time,
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and the laughter began even before the
action did, with this iconic theme tune.
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They very much loved music, and the
accompanying hotel sign soon became a
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talking point. You used to love those
anagrams, didn't you?
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I like that.
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I like that.
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I think that's clever. I like that. And
it's something fun every week. If you're
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watching the show every Friday night,
you can be like, oh, did you spot it and
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see what it was? I think that's quite
fun.
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You always imagine there was some band
or somebody who had a thing against
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coming by the sign every week and
changing it.
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That kind of feeling to it. Yeah, yeah.
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Some of those I remember, like, howling
with laughter.
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Flowery twats is one of the few pure
anagrams. Like, every letter used, it's
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perfect anagram.
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Flowery twats. You would never say that
in front of your parents.
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You know?
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There are one or two that would sneak in
there, which are...
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Quite naughty, actually.
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I just feel like that's such a British
thing to say. Like, no one else really
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says twat. And, I don't know, that
tickled me.
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People don't realise how obscene the
word twat is, actually. It's another
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for... basically.
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Shush! Don't tell the Gen Zs that, Prof.
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They're just starting to enjoy it.
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A little bit like The Simpsons.
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Every opening is different. I think they
had a different sign for every episode.
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Which was quite fun. It has that magical
attraction.
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And that is what's so great about it,
and that is what made it as famous as it
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is. A sitcom lives or dies by how
memorable its theme tune is. And if you
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sing to it, then, I'm sorry, just cancel
the whole show.
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The question is, do our discerning
viewers agree?
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Yeah, I would give the other guns a bow.
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That's really a bow for me. What do you
think?
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Yeah.
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Once into the action, the fast -paced
farce is driven by Cleese's character,
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Basil.
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Farces are theatrical form, originally,
and farces are kind of manic comedies,
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really, where there's high stakes.
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They're built on tension and things
going wrong.
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It wasn't just a farce, because we'd
seen farces before and loved them. Just
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much more than anything we'd seen
before.
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I think John Cleese is probably one of
the funniest people that you'd meet.
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And the plot's often centered around
Basil's fear of his wife Sybil and his
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desire to elevate the standing of the
hotel.
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You really wonder how in calmer times
the relationship between Basil and Sybil
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could ever work. He gets the last laugh
because the idiot that he is landed
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Sybil. She's the idiot that married him.
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Like, in that regard, he's the genius.
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He married a woman that keeps his hotel
afloat.
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Their encounters have the audience in
stitches.
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But does the portrayal of Basil and
Siddle's relationship stand the test of
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time? Or is it downright sexist?
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Basil. Yes, dear?
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Are you going to hang the picture? Yes,
ma 'am, dear. Yes, yes.
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Wait. Well, when I've, when I've, hmm?
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Well, why don't you do it now? Well, I'm
doing this, dear. I'm doing the menu.
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Well, you've got all morning to do the
menu. Why don't you hang the picture
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I like their dynamics, like, as a
couple.
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I think that it's believable.
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I think that's very realistic of a
couple at the time.
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Like, I enjoyed that. Yeah.
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Well? Yes, all right, I will do the
menu. I don't think you've realised how
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it takes to do the menu, but no, it
doesn't matter. I'll hang the picture
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If the menu's late for lunch, it doesn't
matter. The guests can all come and
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look at the picture until they are
ready, right?
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Lower.
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That's a typical Basil and Sybil
exchange, isn't it?
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She knows what she wants and he knows
what he wants, but he always has to give
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in in the most.
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I do wonder, why isn't she doing the
menu?
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What does she do?
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Like, what does she do?
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Maybe she is the smart one for marrying
him.
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She gets a whole hotel and doesn't do
anything.
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Oh, we'll have to re -watch that.
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The nagging wife routine wasn't just a
one -trick pony.
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Or should there be... A one -trick
moose.
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Yes, Fawlty Towers, hello.
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I was just doing it, you stupid woman. I
just put it down to come here to be
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reminded by you to do what I'm already
doing. I mean, what is the point of
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reminding me to do what I'm already
doing? I mean, what is the bloody point?
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doing it all the time.
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Because of their dynamic, like, you can
see through their acting that it's like,
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they still love each other, like,
it's... Like, it's banter. But it's just
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really giving the idea that the wife is
so annoying.
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I think they're trying to, like,
normalise the type of relationship. I
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find the humour in it at all.
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But many viewers did find the humour,
and the moose will forever be associated
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with Fawlty Towers.
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Mr Moose is up!
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It's done, done, done!
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It's up!
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He went much, much further than he
needed to go. But it showed, you know,
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dedicated he was to making it as
realistic as possible.
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And at the same time, as comic as
possible.
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Sybil wouldn't be the sort of person to
stay in that relationship if she didn't
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love him. She'd just have walked. I
mean, she's far too strong a woman.
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great to have a strong woman like that.
She'd just have walked.
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But Sybil wasn't the only female lead.
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Connie Booth played aspiring artist and
hotel maid Polly.
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Polly's a point -of -view character.
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She's the most reasonable character in
the entire sitcom.
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It was very much a comedy cliché of the
straight -laced wife and the bitter
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fluff. Women very often were portrayed
on television as a pair of boobs on
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in a way.
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Women weren't exactly divided between
those two, but in very broad terms, they
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were very recognisable characters.
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Polly's character on the whole wasn't
sexualised apart from perhaps in one
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scene.
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That
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was
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the only time in the series that I can
remember where you ever saw Polly.
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with that sort of dress code.
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Well done, Nick. You managed to safely
navigate that.
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Doing it in the 21st century in the
context of today, there would be people
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would find that offensive and think, oh,
yes, as a woman, she's being
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objectified. But then... I think what
they're doing is challenging the
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attitudes that were held towards women
and the way that women were perceived.
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One other thing, Polly, I'm afraid we've
abandoned the idea of the topless
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afternoon tea, so if you wouldn't mind a
changing before you go in where people
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may be trying to eat.
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I was going to.
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There's no objectification of women
going on here because the whole of
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Towers is about caricatures and
stereotypes.
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To be fair, she's putting herself in
that situation to be sexualised while
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doing her job.
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Hello, 40 titties.
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When he answers the phone and says, oh,
40 titties, you realise that he too has
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fallen for the whole situation.
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And that's the brilliance of the comedy
there.
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But Basil doesn't just push his start
button.
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He's not about grabbing a few things
either.
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Like in this creepy scene. Just turn
left out of the gate and straight on,
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it's on your right.
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It's choreographed so perfectly.
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I mean, it is offensive when you look at
it, but in a way, in those days, it
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didn't give offence because it was just,
it all flowed and seemed so natural.
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I've read about it, Basil, the male
menopause, it's called.
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Oh, and one word of advice, if you're
going to grope a girl, have the
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to stay in the room with her while
you're doing it.
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This is a sort of brilliant line.
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If you're going to grope a girl, at
least be in the same room.
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That's so, so wonderful.
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Those two scenes were absolutely
typical.
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The hand coming round onto the bosom. It
wasn't as shocking then as it is now.
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Our generational viewers will be the
judge of that.
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I would say the bulk of it's very
typical relationship.
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I'll definitely give it a bow to
Jonathan. I thought that was probably
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funniest clip at all.
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Who was it that said this generation are
snowflakes?
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Coming up, we'll be taking a closer look
at Manuel.
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There are elements of the way that the
character of Manuel is handled that are
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uncomfortable today.
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And why did the BBC cancel one of the
episodes?
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I don't think it was right then, it's
not right now, and it never will be.
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In the 1970s, if you changed the
channel, the chances are it would be to
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sitcom. And they were lapped up by the
British audience.
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Well, some of the things were obviously
folded towers, but then we did, like,
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Till Death is Due Part and so on. Did
you find that funny? Yeah.
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I've gone it. Monty Python's really
good.
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Only Fools and Horses.
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I haven't seen Foddy Towers.
448
00:28:07,460 --> 00:28:12,899
Only Fools and Horses was actually 1981,
but that is still over 20 years before
449
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,440
these Gen Zs were born.
450
00:28:14,810 --> 00:28:16,150
That makes me feel very old.
451
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:18,850
I have an old people's bus bus now.
452
00:28:19,230 --> 00:28:21,350
Come on, you don't use the bus, Trevor.
453
00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:26,210
The very first series of Fawlty Towers
ran for six episodes.
454
00:28:26,410 --> 00:28:28,470
That was very nearly the end of it.
455
00:28:28,690 --> 00:28:33,149
For us, it was a relief because somehow,
I think, too, in the relationship of
456
00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:38,789
Civil and Basil, we were able to get out
a lot of our frustrations with each
457
00:28:38,790 --> 00:28:40,410
other through those characters.
458
00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:43,710
And it was a terrific time.
459
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,470
It's really good. It was kind of like
therapy.
460
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,440
Those frustrations never went away.
461
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:55,239
In 1978, Booth and Cleese divorced, and
Connie later said marriage counselling
462
00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,340
was crucial to them making a second
series, which later aired in 1979.
463
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:04,210
Twelve perfect episodes, and you can
watch them time and time again.
464
00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:07,290
You laugh every time. You laugh every
time at the same place.
465
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,640
One character that brought a lot of
those laughs is Manuel.
466
00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:14,530
You see, I... Speak English well.
467
00:29:14,790 --> 00:29:16,530
I learn it from a book.
468
00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:19,670
Hello. I am English.
469
00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:21,350
Manuel is lovable.
470
00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:23,110
He's an adorable character.
471
00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:27,450
When I was watching it as a kid, I used
to absolutely identify with Manuel.
472
00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:32,190
The portrayal of that character, though,
by Andrew Sack, was brilliant.
473
00:29:32,650 --> 00:29:34,490
Of course, Manuel wasn't English.
474
00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:36,750
All together now.
475
00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:38,080
He's from Barcelona.
476
00:29:38,081 --> 00:29:39,109
From Barcelona.
477
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:41,230
I am Manuel. I am from Barcelona.
478
00:29:43,060 --> 00:29:46,610
He's hired the cheapest waiter he could
get, somebody from Barcelona.
479
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:50,900
And Andrew Sachs, the actor, was neither
Spanish nor English born.
480
00:29:50,901 --> 00:29:54,979
What's interesting about Andrew Sachs is
that he was actually born in Germany,
481
00:29:54,980 --> 00:29:58,960
and he came over right before the war as
a child and lived in England.
482
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,299
Sachs later became an actor in London's
West End, but he also appeared in
483
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:07,720
corporate training videos by a company
called Video Arts.
484
00:30:08,010 --> 00:30:09,830
Owned by John Cleese.
485
00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:13,090
Incredibly, he wasn't being paid enough
for Fawlty Towers.
486
00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:17,229
At the time, it wasn't uncommon for the
nation's biggest stars to get paid
487
00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:18,450
modest sums.
488
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:25,069
John Cleese has paid £6 ,000 in 1975 for
43 weeks' work, writing and performing
489
00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:27,310
in the first series of Fawlty Towers.
490
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:31,130
That's just over £63 ,000 in today's
money.
491
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:35,389
Oh, Mike, I've no... that you were
probably in the early stages of a severe
492
00:30:35,390 --> 00:30:36,440
nervous breakdown.
493
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:41,289
So I suggest a personal crisis meeting
this Friday at 4 .35 immediately
494
00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:44,000
following the regional sales figures
presentation.
495
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:47,830
How the film's work is that you see
characters being unreasonable.
496
00:30:47,831 --> 00:30:51,309
So you can sort of see, in a way, Fawlty
is a bit like a twist on that, isn't
497
00:30:51,310 --> 00:30:54,289
it? The fact that Cleese had this
company, Video Arts, where he was
498
00:30:54,290 --> 00:30:57,289
actors in to work with him and play
these comedic characters.
499
00:30:57,290 --> 00:31:01,189
would have made casting easier and i
adore people with problems in fact the
500
00:31:01,190 --> 00:31:04,889
worse the problem the more i adore them
video arts was brilliant because a
501
00:31:04,890 --> 00:31:09,389
corporate training video could be as dry
as a ditch water it must be very useful
502
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:14,649
for john and connie to see this array of
actors and say well look oh gosh she's
503
00:31:14,650 --> 00:31:21,109
fantastic or he's brilliant and be able
to give work to these budding stars i'd
504
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:26,659
been working with john cleves in the
early 70s on some training films for his
505
00:31:26,660 --> 00:31:27,710
company, Video Arts.
506
00:31:27,711 --> 00:31:31,599
And during the making of one of those
films, he brought up this pilot that
507
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,650
written for the BBC.
508
00:31:32,651 --> 00:31:34,819
And would I like to play the Spanish
waiter?
509
00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:37,999
I love the idea. Thank you, John. But
could you make him a German waiter?
510
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Because I'm not sure I can do a Spanish
accent.
511
00:31:40,361 --> 00:31:43,399
And I come from Germany. German's my
first language.
512
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,519
John Cleese said, no, no, it has to be a
Spaniard.
513
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,539
Which, again, with the number of digs
that he made at Manuel being from
514
00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:52,420
Barcelona, you go, where did that?
515
00:31:52,421 --> 00:31:54,899
Stereotype? What stereotype are you
playing on?
516
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:57,360
Ah, good question, Rio. I'm glad you
asked.
517
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,939
Spain experienced a huge wave of
immigration in the 1970s, particularly
518
00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:08,199
Barcelona. This was in part down to
General Franco, who ruled Spain as a
519
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,550
dictator after winning the Spanish Civil
War.
520
00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:15,799
I think it's significant because of
the... of the increase in the Spanish
521
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,160
population of British Isles at that
time.
522
00:32:18,161 --> 00:32:21,659
So I buckled down to it, mugged up the
accent on the way to the studio as it
523
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:23,420
were, and we got on with it.
524
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,899
John Cleese might have moaned about £6
,000, but Andrew Sachs only got £350 for
525
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:31,180
all 12 episodes.
526
00:32:31,181 --> 00:32:34,099
Andrew, this is definitely your role,
and he went, can we make it German? They
527
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:35,240
went, no, it's Spanish.
528
00:32:35,241 --> 00:32:38,279
And he goes, I'm not sure if I can do
Spanish, and they go, that's all right,
529
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,770
it's still your role. We're only going
to pay you £350 for 12 episodes.
530
00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:43,400
And he still went, OK.
531
00:32:44,010 --> 00:32:48,929
And for the British audience, the
language barrier made for some highly
532
00:32:48,930 --> 00:32:49,980
moments.
533
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:59,040
Throw it away.
534
00:32:59,270 --> 00:33:01,010
Okay. Throw it away.
535
00:33:01,310 --> 00:33:03,490
Throw it away. Throw it away.
536
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,540
English isn't his first language.
537
00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:15,980
That opens up the door to loads of
language gags.
538
00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:21,459
Throwing away the grapefruit is
brilliant because, yet again, Basil
539
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:22,510
himself understood.
540
00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:25,480
Manuel really trying but failing.
541
00:33:25,820 --> 00:33:30,400
And then the actual throw is genius
because it's a non -obvious throw.
542
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,340
It's not just down onto the floor.
543
00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:33,600
It's not at Basil.
544
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,320
It's just sideways.
545
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:39,340
Sideways! It's another angle to get a
laugh.
546
00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:43,730
You know, that throw it away, bang, hits
that kid on the head.
547
00:33:43,731 --> 00:33:46,689
I do think that situation was funny,
like, saying throw it away and he throws
548
00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:49,369
at the customers, like, because I've
waitressed before, if someone chucks
549
00:33:49,370 --> 00:33:53,069
something at a customer, that's funny,
like, we're going to laugh about it.
550
00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:54,830
But I know nothing, he thinks.
551
00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:56,100
I know nothing.
552
00:33:58,470 --> 00:34:02,789
Whilst Basil didn't seem to know
Spanish, Cleese and Booth did, which
553
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:05,090
them to write some of the best gags.
554
00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:12,350
Manuel, there is too much butter on
those trays.
555
00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:16,630
There is too much butter on those trays.
556
00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:20,850
No, no, no, senor. Not on those trays.
557
00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:23,510
Uno, dos, tres.
558
00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:26,290
It becomes this incredible wordplay.
559
00:34:26,630 --> 00:34:32,050
How they work that out, I don't know.
But it comes so fast. It's pure joy.
560
00:34:32,051 --> 00:34:35,859
What's brilliant about that is, yeah,
you need to kind of get that he's, say,
561
00:34:35,860 --> 00:34:39,219
one, two, three in Spanish to kind of
get the point of that gag.
562
00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:43,178
I mean, I think Cleese and Booth are
really, really good at writing language
563
00:34:43,179 --> 00:34:47,760
gags. So I think the best example would
be Mrs. Richards and Manuel.
564
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:52,319
I specifically asked for a few of you in
my written confirmation, so please make
565
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,370
sure I have it.
566
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,370
Que?
567
00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:59,460
Que? Que?
568
00:34:59,860 --> 00:35:00,910
Si. Si.
569
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:02,950
Casey.
570
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Casey, what are you trying to say?
571
00:35:05,580 --> 00:35:06,720
K? C.
572
00:35:06,721 --> 00:35:08,059
C. K.
573
00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:10,900
What? No, K. What? C. K. What? Is that
the owner?
574
00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:12,580
That's fantastic writing.
575
00:35:12,581 --> 00:35:13,999
Mrs. Richards, fantastic.
576
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,050
She was wonderful.
577
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:18,440
She was just... She was just fantastic.
578
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,100
No, no, no, no. K.
579
00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:21,470
What? K.
580
00:35:21,471 --> 00:35:22,499
What? C.
581
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:23,550
K. What?
582
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:25,240
C. K. What? C. K. What? Yes.
583
00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:27,620
Who is C. K. What?
584
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,640
K. Is it the manager?
585
00:35:29,641 --> 00:35:30,979
Oh,
586
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:33,220
manager. He is! Ah, Mr Forty!
587
00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:35,660
What? Forty! It's clever.
588
00:35:35,661 --> 00:35:39,419
Like, the plots are clever, and the
character writing's clever, and the
589
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:40,560
physicality's clever.
590
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,660
The wordplay is also clever.
591
00:35:42,661 --> 00:35:46,039
He's not explaining himself correctly,
and he's misunderstanding what he's
592
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,759
saying anyway.
593
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,650
So I think the joke's on both of them,
so I'll give it a bell.
594
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,340
Yeah, it's a bell. Bell, bell.
595
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:53,550
Bell, mate.
596
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,540
But Basil's frustrations with
communicating with Manuel often led to
597
00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:01,470
This, Basil's wife.
598
00:36:01,790 --> 00:36:02,840
This, Basil.
599
00:36:02,970 --> 00:36:04,050
This, back on head.
600
00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:07,830
It's comedy violence.
601
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:10,740
It's like cartoon violence. It's like
Tom and Jerry.
602
00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:12,030
People don't get hurt.
603
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:13,990
My Ralph, let me explain.
604
00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:21,409
In Laurel and Hardy, in every episode,
there was that kind of scenario where
605
00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:23,650
there was a slap or a kick. It's
classic.
606
00:36:24,030 --> 00:36:25,080
Or a poke in the eye.
607
00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:27,410
And it made me laugh, and I viewed that.
608
00:36:27,411 --> 00:36:31,149
There, no different than I viewed Laura
and Holly. They're not actually hurt,
609
00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:35,450
but the joke comes across. His
frustration, what he's doing, but it's
610
00:36:35,530 --> 00:36:38,000
You know they're not actually hurt, so
it's okay.
611
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:42,589
What would a generation more used to
duvet days than working from home make
612
00:36:42,590 --> 00:36:43,640
this?
613
00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:46,920
It's just like internalising that the
kind of violence is okay.
614
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:50,930
I love a bit of slapstick, but that
feels really harmful.
615
00:36:51,130 --> 00:36:52,310
I didn't enjoy that.
616
00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:56,870
It wasn't just the violence Manuel was
subjected to.
617
00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:11,699
There's a lot of the use of the word
Dago, which even in those days was
618
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:15,020
demeaning. It's the corruption of the
name Diego.
619
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:21,719
So it's just the name Diego uttered
simply as Dago. It probably has its
620
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:26,380
frequency of usage in faulty powers,
actually. I don't think of many other.
621
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960
TV sitcoms actually use the term very
much.
622
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,820
I think he's really unfortunate.
623
00:37:32,260 --> 00:37:34,840
And why was Manuel so, well,
624
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,099
Spanish? The awareness of stereotypes
was always going to be there, but there
625
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:44,139
was probably less of an awareness of how
harmful it could be to portray those
626
00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:48,219
stereotypes. In this one, the joke is,
like, purely on him. You're supposed to
627
00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:51,999
laugh at him for being a Spanish
immigrant who doesn't speak the
628
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,959
think he does have an exaggerated
foreigner.
629
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,010
I loved Manuel.
630
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,880
I really love Manuel. I can't stress
that enough.
631
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,239
But I do think that there are elements
of the way that the character of Manuel
632
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,280
is handled that are uncomfortable today.
633
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,759
The Brits would be very condescending
towards the Spanish. That was the kind
634
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,740
arrogant way that, in general, that the
British felt towards foreigners.
635
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:19,170
Because we speak English, and if they
don't understand English, well, you
636
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:23,120
what's wrong with them, sort of thing,
which is completely unjustified.
637
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,920
It's like belittling him, just making it
seem like people that are foreigners,
638
00:38:27,921 --> 00:38:31,579
quote -unquote, because they don't
understand, they don't comprehend stuff,
639
00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:37,020
they're slow, they're just there, and
the English people are kind of superior.
640
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:42,379
It was clever in that it highlighted the
British attitude, which is archaic when
641
00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:46,320
you think about it, that somehow just
because we spoke English we were
642
00:38:46,321 --> 00:38:50,019
I've hoped the wider audience would see
that that wasn't supposed to happen.
643
00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:53,980
Well... What do our audience think? I'll
definitely give it a clip on it.
644
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,060
If somebody says something and it's
funny and it doesn't make no sense, you
645
00:38:59,061 --> 00:39:00,299
don't worry, from Barcelona.
646
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:03,370
And people still, when they
misunderstand things, say, pay.
647
00:39:03,371 --> 00:39:07,049
It's one of the major catch lines from
Fawlty Towers. Definitely, Bill.
648
00:39:07,050 --> 00:39:08,009
Good for you.
649
00:39:08,010 --> 00:39:11,390
Coming up, it wasn't just Spanish
getting it from both barrels.
650
00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:12,660
Here we go again.
651
00:39:12,730 --> 00:39:16,280
It's pick an Ireland -type week again.
And Cleese goes on the defensive.
652
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:21,790
Where I would disagree with Cleese is
the whole you're supposed to laugh at
653
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:24,250
I'm blown away that that is brave, I
suppose.
654
00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:38,349
By the 1970s, television sets were
commonplace with over 90 % of UK
655
00:39:38,350 --> 00:39:39,400
owning one.
656
00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:42,900
Quality of the TV was better because
there was only three channels.
657
00:39:42,901 --> 00:39:46,789
So the quality of the programme had to
be good to attract the viewer.
658
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:51,169
And now our viewers of Gen Z's and Baby
Boomers are binge -watching the entire
659
00:39:51,170 --> 00:39:53,070
12 episodes of Fawlty Towers.
660
00:39:53,450 --> 00:39:57,050
And one of the standout episodes is The
Builders.
661
00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:07,820
Battle has yet again made a poor
decision.
662
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:12,619
The poor decision is to bring in
builders that he knows to be incompetent
663
00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:14,459
because it's going to save him a few
bucks.
664
00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:19,619
And so he has to hide it from Sybil.
Now, that's a great little bit of fuel
665
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:20,860
drive the farce.
666
00:40:20,861 --> 00:40:24,179
The phone's used many times in the
series. In this case, this is an
667
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:26,279
one because he's having a double
conversation.
668
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,540
He's talking to O 'Reilly.
669
00:40:27,541 --> 00:40:31,449
whilst pretending to talk to the builder
that Sybil wants. Yeah, that's right.
670
00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:32,910
Yeah, it's clever.
671
00:40:33,110 --> 00:40:37,890
It is clever. That's such a comic
construction, which works so brilliantly
672
00:40:38,050 --> 00:40:41,710
because Basil sets it up, much to
Sybil's disagreement.
673
00:40:42,050 --> 00:40:45,150
If you study comedy, you'll recognize it
for what it is.
674
00:40:45,151 --> 00:40:48,409
Okay, we're going to hire in someone
who's rubbish. Oh, what's going to
675
00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:51,629
They're going to screw it up. And then
we remove anyone with competence that
676
00:40:51,630 --> 00:40:52,680
oversee the rubbish.
677
00:40:52,810 --> 00:40:54,790
And then hilarity into sooth.
678
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,310
And who is the most incompetent
character in Fawlty Towers?
679
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,150
Sinolfender Manuel.
680
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,700
I go upstairs.
681
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,970
Ah, sí, easy, easy.
682
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,250
For a little sleep.
683
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,610
It's difficult.
684
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,850
For siesta.
685
00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:09,880
Siesta? A little sleep? Yes.
686
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,400
Ah, same in Spanish.
687
00:41:11,401 --> 00:41:15,039
When a lot of these men come, you must
wait for me. What I thought was
688
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,159
interesting here is they wanted to have
Manuel deal with a very difficult
689
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,820
situation. So they set it up. So he's
there on his own. There's no Sybil.
690
00:41:23,821 --> 00:41:24,959
There's no Basil.
691
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,250
There's no Polly. You are a man with
Orly. What?
692
00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:32,339
You Orly men. What does that mean? You
Orly. You watch it. We're Orly. What's
693
00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:33,259
going on about?
694
00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:34,620
He means O 'Reilly. What?
695
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,650
Oh.
696
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Yes, that's right, yes. We are Orly men.
697
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,339
We still say Orly men. Should we get the
Orly man in? I mean, whatever, plumber
698
00:41:47,340 --> 00:41:48,199
or builder.
699
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,660
Should we get the Orly man in?
700
00:41:49,870 --> 00:41:54,129
I like the scripting there because it
means there's no way Manuel's going to
701
00:41:54,130 --> 00:41:58,989
know what needs doing. So it absolutely
ensures that later on in the episode
702
00:41:58,990 --> 00:42:02,410
that things have been completely set up.
703
00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:06,849
The cheap O 'Reilly builders from
Ireland do indeed make a mess of it,
704
00:42:06,850 --> 00:42:10,690
sends Basil into a panic, knowing Fibble
is on her way home.
705
00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:12,570
Rather you than me, Basil.
706
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:16,630
There's a lot of physicality in Fawlty
Towers. There's a lot of hitting.
707
00:42:16,631 --> 00:42:21,009
In it, which I didn't like, but there's
one scene that I thought was really well
708
00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:22,060
done.
709
00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:31,669
Initially, you go, whoa, where are you
taking
710
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:34,629
this? Because it's believable. And it's
believable because he's been hitting
711
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:38,089
everybody else up to this point. And
he's been beating up Manuel every other
712
00:42:38,090 --> 00:42:41,889
episode. That's quite weird, right?
Because there's a big guy going to hit a
713
00:42:41,890 --> 00:42:44,060
woman. You know, it's not an okay thing
to do.
714
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,419
So when he got slapped by Polly, I think
that seemed perfectly acceptable
715
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:51,740
because that was a woman fighting back.
716
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,300
And I think we all thought that then.
717
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,570
Oh, good.
718
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:07,619
She slaps him another three or four
times
719
00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:12,770
to snap him out of it. It's actually a
really interestingly choreographed
720
00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:17,349
We need that. We need her to slap him
back after he went for her. Because even
721
00:43:17,350 --> 00:43:19,790
in 1975, that was a step too far.
722
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:22,670
Really, really interesting scene.
723
00:43:23,450 --> 00:43:28,129
Cleese and Booth's scripts are often a
portal into the life of the 1970s and
724
00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:29,190
wider society.
725
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:31,350
So why were the builders Irish?
726
00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:36,019
The Irish construction industry in
Britain in the 70s, when this was made,
727
00:43:36,020 --> 00:43:39,280
to the fore, and every second builder
probably was Irish.
728
00:43:39,281 --> 00:43:43,019
They'd come over from the 30s onwards,
and they were helping rebuild Britain
729
00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:44,070
after the war.
730
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,319
And, you know, 12 % of nurses in the NHS
were Irish in the 70s. Ireland in the
731
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,560
70s was quite miserable, to be honest.
The economy was a ruin in Ireland, like,
732
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,199
for a long time. That's probably why a
lot of Irish people up to then had
733
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,360
immigrated to England.
734
00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:05,529
But rather than welcome them with open
arms, the Irish immigrants received a
735
00:44:05,530 --> 00:44:06,650
hostile reception.
736
00:44:07,070 --> 00:44:12,190
In general, we were terribly
disrespectful to people from Ireland.
737
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:18,790
who were a part of the backbone of some
of the services that we all needed.
738
00:44:18,791 --> 00:44:22,029
There are two stereotypes around Irish
people. One is that they're supposed to
739
00:44:22,030 --> 00:44:25,149
be stupid, the other is that they're
likely to be involved in the building
740
00:44:25,150 --> 00:44:30,569
trade. There were also lots of jokes
about Irish people being stupid, and
741
00:44:30,570 --> 00:44:34,370
was incredibly prevalent in 70s comedy.
742
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:38,620
You dear fungus -speaker, now hell
you're going nice to see you.
743
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:43,399
Special mention for my mum who's at the
tea chaos round the corner by the
744
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,450
cigarette shop.
745
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:49,760
We're announcing the departure of flight
number 0000 to Belfast.
746
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:52,110
I think.
747
00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:57,379
I do remember programmes in the 70s like
Jim Davidson on British TV and he'd
748
00:44:57,380 --> 00:45:00,160
Irish jokes. I was quite offended by
them, you know.
749
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,680
Back in the day they had those, which I
would consider really offensive.
750
00:45:05,681 --> 00:45:10,959
party Englishman, party Scotsman, party
Irishman joke, which you never hear of
751
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,939
anymore. The Englishman is always the
default, the norm, the acceptable way of
752
00:45:16,940 --> 00:45:20,719
doing something, whereas the Scotsman is
always mean and the Irishman is always
753
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:21,770
stupid.
754
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:26,839
The unwarranted prejudice may have
originated because many of the young
755
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,100
immigrants were young and only had
primary education, as for now.
756
00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:37,769
Most Irish people are on well -paid
jobs, and they're pretty much on a par
757
00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:40,470
people in Britain that's not even better
educated.
758
00:45:40,471 --> 00:45:44,089
In fact, the complexity of the Irish
language speaks to how intelligent they
759
00:45:44,090 --> 00:45:47,049
are. Do you know that they have three
different sets of numbers according to
760
00:45:47,050 --> 00:45:48,029
what you're counting?
761
00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:49,080
We only have one.
762
00:45:49,290 --> 00:45:54,489
Ireland is the country that produced
Oscar Wilde. Clearly, the idea that a
763
00:45:54,490 --> 00:45:56,660
nation of people are stupid is
ridiculous.
764
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:03,959
But the 1970s IRA bombing campaign added
an extra layer of prejudice for Irish
765
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,010
immigrants.
766
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,600
I remember coming to England in 1972
when I first came.
767
00:46:08,601 --> 00:46:11,879
Coming with an Irish registered car
would get a lot more attention.
768
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,839
Like, you'd have to be careful where
your park is, you know. It immediately
769
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:21,359
suspicion. It's easy to forget,
actually, how full a time it was because
770
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,000
of the trouble between the troubles and
the economy.
771
00:46:26,590 --> 00:46:33,249
It was quite dark and quite desolate, so
luckily we had comedy to humour us up
772
00:46:33,250 --> 00:46:35,960
with this, I suppose, given the most
difficult times.
773
00:46:36,210 --> 00:46:38,430
Ah, yes, back to the comedy, Eugene.
774
00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:40,050
He belongs in the zoo.
775
00:46:40,051 --> 00:46:44,109
You've never given anyone the benefit of
the doubt. He's shoddy, he doesn't
776
00:46:44,110 --> 00:46:47,829
care, he's a liar, he's incompetent,
he's lazy, he's nothing but an awkwardly
777
00:46:47,830 --> 00:46:51,329
thick Irish joke. Ah, hello, everyone,
how funny we were just talking about
778
00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:55,270
And then we got on to another Irish bill
we used to know. Oh, God, he was...
779
00:46:55,950 --> 00:47:00,049
Here we go again, that it's pick an
Ireland type week again. It very much
780
00:47:00,050 --> 00:47:03,420
perpetuated the stereotypes that existed
and it played into them.
781
00:47:03,610 --> 00:47:08,369
Unlike when Basil's talking to the major
and the major uses inappropriate words
782
00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:12,370
about the cricketers and Basil goes, I'm
not sure I endorse this.
783
00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:17,689
Unlike in that scene, in this scene,
Sybil lets loose and there's nobody
784
00:47:17,690 --> 00:47:19,990
to say, that's not okay.
785
00:47:25,371 --> 00:47:31,979
I have seen more intelligent creatures
than you lying on their backs at the
786
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:32,979
bottom of ponds.
787
00:47:32,980 --> 00:47:36,119
I've seen better organised creatures
than you running round farm yards with
788
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,079
their heads cut off.
789
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,940
Let's collect your things and get out.
790
00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:43,470
The British people watching would have
watched that and gone, oh yeah, so
791
00:47:43,471 --> 00:47:45,739
you know, these are the tropes that we
have about the Irish.
792
00:47:45,740 --> 00:47:48,539
And I think that that's something we
definitely wouldn't be allowed to get
793
00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:49,339
with now.
794
00:47:49,340 --> 00:47:53,010
He has this incompetent builder who's
Irish. I think that's unfortunate.
795
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,880
But the context of when it was written
has now moved on.
796
00:47:57,290 --> 00:48:01,249
I was just looking at it as in they were
just bad builders and I wasn't really
797
00:48:01,250 --> 00:48:03,589
thinking about maybe like the historical
context and stuff.
798
00:48:03,590 --> 00:48:08,009
The bit that did make me laugh was when
she was ranting and then the guy walked
799
00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:09,649
in because it was like a funny concept.
800
00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:13,270
But I didn't get any of the, I didn't
realise that that was like... Like,
801
00:48:13,271 --> 00:48:14,689
against Irish people, though.
802
00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:17,829
Even with, like, the idea of, like,
Basil being a cheap skate and hiring
803
00:48:17,830 --> 00:48:21,560
people, like, that could be funny. It's
just, like, he pretends to be this,
804
00:48:21,561 --> 00:48:24,889
like, posh guy that he's hiring, like,
the cheapest he can find. But then
805
00:48:24,890 --> 00:48:28,849
they're intertwining the idea of being
cheap with being foreign or being Irish
806
00:48:28,850 --> 00:48:30,290
or being Spanish or whatever.
807
00:48:30,291 --> 00:48:31,409
It's degraded.
808
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:32,169
Yeah.
809
00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:36,629
Did you feel that it was out of order? I
felt it was about the character of that
810
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:39,330
particular builder, not Irish builders
in general.
811
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,519
I thought it was just that particular
builder. I think at that time, there
812
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,160
a lot of Irish workers that came over.
813
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:47,430
There were, yeah.
814
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:50,320
And I think that's where that comes from
a bit.
815
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,220
So, did you think we'd make a box job of
the builders?
816
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:59,199
I thought, before I knew the context, I
thought it was a bit humorous. But now
817
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,690
that I know the context, I put it on
what you guys said. I put it on Kipper.
818
00:49:03,060 --> 00:49:04,110
Do you know what?
819
00:49:04,111 --> 00:49:07,799
It was funny before that, but I'm going
to give this one a kipper. Just that bit
820
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,759
where she loses the plot, because I wish
she hadn't.
821
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,580
Coming up is just not cricket.
822
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,940
The first time I heard the word racism
is when I arrived in the UK.
823
00:49:18,380 --> 00:49:20,220
And things go from bad to worse.
824
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,780
It was one of the most disgusting things
we've seen in our time.
825
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,280
For many Gen Zs.
826
00:49:33,550 --> 00:49:37,969
The Brexit referendum was the first time
they got to vote. But if you are a baby
827
00:49:37,970 --> 00:49:40,870
boomer, you might be saying... You're
joking.
828
00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:42,770
Not another one?
829
00:49:43,050 --> 00:49:49,869
The UK joined the EEC in 1973, and in 75
a referendum asked whether we
830
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:54,650
should remain in the European Economic
Community, which later became the EU,
831
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:58,610
basically the opposite of Brexit and
without the catchy title.
832
00:49:58,611 --> 00:50:01,609
We know that Basil knows about that
because he refers to it in one of the
833
00:50:01,610 --> 00:50:04,789
episodes. I didn't vote for it. Of
course he didn't vote for it because,
834
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:06,109
know, he's a little Englander.
835
00:50:06,110 --> 00:50:08,710
You'd had people going on foreign
holidays.
836
00:50:08,711 --> 00:50:13,069
That started to happen because basically
it became affordable for ordinary
837
00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:15,420
people to go on holiday, for example, to
Spain.
838
00:50:15,870 --> 00:50:21,509
And in return it meant Europeans came on
holiday to Old Blighty, perhaps to a
839
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:23,590
seaside hotel in Torquay.
840
00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:26,330
Europeans such as the Germans.
841
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,819
Although it was 30 -odd years since the
end of the war, there were still people
842
00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:36,240
within living memory. I wasn't part of
it, but my parents were.
843
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,599
What we live by today have been
determined by what happened in our
844
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,680
can't erase that history easily. You
can't forget the war.
845
00:50:45,140 --> 00:50:50,239
There was a generation that was maybe
one, maybe almost two generations
846
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:54,159
from the war. You're talking about the
silent generation and the greatest
847
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,100
generation. who had fought in the war
and were getting on a little bit.
848
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,520
How did people not talk about the war
more?
849
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:08,119
The war was closer to people in the
1970s than things I remember as being,
850
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,360
know, Margaret Thatcher was to us now.
My father's German.
851
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,859
He grew up post -war. I think that most
German people were incredibly
852
00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:20,280
embarrassed and reticent.
853
00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:25,439
and to a certain amount ashamed. My
father wasn't born until after the war,
854
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,919
in school he was made to feel guilty for
something that he wasn't even a part
855
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,959
of. But clinging to the idea that the
British holiday is still alive, Basil
856
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,160
wouldn't turn them away.
857
00:51:36,820 --> 00:51:40,479
May I say how pleased we are to have
some Europeans here now that we are on
858
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,340
continent? Can I speak to Dr Finn,
please?
859
00:51:43,341 --> 00:51:46,579
I didn't vote for it myself, quite
honestly, but now that we're in, I'm
860
00:51:46,580 --> 00:51:51,219
determined to make it work. The whole
thing is... beautifully choreographed,
861
00:51:51,220 --> 00:51:56,259
just physically, but also just the
linguistics of it, the words of it, and
862
00:51:56,260 --> 00:52:00,019
we get to that point. We start seeing
this freedom of movement. And that's
863
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:03,719
we see in this episode, is these Germans
have come to Torquay on holiday. And if
864
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,379
there's one thing Germans love, it's a
beach holiday.
865
00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:08,540
But us Brits are famously awkward.
866
00:52:08,541 --> 00:52:12,389
There's always an element of, oh God,
the elephant in the corner. Don't say
867
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:15,280
anything. Oh Christ, it's an elephant
and you blurt it out.
868
00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:17,110
Because everybody, you know,
869
00:52:17,590 --> 00:52:19,410
literally don't mention the war.
870
00:52:19,411 --> 00:52:22,109
It would have been awkward. How do we
handle them? What do we say? What do we
871
00:52:22,110 --> 00:52:25,069
do? You know, it's kind of awkward to
look someone in the face when you've
872
00:52:25,070 --> 00:52:26,870
beaten them at a world war.
873
00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:28,650
Allow me to introduce myself.
874
00:52:28,810 --> 00:52:34,350
I am the owner of Fawlty Towers. And may
I welcome your war, your war, you war,
875
00:52:34,510 --> 00:52:35,690
you war, you war.
876
00:52:35,691 --> 00:52:38,639
and hope that your stay will be a happy
one.
877
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,140
I think that the writing in the whole
German bit is all very complex.
878
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:47,400
You know, the bit where he goes for the
war. I mean, you war, you war, you war,
879
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,530
you war.
880
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,560
That bit was beautifully done. And
again, he is the butt of that joke.
881
00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:55,950
You know, he's concussed. He's trying
not to mention the war.
882
00:52:55,951 --> 00:53:00,479
Earlier in the episode, Basil had taken
multiple blows from different objects,
883
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,840
including the moose.
884
00:53:02,110 --> 00:53:03,610
Listen, don't mention the war.
885
00:53:03,611 --> 00:53:06,669
I mentioned it once, but I think I got
away with it, all right.
886
00:53:06,670 --> 00:53:11,229
Now, it's all for us now, and let's hear
no more about it. So there's two egg
887
00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:14,750
mayonnaise, a prawn gobbled, a herman
goreng, and a prawn goreng.
888
00:53:14,751 --> 00:53:19,089
Wait a minute, I got a bit confused.
Sorry, I got a bit confused because
889
00:53:19,090 --> 00:53:22,589
everyone keeps mentioning the wars. When
you mention Fawlty Towers, the first
890
00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:25,909
thing that they talk about is... They
said don't mention the war. That's
891
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:30,849
yeah. Playing on the idea that this was
a taboo between these two groups of
892
00:53:30,850 --> 00:53:32,890
people, I think was quite clever.
893
00:53:33,170 --> 00:53:37,349
The wordplay with it in that scene, the
fact that he managed to put the name of
894
00:53:37,350 --> 00:53:43,949
prominent Nazis into popular foodstuff,
prawn goebbels, that's
895
00:53:43,950 --> 00:53:45,000
really funny.
896
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,299
I think it's a very, like, British thing
to do that, like, awkward, like, you
897
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:52,179
mention something you're not supposed to
mention, and then you end up doing it
898
00:53:52,180 --> 00:53:53,230
50 times over.
899
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,020
I think that's very British humour.
900
00:53:55,220 --> 00:53:59,939
Perhaps the most iconic scene of Fawlty
Towers is the climax of the Germans
901
00:53:59,940 --> 00:54:00,990
episode.
902
00:54:00,991 --> 00:54:02,559
Here, watch!
903
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,610
Who's this thing?
904
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:05,190
Stuck you!
905
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:22,809
The crowning glory of that scene, which
is meant to be really so offensive, is
906
00:54:22,810 --> 00:54:24,710
Basil doing the goose -stepping.
907
00:54:25,370 --> 00:54:30,389
You know why he's doing it and what he's
referring to, but yet it's funny seeing
908
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:31,770
John Cleese do it.
909
00:54:32,070 --> 00:54:35,930
He does an incredible goose -step. I
mean, it's an amazing movement of his
910
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:39,110
I'm trying to cheer him up, you stupid
crowd!
911
00:54:45,230 --> 00:54:48,470
It's not funny for her, not for us, not
for any German people.
912
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:53,230
You have absolutely no sense of humor,
do you? It's not funny!
913
00:54:53,470 --> 00:54:55,410
Who won the bloody war anyway?
914
00:54:56,270 --> 00:55:00,230
But was making light of the war and her
attitudes to Germans funny?
915
00:55:00,670 --> 00:55:02,710
Or big? Or clever?
916
00:55:03,250 --> 00:55:04,810
I don't know if people know this.
917
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:06,570
Germans love that episode.
918
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:09,910
My father's favorite episode of Fawlty
Towers.
919
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,139
is the germans episode that was an
important part of the healing and the
920
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:19,599
my father was working in in very
international settings in the 70s in
921
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,479
said in one workplace he was you know he
was their favorite nazi in my opinion i
922
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,039
saw it maybe reflected the the time of
when it was filmed that collectively
923
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:34,359
everyone was trying to process the huge
trauma of world war ii the epitome of 40
924
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,060
towers so two bells from me
925
00:55:36,061 --> 00:55:42,609
Cleese's mocking of British awkwardness
towards the Germans may have been given
926
00:55:42,610 --> 00:55:43,850
the seal of approval.
927
00:55:44,170 --> 00:55:50,409
And in 2013, when repeating the Germans
pre -Watershed, the BBC decides to
928
00:55:50,410 --> 00:55:55,549
censor racial slurs from the major's
cricket anecdote. Remember the notorious
929
00:55:55,550 --> 00:55:56,630
scene from earlier.
930
00:55:56,870 --> 00:56:01,989
I don't personally think we should
censor. I'm a firm believer in the truth
931
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:06,690
that what stood then, however flawed,
should remain.
932
00:56:07,950 --> 00:56:12,030
But for some, the Major has tainted the
legacy of Fawlty Towers.
933
00:56:12,031 --> 00:56:15,909
I always call her Winnie because, well,
because she looks like Winnie.
934
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:16,960
She's not black.
935
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:18,200
Black?
936
00:56:18,290 --> 00:56:19,590
Churchill wasn't black.
937
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:22,090
I think the Major was well acted.
938
00:56:22,370 --> 00:56:27,669
I mean, in what he says and his attitude
to things, the Major is totally round
939
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:28,489
the twist.
940
00:56:28,490 --> 00:56:31,570
He's obviously had been badly affected
by the war.
941
00:56:31,571 --> 00:56:34,429
It was thought that there were people
like that at the time.
942
00:56:34,430 --> 00:56:36,480
The 70s were... A funny time.
943
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,290
It was a time where Britain was very
much changing.
944
00:56:39,620 --> 00:56:42,920
And the Major is a man out of his time
in this changing country.
945
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,520
I can speak English.
946
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,460
Oh Lord, it's Robbie Poole.
947
00:56:49,461 --> 00:56:50,279
Did you?
948
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,330
Did you?
949
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,240
The Major was absolutely foxed and, you
know, perplexed by this.
950
00:56:56,500 --> 00:57:01,560
If it happened to you, you could want to
say, why is this animal speaking to me?
951
00:57:01,980 --> 00:57:04,360
And, you know, terribly effectively
done.
952
00:57:08,270 --> 00:57:12,629
But there are some who felt that the
major's ramblings shouldn't have even
953
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:17,289
it onto the British primetime TV in the
first place. The first time I heard the
954
00:57:17,290 --> 00:57:21,590
word racism is when I arrived in the UK.
955
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:27,609
Tony Bowery left the West Indies in a
boat headed to the UK the day after
956
00:57:27,610 --> 00:57:30,510
Winston Churchill died in 1965.
957
00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:35,170
Once in the UK, Tony settled in Leeds.
958
00:57:35,550 --> 00:57:41,579
My first experience of racism... was in
a church in the Leeds Cathedral. At the
959
00:57:41,580 --> 00:57:48,519
end of one service, the local priest
came and told me I must go to a church
960
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,500
Chapel Town where my friends are.
961
00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:56,640
Tony became part of what is now known as
the Windrush Generation.
962
00:57:56,641 --> 00:58:00,899
The Windrush Generation were invited
over to the country to help rebuild the
963
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,560
country from World War II.
964
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,519
And to Tony, it was also an opportunity
to get involved in a shared love of
965
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,559
cricket.
966
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:13,239
This was going to be an opportunity for
them to create a new life in a place
967
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,519
where they were going to be accepted and
welcomed.
968
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,720
The West Indies cricket team were a
formidable force.
969
00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:24,170
They won the inaugural World Cup in
1975, handed to them by Prince Philip.
970
00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:26,210
It was terribly, terribly relevant.
971
00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:31,590
And I think that's what makes, you know,
the whole 40 episodes so interesting.
972
00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:37,069
Yes, I think the major would be nicely
prejudiced about the West Indies playing
973
00:58:37,070 --> 00:58:41,290
a game and playing it so well when it
had a very English root.
974
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,499
Brothers Adnan and Amman, whose parents
migrated from India, had similar
975
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:54,639
experiences. I think they called us the
P word and they told us the F of facts
976
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:00,159
away from and things like that. It is
historically recorded that people went
977
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:06,619
around seeing signs saying no Irish, no
blacks, no dogs. That was the degree of
978
00:59:06,620 --> 00:59:10,660
the prejudice. So when Basil... and the
Major have these conversations.
979
00:59:10,940 --> 00:59:15,420
And when there are odd references to
this, it immediately strikes a chord.
980
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,700
So why did John Cleese and Connie Booth
put this on TV?
981
00:59:19,060 --> 00:59:23,799
Well, in Cleese's audio commentary on
the Fawlty Towers Blu -ray, he gives us
982
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:24,850
insight.
983
00:59:25,420 --> 00:59:27,240
There's a lot in this speech.
984
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,610
Listen carefully.
985
00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:37,810
There's a punchline to that in a moment.
986
00:59:40,690 --> 00:59:44,690
Now, wouldn't one get away with that
these days? I don't think so.
987
00:59:44,691 --> 00:59:48,709
I don't think so. If you're trying to
educate people, I don't think comedy's
988
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:50,110
medium to try and do that.
989
00:59:50,450 --> 00:59:54,869
In some ways, it's educated the racist
because it said these are the words that
990
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:55,920
you should be using.
991
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:01,319
Cleves goes on to explain that the major
was supposed to be a figure of fun, and
992
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,860
therefore you could make fun of racial
attitudes.
993
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,499
If you were worried about it and then
didn't do that kind of humor, then a
994
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:13,400
range of satirical humor would disappear
from our culture.
995
01:00:13,980 --> 01:00:20,579
So I don't think that you can edit humor
because it may be misunderstood by
996
01:00:20,580 --> 01:00:26,379
idiots. Where I would disagree with...
Cleese is the whole, you're supposed to
997
01:00:26,380 --> 01:00:30,339
laugh at him. I think nowadays we would
say, no, you're supposed to tell him
998
01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:33,159
off. You're not supposed to laugh at him
and go with, and he's silly for using
999
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,620
the wrong words. Why can't you have a
bit of fun?
1000
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,820
Well, it's not funny.
1001
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:44,079
And Irish know all about it as well,
because they've been lamp -owned and
1002
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,200
over years.
1003
01:00:45,820 --> 01:00:47,260
So it's no different.
1004
01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:50,100
I'm blown away that that is brave, I
suppose.
1005
01:00:50,101 --> 01:00:53,699
Because he's not really doing anything
overly clever. He's just saying racism
1006
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:58,140
bad. Like, very, like, subtly, which is,
like, not that crazy of a thing to say.
1007
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,560
Yeah. No matter how old you are, it's
upsetting and it hurts.
1008
01:01:02,860 --> 01:01:04,180
Start using N -word.
1009
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,659
And it was much worse, I thought, Kate,
than taking a punch. I don't think it
1010
01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:12,580
was right then. It's not right now, and
it never will be.
1011
01:01:12,780 --> 01:01:17,440
Coming up, is Fawlty Tower is about to
be confined to the dustbin of history?
1012
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:20,600
It was one of the most appalling things
I've ever seen.
1013
01:01:29,450 --> 01:01:31,430
The year is 1975.
1014
01:01:32,050 --> 01:01:33,230
Labour are in power.
1015
01:01:33,490 --> 01:01:37,769
Liverpool are embarking on a title
-winning season. Rod Stewart is on a
1016
01:01:37,770 --> 01:01:41,770
tour. And Fawlty Towers hits out screens
for the first time.
1017
01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:47,309
Well, may I ask what you were expecting
to see? Out of a talky hotel bedroom
1018
01:01:47,310 --> 01:01:49,810
window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps?
1019
01:01:50,370 --> 01:01:52,190
Hanging gardens of Babylon?
1020
01:01:52,570 --> 01:01:55,190
Herds of wildebeest sweeping
majestically?
1021
01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:57,810
I expect to be able to see the thief.
1022
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,500
You can see the sea. It's over there
between the land and the sky.
1023
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,479
She says there's no view, and we can see
in the cheap set that there is a view
1024
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,530
there.
1025
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,540
It's over there between the land and the
sky.
1026
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,100
It was also quite erudite, right?
1027
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,120
What would you expect to see? The
hanging guns of Babylon, perhaps?
1028
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,139
That's because Cleese was, you know,
university educated, so he had all that
1029
01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:23,320
his armory.
1030
01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:29,559
Fast forward 50 years, Labour are in
power, Liverpool top the lead, Rod
1031
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:34,819
Stewart's a little bit less sexy and
British comedy fans are treated to a
1032
01:02:34,820 --> 01:02:38,939
End reboot of Fawlty Towers. I saw the
stage play just a few months ago and
1033
01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:39,719
loved it.
1034
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,770
It was hilarious.
1035
01:02:40,771 --> 01:02:44,439
It was the greatest hits, basically, all
together on stage and it worked
1036
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:49,819
perfectly. But rewind five years and a
global news story would go on to prompt
1037
01:02:49,820 --> 01:02:52,780
the BBC to review some of its back
catalogue.
1038
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,080
including faulty towers.
1039
01:02:55,540 --> 01:03:00,379
So in 2020, George Floyd got murdered,
and that triggered a review for the BBC
1040
01:03:00,380 --> 01:03:04,180
in which this episode got taken down
because of what the major said.
1041
01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:11,239
With the horrendous tragedy of the
George Floyd murder, that did jolt
1042
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:17,720
people into reassessing how we were
portraying different races on
1043
01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:20,970
And quite rightly, the George Floyd
incident got us talking.
1044
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:28,180
Fawlty Towers regularly tops polls as
one of our best -loved sitcoms.
1045
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:34,519
Tonight, UK TV, a channel controlled by
the BBC, has confirmed to Newsnight that
1046
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,020
it's removed the Don't Mention the War
episode.
1047
01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:41,240
Oh, my God, did we say that? Was that
allowed to happen?
1048
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,119
And should we do that? Oh, does that
make it... Well, God, that's not funny
1049
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,400
anymore. So that was a kind of watershed
moment.
1050
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,940
John Cleese so stood by his words.
1051
01:03:55,660 --> 01:03:58,480
I think that the BBC is a slightly
special case.
1052
01:03:58,481 --> 01:04:01,819
They do have a little bit more of a
responsibility to make sure that all
1053
01:04:01,820 --> 01:04:05,300
in the country are feeling serviced by
that service.
1054
01:04:05,580 --> 01:04:09,660
A month later, a UK TV reinstated the
episode.
1055
01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:13,839
UK TV is to bring back the Fawlty Towers
episode for Germans, saying viewers
1056
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,460
will be warned about its content.
1057
01:04:15,850 --> 01:04:21,949
Fair enough to say there is language
that you won't like and attitudes to
1058
01:04:21,950 --> 01:04:26,610
race or other cultural aspects.
1059
01:04:26,611 --> 01:04:29,229
You can't rewrite history and you
shouldn't.
1060
01:04:29,230 --> 01:04:33,890
You can't rewrite history, but you can
rewrite the future.
1061
01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:39,549
The Fawlty Towers stage play is an
amalgamation of three classic Fawlty
1062
01:04:39,550 --> 01:04:44,729
episodes, including the Germans, which
raised questions about the use of the N
1063
01:04:44,730 --> 01:04:46,070
-word in the reversion.
1064
01:04:46,570 --> 01:04:51,129
I say don't use it. I don't think
there's any case for that in the stage
1065
01:04:51,130 --> 01:04:52,180
now.
1066
01:04:52,270 --> 01:04:56,429
Cleese was challenged on using the N
-word at the press launch for the stage
1067
01:04:56,430 --> 01:05:01,000
play. Have you had to airbrush parts of
it for modern sensibility?
1068
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:02,550
A couple of things.
1069
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,099
And I wouldn't have done it in a perfect
world. But you know what social media
1070
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:08,680
is like. People get so excited.
1071
01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:13,039
It's not worth the candle. So we changed
a couple of the major slides. Nothing
1072
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,090
else.
1073
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,380
I don't agree with policing of language.
1074
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,550
But at the same time, I also don't agree
with upsetting people unnecessarily.
1075
01:05:21,780 --> 01:05:23,340
So I think he made the right call.
1076
01:05:23,660 --> 01:05:26,100
They got it right in not using it.
1077
01:05:26,330 --> 01:05:33,289
I think today, where there is so much
hard discrimination around, the people
1078
01:05:33,290 --> 01:05:37,510
who did the play are quite responsible
not to use it in that way.
1079
01:05:38,290 --> 01:05:41,130
So where does this leave the legacy of
Fawlty Towers?
1080
01:05:41,650 --> 01:05:46,149
I think the legacy of Fawlty Towers is
that it will go down as one of the most
1081
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:48,770
famous comedies ever on television.
1082
01:05:49,150 --> 01:05:52,909
You've got the iconic elements like
Basil Fawlty beating the car with the
1083
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:54,530
branch. That's all we've got to be.
1084
01:05:54,610 --> 01:05:58,650
I think one of the top moments in
British history in terms of comedy.
1085
01:05:59,210 --> 01:06:03,130
Our generational viewers awarded 12
bells and 4 kippers.
1086
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:06,270
So I guess it's not completely
cancelled.
1087
01:06:06,271 --> 01:06:10,169
And the Gen Z's liked it much more than
we thought they would. Which goes to
1088
01:06:10,170 --> 01:06:13,590
show you, you shouldn't stereotype
people for comic purposes.
1089
01:06:13,810 --> 01:06:16,810
Even if it is really, really funny.
1090
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:21,679
I think that we can all look back on
Fawlty Towers with an 80 -90 % degree of
1091
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:27,340
fun and pride for it being a wonderful
British product of British comedy.
1092
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:33,800
But the major, that thing today is
incredibly problematic.
1093
01:06:34,460 --> 01:06:39,339
I hope you've enjoyed your stay here at
Fawlty Towers. And if we notice so much
1094
01:06:39,340 --> 01:06:43,439
as a face cloth missing from your room,
we will be issuing a warrant for your
1095
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,490
immediate arrest.
1096
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,730
Good night.
1097
01:06:47,660 --> 01:06:52,619
Exploring their spectacular palaces and
sprawling estates, Royal Residences, A
1098
01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:55,160
Map of Britain is brand new next
Saturday at 10 to 8.
1099
01:06:55,460 --> 01:07:00,119
From an on -stage royal controversy to
the real -life royal reunion that left a
1100
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,170
nation divided.
1101
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,000
1972, Those Were the Days is next.
1102
01:07:04,050 --> 01:07:08,600
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