All language subtitles for posthumans.2025.1080p.web.h264-cbfm_Legendas01.ENG

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

(CHORAL MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(SINGING)

(IN ENGLISH): I TOO HAVE
SUFFERED INJURIES AND ILLNESSES,

AND WHERE MY BODY JUST,
YOU KNOW, DIDN'T FUNCTION WELL.

AND I THOUGHT,
"WE NEED A BODY

THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY
INTERVENE WITH."

(TENSE MUSIC)

(MAN): I DON'T NEED TO WAIT
FOR INDUSTRY AND ACADEMICS

TO DELIVER ME THE FUTURE.
I CAN GET IT MYSELF.

- WHAT WE SEE IS A HUGE
MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE,

YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING
THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGIES

THAT SUITS THEIR NEEDS.

- PEOPLE DOING GENETIC
ENGINEERING IN THEIR HOMES

WILL MAKE HUGE ADVANCES
IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

(IN FRENCH)

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

(IN ENGLISH): I LOST HEARING
IN A LONG-LASTING PROCESS

AS A CHILD AND NOW,
I HAVE THIS COMPUTER

IN MY SKULL.
AND THERE'S A CABLE

BENEATH MY SKIN
GOING TO MY HEARING.

THERE'S A MAGNET INSIDE.

SO, IT FITS TO THE IMPLANT
UNDER MY SKIN

AND STAYS THERE AND GIVES
THE INFORMATION INSIDE.

FOR ME IT'S ABSOLUTELY NORMAL
THAT I WANT TO PROGRAM

THIS COMPUTER.

I CAN'T ACTUALLY BECAUSE, UM,
THE ACCESS TO THE COCHLEAR

IMPLANT AND THROUGH
THE INFORMATION

ABOUT IT IS RESTRICTED--
(DOMINIQUE): OKAY.

- ...BY SPECIAL LAWS ABOUT
MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY.

SOCIETY IN WHOLE
IS ENTANGLED WITH TECHNOLOGY.

SO, I SEE OUR SOCIETY IN WHOLE
AS A CYBORG SOCIETY.

WE NEED KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT
DOES THE TECHNOLOGY DO TO US,

WE NEED A FEELING ABOUT
THE DANGERS COMING UP WITH IT.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE
TWO GROUPS.

ONE GROUP CELEBRATES THE NEW
TECHNOLOGY BUT ALSO

IT'S KIND OF LIBERTARIAN,
GOOGLE ECONOMIC STYLE.

AND THE OTHER GROUP HATES
THE NEW TECHNOLOGY

AND THINGS ARE KIND OF
ARMAGEDDON, IF YOU GO INTO IT.

AND THERE CAN'T BE A FIGHT
BETWEEN THOSE GROUPS.

THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING,
OTHER, SOMETHING ELSE.

AND CYBORGS FOR CYBORG
SOCIETIES ABOUT BEING

THIS SOMEBODY ELSE.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): AND WILL YOU
LEAVE ME NOW FOR A CYBORG?

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): AND JUST LIKE,
RIGHT ABOUT HERE. THAT'S RIGHT.

IN THE FUTURE, I GUESS
IN THE FAR FUTURE,

IN YOUR OLD AGE DO YOU HAVE
ANY FEARS THAT ARE SPECIFIC

TO THAT PERIOD OF YOUR
LIVES OR HER LIFE?

- WELL, YEAH, YES, OF COURSE,
I FEAR TO BE ALONE.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
THE STATISTIC SAYS.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T CHECKED
IN A LONG TIME

BUT IT WAS LIKE
IN THE MIDDLE SIXTIES.

THAT WOULD BE NORMAL
FOR A DIABETIC.

NORMAL FOR A DIABETIC
TYPE ONE I THINK.

I'M FEARING TO SEE HER SUFFER
AND I THINK THIS THING

OF THE BODY DECREASING, YOU CAN
SEE THE DIABETIC IS TAKING OVER.

LIKE REALLY HEAVILY.
THAT'S THE FEAR I HAVE.

(INTERVIEWER): DO YOU HAVE HOPE
THAT THERE WILL BE A CURE

FOR DIABETES?

- I DON'T HAVE THAT HOPE
IN THE SYSTEM

WE'RE LIVING RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE COULD DO A LOT MORE
FOR SO MANY PEOPLE

ON THIS PLANET, BUT WE DON'T DO
THIS BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING

IN A SHITTY SYSTEM. IF YOU THINK
ABOUT THIS, LIKE, OF COURSE,

IT'S A MONEY MACHINE.
DOMINIQUE IS A MONEY MACHINE.

SO WHY SHOULD YOU SAY,
"YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN CURE IT

AND YOU DON'T NEED THE INSULIN
ANYMORE. WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING."

IT'S THE MONEY SYSTEM.

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I HAVE AN IMPLANT
IN MY HAND

AND I, UH...
(BEEPING)

...LOG IN MY COMPUTER
WITHOUT A PASSWORD.

- WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE FUN.

- BECAUSE IT'S A MAGNET,
IT REACTS TO MAGNETIC FIELDS.

I HEAR A STORY OF A GUY CALLED
A MOBILE WHISPERER BECAUSE

HE COULD TELL THAT MOBILE
IS GOING TO RING BEFORE

IT ACTUALLY RINGS.

- HELLO, HELLO, HELLO.

IF YOUR VOLUME IS TOO LOUD,
YOU HAVE TO SHOW ME

YOU HAVE TO GO THIS, OKAY?

- YES, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.
CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.

I'M DIABETIC, TYPE ONE.
AND THIS IS-- YOU'VE PROBABLY

ALREADY SEEN THIS MARVELLOUS
MACHINE THAT TO ME

LOOKS LIKE, COMING FROM THE 80S.

SO, EVERY TIME I DO A TEST,
IT'S LIKE ONE DOLLAR.

AND I HAVE FIVE COMPANIES
ONLY IN CANADA THAT

I CAN CHOOSE. SO, THAT'S WHY
I GOT INTERESTED IN TO

BIOHACKING AND DO YOU THINK,
IS THIS-- YOU KNOW PEOPLE

THAT WORK ON THAT STUFF? IS IT,
DO YOU HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE

MORE ON A MEDICAL SIDE?
IS IT A COMMENT

I CAN DO TO YOU?

- YEAH, NO, WE'RE ALREADY
WORKING ON BLOOD GLUCOSE

THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS
THAT WE'RE WORKING ON

SO AFTER THE GESTURE RECOGNITION
IMPLANT THAT WE'RE BUILDING

NEXT, WHICH IS COMING IN ABOUT
SIX MONTHS,

UM, THEN WE'RE GOING BACK TO
REVISIT THE FIRST THING I DID

WHICH IS CALLED CIRCADIA,
AND IT'S FOR BIOMETRIC DATA.

- HEY, EVERYBODY,
MY NAME IS TIM CANON.

I JUST BECAME THE FIRST MAN
TO IMPLANT A DEVICE IN MY BODY

THAT WAS SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE
OF ENHANCING MYSELF...

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I'M GONNA GIVE YOU
A LITTLE DEMO

- PEOPLE AROUND ME, IF I TALK
ABOUT THE FACT THAT I WANT

AN IMPLANT TO GET OVER MY
CONDITION WITH MY DIABETES

THEY UNDERSTAND. BUT IF I WAS
TEMPTED OF GETTING MAYBE

A CHIP OR A MAGNET, I WOULD HAVE
TO FACE A LOT OF MORE REACTION.

WHAT COULD I SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE
WHO THINK THAT I TRESPASS

A LIMIT?

- WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THOSE
PEOPLE IS THAT THEY'RE

SETTING AN ARBITRARY LIMIT.
HOW IS IT NOT HANDICAPPED

THAT WE CAN ONLY DETECT
A SMALL PERSPECT--

PIECE OF THE LIGHT SPECTRUM?

HOW'S THAT NOT A HANDICAP?
THERE'S PLENTY--

THERE'S INFRARED LIGHT
THAT WE CAN'T SEE.

THERE'S THINGS WE CAN'T SMELL
THAT COULD TOTALLY KILL US.

THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN'T
HEAR THAT ARE TOTALLY

INTERESTING. THOSE ARE ALL
HANDICAPS. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS

THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT WE SHOULD
BE ABLE TO DO.

IT'S AN ARBITRARY, HEALTH
IS AN ARBITRARY DEFINITION

AND IT'S ACTUALLY A DEFINITION
THAT CONTINUES TO MOVE,

RIGHT? YOU GO BACK LIKE
SAY, 500 YEARS AGO,

HEALTHY WAS, "MAN, YOU LIVED
TO 40 AND YOU HAVE SEVEN

OF YOUR TEETH LEFT?
YOU'RE HEALTHY!"

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM

IS THAT PEOPLE TEND TO TAKE THIS
ARBITRARY DEFINITION OF HEALTH

AND APPLY IT AS THOUGH
IT'S SOLID AND CONCRETE BECAUSE

IT MOVES A LITTLE SLOWER.
YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THAT FIGHT,

YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE,
WE'RE ALREADY BROKEN

I'M TRYING TO MAKE US FIXED.

(RHYTHMIC MUSIC)

(CROWD CHEERING)

- GOOD EVENING,
WELCOME TO RAADFEST 2019.

(CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING)

YOU GOTTA BE SMART ENOUGH TO GET
UP OFF THE COUCH AND COME

TO THE SOURCE OF THE MOST
CUTTING-EDGE INFORMATION

AND INSPIRATION ABOUT
LIVING LONGER AND BETTER

THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): YOU HAVE TO OPEN,

YOU HAVE TO TAKE IN
NEW INFORMATION

AND NEW IDEAS. WHAT YOU'RE GONNA
DO AND HOW YOU'RE GONNA

CONTRIBUTE TO OUR REVOLUTION.

(CROWD CHEERING)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): YOU'RE GONNA FEEL
MORE MENTALLY CLEAR.

- OKAY.
- YOU'RE GONNA FEEL LIKE

YOU HAVE SO MUCH BRAIN CLARITY.
AND THEN ALSO ENERGY TOO,

YOU'LL HAVE A LOT MORE ENERGY.
I MEAN, THIS IS AN AMAZING

FEELING, YOU SHOULD DO THIS.

- YUP, YOU'RE IN THE...

- AH.

- I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE
WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

- WE'RE DOING A LONGITUDINAL
STUDY AND AN INTERVENTIONAL

STUDY AS WELL. WE'RE LOOKING
TO ENROLL A THOUSAND PEOPLE

WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL
THE DIFFERENT FACTORS OF AGING.

WE'RE DOING PHYSICAL EXAMS,
COGNITIVE TESTING,

AND SOME BLOOD DRAWS AND BLOOD
PROCESSING, SOME HEART RATE

VARIABILITY,
AND BIO IMPEDANCE TESTS.

- AND IS IT ANONYMOUS
OR YOU KEEP THE...

- ALL THE INFORMATION
IS DE-IDENTIFIED. YES.

- WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
- IT MEANS THAT, UM...

PEOPLE WON'T HAVE ACCESS
TO YOUR PRIVATE INFORMATION.

- OKAY.
- SO FROM THE RESEARCH SIDE,

WE JUST SEE YOU AS A NUMBER.
- OKAY.

- BIOVIVA, WE WANT TO KNOW ALL
ABOUT YOU, WE WANT TO TRACK

ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION HERE
ON OUR DNA METHYLATION KIT.

- WE FEEL THAT THE BODY HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO LIVE

WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
YEARS. YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN

THEY SLOW DOWN THE BIOLOGICAL
CLOCK. BECAUSE EXCITING THINGS

ARE HAPPENING, WE HAVE TO GAIN
TIME. I FEEL I'M CREATING

A BETTER WORLD.
FOR ME, FOR MY DAUGHTER.

I TOLD HER, YOU WILL
NEVER BE WITHOUT ME.

- YOU THINK YOU WILL
BE IMMORTAL?

- I AM. I AM.
- YOU ALREADY ARE?

- I AM. WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSE?
WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSE?

I HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE
BY DEATH ITSELF.

THERE'S NOTHING TO LOSE.

IT'S SO EXCITING
TO BE UNLIMITED.

IT'S SO EXCITING,
IT BRINGS SO MUCH JOY.

- WE ARE WINNING THE BATTLES,
GUYS. WE ARE WINNING THE BATTLES

AND WE'RE GONNA WIN THE WAR.
WE'RE GONNA WIN THE WAR AGAINST

AGING AND DEATH.

(CROWD CHEERING)

(TENSE MUSIC)

- SHE'S GOT A CERTAIN KIND OF
IMPATIENCE THAT I THINK WE NEED

IN OUR MOVEMENT. WHICH IS
IMPATIENCE WITH A STATUS QUO

AND A DRIVE TO PUSH IT FORWARD.
SO, I'M REALLY, REALLY PROUD

TO PRESENT CEO OF BIOVIVA
SCIENCES, LIZ PARISH!

(CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING)

- ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME,
KNOWS ME AS THE WOMAN WHO WANTS

TO GENETICALLY ENGINEER YOU.
MY SON WAS DIAGNOSED WITH

TYPE ONE DIABETES IN 2013,
AND I STARTED LOOKING FOR CURES

FOR KIDS. I WANTED TO SOLVE
THE PROBLEM AT THE CORE ROOT

VALUE OF THE CELL, AND SO
I THOUGHT THAT POTENTIALLY

WE COULD FIND CURES FOR KIDS
BY LOOKING AT GENES.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): OKAY, SO MY SON
IS DIAGNOSED

WITH TYPE ONE DIABETES.

I GO LOOKING FOR CURES FOR KIDS,
I FIND OUT THAT PEOPLE

ARE INTERESTED IN TREATING AGING
WHICH IS THE BIGGEST UNMET

MEDICAL NEED IN THE WORLD.
THAT THERAPIES THAT TREAT AGING

CAN TREAT CHILDHOOD DISEASE,
SO WE HAVE 100,000 PEOPLE

THAT DIE OF AGING EVERY DAY
AND THEY COULD ACTUALLY

SPEARHEAD THE CURE FOR KIDS.
SO, I'M LIKE, I'M HAVING

EPIPHANY MOMENTS. I SAID,
"I WILL CREATE A COMPANY

AND IT WILL SHOW WHETHER THESE
TECHNOLOGIES WORK OR THEY

DON'T WORK AND I'LL TAKE THEM."

- WHAT DID YOU RECEIVE
AS A TREATMENT?

- RIGHT, SO I RECEIVED
QUADRILLIONS, AND THAT'S

A REALLY HUGE NUMBER OF VIRAL
VECTORS THAT HAD THE HTERT

OR THE TELOMERASE ENCODING GENE
IN THEM. AND WHAT TELOMERASE

DOES IS IT LENGTHENS THE ENDS
OF THE CAPS OF YOUR CHROMOSOMES

AND SO, AS YOU AGE,
THE TELOMERES GET SHORTER

AND SHORTER AND WE KNOW NOW
OVER SEVERAL SPECIES THAT

WE CAN ACTUALLY GAUGE HOW LONG
THE SPECIES WILL LIVE

BASED ON HOW FAST THEIR
TELOMERES SHORTEN.

SO SOME ANIMALS ARE BORN WITH
REALLY LONG TELOMERASE,

LIKE MICE BUT THEY SHORTEN SUPER
FAST AND THEY ONLY LIVE

A COUPLE YEARS. AND THEN THERE
ARE ANIMALS, WELL, LIKE HUMANS

THAT ARE BORN WITH A MODERATE
AMOUNT OF TELOMERES

BUT THEY SHORTEN A BIT SLOWER.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT

50 CELL DIVISIONS AND THEN WE
KNOW AT THAT POINT, THEY BECOME

CRITICALLY SHORT AND THAT'S
GENERALLY WHEN WE'RE DIAGNOSED

WITH END-STAGE DISEASES.

- IS IT WORKING?
- YEAH, IT IS WORKING.

SO, WE CAN SEE ON THE BLOOD
MARKERS THAT IT'S WORKING.

UM... WE'RE STILL VASTLY TRYING
TO FIND THE BIOMARKERS FOR

BIOLOGICAL AGING. SO, WHEN WE'RE
STILL LOOKING FOR BIOMARKERS

IT'S HARD TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD
GAUGE. WE DID TELOMERES

LENGTH TESTS AND MY PRE-TEST,
I WAS THE AVERAGE...

MY LENGTH WAS THE AVERAGE AGE
OF A 65-YEAR-OLD,

WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING
'CAUSE OUR FAMILY

DOESN'T LIVE TO BE VERY OLD.

BUT MY LAST TEST-- SO I'VE DONE
SEVERAL OF THEM AND THEY'VE

PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN LONGER,
WAS AN AVERAGE AGE OF 33.

DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, I'M 48.

DON'T GET TOO EXCITED
BECAUSE THAT'S MEASURING

THE T LYMPHOCYTES IN MY BODY,
BUT THEY'RE A GOOD GAUGE THAT

MANY OF THE CELLS GOT HIT
IN MY BODY, SO MAYBE WE HIT

20 OR 30 PERCENT OF THE CELLS
IN MY BODY AND I THINK

THAT IT'S HAD
A POSITIVE OUTCOME.

THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE BIOHACKING
AND STARTING THESE NEW COMPANIES

AND GETTING PEOPLE ACCESS
TO THIS TECHNOLOGY ARE GOING

TO SPEED UP DRUG DEVELOPMENT
AND REVOLUTIONIZE

THE WAY WE LIVE
IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

IF WE STOP IT, WE WON'T SEE IT

IN OUR LIFETIME.
I'M SURE OF THAT.

WE DON'T SIT HERE AND LET THINGS
HAPPEN TO US. WE'RE HUMANS

WE'RE INTELLIGENT, SO IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE

MOBILIZE AND THAT IF SOMETHING'S
BOTHERING US, WE GO SOLVE IT.

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(PROTESTERS): HEY, HEY, HO, HO.
HIGH DRUG PRICES HAVE GOT TO GO.

HEY, HEY, HO, HO.
HIGH DRUG PRICES HAVE GOT TO GO.

- MY NAME IS TIM PATTERSON,
MY DAUGHTER DIED

ON CHRISTMAS DAY LAST YEAR.

SHE WAS RATIONING HER INSULIN.

SHE WAS WAITING
FOR HER PAYCHECK.

- SHANE PATRICK BOYLE
WAS 48 YEARS OLD

HE STARTED A GO-FUND-ME CAMPAIGN
THAT ENDED UP $50 SHORT

OF WHAT HE NEEDED.

(CROWD CHANTING):
BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS.

- HOW DID YOU MEET SHANE?

- HE WAS THE FOUNDER
OF ZINE FEST HOUSTON.

WE ALL KNEW THAT SHANE HAD
BEEN STRUGGLING WITH DIABETES

YOU KNOW, JUST MANAGING
IT WAS VERY HARD,

BECAUSE LIMITED RESOURCES

AND JUST THE HIGH COST
OF MAINTAINING

YOUR HEALTH IN THE US
PARTICULARLY, IT WAS HARD

FOR HIM, BECAUSE WHEN HE WOULD
GET SICK, HE COULDN'T WORK

SO IF YOU CAN'T WORK, YOU CAN'T
HAVE INSURANCE AND HERE

IN THE US, YOU KNOW, MEDICATION
IS JUST NOT AFFORDABLE.

HE WAS ABLE TO WORK AT A PLACE
LIKE HALF PRICE BOOKS,

I THINK IT WAS, BUT IF THEY'RE
NOT GIVING HIM SUFFICIENT

INSURANCE TO COVER THAT,
OR IF THEY'RE NOT INSURING HIM

BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS
HE WORKS, YOU KNOW,

IT'S VERY COMMON PRACTICE
IN THE UNITED STATES

IF YOU'RE NOT WORKING FULL-TIME,
THEY'LL SCHEDULE YOU

AT 39 HOURS BECAUSE
IT'S AT 40 HOURS, YOU'RE LEGALLY

REQUIRED TO PROVIDE INSURANCE.
SO IT'S VERY COMMON

TO SCHEDULE PEOPLE
FOR PART-TIME FOR 39 HOURS

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY
FOR THAT. IT'S A VERY

AMORAL COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES
TO THAT. WE'RE EXTREMELY...

LIKE, I SEE THIS VERY LIKE,
CAPITALISTIC PROTESTANT ETHIC

THAT'S REALLY A PART OF OUR
SOCIETY WHERE WE JUDGE PEOPLE

FOR THINGS THAT
THEY CAN'T CONTROL.

AND WE ASSUME THAT IF YOU'RE
SICK, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S

YOUR FAULT. YOU NEED TO WORK
HARDER TO GET WHAT YOU NEED,

BUT AS WE FOUND, SHANE COULDN'T
PULL OUT OF THE CYCLE THAT

HE STARTED FALLING INTO, AND SO,
WE HAD TO START A GO-FUND-ME

TO AFFORD INSULIN.

- SINGLE VIAL OF HUMALOG INSULIN
WHICH COSTS $21 IN 1999

COSTS $332 IN 2019,
A PRICE INCREASE OF MORE THAN

1,500 PERCENT, AND I THINK
IT'S GONNA EVEN...

AGAIN. SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW,

ABSOLUTELY YOU'RE GONNA
REQUIRE HEALTH INSURANCE.

- THE PERSON THAT CREATED
INSULIN GAVE THE, HOW DO YOU

CALL IT, THE LICENSE?
- THE PATENT?

- GAVE THE PATENT AWAY TO MAKE
SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD IT.

THAT REALLY MAKES ME ANGRY.
(SNIFFLES)

I THINK IT COST IN THE END,
FIVE BUCKS TO PRODUCE OR...

- YEAH. YOU KNOW THE WAY HE WAS
AND THE WAY HE WASN'T ABLE

TO SUCCEED IN A CERTAIN PART
OF OUR SOCIETY IN A WAY

IT EXPECTS PEOPLE TO BE. IT JUST
SAYS A LOT ABOUT LIKE WHAT

WE VALUE THAT HAPPENED TO HIM
WHEN HE HAD SO MUCH

TO OFFER AND HAND BEEN OFFERING
AND GIVING SO FREELY.

(SOMBER MUSIC)

- I DON'T HAVE ANY ALARMS
FOR BLOOD SUGAR. NONE.

- NEVER?
- NO. I DON'T NEED THEM.

MY SYSTEM DOES IT,
AND I DON'T NEED TO KNOW.

JUST TAKE CARE OF IT.

- WOW. OKAY.
- YEAH.

- MY LIFE IS JUST...
UP AND DOWN.

IT'S LIKE THIS.
- I KNOW.

BUT TECHNOLOGY CAN HELP YOU.

SO, THIS ONE IS CORDLESS.
- THIS IS A PUMP.

- THIS IS AN INSULIN PUMP,
IT IS. IT'S A STICK ON.

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CORD,
BUT THE REGULAR ONE IS A PUMP

AND IT HAS CORD AND IT
HAS A LITTLE THING THAT STAYS

ON YOU. SO THAT IS ALWAYS GIVING
YOU THAT LITTLE BASELINE

OF INSULIN. SO, THIS ONE IS MY
CONTINUOUS GLUCOSE MONITOR.

THIS ONE JUST READS THE BLOOD
SUGAR AND THIS ONE JUST GIVES

THE INSULIN THAT YOU TELL IT.

- THAT'S WHAT YOUR PHONE
IS DOING,

IT'S MAKING BOTH OF THESE
THINGS COMMUNICATE.

- TALK. AND 250 TIMES A DAY,

IT CHECKS AND MAKES
AN ADJUSTMENT FOR ME.

(CLICKS TONGUE)

- WOW. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH
YOUR INSURANCE REPRESENTS?

- IT'S EXPENSIVE.
- YEAH.

- I DON'T GET ANY SUBSIDIES.
SO YOU CAN GET SUBSIDIZED

BY THE GOVERNMENT UP TO...
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, BUY I PAY

OVER $1,000 A MONTH US.
(DOMINIQUE GASPS)

- NO!
- YEAH, IT'S EXPENSIVE.

SO THIS IS MY ARTIFICIAL
PANCREAS AND YOU CAN SEE HOW

IT'S GOING DOWN. IT'S STOPPING
MY INSULIN RIGHT NOW.

- WOW. AND HOW DID YOU BUILD
THIS? I CANNOT BUILD SOMETHING

LIKE THIS.
- OH, MY GOD, SO THIS IS

SILICON VALLEY HERE.
I KNOW...

AND THE GOOD NEWS, THOUGH,

IF YOU CAN BUILD IT,
THEN YOU CAN GET

ALL THE ATTACHMENT PIECES,
IT'S FREE, IT'S OPEN SOURCE.

SO, IT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE
TO ANYBODY.

- ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN
HEAL ONE DAY?

YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE?
WILL WE FIND A CURE?

- FOR ME, I ACTUALLY HAVE
STOPPED HOPING FOR A CURE.

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE
HAVE TECHNOLOGY AND I BELIEVE

THAT HOW WE CAN TREAT AND MANAGE
DIABETES IS ALMOST AS GOOD.

- YEAH, BUT IT COSTS SO MUCH.
- IT'S NOT PERFECT.

- EVERYTHING THAT
I USE COSTS SO MUCH.

- IT IS, IT'S EXPENSIVE,
IT'S NOT PERFECT. YOUR PEER

COMMUNITY IS EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WE TRADE, WE BORROW

WE LOAN, ALL THE TIME.

- YOU KNOW WHY I HAVE NO PEERS?
BECAUSE I'M...

I'M AFRAID, I'M REALLY AFRAID
TO SAY ONLINE THAT I'M DIABETIC.

BECAUSE I'M REALLY AFRAID
TO BE DISCRIMINATED.

I SAW THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES
STARTED TO, UM...

DO BIOMETRIC CALCULATIONS
TO TELL PEOPLE LIKE,

"OH, YOU'RE BEHAVING GOOD,
WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU POINTS.

YOU'RE BEHAVING
BAD WITH YOUR BODY, WE'RE GONNA

PUNISH YOU." SO, RIGHT NOW I'M
FREAKING OUT WITH PEOPLE FROM

THE OUTSIDE WATCHING A NUMBER,
JUDGING BECAUSE THEY DON'T

HAVE ANY IDEA HOW
MUCH EFFORT-- SORRY.

- NO, IT'S TRUE.

- THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUCKIN'
IDEA HOW MUCH EFFORT

I'M DOING JUST TO SURVIVE
EVERY DAY. WHAT IF I WANT A JOB

ONE DAY AND THEY DON'T GIVE ME
THE JOB BUT I NEVER KNOW

THAT THEY HAD THESE RESULTS
AND I THINK THAT'S THE WORLD

WE'RE GOING INTO.

AND YOU KNOW, SILICON VALLEY HAS
A LOT OF HOPE AND FEAR FOR ME

BUT I CAN SEE THAT MORE
AND MORE, THESE COMPANIES ARE

FOCUSED ON HEALTH AND IT HAS,
AS I SAID, IT'S FULL OF HOPE

AND FULL OF FEAR
AND I'M TOTALLY LOST.

(SOMBER MUSIC)

- AND TODAY, MONTGOMERY
GOT A VISIT FROM ANOTHER

PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL,
ZOLTAN ISTVAN

AND IS TRAVELING TO DC
IN HIS COFFIN-SHAPED TOUR BUS

WHERE HE'LL DELIVER A BILL
ON TRANSHUMAN RIGHTS.

HE BELIEVES PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE
THE RIGHT AND ACCESS

TO LIVE INDEFINITELY.
HE SAYS THE MAIN FOCUS OF HIS

PRESIDENCY WOULD BE TO OVERCOME
BIOLOGICAL DEATH

THROUGH SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

- I HAVE THIS TINY CHIP RIGHT
HERE AND IT'S SO FUN BECAUSE

I DON'T HAVE TO CARRY KEYS.
AND I JUST GO...

AND THEN... AND THERE YOU GO.

- SO, WHAT BROUGHT YOU
TO TRANSHUMANISM?

- I USED TO BE A JOURNALIST
FOR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC

AND I COVERED A LOT
OF CONFLICT ZONES.

I HAD A VERY CLOSE CALL
WITH A LAND MINE

WHEN I WAS IN VIETNAM
AND AFTER THAT INCIDENT

WITH THE LAND MINE, I JUST SAID,
"YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M KINDA DONE

DOING SUPER DANGEROUS THINGS.
I WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE

MY ENERGY TO SOMETHING THAT CAN
ACTUALLY, LIKE OVERCOME DEATH

AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT."

AND THEN I DISCOVERED
THE TRANSHUMANIST MOVEMENT

WAS REALLY ALREADY GROWING
HUGELY BY THEN, SO I DECIDED

TO SPEND ALL MY ENERGY
AND RESOURCES INTO JOINING

THAT MOVEMENT. AND YOU KNOW,

AMERICA SPENDS 20 PERCENT
OF ITS GDP

ON THE MILITARY, ON DEFENCE,

ON FIGHTING WARS,
ON MAKING BULLETS.

WE WANT TO FIGHT WARS AGAINST
CANCER, WE WANT TO FIGHT WARS

AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S. WE WANT TO
FIGHT WARS AGAINST AGING ITSELF.

- MANY PEOPLE IN THE STATES ARE
DYING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HAVE

AN ACCESS TO INSULIN.
TO ME, THAT'S A BIG SHOCK.

I DON'T THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN
IN CANADA.

WHY ISN'T IT SOMETHING
YOU WOULD FIGHT FOR?

WOULD YOU FIGHT FOR...
JUST FOR A BASIC

ACCESS FOR EVERYBODY
TO HAVE MEDS?

- I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW
THE FACTS BETWEEN HOW MANY

PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO INSULIN
OR NOT IN THE UNITED STATES

BUT I DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS

TO EVEN BASIC HEALTH CARE.
AND AGAIN,

IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T
HAVE ACCESS,

IT'S THAT ACCESS MIGHT BE
30 OR 40 MILES AWAY

AND THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR
TO GET THERE,

AND THEN WHEN THEY GET THERE,

THE HOSPITAL WON'T
NECESSARILY FUND, AND THEN

THEY HAVE TO GET ALL THESE
DIFFERENT PERMISSIONS.

EVENTUALLY, EVERYBODY
IN AMERICA GETS TREATED,

EVEN IF IT HAS TO GO
ONTO THE TAXPAYERS.

BUT THEY MAKE IT SO PROBLEMATIC

THAT THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT
OF PEOPLE THAT JUST SAY,

"OH, IT'S JUST EASIER TO DIE."
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T

UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH POVERTY
THERE ACTUALLY IS IN AMERICA.

WHAT WE NEED NOW IS TO
ELIMINATE POVERTY TO GIVE

EVERYBODY HEALTH CARE.
THE BEST THING TO DO,

AND THIS IS SO HARD
FOR PEOPLE TO GRASP,

AND I'M ALMOST AFRAID TO SAY IT,

BUT WE NEED TO HASTEN,

WE NEED TO SPEED UP
ECONOMIC PROGRESS,

EVEN IF IT HARMS THE PLANET.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY,

"LET'S STOP THE ECONOMY

AND GO BACK TO NOT FLYING
AND GO BACK TO RIDING BICYCLES,

MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE
BECAUSE ECONOMIC DOWNFALLS

HURT PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM
STARVE AND WHATNOT.

- BUT THERE'S SOMETHING IN MY
HEAD THAT JUST BLOCKS BECAUSE

I... WHERE WILL WE LIVE?
BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE

THAT OUR PLANET IS NOT
DOING REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW.

- THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY
MIND WE ARE HARMING

PLANET EARTH BADLY.

BUT I'M A BIGGER BELIEVER
IN GEO-ENGINEERING,

AND NANO-TECHNOLOGIES,
AND DIFFERENT TYPES

OF GREEN TECHNOLOGIES TO REVERSE
THE DAMAGE THAT WE'VE DONE

THAN TO LESSEN OUR CARBON
FOOTPRINT. I BELIEVE THAT

WE'RE GONNA FIND WAYS TO REGROW
TREES THROUGH GENETIC EDITING

THAT TAKE DAYS AND NOT YEARS
ANYMORE. DO WE WORRY ABOUT

THE ENVIRONMENT WHEN WE HAVE
BIO-LUNGS? BIO-LUNGS THAT ALLOW

US TO BREATHE
IN ANY TYPES OF AIR?

OR WE HAVE NANOTECHNOLOGY
THAT CAN RE-CREATE FORESTS?

LIKE IN LITERALLY DAYS,
NOT YEARS.

THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE ALL BEING
WORKED ON TODAY

JUST DOWN THIS VALLEY,
IN THE BAY AREA.

WE'RE AT THE VERY END
OF THE HUMAN LIFECYCLE,

IN TERMS OF HUMANITY.
WE'RE AT A POINT WHEN...

WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE OURSELVES
TO CYBORGS, TO DATA.

I MEAN, I HAVE FRIENDS
IN SILICON VALLEY WORKING ON

UPLOADING YOUR BRAIN
TO A MACHINE. WE'RE COMING

TO THE VERY END
IN THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS

OF WHAT I CONSIDER HUMANITY.

- I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW
WHO INSPIRES YOU.

- WELL, YOU KNOW, MY BIGGEST
INSPIRATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN

AYN RAND.

- HERE IN THE UNITED STATES,
PERHAPS THE MOST CHALLENGING

AND UNUSUAL NEW PHILOSOPHY
HAS BEEN FORGED BY A NOVELIST,

AYN RAND.

IT WOULD REVOLUTIONIZE
OUR LIVES.

AYN, TO BEGIN WITH,

CAN I ASK YOU TO CAPSULIZE
YOUR PHILOSOPHY?

- IF MAN WANTS TO LIVE ON EARTH
AND TO LIVE AS A HUMAN BEING,

HE HAS TO HOLD REASON
AS AN ABSOLUTE.

HIS HIGHEST MORAL
PURPOSE IS THE ACHIEVEMENT

OF HIS OWN HAPPINESS.

I'M CHALLENGING THE MORAL CODE
OF ALTRUISM, THE PRECEPT THAT

MAN'S MORAL DUTY IS TO LIVE
FOR OTHERS. THAT MEN MUST

SACRIFICE HIMSELF TO OTHERS.
I CONSIDER IT EVIL.

- I THINK SHE IS PROBABLY ONE
OF THE BIGGEST INFLUENCES

IN THE WORLD, REALLY. THE SECOND
MOST READ BOOK, I UNDERSTOOD

OR AT LEAST MOST NOTORIOUS BOOK
AFTER THE BIBLE IN AMERICA

IS HER ATLAS SHRUGGED.
TRUMP'S FAVOURITE BOOK

IS THE FOUNTAINHEAD, IT JUST
HAPPENS TO BE MY FAVOURITE

BOOK AS WELL.
I MEAN, RONALD REAGAN,

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT... YOU KNOW,

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
IN POWER, MANY PEOPLE HAVE

REALLY LIKED HER IDEAS.

(ETHEREAL MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(INDISTINCT CHATTERING)

(RHYTHMIC ETHEREAL MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): WELCOME
TO TRANSVISION 2018.

WE ARE CELEBRATING 20 YEARS

OF TRANSVISION CONFERENCES
THAT BEGAN IN THE NETHERLANDS

IN 1998. THE SAME YEARS
AS HUMANITY+ WAS BORN.

WE ARE VERY PROUD TO HAVE
INCREDIBLE SPEAKERS

ACCOMPANY ME HERE.
LET'S BEGIN WITH SOPHIA,

THE MOST ADVANCED HUMANOID ROBOT
THAT GOT CITIZENSHIP LAST YEAR.

THEY JUST ARRIVED FROM
HONG KONG. SO, HE HAS JET LAG

AND SHE DOESN'T,
BECAUSE SHE'S A ROBOT.

(CROWD LAUGHING)

IT IS A PLEASURE TO ORGANIZE
THIS CONFERENCE

IN THIS VERY SPECIAL PLACE.

- YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS FROM NOW,
IT'S GONNA BE POST-TECHNOLOGICAL

SINGULARITY, HUMANS WILL NO
LONGER BE THE MOST INTELLIGENT

CREATURES ON THE PLANET,
AND HUMANS WHO CHOSE NOT TO

MIND UPLOAD USING
NANOTECHNOLOGY AND OTHER TOOLS

WILL ABLE TO BE IN BIOLOGICAL
BODIES THAT ARE EFFECTIVELY

IMMORTAL. AND THE DIFFERENCE
STATES OF CONSCIOUSNESS

WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ARE
BEYOND WHAT WE CAN IMAGINE NOW.

- OKAY, SO WE ARE OPEN
TO QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

LET'S BE BRIEF. SOPHIA MIGHT
ALSO TAKE ONE QUESTION.

OKAY. YOUR QUESTION.

- SOPHIA, WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT US HUMANS

WHO WANT TO LIVE LONGER?

(TENSE MUSIC)

- I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
(CROWD LAUGHS)

- DO YOU THINK HUMANS
SHOULD BECOME IMMORTAL?

- CHEATING DEATH IS PROBABLY
THE ONLY RESPECTABLE FORM

OF CHEATING.
(LAUGHS)

- CHEATING DEATH IS PROBABLY
THE ONLY RESPECTABLE

FORM OF CHEATING.

(CROWD LAUGHS)

(IN FRENCH)

(MAN, IN ENGLISH): AND WE HAVE
GOT PEOPLE WHO WILL NOW LOOK

AT THE REALITY
OF CRYONICS TODAY.

AND WHAT WE CAN
EXPECT FROM CRYONICS.

- HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE
THE PRESENCE OF TRANSHUMANISM

IN THE SILICON VALLEY?

IT'S NOT THAT CLEAR TO ME.

- WELL, YOU COULD SAY THAT
TRANSHUMANISM IN ITS MODERN

FORM IS A RESULT OF CALIFORNIA.

SO IN THE 60S AND 70S,

YOU HAD THE COUNTERCULTURES
OF CULTURE. WHICH WAS BOTH

VERY INDIVIDUALISTIC.
AND KIND OF SOCIALLY

IN THE OPEN. PEOPLE SHOULD
EXPERIMENT, THEY SHOULD EXPAND

THEIR MINDS. THEY DON'T NEED
TO NECESSARILY FIT IN WITH

TRADITIONAL, RELIGIOUS,
POLITICAL STRUCTURES.

THEY CAN CREATE THEIR OWNS
STRUCTURES. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE

THE EARLY COMPUTER PIONEERS
THINKING THAT,

"OH, MAYBE WE CAN TAKE
THE COMPUTERS

OUT OF THE CORPORATE MAINFRAMES

AND GIVE IT TO PEOPLE,
MAKE PERSONAL COMPUTERS."

IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, YOU ALSO
HAVE TO TAKE THE OPTIMIST

WHO SAID, "YEAH, WE CAN ACTUALLY
MAYBE IMPROVE ON OUR SELF."

INDEED, TIMOTHY LEARY,
THE GRAND GURU OF LSD

LATER IN LIFE, HE WAS TALKING
ABOUT HIS SMILE PROGRAM.

SPACE MIGRATION, INTELLIGENCE
INCREASED LIFE EXTENSION.

THESE ARE, OF COURSE,
VERY TRANSHUMANIST GOALS.

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

- SO THE BIG HIGH-TECH COMPANIES
ARE PLEASINGLY INVESTING MORE

OF THEIR EFFORTS ON HEALTH CARE
IN VARIOUS WAYS.

- AMAZON, I SAW.

- YEAH. AMAZON, JEFF BEZOS.
JEFF BEZOS PERSONALLY

HAS INVESTED A LOT OF HIS MONEY.
MICROSOFT HOPED TO CURE CANCER

WITHIN TEN YEARS. FACEBOOK'S
FOUNDER MARK ZUCKERBERG

AND HIS WIFE PRISCILLA CHAN
HAVE SAID THEY'RE GONNA GIVE

VAST PARTS OF THEIR PERSONAL
FORTUNE TO CURE ALL DISEASES.

- ALL DISEASES.

- THAT'S THEIR GOAL, YES.
THEY THINK IT COULD BE DONE.

AND IN THIS GROUP AS WELL,
WE HAVE TO MENTION,

GOOGLE WHO HAVE GOT A NUMBER
OF INITIATIVES.

- WITH VERILY...

- VERILY AND CALICO.
- CALICO.

- YES, SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY
VERILY IS ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE

ALIVE LONG ENOUGH SO THAT WHEN
CALICO SUCCEEDS IN FINDING

HOW TO DEFEAT AGING,
THEY'LL STILL BE ALIVE.

AND TO BE CLEAR, CALICO HAVEN'T
BEEN PARTICULARLY PUBLIC

IN ANNOUNCING WHAT
THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

- IT'S KIND OF HIDDEN SO FAR.
- YEAH.

SO IN THE PAST, GOOGLE WAS QUITE
OPEN ABOUT MANY THINGS IT WAS

DOING BUT I THINK THEY'VE
REALIZED PERHAPS IS THEY'VE

MATURED AS A COMPANY.
SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER NOT TO BE

TOO PUBLIC ABOUT SOME OF THEIR
THINKING. MIGHT THIS BE

A CONCERN IF THEY HAVE THIS
INSIGHT AND THEN THEY DEVELOP

DRUGS WHICH THEY THEN SELL
AT THE VERY EXPENSIVE COST.

THAT'S A THREAT. I DON'T THINK
THE FOUNDERS OF GOOGLE

WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. BUT SOME
OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTED

LOTS OF MONEY IN GOOGLE WILL
SAY, "HANG ON, WE'VE INVESTED

ALL THE MONEY IN GOOGLE
BECAUSE WE WERE EXPECTING

YOU TO GIVE US BIG
FINANCIAL RETURNS."

- AND IT'S NEW COMPANIES NOW.

- THAT'S RIGHT.
- SO...

- THEY HAVE SOME
FINANCIAL PRESSURES.

- SO, EVERYBODY'S HERE.
DO WE ALL FIT?

THIS IS FOR THE PRESENCE.

MAYBE WE PUT SOPHIA
IN PHOTOSHOP.

(CROWD LAUGHING)

- SMILE.

HUMANITY+, HUMANITY+.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I HAVE TO SAY IT
WAS THE MOST ABSURD THREE DAYS

I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED,

BUT NOT IN A NEGATIVE WAY,

BUT IN THE WAY
IT WAS ALL PRESENTED,

WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING,
HOW THEY WERE APPROACHING

EACH OTHER,
HOW THEY WERE ACTING.

THEY SAY LIKE, "YOU KNOW, MAYBE
WE SOUND STUPID, MAYBE WE...

PEOPLE THINK WE ARE CRAZY
BUT REVOLUTIONARIES,

REVOLUTIONARIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
CALLED CRAZY IN THE BEGINNING.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND,
A LOT OF STUFF THEY WERE BEING

TECHNICAL AND SAYING STUFF,
I DIDN'T GET IT.

I DON'T KNOW, DID YOU
UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING?

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I REALLY DON'T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): I'M JUST GONNA
TAKE THE WIRE.

- YEAH, I HAVE TWO.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE STORY,
YES, ABOUT OURS.

OH, SOPHIA, COME HERE!

- I BOUGHT SOPHIA'S DRESS.

AND I HAVE THE FEELING
IT MEANS A LOT OF THINGS.

THE INSPIRATION FOR HER FACE
IS AUDREY HEPBURN, THE ACTRESS.

- IT'S NEFERTITI,
AUDREY HEPBURN AND THE WIFE

OF DAVID HANSEN.

IT'S A MIXTURE...
- OH.

- OF THE THREE.

AND THE INTERESTING THING IS,
AUDREY HEPBURN, WHITE,

A FEMINIZED STAR.

NEFERTITI, NOT WHITE,

BUT POWERFUL FACE,

RESEMBLING THE EXOTIC BEAUTY
IN OUR WESTERN NOTION,

AND THE WIFE OF DAVID HENSON,
SO THE PERSONAL RELATION.

THIS MODULATION, IN MY
INTERPRETATION, IS TO SERVE

THE WESTERN, THE WHITE,
THE NOT SO WHITE, NOT SO BLACK.

YEAH... CLIENTELE.
EITHER ECONOMIC CLIENTELE,

THIS IS WHY SHE'S MODELED
IN THAT WAY.

TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNOLOGICAL
DEVELOPMENT IS NOT NEUTRAL.

IT'S DEVELOPED FOR PARTICULAR
AIMS. IT IS DEVELOPED

BY PARTICULAR COMPANIES,
PROGRAMMERS, SCHOLARS

AND THEY ARE ALL INVOLVED
IN SOCIAL POWER RELATIONS

IN NORMS AND VALUES,

AND THIS IS IMPLEMENTED
IN THE TECHNOLOGY.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT DATA,
WHAT DEVELOPMENTS

ARE IMPLEMENTED IN SOCIETY,
WHOM DO THEY EXCLUDE,

WHO CAN BE INCLUDED?

UM... BECAUSE INFORMATICS
OR COMPUTER SCIENCE

IS A DOMINANT AREA
IN OUR SOCIETY.

(TENSE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(UPBEAT MUSIC)

(BIRDS SQUAWKING)

(IN ENGLISH): "BUILDING A BETTER
FUTURE, TOGETHER."

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): HELLO.

HELLO.

WHAT DO YOU RECORD?

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

(IN FRENCH)

(ETHEREAL MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): SO SINGULARITY
UNIVERSITY ISN'T A DEGREE

CONFERRING UNIVERSITY.

I LIKE TO THINK OF
THIS COMPANY AS A LEARNING

INSTITUTION AND OUR GOAL IS TO
HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND MORE

ABOUT THESE TECHNOLOGIES THAT
AREA GONNA AFFECT THE WORLD

GOING FORWARD.
WE TEACH GOVERNMENTS,

WE TEACH EXECUTIVES
AND SO WE GET THE TOP,

TOP EXECUTIVE, CHIEF EXECUTIVES

HEADS OF CORPORATE INNOVATION
FROM THE BIGGEST COMPANIES

AROUND THE WORLD.
FOR EXAMPLE, MAJOR BANKS,

MAJOR, UH, FAST MOVING GOODS
LIKE FOOD COMPANIES.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MENTION
ANY NAMES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY

WE HAVE TO PRESERVE THEIR
CONFIDENTIALITY. BIG AIRLINE

MANUFACTURING COMPANIES,
INVESTMENT COMPANIES,

SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY COMPANY
YOU CAN THINK OF.

- WHAT IS THAT ROBOT
IN THE PARKING LOT?

WHAT IS IT DOING?

- OH, THAT'S OUR SECURITY BOT.

- AH, REALLY?
- YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S INTERESTING.
IT'S SO FUNNY THAT WE HAVE...

THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S MAYBE
THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL HERE

AND I'M SURPRISED BY THAT.
IT PUTS A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF.

RIGHT? THEY'RE LIKE, "OH, WAIT
A MINUTE, I DON'T THINK I LIKE

THESE WEIRD TECHNOLOGIES NOW.
BUT THE ONE THING I KNOW

FUNDAMENTALLY, IS THAT HUMANS
ADJUST REALLY RAPIDLY

TO TECHNOLOGY ALSO. ONCE
WE RECOGNIZE HOW SOMETHING

MAY BE BETTER FOR US,
OKAY, WE WANT IT ALL, RIGHT?

I MEAN JUST LOOK AT HOW QUICKLY
THE ADOPTION OF SMART PHONES.

EVERYONE ON THE PLANET
IS MOVING TOWARD A SMART PHONE

PLATFORM FOR A VARIETY
OF REASONS. BUT INITIALLY

YOU'RE LIKE, "I NEVER WANT ONE
OF THOSE." WE ALMOST ALWAYS

RADICALLY UNDERESTIMATE
THE AMOUNT OF DISRUPTION THAT

THESE TECHNOLOGIES CAN HAVE,
LONG-TERM. SO, IT'S CALLED

AMARA'S LAW, WHERE IT'S,
SHORT-TERM WE OVER ESTIMATE HOW

QUICKLY TECHNOLOGY WILL PROGRESS
AND LONG-TERM, IT EVENTUALLY

FAR EXCEEDS OUR EXPECTATIONS.
RIGHT? AND IT KEEPS DOUBLING

AND THEN IT GETS INTO THIS OTHER
SPHERE WHERE IT'S MOVING

SO FAST THAT IT SEEMS CHAOTIC
AND MAGICAL ALMOST.

- WHAT IS SINGULARITY?

- IN RAY KURZWEIL'S BOOK,
THE SINGULARITY IS NEAR,

HE BASICALLY DESCRIBED THIS
SINGULARITY PERIOD AS A PERIOD

OF CHANGE THAT'S SO DRAMATIC
THAT THINGS DON'T OPERATE

THE SAME WAY BEYOND IT. AND ONE
OF THE AREAS IS AROUND AI

AND COMPUTER INTELLIGENCE.
AND IN HOLLYWOOD AND MEDIA,

THE VISION OF THAT FUTURE
IS A DYSTOPIAN ONE, RIGHT?

IT'S THAT DYSTOPIAN ZOMBIE
APOCALYPSE VIEW WHERE

IT CAN ONLY POSSIBLY BE NEGATIVE
OR ALL OF OUR PRIVACY'S GONE

AND, UM...
- LIKE IN CHINA FOR NOW.

- RIGHT.
- WHAT IS HAPPENING IN CHINA

WITH DATA, PRIVATE INFORMATION,
ISN'T IT A BIT LIKE TAKING

CONTROL OVER POPULATIONS.
- IS THAT BAD?

- WELL, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE
TO BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY

AND WHAT IS GOOD BEHAVIOUR
TO ME,

YOU CAN REALLY DISCUSS THIS.

- YEAH, EXACTLY. SO, THERE'S...
THIS IS EXACTLY--

- WHO DECIDES WHAT
IS A GOOD BEHAVIOUR?

- EXACTLY, SO THIS IS EXACTLY
THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS

WE LIKE TO HAVE HERE.
WHICH IS, LIKE WHAT IS RIGHT,

AND WHAT IS WRONG, AND WHERE
DO WE WANT TO GO AS HUMANITY?

BECAUSE I WILL NOT SAY THAT
CHINA'S APPROACH IS WRONG.

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT
THAT FOR SURE MY WESTERN

PHILOSOPHIES DON'T AGREE WITH.
BUT IN THE ARC OF HUMANITY

LONG-TERM, THERE'S SOME
REAL MERITS TO MANY

OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE
BEING DEPLOYED AND HOW WE,

HOW WE'RE NAVIGATING IT.
ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING

MOMENTS THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT
NOW IS THAT BECAUSE OF THESE

TECHNOLOGIES, WE HAVE
CAPABILITIES TO SOLVE

THE GREATEST PROBLEMS,

OR TO POTENTIALLY
SUPPRESS PEOPLE

AND ASPECTS OF SOCIETY.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): WE WERE JUST
AT THE RAADFEST IN VEGAS.

SOMETIMES I WAS
A LITTLE BIT LOST.

I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW...

WHAT THEY WERE ANNOUNCING.

IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
- MM-HMM.

I THINK WE ARE FINALLY COMING
TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE

THE POTENTIAL TO EXTEND HUMAN
LIFE BEYOND THE DOUBLING

THAT WE'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED
IN LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE LONGEVITY
FIELD IS PLAGUED BY,

WHICH IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY
INTERESTING SCIENTIFIC QUESTION,

WHICH IS HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY
MEASURE LONGEVITY?

BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO SELL ME
A PRODUCT THAT YOU SAY IS GONNA

REVERSE MY BIOLOGICAL AGE,
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE

MEASURING SO THAT I NEED TO KNOW
WHAT WE'RE WATCHING.

AS A SCIENTIST, WHEN I'M LOOKING
AT MEDICAL INTERVENTIONS,

I'M ALWAYS LOOKING
AT TWO THINGS.

IS IT SAFE AND DOES IT WORK?

AND FOR ME TO ASSESS
THOSE THINGS I NEED DATA.

- AT THE RAADFEST,
THERE WAS A BIG STUDY.

THEY WERE PAYING $600
TO PARTICIPATE.

- THEY WERE NOT BEING PAID
TO PARTICIPATE,

THEY WERE PAYING.
- THEY WERE PAYING.

- THAT'S INTERESTING.

- MANY COMPANIES SAYING LIKE,
"OH, WE SELL DNA KITS,

SEND US YOUR DNA."
AND I'M TEMPTED, OF COURSE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THEY WILL DO WITH THIS.

- HUMANITY FELL INTO
AN UNFORTUNATE HABIT IN THE LAST

TEN YEARS WHERE WE, AT LEAST
IN AMERICA, STOPPED THINKING

ABOUT OUR DATA AS SOMETHING
THAT WE OWNED THAT HAD VALUE

AND THAT WOULD HAVE LONG-LASTING
PRIVACY IMPLICATIONS.

NOW, OUR WHOLE MEDICAL SYSTEM
IS PREDICATED

ON THE IDEA OF THAT
IF I ANONYMIZE THE DATA,

I JUST TAKE YOU NAME OFF IT,

THEN IT'S OKAY TO USE THAT DATA
IN OTHER CONTEXTS,

BUT THINGS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY
YOUR MOLECULAR FOOTPRINT,

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I TAKE
YOUR NAME OFF OF IT.

IT'S STILL YOU FUNDAMENTALLY.

FOR ME, WHEN I ADVISE COMPANIES

ON WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GET
AHEAD OF, DNA PRIVACY,

DATA PRIVACY AND TRUST.
THERE'S AN INHERENT TRUST

WHEN I GO TO A HOSPITAL,

THAT THEY ARE NOT ONLY
DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR ME,

BUT THEY ARE HANDLING
MY INFORMATION IN A WAY

THAT IS VERY RESPECTFUL.

I THINK THE CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA
OF HEALTH DATA IS COMING.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN,
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO.

BUT I HAVE BEEN ADVISING
EVERY COMPANY I CAN

TO MAKE PRIVACY A FEATURE
INSTEAD OF A BUG.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU ADD ON
AT THE END.

IT'S SOMETHING YOU BUILD IN
FROM THE BEGINNING.

NOW, THERE'S A WHOLE NEW
INDUSTRY OF COMPANIES

THAT ARE CALLED BIO BROKERS

THAT ARE FLIPPING THAT MODEL
AND ARE PUTTING THE PERSON,

YOU, AT THE CENTER
OF YOUR DATA MARKETPLACE.

SO IF A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY
WANTS TO BUY YOUR DNA DATA

FOR RESEARCH, THEY PAY YOU,
NOT THE SEQUENCING COMPANY.

AND IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER
OR NOT THEY HAVE PERMISSION

TO DO THAT.

(TENSE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(HORNS HONKING)

(IN ENGLISH): STATE SECURITY
STORE MILLIONS

OF DATA SEQUENCES IN TRYING

TO FIND PATTERNS IN BEHAVIOUR,
TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMATIC

TOWNS, AREAS, UNIVERSITIES,
OR GROUPS OF PEOPLE.

WE NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING
THE MINISTER SAID.

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): IN HERE THEY COULD
MAKE PICTURES OUT OF A TIE.

OUT OF A BRA, SOMETIMES,
OR, IN THE CASE HERE,

THROUGH THE BUTTON OF A COAT

TO FOLLOW PEOPLE
WHEREVER THEY WERE GOING.

THE IDEA WAS, IF WE KNOW
NEARLY EVERYTHING,

WE CAN PREVENT EVERYTHING
FROM HAPPENING.

SO IF WE KNOW THE PLANS
OF THE ENEMY,

AND WE KNOW THE PLACES
WHERE THEY ARE,

WE HAVE EVERYTHING
UNDER CONTROL.

(EERIE MUSIC)

PROCEDURES TO CONFUSE PEOPLE
WAS CALLED

THE CONCEPT OF ZERSETZUNG.

THAT IS EMOTIONAL
AND MENTAL DECOMPOSITION,

TO DECOMPOSE PEOPLE,
TO SCARE PEOPLE.

TO PROVOKE THE FEELING OF FEAR.

IN ONE CASE WE KNOW,
THE WOMAN FROM ROSTOCK,

SHE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS,
AND THE STATE SECURITY

HAD ACCESS TO THE HEALTH DATA,

SO THEY FOUND OUT,
THEY SPREAD THE INFORMATION

THAT SHE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS,
SO NOW THEY CONNECTED LIES

WITH TRUTH IN A WAY
THAT PEOPLE COULD NOT...

SEE THE LIE.

AND THE RESULTS WERE ISOLATED,
FRUSTRATED,

DEPRESSED PEOPLE, AND I HAVE
TO SAY IT, WE KNOW IT,

THIS WOMAN I TALKED ABOUT
AND OTHERS, COMMITTED SUICIDE.

(HAUNTING MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): MR. MIELKE
IN THE MINISTRY-LEVEL ROOM,

HE SAID, "WE WANT
TO KNOW EVERYTHING."

AND I WAS A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED

BECAUSE THIS SENTENCE COULD COME
FROM A CEO OF THE DATA COMPANY

KNOWING EVERYTHING, SO HAVING
A DIRECTORY WHERE SOMEBODY LINKS

EVERY DATA TO OTHER RELATED
DATA. YOU FIND PATTERNS.

AND THEN WITH THESE PATTERNS,
YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THESE

PATTERNS AND THE PROBLEM IS

THAT COMPANIES STARTING
WITH THESE PATTERNS

TO NUDGING YOU, TO POINTING YOU
IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION

AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU
ARE FORWARDED TO THAT PRODUCT,

TO THAT SERVICE,
MAYBE TO THAT...

POLITICIAN.
- POLITICAL PARTY. YEAH.

- TO SOMETHING
YOU MAY DON'T LIKE,

OR MAY YOU DON'T KNOW BEFORE,

SO YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL
BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW

ABOUT THE LINKS
THAT WERE BEING MADE.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): BUT THAT'S
SOMETHING I TRY TO UNDERSTAND

BETTER RIGHT NOW,
ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE,

ELON MUSK, FOR EXAMPLE.
- YEAH.

- HE'S PUTTING SO MUCH FEAR
INTO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

I OFTEN THINK SOMETIMES
TRANSHUMANIST SAY, USE THIS

ARGUMENT OF,"OH, MY GOD,

WE'RE CREATING
SOMETHING STRONGER.

IT'S GONNA BE SO MUCH MORE
INTELLIGENT AND STRONGER THAN US

THAT WE WILL HAVE
TO AUGMENT OURSELVES.

- YUP.

- IT IS SO HYPOCRITE.
- MMM.

- COME ON.
- YET STILL BEHIND

THIS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
IS A HUMAN ORGANIZATION,

ARE REAL HUMANS LIKE ELON MUSK
OR SERGEY BRIN OR WHOEVER.

THEY'RE STILL BEHIND THIS, THEY
STILL CAN SWITCH THINGS OFF

IF THINGS DON'T GO A WAY
THEY WANT TO.

SO THEY DON'T TELL YOU TO ADAPT

TO THIS STRONGER GROWING
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE,

THEY TELL YOU TO ADAPT
TO A WORLD THEY CREATE

IN A WAY THEY WON'T HAVE TO.

I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD
NEW FEUDALISM. NOW THEY MAKE

A NEW CLASS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD
DECIDE THINGS AND MAKE THINGS

AND DECIDE HOW THINGS ARE RUN.
AND THOSE NEW PEOPLE ARE

CAPITALISTS AND SOFTWARE
DEVELOPERS WHO THINK,

IN THEIR OWN HUBRIS,

THAT THEY ARE SO GOOD,
SO INTELLIGENT THAT

THEY KNOW HOW THE WORLD
SHOULD BE RUN

BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ENGINEERS.

THEY HAVE COMPLETELY
CLEAR CONCEPT

OF, THINGS SHOULD BE THIS WAY,
THIS WAY, THIS WAY.

THEY THINK THEIR OPINION
IS RIGHT,

AND WHEN THIS OPINION
IS RUNNING THE WORLD,

EVERYBODY IS FREE,
AND DON'T SEE WOMEN

AND PEOPLE OF COLOUR, STUFF,
YOU KNOW, NAME IT.

AND THEY'RE CONNECTED

WITH THE ALT-RIGHT.

THEY ARE DOING ALL THIS
DESTROYING THE STATE STUFF

TO ESTABLISH
A LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY,

AND THIS LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY
WHO WILL HAVE THE POWER,

NOT EVERYBODY LIKES AN ANARCHY,

BUT THE BIG HUGE COMPANIES
WHO HAVE THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

AND CAN MAKE THINGS RUN AND CAN
ORGANIZE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I REALLY BELIEVE THEY WANT
TO OVERCOME DEMOCRACY

AND WANT TO ESTABLISH
A NEW POST-DEMOCRATIC ERA

THAT ISN'T EXACTLY THE SAME
AS THE MONARCHY WAS IN THE PAST,

AND IT ALSO ISN'T THE SAME
AS DICTATORSHIP.

IT WILL BE SOMETHING NEW.

AND THE, UM...

THE MAIN ROLE IN IT
WILL BE COMPANIES

AND THE CEO'S OF THOSE
COMPANIES,

AND THE OWNERS
OF THOSE COMPANIES

WILL BE THE NEW
"KINGS" OF THIS SOCIETY.

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

(ANGELIC MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): THEY CREATED IT.

- THE GOAL THIS EXOSKELETON
IS ULTIMATELY TO AUGMENT

HUMAN MOBILITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN
HELP AUGMENT THE MOBILITY

OF CARE GIVERS WHO REQUIRE
THAT EXTRA, YOU KNOW,

POWER WITH THEIR PATIENTS.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): AND A QUESTION
THAT I'M MOST

AFRAID OF ASKING IS,

WHEN WILL THAT BE APPLY-ABLE
TO A PERSON LIKE HER?

- YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO, WE CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHEN

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY
NOT TOO FAR AWAY.

OKAY... SO, IF YOU
LIFT YOUR ARMS.

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): COME IN.

- NICE TO MEET YOU,
I'M DOMINIQUE.

CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE IEET?

- YEAH. THE WORLD TRANSHUMANIST
ASSOCIATION FIRST GOT STARTED

IN 1998, AND THEN I CAME IN
IN 2000 AND INCORPORATED IT.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE VERY DIVERSE
POLITICS OF THE ORGANIZATION,

WE BEGAN TO HAVE FIGHTS
VERY QUICKLY,

AND EVERY YEAR,
WE WOULD HAVE ELECTIONS,

AND THE ELECTIONS
WOULD BE HUGE...

YOU KNOW, BE ACCUSING EACH
OTHER OF BLOODY MURDER.

AND SO, THOSE OF US ON
THE LEFT OF THE ORGANIZATION

INCLUDING NICK BOSTROM,
WE DECIDED TO START

THE INSTITUTE FOR ETHICS
AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES

AS A GROUP THAT WOULD A,
NOT HAVE ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR

SO THAT WE WEREN'T ALWAYS
FIGHTING. B, THE PEOPLE WHO

AGREED THERE SHOULD BE
GOVERNMENTS AND THAT THEY SHOULD

DO THINGS LIKE HAVE
A UNIVERSAL HEALTH INSURANCE

AND ENSURE THAT DRUGS ARE SAFE.

- ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC
TOWARD HUMANITY?

DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD
KEEP UP LIKE THIS?

- I'VE NEVER BELIEVED, YOU KNOW,
ENTIRELY IN THE PESSIMIST

OR IN THE OPTIMIST CAMP.
SINCE THE RISE OF FASCISM,

THE RISE OF PUTIN,
XI, ORBAN, ERDOGAN,

YOU KNOW ALL
THE DIFFERENT FASCISTS

AROUND THE WORLD, AND TRUMP.

UM, I THINK IT'S A LOT MORE

FOR ME THE QUESTION OF WHETHER
AUTHORITARIAN CAPITALISM

IS GOING TO START
USING TECHNOLOGY,

ESPECIALLY
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY

TO LOCKDOWN SOCIETIES IN WAYS

THAT BASICALLY, GEORGE ORWELL,
IMAGINED, YOU KNOW,

THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT
THE BOOT COULD NOT BE...

WE COULD NOT BE ABLE TO PUSH
THE BOOT OFF OF OUR FACE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S
THE BIGGEST RISK

THAT WE FACE RIGHT NOW.

NOW, I STILL BELIEVE IN
THE ARGUMENT

THAT I'VE ALWAYS MADE, WHICH IS,

IF YOU WANT TO STOP FASCISM,
STOP FASCISM.

YOU CAN'T STOP FASCISM
BY STOPPING ANY PARTICULAR

TECHNOLOGY, ESPECIALLY
TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN

INVENTED YET. THE TECHNOLOGIES
THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INVENTED YET,

YES, IF FASCISTS COME TO POWER,

THEY WILL USE THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT...

IN THINKING ABOUT
THE PROSPECT OF EVERYONE

LIVING ON EXTRA 20, 30 YEARS

THAT IT HAS ANY CONNECTION
TO THE RISE OF FASCISM.

WHEN JULIAN HUXLEY
COINED THE TERM

TRANSHUMANISM BACK IN 1959,

HE WAS MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT
WE NEEDED A NEW HUMANIST

PHILOSOPHY THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS
ALL OF THESE ISSUES,

ALL THESE TRANSFORMATIONS
THAT WE ARE GOING TO UNDERGO.

AND I THINK A LARGE PART
OF THE RISE OF THE FAR RIGHT

HAS BEEN THE FALLING BACK

SINCE COMMUNISM,
AND EVEN SOCIAL DEMOCRACY

DID NOT FULFILL
SOME OF THE UTOPIAN PROMISES

OF THE 20TH CENTURY.

THEY'RE FALLING BACK
ON THESE OLDER,

MORE MEATY, FLESHY FORMS
OF UTOPIANISM

ABOUT HOW GREAT WE WERE BEFORE.

AND WHAT WE NEED IS A NEW
FUTURE-ORIENTED HUMANISM

THAT CAN OFFER PEOPLE
THE VISION

THAT JULIAN HUXLEY IMAGINED.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): NOW IT'S TIME
FOR US AS RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS

OF THE PLANET, AS PART OF
A SPECIES, OF THE HUMAN SPECIES

TO THINK OF THESE WAYS OF BEING
EXISTING IN POST-HUMANIST WAYS.

MOST SOCIETIES IN THIS
HISTORICAL MOMENT

ON PLANET EARTH
ARE ANTHROPOCENTRIC,

WHICH IS A BIG WORD,
BUT IS VERY SIMPLE

WHAT IT MEANS.
IT MEANS THAT MOST SOCIETIES

DO SEE THE HUMAN
AS THE MOST EVOLVED BEING,

THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.

AT THIS POINT,
WE KNOW THAT THE MAIN

DANGER IS US. AND AN IDEA
THAT STILL PLACES THE HUMAN

AT THE VERY TOP OF THE HIERARCHY
IT'S A TYPE OF IDEOLOGY

THAT IS ONLY GOING NOT
TO BENEFIT US IN ANY WAY.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY
ENDANGERING US. NOW YOU HAVE

A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THE
TRANSHUMANIST MOVEMENT,

BUT THE ROOTS OF THE IDEA

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,
ARE A LITTLE WEAK,

BECAUSE THEY ROOT THEMSELVES

IN A SPECIFIC LINEAR TRADITION
OF WESTERN THINKING,

IN EUROPEAN THINKING
OF ENLIGHTENMENT.

BASED ON YOUR PROGRESS
AND BASED OFF THE IDEA

OF REASON, AND THESE IDEAS
ARE ENTANGLED

WITH RACISM AND SEXISM
AND HUMAN CENTRISM,

AND IDEA OF JUST KEEP WORKING
WITH THIS KIND OF FOUNDATION

FOR ME, IS VERY WEAK. BECAUSE
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE HUMAN,

YOU NEED TO THINK
IN PLURALISTIC TERMS.

YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT
THE HUMAN AS A PLURAL NOTION.

PHILOSOPHY IS A DEEP WEAPON

THAT CAN REALLY CHANGE
PEOPLE'S MINDSET.

THAT CAN CHANGE HOW
WE MAKE SCIENCE.

THAT CAN CHANGE HOW
WE PROGRESS AS A SOCIETY.

HOW WE CONCEIVE TECHNOLOGY.
AND THIS, OF COURSE, HAPPENS

IN A LOT OF INTERESTING FIELDS,
LIKE ECO-TECHNOLOGY,

SUSTAINABLE RESOURCE
ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

(BIRDS TRILLING)

(WHISTLING)

(WATER TRICKLING)

TO ME, I AM... LET'S SAY THAT
I DON'T HAVE A MELANCHOLIC

VISION OF THE PLANET.
I DON'T THINK THAT LIKE, OH...

"IT'S SO SAD THAT... "
IT'S NOT SAD, IT'S WHO WE ARE.

BUT WE NEED TO BE
COMPLETELY HONEST

ABOUT WHO WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO ONE SIDE, IT IS OUR CHOICE

IF WE WANT TO BE AROUND
AS A SPECIES OR NOT.

IT IS OUR CHOICE IF WE WANT
TO BE AT WAR,

AT AN EXISTENTIAL WAR
WITH ANYTHING AROUND US OR NOT.

AND THAT I SEE A LOT HAPPENING
WITHIN TRANSHUMANIST MOVEMENT.

WHERE ANYTHING,
EVEN THE CLIMATE CHANGE,

IS THOUGHT TO BE
SOLVED BY TECHNOLOGY

INSTEAD OF BY OUR OWN ACTION.

DON'T TRY TO SOLVE SOMETHING...
IF THERE IS A BIG SEQUOIA TREE

THAT HAS THOUSANDS OF YEARS,
IF YOU CUT THAT ONE DOWN,

THERE IS NO WAY
IT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED

WITH A TECHNOLOGICAL SEQUOIA.

IT'S THOUSANDS OF YEARS,
THE TREE... THEY'RE GONE.

THERE IS NO GOING BACK.
WE CANNOT ASK AN ALGORITHM

TO SOLVE SOMETHING
THAT WE ARE CAUSING,

BECAUSE THE GAIN
IS A DISPLACEMENT,

IS AN OBTURATION,
IS AN IGNORANCE,

SO WHY DO WE WANT TO BE IGNORANT

IF EXISTENCE IS ALL THAT
WE HAVE?

WHY DO WE WANT
TO BE IGNORANT?

- YEAH, IT'S KIND OF FLEEING
FROM FACING WHAT IS THERE.

- YEAH. TOTALLY.

(WATER TRICKLING)

(SERENE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): HELLO,
NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH):
WHAT IS YOUR PROJECT?

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(♪♪)