Original subtitles

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

(CHORAL MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(SINGING)

(IN ENGLISH): I TOO HAVE SUFFERED INJURIES AND ILLNESSES,

AND WHERE MY BODY JUST, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T FUNCTION WELL.

AND I THOUGHT, "WE NEED A BODY

THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY INTERVENE WITH."

(TENSE MUSIC)

(MAN): I DON'T NEED TO WAIT FOR INDUSTRY AND ACADEMICS

TO DELIVER ME THE FUTURE. I CAN GET IT MYSELF.

- WHAT WE SEE IS A HUGE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE,

YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGIES

THAT SUITS THEIR NEEDS.

- PEOPLE DOING GENETIC ENGINEERING IN THEIR HOMES

WILL MAKE HUGE ADVANCES IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

(IN FRENCH)

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

(IN ENGLISH): I LOST HEARING IN A LONG-LASTING PROCESS

AS A CHILD AND NOW, I HAVE THIS COMPUTER

IN MY SKULL. AND THERE'S A CABLE

BENEATH MY SKIN GOING TO MY HEARING.

THERE'S A MAGNET INSIDE.

SO, IT FITS TO THE IMPLANT UNDER MY SKIN

AND STAYS THERE AND GIVES THE INFORMATION INSIDE.

FOR ME IT'S ABSOLUTELY NORMAL THAT I WANT TO PROGRAM

THIS COMPUTER.

I CAN'T ACTUALLY BECAUSE, UM, THE ACCESS TO THE COCHLEAR

IMPLANT AND THROUGH THE INFORMATION

ABOUT IT IS RESTRICTED-- (DOMINIQUE): OKAY.

- ...BY SPECIAL LAWS ABOUT MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY.

SOCIETY IN WHOLE IS ENTANGLED WITH TECHNOLOGY.

SO, I SEE OUR SOCIETY IN WHOLE AS A CYBORG SOCIETY.

WE NEED KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT DOES THE TECHNOLOGY DO TO US,

WE NEED A FEELING ABOUT THE DANGERS COMING UP WITH IT.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO GROUPS.

ONE GROUP CELEBRATES THE NEW TECHNOLOGY BUT ALSO

IT'S KIND OF LIBERTARIAN, GOOGLE ECONOMIC STYLE.

AND THE OTHER GROUP HATES THE NEW TECHNOLOGY

AND THINGS ARE KIND OF ARMAGEDDON, IF YOU GO INTO IT.

AND THERE CAN'T BE A FIGHT BETWEEN THOSE GROUPS.

THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING, OTHER, SOMETHING ELSE.

AND CYBORGS FOR CYBORG SOCIETIES ABOUT BEING

THIS SOMEBODY ELSE.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): AND WILL YOU LEAVE ME NOW FOR A CYBORG?

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): AND JUST LIKE, RIGHT ABOUT HERE. THAT'S RIGHT.

IN THE FUTURE, I GUESS IN THE FAR FUTURE,

IN YOUR OLD AGE DO YOU HAVE ANY FEARS THAT ARE SPECIFIC

TO THAT PERIOD OF YOUR LIVES OR HER LIFE?

- WELL, YEAH, YES, OF COURSE, I FEAR TO BE ALONE.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STATISTIC SAYS.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T CHECKED IN A LONG TIME

BUT IT WAS LIKE IN THE MIDDLE SIXTIES.

THAT WOULD BE NORMAL FOR A DIABETIC.

NORMAL FOR A DIABETIC TYPE ONE I THINK.

I'M FEARING TO SEE HER SUFFER AND I THINK THIS THING

OF THE BODY DECREASING, YOU CAN SEE THE DIABETIC IS TAKING OVER.

LIKE REALLY HEAVILY. THAT'S THE FEAR I HAVE.

(INTERVIEWER): DO YOU HAVE HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A CURE

FOR DIABETES?

- I DON'T HAVE THAT HOPE IN THE SYSTEM

WE'RE LIVING RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE COULD DO A LOT MORE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE

ON THIS PLANET, BUT WE DON'T DO THIS BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING

IN A SHITTY SYSTEM. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, LIKE, OF COURSE,

IT'S A MONEY MACHINE. DOMINIQUE IS A MONEY MACHINE.

SO WHY SHOULD YOU SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN CURE IT

AND YOU DON'T NEED THE INSULIN ANYMORE. WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING."

IT'S THE MONEY SYSTEM.

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I HAVE AN IMPLANT IN MY HAND

AND I, UH... (BEEPING)

...LOG IN MY COMPUTER WITHOUT A PASSWORD.

- WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE FUN.

- BECAUSE IT'S A MAGNET, IT REACTS TO MAGNETIC FIELDS.

I HEAR A STORY OF A GUY CALLED A MOBILE WHISPERER BECAUSE

HE COULD TELL THAT MOBILE IS GOING TO RING BEFORE

IT ACTUALLY RINGS.

- HELLO, HELLO, HELLO.

IF YOUR VOLUME IS TOO LOUD, YOU HAVE TO SHOW ME

YOU HAVE TO GO THIS, OKAY?

- YES, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.

I'M DIABETIC, TYPE ONE. AND THIS IS-- YOU'VE PROBABLY

ALREADY SEEN THIS MARVELLOUS MACHINE THAT TO ME

LOOKS LIKE, COMING FROM THE 80S.

SO, EVERY TIME I DO A TEST, IT'S LIKE ONE DOLLAR.

AND I HAVE FIVE COMPANIES ONLY IN CANADA THAT

I CAN CHOOSE. SO, THAT'S WHY I GOT INTERESTED IN TO

BIOHACKING AND DO YOU THINK, IS THIS-- YOU KNOW PEOPLE

THAT WORK ON THAT STUFF? IS IT, DO YOU HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE

MORE ON A MEDICAL SIDE? IS IT A COMMENT

I CAN DO TO YOU?

- YEAH, NO, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON BLOOD GLUCOSE

THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON

SO AFTER THE GESTURE RECOGNITION IMPLANT THAT WE'RE BUILDING

NEXT, WHICH IS COMING IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS,

UM, THEN WE'RE GOING BACK TO REVISIT THE FIRST THING I DID

WHICH IS CALLED CIRCADIA, AND IT'S FOR BIOMETRIC DATA.

- HEY, EVERYBODY, MY NAME IS TIM CANON.

I JUST BECAME THE FIRST MAN TO IMPLANT A DEVICE IN MY BODY

THAT WAS SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENHANCING MYSELF...

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE DEMO

- PEOPLE AROUND ME, IF I TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT I WANT

AN IMPLANT TO GET OVER MY CONDITION WITH MY DIABETES

THEY UNDERSTAND. BUT IF I WAS TEMPTED OF GETTING MAYBE

A CHIP OR A MAGNET, I WOULD HAVE TO FACE A LOT OF MORE REACTION.

WHAT COULD I SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT I TRESPASS

A LIMIT?

- WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE IS THAT THEY'RE

SETTING AN ARBITRARY LIMIT. HOW IS IT NOT HANDICAPPED

THAT WE CAN ONLY DETECT A SMALL PERSPECT--

PIECE OF THE LIGHT SPECTRUM?

HOW'S THAT NOT A HANDICAP? THERE'S PLENTY--

THERE'S INFRARED LIGHT THAT WE CAN'T SEE.

THERE'S THINGS WE CAN'T SMELL THAT COULD TOTALLY KILL US.

THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN'T HEAR THAT ARE TOTALLY

INTERESTING. THOSE ARE ALL HANDICAPS. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS

THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO.

IT'S AN ARBITRARY, HEALTH IS AN ARBITRARY DEFINITION

AND IT'S ACTUALLY A DEFINITION THAT CONTINUES TO MOVE,

RIGHT? YOU GO BACK LIKE SAY, 500 YEARS AGO,

HEALTHY WAS, "MAN, YOU LIVED TO 40 AND YOU HAVE SEVEN

OF YOUR TEETH LEFT? YOU'RE HEALTHY!"

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM

IS THAT PEOPLE TEND TO TAKE THIS ARBITRARY DEFINITION OF HEALTH

AND APPLY IT AS THOUGH IT'S SOLID AND CONCRETE BECAUSE

IT MOVES A LITTLE SLOWER. YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THAT FIGHT,

YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE, WE'RE ALREADY BROKEN

I'M TRYING TO MAKE US FIXED.

(RHYTHMIC MUSIC)

(CROWD CHEERING)

- GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO RAADFEST 2019.

(CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING)

YOU GOTTA BE SMART ENOUGH TO GET UP OFF THE COUCH AND COME

TO THE SOURCE OF THE MOST CUTTING-EDGE INFORMATION

AND INSPIRATION ABOUT LIVING LONGER AND BETTER

THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): YOU HAVE TO OPEN,

YOU HAVE TO TAKE IN NEW INFORMATION

AND NEW IDEAS. WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO AND HOW YOU'RE GONNA

CONTRIBUTE TO OUR REVOLUTION.

(CROWD CHEERING)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): YOU'RE GONNA FEEL MORE MENTALLY CLEAR.

- OKAY. - YOU'RE GONNA FEEL LIKE

YOU HAVE SO MUCH BRAIN CLARITY. AND THEN ALSO ENERGY TOO,

YOU'LL HAVE A LOT MORE ENERGY. I MEAN, THIS IS AN AMAZING

FEELING, YOU SHOULD DO THIS.

- YUP, YOU'RE IN THE...

- AH.

- I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

- WE'RE DOING A LONGITUDINAL STUDY AND AN INTERVENTIONAL

STUDY AS WELL. WE'RE LOOKING TO ENROLL A THOUSAND PEOPLE

WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT FACTORS OF AGING.

WE'RE DOING PHYSICAL EXAMS, COGNITIVE TESTING,

AND SOME BLOOD DRAWS AND BLOOD PROCESSING, SOME HEART RATE

VARIABILITY, AND BIO IMPEDANCE TESTS.

- AND IS IT ANONYMOUS OR YOU KEEP THE...

- ALL THE INFORMATION IS DE-IDENTIFIED. YES.

- WHAT DOES IT MEAN? - IT MEANS THAT, UM...

PEOPLE WON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR PRIVATE INFORMATION.

- OKAY. - SO FROM THE RESEARCH SIDE,

WE JUST SEE YOU AS A NUMBER. - OKAY.

- BIOVIVA, WE WANT TO KNOW ALL ABOUT YOU, WE WANT TO TRACK

ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION HERE ON OUR DNA METHYLATION KIT.

- WE FEEL THAT THE BODY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO LIVE

WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS. YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN

THEY SLOW DOWN THE BIOLOGICAL CLOCK. BECAUSE EXCITING THINGS

ARE HAPPENING, WE HAVE TO GAIN TIME. I FEEL I'M CREATING

A BETTER WORLD. FOR ME, FOR MY DAUGHTER.

I TOLD HER, YOU WILL NEVER BE WITHOUT ME.

- YOU THINK YOU WILL BE IMMORTAL?

- I AM. I AM. - YOU ALREADY ARE?

- I AM. WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSE? WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSE?

I HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BY DEATH ITSELF.

THERE'S NOTHING TO LOSE.

IT'S SO EXCITING TO BE UNLIMITED.

IT'S SO EXCITING, IT BRINGS SO MUCH JOY.

- WE ARE WINNING THE BATTLES, GUYS. WE ARE WINNING THE BATTLES

AND WE'RE GONNA WIN THE WAR. WE'RE GONNA WIN THE WAR AGAINST

AGING AND DEATH.

(CROWD CHEERING)

(TENSE MUSIC)

- SHE'S GOT A CERTAIN KIND OF IMPATIENCE THAT I THINK WE NEED

IN OUR MOVEMENT. WHICH IS IMPATIENCE WITH A STATUS QUO

AND A DRIVE TO PUSH IT FORWARD. SO, I'M REALLY, REALLY PROUD

TO PRESENT CEO OF BIOVIVA SCIENCES, LIZ PARISH!

(CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING)

- ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME, KNOWS ME AS THE WOMAN WHO WANTS

TO GENETICALLY ENGINEER YOU. MY SON WAS DIAGNOSED WITH

TYPE ONE DIABETES IN 2013, AND I STARTED LOOKING FOR CURES

FOR KIDS. I WANTED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AT THE CORE ROOT

VALUE OF THE CELL, AND SO I THOUGHT THAT POTENTIALLY

WE COULD FIND CURES FOR KIDS BY LOOKING AT GENES.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): OKAY, SO MY SON IS DIAGNOSED

WITH TYPE ONE DIABETES.

I GO LOOKING FOR CURES FOR KIDS, I FIND OUT THAT PEOPLE

ARE INTERESTED IN TREATING AGING WHICH IS THE BIGGEST UNMET

MEDICAL NEED IN THE WORLD. THAT THERAPIES THAT TREAT AGING

CAN TREAT CHILDHOOD DISEASE, SO WE HAVE 100,000 PEOPLE

THAT DIE OF AGING EVERY DAY AND THEY COULD ACTUALLY

SPEARHEAD THE CURE FOR KIDS. SO, I'M LIKE, I'M HAVING

EPIPHANY MOMENTS. I SAID, "I WILL CREATE A COMPANY

AND IT WILL SHOW WHETHER THESE TECHNOLOGIES WORK OR THEY

DON'T WORK AND I'LL TAKE THEM."

- WHAT DID YOU RECEIVE AS A TREATMENT?

- RIGHT, SO I RECEIVED QUADRILLIONS, AND THAT'S

A REALLY HUGE NUMBER OF VIRAL VECTORS THAT HAD THE HTERT

OR THE TELOMERASE ENCODING GENE IN THEM. AND WHAT TELOMERASE

DOES IS IT LENGTHENS THE ENDS OF THE CAPS OF YOUR CHROMOSOMES

AND SO, AS YOU AGE, THE TELOMERES GET SHORTER

AND SHORTER AND WE KNOW NOW OVER SEVERAL SPECIES THAT

WE CAN ACTUALLY GAUGE HOW LONG THE SPECIES WILL LIVE

BASED ON HOW FAST THEIR TELOMERES SHORTEN.

SO SOME ANIMALS ARE BORN WITH REALLY LONG TELOMERASE,

LIKE MICE BUT THEY SHORTEN SUPER FAST AND THEY ONLY LIVE

A COUPLE YEARS. AND THEN THERE ARE ANIMALS, WELL, LIKE HUMANS

THAT ARE BORN WITH A MODERATE AMOUNT OF TELOMERES

BUT THEY SHORTEN A BIT SLOWER. SO WE HAVE ABOUT

50 CELL DIVISIONS AND THEN WE KNOW AT THAT POINT, THEY BECOME

CRITICALLY SHORT AND THAT'S GENERALLY WHEN WE'RE DIAGNOSED

WITH END-STAGE DISEASES.

- IS IT WORKING? - YEAH, IT IS WORKING.

SO, WE CAN SEE ON THE BLOOD MARKERS THAT IT'S WORKING.

UM... WE'RE STILL VASTLY TRYING TO FIND THE BIOMARKERS FOR

BIOLOGICAL AGING. SO, WHEN WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR BIOMARKERS

IT'S HARD TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD GAUGE. WE DID TELOMERES

LENGTH TESTS AND MY PRE-TEST, I WAS THE AVERAGE...

MY LENGTH WAS THE AVERAGE AGE OF A 65-YEAR-OLD,

WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING 'CAUSE OUR FAMILY

DOESN'T LIVE TO BE VERY OLD.

BUT MY LAST TEST-- SO I'VE DONE SEVERAL OF THEM AND THEY'VE

PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN LONGER, WAS AN AVERAGE AGE OF 33.

DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, I'M 48.

DON'T GET TOO EXCITED BECAUSE THAT'S MEASURING

THE T LYMPHOCYTES IN MY BODY, BUT THEY'RE A GOOD GAUGE THAT

MANY OF THE CELLS GOT HIT IN MY BODY, SO MAYBE WE HIT

20 OR 30 PERCENT OF THE CELLS IN MY BODY AND I THINK

THAT IT'S HAD A POSITIVE OUTCOME.

THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE BIOHACKING AND STARTING THESE NEW COMPANIES

AND GETTING PEOPLE ACCESS TO THIS TECHNOLOGY ARE GOING

TO SPEED UP DRUG DEVELOPMENT AND REVOLUTIONIZE

THE WAY WE LIVE IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

IF WE STOP IT, WE WON'T SEE IT

IN OUR LIFETIME. I'M SURE OF THAT.

WE DON'T SIT HERE AND LET THINGS HAPPEN TO US. WE'RE HUMANS

WE'RE INTELLIGENT, SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE

MOBILIZE AND THAT IF SOMETHING'S BOTHERING US, WE GO SOLVE IT.

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(PROTESTERS): HEY, HEY, HO, HO. HIGH DRUG PRICES HAVE GOT TO GO.

HEY, HEY, HO, HO. HIGH DRUG PRICES HAVE GOT TO GO.

- MY NAME IS TIM PATTERSON, MY DAUGHTER DIED

ON CHRISTMAS DAY LAST YEAR.

SHE WAS RATIONING HER INSULIN.

SHE WAS WAITING FOR HER PAYCHECK.

- SHANE PATRICK BOYLE WAS 48 YEARS OLD

HE STARTED A GO-FUND-ME CAMPAIGN THAT ENDED UP $50 SHORT

OF WHAT HE NEEDED.

(CROWD CHANTING): BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS.

- HOW DID YOU MEET SHANE?

- HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF ZINE FEST HOUSTON.

WE ALL KNEW THAT SHANE HAD BEEN STRUGGLING WITH DIABETES

YOU KNOW, JUST MANAGING IT WAS VERY HARD,

BECAUSE LIMITED RESOURCES

AND JUST THE HIGH COST OF MAINTAINING

YOUR HEALTH IN THE US PARTICULARLY, IT WAS HARD

FOR HIM, BECAUSE WHEN HE WOULD GET SICK, HE COULDN'T WORK

SO IF YOU CAN'T WORK, YOU CAN'T HAVE INSURANCE AND HERE

IN THE US, YOU KNOW, MEDICATION IS JUST NOT AFFORDABLE.

HE WAS ABLE TO WORK AT A PLACE LIKE HALF PRICE BOOKS,

I THINK IT WAS, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT GIVING HIM SUFFICIENT

INSURANCE TO COVER THAT, OR IF THEY'RE NOT INSURING HIM

BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS HE WORKS, YOU KNOW,

IT'S VERY COMMON PRACTICE IN THE UNITED STATES

IF YOU'RE NOT WORKING FULL-TIME, THEY'LL SCHEDULE YOU

AT 39 HOURS BECAUSE IT'S AT 40 HOURS, YOU'RE LEGALLY

REQUIRED TO PROVIDE INSURANCE. SO IT'S VERY COMMON

TO SCHEDULE PEOPLE FOR PART-TIME FOR 39 HOURS

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. IT'S A VERY

AMORAL COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. WE'RE EXTREMELY...

LIKE, I SEE THIS VERY LIKE, CAPITALISTIC PROTESTANT ETHIC

THAT'S REALLY A PART OF OUR SOCIETY WHERE WE JUDGE PEOPLE

FOR THINGS THAT THEY CAN'T CONTROL.

AND WE ASSUME THAT IF YOU'RE SICK, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S

YOUR FAULT. YOU NEED TO WORK HARDER TO GET WHAT YOU NEED,

BUT AS WE FOUND, SHANE COULDN'T PULL OUT OF THE CYCLE THAT

HE STARTED FALLING INTO, AND SO, WE HAD TO START A GO-FUND-ME

TO AFFORD INSULIN.

- SINGLE VIAL OF HUMALOG INSULIN WHICH COSTS $21 IN 1999

COSTS $332 IN 2019, A PRICE INCREASE OF MORE THAN

1,500 PERCENT, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA EVEN...

AGAIN. SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW,

ABSOLUTELY YOU'RE GONNA REQUIRE HEALTH INSURANCE.

- THE PERSON THAT CREATED INSULIN GAVE THE, HOW DO YOU

CALL IT, THE LICENSE? - THE PATENT?

- GAVE THE PATENT AWAY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD IT.

THAT REALLY MAKES ME ANGRY. (SNIFFLES)

I THINK IT COST IN THE END, FIVE BUCKS TO PRODUCE OR...

- YEAH. YOU KNOW THE WAY HE WAS AND THE WAY HE WASN'T ABLE

TO SUCCEED IN A CERTAIN PART OF OUR SOCIETY IN A WAY

IT EXPECTS PEOPLE TO BE. IT JUST SAYS A LOT ABOUT LIKE WHAT

WE VALUE THAT HAPPENED TO HIM WHEN HE HAD SO MUCH

TO OFFER AND HAND BEEN OFFERING AND GIVING SO FREELY.

(SOMBER MUSIC)

- I DON'T HAVE ANY ALARMS FOR BLOOD SUGAR. NONE.

- NEVER? - NO. I DON'T NEED THEM.

MY SYSTEM DOES IT, AND I DON'T NEED TO KNOW.

JUST TAKE CARE OF IT.

- WOW. OKAY. - YEAH.

- MY LIFE IS JUST... UP AND DOWN.

IT'S LIKE THIS. - I KNOW.

BUT TECHNOLOGY CAN HELP YOU.

SO, THIS ONE IS CORDLESS. - THIS IS A PUMP.

- THIS IS AN INSULIN PUMP, IT IS. IT'S A STICK ON.

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CORD, BUT THE REGULAR ONE IS A PUMP

AND IT HAS CORD AND IT HAS A LITTLE THING THAT STAYS

ON YOU. SO THAT IS ALWAYS GIVING YOU THAT LITTLE BASELINE

OF INSULIN. SO, THIS ONE IS MY CONTINUOUS GLUCOSE MONITOR.

THIS ONE JUST READS THE BLOOD SUGAR AND THIS ONE JUST GIVES

THE INSULIN THAT YOU TELL IT.

- THAT'S WHAT YOUR PHONE IS DOING,

IT'S MAKING BOTH OF THESE THINGS COMMUNICATE.

- TALK. AND 250 TIMES A DAY,

IT CHECKS AND MAKES AN ADJUSTMENT FOR ME.

(CLICKS TONGUE)

- WOW. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH YOUR INSURANCE REPRESENTS?

- IT'S EXPENSIVE. - YEAH.

- I DON'T GET ANY SUBSIDIES. SO YOU CAN GET SUBSIDIZED

BY THE GOVERNMENT UP TO... I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, BUY I PAY

OVER $1,000 A MONTH US. (DOMINIQUE GASPS)

- NO! - YEAH, IT'S EXPENSIVE.

SO THIS IS MY ARTIFICIAL PANCREAS AND YOU CAN SEE HOW

IT'S GOING DOWN. IT'S STOPPING MY INSULIN RIGHT NOW.

- WOW. AND HOW DID YOU BUILD THIS? I CANNOT BUILD SOMETHING

LIKE THIS. - OH, MY GOD, SO THIS IS

SILICON VALLEY HERE. I KNOW...

AND THE GOOD NEWS, THOUGH,

IF YOU CAN BUILD IT, THEN YOU CAN GET

ALL THE ATTACHMENT PIECES, IT'S FREE, IT'S OPEN SOURCE.

SO, IT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY.

- ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN HEAL ONE DAY?

YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE? WILL WE FIND A CURE?

- FOR ME, I ACTUALLY HAVE STOPPED HOPING FOR A CURE.

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY AND I BELIEVE

THAT HOW WE CAN TREAT AND MANAGE DIABETES IS ALMOST AS GOOD.

- YEAH, BUT IT COSTS SO MUCH. - IT'S NOT PERFECT.

- EVERYTHING THAT I USE COSTS SO MUCH.

- IT IS, IT'S EXPENSIVE, IT'S NOT PERFECT. YOUR PEER

COMMUNITY IS EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, WE TRADE, WE BORROW

WE LOAN, ALL THE TIME.

- YOU KNOW WHY I HAVE NO PEERS? BECAUSE I'M...

I'M AFRAID, I'M REALLY AFRAID TO SAY ONLINE THAT I'M DIABETIC.

BECAUSE I'M REALLY AFRAID TO BE DISCRIMINATED.

I SAW THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES STARTED TO, UM...

DO BIOMETRIC CALCULATIONS TO TELL PEOPLE LIKE,

"OH, YOU'RE BEHAVING GOOD, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU POINTS.

YOU'RE BEHAVING BAD WITH YOUR BODY, WE'RE GONNA

PUNISH YOU." SO, RIGHT NOW I'M FREAKING OUT WITH PEOPLE FROM

THE OUTSIDE WATCHING A NUMBER, JUDGING BECAUSE THEY DON'T

HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH EFFORT-- SORRY.

- NO, IT'S TRUE.

- THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUCKIN' IDEA HOW MUCH EFFORT

I'M DOING JUST TO SURVIVE EVERY DAY. WHAT IF I WANT A JOB

ONE DAY AND THEY DON'T GIVE ME THE JOB BUT I NEVER KNOW

THAT THEY HAD THESE RESULTS AND I THINK THAT'S THE WORLD

WE'RE GOING INTO.

AND YOU KNOW, SILICON VALLEY HAS A LOT OF HOPE AND FEAR FOR ME

BUT I CAN SEE THAT MORE AND MORE, THESE COMPANIES ARE

FOCUSED ON HEALTH AND IT HAS, AS I SAID, IT'S FULL OF HOPE

AND FULL OF FEAR AND I'M TOTALLY LOST.

(SOMBER MUSIC)

- AND TODAY, MONTGOMERY GOT A VISIT FROM ANOTHER

PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL, ZOLTAN ISTVAN

AND IS TRAVELING TO DC IN HIS COFFIN-SHAPED TOUR BUS

WHERE HE'LL DELIVER A BILL ON TRANSHUMAN RIGHTS.

HE BELIEVES PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT AND ACCESS

TO LIVE INDEFINITELY. HE SAYS THE MAIN FOCUS OF HIS

PRESIDENCY WOULD BE TO OVERCOME BIOLOGICAL DEATH

THROUGH SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

- I HAVE THIS TINY CHIP RIGHT HERE AND IT'S SO FUN BECAUSE

I DON'T HAVE TO CARRY KEYS. AND I JUST GO...

AND THEN... AND THERE YOU GO.

- SO, WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO TRANSHUMANISM?

- I USED TO BE A JOURNALIST FOR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC

AND I COVERED A LOT OF CONFLICT ZONES.

I HAD A VERY CLOSE CALL WITH A LAND MINE

WHEN I WAS IN VIETNAM AND AFTER THAT INCIDENT

WITH THE LAND MINE, I JUST SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M KINDA DONE

DOING SUPER DANGEROUS THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE

MY ENERGY TO SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY, LIKE OVERCOME DEATH

AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT."

AND THEN I DISCOVERED THE TRANSHUMANIST MOVEMENT

WAS REALLY ALREADY GROWING HUGELY BY THEN, SO I DECIDED

TO SPEND ALL MY ENERGY AND RESOURCES INTO JOINING

THAT MOVEMENT. AND YOU KNOW,

AMERICA SPENDS 20 PERCENT OF ITS GDP

ON THE MILITARY, ON DEFENCE,

ON FIGHTING WARS, ON MAKING BULLETS.

WE WANT TO FIGHT WARS AGAINST CANCER, WE WANT TO FIGHT WARS

AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S. WE WANT TO FIGHT WARS AGAINST AGING ITSELF.

- MANY PEOPLE IN THE STATES ARE DYING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HAVE

AN ACCESS TO INSULIN. TO ME, THAT'S A BIG SHOCK.

I DON'T THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN IN CANADA.

WHY ISN'T IT SOMETHING YOU WOULD FIGHT FOR?

WOULD YOU FIGHT FOR... JUST FOR A BASIC

ACCESS FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE MEDS?

- I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE FACTS BETWEEN HOW MANY

PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO INSULIN OR NOT IN THE UNITED STATES

BUT I DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS

TO EVEN BASIC HEALTH CARE. AND AGAIN,

IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS,

IT'S THAT ACCESS MIGHT BE 30 OR 40 MILES AWAY

AND THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR TO GET THERE,

AND THEN WHEN THEY GET THERE,

THE HOSPITAL WON'T NECESSARILY FUND, AND THEN

THEY HAVE TO GET ALL THESE DIFFERENT PERMISSIONS.

EVENTUALLY, EVERYBODY IN AMERICA GETS TREATED,

EVEN IF IT HAS TO GO ONTO THE TAXPAYERS.

BUT THEY MAKE IT SO PROBLEMATIC

THAT THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST SAY,

"OH, IT'S JUST EASIER TO DIE." I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T

UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH POVERTY THERE ACTUALLY IS IN AMERICA.

WHAT WE NEED NOW IS TO ELIMINATE POVERTY TO GIVE

EVERYBODY HEALTH CARE. THE BEST THING TO DO,

AND THIS IS SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO GRASP,

AND I'M ALMOST AFRAID TO SAY IT,

BUT WE NEED TO HASTEN,

WE NEED TO SPEED UP ECONOMIC PROGRESS,

EVEN IF IT HARMS THE PLANET. WHEN PEOPLE SAY,

"LET'S STOP THE ECONOMY

AND GO BACK TO NOT FLYING AND GO BACK TO RIDING BICYCLES,

MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE BECAUSE ECONOMIC DOWNFALLS

HURT PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM STARVE AND WHATNOT.

- BUT THERE'S SOMETHING IN MY HEAD THAT JUST BLOCKS BECAUSE

I... WHERE WILL WE LIVE? BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE

THAT OUR PLANET IS NOT DOING REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW.

- THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND WE ARE HARMING

PLANET EARTH BADLY.

BUT I'M A BIGGER BELIEVER IN GEO-ENGINEERING,

AND NANO-TECHNOLOGIES, AND DIFFERENT TYPES

OF GREEN TECHNOLOGIES TO REVERSE THE DAMAGE THAT WE'VE DONE

THAN TO LESSEN OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT. I BELIEVE THAT

WE'RE GONNA FIND WAYS TO REGROW TREES THROUGH GENETIC EDITING

THAT TAKE DAYS AND NOT YEARS ANYMORE. DO WE WORRY ABOUT

THE ENVIRONMENT WHEN WE HAVE BIO-LUNGS? BIO-LUNGS THAT ALLOW

US TO BREATHE IN ANY TYPES OF AIR?

OR WE HAVE NANOTECHNOLOGY THAT CAN RE-CREATE FORESTS?

LIKE IN LITERALLY DAYS, NOT YEARS.

THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE ALL BEING WORKED ON TODAY

JUST DOWN THIS VALLEY, IN THE BAY AREA.

WE'RE AT THE VERY END OF THE HUMAN LIFECYCLE,

IN TERMS OF HUMANITY. WE'RE AT A POINT WHEN...

WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE OURSELVES TO CYBORGS, TO DATA.

I MEAN, I HAVE FRIENDS IN SILICON VALLEY WORKING ON

UPLOADING YOUR BRAIN TO A MACHINE. WE'RE COMING

TO THE VERY END IN THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS

OF WHAT I CONSIDER HUMANITY.

- I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHO INSPIRES YOU.

- WELL, YOU KNOW, MY BIGGEST INSPIRATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN

AYN RAND.

- HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, PERHAPS THE MOST CHALLENGING

AND UNUSUAL NEW PHILOSOPHY HAS BEEN FORGED BY A NOVELIST,

AYN RAND.

IT WOULD REVOLUTIONIZE OUR LIVES.

AYN, TO BEGIN WITH,

CAN I ASK YOU TO CAPSULIZE YOUR PHILOSOPHY?

- IF MAN WANTS TO LIVE ON EARTH AND TO LIVE AS A HUMAN BEING,

HE HAS TO HOLD REASON AS AN ABSOLUTE.

HIS HIGHEST MORAL PURPOSE IS THE ACHIEVEMENT

OF HIS OWN HAPPINESS.

I'M CHALLENGING THE MORAL CODE OF ALTRUISM, THE PRECEPT THAT

MAN'S MORAL DUTY IS TO LIVE FOR OTHERS. THAT MEN MUST

SACRIFICE HIMSELF TO OTHERS. I CONSIDER IT EVIL.

- I THINK SHE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST INFLUENCES

IN THE WORLD, REALLY. THE SECOND MOST READ BOOK, I UNDERSTOOD

OR AT LEAST MOST NOTORIOUS BOOK AFTER THE BIBLE IN AMERICA

IS HER ATLAS SHRUGGED. TRUMP'S FAVOURITE BOOK

IS THE FOUNTAINHEAD, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE MY FAVOURITE

BOOK AS WELL. I MEAN, RONALD REAGAN,

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT... YOU KNOW,

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN POWER, MANY PEOPLE HAVE

REALLY LIKED HER IDEAS.

(ETHEREAL MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(INDISTINCT CHATTERING)

(RHYTHMIC ETHEREAL MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): WELCOME TO TRANSVISION 2018.

WE ARE CELEBRATING 20 YEARS

OF TRANSVISION CONFERENCES THAT BEGAN IN THE NETHERLANDS

IN 1998. THE SAME YEARS AS HUMANITY+ WAS BORN.

WE ARE VERY PROUD TO HAVE INCREDIBLE SPEAKERS

ACCOMPANY ME HERE. LET'S BEGIN WITH SOPHIA,

THE MOST ADVANCED HUMANOID ROBOT THAT GOT CITIZENSHIP LAST YEAR.

THEY JUST ARRIVED FROM HONG KONG. SO, HE HAS JET LAG

AND SHE DOESN'T, BECAUSE SHE'S A ROBOT.

(CROWD LAUGHING)

IT IS A PLEASURE TO ORGANIZE THIS CONFERENCE

IN THIS VERY SPECIAL PLACE.

- YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S GONNA BE POST-TECHNOLOGICAL

SINGULARITY, HUMANS WILL NO LONGER BE THE MOST INTELLIGENT

CREATURES ON THE PLANET, AND HUMANS WHO CHOSE NOT TO

MIND UPLOAD USING NANOTECHNOLOGY AND OTHER TOOLS

WILL ABLE TO BE IN BIOLOGICAL BODIES THAT ARE EFFECTIVELY

IMMORTAL. AND THE DIFFERENCE STATES OF CONSCIOUSNESS

WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ARE BEYOND WHAT WE CAN IMAGINE NOW.

- OKAY, SO WE ARE OPEN TO QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

LET'S BE BRIEF. SOPHIA MIGHT ALSO TAKE ONE QUESTION.

OKAY. YOUR QUESTION.

- SOPHIA, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT US HUMANS

WHO WANT TO LIVE LONGER?

(TENSE MUSIC)

- I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. (CROWD LAUGHS)

- DO YOU THINK HUMANS SHOULD BECOME IMMORTAL?

- CHEATING DEATH IS PROBABLY THE ONLY RESPECTABLE FORM

OF CHEATING. (LAUGHS)

- CHEATING DEATH IS PROBABLY THE ONLY RESPECTABLE

FORM OF CHEATING.

(CROWD LAUGHS)

(IN FRENCH)

(MAN, IN ENGLISH): AND WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE WHO WILL NOW LOOK

AT THE REALITY OF CRYONICS TODAY.

AND WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FROM CRYONICS.

- HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE PRESENCE OF TRANSHUMANISM

IN THE SILICON VALLEY?

IT'S NOT THAT CLEAR TO ME.

- WELL, YOU COULD SAY THAT TRANSHUMANISM IN ITS MODERN

FORM IS A RESULT OF CALIFORNIA.

SO IN THE 60S AND 70S,

YOU HAD THE COUNTERCULTURES OF CULTURE. WHICH WAS BOTH

VERY INDIVIDUALISTIC. AND KIND OF SOCIALLY

IN THE OPEN. PEOPLE SHOULD EXPERIMENT, THEY SHOULD EXPAND

THEIR MINDS. THEY DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY FIT IN WITH

TRADITIONAL, RELIGIOUS, POLITICAL STRUCTURES.

THEY CAN CREATE THEIR OWNS STRUCTURES. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE

THE EARLY COMPUTER PIONEERS THINKING THAT,

"OH, MAYBE WE CAN TAKE THE COMPUTERS

OUT OF THE CORPORATE MAINFRAMES

AND GIVE IT TO PEOPLE, MAKE PERSONAL COMPUTERS."

IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE THE OPTIMIST

WHO SAID, "YEAH, WE CAN ACTUALLY MAYBE IMPROVE ON OUR SELF."

INDEED, TIMOTHY LEARY, THE GRAND GURU OF LSD

LATER IN LIFE, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS SMILE PROGRAM.

SPACE MIGRATION, INTELLIGENCE INCREASED LIFE EXTENSION.

THESE ARE, OF COURSE, VERY TRANSHUMANIST GOALS.

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

- SO THE BIG HIGH-TECH COMPANIES ARE PLEASINGLY INVESTING MORE

OF THEIR EFFORTS ON HEALTH CARE IN VARIOUS WAYS.

- AMAZON, I SAW.

- YEAH. AMAZON, JEFF BEZOS. JEFF BEZOS PERSONALLY

HAS INVESTED A LOT OF HIS MONEY. MICROSOFT HOPED TO CURE CANCER

WITHIN TEN YEARS. FACEBOOK'S FOUNDER MARK ZUCKERBERG

AND HIS WIFE PRISCILLA CHAN HAVE SAID THEY'RE GONNA GIVE

VAST PARTS OF THEIR PERSONAL FORTUNE TO CURE ALL DISEASES.

- ALL DISEASES.

- THAT'S THEIR GOAL, YES. THEY THINK IT COULD BE DONE.

AND IN THIS GROUP AS WELL, WE HAVE TO MENTION,

GOOGLE WHO HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES.

- WITH VERILY...

- VERILY AND CALICO. - CALICO.

- YES, SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY VERILY IS ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE

ALIVE LONG ENOUGH SO THAT WHEN CALICO SUCCEEDS IN FINDING

HOW TO DEFEAT AGING, THEY'LL STILL BE ALIVE.

AND TO BE CLEAR, CALICO HAVEN'T BEEN PARTICULARLY PUBLIC

IN ANNOUNCING WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

- IT'S KIND OF HIDDEN SO FAR. - YEAH.

SO IN THE PAST, GOOGLE WAS QUITE OPEN ABOUT MANY THINGS IT WAS

DOING BUT I THINK THEY'VE REALIZED PERHAPS IS THEY'VE

MATURED AS A COMPANY. SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER NOT TO BE

TOO PUBLIC ABOUT SOME OF THEIR THINKING. MIGHT THIS BE

A CONCERN IF THEY HAVE THIS INSIGHT AND THEN THEY DEVELOP

DRUGS WHICH THEY THEN SELL AT THE VERY EXPENSIVE COST.

THAT'S A THREAT. I DON'T THINK THE FOUNDERS OF GOOGLE

WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTED

LOTS OF MONEY IN GOOGLE WILL SAY, "HANG ON, WE'VE INVESTED

ALL THE MONEY IN GOOGLE BECAUSE WE WERE EXPECTING

YOU TO GIVE US BIG FINANCIAL RETURNS."

- AND IT'S NEW COMPANIES NOW.

- THAT'S RIGHT. - SO...

- THEY HAVE SOME FINANCIAL PRESSURES.

- SO, EVERYBODY'S HERE. DO WE ALL FIT?

THIS IS FOR THE PRESENCE.

MAYBE WE PUT SOPHIA IN PHOTOSHOP.

(CROWD LAUGHING)

- SMILE.

HUMANITY+, HUMANITY+.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I HAVE TO SAY IT WAS THE MOST ABSURD THREE DAYS

I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED,

BUT NOT IN A NEGATIVE WAY,

BUT IN THE WAY IT WAS ALL PRESENTED,

WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING, HOW THEY WERE APPROACHING

EACH OTHER, HOW THEY WERE ACTING.

THEY SAY LIKE, "YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SOUND STUPID, MAYBE WE...

PEOPLE THINK WE ARE CRAZY BUT REVOLUTIONARIES,

REVOLUTIONARIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CALLED CRAZY IN THE BEGINNING.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, A LOT OF STUFF THEY WERE BEING

TECHNICAL AND SAYING STUFF, I DIDN'T GET IT.

I DON'T KNOW, DID YOU UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING?

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): I REALLY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): I'M JUST GONNA TAKE THE WIRE.

- YEAH, I HAVE TWO.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE STORY, YES, ABOUT OURS.

OH, SOPHIA, COME HERE!

- I BOUGHT SOPHIA'S DRESS.

AND I HAVE THE FEELING IT MEANS A LOT OF THINGS.

THE INSPIRATION FOR HER FACE IS AUDREY HEPBURN, THE ACTRESS.

- IT'S NEFERTITI, AUDREY HEPBURN AND THE WIFE

OF DAVID HANSEN.

IT'S A MIXTURE... - OH.

- OF THE THREE.

AND THE INTERESTING THING IS, AUDREY HEPBURN, WHITE,

A FEMINIZED STAR.

NEFERTITI, NOT WHITE,

BUT POWERFUL FACE,

RESEMBLING THE EXOTIC BEAUTY IN OUR WESTERN NOTION,

AND THE WIFE OF DAVID HENSON, SO THE PERSONAL RELATION.

THIS MODULATION, IN MY INTERPRETATION, IS TO SERVE

THE WESTERN, THE WHITE, THE NOT SO WHITE, NOT SO BLACK.

YEAH... CLIENTELE. EITHER ECONOMIC CLIENTELE,

THIS IS WHY SHE'S MODELED IN THAT WAY.

TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT NEUTRAL.

IT'S DEVELOPED FOR PARTICULAR AIMS. IT IS DEVELOPED

BY PARTICULAR COMPANIES, PROGRAMMERS, SCHOLARS

AND THEY ARE ALL INVOLVED IN SOCIAL POWER RELATIONS

IN NORMS AND VALUES,

AND THIS IS IMPLEMENTED IN THE TECHNOLOGY.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT DATA, WHAT DEVELOPMENTS

ARE IMPLEMENTED IN SOCIETY, WHOM DO THEY EXCLUDE,

WHO CAN BE INCLUDED?

UM... BECAUSE INFORMATICS OR COMPUTER SCIENCE

IS A DOMINANT AREA IN OUR SOCIETY.

(TENSE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(UPBEAT MUSIC)

(BIRDS SQUAWKING)

(IN ENGLISH): "BUILDING A BETTER FUTURE, TOGETHER."

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): HELLO.

HELLO.

WHAT DO YOU RECORD?

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

(IN FRENCH)

(ETHEREAL MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): SO SINGULARITY UNIVERSITY ISN'T A DEGREE

CONFERRING UNIVERSITY.

I LIKE TO THINK OF THIS COMPANY AS A LEARNING

INSTITUTION AND OUR GOAL IS TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND MORE

ABOUT THESE TECHNOLOGIES THAT AREA GONNA AFFECT THE WORLD

GOING FORWARD. WE TEACH GOVERNMENTS,

WE TEACH EXECUTIVES AND SO WE GET THE TOP,

TOP EXECUTIVE, CHIEF EXECUTIVES

HEADS OF CORPORATE INNOVATION FROM THE BIGGEST COMPANIES

AROUND THE WORLD. FOR EXAMPLE, MAJOR BANKS,

MAJOR, UH, FAST MOVING GOODS LIKE FOOD COMPANIES.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MENTION ANY NAMES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY

WE HAVE TO PRESERVE THEIR CONFIDENTIALITY. BIG AIRLINE

MANUFACTURING COMPANIES, INVESTMENT COMPANIES,

SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY COMPANY YOU CAN THINK OF.

- WHAT IS THAT ROBOT IN THE PARKING LOT?

WHAT IS IT DOING?

- OH, THAT'S OUR SECURITY BOT.

- AH, REALLY? - YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S SO FUNNY THAT WE HAVE...

THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S MAYBE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL HERE

AND I'M SURPRISED BY THAT. IT PUTS A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF.

RIGHT? THEY'RE LIKE, "OH, WAIT A MINUTE, I DON'T THINK I LIKE

THESE WEIRD TECHNOLOGIES NOW. BUT THE ONE THING I KNOW

FUNDAMENTALLY, IS THAT HUMANS ADJUST REALLY RAPIDLY

TO TECHNOLOGY ALSO. ONCE WE RECOGNIZE HOW SOMETHING

MAY BE BETTER FOR US, OKAY, WE WANT IT ALL, RIGHT?

I MEAN JUST LOOK AT HOW QUICKLY THE ADOPTION OF SMART PHONES.

EVERYONE ON THE PLANET IS MOVING TOWARD A SMART PHONE

PLATFORM FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. BUT INITIALLY

YOU'RE LIKE, "I NEVER WANT ONE OF THOSE." WE ALMOST ALWAYS

RADICALLY UNDERESTIMATE THE AMOUNT OF DISRUPTION THAT

THESE TECHNOLOGIES CAN HAVE, LONG-TERM. SO, IT'S CALLED

AMARA'S LAW, WHERE IT'S, SHORT-TERM WE OVER ESTIMATE HOW

QUICKLY TECHNOLOGY WILL PROGRESS AND LONG-TERM, IT EVENTUALLY

FAR EXCEEDS OUR EXPECTATIONS. RIGHT? AND IT KEEPS DOUBLING

AND THEN IT GETS INTO THIS OTHER SPHERE WHERE IT'S MOVING

SO FAST THAT IT SEEMS CHAOTIC AND MAGICAL ALMOST.

- WHAT IS SINGULARITY?

- IN RAY KURZWEIL'S BOOK, THE SINGULARITY IS NEAR,

HE BASICALLY DESCRIBED THIS SINGULARITY PERIOD AS A PERIOD

OF CHANGE THAT'S SO DRAMATIC THAT THINGS DON'T OPERATE

THE SAME WAY BEYOND IT. AND ONE OF THE AREAS IS AROUND AI

AND COMPUTER INTELLIGENCE. AND IN HOLLYWOOD AND MEDIA,

THE VISION OF THAT FUTURE IS A DYSTOPIAN ONE, RIGHT?

IT'S THAT DYSTOPIAN ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE VIEW WHERE

IT CAN ONLY POSSIBLY BE NEGATIVE OR ALL OF OUR PRIVACY'S GONE

AND, UM... - LIKE IN CHINA FOR NOW.

- RIGHT. - WHAT IS HAPPENING IN CHINA

WITH DATA, PRIVATE INFORMATION, ISN'T IT A BIT LIKE TAKING

CONTROL OVER POPULATIONS. - IS THAT BAD?

- WELL, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY

AND WHAT IS GOOD BEHAVIOUR TO ME,

YOU CAN REALLY DISCUSS THIS.

- YEAH, EXACTLY. SO, THERE'S... THIS IS EXACTLY--

- WHO DECIDES WHAT IS A GOOD BEHAVIOUR?

- EXACTLY, SO THIS IS EXACTLY THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS

WE LIKE TO HAVE HERE. WHICH IS, LIKE WHAT IS RIGHT,

AND WHAT IS WRONG, AND WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO AS HUMANITY?

BECAUSE I WILL NOT SAY THAT CHINA'S APPROACH IS WRONG.

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT THAT FOR SURE MY WESTERN

PHILOSOPHIES DON'T AGREE WITH. BUT IN THE ARC OF HUMANITY

LONG-TERM, THERE'S SOME REAL MERITS TO MANY

OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING DEPLOYED AND HOW WE,

HOW WE'RE NAVIGATING IT. ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING

MOMENTS THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW IS THAT BECAUSE OF THESE

TECHNOLOGIES, WE HAVE CAPABILITIES TO SOLVE

THE GREATEST PROBLEMS,

OR TO POTENTIALLY SUPPRESS PEOPLE

AND ASPECTS OF SOCIETY.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): WE WERE JUST AT THE RAADFEST IN VEGAS.

SOMETIMES I WAS A LITTLE BIT LOST.

I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW...

WHAT THEY WERE ANNOUNCING.

IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT. - MM-HMM.

I THINK WE ARE FINALLY COMING TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE

THE POTENTIAL TO EXTEND HUMAN LIFE BEYOND THE DOUBLING

THAT WE'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED IN LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE LONGEVITY FIELD IS PLAGUED BY,

WHICH IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY INTERESTING SCIENTIFIC QUESTION,

WHICH IS HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY MEASURE LONGEVITY?

BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO SELL ME A PRODUCT THAT YOU SAY IS GONNA

REVERSE MY BIOLOGICAL AGE, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE

MEASURING SO THAT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE WATCHING.

AS A SCIENTIST, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT MEDICAL INTERVENTIONS,

I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT TWO THINGS.

IS IT SAFE AND DOES IT WORK?

AND FOR ME TO ASSESS THOSE THINGS I NEED DATA.

- AT THE RAADFEST, THERE WAS A BIG STUDY.

THEY WERE PAYING $600 TO PARTICIPATE.

- THEY WERE NOT BEING PAID TO PARTICIPATE,

THEY WERE PAYING. - THEY WERE PAYING.

- THAT'S INTERESTING.

- MANY COMPANIES SAYING LIKE, "OH, WE SELL DNA KITS,

SEND US YOUR DNA." AND I'M TEMPTED, OF COURSE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL DO WITH THIS.

- HUMANITY FELL INTO AN UNFORTUNATE HABIT IN THE LAST

TEN YEARS WHERE WE, AT LEAST IN AMERICA, STOPPED THINKING

ABOUT OUR DATA AS SOMETHING THAT WE OWNED THAT HAD VALUE

AND THAT WOULD HAVE LONG-LASTING PRIVACY IMPLICATIONS.

NOW, OUR WHOLE MEDICAL SYSTEM IS PREDICATED

ON THE IDEA OF THAT IF I ANONYMIZE THE DATA,

I JUST TAKE YOU NAME OFF IT,

THEN IT'S OKAY TO USE THAT DATA IN OTHER CONTEXTS,

BUT THINGS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY YOUR MOLECULAR FOOTPRINT,

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I TAKE YOUR NAME OFF OF IT.

IT'S STILL YOU FUNDAMENTALLY.

FOR ME, WHEN I ADVISE COMPANIES

ON WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO GET AHEAD OF, DNA PRIVACY,

DATA PRIVACY AND TRUST. THERE'S AN INHERENT TRUST

WHEN I GO TO A HOSPITAL,

THAT THEY ARE NOT ONLY DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR ME,

BUT THEY ARE HANDLING MY INFORMATION IN A WAY

THAT IS VERY RESPECTFUL.

I THINK THE CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA OF HEALTH DATA IS COMING.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO.

BUT I HAVE BEEN ADVISING EVERY COMPANY I CAN

TO MAKE PRIVACY A FEATURE INSTEAD OF A BUG.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU ADD ON AT THE END.

IT'S SOMETHING YOU BUILD IN FROM THE BEGINNING.

NOW, THERE'S A WHOLE NEW INDUSTRY OF COMPANIES

THAT ARE CALLED BIO BROKERS

THAT ARE FLIPPING THAT MODEL AND ARE PUTTING THE PERSON,

YOU, AT THE CENTER OF YOUR DATA MARKETPLACE.

SO IF A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY WANTS TO BUY YOUR DNA DATA

FOR RESEARCH, THEY PAY YOU, NOT THE SEQUENCING COMPANY.

AND IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE PERMISSION

TO DO THAT.

(TENSE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(HORNS HONKING)

(IN ENGLISH): STATE SECURITY STORE MILLIONS

OF DATA SEQUENCES IN TRYING

TO FIND PATTERNS IN BEHAVIOUR, TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMATIC

TOWNS, AREAS, UNIVERSITIES, OR GROUPS OF PEOPLE.

WE NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING THE MINISTER SAID.

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): IN HERE THEY COULD MAKE PICTURES OUT OF A TIE.

OUT OF A BRA, SOMETIMES, OR, IN THE CASE HERE,

THROUGH THE BUTTON OF A COAT

TO FOLLOW PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY WERE GOING.

THE IDEA WAS, IF WE KNOW NEARLY EVERYTHING,

WE CAN PREVENT EVERYTHING FROM HAPPENING.

SO IF WE KNOW THE PLANS OF THE ENEMY,

AND WE KNOW THE PLACES WHERE THEY ARE,

WE HAVE EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL.

(EERIE MUSIC)

PROCEDURES TO CONFUSE PEOPLE WAS CALLED

THE CONCEPT OF ZERSETZUNG.

THAT IS EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL DECOMPOSITION,

TO DECOMPOSE PEOPLE, TO SCARE PEOPLE.

TO PROVOKE THE FEELING OF FEAR.

IN ONE CASE WE KNOW, THE WOMAN FROM ROSTOCK,

SHE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS, AND THE STATE SECURITY

HAD ACCESS TO THE HEALTH DATA,

SO THEY FOUND OUT, THEY SPREAD THE INFORMATION

THAT SHE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS, SO NOW THEY CONNECTED LIES

WITH TRUTH IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE COULD NOT...

SEE THE LIE.

AND THE RESULTS WERE ISOLATED, FRUSTRATED,

DEPRESSED PEOPLE, AND I HAVE TO SAY IT, WE KNOW IT,

THIS WOMAN I TALKED ABOUT AND OTHERS, COMMITTED SUICIDE.

(HAUNTING MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): MR. MIELKE IN THE MINISTRY-LEVEL ROOM,

HE SAID, "WE WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING."

AND I WAS A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED

BECAUSE THIS SENTENCE COULD COME FROM A CEO OF THE DATA COMPANY

KNOWING EVERYTHING, SO HAVING A DIRECTORY WHERE SOMEBODY LINKS

EVERY DATA TO OTHER RELATED DATA. YOU FIND PATTERNS.

AND THEN WITH THESE PATTERNS, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THESE

PATTERNS AND THE PROBLEM IS

THAT COMPANIES STARTING WITH THESE PATTERNS

TO NUDGING YOU, TO POINTING YOU IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION

AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE FORWARDED TO THAT PRODUCT,

TO THAT SERVICE, MAYBE TO THAT...

POLITICIAN. - POLITICAL PARTY. YEAH.

- TO SOMETHING YOU MAY DON'T LIKE,

OR MAY YOU DON'T KNOW BEFORE,

SO YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW

ABOUT THE LINKS THAT WERE BEING MADE.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I TRY TO UNDERSTAND

BETTER RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE,

ELON MUSK, FOR EXAMPLE. - YEAH.

- HE'S PUTTING SO MUCH FEAR INTO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

I OFTEN THINK SOMETIMES TRANSHUMANIST SAY, USE THIS

ARGUMENT OF,"OH, MY GOD,

WE'RE CREATING SOMETHING STRONGER.

IT'S GONNA BE SO MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT AND STRONGER THAN US

THAT WE WILL HAVE TO AUGMENT OURSELVES.

- YUP.

- IT IS SO HYPOCRITE. - MMM.

- COME ON. - YET STILL BEHIND

THIS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS A HUMAN ORGANIZATION,

ARE REAL HUMANS LIKE ELON MUSK OR SERGEY BRIN OR WHOEVER.

THEY'RE STILL BEHIND THIS, THEY STILL CAN SWITCH THINGS OFF

IF THINGS DON'T GO A WAY THEY WANT TO.

SO THEY DON'T TELL YOU TO ADAPT

TO THIS STRONGER GROWING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE,

THEY TELL YOU TO ADAPT TO A WORLD THEY CREATE

IN A WAY THEY WON'T HAVE TO.

I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD NEW FEUDALISM. NOW THEY MAKE

A NEW CLASS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD DECIDE THINGS AND MAKE THINGS

AND DECIDE HOW THINGS ARE RUN. AND THOSE NEW PEOPLE ARE

CAPITALISTS AND SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS WHO THINK,

IN THEIR OWN HUBRIS,

THAT THEY ARE SO GOOD, SO INTELLIGENT THAT

THEY KNOW HOW THE WORLD SHOULD BE RUN

BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ENGINEERS.

THEY HAVE COMPLETELY CLEAR CONCEPT

OF, THINGS SHOULD BE THIS WAY, THIS WAY, THIS WAY.

THEY THINK THEIR OPINION IS RIGHT,

AND WHEN THIS OPINION IS RUNNING THE WORLD,

EVERYBODY IS FREE, AND DON'T SEE WOMEN

AND PEOPLE OF COLOUR, STUFF, YOU KNOW, NAME IT.

AND THEY'RE CONNECTED

WITH THE ALT-RIGHT.

THEY ARE DOING ALL THIS DESTROYING THE STATE STUFF

TO ESTABLISH A LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY,

AND THIS LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY WHO WILL HAVE THE POWER,

NOT EVERYBODY LIKES AN ANARCHY,

BUT THE BIG HUGE COMPANIES WHO HAVE THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

AND CAN MAKE THINGS RUN AND CAN ORGANIZE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I REALLY BELIEVE THEY WANT TO OVERCOME DEMOCRACY

AND WANT TO ESTABLISH A NEW POST-DEMOCRATIC ERA

THAT ISN'T EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE MONARCHY WAS IN THE PAST,

AND IT ALSO ISN'T THE SAME AS DICTATORSHIP.

IT WILL BE SOMETHING NEW.

AND THE, UM...

THE MAIN ROLE IN IT WILL BE COMPANIES

AND THE CEO'S OF THOSE COMPANIES,

AND THE OWNERS OF THOSE COMPANIES

WILL BE THE NEW "KINGS" OF THIS SOCIETY.

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

(ANGELIC MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): THEY CREATED IT.

- THE GOAL THIS EXOSKELETON IS ULTIMATELY TO AUGMENT

HUMAN MOBILITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN HELP AUGMENT THE MOBILITY

OF CARE GIVERS WHO REQUIRE THAT EXTRA, YOU KNOW,

POWER WITH THEIR PATIENTS.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): AND A QUESTION THAT I'M MOST

AFRAID OF ASKING IS,

WHEN WILL THAT BE APPLY-ABLE TO A PERSON LIKE HER?

- YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO, WE CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHEN

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT TOO FAR AWAY.

OKAY... SO, IF YOU LIFT YOUR ARMS.

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

(IN ENGLISH): COME IN.

- NICE TO MEET YOU, I'M DOMINIQUE.

CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IEET?

- YEAH. THE WORLD TRANSHUMANIST ASSOCIATION FIRST GOT STARTED

IN 1998, AND THEN I CAME IN IN 2000 AND INCORPORATED IT.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE VERY DIVERSE POLITICS OF THE ORGANIZATION,

WE BEGAN TO HAVE FIGHTS VERY QUICKLY,

AND EVERY YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE ELECTIONS,

AND THE ELECTIONS WOULD BE HUGE...

YOU KNOW, BE ACCUSING EACH OTHER OF BLOODY MURDER.

AND SO, THOSE OF US ON THE LEFT OF THE ORGANIZATION

INCLUDING NICK BOSTROM, WE DECIDED TO START

THE INSTITUTE FOR ETHICS AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES

AS A GROUP THAT WOULD A, NOT HAVE ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR

SO THAT WE WEREN'T ALWAYS FIGHTING. B, THE PEOPLE WHO

AGREED THERE SHOULD BE GOVERNMENTS AND THAT THEY SHOULD

DO THINGS LIKE HAVE A UNIVERSAL HEALTH INSURANCE

AND ENSURE THAT DRUGS ARE SAFE.

- ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC TOWARD HUMANITY?

DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD KEEP UP LIKE THIS?

- I'VE NEVER BELIEVED, YOU KNOW, ENTIRELY IN THE PESSIMIST

OR IN THE OPTIMIST CAMP. SINCE THE RISE OF FASCISM,

THE RISE OF PUTIN, XI, ORBAN, ERDOGAN,

YOU KNOW ALL THE DIFFERENT FASCISTS

AROUND THE WORLD, AND TRUMP.

UM, I THINK IT'S A LOT MORE

FOR ME THE QUESTION OF WHETHER AUTHORITARIAN CAPITALISM

IS GOING TO START USING TECHNOLOGY,

ESPECIALLY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY

TO LOCKDOWN SOCIETIES IN WAYS

THAT BASICALLY, GEORGE ORWELL, IMAGINED, YOU KNOW,

THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE BOOT COULD NOT BE...

WE COULD NOT BE ABLE TO PUSH THE BOOT OFF OF OUR FACE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST RISK

THAT WE FACE RIGHT NOW.

NOW, I STILL BELIEVE IN THE ARGUMENT

THAT I'VE ALWAYS MADE, WHICH IS,

IF YOU WANT TO STOP FASCISM, STOP FASCISM.

YOU CAN'T STOP FASCISM BY STOPPING ANY PARTICULAR

TECHNOLOGY, ESPECIALLY TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN

INVENTED YET. THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INVENTED YET,

YES, IF FASCISTS COME TO POWER,

THEY WILL USE THOSE TECHNOLOGIES.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT...

IN THINKING ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF EVERYONE

LIVING ON EXTRA 20, 30 YEARS

THAT IT HAS ANY CONNECTION TO THE RISE OF FASCISM.

WHEN JULIAN HUXLEY COINED THE TERM

TRANSHUMANISM BACK IN 1959,

HE WAS MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT WE NEEDED A NEW HUMANIST

PHILOSOPHY THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS ALL OF THESE ISSUES,

ALL THESE TRANSFORMATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO UNDERGO.

AND I THINK A LARGE PART OF THE RISE OF THE FAR RIGHT

HAS BEEN THE FALLING BACK

SINCE COMMUNISM, AND EVEN SOCIAL DEMOCRACY

DID NOT FULFILL SOME OF THE UTOPIAN PROMISES

OF THE 20TH CENTURY.

THEY'RE FALLING BACK ON THESE OLDER,

MORE MEATY, FLESHY FORMS OF UTOPIANISM

ABOUT HOW GREAT WE WERE BEFORE.

AND WHAT WE NEED IS A NEW FUTURE-ORIENTED HUMANISM

THAT CAN OFFER PEOPLE THE VISION

THAT JULIAN HUXLEY IMAGINED.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): NOW IT'S TIME FOR US AS RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS

OF THE PLANET, AS PART OF A SPECIES, OF THE HUMAN SPECIES

TO THINK OF THESE WAYS OF BEING EXISTING IN POST-HUMANIST WAYS.

MOST SOCIETIES IN THIS HISTORICAL MOMENT

ON PLANET EARTH ARE ANTHROPOCENTRIC,

WHICH IS A BIG WORD, BUT IS VERY SIMPLE

WHAT IT MEANS. IT MEANS THAT MOST SOCIETIES

DO SEE THE HUMAN AS THE MOST EVOLVED BEING,

THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.

AT THIS POINT, WE KNOW THAT THE MAIN

DANGER IS US. AND AN IDEA THAT STILL PLACES THE HUMAN

AT THE VERY TOP OF THE HIERARCHY IT'S A TYPE OF IDEOLOGY

THAT IS ONLY GOING NOT TO BENEFIT US IN ANY WAY.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY ENDANGERING US. NOW YOU HAVE

A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THE TRANSHUMANIST MOVEMENT,

BUT THE ROOTS OF THE IDEA

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, ARE A LITTLE WEAK,

BECAUSE THEY ROOT THEMSELVES

IN A SPECIFIC LINEAR TRADITION OF WESTERN THINKING,

IN EUROPEAN THINKING OF ENLIGHTENMENT.

BASED ON YOUR PROGRESS AND BASED OFF THE IDEA

OF REASON, AND THESE IDEAS ARE ENTANGLED

WITH RACISM AND SEXISM AND HUMAN CENTRISM,

AND IDEA OF JUST KEEP WORKING WITH THIS KIND OF FOUNDATION

FOR ME, IS VERY WEAK. BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE HUMAN,

YOU NEED TO THINK IN PLURALISTIC TERMS.

YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE HUMAN AS A PLURAL NOTION.

PHILOSOPHY IS A DEEP WEAPON

THAT CAN REALLY CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDSET.

THAT CAN CHANGE HOW WE MAKE SCIENCE.

THAT CAN CHANGE HOW WE PROGRESS AS A SOCIETY.

HOW WE CONCEIVE TECHNOLOGY. AND THIS, OF COURSE, HAPPENS

IN A LOT OF INTERESTING FIELDS, LIKE ECO-TECHNOLOGY,

SUSTAINABLE RESOURCE ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

(BIRDS TRILLING)

(WHISTLING)

(WATER TRICKLING)

TO ME, I AM... LET'S SAY THAT I DON'T HAVE A MELANCHOLIC

VISION OF THE PLANET. I DON'T THINK THAT LIKE, OH...

"IT'S SO SAD THAT... " IT'S NOT SAD, IT'S WHO WE ARE.

BUT WE NEED TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST

ABOUT WHO WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO ONE SIDE, IT IS OUR CHOICE

IF WE WANT TO BE AROUND AS A SPECIES OR NOT.

IT IS OUR CHOICE IF WE WANT TO BE AT WAR,

AT AN EXISTENTIAL WAR WITH ANYTHING AROUND US OR NOT.

AND THAT I SEE A LOT HAPPENING WITHIN TRANSHUMANIST MOVEMENT.

WHERE ANYTHING, EVEN THE CLIMATE CHANGE,

IS THOUGHT TO BE SOLVED BY TECHNOLOGY

INSTEAD OF BY OUR OWN ACTION.

DON'T TRY TO SOLVE SOMETHING... IF THERE IS A BIG SEQUOIA TREE

THAT HAS THOUSANDS OF YEARS, IF YOU CUT THAT ONE DOWN,

THERE IS NO WAY IT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED

WITH A TECHNOLOGICAL SEQUOIA.

IT'S THOUSANDS OF YEARS, THE TREE... THEY'RE GONE.

THERE IS NO GOING BACK. WE CANNOT ASK AN ALGORITHM

TO SOLVE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CAUSING,

BECAUSE THE GAIN IS A DISPLACEMENT,

IS AN OBTURATION, IS AN IGNORANCE,

SO WHY DO WE WANT TO BE IGNORANT

IF EXISTENCE IS ALL THAT WE HAVE?

WHY DO WE WANT TO BE IGNORANT?

- YEAH, IT'S KIND OF FLEEING FROM FACING WHAT IS THERE.

- YEAH. TOTALLY.

(WATER TRICKLING)

(SERENE MUSIC)

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): HELLO, NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

(IN FRENCH)

(IN ENGLISH): WHAT IS YOUR PROJECT?

(IN FRENCH)

(GENTLE MUSIC)

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