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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 (BIRDSONG) (PIANO PLAYING SOFTLY) 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,600 (PIANO CHORDS CONTINUE) 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,760 (INDISTINCT CAMERA CREW CHATTER) 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,880 I love those kind of sad, sad songs. 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,480 Um... That's the Elton sound. 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,759 (CREW CHATTER) 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,320 ELTON: 'Honesty is so important. 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,640 But when you're an addict, you're lying all the time.' 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,960 It's all full of deceit, it's all full of, you know, 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,800 hiding what you've done. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,480 I never talked about my problems. I was shut tight. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,240 OK? Alright. 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,320 'But David could draw the best out of you 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,640 because he was a human being. 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,200 He was never intimidating. He was a friend. 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,960 I trusted him.' 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,400 I'm just trying to think what bloody key it's in, but it... 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,680 'But I felt it was the right time to discuss my life.' 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,120 It seemed natural just to tell him the truth. 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,760 (APPLAUSE) ANNOUNCER: The fantastic Elton John! 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,840 ANNOUNCER 2: Will you welcome... 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,160 David Frost! (APPLAUSE) 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,200 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,400 Elton and Dad 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,800 both lived so publicly. They were a match for each other. 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,480 It's frightening sometimes when paparazzi crowd around you, 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,680 but I don't really see how it's going to change. 29 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:35,720 In an era when the tabloids were out for blood, 30 00:01:35,759 --> 00:01:38,960 Dad's approach to interviewing was built on trust. 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,160 I've always been afraid. My life was built on fear. 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,360 David had a way of getting you to admit things 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,479 that you probably wouldn't admit to someone else. 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,280 I mean, clinically, I should be dead. 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,320 Really? Emotionally I was. 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,600 He just wanted to get the truth out of you and the real story. 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,320 I wouldn't have done it with anyone else. 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,160 And the only addiction left in your life is shopping. 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Yes, David. 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,560 And I'm gonna take you out right now and buy you a fabulous ballgown. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Hello, good evening and welcome. 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,600 We want to involve both world leaders and world entertainers. 43 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:14,520 And what I've tried to talk with them about 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,560 are things that are not usually asked. 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Every time a Black man's lynched, I'm lynched. 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 We're not just living in ivory towers in Hollywood. 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,800 Am I paranoid? The answer is: 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,840 at times, yes. 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,400 I had portrayed a myth, an image. 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,200 I've never really known how to communicate with people 51 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,240 on a one-to-one basis. 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,520 And now it's my pleasure to be talking with the man 53 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,600 who's been described as the most popular musician, 54 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:54,079 the most popular singer in the world right now, Mr Elton John. 55 00:02:55,079 --> 00:02:56,720 Thank you. 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,320 I look a bit timid in that interview. Um... 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,720 I like the suit. It's a Tommy Nutter suit, and... 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,760 er... God. 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Yes, those were the days. 60 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:09,240 When people say, "Why do you wear flamboyant clothes now? 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,320 And why do you do this and that?" I never really was 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,000 allowed to do it until I was about 21 when I was my own boss anyway. 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,960 I regard myself as a teenager now, even though I'm 28 nearly. 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,920 He was the person to be interviewed by. 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Seriously. I mean, it wasn't like doing a chat show 66 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,200 or something like that, when you went on and... 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,200 David was a proper interviewer, and it was a challenge. 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,600 What age were you when you took your first job? 69 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,079 Well, I left school when I was 17. 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,600 There are a number of reasons 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,079 that would obviously attract David Frost to Elton John. 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,920 Because in the '70s, there is absolutely no question 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,280 that Elton John is the biggest pop star in the world. 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,640 The first five years of my career, 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,560 success came so quickly. I didn't get very big-headed 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,640 because I didn't have time to think about it. 77 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,400 # One, two, three, four... 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,800 # ELTON JOHN: Pinball Wizard # 79 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,000 (CROWD CHEERS) 80 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,080 It seemed like a fairy story. 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,320 I kept pinching myself thinking, "Is this really happening to me?" 82 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,320 # Ever since I was a young boy I played the silver ball 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,839 # From Soho down to Brighton I must've played them all 84 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,200 # But I ain't seen nothin' like him in any amusement hall 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,560 # That deaf, dumb, and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball... 86 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,200 Well, you've got to be mad if you didn't like Elton John. 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,560 What's wrong with you? (LAUGHS) 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,480 # Becomes part of the machine... 89 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,920 He was the most fun, talented, 90 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,920 larger-than-life person that you want to know. 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,280 # He's a pinball wizard, there has to be a twist... # 92 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,120 If you look at the charts, he's having hits all the time. 93 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,960 And he's a really flamboyant showman... 94 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:57,760 ..despite his background being one of complete ordinariness. 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,240 To what extent do you think, Elton, that your childhood 96 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:04,320 formed what you are today? 97 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,400 I think my childhood has a great effect on what I'm doing now, 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,280 in the fact that I was always supressed as a child. 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,680 My father was a very big snob. He was in the Air Force, 100 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,760 and he wouldn't let me kick the ball in the garden 101 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,600 in case I touched the rose bushes, that sort of effort. 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,560 I was always sort of forced to practise the piano for three hours, 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,960 and he was very, very strict. 104 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,280 And this gave me great ambition, I think. 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,080 I knew what I wanted to do. I didn't want to be a classical pianist. 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,240 I wanted to be a pop singer. 107 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:37,480 My mother still has a letter from my father when I was 16. 108 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,480 Says, "Reggie must give up this idea of becoming a pop musician. 109 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,120 He's turning into a wide boy." (CHUCKLES) 110 00:05:43,159 --> 00:05:46,360 (PLAYING "SOMEONE SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT") 111 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,400 (CROWD CHEERS AND APPLAUDS) 112 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,440 What's the most emotional song you've ever done, do you think? 113 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,520 I mean, most meaningful emotional song. 114 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,280 There are two very emotional songs, 115 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,480 both very sort of autobiographical songs. 116 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,920 One's called "Someone Saved My Life Tonight." 117 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,160 # When I think of those east end lights 118 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,000 # Muggy nights, the curtains drawn 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,400 # In the little room downstairs... 120 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,360 And how are they autobiographical? How did someone save your life? 121 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Well, I was living with a lady for about six months who, um... 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,760 ..didn't really like my music. 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,880 I sort of liked her, but she didn't like my music 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,120 and kept telling me I was rubbish and I'd never make it. 125 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,320 She was always saying, "You're better off being a bank manager or something." 126 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,080 # Prima donna, Lord You really should have been there 127 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,440 # Sittin' like a princess Perched in her electric chair... 128 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,400 And I was due to marry her. I got the cake and everything like that, 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,520 and the flat and new furniture. 130 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,159 And I went out down to a nightclub 131 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,880 and met Long John Baldry who I was backing at the time. 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,240 And he said, "You're mad to get married because she, you know... 133 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:55,840 she doesn't, you know... she doesn't appreciate your music." 134 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,680 And he knew I was totally wrapped up in music. 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,600 So I went home and said, "That's it, it's off." 136 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,840 And it more or less saved my life cos otherwise, 137 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,760 if I had gotten married at that particular point in time, 138 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,280 um, I think it would have been Goodbye Elton John. 139 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,120 # Someone saved, someone saved Someone saved my life tonight 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,280 # Someone saved, someone saved Someone saved my life tonight... # 141 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,680 But gosh, I can't see you as a bank manager either. 142 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Well, I look like a bank manager. That's why I always say 143 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,280 when people say, "What do you describe yourself as?" 144 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,280 Sort of like a freaked-out bank manager. 145 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,640 I'm not your actual Mick Jagger 146 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,280 or anybody... or your David Bowie. 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,840 I'm sort of like the boy next door who freaked out all of a sudden. 148 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,880 (CROWD CHEERS AND APPLAUDS) 149 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,440 LULU: The illusion is 150 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,600 that it's all hunky dory. 151 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,800 All happy clappy. 152 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,720 But it's very lonely being successful, 153 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,440 especially when you're a lead singer. 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,840 A lot of people think being a celebrity 155 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,000 will solve all their problems. 156 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Forget about it. 157 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,400 I just get a feeling of people searching for something, 158 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,800 finding it, and then becoming disillusioned. 159 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,880 People are always searching for a god or a figure that they can... 160 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,200 They're looking for the Saviour, the Messiah, 161 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,080 to come down to save us all, 162 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,320 and then he lets them down. 163 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,400 You must have had some of those experiences 164 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,800 in a way, yourself. I mean, in the sense of having 165 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,360 a multitude of people almost worshipping you. I mean... 166 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,600 Oh, yes. When you do a concert tour, you know, you think, 167 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,120 "They must be mad. They like me." 168 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:38,799 For Elton, Dad was the right person to open up to, 169 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,080 that would have some level of understanding 170 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,520 of what he was going through. 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,200 (CROWD CHEERS AND APPLAUDS) 172 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,440 David Frost, he was the king of interviewers. 173 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,560 Welcome.Here we are again. Here we are again. 174 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,920 This is David, old friend of mine. We go back years. 175 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,560 Thank you.Gorgeous! Lovely to see you! 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,200 One felt glamorous when you were around David 177 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,800 because he knew absolutely everybody. 178 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:14,600 Because David was as famous as the people he was interviewing, 179 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,640 you felt you were dealing with someone who... 180 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,680 who understood your life. 181 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,320 If you are well-known yourself, it can help in certain ways. 182 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,200 Where you start with someone knowing you a bit 183 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,680 from the television screen, I think it can help 184 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,080 to short-circuit a conversation and get in deeper quicker. 185 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,000 ELTON: I just found that he was genuinely interested. 186 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,240 He was genuinely empathetic. 187 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,760 And he had a deep intellect of how to get the best out of you. 188 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,560 # ELTON JOHN: Rocket Man # # She packed my bags last night 189 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,600 # Pre-flight 190 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:53,200 # Zero hour, 9:00AM 191 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,720 # And I'm gonna be high 192 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,720 # As a kite by then... 193 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,520 You said once, inanimate objects 194 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:09,520 have given you more happiness than human beings have given you. 195 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:11,640 I still feel like that at the moment. 196 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:14,920 # The Earth so much, I miss my wife... 197 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,240 I've got loads of close friends, fantastic friends, 198 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,080 and yet I've got no one close to me. 199 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,240 # It's lonely out in space... 200 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Would you like to have someone close?Oh, yeah. 201 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,680 But there's no one close to me at all. 202 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,080 # Timeless flight... 203 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,160 I think about it sometimes when I'm in my 36-room house 204 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,120 and I'm sitting there all alone. 205 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,360 And it all seems so futile. 206 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,960 # And I think it's gonna be a long, long time 207 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,720 # 'Til touchdown brings me round again to find... 208 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Elton was struggling with who he was, who he really was. 209 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,200 And the loneliness is something 210 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,040 a lot of people are destroyed by. 211 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,680 # Rocket man... # 212 00:10:59,728 --> 00:11:01,960 # ELTON JOHN: I'm Still Standing # 213 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,440 # You could never know what it's like 214 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,840 # Your blood, like winter, freezes just like ice 215 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 # And there's a cold, lonely light that shines from you 216 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,720 # You'll wind up like the wreck you hide behind that mask you use... 217 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,560 Elton John always came up with something brilliant. 218 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,280 His writing was fabulous. 219 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,400 # Once, I never could've hoped to win... 220 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,640 But he was such a sensitive soul. 221 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,680 He was surprised that he was still going in the '80s. 222 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,600 "I'm here. I'm still here." 223 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,720 # You know, I'm still standin' Better than I ever did 224 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:46,240 # Lookin' like a true survivor Feelin' like a little kid 225 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,560 # I'm still standing 226 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,560 # Yeah, yeah, yeah... (APPLAUSE) 227 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,080 # I'm still standing 228 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,400 # Yeah, yeah, yeah... # 229 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,640 The two biggest megastars of rock will be right here. 230 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:02,280 If a bomb drops on the studio, rock is finished, 231 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,080 because they're both here: Elton John and Rod Stewart. 232 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,120 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 (CHUCKLES) 234 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,280 It was just great fun to be interviewed by him. 235 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,760 I remember doing, I think, a Rod Stewart interview with him. It was hilarious. 236 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,640 Absolute delight having the two of you here. 237 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:24,960 I had to drag him along because I thought 238 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,760 it would be good publicity for him. (LAUGHTER) 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 David, he had a great, naughty sense of humour. 240 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,640 Have you seen the video of I'm Still Standing? 241 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,360 I think it's one of the best singles he's done.Since the war? 242 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,480 Yep. (LAUGHTER) 243 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,440 David was just the greatest company, and we became friends 244 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,640 and we stayed friends. 245 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,800 So, on the surface, 246 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,400 everything appears to be going incredibly well. 247 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,720 Beneath that, Elton was in... 248 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,600 a really bad state. 249 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,160 Elton became seriously addicted. 250 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Cocaine and drink. 251 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,160 Elton was a troubled soul, to be sure. 252 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:11,400 I was doing a lot of drugs, and then I wasn't doing a lot of drugs. 253 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,520 I was drinking a lot, then I wasn't drinking. 254 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,240 It was stop-start, stop-start hedonism. 255 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,200 And of course, when you keep going like that, 256 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,760 it leads to an unhappy place. 257 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,200 The filming of the video for I'm Still Standing 258 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,160 is a good case in point for the surface success, 259 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,120 but the inner turmoil. 260 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,240 # Did you think this fool could never win? 261 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,520 # Well, look at me, I'm a-comin' back again... 262 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:36,600 So all is going well, until Elton drinks 263 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,480 an enormous amount of vodka and does a load of cocaine, 264 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,640 and smashes everything in the hotel room to pieces. 265 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:45,920 (APPLAUSE) 266 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,560 I don't think the public had a clue 267 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 that Elton John was completely off the rails... 268 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Elton John, thank you so much. We'll be right back. 269 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,520 ..until stories first appear in some of the tabloids. 270 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,760 REPORTER: Britain's three most popular tabloid newspapers 271 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,600 attract a combined daily readership of 24 million. 272 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,360 But whether these can really be called newspapers 273 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,960 is increasingly open to question. 274 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,240 Tabloid journalism in the '80s was pretty much at a low, 275 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,960 cos they would buy up a scandal and hype it for sales. 276 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Elton was a top target cos he was a top star. 277 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Circulation is the name of the game. 278 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,920 Elton came out very publicly at a time 279 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,440 when that was a really, really ballsy thing to do. 280 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,560 But then the press start writing 281 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,680 these incredible accusations against him 282 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,440 some of which were absolutely homophobic. 283 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,480 "Bad Elton" sold a lot of papers. 284 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,720 It was cruelty personified. 285 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,320 Cruelty. 286 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,520 The press intrusion was so hellacious, you couldn't write it. 287 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,640 But they did write it! 288 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:03,240 One of the tabloids said that he had cut out his dog's voice box. 289 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,120 The only true part of that story was that Elton had a dog. 290 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,720 They love to shoot you down in this country. 291 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,480 And it is... it's hurtful. It's horrible. 292 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,480 But David never stitched me up on anything. 293 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,200 He wasn't a nasty kind of interviewer. 294 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,800 I think what really stood Dad apart from the tabloid approach 295 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,760 was that he cared a lot about these incredible people 296 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,280 that he was lucky enough to interview, 297 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,960 and so that line of respect was never crossed. 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,920 There are certain occupational hazards 299 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,080 about being in the public eye, 300 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,840 and there are times when people will print 301 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,080 totally false things about you. 302 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,920 And I try, 303 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,360 and I don't think I ever have, ever to respond to them. 304 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,440 What are the areas that you care not to be asked about? 305 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,120 (LAUGHTER) 306 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,760 A very good question. Isn't that a good question? 307 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,240 Can I just make a note of that? (LAUGHTER) 308 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,200 Risking your wrath, can I ask you 309 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,320 a little bit about your private life? 310 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,920 You're not married, for instance. 311 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,240 I mean, that intrigues a lot of people I know. 312 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,320 It intrigues the press more than I can understand, I must say. 313 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,400 I think that I've always decided I would... 314 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,240 get married when I decided I wanted it to be for life. 315 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,040 In the '70s, Dad was actually a little bit lost. 316 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,320 He went from country to country, 317 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,440 and more importantly, relationship to relationship. 318 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,880 But that all changed when he met Mum. 319 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,240 # ELTON JOHN: Amoreena # 320 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,800 REPORTER: David Frost got married this afternoon 321 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,960 to Lady Carina Fitzalan-Howard, the daughter of the Duke of Norfolk. 322 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,920 We were together for six months and then he proposed 323 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,680 and we got married in 19 days. 324 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,880 The timing was just right for both of them, 325 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,000 and it was very much the start of a new chapter. 326 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,240 # Lately I've been thinking 327 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,720 # How much I miss my lady... # 328 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,240 CARINA: We had so much fun. 329 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,160 I'm sure David wasn't easy to live with. 330 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,240 He used to go to the Concorde one day, come back the next day. 331 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,319 That's a hell of a lot to put up with for a wife. 332 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,960 He just thought everyone had that energy. 333 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,240 And, you know, I was always trying to keep up with him. 334 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Carina was a great influence on him, and they became a great couple. 335 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,560 Carina was this pillar of strength. 336 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,800 There, 1000% for David to be able to shine. 337 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,440 REPORTER: The London Palladium, and a royal gala 338 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,600 in aid of the Prince's Trust. 339 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,760 The royal couple are now meeting David Frost, 340 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,640 the gala's executive producer, and Lady Carina Frost. 341 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Ladies and gentlemen, will you welcome... 342 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,760 David Frost! (APPLAUSE) 343 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,400 Walking down the middle of the London Palladium, 344 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,000 one of the biggest stages in London, 345 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,480 to David it would've been absolutely natural because he was a performer. 346 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,120 His Royal Highness, the Prince of Wales. 347 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,880 (APPLAUSE) 348 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,760 I particularly want to say this evening how grateful I am 349 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,640 to David Frost for having suggested the whole thing, 350 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,800 for having masterminded it, 351 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,040 and for having got us here this evening. 352 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,400 (APPLAUSE) 353 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,480 And of course, it helped enormously that 354 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,520 the celebrities were largely his mates. 355 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,360 (PLAYING "CANDLE IN THE WIND") 356 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,440 To get one of the biggest rockstars in the world, 357 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,640 it was an unimaginable coup. 358 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,880 And no, no one else could have done it. 359 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,600 # Goodbye, Norma Jeane... 360 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,760 (APPLAUSE) # Though I never knew you... 361 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,400 I was in the royal box 362 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,080 with the Prince and Princess of Wales, 363 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:13,320 and I remember Elton was extraordinary. 364 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,920 # Seems to me you lived your life 365 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,400 # Like a candle in the wind 366 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,080 # Never knowing who to cling to 367 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:26,600 # When the rain set in... 368 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Elton and the Princess had been very good friends 369 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,240 for quite a few years. 370 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,760 They just clicked. 371 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,320 They both found fame very, very quickly. 372 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,720 And they shared a fight against the tabloids. 373 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,560 I understood the media 374 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,520 might be interested in what I did, 375 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,000 but I was not aware 376 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,680 of how overwhelming that attention would become. 377 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,560 # Loneliness was tough 378 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,000 # The toughest role you ever played 379 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,680 # Hollywood created a superstar 380 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,840 # And pain was the price you paid... 381 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,920 Elton and Diana don't fit into the norm, 382 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,640 and when you don't fit into the norm, you are then persecuted. 383 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,880 # Would've liked to have known you 384 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,800 # Oh, but I was just a kid 385 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,920 # Your candle burned out long before 386 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:32,040 # Your legend ever did # 387 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,440 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 388 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,560 LULU: Elton had such a gift, but fame is hard 389 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,240 and the adulation passes very quickly. 390 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:53,360 You only feel the issues come up when you're on your own. 391 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,200 (CAMERAS CLICKING) 392 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,240 He was a drug addict, he was an alcoholic, 393 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,200 and he took his eye off the ball a bit musically. 394 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,040 # ELTON JOHN: Heartache All Over The World # 395 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320 # Oh, oh... 396 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,120 In the late '80s, he released his worst ever album, 397 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,320 Leather Jackets. 398 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,120 It was obvious care had not been taken, 399 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,160 in either the writing or the recording of this material, 400 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,560 and it was a flop. 401 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,400 (SOMBRE MUSIC) 402 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,480 His life has really spun 403 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240 catastrophically out of control. 404 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,240 He breaks down and he goes into rehab. 405 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,520 I get up in the morning and groan. 406 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,200 That's if I got up at all. 407 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,920 And it got me to the position where I didn't really want to live. 408 00:21:53,405 --> 00:21:55,400 (BIRDSONG) (UNEASY MUSIC) 409 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,320 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 410 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,680 The interview Dad did with Elton in 1991 411 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,680 came after Elton had come out of six weeks of rehab 412 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,320 following 16 years of addiction. 413 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,280 We always had a protocol with David. He didn't want too much chit chat. 414 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,720 So I was often given the role of chit chat. 415 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,560 People believe it and, you know, people buy into it and once again... 416 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,680 'Elton was a little fidgety that morning, a little kind of nervous. 417 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,360 You knew that this was a moment that he had thought about a lot. 418 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,760 The timing was significant. He was so much under scrutiny. 419 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,120 He needed somebody that would give him the time to explain himself.' 420 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,400 The fact he chose David to do this interview 421 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,520 after being in rehab, says everything. 422 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Between '70 and '76, 423 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,480 you were the simplest, healthiest, most clean-living performer 424 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,560 rock had ever known. (CHUCKLES) 425 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,920 It changed, though. (LAUGHTER) 426 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,920 Well, A, of course I trusted him, and B, it was the right time 427 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,240 to discuss my life before getting sober. 428 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,200 He was a friend, 429 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,040 and so I'd talk to him as a friend and I could be open with him. 430 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,040 How did you cope with normal life? When you've got to go into a room 431 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,520 and you're terrified and you're the great Elton John, I mean, 432 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,920 that's when you drink or you take uppers 433 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,680 or you strengthen yourself in that way. 434 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,720 So I didn't drink really that much before I became successful. 435 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,680 But I did when I went to parties. 436 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,640 I went to the opening of a wallet. 437 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,520 I went to everything because I was having fun, 438 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,000 but I always had a drink to make me feel more comfortable, yeah. 439 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,160 Later on, I started taking drugs too. 440 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,880 That broke down all my barriers and I felt that I was part of the gang. 441 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240 I felt I really arrived when I started taking drugs. Yeah! 442 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,320 I take drugs, so I'm finally accepted! I'm one of the in-crowd. 443 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,640 I'm a compulsive, impulsive person. 444 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,360 I can't have one drink and I can't have one drug 445 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,080 and I can't have one, as you've seen, one pair of glasses! 446 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:00,720 Can't have one car. That's my makeup. 447 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,600 And unfortunately, it got more and more out of hand. 448 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,880 And it closed me right back down again 449 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,680 and made me the isolated, unhappy person 450 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,000 that I already was in the first place, really. 451 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,000 I mean, clinically, I should be dead. 452 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,320 Really? Emotionally. Emotionally, I was. 453 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,880 I was like a carcass, David, shipped round 454 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520 from country to country, wheeled out and playing Your Song. 455 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,360 (PLAYS "YOUR SONG" ON PIANO) "Here he is again! 456 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Roll up before he collapses!" You know?(LAUGHTER) 457 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,200 And I saw Elvis Presley a week before he died, 458 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,400 or about... no, a year before he died, not a week. 459 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,720 It could have been a week, and I saw him in Washington, DC. 460 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,520 He was... I looked into his eyes, there was nothing there. 461 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,280 And in the end, there was nothing there with me. 462 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,800 So I decided one day... 463 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,280 ..that maybe, or someone decided for me, 464 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,360 that maybe I couldn't do this on my own. 465 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,120 Maybe I'd come to the end of my tether. 466 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,120 A spiritual change did happen to me. 467 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,840 I think the Ryan White thing happened. 468 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520 I was sitting in a doctor's office in Manhattan 469 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,840 waiting to have an appointment, and I picked up Newsweek. 470 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480 And I read the story of what happened to Ryan White. 471 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,600 And what he had to go through with a people 472 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,560 who were so ignorant about AIDS. 473 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,040 REPORTER: Ryan White contracted AIDS after a routine blood transfusion. 474 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,480 And now his school have said they never want him back in class. 475 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,360 I don't want nobody else to get it. And I can see why they're worried. 476 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,280 But, I mean, if my doctor says it's OK to go back, 477 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,160 well, I don't see no reason why I can't. 478 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,320 Ryan's battle with AIDS and his determination 479 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,560 to get others to understand the illness 480 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,680 brought him to the attention of presidents and pop singers. 481 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,920 I was so enraged, I got in touch with his family 482 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,440 and became friends with them for life. 483 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240 DAVID: You became like a figure of strength 484 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,760 to the Ryan White family and to Ryan White. 485 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,560 Well, if I would be truthful, I would say that was the thing 486 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,000 that really planted the seeds in my mind 487 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440 that something was drastically wrong with me. 488 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,720 I went to Indianapolis to help Jeanie White, his mother, 489 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,640 cope with the funeral, and when he was dying, 490 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080 or cope with when he was dying that week, 491 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,240 and I was just genuinely touched by the compassion. 492 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,840 BUSH: Ryan has helped us understand the truth about AIDS. 493 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,240 And he's shown all of us the strength, 494 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,160 the bravery of the human heart. 495 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,920 He was an astonishing, astonishing boy. 496 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760 And it was through him that they actually did something about AIDS, 497 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,640 the American government, because they introduced the Ryan White Act. 498 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,320 It took a child to have AIDS for them to do anything, 499 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440 when so many people had died of AIDS before him. 500 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,000 I wasn't sober at that time. 501 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,200 And they went through hell. I didn't. 502 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,200 I mean, mine was self-inflicted hell, theirs wasn't. 503 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Theirs was just a horrible accident, and they forgave everybody. 504 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,720 They lit something inside me to say that my life was awful. 505 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040 And I got thinking then, I thought, "Christ." 506 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,640 It was one of the most moving experiences of my life, being there for that week. 507 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,200 It brought me back to reality. "God, I wish I could be like this. 508 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,680 I wish I could be so forgiving and not such a nasty piece of work." 509 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,080 And I knew I wasn't a nasty piece of work, but I just... 510 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,720 It hit home then, and it wasn't long afterwards, in fact, 511 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,480 after that, that I started to get my life together. 512 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520 And you've known me a long time. You've seen me... 513 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,400 You've seen me when I've been happy. 514 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560 You've seen me when I've been troubled. 515 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,320 You've seen me when I've been oblivious 516 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:36,320 and on another planet, probably. 517 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,840 But it's the first time I've had peace of mind. It shows. 518 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,560 It shows... just why... 519 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040 I know. I just feel it. 520 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,880 Everybody feels it. I think you look ten years younger. 521 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440 I sense you're more at peace than I've ever seen you before, too. 522 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160 More at peace? Yeah. 523 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,640 I think that's... and there's no inward battle going on anymore. 524 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,560 This is very early in my sobriety. I've been sober now for 33 years. 525 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,160 But this was... I'm looking at my face and I look so happy 526 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960 and so different to the person I was before. 527 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,280 It wasn't hard for me to get sober. It was joyous. 528 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840 We are all flawed. 529 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840 It's just that I realise what my flaws are now. 530 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080 I can do something about them. 531 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,200 And there are so many millions of people who have the same problems 532 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680 as me, and they don't communicate 533 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,480 because they don't think people want to be there for them. 534 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,000 And if any of you are out there listening, just... 535 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,960 it's OK to ask for help. I didn't think it was, 536 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,200 because I thought it was a sign of weakness. 537 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840 In fact, it's a very spiritual thing to do, 538 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800 to ask another human being to help you. 539 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880 And I'm very glad I did. 540 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,480 And now, as a result, my life has changed so much. 541 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,120 You're just about to do your new album in Paris.Yeah. 542 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480 And maybe you'll find you're so happy 543 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200 that you can't write sad songs anymore. It will be glad songs. 544 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Wouldn't it be strange if I went, feeling like this, 545 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,680 and I get to Paris and I can't write anything? 546 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,360 And you know, that's what life is. I mean, that may happen. 547 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,160 I might go there and write the most mediocre shit I've ever written. 548 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200 I don't sit there analysing my work. 549 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,960 Once one body of work's done, I go on to the next, 550 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,680 and I tend to... I tend to shift everything in the background 551 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,720 and squirm a bit when people mention old stuff. 552 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840 But it's time in my life that I just stood up and said, 553 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880 "Yeah, some of this is good. Some of this is OK." 554 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,360 Well, let's take a stroll over to the armchair, shall we? 555 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160 Can you still walk after that? (BOTH LAUGH) 556 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,160 Start to finish, I think it's... 557 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,680 probably the single best interview Dad ever did. 558 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,760 (INDISTINCT CHATTER, LAUGHTER) 559 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,120 And it marked a turning point for Elton personally. 560 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Asking for help was the hardest thing I ever did, 561 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880 and when I finally did ask for help, 562 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,880 it was like my whole body relaxed and I always say, 563 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,880 the pilot light inside my stomach came back on again. 564 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,720 You're a very optimistic person, particularly now.Yeah. 565 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,480 I'd like to continue on in my life 566 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,400 getting involved, doing more philanthropic things. 567 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,080 REPORTER: Over 152,000 Americans have already died from AIDS. 568 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,720 The ever-growing list of individual human tragedies. 569 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440 When he gets sober, the full weight 570 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,680 of what has happened to the gay community comes crashing in on him. 571 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880 The number of people that he's lost, 572 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240 fellow stars, people he knew. 573 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520 And he's consumed with guilt. 574 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,480 We're dying. 575 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,760 People are dying. 576 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,960 For Christ's sake, help us. Do something. Don't just ignore us. 577 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,480 And I understand that. I didn't at first. 578 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,840 Another instance of me being completely detached 579 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,000 from what was going on in life. 580 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,480 It's affected me deeply. I won't rest until... (SIGHS) 581 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240 hopefully that there's a cure found. 582 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Elton was changed forever by the AIDS epidemic. 583 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400 He formed the Elton John AIDS Foundation, 584 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,680 saving at least hundreds of thousands 585 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 and possibly millions of lives. 586 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,800 Every single that I release in America from this point, 587 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,480 all my proceeds will go to AIDS research and AIDS charities. 588 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440 ("DON'T LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON ME" PLAYING) 589 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 590 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,560 The thing I get most out of my life is 591 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,680 when I'm actually being a loving person, 592 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,240 I get more back than when I'm being a negative bastard. 593 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,760 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Elton John! (CROWD SCREAMS) 594 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,720 # Don't let the sun 595 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,640 # Go down on me 596 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160 # Although I search myself 597 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,120 # It's always someone else I see, yeah 598 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840 # But losin' everything 599 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,640 BOTH: # Is like the sun going down on me # 600 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,480 I'm very happy to be presenting this award to our next guest. 601 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Ladies and gentlemen, the incomparable Elton John. 602 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,320 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 603 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,720 Elton's career in the '90s was astoundingly successful. 604 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,240 After rehab, he then went into writing for movies, for God's sake. 605 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,280 The Lion King. You know, he had maybe even more success. 606 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,960 It's very nice to get this award at this time in one's life, 607 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,880 going through the male menopause. (LAUGHTER) 608 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,760 There's a lot more life in the old girl yet. 609 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,320 Alright? (CHEERING) 610 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,680 Where Dad and Elton, I think, shared a big similarity 611 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,640 was being obsessed by their career. 612 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,320 He had Breakfast with Frost, 613 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680 a centrepiece of British political life. 614 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Hello, good morning and welcome 615 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400 to the first edition of Breakfast with Frost. 616 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120 The Breakfast with Frost years were 617 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,880 some of the best years of Dad's career. 618 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800 It was just such an incredible show 619 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,280 that had some of the most amazing people on that sofa. 620 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840 It would have his warmth, his stamp on it, 621 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,680 and he'd draw in the viewer 622 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,880 and take them through the biggest stories in the world. 623 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,920 (SIREN WAILING DISTANTLY) 624 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,120 Steven, I have to interrupt there, 625 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,880 because within the last few moments, 626 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,240 the Press Association in Britain, 627 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640 citing unnamed British sources, 628 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,520 has reported that Diana, Princess of Wales, has died. 629 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,280 It would have been hard to imagine her 630 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,400 coming out of the kind of damaged car 631 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,960 and the kind of devastation we are seeing to the car in the tunnel. 632 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,320 Surgeons tried for two hours to save her life, 633 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,240 but she died at 3:00 British time. 634 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,120 CARINA: The Princess became a very good friend of mine. 635 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,800 So I was absolutely shell-shocked. 636 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,480 It came as such a surprise. 637 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,719 Princess Diana was my godmother. 638 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,040 It was just a monumental moment. 639 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,120 And... 640 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,280 you could just see what it meant to Mum and Dad. 641 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,560 She was just so charismatic. 642 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,560 She would just lift you up with her. 643 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,120 And everyone was... Listen, come on. The whole world was devastated. 644 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,480 REPORTER: Hundreds of thousands of people have spent the night 645 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,960 camped out at Westminster Abbey, the setting for her funeral. 646 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Like a dream it was, really, the whole thing. 647 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,679 The funeral at the abbey and everything like that, 648 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,720 was surreal for me. 649 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,800 I mean, it was just an incredible thing. 650 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,080 REPORTER: Elton John, who has rewritten his famous song 651 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,800 Candle in the Wind, that was written for Marilyn Monroe, 652 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,840 for today. 653 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,880 We were sitting right opposite Elton. 654 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,840 He was just sublime. 655 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840 I don't think anyone could have done it like Elton did. 656 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,360 There's only been one story in the news this past week, 657 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,320 and only one thought in most people's hearts. 658 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,360 This morning, we'll be talking to Elton John. 659 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,680 I don't think it's possible to have attended Diana's funeral 660 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,520 and to do such deep interviews about it 661 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920 the very next morning, 662 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200 and not be feeling deeply emotional. 663 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,400 Elton, everybody had that same reaction to the song 664 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,240 of being so moved and so on. 665 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,680 It was... It was more emotional when I finished, actually. 666 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,040 It was just such a huge relief to have actually sang it 667 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,040 and not got the words wrong or... 668 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160 GEORGE: Dad and Elton were both so close to Diana 669 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,520 and they were bonded with that mutual grief. 670 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,760 DAVID: ..for 23 years, and the nightmare was that... 671 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,480 That was clearly apparent for anyone watching that interview. 672 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,360 You said this week, 673 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,320 "She will have no idea how much people loved her. 674 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,960 It's a shame she could not have known that in her lifetime." 675 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,160 I think she knew there was a lot of love because when she met people, 676 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,360 she gave out a lot of love and she got a lot of love back. 677 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,280 But it's impossible for anybody to comprehend 678 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,160 the outpouring that has happened. 679 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,000 The thing that's been the most impressive throughout the whole week 680 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,240 is the way the British people have conducted themselves. 681 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,760 Some journalists have said it's wrong to cry in public, 682 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640 but those journalists, you know, 683 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000 I just have no time for them whatsoever. 684 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,960 The British public have behaved so beautifully. 685 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,000 She won't be here anymore, but she'll be in our hearts, 686 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,680 and it's up to everybody now 687 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,400 not just to grieve publicly for a week 688 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,080 and then to forget about it, but, you know, 689 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,280 to try and carry on what she was all about, really. 690 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,640 Dad and Elton had the discussion 691 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,800 that the nation wanted, 692 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200 and they kept it together, both of them. 693 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,720 What are the memories or the greatest memories 694 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,520 that you will take with you of your friend? 695 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,240 Um... 696 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,760 Well, her sense of humour. 697 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,960 And her wicked laugh. 698 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,240 And her teasing and her flirting. 699 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,160 Her compassion and her sincerity. 700 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,080 She was the most tinkling laughter friend. 701 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,680 She ran down corridors, giggling. 702 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:17,520 She was just like the wind. 703 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,800 And she came and she went, and Elton summed it up. 704 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,880 One of her other favourite songs was Your Song, wasn't it? 705 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,480 That line has a poignant quality today. 706 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,120 "How wonderful life is when you're in the world."Yeah. 707 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,080 Which would summarise your feelings about her, really. 708 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,920 Yeah, and "Yours are the sweetest eyes." 709 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,560 That was, I think, her most brilliant physical attribute 710 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,520 were those eyes. 711 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,720 They flirted with you, they were sorrowful. 712 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600 They were laughing. She had those beautiful eyes. 713 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,640 # ELTON JOHN: Your Song # 714 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,920 # It's a little bit funny 715 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,480 # This feeling inside 716 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,720 # I'm not one of those who can... 717 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,720 The performance at Diana's funeral cements Elton 718 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,280 as a national treasure. 719 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,960 This incredible singer songwriter who has written these enduring songs 720 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080 that are just part of the fabric of life. 721 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,120 As he gets older, there is a different kind of honesty 722 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,040 that comes into play. 723 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,080 Your friends all say that they think this has been probably the happiest 724 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,240 decade of your life so far. Are they right? 725 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,920 I would probably say so, yes. As you get older, 726 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,640 you have less time for the frivolous things. 727 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,280 I'd rather stay home, go to your house for a nice dinner 728 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,000 or whatever, and see people that you really find rewarding. 729 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,040 He was an absolute true, true friend. 730 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,240 And his family became friends. 731 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,840 That was the thing about David, with all the fame and renown 732 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640 and everything, he was very happily married and he loved his sons. 733 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680 (STIRRING MUSIC) 734 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,360 As a father, Dad was incredible. 735 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160 He would always see the funny side in things 736 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120 and would never take life too seriously. 737 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,480 Dad worked incredibly hard, 738 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,560 but he always had time for us. 739 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,920 I remember when I became 50, someone says, "Now, you do realise 740 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,720 that the majority of your life 741 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,600 is now behind you rather than in front of you," 742 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,480 which is quite an interesting way of saying, "Don't waste time." 743 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,600 No, life is too short. There are more priorities in my life now. 744 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,920 CARINA: Elton, with all his fame and stardom, 745 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,960 he was very lonely. 746 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,680 And when he found David Furnish, 747 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,720 it was the perfect match for him. 748 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,280 They're devoted to each other. 749 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,320 (DISTANT CHEERING) 750 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,000 REPORTER: In Windsor, the crowds were definitely here for a wedding. 751 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,240 Sir Elton and David Furnish among the first in England 752 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,760 to tie the knot in a civil partnership. 753 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,800 Some had been here since six in the morning. 754 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,640 Many had a view about which Elton song fitted the day best. 755 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,760 # Rocket man! # 756 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,400 (LAUGHING) I can't sing for toffee. 757 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,640 # How wonderful life is 758 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,720 # While you're in the world # 759 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,760 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 760 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,800 # ELTON JOHN: Your Song # 761 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,640 There is no question that the marriage of Elton to David Furnish 762 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,840 has been the high point of his life. 763 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,480 He's always telling people 764 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,920 how much he loves David 765 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,400 with the same ferocity as he tells them 766 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600 about how he beat his addictions. 767 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600 # You can tell everybody 768 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,040 # This is your song... 769 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,360 'I had to learn how to live again. 770 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520 And after 33 years of sobriety, 771 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,120 I have a husband, two wonderful boys, 772 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,640 and I couldn't be happier.' 773 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,720 # I hope you don't mind, I hope you don't mind 774 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,320 # That I put down in words 775 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,360 # How wonderful life is 776 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,840 # While you're in the world # 777 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,920 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) Thank you, Las Vegas. 778 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,600 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky 64426

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