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(BIRDSONG)
(PIANO PLAYING SOFTLY)
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(PIANO CHORDS CONTINUE)
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(INDISTINCT CAMERA CREW CHATTER)
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I love those kind of sad, sad songs.
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Um...
That's the Elton sound.
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Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah.
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(CREW CHATTER)
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ELTON: 'Honesty is so important.
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But when you're an addict,
you're lying all the time.'
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It's all full of deceit,
it's all full of, you know,
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hiding what you've done.
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I never talked about my problems.
I was shut tight.
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OK? Alright.
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'But David could draw
the best out of you
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because he was a human being.
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He was never intimidating.
He was a friend.
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I trusted him.'
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I'm just trying to think
what bloody key it's in, but it...
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'But I felt it was the right time
to discuss my life.'
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It seemed natural just
to tell him the truth.
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(APPLAUSE)
ANNOUNCER: The fantastic Elton John!
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ANNOUNCER 2: Will you welcome...
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David Frost!
(APPLAUSE)
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)
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Elton and Dad
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both lived so publicly.
They were a match for each other.
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It's frightening sometimes
when paparazzi crowd around you,
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but I don't really see
how it's going to change.
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In an era when the tabloids
were out for blood,
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Dad's approach to interviewing
was built on trust.
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I've always been afraid.
My life was built on fear.
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David had a way of getting you
to admit things
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that you probably wouldn't
admit to someone else.
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I mean, clinically,
I should be dead.
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Really?
Emotionally I was.
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He just wanted to get the truth
out of you and the real story.
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I wouldn't have done it
with anyone else.
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And the only addiction
left in your life is shopping.
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Yes, David.
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And I'm gonna take you out right now
and buy you a fabulous ballgown.
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Hello, good evening and welcome.
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We want to involve both world
leaders and world entertainers.
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And what I've tried
to talk with them about
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are things that are
not usually asked.
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Every time a Black man's lynched,
I'm lynched.
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We're not just living
in ivory towers in Hollywood.
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Am I paranoid? The answer is:
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at times, yes.
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I had portrayed a myth, an image.
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I've never really known
how to communicate with people
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on a one-to-one basis.
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And now it's my pleasure
to be talking with the man
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who's been described
as the most popular musician,
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the most popular singer in the world
right now, Mr Elton John.
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Thank you.
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I look a bit timid
in that interview. Um...
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I like the suit.
It's a Tommy Nutter suit, and...
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er... God.
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Yes, those were the days.
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When people say, "Why do you
wear flamboyant clothes now?
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And why do you do this and that?"
I never really was
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allowed to do it until I was about
21 when I was my own boss anyway.
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I regard myself as a teenager now,
even though I'm 28 nearly.
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He was the person
to be interviewed by.
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Seriously. I mean,
it wasn't like doing a chat show
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or something like that,
when you went on and...
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David was a proper interviewer,
and it was a challenge.
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What age were you
when you took your first job?
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Well, I left school when I was 17.
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There are a number of reasons
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that would obviously attract
David Frost to Elton John.
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Because in the '70s,
there is absolutely no question
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that Elton John is the biggest
pop star in the world.
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The first five years of my career,
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success came so quickly.
I didn't get very big-headed
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because I didn't have time
to think about it.
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# One, two, three, four...
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# ELTON JOHN: Pinball Wizard #
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(CROWD CHEERS)
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It seemed like a fairy story.
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I kept pinching myself thinking,
"Is this really happening to me?"
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# Ever since I was a young boy
I played the silver ball
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# From Soho down to Brighton
I must've played them all
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# But I ain't seen nothin' like him
in any amusement hall
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# That deaf, dumb, and blind kid
sure plays a mean pinball...
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Well, you've got to be mad
if you didn't like Elton John.
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What's wrong with you? (LAUGHS)
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# Becomes part of the machine...
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He was the most fun, talented,
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larger-than-life person
that you want to know.
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# He's a pinball wizard,
there has to be a twist... #
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If you look at the charts,
he's having hits all the time.
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And he's a really
flamboyant showman...
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..despite his background being
one of complete ordinariness.
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To what extent do you think,
Elton, that your childhood
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formed what you are today?
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I think my childhood has a great
effect on what I'm doing now,
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in the fact that I was
always supressed as a child.
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My father was a very big snob.
He was in the Air Force,
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and he wouldn't let me
kick the ball in the garden
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in case I touched the rose bushes,
that sort of effort.
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I was always sort of forced to
practise the piano for three hours,
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and he was very, very strict.
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And this gave me great ambition,
I think.
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I knew what I wanted to do. I didn't
want to be a classical pianist.
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I wanted to be a pop singer.
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My mother still has a letter
from my father when I was 16.
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Says, "Reggie must give up this idea
of becoming a pop musician.
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He's turning into a wide boy."
(CHUCKLES)
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(PLAYING
"SOMEONE SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT")
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(CROWD CHEERS AND APPLAUDS)
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What's the most emotional song
you've ever done, do you think?
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I mean, most meaningful
emotional song.
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There are two very emotional songs,
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both very sort of
autobiographical songs.
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One's called
"Someone Saved My Life Tonight."
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# When I think of
those east end lights
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# Muggy nights, the curtains drawn
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# In the little room downstairs...
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And how are they autobiographical?
How did someone save your life?
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Well, I was living with a lady
for about six months who, um...
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..didn't really like my music.
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I sort of liked her,
but she didn't like my music
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and kept telling me I was rubbish
and I'd never make it.
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She was always saying,
"You're better off being
a bank manager or something."
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# Prima donna, Lord
You really should have been there
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# Sittin' like a princess
Perched in her electric chair...
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And I was due to marry her. I got
the cake and everything like that,
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and the flat and new furniture.
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And I went out down to a nightclub
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and met Long John Baldry
who I was backing at the time.
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And he said, "You're mad to get
married because she, you know...
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she doesn't, you know...
she doesn't appreciate your music."
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And he knew I was totally
wrapped up in music.
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So I went home and said,
"That's it, it's off."
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And it more or less saved my life
cos otherwise,
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if I had gotten married
at that particular point in time,
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um, I think it would have been
Goodbye Elton John.
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# Someone saved, someone saved
Someone saved my life tonight
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# Someone saved, someone saved
Someone saved my life tonight... #
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But gosh, I can't see you
as a bank manager either.
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Well, I look like a bank manager.
That's why I always say
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when people say,
"What do you describe yourself as?"
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Sort of like
a freaked-out bank manager.
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I'm not your actual Mick Jagger
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or anybody... or your David Bowie.
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I'm sort of like the boy next door
who freaked out all of a sudden.
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(CROWD CHEERS AND APPLAUDS)
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LULU: The illusion is
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that it's all hunky dory.
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All happy clappy.
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But it's very lonely
being successful,
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especially when
you're a lead singer.
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A lot of people think
being a celebrity
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will solve all their problems.
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Forget about it.
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I just get a feeling of people
searching for something,
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finding it, and then
becoming disillusioned.
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People are always searching for
a god or a figure that they can...
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They're looking for the Saviour,
the Messiah,
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to come down to save us all,
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and then he lets them down.
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You must have had some
of those experiences
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in a way, yourself.
I mean, in the sense of having
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a multitude of people almost
worshipping you. I mean...
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Oh, yes. When you do a concert tour,
you know, you think,
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"They must be mad. They like me."
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For Elton, Dad was
the right person to open up to,
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that would have some
level of understanding
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of what he was going through.
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(CROWD CHEERS AND APPLAUDS)
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David Frost, he was
the king of interviewers.
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Welcome.Here we are again.
Here we are again.
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This is David, old friend of mine.
We go back years.
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Thank you.Gorgeous!
Lovely to see you!
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One felt glamorous
when you were around David
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because he knew
absolutely everybody.
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Because David was as famous
as the people he was interviewing,
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you felt you were dealing
with someone who...
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who understood your life.
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If you are well-known yourself,
it can help in certain ways.
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Where you start with
someone knowing you a bit
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from the television screen,
I think it can help
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to short-circuit a conversation
and get in deeper quicker.
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ELTON: I just found that
he was genuinely interested.
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He was genuinely empathetic.
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And he had a deep intellect of
how to get the best out of you.
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# ELTON JOHN: Rocket Man #
# She packed my bags last night
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# Pre-flight
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# Zero hour, 9:00AM
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# And I'm gonna be high
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# As a kite by then...
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You said once, inanimate objects
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have given you more happiness
than human beings have given you.
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I still feel like that
at the moment.
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# The Earth so much,
I miss my wife...
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I've got loads of close friends,
fantastic friends,
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and yet I've got no one close to me.
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# It's lonely out in space...
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Would you like to have
someone close?Oh, yeah.
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But there's no one
close to me at all.
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# Timeless flight...
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I think about it sometimes
when I'm in my 36-room house
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and I'm sitting there all alone.
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And it all seems so futile.
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# And I think it's gonna be
a long, long time
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# 'Til touchdown brings me
round again to find...
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Elton was struggling with
who he was, who he really was.
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And the loneliness is something
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a lot of people are destroyed by.
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# Rocket man... #
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# ELTON JOHN: I'm Still Standing #
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# You could never know
what it's like
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# Your blood, like winter,
freezes just like ice
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# And there's a cold, lonely light
that shines from you
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# You'll wind up like the wreck
you hide behind that mask you use...
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Elton John always came up
with something brilliant.
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His writing was fabulous.
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# Once, I never
could've hoped to win...
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But he was such a sensitive soul.
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He was surprised that
he was still going in the '80s.
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"I'm here. I'm still here."
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# You know, I'm still standin'
Better than I ever did
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# Lookin' like a true survivor
Feelin' like a little kid
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# I'm still standing
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# Yeah, yeah, yeah...
(APPLAUSE)
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# I'm still standing
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# Yeah, yeah, yeah... #
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The two biggest megastars of rock
will be right here.
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If a bomb drops on the studio,
rock is finished,
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because they're both here:
Elton John and Rod Stewart.
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(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
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(CHUCKLES)
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It was just great fun
to be interviewed by him.
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I remember doing, I think,
a Rod Stewart interview with him.
It was hilarious.
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Absolute delight having
the two of you here.
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I had to drag him along
because I thought
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it would be good publicity for him.
(LAUGHTER)
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David, he had a great,
naughty sense of humour.
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Have you seen the video
of I'm Still Standing?
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I think it's one of the best
singles he's done.Since the war?
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Yep.
(LAUGHTER)
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David was just the greatest company,
and we became friends
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and we stayed friends.
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So, on the surface,
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everything appears
to be going incredibly well.
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Beneath that, Elton was in...
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a really bad state.
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Elton became seriously addicted.
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Cocaine and drink.
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Elton was a troubled soul,
to be sure.
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I was doing a lot of drugs, and
then I wasn't doing a lot of drugs.
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I was drinking a lot,
then I wasn't drinking.
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It was stop-start,
stop-start hedonism.
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And of course,
when you keep going like that,
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it leads to an unhappy place.
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The filming of the video
for I'm Still Standing
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is a good case in point
for the surface success,
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but the inner turmoil.
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# Did you think this fool
could never win?
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# Well, look at me,
I'm a-comin' back again...
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So all is going well,
until Elton drinks
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an enormous amount of vodka
and does a load of cocaine,
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and smashes everything
in the hotel room to pieces.
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(APPLAUSE)
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I don't think the public had a clue
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that Elton John was
completely off the rails...
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Elton John, thank you so much.
We'll be right back.
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..until stories first appear
in some of the tabloids.
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REPORTER: Britain's three
most popular tabloid newspapers
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attract a combined daily
readership of 24 million.
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But whether these can really
be called newspapers
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is increasingly open to question.
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Tabloid journalism in the '80s
was pretty much at a low,
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cos they would buy up a scandal
and hype it for sales.
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Elton was a top target
cos he was a top star.
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Circulation is the name of the game.
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Elton came out very publicly
at a time
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when that was a really,
really ballsy thing to do.
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But then the press start writing
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these incredible accusations
against him
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some of which were
absolutely homophobic.
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"Bad Elton" sold a lot of papers.
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It was cruelty personified.
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Cruelty.
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The press intrusion was so
hellacious, you couldn't write it.
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But they did write it!
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One of the tabloids said that he had
cut out his dog's voice box.
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The only true part of that story
was that Elton had a dog.
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They love to shoot you down
in this country.
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And it is... it's hurtful.
It's horrible.
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But David never stitched me up
on anything.
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He wasn't a nasty
kind of interviewer.
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I think what really stood Dad apart
from the tabloid approach
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was that he cared a lot
about these incredible people
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that he was lucky enough
to interview,
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and so that line of respect
was never crossed.
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There are certain
occupational hazards
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about being in the public eye,
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and there are times
when people will print
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totally false things about you.
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And I try,
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and I don't think I ever have,
ever to respond to them.
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What are the areas that you
care not to be asked about?
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(LAUGHTER)
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A very good question.
Isn't that a good question?
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Can I just make a note of that?
(LAUGHTER)
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Risking your wrath, can I ask you
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a little bit about
your private life?
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You're not married, for instance.
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I mean, that intrigues
a lot of people I know.
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It intrigues the press more
than I can understand, I must say.
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I think that I've always
decided I would...
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get married when I decided
I wanted it to be for life.
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In the '70s, Dad was actually
a little bit lost.
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He went from country to country,
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and more importantly,
relationship to relationship.
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But that all changed
when he met Mum.
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# ELTON JOHN: Amoreena #
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REPORTER: David Frost
got married this afternoon
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to Lady Carina Fitzalan-Howard,
the daughter of the Duke of Norfolk.
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We were together for six months
and then he proposed
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and we got married in 19 days.
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The timing was just right
for both of them,
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and it was very much
the start of a new chapter.
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# Lately I've been thinking
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# How much I miss my lady... #
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CARINA: We had so much fun.
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I'm sure David wasn't
easy to live with.
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He used to go to the Concorde
one day, come back the next day.
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That's a hell of a lot
to put up with for a wife.
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He just thought everyone
had that energy.
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And, you know, I was always
trying to keep up with him.
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Carina was a great influence on him,
and they became a great couple.
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Carina was this pillar of strength.
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There, 1000% for David
to be able to shine.
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REPORTER: The London Palladium,
and a royal gala
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in aid of the Prince's Trust.
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The royal couple are now
meeting David Frost,
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the gala's executive producer,
and Lady Carina Frost.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
will you welcome...
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David Frost!
(APPLAUSE)
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Walking down the middle
of the London Palladium,
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one of the biggest stages in London,
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to David it would've been absolutely
natural because he was a performer.
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His Royal Highness,
the Prince of Wales.
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(APPLAUSE)
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I particularly want to say
this evening how grateful I am
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to David Frost for having
suggested the whole thing,
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for having masterminded it,
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and for having got us
here this evening.
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(APPLAUSE)
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And of course,
it helped enormously that
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the celebrities were
largely his mates.
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(PLAYING "CANDLE IN THE WIND")
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To get one of the biggest
rockstars in the world,
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it was an unimaginable coup.
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And no, no one else
could have done it.
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# Goodbye, Norma Jeane...
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(APPLAUSE)
# Though I never knew you...
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I was in the royal box
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with the Prince
and Princess of Wales,
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and I remember Elton
was extraordinary.
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# Seems to me you lived your life
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# Like a candle in the wind
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# Never knowing who to cling to
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# When the rain set in...
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Elton and the Princess had
been very good friends
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for quite a few years.
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They just clicked.
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They both found fame
very, very quickly.
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And they shared a fight
against the tabloids.
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I understood the media
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might be interested in what I did,
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but I was not aware
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of how overwhelming
that attention would become.
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# Loneliness was tough
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# The toughest role you ever played
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# Hollywood created a superstar
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# And pain was the price you paid...
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Elton and Diana don't
fit into the norm,
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and when you don't fit into
the norm, you are then persecuted.
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# Would've liked to have known you
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# Oh, but I was just a kid
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# Your candle burned out long before
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# Your legend ever did #
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(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
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LULU: Elton had such a gift,
but fame is hard
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and the adulation
passes very quickly.
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You only feel the issues come up
when you're on your own.
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(CAMERAS CLICKING)
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He was a drug addict,
he was an alcoholic,
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and he took his eye off the ball
a bit musically.
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# ELTON JOHN:
Heartache All Over The World #
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# Oh, oh...
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In the late '80s,
he released his worst ever album,
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Leather Jackets.
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It was obvious
care had not been taken,
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in either the writing
or the recording of this material,
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and it was a flop.
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(SOMBRE MUSIC)
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His life has really spun
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catastrophically out of control.
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He breaks down
and he goes into rehab.
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I get up in the morning and groan.
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That's if I got up at all.
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And it got me to the position
where I didn't really want to live.
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(BIRDSONG)
(UNEASY MUSIC)
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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The interview Dad did
with Elton in 1991
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came after Elton had come out
of six weeks of rehab
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following 16 years of addiction.
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We always had a protocol with David.
He didn't want too much chit chat.
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So I was often given the role
of chit chat.
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People believe it and, you know,
people buy into it and once again...
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'Elton was a little fidgety that
morning, a little kind of nervous.
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You knew that this was a moment
that he had thought about a lot.
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The timing was significant.
He was so much under scrutiny.
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He needed somebody that would give
him the time to explain himself.'
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The fact he chose David
to do this interview
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after being in rehab,
says everything.
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Between '70 and '76,
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you were the simplest, healthiest,
most clean-living performer
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rock had ever known.
(CHUCKLES)
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It changed, though.
(LAUGHTER)
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Well, A, of course I trusted him,
and B, it was the right time
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to discuss my life
before getting sober.
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He was a friend,
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and so I'd talk to him as a friend
and I could be open with him.
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How did you cope with normal life?
When you've got to go into a room
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and you're terrified and you're
the great Elton John, I mean,
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that's when you drink
or you take uppers
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or you strengthen yourself
in that way.
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So I didn't drink really that much
before I became successful.
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But I did when I went to parties.
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I went to the opening of a wallet.
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I went to everything
because I was having fun,
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but I always had a drink to make me
feel more comfortable, yeah.
439
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,160
Later on,
I started taking drugs too.
440
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,880
That broke down all my barriers and
I felt that I was part of the gang.
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00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240
I felt I really arrived
when I started taking drugs. Yeah!
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I take drugs, so I'm finally
accepted! I'm one of the in-crowd.
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I'm a compulsive, impulsive person.
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I can't have one drink
and I can't have one drug
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and I can't have one,
as you've seen, one pair of glasses!
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Can't have one car.
That's my makeup.
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And unfortunately, it got
more and more out of hand.
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And it closed me
right back down again
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and made me the isolated,
unhappy person
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that I already was
in the first place, really.
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I mean, clinically,
I should be dead.
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Really?
Emotionally. Emotionally, I was.
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I was like a carcass,
David, shipped round
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from country to country,
wheeled out and playing Your Song.
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(PLAYS "YOUR SONG" ON PIANO)
"Here he is again!
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Roll up before he collapses!"
You know?(LAUGHTER)
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And I saw Elvis Presley
a week before he died,
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or about... no, a year
before he died, not a week.
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It could have been a week,
and I saw him in Washington, DC.
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He was... I looked into his eyes,
there was nothing there.
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And in the end,
there was nothing there with me.
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So I decided one day...
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..that maybe,
or someone decided for me,
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that maybe I couldn't
do this on my own.
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Maybe I'd come
to the end of my tether.
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A spiritual change did happen to me.
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I think the Ryan White
thing happened.
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00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520
I was sitting in
a doctor's office in Manhattan
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waiting to have an appointment,
and I picked up Newsweek.
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And I read the story of
what happened to Ryan White.
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And what he had to go through
with a people
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who were so ignorant about AIDS.
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REPORTER: Ryan White contracted AIDS
after a routine blood transfusion.
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And now his school have said
they never want him back in class.
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I don't want nobody else to get it.
And I can see why they're worried.
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00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,280
But, I mean, if my doctor says
it's OK to go back,
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00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,160
well, I don't see no reason
why I can't.
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Ryan's battle with AIDS
and his determination
479
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,560
to get others
to understand the illness
480
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,680
brought him to the attention
of presidents and pop singers.
481
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,920
I was so enraged,
I got in touch with his family
482
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,440
and became friends
with them for life.
483
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240
DAVID: You became like
a figure of strength
484
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,760
to the Ryan White family
and to Ryan White.
485
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Well, if I would be truthful,
I would say that was the thing
486
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,000
that really planted
the seeds in my mind
487
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440
that something was
drastically wrong with me.
488
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,720
I went to Indianapolis to help
Jeanie White, his mother,
489
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,640
cope with the funeral,
and when he was dying,
490
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080
or cope with when
he was dying that week,
491
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,240
and I was just genuinely
touched by the compassion.
492
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,840
BUSH: Ryan has helped us
understand the truth about AIDS.
493
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,240
And he's shown all of us
the strength,
494
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,160
the bravery of the human heart.
495
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,920
He was an astonishing,
astonishing boy.
496
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760
And it was through him that they
actually did something about AIDS,
497
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,640
the American government, because
they introduced the Ryan White Act.
498
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,320
It took a child to have AIDS
for them to do anything,
499
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440
when so many people had died
of AIDS before him.
500
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,000
I wasn't sober at that time.
501
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,200
And they went through hell.
I didn't.
502
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,200
I mean, mine was self-inflicted
hell, theirs wasn't.
503
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,280
Theirs was just a horrible accident,
and they forgave everybody.
504
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,720
They lit something inside me
to say that my life was awful.
505
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040
And I got thinking then,
I thought, "Christ."
506
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,640
It was one of the most
moving experiences of my life,
being there for that week.
507
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,200
It brought me back to reality.
"God, I wish I could be like this.
508
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,680
I wish I could be so forgiving
and not such a nasty piece of work."
509
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,080
And I knew I wasn't a nasty
piece of work, but I just...
510
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,720
It hit home then, and it
wasn't long afterwards, in fact,
511
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,480
after that, that I started
to get my life together.
512
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520
And you've known me a long time.
You've seen me...
513
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,400
You've seen me when I've been happy.
514
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560
You've seen me
when I've been troubled.
515
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,320
You've seen me
when I've been oblivious
516
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:36,320
and on another planet, probably.
517
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,840
But it's the first time I've
had peace of mind. It shows.
518
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,560
It shows... just why...
519
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040
I know. I just feel it.
520
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,880
Everybody feels it. I think
you look ten years younger.
521
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440
I sense you're more at peace
than I've ever seen you before, too.
522
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160
More at peace?
Yeah.
523
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,640
I think that's... and there's no
inward battle going on anymore.
524
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,560
This is very early in my sobriety.
I've been sober now for 33 years.
525
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,160
But this was... I'm looking
at my face and I look so happy
526
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960
and so different
to the person I was before.
527
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,280
It wasn't hard for me to get sober.
It was joyous.
528
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840
We are all flawed.
529
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
It's just that I realise
what my flaws are now.
530
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080
I can do something about them.
531
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,200
And there are so many millions of
people who have the same problems
532
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680
as me, and they don't communicate
533
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,480
because they don't think people
want to be there for them.
534
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,000
And if any of you are out there
listening, just...
535
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,960
it's OK to ask for help.
I didn't think it was,
536
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,200
because I thought
it was a sign of weakness.
537
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840
In fact, it's a very
spiritual thing to do,
538
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800
to ask another human being
to help you.
539
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880
And I'm very glad I did.
540
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,480
And now, as a result,
my life has changed so much.
541
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,120
You're just about to do
your new album in Paris.Yeah.
542
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480
And maybe you'll find
you're so happy
543
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200
that you can't write sad songs
anymore. It will be glad songs.
544
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Wouldn't it be strange if I went,
feeling like this,
545
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,680
and I get to Paris
and I can't write anything?
546
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,360
And you know, that's what life is.
I mean, that may happen.
547
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,160
I might go there and write the most
mediocre shit I've ever written.
548
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200
I don't sit there analysing my work.
549
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,960
Once one body of work's done,
I go on to the next,
550
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,680
and I tend to... I tend to
shift everything in the background
551
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,720
and squirm a bit
when people mention old stuff.
552
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840
But it's time in my life
that I just stood up and said,
553
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880
"Yeah, some of this is good.
Some of this is OK."
554
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Well, let's take a stroll
over to the armchair, shall we?
555
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Can you still walk after that?
(BOTH LAUGH)
556
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Start to finish, I think it's...
557
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,680
probably the single best
interview Dad ever did.
558
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,760
(INDISTINCT CHATTER, LAUGHTER)
559
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,120
And it marked a turning point
for Elton personally.
560
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Asking for help was
the hardest thing I ever did,
561
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880
and when I finally did ask for help,
562
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,880
it was like my whole body relaxed
and I always say,
563
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,880
the pilot light inside my stomach
came back on again.
564
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,720
You're a very optimistic person,
particularly now.Yeah.
565
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,480
I'd like to continue on in my life
566
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,400
getting involved,
doing more philanthropic things.
567
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,080
REPORTER: Over 152,000 Americans
have already died from AIDS.
568
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,720
The ever-growing list
of individual human tragedies.
569
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440
When he gets sober, the full weight
570
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,680
of what has happened to the gay
community comes crashing in on him.
571
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880
The number of people that he's lost,
572
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240
fellow stars, people he knew.
573
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520
And he's consumed with guilt.
574
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,480
We're dying.
575
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,760
People are dying.
576
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,960
For Christ's sake, help us.
Do something. Don't just ignore us.
577
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,480
And I understand that.
I didn't at first.
578
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,840
Another instance of me
being completely detached
579
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,000
from what was going on in life.
580
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,480
It's affected me deeply.
I won't rest until... (SIGHS)
581
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240
hopefully that there's a cure found.
582
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,560
Elton was changed forever
by the AIDS epidemic.
583
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400
He formed the Elton John
AIDS Foundation,
584
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,680
saving at least
hundreds of thousands
585
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240
and possibly millions of lives.
586
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,800
Every single that I release
in America from this point,
587
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,480
all my proceeds will go to AIDS
research and AIDS charities.
588
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440
("DON'T LET THE SUN
GO DOWN ON ME" PLAYING)
589
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
590
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,560
The thing I get most
out of my life is
591
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,680
when I'm actually being
a loving person,
592
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,240
I get more back than when
I'm being a negative bastard.
593
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Elton John!
(CROWD SCREAMS)
594
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,720
# Don't let the sun
595
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,640
# Go down on me
596
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160
# Although I search myself
597
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,120
# It's always someone else
I see, yeah
598
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840
# But losin' everything
599
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,640
BOTH: # Is like the sun
going down on me #
600
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,480
I'm very happy to be presenting
this award to our next guest.
601
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Ladies and gentlemen,
the incomparable Elton John.
602
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,320
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
603
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Elton's career in the '90s
was astoundingly successful.
604
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,240
After rehab, he then went into
writing for movies, for God's sake.
605
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,280
The Lion King. You know,
he had maybe even more success.
606
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,960
It's very nice to get this award
at this time in one's life,
607
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,880
going through the male menopause.
(LAUGHTER)
608
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,760
There's a lot more life
in the old girl yet.
609
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,320
Alright?
(CHEERING)
610
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Where Dad and Elton, I think,
shared a big similarity
611
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,640
was being obsessed by their career.
612
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,320
He had Breakfast with Frost,
613
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680
a centrepiece of British
political life.
614
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880
Hello, good morning and welcome
615
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
to the first edition
of Breakfast with Frost.
616
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120
The Breakfast with Frost years were
617
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,880
some of the best years
of Dad's career.
618
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800
It was just such an incredible show
619
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,280
that had some of the most
amazing people on that sofa.
620
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840
It would have his warmth,
his stamp on it,
621
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,680
and he'd draw in the viewer
622
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,880
and take them through
the biggest stories in the world.
623
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,920
(SIREN WAILING DISTANTLY)
624
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Steven, I have to interrupt there,
625
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,880
because within the last few moments,
626
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,240
the Press Association in Britain,
627
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640
citing unnamed British sources,
628
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,520
has reported that Diana,
Princess of Wales, has died.
629
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,280
It would have been hard
to imagine her
630
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,400
coming out of
the kind of damaged car
631
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,960
and the kind of devastation we are
seeing to the car in the tunnel.
632
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Surgeons tried for two hours
to save her life,
633
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,240
but she died at 3:00 British time.
634
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,120
CARINA: The Princess became
a very good friend of mine.
635
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,800
So I was absolutely shell-shocked.
636
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,480
It came as such a surprise.
637
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Princess Diana was my godmother.
638
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,040
It was just a monumental moment.
639
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,120
And...
640
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,280
you could just see
what it meant to Mum and Dad.
641
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,560
She was just so charismatic.
642
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,560
She would just lift you up with her.
643
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,120
And everyone was... Listen, come on.
The whole world was devastated.
644
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,480
REPORTER: Hundreds of thousands
of people have spent the night
645
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,960
camped out at Westminster Abbey,
the setting for her funeral.
646
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840
Like a dream it was, really,
the whole thing.
647
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,679
The funeral at the abbey
and everything like that,
648
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,720
was surreal for me.
649
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,800
I mean, it was just
an incredible thing.
650
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,080
REPORTER: Elton John,
who has rewritten his famous song
651
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,800
Candle in the Wind,
that was written for Marilyn Monroe,
652
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,840
for today.
653
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,880
We were sitting
right opposite Elton.
654
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,840
He was just sublime.
655
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840
I don't think anyone could have
done it like Elton did.
656
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,360
There's only been one story
in the news this past week,
657
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,320
and only one thought
in most people's hearts.
658
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,360
This morning,
we'll be talking to Elton John.
659
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,680
I don't think it's possible
to have attended Diana's funeral
660
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,520
and to do such deep
interviews about it
661
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920
the very next morning,
662
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200
and not be feeling deeply emotional.
663
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,400
Elton, everybody had
that same reaction to the song
664
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,240
of being so moved and so on.
665
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,680
It was... It was more emotional
when I finished, actually.
666
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,040
It was just such a huge relief
to have actually sang it
667
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,040
and not got the words wrong or...
668
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160
GEORGE: Dad and Elton were
both so close to Diana
669
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,520
and they were bonded with that
mutual grief.
670
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,760
DAVID: ..for 23 years,
and the nightmare was that...
671
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,480
That was clearly apparent
for anyone watching that interview.
672
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,360
You said this week,
673
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,320
"She will have no idea
how much people loved her.
674
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,960
It's a shame she could not have
known that in her lifetime."
675
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,160
I think she knew there was a lot
of love because when she met people,
676
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,360
she gave out a lot of love
and she got a lot of love back.
677
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,280
But it's impossible
for anybody to comprehend
678
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,160
the outpouring that has happened.
679
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,000
The thing that's been the most
impressive throughout the whole week
680
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,240
is the way the British people
have conducted themselves.
681
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,760
Some journalists have said
it's wrong to cry in public,
682
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640
but those journalists, you know,
683
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000
I just have no time
for them whatsoever.
684
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,960
The British public have
behaved so beautifully.
685
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,000
She won't be here anymore,
but she'll be in our hearts,
686
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,680
and it's up to everybody now
687
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,400
not just to grieve
publicly for a week
688
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,080
and then to forget about it,
but, you know,
689
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,280
to try and carry on
what she was all about, really.
690
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Dad and Elton had the discussion
691
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,800
that the nation wanted,
692
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200
and they kept it together,
both of them.
693
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,720
What are the memories
or the greatest memories
694
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,520
that you will take with you
of your friend?
695
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,240
Um...
696
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,760
Well, her sense of humour.
697
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,960
And her wicked laugh.
698
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,240
And her teasing and her flirting.
699
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Her compassion and her sincerity.
700
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,080
She was the most tinkling
laughter friend.
701
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,680
She ran down corridors, giggling.
702
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:17,520
She was just like the wind.
703
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,800
And she came and she went,
and Elton summed it up.
704
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,880
One of her other favourite songs was
Your Song, wasn't it?
705
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,480
That line has a poignant
quality today.
706
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,120
"How wonderful life is when
you're in the world."Yeah.
707
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,080
Which would summarise
your feelings about her, really.
708
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,920
Yeah, and
"Yours are the sweetest eyes."
709
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,560
That was, I think, her most
brilliant physical attribute
710
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,520
were those eyes.
711
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,720
They flirted with you,
they were sorrowful.
712
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600
They were laughing.
She had those beautiful eyes.
713
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,640
# ELTON JOHN: Your Song #
714
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,920
# It's a little bit funny
715
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,480
# This feeling inside
716
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,720
# I'm not one of those who can...
717
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,720
The performance at Diana's funeral
cements Elton
718
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,280
as a national treasure.
719
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,960
This incredible singer songwriter
who has written these enduring songs
720
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
that are just part of
the fabric of life.
721
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,120
As he gets older, there is
a different kind of honesty
722
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,040
that comes into play.
723
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Your friends all say that they think
this has been probably the happiest
724
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,240
decade of your life so far.
Are they right?
725
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,920
I would probably say so, yes.
As you get older,
726
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,640
you have less time
for the frivolous things.
727
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,280
I'd rather stay home,
go to your house for a nice dinner
728
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,000
or whatever, and see people
that you really find rewarding.
729
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,040
He was an absolute true,
true friend.
730
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,240
And his family became friends.
731
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,840
That was the thing about David,
with all the fame and renown
732
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640
and everything, he was very happily
married and he loved his sons.
733
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680
(STIRRING MUSIC)
734
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,360
As a father, Dad was incredible.
735
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160
He would always see
the funny side in things
736
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
and would never take life
too seriously.
737
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Dad worked incredibly hard,
738
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,560
but he always had time for us.
739
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,920
I remember when I became 50,
someone says, "Now, you do realise
740
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,720
that the majority of your life
741
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,600
is now behind you
rather than in front of you,"
742
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,480
which is quite an interesting way
of saying, "Don't waste time."
743
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,600
No, life is too short. There are
more priorities in my life now.
744
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,920
CARINA: Elton, with all
his fame and stardom,
745
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,960
he was very lonely.
746
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,680
And when he found David Furnish,
747
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,720
it was the perfect match for him.
748
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,280
They're devoted to each other.
749
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,320
(DISTANT CHEERING)
750
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,000
REPORTER: In Windsor, the crowds
were definitely here for a wedding.
751
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,240
Sir Elton and David Furnish
among the first in England
752
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,760
to tie the knot
in a civil partnership.
753
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,800
Some had been here since
six in the morning.
754
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Many had a view about which
Elton song fitted the day best.
755
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,760
# Rocket man! #
756
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,400
(LAUGHING) I can't sing for toffee.
757
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,640
# How wonderful life is
758
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,720
# While you're in the world #
759
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,760
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
760
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,800
# ELTON JOHN: Your Song #
761
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,640
There is no question that the
marriage of Elton to David Furnish
762
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,840
has been the high point of his life.
763
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,480
He's always telling people
764
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,920
how much he loves David
765
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,400
with the same ferocity
as he tells them
766
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600
about how he beat his addictions.
767
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600
# You can tell everybody
768
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,040
# This is your song...
769
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,360
'I had to learn how to live again.
770
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520
And after 33 years of sobriety,
771
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,120
I have a husband,
two wonderful boys,
772
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,640
and I couldn't be happier.'
773
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,720
# I hope you don't mind,
I hope you don't mind
774
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,320
# That I put down in words
775
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,360
# How wonderful life is
776
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,840
# While you're in the world #
777
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,920
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
Thank you, Las Vegas.
778
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,600
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