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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,316 --> 00:00:28,362 In the U.S. Attorney's office, all you need to do, 2 00:00:28,570 --> 00:00:31,949 all you ever need to worry about, is being good. 3 00:00:35,035 --> 00:00:36,954 You have a luxury... 4 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:41,124 of making yourself the best trial lawyer you can possibly be. 5 00:00:42,209 --> 00:00:45,337 And so if you have it within you, that is-- That place-- 6 00:00:45,420 --> 00:00:48,131 And I'm pointing back over my shoulder to the courthouse. 7 00:00:48,215 --> 00:00:50,384 That place is the best place to grow up as a trial lawyer. 8 00:00:50,926 --> 00:00:52,552 That's all I can say. 9 00:00:54,763 --> 00:01:00,060 The Rajneeshee case, the scope of this was enormous. 10 00:01:00,143 --> 00:01:04,481 To move the ashram from Poona, a small town, 11 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:08,360 lock, stock, and barrel to the United States, 12 00:01:08,443 --> 00:01:13,156 and in the course of that commit thousands of felonies. 13 00:01:13,824 --> 00:01:17,536 So, our goal was to find out who the architects of that would be. 14 00:01:18,036 --> 00:01:20,122 Clearly a target was immediately Sheela. 15 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:25,627 - Did the guru-- - Let me just finish my statement. 16 00:01:25,711 --> 00:01:27,546 This was not motivated by greed. 17 00:01:28,505 --> 00:01:30,090 This was-- This was evil. 18 00:01:49,776 --> 00:01:53,363 I remember we came to Oregon... 19 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:59,911 People saw with the magnitude of the ranch, 20 00:01:59,995 --> 00:02:02,164 what is happening is historic. 21 00:02:05,917 --> 00:02:07,669 It was heaven on earth. 22 00:02:10,339 --> 00:02:11,840 It was heaven. 23 00:02:17,054 --> 00:02:19,514 I was woken up early and told to get ready. 24 00:02:19,598 --> 00:02:23,894 You need to go and buy clothes that will be okay in America 25 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:28,357 like jeans, and still in orange, but get pants and shirts. 26 00:02:28,899 --> 00:02:30,609 I would be flying on to Oregon. 27 00:02:30,692 --> 00:02:33,945 I didn't even know-- I think I didn't even know where Oregon was. 28 00:02:34,446 --> 00:02:37,115 I mean, I was-- It was all a big blur for me. 29 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:39,743 It's like this. 30 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:46,375 We're in the geographical center of nowhere, you know? 31 00:02:46,458 --> 00:02:48,335 It's like nothing. 32 00:02:48,877 --> 00:02:54,508 There was nobody else there. Nearest town was 19 miles. 33 00:02:55,967 --> 00:02:57,594 Village of Antelope. 34 00:02:58,595 --> 00:03:01,765 And there I didn't even see five people walking around. 35 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:06,395 And when we left Antelope, this sleepy little town 36 00:03:06,686 --> 00:03:09,064 and started going to the ranch, 37 00:03:09,981 --> 00:03:16,738 I was a bit overwhelmed because it was just so wild, 38 00:03:16,822 --> 00:03:20,742 so... rugged. 39 00:03:20,826 --> 00:03:22,452 But vast. 40 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:25,705 Really wild country. 41 00:03:31,253 --> 00:03:35,382 I got picked up by a guy in a bus and drove out to the ranch. 42 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:40,011 It's a really windy road, narrow two-lane road. 43 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,808 And as you come down, you're seeing the valley, you know? 44 00:03:48,186 --> 00:03:49,312 And it's beautiful. 45 00:03:58,947 --> 00:04:04,703 And I stood over Big Muddy and you see these thousands of hills. 46 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:07,372 It was size of Manhattan. 47 00:04:08,832 --> 00:04:11,877 Sixty-three thousand acres. 48 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:16,339 They told me, look as far as you can see, 49 00:04:17,007 --> 00:04:19,634 that everything you can see belonged to you. 50 00:04:24,389 --> 00:04:29,770 It was so clear we arrived at the promised land. 51 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:33,690 In northeastern Oregon, the followers of an Indian guru 52 00:04:33,774 --> 00:04:38,236 are now only a vote away from establishing and controlling Oregon's newest city. 53 00:04:43,325 --> 00:04:46,161 We decided to have self-government. 54 00:04:46,661 --> 00:04:52,542 A hundred and fifty U.S. citizens can create their own city. 55 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:56,838 This provision... it's a fundamental right. 56 00:04:57,547 --> 00:05:00,342 One hundred fifty-four registered voters at the ranch 57 00:05:00,425 --> 00:05:05,597 went to the polls and voted unanimously to incorporate Rajneeshpuram as a city. 58 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:09,559 In the state of Oregon, any group of people living in a community 59 00:05:09,643 --> 00:05:12,771 have the right to incorporate. It's called home rule. 60 00:05:13,021 --> 00:05:16,441 You have the right to create your town, 61 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:18,735 and it's embedded in the United States Constitution, 62 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:20,237 freedom of assembly... 63 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:22,781 freedom of association. 64 00:05:23,907 --> 00:05:27,953 The first city council meeting of the City of Rajneeshpuram 65 00:05:28,036 --> 00:05:29,037 will now come to order. 66 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,872 - Great. - All right! 67 00:05:33,083 --> 00:05:35,168 A city was going to be needed. 68 00:05:35,252 --> 00:05:38,713 The community itself could issue its own building permits, 69 00:05:38,797 --> 00:05:40,924 could have its own law enforcement. 70 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:42,592 It could be independent. 71 00:05:43,134 --> 00:05:46,054 I'm here in one of the largest ranches in the northwest. 72 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:48,139 One hundred square miles of Oregon. 73 00:05:48,223 --> 00:05:50,058 Used to be known as the Big Muddy Ranch. 74 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:52,102 Today it's Rajneeshpuram 75 00:05:52,185 --> 00:05:55,063 because a prominent Indian guru and his followers bought it 76 00:05:55,146 --> 00:05:58,942 hoping to turn it into an oasis for their guru, the Bhagwan. 77 00:05:59,276 --> 00:06:03,405 A very beautiful city, a city, one which has never existed on the universe 78 00:06:03,697 --> 00:06:06,283 where people live in harmony, people live in love. 79 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:11,204 Beautiful city, example for the universe. 80 00:06:12,163 --> 00:06:16,710 I don't think there has ever been a city that's been laid out and built like this. 81 00:06:16,793 --> 00:06:22,966 A city that would be based on love and compassion and sharing, 82 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:26,428 rather than ownership and greed and anger. 83 00:06:27,929 --> 00:06:29,139 And we... 84 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:32,809 The people who lived there... 85 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:36,354 actually knew they were building that. 86 00:06:43,486 --> 00:06:47,657 I went because I thought it was going to be really exciting to build 87 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:49,326 a community from the ground up. 88 00:06:51,453 --> 00:06:52,996 We're going to be at the ground level 89 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:57,500 of the most historical community that ever was in this country. 90 00:06:57,584 --> 00:07:00,879 Well, what we're doing is trying to build 91 00:07:00,962 --> 00:07:03,798 a shrine for Bhagwan while he's still alive. 92 00:07:06,092 --> 00:07:08,678 I was working in press relations. 93 00:07:08,762 --> 00:07:12,140 We were opening our doors to the press 94 00:07:12,223 --> 00:07:16,061 because we were proud of what we were doing and who we were 95 00:07:16,144 --> 00:07:17,395 and what we were creating. 96 00:07:17,479 --> 00:07:21,399 It's probably the first attempt by mankind 97 00:07:21,483 --> 00:07:25,153 to put advanced technology to use, 98 00:07:25,236 --> 00:07:27,739 where we could live in harmony with nature together. 99 00:07:27,822 --> 00:07:30,450 We had a job ahead of us. 100 00:07:30,533 --> 00:07:32,953 Lazy people, we don't want. 101 00:07:33,495 --> 00:07:37,123 Meditators... later priority. 102 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:39,960 Now is the time for work. 103 00:07:40,752 --> 00:07:43,672 Knowing many Sannyasins over the years, 104 00:07:43,755 --> 00:07:47,342 we knew who we could call on for expertise. 105 00:07:48,593 --> 00:07:54,099 We would bring in experts to instruct, teach, and develop our own potential. 106 00:07:54,683 --> 00:07:58,561 These Sannyasins, skilled architects, scientists, planners 107 00:07:58,645 --> 00:08:01,439 have renounced the comforts of contemporary America 108 00:08:01,523 --> 00:08:03,024 to be self-sufficient. 109 00:08:03,441 --> 00:08:06,945 Taking the most creative people from your whole pool 110 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:11,700 and being able to brainstorm and come up with really innovative stuff. 111 00:08:11,783 --> 00:08:18,206 We were in a grand experiment to create something from scratch. From scratch. 112 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:34,097 It was a huge effort, especially those first few months. 113 00:08:34,180 --> 00:08:39,602 The people who were there were really very, very enthusiastic. 114 00:08:39,686 --> 00:08:41,354 They were ready to do anything. 115 00:08:41,479 --> 00:08:44,941 We worked day and night, in three shifts, 116 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:48,695 four shifts, whatever it required. 117 00:08:48,778 --> 00:08:52,991 We just constructed, constructed till body got tired. 118 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:56,578 People were working their asses off and were happy. 119 00:08:58,913 --> 00:09:03,543 People were working their asses off and are all laughing and joking. 120 00:09:06,171 --> 00:09:09,132 If they worked a 16-hour day, nobody complained. 121 00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:10,633 There was nothing, you know-- 122 00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:13,094 Like we're doing something really great here. 123 00:09:13,178 --> 00:09:16,097 Construction here at Rajneesh is marching full steam ahead. 124 00:09:16,306 --> 00:09:18,516 Roughly a hundred of the Bhagwan's followers now toil, 125 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,560 they call it worship, from dawn to dusk. 126 00:09:20,643 --> 00:09:23,188 If you can imagine building a city, 127 00:09:23,271 --> 00:09:24,981 we built everything you would have to build. 128 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:27,108 We built infrastructure. 129 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:30,236 We built our own electric power 130 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,864 that would be sufficient for 10,000 people. 131 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:36,618 Put in plumbing, 132 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:39,788 pipes going all over the ranch. 133 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:47,087 There was a huge push to put in roads. 134 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:51,883 They were the biggest bulldozers made. 135 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:57,639 You see these guys get on the D-9's and push tons and tons of earth. 136 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:02,102 They're actually up there like this, 137 00:10:02,977 --> 00:10:05,772 carving away at the side of the canyon. 138 00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:10,401 I mean, it scared the shit out of me. 139 00:10:12,862 --> 00:10:17,200 The women had a very special part in building Rajneeshpuram. 140 00:10:17,909 --> 00:10:23,832 They felt they are equal to the men and they want to also be a truck driver. 141 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:28,545 They enjoyed getting into the mud and dirt. 142 00:10:31,589 --> 00:10:32,590 Hi, Mom. 143 00:10:32,674 --> 00:10:35,385 It was city planning on a level that nobody had ever seen, 144 00:10:35,927 --> 00:10:38,680 to build something of this size and scope. 145 00:10:43,268 --> 00:10:47,313 The work was going beautifully. 146 00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:35,486 I couldn't believe it, because where before there'd be nothing, 147 00:11:35,570 --> 00:11:37,030 now there were whole settlements. 148 00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,283 We built small A-frames. 149 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:48,082 And then a shopping center was built. 150 00:11:51,961 --> 00:11:53,922 We had a banking operation. 151 00:11:56,507 --> 00:11:57,550 A pizza parlor. 152 00:11:59,010 --> 00:12:00,094 A boutique. 153 00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:04,307 The color range was a bit limited. 154 00:12:08,019 --> 00:12:09,646 There was a meditation hall. 155 00:12:11,439 --> 00:12:14,400 And it was big. It could hold 10,000 people. 156 00:12:15,985 --> 00:12:18,237 We built our own airport. 157 00:12:25,244 --> 00:12:27,580 We built a very big dam. 158 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:32,001 It is a monument we created there. 159 00:12:35,171 --> 00:12:39,759 And you feel so good being young and seeing that you're doing something 160 00:12:39,842 --> 00:12:43,304 that is so creative, so constructive. 161 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,600 We feel so proud that we had all this done. 162 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:49,936 You know, unless you see it, you don't get it. 163 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:55,233 I say this is Shangri-la that everyone dreamt of. 164 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,029 Everybody wanted to be part of that Shangri-la... 165 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:03,574 but never made it. 166 00:13:13,209 --> 00:13:19,340 Understand, when we bought the ranch, it was all... not usable land. 167 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:24,554 So, in addition to all the building, we built the farms. 168 00:13:26,556 --> 00:13:31,436 It was the cutting-edge of environmentally conscious, 169 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:36,566 land reclamation, low water use, intelligent farming. 170 00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:52,373 We wanted to take land that had been abused, 171 00:13:52,457 --> 00:13:54,584 that had been neglected, and reclaim it. 172 00:13:55,126 --> 00:13:59,505 And we feel, through a lot of hard work and love, that it can be reclaimed. 173 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,182 So, very early on, 174 00:14:09,724 --> 00:14:14,353 we could develop resources like solar power, irrigate. 175 00:14:15,313 --> 00:14:19,442 We could heal the land. We could feed the people in a holistic fashion. 176 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,570 We are going to be creating farmland 177 00:14:22,653 --> 00:14:24,655 where there hasn't been farmland here before. 178 00:14:26,074 --> 00:14:29,160 We're going to have a community which can be self-sufficient. 179 00:14:31,913 --> 00:14:36,250 We are producing most of the food, most of the milk, most of the cheese 180 00:14:36,334 --> 00:14:38,961 by ourselves within our own community. 181 00:14:45,426 --> 00:14:50,264 We completely rebuilt this whole series of check dams. 182 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:56,729 We were literally turning the desert green. 183 00:15:01,776 --> 00:15:06,114 And as it was recovered, wildlife were coming back 184 00:15:06,197 --> 00:15:08,116 because it was being rebuilt. 185 00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:12,036 We brought back nature. 186 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:20,336 We make this land alive with our sweat and our hard work. 187 00:15:20,878 --> 00:15:24,173 They should have offered us a Nobel Prize. 188 00:15:25,675 --> 00:15:30,555 I felt so proud of not just me, proud of whole community. 189 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:34,225 That we could present this to Bhagwan. 190 00:15:49,407 --> 00:15:52,368 I felt like a newly married bride 191 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:57,165 preparing to receive her husband on the first night. 192 00:16:01,669 --> 00:16:04,881 We rolled out 4,000 square feet 193 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:09,302 of green lawn carpets around his house. 194 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:13,723 And the people at the ranch who are preparing, 195 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:16,726 they want to make sure it is spotless. 196 00:16:20,146 --> 00:16:24,317 We brought animals, like peacocks. 197 00:16:35,536 --> 00:16:37,413 Little music welcome. 198 00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:44,253 It was like a beautiful Fellini movie. 199 00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:59,101 And Bhagwan comes and he sits in his chair. 200 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,318 Looking at the people in silence... 201 00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:17,870 And to see this Bhagwan smile and his beard flowing in the wind... 202 00:17:33,094 --> 00:17:39,809 Such a-- Such a reflection of love from his eyes towards me. 203 00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:58,160 Antelope, Oregon: population 40. 204 00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:00,538 Until recently a town where the biggest issue 205 00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:02,790 was the rotting floor in the fire station. 206 00:18:03,249 --> 00:18:05,293 Then the strangers arrived. 207 00:18:21,851 --> 00:18:27,440 It's just-- It's just too strange to get your mind around really. 208 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,734 Where did all this nonsense come from? 209 00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:34,614 That was worse than the red clothes, that malla was. 210 00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:39,243 I don't know what you'd call it, kind of-- A bad sign, let's put it like that. 211 00:18:39,327 --> 00:18:41,037 It just didn't seem right. 212 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:46,167 They all had something that we referred to as "the look." 213 00:18:46,709 --> 00:18:50,087 Almost like under the influence. 214 00:18:50,588 --> 00:18:55,092 It just was a look in their eyes that we all noticed. 215 00:18:55,176 --> 00:18:59,305 I thought it was, you know, weird. I thought they were weird. 216 00:18:59,388 --> 00:19:02,391 You know, he was a hypnotist before he ever came to the U.S. 217 00:19:03,059 --> 00:19:05,770 The first thing I was taught was cross your arms, 218 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:10,441 and that throws a signal to them that it's not going to work. 219 00:19:11,692 --> 00:19:13,444 And it worked pretty good. 220 00:19:13,569 --> 00:19:17,615 Crossed your arms when they start doing that stuff and they backed off. 221 00:19:21,077 --> 00:19:23,496 Everyone in Antelope mistrusts Rajneesh 222 00:19:23,579 --> 00:19:26,707 and hates the steady stream of Sannyasin who travel through town. 223 00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:28,668 Well, it's new to me. 224 00:19:28,751 --> 00:19:32,922 I don't know nothing about it. I just worry about the unknown. 225 00:19:33,464 --> 00:19:34,757 They're strangers to us 226 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,052 and their mode of living is different than we're accustomed to. 227 00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:42,306 We're really not ready for them because it's been a sleepy little town, 228 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:46,143 retirement town, and it's too much activity. 229 00:19:46,227 --> 00:19:48,229 I think everybody should go through down there 230 00:19:48,312 --> 00:19:50,064 and see just what they are doing. 231 00:19:50,606 --> 00:19:53,818 And as far as I'm concerned, they're not doing this country any good. 232 00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:55,736 Your quiet lives are pretty much gone? 233 00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:58,864 Oh, absolutely. Just really destroyed. 234 00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:02,952 Well, like it or not, they're here by the hundreds. 235 00:20:03,244 --> 00:20:09,083 Almost from the outset, they raised some concerns amongst the locals. 236 00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:11,419 There was a lot of talk as folks here in Antelope 237 00:20:11,502 --> 00:20:13,254 watched their new neighbors arrive. 238 00:20:13,421 --> 00:20:18,175 Then curiosity turned to concern when an ad appeared in a national magazine. 239 00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:21,220 "Search the nooks and corners of your sexuality," 240 00:20:21,303 --> 00:20:23,806 a suggestion that makes townspeople nervous. 241 00:20:23,973 --> 00:20:27,435 This is the downfall of our civilization, 242 00:20:27,518 --> 00:20:32,106 the free love and this sort of thing that I disapprove of. 243 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,567 We believe in marriage... 244 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:37,486 and raising a family, and they believe in raising a family, 245 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,697 but I'm not sure about the marriage part of it. 246 00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:42,992 Tell me about open marriage? 247 00:20:43,951 --> 00:20:46,996 What do you want to know about open marriage? 248 00:20:49,457 --> 00:20:50,458 Um... 249 00:20:52,293 --> 00:20:54,545 Everyone's marriage here is 250 00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:58,382 whatever the people that are involved in that marriage wants it to be. 251 00:20:58,466 --> 00:21:01,260 There are no taboos. There are no guidelines. 252 00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:03,012 There are no suggestions 253 00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:05,931 of how anyone should have their relationships with each other. 254 00:21:06,974 --> 00:21:12,480 As soon as the reality of us came in... 255 00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:15,816 people hugging on the streets, 256 00:21:16,233 --> 00:21:17,860 people kissing on the streets, 257 00:21:18,194 --> 00:21:20,279 people laughing and dancing with no music, 258 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:26,702 and all of the stuff coming in about the sex cult and the sex guru... 259 00:21:26,786 --> 00:21:29,830 Then the idea that we might have a city out there. 260 00:21:30,706 --> 00:21:33,459 Um, they got really scared. 261 00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:37,171 These are by and large conservative Christian people. 262 00:21:37,254 --> 00:21:41,425 Like, that kind of person, when they get scared, they get tight, you know? 263 00:21:44,178 --> 00:21:45,554 Okay, Margaret. Come ahead. 264 00:21:48,265 --> 00:21:51,977 The position of mayor in Antelope was just who got stuck with it. 265 00:21:52,061 --> 00:21:55,147 It passed through everybody because there was nothing happening in Antelope. 266 00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:58,108 It just happened that Margaret Hill happened to be in the hot seat 267 00:21:58,192 --> 00:21:59,735 when all this nonsense started. 268 00:22:01,529 --> 00:22:05,407 When they first came, they were truly welcomed to the community. 269 00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:12,873 They were different, and anyone who's different is looked at a lot. 270 00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:15,626 Uh, we were interested in them, 271 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:21,006 but basically it wasn't until they really started throwing their weight around. 272 00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:24,093 It's not a pleasant experience at all. 273 00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:27,179 She was strong enough to stand up to somebody 274 00:22:27,263 --> 00:22:29,306 and it definitely turned out to be necessary. 275 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:31,600 She was the right person, 276 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:34,520 but she was real close to being overwhelmed real quick too. 277 00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:35,688 Oh, yes. 278 00:22:35,771 --> 00:22:38,732 Should some-- a group of people of like persuasion 279 00:22:38,816 --> 00:22:41,318 be allowed to enter an area 280 00:22:41,402 --> 00:22:44,989 and literally wipe out the culture that is there? 281 00:22:45,072 --> 00:22:49,368 I was talking with Margaret and she said, "How come you're not doing anything?" 282 00:22:49,451 --> 00:22:52,580 And Kelly and I just kind of sat back thinking, 283 00:22:52,663 --> 00:22:56,417 "Well, you know, we don't know what's going on yet... Nothing much... 284 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:57,835 We'll just wait and see." 285 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,921 Margaret said, "Come by. I wanna show you what I've got." 286 00:23:01,005 --> 00:23:04,216 And I read through literature that she had about them, 287 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,010 articles that she had about them, 288 00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:08,429 and letters from various people talking 289 00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:10,931 about what had happened with their children. 290 00:23:11,015 --> 00:23:13,058 It was a very eye-opening experience. 291 00:23:13,142 --> 00:23:14,184 One letter from India 292 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:17,646 calls the followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh ruthless warriors. 293 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:20,065 Another from New Zealand is from a distraught mother 294 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:21,400 looking for her daughter. 295 00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:23,819 Hill says she knows the letters are only hearsay, 296 00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:26,280 but feels they're cause for concern, nonetheless. 297 00:23:26,614 --> 00:23:28,157 We're hearing about violence, 298 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,036 the so-called therapy, which took many forms 299 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,956 and which resulted in some broken bones and black eyes and this kind of thing, 300 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,792 according to the press and the letters which I received. 301 00:23:38,876 --> 00:23:42,087 One of the things that has-- We have found most irritating 302 00:23:42,171 --> 00:23:45,382 is their habit of not really telling the truth. 303 00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:48,010 Even though you catch them in a lie, 304 00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:52,056 they very blandly act as if nothing had happened. 305 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,184 They felt that we weren't real smart. 306 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:59,480 We weren't very well educated and they were going to show us 307 00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:03,108 what would be the perfect society, so to speak. 308 00:24:03,192 --> 00:24:05,903 They just assumed they were moving in with a bunch of yokels 309 00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:09,365 that wouldn't know anything, wouldn't be able to figure a thing out 310 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,158 and they were just so much smarter than what they were. 311 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,870 There's a difference between being real smart and having common sense. 312 00:24:14,953 --> 00:24:18,165 They were educated beyond their intelligence. 313 00:24:18,248 --> 00:24:20,501 People were more resilient 314 00:24:20,584 --> 00:24:25,339 and a little more apt to understand what was going on than what they expected. 315 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,512 Being in the Department of Justice, 316 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:36,350 every single problem that confronts the state government 317 00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:38,936 crosses the desk of the Attorney General. 318 00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:41,438 The work we were doing was really God's work. 319 00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:43,023 It was important, 320 00:24:43,107 --> 00:24:50,030 and we believed that that kind of government service was noble. 321 00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:53,450 This was in-- In-- 322 00:24:53,534 --> 00:24:56,954 You know, Jonestown had happened not that long ago, 323 00:24:57,413 --> 00:25:00,874 and we openly worried 324 00:25:00,958 --> 00:25:05,379 about whether a Jonestown-type event was possible 325 00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:09,591 because when people completely surrender their free will 326 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:14,346 to some leader like the Bhagwan, uh... 327 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:17,349 it opens the prospect 328 00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:22,479 that they can do things that seem completely inexplicable. 329 00:25:23,439 --> 00:25:24,732 We were worried about that. 330 00:25:27,317 --> 00:25:29,153 We're interrupting our special broadcasting 331 00:25:29,236 --> 00:25:30,696 to bring you this special report 332 00:25:30,779 --> 00:25:32,990 on the People's Temple mass suicides in Guyana 333 00:25:33,073 --> 00:25:34,408 and the murder of Congressman Leo Ryan. 334 00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:38,120 It was the religious cult known as the People's Temple 335 00:25:38,203 --> 00:25:40,372 that brought California congressman Leo Ryan 336 00:25:40,456 --> 00:25:43,584 to Jonestown, Guyana in November 1978. 337 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:46,086 Just as they were about to be taken to the airport, 338 00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:48,756 a man with a knife tried to kill Congressman Ryan. 339 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:52,468 Yeah, he said something about rob and choke and kill, 340 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,471 or what he said was he intended to kill me. 341 00:25:56,096 --> 00:25:59,224 All of this happened just moments before the ambush began. 342 00:26:05,105 --> 00:26:07,524 It was one of the followers of cult leader Jim Jones 343 00:26:07,608 --> 00:26:12,029 who murdered Ryan, setting off the mass suicide that took 917 lives. 344 00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:17,659 Tonight we have a story about a cult and one of its followers 345 00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:20,496 that in an eerie, and some may find frightening, way 346 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:22,915 began with the Jonestown massacre. 347 00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:25,000 One of the mourners at Ryan's funeral 348 00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:26,376 was his daughter Shannon. 349 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:29,838 Today, Shannon calls herself Pritam... 350 00:26:31,632 --> 00:26:36,011 a name given her by the spiritual leader in India she herself now follows. 351 00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:38,305 But she insists it is not a cult. 352 00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:42,059 Shannon used the money inherited from her father's life insurance 353 00:26:42,142 --> 00:26:43,435 to join Rajneesh. 354 00:26:43,977 --> 00:26:47,189 A lot of people would wonder what your father would feel about you living here. 355 00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:50,400 I feel if my father came to see this he would see that there's just-- 356 00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:53,237 They're exact opposites as far as I can see. 357 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,322 I mean, I'm sure anybody that was here could see that. 358 00:26:55,405 --> 00:26:58,534 I mean, if he had been to Jonestown and survived that and come here, 359 00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,118 he'd have seen they're different as night and day 360 00:27:00,202 --> 00:27:01,870 and he would have been totally supportive. 361 00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:09,044 Ryan's daughter, she herself explained it is different here. 362 00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:14,967 If they saw it correctly, they would see that we were no threat to anybody. 363 00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:20,806 Oh, we've got the daughter of the guy that went to do the Jonestown story. 364 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:24,017 I was like, "What does that have to do with anything?" 365 00:27:24,101 --> 00:27:28,772 But it was an angle. It was tying Jonestown to us. 366 00:27:28,856 --> 00:27:32,568 But it had nothing to do with us. I mean that story of Jim Jones-- 367 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:36,780 I mean, Jim Jones knew nothing about Eastern mysticism, 368 00:27:36,864 --> 00:27:38,699 knew nothing about meditation. 369 00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:39,950 He was a Christian. 370 00:27:40,534 --> 00:27:44,454 He had more to do with them than he had to do with us. 371 00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:47,457 It's a ridiculous comparison. 372 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:52,129 Our way is of living, not of suicide. 373 00:27:53,714 --> 00:27:56,842 We are life affirmative, not life negative. 374 00:27:57,217 --> 00:28:02,264 This whole angle of the cult was what the Christians could use. 375 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:06,393 I mean, just the word, because of Jonestown... 376 00:28:08,145 --> 00:28:10,856 it conjured fear. 377 00:28:10,939 --> 00:28:13,358 I think particularly since the Jones thing, 378 00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:15,819 everyone is a little fearful of cults. 379 00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:20,073 And then I have a feeling that cults control you, 380 00:28:20,157 --> 00:28:22,117 rather than you controlling yourself. 381 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,329 Rajneesh is, Biblically speaking, an anti-Christ 382 00:28:25,412 --> 00:28:27,331 that the Christian Church should be aware of 383 00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:29,708 and prepared to answer with the truth. 384 00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:32,920 I just want to be an example and a testimony 385 00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:37,382 to these Rajneesh people and to this world that's living in darkness. 386 00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:41,511 When you approach a person who is a member of a cult, 387 00:28:41,595 --> 00:28:44,556 stand straight on your own Christian faith, 388 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,934 but in Christian love deal with them. 389 00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:53,941 The designation of cult, the press latched onto this. 390 00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:56,151 Every day they line up at two o'clock 391 00:28:56,235 --> 00:29:00,113 to watch a 52-year-old man drive by in a Rolls Royce. 392 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,991 Why do they do it? What do they believe in? 393 00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:06,328 And most of the time, as you can see in the news, 394 00:29:07,621 --> 00:29:11,416 it's negative things that sell newspapers. 395 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,378 Well, Marcia, we've been looking at how this self-proclaimed god 396 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:16,713 arrived from India, how the cult has grown, 397 00:29:16,797 --> 00:29:19,132 how the tension in the area has escalated as well. 398 00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:22,594 And tonight, are the Rajneeshees dangerous... 399 00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:24,888 not only to their neighbors, but to all of us? 400 00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:27,724 Today Jim Jones is gone, 401 00:29:27,808 --> 00:29:30,978 but his spirit, his raging paranoia lives on, 402 00:29:31,061 --> 00:29:33,772 reborn not in the jungles of South America, 403 00:29:33,855 --> 00:29:36,233 but in the gently rolling hills of Oregon. 404 00:29:37,234 --> 00:29:39,278 If Rajneesh wanted to have a Jonestown, 405 00:29:39,361 --> 00:29:41,655 essentially he does have a Jonestown out in Oregon, 406 00:29:41,738 --> 00:29:45,409 and if he commanded his followers to drink poisoned Kool-Aid, 407 00:29:45,492 --> 00:29:46,910 do you think they would or...? 408 00:29:47,077 --> 00:29:51,331 One would hope that they wouldn't try it. He has a tremendous amount of control. 409 00:29:51,498 --> 00:29:54,126 Doctor, what about the group we've been looking at tonight, 410 00:29:54,209 --> 00:29:55,669 the Rajneesh group? What do you make of them? 411 00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:58,463 When you have a basically unstable personality, 412 00:29:58,547 --> 00:30:02,259 coupled with tremendous power over enormous numbers of people, 413 00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:04,886 - you have a potentially lethal situation. - All right. 414 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:07,097 These anti-cult experts were hilarious 415 00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:10,892 because they'd give definitions of what a cult was, you know? 416 00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:15,147 It was like rule-oriented and one leader 417 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:18,025 and supporting the group over the whole, 418 00:30:18,442 --> 00:30:21,320 which applied better to the U.S. Army than us. 419 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:26,742 We were a group of crazy individualists who just happened to be organized enough 420 00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:29,202 to build this community because we wanted to do it. 421 00:30:29,745 --> 00:30:34,708 We didn't like being told how to believe, how to pray, how to live. 422 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:36,418 We wanted to be free. 423 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:42,674 And the anti-cult people, who could-- Who said we were conditioning people, 424 00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:47,637 in fact, were terrified of individual freedom. Terrified. 425 00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:54,353 At that time, it was very hard 426 00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:57,773 to get any information about the Rajneesh. 427 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,776 Even reporters I talked to, trying to find stuff... 428 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:03,236 You know, it was, you know, pretty secretive. 429 00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:07,657 That movie, Ashram in Poona, it was, you know... 430 00:31:09,743 --> 00:31:11,578 It was a shock to the system. 431 00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:14,706 Obviously, it would be, you know? 432 00:31:16,083 --> 00:31:18,794 I think anybody that would see that 433 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:21,338 would be alarmed that these are the new neighbors. 434 00:31:21,922 --> 00:31:25,634 The encounter was filmed by a young German director, Wolfgang Dobrowolny. 435 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:29,554 He's a sympathizer with the cult of the guru Bhagwan Rajneesh. 436 00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:31,598 And it was only because of this 437 00:31:31,681 --> 00:31:35,435 that he was allowed to film and record aspects of Bhagwan's cult, 438 00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,688 to which the BBC and others would never have been allowed access. 439 00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:45,529 This Wolfgang, he takes the hidden camera in one of the therapy group, 440 00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:50,117 which is a violation of the group individuals. 441 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:56,164 I don't know if it was taken secretly or whether it was done openly. 442 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:57,249 I have no idea. 443 00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:02,963 But there is some film footage of Teertha's encounter group in Poona. 444 00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:07,050 In those early days, everything was allowed. 445 00:32:08,093 --> 00:32:09,886 The movie opened to a packed house tonight. 446 00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:12,139 Some of the moviegoers came here from Antelope 447 00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:16,309 to get their first glimpse of life with Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and his followers. 448 00:32:17,227 --> 00:32:20,772 People in and around Antelope get to see this 449 00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:26,736 and that is presented as who we are and what we're going to do there. 450 00:32:28,572 --> 00:32:30,699 What follows is unpleasant to watch. 451 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,619 Nothing's been added for effect or sensation. 452 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,957 I went to India to see for myself, and this is what I found. 453 00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:10,572 Come, come, come. 454 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:13,033 Shh, shh. 455 00:33:13,116 --> 00:33:14,951 Shh. 456 00:33:15,035 --> 00:33:16,369 Shh. 457 00:33:16,453 --> 00:33:21,958 - The fear! I can't find it. - Where it is? 458 00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:23,728 And that tape makes you concerned about what kind of people 459 00:34:23,812 --> 00:34:25,397 these people are going to be. 460 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,025 There was a lot of evil things going on out there. 461 00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:32,862 I think it's that Edmund Burke quote that I mentioned way back when 462 00:34:32,946 --> 00:34:37,075 that "All that's necessary for evil is for good men to do nothing." 463 00:34:39,035 --> 00:34:42,998 That's true. You do have to do something sometimes, 464 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:45,375 even though this is nothing you've planned in your life, 465 00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:47,627 that there are things that you have to do. 466 00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:15,947 Well, the Bowerman history in this region goes back to about 1869, 467 00:35:16,906 --> 00:35:22,454 when my great-great-grandfather ultimately ended up founding the town. 468 00:35:29,836 --> 00:35:33,757 Well, my father, he never set out to be rich. 469 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,634 He never set out to be famous. 470 00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:41,431 Bill Bowerman in Eugene was kind of like Queen Elizabeth in England. 471 00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:44,476 I mean, he was the man. 472 00:35:47,937 --> 00:35:49,648 He did serve in the military. 473 00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:53,860 Went to Italy and fought in the Apennine Mountains. 474 00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:57,906 Actually went behind German lines towards the end of the war, 475 00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:02,243 got the entire German Eighth Army to surrender. 476 00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:07,165 So, he received several decorations for that. 477 00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:12,045 Then went on to the University of Oregon. 478 00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:16,091 He developed a team that people wanted to come watch 479 00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:18,510 because they were starting to have some success. 480 00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:25,725 He won four collegiate national championships 481 00:36:25,809 --> 00:36:29,896 and national champions in 12 of the events. 482 00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:34,025 He was the Olympic coach in 1972. 483 00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:37,862 He was there for Munich, for the disaster that happened. 484 00:36:40,573 --> 00:36:44,786 That really took a lot of heart out of him. 485 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:49,582 And so six months later, 486 00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:52,585 after he got through coaching in the Olympics, he retired. 487 00:36:56,297 --> 00:37:00,677 At the same time, he noted that American shoe companies 488 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,763 were making really crummy track shoes. 489 00:37:04,681 --> 00:37:06,933 He started experimenting. 490 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:14,566 One day he got a little round waffle iron, about six inches in diameter, 491 00:37:14,774 --> 00:37:18,194 some retread rubber and he made these rubber soles, and glued them 492 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:22,782 to an old pair of shoes that the bottom had pretty well worn off of. 493 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:26,995 And, um, Nike became the result. 494 00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:31,082 Nike the brand was born in 1971. 495 00:37:31,708 --> 00:37:34,043 Bill Bowerman, Knight's college track coach, 496 00:37:34,127 --> 00:37:36,171 designed the famous waffle shape sole. 497 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:38,256 Together they spotted the jogging boom, 498 00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:42,135 and helped turn a non-essential product into a mainstream necessity. 499 00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:45,847 The shoes became enormously popular, the in thing. 500 00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:49,142 It's gone from jogging to aerobics to walking. 501 00:37:49,225 --> 00:37:53,313 Millions of people wear Nikes today. It's big business. 502 00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:54,981 Three billion dollars' worth. 503 00:37:55,815 --> 00:38:00,737 When Nike went public, all of a sudden my father became very wealthy. 504 00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:08,119 When we first got involved with the Rajneeshees, 505 00:38:08,203 --> 00:38:12,707 Bill Bowerman, who actually is the co-founder of Nike, contacted us. 506 00:38:13,249 --> 00:38:16,002 He owned a ranch out right near the Big Muddy. 507 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:20,673 We also got contacted by Kelly and Rosemary McGreer, 508 00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:25,386 who also owned farmland, again, right next to the Big Muddy Ranch, 509 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,306 and were looking at us to represent their interests. 510 00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:30,767 When they first came, they talked about a farming commune. 511 00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:33,561 That was fine because we would like to see it well-farmed. 512 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:38,107 But now they're talking about a city with a hotel that will have 500 rooms, 513 00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:40,360 which is the size of the downtown Portland Hilton. 514 00:38:40,443 --> 00:38:41,903 There are talks about manufacturing. 515 00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:44,614 None of those things have to do with the ranch. 516 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,491 What they really wanted was a city 517 00:38:46,574 --> 00:38:49,035 and they talked about having 10,000 people there, 518 00:38:49,118 --> 00:38:51,913 and they wanted it in a very remote part of Oregon. 519 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:56,251 So, yes, here we were faced with the situation of, well, 520 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,878 what are the impacts on the adjoining properties? 521 00:38:58,962 --> 00:39:00,338 What are the impacts on land use? 522 00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:03,591 These, of course, were questions that 1000 Friends of Oregon 523 00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:08,429 was already addressing in other contexts, but nothing like the Rajneesh context. 524 00:39:08,972 --> 00:39:11,975 My name is Bill Bowerman. The Rajneesh-- 525 00:39:12,058 --> 00:39:13,977 They came in and represented they were going to have 526 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:17,522 a nice agricultural unit on Mud Creek Canyon. 527 00:39:17,605 --> 00:39:19,232 They call it the Big Muddy Ranch. 528 00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:22,402 They have been in violation of our ordinances. 529 00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:24,571 They've been in violation of our laws. 530 00:39:24,654 --> 00:39:28,241 So, it became apparent that they were really not an agricultural group. 531 00:39:28,992 --> 00:39:31,494 I-- I feel very strongly about this. 532 00:39:32,161 --> 00:39:34,455 My father didn't like the Rajneesh. 533 00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:37,584 He felt this was a fight worth fighting. 534 00:39:38,626 --> 00:39:41,296 Well, we were very fortunate that my father 535 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:44,007 donated to 1000 Friends of Oregon. 536 00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:50,930 The 1000 Friends of Oregon was one of our biggest helpers. 537 00:39:51,014 --> 00:39:56,102 They wanted to keep Oregon, Oregon, so to speak. 538 00:39:57,270 --> 00:40:01,274 Bill and 1000 Friends came out and talked to us and asked us 539 00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:05,987 if we would sign on the original lawsuit that involved the ranch. 540 00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:08,990 We didn't know anything about lawyers or courts or anything. 541 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:12,535 So, it was a big education in a hurry. 542 00:40:13,036 --> 00:40:14,996 You're going to set a terrible precedent here. 543 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,626 You're gonna pave Wasco County with trailer houses, communes, and cities, 544 00:40:19,709 --> 00:40:22,587 whether they be religious or just strictly financially based. 545 00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:26,215 One Thousand Friends was probably the only organization 546 00:40:26,299 --> 00:40:30,678 that would file a lawsuit to challenge the Rajneeshpuram. 547 00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:34,515 One Thousand Friends basically took the entire burden on its back... 548 00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:36,935 and brought the fight. 549 00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,730 One Thousand Friends of Oregon have already filed a petition 550 00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:43,942 to have the buildings in Rajneeshpuram torn down. 551 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:48,154 I would anticipate that Wasco County will go ahead 552 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:52,825 and have the use of those buildings stopped and to have the buildings removed. 553 00:40:53,284 --> 00:40:57,705 In the courts, we took the position that farmland is for farming, 554 00:40:58,247 --> 00:41:00,541 ranch land for ranching, they're not for cities. 555 00:41:01,334 --> 00:41:06,172 I said we will come in and seek action to require you to remove those buildings 556 00:41:06,255 --> 00:41:08,758 because they were never legally built. 557 00:41:08,841 --> 00:41:14,555 There are actions in the courts which may, in effect, cancel their city. 558 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:18,393 I really believe that we're going to see the city go away. 559 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:21,646 We can go back to living in peace and quiet 560 00:41:21,729 --> 00:41:25,483 and what always was a blank spot on the map of Oregon. 561 00:41:25,566 --> 00:41:30,446 A Thousand Friends of Oregon, which was a poison... 562 00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:35,618 they wanted to demolish the work we had done. 563 00:41:36,661 --> 00:41:38,913 They've gone beyond bigotry 564 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:41,541 and are looking for senseless destruction. 565 00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:44,585 In fact, the murdering of a thriving community 566 00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:47,797 and all this in the name of, quote, "land use." 567 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,050 In no time at all, millions were being spent. 568 00:41:51,551 --> 00:41:56,973 Sheela was extremely motivated that this Big Muddy project work. 569 00:41:57,807 --> 00:42:03,104 At that point, she really got her back up and it pissed her off. 570 00:42:04,063 --> 00:42:05,732 Thousand Friends of Oregon says 571 00:42:05,815 --> 00:42:08,443 that their intention is to see this place dismantled. 572 00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:12,613 Good. They can come. They're most welcome. I'll be right on the road. 573 00:42:12,697 --> 00:42:16,200 They need to drive over me, it's their choice. 574 00:42:17,201 --> 00:42:19,537 I will paint their bulldozers with my blood. 575 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:22,790 And I'll be proud to be under those bulldozers. 576 00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:25,001 Do you think it'll get to that point? 577 00:42:25,084 --> 00:42:30,381 If they are not aware of my determination, I think they're stupid, 578 00:42:30,465 --> 00:42:31,674 they're unintelligent. 579 00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:33,760 Thousand Friends of Oregon, 580 00:42:33,843 --> 00:42:39,474 they only used land use to deny us our rights 581 00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:42,018 and derail us, 582 00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:44,937 but we were also a bit smarter. 583 00:42:47,774 --> 00:42:49,901 The chief of this outfit, Sheela Silverman, 584 00:42:49,984 --> 00:42:52,070 is accustomed to getting what she wants 585 00:42:52,153 --> 00:42:55,156 and if she can't have her own city here on the Muddy Ranch, 586 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,702 she's determined to buy the next best thing: the city of Antelope. 587 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:06,626 If you don't find the little loopholes in the law, 588 00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:10,630 it is your loss. 589 00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:15,718 We started buying the properties in Antelope 590 00:43:15,802 --> 00:43:20,098 to secure our existence as a city. 591 00:43:22,683 --> 00:43:23,893 And we took over. 592 00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:30,066 Antelope had like 40 residents at the time. 593 00:43:30,149 --> 00:43:32,360 Over half of the property in town, 594 00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:36,364 by property I mean houses and such, was for sale, cheap. 595 00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:37,824 So, the easy thing to do 596 00:43:37,907 --> 00:43:42,829 was to buy property and then get all your business operations there. 597 00:43:42,912 --> 00:43:44,163 We are hung up in court 598 00:43:44,247 --> 00:43:46,874 and we have to come to Antelope for things like housing, 599 00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:50,336 for the store that we have, for the print shop that we need. 600 00:43:50,419 --> 00:43:53,256 And until we have a change of zoning or our city on the ranch, 601 00:43:53,548 --> 00:43:55,007 this'll be the position we're in. 602 00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:58,761 We just got to do what we got to do to survive. 603 00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:02,640 And what do they call it? 604 00:44:04,851 --> 00:44:06,394 The takeover of Antelope. 605 00:44:08,104 --> 00:44:10,731 In other national news, Antelope, Oregon, 606 00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:13,526 a town out West where old-timers and newcomers 607 00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:16,737 are locked in the kind of feud that used to be settled with a shoot-out. 608 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,157 Members are moving into the tiny town, 609 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:20,741 bringing with them a way of life 610 00:44:20,825 --> 00:44:23,578 that isn't deemed respectable by some local residents. 611 00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:26,497 And the Rajneesh plan to stay for a long while. 612 00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:28,791 They're buying everything available. 613 00:44:28,875 --> 00:44:33,129 What happened here in Antelope is they basically came in like a steamroller 614 00:44:33,212 --> 00:44:34,255 and just took it. 615 00:44:35,298 --> 00:44:37,675 Until last month, this was the Antelope Café, 616 00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:40,136 a gathering place for the town's 40 residents. 617 00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:43,097 Then the café was bought by the commune at Rajneeshpuram. 618 00:44:43,181 --> 00:44:47,727 They changed the name to Zorba the Buddha. Now bananas, not bacon fry on the grill. 619 00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:51,981 That was the first one that cracked. The first one they got to. 620 00:44:52,481 --> 00:44:53,691 To many residents, 621 00:44:53,774 --> 00:44:56,277 the café exemplifies what's happening to their town. 622 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,112 I went into that café two weeks ago 623 00:44:58,195 --> 00:45:00,031 and that was the last time I'll ever go in it. 624 00:45:00,615 --> 00:45:02,909 - Why? - I just don't like them. 625 00:45:03,451 --> 00:45:08,372 It's a combination of two, religious prejudice as well as Mayflower mentality. 626 00:45:08,748 --> 00:45:11,542 I came here before you, therefore you can't be here. 627 00:45:11,834 --> 00:45:16,213 We bought the few housings that were on sale, 628 00:45:16,756 --> 00:45:22,178 and we paid full prices to Antelope people for purchases. 629 00:45:22,929 --> 00:45:25,431 Next to go was the Hicks property right next door. 630 00:45:25,514 --> 00:45:29,185 By the end of March, eight plots of land plus the café belonged to the commune. 631 00:45:29,268 --> 00:45:32,188 Well, they have bought the old green house 632 00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:36,901 and property on the lower end of town which consists of three or five lots, 633 00:45:36,984 --> 00:45:41,197 something like that, and I think seven lots on the other side of town. 634 00:45:42,073 --> 00:45:45,993 I remember this guy up here sitting with his shotgun on his porch, you know, 635 00:45:46,077 --> 00:45:47,411 "I'll never sell to them." 636 00:45:47,495 --> 00:45:50,581 Two weeks later, you know, he's got the check in his pocket. 637 00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:55,086 And you're talking about older people, you know, on a fixed budget, 638 00:45:55,169 --> 00:45:58,965 and Sheela comes in with her gold pens and diamond rings, 639 00:45:59,465 --> 00:46:03,386 and says "I'll write you a check for 50,000 dollars for this place." 640 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,597 And people go, "Well, you know, how can I say no to that?" 641 00:46:06,681 --> 00:46:09,141 and take the 50,000 dollars and run. 642 00:46:12,186 --> 00:46:16,607 Sheela had said, "If they don't sell now, they'll sell later... at my figure." 643 00:46:17,274 --> 00:46:19,735 Homeowners were very happy to sell. 644 00:46:19,819 --> 00:46:22,655 They had their properties for sale for years. 645 00:46:22,738 --> 00:46:25,825 Nobody was buying it. It was a ghost town. 646 00:46:25,908 --> 00:46:30,871 And here finally they have a lucky day where they could sell. 647 00:46:31,122 --> 00:46:35,584 All the politicians are talking about this terrible takeover by this cult... 648 00:46:36,711 --> 00:46:40,589 in this small town of older people. 649 00:46:44,093 --> 00:46:46,971 We bought property that was for sale. 650 00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:49,974 They get control of the city, and what chance have we got? 651 00:46:50,558 --> 00:46:53,060 We're outnumbered already. 652 00:46:53,144 --> 00:46:57,857 And it would be very easy for them to have control of our town. 653 00:46:58,107 --> 00:47:01,193 I don't understand where they get off saying that, "our town." 654 00:47:03,404 --> 00:47:05,114 It is everyone's town. 655 00:47:05,197 --> 00:47:08,451 We have the same equal right as they have. 656 00:47:08,534 --> 00:47:10,578 We, as a rural community 657 00:47:10,661 --> 00:47:14,790 do not like to be taken over by a cult, 658 00:47:15,291 --> 00:47:16,584 which is what's happening. 659 00:47:17,126 --> 00:47:20,171 "We're being taken over. Our community is being destroyed." 660 00:47:20,254 --> 00:47:21,630 It was a ghost town. 661 00:47:21,714 --> 00:47:24,592 What was happening was life was being brought into that community. 662 00:47:25,134 --> 00:47:27,053 And it's like we're bad people to do that. 663 00:47:31,265 --> 00:47:33,768 Well, when the Rajneesh tried to take over Antelope, 664 00:47:34,018 --> 00:47:37,772 it was a battle of sorts, no different than a war. 665 00:47:38,481 --> 00:47:42,485 They immediately started pushing, they immediately started claiming 666 00:47:42,985 --> 00:47:45,529 that we had offended them in whatever way. 667 00:47:46,072 --> 00:47:48,866 And to be right honest, after the first year, 668 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:52,244 at least the people around here didn't want them. 669 00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:56,415 You're a longtime citizen of Antelope. Give me your impressions. 670 00:47:56,499 --> 00:47:59,752 I don't like anybody who comes in and tries to take over a town. 671 00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:01,337 And that don't set with me. 672 00:48:01,712 --> 00:48:04,715 I believe there's one God, and there's only one God. 673 00:48:04,799 --> 00:48:10,262 And you start bowing down to a man, why, you're just letting Satan push you. 674 00:48:10,346 --> 00:48:12,556 They're run by Satanic power. 675 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,101 Uh... 676 00:48:16,185 --> 00:48:17,186 Get him out of here. 677 00:48:19,313 --> 00:48:20,231 Would you mind? 678 00:48:23,943 --> 00:48:25,277 And him too. 679 00:48:27,696 --> 00:48:30,699 The local ranchers, they were getting really scared. 680 00:48:32,451 --> 00:48:36,831 And they start to do things they might not otherwise not do out of that fear. 681 00:48:38,332 --> 00:48:41,168 Scared. And then angry. 682 00:48:42,503 --> 00:48:46,340 In addition to fear, there is anger in Antelope and surrounding communities. 683 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:50,261 Talk of vigilantes who may try to seek revenge on the Rajneeshees. 684 00:48:50,553 --> 00:48:51,637 Are those bullets? 685 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:55,891 Why, sure, they're bullets, .300 Savage. 686 00:48:56,267 --> 00:48:58,769 Now that just signifies we're going down fighting. 687 00:48:58,853 --> 00:49:01,438 Hey, we're American. You got it? 688 00:49:01,522 --> 00:49:04,441 You betcha. I love America with all my heart. 689 00:49:05,526 --> 00:49:07,903 I can't stand this guy doing this stuff to us. 690 00:49:07,987 --> 00:49:14,201 They're invading. Maybe not with bullets, but with money and with immoral sex. 691 00:49:14,285 --> 00:49:19,498 They wanted literally for us to pack our bags and leave. 692 00:49:20,124 --> 00:49:22,710 Not all challenges to the Rajneeshees have been legal. 693 00:49:23,252 --> 00:49:26,922 Their hotel in Portland has been vandalized twice in a single night. 694 00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:32,511 And we said, "We are not going to leave. 695 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,222 We are here to stay." 696 00:49:36,182 --> 00:49:40,186 I lived in Antelope, and a lot of American flags went up. 697 00:49:40,269 --> 00:49:44,648 And then the first thing that I saw was a "Bag the Bhagwan" sticker. 698 00:49:54,408 --> 00:49:57,745 The atmosphere was hateful. 699 00:49:58,287 --> 00:50:02,583 There were some incidents of ranchers, they shot holes in road signs 700 00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:05,294 or they just let off a few rounds into the sky. 701 00:50:06,879 --> 00:50:10,299 Telling Sannyasins to their face they're going to blow their head off. 702 00:50:10,758 --> 00:50:13,969 Take your gun, go down there, and blow them out. Waste them out. 703 00:50:14,053 --> 00:50:16,430 I mean, this the kind of feeling that they're coming to. 704 00:50:16,513 --> 00:50:19,183 In this part of central Oregon, keep a watch out for deer. 705 00:50:19,433 --> 00:50:22,144 The Rajneeshees keep a watch out for the hunters. 706 00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:25,522 A Rajneesh helicopter spotted a group of hunters on the county road 707 00:50:25,606 --> 00:50:26,690 and hovered nearby. 708 00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:30,486 You get that helicopter and you get that helicopter out of here! 709 00:50:30,861 --> 00:50:32,446 It was frightening. 710 00:50:32,947 --> 00:50:34,782 Most people were driving around in a pickup 711 00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:37,660 with a couple of rifles in the back of the cab. 712 00:50:39,995 --> 00:50:42,831 So, these are maybe not such empty threats. 713 00:50:42,915 --> 00:50:45,793 It wasn't that they were asking to be shot. 714 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:48,545 They were positively begging for it. 715 00:50:49,046 --> 00:50:52,675 You know, there's an old saying that you pick your enemies carefully, 716 00:50:52,758 --> 00:50:56,804 because the way that those enemies fight are who you become. 717 00:50:59,932 --> 00:51:04,979 Almost immediately they started harassing people in Antelope. 718 00:51:07,773 --> 00:51:10,484 They would shine spotlights in our house at night. 719 00:51:14,363 --> 00:51:16,949 My oldest daughter was screaming. 720 00:51:17,032 --> 00:51:20,703 The light was shining right and just going back and forth across the window. 721 00:51:23,706 --> 00:51:27,418 They were a very vindictive group of people. 722 00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:32,339 These elderly people would come out to mow their lawn, 723 00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:35,634 and the Rajneesh would set up a video camera in the street 724 00:51:35,718 --> 00:51:37,303 and video them. 725 00:51:37,386 --> 00:51:39,388 Why do you think they were taking all the pictures? 726 00:51:39,471 --> 00:51:40,931 Form of harassment. 727 00:51:41,015 --> 00:51:45,894 I don't especially care to have my friends photographed and in a rogues' gallery. 728 00:51:47,313 --> 00:51:49,023 Pictures were taken of everything. 729 00:51:50,149 --> 00:51:52,735 They'd go around town. They'd film everybody. 730 00:51:52,818 --> 00:51:54,403 They'd film everything. 731 00:51:54,486 --> 00:51:55,904 People got spooked. 732 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,782 These people were terrified and they-- 733 00:51:58,866 --> 00:52:02,202 People going around taking pictures of them all day long, 734 00:52:02,286 --> 00:52:03,829 just nothing but harassment. 735 00:52:04,204 --> 00:52:07,207 Now, if that's neighborly love, I'm in the wrong outfit. 736 00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:13,505 After months and months of harassment, it was just more than we could take. 737 00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:16,884 We couldn't take anymore. It's a living nightmare. 738 00:52:17,176 --> 00:52:19,219 Everybody was overwhelmed. You always wondered... 739 00:52:20,763 --> 00:52:22,056 how long it was going to last. 740 00:52:22,598 --> 00:52:24,975 If they were going to last longer than you could last. 741 00:52:25,059 --> 00:52:31,982 We're the ones that have to make sure that evil does not win the battle. 742 00:52:32,066 --> 00:52:36,820 Antelope, Oregon. It's about to be taken over by an Indian guru and his followers, 743 00:52:36,904 --> 00:52:39,490 and the townspeople who don't like this idea at all 744 00:52:39,573 --> 00:52:42,701 have decided that having no town at all is a better alternative. 745 00:52:43,243 --> 00:52:45,037 Caught between the Rajneesh Foundation 746 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,749 and 1000 Friends of Oregon are the residents of tiny Antelope. 747 00:52:49,083 --> 00:52:52,961 Their only defense they decided is to commit municipal suicide 748 00:52:53,045 --> 00:52:57,091 rather than let the religious followers take over their city government. 749 00:52:57,591 --> 00:52:59,176 We tried to disincorporate. 750 00:52:59,259 --> 00:53:01,804 And the idea was, well, if we disincorporate, 751 00:53:01,887 --> 00:53:05,516 then there's going to be no reason for them to want to be here. 752 00:53:06,392 --> 00:53:09,186 The Rajneeshees, they were pissed. 753 00:53:09,645 --> 00:53:14,441 The current city council set a petition for disincorporation, 754 00:53:14,525 --> 00:53:15,651 for an election. 755 00:53:16,235 --> 00:53:21,824 These people tried to destroy the city itself, to disincorporate, 756 00:53:21,907 --> 00:53:28,288 so that they could stop those red people from developing in Antelope. 757 00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:30,082 Antelope residents scheduled an election 758 00:53:30,165 --> 00:53:33,252 to dissolve their community before the Rajneeshees could get it. 759 00:53:33,335 --> 00:53:37,047 The motto on one bumper sticker, "Better Dead than Red." 760 00:53:37,131 --> 00:53:39,842 Nobody's predicting what the outcome will be, 761 00:53:39,925 --> 00:53:43,429 but one thing's certain: doing battle with a multi-million dollar organization 762 00:53:43,512 --> 00:53:45,806 has taken its toll on the leaders of this tiny city. 763 00:53:46,098 --> 00:53:47,224 Now, you're a mayor 764 00:53:47,307 --> 00:53:50,644 and you obviously have a position in the political system here, 765 00:53:50,727 --> 00:53:53,313 yet you are advocating giving that up. 766 00:53:53,981 --> 00:53:55,607 That is hard to do. 767 00:54:00,154 --> 00:54:01,738 Can't really talk about that. 768 00:54:08,078 --> 00:54:11,415 It's only a local election in one small Oregon community, 769 00:54:11,498 --> 00:54:13,375 but it's attracting nationwide attention. 770 00:54:13,459 --> 00:54:17,421 The dispute between longtime town residents and members of a local commune 771 00:54:17,504 --> 00:54:19,006 came to a vote today. 772 00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:22,301 The question on the ballot: should this town live or die? 773 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:49,411 It was a vote to abolish their city charter, 774 00:54:49,495 --> 00:54:51,079 a last effort to keep Antelope 775 00:54:51,163 --> 00:54:53,999 from falling under the political control of these people. 776 00:54:55,584 --> 00:54:58,295 The story begins here at the City of Antelope. 777 00:54:58,837 --> 00:54:59,796 Both groups were overwhelmed 778 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,509 by the flood of reporters and cameras who poured into town. 779 00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:09,598 Oh, there was a stream of news media from all over, all over the world. 780 00:55:11,767 --> 00:55:15,354 ABC, CBS, NBC primetime. 781 00:55:15,854 --> 00:55:17,814 It was an experience. 782 00:55:27,824 --> 00:55:31,036 Voter turnout this morning was running 120 percent, 783 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:32,663 and the number of registered voters 784 00:55:32,746 --> 00:55:35,582 was changing as quickly as the score in a basketball game. 785 00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:38,210 I'm voting the same way I would anytime. 786 00:55:38,335 --> 00:55:40,796 There's a lot more people here and more congestion, 787 00:55:40,879 --> 00:55:42,256 a lot more things we have to go through than normal, 788 00:55:42,339 --> 00:55:45,801 but as long as the election procedures goes according to law, 789 00:55:45,884 --> 00:55:47,553 that's the most important thing. 790 00:55:51,682 --> 00:55:54,434 I didn't know I was liked so much! 791 00:55:54,518 --> 00:55:56,562 Before the polls opened this morning, 792 00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:58,272 the Rajneesh had a comfortable lead. 793 00:55:59,314 --> 00:56:01,525 As of last night, it was 52 to 39. 794 00:56:02,734 --> 00:56:04,278 Two hours later, the townspeople 795 00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:06,321 had reduced their deficit to three. 796 00:56:15,289 --> 00:56:16,456 Hi. 797 00:56:29,303 --> 00:56:31,096 By midday, it appeared a majority 798 00:56:31,179 --> 00:56:34,099 of the more than 90 registered voters were Rajneeshees. 799 00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:41,273 Final tally. Yes, 42. No, 55. 800 00:56:56,580 --> 00:56:59,499 After the results were announced, Mayor Margaret Hill said, 801 00:56:59,583 --> 00:57:02,794 "Antelope residents lost more than the election tonight." 802 00:57:02,878 --> 00:57:05,631 I found it heartbreaking. I don't know why. 803 00:57:05,714 --> 00:57:11,720 I would imagine that... others did too. 804 00:57:12,804 --> 00:57:14,222 The Rajneesh have taken over. 805 00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:18,852 They'll make the state red if somebody doesn't do something to stop them. 806 00:57:20,896 --> 00:57:22,356 And believe me they will. 807 00:57:23,482 --> 00:57:26,693 You know, I thought it was hilarious 808 00:57:26,777 --> 00:57:31,740 because we were accused of using... 809 00:57:32,699 --> 00:57:37,579 the system of government we call representative democracy... 810 00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:43,377 to protect ourselves from being destroyed by those who wanted to destroy us. 811 00:57:44,044 --> 00:57:47,381 And for that, we were pilloried 812 00:57:47,464 --> 00:57:51,802 for having this horrible takeover of this small community by the red people. 813 00:57:56,598 --> 00:57:59,351 And little by little and bit by bit, 814 00:57:59,434 --> 00:58:01,979 the Rajneeshees took over Antelope. 815 00:58:02,062 --> 00:58:05,732 The townspeople were calling every single elected official 816 00:58:05,816 --> 00:58:08,235 and government official that they knew to say, 817 00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:12,823 "When is someone going to do something about these Rajneeshees 818 00:58:12,906 --> 00:58:14,866 and end the misery in my life." 819 00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:16,952 I said, "If, you know, for now, 820 00:58:17,577 --> 00:58:20,998 this is not a case that the U.S. Attorney's Office is going to pursue. 821 00:58:21,081 --> 00:58:26,128 If things change or it becomes something bigger and greater than this, 822 00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:28,839 please call us. I'll be glad to take another look at it." 823 00:58:28,922 --> 00:58:33,385 Now, that's 1982. By 1983, everything changed. 824 00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:36,013 And suddenly I wake up. 825 00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:41,476 I was at a 90 degree, sat in my bed. 826 00:58:43,145 --> 00:58:44,479 I could not sleep. 827 00:58:45,188 --> 00:58:47,232 My whole body was uneasy. 828 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:54,156 I was... I had these creepy feelings in me. 829 00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:57,409 I don't know what it is, something is wrong. 830 00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:00,203 Four hours pass by... 831 00:59:02,414 --> 00:59:04,791 and we get a call from Portland. 832 00:59:10,172 --> 00:59:12,257 Our hotel has been bombed. 833 00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:31,610 In Portland Oregon today, three explosions rocked the downtown hotel 834 00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:35,238 owned by controversial religious cult leader Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. 835 00:59:36,073 --> 00:59:38,158 First bomb exploded at 1:19 this morning. 836 00:59:38,241 --> 00:59:42,996 What concerns Chief Klum now, there might be more explosives in the building. 837 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,166 Evidently, the explosive device blew a hole in the floor. 838 00:59:46,249 --> 00:59:49,336 Blew the door off the bathroom, blew the door off the room, 839 00:59:49,419 --> 00:59:51,046 and showered the street with glass. 840 00:59:51,630 --> 00:59:53,548 And while federal and local bomb teams 841 00:59:53,632 --> 00:59:55,258 began their investigation, 842 00:59:55,342 --> 00:59:59,262 mystery enshrouded the identity of the man who had come to room 405. 843 00:59:59,346 --> 01:00:01,681 He walked in first, checked in, 844 01:00:01,765 --> 01:00:03,850 and said "I have to go back to my car and get another bag." 845 01:00:03,934 --> 01:00:08,063 He went back to his car, brought in two bags, and then went upstairs. 846 01:00:08,605 --> 01:00:11,858 Then at 2:56, two more bombs went off in the man's room. 847 01:00:12,734 --> 01:00:15,695 So far, there have been no reported fatalities. 848 01:00:16,863 --> 01:00:19,783 More than 60 followers were evacuated from the building. 849 01:00:20,075 --> 01:00:23,954 They stood out on downtown streets all night watching their hotel burn. 850 01:00:33,547 --> 01:00:37,134 This is the kind of thing we've expected because of the kind of bigotry, 851 01:00:37,217 --> 01:00:40,011 the kind of inflammatory things that have been happening. 852 01:00:40,095 --> 01:00:43,849 We didn't expect it so soon, but we did expect some time there would be bloodshed. 853 01:00:43,932 --> 01:00:47,102 Rajneesh and his disciples have been threatened a number of times 854 01:00:47,185 --> 01:00:49,354 since their arrival in Oregon two years ago. 855 01:00:49,437 --> 01:00:52,440 They say this latest action will not force them to leave. 856 01:00:52,524 --> 01:00:56,403 Nothing is going to scare us out of Oregon. We're here to stay. 857 01:00:56,486 --> 01:00:58,655 We love it here. It's that simple. 858 01:00:58,738 --> 01:01:02,117 We're preparing for anything, whether it come by air, by land. 859 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,744 However it comes, we're going to be prepared for it. 860 01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:07,622 And we want everyone to know that. 861 01:01:07,706 --> 01:01:11,209 We want everyone to know that if you're going to use violence, 862 01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:16,214 that we will be ready to take whatever action is needed to protect ourselves. 863 01:01:17,215 --> 01:01:21,094 After the bombing, it was clear. 864 01:01:22,596 --> 01:01:28,185 If I didn't take measures to protect our community... 865 01:01:30,395 --> 01:01:32,272 no one else would do it. 866 01:01:33,899 --> 01:01:38,778 That's when we went out and bought weapons in ranch. 867 01:01:41,323 --> 01:01:45,535 But if you didn't feel that way about your children, 868 01:01:45,619 --> 01:01:48,121 your community, your master... 869 01:01:50,207 --> 01:01:51,958 it would be pathetic. 870 01:01:53,168 --> 01:01:58,089 Bhagwan had said from the beginning... 871 01:01:59,925 --> 01:02:03,428 that, "I'm not Jesus, I'm not Gandhi." 872 01:02:04,638 --> 01:02:08,975 When Jesus says, "You turn your other cheek," 873 01:02:10,352 --> 01:02:12,103 you take both of their cheeks. 78831

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