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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,723 --> 00:00:06,183 I'm busy. 2 00:00:08,394 --> 00:00:10,271 Me too. 3 00:00:20,114 --> 00:00:23,242 Turn the volume down! 4 00:00:26,787 --> 00:00:28,456 Thank you. 5 00:01:30,851 --> 00:01:35,064 THE SILENCE AROUND CHRISTINE M. 6 00:02:18,858 --> 00:02:22,653 Whose's them ham and eggs getting cold here? 7 00:02:23,654 --> 00:02:25,948 Up yours, mate, I say. Up yours. 8 00:02:26,157 --> 00:02:28,450 Come and get it then! Haven't I got enough to do? 9 00:02:28,659 --> 00:02:31,245 Do your figure good. 10 00:02:31,453 --> 00:02:35,791 Since when you been interested in my figure? 11 00:02:36,250 --> 00:02:40,838 You coming, then? If you don't want it, I'll have it for you. 12 00:02:41,088 --> 00:02:44,800 Give us a hot meat-roll. - Hot meat-roll. 13 00:02:51,265 --> 00:02:54,560 Undiminished pressure on prices remains heavy... 14 00:02:54,768 --> 00:02:56,937 especially in Germany. 15 00:02:57,271 --> 00:03:02,818 AKH's personnel decreased by... 16 00:03:03,569 --> 00:03:09,074 14 percent to... 3489. 17 00:03:09,283 --> 00:03:12,286 Of these... what was last year's percentage? 18 00:03:12,494 --> 00:03:16,040 8 percent. Overseas 6 percent, that's unchanged. 19 00:03:16,248 --> 00:03:18,459 There are now 902 employees. 20 00:03:18,667 --> 00:03:23,756 Note that, and see that I get the results of the reorganisation. 21 00:03:23,923 --> 00:03:25,215 Have this typed out. 22 00:04:04,213 --> 00:04:07,758 Good morning, madam. Would you accompany us to the police station? 23 00:04:07,966 --> 00:04:12,388 We believe you may be able to assist us in our inquiries concerning... 24 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,268 You keep out of this, An. Only thing women know about economics... 25 00:04:18,477 --> 00:04:23,899 is how to hold out the hand for cash and open the legs as a reward. 26 00:04:24,692 --> 00:04:28,028 Why don't you throw your hat in the canal and crawl under it. 27 00:04:28,237 --> 00:04:31,907 Don't fly off the handle. Where's your sense of humour? 28 00:04:32,825 --> 00:04:34,243 Haven't got one today. 29 00:04:34,868 --> 00:04:38,205 The law is getting younger alle the time. 30 00:04:44,795 --> 00:04:50,134 Look! There's two of them, cheaper than one with a dog. 31 00:04:50,634 --> 00:04:54,221 They're coming to get me, lads. I've been found out at last. 32 00:04:54,430 --> 00:04:58,934 Now I'm for it. I'll spend the rest of my life in the nick, between four walls. 33 00:04:59,184 --> 00:05:04,857 You lot can come and visit me with a file in the cake. 34 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:09,236 Sit down, lads. Have one on me. 35 00:05:09,445 --> 00:05:12,698 Mrs Jongman? - Yes, lad. For 15 years. 36 00:05:12,906 --> 00:05:15,909 And I'm glad I got rid of the bastard. 37 00:05:16,118 --> 00:05:20,873 I sweated blood for that bugger. 38 00:05:22,791 --> 00:05:25,252 What'll you have? - We want to talk to you about... 39 00:05:25,502 --> 00:05:28,464 I know, lads. I know. 40 00:05:28,672 --> 00:05:32,676 Now come on, take the weight off your feet and have a drink. 41 00:05:33,010 --> 00:05:34,595 What've you done, An? 42 00:05:34,803 --> 00:05:38,348 Cough up, An. You know me, silent as the grave. 43 00:05:39,391 --> 00:05:41,768 Murder, lads. Murder. 44 00:05:41,977 --> 00:05:45,147 I done someone in. I sat on top of him. 45 00:05:45,355 --> 00:05:47,399 How, An? 46 00:05:47,608 --> 00:05:49,776 Where's my knitting? 47 00:05:51,778 --> 00:05:54,031 I throttled him... 48 00:05:54,239 --> 00:05:56,408 I swear to God... 49 00:05:56,992 --> 00:05:58,493 Honest... 50 00:06:04,917 --> 00:06:07,753 Well, what are you waiting for? 51 00:06:10,923 --> 00:06:13,926 No, that's impossible now. She's busy. 52 00:06:14,885 --> 00:06:16,845 Very well. 53 00:06:18,388 --> 00:06:22,434 The police urgently want to see you. Highly inconvenient. 54 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:26,188 First let's arrange my appointments. 55 00:06:35,364 --> 00:06:37,991 Admit that I, on the morning of 10th March, 1981... 56 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,871 did bring about the death of the owner of Boutique 22, van Houten... 57 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:49,962 together with Andrea Jannie Brouwer and Christina Maria Molenaar. 58 00:06:52,464 --> 00:06:57,302 This statement has been read to me and I duly append my signature. 59 00:06:57,511 --> 00:07:01,390 Sign here please. - Anything to oblige. Let's have a read. 60 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,895 Andrea Jannie, Christina Maria. Those your names? 61 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:10,148 Fancy! 62 00:07:10,983 --> 00:07:13,527 You might have had the decency to introduce us. 63 00:07:13,944 --> 00:07:15,696 Didn't you know each other then? 64 00:07:15,904 --> 00:07:19,408 No, never had the pleasure. 65 00:07:23,996 --> 00:07:27,708 Now there's one more thing. Who's going to look after my cat? 66 00:07:27,958 --> 00:07:30,085 I don't know what to do, Janine. 67 00:07:34,172 --> 00:07:37,134 But if you really want to, you can get the facts. 68 00:07:37,509 --> 00:07:41,138 If you're willing to dig deep enough, you can still uncover a lot. 69 00:07:41,346 --> 00:07:46,518 The West does not have total censorship. Not yet. 70 00:07:46,727 --> 00:07:51,898 Exactly, you admit it. Holland is still one of the 10 or 11 countries... 71 00:07:52,107 --> 00:07:53,817 without censorship. 72 00:07:54,025 --> 00:07:56,695 Yes, but you don't see what I'm getting at. 73 00:07:56,903 --> 00:07:58,822 I'll do this. 74 00:07:59,030 --> 00:08:02,993 Ruud means that the opportunity to acquire information still exist... 75 00:08:03,201 --> 00:08:07,581 but that people are systematically taught not to look for it. Right, darling? 76 00:08:07,873 --> 00:08:10,417 More or less. Another sherry? 77 00:08:10,625 --> 00:08:15,088 I call it preserving the Status Quo. Who's winning? 78 00:08:15,297 --> 00:08:18,133 How can you teach people not to look? Anyone can... 79 00:08:18,341 --> 00:08:23,472 Sure, by stimulating their preoccupation with what is merely pleasurable. 80 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,724 What cannot give immediate pleasure... 81 00:08:25,932 --> 00:08:31,229 is done away with, considered unimportant... 82 00:08:31,730 --> 00:08:32,981 Van den Bos... 83 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:35,358 Got Spasski on the run yet? 84 00:08:35,567 --> 00:08:38,987 No, I'm the lawyer, My wife's the psychiatrist. 85 00:08:40,614 --> 00:08:41,865 It's for you, Janine. 86 00:08:42,073 --> 00:08:45,911 No weekends off for a working woman. - Help yourself to sherry. 87 00:08:46,203 --> 00:08:48,330 Are you winning? 88 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:53,084 Van den Bos. 89 00:09:33,833 --> 00:09:38,129 Mrs Van den Bos. Coincidence meeting you here. 90 00:09:38,338 --> 00:09:40,048 Of course, you're visiting the three women. 91 00:09:40,257 --> 00:09:43,760 So I heard from the investigating magistrate. 92 00:09:44,094 --> 00:09:47,055 It's an open and shut case. They didn't deny a thing. 93 00:09:47,347 --> 00:09:50,267 They weren't very clever if you ask me. 94 00:09:50,475 --> 00:09:55,689 If they wanted to get rid of someone, they should have done it more professionally. 95 00:10:04,781 --> 00:10:06,241 After you. 96 00:10:21,297 --> 00:10:23,967 There's no doubt at all. They're completely mad. 97 00:10:24,175 --> 00:10:28,388 But I don't have to explain what you already know professionally. 98 00:10:28,805 --> 00:10:31,016 Of course you don't get cases like this every day. 99 00:10:31,224 --> 00:10:33,518 I assume you're usually assigned to women. 100 00:10:33,727 --> 00:10:38,189 What are you going to do with these? - Talk to them, try to get to know them. 101 00:10:40,275 --> 00:10:43,903 Women like those you can recognise a mile away. 102 00:10:44,112 --> 00:10:47,907 I've got to go to the investigating magistrate now. 103 00:11:09,471 --> 00:11:12,474 Visit for Mrs Molenaar. Room 7. 104 00:11:28,615 --> 00:11:31,451 Hello. I'm Mrs Van den Bos. 105 00:11:37,415 --> 00:11:40,084 You knew I'd be coming, didn't you? 106 00:11:44,297 --> 00:11:47,967 Your lawyer and the police officer told you? 107 00:11:48,927 --> 00:11:51,554 I'd like to talk to you a bit. 108 00:11:51,763 --> 00:11:54,599 As you know I'm the psychiatrist. 109 00:11:56,351 --> 00:11:58,311 Don't be scared of the cassette recorder. 110 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,649 That's just for me so I won't forget important details. 111 00:12:05,693 --> 00:12:11,157 I thought we might talk a bit about what happened... 112 00:12:12,116 --> 00:12:14,035 and about yourself. 113 00:12:22,669 --> 00:12:25,588 I've had a chat with your husband. 114 00:12:26,923 --> 00:12:29,133 The children are fine. 115 00:12:29,842 --> 00:12:34,138 He took the eldest to his mother's and the baby is with his sister. 116 00:12:38,184 --> 00:12:40,061 May I call you Christine? 117 00:12:42,897 --> 00:12:45,191 That's your name, isn't it? 118 00:12:51,823 --> 00:12:55,410 Perhaps I can take a message to your children? 119 00:12:57,537 --> 00:12:59,372 Or your husband? 120 00:13:01,207 --> 00:13:03,209 He'll manage alright. 121 00:13:13,011 --> 00:13:15,680 You don't feel like talking, do you? 122 00:13:17,724 --> 00:13:19,350 I understand. 123 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,022 It's difficult to discuss something like this suddenly with a stranger. 124 00:13:27,233 --> 00:13:29,986 Did you know the man beforehand? 125 00:13:30,319 --> 00:13:33,114 Seen him previously? 126 00:13:35,241 --> 00:13:36,659 No? 127 00:13:38,411 --> 00:13:40,663 How old are your children? 128 00:13:44,083 --> 00:13:46,252 I saw your husband but not your children. 129 00:13:46,461 --> 00:13:48,921 They're quite young, aren't they? 130 00:13:53,134 --> 00:13:56,429 Why don't you want to see your husband? 131 00:14:09,817 --> 00:14:12,528 Shall we leave it at this for today? 132 00:14:14,447 --> 00:14:18,743 I'll be back tomorrow. Perhaps you'll feel like talking then. 133 00:14:21,037 --> 00:14:23,790 You're not rid of me yet, you know. 134 00:14:58,282 --> 00:15:00,368 I'm taking these ladies to the High Block. 135 00:15:44,704 --> 00:15:46,581 Lift to ward 4A, please. 136 00:19:48,405 --> 00:19:50,532 My mother minded dreadfully. 137 00:19:50,741 --> 00:19:56,330 Every time I went home, she tried to find out if I'd hooked anyone. 138 00:19:57,122 --> 00:19:58,332 Five years ago... 139 00:19:58,540 --> 00:20:00,000 when she got desperate... 140 00:20:00,209 --> 00:20:03,921 she tried to marry me off to someone from the village, a widower with a child. 141 00:20:04,129 --> 00:20:06,340 A good prospect, she said. 142 00:20:06,548 --> 00:20:11,053 He turned out to be a commercial traveller in coffee! Old coffee clot, I called him. 143 00:20:11,595 --> 00:20:13,555 Why was your mother so anxious for you to marry? 144 00:20:13,764 --> 00:20:18,435 An unmarried daughter isn't respectable. Not quite normal. 145 00:20:18,811 --> 00:20:24,525 "Men don't like old maids. You'll have to get a move on, girl... " 146 00:20:27,653 --> 00:20:31,949 My mother always had my best interests at heart. She wanted me provided for. 147 00:20:32,157 --> 00:20:37,162 Married for financial security and children for when I'm old. 148 00:20:46,004 --> 00:20:49,508 What is so remarkable is the fact that none of you knew this man. 149 00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:51,677 You didn't either, did you? 150 00:20:52,803 --> 00:20:55,097 Had you ever been in that shop before? 151 00:20:55,305 --> 00:20:58,016 Why that man especially? - Why not? 152 00:21:00,769 --> 00:21:03,730 You didn't wake up in the morning with the feeling that... 153 00:21:03,897 --> 00:21:06,942 "Today's my day off, I'm going to murder the owner of a dress shop. " 154 00:21:07,150 --> 00:21:08,944 Not really. 155 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,906 Could it have been another man? 156 00:21:13,532 --> 00:21:15,242 Why not? 157 00:21:16,827 --> 00:21:19,037 Could it have been a woman? 158 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:23,166 Why not? 159 00:21:23,375 --> 00:21:24,835 Because... 160 00:21:29,965 --> 00:21:34,761 That's an irrelevant question. It wasn't a woman. 161 00:21:37,180 --> 00:21:40,350 Look, you're an intelligent woman. 162 00:21:41,727 --> 00:21:44,021 You must have thought about this. 163 00:21:44,229 --> 00:21:46,607 There must have been a reason... 164 00:21:49,151 --> 00:21:51,903 Try to understand I want to help you. 165 00:21:52,112 --> 00:21:53,614 Why that tone of voice? 166 00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:57,075 What's your name, your Christian name? 167 00:21:58,285 --> 00:21:59,661 Janine. 168 00:22:01,747 --> 00:22:04,625 You don't really want to claim, Janine... 169 00:22:04,833 --> 00:22:09,087 that you are so naive as to believe you can help me? 170 00:22:09,296 --> 00:22:10,964 Why not? 171 00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:13,258 My report can have a great influence on... 172 00:22:13,467 --> 00:22:16,845 It'll be of no influence whatsoever. 173 00:22:22,392 --> 00:22:25,437 Why couldn't it have been a woman? 174 00:22:25,979 --> 00:22:30,192 In spite of the fact that you could kill some women because they're so stupid... 175 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,945 we would never have murdered a woman at that moment. 176 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:37,366 Aren't some men stupid, too? - Yes. 177 00:22:38,992 --> 00:22:40,786 You've always worked with men, haven't you? 178 00:22:40,994 --> 00:22:42,579 For men. 179 00:22:43,330 --> 00:22:45,374 Were they all stupid? 180 00:22:49,961 --> 00:22:51,004 Yes. 181 00:22:51,213 --> 00:22:55,008 One of the best workers I ever had. My right hand. 182 00:22:56,176 --> 00:22:59,763 Since she left all my appointments have got muddled up. 183 00:23:00,013 --> 00:23:02,432 Did you notice anything unusual about her? 184 00:23:02,641 --> 00:23:05,394 Was she tense? Restless? 185 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,314 Didn't strike me. She did her work, was punctual. 186 00:23:10,065 --> 00:23:12,651 She was exceptionally good, you said. 187 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:15,362 Did you ever consider having her on the board? 188 00:23:15,570 --> 00:23:17,697 She was a secretary. 189 00:23:19,032 --> 00:23:23,787 ...development of the overseas network and potential expansion. 190 00:23:24,371 --> 00:23:25,997 Miss Brouwer. 191 00:23:26,790 --> 00:23:31,420 I have examined the position of Chemical United and Chemie National... 192 00:23:31,628 --> 00:23:35,048 who like us have recently established subsidiaries in Africa... 193 00:23:35,257 --> 00:23:38,218 in those sectors essential for future development... 194 00:23:38,426 --> 00:23:41,638 Could you be brief, Miss Brouwer? - Certainly. 195 00:23:42,055 --> 00:23:46,268 Disappointing results from certain Dutch companies... 196 00:23:46,476 --> 00:23:52,357 and higher interest charges caused by payment delays from West Africa... 197 00:23:52,566 --> 00:23:58,488 make it inadvisable for us to expand our investments in those countries. 198 00:23:58,697 --> 00:24:00,157 Right. 199 00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:06,913 Chemical Ltd have recently held informal discussion... 200 00:24:07,122 --> 00:24:08,832 with Mattinkro in Houston... 201 00:24:09,124 --> 00:24:11,710 on radioactive... 202 00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:29,436 radioactive isotopes. 203 00:24:30,687 --> 00:24:33,690 Is there anything we can do about this? 204 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:37,986 I should like to propose not to expand our activities in West Africa... 205 00:24:38,194 --> 00:24:41,948 because prospects are highly doubtful. 206 00:24:43,033 --> 00:24:45,535 Good thinking, Bob. 207 00:24:45,827 --> 00:24:48,830 Item Nr 8. Company structure. 208 00:24:50,916 --> 00:24:54,294 Most recent marketing data indicate... 209 00:25:23,782 --> 00:25:26,618 No, we had a good marriage. 210 00:25:26,951 --> 00:25:29,621 It was a very good marriage. 211 00:25:29,913 --> 00:25:33,124 We had our problems, ok. But who hasn't? 212 00:25:34,042 --> 00:25:36,419 I don't understand how she could do this to me. 213 00:25:38,213 --> 00:25:41,925 The two eldest are with my mother, they've got their school. 214 00:25:42,384 --> 00:25:46,137 I've got work, see... The baby is with my sister. 215 00:25:47,222 --> 00:25:52,852 I just don't understand it. She could have know I'm useless with kids. 216 00:25:56,481 --> 00:25:58,942 No, she never talked much. 217 00:25:59,943 --> 00:26:03,363 She was the quiet type, never said a lot. 218 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,825 Never had much to say. I mean... 219 00:26:06,991 --> 00:26:10,161 I worked hard, always have done. 220 00:26:10,412 --> 00:26:13,456 I'd do anything for the kids, anything. 221 00:26:13,665 --> 00:26:17,794 If you work hard the whole day, you want a bit of peace and quiet. 222 00:26:18,461 --> 00:26:23,383 Christine, she could have kept them quiet for a bit. 223 00:26:24,551 --> 00:26:29,431 I mean, she didn't have anything to do all day anyway. 224 00:26:30,432 --> 00:26:33,268 ...was wearing this dress she'd made herself, all frills... 225 00:26:33,476 --> 00:26:37,772 with a plunging neckline... 226 00:26:37,939 --> 00:26:39,774 and a flared skirt. 227 00:26:39,983 --> 00:26:43,778 Very nice, but it was a job, I tell you. 228 00:26:44,028 --> 00:26:46,656 I wouldn't have minded one but she had no time she said. 229 00:26:46,865 --> 00:26:49,659 I believe her, what with five blokes hanging around... 230 00:26:49,868 --> 00:26:53,913 the one more unemployed than the other, say they can't get a job. 231 00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:57,542 Moaning all day. No-one could keep that up for long. 232 00:26:58,084 --> 00:27:00,962 Jan's wife, the one I was talking about... 233 00:27:01,171 --> 00:27:04,007 you know how much she gets? 234 00:27:04,716 --> 00:27:06,926 Couldn't feed a budgie on that. 235 00:27:07,135 --> 00:27:12,765 I'm glad my bloke's gone, glad. He was another, spend money like water. 236 00:27:12,974 --> 00:27:16,769 I told him, I was very reasonable at times... 237 00:27:16,978 --> 00:27:20,106 I said, you can't go on like that, lad, you just can't. 238 00:27:20,315 --> 00:27:23,276 He didn't understand, no idea. 239 00:27:23,484 --> 00:27:25,695 How long have you been living alone now? 240 00:27:25,904 --> 00:27:28,072 Let's see, that was when... 241 00:27:28,281 --> 00:27:30,992 Just before Janneke married, my daughter... 242 00:27:31,201 --> 00:27:34,662 So that was about nine or ten years ago. 243 00:27:35,413 --> 00:27:38,166 Has your daughter visited you here? - Her? 244 00:27:39,083 --> 00:27:41,377 I haven't seen her for years... 245 00:27:41,586 --> 00:27:44,297 and she won't show her face here... 246 00:27:44,505 --> 00:27:47,759 unless I'm very much mistaken. 247 00:27:48,051 --> 00:27:49,677 Why not? 248 00:27:49,886 --> 00:27:54,140 She's barmy, she wanted to get married that bad. 249 00:27:54,349 --> 00:27:57,560 What she didn't do to hook that feller of hers. 250 00:27:57,769 --> 00:28:01,648 A white wedding what wasn't if you follow me. 251 00:28:02,607 --> 00:28:05,151 He married her, I'll give him that... 252 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,529 but now she's stuck in that flat with her kind. 253 00:28:17,497 --> 00:28:20,249 And since then you've lived alone. 254 00:28:22,585 --> 00:28:24,504 Did you have a bad night? 255 00:28:29,592 --> 00:28:31,511 Do you like living alone? 256 00:28:33,179 --> 00:28:34,514 Like? Like? 257 00:28:34,722 --> 00:28:37,308 I can think of something that's more fun. 258 00:28:37,517 --> 00:28:41,062 But it's peaceful all right. No one nagging... 259 00:28:41,270 --> 00:28:45,983 Do this, do that, nothing. Nice and quiet. 260 00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:12,677 Weren't you happy in your work? - Happy, that's a big word. 261 00:29:12,885 --> 00:29:15,138 I mustn't complain, but happy... 262 00:29:15,346 --> 00:29:18,641 It's not that I jumped out of bed raring to go every morning... 263 00:29:18,850 --> 00:29:21,811 but it was varied work and you could have a laugh at times. 264 00:29:22,019 --> 00:29:25,606 But the work was heavy, and always the smell of that fat... 265 00:29:25,815 --> 00:29:28,109 Did you ever try to get another job? 266 00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:31,237 A bit of an innocent, aren't you? 267 00:29:31,446 --> 00:29:35,074 An old women like me, who'd want her? 268 00:29:35,283 --> 00:29:36,951 I was lucky to have what I had. 269 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,579 Didn't you ever want to remarry? 270 00:29:40,204 --> 00:29:42,498 Do me a favour! 271 00:30:24,248 --> 00:30:26,375 Got a cigarette? 272 00:30:32,173 --> 00:30:33,841 What do you want? 273 00:30:34,050 --> 00:30:36,719 Is anything the matter? - Why would there be? 274 00:30:37,803 --> 00:30:40,056 You haven't smoked for ages. 275 00:30:41,098 --> 00:30:43,851 I felt like a cigarette. 276 00:30:44,769 --> 00:30:46,312 No thanks. 277 00:30:47,730 --> 00:30:49,732 Dinner's almost ready. 278 00:31:11,003 --> 00:31:13,547 Didn't you ever want to remarry? 279 00:31:14,048 --> 00:31:16,467 Do me a favour! 280 00:32:31,667 --> 00:32:35,296 Where's my shirt, Christine? 281 00:32:35,796 --> 00:32:37,757 Turn that radio off. 282 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:40,718 I'm late enough as it is. 283 00:32:40,885 --> 00:32:44,388 Can't you feed your kids a little earlier, or later. 284 00:32:50,394 --> 00:32:53,481 Bloody hell! Keep your tea. Too late now. 285 00:32:54,607 --> 00:32:55,816 Bag? 286 00:32:58,736 --> 00:33:01,697 Daddy's going to work now. Be good. 287 00:33:12,875 --> 00:33:16,337 ...injuries over the whole body, inflicted by blows and kicks... 288 00:33:16,545 --> 00:33:20,841 with the hand, shoes and a number of blunt and sharp instruments... 289 00:33:21,050 --> 00:33:26,222 like coat-hangers, and one of those carts, you know... a shopping cart. 290 00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:29,767 Marks left by a ring or various rings visible in the face. 291 00:33:29,975 --> 00:33:34,146 The attacks were mainly concentrated on the head... 292 00:33:34,355 --> 00:33:38,484 the abdomen, and the genitals. I just have to get a file. 293 00:33:38,859 --> 00:33:40,694 Here you are, professor. 294 00:33:42,905 --> 00:33:46,158 On the torso there is a deep cut from the Adam's apple... 295 00:33:46,367 --> 00:33:49,036 also heavily damaged, by the way, to the lower part of the abdomen... 296 00:33:49,245 --> 00:33:54,583 probably caused by a broken plastic coat-hanger wielded with great violence. 297 00:33:54,792 --> 00:33:59,672 The genitals are barely recognisable as such. 298 00:34:00,214 --> 00:34:03,425 That imbecile of an inspector... 299 00:34:03,634 --> 00:34:06,470 came with a couple of shoes and boots belonging to the women... 300 00:34:06,637 --> 00:34:08,931 and asked If I could establish which kick had been fatal! 301 00:34:09,139 --> 00:34:13,269 Absurd question, of course. As if I could say from that mess. 302 00:34:13,477 --> 00:34:15,896 The back of the head is crushed, the temple smashed... 303 00:34:16,105 --> 00:34:18,065 and the nose broken... 304 00:34:18,274 --> 00:34:20,734 Do you want to see those shoes? 305 00:34:25,531 --> 00:34:29,118 Yes, the ladies gave him quite a dusting. 306 00:35:11,702 --> 00:35:13,287 But madam... 307 00:36:17,518 --> 00:36:20,020 Now, look here, ladies... 308 00:36:52,094 --> 00:36:54,179 And after that, what happened then? 309 00:36:54,388 --> 00:36:56,390 Well, we began. 310 00:36:56,598 --> 00:36:59,309 Doing what? - Hitting and kicking and all that. 311 00:36:59,518 --> 00:37:03,188 Do you know what I really feel like now? Chocolate. 312 00:37:03,397 --> 00:37:07,776 I could just murder someone for a bit of chocolate. 313 00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:13,282 But seriously, my mouth is watering. 314 00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:17,995 Couldn't you bring me a bar tomorrow? Yes? Lovely. 315 00:37:18,453 --> 00:37:20,497 Put it on the bill. 316 00:37:20,706 --> 00:37:24,501 Do you eat a lot of sweets? - No, only now and then. 317 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:28,213 Good food, that's what I like. 318 00:37:28,422 --> 00:37:31,133 Once in a while I prepared a slap-up meal, just for myself... 319 00:37:31,341 --> 00:37:35,929 really grand, genuine French cuisine, got it from a cookery book... 320 00:37:36,138 --> 00:37:37,889 the one you get with all those coupons on packets of coffee... 321 00:37:38,098 --> 00:37:41,018 with lots of garlic, I don't mind if I smell. 322 00:37:41,226 --> 00:37:45,230 And wine, usually I drink beer, but it was wine then... 323 00:37:45,439 --> 00:37:48,275 a good one, at least that's what the bloke in the off license said. 324 00:37:48,483 --> 00:37:52,446 Was it a special occasion? - Oh no, just for me. 325 00:37:52,654 --> 00:37:56,158 The best of everything. Delicious. Got it from the cookery book. 326 00:37:56,366 --> 00:37:59,369 The wine was really too expensive... 327 00:37:59,578 --> 00:38:04,082 but believe me it tasted like heaven. 328 00:38:04,291 --> 00:38:08,128 And the beef! I got it from that expensive butcher's... 329 00:38:08,336 --> 00:38:11,423 much too expensive, but he's very good quality... 330 00:38:11,631 --> 00:38:13,633 When did you do this? 331 00:38:13,842 --> 00:38:17,804 Can't remember. Sometimes he's got these special offers... 332 00:38:17,971 --> 00:38:21,058 Was it then, after the boutique? 333 00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:24,394 Might have been. Steak the other day, just under a quarter pound... 334 00:38:24,603 --> 00:38:26,354 Was it the evening of the murder? 335 00:38:26,563 --> 00:38:31,693 Jesus, who cares, girl! Let me think. 336 00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:36,198 Yes! That's when it was! 337 00:38:39,034 --> 00:38:40,994 Did he cry? 338 00:38:44,414 --> 00:38:48,084 Had you ever hit or kicked anyone before? 339 00:38:50,003 --> 00:38:51,588 Hurt anyone? 340 00:38:54,925 --> 00:38:57,511 Did your father ever hit you? 341 00:39:00,847 --> 00:39:06,228 Yes! He kicked my behind once when I wouldn't eat my dinner. 342 00:39:06,436 --> 00:39:09,397 He was furious. 343 00:39:11,024 --> 00:39:12,734 Nothing else? 344 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:22,786 My mother didn't hit me either. 345 00:39:38,385 --> 00:39:41,221 You don't feel like talking about this? 346 00:39:42,472 --> 00:39:43,974 Why not? 347 00:39:44,432 --> 00:39:46,643 I'm not interested. 348 00:39:47,477 --> 00:39:49,563 But you joined in. 349 00:39:51,731 --> 00:39:53,525 Were you angry? 350 00:39:55,235 --> 00:39:57,153 Weren't you furious? 351 00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:00,699 What did you feel, then? 352 00:40:07,497 --> 00:40:10,542 Wasn't there anyone else in the shop? 353 00:40:20,093 --> 00:40:21,428 No. 354 00:40:28,059 --> 00:40:30,395 You three were alone with the man? 355 00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:34,774 And no one came in the whole time? 356 00:40:49,331 --> 00:40:52,417 Christine's child was there, wasn't she? 357 00:40:52,625 --> 00:40:53,960 Yes. 358 00:40:54,169 --> 00:40:56,796 Did she see any of it? - No. 359 00:40:58,089 --> 00:41:00,508 So no one saw anything. 360 00:41:01,259 --> 00:41:02,552 No. 361 00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:13,229 Here Central Post to N6, over. 362 00:41:32,207 --> 00:41:34,667 Why did you kick him, Christine? 363 00:41:35,835 --> 00:41:37,712 Because of the dress? 364 00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:47,055 Do you know why you killed him? 365 00:41:56,523 --> 00:41:58,441 May I see what you've drawn? 366 00:42:33,017 --> 00:42:35,353 Is that why you did it? 367 00:43:15,435 --> 00:43:18,187 I'll bring some drawing materials tomorrow. 368 00:43:33,036 --> 00:43:36,039 Wasn't there anyone else in the shop? 369 00:43:44,964 --> 00:43:49,594 Hello. I've just popped in to bring you the chocolate. 370 00:43:49,802 --> 00:43:55,808 That's really nice. I was just thinking what to do next. 371 00:43:56,642 --> 00:44:01,314 Fruit and Nuts, delicious! I could eat boxes full. 372 00:44:04,359 --> 00:44:08,154 By the way, wasn't there anyone else in the shop? 373 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,785 Do you know what she said? 374 00:44:13,993 --> 00:44:18,206 She said it was as crowded as a supermarket on Saturday. 375 00:44:19,082 --> 00:44:22,377 And Christine, she doesn't talk, she draws. 376 00:44:22,585 --> 00:44:25,088 One drawing after the other. 377 00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:58,788 I think she's slowly leaving her catatonic state. 378 00:45:05,711 --> 00:45:08,631 After all, she's already talking through her drawings. 379 00:45:13,302 --> 00:45:14,554 Soon... 380 00:45:14,762 --> 00:45:16,973 How much time have you got left? 381 00:45:19,642 --> 00:45:22,353 I've asked the investigating magistrate for a postponement. 382 00:45:22,562 --> 00:45:24,355 That's annoying. Why? 383 00:45:24,564 --> 00:45:27,441 I haven't finished with them. - What do you mean? 384 00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:30,486 Exactly what I said. I don't know enough yet. 385 00:45:30,695 --> 00:45:32,363 You've been working on it long enough. 386 00:45:32,572 --> 00:45:34,448 I shouldn't have thought it was so difficult. 387 00:45:34,615 --> 00:45:37,076 From what you've told me... - What do you mean? 388 00:45:37,285 --> 00:45:40,621 Well, it's obvious. These women are completely deranged. 389 00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:43,040 Or at least they were at the time of the murder. 390 00:45:43,249 --> 00:45:46,377 The photo's of the body you showed me... 391 00:45:47,128 --> 00:45:51,007 You mean they're mad. - Yes, what else? 392 00:45:57,263 --> 00:45:59,056 That's rather a rash judgement for a layman. 393 00:45:59,265 --> 00:46:02,184 I'm only a humble lawyer and not a psychiatrist... 394 00:46:02,393 --> 00:46:06,647 but what else can they be? To mutilate that man in such a way... 395 00:46:07,481 --> 00:46:09,358 Have you never seen photos of war atrocities? 396 00:46:09,525 --> 00:46:11,152 That's something else entirely. 397 00:46:11,611 --> 00:46:13,696 Oh, that's all right, is it? 398 00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:16,824 What's the matter with you, darling? 399 00:46:17,033 --> 00:46:20,244 What makes this case different from the others? 400 00:46:21,287 --> 00:46:23,247 You're usually very much involved with your patients... 401 00:46:23,456 --> 00:46:26,000 Clients. - Clients. I beg your pardon. 402 00:46:26,208 --> 00:46:28,836 But you don't think of anything else but those women. 403 00:46:29,045 --> 00:46:30,838 I can't reach them. 404 00:46:32,757 --> 00:46:36,302 They're three very ordinary women... 405 00:46:36,552 --> 00:46:39,013 people I meet every day, in the street... 406 00:46:39,221 --> 00:46:41,932 at the butcher's, at my work... 407 00:46:43,517 --> 00:46:48,230 You know, they are such normal women... 408 00:46:49,899 --> 00:46:51,942 in spite of the fact that one doesn't talk at all... 409 00:46:52,151 --> 00:46:54,695 the other far too much, and the third... 410 00:46:57,073 --> 00:47:01,744 They are really very ordinary women. 411 00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:03,162 Except that they... 412 00:47:03,329 --> 00:47:06,165 Yes I know, but that's not what it's all about. 413 00:47:08,751 --> 00:47:11,253 That is what it's all about, but I don't mean that. 414 00:47:13,631 --> 00:47:17,259 You know... Andrea... 415 00:47:18,260 --> 00:47:19,970 Who's that? 416 00:47:20,179 --> 00:47:21,472 The secretary. 417 00:47:25,434 --> 00:47:26,936 She's lying. 418 00:47:27,269 --> 00:47:31,023 That's nothing new. Most of your patients lie to you. 419 00:47:31,273 --> 00:47:33,943 Not her. She's ruthlessly honest. 420 00:47:34,151 --> 00:47:36,404 What's she lying about? 421 00:47:37,446 --> 00:47:40,574 She says there wasn't anyone else in the boutique. 422 00:47:43,202 --> 00:47:45,371 And Christine was lying too. 423 00:47:45,579 --> 00:47:48,541 How can she lie if she never talks? 424 00:47:48,749 --> 00:47:52,336 I phoned the inspector. "My dear lady", he said... 425 00:47:52,545 --> 00:47:56,173 "theoretically it's possible that others were present... 426 00:47:57,007 --> 00:48:01,387 but then we should have found them, or they would surely have reported it. " 427 00:48:01,595 --> 00:48:03,973 Or tried to intervene. 428 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:06,767 Yes... 429 00:48:08,185 --> 00:48:09,979 I wonder... 430 00:48:17,444 --> 00:48:20,197 I don't think those women are insane. 431 00:48:20,406 --> 00:48:21,657 What? 432 00:48:28,789 --> 00:48:31,500 I don't think those women are insane. 433 00:54:40,118 --> 00:54:41,661 How much? 434 00:54:44,748 --> 00:54:46,583 700 guilders? 435 00:54:48,627 --> 00:54:49,961 No. 436 00:54:53,215 --> 00:54:54,299 OK. 437 00:55:13,777 --> 00:55:17,197 ...one of the most undemocratic systems you can imagine. 438 00:55:17,405 --> 00:55:20,992 The defendant is allowed to testify, and is listened to politely, but what he says... 439 00:55:21,201 --> 00:55:23,536 Has no influence whatsoever on the verdict. 440 00:55:23,787 --> 00:55:28,333 Exactly. The Dutch legal system is by no means impartial. 441 00:55:28,541 --> 00:55:31,920 The defendant's social background is taken into account... 442 00:55:32,128 --> 00:55:34,422 but it's doubtful whether this is to his advantage. 443 00:55:34,631 --> 00:55:39,761 It's more a kind of blanket in which the system can wrap up its sense of guilt. 444 00:55:39,928 --> 00:55:43,515 The system is such that everything has been arranged before the trial. 445 00:55:43,723 --> 00:55:46,393 During the trial defending counsel is more or less present as a formality... 446 00:55:46,601 --> 00:55:50,563 so that the defendant has the impression he's being defended. 447 00:55:50,772 --> 00:55:52,023 Or she. 448 00:55:52,232 --> 00:55:56,778 Or she, of course, that he's being defended, but personally... 449 00:55:56,987 --> 00:56:00,949 I think you can do precious little as counsel for the defence. 450 00:56:01,157 --> 00:56:05,996 The only thing the judicial system does is to hurt people in the name of justice... 451 00:56:06,204 --> 00:56:07,580 and legal retribution. 452 00:56:07,789 --> 00:56:09,791 Aren't you exaggerating a bit? 453 00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:14,212 Now there is a tendency to punish physical violence more severely... 454 00:56:14,421 --> 00:56:18,216 than a few years ago, when crimes against property were severely punished. 455 00:56:18,425 --> 00:56:22,429 Of course that development was to be expected... 456 00:56:22,637 --> 00:56:25,390 but one wonders what is solved by stiffer sentences... 457 00:56:25,598 --> 00:56:29,269 if the underlying factors, I mean education, schooling... 458 00:56:36,067 --> 00:56:38,278 ...aren't changed. 459 00:56:46,244 --> 00:56:48,037 That was a lovely dinner, darling. 460 00:56:48,246 --> 00:56:51,541 You excelled yourself again. 461 00:56:52,250 --> 00:56:54,627 That brandy was much better than the one we had before. 462 00:56:54,836 --> 00:56:57,881 I'll order a case tomorrow. 463 00:56:59,883 --> 00:57:01,926 Come to bed, love. 464 00:57:35,376 --> 00:57:37,003 Don't. 465 00:57:56,105 --> 00:57:59,067 ...those women are completely deranged... 466 00:57:59,317 --> 00:58:01,611 ...they're utterly mad... 467 00:58:04,030 --> 00:58:06,616 ...she didn't have anything else to do... 468 00:58:11,246 --> 00:58:16,042 ...your report will be of no influence whatsoever... 469 00:59:20,231 --> 00:59:25,028 Three children, the first two planned and the third by accident... 470 00:59:25,236 --> 00:59:27,947 and spends the rest of her life stuck to the kitchen sink... 471 00:59:28,156 --> 00:59:30,033 and a minor civil servant... 472 00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:34,871 whose most exciting activity is probably stamp collecting! 473 00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:38,041 Do you really wonder why Christine has stopped talking? 474 00:59:38,207 --> 00:59:40,126 Nobody is listening. 475 00:59:40,334 --> 00:59:43,337 But you said you'd never talked to her. How do you know she's like that? 476 00:59:43,546 --> 00:59:45,798 A blind child can see that. 477 01:00:33,304 --> 01:00:35,556 What did you do after... 478 01:00:36,641 --> 01:00:38,226 The murder? 479 01:00:42,522 --> 01:00:44,690 I felt like an ice-cream. 480 01:00:44,899 --> 01:00:46,734 What are you going to do with all those tapes? 481 01:00:46,943 --> 01:00:48,653 I'll get them typed out. 482 01:00:48,861 --> 01:00:49,904 By whom? 483 01:00:54,158 --> 01:00:55,910 By my secretary. 484 01:00:56,118 --> 01:00:58,371 Or would you like to do it? 485 01:00:58,579 --> 01:01:01,832 No. Never again. 486 01:01:02,750 --> 01:01:07,129 I'll never have to type out anything again. I'll never have to work again. 487 01:01:07,463 --> 01:01:09,840 The government will take care of me. 488 01:01:10,049 --> 01:01:15,388 They won't shoot me or hang me, they'll take care of me. 489 01:01:16,264 --> 01:01:19,725 I'll be allowed to go quietly mad in here. 490 01:01:20,434 --> 01:01:22,520 Aren't you mad, then? 491 01:01:24,146 --> 01:01:28,943 That's for you to establish. That's what you're here for. 492 01:03:00,034 --> 01:03:02,328 Did you have an orgasm? 493 01:03:05,122 --> 01:03:07,875 You're here to establish whether I'm insane... 494 01:03:08,084 --> 01:03:11,545 not to ask after my sex life. 495 01:03:12,004 --> 01:03:15,132 The one could have something to do with the other. 496 01:03:15,341 --> 01:03:17,051 Definitely. 497 01:03:19,011 --> 01:03:21,430 Do you have many friends? 498 01:03:22,681 --> 01:03:25,017 Are you often in love? 499 01:03:26,644 --> 01:03:29,021 Have you had many lovers? 500 01:03:31,065 --> 01:03:32,691 Have you? 501 01:03:35,236 --> 01:03:38,239 What sort of man was that in the hotel? 502 01:03:40,533 --> 01:03:42,827 The man wasn't important. 503 01:03:43,536 --> 01:03:45,830 Did you come? - No. 504 01:03:46,038 --> 01:03:47,790 Why not? 505 01:03:47,998 --> 01:03:50,209 Why the hell should I have. 506 01:03:53,921 --> 01:03:56,131 You don't understand people at all, do you? 507 01:03:56,715 --> 01:03:59,385 And certainly not women. 508 01:04:01,512 --> 01:04:04,223 Was it different? 509 01:04:04,557 --> 01:04:07,476 After the act... 510 01:04:10,271 --> 01:04:12,147 the crime... 511 01:04:12,356 --> 01:04:14,316 the release of tension? 512 01:04:14,525 --> 01:04:16,026 Yes? - No. 513 01:04:25,536 --> 01:04:27,413 Was it liberating? 514 01:04:31,625 --> 01:04:33,419 Are you married? 515 01:04:34,795 --> 01:04:37,089 Is it a good marriage? 516 01:04:37,715 --> 01:04:40,593 What does your husband do? - He's a lawyer. 517 01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:46,098 What's your sex life like? 518 01:04:47,433 --> 01:04:51,770 The sexual life of the psychiatrist and the lawyer. 519 01:04:53,856 --> 01:04:55,566 Do you do it often? 520 01:04:56,066 --> 01:04:57,943 What's often? 521 01:04:58,485 --> 01:05:00,279 During the day too? 522 01:05:00,988 --> 01:05:02,823 Short? Long? 523 01:05:03,365 --> 01:05:04,742 How? 524 01:05:06,744 --> 01:05:08,245 This way? 525 01:05:08,454 --> 01:05:10,122 Or... 526 01:05:11,540 --> 01:05:13,042 like this? 527 01:05:13,834 --> 01:05:15,502 Or... 528 01:05:16,670 --> 01:05:18,172 like this! 529 01:05:20,591 --> 01:05:23,052 Or like this? 530 01:05:25,262 --> 01:05:28,223 Or perhaps like this? 531 01:05:30,184 --> 01:05:33,854 Perhaps you both pray to Freud after fucking. 532 01:05:35,230 --> 01:05:36,982 I'm sorry. 533 01:05:42,071 --> 01:05:45,449 What'll happen to you for the rest of your life... 534 01:05:45,657 --> 01:05:47,868 doesn't that interest you? 535 01:05:49,745 --> 01:05:52,206 I know what will happen. 536 01:05:55,417 --> 01:05:59,505 Do you believe there are people who won't think you're mad? 537 01:06:00,130 --> 01:06:01,965 Yes. - Who? 538 01:06:05,302 --> 01:06:06,762 Women. 539 01:06:07,137 --> 01:06:10,432 Who? The others? 540 01:06:11,767 --> 01:06:14,603 Christine? Mrs Jongman? 541 01:06:15,729 --> 01:06:17,356 Among others. 542 01:06:17,981 --> 01:06:19,650 Who else? 543 01:06:21,527 --> 01:06:23,403 Does that help? 544 01:06:24,988 --> 01:06:28,450 How can I do my job if you don't help me? - I'm not talking about your job! 545 01:06:31,370 --> 01:06:33,956 Do you know she still won't speak? 546 01:06:36,583 --> 01:06:38,085 Christine? 547 01:06:44,716 --> 01:06:46,093 Brave of her. 548 01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:50,097 What's brave about it? 549 01:06:58,730 --> 01:07:00,274 Turn that thing off. 550 01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:12,202 Do you ever stop to think? 551 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,080 Why do you ask? 552 01:07:15,497 --> 01:07:17,541 Why do you ask? 553 01:07:18,375 --> 01:07:21,044 Can't you just for once give a straight answer? 554 01:07:21,378 --> 01:07:25,674 Do you ever stop to think? Did you ever try to imagine... 555 01:07:25,841 --> 01:07:28,927 what kind of a person she was, that child who murdered a man? 556 01:07:29,136 --> 01:07:30,887 I do nothing else all day! 557 01:07:31,972 --> 01:07:33,765 The only thing you do... 558 01:07:33,974 --> 01:07:37,352 is to try and discover whether we're fully responsible for our actions or not. 559 01:07:37,561 --> 01:07:40,522 You parrot the book, you play the understanding psychiatrist... 560 01:07:40,731 --> 01:07:42,524 but that's the only thing you want to know... 561 01:07:42,733 --> 01:07:46,570 so that you can give the court a definite answer as to our temporary... 562 01:07:46,737 --> 01:07:51,241 or permanent insanity, after which you can begin your next case... 563 01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:54,745 and we can devote the rest of our lives to really growing insane. 564 01:07:54,953 --> 01:07:57,414 So you're not insane? 565 01:07:57,623 --> 01:08:00,876 Isn't that what it's about? - That's not what it's all about! 566 01:08:06,882 --> 01:08:10,385 ...or do they think you don't have to clean your arse in the nick. 567 01:08:10,594 --> 01:08:14,556 Filthy rotten bitches, scabby whores. 568 01:08:14,723 --> 01:08:17,267 I want a clean towel sod it... 569 01:08:17,476 --> 01:08:21,438 and you with your stupid questions, you scumbag. 570 01:08:21,646 --> 01:08:27,402 What use are question to me, sod it, I want a clean towel. 571 01:08:27,611 --> 01:08:31,239 And if I get my hands on you I'll do you proper... 572 01:08:31,448 --> 01:08:35,911 Going on and on all the time. I've been here three weeks... 573 01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:41,666 talking myself hoarse, are you stupid... 574 01:08:48,340 --> 01:08:53,470 I've sodding had it, the only thing I want is a clean towel. 575 01:08:53,845 --> 01:08:56,014 Is that too much to ask? 576 01:08:56,264 --> 01:09:00,685 I'm sodding sick of it all, do you hear, sick of it... 577 01:09:17,869 --> 01:09:20,330 I want a clean towel. 578 01:09:32,551 --> 01:09:34,427 She won't come. 579 01:10:13,174 --> 01:10:15,886 You still don't want to talk, do you? 580 01:10:19,389 --> 01:10:20,932 Do you believe me when I tell you... 581 01:10:22,726 --> 01:10:25,896 I really would like to talk to you? 582 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,984 Not only because I have to, in my professional capacity, but... 583 01:10:45,165 --> 01:10:47,667 May I open the curtains? 584 01:10:59,054 --> 01:11:03,975 Please tell my husband he mustn't forget to speak to Simon's teacher. 585 01:11:16,780 --> 01:11:18,782 I'll tell him. 586 01:11:23,453 --> 01:11:26,998 I'd like you to tell me why you stopped talking. 587 01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:32,962 You still don't want to, do you? 588 01:11:42,597 --> 01:11:43,932 Pity. 589 01:11:52,524 --> 01:11:53,858 Bye. 590 01:12:36,943 --> 01:12:39,154 What do you want now? 591 01:14:16,876 --> 01:14:19,003 Excuse me, wrong door. 592 01:14:49,242 --> 01:14:52,161 You are Andrea Brouwer... 593 01:14:52,370 --> 01:14:58,251 resident in Johan Kernstraat, Amsterdam. 594 01:14:58,501 --> 01:15:02,505 Christina Maria Molenaar, nee Smith. 595 01:15:02,672 --> 01:15:07,176 resident in Jaques Veltmanstraat, Amsterdam. 596 01:15:07,385 --> 01:15:13,141 Annie Jongman, nee Harmsen, divorced wife of P.C. Jongman... 597 01:15:13,349 --> 01:15:16,227 resident in Andries Snoekstraat, Amsterdam: 598 01:15:16,436 --> 01:15:18,813 I caution you to pay attention to the proceedings... 599 01:15:19,021 --> 01:15:21,232 you are not obliged to give evidence. 600 01:15:21,441 --> 01:15:25,153 Will the Public Persecutor please proceed. 601 01:15:26,529 --> 01:15:30,241 The accused are charged with having on 10th of March, 1981... 602 01:15:30,450 --> 01:15:32,493 jointly and with malice aforethought, wilfully... 603 01:15:32,702 --> 01:15:37,039 murdered Antonius Paulus Mathias van Houten. 604 01:15:37,540 --> 01:15:42,253 The arraignment is one of murder under Article 289... 605 01:15:42,420 --> 01:15:47,592 on the indictment that they did wilfully take his life... 606 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,637 by the application of blows and kicks with pointed or sharp objects... 607 01:15:51,846 --> 01:15:57,310 to the face and body with the intent to injury him so grievously... 608 01:15:57,518 --> 01:16:01,772 that death would inevitably follow. 609 01:16:01,981 --> 01:16:07,528 On the further indictment that they did, with malice aforethought... 610 01:16:07,737 --> 01:16:14,452 cause grievous bodily harm as the results of which he died. 611 01:16:14,660 --> 01:16:17,955 Should no conviction ensue: 612 01:16:18,164 --> 01:16:23,211 that a further indictment be laid of grievous bodily harm resulting in death: 613 01:16:23,419 --> 01:16:29,967 that they did severely injure him with blows and kicks... 614 01:16:30,176 --> 01:16:34,347 which injuries were followed by his death, the causing being... 615 01:16:34,555 --> 01:16:37,099 the wounds resulting from those blows and kicks. 616 01:16:37,266 --> 01:16:40,186 Ladies, you have heard the Public Prosecutor... 617 01:16:40,394 --> 01:16:43,439 and now know with what you are charged: 618 01:16:43,648 --> 01:16:46,651 that you did kill Mr Van Houten by whatever... 619 01:16:46,859 --> 01:16:48,945 Your Honour. 620 01:16:49,195 --> 01:16:54,492 Before you proceed with the case, may I urge that this trial held in camera... 621 01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:57,745 in view of the case's intimate nature. 622 01:16:57,954 --> 01:17:01,165 Evidence may be brought of an extremely painful nature. 623 01:17:01,374 --> 01:17:05,711 Evidence, that can better not be heard in the presence of the press. 624 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,047 Request denied. 625 01:17:08,381 --> 01:17:11,467 Around 11 o'clock I saw her going into the boutique. 626 01:17:11,759 --> 01:17:18,349 I just happened to look, I didn't have anything special to do. 627 01:17:20,142 --> 01:17:25,356 .. I remember when it came on the news... 628 01:17:25,648 --> 01:17:28,859 ...An... Mrs Jongman I mean... 629 01:17:29,235 --> 01:17:31,070 She said... 630 01:17:31,278 --> 01:17:34,699 Them what did it... 631 01:17:35,741 --> 01:17:39,245 At the time I didn't know that An... 632 01:17:40,496 --> 01:17:43,791 that they kicked his balls in... 633 01:17:44,125 --> 01:17:47,378 because his clothes were much too expensive... 634 01:17:47,586 --> 01:17:53,050 ...where I was taking down the particulars of a traffic obstruction... 635 01:17:53,259 --> 01:17:55,511 caused by a car illegally parked. 636 01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:00,349 The lady in question arrived meanwhile, I ordered her to remove the vehicle. 637 01:18:00,808 --> 01:18:04,061 She was behaving in an odd manner... 638 01:18:04,270 --> 01:18:07,815 What exactly do you mean by odd? 639 01:18:08,524 --> 01:18:13,612 Have you ever, as a pathologist come across such a brutal murder? 640 01:18:13,821 --> 01:18:17,283 Your Honour, I object, the question is irrelevant... 641 01:18:17,491 --> 01:18:20,119 Let me put it differently. 642 01:18:20,327 --> 01:18:23,414 Was not the body so mutilated that it appeared... 643 01:18:23,622 --> 01:18:28,169 as if a high-heeled army of Furies had viciously and horrible inflicted... 644 01:18:28,377 --> 01:18:31,130 Your Honour, this really goes too far. 645 01:18:31,338 --> 01:18:33,841 Would the Public Prosecutor be so good... 646 01:18:34,049 --> 01:18:37,011 as to restrict himself to less florid metaphors... 647 01:18:37,219 --> 01:18:41,974 and to direct his question to... 648 01:18:42,183 --> 01:18:45,186 ...having taken all this into consideration, I can come to no other conclusion... 649 01:18:45,394 --> 01:18:50,065 than that the three women are completely sound of mind. 650 01:18:53,319 --> 01:18:55,613 I demand order. 651 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:10,294 The public gallery must be silent, otherwise... 652 01:19:11,545 --> 01:19:15,966 I shall be compelled to clear the court. 653 01:19:18,677 --> 01:19:20,471 Do you mean to say, madam... 654 01:19:20,679 --> 01:19:23,641 that these women can be held fully responsible for their acts? 655 01:19:23,807 --> 01:19:25,684 That's for the court to decide. 656 01:19:25,893 --> 01:19:30,606 But what do you think as a psychiatrist? - I am speaking as a psychiatrist. 657 01:19:30,898 --> 01:19:33,150 And as a woman, I assume. 658 01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:37,446 Isn't it so, Mrs Van den Bos... 659 01:19:37,655 --> 01:19:41,533 that these three women have in cold blood... 660 01:19:41,742 --> 01:19:44,995 committed one of the most hideous and repulsive murders 661 01:19:45,204 --> 01:19:48,666 I have ever come across? 662 01:19:48,874 --> 01:19:51,293 And moreover, Dr. Van den Bos... 663 01:19:51,502 --> 01:19:54,838 that they have shown not a single sign of remorse. 664 01:19:55,381 --> 01:20:00,177 Neither during the time they spend in custody nor during this trial. 665 01:20:00,386 --> 01:20:05,516 Isn't it so, esteemed expert witness, that these women completely lack... 666 01:20:05,724 --> 01:20:09,269 any moral sense whatsoever. They are not only immortal... 667 01:20:09,478 --> 01:20:13,148 they are cold-bloodedly a-moral and a menace to society. 668 01:20:13,357 --> 01:20:16,860 I wasn't aware that it was the court's task to establish... 669 01:20:17,069 --> 01:20:20,572 whether a defendant feels remorse or not. 670 01:20:21,031 --> 01:20:24,660 Nor was I aware that defendants have to demonstrate their sense of morality. 671 01:20:24,868 --> 01:20:27,746 Would you restrict yourself to answering the questions. 672 01:20:27,955 --> 01:20:34,878 This expert witness is stating personal opinions not compatible with... 673 01:20:35,087 --> 01:20:40,509 My opinion of these women is based on years of experience as a psychiatrist. 674 01:20:40,968 --> 01:20:45,222 In this capacity I judge whether people are responsible for their actions. 675 01:20:45,431 --> 01:20:49,685 But from a psychiatrist one might at least expect... 676 01:20:49,893 --> 01:20:53,397 even from a woman, an objective attitude towards... 677 01:20:53,605 --> 01:20:56,859 What you understand by an objective attitude is your attitude. 678 01:20:57,067 --> 01:20:59,111 So you approve of their crime! 679 01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:02,656 You are putting words into my mouth. 680 01:21:02,990 --> 01:21:06,910 I'm not here to approve or disapprove of this crime or to pronounce sentence. 681 01:21:07,119 --> 01:21:08,620 But my good woman... 682 01:21:08,829 --> 01:21:12,666 We shall unfortunately have to postpone discussion of you report... 683 01:21:12,875 --> 01:21:18,088 to recess for lunch. The court will reconvene at two o'clock. 684 01:22:17,523 --> 01:22:19,900 What do you mean, if I go on like this? 685 01:22:20,108 --> 01:22:25,614 Well, you do hold some very peculiar ideas. 686 01:22:26,907 --> 01:22:30,035 So you think in this case I'd better not act according to principle? 687 01:22:30,202 --> 01:22:34,873 Of course you should, after all they've always brought you a lot of success. 688 01:22:35,082 --> 01:22:40,671 You're a woman with a very impressive record in threating criminals. 689 01:22:40,879 --> 01:22:44,716 But perhaps you could express yourself somewhat less vehemently. 690 01:22:44,925 --> 01:22:47,552 I could say that I consider these woman are not insane... 691 01:22:47,761 --> 01:22:49,972 but that I might be mistaken? 692 01:22:50,138 --> 01:22:53,642 Something like that. In that way you'll... - Preserve my reputation? 693 01:22:54,142 --> 01:22:55,852 And yours. 694 01:22:57,104 --> 01:22:59,481 Darling, I'm not concerned with me. 695 01:22:59,690 --> 01:23:01,733 Not in the first place. I'm concerned about you. 696 01:23:01,942 --> 01:23:07,572 You must realise that your views will have repercussions on your career. 697 01:23:08,532 --> 01:23:10,242 I don't matter. Those women do. 698 01:23:10,450 --> 01:23:12,911 What difference do they make! 699 01:23:19,209 --> 01:23:23,046 I mean, they're going to be locked away for years. 700 01:23:26,049 --> 01:23:28,719 You really must be more realistic, dear. 701 01:23:28,927 --> 01:23:32,889 There's no way you can score one of your brilliant successes. 702 01:23:33,098 --> 01:23:34,933 More beans? 703 01:23:36,351 --> 01:23:39,271 So this "case" as you insist on calling it although... 704 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,315 I've tried to explain more than once that this isn't just a "case"... 705 01:23:42,524 --> 01:23:44,776 Stop and think, darling! 706 01:23:44,985 --> 01:23:46,862 If you get carried away by momentary idealism... 707 01:23:47,070 --> 01:23:52,492 Do you really think I'm such an imbecile? - You must face the consequences! 708 01:23:52,701 --> 01:23:56,955 I can't afford to lose clients because of this sorbid affair. 709 01:24:02,502 --> 01:24:05,797 If you back-pedal on what you said in court... 710 01:24:06,006 --> 01:24:09,843 I mean if you just tone it down a bit... 711 01:24:12,220 --> 01:24:15,640 So if tomorrow... 712 01:24:15,891 --> 01:24:20,187 there's a pleasing mention in the paper... 713 01:24:20,395 --> 01:24:23,690 then your name won't be tarnished by this "sordid affair"! 714 01:24:23,899 --> 01:24:26,359 Darling, you must think of yourself. 715 01:24:26,568 --> 01:24:28,904 Don't worry. I will. 716 01:24:30,155 --> 01:24:31,823 As those women did. 717 01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:36,328 Mrs Van den Bos, if I might now refer to a passage in your report... 718 01:24:36,536 --> 01:24:38,580 on the defendant Molenaar... 719 01:24:38,830 --> 01:24:44,586 in which you state that her catatonia... 720 01:24:44,795 --> 01:24:49,800 need not necessarily be caused by, or be a consequence... 721 01:24:50,008 --> 01:24:53,470 of her mental state during the crime. 722 01:24:53,678 --> 01:24:55,096 That's right. 723 01:24:55,305 --> 01:24:59,893 Her catatonia is no indication of diminished responsibility... 724 01:25:00,101 --> 01:25:02,521 or possible insanity. 725 01:25:02,854 --> 01:25:07,734 I consider that latent symptoms of catatonia... 726 01:25:07,943 --> 01:25:10,737 were already present in her life before she committed the crime. 727 01:25:10,946 --> 01:25:14,741 Do you mean she was already insane before she committed the crime? 728 01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:17,160 Absolutely not. 729 01:25:17,536 --> 01:25:20,580 Long periods of lethargy... 730 01:25:20,747 --> 01:25:25,460 of not talking, were normal in Mrs Molenaar's life. 731 01:25:26,002 --> 01:25:28,380 But she was aware of that. 732 01:25:28,588 --> 01:25:31,758 Her refusal to speak now is the consequence of a choice she has made. 733 01:25:31,967 --> 01:25:35,929 She is capable of communication but no longer sees the sense of it. 734 01:25:37,847 --> 01:25:43,562 But why hasn't she talked to you? I take it you have explained to her... 735 01:25:43,728 --> 01:25:46,398 that the court always takes a defendant's social... 736 01:25:46,606 --> 01:25:48,900 and psychological background into account. 737 01:25:49,150 --> 01:25:53,363 And surely she knows that your report is of the greatest importance... 738 01:25:53,572 --> 01:25:56,366 in determining her sentence... 739 01:25:56,575 --> 01:25:59,327 and that her future depends to a large extent on... 740 01:26:01,329 --> 01:26:06,293 The defendant seems to find this highly amusing. 741 01:26:14,592 --> 01:26:18,471 Dr. Van den Bos, I put it to you again. 742 01:26:19,180 --> 01:26:21,516 We are confronted here by three women... 743 01:26:21,725 --> 01:26:25,729 who have confessed to a murder... 744 01:26:26,104 --> 01:26:30,400 at which no one else was present and which no one else saw... 745 01:26:30,692 --> 01:26:35,280 of a man they did not know, and against whom they held no grudge. 746 01:26:36,323 --> 01:26:41,244 These women did not know each other. 747 01:26:41,453 --> 01:26:47,208 The police verified that they had no connection with each other whatsoever. 748 01:26:50,503 --> 01:26:52,839 You agree with me so far. 749 01:26:53,048 --> 01:26:55,884 Hasn't it struck you this concerns three women? 750 01:26:56,092 --> 01:26:59,596 Of course it's struck me this concerns three women. 751 01:26:59,804 --> 01:27:03,433 It's a fact one can hardly overlook. 752 01:27:03,725 --> 01:27:08,438 These three women however, improbable as it sounds... 753 01:27:08,646 --> 01:27:12,817 happen to meet each other in a boutique one fine March day... 754 01:27:13,026 --> 01:27:17,614 to buy dresses, blouses and suchlike. 755 01:27:17,822 --> 01:27:21,910 But instead of indulging in this harmless pastime... 756 01:27:22,118 --> 01:27:24,496 I don't understand why you think it necessary to describe... 757 01:27:24,704 --> 01:27:28,458 buying clothes as "indulging in a harmless pastime". 758 01:27:28,666 --> 01:27:30,251 Do you buy your clothes like that? 759 01:27:30,710 --> 01:27:36,174 Madam, please allow me to do my duty without bothering me with trivialities. 760 01:27:36,382 --> 01:27:40,595 These three women then, indulged, no wallowed... 761 01:27:40,804 --> 01:27:44,390 in the butchery of the proprietor of the boutique... 762 01:27:44,599 --> 01:27:48,478 Your Honour, I object to the prosecutor's choice of words... 763 01:27:48,686 --> 01:27:51,564 Would counsel be so kind as not to interrupt. 764 01:27:51,773 --> 01:27:56,069 With a savagery which should horrify every decent minded person... 765 01:27:56,277 --> 01:28:00,698 ...provided of course that they are sane. 766 01:28:00,949 --> 01:28:03,243 And that this was done by women! 767 01:28:03,451 --> 01:28:09,499 I ask you, Dr. Van den Bos, as an experienced psychiatrist, why? 768 01:28:09,707 --> 01:28:13,837 What was the motive of these women to commit this murder? 769 01:28:14,045 --> 01:28:19,843 It's not my task to establish motive. That's for the court to decide. 770 01:28:20,051 --> 01:28:22,345 But my dear madam, you must have some idea! 771 01:28:22,554 --> 01:28:27,767 But my dear sir, I gave you some excellent reasons just now! 772 01:28:27,976 --> 01:28:33,439 You chose to treat it flippantly. As an experienced prosecutor... 773 01:28:33,648 --> 01:28:36,192 you have clearly shown in your entertaining speech... 774 01:28:36,401 --> 01:28:39,237 that you do not really wish to go into the motives of these women! 775 01:28:42,156 --> 01:28:46,286 Mrs Van den Bos, you are a highly qualified person. 776 01:28:46,494 --> 01:28:49,122 Let me assure you we are all convinced of that. 777 01:28:49,747 --> 01:28:53,334 As a psychiatrist you have surely more than enough experience... 778 01:28:53,543 --> 01:28:56,212 to provide a diagnosis in this matter too. 779 01:28:56,421 --> 01:29:00,842 But perhaps, because of the exceptional nature of this case... 780 01:29:01,050 --> 01:29:07,307 you may prefer to offer a tentative, provisional diagnoses? 781 01:29:10,059 --> 01:29:13,021 What I mean to say is... 782 01:29:13,813 --> 01:29:19,027 If these women are sane, as you state... 783 01:29:19,319 --> 01:29:22,613 they must surely have had a motive? 784 01:29:22,822 --> 01:29:25,992 It will not have escaped your attention that these women killed... 785 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:30,830 a man who also happened to be the owner of a boutique. 786 01:29:31,164 --> 01:29:33,666 What are you getting at? - That it's an important point! 787 01:29:33,875 --> 01:29:34,917 If you refuse... 788 01:29:35,126 --> 01:29:37,920 Do you mean they had something against a man who happened... 789 01:29:38,129 --> 01:29:40,673 to sell clothes as a job? There are so many like him. 790 01:29:40,882 --> 01:29:43,551 Exactly! Now don't you understand that this man... 791 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,804 Really, Mr Van den Bos, I see absolutely no difference... 792 01:29:47,013 --> 01:29:50,600 between this case and, let's say... 793 01:29:50,808 --> 01:29:54,771 if they had killed the female owner of a shop, or the other way round... 794 01:29:54,979 --> 01:29:59,776 if three men had killed the female owner of a boutique. 795 01:30:22,006 --> 01:30:23,007 Ladies... 796 01:30:28,137 --> 01:30:30,973 Ladies, this is contempt of court... 797 01:30:38,940 --> 01:30:45,571 Mrs Jongman, you're not doing your case any good at all. 798 01:30:55,373 --> 01:30:58,000 Ladies, this is contempt of court... 799 01:31:14,517 --> 01:31:16,727 Ladies, this is impossible... 800 01:31:18,229 --> 01:31:22,567 This is enough! This disgraceful behaviour... 801 01:31:22,900 --> 01:31:26,404 It's really quite funny. - What did you say? 802 01:31:27,655 --> 01:31:29,282 This is quite enough. 803 01:31:29,574 --> 01:31:33,452 Officer, will you remove the ladies with as little force as possible. 804 01:32:02,064 --> 01:32:06,319 The case will now continue in the absence of the defendants. 805 01:32:06,527 --> 01:32:09,405 Mrs Van den Bos? Dr. Van den Bos... 806 01:32:13,117 --> 01:32:17,872 The case will continue in the absence of the defendants. 807 01:32:35,222 --> 01:32:37,892 Look where you're going, cunt. 808 01:32:40,892 --> 01:32:44,892 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 65384

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