All language subtitles for Who is Luigi Mangione

Hi, I'm Brian Thompson,
CEO of UnitedHealthcare.

He could have done a
lot of good in this world.

Talented, very bright.

I knew Brian, tragic.

And he was taken way too soon.

Reggie Nicholas Mangiani.

He was brilliant,
valedictorian, and well-liked.

He suffers a life-changing
injury during a surfing accident.

And it seems he has an enemy in his
crosshairs, and it is the insurance industry.

Frankly, these parasites
simply had it coming.

And on the morning of December 4th,

based on everything we
know from law enforcement,

it seems the paths of these
two former valedictorians

were about to cross.

Earlier this morning, members
of the Altoona Police Department

arrested Luigi Mangioni in the brazen
targeted murder of Brian Thompson.

♪ Luigi, Luigi, Luigi, Luigi ♪

As soon as he was arrested, Luigi
Mangioni became a hero to many.

Young women are writing him
letters and throwing him kisses.

Realty or not realty?

Not realty.

Of course, the question now
becomes, who is Luigi Mangioni?

At 6.

45 in the morning, there are
not a lot of people in Midtown.

So it leaves an opportunity for
someone to spot someone pretty easily.

Somebody that runs a multi-billion dollar
corporation and no one's protecting him,

I think that is just the biggest mistake
I've seen in the corporate security world.

Good morning, everyone.

In Midtown Manhattan early this
morning, 50-year-old Brian Thompson,

the CEO of UnitedHealthcare,
was shot and killed in what appears,

at this early stage of our investigation,
to be a brazen targeted attack.

The flags outside UnitedHealthcare
in Minnetonka are at half-staff today,

as the healthcare insurance giant
mourns the death of one of their own.

I called them the
"Leave it to Beaver" family.

They were always walking in
dressed nicely, good-looking family,

a family I envied and hoped and idolized
because they were just wonderful people.

So outrageous that a businessman
would be gunned down in the street.

I haven't seen anything like that.

Was it a personal vendetta?

Would it be a mob hit?

Did he owe people money?

Once the news broke that the killer
had inscribed those bullet shell casings

with a magic marker
with words delay, deny,

depose, that really
narrowed down the motive.

They're the mantra of the insurance
industry for how you make money.

Deny the claims, defend
them, depose anybody

who tries to continue
their claim against you.

So once we knew that, it was clear
this person was a mission-oriented killer.

We want to begin with the
intense search for the gunman.

A gunman is still on the loose.

A shocking murder getting
national attention tonight.

We have up the reward of
up to $10,000 for information.

We had gotten to a point where we
felt that we needed the public's help,

and that's why we released
the photograph and the video.

We have him from the shooting
scene fleeing back uptown.

We had him in a taxi cab.

We also had a clear vision of his
face at the hostel where he was staying.

Those two clear photos of his face were
what alerted the customers and employees

at that McDonald's in
Altoona, Pennsylvania.

The minute that they
saw him in the corner

eating his hash browns,
they called police.

Earlier this morning in
Altoona, Pennsylvania,

members of the Altoona Police Department
arrested Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old male.

We've recovered five
fingerprints that match our

suspect from the water
bottle that was recovered.

We have two fingerprints
from a energy bar wrapper.

The same fraudulent
New Jersey driver's license

that he presented as
identification at the hostel

was the same identification
that he presented

to the Altoona police
officer at that McDonald's.

As Luigi Mangione is being led into
the courthouse for his first appearance,

it's almost like his world
crumbles in front of us.

Luigi is totally out of touch and
he's in touch with the intelligence

of the American people
and the American spirit.

He's shouting and he's angry we, for the
first time, see raw emotion on his face.

Luigi Mangione, Luigi
Mangione, Luigi Mangione.

Of course the question
is, who is this guy?

Okay, many of you guys are ready, okay.

We are on High Street, which is
the restaurant row of Little Italy.

You leave Little Italy, but
Little Italy never leaves you.

The Mangione family, what more can I say?

I've known the family
for at least 50 years.

They are like probably
one of the most respected,

if not the most respected
family in the Italian community.

With a good looking family, I don't
know about this whole situation here.

It doesn't make sense.

There's something wrong here.

They got a big house on the golf course.

I'm very close to his mom's side.

They're from the same
neighborhood that we are.

Just he looked like a
Mangione and bright and cheerful

and smiley and you know
who he was right away.

Shook my head.

It can't be happening.

They were generous with their money.

They've given a lot to churches.

More than one hospital, GBMC, they would
just do it without expecting anything back.

They are the epitome of the American dream.

He's born into this life of privilege.

Going back through his Reddit postings,

he seems to feel a
little bit guilty about it.

I remember one time as a
young child playing with friends,

fantasizing, we each
sketched our ideal dream home.

Everyone else drew intricate mansions.

I sketched the floor plan
of a small square house.

They thought I was weird.

I thought their mansions
were full of lots of bullshit.

Clearly one of the best
clues that we're going to have

about the psychology and the background
of Luigi Mangione is his social media.

I contracted Lyme when I was 13

and started noticing mild
cognitive declines when I was 15.

My symptoms were very minor at first.

I was able to excel in high school.

He went to high school at the Gilman
High School and that is top notch school.

And obviously he was brilliant.

Luigi Nicholas Mangione.

And well-liked and an
honor student valedictorian.

The class of 2016 is truly defined
by its inventive pioneering mentality

that accompanies a strong
commitment to Gilman tradition.

Throughout his time here at Gilman,

the class of 2016 has
been coming up with new

ideas and challenging
the world around it.

To achieve what he
did in such a prestigious

school that he went to was
a great accomplishment.

I was, we're all so proud of him.

We're all so proud of him.

As I conclude my speech,

I have to remember that a
valedictory, by definition, is a farewell.

It's been an incredible
journey and I simply can't

imagine the last few years
with any other group of guys.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And he also had enough smarts to
get into the University of Pennsylvania.

It's like, you don't have to
brag when that happens.

It speaks for itself.

I'm an undergraduate
pursuing a degree in computer

science and I'm very
interested in bioinformatics.

I knew he was headed toward engineering.

He was good in math.

Both his parents were sort of
smart, both college graduates.

We know from his
writings that even during

college, he still struggled
with maladies and pain.

He had sleeplessness.

Basically, I'm in bed for
eight hours every night and I

wake up feeling unrefreshed
no matter how much sleep I get.

But imagine that in your early 20s,
no matter how much money you have,

suddenly you're experiencing
a lapse in brain cognition.

He refers to a brain fog.

The symptoms
worsened exponentially last

year after my fraternity's
very tame hell week.

I simply wasn't able to recover
from a week of disturbed sleep.

It's absolutely brutal to
have such a life-halting issue,

especially since the issue
itself wears down the critical

logical thinking mind
you'd usually use to tackle it.

I used to play chess daily
against my roommate.

I used it as a metric to see
how the brain fog was improving.

Eventually, I just stopped since I
could never remember any strategy.

He would use the same
moves against me day

after day and I just
wouldn't remember them.

The brain fog becomes almost an obsession
with Luigi Mangione because it's something

that he can't overcome no
matter how wealthy he is.

The people around you probably
won't understand your symptoms.

They certainly don't for me.

As each test comes back negative,

the doctors won't have a
clue what's going on.

I don't know what happened.

There was some type of a change.

Something happened to his mind.

Person possibly shot
in front of the Hilton Hotel.

In criminology, we very
often conduct after a horrific

crime what we call a
psychological or reverse autopsy.

We try to reconstruct the
psychology of our suspect

working backwards so that we
understand the trajectory of events.

I met Luigi, it was latter part of 2022.

And mark.

My name's Dorian Wright and I am
a yoga instructor and a studio owner.

He's just like a normal
happy-go-lucky kind of 26 year old guy.

I don't know what would
motivate someone like

that, you know, to
do something like that.

So I created a co-living
space in Honolulu

during COVID and he
applied to be a member.

He was excited to move to Hawaii.

He wanted to focus on his health
and he was looking to make new friends.

It's incomprehensible
that the person I knew

and was friends with could
assassinate somebody.

When I looked at Luigi, I didn't
see anything out of the ordinary.

He was quite tall and very fit.

Every time he walked in,
yeah, all the women look at him.

So yeah, he was a head turner for the women

and even one of our teachers
matched with him on Tinder.

It appears he suffers
a life-changing injury

during a surfing accident that
caused him a severe back injury

and that's what may
have put him on this path.

Started when I first aggravated my spondy
one and a half years ago after surfing.

Yeah, spondy is a bony defect
in the back part of the spine.

This piece of bone in
the back that's normally

attached to the spine is
not attached to the spine.

My back and hips locked
up after the accident

and my whole lumbar hips
have been out of whack since.

Bladder and genital pain
for the last year, on and off.

Luigi is typical of every
patient in my practice.

You're bounced around the medical system,
nobody's telling you what is going on,

the repeatedly dashing
hope induces depression.

It was completely devastating
as a young athletic person.

Seemingly all I could read
on the internet was that I was

destined to chronic pain and a
desk job for the rest of my life.

It was one of those interesting injuries
where one day he could perhaps be athletic

and do something and then the next
day just immobile and stuck in bed.

I knew he had to go home back
to the East Coast for a surgery.

I had surgery two weeks
ago because I had nerve issues.

He sent me some images
of his x-rays post-surgery there

that just make you cringe three, four
inch screws into somebody's spine.

Surgery was painful
for the first couple of days,

but I was shocked that by day
seven I was on literally zero pain meds.

Obviously will be a while
until I get into rigorous activity,

but it was way less a big
deal than I had anticipated.

In his Reddit discussions
about his own back surgery,

someone else responds
and immediately Luigi starts

to coach this person on
how to get the surgery done.

Keep trying different surgeons.

Tell them you are unable
to work, do your job.

We live in a capitalist society.

I found that the medical industry responds
to these keywords far more urgently

than you describing unbearable pain and
how it's impacting your quality of life.

And this is the first
time in this back and forth

about the back surgery where
Luigi states in social media,

"We live in a
capitalistic society.

" And it's a condemnation.

After a surgery, Luigi seems to
go on a pilgrimage, if you will, to Asia

and enjoy and embrace a
persona of the backpacker.

In high school, I was fascinated
with the idea of living out of a tin can.

Well, not living that way, but
being able to survive in the wild

using nothing more than a survival
kit small enough to fit in an Altoids can.

And it's a good reminder
that we're able to

go long periods without
needing many things.

Remember, he has
always had every advantage,

but now he wants to see
how little he can live on.

I suppose I've always
been hyper-obsessed with

efficiency and I've
never been materialistic.

Those traits have persisted into adulthood.

They are why I became an engineer.

In early 2024, Luigi
Mangione pops up again,

and this time with a review on
Goodreads, of the Ted Kaczynski Manifesto.

Ted Kaczynski was known as the
Unabomber who had created fear for years

by sending packages that
had bombs in them to various

people that he thought were
part of the societal problem.

Luigi wrote a very positive
review of the Kaczynski Manifesto.

It's easy to quickly and thoughtless write
this off as the manifesto of a lunatic.

In order to avoid facing
some of the uncomfortable

problems it identifies, he
was a violent individual,

rightfully imprisoned, who
maimed innocent people.

While these actions tend to
be characterized as those of

a crazy Luddite, however,
they are more accurately seen

as those of an extreme
political revolutionary.

There are gonna be some
people who are gonna say,

why are you even
amplifying this guy's views?

And from a law enforcement perspective,

they're going to wanna
know as much as they can

about the alleged killer,
including why he may have done it.

A take I found
online that I think is

interesting, peaceful
protest is outright ignored.

Economic protest isn't
possible in the current system.

So how long until we recognize
that violence against those

who lead us to destruction
is justified as self-defense?

Violence never solved anything, is a
statement uttered by cowards and predators.

It will be just 10 months
from the time of that review

that he gets a gun and
allegedly takes action.

Luigi reached out to me via email.

He was in Japan at the time, and he
said he was a longtime fan of my work.

So one of the articles that
most resonated with Luigi

was an article that I'd written
called, "Why Everything

is Becoming a Game" in
order to addict people to them.

And he had bought a $200
founding membership to my blog.

So in May, we had a video call.

I remember that as soon as I saw him,

he gave me a big smile
and he was very enthusiastic.

He described Japanese
culture as peak NPC-ville.

NPC is a meme online, which
means non-player character.

And it's a term that's been borrowed
from Dungeons and Dragons.

And it refers to characters in fictional
worlds that are not controlled by players,

but are controlled by a computer
program or by the dungeon master.

He believed people were
increasingly living automated lives.

It was a big concern of his.

I got the sense that maybe he felt
the lack of social connection himself,

that the people around him were
not on the same wavelength as him.

I followed up March, April, May, each month,
just a text message checking in saying,

"Hey, bro, how you
doing? What's going on?

" And didn't hear from him.

He didn't interact with any of
my writing after June the 10th.

So it was the last time he was there.

He seems to have not
interacted with really anybody else.

He seemed to have just sort of
gone dark mostly after that period.

Six months, no one had heard from him.

His friends, his family, his parents.

He isolated himself and there
was no one there to guide him.

And then, you know, your mind goes off.

And in his valedictorian
speech, he thanks the parents.

Thank you for all the time and
love you've put into our lives.

You've instilled values
in us, fed and clothed us,

and simply been there for
us every step of the way.

So fast forward to the age of 25, 26,
he's not communicating with his parents.

He shut them out.

Perhaps in his mind, his family had become
the enemy because they were capitalists.

They were incredibly wealthy.

Cutting off communication with his parents

was the only way to keep these
magical ideas in full float in his brain.

His parents would have
been a reality check.

The shooter's mother
had reported him missing

in San Francisco back
on November 18th of 2024.

In my view, the fact that even his mother

didn't know where he was
would seem to indicate he really

had made a big decision
to prepare for this incident.

To the feds, I'll keep this short because
I do respect what you do for our country.

And police say he even laid out his plans

in a short letter to the feds
and a spiral notebook, both

of which were found on him
at the time he was arrested.

The details are finally coming together.

I'm glad in a way that I've procrastinated

because it allowed me
to learn more about UHC.

The target is insurance.

It checks every box.

It's not necessarily easy to know exactly
where a CEO will be at a particular time.

The fact that this
conference was on the internet

with the dates and the
times allowed him to

plot this in exactly the
way that he had wanted.

This investor conference
is a true windfall.

And most importantly, the
message becomes self-evident.

Seemingly appreciating
that they are letting him

know exactly where Brian
Thompson's going to be.

When I first heard the
news, I was in disbelief.

Couldn't be the same Brian Thompson.

It just couldn't be.

I remember him as a cute little kid.

I'm very good friends with his mother, Pat.

It's a heartbreak.

We are fortunate enough to know him so well

that the memories we
have of him are very joyful.

He was very talented,
very bright individual,

funny, had a sense
of humor, enjoyed life.

We have what's called a Watermelon Day,

our annual celebration where
we serve free watermelon.

We have a parade in the morning and
his mom was known as the ticket lady.

So the Thompsons were well
known for Watermelon Day.

Brian Thompson was also a valedictorian.

He was also an overachiever.

One of his classmates
and his best friend said,

"He's probably the smartest kid in our
class "and the smartest kid I've ever known.

" Went to University of Iowa, did
very well in the business classes.

It's not easy coming from a small town.

I kind of knew he was
bound for great things.

And ultimately made his way to becoming
the CEO of a major healthcare division.

Hi, I'm Brian Thompson,
CEO of UnitedHealthcare.

Brian Thompson did
climb the corporate ladder

very successfully and
relatively quickly at United.

Window interview, take one, mark.

I was in the industry for 20 years
and I'm not the industry's favorite person.

I think as we look over the long term
of this three year period, it's important.

Brian Thompson helped that
company become very, very profitable

and to be a Wall Street
darling for much of his tenure.

United is the largest
company in the US by

market cap behind only
Apple, Google, Walmart.

It has grown and grown,
but has our life expectancy?

No.

We have no indication
that he was ever a client.

Of UnitedHealthcare,
but he does make mention

that it is the fifth largest
corporation in America,

which that's possibly why
he targeted that company.

Once a year, the
executives go to New York City.

They stage this half day program.

It's kind of like a dog and pony show
in which the executives tell investors,

this is what our plans
are for profitable growth.

In the simplest
sense, we're helping to

accelerate the transition
from volume to value.

Just curious in terms of how that
drives your thinking on decent growth.

That's a great question, Scott.

So maybe Brian, if you might like to start.

And Brian Thompson was
always very accomplished,

very well-spoken, very adept
at answering their questions.

Certainly from this vantage point,
I feel very good about the benefits

that we've put in the
marketplace, the pricing, et cetera.

So I feel really good about
where we're positioned.

During the time that
Brian Thompson was CEO of

UnitedHealthcare, a study of
companies and their denial rates

showed that UnitedHealthcare
was at the top,

if not the top in terms
of refusing or denying

coverage for treatments
that patients needed.

And it's an example of what
that company in particular

has been doing to satisfy
Wall Street's profit expectations.

More than 150 people
protested at UnitedHealthcare

headquarters today, nearly
a dozen left in handcuffs.

The organizers want
United to stop denying claims.

I needed a surgery in
January, a hysterectomy.

And roughly two days
before the scheduled surgery,

I received a denial
from UnitedHealthcare.

I was informed that the
reason for the denial was that

the surgery was perceived
as not medically necessary.

It was infuriating, it was frustrating.

We're making it
easier for customers and

consumers to get the
most out of their benefits.

And I was frankly at a loss.

I didn't see a way forward.

My surgeon did fight for me though.

I was able to have it as scheduled,
but I did not know until the day before.

United wouldn't do what they did if there
were consequences for their behavior.

We want the system to
work better for everyone.

The subtext of that, of
what he was saying is that,

yeah, it would be great
if they could figure out

how to make the system
work for all the stakeholders.

It's just simply not possible because if
you are making the system work better

and more smoothly for people
enrolled in your health plans,

that means there's not as much
money left over to reward shareholders.

At the time, there were
reports that Brian Thompson

was under investigation
for possible insider trading.

He reportedly is one of the executives,
and there's several that did share sales

two weeks before it was
revealed that there was an antitrust

investigation launched by
the DOJ into the company.

He and multiple other
UnitedHealth executives

are accused of offloading
something like 15 million

shares of stock before
the probe was announced.

Of course, once that
investigation by the

DOJ was announced,
the stock then plummeted.

The reality is these mafioso
have simply gotten too powerful

and they continue to abuse
our country for immense profit

because the American public has
allowed them to get away with it.

He refers to healthcare
companies as the mafioso.

He is clearly writing this
for public consumption.

So Luigi Mangione
seems to go on a mission.

He has an enemy in his crosshairs.

And it is the insurance industry.

And on the morning of December 4th,

based on everything we
know from law enforcement,

it seems the paths of these two former
valedictorians were about to cross.

I do apologize for any strife
or traumas, but it had to be done.

Frankly, these parasites had it coming.

We know that when he
first arrived in New York City

at the end of November,
he visited that hotel.

He definitely was Casey Meary.

The morning of the incident itself, we know
that he was at the hotel an hour prior.

As of right now, we think he acted alone.

To save you a lengthy investigation,

I state plainly that I
wasn't working with anyone.

You can check serial numbers to verify.

This is all self-funded,
my own ATM withdrawals.

They had over $5,000 worth
of cash on him and $100 bills.

He paid everything in cash.

This was fairly trivial.

Some elementary social engineering,
basic CAD, a lot of patience.

CAD, which is computer-aided design
software, to get a 3D ghost gun printed.

It's a semi-automatic pistol.

It had a suppressor on it that
was also built on a 3D printer.

Every time he fired, the gun would jam,

so he would have to clear
the malfunction to shoot again.

The recovered shell casings that
we had at the scene matched that gun.

My tech is pretty locked
down because I work

in engineering, so
probably not much info there.

He also discusses the, you know, the
contrast on whether or not using a bomb

to make his statement or to
just kill the CEO by himself.

He states that if he used a bomb,

that potentially he
might hurt some innocent

people, and that would
take away from his message.

Obviously, the problem is more
complex, but I do not have space,

and frankly, I do not
pretend to be the most

qualified person to lay
out the full argument.

But many have illuminated
the corruption and greed.

For example, Rosenthal Moore.

Rosenthal is a New York Times
writer who has written extensively

about the maladies of
the insurance industry.

Michael Moore, the very famous documentary
maker with his documentary, "Sicko.

" The intent is to
maximize profits.

You deny more people
healthcare, you got a bonus.

When you don't spend money on
somebody, it's a savings to the company.

It's not an issue of awareness at this
point, but clearly power games at play.

Evidently, I am the first to
face it with such brutal honesty.

There seems to be a tremendous amount
of narcissism going on with Luigi Mangione.

You know, here I am, I am so smart, I
did this for a reason, it had to be done,

and I am the only person smart
enough and brave enough to do it.

I think some people forget
how cold-blooded this was.

This is a guy who was shot in the back.

One might've expected this accused murderer
wanted to say something to Brian Thompson

before killing him,
you know, you dirty rat,

you, you know, you're
responsible for the deaths

of millions, et cetera,
but he didn't do that.

It's the lone wolf theory.

That's what we fear
the most is the lone wolf,

where he doesn't tell
anybody what he's doing,

he travels by himself, he
keeps a very low profile,

and he tracks down his
prey and does his thing.

Luigi Mangione, the man accused of
killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson,

is now in New York City after
waving extradition from Pennsylvania.

Several police officers
and even the mayor of

New York, Eric Adams,
accompanied Mangione.

We're seeing the
radicalization of our young people.

We're seeing our young people believing

that the answer to a
problem is by using violence.

And I think it is the wrong way to go.

Mangione is facing several charges,

including first degree
murder and furtherance of

terrorism and unlawful
possession of a ghost gun.

Charging with the crime of murder in
the first degree and other related charges.

Are you feeling this indictment,
sir, guilty or not guilty?

He leans into the microphone
to say the words clearly.

Not guilty.

Not guilty, with a level of confidence.

Just, he's unperturbed
by the whole process.

Like, this is beneath me.

I'm sorry, yes, I have to show up
and I have to go through all of this.

But time will tell, you will
see this was necessary.

I'm very concerned about my client's
right to a fair trial in this case.

He's being prejudiced by some statements
that are being made by government officials.

He's a young man and he is being
treated like a human ping pong ball,

like some sort of political
fodder, like some sort of spectacle.

He was on display for everyone to see

in the biggest staged perp
walk I've ever seen in my career.

It was absolutely unnecessary.

This has to stop and we're
gonna fight these charges,

whether it's in the state or
federal, to the fullest extent.

Thank you, Your Honor.

It sure seems to me his defense
is not going to be, I didn't do it.

He could try insanity, but
I don't think he's going to.

I think he would refuse.

That would undermine his entire cause.

But as a practical matter, the defense is
likely gonna focus all on jury selection,

trying to find people who
will sympathize or at least

understand why Luigi Mangione
allegedly did what he did.

♪ Free Luigi ♪

♪ Free Luigi ♪

Well, reaction to Thompson's
death has been swift

from people across the
state and the country.

I knew Brian.

Tragic.

Brian was a wonderful person with a big
heart and who lived life to the fullest.

Our hearts were broken and we are
completely devastated by this news.

He touched so many lives.

I just want people
to know that this was a

young boy who worked
hard to be successful.

He could have done a lot of good in
this world and he was taken way too soon.

But Brian Thompson became
completely forgotten as a person.

He became the representative for the
healthcare industry that deserved to die.

Luigi Mangione dropped.

Luigi Mangione got a
stunning amount of support.

Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the
shooting of the CEO of United Healthcare

who's become the hottest
cold-blooded killer in America.

I'm not sure what this says about us.

Luigi Mangione was being
treated as some sort of hero.

From what I know now, I'd say yes, he is.

We'll see what the end outcome is.

You really think that? Absolutely.

Accused of murder and he's a hero?

Absolutely.

I hosted call-in radio show and when I
talked about the fact that it is abhorrent

that people are trying to defend him,
almost every caller called in to yell at me.

I think it is shameful to somehow
blame Brian Thompson for his own murder.

And that is what a lot of people are doing.

♪ CEOs come and go
and want just one thing ♪

♪ The ingredients you got,
bake the cake you get but ♪

People wanted somebody to scapegoat.

They found it in Brian
Thompson because he was a CEO

of the largest health
insurance company in the US.

♪ Ain't no you in UnitedHealth,
ain't no me in the company ♪

And so they naturally saw a young
man like Luigi, who's a very handsome guy.

He's very charismatic.

He allegedly committed his
crime in a very spectacular way.

So of course, there were gonna be
people who would see him as a folk hero.

♪ Hey there, Luigi, you
put bullets into Brian ♪

It was immediately clear to me why
someone might have wanted to kill this guy.

The December 4th legal
committee wanted to give a voice

to all the people and
the anger that they felt.

One $20 donor writes, "NYPD officer here.

We're rooting for you
behind the scenes.

" And then he goes on to
describe a loved one who

passed away after
insurance claims were denied.

One doctor who donated says, quote,

"I applaud Luigi for his
courage, heart, and passion.

" A nurse who donated a hundred dollars
calls Luigi a soldier of the people.

If anyone deserves a
badge of honor, it is you.

I don't think it's possible
to be the CEO of a for-profit

health insurance company and
not have blood on your hands.

I understand the cord that was struck.

Just hearing the difficulties that
others had prompted me to share.

The part about me not
feeling sad is thinking

about the role and the
position and what that did.

I know that the CEO is not the person
who looks at, you know, individual claims.

And yet there's policy there
that had significant consequences

for the lives of thousands
of people and their families.

Sometimes we talk about
the Robin Hood syndrome.

This is off the charts.

Free Luigi! Free Luigi!

People are donating to his defense fund

even though he doesn't
need any extra money.

Young women are writing him
letters and throwing him kisses.

♪ I'm taking a chance
'cause I like you a lot ♪

♪ So I'll give it a shot ♪

♪ Give it all that I got ♪

♪ La dee da dee da ♪

♪ La dee da dee dee ♪

♪ Suddenly ♪

They're trying to make him a hero.

No one is a hero that has to use this
kind of means to get a point across.

The thing is, is people
aren't talking about the U.

S. healthcare system.

People are talking about Luigi.

He's become a meme.

People are focusing on Luigi.

Although he had this hatred of posturing,
it does feel like an act of posturing.

By killing, allegedly again, by
allegedly killing Brian Thompson,

he's not going to fix the
healthcare system in the U.S.

It's just not gonna happen.

I think he was intelligent,

and he was somebody who
genuinely wanted to help people.

And so it's just a great waste.

Nothing good has come of this.