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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,640 PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYS 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,960 SAM: 'Such an array of, like, 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,960 'emotions attached to that period of my life. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,960 'You know, my sense of self-worth, 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,960 'and just very broken on so many... 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,320 '..so many levels. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,960 'Just very untrusting of the world around me after that. 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,960 'I feel... 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,960 '..I feel sad for me. 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,960 'You know? For that young me. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,960 'I missed out on... 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,960 '..a period of life there that should have been... 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,960 '..more joyful. You know, more free spirit.' 16 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:09,160 Yeah, when you're raped, it changes how you see the world around you. 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,960 FEMALE OFFICER: So, you've made an allegation 18 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:15,960 of a serious sexual assault. 19 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,960 Tell me, in as much detail that you can remember, 20 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:20,960 what happened. 21 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:25,960 The... The, erm... 22 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:28,960 What happened in the room? Yeah, tell me what happened. 23 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:30,960 Erm... 24 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,160 'I'm from New Zealand.' 25 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,640 After university, I was, like, gonna go and do some travelling now, 26 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:12,160 I'm gonna get cultured, I'm gonna go have fun. 27 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,480 SHE LAUGHS 28 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,480 'Went to a lot of gigs, 29 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,960 'I tried foods I hadn't tried before, 30 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,960 'and just enjoying meeting people.' SHE LAUGHS 31 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,960 You know, all those different accents together, 32 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,800 it's a fun time. 33 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,960 'London, it's quite an expensive place to live.' 34 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,960 You know, I have some savings there, 35 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,960 but that was chewed through quite quickly. 36 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,960 So I made a profile on a job app. 37 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,960 People can just go there, upload a CV, 38 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 have a little bit of a profile about themselves, 39 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,640 and I was just looking for something like waitressing. 40 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,640 Within that 24 hours, definitely, 41 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:04,320 a message popped up on my phone. 42 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,000 It was somebody offering me work in an escort agency. 43 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,480 You know, I hadn't done escorting work before. 44 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,960 It said, "Paying for sex was prostitution and illegal, 45 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,000 "but paying for somebody's time and company - 46 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,960 "so escorting - wasn't." 47 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,960 You know, "You'll make 500, you know, a night", type of thing. 48 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,960 I just kinda thought, "Oh, that... that sounds easy." 49 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,960 INTERVIEWER: And it wouldn't involve any sex? 50 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 51 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,960 I was under the impression 52 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,960 that it was illegal to pay for sex. 53 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,960 This is the street. 54 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Erm... Is the light on? 55 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Yeah, the very top. See? Yeah. 56 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that room there. 57 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,960 See where those white curtains are pulled? Yeah. 58 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,960 That's his place? The... He's in there. 59 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,960 I don't even wanna know what's going on in that... 60 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,000 room right now. 61 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Wh-What is about to happen? 62 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,960 He'll sit you down and... 63 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,960 Well, he'll ask you things like, "Do you like sex? 64 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,960 "What do you like about sex? Are you a party girl?" 65 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Which, you know, AKA, "Will you take drugs?" 66 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,960 You know, it was just really quick. 67 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Shahin gave me some excuse straightaway 68 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,960 as to why it was in this flat. 69 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,960 And then he requested my passport, 70 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,640 and said he needed to, like, check my right to work. 71 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,960 There was a lot of information coming at me all at one time, 72 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,320 including the request to inspect my body. 73 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,960 And he was, like, quite persistent 74 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,960 that I needed to do that in order to get the job. 75 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,960 Once I went into the room, like, he closed the door straightaway. 76 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,960 Erm, and locked that door. 77 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,960 Everything was just really white. 78 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,000 You know, the curtains were white, the walls were white, 79 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,960 the duvet was white, the cabinets were white. 80 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 I was just in a state of, like, panic. 81 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,960 I remember, like, being fixated on some sort of filming equipment. 82 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Before getting on the bed, I remember him, 83 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,960 you know, like, walking around me. 84 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Like look-looking at my body. 85 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,960 I remember him, like, positioning me, 86 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 like, on the end of the bed at one point... 87 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,960 you know, and, like... pulling my legs up. 88 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,960 He didn't look at my face whilst he was raping me. 89 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,960 I remember, like, turning my head... 90 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Just-Just remember my body just... 91 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,960 SHE GROANS 92 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,960 SHE SCOFFS 93 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,960 As... 94 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Did you feel able to protest? 95 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,960 No. 96 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,960 You know, using my voice... 97 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,960 was... scary 98 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,960 because I didn't know 99 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,960 how he was going to react. 100 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:04,000 After it happened, he told me to clean up and get ready. 101 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,960 And then I would be sent by his driver to this client. 102 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:27,960 SoulMates was the website that Shahin showed me initially. 103 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,960 It had a number of different profiles - 104 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,960 the name, the age. 105 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,960 "I will offer you a great girlfriend experience", things like that. 106 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Much later, I discovered the AdultWorks website. 107 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,160 AdultWorks is a mainstream, 108 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,960 very popular platform 109 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,960 that Shahin was using to... 110 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,960 advertise girls on. 111 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,960 And then I saw my profile for the first time, and I was, like... 112 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,960 "Ew!" 113 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,960 It was just a real shock to see my face attached to a profile 114 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,960 that I didn't consent to, I didn't create this. 115 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,960 And, down the right-hand side, 116 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,960 it had a list of various services. 117 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,960 Basically, selling me for every service available. 118 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Like, watersports, golden shower, lots of different things. 119 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Yeah, including unprotected sex. 120 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,960 It made sense as to why 121 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,960 the clientele had these expectations 122 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,960 of what was going to happen. 123 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,960 That man just knew how to break you down 124 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,960 to a point where you just feel nothing. 125 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,960 'Just a very strong, overwhelming, dominant... 126 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,960 '..person.' 127 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,960 And even when they were, like, moments where I was... 128 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,640 not inside his premises, 129 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,960 I still felt that I had to comply with, like, his requests. 130 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,960 But it wasn't just what he did, 131 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,960 it was all those experiences with clients as well... 132 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,960 ..erm, which break you. 133 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,000 Did that sort of overall behaviour have an impact on why you stayed? 134 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,960 I-I-I stayed, ultimately, as long as I did 135 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,960 because I was scared. I was scared of him. 136 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:04,960 I was scared that there were consequences to me. 137 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,960 I mean, have I broken the law? Am I going to be... 138 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Am I gonna get a conviction now? Am I gonna be deported? 139 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,960 If I have a disagreement with him, am I safe? 140 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,960 This-This man knew where I lived. 141 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,960 He can find me. 142 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,960 SAM, QUIETLY: 'So, this is the front door. 143 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,960 'There's the little bathroom. 144 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,160 'This is the spare... room.' 145 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,960 I got my phone out and just started filming what I could. 146 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,960 I remember, like, building myself up with that because it felt like... 147 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,640 ..a scary thing. 148 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,640 'And this is the office. 149 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,960 'It has, like, nothing... 150 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,960 '..kind of in it, really. 151 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,960 'Weird.' 152 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,960 Who's gonna believe... 153 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,960 me if I tell them this happened to me? 154 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,960 Everything that I filmed in that moment 155 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,960 wasn't substantial evidence. 156 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,960 But it proved I was there. 157 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,800 CAMERA CLICKS 158 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Gabrielle was a girl that I met there. 159 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,320 She'd already been there for days before me. 160 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,960 CAMERA CLICKS Shahin had a real issue 161 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,960 with us speaking to each other 162 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,160 because he didn't want us sharing details 163 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,960 about what he had done and was doing. 164 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,960 We managed to have a cigarette out the window together, 165 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,960 and we had this really short moment. 166 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,960 And I remember, quite quickly in our conversation... 167 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,320 .."Did he rape you?" 168 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,960 Yeah, I remember her telling me, "Yeah, yeah, he's raped me, 169 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,320 "and he's raped me multiple times." 170 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Situations were getting, like, more risky and dangerous. 171 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,960 FOOTSTEPS 172 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,960 It was just abuse after abuse. 173 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,960 I just cracked. 174 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,960 I cracked one day, and I was, "I can't... 175 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,800 "I can't, I just..." I was so tired. 176 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,960 He told me that two men had booked me, 177 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,960 get ready and go. 178 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,960 One man is something, two... no. No, thanks. 179 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,960 I remember telling him, "No, I don't wanna do that." 180 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,960 And the way he looked at me was, like, not normal. 181 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,960 His eyes were so still. 182 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Like, "How dare I challenge him?!" 183 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,000 I remember being, like, really scared in that moment 184 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,960 cos it was the first time I had actually challenged him. 185 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,960 I could hear somebody coming up the stairs. 186 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,160 And I remember telling him, you know, 187 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,960 "If you don't unlock this door, I'll scream." 188 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,960 He unlocked the door and I ran out. 189 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,800 I remember, like, running down the stairs, 190 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,960 out the front door of the house, 191 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,960 turning left and running up the street. 192 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,160 And... went straight to bang on the driver's window. 193 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,960 The driver said to me, 194 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,800 "Shahin's just told me not to let you into the car." 195 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,960 But the driver did let me into the car. 196 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,160 I remember telling him, like, "He's raping girls." 197 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,960 I remember the driver... 198 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,960 ..telling me he knew. 199 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,960 And he drove me all the way home. 200 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,640 I think he was feeling very uneasy himself. 201 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,320 I remember asking him and saying to him, 202 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,480 you know, "The next time you... 203 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,960 "you speak to him, record him." 204 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,960 The, "So?" Hearing that, "So?"... 205 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,960 ..as a response... 206 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,000 I really isolated myself... after that. 207 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,960 I was just existing in a state of fear. 208 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,000 I was hypervigilant, I was... 209 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,960 anxious, I was... I was depressed. 210 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,320 I felt dirty, I felt used, I felt... 211 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,960 I don't know, like, damaged goods or something. 212 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,160 I don't know. 213 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,640 I definitely, at that moment, was, like, 214 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,960 "I want to go to the police, but I am scared to go to the police. 215 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,960 "What are these people gonna think of me?" 216 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,960 "That I've made a decision to be an escort." 217 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,000 And then, "What, you've been raped now? 218 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Like...? 219 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,800 FEMALE OFFICER: So, you've made an allegation 220 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:37,960 of a serious sexual assault, 221 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:43,960 which you state happened in April of this year, 2018. 222 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,960 Tell me, in as much detail that you can remember, 223 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,960 what happened. 224 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,960 The... The, erm... What happened in the room? 225 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,960 Tell me what happened. 226 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Erm... 227 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,960 I did... didn't question why I had to... 228 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,000 had to take, erm, my clothes off for... 229 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,480 a job interview. 230 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,960 But I... I didn't know cos it was my first time, 231 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,960 I didn't know what the-the... 232 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,960 the protocol was cos it was my first time 233 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,960 at an escort agency at the time. Mm-hm. Erm... 234 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,960 In that first interview, I was... 235 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,960 I carried my shame into that room, and... 236 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,960 'it was, like, difficult to just let your guard down 237 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,160 'and be so vulnerable.' 238 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,960 I wanted to, like, be strong for myself. 239 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,960 VOICE BREAKING: Then... 240 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 But I did, I took my clothes off and I just, like... 241 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,960 ..did everything he told me to do. 242 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,960 I had a nice officer there, 243 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,320 she did her best to make it as comfortable as it could be. 244 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,320 And I thought, "OK... they'll do something now." 245 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,960 Almost immediately, after I was out of SoulMates, 246 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 I was, like, "I need to move. This person knows where I live." 247 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,960 I moved to a new place, 248 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,960 and then from that place, I moved into the safe house. 249 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,960 I was able to sort of re-establish a healthier routine, 250 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,960 there was a lot of expertise in-house. 251 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,960 Yeah, I'm very-very grateful for... 252 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,960 ..the support I received from that safe house, 253 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,960 it was just immense. 254 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,960 The police issued me a letter, 255 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,960 which explained that my allegations of rape, 256 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,960 erm, were being dropped. 257 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,960 Erm... 258 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,960 Which was a bit of a... 259 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Yeah... LAUGHS WRYLY 260 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,640 That-That letter really, erm... 261 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,960 Yeah, that was pretty wounding because, erm... 262 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,640 ..just was... wasn't finished, erm, the case wasn't finished. 263 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,320 'The No Further Action letter from the police 264 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,160 'states that there isn't enough evidence 265 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,960 'to take my case forward...' 266 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,320 ..the fact I reported the incident five months after it happened, 267 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,960 so there's no forensic evidence. 268 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,160 'I didn't hand my phone over, 269 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:47,160 'which they state is a significant obstacle to prosecution. 270 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:56,960 'But I handed over copies of all my communications with Shahin.' 271 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,160 I handed over multiple videos, 272 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,960 I handed over photographs that I had taken. 273 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,960 'I handed over everything related to the case.' 274 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,960 And this man continues to run his operation and exploit women, 275 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,640 and the system's OK with that. 276 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Something had to happen. It had to stop. 277 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,960 'The police had just closed my case, 278 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,960 'so I decided to do my own investigation. 279 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,960 'I encountered the SAAFE website 280 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,320 'through typing Shahin's name into Google. 281 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,960 'SAAFE Stands for Support And Advice For Escorts.' 282 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,960 And within their website, 283 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,960 I found multiple chains relating to Shahin, 284 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,960 from 2011 up. 285 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,960 There were girls on there calling out "Shahin rape", 286 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,960 saying this man did rape girls, this is how he operates. 287 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,960 He'll invite you to an interview. 288 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,800 'He'll ask to inspect your body, he needs to check you for diseases. 289 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,960 'Yeah, absolutely wild, and I could see thousands of views.' 290 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,960 And I was just thinking to myself, "Why didn't I read this earlier?" 291 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Girl talks about rape. Yeah. 292 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 They state from 2011. 293 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,480 So, saying, "The manager will attempt 294 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,960 "to have sex with you at the first interview." 295 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960 I reached out to Gabrielle 296 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960 after I had exited, 297 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960 and I was like, "Hey, can we meet straightaway?" 298 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,800 She was like, "Yes. We need to talk." 299 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,160 'And I got to know Gabrielle quite well.' 300 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,960 And that's one review. There is so many. 301 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,960 We met three days after I start. 302 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,320 We were both smokers, so we had to smoke in the kitchen 303 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,800 because that was the only place where we were allowed to smoke. 304 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,800 INTERVIEWER: Do you remember what you said? Something you said to her? 305 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:47,320 I asked her if she had been raped, too. Yeah. 306 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,960 And that was the case. What did she say? 307 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,960 And she said yes. 308 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,960 And when she described it, she said exactly the same things I say. 309 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Same process, same kind of interview. 310 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,640 'I've been abused in the past. 311 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,960 'And I felt in the same way, I felt that you just have to be...' 312 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,640 ..used and abused. 313 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,960 And I felt that bad that... 314 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960 I was about to give up on everything. 315 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,960 How many times in total did he rape you? 316 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,000 Four times. 317 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,960 'The second time was really painful. 318 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,640 'He had this cucumber with the plastic around the cucumber. 319 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,960 'And he told me to spread my legs, remove my knickers. 320 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,960 'Then he penetrate me very, very hard.' 321 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,960 It was so painful, I just wanted to stop. 322 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,000 'After that, he told me, 323 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,160 ' "Wash yourself, you have to go to work." 324 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,800 'So I go to the bathroom, and I was bleeding.' 325 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,960 My vagina was bleeding. 326 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,960 I was in pain. I couldn't work after that. 327 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,640 And he was a bit angry 328 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,800 because I was like, "I can't see anyone." 329 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,000 But at the same time, in my head, I was like, 330 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,960 "If I go somewhere else, I'm going to be safe." 331 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,960 You go somewhere else, you'll be...? Safer. Even if I see someone else. 332 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Not in his apartment? No. 333 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,960 I also met a girl named Hannah who was raped by Shahin. 334 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,000 This was three years before me in 2015. 335 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,960 She reported her rape to the police, 336 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 and, yeah, her case was dropped. 337 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,960 HANNAH: If I think back, I'm like, "Shit, I got raped." 338 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,320 Yeah. A lot of times. 339 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,640 Are you OK? I'm just... OK, yeah. 340 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,960 Yeah. It's just emotional. Yeah, it is. 341 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,000 So, the last night, we got into an argument. 342 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,640 And then he threatened to shoot me. 343 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,960 And he reached under his desk, 344 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,960 and in my head, I went, "Oh, shit. I will die." 345 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960 So I peg it out the door. 346 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,960 I run downstairs, and I decide to call the police. 347 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960 I think, in my head, I hoped he had a gun. 348 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,960 Yeah, so, then, like, he could be stopped. 349 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,960 Police turn up, 350 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,640 and they were useless, the police were useless. 351 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,960 And I think it hurts, like... that nothing was done, 352 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,960 and, like, there was so many opportunities to stop Shahin. 353 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,960 And if they did a proper investigation 354 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960 into my complaints, we would not be sitting here. 355 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,960 'I was checking my profile on AdultWorks quite frequently. 356 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,960 'Shahin didn't take it down. 357 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,960 'He said he would, did not take it down. 358 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,960 'My sense of worth was being crushed 359 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,960 'by seeing my own profile, 360 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,960 'which I have not consented to, develop.' 361 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960 And here I am, sitting in a safe house, 362 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,960 wondering who the hell Shahin is sending out as me. 363 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,960 'On the AdultWorks platform, 364 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,960 'you can go and click on a profile and book a girl.' 365 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,320 So, I decided to book myself off the internet. 366 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,320 I had some assistance from my friend. 367 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,960 I think my friend was like, "This is an absolutely crazy idea." 368 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960 So, I went to a hotel... 369 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,960 ..had my friend make the booking. 370 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,480 SHAHIN: 'Hello?' Hello? 371 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,960 412. 372 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,960 Is she definitely the girl in the pictures? 373 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,960 And is she from New Zealand? 'Yeah.' 374 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 I just had sort of one goal in that moment, 375 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960 which was to get her number. 376 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,960 It wasn't to tell her 377 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,480 I had also worked at the agency 378 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,960 because I didn't know the extent of her own situation with Shahin. 379 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,640 It just felt a bit dangerous. 380 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,960 This girl showed up, and... 381 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,480 she was nothing like me. 382 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960 She didn't have a New Zealand accent, 383 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960 she didn't have light hair. 384 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960 She was a Romanian girl. 385 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,960 I remember her being sort of shy. 386 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,960 I think she was expecting, you know, 387 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,960 that there was a man on the other side of the door. 388 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960 So, I told her, you know, 389 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960 "I'm not looking for sex, I'm not looking for anything like that. 390 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,960 "I just, like, you know, wanna have a chat." 391 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,800 I explained to her that I came from a sex-work background. 392 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,960 The moment I said that, like, she was very open. 393 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,960 And then I had minutes, 394 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960 I had minutes before her phone went off. 395 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,800 And she says, "I have to go." 396 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,960 You know, she was telling me that the agency wasn't good, 397 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,960 and just before she left, I said, "I'm gonna give you my number 398 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,960 "if you wanna contact me, and I'll help you find better work." 399 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,960 And she said, "Thank you," and left. 400 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960 She contacted me, 401 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,960 saying sorry she had to leave, you know, 402 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,960 her boss needed her to go, and I was like, "OK, cool." 403 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,960 I did eventually tell her I used to work for SoulMates, 404 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,960 talked a bit about, like, going to the police. 405 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,960 And it was really funny, cos she told me, she said, 406 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,320 "Oh, Shahin spoke about this girl who went to the police. 407 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,960 "The police didn't do anything, they didn't do anything." You know? 408 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000 And here I am thinking, "He's talking about me." 409 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,960 And he's telling the victims going through his door 410 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,960 that nothing will happen if you go to the police 411 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,960 because that's what happened! 412 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000 'I just went on a real deep dive 413 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,960 'to get as much information as I plausibly could about Shahin.' 414 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,960 I have gone through Shahin's Facebook statuses 415 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,960 all pretty closely. 416 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,800 "They call me Draculine of the West End" 417 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,960 is what he's got under his name. 418 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960 And then his cover photo... 419 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,960 ..is a shot taken outside the property 420 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800 pointing to the window where I was raped. 421 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Why would you pick that photo to put as your cover photo? 422 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320 October 25th, 2014. 423 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,960 "I don't need the right from anybody. I am taking it." 424 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,960 September 14th, 2013. 425 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,960 "House party with ten bombshells." 426 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960 And you know what's going on there. 427 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,960 INTERVIEWER: What is going on? Yeah, it's girls... 428 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,960 It's girls in his flat. Victims. 429 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,960 Shahin is not shy to put himself out on the internet. 430 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,960 He has videos on YouTube. 431 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960 He was an actor and a singer 432 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,800 and a songwriter, all of which weren't true. 433 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,960 There's a video on YouTube... 434 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960 SINGING IN BENGALI 435 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,480 What is he trying to do by making a video like this? 436 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,960 What's his aim? 437 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960 I think he's trying to sell the idea 438 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,160 that he has fame, that he's highly important. 439 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,960 He wants to be famous, I think. 440 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,960 What's it like for you when you see his face again in these videos? 441 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160 For a while, I didn't really wanna, like... 442 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,960 look at his face or, like, think about his face. 443 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Because the image of him is so strong my head, you know, 444 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960 and I can't not unsee his face now. 445 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,960 'I found another document online. 446 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,960 'And to me, it is a public catalogue of...' 447 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,000 ..rape victims of Shahin's. That's what it is to me. 448 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:02,960 This document is a decision from a High Court judge 449 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,960 who refused Shahin's grant for permanent residency in the UK 450 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,960 in light of these alleged sexual assaults. 451 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,960 The document points out 11 non-convictions since 2008. 452 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,960 He threatens to shoot, 453 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,640 stab and kill women, 454 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,960 as well as several alleged rapes. 455 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960 Again, sharing similar accounts. 456 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,960 The judge ruled that he was a pimp, that he had a short temper 457 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,960 and that he was a serious threat to women. 458 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,960 What a disgrace. 459 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:59,960 The authorities let hundreds, if not thousands, of women down. 460 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,960 What is it, 365 days in a year? 461 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,960 He could have multiple victims, 462 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960 in one day, raped. 463 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,800 'Traumatisation after traumatisation. 464 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,960 'And yet, the police closed my case, 465 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960 'saying that there wasn't enough evidence.' 466 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,960 I don't know, I was just kind of like, 467 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,320 "What is wrong with the world?" 468 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,960 KATE ELLIS: Sam wrote to us in 2019. 469 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,320 She wrote us this very interesting letter 470 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,960 which gripped me straightaway. 471 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,960 'And she was speaking on behalf of herself and two other victims. 472 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,960 'So they came into our office.' 473 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,960 And when I first met Sam, I was impressed straightaway. 474 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960 I mean, I've been impressed by her letter. 475 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,960 I had a sense of her as someone who was very determined, 476 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,960 for whom it was never just about her. 477 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,960 It was always her and the other two victims, 478 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,960 and then any other number of unnamed victims out there, 479 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960 she always had that in her mind. 480 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,960 'We asked her to tell us a bit about her story 481 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,960 'and what this man had done, 482 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,960 'and she tried, but she was really, really finding it hard, 483 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960 'at times, to get the words out. 484 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,960 I just remember it being extremely powerful 485 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960 and extremely upsetting to hear her talking about it and to... 486 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960 In a way, the things that she wasn't able to say, 487 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,960 you know, said more than what she was able to say. 488 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,960 'So, from there, it really became about 489 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,960 'challenging the police over this 490 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,960 'and trying to press for the investigation to be reopened.' 491 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960 The first time I was in the safe house, 492 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,960 I stayed a little bit over a year. 493 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:04,960 And then I was in private accommodation with friends. 494 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,960 And then I became an illegal immigrant, I guess. 495 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,960 'My visa ran out, and... 496 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960 'I didn't have the right to work. 497 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,960 'So I couldn't support myself independently.' 498 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,960 I was living below the poverty line. 499 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,960 I'm moving back to the safe house. 500 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,000 Yeah, for... 501 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960 ..an unknown period of time. 502 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,960 INTERVIEWER: And there's no rent to pay? 503 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,960 No. No, no, no. 504 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,800 Do you find there's a lot of rules in the safe house? 505 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,960 Yeah, I don't know. I just... 506 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,960 I have to get my head around it sometimes. Erm... 507 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160 And that's probably because I just don't trust... 508 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,960 I don't trust people all the time. 509 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,320 You had quite a tough first few years of your life. 510 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,960 I mean, yeah. 511 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,640 I was born in Russia, 512 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,960 and I was put in this orphanage 513 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,960 because my mother couldn't look after me, 514 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960 so I was taken away. 515 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,960 And, erm... 516 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,960 ..it made things complicated. 517 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,960 Yeah, it made things really complicated, but, yeah... 518 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,960 SHE LAUGHS WRYLY It is what it is. 519 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,960 Everyone's, you know, been dished something. 520 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,960 In life? Yeah, yeah. 521 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,960 I knew that there is a process in place to challenge decisions. 522 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,800 And anyone can do it. It's an internal complaints process. 523 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,000 'You can seek a review by a more senior officer.' 524 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,960 And actually, by the time we got to the meeting 525 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,960 where they were supposed to explain why they dropped the case, 526 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,960 they had done a bit of a U-turn and decided they should reopen it. 527 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960 'To learn from Kate that... 528 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,960 'that the police were going to be reopening my case...' 529 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,960 I mean, obviously, it was good news. 530 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,960 But also, I was thinking, "What's next? Who knows!" 531 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,960 You know? Like, I don't know what's next at this point. 532 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,960 When Kate informed me 533 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,960 that the police had lost my VRI, video-recorded interview... 534 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,960 SHE EXHALES DEEPLY 535 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,960 'So, there was a string of emails that were sent to my lawyer.' 536 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,960 It's a conversation between multiple officers on this case 537 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,960 looking for solutions for that lost evidence. 538 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,960 I'm just gonna read a little section out of here. 539 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,960 "In 2018, matters were presented to the CPS as rape. 540 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,000 "The three ABE masters are now missing. 541 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,960 "There are significant gaps in the case. 542 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,960 "Sad for the victims, but not necessarily our job to recover. 543 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,960 "So, in my view, as before, 544 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,960 "keep away from the 2018 for now and focus on the current. 545 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,960 "We have some cracking new..." In capital letters. 546 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,960 "..witnesses, and if all goes to plan, 547 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960 "there will be one or two or three girls 548 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960 "working with him when he is arrested. 549 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,160 "This will be recent evidence of his enterprise." 550 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,960 It just makes you feel shit, doesn't it? 551 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960 It's just trying to keep us on in case, 552 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,960 and that's what they say here, too. 553 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,960 Just try and keep us in case they need us. 554 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,640 MALE OFFICER: Obviously, you know that we're here to talk about 555 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,160 an allegation you made sort of mid-2018. 556 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,960 So, what was the expectation of you when you went to these clients? 557 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,960 I was expressing... 558 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,960 I was expressing to him in his hotel room that I wasn't OK. 559 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,960 TEARFULLY: But he, erm... 560 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,960 Yeah. 561 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,960 When you say you weren't OK, just describe that a bit, please. 562 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,160 SHE SNIFFLES Erm... 563 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,960 I couldn't... 564 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,960 Erm... It was just... 565 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,320 ..difficult. 566 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,960 Difficult to... 567 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,960 ..say certain things sometimes to these people 568 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,160 because they already had their own expectations, 569 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,480 because Shahin had already said to them that that was OK anyways 570 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,960 to do whatever the fuck you want with us. 571 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,960 We're outside the police station now. 572 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,960 I've returned to do another VI. 573 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,800 INTERVIEWER: VI? Yeah, video interview. 574 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,160 This is my third time. 575 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,960 Just a few weeks back, 576 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,960 I was here for almost six hours completing an interview, 577 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,320 and the disk didn't work when they went to check it. 578 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,960 It was broken. Erm... 579 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,960 So, yeah, this is why I'm here today. 580 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,320 Last time, I walked out and all these boxes in my head, 581 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:03,160 erm, yeah, the lids are sort of just left ajar, 582 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,960 and it sort of left me... 583 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,960 ..exposed. I felt really exposed. 584 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,960 And it's taking my memory back 585 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,480 into a time where I was quite helpless. 586 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,960 I don't like that feeling. 587 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,960 Right, so the time by my phone is 10:56. 588 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,000 It's Monday 14th December, 2020. 589 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,640 I only propose to cover what we're missing. 590 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,960 So, I heard from Max yesterday, Officer Max, 591 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,960 and Shahin has now been charged 592 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,800 with rape in connection with the allegations. 593 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,960 Really? Yeah. So he's facing five charges... 594 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,960 Wow. ..in connection with your account. 595 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,960 Two charges of rape, two charges of sexual assault by penetration... 596 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,800 Yeah. ..and one charge of controlling prostitution for gain. 597 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,960 That's so cool. That's really cool. That feels like a... 598 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,960 Yeah, a big weight off that push. 599 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960 Cool! I mean, I think well done, you. 600 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,320 Honestly, because this wouldn't have happened without you. 601 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,800 Yeah, that's crazy. OK, after all that. 602 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,960 Do you wanna know how many charges he's facing in total? 603 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,960 Yeah. 40. 604 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,960 40? SHE EXHALES 605 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,960 So, from that day where you went to the police, 606 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,960 and then you get told there's nothing here... 607 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,000 Yeah. ..to 40 charges. 608 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,960 You never know what's gonna happen, but I'm tentatively optimistic 609 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,960 that it's gonna be hard for him to make all that go away. 610 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,960 That's really good news. I feel like it's... 611 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960 That's the best news, actually. That's really cool. 612 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,960 ABBEY: Yo! Hi! 613 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960 THEY CHUCKLE Good news. 614 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,960 Yeah? Yeah. 615 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,960 Yeah, you look like you had good news. 616 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,960 Yeah, really good news. The, erm.... 617 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,000 CPS has approved the rape charge, so... No! 618 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960 Yeah! It's sick. It's sick. Oh, my God! 619 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960 It's sick. It's good. Oh, that's such good news. 620 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,480 It's good, eh? Really pleased about this. 621 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,640 Do you believe in anything like, erm... 622 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,960 a Loch Ness Monster or, like, a yeti? 623 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,640 Not, really. I don't think so. 624 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,960 I'd like to see it. 625 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,640 'Abbey's my partner. 626 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,960 'She comes from a very different background from myself.' 627 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,960 You know, does Santa Claus count? 628 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,960 CHUCKLING: What? You know? 629 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,960 And we're both pretty outdoorsy people, so... 630 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,960 it's nice to go away and do something 631 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,960 both, like, together, and... 632 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,960 Yeah, definitely. SAM CHUCKLES 633 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,160 Where are you looking? There. That, see? 634 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,480 Oh, wow. A whole host of them. 635 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,960 LAUGHING: What? 636 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960 It's been quite special 637 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,960 that she's been able to kind of handle all this. 638 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,960 'It's a personal thing, and it's not always an easy thing.' 639 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:50,000 It's nice to have that support, and, you know... 640 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,960 the amount of times I've gone, "Agh!" You know, just... 641 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,640 ..just get so upset by something, really, you know? 642 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,960 'Yeah, she helps bring me back down, 643 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,960 'and she'll remind me why I'm still here, and... 644 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,960 'the importance of this case.' 645 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,960 And she'll remind me the impact my voice has 646 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,160 so that I get the justice I deserve 647 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,960 as well as the justice for many others 648 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,960 who haven't been able to voice themselves, 649 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,960 necessarily, so easily. 650 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,960 'Because, sometimes, you do get so overwhelmed by things.' 651 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,480 'We are outside Tottenham Police Station. 652 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,960 'So that I can view 653 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960 'what do they say, an ID parade.' 654 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,800 Was it easy to recognise him? 655 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,960 Yeah. 656 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,960 Yeah, that's the feeling when it first comes up. 657 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,960 Yeah. 658 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960 Just swallow... 659 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,960 SHE LAUGHS 660 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,960 The police had me sign some document. 661 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,320 And I didn't like the way it was written 662 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,960 that "I had sex" with this man. 663 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,960 So I corrected it. 664 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960 Er... 665 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960 that I was raped by this man. 666 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,960 You've just completely 667 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960 disregarded 668 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640 why I'm here in the first place. 669 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,960 SHE LAUGHS 670 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,160 Not hugely psyched to be here today. 671 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,960 Why not? 672 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,960 Er... 673 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,000 I feel like I'm having to... 674 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,960 sort of declare my innocence... 675 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,960 ..over communications I've had with another victim. 676 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,960 Because... 677 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,960 of this idea of collusion. 678 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,960 I think the police have been conscious 679 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960 that one line of attack that the defence might use 680 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,960 is because Sam was such a... rock, actually, 681 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,960 for the other two victims who reported him in 2018, 682 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,320 that that almost might somehow undermine her credibility. 683 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,960 I think the suggestion was that in any case 684 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,960 where you've got a number of victims telling a similar story, 685 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,960 on one level, clearly that supports the prosecution case, 686 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,960 that suggests they are all telling the truth. 687 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,960 But on another level, 688 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,960 it can allow the defence to try and suggest 689 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,640 that there's been collusion, 690 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,480 or that the women have... 691 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,960 discussed their accounts with each other. 692 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,960 Hi. 693 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,960 You all right? Yeah. 694 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,960 Yeah. 695 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,960 Yeah. 696 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,160 Fun times. 697 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,960 Are you feeling nervous? Yeah, a little bit. 698 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,960 I don't really feel like being here 699 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,960 for this particular interview. Yeah. 700 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,960 Yeah. Yeah. 701 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,960 I dunno, I just feel... 702 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,960 Oh, yeah. 703 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,960 I don't like having to prove my own innocence, 704 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,640 I don't like that feeling. 705 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,960 No, I know. 706 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,160 I do think that the police and CPS at the moment 707 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,960 see you as a credible victim. 708 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,960 It's really hard for sexual offence cases 709 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,960 to make it to trial, they so often don't. 710 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,960 That you are one of the rare ones 711 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,640 where they obviously think they can prove the case. 712 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,960 Yeah. 713 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,960 So, I would remember that, at the same time, hold onto that. 714 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,960 Over it. 715 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960 I hope that they've made you feel like that. 716 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,960 I'm really sorry. 717 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960 Just over it. 718 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,960 Yeah. 719 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,960 SHE SCOFFS 720 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,960 Hopefully, this is the last time I have to come back here. 721 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,960 Yeah. Yeah. 722 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,960 Yeah, so I met her back in 2018... 723 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,960 erm... 724 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,960 when I ordered myself off the internet. 725 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,960 Have you ever colluded with her? 726 00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,480 No. 727 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,960 Around making any allegations? 728 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,960 No. Not... 729 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,960 I mean, I've shared a hatred with her. 730 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,320 If that's collusion. 731 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,960 OK. 732 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,960 But have you... 733 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,960 For instance, have you told her 734 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,960 what to say to anybody or anything of that nature? 735 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960 I don't think so, I've just told her 736 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960 where she can get, you know, support. 737 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,960 What was the purpose of the... 738 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,960 contact, 739 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,960 the first time you met her to, let's say, today? 740 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,960 Yeah. 741 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,160 The first... The first... 742 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,960 The first time was to see who was behind my profile. 743 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,960 And, erm... 744 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,960 the second time was to see if she was OK. 745 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,960 Yeah. 746 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,320 OK, so the purpose of your continued... 747 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,960 I just wanted to check she was OK and that she had help. 748 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,960 I wanted to check she was OK, that she had help, 749 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,640 and if she did have the appropriate help, 750 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,960 perhaps she would be more... more inclined 751 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,960 to share deeper experiences, 752 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,960 that may have actually in turn been helpful. 753 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,960 You know, because she was in a lot of pain. 754 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,960 Yeah. 755 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,960 I don't feel like I did a wrong thing by contacting her. 756 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,960 I shouldn't be made to feel like I've done a wrong thing. 757 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,960 I shouldn't be made to feel like 758 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,960 caring is the wrong thing to do here. 759 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,320 How long have you known BLEEP? 760 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,960 Since April 2018. 761 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,960 OK, thank you. 762 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,960 Are you in regular contact? 763 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,320 Er... OK, I probably... 764 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,960 We go through waves. 765 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,960 How do you know her, like, as a person? 766 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,960 What's your... I only know her through... 767 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,960 ..the shared... 768 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,960 SoulMates, I know her through SoulMates. 769 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:11,960 'It made me scared to speak to... 770 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,960 '..particularly any of the other girls. 771 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960 'Dunno, the fear that came out of like... 772 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,480 'am I going to damage this case 773 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,960 'by speaking to somebody?' 774 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,320 Am I not allowed to? 775 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,960 Like, I just was questioning who I could and couldn't 776 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,480 even speak to, including my own lawyer. 777 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,960 It put me in a bit of a position where I felt like my support network 778 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960 was a little bit fragile. 779 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960 I was a bit fragile. 780 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,960 SIREN 781 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,960 What did this letter or email from the police say? 782 00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,960 They said, 783 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,960 "It appears that the existence of the film-maker 784 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,960 "has been deliberately hidden for a good period of time, 785 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960 "and I have now been tasking 786 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,960 "with reviewing all the material he has. 787 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,960 "I will need to take a further statement 788 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,960 "about that also." 789 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,640 So the police are saying that you deliberately 790 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,960 withheld the fact that you were making this film with me? 791 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,800 Pfft. Right? 792 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:28,960 Yeah. 793 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,960 But also we look back at 2019, 794 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,960 when you and I first started filming. 795 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,960 The police investigation seemed to be going nowhere. 796 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,960 And then they closed your case. Yeah. 797 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,960 Just coming at me 798 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,960 and asking me to hand over... 799 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,960 ..er... 800 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,000 ..something that has felt quite rewarding 801 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,960 in all of this chaos, actually. 802 00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,960 But at the end of the day, they didn't... 803 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,960 They needed to listen to me better. 804 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,960 They needed to believe... everything out of my mouth, 805 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,320 everything that was out of anybody else's mouth. 806 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,640 And they think... 807 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,960 ..you know... 808 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,960 ..there was, like, a right... 809 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,960 Invasion of my privacy, of my own rights... 810 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,960 ..to do something for me. 811 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,960 You know. And... 812 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,320 I'm allowed to... share my story. 813 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,960 Because... 814 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,960 they're not sharing my story. 815 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,800 They're sharing theirs. 816 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,960 So, I've just come out of the court. 817 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,960 There's no resolution yet. 818 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,480 But I did find out that the main trial against Shahin 819 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,960 has been delayed for maybe as much as a year. 820 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,320 And that's gonna be tough news for Sam. 821 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,960 At the end of the day, the judge deferred a decision. 822 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,960 Yeah. 823 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,960 It transpired in court that there was a hearing 824 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,960 the day before... and that... 825 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,640 ..about vacating the case, 826 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,960 or putting the main case back. 827 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:40,960 Really? 828 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,960 And the court has agreed to delay it. 829 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,480 Why? 830 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,640 What? Sorry, what? 831 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,960 They're going to delay the trial now? 832 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,480 That's... That... They are going to delay it again? 833 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,960 Why? Well, it's... 834 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,960 It's hard for me to know because this is the first thing I heard 835 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,960 when I got into the court. 836 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,960 And this is only me picking between the words that the judge said, so... 837 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,960 I've got no other knowledge, but the judge did say this, 838 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,640 so I think it's pretty much... reliable. 839 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,960 The trial was now postponed. 840 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,320 Postponed a year. 841 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,160 That's a long time to wait. 842 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,960 And some of the other victims dropped off 843 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,960 from supporting the prosecution. 844 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,960 Everything was a bit harder. 845 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,640 Hi. Hey. Hey. How are you? 846 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,960 Drop it like it's hot. OK. 847 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,960 The police are not getting access to any of our footage. 848 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,640 Really? 849 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,960 Because of the judge's ruling. 850 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,960 Really? Cool. I was... I was just expecting... 851 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,960 I was expecting some bad news, Richard, 852 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,960 I honestly was expecting some... 853 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,960 That's really awesome. Yeah. 854 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,960 I'm just gonna bring you here. 855 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,000 It's the first time you got a new friend? 856 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,960 Yeah. This is Charlie. 857 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,960 He's a happy pup. He's ten weeks today. 858 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,960 I've wanted a dog for a really long time. 859 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,960 And I think, like, it's, trial is not too far away, 860 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,960 I just think, it's really good for my mental health. 861 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,960 Like, I've had, like, sort of waves of anxiety at times. 862 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,480 Erm... 863 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,320 And he's certainly helping with that. 864 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,960 So... yeah, I think he's... 865 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,960 ..bringing lots of love. 866 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,960 Bringing lots of love, aren't we? 867 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,960 Sam, I think, will be a central witness. 868 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,960 I mean, she's been told, specifically, 869 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,960 by the officer in the case, that her testimony 870 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,960 is considered particularly powerful. 871 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,960 The interviews she's given. 872 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,960 And the defence are gonna come after her. 873 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,000 'Mind the gap between the train and the platform.' 874 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,960 It always comes down to the credibility of the victim. 875 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,960 You know, mostly these cases will be one person's word against another. 876 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,960 I don't really know how I'm feeling other than nervous. 877 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,960 So... 878 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,960 The defence will be playing, I think, 879 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,960 on myths and stereotypes about how a victim will behave. 880 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,960 How's my regrowth looking? 881 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,960 Is it ten out of ten? 882 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,960 And the fact that there was a delay in reporting. 883 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,960 Even though it's not a long gap in the grand scheme of things. 884 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,000 I fear that there are probably people 885 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,960 who struggle to take the same approach to consent, 886 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,960 when you're talking about someone who turned up for a job 887 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,320 at something that was advertising itself 888 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,960 as an escort agency. 889 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,320 That they wanted or expected to have sex. 890 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,800 But, of course, that's not how consent works. 891 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,960 You don't sign away your right to say no 892 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,320 when you turn up for a sex-work job, 893 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,960 even if that is what Sam had been expecting. 894 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,960 I think Sam is gonna find it difficult 895 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,960 even to be questioned about the offence itself. 896 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,800 I mean, the way that the defence will present in cross-examination 897 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,000 is that they will put their case to her. 898 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,800 So, even when she's saying, "No, it wasn't like that, 899 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,960 "it didn't happen like that," 900 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,960 they will put to her that she is a liar. 901 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,960 Been, what, four years, eight months since events took place. 902 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,960 I think that's right. 903 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,160 Yeah. So it's quite a long time 904 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,960 leading up to this particular moment. 905 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,960 It sort of feels kinda surreal. 906 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,960 How do you feel about the possibility 907 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,960 of seeing him face-to-face again? 908 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,960 I won't see him face-to-face cos I'll have a screen. 909 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,960 He can't see me, I can't see him. 910 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,960 I wouldn't want to look at him. 911 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,960 I wouldn't want to acknowledge him. 912 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,960 It's kind of a weird and uncomfortable thought 913 01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:02,960 to think if he is there, you know... 914 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,160 Yeah, I dunno, just... 915 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,960 Yeah. Yeah, that's... 916 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,960 That's... That's where I'm at with this right now. 917 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,800 Yeah, I gave it my best shot. 918 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,800 I gave it my best shot. 919 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,960 I found parts of that really, really challenging and... 920 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,960 ..being under pressure and trying to respond was just... 921 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,640 Yeah, it felt quite intense. 922 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,960 I feel like if I could go back, 923 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,960 there's things I would have said now... 924 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,960 erm... 925 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000 Yeah, I didn't like some of that at all. 926 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,960 But... I got through it. 927 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,960 Yeah, I got through it, so... 928 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,960 Really? 929 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,960 Really! 930 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,960 Yay! 931 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,960 Oh, yes, yes! 932 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,960 Cool. 933 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,000 Yeah. 934 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,960 All five, all five! 935 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,800 All five counts, babe. 936 01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,960 It's nice to get to the finish line and there be a positive outcome. 937 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,960 Being believed makes me feel validated. 938 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,960 It has helped me let go 939 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,960 of some of the deeper feelings. 940 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,800 Yeah, I like to think I've done OK. 941 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,960 Despite everything, I've done OK. I've come out the other end 942 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,960 and I'm on my feet moving forward. 943 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,640 And I think the main thing is that he's now off the streets. 944 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,960 He's no longer a hazard. 945 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,960 He is no longer a threat. 946 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,960 So, I'm safe. 947 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,960 And everyone else is safe from him, too. 948 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:45,960 I think that's... 949 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,960 ..the biggest thing. 950 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 68821

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