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SAM: 'Such an array of, like,
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'emotions attached to
that period of my life.
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'You know, my sense of self-worth,
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'and just very broken
on so many...
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'..so many levels.
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'Just very untrusting of
the world around me after that.
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'I feel...
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'..I feel sad for me.
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'You know? For that young me.
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'I missed out on...
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'..a period of life there
that should have been...
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'..more joyful.
You know, more free spirit.'
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Yeah, when you're raped, it changes
how you see the world around you.
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FEMALE OFFICER:
So, you've made an allegation
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of a serious sexual assault.
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Tell me, in as much detail
that you can remember,
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what happened.
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The... The, erm...
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What happened in the room?
Yeah, tell me what happened.
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Erm...
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'I'm from New Zealand.'
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After university, I was, like,
gonna go and do some travelling now,
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I'm gonna get cultured,
I'm gonna go have fun.
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SHE LAUGHS
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'Went to a lot of gigs,
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'I tried foods
I hadn't tried before,
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'and just enjoying meeting people.'
SHE LAUGHS
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You know, all those
different accents together,
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it's a fun time.
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'London, it's quite
an expensive place to live.'
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You know, I have some savings there,
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but that was chewed through
quite quickly.
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So I made a profile on a job app.
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People can just go there,
upload a CV,
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have a little bit of a profile
about themselves,
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and I was just looking for
something like waitressing.
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Within that 24 hours, definitely,
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a message popped up on my phone.
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It was somebody offering me work
in an escort agency.
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You know,
I hadn't done escorting work before.
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It said, "Paying for sex
was prostitution and illegal,
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"but paying for somebody's time
and company -
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"so escorting - wasn't."
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You know, "You'll make 500,
you know, a night", type of thing.
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I just kinda thought,
"Oh, that... that sounds easy."
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INTERVIEWER:
And it wouldn't involve any sex?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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I was under the impression
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that it was illegal to pay for sex.
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This is the street.
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Erm...
Is the light on?
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Yeah, the very top. See? Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that room there.
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See where those white curtains
are pulled? Yeah.
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That's his place?
The... He's in there.
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I don't even wanna know
what's going on in that...
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room right now.
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Wh-What is about to happen?
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He'll sit you down and...
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Well, he'll ask you things like,
"Do you like sex?
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"What do you like about sex?
Are you a party girl?"
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Which, you know,
AKA, "Will you take drugs?"
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You know, it was just really quick.
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Shahin gave me some excuse
straightaway
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as to why it was in this flat.
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And then he requested my passport,
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and said he needed to, like,
check my right to work.
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There was a lot of information
coming at me all at one time,
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including the request
to inspect my body.
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And he was, like, quite persistent
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that I needed to do that
in order to get the job.
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Once I went into the room, like,
he closed the door straightaway.
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Erm, and locked that door.
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Everything was just really white.
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You know, the curtains were white,
the walls were white,
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the duvet was white,
the cabinets were white.
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I was just in a state of,
like, panic.
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I remember, like, being fixated
on some sort of filming equipment.
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Before getting on the bed,
I remember him,
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you know, like, walking around me.
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Like look-looking at my body.
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I remember him, like,
positioning me,
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like, on the end of the bed
at one point...
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you know, and, like...
pulling my legs up.
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He didn't look at my face
whilst he was raping me.
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I remember, like, turning my head...
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Just-Just remember my body just...
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SHE GROANS
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SHE SCOFFS
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As...
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Did you feel able to protest?
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No.
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You know, using my voice...
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was... scary
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because I didn't know
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how he was going to react.
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After it happened, he told me
to clean up and get ready.
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And then I would be
sent by his driver to this client.
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SoulMates was the website
that Shahin showed me initially.
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It had
a number of different profiles -
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the name, the age.
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"I will offer you a great girlfriend
experience", things like that.
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Much later, I discovered
the AdultWorks website.
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AdultWorks is a mainstream,
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very popular platform
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that Shahin was using to...
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advertise girls on.
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And then I saw my profile for
the first time, and I was, like...
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"Ew!"
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It was just a real shock
to see my face attached to a profile
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that I didn't consent to,
I didn't create this.
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And, down the right-hand side,
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it had a list of various services.
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Basically, selling me
for every service available.
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Like, watersports, golden shower,
lots of different things.
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Yeah, including unprotected sex.
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It made sense as to why
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the clientele had these expectations
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of what was going to happen.
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That man just knew
how to break you down
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to a point
where you just feel nothing.
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'Just a very strong,
overwhelming, dominant...
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'..person.'
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And even when they were, like,
moments where I was...
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not inside his premises,
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I still felt that I had to
comply with, like, his requests.
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But it wasn't just what he did,
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it was all those experiences
with clients as well...
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..erm, which break you.
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Did that sort of overall behaviour
have an impact on why you stayed?
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I-I-I stayed, ultimately,
as long as I did
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because I was scared.
I was scared of him.
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I was scared
that there were consequences to me.
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I mean, have I broken the law?
Am I going to be...
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Am I gonna get a conviction now?
Am I gonna be deported?
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If I have a disagreement with him,
am I safe?
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This-This man knew where I lived.
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He can find me.
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SAM, QUIETLY:
'So, this is the front door.
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'There's the little bathroom.
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'This is the spare... room.'
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I got my phone out and just
started filming what I could.
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I remember, like, building myself up
with that because it felt like...
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..a scary thing.
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'And this is the office.
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'It has, like, nothing...
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'..kind of in it, really.
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'Weird.'
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Who's gonna believe...
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me if I tell them
this happened to me?
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Everything that I filmed
in that moment
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wasn't substantial evidence.
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But it proved I was there.
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CAMERA CLICKS
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Gabrielle
was a girl that I met there.
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She'd already been there
for days before me.
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CAMERA CLICKS
Shahin had a real issue
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with us speaking to each other
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because he didn't want us
sharing details
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about what he had done
and was doing.
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We managed to have a cigarette
out the window together,
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and we had this really
short moment.
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And I remember,
quite quickly in our conversation...
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.."Did he rape you?"
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Yeah, I remember her telling me,
"Yeah, yeah, he's raped me,
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"and he's raped me multiple times."
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Situations were getting, like,
more risky and dangerous.
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FOOTSTEPS
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It was just abuse after abuse.
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I just cracked.
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I cracked one day,
and I was, "I can't...
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"I can't, I just..."
I was so tired.
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He told me
that two men had booked me,
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get ready and go.
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One man is something, two... no.
No, thanks.
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I remember telling him,
"No, I don't wanna do that."
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And the way he looked at me
was, like, not normal.
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His eyes were so still.
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Like, "How dare I challenge him?!"
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I remember being, like,
really scared in that moment
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cos it was the first time
I had actually challenged him.
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I could hear somebody
coming up the stairs.
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And I remember telling him,
you know,
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"If you don't unlock this door,
I'll scream."
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He unlocked the door and I ran out.
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I remember, like,
running down the stairs,
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out the front door of the house,
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turning left
and running up the street.
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And... went straight to
bang on the driver's window.
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The driver said to me,
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"Shahin's just told me
not to let you into the car."
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But the driver did let me
into the car.
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I remember telling him, like,
"He's raping girls."
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I remember the driver...
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..telling me he knew.
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And he drove me all the way home.
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I think he was feeling
very uneasy himself.
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I remember asking him
and saying to him,
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you know, "The next time you...
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"you speak to him, record him."
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The, "So?" Hearing that, "So?"...
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..as a response...
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I really isolated myself...
after that.
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I was just existing
in a state of fear.
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I was hypervigilant, I was...
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anxious, I was...
I was depressed.
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I felt dirty, I felt used, I felt...
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I don't know,
like, damaged goods or something.
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I don't know.
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I definitely, at that moment,
was, like,
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"I want to go to the police,
but I am scared to go to the police.
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"What are these people
gonna think of me?"
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"That I've made a decision
to be an escort."
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And then,
"What, you've been raped now?
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Like...?
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FEMALE OFFICER:
So, you've made an allegation
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of a serious sexual assault,
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which you state happened
in April of this year, 2018.
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Tell me, in as much detail
that you can remember,
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what happened.
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The... The, erm...
What happened in the room?
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Tell me what happened.
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Erm...
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I did... didn't question
why I had to...
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had to take, erm,
my clothes off for...
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a job interview.
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But I... I didn't know
cos it was my first time,
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I didn't know what the-the...
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the protocol was
cos it was my first time
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at an escort agency at the time.
Mm-hm. Erm...
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In that first interview, I was...
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I carried my shame into that room,
and...
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'it was, like, difficult
to just let your guard down
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'and be so vulnerable.'
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I wanted to, like,
be strong for myself.
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VOICE BREAKING: Then...
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But I did, I took my clothes off
and I just, like...
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..did everything he told me to do.
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I had a nice officer there,
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she did her best to make it
as comfortable as it could be.
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And I thought, "OK...
they'll do something now."
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Almost immediately,
after I was out of SoulMates,
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I was, like, "I need to move.
This person knows where I live."
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I moved to a new place,
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and then from that place,
I moved into the safe house.
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I was able to sort of re-establish
a healthier routine,
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there was a lot of expertise
in-house.
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Yeah, I'm very-very grateful for...
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..the support I received
from that safe house,
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it was just immense.
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The police issued me a letter,
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which explained that
my allegations of rape,
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erm, were being dropped.
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Erm...
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Which was a bit of a...
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Yeah...
LAUGHS WRYLY
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That-That letter really, erm...
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Yeah, that was pretty wounding
because, erm...
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..just was... wasn't finished, erm,
the case wasn't finished.
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'The No Further Action letter
from the police
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'states that
there isn't enough evidence
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'to take my case forward...'
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..the fact I reported the incident
five months after it happened,
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so there's no forensic evidence.
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'I didn't hand my phone over,
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'which they state is a significant
obstacle to prosecution.
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'But I handed over copies of
all my communications with Shahin.'
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I handed over multiple videos,
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I handed over photographs
that I had taken.
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'I handed over everything
related to the case.'
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And this man continues to run
his operation and exploit women,
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and the system's OK with that.
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Something had to happen.
It had to stop.
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'The police had just closed my case,
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'so I decided to do
my own investigation.
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'I encountered the SAAFE website
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'through typing Shahin's name
into Google.
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'SAAFE Stands for
Support And Advice For Escorts.'
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And within their website,
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I found multiple chains
relating to Shahin,
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from 2011 up.
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There were girls on there
calling out "Shahin rape",
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saying this man did rape girls,
this is how he operates.
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He'll invite you to an interview.
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'He'll ask to inspect your body,
he needs to check you for diseases.
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'Yeah, absolutely wild,
and I could see thousands of views.'
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And I was just thinking to myself,
"Why didn't I read this earlier?"
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Girl talks about rape.
Yeah.
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They state from 2011.
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So, saying,
"The manager will attempt
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"to have sex with you
at the first interview."
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I reached out to Gabrielle
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after I had exited,
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and I was like,
"Hey, can we meet straightaway?"
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She was like,
"Yes. We need to talk."
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'And I got to know Gabrielle
quite well.'
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And that's one review.
There is so many.
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We met three days after I start.
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We were both smokers,
so we had to smoke in the kitchen
303
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because that was the only place
where we were allowed to smoke.
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INTERVIEWER: Do you remember what
you said? Something you said to her?
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I asked her
if she had been raped, too. Yeah.
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And that was the case.
What did she say?
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And she said yes.
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And when she described it, she said
exactly the same things I say.
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Same process,
same kind of interview.
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'I've been abused in the past.
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'And I felt in the same way,
I felt that you just have to be...'
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..used and abused.
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And I felt that bad that...
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I was about to give up
on everything.
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How many times in total
did he rape you?
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Four times.
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'The second time was really painful.
318
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'He had this cucumber with
the plastic around the cucumber.
319
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'And he told me to spread my legs,
remove my knickers.
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'Then he penetrate me
very, very hard.'
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It was so painful,
I just wanted to stop.
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'After that, he told me,
323
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' "Wash yourself,
you have to go to work."
324
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'So I go to the bathroom,
and I was bleeding.'
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My vagina was bleeding.
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I was in pain.
I couldn't work after that.
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And he was a bit angry
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because I was like,
"I can't see anyone."
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But at the same time,
in my head, I was like,
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"If I go somewhere else,
I'm going to be safe."
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You go somewhere else, you'll be...?
Safer. Even if I see someone else.
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Not in his apartment?
No.
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I also met a girl named Hannah
who was raped by Shahin.
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This was three years before me
in 2015.
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She reported her rape to the police,
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and, yeah, her case was dropped.
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HANNAH: If I think back,
I'm like, "Shit, I got raped."
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Yeah.
A lot of times.
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Are you OK?
I'm just... OK, yeah.
340
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Yeah. It's just emotional.
Yeah, it is.
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So, the last night,
we got into an argument.
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And then he threatened to shoot me.
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And he reached under his desk,
344
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and in my head,
I went, "Oh, shit. I will die."
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So I peg it out the door.
346
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I run downstairs,
and I decide to call the police.
347
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I think, in my head,
I hoped he had a gun.
348
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,960
Yeah, so, then, like,
he could be stopped.
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Police turn up,
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and they were useless,
the police were useless.
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And I think it hurts, like...
that nothing was done,
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00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,960
and, like, there was so many
opportunities to stop Shahin.
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And if they did
a proper investigation
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into my complaints,
we would not be sitting here.
355
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,960
'I was checking my profile
on AdultWorks quite frequently.
356
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,960
'Shahin didn't take it down.
357
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,960
'He said he would,
did not take it down.
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00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,960
'My sense of worth was being crushed
359
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'by seeing my own profile,
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'which I have not consented to,
develop.'
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And here I am,
sitting in a safe house,
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wondering who the hell
Shahin is sending out as me.
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'On the AdultWorks platform,
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00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,960
'you can go and click on a profile
and book a girl.'
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00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,320
So, I decided to book myself
off the internet.
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I had some assistance
from my friend.
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00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,960
I think my friend was like,
"This is an absolutely crazy idea."
368
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960
So, I went to a hotel...
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..had my friend make the booking.
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SHAHIN: 'Hello?'
Hello?
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00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,960
412.
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00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,960
Is she definitely the girl
in the pictures?
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And is she from New Zealand?
'Yeah.'
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I just had sort of one goal
in that moment,
375
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which was to get her number.
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00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,960
It wasn't to tell her
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00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,480
I had also worked at the agency
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00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,960
because I didn't know the extent
of her own situation with Shahin.
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It just felt a bit dangerous.
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00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,960
This girl showed up, and...
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00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,480
she was nothing like me.
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00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960
She didn't have
a New Zealand accent,
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she didn't have light hair.
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00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960
She was a Romanian girl.
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00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,960
I remember her being sort of shy.
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00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,960
I think she was expecting, you know,
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00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,960
that there was a man
on the other side of the door.
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00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960
So, I told her, you know,
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00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960
"I'm not looking for sex, I'm not
looking for anything like that.
390
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,960
"I just, like, you know,
wanna have a chat."
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00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,800
I explained to her that
I came from a sex-work background.
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The moment I said that, like,
she was very open.
393
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,960
And then I had minutes,
394
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960
I had minutes
before her phone went off.
395
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,800
And she says, "I have to go."
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00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,960
You know, she was telling me
that the agency wasn't good,
397
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,960
and just before she left, I said,
"I'm gonna give you my number
398
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"if you wanna contact me,
and I'll help you find better work."
399
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,960
And she said, "Thank you," and left.
400
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960
She contacted me,
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00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,960
saying sorry she had to leave,
you know,
402
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,960
her boss needed her to go,
and I was like, "OK, cool."
403
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,960
I did eventually tell her
I used to work for SoulMates,
404
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,960
talked a bit about, like,
going to the police.
405
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,960
And it was really funny,
cos she told me, she said,
406
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,320
"Oh, Shahin spoke about this girl
who went to the police.
407
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,960
"The police didn't do anything,
they didn't do anything." You know?
408
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000
And here I am thinking,
"He's talking about me."
409
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,960
And he's telling the victims
going through his door
410
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,960
that nothing will happen
if you go to the police
411
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,960
because that's what happened!
412
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000
'I just went on a real deep dive
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00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,960
'to get as much information
as I plausibly could about Shahin.'
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00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,960
I have gone through
Shahin's Facebook statuses
415
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,960
all pretty closely.
416
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,800
"They call me
Draculine of the West End"
417
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,960
is what he's got under his name.
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00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960
And then his cover photo...
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00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,960
..is a shot taken
outside the property
420
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800
pointing to the window
where I was raped.
421
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,960
Why would you pick that photo
to put as your cover photo?
422
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320
October 25th, 2014.
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00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,960
"I don't need the right
from anybody. I am taking it."
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00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,960
September 14th, 2013.
425
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,960
"House party with ten bombshells."
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00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960
And you know what's going on there.
427
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,960
INTERVIEWER: What is going on?
Yeah, it's girls...
428
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,960
It's girls in his flat. Victims.
429
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,960
Shahin is not shy
to put himself out on the internet.
430
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,960
He has videos on YouTube.
431
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960
He was an actor and a singer
432
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,800
and a songwriter,
all of which weren't true.
433
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,960
There's a video on YouTube...
434
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960
SINGING IN BENGALI
435
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,480
What is he trying to do
by making a video like this?
436
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,960
What's his aim?
437
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960
I think he's trying to sell the idea
438
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,160
that he has fame,
that he's highly important.
439
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,960
He wants to be famous, I think.
440
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,960
What's it like for you when you see
his face again in these videos?
441
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160
For a while,
I didn't really wanna, like...
442
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,960
look at his face or, like,
think about his face.
443
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,960
Because the image of him
is so strong my head, you know,
444
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960
and I can't not unsee his face now.
445
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,960
'I found another document online.
446
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,960
'And to me,
it is a public catalogue of...'
447
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,000
..rape victims of Shahin's.
That's what it is to me.
448
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:02,960
This document is a decision
from a High Court judge
449
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,960
who refused Shahin's grant
for permanent residency in the UK
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00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,960
in light of
these alleged sexual assaults.
451
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,960
The document points out
11 non-convictions since 2008.
452
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,960
He threatens to shoot,
453
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,640
stab and kill women,
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00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,960
as well as several alleged rapes.
455
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Again, sharing similar accounts.
456
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,960
The judge ruled that he was a pimp,
that he had a short temper
457
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,960
and that he was
a serious threat to women.
458
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,960
What a disgrace.
459
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:59,960
The authorities let hundreds,
if not thousands, of women down.
460
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,960
What is it, 365 days in a year?
461
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,960
He could have multiple victims,
462
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960
in one day, raped.
463
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,800
'Traumatisation
after traumatisation.
464
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,960
'And yet, the police closed my case,
465
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960
'saying that there wasn't
enough evidence.'
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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,960
I don't know,
I was just kind of like,
467
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,320
"What is wrong with the world?"
468
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,960
KATE ELLIS: Sam wrote to us in 2019.
469
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,320
She wrote us
this very interesting letter
470
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,960
which gripped me straightaway.
471
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,960
'And she was speaking on behalf
of herself and two other victims.
472
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,960
'So they came into our office.'
473
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,960
And when I first met Sam,
I was impressed straightaway.
474
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960
I mean, I've been impressed
by her letter.
475
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,960
I had a sense of her
as someone who was very determined,
476
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,960
for whom
it was never just about her.
477
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,960
It was always her
and the other two victims,
478
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,960
and then any other number
of unnamed victims out there,
479
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960
she always had that in her mind.
480
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,960
'We asked her to tell us
a bit about her story
481
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,960
'and what this man had done,
482
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,960
'and she tried, but she was really,
really finding it hard,
483
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960
'at times, to get the words out.
484
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,960
I just remember it
being extremely powerful
485
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960
and extremely upsetting to hear her
talking about it and to...
486
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960
In a way, the things
that she wasn't able to say,
487
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,960
you know, said more
than what she was able to say.
488
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,960
'So, from there,
it really became about
489
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,960
'challenging the police over this
490
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,960
'and trying to press for
the investigation to be reopened.'
491
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960
The first time
I was in the safe house,
492
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,960
I stayed a little bit over a year.
493
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:04,960
And then I was in private
accommodation with friends.
494
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,960
And then I became
an illegal immigrant, I guess.
495
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,960
'My visa ran out, and...
496
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960
'I didn't have the right to work.
497
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,960
'So I couldn't support myself
independently.'
498
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,960
I was living below the poverty line.
499
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,960
I'm moving back
to the safe house.
500
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,000
Yeah, for...
501
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960
..an unknown period of time.
502
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,960
INTERVIEWER:
And there's no rent to pay?
503
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,960
No. No, no, no.
504
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,800
Do you find there's a lot of rules
in the safe house?
505
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,960
Yeah, I don't know. I just...
506
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,960
I have to get my head around it
sometimes. Erm...
507
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
And that's probably
because I just don't trust...
508
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,960
I don't trust people all the time.
509
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,320
You had quite a tough
first few years of your life.
510
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,960
I mean, yeah.
511
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,640
I was born in Russia,
512
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,960
and I was put in this orphanage
513
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,960
because my mother
couldn't look after me,
514
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960
so I was taken away.
515
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,960
And, erm...
516
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,960
..it made things complicated.
517
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,960
Yeah, it made things
really complicated, but, yeah...
518
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,960
SHE LAUGHS WRYLY
It is what it is.
519
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,960
Everyone's, you know,
been dished something.
520
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,960
In life?
Yeah, yeah.
521
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,960
I knew that there is a process
in place to challenge decisions.
522
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,800
And anyone can do it.
It's an internal complaints process.
523
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,000
'You can seek a review
by a more senior officer.'
524
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,960
And actually, by the time
we got to the meeting
525
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,960
where they were supposed to explain
why they dropped the case,
526
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,960
they had done a bit of a U-turn
and decided they should reopen it.
527
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960
'To learn from Kate that...
528
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,960
'that the police were going to be
reopening my case...'
529
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,960
I mean, obviously, it was good news.
530
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,960
But also, I was thinking,
"What's next? Who knows!"
531
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,960
You know? Like, I don't know
what's next at this point.
532
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,960
When Kate informed me
533
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,960
that the police had lost my VRI,
video-recorded interview...
534
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,960
SHE EXHALES DEEPLY
535
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,960
'So, there was a string of emails
that were sent to my lawyer.'
536
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,960
It's a conversation between
multiple officers on this case
537
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,960
looking for solutions
for that lost evidence.
538
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,960
I'm just gonna read
a little section out of here.
539
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,960
"In 2018, matters were presented
to the CPS as rape.
540
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,000
"The three ABE masters
are now missing.
541
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,960
"There are significant gaps
in the case.
542
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,960
"Sad for the victims, but not
necessarily our job to recover.
543
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,960
"So, in my view, as before,
544
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,960
"keep away from the 2018 for now
and focus on the current.
545
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,960
"We have some cracking new..."
In capital letters.
546
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,960
"..witnesses,
and if all goes to plan,
547
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960
"there will be one or two
or three girls
548
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960
"working with him
when he is arrested.
549
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,160
"This will be recent evidence
of his enterprise."
550
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,960
It just makes you feel shit,
doesn't it?
551
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960
It's just trying to keep us on
in case,
552
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,960
and that's what they say here, too.
553
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,960
Just try and keep us
in case they need us.
554
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,640
MALE OFFICER: Obviously, you know
that we're here to talk about
555
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,160
an allegation you made
sort of mid-2018.
556
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,960
So, what was the expectation of you
when you went to these clients?
557
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,960
I was expressing...
558
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,960
I was expressing to him
in his hotel room that I wasn't OK.
559
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,960
TEARFULLY: But he, erm...
560
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,960
Yeah.
561
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,960
When you say you weren't OK,
just describe that a bit, please.
562
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,160
SHE SNIFFLES
Erm...
563
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,960
I couldn't...
564
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Erm... It was just...
565
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,320
..difficult.
566
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,960
Difficult to...
567
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,960
..say certain things sometimes
to these people
568
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,160
because they already had
their own expectations,
569
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,480
because Shahin had already said
to them that that was OK anyways
570
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,960
to do whatever
the fuck you want with us.
571
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,960
We're outside
the police station now.
572
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,960
I've returned to do another VI.
573
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,800
INTERVIEWER: VI?
Yeah, video interview.
574
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,160
This is my third time.
575
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Just a few weeks back,
576
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,960
I was here for almost six hours
completing an interview,
577
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,320
and the disk didn't work
when they went to check it.
578
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,960
It was broken. Erm...
579
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,960
So, yeah,
this is why I'm here today.
580
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Last time, I walked out
and all these boxes in my head,
581
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:03,160
erm, yeah,
the lids are sort of just left ajar,
582
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,960
and it sort of left me...
583
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,960
..exposed. I felt really exposed.
584
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,960
And it's taking my memory back
585
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,480
into a time
where I was quite helpless.
586
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,960
I don't like that feeling.
587
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,960
Right, so the time
by my phone is 10:56.
588
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,000
It's Monday 14th December, 2020.
589
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,640
I only propose to cover
what we're missing.
590
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,960
So, I heard from Max yesterday,
Officer Max,
591
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,960
and Shahin has now been charged
592
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,800
with rape in connection
with the allegations.
593
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,960
Really?
Yeah. So he's facing five charges...
594
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,960
Wow.
..in connection with your account.
595
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,960
Two charges of rape, two charges
of sexual assault by penetration...
596
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,800
Yeah. ..and one charge of
controlling prostitution for gain.
597
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,960
That's so cool. That's really cool.
That feels like a...
598
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,960
Yeah, a big weight off that push.
599
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Cool!
I mean, I think well done, you.
600
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,320
Honestly, because this
wouldn't have happened without you.
601
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,800
Yeah, that's crazy.
OK, after all that.
602
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Do you wanna know how many charges
he's facing in total?
603
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,960
Yeah.
40.
604
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,960
40?
SHE EXHALES
605
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,960
So, from that day
where you went to the police,
606
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,960
and then you get told
there's nothing here...
607
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Yeah.
..to 40 charges.
608
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,960
You never know what's gonna happen,
but I'm tentatively optimistic
609
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,960
that it's gonna be hard for him
to make all that go away.
610
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,960
That's really good news.
I feel like it's...
611
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960
That's the best news, actually.
That's really cool.
612
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,960
ABBEY: Yo!
Hi!
613
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960
THEY CHUCKLE
Good news.
614
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,960
Yeah?
Yeah.
615
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Yeah, you look like
you had good news.
616
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Yeah, really good news. The, erm....
617
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,000
CPS has approved the rape charge,
so... No!
618
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Yeah! It's sick. It's sick.
Oh, my God!
619
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960
It's sick. It's good.
Oh, that's such good news.
620
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,480
It's good, eh?
Really pleased about this.
621
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Do you believe in
anything like, erm...
622
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,960
a Loch Ness Monster
or, like, a yeti?
623
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,640
Not, really. I don't think so.
624
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,960
I'd like to see it.
625
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,640
'Abbey's my partner.
626
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,960
'She comes from a very different
background from myself.'
627
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,960
You know, does Santa Claus count?
628
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,960
CHUCKLING: What?
You know?
629
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,960
And we're both
pretty outdoorsy people, so...
630
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,960
it's nice to go away
and do something
631
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,960
both, like, together, and...
632
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,960
Yeah, definitely.
SAM CHUCKLES
633
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,160
Where are you looking?
There. That, see?
634
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,480
Oh, wow.
A whole host of them.
635
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,960
LAUGHING: What?
636
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
It's been quite special
637
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,960
that she's been able to
kind of handle all this.
638
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,960
'It's a personal thing,
and it's not always an easy thing.'
639
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:50,000
It's nice to have that support,
and, you know...
640
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,960
the amount of times I've gone,
"Agh!" You know, just...
641
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,640
..just get so upset by something,
really, you know?
642
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,960
'Yeah, she helps bring me back down,
643
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,960
'and she'll remind me
why I'm still here, and...
644
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,960
'the importance of this case.'
645
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,960
And she'll remind me
the impact my voice has
646
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,160
so that I get the justice I deserve
647
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,960
as well as the justice
for many others
648
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,960
who haven't been able to
voice themselves,
649
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,960
necessarily, so easily.
650
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,960
'Because, sometimes, you do
get so overwhelmed by things.'
651
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,480
'We are outside
Tottenham Police Station.
652
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,960
'So that I can view
653
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960
'what do they say, an ID parade.'
654
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,800
Was it easy to recognise him?
655
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,960
Yeah.
656
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Yeah, that's the feeling
when it first comes up.
657
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,960
Yeah.
658
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Just swallow...
659
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,960
SHE LAUGHS
660
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,960
The police had me sign
some document.
661
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,320
And I didn't like
the way it was written
662
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,960
that "I had sex" with this man.
663
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,960
So I corrected it.
664
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Er...
665
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960
that I was raped by this man.
666
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,960
You've just completely
667
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960
disregarded
668
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
why I'm here in the first place.
669
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,960
SHE LAUGHS
670
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,160
Not hugely psyched to be here today.
671
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Why not?
672
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,960
Er...
673
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,000
I feel like I'm having to...
674
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,960
sort of declare my innocence...
675
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,960
..over communications
I've had with another victim.
676
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,960
Because...
677
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,960
of this idea of collusion.
678
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,960
I think the police
have been conscious
679
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
that one line of attack
that the defence might use
680
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,960
is because Sam was such a...
rock, actually,
681
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,960
for the other two victims
who reported him in 2018,
682
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,320
that that almost might
somehow undermine her credibility.
683
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,960
I think the suggestion was
that in any case
684
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,960
where you've got a number of victims
telling a similar story,
685
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,960
on one level, clearly
that supports the prosecution case,
686
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,960
that suggests
they are all telling the truth.
687
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,960
But on another level,
688
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,960
it can allow the defence
to try and suggest
689
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,640
that there's been collusion,
690
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,480
or that the women have...
691
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,960
discussed their accounts
with each other.
692
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,960
Hi.
693
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,960
You all right?
Yeah.
694
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Yeah.
695
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,960
Yeah.
696
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Fun times.
697
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,960
Are you feeling nervous?
Yeah, a little bit.
698
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,960
I don't really feel like being here
699
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,960
for this particular interview.
Yeah.
700
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,960
Yeah.
Yeah.
701
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,960
I dunno, I just feel...
702
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,960
Oh, yeah.
703
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,960
I don't like
having to prove my own innocence,
704
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,640
I don't like that feeling.
705
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,960
No, I know.
706
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,160
I do think that the police and CPS
at the moment
707
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,960
see you as a credible victim.
708
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,960
It's really hard
for sexual offence cases
709
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,960
to make it to trial,
they so often don't.
710
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,960
That you are one of the rare ones
711
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,640
where they obviously think
they can prove the case.
712
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,960
Yeah.
713
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,960
So, I would remember that,
at the same time, hold onto that.
714
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,960
Over it.
715
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960
I hope that they've made you
feel like that.
716
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,960
I'm really sorry.
717
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Just over it.
718
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Yeah.
719
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,960
SHE SCOFFS
720
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,960
Hopefully, this is the last time
I have to come back here.
721
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,960
Yeah.
Yeah.
722
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,960
Yeah, so I met her back in 2018...
723
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,960
erm...
724
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,960
when I ordered myself
off the internet.
725
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,960
Have you ever colluded with her?
726
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,480
No.
727
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,960
Around making any allegations?
728
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,960
No. Not...
729
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,960
I mean,
I've shared a hatred with her.
730
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,320
If that's collusion.
731
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,960
OK.
732
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,960
But have you...
733
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,960
For instance, have you told her
734
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,960
what to say to anybody
or anything of that nature?
735
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960
I don't think so, I've just told her
736
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960
where she can get,
you know, support.
737
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,960
What was the purpose of the...
738
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,960
contact,
739
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,960
the first time you met her to,
let's say, today?
740
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,960
Yeah.
741
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,160
The first... The first...
742
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,960
The first time was
to see who was behind my profile.
743
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,960
And, erm...
744
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,960
the second time
was to see if she was OK.
745
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Yeah.
746
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,320
OK, so the purpose
of your continued...
747
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,960
I just wanted to check she was OK
and that she had help.
748
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,960
I wanted to check she was OK,
that she had help,
749
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,640
and if she did have
the appropriate help,
750
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,960
perhaps she would be more...
more inclined
751
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,960
to share deeper experiences,
752
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,960
that may have actually
in turn been helpful.
753
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,960
You know,
because she was in a lot of pain.
754
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Yeah.
755
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,960
I don't feel like I did
a wrong thing by contacting her.
756
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,960
I shouldn't be made to feel
like I've done a wrong thing.
757
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,960
I shouldn't be made to feel like
758
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,960
caring is the wrong thing
to do here.
759
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,320
How long have you known BLEEP?
760
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,960
Since April 2018.
761
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,960
OK, thank you.
762
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,960
Are you in regular contact?
763
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,320
Er... OK, I probably...
764
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,960
We go through waves.
765
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,960
How do you know her,
like, as a person?
766
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,960
What's your...
I only know her through...
767
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,960
..the shared...
768
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,960
SoulMates,
I know her through SoulMates.
769
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:11,960
'It made me scared to speak to...
770
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,960
'..particularly
any of the other girls.
771
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960
'Dunno, the fear that came
out of like...
772
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,480
'am I going to damage this case
773
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,960
'by speaking to somebody?'
774
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,320
Am I not allowed to?
775
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,960
Like, I just was questioning
who I could and couldn't
776
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,480
even speak to,
including my own lawyer.
777
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,960
It put me in a bit of a position
where I felt like my support network
778
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960
was a little bit fragile.
779
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960
I was a bit fragile.
780
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,960
SIREN
781
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,960
What did this letter
or email from the police say?
782
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,960
They said,
783
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,960
"It appears that the existence
of the film-maker
784
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,960
"has been deliberately hidden
for a good period of time,
785
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960
"and I have now been tasking
786
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,960
"with reviewing
all the material he has.
787
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,960
"I will need to take
a further statement
788
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,960
"about that also."
789
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,640
So the police are saying
that you deliberately
790
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,960
withheld the fact that you were
making this film with me?
791
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,800
Pfft.
Right?
792
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:28,960
Yeah.
793
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,960
But also we look back at 2019,
794
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,960
when you and I
first started filming.
795
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,960
The police investigation
seemed to be going nowhere.
796
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,960
And then they closed your case.
Yeah.
797
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Just coming at me
798
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,960
and asking me to hand over...
799
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,960
..er...
800
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,000
..something
that has felt quite rewarding
801
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,960
in all of this chaos, actually.
802
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,960
But at the end of the day,
they didn't...
803
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,960
They needed to listen to me better.
804
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,960
They needed to believe...
everything out of my mouth,
805
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,320
everything that was
out of anybody else's mouth.
806
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,640
And they think...
807
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,960
..you know...
808
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,960
..there was, like, a right...
809
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,960
Invasion of my privacy,
of my own rights...
810
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,960
..to do something for me.
811
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,960
You know. And...
812
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,320
I'm allowed to... share my story.
813
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,960
Because...
814
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,960
they're not sharing my story.
815
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,800
They're sharing theirs.
816
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,960
So, I've just come out of the court.
817
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,960
There's no resolution yet.
818
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,480
But I did find out
that the main trial against Shahin
819
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,960
has been delayed for
maybe as much as a year.
820
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,320
And that's gonna be
tough news for Sam.
821
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,960
At the end of the day,
the judge deferred a decision.
822
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,960
Yeah.
823
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,960
It transpired in court
that there was a hearing
824
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,960
the day before... and that...
825
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,640
..about vacating the case,
826
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,960
or putting the main case back.
827
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:40,960
Really?
828
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,960
And the court
has agreed to delay it.
829
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,480
Why?
830
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,640
What? Sorry, what?
831
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,960
They're going to delay
the trial now?
832
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,480
That's... That...
They are going to delay it again?
833
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,960
Why?
Well, it's...
834
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,960
It's hard for me to know because
this is the first thing I heard
835
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,960
when I got into the court.
836
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,960
And this is only me picking between
the words that the judge said, so...
837
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,960
I've got no other knowledge,
but the judge did say this,
838
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,640
so I think it's pretty much...
reliable.
839
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,960
The trial was now postponed.
840
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,320
Postponed a year.
841
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,160
That's a long time to wait.
842
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,960
And some of the other victims
dropped off
843
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,960
from supporting the prosecution.
844
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,960
Everything was a bit harder.
845
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Hi.
Hey. Hey. How are you?
846
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,960
Drop it like it's hot.
OK.
847
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,960
The police are not getting access
to any of our footage.
848
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,640
Really?
849
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,960
Because of the judge's ruling.
850
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,960
Really? Cool. I was...
I was just expecting...
851
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,960
I was expecting some bad news,
Richard,
852
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,960
I honestly was expecting some...
853
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,960
That's really awesome.
Yeah.
854
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,960
I'm just gonna bring you here.
855
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,000
It's the first time
you got a new friend?
856
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,960
Yeah. This is Charlie.
857
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,960
He's a happy pup.
He's ten weeks today.
858
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,960
I've wanted a dog
for a really long time.
859
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,960
And I think, like, it's,
trial is not too far away,
860
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,960
I just think, it's really good
for my mental health.
861
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,960
Like, I've had, like,
sort of waves of anxiety at times.
862
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,480
Erm...
863
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,320
And he's certainly
helping with that.
864
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,960
So... yeah, I think he's...
865
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,960
..bringing lots of love.
866
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,960
Bringing lots of love, aren't we?
867
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,960
Sam, I think,
will be a central witness.
868
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,960
I mean, she's been told,
specifically,
869
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,960
by the officer in the case,
that her testimony
870
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,960
is considered
particularly powerful.
871
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,960
The interviews she's given.
872
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,960
And the defence
are gonna come after her.
873
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,000
'Mind the gap between the train
and the platform.'
874
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,960
It always comes down
to the credibility of the victim.
875
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,960
You know, mostly these cases will be
one person's word against another.
876
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,960
I don't really know how I'm feeling
other than nervous.
877
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,960
So...
878
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,960
The defence will be playing,
I think,
879
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,960
on myths and stereotypes
about how a victim will behave.
880
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,960
How's my regrowth looking?
881
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,960
Is it ten out of ten?
882
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,960
And the fact that
there was a delay in reporting.
883
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,960
Even though it's not a long gap
in the grand scheme of things.
884
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,000
I fear that there
are probably people
885
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,960
who struggle to take
the same approach to consent,
886
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,960
when you're talking about someone
who turned up for a job
887
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,320
at something
that was advertising itself
888
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,960
as an escort agency.
889
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,320
That they wanted
or expected to have sex.
890
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,800
But, of course,
that's not how consent works.
891
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,960
You don't sign away
your right to say no
892
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,320
when you turn up for a sex-work job,
893
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,960
even if that is
what Sam had been expecting.
894
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,960
I think Sam
is gonna find it difficult
895
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,960
even to be questioned
about the offence itself.
896
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,800
I mean, the way that the defence
will present in cross-examination
897
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,000
is that they will put
their case to her.
898
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,800
So, even when she's saying,
"No, it wasn't like that,
899
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,960
"it didn't happen like that,"
900
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,960
they will put to her
that she is a liar.
901
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,960
Been, what, four years, eight months
since events took place.
902
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,960
I think that's right.
903
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,160
Yeah. So it's quite a long time
904
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,960
leading up
to this particular moment.
905
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,960
It sort of feels kinda surreal.
906
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,960
How do you feel
about the possibility
907
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,960
of seeing him face-to-face again?
908
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,960
I won't see him face-to-face
cos I'll have a screen.
909
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,960
He can't see me, I can't see him.
910
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,960
I wouldn't want to look at him.
911
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,960
I wouldn't want to acknowledge him.
912
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,960
It's kind of a weird
and uncomfortable thought
913
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:02,960
to think if he is there,
you know...
914
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,160
Yeah, I dunno, just...
915
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,960
Yeah. Yeah, that's...
916
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,960
That's... That's where I'm at
with this right now.
917
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,800
Yeah, I gave it my best shot.
918
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,800
I gave it my best shot.
919
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,960
I found parts of that
really, really challenging and...
920
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,960
..being under pressure
and trying to respond was just...
921
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,640
Yeah, it felt quite intense.
922
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,960
I feel like if I could go back,
923
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,960
there's things
I would have said now...
924
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,960
erm...
925
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000
Yeah, I didn't like
some of that at all.
926
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,960
But... I got through it.
927
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,960
Yeah, I got through it, so...
928
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,960
Really?
929
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,960
Really!
930
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,960
Yay!
931
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,960
Oh, yes, yes!
932
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,960
Cool.
933
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,000
Yeah.
934
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,960
All five, all five!
935
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,800
All five counts, babe.
936
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,960
It's nice to get to the finish line
and there be a positive outcome.
937
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,960
Being believed
makes me feel validated.
938
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,960
It has helped me let go
939
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,960
of some of the deeper feelings.
940
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,800
Yeah, I like to think I've done OK.
941
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,960
Despite everything, I've done OK.
I've come out the other end
942
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,960
and I'm on my feet moving forward.
943
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,640
And I think the main thing is
that he's now off the streets.
944
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,960
He's no longer a hazard.
945
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,960
He is no longer a threat.
946
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,960
So, I'm safe.
947
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,960
And everyone else
is safe from him, too.
948
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:45,960
I think that's...
949
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,960
..the biggest thing.
950
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,960
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