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the people are represented
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by two separate yet equally important groups:
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The police, who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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We got you.
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I got you.
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What is it?
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Ooh, that's
a globe thistle pod
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from a globe thistle tree.
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Oh, okay.
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Oh, get real.
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I can't just leave
for lunch.
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Who says you
got to leave?
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I'm sure you've got
a peanut butter
sandwich for me.
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What have you got
to trade?
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Dinner in Soho, tonight?
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Okay, but I get
to keep my Twinkies.
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Hey, Tisha!
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Tisha, stay away
from the dog.
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That's not a stray.
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It has a collar.
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( screaming )
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Are you okay?
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Did he bite you?
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( sobs )
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( gasps )
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She's real cold.
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They say she's been
out here for hours.
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What is it-- a rape,
or a mugging?
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Don't know.
She's in bad shape.
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Skull's
fractured.
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Looks like she's
been choked.
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They think
she'll make it?
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I don't know.
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They can barely
find blood pressure.
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Hey, guys, move.
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Where to?
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Saint Teresa's.
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Found this...
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on the path.
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coming through!
Coming through,
PARAMEDIC:
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CERRETA:
Has she been conscious?
Has she said anything?
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She's in a coma,
Detective;
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that tends
to prevent speech.
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Go to the park,
get your head crushed?
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Makes you want to move
someplace safe.
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Didn't know
there were any left.
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Is she gonna
get out of this?
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Cerebral hemorrhage,
skull fractures,
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damage to the vocal chords--
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add the exposure,
it's a miracle she's alive.
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She survives this,
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she's in for
a long recovery.
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You the cops who
sent us the Jane Doe?
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Yup.
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Lucy Neven.
568 Central Park West.
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You're kidding.
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No, I made it up.
Why?
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Major soap star.
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Delia Mason
on World Without End.
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My mother watches it.
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She follows the stories
like it happened
to the neighbors.
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Tell your mom,
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she's in for
a plot twist.
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You believe this?
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They already
got her buried.
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She's not in
great shape.
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We don't crack this quick,
we won't be either.
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Whatever's on your plate,
clean it.
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This comes first.
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Well, it ain't
a mugging,
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'cause she still had
cash with her.
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Could have been interrupted--
caught in the act.
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She's recognizable.
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This woman is on a
soap opera every day.
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LOGAN:
John Lennon theory.
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It's not possible
heard of her?e never
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The fact
of the matter is,
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these people get accosted
in the supermarket,
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for crying out loud.
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Phil, nobody's saying no. Okay?
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It's a possibility.
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Now, what about the girl?
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Is she in any shape
to talk to us?
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Barely breathing.
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Get what you can
without her then, okay?
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I'm on double shifts.
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These days, you got to take
all the work you can get.
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Do you have people hanging
around for her?
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Fans? Autograph hounds?
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Five, six a year.
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Miss Neven-- she keeps
her address a secret.
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MAN:
Thank you.
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She was almost killed
on the show.
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Do you believe in destiny,
karma,
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that kind of thing?
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She was mugged
not on TV.k,
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Does she walk her dog
on a schedule?
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10:00, every night. I give Roxy
a biscuit as they go out.
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Does Miss Neven have
a busy social life?
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A good-looking lady
like that?
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My aunt gets more action;
she's 60.
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They had to write her
out of the show.
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My mother thinks
Lucy is so glamorous.
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I've got it easy being her
secretary.
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She has to work
12 hours a day.
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She have time
to make enemies?
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She's up at 5:30;
she's at the studio by 7:00.
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She gets home,
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she's too tired
to brush her teeth.
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That's hardly time for friends,
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let alone enemies.
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Could you tell us
if anything
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she'd have with her
is missing?
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A ring, her...
grandmother's wedding band,
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and a medal--
her father gave it to her.
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St. Genesius.
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St. Genesius. That's..?
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WOMAN:
The patron saint
of actors.
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But why take that?
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They didn't take the money;
that's crazy.
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Do you get requests from people
who ask for things like that?
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I sort them--
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weird, weirder, weirdest.
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These are just
the past three months.
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"I cannot live with the idea
that you are angry with me."
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"I know you would love
my daughter."
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"I didn't like it when you
wouldn't talk to us."
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A woman
broke Lucy's skull? No.
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Pardon me, Dr. Freud.
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Women don't get angry
and violent?
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I hope her mail
is more interesting than mine.
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No contest. These should
be postmarked "Bellevue."
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We have three solid cuckoos
in town-- one in Atlanta,
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two in St. Louis,
three in L.A.,
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and one in Denver.
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Had to be local.
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Stalked her, knew
when she walked the dog.
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Still, I'll check
the out-of-town alibis.
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You guys knock on doors.
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First we get fettuccini,
then knock on doors.
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( knocking )
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Hello?
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Mr. Wadsworth?
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MAN:
Who's asking?
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Police.
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We're looking for nominations
for Citizen of the Week, sir.
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I'm Mr. Wadsworth.
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And there's not a person on this
damn block worth nominating.
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Yes, and you're not
the first one to say so, sir.
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I wrote her letters.
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She said in lots of interviews
that she likes to get them.
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If you could tell us
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where you were
at 10:00 or 11:00?
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My girlfriend's apartment,
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and then I got home...
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um, I don't know... Dad?
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Oh, I got home
from the office at 9:00.
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Jesse got home...
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What, Jesse? 10:00?
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Yeah, I think so.
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Ah, Olivia, our housekeeper,
she'd remember.
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Olivia?
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Olivia,
Thursday night--
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what time
did Jesse get home?
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Around 10:30.
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I was watching the news--
channel nine.
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Thank you.
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The biggest soap convention
of the year.
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I wouldn't miss that.
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I was there
Thursday morning
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to be there before
the good stuff got sold.
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That's dedication for you.
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That comb-- only $60.
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Delia was using it
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when she told Joel
she wouldn't marry him.
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She's too good for him.
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All the people there--
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maybe some dealers or somebody
might remember you?
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Oh, I don't know.
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There were 6,000 people.
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Oh, I took the shuttle back.
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I threw out the ticket.
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I think it's right here.
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Was he taller than you?
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Or the same height?
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LOGAN:
Taller.
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You got a good look at him?
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ARTIST:
He was dark?
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He had a dark complexion?
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CERRETA:
Is this the best
you can do?
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With a woman
who can't talk?
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She's good for 15 minutes
at a stretch.
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Thanks anyway.
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You got the staff list
of the soap?
Yeah.
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Maybe someone was hanging around
that door bothering her.
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It's worth a shot.
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To me, they all
look the same--
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autograph pads, sparkly pens
with big white balls on top.
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They line up outside.
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They can be difficult.
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Maybe Miss Neven made
one of her fans angry?
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She was very gracious.
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More than me.
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The end of a day,
I want to get home.
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I got a two-year-old kid.
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00:10:05,171 --> 00:10:07,038
Did Lucy get close
to anybody on the crew?
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00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,307
I guess Sara was the closest.
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CERRETA:
"Was"?
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Lucy had her fired.
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Something about
stuff missing.
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You mean,
she was stealing?
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Sara said no.
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I like her,
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but she didn't file
a union grievance
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when she got canned.
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Did she have the right
to file one?
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Lucy was probably right.
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I got her another job--
costume house.
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They supply us, other shows.
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I'd heard of Lucy
turning on people,
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but I thought we got along.
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Must have done wonders
for your reputation.
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I'm happy to have a job.
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CERRETA:
Why didn't you
tell your union?
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I did.
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I did.
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You think we didn't check?
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I'll put you on the phone
with your shop steward.
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You know what they do
with old costumes?
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Actors take them home.
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A guy corners me
outside the studio,
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hands me 200--
anything of Lucy's.
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Who would it hurt?
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What the hell's that?
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Thou shalt not steal,
except when nobody gets hurt?
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I needed the money.
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But then he started
wanting slips, bras...
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that stuff doesn't belong
to wardrobe.
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That's a fine distinction.
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Who was your source of income?
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00:11:15,976 --> 00:11:18,943
Mitchell Burkitt-- down on
the Lower Eastside somewhere.
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What'd he do
with Lucy's underwear?
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I really didn't want to know.
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Burkitt, Michael W.--
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criminal trespass two,
burglary three.
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What does he like?
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Soap opera studios,
movie locations.
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Also assaulted a guard
who tried to stop him.
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His supplier gets canned,
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no more underwear
to sell.
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A ring and a medal--
bigger bucks.
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Draw some arrest papers.
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00:11:42,436 --> 00:11:44,202
Phil, we're not
even pregnant yet.
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Assault record?
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I want to be prepared.
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( loud music playing )
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( whispering: )
The stereo's on.
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He's at home.
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00:12:02,289 --> 00:12:03,988
MAN:
Who is it?
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Con Ed-- checking
for a gas leak!
263
00:12:09,196 --> 00:12:10,228
Drop it!
264
00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:12,197
Don't even think
about it, Mitch!
265
00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:14,165
Now!
266
00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:17,302
You are under arrest
for the attempted murder
267
00:12:17,304 --> 00:12:18,303
of Lucy Neven.
268
00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:20,305
Why didn't you say
you were cops?
269
00:12:20,307 --> 00:12:22,307
You have the right
to remain silent...
270
00:12:22,309 --> 00:12:24,342
You didn't say
you were cops!
271
00:12:26,847 --> 00:12:28,397
In my neighborhood, man,
272
00:12:28,398 --> 00:12:29,948
you wouldn't answer
my door without a gun.
273
00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:32,050
Next time, get one
that's licensed.
274
00:12:32,052 --> 00:12:33,952
I didn't do the lady.
275
00:12:33,954 --> 00:12:35,954
What, do you think
I'm crazy?
276
00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:38,823
Actually, you're about
the sanest person
277
00:12:38,825 --> 00:12:39,991
we've met all week.
278
00:12:39,993 --> 00:12:42,293
Why would I do her, huh?
279
00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:43,862
She's a cash cow.
280
00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:45,997
I survive on her stuff.
281
00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:49,000
Not since
you lost your source.
282
00:12:49,002 --> 00:12:54,539
So, Mr. Burkitt,
where were you Thursday night?
283
00:12:54,541 --> 00:12:56,875
I was alone.
284
00:12:56,877 --> 00:12:58,409
Prove I wasn't.
285
00:12:58,411 --> 00:13:00,411
Prove you were!
286
00:13:00,413 --> 00:13:03,948
Your Lucy stuff--
who buys it?
287
00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:05,917
Kleinman, down on 15th Street.
288
00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:06,951
I want a lawyer.
289
00:13:06,953 --> 00:13:08,419
You'll get a lawyer.
290
00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:10,321
I'll even pay
for the call.
291
00:13:10,323 --> 00:13:13,992
Don't ever say cops
aren't generous.
292
00:13:13,994 --> 00:13:16,327
You want stills
from South Pacific?
293
00:13:16,329 --> 00:13:18,029
Mitzi Gaynor's shoes? Fine.
294
00:13:18,031 --> 00:13:20,165
LOGAN:
Not Lucy Neven's
underwear?
295
00:13:20,167 --> 00:13:21,966
Do I look like a pervert?
296
00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:24,536
Who buys Lucy's clothes?
297
00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:26,571
Customer's names-- it's private.
298
00:13:26,573 --> 00:13:28,106
Did you give Burkitt
an order
299
00:13:28,108 --> 00:13:29,908
to steal Lucy's jewelry?
300
00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:30,992
I sell memorabilia.
301
00:13:30,993 --> 00:13:32,075
You think this is
a hot car business?
302
00:13:32,078 --> 00:13:34,179
Give me an order,
I get it stolen?
303
00:13:34,181 --> 00:13:36,848
Suppose we get a warrant,
Mr. Kleinman,
304
00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:38,917
and we do
an inventory?
305
00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:40,451
Think we'll find
stolen goods?
306
00:13:40,453 --> 00:13:42,453
From a soap opera
studio maybe?
307
00:13:42,455 --> 00:13:43,988
I'd never accept...
308
00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:46,925
You want us to start checking?
309
00:13:46,927 --> 00:13:49,861
You're starting to make me
a little impatient.
310
00:13:49,863 --> 00:13:51,863
Voorman.
311
00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:53,865
Tim Voorman.
312
00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:56,000
He works at the Club Vivant.
313
00:13:56,002 --> 00:13:58,102
ANNOUNCER:
Ladies and gentlemen,
Tim Voorman.
314
00:13:58,104 --> 00:13:59,604
CERRETA:
Mr. Voorman?
315
00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:01,840
Sergeant Cerreta,
Detective Logan.
316
00:14:01,842 --> 00:14:05,143
Very impressive.
317
00:14:05,144 --> 00:14:08,445
Louie Kleinman says you ordered
Lucy Neven's intimate apparel.
318
00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:11,916
You think I was involved with...
319
00:14:11,918 --> 00:14:14,953
Yeah, well, I also ordered
Joan Collins's costumes.
320
00:14:14,955 --> 00:14:17,088
They help me get into character.
321
00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:18,556
And they fit you?
322
00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:21,209
Well, I'm very petite.
323
00:14:21,210 --> 00:14:23,861
Mr. Voorman, Thursday night,
did you take a walk in the park?
324
00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:25,430
I don't believe this.
325
00:14:25,432 --> 00:14:26,431
I was here.
326
00:14:26,433 --> 00:14:28,533
Two shows-- 8:00 and 10:00.
327
00:14:32,873 --> 00:14:35,640
You happen to leave
between shows?
328
00:14:35,642 --> 00:14:38,109
Do you have any idea
how long it takes
329
00:14:38,111 --> 00:14:39,510
to put on this face?
330
00:14:39,512 --> 00:14:41,646
And contrary
to what you might think,
331
00:14:41,648 --> 00:14:44,182
I don't go out in public
in drag.
332
00:14:44,184 --> 00:14:45,650
I do this for a living.
333
00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:47,118
CERRETA:
This isn't
your stage act,
334
00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,519
so you can pack in
the attitude.
335
00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:50,588
Do you have any witnesses
who saw you here?
336
00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:54,125
What's the mystery?
337
00:14:54,127 --> 00:14:55,660
I got a guy from Jersey
338
00:14:55,662 --> 00:14:58,663
who sees my Lucy act
six nights a week.
339
00:14:58,665 --> 00:15:01,065
One guy,
he wants to talk with Lucy
340
00:15:01,067 --> 00:15:03,101
about the plot on the show.
341
00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:05,570
Another one,
a real weirdo,
342
00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:06,671
buys my Lucy dress.
343
00:15:06,673 --> 00:15:08,072
Who attacked her?
344
00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:09,073
One of them.
345
00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:10,575
Who bought the dress?
346
00:15:10,577 --> 00:15:12,510
Out of his mind.
347
00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:13,678
He loved Lucy.
348
00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,280
He wanted to be with her.
349
00:15:15,282 --> 00:15:16,681
Offers 250.
350
00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:18,283
I thought he was kidding.
351
00:15:18,285 --> 00:15:19,684
500-- I said no.
352
00:15:19,686 --> 00:15:21,019
1,000...
353
00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:23,488
I didn't want to sell it, but...
354
00:15:23,490 --> 00:15:25,089
he scared me a little.
355
00:15:25,091 --> 00:15:26,557
You got the name?
356
00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:29,494
He didn't ask for a receipt.
357
00:15:29,496 --> 00:15:31,663
Mr. Webster? Hi.
358
00:15:31,665 --> 00:15:34,532
This is Joe Harris
from the Club Vivant.
359
00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:36,034
Mr. Nichols?
360
00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:37,702
Sam Jones, the Club Vivant.
361
00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:40,204
Mr. Voorman...
he'd like to buy back
362
00:15:40,206 --> 00:15:41,706
that dress he sold you.
363
00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:44,175
The dress you bought
from Tim Voorman...
364
00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:45,944
Okay. Sorry.
365
00:15:45,946 --> 00:15:47,278
Thank you.
366
00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,613
Sorry to bother you.
367
00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,615
We thought
the letters were bad.
368
00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:52,016
They're worse
369
00:15:52,018 --> 00:15:53,151
in person.
370
00:15:53,153 --> 00:15:55,053
Hello? Jesse Unger, please.
371
00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:57,722
Could you give me
his work number then?
372
00:15:57,724 --> 00:15:59,223
Thank you.
373
00:15:59,225 --> 00:16:00,658
Mr. Markson? Hi.
374
00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:03,728
This is Sam Jones
from the Club Vivant.
375
00:16:03,730 --> 00:16:05,697
Mr. Unger? Yeah, I'll wait.
376
00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:08,733
That Lucy Neven dress
you bought from Tim Voorman?
377
00:16:08,735 --> 00:16:11,569
Well, he would like...
378
00:16:11,571 --> 00:16:12,737
Sorry to bother you.
379
00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:14,172
Mr. Unger?
380
00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:16,708
Yeah, this is Joe Harris,
Club Vivant.
381
00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:19,610
You know, Mr. Voorman
would like to buy back
382
00:16:19,612 --> 00:16:21,012
his Lucy Neven dress.
383
00:16:21,014 --> 00:16:22,146
Uh-huh.
384
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,247
Oh. Yeah.
385
00:16:23,249 --> 00:16:24,615
Well, certainly.
386
00:16:24,617 --> 00:16:25,717
Well, thank you.
387
00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:30,722
Mr. Unger
wants to keep his dress.
388
00:16:30,724 --> 00:16:33,624
Really?
389
00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:34,592
I can't stop.
390
00:16:34,594 --> 00:16:36,728
This has to be done by tonight.
391
00:16:36,730 --> 00:16:38,663
LOGAN:
Did you buy the dress?
392
00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,631
Yes, I did--
for my collection.
393
00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:43,735
I needed something special.
394
00:16:43,737 --> 00:16:46,037
Terrible, Lucy dying, hmm?
395
00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:47,705
Oh, Lucy didn't die, Jesse.
396
00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:49,007
No. On the show.
397
00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:50,775
They had to get rid of her.
398
00:16:50,777 --> 00:16:52,610
Thursday night,
at your girlfriend's--
399
00:16:52,612 --> 00:16:54,645
what time did you leave?
400
00:16:54,647 --> 00:16:56,647
I already told you.
401
00:16:56,649 --> 00:16:57,749
About 10:00.
402
00:16:57,751 --> 00:17:01,686
Is your girlfriend Sandy
at home today?
403
00:17:01,688 --> 00:17:03,287
No, she's not.
404
00:17:03,289 --> 00:17:04,689
She's working.
405
00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:06,657
You've got the wrong idea.
406
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:09,260
Jesse is Lucy's scrapbook.
407
00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:10,695
It's a hobby.
408
00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:13,664
LOGAN:
Does that include
buying her dress?
409
00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:15,666
You don't understand.
410
00:17:15,668 --> 00:17:18,403
Well, you'll think I'm crazy.
411
00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:20,671
We went to
a Tina Turner concert--
412
00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:22,140
Jess and me--
413
00:17:22,142 --> 00:17:23,574
I wanted her autograph.
414
00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:25,676
We waited in the cold two hours.
415
00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:27,812
But an autograph
is not a dress.
416
00:17:27,814 --> 00:17:30,081
Lucy, to me she's boring.
417
00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:31,349
So what?
418
00:17:31,351 --> 00:17:33,651
Jesse doesn't like Tina Turner.
419
00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:36,621
I mean, didn't you
ever collect anybody?
420
00:17:36,623 --> 00:17:39,257
My wife has a lot
of Rosemary Clooney records.
421
00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:40,258
Who?
422
00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:41,659
LOGAN:
Miss Reynolds,
423
00:17:41,661 --> 00:17:43,694
Mr. Unger left
at 10:00 p.m.?
424
00:17:43,696 --> 00:17:46,264
What you're thinking
about Jesse, it couldn't be.
425
00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:48,433
Look, are you sure
about the time?
426
00:17:48,435 --> 00:17:50,735
It might have been earlier.
427
00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:52,437
Maybe a quarter of.
428
00:17:52,439 --> 00:17:55,640
Um, we had an argument.
429
00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:58,443
He wanted me
to try the dress on.
430
00:17:58,445 --> 00:18:01,179
I didn't think it was right.
431
00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:03,281
Quarter to 10:00? 10:00?
Come on.
432
00:18:03,283 --> 00:18:05,249
15 minutes makes
a difference?
433
00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:08,419
15 minutes gives
him more time
to get to Lucy's.
434
00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,288
Sandy's on 97th Street.
435
00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:14,292
Jesse's home, 57th Street,
30 to 45 minutes later.
436
00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:17,161
And Lucy lives in between
at 65th Street.
437
00:18:17,163 --> 00:18:20,698
It's enough time, barely, if he
knew when Lucy walked the dog.
438
00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:23,201
He stopped at Lucy's
on his way home to what?
439
00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:24,702
Talk to her?
440
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:25,770
Hey, you're the one
who talked to him.
441
00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:27,371
He look goofy to you?
442
00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:30,108
Seemed fine,
but who can tell anymore?
443
00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:31,876
31 years old,
he still lives at Daddy's.
444
00:18:31,878 --> 00:18:33,277
Also, he sprang
445
00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:35,646
for 1,000 bucks
to buy Lucy's dress.
446
00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:38,349
What about his arrival time
at home?
447
00:18:38,351 --> 00:18:40,284
How solid is that alibi?
448
00:18:42,422 --> 00:18:45,823
I have friends in the fashion world.
449
00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:48,493
Is something wrong with that?
450
00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,428
You got your son his job.
451
00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:53,498
I arranged an interview,
they offered him the job.
452
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:54,899
The woman's dress.
453
00:18:54,901 --> 00:18:56,467
That's $1,000.
454
00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:59,904
Your son can afford that
on the job he has?
455
00:18:59,906 --> 00:19:01,439
Jesse's interests--
456
00:19:01,441 --> 00:19:04,909
he doesn't have to be
like everybody else.
457
00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:08,479
Following an actress's career--
it's harmless.
458
00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,281
Up to a point.
459
00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:11,749
Mr. Unger,
460
00:19:11,751 --> 00:19:13,217
when Jesse arrived home,
461
00:19:13,219 --> 00:19:14,919
your housekeeper said
it was 10:30.
462
00:19:14,921 --> 00:19:15,920
You said 10:00.
463
00:19:15,922 --> 00:19:18,456
My son has problems.
464
00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:21,526
Violence is not one of them.
465
00:19:21,528 --> 00:19:22,527
Sandy was upset.
466
00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:23,928
The dress--
467
00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:27,298
I wanted to see, if she
has such a good figure,
468
00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,699
how she'd look in it.
469
00:19:28,701 --> 00:19:30,701
CERRETA:
We can clear this up.
470
00:19:30,703 --> 00:19:32,537
You left Sandy's
apartment at 10:00?
471
00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:33,504
Mm-hmm.
472
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:34,805
How'd you get home?
473
00:19:34,807 --> 00:19:35,940
I walked.
474
00:19:35,942 --> 00:19:38,543
40 blocks
in a half an hour?
475
00:19:38,545 --> 00:19:40,444
You must be a marathon walker.
476
00:19:40,446 --> 00:19:42,813
Maybe I took a cab.
477
00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:44,282
Well, you know
what we ought to do?
478
00:19:44,284 --> 00:19:45,950
We ought to go down
to the precinct.
479
00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:47,518
We'll talk
the whole thing over.
480
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,489
We'll call the cab company,
get the whole thing settled.
481
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:54,425
Um...
482
00:19:54,427 --> 00:19:55,526
Okay, fine.
483
00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:56,527
Sure.
484
00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:57,428
Good.
485
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:59,964
Look, I'm sorry about Lucy.
486
00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:01,432
But hurting her?
487
00:20:01,434 --> 00:20:03,434
No. I loved watching her.
488
00:20:03,436 --> 00:20:05,836
I have a little television
at work.
489
00:20:05,838 --> 00:20:09,574
We want to remind you that
you're entitled to a lawyer.
490
00:20:09,576 --> 00:20:10,975
Sandy will tell you.
491
00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:13,978
Olivia, she said
that I came home at 10:30.
492
00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,813
I would never hurt Lucy.
493
00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,548
Will you excuse me?
494
00:20:23,523 --> 00:20:26,490
He's in tooth fairy land
and he's scared.
495
00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:29,527
The hospital says Lucy
has some paralysis.
496
00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:31,395
She still has
blurred vision,
497
00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,397
but they will
bring her over.
498
00:20:33,399 --> 00:20:36,234
Do you think
you can get this guy
499
00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:37,902
to volunteer
for a lineup?
500
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:39,470
I don't know.
501
00:20:39,472 --> 00:20:40,871
What if he won't?
502
00:20:40,873 --> 00:20:42,473
Heck if I know.
503
00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:43,541
Okay.
504
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,581
Jesse, would you like to be
in a lineup?
505
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,985
If nobody identifies you,
you go back to work.
506
00:20:53,987 --> 00:20:55,353
A lineup?
507
00:20:55,355 --> 00:20:56,520
For who?
508
00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:57,888
Lucy Neven.
509
00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:21,379
Take your time.
510
00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:23,047
There's no hurry.
511
00:21:32,659 --> 00:21:34,592
( Neven gasping )
512
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:36,360
Oh, my God!
513
00:21:36,362 --> 00:21:38,929
That's... that's him.
514
00:21:38,931 --> 00:21:43,367
He stopped me on the street
a couple of times.
515
00:21:43,369 --> 00:21:44,535
Which one is he?
516
00:21:44,537 --> 00:21:45,536
Hmm?
517
00:21:45,538 --> 00:21:50,074
It's number four.
518
00:21:50,076 --> 00:21:52,576
He said that he
needed me.
519
00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:56,447
Let's get the video camera.
520
00:21:56,449 --> 00:21:59,317
One more shot at him
and he's going to talk.
521
00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:00,551
Yeah.
522
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,988
Your dad will be here soon.
523
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:06,390
You don't have to talk now.
524
00:22:06,392 --> 00:22:07,625
Was Lucy here?
525
00:22:07,627 --> 00:22:10,695
She says she saw you that night.
526
00:22:15,001 --> 00:22:17,635
( knocking )
527
00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:28,512
Had these on him
when he was booked.
528
00:22:41,427 --> 00:22:43,427
Lucy's ring, Jesse.
529
00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:51,469
Her medal.
530
00:22:55,608 --> 00:22:58,376
Where did you
get these?
531
00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,913
She wouldn't listen.
532
00:23:02,915 --> 00:23:05,549
I just wanted to talk.
533
00:23:07,086 --> 00:23:09,987
She told me
to leave her alone.
534
00:23:09,989 --> 00:23:12,723
I didn't want to hurt her.
535
00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:14,692
God, her eyes!
536
00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:19,930
If you saw her eyes.
537
00:23:19,932 --> 00:23:23,467
She walked right by me.
538
00:23:23,469 --> 00:23:26,437
She didn't say anything.
539
00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:30,508
I tried to tell her
how I need her.
540
00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:33,577
I didn't want to hurt her.
541
00:23:36,649 --> 00:23:40,684
She just got tangled up
in her dog leash,
542
00:23:40,686 --> 00:23:43,120
and I went to help her,
543
00:23:43,122 --> 00:23:45,723
and she started hitting at me,
544
00:23:45,725 --> 00:23:48,426
and the dog was barking,
545
00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:52,997
and I just wanted to talk
to her.
546
00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:54,465
That's all.
547
00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:56,467
I just wanted to talk to her.
548
00:23:58,438 --> 00:24:01,539
OLIVET:
How long have you been aware
of Lucy Neven?
549
00:24:01,541 --> 00:24:03,974
JESSE:
Ever since I can remember.
550
00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:05,075
Come on, Ben.
551
00:24:05,077 --> 00:24:06,977
You saw that tape.
552
00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:09,513
This guy's got toys
in the attic.
553
00:24:09,515 --> 00:24:13,083
Is he competent enough
to help you with his case?
554
00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:15,886
I guarantee you,
he didn't know
what he was doing.
555
00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:17,988
That's not the issue here.
556
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:19,957
Can he help you
defend him?
557
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:22,059
Maybe,
but he's still bonkers.
558
00:24:22,061 --> 00:24:24,161
He didn't know
what he was doing
when he attacked her.
559
00:24:24,163 --> 00:24:27,465
You don't know that,
and neither do I.
560
00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:30,067
Let's first see
if he can stand trial.
561
00:24:30,069 --> 00:24:32,069
I've seen trials on TV.
562
00:24:32,071 --> 00:24:33,804
Lucy was in one.
563
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,940
OLIVET:
What happens at a trial?
564
00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:37,875
Why are you asking me that?
565
00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:40,244
We both know they decide
if you're guilty.
566
00:24:40,246 --> 00:24:42,513
What does your lawyer do?
567
00:24:42,515 --> 00:24:45,816
He tries to defend me from...
568
00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:48,953
He keeps me from going to jail.
569
00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:51,789
Why would you go to jail, Jesse?
570
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:54,124
Sorry, Dr. Olivet.
Off-limits.
571
00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:56,527
I'm not asking about the crime,
Dr. Mandel.
572
00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:59,897
I'm asking if he understands
why people go to jail.
573
00:24:59,899 --> 00:25:01,232
Because they break the law.
574
00:25:01,234 --> 00:25:03,601
Hurting somebody,
is that breaking the law?
575
00:25:03,603 --> 00:25:06,270
These are stupid questions.
576
00:25:06,272 --> 00:25:08,272
Jesse, please...
577
00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:11,275
Is it wrong to hurt somebody?
578
00:25:11,277 --> 00:25:14,044
I just wanted to talk to her.
579
00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:16,247
That's all.
580
00:25:18,885 --> 00:25:20,818
STONE:
what is the argument?
581
00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:23,187
Mr. Unger understands
the legal process.
582
00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:25,022
He babbled
a confession.
583
00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:26,924
That doesn't
give you a problem?
584
00:25:26,926 --> 00:25:28,125
He was frightened;
that does not mean
585
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:30,027
he's not competent
to stand trial.
586
00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,229
He does not understand
the criminal justice system.
587
00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:33,931
He knows what a trial is.
588
00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:35,132
Hey, hey, this isn't
a free-for-all.
589
00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:37,902
I ask the questions.
590
00:25:37,904 --> 00:25:39,603
You honestly contend,
591
00:25:39,605 --> 00:25:42,039
he can't give you
pertinent facts?
592
00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:45,042
Judge, he is suffering
a neurotic denial,
593
00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:47,311
and it's hard
to get any information
594
00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,179
out of him at all.
595
00:25:49,181 --> 00:25:52,082
I'll read
the doctors' reports again.
596
00:25:52,084 --> 00:25:54,952
Meantime,
Mr. Unger stays at Rikers.
597
00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:58,589
MAN:
Come on, Lucy,
you can do it.
598
00:25:58,591 --> 00:26:00,324
Right to the end.
599
00:26:00,326 --> 00:26:03,060
Keep walking.
600
00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:05,596
It's a piece of cake.
601
00:26:08,568 --> 00:26:11,635
STONE:
They say if we go to trial,
602
00:26:11,637 --> 00:26:13,938
that you'll be able
to testify.
603
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,306
It's your choice.
604
00:26:15,308 --> 00:26:17,641
Don't force yourself, honey.
605
00:26:17,643 --> 00:26:24,949
( raspy-voiced: )
I'll testify if I have to crawl
into the courtroom.
606
00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:26,951
He came after me before.
607
00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:29,353
He called the house
several times.
608
00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:31,689
Somehow, he got the number.
609
00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:33,958
If he doesn't go to jail...
610
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,026
( violent coughing )
611
00:26:51,677 --> 00:26:53,143
Lucy...
612
00:26:53,145 --> 00:26:57,681
I'll do everything I can
to make sure that never happens.
613
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,353
Schreiber says
we can indict him.
614
00:27:02,355 --> 00:27:05,055
He's competent
to stand trial.
615
00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:09,994
Does that serve justice?
616
00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:12,162
Jesse Unger on trial?
In prison?
617
00:27:12,164 --> 00:27:14,898
If he's responsible
for his actions,
618
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,067
yes, I think
justice is served.
619
00:27:17,069 --> 00:27:18,969
Mr. Stone, my son,
620
00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:21,705
after he lost
his mother...
621
00:27:21,707 --> 00:27:23,340
you can't imagine.
622
00:27:23,342 --> 00:27:25,342
I tried to help him.
623
00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:27,911
Why didn't you seek
professional help?
624
00:27:27,913 --> 00:27:30,114
He's not like
other people.
625
00:27:30,116 --> 00:27:32,416
He never
seemed dangerous.
626
00:27:32,418 --> 00:27:35,686
Jack, it's your meeting.
627
00:27:35,688 --> 00:27:36,987
Reconsider going to trial, Ben.
628
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:38,922
Work out some kind of treatment
for him.
629
00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:41,659
If they can protect Lucy Neven
from him...
630
00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:43,127
You know that they can't.
631
00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:44,428
A jury can.
632
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:46,430
All I've got to do
633
00:27:46,432 --> 00:27:50,167
is prove he was insane
at the moment he attacked her.
634
00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:52,770
Not a second before,
not a second after.
635
00:27:52,772 --> 00:27:56,206
I've tried a lot of these cases,
Ben; you haven't.
636
00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:58,976
I'm a quick study.
637
00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:00,978
Why is Gaffney so confident?
638
00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:03,313
Insanity defenses
are not easy to win.
639
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:05,049
Olivet will testify
he's not delusional.
640
00:28:05,051 --> 00:28:06,984
What more can we do?
641
00:28:06,986 --> 00:28:08,986
"Delusional"-- fancy word.
642
00:28:08,988 --> 00:28:12,122
You might as well say
"subordinated debenture."
643
00:28:12,124 --> 00:28:15,025
A jury knows crazy
and not crazy, Paul.
644
00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:17,394
They don't know legally crazy.
645
00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:20,030
You know
what really worries me--
646
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,332
I make my best case
to prove he's sane.
647
00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:23,801
We lose.
648
00:28:23,803 --> 00:28:26,070
He goes to a hospital.
649
00:28:26,072 --> 00:28:28,005
I have to turn 180°
650
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:31,008
and argue he is not sane
so they keep him there.
651
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:32,409
It's no-win.
652
00:28:32,411 --> 00:28:34,378
Maybe we make a deal-- assault.
653
00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:37,247
for a couple of years--
Bad risk-- he goes away
654
00:28:37,249 --> 00:28:40,984
as soon as he gets out,
he could kill that woman.
655
00:28:40,986 --> 00:28:43,053
( phone buzzing )
656
00:28:47,493 --> 00:28:49,760
Mm-hmm.
657
00:28:51,363 --> 00:28:53,097
Lucy Neven.
658
00:28:53,099 --> 00:28:55,099
Better talk to her.
659
00:28:55,101 --> 00:28:57,234
How could they
let him mail it?
660
00:28:57,236 --> 00:28:59,403
Why didn't
somebody stop him?
661
00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:01,338
"I never wanted to hurt you.
662
00:29:01,340 --> 00:29:03,140
"I had to bring you close.
663
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,008
"We're the same person.
664
00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:07,044
We'll always be close."
665
00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:09,747
I'm sorry.
This shouldn't have happened.
666
00:29:09,749 --> 00:29:11,281
They put a watch
667
00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:13,117
on his mail today.
668
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,753
He said we're the same person.
669
00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:18,122
He sounds crazier than ever.
670
00:29:18,124 --> 00:29:19,823
He's shrewder than ever.
671
00:29:19,825 --> 00:29:21,325
He wants to sound crazy.
672
00:29:21,327 --> 00:29:24,394
Do we have to turn this over
to Gaffney?
673
00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:28,265
STONE:
We don't turn it over,
he'll get a subpoena.
674
00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:31,034
Jesse will tell him
he sent the letter.
675
00:29:31,036 --> 00:29:34,037
They're going to use it
to show how crazy he is.
676
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:35,839
That's what he wants.
677
00:29:37,409 --> 00:29:39,543
And after reading a report
678
00:29:39,545 --> 00:29:41,278
of his personal history?
679
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,080
I examined Mr. Unger.
680
00:29:43,082 --> 00:29:45,482
Did you reach any conclusions
about his mental condition?
681
00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:47,451
Yes, I have.
682
00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:50,788
Mr. Unger has personality
and character disorders.
683
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:52,790
He's obsessive-compulsive,
684
00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,892
with signs
of extreme depression.
685
00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:57,561
Does this mean
he is incapable
of understanding
686
00:29:57,563 --> 00:30:00,063
the consequences of his actions?
687
00:30:00,065 --> 00:30:04,468
No. It means he's unhappy,
and in some ways dysfunctional.
688
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:06,520
In your expert opinion,
689
00:30:06,521 --> 00:30:08,571
does Mr. Unger suffer from
any condition that would impair
690
00:30:08,574 --> 00:30:11,175
his ability
to know right from wrong?
691
00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:12,876
Despite his emotional problems,
692
00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:15,479
in my opinion, Mr. Unger
has a complete understanding
693
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:18,348
of the consequences
of his actions.
694
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:20,918
Thank you. No further questions.
695
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,586
Dr. Olivet,
696
00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:27,457
you spent three hours
talking to Mr. Unger.
697
00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:30,394
Do you think
that's sufficient time
698
00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,463
to make a judgment
on his mental health?
699
00:30:33,465 --> 00:30:34,464
Yes, I do.
700
00:30:34,466 --> 00:30:36,533
Admirable.
701
00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:40,871
So, you are telling this court
with absolute assurance
702
00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:44,208
that Mr. Unger
did not have an episode
703
00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:46,210
in which he did not know
704
00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,512
the consequences
of his behavior.
705
00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:52,349
In my opinion, Mr. Unger
knows right from wrong.
706
00:30:52,351 --> 00:30:55,352
He told me
he'd been watching me
707
00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:58,222
because he knew I would...
708
00:30:58,224 --> 00:31:02,226
I would love him
if only I met him.
709
00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:06,330
He was very excited,
710
00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:10,367
so I tried
to keep him calm,
711
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:13,503
and then I tried to get away.
712
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:15,873
He told me to stop,
713
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,875
and when I didn't,
714
00:31:17,877 --> 00:31:19,943
he attacked me.
715
00:31:22,147 --> 00:31:24,648
Miss Neven,
prior to this attack,
716
00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:28,151
had you ever seen
the defendant before?
717
00:31:28,153 --> 00:31:31,989
He accosted me on the street
several times.
718
00:31:31,991 --> 00:31:35,659
I don't remember
how many.
719
00:31:35,661 --> 00:31:39,963
He told me that he had
called me on the phone.
720
00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:42,165
What is your profession?
721
00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:45,903
I... I was an actress.
722
00:31:45,905 --> 00:31:47,671
You were an actress?
723
00:31:47,673 --> 00:31:51,608
You don't expect to be able
to continue your career?
724
00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:53,210
Objection-- relevance.
725
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:54,678
The extent
of her injuries
726
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,514
is relevant to
the attempted murder charge.
727
00:31:57,516 --> 00:31:59,549
Overruled.
728
00:31:59,551 --> 00:32:02,419
The witness will answer.
729
00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:06,023
I'll be happy
if I'm able to walk.
730
00:32:08,527 --> 00:32:11,361
Thank you. No further questions.
731
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:14,498
Mr. Gaffney?
732
00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:26,009
I have no questions
of this witness.
733
00:32:28,547 --> 00:32:30,447
Olivet was convincing.
734
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,482
Convincing isn't the point.
735
00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:34,217
Did they understand?
736
00:32:34,219 --> 00:32:36,353
Crazy versus legally crazy.
737
00:32:44,997 --> 00:32:46,997
Voices, delusions...
738
00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:48,699
Convenient.
739
00:32:48,701 --> 00:32:52,436
The one illness that wins
insanity defense.
740
00:32:52,438 --> 00:32:54,671
You read Mandel's transcript.
741
00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:57,274
Did Jesse talk
about voices then?
742
00:32:57,276 --> 00:32:59,576
Mandel interviewed him
again.
743
00:32:59,578 --> 00:33:01,311
Yeah, I wonder why.
744
00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:03,613
Gaffney--
would he coach his client?
745
00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:05,382
It's hard to believe.
746
00:33:05,384 --> 00:33:06,750
It's not his style.
747
00:33:06,752 --> 00:33:10,053
I'll tell you one voice
Jesse Unger is hearing--
748
00:33:10,055 --> 00:33:13,223
the voice telling him
how not to get convicted.
749
00:33:14,059 --> 00:33:15,625
Listen to this:
750
00:33:15,627 --> 00:33:18,662
"Mandel: Why didn't you tell me
you heard voices?
751
00:33:18,664 --> 00:33:21,131
"Jesse: The voice said not to.
752
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:22,599
My father said I should."
753
00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:25,168
"My father said I should."
754
00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:28,138
Your interviews-- no voices?
755
00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:30,374
Is he delusional?
756
00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:32,709
Am I 100% sure?
757
00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:34,177
99.
758
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:35,779
I'd prefer 100.
759
00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:37,965
Never happens.
760
00:33:37,966 --> 00:33:40,150
Somebody told dad
what would get Jesse off.
761
00:33:40,152 --> 00:33:42,119
Dad told Jesse.
762
00:33:42,121 --> 00:33:44,688
Voices are
a very specific symptom.
763
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:45,689
Mandel.
764
00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:47,124
Intentionally?
765
00:33:47,126 --> 00:33:49,126
I doubt it. What about Gaffney?
766
00:33:49,128 --> 00:33:53,096
Paul read the transcripts
of his other cases.
767
00:33:53,098 --> 00:33:55,032
But not all of them.
768
00:33:55,034 --> 00:33:57,401
Well, dig up the ones
you haven't read,
769
00:33:57,403 --> 00:34:01,171
and find out how crazy
his other clients really were.
770
00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:05,175
After Jesse's mother died,
771
00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:08,045
he couldn't concentrate.
772
00:34:08,047 --> 00:34:10,747
He used to say
he was going crazy.
773
00:34:10,749 --> 00:34:15,452
What was he
most concerned about?
774
00:34:15,454 --> 00:34:18,321
He thought the world
was going to blow up.
775
00:34:18,323 --> 00:34:21,124
What were some
of his other problems?
776
00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:27,197
He said he heard voices
in his head.
777
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,199
Like a radio.
778
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:31,334
Thank you.
779
00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:38,375
Mr. Unger,
780
00:34:38,377 --> 00:34:40,677
when exactly
781
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,346
did Jesse tell you
he heard voices?
782
00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:46,817
I think maybe
in his sophomore year
783
00:34:46,819 --> 00:34:48,385
in high school.
784
00:34:48,387 --> 00:34:51,121
It could have been earlier,
maybe later.
785
00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:52,756
I can't remember.
786
00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:56,426
What did he say
these voices told him?
787
00:34:58,831 --> 00:35:01,098
I can't remember.
788
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,867
You remember he heard voices.
789
00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:06,169
I do. Yes, I do.
790
00:35:06,171 --> 00:35:08,138
Did you seek
791
00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:09,873
psychiatric care for your son
792
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:11,208
at this time?
793
00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:15,846
No.
794
00:35:15,848 --> 00:35:17,414
Why not?
795
00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:19,850
Well...
796
00:35:19,852 --> 00:35:22,886
I'm not sure why I didn't.
797
00:35:22,888 --> 00:35:25,856
That's odd.
798
00:35:25,858 --> 00:35:28,158
Thank you.
799
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,129
Mr. Unger suffers from
processive disintegration.
800
00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:35,899
One of the symptoms
is "command" hallucinations--
801
00:35:35,901 --> 00:35:38,401
voices telling him
to do things.
802
00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:41,138
Now, Dr. Mandel,
803
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:46,143
Jesse Unger told you
that he heard voices
804
00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:50,147
telling him to kill
Lucy Neven.
805
00:35:50,149 --> 00:35:51,381
Would that mean
806
00:35:51,383 --> 00:35:53,850
he was out of control
of his actions?
807
00:35:53,852 --> 00:35:55,886
In my opinion, yes.
808
00:35:55,888 --> 00:35:58,288
Mr. Unger is often guided
809
00:35:58,290 --> 00:36:00,490
by an overpowering voice
810
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:02,259
he believes to be real.
811
00:36:02,261 --> 00:36:03,927
Thank you, Doctor.
812
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:10,767
"Processive disintegration."
813
00:36:13,305 --> 00:36:17,174
Is that a recognized
medical diagnosis?
814
00:36:17,176 --> 00:36:21,344
It's my language
for a combination of disorders.
815
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:24,447
So it does not exist
in standard reference works?
816
00:36:24,449 --> 00:36:25,882
Yes, that's right.
817
00:36:25,884 --> 00:36:29,819
Now, you testified
you interviewed Jesse twice.
818
00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:32,556
Did he mention hearing voices
in the first interview?
819
00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:34,424
No, he was afraid to.
820
00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:37,928
So he never mentioned voices
until you brought it up?
821
00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:38,929
Yes.
822
00:36:38,931 --> 00:36:39,763
Thank you.
823
00:36:39,765 --> 00:36:40,497
But...
824
00:36:40,499 --> 00:36:43,233
Thank you, Doctor.
825
00:36:43,235 --> 00:36:45,335
They're playing
with the system.
826
00:36:45,337 --> 00:36:46,870
Lying? All of them?
827
00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:50,473
You think the shrink
coached them?
828
00:36:50,475 --> 00:36:53,376
Maybe.
829
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:54,945
Gaffney.
830
00:36:54,947 --> 00:36:57,280
You don't think a lawyer
would do it.
831
00:36:57,282 --> 00:36:58,515
Olivet doesn't think
a shrink would do it.
832
00:36:58,517 --> 00:36:59,849
We're right back
where we started.
833
00:36:59,851 --> 00:37:01,384
He goes to a hospital.
834
00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:02,886
He says he's cured.
835
00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,988
He doesn't hear voices anymore.
836
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:07,424
He's back on the street,
837
00:37:07,425 --> 00:37:09,859
faster than Lucy Neven
can change her phone number.
838
00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:11,428
( knock at door )
839
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:13,430
Finished Gaffney's cases
840
00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:16,233
all the way back
to '79.
841
00:37:16,235 --> 00:37:19,970
13 insanity defenses,
seven acquittals.
842
00:37:19,972 --> 00:37:22,539
Three of them,
the defendants
were delusional
843
00:37:22,541 --> 00:37:24,407
after
they started trial.
844
00:37:24,409 --> 00:37:25,942
It's not a clear pattern,
845
00:37:25,944 --> 00:37:28,411
but I grant you,
it's questionable.
846
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:29,813
STONE:
Call Mr. Unger.
847
00:37:29,815 --> 00:37:31,381
Say if he agrees,
848
00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:34,451
we'd like to meet
with him alone.
849
00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:38,255
That's absurd.
850
00:37:38,257 --> 00:37:41,258
Do you think I would lie
under oath?
851
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:43,893
As a parent, yes,
I think you would.
852
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:46,396
You want my son in jail.
853
00:37:46,398 --> 00:37:48,598
You want me in jail too?
854
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,268
Do you have children,
Mr. Stone?
855
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:53,036
Are they healthy?
856
00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:55,472
Happy?
857
00:37:55,474 --> 00:37:58,642
We all want our children
to be happy.
858
00:37:58,644 --> 00:38:02,879
If not so, at least protected.
859
00:38:02,881 --> 00:38:05,382
My son is sick.
860
00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:08,852
There is no dispute.
861
00:38:08,854 --> 00:38:11,488
Good night.
862
00:38:17,896 --> 00:38:19,462
He had no right
863
00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:21,031
to drag Bill Unger down here.
864
00:38:21,033 --> 00:38:23,366
Mr. Unger was invited.
865
00:38:23,368 --> 00:38:26,303
You wanted him to implicate me
in perjury.
866
00:38:26,305 --> 00:38:27,971
Three cases, your clients
867
00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:30,307
never heard voices
until trial.
868
00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:32,442
Mandel was your shrink
on two of them.
869
00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:34,577
If I wanted to discuss Jesse's
symptoms with his father,
870
00:38:34,579 --> 00:38:35,879
that's my job.
871
00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:37,447
Jack, you're overplaying
your hand.
872
00:38:37,449 --> 00:38:39,349
There's an appearance
of impropriety.
873
00:38:39,351 --> 00:38:43,086
File a complaint with
the disciplinary committee.
874
00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:45,655
The ghost of John Hinckley.
875
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,057
That the problem?
876
00:38:47,059 --> 00:38:48,591
Shoots the President
877
00:38:48,593 --> 00:38:51,661
of the United States
and gets off?
878
00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:54,698
You're desperate,
aren't you?
879
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,733
You want out of this?
880
00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:58,668
I'll plead it.
881
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,470
Assault one.
882
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:03,406
Gentlemen,
883
00:39:03,408 --> 00:39:05,075
think about it.
884
00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:11,481
I don't know, Adam.
885
00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:13,917
Jesse Unger could walk.
886
00:39:13,919 --> 00:39:16,686
Gaffney's bluffing with assault.
887
00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:19,956
He'll take manslaughter one,
attempt.
888
00:39:22,761 --> 00:39:25,595
I should talk with Lucy Neven.
889
00:39:26,932 --> 00:39:28,998
What does it mean?
890
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,500
How long?
891
00:39:30,502 --> 00:39:34,971
A minimum of five years,
a maximum of 15.
892
00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:38,775
What do you think?
893
00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:40,777
It's your life,
894
00:39:40,779 --> 00:39:45,382
but honestly, I don't know
what that jury will do.
895
00:39:45,384 --> 00:39:52,655
Is there any way
we can make sure it's 15?
896
00:39:52,657 --> 00:39:55,658
The parole board?
897
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:57,660
We can recommend.
898
00:39:57,662 --> 00:40:00,130
We have no control over them,
899
00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:03,700
and they're just
as unpredictable as juries.
900
00:40:03,702 --> 00:40:06,536
Why me?
901
00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:09,739
I can't give him anything.
902
00:40:13,445 --> 00:40:16,813
I'll take my chances
with the jury
903
00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:19,749
if it's all right with you.
904
00:40:21,653 --> 00:40:24,154
Lucy, the jury...
905
00:40:25,724 --> 00:40:29,426
it may not give you
what you want.
906
00:40:29,428 --> 00:40:34,030
What I want is what I had.
907
00:40:38,804 --> 00:40:42,205
How often do you hear
this voice, Jesse?
908
00:40:42,207 --> 00:40:45,708
She talks to me
when I get confused.
909
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:47,744
It's a woman's voice?
910
00:40:47,746 --> 00:40:49,479
Mm-hmm.
911
00:40:49,481 --> 00:40:51,815
Does the voice
have a name?
912
00:40:51,817 --> 00:40:55,685
No, she's.... she's just there.
913
00:40:55,687 --> 00:40:57,153
What does she tell you?
914
00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:59,856
I can't talk about that.
915
00:40:59,858 --> 00:41:00,857
( clears throat )
916
00:41:00,859 --> 00:41:03,126
GAFFNEY:
Jesse...
917
00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:08,498
did this voice tell you
to hurt Lucy Neven?
918
00:41:10,702 --> 00:41:14,237
She told me that if Lucy
wouldn't love me,
919
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,774
that I had to kill her.
920
00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:23,646
Is this your handwriting?
921
00:41:23,648 --> 00:41:25,715
Mm-hmm.
922
00:41:25,717 --> 00:41:28,585
Did you write this to Lucy
and send it to her?
923
00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:30,587
Yes, I did.
924
00:41:30,589 --> 00:41:33,156
I'd like you to read
from the top,
925
00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:35,792
out loud to the court.
926
00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:39,662
"Dear Lucy,
927
00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:41,798
"I know you understand
I never meant to hurt you.
928
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,800
I wanted to protect you..."
929
00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:45,702
Louder, son.
930
00:41:45,704 --> 00:41:48,671
So everyone can hear.
931
00:41:50,509 --> 00:41:54,644
"I know you understand
I never meant to hurt you.
932
00:41:54,646 --> 00:41:57,714
"I wanted to protect you.
933
00:41:57,716 --> 00:42:00,783
"I know that you care about me.
934
00:42:00,785 --> 00:42:01,918
"I know we could be together.
935
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,220
"I would do anything for you.
936
00:42:04,222 --> 00:42:06,756
"I didn't want to hit you.
937
00:42:06,758 --> 00:42:09,659
I love you."
938
00:42:09,661 --> 00:42:11,694
See, inside we're the same.
939
00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:14,597
We're the same people.
940
00:42:17,536 --> 00:42:19,602
GAFFNEY:
Thank you, Jesse.
941
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,907
Mr. Unger, how old were you
942
00:42:23,909 --> 00:42:26,943
when you first heard
this woman's voice?
943
00:42:26,945 --> 00:42:28,678
I don't remember.
944
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,747
She's always
with me.
945
00:42:30,749 --> 00:42:33,550
And aside from Lucy Neven,
946
00:42:33,552 --> 00:42:35,685
did the voice ask you
947
00:42:35,687 --> 00:42:37,687
to hurt
other people?
948
00:42:37,689 --> 00:42:39,289
I don't remember.
949
00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:41,758
If you had the opportunity,
950
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,694
would you still want to talk
with Lucy Neven?
951
00:42:44,696 --> 00:42:46,129
Uh-huh.
952
00:42:46,131 --> 00:42:48,598
Would you continue
to write to her?
953
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,700
Yes, I'd have to.
954
00:42:50,702 --> 00:42:52,735
STONE:
If you had
the opportunity,
955
00:42:52,737 --> 00:42:55,138
would you pursue
a relationship with her?
956
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,273
Well, I don't know.
957
00:42:57,275 --> 00:42:58,975
Maybe.
958
00:43:00,712 --> 00:43:02,712
Nothing's changed.
959
00:43:02,714 --> 00:43:05,214
STONE:
Nothing's changed?
960
00:43:05,216 --> 00:43:06,783
No.
961
00:43:06,785 --> 00:43:08,751
Nothing.
962
00:43:11,323 --> 00:43:13,790
So, what are you to decide?
963
00:43:13,792 --> 00:43:15,792
In our society,
964
00:43:15,794 --> 00:43:18,695
we make exceptions
for mental illness.
965
00:43:18,697 --> 00:43:20,997
But should that exception
be made
966
00:43:20,999 --> 00:43:24,667
when it endangers the life
of another human being?
967
00:43:24,669 --> 00:43:27,153
And Jesse Unger
968
00:43:27,154 --> 00:43:29,638
has made it perfectly clear that
he will come after Lucy Neven
969
00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:33,776
again and again until he gets
what he wants from her,
970
00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:36,212
and if he can't have her,
971
00:43:36,214 --> 00:43:38,881
he'll make sure
no one else does.
972
00:43:38,883 --> 00:43:41,684
Now, is this obsession insane?
973
00:43:42,988 --> 00:43:46,990
No one can completely know
the mind of another human being.
974
00:43:46,992 --> 00:43:51,628
We can't crawl inside his skin
and see the world as he sees it.
975
00:43:51,630 --> 00:43:53,029
However, we do know
976
00:43:53,031 --> 00:43:56,766
that Jesse Unger
had no documented history
977
00:43:56,768 --> 00:43:59,936
of delusional episodes
prior to this case.
978
00:43:59,938 --> 00:44:04,641
In fact, he made no mention
of delusions or hearing voices
979
00:44:04,643 --> 00:44:06,242
until after his father
980
00:44:06,244 --> 00:44:10,413
had asked for a second
psychiatric evaluation.
981
00:44:10,415 --> 00:44:13,650
Now, under the law,
we human beings
982
00:44:13,652 --> 00:44:16,919
are responsible for our actions
except for one thing:
983
00:44:16,921 --> 00:44:19,756
delusional mental illness.
984
00:44:19,758 --> 00:44:24,260
Jesse Unger's convenient
and last-minute reporting
985
00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:25,928
of this condition
986
00:44:25,930 --> 00:44:28,798
is a responsible act.
987
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,335
He knows,
as clearly as you or I,
988
00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:35,071
that he brutally attacked
Lucy Neven,
989
00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,674
and he knows, just as clearly,
990
00:44:37,676 --> 00:44:41,411
what he has to do
to escape punishment.
991
00:44:41,413 --> 00:44:46,983
Now, he destroyed
Lucy Neven's life.
992
00:44:46,985 --> 00:44:50,386
Hold him responsible for it.
993
00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:56,993
JUDGE:
On the sole count
of the indictment,
994
00:44:56,995 --> 00:44:58,761
attempted murder
in the second degree,
995
00:44:58,763 --> 00:45:00,329
how do you find?
996
00:45:00,331 --> 00:45:02,732
We find
the defendant guilty.
997
00:45:02,734 --> 00:45:05,868
JUDGE:
I thank the jury
for their service.
998
00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:07,770
( gavel bangs )
Court is adjourned.
999
00:45:07,772 --> 00:45:09,405
Sentencing hearing
to be scheduled.
1000
00:45:12,477 --> 00:45:14,744
Thank you.
1001
00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:33,896
Now, you may not be happy.
1002
00:45:33,898 --> 00:45:35,465
Lucy Neven is.
1003
00:45:35,467 --> 00:45:37,400
You know as well as I do
1004
00:45:37,402 --> 00:45:39,001
that the law ought
to be changed.
1005
00:45:39,003 --> 00:45:40,870
Juries are not
psychiatrists.
1006
00:45:40,872 --> 00:45:43,139
He never got the help
he needed, Ben,
1007
00:45:43,141 --> 00:45:45,875
and the jury followed
the only law we've got.
1008
00:45:45,877 --> 00:45:47,477
We're not gods.
1009
00:45:47,479 --> 00:45:50,413
We're not even angels.
1010
00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,148
He should be
in the hospital.
1011
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:54,350
We put him in jail.
1012
00:45:56,121 --> 00:46:00,123
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