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clues to how you can enter space or not

having you have agency all those things

you know this is the things that divide classes

you know and the classes are always

yes that's one of the codes the classes

are always creating new codes

in order to keep people out you know so

if you're not up with but not only

the classes but also you know groups

groups people you know the artists

yeah I've caught constantly inventing you

know styles, yes, and you know and

by you wearing those styles you say

I'm up with it I know what's happening I

recall this character that I created now phone

she stresses in black has a hat

and my glasses and that little movement

when I went to any networking event

sea formal, sea de advertising

Absolutely.

You know, it's so incredible.

This is one of the things I've learned

through having, you know,

you lived all these different lives

and all these migrations, you know,

because every time you enter a new space

in a new country or a new city, you know,

even in my country, San Pedro,

I lived in a lot of different places.

You have to know those things

in order to be able to get in, you know?

So it's cold.

And for me, that's why I love fashion

because I don't use this

so much to look beautiful,

but to be able to say things,

to communicate with people

and be able to open doors

for myself and for others,

because people don't copy you.

You know, people look

at you and they say,

"Oh, that works, you know,

I like it," you know?

But, you know,

they also see the effects with it.

I also notice that when

I see somebody dressed like you,

it tells me, "That's one of mine."

That's right.

So, you know, it's all those things.

It's like identity.

It is, you know, and I change.

Sometimes I want

to look like a collector.

I will wear some clothes

and I look like a collector.

And then people,

certain people will open doors

that maybe wouldn't be

looking at me before,

wouldn't be, you know what I mean?

So it just, you really have to know

what all the different codes

are, you know,

in order to use them.

And they're powerful tools.

Mira, pero...

Espera un momento.

Yeah. Has a beat on it.

You know what I mean?

This wasn't just put there, honey.

That didn't just fall there.

That really had, that's an actual,

somebody's put there.

Yeah, it's, you know, and you have

red and white, you know,

those are all codes,

you know, the language, you know,

for whatever.

So these are codes.

This is why I say colors have codes.

Yea.

And if we don't know them,

you don't recognize them.

But you have to. So that's why when I've

studied studying, you know,

do you know that research, you know, and

in the in voodoo and in the various

and told me and also Haiti and Cuba has

been really important to me

because I've learned

so much. This is universal.

You know, all religions start in Africa.

And when you see something

in Africa, you will see it

in so many other places,

like, for example, the clown.

OK. And the clown in all different

societies is very powerful.

And though in the in the plains, Indians

and, you know, the American

people, they they call them hoyoca.

And the hoyoca is the

fiercest one when nothing else.

That's what you call.

And this moment, this is who we have to

call it by the big clown.

And also they have them in the Greeks.

You know, they have them all all

different religions will have the clown

as being a very important figure.

You know, so, you know, yeah, powerful.

So you start to look it up and you find

out, you know, and I because right now

I'm working a lot with the clown because

I think it is a very powerful figure

that we need right

now. We need the clown.

And as you know, the tradition of clown.

No. And it's the well,

the clown, any any clown

because clowns are all about poking fun.

It's about cops in charity.

It's about turning things upside down

with the whole idea

that, oh, it's a joke.

You know, you could, you know, a clown

can talk to the to the king and laugh.

And ha ha ha. It's a joke.

But they're telling them a truth that

nobody else would be able to tell them.

You know, so the clown

is working all the time.

The clown is in all, you

know, the feudal times.

Any time the clown is

a very powerful figure.

So for me to work with that, you know,

that deity, the clown,

has been really interesting because

I think this is a moment

to bring out the clown.

You know, nobody's there.

Yeah.

Why am I gonna be working at something

that when I get to 50,

there's not gonna be a place for me.

That's right.

You know what I mean?

I haven't thought about that.

So that's why those

examples are so vital,

that to be able to keep doing it,

to be able to show them it can be done,

it's very vital for a community to grow.

A community without examples

is very difficult for it to do.

Charo, gracias por darme un chin,

bendiciones, minhermanite

Bueno, bueno.

Gracias.

Se te quiere.

Gracias por ser un ejemplo.

Es un chin.

Y hacer un ejemplo para nosotros.

Sigue haciendo arte, hasta que no pueda.

Hasta que no pueda.

Yo, bueno, a mí

me vas a tener que quitar.

Yo, hasta con una...

No, y mira, yo he hecho arte.

Hasta cuando yo me rompí la...