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clues to how you can enter space or not
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having you have agency all those things
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you know this is the things that divide classes
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you know and the classes are always
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yes that's one of the codes the classes
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are always creating new codes
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in order to keep people out you know so
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if you're not up with but not only
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the classes but also you know groups
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groups people you know the artists
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yeah I've caught constantly inventing you
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know styles, yes, and you know and
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by you wearing those styles you say
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I'm up with it I know what's happening I
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recall this character that I created now phone
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she stresses in black has a hat
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and my glasses and that little movement
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when I went to any networking event
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sea formal, sea de advertising
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Absolutely.
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You know, it's so incredible.
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This is one of the things I've learned
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through having, you know,
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you lived all these different lives
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and all these migrations, you know,
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because every time you enter a new space
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in a new country or a new city, you know,
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even in my country, San Pedro,
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I lived in a lot of different places.
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You have to know those things
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in order to be able to get in, you know?
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So it's cold.
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And for me, that's why I love fashion
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because I don't use this
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so much to look beautiful,
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but to be able to say things,
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to communicate with people
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and be able to open doors
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for myself and for others,
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because people don't copy you.
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You know, people look
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at you and they say,
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"Oh, that works, you know,
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I like it," you know?
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But, you know,
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they also see the effects with it.
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I also notice that when
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I see somebody dressed like you,
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it tells me, "That's one of mine."
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That's right.
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So, you know, it's all those things.
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It's like identity.
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It is, you know, and I change.
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Sometimes I want
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to look like a collector.
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I will wear some clothes
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and I look like a collector.
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And then people,
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certain people will open doors
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that maybe wouldn't be
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looking at me before,
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wouldn't be, you know what I mean?
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So it just, you really have to know
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what all the different codes
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are, you know,
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in order to use them.
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And they're powerful tools.
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Mira, pero...
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Espera un momento.
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Yeah. Has a beat on it.
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You know what I mean?
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This wasn't just put there, honey.
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That didn't just fall there.
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That really had, that's an actual,
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somebody's put there.
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Yeah, it's, you know, and you have
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red and white, you know,
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those are all codes,
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you know, the language, you know,
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for whatever.
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So these are codes.
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This is why I say colors have codes.
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Yea.
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And if we don't know them,
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you don't recognize them.
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But you have to. So that's why when I've
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studied studying, you know,
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do you know that research, you know, and
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in the in voodoo and in the various
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and told me and also Haiti and Cuba has
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been really important to me
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because I've learned
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so much. This is universal.
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You know, all religions start in Africa.
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And when you see something
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in Africa, you will see it
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in so many other places,
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like, for example, the clown.
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OK. And the clown in all different
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societies is very powerful.
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And though in the in the plains, Indians
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and, you know, the American
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people, they they call them hoyoca.
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And the hoyoca is the
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fiercest one when nothing else.
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That's what you call.
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And this moment, this is who we have to
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call it by the big clown.
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And also they have them in the Greeks.
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You know, they have them all all
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different religions will have the clown
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as being a very important figure.
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You know, so, you know, yeah, powerful.
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So you start to look it up and you find
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out, you know, and I because right now
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I'm working a lot with the clown because
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I think it is a very powerful figure
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that we need right
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now. We need the clown.
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And as you know, the tradition of clown.
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No. And it's the well,
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the clown, any any clown
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because clowns are all about poking fun.
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It's about cops in charity.
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It's about turning things upside down
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with the whole idea
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that, oh, it's a joke.
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You know, you could, you know, a clown
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can talk to the to the king and laugh.
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And ha ha ha. It's a joke.
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But they're telling them a truth that
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nobody else would be able to tell them.
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You know, so the clown
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is working all the time.
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The clown is in all, you
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know, the feudal times.
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Any time the clown is
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a very powerful figure.
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So for me to work with that, you know,
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that deity, the clown,
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has been really interesting because
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I think this is a moment
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to bring out the clown.
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You know, nobody's there.
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Yeah.
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Why am I gonna be working at something
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that when I get to 50,
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there's not gonna be a place for me.
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That's right.
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You know what I mean?
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I haven't thought about that.
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So that's why those
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examples are so vital,
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that to be able to keep doing it,
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to be able to show them it can be done,
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it's very vital for a community to grow.
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A community without examples
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is very difficult for it to do.
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Charo, gracias por darme un chin,
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bendiciones, minhermanite
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Bueno, bueno.
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Gracias.
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Se te quiere.
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Gracias por ser un ejemplo.
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Es un chin.
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Y hacer un ejemplo para nosotros.
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Sigue haciendo arte, hasta que no pueda.
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Hasta que no pueda.
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Yo, bueno, a mí
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me vas a tener que quitar.
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Yo, hasta con una...
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No, y mira, yo he hecho arte.
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Hasta cuando yo me rompí la...
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