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- [Narrator] 150 years ago, the business corporation
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was a relatively insignificant institution.
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Today it is all-pervasive,
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like the church, the monarchy,
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and the Communist Party in other times and places.
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The corporation is today's dominant institution.
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This documentary examines the nature, evolution, impacts,
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and possible futures of the modern business corporation.
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Initially given a narrow legal mandate,
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what has allowed today's corporation
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to achieve such extraordinary power
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and influence over our lives?
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We begin our inquiry
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as scandals threaten to trigger a wide debate
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about the lack of public control over big corporations.
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- I do think there is an overhang
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over the market,
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of distrust.
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This 95%, or some percent,
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huge percentage of the business community are honest
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and reveal all their assets,
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got compensation programs that are balanced,
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but there are some bad apples.
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- [Narrator] The media debate about
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the basic operating principles of the corporate world
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was quickly reduced to a game of follow the leader.
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- I still happen to think the United States
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is the greatest place in the world to invest.
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We have some shake-ups that are going on
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because of a few bad apples.
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(upbeat rock music)
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♪ Some people call me a bad apple ♪
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♪ Well I may be bruised ♪
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♪ But I still taste sweet ♪
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♪ Some people call me a bad apple ♪
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♪ But I may be the sweetest apple on the tree ♪
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- These are not just a bunch of bad apples.
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- This is just a few bad apples.
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- It's not just a few bad apples.
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- We've gotta get rid of the bad apples.
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You can start with Tyco.
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- Bad apples.
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- We know all about Worldcom.
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- Bad apples.
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- Xerox Corporation.
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- Bad apples.
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- Arthur Anderson.
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- Bad apples.
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- Enron, obviously.
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- Bad apples.
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- Kmart corporation.
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- That fruit cart is getting a little more full.
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- I don't think it's just a few apples, unfortunately.
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I think this is the worst crisis of confidence in business.
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- [Narrator] What's wrong with this picture?
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Can't we pick a better metaphor
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to describe the dominant institution of our time?
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(light electronic music)
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Through the voices of CEOs, whistleblowers,
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brokers, gurus and spies, insiders and outsiders,
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we present the corporation as a paradox,
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an institution that creates great wealth
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but causes enormous and often hidden harms.
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(cash register ringing)
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- [Man] I see the corporation as part of a jigsaw
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in society as a whole,
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which if you remove it, the picture's incomplete,
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but equally, if it's the only path,
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then it's not gonna work.
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- [Man] A sports team.
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Some of us are blocking and tackling,
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some of us are running the ball,
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some of us are throwing the ball,
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but we all have a common purpose,
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which is to succeed as an organization.
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- [Man] The corporation's like a family unit.
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People in the corporation work together for a common end.
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- [Man] Like the telephone system,
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it reaches almost everywhere.
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It's extraordinarily powerful,
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it's pretty hard to avoid,
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and it transforms the lives of people,
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I think on balance for the better.
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- The eagle,
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soaring,
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clear-eyed,
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competitive,
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prepared to strike, but not a vulture,
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noble,
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visionary,
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majestic,
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that people can believe in and be inspired by,
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that creates such a lift that it soars.
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I could see that being a good logo
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for the principled company.
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(laughs)
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Okay, guys, enough bullshit!
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(strange electronic music)
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- [Man] Corporations are artificial creations.
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You might say they're monsters
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trying to devour as much profit as possible,
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at anyone's expense.
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(people screaming)
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- [Man] I think of a whale,
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gentle, big fish,
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which could swallow you in an instant.
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- [Woman] Dr. Frankenstein's creation
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has overwhelmed and overpowered him,
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as the corporate form has done with us.
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(scary music)
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- The word corporate gets attached in almost,
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in a pejorative sense to,
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and it gets married with the word agenda.
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And one hears a lot about the corporate agenda,
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as though it is easy,
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as though it is an agenda
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which is trying to take over the world.
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(protesters chanting)
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Personally, I don't use the word corporation.
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I use the word business.
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I will use the word company.
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I'll use the words business community,
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because I think that is a much fairer representation
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than zeroing in on just this word corporation.
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(film roll whirring)
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- [Man] What is a corporation?
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- It's funny that I've taught in a business school
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for as long as I have,
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without ever having been asked so pointedly
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to say what I think a corporation is.
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- [Man] It is one form of business ownership.
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- It's a group of individuals working together
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to serve a variety of objectives,
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the principle one of which is earning
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large, growing, sustained legal returns
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for the people who own the business.
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(light electronic music)
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(helicopter roaring)
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- The modern corporation
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has grown out of the Industrial Age.
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The Industrial Age began in 1712
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when an Englishman named Thomas Newcomen
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invented a steam-driven pump
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to pump water out of the English coal mines
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so the English coal mines could get it more coal to mine
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rather than hauling buckets of water out of the mine.
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It was all about productivity,
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more coal per man-hour.
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That was the dawn of the Industrial Age,
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and then it became more steel per man-hour,
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more textiles per man-hour,
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more automobiles per man-hour.
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And today it's more chips per man-hour,
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more gizmos per man-hour.
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The system is basically the same,
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producing more sophisticated products today.
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- The dominant role of corporations in our lives
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is essentially a product of roughly the past century.
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Corporations were originally associations of people
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who were chartered by a state
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to perform some particular function,
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like a group of people want to build
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a bridge over the Charles River
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or something like that.
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- There were very few chartered corporations
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in early United States history,
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and the ones that existed had clear stipulations
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in their state-issued charters,
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how long they could operate,
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the amount of capitalization,
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what they made or did or maintained, a turnpike, whatever,
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was in their Charter,
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and they didn't do anything else.
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They didn't own or couldn't own another corporation.
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Their shareholders were liable and so on.
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- In both law and the culture
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the corporation was considered a subordinate entity
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that was a gift from the people
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in order to serve the public good.
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(dramatic orchestral music)
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So you have that history,
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and we shouldn't be misled by it.
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It's not as if those are the halcyon days
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when all corporations served the public trust,
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but there's a lot to learn from that.
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(cannons blasting)
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- [Mary] The Civil War
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and the Industrial Revolution
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created enormous growth in corporations,
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and so there was an explosion of railroads
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who got large federal subsidies of land,
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banking, heavy manufacturing.
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And corporate lawyers a century and a half ago
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realized they needed more power to operate
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and wanted to remove some of the constraints
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that had historically been placed on the corporate form.
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- The 14th Amendment was passed at the end of the Civil War
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to give equal rights to black people,
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and therefore it said no state can deprive any person
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of life, liberty, or property
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without due process of law.
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And that was intended to prevent the states
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from taking away life, liberty, or property
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from black people,
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as they had done for so much of our history.
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And what happened is the corporations come into court,
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and corporation lawyers are very clever,
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and they say, "Oh, you can't deprive a person
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of life, liberty, or property.
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We are a person.
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A corporation as a person."
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And Supreme Court goes along with that.
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- And what was particularly grotesque about this
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was that the 14th Amendment was passed
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to protect newly freed slaves.
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So for instance,
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between 1890 and 1910
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there were 307 cases brought before the court
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under the 14th Amendment,
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288 of these brought by corporations.
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19 by African Americans.
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- 600,000 people were killed to get rights for people,
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and then with strokes of the pen over the next 30 years,
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judges applied those rights to capital and property,
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while stripping them from people.
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- Everybody makes a mistake once in a while,
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but I just can't be personally responsible.
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That's one of the weaknesses of a partnership.
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Isn't it, Sid?
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- Well, maybe you'd better incorporate the store.
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- [Partner] Incorporate it?
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- Yes.
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Incorporating would give you the big advantage
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of what you want right now:
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limited liability.
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You start with a group of people
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who want to invest their money in a company.
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Then these people apply for a charter as a corporation.
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This government issues a charter to that corporation.
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Now that corporation operates legally
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as an individual person.
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It is not a group of people.
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It is under the law a legal person.
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Imperial Steel Incorporated
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has many of the legal rights of a person.
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It can buy and sell property.
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It can borrow money.
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It can sue in court and be sued.
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It carries on a business.
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Imperial Steel, along with thousands of other legal persons,
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is a part of our daily living.
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It is a member of our society.
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(light electronic music)
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- [Narrator] Having acquired the legal rights
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and protections of a person,
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the question arises
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what kind of person is the corporation?
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- Corporations were given the rights of immortal persons,
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but then special kinds of persons,
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persons who have no moral conscience.
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These are special kind of persons
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which are designed, and by law,
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to be concerned only for their stockholders
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and not, say, what are sometimes called their stakeholders,
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like the community or the workforce or whatever.
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- The great problem of having corporate citizens
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is that they aren't like the rest of us.
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As Baron Thurlow in England
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is supposed to have said,
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"They have no soul to save
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and they have no body to incarcerate."
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- I believe the mistake that a lot of people make
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when they think about corporations
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is they think corporations are like us.
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- General Electric is a kind old man with lots of stories.
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- Nike.
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- Young.
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- Energetic.
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- Microsoft, aggressive.
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- McDonalds, young, outgoing, enthusiastic.
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- Monsanto, immaculately dressed.
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- Disney, goofy.
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- The Body Shop, deceptive.
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- Very lovely.
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(woman laughs)
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- Do you know what The Body Shop is?
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- Nope.
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(woman laughs)
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- They think they have feelings,
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they have politics,
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they have belief systems.
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They really only have one thing,
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the bottom line,
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how to make as much money as they can in any given quarter.
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That's it.
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- Of course they make a profit,
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and it's a good thing.
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That's the incentive that makes capitalism work
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to give us more of the things that we need.
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That's the incentive that other economic systems lack.
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- People accuse us of
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only paying attention to the economic leg
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because they think that's what
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a businessperson's mindset is,
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it's just money.
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And it's not so,
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because we as business people
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know that we need to certainly address the environment
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but also we need to be seen as
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constructive members of society.
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- There are companies that do good for the communities.
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They produce services and goods
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that are a value to all of us,
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that make our lives better,
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and that's a good thing.
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The problem comes in in the profit motivation here,
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because these people, there's no such thing as enough.
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- And I always counter, point out
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there's no organization on this planet
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that can neglect its economic foundation.
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Even someone living under a banyan tree is dependent
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on support from someone.
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The economic link has to be addressed by everyone.
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It's not just a business issue.
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- [Narrator] But unlike someone under a banyan tree,
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all publicly traded corporations have been structured
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through a series of legal decisions
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to have a peculiar and disturbing characteristic.
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They are required by law
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to place the financial interests of their owners
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above competing interests.
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In fact, the corporation is legally bound
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to put its bottom line ahead of everything else,
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even the public good.
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- That's not a law of nature.
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That's a very specific decision,
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in fact, the judicial decision,
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so they're concerned only
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for the short-term profit of their stockholders
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who are very highly concentrated.
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(people shouting)
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- To whom do these companies owe loyalty?
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What does loyalty mean?
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It turns out that that was a rather naive concept anyway,
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as corporations are always owed obligation to themselves
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to get large and to get profitable.
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In doing this it tends to be more profitable
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to the extent it can make the other people pay the bills
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for its impact on society.
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There's a terrible word that economists use
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for this called externalities.
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- An externality
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is the effect of a transaction between two individuals
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on a third party who has not consented to
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or played any role in the carrying out of that transaction.
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And there are real problems in that area.
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There's no doubt about it.
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- Running a business is a tough proposition.
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There are costs to be minimized at every turn.
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And at some point the corporation says,
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"Let somebody else deal with that.
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Let's let somebody else supplant the military power
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to the Middle East to protect the oil at its source.
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Let's let somebody else build the roads
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that we can drive these automobiles on.
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Let's let somebody else have those problems."
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And that is where externalities come from,
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that notion of, "Let somebody else deal with that.
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I got all I can handle myself."
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- A corporation is an externalizing machine
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in the same way that a shark is a killing machine.
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Each one is designed in a very efficient way
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to accomplish particular objectives.
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In the achievement of those objectives
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there isn't any question of malevolence or of will.
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The enterprise has within it,
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and the shark has within it,
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those characteristics that enable it to do
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that for which it was designed.
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- So the pressure's on the corporation
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to deliver results now
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and to externalize any cost
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that this unwary or uncaring public
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will allow it to externalize.
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(light electronic music)
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- [Narrator] To determine the kind of personality
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that drives the corporation
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to behave like an externalizing machine,
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we can analyze it
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like a psychiatrist would a patient.
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We can even formulate a diagnosis
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on the basis of typical case histories
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of harm it has inflicted on others,
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selected from a universe of corporate activity.
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- Well, this is the office of the National Labor Committee,
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here in the garment area of New York City.
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It's a little bit disheveled.
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These are all from different campaigns.
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To make this stuff concrete as possible
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we purchase all of the products
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from the factories that we're talking about.
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This shirt sells for $14.99
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and the women who made this shirt got paid three cents.
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Liz Claiborne jackets made in El Salvador,
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the jackets are $178,
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and the workers were paid 74 cents
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for every jacket they made.
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Alpine car stereos, 31 cents an hour.
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It's not just sneakers,
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it's not just apparel.
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It's everything.
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We were in Honduras,
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and some workers, they knew the kind of work that we did,
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and they approached us, these young workers,
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and they said, "Conditions in our factory are horrible.
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Will you please meet with us?"
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And we said we would,
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but you can't meet in the developing world.
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You can't walk up to a factory
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with workers come out and you interview them.
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There's goons, there's spies, the military police.
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So you do everything in a clandestine manner.
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We're about to start the meeting,
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and in walk three guys,
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very tough-looking guys.
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The company had found out about our meeting
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and sent these spies.
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Obviously, we didn't have the meeting,
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but these young girls were really bright.
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And as they were leaving
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away from the eyesight of the spies,
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they started to put their hands underneath the table.
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And I put my palm under there,
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I put my hand under there,
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and they put into my my hand their pay stubs,
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so we'd know who they were, what they were paid,
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and the labels that they made in the factory
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so we'd know who they work for.
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And I took my hand out after everyone had left
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and in the palm of my hand
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was the face of Kathie Lee Gifford.
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But the bottom of it is the interesting part,
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"A portion of the proceeds from the sale of this garment
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will be donated to various Children's Charities."
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It's very touching, gets you right here.
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Walmart is telling you if you purchase these pants
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and Kathie Lee is telling you you purchase these pants,
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you're gonna help children.
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The problem was the people handed us the label
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were 13 years of age.
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Do many people in her family work?
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(speaking in a foreign language)
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- [Interpreter] Just me.
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- [Charles] How many people do you support?
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(speaking in a foreign language)
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- [Interpreter] Eight people.
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- [Charles] Eight people.
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And how do you do it with that salary?
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Is it enough?
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(speaking in a foreign language)
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- Let's look at it from a different point of view.
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Let's look at it from the point of view
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of the the people in Bangladesh
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who are starving to death,
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the people in China who are starving to death,
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and the only thing that they have to offer to anybody
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that is worth anything
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is their low-cost labor.
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And in effect, what they are saying to the world
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is they have this big flag
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that says, "Come over and hire us!
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We will work for 10 cents an hour
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because 10 cents an hour will buy us the rice
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that we need not to starve,"
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and, "Come and rescue us from our circumstance!"
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And so when Nike comes in,
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they are regarded by everybody in the community
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as an enormous godsend.
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(people shouting over each other)
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- [Charles] The door was wide open.
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- [Man] No no no no no no.
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- That's my clothes!
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- [Man] What are you doing?
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- [Charles] Those are my clothes!
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- [Man] This is not your clothes!
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Where's your camera?
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- [Charles] Let's leave!
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Don't touch the woman!
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Okay?
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- This is a private company.
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- [Charles] Yes.
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- Without permission, how can you come in?
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- [Charles] Uh-huh.
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Huh.
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Well, the door was wide open, and uh-
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- The only door wide open here is for the employees,
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not for you!
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(dramatic orchestral music)
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- We went through the garbage dump
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in the Dominican Republic.
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We always do this kind of stuff.
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We dig around.
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One day we found a big pile
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of Nike's internal pricing documents.
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Nike assigns a time frame to each operation.
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They don't talk about minutes.
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They break the time frame into ten thousandths of a second.
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You get to the bottom of all 22 operations
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to give the workers 6.6 minutes to make the shirt.
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It's 70 cents an hour in the Dominican Republic.
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That 6.6 minutes equals eight cents.
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These are Nike's documents.
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That means the wages come to
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three tenths of 1% of retail price.
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This is the reality.
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It's the science of exploitation.
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(eerie ambient music)
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- What happens in the areas
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where these corporations go in and are successful?
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They soon find that they can't do any more in that country
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because the wages are too high now.
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And what's that another way of saying?
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Well, the people are no longer desperate.
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So okay, we've used up all the desperate people there.
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They're all plump and healthy and wealthy.
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Let's move on to the next desperate lot
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and employ them and raise their level up.
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(dramatic orchestral music)
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- Well the whole idea of the export processing zone is that
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it will be the first step towards
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this wonderful new development.
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Through the investment that's attracted to these countries,
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there will be a trickle-down effect into the communities.
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But because so many countries are now in the game
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of creating these free trade enclaves,
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they have to keep providing more and more incentives
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for companies to come to their little denationalized pocket,
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and that the tax holidays get longer.
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So the workers rarely make enough money
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to buy three meals a day,
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let alone feed their local economy.
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(ominous music)
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- Something happened in 1940
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which marked the beginning of a new era,
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the era of the ability to synthesize and create
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on an unlimited scale,
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new chemicals that had never existed before in the world.
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- [Narrator] And using the magic of research,
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oil companies compete with each other
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in taking the petroleum molecule apart
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and rearranging it into,
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well, you name it.
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- So suddenly it became possible
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to produce any new chemicals, synthetic chemicals,
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the likes of which
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had never existed before in the world,
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for any purpose
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and at virtually no cost.
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- [Narrator] Fabrics, toothbrushes.
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Tires, insecticides.
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Cosmetics, weed killers.
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A whole galaxy of things
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to make a better life on earth.
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- For instance, if you wanted to go to a chemist
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and say, "Look I want to have a chemical,
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say a pesticide,
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which will persist throughout the food chain,
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and I don't want it to have to renew it very, very often.
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I'd like it to be relatively non-destructible."
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And then he'd put two benzene molecules on the blackboard
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and add a chlorine here and a chlorine there,
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and that was DDT.
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- [Narrator] When the Eighth Army needed Jap civilians
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to help them out in our occupation,
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they called on native doctors to administer DDT
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under the supervision of our men
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to stem a potential typhus epidemic.
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Dusting like this goes a long way in checking disease,
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and the laugh's on them.
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Pardon our dust.
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(march-like music)
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(sorrowful orchestral music)
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- As the petrochemical era grew and grew,
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warning signs emerged that
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some of these chemicals could pose hazards.
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The data initially were trivial, anecdotal,
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but gradually a body of data started accumulating
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to the extent that we now know
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that these synthetic chemicals
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which have permeated our workplace,
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our consumer products, our air, our water,
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produce cancer and also birth defects
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and some other toxic effects.
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Furthermore, industry has known about this.
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At least most industries have known about this
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and have attempted to trivialize these risks.
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If I take a gun and shoot you,
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that's criminal.
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If I expose you to some chemicals
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which knowingly are gonna kill you,
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what difference is there?
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The difference is that it takes longer to kill you.
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We are now in the midst of a major cancer epidemic,
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and I have no doubt,
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and I have documented the basis for this,
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that industry is largely responsible
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for this overwhelming epidemic of cancer
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in which one in every two men get cancer in their lifetimes
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and one in every three women get cancer in their lifetimes.
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(light electronic music)
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Towards the end of 1989
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a great box of documents arrived at my office
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without any indication where they came from
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and I opened them and found in it
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a complete set of Monsanto files,
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particularly a set of files dealing
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with toxicological testing of cows
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who'd been given rBGH.
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- [Newscaster] BST, trade name Posilac, is being used
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in more than a quarter of the dairy herds
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in the United States
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according to Monsanto.
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The milk is being drunk
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by a large portion of the American population,
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since the Food and Drug Administration declared it safe
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for both cows and humans four years ago.
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- And at that time Monsanto was saying
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there's no evidence whatsoever, any adverse effects,
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"We don't use antibiotics."
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And this clearly showed
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that they had lied through their teeth.
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(eerie music)
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The files described areas of chronic information
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in the heart, lung, kidneys, spleen,
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also reproductive effects,
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also a whole series of other problems.
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- [Newscaster] It's the most comprehensive
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independent assessment of the drug
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concludes that BST results in unnecessary pain,
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suffering and distress for the cows.
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This is not acceptable for a drug
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designed simply to increase milk production.
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- It is a silly product.
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The industrial world is awash in milk.
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We're overproducing milk.
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We actually have governments around the world
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who pay farmers not to produce milk.
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So the first product Monsanto comes up with
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is a product that produces more of what we don't need.
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- Of course you'll want to inject Posilac
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to every eligible cow,
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as each cow not treated is a lost income opportunity.
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- But the problem was that use of the artificial hormone
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caused all kinds of problems for the cows,
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because something called mastitis,
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which is a very painful infection of the udders.
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When you milk the cow, if the cow has bad mastitis,
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some of the,
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and I don't know how to say this in a, you know,
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I hope people aren't watching at dinnertime,
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but the pus from the infection of the udders
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ends up in the milk,
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and the somatic cell count they call it,
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the bacteria count inside your milk goes up.
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- There's a cost to the cows.
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The cows gets sicker when they're injected with rBGH.
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They're injected with antibiotics.
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We know that people
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are consuming antibiotics through their food,
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and we know that that's contributing to
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antibiotic-resistant bacteria and diseases.
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And we know we're at a crisis
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when somebody can go into a hospital
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and get a staph infection
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and it can't be cured and they die.
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That's a crisis.
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- Bad for the cow,
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bad for the farmer,
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bad potentially for the consumer.
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The jury is out.
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We see a lot of conflicting evidence
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about potential health risks
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and of course as a consumer,
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my belief is why should I take any risk?
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(dramatic orchestral music)
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- [Narrator] Factory farm cows have not been
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the only victims of Monsanto products.
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Large areas of Vietnam were deforested by the U.S. military
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using Monsanto's Agent Orange.
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The toxic herbicide reportedly caused
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over 50,000 birth defects,
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as well as hundreds of thousands of cancers
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in Vietnamese civilians and soldiers
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and in former American troops serving in Southeast Asia.
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Unlike the Vietnamese victims,
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U.S. Vietnam veterans exposed to Agent Orange
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were able to sue Monsanto for causing their illnesses.
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Monsanto settled out of court,
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paying $80 million in damages,
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but it never admitted guilt.
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(light electronic music)
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- Sleeping in a motel in Brewer, Maine one night,
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I woke up with terrible hay fever and my eyes were burning
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and I looked out at the river
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and there were great mounds of white foam
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going right down the river,
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and the next morning I got up
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and I said, "My god, what was that happening last night?"
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He said, "Oh, that's just the river."
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And I said, "What do you mean?"
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He said, "Well look, every night the paper company
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send this stuff down the river."
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I said, "What are you talking about?"
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And he said, "Don't you understand,
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that's how we get rid of the effluent
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from the paper mills."
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Well I knew at that time,
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I'd been in a business,
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I'd sold oil to the paper mills,
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I knew all the owners,
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I'd been in politics,
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I knew the people in the towns,
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I knew not one constituent of the paper mills
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wanted to have the river polluted,
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and yet here the river was being polluted.
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And it was more or less as if we created a doom machine.
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In our search for wealth and and for prosperity
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we created something that's gonna destroy us.
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- The traders who are involved in the market
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are not guys whose moral fiber
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when it comes to environmental conditions
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are gonna be be rattled at all.
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They're seeing dollars and they're making money.
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Brokers don't stay away from copper
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because it violates their religious beliefs
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or their environmental policies, no.
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You think about it, but (laughs) it's fleeting.
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(laughs) It really is a fleeting moment.
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00:35:10,407 --> 00:35:11,942
It's like, "Oh yeah, oh yeah, well,
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00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:14,245
the town being polluted down there in Peru,
745
00:35:14,244 --> 00:35:17,514
but hey, this guy needs to buy some copper,"
746
00:35:17,514 --> 00:35:19,217
and getting paid a commission too.
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Our information that we receive does not include
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anything about the environmental conditions
749
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because until the environmental conditions
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become a commodity themselves
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or are being traded,
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00:35:31,027 --> 00:35:34,498
then obviously we will not have anything to do with that.
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It doesn't come into our psyche at all.
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It's so far away
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and you hardly hear anything about it.
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Keep in mind, there are things going on
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right in our backyards for God's sake.
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We trade live hogs.
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There are so many pigs in the state of Carolina
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00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:52,483
that it's polluting the rivers,
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but how often do you find out about that?
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(dramatic orchestral music)
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- At Multinational Monitor we put together a list
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of the top corporate criminals of the 1990s.
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We went back and looked at all of the criminal fines
766
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that corporations had paid in the decade.
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Exxon pled guilty in connection to federal criminal charges
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with the Valdez spill
769
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and paid $125 million in criminal fines.
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00:36:22,947 --> 00:36:25,115
General Electric was guilty
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of defrauding the federal government
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00:36:26,617 --> 00:36:29,353
and paid $9.5 million in criminal fines.
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00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:32,190
Chevron was guilty of environmental violations
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00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,291
and paid $6.5 million in fines.
775
00:36:34,291 --> 00:36:36,560
Mitsubishi was guilty of antitrust violation
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and paid $1.8 million in fines.
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00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:40,498
IBM was guilty of illegal exports and paid $8.5 million.
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00:36:40,498 --> 00:36:43,034
Kodak was guilty of environmental violations and paid
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00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:43,867
$1 million in fines.
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00:36:43,867 --> 00:36:45,101
Pfizer the drug manufacturer
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00:36:45,101 --> 00:36:46,870
was guilty of antitrust violations.
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00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:47,704
Odwalla was guilty.
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And paid $20 million in fines.
784
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Of Food and Drug Regulatory violations
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and paid $1.5 million in fines.
786
00:36:50,675 --> 00:36:52,743
Sears was guilty of financial fraud.
787
00:36:52,742 --> 00:36:54,211
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois.
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00:36:54,211 --> 00:36:56,880
(cross-talking)
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Roche, guilty of antitrust violation,
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paid $500 million in criminal fines.
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- Again and again we have the problem that
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00:37:15,565 --> 00:37:17,667
whether you obey the law or not
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is a matter whether it's cost-effective.
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If the chance of getting caught and the penalty
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are less than it costs to comply,
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people think of it as being just a business decision.
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- Drawing the metaphor of the early attempts to fly.
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(pack exploding)
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(curious electronic music)
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The man going off of a very high cliff in his airplane,
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with the wings flapping,
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00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,802
and the guys flapping the wings,
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00:37:51,802 --> 00:37:53,938
and the wind is in his face.
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00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:56,007
And this poor fool thinks he's flying
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00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:58,442
but in fact he's in free fall
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and he just doesn't know it yet
807
00:38:00,677 --> 00:38:02,846
because the ground is so far away,
808
00:38:03,713 --> 00:38:06,683
but of course the craft is doomed to crash.
809
00:38:10,054 --> 00:38:11,655
That's the way our civilization is.
810
00:38:11,655 --> 00:38:14,125
The very high cliff represents
811
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:17,494
the virtually unlimited resources we seemed to have
812
00:38:17,494 --> 00:38:19,630
when we began this journey.
813
00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:21,898
The craft isn't flying
814
00:38:21,898 --> 00:38:23,034
because it's not built
815
00:38:23,034 --> 00:38:25,736
according to the laws of aerodynamics,
816
00:38:25,735 --> 00:38:28,038
and it's subject to the law of gravity.
817
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:29,907
Our civilization is not flying
818
00:38:29,907 --> 00:38:33,811
because it's not built according the laws of aerodynamics
819
00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:36,480
for civilizations that would fly.
820
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,317
And of course the ground is still a long way away,
821
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,054
but some people have seen that ground rushing up
822
00:38:43,054 --> 00:38:44,722
sooner than the rest of us have.
823
00:38:44,722 --> 00:38:46,757
The visionaries have seen it
824
00:38:46,757 --> 00:38:48,659
and have told us it's coming.
825
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,666
There's not a single scientific peer-reviewed paper
826
00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:58,436
published in the last 25 years
827
00:38:58,436 --> 00:39:03,173
that would contradict this scenario.
828
00:39:04,407 --> 00:39:08,144
Every living system of Earth is in decline.
829
00:39:08,144 --> 00:39:12,416
Every life support system of earth is in decline.
830
00:39:12,416 --> 00:39:15,385
And these together constitute the biosphere,
831
00:39:15,385 --> 00:39:18,521
the biosphere that supports and nurtures all of life,
832
00:39:18,521 --> 00:39:22,826
and not just our life, but perhaps 30 million other species
833
00:39:22,827 --> 00:39:24,495
that share this planet with us.
834
00:39:24,494 --> 00:39:27,931
(light electronic music)
835
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,070
The typical company of the 20th century,
836
00:39:33,070 --> 00:39:36,173
the extractive, wasteful, abusive linea
837
00:39:36,172 --> 00:39:38,508
and all of its processes,
838
00:39:38,509 --> 00:39:41,344
taking from the earth, making, wasting,
839
00:39:41,344 --> 00:39:44,514
sending its products back to the biosphere,
840
00:39:44,514 --> 00:39:45,849
waste to a landfill.
841
00:39:49,085 --> 00:39:51,855
I myself was amazed to learn
842
00:39:51,856 --> 00:39:55,826
just how much stuff the earth has to produce
843
00:39:55,826 --> 00:39:57,994
through our extraction process
844
00:39:57,994 --> 00:40:00,364
to produce $1 of revenue for our company.
845
00:40:00,364 --> 00:40:03,000
When I learned, I was flabbergasted.
846
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,070
(machinery whirring)
847
00:40:10,273 --> 00:40:15,278
We're leaving a terrible legacy of poisoning
848
00:40:15,579 --> 00:40:18,749
and diminishment of the environment
849
00:40:19,849 --> 00:40:22,585
for our grandchildren's grandchildren,
850
00:40:23,521 --> 00:40:25,623
generations not yet born.
851
00:40:26,657 --> 00:40:29,660
Some people have called that intergenerational tyranny
852
00:40:29,659 --> 00:40:33,263
a form of taxation without representation
853
00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:36,534
levied by us on generations yet to be.
854
00:40:40,003 --> 00:40:41,438
It's the wrong thing to do.
855
00:40:44,407 --> 00:40:45,909
(eerie ambient music)
856
00:40:45,909 --> 00:40:48,011
- One of the questions that comes up periodically
857
00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:50,280
is to what extent could a corporation be
858
00:40:51,215 --> 00:40:53,851
considered to be psychopathic.
859
00:40:53,851 --> 00:40:56,420
And if we look at a corporation as a legal person,
860
00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:58,956
then it may not be that difficult
861
00:40:58,956 --> 00:41:00,024
to actually draw the transition
862
00:41:00,023 --> 00:41:01,958
between psychopathy in the individual
863
00:41:01,958 --> 00:41:04,627
to psychopathy in a corporation.
864
00:41:04,628 --> 00:41:05,696
We can go through the characteristics
865
00:41:05,695 --> 00:41:09,232
that define this particular disorder one by one
866
00:41:09,233 --> 00:41:11,469
and see how they might apply to corporations.
867
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:22,745
They would have all the characteristics.
868
00:41:22,746 --> 00:41:25,715
And in fact, in many respects, a corporation of that sort
869
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is as a prototypical psychopath.
870
00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:36,460
- [Narrator] If the dominant institution of our time
871
00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:39,195
has been created in the image of a psychopath,
872
00:41:39,195 --> 00:41:42,199
who bears the moral responsibility for its actions?
873
00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:47,538
- Can a building have moral opinions?
874
00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:50,306
Can a building have social responsibility?
875
00:41:50,306 --> 00:41:52,942
If a building can't have social responsibility,
876
00:41:52,943 --> 00:41:55,546
what does it mean to say that a corporation can?
877
00:41:55,545 --> 00:42:00,384
A corporation is simply a artificial legal structure,
878
00:42:00,384 --> 00:42:02,552
but the people who are engaged in it,
879
00:42:02,552 --> 00:42:06,222
whether the stockholders, whether the executives in it,
880
00:42:06,222 --> 00:42:07,991
whether the employees,
881
00:42:07,992 --> 00:42:10,861
they all have moral responsibilities.
882
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:13,763
(light electronic music)
883
00:42:13,764 --> 00:42:16,467
- It's a fair assumption that every human being,
884
00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:19,903
real human beings, flesh-and-blood ones, not corporations,
885
00:42:19,903 --> 00:42:22,706
but every flesh-and-blood human being is a moral person.
886
00:42:23,673 --> 00:42:24,708
Got the same genes,
887
00:42:24,708 --> 00:42:26,911
we're more or less the same,
888
00:42:26,911 --> 00:42:30,847
but our nature, the nature of humans,
889
00:42:30,847 --> 00:42:33,317
allows all kinds of behavior.
890
00:42:33,317 --> 00:42:36,619
Every one of us under some circumstances could be
891
00:42:39,556 --> 00:42:41,357
a gas chamber attendant and a saint.
892
00:42:43,226 --> 00:42:47,964
- No job in my experience with Goodyear
893
00:42:47,965 --> 00:42:51,702
has been as frustrating as the CEO job,
894
00:42:51,702 --> 00:42:54,305
because even though the perception is
895
00:42:54,304 --> 00:42:56,973
that you have absolute power to do whatever you want,
896
00:42:56,974 --> 00:42:59,742
the reality is you don't have that power.
897
00:42:59,742 --> 00:43:03,047
Sometimes if you had really a free hand,
898
00:43:03,047 --> 00:43:05,516
if you really did what you wanted to do
899
00:43:05,516 --> 00:43:10,287
that suits you personal sorts and your personal priorities,
900
00:43:10,286 --> 00:43:11,754
you'd act differently,
901
00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:13,891
but as a CEO you cannot do that.
902
00:43:14,891 --> 00:43:17,627
Layoffs have become so widespread
903
00:43:17,628 --> 00:43:22,633
that people tend to believe that CEOs make these decisions
904
00:43:23,032 --> 00:43:24,500
without any consideration
905
00:43:24,501 --> 00:43:27,403
to the human implications of their decisions.
906
00:43:27,403 --> 00:43:31,909
It is never a decision that any CEO makes lightly.
907
00:43:31,909 --> 00:43:33,242
It is a tough decision,
908
00:43:35,478 --> 00:43:40,483
but it is the consequence of modern capitalism.
909
00:43:42,251 --> 00:43:43,753
- When you look at a corporation,
910
00:43:43,753 --> 00:43:46,222
just like when you look at a slave owner,
911
00:43:46,222 --> 00:43:47,891
you want to distinguish
912
00:43:47,891 --> 00:43:50,527
between the institution and individual.
913
00:43:50,527 --> 00:43:53,097
So slavery for example,
914
00:43:53,097 --> 00:43:55,466
or other forms of tyranny,
915
00:43:55,465 --> 00:43:57,734
are inherently monstrous,
916
00:43:57,735 --> 00:43:59,937
but the individuals participating in them
917
00:43:59,936 --> 00:44:02,338
may be the nicest guys you can imagine,
918
00:44:02,338 --> 00:44:04,273
benevolent, friendly,
919
00:44:04,273 --> 00:44:05,643
nice to the children,
920
00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:08,012
even nice to their slaves,
921
00:44:08,012 --> 00:44:10,847
caring about other people.
922
00:44:10,847 --> 00:44:12,650
As individuals they may be anything,
923
00:44:14,184 --> 00:44:17,054
as in their institutional role they're monstrous
924
00:44:17,054 --> 00:44:19,123
because the institution's monstrous,
925
00:44:19,123 --> 00:44:20,423
and the same is true here.
926
00:44:21,992 --> 00:44:24,361
- My wife and I some years ago
927
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,463
had at our home a demonstration.
928
00:44:28,364 --> 00:44:29,666
25 people arrive.
929
00:44:29,666 --> 00:44:32,670
They hung a big banner on the top of our house
930
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,204
saying "murderers."
931
00:44:34,204 --> 00:44:36,707
They danced around outside in gas masks and so on.
932
00:44:38,474 --> 00:44:39,308
- [Man] Who are you?
933
00:44:39,309 --> 00:44:40,778
- [John] My name's John.
934
00:44:40,777 --> 00:44:42,645
- You're not looking at me when you say it.
935
00:44:42,646 --> 00:44:43,480
You have to be a little bit careful
936
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,449
because I'm very sensitive to people who are not friendly.
937
00:44:47,818 --> 00:44:50,421
Did you know that we are recorded and filmed?
938
00:44:50,420 --> 00:44:51,621
- [Man] No.
939
00:44:51,621 --> 00:44:53,289
- Well, you'll see yourself on television.
940
00:44:53,289 --> 00:44:54,123
- I think it would've been polite
941
00:44:54,123 --> 00:44:55,192
to have mentioned it.
942
00:44:55,192 --> 00:44:56,659
I mean here we are-
943
00:44:56,659 --> 00:44:57,493
- Politeness?
944
00:44:57,494 --> 00:45:00,164
This man is involved in a corporation
945
00:45:00,164 --> 00:45:02,700
which is funding directly, police,
946
00:45:02,699 --> 00:45:05,301
which this corporation has admitted-
947
00:45:05,302 --> 00:45:06,537
- [Woman] Who is the corporation?
948
00:45:06,536 --> 00:45:08,172
- [John] A corporation is an organization of
949
00:45:08,172 --> 00:45:10,206
individuals, and this individual is part
950
00:45:10,206 --> 00:45:11,574
of that corporation,
951
00:45:11,574 --> 00:45:12,408
so he's responsible.
952
00:45:12,409 --> 00:45:14,945
- As a public demonstration it wasn't very effective.
953
00:45:14,945 --> 00:45:15,979
There were only two,
954
00:45:15,978 --> 00:45:17,447
this is a very rural area,
955
00:45:17,447 --> 00:45:18,481
two people and a dog,
956
00:45:18,481 --> 00:45:19,682
and it's not a very big house,
957
00:45:19,682 --> 00:45:21,918
which I think rather surprised them.
958
00:45:21,918 --> 00:45:24,187
But then we sat down and talked to them
959
00:45:24,188 --> 00:45:25,989
for a couple of hours
960
00:45:25,989 --> 00:45:27,824
and we gave them tea and coffee
961
00:45:27,824 --> 00:45:29,358
and they had lunch on our lawn.
962
00:45:30,427 --> 00:45:31,428
- There's another coffee coming.
963
00:45:31,427 --> 00:45:33,529
And there's no, who wanted,
964
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:35,499
sorry about the soya, anyway.
965
00:45:38,101 --> 00:45:39,670
- No need for you to be deceitful.
966
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:42,472
Why didn't you just ask me whether I was in?
967
00:45:42,472 --> 00:45:44,641
- [Man] Hello, can we hang a murderer sign on your house?
968
00:45:44,641 --> 00:45:45,476
(all laughing)
969
00:45:45,476 --> 00:45:48,077
- And after about 20 minutes they said,
970
00:45:48,077 --> 00:45:50,748
"Well the problem's not you, it's Shell."
971
00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:51,749
I said, "Oh, wait a minute.
972
00:45:51,748 --> 00:45:54,684
Let's talk about what is Shell.
973
00:45:54,684 --> 00:45:56,487
It's made up of people like me."
974
00:45:56,487 --> 00:45:58,822
In the end what we found in that discussion
975
00:45:58,822 --> 00:46:00,590
was all the things that they were worried about,
976
00:46:00,590 --> 00:46:02,826
I was worried about as well, climate,
977
00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:06,764
oppressive regimes, human rights.
978
00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:09,432
The big difference between us was
979
00:46:09,432 --> 00:46:12,436
I feel that I actually can make a contribution to this.
980
00:46:12,436 --> 00:46:13,804
These people were frustrated
981
00:46:13,804 --> 00:46:16,773
because they felt they had nothing to do.
982
00:46:16,773 --> 00:46:19,742
- So an individual CEO, let's say,
983
00:46:19,742 --> 00:46:22,612
may really care about the environment,
984
00:46:22,612 --> 00:46:25,815
and in fact since they have such extraordinary resources,
985
00:46:25,815 --> 00:46:28,217
they can even devote some of their resources to that
986
00:46:28,217 --> 00:46:32,321
without violating their responsibility
987
00:46:32,322 --> 00:46:33,557
to be totally inhuman.
988
00:46:34,757 --> 00:46:35,992
- [Narrator] Which is why
989
00:46:35,992 --> 00:46:38,828
as the Moody-Stuarts served tea to protesters,
990
00:46:38,829 --> 00:46:42,266
Shell Nigeria can flare unrivaled amounts of gas,
991
00:46:42,266 --> 00:46:44,300
making it one of the world's single worst
992
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:45,735
sources of pollution.
993
00:46:46,969 --> 00:46:49,772
And all the professed concerns about the environment
994
00:46:49,773 --> 00:46:53,277
do not spare Ken Saro-Wiwa and eight other activists
995
00:46:53,277 --> 00:46:54,644
from being hanged
996
00:46:54,644 --> 00:46:57,313
for opposing Shell's environmental practices
997
00:46:57,313 --> 00:46:58,581
in the Niger Delta.
998
00:46:58,581 --> 00:47:01,184
(somber music)
999
00:47:07,423 --> 00:47:08,759
- The corporation is not a person.
1000
00:47:08,759 --> 00:47:09,760
It doesn't think.
1001
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,295
People in it think.
1002
00:47:11,295 --> 00:47:13,096
And for them it is legitimate
1003
00:47:13,096 --> 00:47:15,833
to create Terminator technology
1004
00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:20,637
so that farmers are not able to save their seeds,
1005
00:47:20,637 --> 00:47:25,642
seeds that will destroy themselves through a suicide gene,
1006
00:47:25,976 --> 00:47:30,981
seeds that are designed to only produce crop in one season.
1007
00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:33,817
You really need to have a brutal mind.
1008
00:47:33,817 --> 00:47:35,786
It's a war against evolution
1009
00:47:35,786 --> 00:47:38,255
to even think in those terms,
1010
00:47:38,255 --> 00:47:39,756
but quite clearly,
1011
00:47:39,755 --> 00:47:42,826
profits are so much higher in their minds.
1012
00:47:42,826 --> 00:47:43,793
(light orchestral music)
1013
00:47:43,793 --> 00:47:45,962
- [Narrator] The profit motive which drove Fudsy
1014
00:47:45,963 --> 00:47:48,699
to accomplish so much may bring out the evil
1015
00:47:50,333 --> 00:47:51,500
as well as the good.
1016
00:47:53,269 --> 00:47:54,237
(phones ringing)
1017
00:47:54,237 --> 00:47:55,105
- [Both Men] Hello?
1018
00:47:57,807 --> 00:48:00,210
- My work spans all industry sectors
1019
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:04,914
I virtually have worked for I'd say 25% of the Fortune 500.
1020
00:48:06,349 --> 00:48:08,851
I've posed as an investment banker.
1021
00:48:08,851 --> 00:48:13,022
I've posed as a venture capitalist.
1022
00:48:13,023 --> 00:48:14,591
I set up front companies
1023
00:48:14,590 --> 00:48:19,596
that are executive recruiting firms.
1024
00:48:20,197 --> 00:48:21,565
Essentially I'm a spy.
1025
00:48:24,268 --> 00:48:26,802
I'll locate your employees
1026
00:48:26,802 --> 00:48:28,871
and I will tell them that
1027
00:48:28,871 --> 00:48:31,040
I'm calling from Acme Recruiting Agency
1028
00:48:31,041 --> 00:48:33,043
and that I've got a job
1029
00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:35,811
that pays them considerably more than what they're paying,
1030
00:48:35,811 --> 00:48:38,748
would they mind meeting me for an interview.
1031
00:48:38,748 --> 00:48:40,850
And when the executive shows up,
1032
00:48:40,851 --> 00:48:43,787
what he doesn't realize is I'm actually debriefing him
1033
00:48:43,786 --> 00:48:45,489
on behalf of a competitor
1034
00:48:45,489 --> 00:48:46,657
and that there is no job,
1035
00:48:46,657 --> 00:48:49,626
and that the office that he's at has been rented,
1036
00:48:49,626 --> 00:48:53,864
and the picture on my desk of my family is a phony,
1037
00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:57,634
and it's all just a big elaborate ruse
1038
00:48:57,634 --> 00:49:02,639
to glean competitive information from from him.
1039
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:04,273
I don't feel any guilt.
1040
00:49:06,043 --> 00:49:06,876
You know what?
1041
00:49:06,876 --> 00:49:10,646
You have to expect that guys like me are out there.
1042
00:49:13,884 --> 00:49:15,585
We're predators.
1043
00:49:15,585 --> 00:49:18,088
(scary music)
1044
00:49:22,291 --> 00:49:23,726
It's about competition.
1045
00:49:23,726 --> 00:49:24,927
It's about market share.
1046
00:49:24,927 --> 00:49:26,929
It's about being aggressive.
1047
00:49:26,929 --> 00:49:29,031
It's about shareholder value.
1048
00:49:29,032 --> 00:49:30,534
What is your stock at today?
1049
00:49:31,902 --> 00:49:33,302
If you're a CEO,
1050
00:49:35,706 --> 00:49:39,443
do you think your shareholders really care
1051
00:49:39,443 --> 00:49:41,345
whether you're Billy Buttercup or not?
1052
00:49:42,346 --> 00:49:46,483
Do you think that they would prefer you to be a nice guy
1053
00:49:46,483 --> 00:49:49,619
over having money in their pocket?
1054
00:49:49,619 --> 00:49:51,321
I don't think so.
1055
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,755
I think people want money.
1056
00:49:52,755 --> 00:49:54,391
That's the bottom line.
1057
00:49:54,391 --> 00:49:56,026
- The fact that most of these companies
1058
00:49:56,025 --> 00:49:59,395
are run by white men, white rich men,
1059
00:49:59,396 --> 00:50:01,098
means that they are out of touch
1060
00:50:01,097 --> 00:50:03,065
with what the majority of the world is,
1061
00:50:03,065 --> 00:50:04,667
because the majority of this planet
1062
00:50:04,668 --> 00:50:07,304
are not a bunch of rich white guys.
1063
00:50:07,304 --> 00:50:09,940
They're people of other colors, they're the majority,
1064
00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:11,942
women are the majority,
1065
00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:14,177
and the poor and working poor
1066
00:50:14,177 --> 00:50:16,713
make up the majority of this planet.
1067
00:50:16,713 --> 00:50:20,617
So the decisions that they make come from
1068
00:50:20,617 --> 00:50:25,155
not the reality that exists throughout the world.
1069
00:50:25,155 --> 00:50:26,523
How much is enough?
1070
00:50:26,523 --> 00:50:27,356
How much is enough?
1071
00:50:27,356 --> 00:50:29,159
If you are a billionaire,
1072
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,595
would it be okay just to be a half a billionaire?
1073
00:50:31,594 --> 00:50:33,329
Wouldn't it be okay for your company
1074
00:50:33,329 --> 00:50:35,032
to make a little less money if it meant-
1075
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:37,800
When I bought those two airplane tickets
1076
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,936
for Phil Knight and myself to fly to Indonesia,
1077
00:50:40,936 --> 00:50:44,206
I was prepared for him to say, "Okay, let's go."
1078
00:50:44,206 --> 00:50:45,041
Sunday?
1079
00:50:45,041 --> 00:50:47,210
- Oh no, (laughs) not a chance.
1080
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:48,010
- Huh? - Not a chance.
1081
00:50:48,010 --> 00:50:48,844
- No? - No, but-
1082
00:50:48,844 --> 00:50:49,678
- They're transferable.
1083
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:50,514
I can change it to another day.
1084
00:50:50,514 --> 00:50:52,449
And call me on it, call my bluff,
1085
00:50:52,449 --> 00:50:53,682
he's a smart guy,
1086
00:50:53,682 --> 00:50:54,885
he's not stupid,
1087
00:50:54,885 --> 00:50:56,820
and so I thought, "Okay, get ready for this,"
1088
00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:59,389
especially because I bought first-class tickets
1089
00:50:59,389 --> 00:51:02,159
so it'd be a comfortable ride at least.
1090
00:51:04,994 --> 00:51:07,396
And of course he tells me then on camera.
1091
00:51:07,396 --> 00:51:08,798
- [Phil] I've never been to Indonesia.
1092
00:51:08,798 --> 00:51:10,434
- (laughs) I'm taken aback by this.
1093
00:51:10,434 --> 00:51:12,436
I can't believe that the guy is the head of the company,
1094
00:51:12,436 --> 00:51:15,072
has never walked through his own factories.
1095
00:51:15,072 --> 00:51:15,972
Oh, well you've gotta go.
1096
00:51:15,972 --> 00:51:18,842
- No, I can't go between now and the rest of this year.
1097
00:51:18,842 --> 00:51:20,943
- When we were done filming he calls me up
1098
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,713
a couple weeks later and he goes,
1099
00:51:23,713 --> 00:51:25,949
"I may have a chance to go there with you,
1100
00:51:26,849 --> 00:51:28,085
to the factories.
1101
00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:28,918
(tennis ball smacking)
1102
00:51:28,918 --> 00:51:30,820
"I'm going to the Australian Open
1103
00:51:31,887 --> 00:51:33,190
to watch some tennis,
1104
00:51:34,356 --> 00:51:39,096
and (laughs) maybe I can get up there,
1105
00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:40,697
or at least you can go there.
1106
00:51:41,965 --> 00:51:43,900
Would you like to go to the Australian Open?"
1107
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,001
(laughs)
1108
00:51:47,036 --> 00:51:49,972
- For 21 years I never gave a thought
1109
00:51:49,972 --> 00:51:54,478
to what we were taking from the earth or doing to the earth
1110
00:51:54,478 --> 00:51:56,313
in the making of our products,
1111
00:51:56,313 --> 00:51:59,916
and then in the summer of 1994
1112
00:51:59,916 --> 00:52:02,318
we began to hear questions from our customers
1113
00:52:02,318 --> 00:52:03,586
we've never heard before,
1114
00:52:03,586 --> 00:52:06,590
"What's your company doing for the environment?"
1115
00:52:06,590 --> 00:52:08,191
And we didn't have answers.
1116
00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:10,826
The real answer was not very much,
1117
00:52:10,827 --> 00:52:13,730
and it really disturbed many of our people,
1118
00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:15,965
not me so much as them.
1119
00:52:15,965 --> 00:52:18,501
And a group in our research department
1120
00:52:19,369 --> 00:52:21,403
decided to convene a task force
1121
00:52:21,403 --> 00:52:24,306
and bring people from our businesses around the world
1122
00:52:24,306 --> 00:52:25,708
to come together to assess
1123
00:52:25,708 --> 00:52:28,477
our company's worldwide environmental position,
1124
00:52:28,478 --> 00:52:31,780
to begin to frame answers for those customers.
1125
00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:34,617
They asked me if I would come and speak to that group
1126
00:52:34,617 --> 00:52:36,286
and give them a kickoff speech
1127
00:52:36,286 --> 00:52:39,556
to launch this new task force with an environmental vision,
1128
00:52:40,789 --> 00:52:44,161
and I didn't have an environmental vision.
1129
00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:46,596
I did not want to make that speech.
1130
00:52:47,463 --> 00:52:50,333
And at sort of the propitious moment
1131
00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:52,001
this book landed on my desk.
1132
00:52:52,001 --> 00:52:56,405
It was Paul Hawken's book "The Ecology of Commerce."
1133
00:52:56,405 --> 00:52:58,875
And I began to read "The Ecology of Commerce",
1134
00:52:58,875 --> 00:53:00,911
really desperate for inspiration,
1135
00:53:00,911 --> 00:53:04,548
and very quickly into that book
1136
00:53:04,547 --> 00:53:07,316
I found the phrase "the death of birth."
1137
00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:12,521
It was E.O Wilson's expression for species extinction,
1138
00:53:12,521 --> 00:53:13,623
"the death of birth,"
1139
00:53:13,623 --> 00:53:17,894
and it was a point of a spear into my chest.
1140
00:53:17,893 --> 00:53:20,296
And I read on and the spear went deeper,
1141
00:53:20,297 --> 00:53:22,264
and it became an epiphanal experience,
1142
00:53:22,264 --> 00:53:26,235
a total change of mindset for myself,
1143
00:53:26,235 --> 00:53:28,871
and a change of paradigm.
1144
00:53:28,871 --> 00:53:32,241
(dramatic orchestral music)
1145
00:53:32,242 --> 00:53:34,544
Can any product be made sustainably?
1146
00:53:34,543 --> 00:53:36,612
Well, not any and every product.
1147
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,449
Can you make landmines sustainably?
1148
00:53:40,449 --> 00:53:41,650
Well, I don't think so.
1149
00:53:43,018 --> 00:53:44,721
There's a more fundamental question
1150
00:53:44,721 --> 00:53:47,123
than that about landmines.
1151
00:53:47,123 --> 00:53:49,192
Some products ought not be made at all.
1152
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:53,629
Unless we can make carpets sustainably,
1153
00:53:54,664 --> 00:53:57,934
perhaps we don't have a place in a sustainable world.
1154
00:53:57,934 --> 00:54:02,539
but neither does anybody else making products unsustainably.
1155
00:54:03,907 --> 00:54:06,309
One day early in this journey
1156
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:11,314
it dawned on me that the way I've been running Interface
1157
00:54:11,380 --> 00:54:12,882
is the way of the plunderer,
1158
00:54:14,117 --> 00:54:16,553
plundering something that's not mine,
1159
00:54:16,552 --> 00:54:20,656
something that belongs to every creature on earth.
1160
00:54:20,657 --> 00:54:23,693
And I said to myself, "My goodness,
1161
00:54:23,693 --> 00:54:26,096
the day must come when this is illegal,
1162
00:54:27,364 --> 00:54:30,066
when plundering is not allowed.
1163
00:54:30,065 --> 00:54:31,367
It must come."
1164
00:54:33,036 --> 00:54:34,503
I said to myself, "My goodness,
1165
00:54:34,503 --> 00:54:37,574
someday people like me will end up in jail."
1166
00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:40,710
(contemplative music)
1167
00:54:46,416 --> 00:54:48,018
- I gotta be honest with you.
1168
00:54:48,018 --> 00:54:50,253
When the September 11 situation happened
1169
00:54:51,420 --> 00:54:53,389
I didn't know that the, (laughs)
1170
00:54:53,389 --> 00:54:54,523
and I must say
1171
00:54:54,523 --> 00:54:57,559
and I want to say this because
1172
00:54:59,195 --> 00:55:00,497
I don't want to take it lightly,
1173
00:55:00,496 --> 00:55:01,830
it's not a light situation,
1174
00:55:01,831 --> 00:55:05,367
it's a devastating act,
1175
00:55:05,367 --> 00:55:08,003
it was really a bad thing,
1176
00:55:08,003 --> 00:55:10,472
one of the worst things I've seen in my lifetime,
1177
00:55:11,541 --> 00:55:14,711
but I will tell you and every trader will tell you,
1178
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:16,645
who was not in that building
1179
00:55:16,646 --> 00:55:20,283
and who was buying gold and who owned gold and silver,
1180
00:55:20,282 --> 00:55:22,018
that when it happened
1181
00:55:22,018 --> 00:55:24,119
the first thing you thought about was,
1182
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:25,554
"Well how much is gold up?"
1183
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:28,291
The first thing that came to mind was,
1184
00:55:28,291 --> 00:55:30,693
"My god, gold must be exploding."
1185
00:55:31,628 --> 00:55:34,130
Fortunately for us, all our clients were in gold,
1186
00:55:35,264 --> 00:55:36,266
so when it went up,
1187
00:55:36,266 --> 00:55:38,534
they all doubled their money!
1188
00:55:38,534 --> 00:55:40,036
Everybody doubled their money.
1189
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:43,773
It was a blessing in disguise.
1190
00:55:43,773 --> 00:55:44,641
Devastating,
1191
00:55:46,141 --> 00:55:47,543
crushing,
1192
00:55:47,543 --> 00:55:49,144
heart-shattering,
1193
00:55:49,144 --> 00:55:50,913
but on a financial sense,
1194
00:55:50,914 --> 00:55:52,682
for my clients that were in the market,
1195
00:55:52,681 --> 00:55:53,515
they all made money.
1196
00:55:53,516 --> 00:55:56,086
Now I wasn't looking for this type of help,
1197
00:55:59,856 --> 00:56:00,724
but it happened.
1198
00:56:00,724 --> 00:56:05,729
When the U.S. bombed Iraq back in 1991
1199
00:56:05,961 --> 00:56:09,164
the price of oil went from $13
1200
00:56:09,164 --> 00:56:11,668
to $40 a barrel for Christ's sake.
1201
00:56:12,936 --> 00:56:14,237
Now we couldn't wait for the bomb
1202
00:56:14,237 --> 00:56:16,840
to start raining down on Saddam Hussein.
1203
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,276
(light electronic music)
1204
00:56:21,945 --> 00:56:23,113
We were all excited.
1205
00:56:23,112 --> 00:56:25,714
We wanted Saddam to really create problems,
1206
00:56:25,715 --> 00:56:27,182
do whatever you have to do,
1207
00:56:27,182 --> 00:56:28,818
set fire to some more oil wells,
1208
00:56:28,818 --> 00:56:30,787
because the price is gonna go higher.
1209
00:56:30,786 --> 00:56:32,254
Every broker was chanting that.
1210
00:56:32,255 --> 00:56:33,890
There was not a broker that I know of
1211
00:56:33,889 --> 00:56:35,424
that wasn't excited about that.
1212
00:56:38,594 --> 00:56:39,461
This was a disaster.
1213
00:56:39,461 --> 00:56:42,297
This was something that was a catastrophe happening,
1214
00:56:42,297 --> 00:56:43,465
bombing, wars.
1215
00:56:46,034 --> 00:56:48,437
In devastation there is opportunity.
1216
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,143
(dramatic orchestral music)
1217
00:56:53,143 --> 00:56:55,512
- [Narrator] The pursuit of profit is an old story,
1218
00:56:55,512 --> 00:56:57,914
but there was a time when many things were regarded
1219
00:56:57,914 --> 00:57:01,584
either as too sacred or too essential for the public good
1220
00:57:01,583 --> 00:57:04,620
to be considered business opportunities.
1221
00:57:04,621 --> 00:57:07,657
They were protected by tradition and public regulation.
1222
00:57:15,532 --> 00:57:17,467
- We can really begin to take a look
1223
00:57:17,467 --> 00:57:19,735
at the emergence of the modern age
1224
00:57:19,735 --> 00:57:22,638
with the enclosure movements of the Great European Commons
1225
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:25,742
in the 14th, 15th, and 16th century.
1226
00:57:25,742 --> 00:57:29,012
Medieval life was a collectively lived life.
1227
00:57:29,012 --> 00:57:31,080
It was a brutish, nasty affair,
1228
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:33,715
but there was a collective responsibility.
1229
00:57:33,715 --> 00:57:34,983
People belong to the land.
1230
00:57:34,983 --> 00:57:36,985
The land did not belong to people,
1231
00:57:36,985 --> 00:57:38,954
and in this European world,
1232
00:57:38,954 --> 00:57:41,757
people farmed the land in a collective way
1233
00:57:41,757 --> 00:57:43,192
because they saw it as a commons.
1234
00:57:43,193 --> 00:57:44,394
It belonged to God,
1235
00:57:44,393 --> 00:57:47,830
and then it was administered by the church, the aristocracy,
1236
00:57:47,831 --> 00:57:52,268
and then the local manors as stewards of God's creation.
1237
00:57:53,369 --> 00:57:55,171
Beginning with Tudor England
1238
00:57:55,170 --> 00:57:56,905
we began to see a phenomenon emerge,
1239
00:57:56,905 --> 00:57:59,275
and that is the enclosure of the great commons
1240
00:57:59,275 --> 00:58:02,010
by parliamentary acts in England and then in Europe.
1241
00:58:02,010 --> 00:58:03,646
And so first we began to take
1242
00:58:03,646 --> 00:58:05,281
the great land masses of the world
1243
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,083
which were commons and shared,
1244
00:58:07,083 --> 00:58:09,485
and we reduced those to private property.
1245
00:58:09,485 --> 00:58:10,920
Then we went after the oceans,
1246
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,021
the great oceanic commons,
1247
00:58:12,021 --> 00:58:14,791
and we created laws and regulations
1248
00:58:14,791 --> 00:58:16,559
that would allow countries to claim
1249
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:18,595
a certain amount of water outside
1250
00:58:18,594 --> 00:58:21,129
their coastal limits for exploitation.
1251
00:58:21,130 --> 00:58:22,999
In this century we went after the air
1252
00:58:22,998 --> 00:58:24,867
and we divided it into air corridors
1253
00:58:24,867 --> 00:58:26,101
that could be bought and sold
1254
00:58:26,101 --> 00:58:28,704
for commercial traffic for airplanes,
1255
00:58:28,704 --> 00:58:31,807
and then of course the rest is history.
1256
00:58:31,807 --> 00:58:34,476
(ominous music)
1257
00:58:39,916 --> 00:58:41,751
(people applauding)
1258
00:58:41,751 --> 00:58:45,722
- With deregulation, privatization, free trade,
1259
00:58:45,722 --> 00:58:50,326
what we're seeing is yet another enclosure,
1260
00:58:50,326 --> 00:58:53,929
and if you like, private taking of the commons.
1261
00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:56,833
One of the things I find very interesting
1262
00:58:56,833 --> 00:58:58,367
in our current debates
1263
00:58:58,367 --> 00:59:01,804
is this concept of who creates wealth,
1264
00:59:01,804 --> 00:59:06,409
that wealth is only created when it's owned privately.
1265
00:59:06,409 --> 00:59:09,746
What would you call clean water, fresh air,
1266
00:59:09,746 --> 00:59:10,914
a safe environment?
1267
00:59:10,914 --> 00:59:13,082
Are they not a form of wealth?
1268
00:59:13,081 --> 00:59:15,250
And why does it only become wealth
1269
00:59:15,251 --> 00:59:18,153
when some entity puts a fence around it
1270
00:59:18,153 --> 00:59:20,322
and declares it private property?
1271
00:59:20,322 --> 00:59:22,424
Well, that's not wealth creation.
1272
00:59:22,425 --> 00:59:23,793
That's wealth usurption.
1273
00:59:25,961 --> 00:59:28,498
- Over the centuries we have put more and more things
1274
00:59:28,498 --> 00:59:29,731
in that public realm,
1275
00:59:29,731 --> 00:59:31,166
and lately, just lately,
1276
00:59:31,166 --> 00:59:33,068
in the last let's say three or four decades,
1277
00:59:33,068 --> 00:59:34,771
started pulling them out again.
1278
00:59:34,771 --> 00:59:37,640
So firefighters, for instance.
1279
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:38,473
(coughing)
1280
00:59:38,474 --> 00:59:40,809
- [Narrator] This man needs the fire department.
1281
00:59:40,809 --> 00:59:44,313
- [Matt] Firefighters started as private companies.
1282
00:59:44,313 --> 00:59:45,949
- [Narrator] Yes, and lots of other people
1283
00:59:45,949 --> 00:59:48,483
need the fire department too.
1284
00:59:48,483 --> 00:59:50,152
- And if you didn't have the medallion
1285
00:59:50,152 --> 00:59:53,322
of a given firefighter brigade on your house
1286
00:59:53,322 --> 00:59:54,656
and it was on fire,
1287
00:59:54,657 --> 00:59:57,160
then those firefighters would just ride on by,
1288
00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:59,428
because you didn't have a deal.
1289
00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:02,764
Well, we gradually evolved a public trust
1290
01:00:02,764 --> 01:00:06,702
for the provision of safety on that very specific level.
1291
01:00:09,172 --> 01:00:09,972
This is important.
1292
01:00:09,972 --> 01:00:11,641
We should not go back from that
1293
01:00:11,641 --> 01:00:13,309
and start saying, "Well,
1294
01:00:13,309 --> 01:00:14,711
why don't we put that back in the market
1295
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:15,544
and see what that does.
1296
01:00:15,545 --> 01:00:17,380
Maybe it'll make it more efficient."
1297
01:00:17,380 --> 01:00:21,050
(dramatic orchestral music)
1298
01:00:26,356 --> 01:00:28,391
- The privatization does not mean
1299
01:00:28,391 --> 01:00:30,793
you take a public institution
1300
01:00:30,793 --> 01:00:32,394
and give it to some nice person.
1301
01:00:35,164 --> 01:00:37,000
It means you take a public institution
1302
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,068
and give it to an unaccountable tyranny.
1303
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:46,975
Public institutions have many side benefits.
1304
01:00:47,976 --> 01:00:51,114
For one thing they may purposely run at a loss.
1305
01:00:51,114 --> 01:00:52,715
They're not out for profit.
1306
01:00:52,715 --> 01:00:54,784
They may purposely run at a loss
1307
01:00:54,784 --> 01:00:56,653
because of the side benefits.
1308
01:00:56,652 --> 01:01:00,656
So for example, if a public steel industry runs at a loss,
1309
01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:03,826
it's providing cheap steel to other industries.
1310
01:01:03,826 --> 01:01:05,128
Maybe that's a good thing.
1311
01:01:07,195 --> 01:01:10,333
Public institutions can have a counter-cyclic property,
1312
01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:13,836
so that means that they can maintain employment
1313
01:01:13,835 --> 01:01:15,904
in periods of recession,
1314
01:01:15,905 --> 01:01:17,306
which increases demand,
1315
01:01:17,306 --> 01:01:19,175
which helps you get out of recession.
1316
01:01:20,143 --> 01:01:21,644
A private company can't do that.
1317
01:01:21,643 --> 01:01:24,546
The recession, throw out the workforce, so you make money.
1318
01:01:25,514 --> 01:01:28,083
- There are those who intend that one day
1319
01:01:28,083 --> 01:01:30,652
everything will be owned by somebody.
1320
01:01:30,652 --> 01:01:33,255
And we're not just talking goods here.
1321
01:01:33,255 --> 01:01:36,525
We're talking human rights, human services,
1322
01:01:36,525 --> 01:01:38,661
essential services for life,
1323
01:01:38,661 --> 01:01:40,762
education, public health,
1324
01:01:40,762 --> 01:01:43,865
social assistance, pensions, housing.
1325
01:01:45,101 --> 01:01:46,836
We're also talking about
1326
01:01:47,737 --> 01:01:50,907
the survival of the planet,
1327
01:01:50,907 --> 01:01:54,811
the areas that we believe must be maintained
1328
01:01:54,811 --> 01:01:57,013
in the commons or under common control
1329
01:01:57,012 --> 01:01:59,481
or we will collectively die,
1330
01:01:59,481 --> 01:02:01,516
water and air.
1331
01:02:01,516 --> 01:02:04,786
(dramatic orchestral music)
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- Even in the case of air there's been some progress.
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And here the idea is to say,
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"Look, we can't avoid the dumping of carbon dioxide.
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We can't avoid the dumping of sulphur oxides.
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At least we can't at the moment afford to stop doing that."
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So we're dumping a certain amount of stuff
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into the environment,
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so we're going to say
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with the current tonnage of sulphur oxides for example,
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we will say that is the limit
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and we'll create permits for that amount,
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we'd give them to the people
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who've been doing the polluting,
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and now we will permit them to be traded.
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And so now there's a price attached
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to polluting the environment.
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Now wouldn't it be marvelous
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if we had one of those prices for everything?
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- [Interviewer] It sounds like you're advocating
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private ownership of every square inch of the planet.
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- Absolutely.
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- [Interviewer] Every cubic foot of air, water.
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- It sounds outlandish to say
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we want to have the whole universe,
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the whole of the earth owned.
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That doesn't mean I want to have
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Joe Bloggs owning this square foot,
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but it means that the interests
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that are involved in that stream
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are owned by some group or by some people
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who have an interest in maintaining it.
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And that is not such a loony idea.
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It's in fact the solution to a lot of these problems.
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(light electronic music)
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(party horn blowing) (people chattering)
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- [Kid] I tried to throw it on there!
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- [Narrator] Imagine a world in which
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one of the things owned by a corporation
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was the song "Happy Birthday."
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In fact, an AOL Time Warner subsidiary holds the copyright.
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In the past, it is demanded over $10,000
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to allow you to hear anyone
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sing this popular song in a film.
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We didn't pay.
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(air blowing)
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We prefer to use the money
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to fly our crew to Boston and Los Angeles
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to bring you the following story.
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- [Ad Announcer] Five, four, three, two, one!
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Off into space!
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Man, that takes real teamwork!
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And here's a team of junior spacemen
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with an out-of-this-world breakfast!
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- [Susan] Comparing the marketing of yesteryear
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to the marketing of today
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is like comparing a BB gun to a smart bomb.
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- [Ad Announcer] Refreshing V8 juice!
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- It's not the same as when I was a kid
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or even when the people
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who are young adults today were kids.
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(grand orchestral music)
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It's much more sophisticated and it's much more pervasive.
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It's not that products themselves are bad or good.
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It's the notion of manipulating children
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into buying the products.
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(light electronic music)
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In 1998, Western International Media,
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Century City, and Lieberman Research Worldwide
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conducted a study on nagging.
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- We asked parents to keep a diary for three weeks
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and to record every time, you could imagine,
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every time their child nagged them for a product.
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We asked them to record when, where, and why.
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- This study was not to help parents cope with nagging.
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It was to help corporations
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help children nag for their products more effectively.
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- Anywhere from 20% to 40% of purchases
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would not have occurred
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unless the child had nagged their parents.
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That is we found, for example,
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a quarter of all visits to theme parks
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wouldn't have occurred unless a child nagged the parents.
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Four out of 10 visits to places like Chuck E. Cheese
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would not have occurred.
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Any parent would understand that.
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When I think of Chuck E. Cheese,
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oh my goodness, it's noise.
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♪ Cause we're going to Chuck E. Cheese's ♪
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- And there's so many kids.
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Why would I want to spend two hours there?
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But if the child nags enough, you're gonna go.
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We saw the same thing with movies,
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with home video, with fast food.
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We do have to break through this barrier
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where they do tell us
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or they say they don't like it when their kids nag.
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Well that's just a general attitude that they possess.
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It doesn't mean that they necessarily act on a product
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100% of the time.
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You can manipulate consumers
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into wanting and therefore buying your products.
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It's a game.
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- Children are not little adults.
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Their minds aren't developed.
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And what's happening is that marketers
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are playing to their developmental vulnerabilities.
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(dramatic orchestral music)
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The advertising that children are exposed to today
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is honed by psychologists,
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it's enhanced by media technology
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that nobody ever thought was possible.
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- The more insight you have about the consumer,
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the more creative you'll be
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in your communication strategies.
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So if that takes a psychologist,
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yeah, we want one of those on staff.
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- I'm not saying that it's wrong
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to make things for children.
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01:07:29,045 --> 01:07:31,079
I also think it's important to distinguish
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between psychologists who work on products for children,
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who help toy corporations make toys
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01:07:38,454 --> 01:07:40,156
that are developmentally appropriate.
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01:07:40,155 --> 01:07:41,090
I think that's great.
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That's different from selling the toys
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directly to the children.
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- Initiative is huge.
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I think in the U.S.
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we place about $12 billion of media time.
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So we'll put it on TV,
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we'll put it in print,
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we'll put it up in outdoor,
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we'll buy radio time.
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So we're the biggest buyers of advertising time and space
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in the U.S. and in the world.
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- One family cannot combat an industry
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that spends $12 billion a year trying to get their children.
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They can't do it.
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- They are tomorrow's adult consumers,
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so start talking with them now,
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build that relationship when they're younger,
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and you've got them as an adult.
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Somebody asked me, "Lucy, is that ethical?
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You're essentially manipulating these children."
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01:08:30,038 --> 01:08:33,041
Well, yeah, is it ethical, I don't know,
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but our role at Initiative is to move products,
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and if we know you move products
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with a certain creative execution
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placed in a certain type of media vehicle,
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then we've done our job.
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♪ Pull it push it grab it bump it save it race it ♪
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- Every institution provides
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the people who are members of it
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with a social role to occupy,
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01:08:55,631 --> 01:08:58,968
and typically institutions that are vibrant
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and have a lot of power
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will specify that role
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in some sense as a list of virtues.
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It's true for churches, for schools,
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for any institution that has power over people
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and shapes them.
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- [Everyone] One nation.
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- The corporation likewise,
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it provides us with a list of virtues,
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a kind of social role,
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which is the good consumer.
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- [Narrator] Like the waters of a mighty ocean,
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people also represent a tremendous force,
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the understanding of which is of greatest importance
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to the American way of life.
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01:09:33,636 --> 01:09:36,238
This force is known as consumer power.
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01:09:37,739 --> 01:09:39,375
- The goal for the corporations
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01:09:39,375 --> 01:09:43,279
is to maximize profit and market share,
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01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:46,048
and they also have a goal for their target,
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01:09:46,047 --> 01:09:47,649
namely the population.
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01:09:47,649 --> 01:09:52,654
They have to be turned into completely mindless consumers
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of goods that they do not want.
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01:09:55,623 --> 01:09:59,494
You have to develop what are called created wants.
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01:09:59,494 --> 01:10:01,863
So you have to create wants.
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01:10:01,863 --> 01:10:03,364
You have to impose on people
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what's called a philosophy of futility.
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You have to focus them on the insignificant things of life
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like fashionable consumption.
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I'm just basically quoting business literature.
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And it makes perfect sense,
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the ideal is to have individuals
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who are totally dissociated from one another,
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whose conception of themselves,
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the sense of value is
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just how many created wants can I satisfy.
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(light chiming music)
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- [Narrator] These people are customers
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because they are willing to trade money for widgets.
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01:10:44,305 --> 01:10:47,442
And all the customers take their widgets home
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01:10:47,443 --> 01:10:49,677
to all parts of the country.
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01:10:50,679 --> 01:10:53,315
Look at all that money the widget builder has taken in
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01:10:53,314 --> 01:10:55,483
from the sale of his widgets.
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01:10:55,484 --> 01:10:57,086
- With huge industries,
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01:10:57,086 --> 01:11:00,322
public relations industry is a monstrous industry,
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advertising and so on,
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01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:05,094
which are designed from infancy
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01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:09,931
to try to mold people into this desired pattern.
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01:11:13,034 --> 01:11:14,869
(cheerful music)
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01:11:14,869 --> 01:11:16,104
- [Chris Voiceover] We saw Tiger Woods on TV
1535
01:11:16,104 --> 01:11:18,473
with a hat with a Nike logo on it,
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01:11:18,474 --> 01:11:21,409
and we figured he probably gets like millions of dollars
1537
01:11:21,409 --> 01:11:23,311
just to wear the hat on the press conference,
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01:11:23,311 --> 01:11:25,613
and therefore we figured we can do that for someone else
1539
01:11:25,613 --> 01:11:28,683
and hopefully get money in turn so we can go to school.
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01:11:29,551 --> 01:11:32,454
And that's how we came up with being corporately sponsored.
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01:11:32,453 --> 01:11:33,488
- [Luke] We made our sponsor announcement
1542
01:11:33,488 --> 01:11:35,256
on Today Show on June 18th.
1543
01:11:35,256 --> 01:11:37,358
- We're corporately sponsored by First USA.
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01:11:37,359 --> 01:11:39,194
First we'll be working with First USA
1545
01:11:39,194 --> 01:11:40,496
as our corporate sponsor
1546
01:11:40,496 --> 01:11:41,829
and they're covering our college tuition.
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01:11:41,829 --> 01:11:43,698
- We found First USA as our sponsor,
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01:11:43,698 --> 01:11:45,067
and we're proud to be working with them.
1549
01:11:45,067 --> 01:11:46,969
- Our sponsor is First USA.
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01:11:46,969 --> 01:11:49,938
So we're really thrilled to announce
1551
01:11:49,938 --> 01:11:51,273
First USA as our sponsor.
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01:11:51,273 --> 01:11:53,809
We're thrilled to be working with First USA.
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01:11:53,809 --> 01:11:55,244
- [Chris] And so we give First USA
1554
01:11:55,243 --> 01:11:56,478
a good name in the media
1555
01:11:57,546 --> 01:11:58,380
and include them in our news stories,
1556
01:11:58,380 --> 01:12:00,114
and then through there they get
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01:12:00,114 --> 01:12:02,583
as much advertising as we can give them.
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01:12:02,583 --> 01:12:03,851
- They'll be conforming
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01:12:03,851 --> 01:12:06,154
not to the wishes of demanding parents,
1560
01:12:06,154 --> 01:12:09,557
but to the wishes of an image-conscious corporation.
1561
01:12:09,557 --> 01:12:11,627
- They're not just out there for the money.
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01:12:11,627 --> 01:12:14,530
They want to work with us and be our friends
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01:12:14,529 --> 01:12:17,599
and let us help them help us and vice versa.
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01:12:17,599 --> 01:12:20,402
We became walking billboards to pay for our college tuition.
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01:12:20,402 --> 01:12:21,603
- [Show Host] Say what?
1566
01:12:21,603 --> 01:12:22,438
- [Luke] Cool Site of the Day
1567
01:12:22,438 --> 01:12:23,639
picked us as a Cool Site,
1568
01:12:23,639 --> 01:12:24,707
and Yahoo picked us,
1569
01:12:24,707 --> 01:12:27,042
and we were in USA Today.
1570
01:12:27,042 --> 01:12:30,145
- When we did our photo shoot for People magazine,
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01:12:30,145 --> 01:12:32,981
this is where we stood, up on top.
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01:12:35,583 --> 01:12:36,417
(Luke laughs)
1573
01:12:36,417 --> 01:12:37,251
- We stood up here and we smiled.
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01:12:37,252 --> 01:12:38,821
- We smiled and took the picture.
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01:12:40,055 --> 01:12:42,057
- [Luke] Our parents had war stories and stuff to tell us,
1576
01:12:42,056 --> 01:12:44,626
but (laughs) we have our corporate sponsor story.
1577
01:12:44,626 --> 01:12:46,128
- Exactly.
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01:12:46,127 --> 01:12:47,795
(triumphant music)
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01:12:47,796 --> 01:12:49,597
I have a lot of faith in the corporate world,
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01:12:49,597 --> 01:12:51,132
because it's always gonna be there,
1581
01:12:51,132 --> 01:12:52,333
so you may as well have faith in it,
1582
01:12:52,333 --> 01:12:54,970
because if you don't, then it's just not good.
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01:12:56,572 --> 01:12:58,539
- [Narrator] Some of the best creative minds are employed
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01:12:58,539 --> 01:13:01,777
to assure our faith in the corporate worldview.
1585
01:13:01,777 --> 01:13:04,846
They seduce us with beguiling illusions
1586
01:13:04,846 --> 01:13:06,814
designed to divert our minds
1587
01:13:06,814 --> 01:13:09,083
and manufacture our consent.
1588
01:13:09,083 --> 01:13:12,688
(weighty electronic music)
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- Corporations don't advertise products particularly.
1590
01:13:19,293 --> 01:13:22,096
They're advertising a way of life, a way of thinking,
1591
01:13:22,096 --> 01:13:26,234
a story of who we are as people and how we got here
1592
01:13:26,234 --> 01:13:28,636
and what's the source of our so-called liberty
1593
01:13:28,636 --> 01:13:30,238
and our so-called freedom.
1594
01:13:30,238 --> 01:13:33,141
So you have decades and decades and decades
1595
01:13:33,141 --> 01:13:34,576
of propaganda and education
1596
01:13:34,576 --> 01:13:36,944
teaching us to think in a certain way.
1597
01:13:36,944 --> 01:13:39,213
When applied to the large corporation,
1598
01:13:39,213 --> 01:13:42,184
it's that the corporation was inevitable,
1599
01:13:42,184 --> 01:13:43,552
that it's indispensable,
1600
01:13:43,551 --> 01:13:45,753
that is somehow is remarkably efficient,
1601
01:13:45,753 --> 01:13:50,759
and that it is responsible for progress and a good life.
1602
01:13:50,993 --> 01:13:54,430
(grand orchestral music)
1603
01:14:02,304 --> 01:14:05,373
- Perception management is a very interesting concept.
1604
01:14:05,373 --> 01:14:07,509
It's basically a methodology
1605
01:14:07,509 --> 01:14:10,546
which helps us when we work with our clients
1606
01:14:10,546 --> 01:14:14,550
to go through a very systematic, thoughtful process
1607
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:17,953
in order to be able to help our clients identify
1608
01:14:17,953 --> 01:14:20,222
what the resources are that they have,
1609
01:14:20,221 --> 01:14:22,690
what the barriers to their success are,
1610
01:14:22,690 --> 01:14:25,126
and how we can use communications
1611
01:14:25,127 --> 01:14:27,262
to help them accomplish their objectives.
1612
01:14:27,261 --> 01:14:30,666
(light orchestral music)
1613
01:14:36,805 --> 01:14:39,875
If Michael or Angelica came to me and said,
1614
01:14:39,875 --> 01:14:43,578
"Dad, what do you do, and why is it important?"
1615
01:14:44,779 --> 01:14:46,981
my answer to that question is basically
1616
01:14:46,981 --> 01:14:49,318
that I help corporations have a voice.
1617
01:14:55,890 --> 01:14:58,192
And I help corporations share the point of view
1618
01:14:58,193 --> 01:14:59,862
about how they feel about things.
1619
01:15:04,565 --> 01:15:05,766
- They're selling themselves.
1620
01:15:05,766 --> 01:15:08,002
They're selling their domination.
1621
01:15:08,002 --> 01:15:09,270
They're selling their rule,
1622
01:15:09,270 --> 01:15:11,038
and they're creating an image for themselves
1623
01:15:11,038 --> 01:15:12,974
as just regular folks down the block.
1624
01:15:14,576 --> 01:15:16,677
- Hi, how you all doing today?
1625
01:15:16,677 --> 01:15:17,512
Good to see you.
1626
01:15:18,913 --> 01:15:20,916
How are you doing today?
1627
01:15:20,916 --> 01:15:22,918
Hi, how you doing today?
1628
01:15:22,917 --> 01:15:24,185
We're from Pfizer.
1629
01:15:24,185 --> 01:15:25,152
We're your neighbors.
1630
01:15:25,153 --> 01:15:26,320
You're in the new houses?
1631
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,154
- [Woman] Huh?
1632
01:15:27,154 --> 01:15:27,989
- Are you in the new houses?
1633
01:15:27,989 --> 01:15:28,856
- Yeah, just right there.
1634
01:15:28,856 --> 01:15:30,958
- Oh, these are some neighbors.
1635
01:15:31,894 --> 01:15:33,395
Can we say hello?
1636
01:15:33,395 --> 01:15:34,229
- Huh?
1637
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:35,697
- Can we say hello just for a minute?
1638
01:15:36,765 --> 01:15:39,268
So what do you think of the neighborhood now?
1639
01:15:39,268 --> 01:15:40,536
- [Woman] It's all right, it's good.
1640
01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,136
- Yeah, I think it's been getting better
1641
01:15:42,136 --> 01:15:44,972
over the last 20 years that I've been coming here.
1642
01:15:44,972 --> 01:15:45,806
Yeah.
1643
01:15:45,806 --> 01:15:47,041
So I think together,
1644
01:15:47,042 --> 01:15:50,012
working with you and Pfizer and our other partnership
1645
01:15:50,011 --> 01:15:51,345
we'll make this a better place.
1646
01:15:51,345 --> 01:15:52,613
- Okay. - Okay.
1647
01:15:52,613 --> 01:15:53,447
- Bye. - Nice to see you,
1648
01:15:53,448 --> 01:15:54,583
Miss Fraser, bye.
1649
01:15:58,220 --> 01:16:00,655
There used to be a lot of crime at this subway.
1650
01:16:00,655 --> 01:16:02,757
One night as I was going home
1651
01:16:02,757 --> 01:16:04,826
I got caught and was almost mugged,
1652
01:16:06,662 --> 01:16:09,798
and so we decided to make a change
1653
01:16:09,797 --> 01:16:11,365
to make this community better.
1654
01:16:13,601 --> 01:16:16,371
(light electronic music)
1655
01:16:16,371 --> 01:16:20,908
We're looking at turnstiles that prevent fare beating.
1656
01:16:20,908 --> 01:16:24,045
It used to be that you could just hop right over.
1657
01:16:24,046 --> 01:16:27,548
So Pfizer, in collaboration with the Transit Authority,
1658
01:16:27,548 --> 01:16:31,920
actually purchased these machines.
1659
01:16:36,324 --> 01:16:40,095
This is a talk-back box that allows us to speak
1660
01:16:40,095 --> 01:16:41,630
to the Pfizer guard,
1661
01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:44,498
which is approximately 500 yards from here.
1662
01:16:45,399 --> 01:16:47,234
Now I haven't seen the Pfizer guard today,
1663
01:16:47,234 --> 01:16:48,703
but I'm gonna see if I can call him.
1664
01:16:48,703 --> 01:16:51,105
If he's not, I'll have to go wake him up.
1665
01:16:51,105 --> 01:16:53,108
Hello, hello, Tom Klein speaking.
1666
01:16:56,243 --> 01:16:59,547
So I'm sure before we're through he'll call back.
1667
01:16:59,547 --> 01:17:01,449
But particularly on the off hours,
1668
01:17:01,449 --> 01:17:05,586
this allows a passenger to call directly
1669
01:17:05,587 --> 01:17:08,123
to the Pfizer desk for assistance,
1670
01:17:08,122 --> 01:17:11,626
and then the Pfizer guard calls the transit police,
1671
01:17:11,627 --> 01:17:15,964
and the transit police respond to any crime situation.
1672
01:17:15,963 --> 01:17:17,164
As a result of all this,
1673
01:17:17,164 --> 01:17:18,600
crime is down in the station.
1674
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,370
It's much safer for our community partners.
1675
01:17:21,369 --> 01:17:22,203
Thank you.
1676
01:17:26,807 --> 01:17:27,743
(laughs)
1677
01:17:27,743 --> 01:17:31,513
We'll press the other button just to be sure.
1678
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,250
Tom speaking, hello.
1679
01:17:36,251 --> 01:17:38,119
We'll stop over and see him personally.
1680
01:17:38,119 --> 01:17:39,688
(laughs)
1681
01:17:39,688 --> 01:17:43,125
(light orchestral music)
1682
01:17:45,961 --> 01:17:47,429
- It's tough.
1683
01:17:47,429 --> 01:17:50,198
They're putting some taxpayer and shareholder money
1684
01:17:50,198 --> 01:17:52,701
into helping, and who can say,
1685
01:17:52,701 --> 01:17:54,836
but that money should be going to the taxpayers
1686
01:17:54,836 --> 01:17:56,304
to decide what to do.
1687
01:17:57,271 --> 01:18:00,074
And while they're doing those sort of nice things,
1688
01:18:00,074 --> 01:18:01,376
they're also playing a role
1689
01:18:01,376 --> 01:18:03,110
in lowering taxes for corporations
1690
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:05,413
and lowering taxes for wealthy people
1691
01:18:05,413 --> 01:18:07,715
and reconfiguring public policy.
1692
01:18:07,716 --> 01:18:08,717
What we don't see is all
1693
01:18:08,716 --> 01:18:10,051
that reconfiguring going on.
1694
01:18:10,051 --> 01:18:12,253
We don't see them vacuum out the money,
1695
01:18:12,253 --> 01:18:14,756
vacuum out the insides of public processes,
1696
01:18:14,756 --> 01:18:16,658
but we do see the nice facade.
1697
01:18:18,493 --> 01:18:19,628
(cash register dings)
1698
01:18:19,627 --> 01:18:22,797
(pleasant jazz music)
1699
01:18:45,220 --> 01:18:47,588
- When I was researching the takeover of public space,
1700
01:18:47,588 --> 01:18:49,457
when I started off I thought,
1701
01:18:49,457 --> 01:18:50,858
"Okay, this is just advertising.
1702
01:18:50,859 --> 01:18:52,260
We've always had advertising.
1703
01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:54,496
It's just more advertising."
1704
01:18:54,496 --> 01:18:57,065
But what I started to understand and what I understand now
1705
01:18:57,064 --> 01:19:00,402
is that branding is not advertising, it's production,
1706
01:19:00,402 --> 01:19:02,604
and very successful corporations,
1707
01:19:02,604 --> 01:19:04,338
the corporations of the future,
1708
01:19:04,338 --> 01:19:05,806
do not produce products,
1709
01:19:05,806 --> 01:19:07,708
they produce brand meaning.
1710
01:19:08,577 --> 01:19:11,213
The dissemination of the idea of themselves
1711
01:19:11,212 --> 01:19:12,847
is their act of production,
1712
01:19:12,847 --> 01:19:15,149
and the dissemination of the idea of themselves
1713
01:19:15,149 --> 01:19:18,252
is an enormously invasive project.
1714
01:19:18,252 --> 01:19:20,521
So how do you make a brand idea real?
1715
01:19:20,521 --> 01:19:23,358
Well, a good place to start is
1716
01:19:23,358 --> 01:19:27,529
by building a three-dimensional manifestation of your brand.
1717
01:19:27,529 --> 01:19:30,632
For a company like Disney it goes even further,
1718
01:19:30,631 --> 01:19:32,466
where it's actually building a town,
1719
01:19:32,466 --> 01:19:33,969
Celebration, Florida.
1720
01:19:33,969 --> 01:19:36,304
- Currently there are about 5,000 residents
1721
01:19:36,304 --> 01:19:38,038
who call Celebration home,
1722
01:19:38,038 --> 01:19:40,809
and there are about 1,300 single-family homes,
1723
01:19:40,809 --> 01:19:44,546
a town center that's a place where people gather,
1724
01:19:44,546 --> 01:19:47,749
that has about four or five restaurants
1725
01:19:47,748 --> 01:19:51,153
and about a dozen other shops.
1726
01:19:51,153 --> 01:19:53,221
- [Naomi] Their inspiration, their brand image
1727
01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:56,123
is the all-American family
1728
01:19:56,123 --> 01:19:58,894
and the sort of bygone American town.
1729
01:19:58,894 --> 01:20:02,329
(light orchestral music)
1730
01:20:17,845 --> 01:20:21,382
- Their brand driver is family magic.
1731
01:20:21,382 --> 01:20:23,784
And everything that that company does
1732
01:20:23,784 --> 01:20:27,021
is in and around those two words.
1733
01:20:27,021 --> 01:20:28,890
If you take that,
1734
01:20:28,890 --> 01:20:32,761
a branded environment such as a Disney World or a Disneyland
1735
01:20:32,761 --> 01:20:35,864
is a logical extension of that brand.
1736
01:20:35,863 --> 01:20:39,701
Film, animated film, family-oriented film
1737
01:20:39,701 --> 01:20:42,671
is a very logical extension of that.
1738
01:20:42,671 --> 01:20:45,640
As a business though, they also know that
1739
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,177
if they want to get into other forms of entertainment
1740
01:20:49,176 --> 01:20:52,146
that does not fit family magic,
1741
01:20:52,146 --> 01:20:53,914
they do not brand it Disney.
1742
01:20:55,082 --> 01:20:59,453
If they want to get into adult, more serious type fare,
1743
01:20:59,453 --> 01:21:01,822
when it comes to film they brand it Touchstone.
1744
01:21:02,756 --> 01:21:03,591
(explosion booming)
1745
01:21:03,591 --> 01:21:05,426
- The Disney brand speaks of reassurance,
1746
01:21:05,426 --> 01:21:06,460
it speaks of tradition,
1747
01:21:06,461 --> 01:21:07,796
it speaks of quality,
1748
01:21:07,796 --> 01:21:09,831
and you can see that here
1749
01:21:09,831 --> 01:21:12,199
in this community that we've built.
1750
01:21:12,199 --> 01:21:14,469
- And that's where you see the truly
1751
01:21:14,469 --> 01:21:16,805
imperialist aspirations of branding,
1752
01:21:16,805 --> 01:21:21,610
which is about building these privatized branded cocoons,
1753
01:21:21,609 --> 01:21:24,211
which maybe you start by shopping in
1754
01:21:24,212 --> 01:21:26,748
and then you you continue by holidaying in,
1755
01:21:26,747 --> 01:21:29,884
but eventually why not just move in?
1756
01:21:29,885 --> 01:21:31,786
(energetic orchestral music)
1757
01:21:31,786 --> 01:21:34,154
- [Jeremy] What happens if we wake up one day
1758
01:21:34,154 --> 01:21:37,192
and we find out that virtually all of our relationships
1759
01:21:37,192 --> 01:21:39,994
that are mediated between us and our fellow human beings
1760
01:21:39,994 --> 01:21:41,528
are commercial,
1761
01:21:41,529 --> 01:21:44,933
we find out that virtually every relationship we have
1762
01:21:44,932 --> 01:21:47,068
is a commercially arbitrated relationship
1763
01:21:47,068 --> 01:21:48,503
with our fellow human being?
1764
01:21:48,502 --> 01:21:50,604
Can civilization survive
1765
01:21:50,604 --> 01:21:52,506
on that narrower definition
1766
01:21:52,506 --> 01:21:54,174
of how we interact with each other?
1767
01:21:54,175 --> 01:21:55,176
(alarm ringing)
1768
01:21:55,176 --> 01:21:58,446
- Wow, what a dream.
1769
01:21:58,445 --> 01:22:02,650
(light electronic music)
1770
01:22:02,650 --> 01:22:05,921
- I could give you a day in the life of a person
1771
01:22:05,921 --> 01:22:08,556
who might be the target of undercover marketing,
1772
01:22:08,555 --> 01:22:09,857
and I will tell you that
1773
01:22:09,858 --> 01:22:13,395
some of these things are happening right now around you.
1774
01:22:13,395 --> 01:22:15,964
So you walk out of your building in the morning, some city,
1775
01:22:15,963 --> 01:22:16,797
and you walk by the doorman,
1776
01:22:16,797 --> 01:22:18,565
you say, "Hey, good morning,"
1777
01:22:18,565 --> 01:22:21,368
and you notice there's a bunch of boxes at his feet
1778
01:22:21,368 --> 01:22:24,171
from some online or mail-order retailer,
1779
01:22:24,171 --> 01:22:25,706
and there's a bunch of boxes there
1780
01:22:25,707 --> 01:22:27,509
with of course big brand message on it.
1781
01:22:27,509 --> 01:22:28,475
You walk out, think,
1782
01:22:28,475 --> 01:22:30,945
"Wow, a lot of people must be ordering from that company."
1783
01:22:30,945 --> 01:22:33,448
What you don't know is that we paid the doorman
1784
01:22:33,448 --> 01:22:35,517
to keep those empty boxes there.
1785
01:22:35,516 --> 01:22:37,085
You walk out into the street
1786
01:22:37,085 --> 01:22:39,788
and you hear some people having kind of a loud conversation
1787
01:22:39,787 --> 01:22:42,690
about a musical act
1788
01:22:42,690 --> 01:22:44,893
and they're kind of passing the headphones back and forth,
1789
01:22:44,893 --> 01:22:46,427
like, "Wow, this is great."
1790
01:22:46,427 --> 01:22:47,394
- That is really-
1791
01:22:47,395 --> 01:22:48,229
- [Man] That good?
1792
01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:49,664
- [Jonathan] "Hey, do you know that
1793
01:22:49,663 --> 01:22:51,666
I heard this CD is really hard to find,
1794
01:22:51,666 --> 01:22:53,702
but I heard they sell it at Store X."
1795
01:22:54,636 --> 01:22:55,804
- I'm gonna go pick it up.
1796
01:22:55,804 --> 01:22:56,738
It's so good.
1797
01:22:56,738 --> 01:22:57,572
- [Man] It's great, isn't it?
1798
01:22:57,572 --> 01:22:58,405
- You hear that you register it
1799
01:22:58,405 --> 01:23:00,074
and you might kind of pick up on that,
1800
01:23:00,074 --> 01:23:01,608
and maybe later on you'll think,
1801
01:23:01,609 --> 01:23:03,044
"Hey, I wonder what the hot act is banging."
1802
01:23:03,043 --> 01:23:04,144
That might be in your head.
1803
01:23:04,145 --> 01:23:05,814
Now you get into your office
1804
01:23:05,814 --> 01:23:08,416
and there's a certain brand of water in the refrigerator.
1805
01:23:08,416 --> 01:23:09,250
What is that?
1806
01:23:10,518 --> 01:23:11,786
You take it out, you drink it, you slug it down,
1807
01:23:11,786 --> 01:23:14,622
it's there, and not really thinking about it,
1808
01:23:14,622 --> 01:23:16,224
"Wow, that's pretty good water."
1809
01:23:17,559 --> 01:23:18,525
Who knows?
1810
01:23:18,525 --> 01:23:19,994
Maybe someone placed the water there.
1811
01:23:19,994 --> 01:23:21,162
You kind of go out for your lunch break,
1812
01:23:21,162 --> 01:23:21,997
you're sitting in the park
1813
01:23:21,997 --> 01:23:24,699
and people are kind of out there talking in the park,
1814
01:23:24,698 --> 01:23:27,167
and bang, all the sudden you see another message.
1815
01:23:30,104 --> 01:23:33,307
By the time you go to bed you've probably received
1816
01:23:33,307 --> 01:23:36,845
eight or nine different undercover messages.
1817
01:23:36,845 --> 01:23:37,746
People are always thinking,
1818
01:23:37,746 --> 01:23:39,180
well, oh, I know product placement,
1819
01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:40,849
that's when they put stuff in movies.
1820
01:23:40,849 --> 01:23:42,182
Well, yes, kind of.
1821
01:23:42,182 --> 01:23:44,284
I mean, that's definitely traditional product placement,
1822
01:23:44,284 --> 01:23:46,488
but real-life product placement is just that,
1823
01:23:46,488 --> 01:23:50,057
placing stuff in movies, but the movie's actually your life.
1824
01:23:50,057 --> 01:23:52,327
We'll take a group of attainable
1825
01:23:52,327 --> 01:23:53,728
but still aspirational people.
1826
01:23:53,728 --> 01:23:54,695
They're not supermodels.
1827
01:23:54,695 --> 01:23:56,797
They're kind of people just like you.
1828
01:23:56,797 --> 01:23:58,265
They're doing something for us,
1829
01:23:58,265 --> 01:24:00,667
whether they're having a certain kind of drink
1830
01:24:00,667 --> 01:24:02,103
or they're using a certain laundry detergent,
1831
01:24:02,103 --> 01:24:03,771
whatever it may be.
1832
01:24:03,771 --> 01:24:07,542
They are the roach motel, if you will.
1833
01:24:07,542 --> 01:24:08,743
People are gonna come over to them
1834
01:24:08,743 --> 01:24:12,213
and they're gonna give them this little piece of brand bait.
1835
01:24:12,212 --> 01:24:14,815
Could be a soundbite of knowledge or a ritual.
1836
01:24:14,815 --> 01:24:16,650
Consumers will get that piece of roach bait
1837
01:24:16,650 --> 01:24:18,586
and then they'll take it, they go, "Oh, pretty cool,"
1838
01:24:18,586 --> 01:24:21,389
and then they go out and they spread it to their friends.
1839
01:24:21,389 --> 01:24:22,524
If you want to be critical,
1840
01:24:22,524 --> 01:24:23,892
if you want to go through your life like that,
1841
01:24:23,891 --> 01:24:25,659
sure, be critical of every single person
1842
01:24:25,659 --> 01:24:26,693
that walks up to you,
1843
01:24:27,761 --> 01:24:29,264
but if they're showing you something that fits
1844
01:24:29,264 --> 01:24:30,097
and something that works
1845
01:24:30,097 --> 01:24:32,533
and something that makes your life better in some way,
1846
01:24:32,533 --> 01:24:33,835
well then who cares?
1847
01:24:33,835 --> 01:24:35,804
Again, just say thanks.
1848
01:24:38,273 --> 01:24:41,676
(light orchestral music)
1849
01:24:42,777 --> 01:24:44,913
- [Narrator] Today the job of building this nation
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geographically is completed.
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There are no new frontiers within our borders.
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So to what new horizons can we look now?
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Where are tomorrow's opportunities?
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What's ahead for you, for your children?
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The frontiers of the future are not on any map.
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They are in the test tubes and laboratories
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of the great industries.
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- The Chakrabarty case was one of the great judicial moments
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in world history,
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and the public was totally unaware it was actually happening
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as the process was being engaged.
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General Electric and Professor Chakrabarty
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went to the Patent Office
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with a little microbe that eats up oil spills.
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They said they had modified this microbe in the laboratory,
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and therefore it was an invention.
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The Patent Office of the U.S. government
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took a look at this, quote, invention
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and they said, "No way.
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The patent statutes don't cover living things.
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This is not an invention."
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Turned down.
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Then General Electric and Dr. Chakrabarty
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appealed to the U.S. Customs Court of Appeal,
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and to everyone's surprise,
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by a three-to-two decision,
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they overrode the Patent Office.
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♪ GE we bring good things to life ♪
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- And they said, "This microbe looks more like a detergent
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or a reagent than a horse or a honeybee."
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I laughed because they didn't understand basic biology.
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It looked like a chemical to them.
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Had it had an antenna or eyes or wings or legs,
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it would never have crossed their table and been patented.
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Then the Patent Office appealed.
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And what the public should realize now
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is the Patent Office was very clear
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that you can't patent life.
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My organization provided the main amicus curiae brief.
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"If you allow the patent on this microbe," we argued,
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"It means that without any congressional guidance
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or public discussion,
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corporations will own the blueprints of life."
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When they made the decision,
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we lost by five to four,
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and Chief Justice Warren Burger said,
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"Sure, some of these are big issues,
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but we think this is a small decision."
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Seven years later the U.S. Patent Office
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issued a one-sentence decree,
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"You can patent anything in the world that's alive
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except a full-birth human being."
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(eerie music)
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- [Newscaster] The Supreme Court of the United States
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ruled today that living organisms produced in the laboratory
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may be patented.
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This decision to extend patenting-
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- [Man] The U.S. Supreme Court had to decide
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was whether one man or one company should be
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able to control new forms of life.
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- [Woman] If we allow any company or college
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to exclusively own a species,
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what does that say about our reverence for life?
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- [Newscaster] Researchers at Harvard
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manipulated the genes of mice,
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making their offspring more susceptible to cancer.
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They patented the Harvard Mouse
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in the U.S, Europe, and Japan.
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- [Man] The legal battle finally came to an end today.
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The Supreme Court of Canada
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ruled the genetically engineered mouse Canada patented.
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- [Woman] Canadians don't think that life forms
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are inventions of industry, like
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light bulbs and widgets.
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- [Woman] Bio-prospecting.
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- [Woman] Scientists and drug companies
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search the planet for genes.
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- [Woman] Companies scouring planet
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looking for valuable DNA,
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genes they can patent and sell.
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- [Man] Feels like the Wild West.
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We've got bandits going around the world,
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collecting wherever they can,
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sometimes under false pretenses.
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- [Woman] Because it's been so isolated,
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Newfoundland has a unique gene pool,
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and there's been so much interest
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for gene prospectors-
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- [Woman] My genetic imprint-
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- [Woman] That the government is funding a study.
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- [Woman] Really has been taken away from me.
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- [Man] Instead of being the impartial pursuit of the truth
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has become the pursuit of profit.
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- We've all been hearing about the announcement
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that we have mapped the human genome,
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but what the public doesn't know is
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now there's a great race by genomic companies
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and biotech companies and life science companies
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to find the treasure in the map.
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The treasure are the individual genes
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that make up the blueprint of the human race.
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Every time they capture a gene and isolate it,
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these biotech companies claim it as intellectual property.
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The breast cancer gene, the cystic fibrosis gene,
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it goes on and on and on.
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If this goes unchallenged in the world community,
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within less than 10 years,
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a handful of global companies will own
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directly or through license
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the actual genes that make up the evolution of our species.
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And they're now beginning to patent the genomes
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of every other creature on this planet.
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In the age of biology the politics is gonna sort out
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between those who believe life first has intrinsic value,
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and therefore we should choose technologies
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and commercial venues
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that honor the intrinsic value,
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and then we're gonna have people who believe,
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"Look, life is simply utility.
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It's commercial fare."
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And they will line up with the idea
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to let the marketplace be the ultimate arbiter
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of all of the age of biology.
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(calm acoustic music)
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- [Narrator] In a world economy
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where information is filtered by global media corporations
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keenly attuned to their powerful advertisers,
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who will defend the public's right to know?
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And what price must be paid
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to preserve our ability to make informed choices?
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(tense music)
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- What Fox Television told us was that
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we were just the people to be the investigators.
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- Do any stories you want,
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ask tough questions and get answers.
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So we thought, "This is great.
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This is a dream job.
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Fantastic."
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The very first thing they had us do
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was not to research stories
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but to shoot this promo
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which was The Investigators.
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(heavy electronic music)
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- [Man] Uncovering the truth, getting results,
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protecting you.
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- [Jane] And they had a film crew and a smoke machine
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and we were silhouetted.
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- One of the first stories that Jane came up with
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was the revelation that
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most of the milk in the state of Florida
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and throughout much of the country
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was adulterated with the effects of bovine growth hormone.
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(cow moos)
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- With Monsanto I didn't realize
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how effectively a corporation could work
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to get something on the marketplace,
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the levels of coordination they had to have.
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They had to get university professors into the fold.
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They had to get experts into the fold.
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They had to get reporters into the fold.
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They had to get the public into the fold.
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And of course the FDA, let's not leave them out.
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They had to get the federal regulators convinced
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that this was a fine and safe product,
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to get it onto the marketplace.
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And they did that.
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They did that very, very well
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- Posilac is the single most tested new product in history,
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and it's now available to you specifically,
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so you can increase your profit potential.
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- The federal government basically rubber-stamped it
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before they put it on the marketplace.
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The longest test they did for human toxicity
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was 90 days on 30 rats,
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and then either Monsanto misreported the results to the FDA
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or the FDA didn't bother to look in depth
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at Monsanto's own studies.
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- [Steve] The scientists within Health Canada
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looked very carefully at bovine growth hormone
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and came to very different conclusions
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than the Food and Drug Administration in the U.S. did.
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- Monsanto's engineered growth hormone
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did not comply with safety requirements.
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It could be absorbed by the body,
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and therefore did have implications for human health.
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Mysteriously, that conclusion was deleted
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from the final published version of their report
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- I personally was very concerned that
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there's a very serious problem of secrecy, conspiracy,
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and things of that nature.
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We have been pressured and coerced
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to pass drugs of questionable safety,
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including the rBST.
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- [Steve] We wrote the story.
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We had it ready a week beforehand.
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They'd bought ads.
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- [Announcer] Farmers in the milk industry say it's safe,
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but studies suggest a link to cancer.
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Don't miss this special report from the Investigators.
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- That Friday night
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before the Monday this series was to begin,
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the fax machine spit out a letter
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from this very high-priced lawyer in New York
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that Monsanto had hired.
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And it contained a lot of things
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that were just off-the-wall false,
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just demonstrably false.
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But if you didn't know the story
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and you didn't know how we had gone about producing it,
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it would've scared you,
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as a broadcaster, as a manager.
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- [Jane] And they decided that they would pull the story
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and they would just check it one more time.
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- But the bottom line was that
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there was no factual errors in that story.
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Both sides had been heard from.
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Both sides had had an opportunity to speak.
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- One week later, Monsanto sent the second letter,
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and this was even more strongly worded.
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And it said there will be, "Dire consequences for Fox News,"
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if the story airs in Florida.
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And this time they freaked.
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They were afraid of being sued,
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and they were also afraid of losing advertising dollars
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at all of the stations owned by Rupert Murdoch.
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And he owned more television stations
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than any other group in America.
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That's 22 television stations.
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That's a lot of advertising dollars,
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for Roundup, aspartame, NutraSweet, and other products.
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- So we got into a battle,
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and the first deal was the new general manager.
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- And his name's Dave.
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And Dave is a salesman,
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and he'd pump your hand, "How ya doing, how ya doing?"
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- Called us upstairs to his office
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and he said, "What would you say if I killed this piece?
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What if it never ran?"
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And we said, "Well, we wouldn't be very happy about that."
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And he said, "Well I could kill it, you know."
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And we said, "Yes, of course, you're the manager.
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You could kill it.
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It would never air."
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And he's hemming and he's hawing
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and he's back and he's forth.
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And we couldn't figure out what is this all about.
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And finally he blurted out, "Look, would you tell anybody?"
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I said, "I'm not gonna lie for you."
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About a week later he calls us back to the office and says,
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"Okay, we'd like you to make these changes.
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In fact, you will make these changes."
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We said, "Well look, let us show you
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the research that we have,
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that shows that this information
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you want us to broadcast isn't true,"
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to which he replies, "I don't care about that."
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I said, "Pardon me?"
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And he said, "That's what I have lawyers for.
2109
01:34:46,814 --> 01:34:49,583
Just write it the way the lawyers want it written."
2110
01:34:49,582 --> 01:34:51,251
I said, "You know, this is news.
2111
01:34:51,252 --> 01:34:52,186
This is important.
2112
01:34:52,185 --> 01:34:54,121
This is stuff people need to know."
2113
01:34:54,121 --> 01:34:57,391
And I'll never forget, he didn't pause a beat and he said,
2114
01:34:57,390 --> 01:35:02,162
"We just paid $3 billion for these television stations.
2115
01:35:02,162 --> 01:35:04,597
We'll tell you what the news is.
2116
01:35:04,597 --> 01:35:07,333
The news is what we say it is."
2117
01:35:07,333 --> 01:35:08,903
I said, "I'm not doing that."
2118
01:35:08,903 --> 01:35:10,137
And he said, "Well,"
2119
01:35:10,136 --> 01:35:12,206
he said, "If you refuse to present this story
2120
01:35:12,206 --> 01:35:14,275
the way we think it should be presented,
2121
01:35:14,274 --> 01:35:16,643
you'll be fired for insubordination."
2122
01:35:16,644 --> 01:35:19,180
I said, "I will go to the Federal Communications Commission
2123
01:35:19,180 --> 01:35:22,917
and I will report that I was fired from my job
2124
01:35:22,917 --> 01:35:25,953
by you, the licensee of these public airwaves,
2125
01:35:25,953 --> 01:35:28,489
because I refused to lie to people on the air."
2126
01:35:28,488 --> 01:35:30,523
And it's, "Thank you very much.
2127
01:35:30,524 --> 01:35:32,393
You'll hear from us right away."
2128
01:35:32,393 --> 01:35:35,496
Well, 24 hours came and went and we didn't hear a thing.
2129
01:35:35,496 --> 01:35:37,297
And about a week later he calls us back
2130
01:35:37,297 --> 01:35:39,632
and now we've changed strategies.
2131
01:35:39,632 --> 01:35:43,570
"How about if we pay you some money and you just go away?"
2132
01:35:45,872 --> 01:35:49,342
And I said, "How much money?"
2133
01:35:49,342 --> 01:35:51,377
because when somebody offers to bribe you like that
2134
01:35:51,377 --> 01:35:53,179
I always want to know if it might be worth it.
2135
01:35:53,180 --> 01:35:56,150
- He was gonna offer us the rest of our year's salary
2136
01:35:57,051 --> 01:36:02,056
if we agreed not to talk about what Monsanto had done,
2137
01:36:03,591 --> 01:36:07,194
to not talk about the Fox corporate response
2138
01:36:07,194 --> 01:36:08,896
in suppressing the story,
2139
01:36:08,895 --> 01:36:12,233
and to not talk about the story,
2140
01:36:12,233 --> 01:36:15,970
not talk about BGH again, anywhere,
2141
01:36:15,970 --> 01:36:18,905
not take this story to another news organization,
2142
01:36:18,905 --> 01:36:19,739
zip up.
2143
01:36:21,007 --> 01:36:21,975
- I said, "You mean if I want to go
2144
01:36:21,975 --> 01:36:23,376
to my daughter's PTA meetings
2145
01:36:23,377 --> 01:36:25,613
and explain what's in the school milk
2146
01:36:25,613 --> 01:36:27,414
at the school lunch program, I can't?"
2147
01:36:27,413 --> 01:36:28,248
"No.
2148
01:36:28,248 --> 01:36:30,216
You can never speak about this anywhere."
2149
01:36:30,216 --> 01:36:33,086
- And Steve says, "Okay, write it up."
2150
01:36:33,087 --> 01:36:36,991
And I'm like, "What are you talking about write it up?"
2151
01:36:36,990 --> 01:36:38,692
And I didn't say anything.
2152
01:36:38,692 --> 01:36:42,328
And Dave, he wrote it up
2153
01:36:42,328 --> 01:36:44,831
and he FedExed it to us a couple days later.
2154
01:36:45,932 --> 01:36:48,435
And he said, "Are you gonna sign?"
2155
01:36:48,435 --> 01:36:51,605
And we said, "Nah, Dave, we're not gonna sign that."
2156
01:36:51,604 --> 01:36:53,907
And he said, "Well send it back, okay?"
2157
01:36:53,908 --> 01:36:56,143
We said, "Nah, Dave, we're not gonna send that back."
2158
01:36:56,143 --> 01:36:59,712
- It was, "Okay, we can't buy you out,
2159
01:36:59,712 --> 01:37:01,081
we can't shut you up,
2160
01:37:01,081 --> 01:37:02,716
let's get the story on the air
2161
01:37:02,716 --> 01:37:05,286
in a way that we can all agree it will go on the air."
2162
01:37:05,286 --> 01:37:08,756
And we started rewriting and editing with their lawyers.
2163
01:37:08,756 --> 01:37:11,225
- Well during this eight month re-review process
2164
01:37:11,225 --> 01:37:12,793
I say jokingly,
2165
01:37:13,661 --> 01:37:14,895
they did things like
2166
01:37:14,895 --> 01:37:17,464
for example they wanted to take out the word cancer.
2167
01:37:17,463 --> 01:37:20,600
You don't have to identify what the potential problem is,
2168
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,336
but just say human health implications.
2169
01:37:24,204 --> 01:37:26,940
Any criticism of Monsanto or its product,
2170
01:37:26,940 --> 01:37:29,976
they either removed it or minimized it.
2171
01:37:29,976 --> 01:37:32,947
And it was very, very clear I would say
2172
01:37:32,947 --> 01:37:35,516
almost every edit they made to the piece,
2173
01:37:35,515 --> 01:37:36,649
that was the aim.
2174
01:37:36,649 --> 01:37:38,719
- And we'd change this and this and this,
2175
01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:39,953
and then that wasn't good enough.
2176
01:37:39,953 --> 01:37:42,188
"Okay, now change this and this and this.
2177
01:37:42,189 --> 01:37:44,124
Now change this and this."
2178
01:37:44,123 --> 01:37:47,293
Version after version after version.
2179
01:37:47,293 --> 01:37:49,697
83 times.
2180
01:37:49,697 --> 01:37:51,699
- 83 times is unheard of.
2181
01:37:51,698 --> 01:37:52,799
It doesn't happen.
2182
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,969
You shouldn't have to rewrite something 83 times.
2183
01:37:54,969 --> 01:37:57,238
Obviously they didn't want to put the thing on the air
2184
01:37:57,238 --> 01:37:58,873
and they were trying to drive us crazy
2185
01:37:58,872 --> 01:37:59,906
and get us to quit
2186
01:37:59,907 --> 01:38:02,509
or wait until the first window in our contract
2187
01:38:02,509 --> 01:38:03,911
so that they could fire us.
2188
01:38:03,911 --> 01:38:07,014
- They in effect announced that they were going to fire us
2189
01:38:07,014 --> 01:38:07,981
for no cause.
2190
01:38:09,182 --> 01:38:10,684
Well this was a little much.
2191
01:38:10,684 --> 01:38:13,621
- And Steve wrote a letter to the lawyer in Atlanta,
2192
01:38:13,621 --> 01:38:15,288
whose name is Carolyn Forrest,
2193
01:38:15,288 --> 01:38:16,890
the Fox corporate lawyer.
2194
01:38:16,890 --> 01:38:19,025
- And I said, "You know, this isn't about
2195
01:38:19,025 --> 01:38:21,394
being fired for no cause.
2196
01:38:21,395 --> 01:38:25,566
You're firing us because we refused to put on the air
2197
01:38:25,565 --> 01:38:27,434
something that we knew and demonstrated
2198
01:38:27,434 --> 01:38:28,836
to be false and misleading.
2199
01:38:28,836 --> 01:38:30,271
That's what this is about,
2200
01:38:30,270 --> 01:38:31,771
and because we put up a fight,
2201
01:38:31,771 --> 01:38:33,707
because we stood up to this big corporation
2202
01:38:33,707 --> 01:38:34,807
and we stood up to your editors
2203
01:38:34,807 --> 01:38:35,975
and we stood up to your lawyers,
2204
01:38:35,975 --> 01:38:37,010
and we said to you,
2205
01:38:37,011 --> 01:38:38,212
look there ought to be a principle
2206
01:38:38,212 --> 01:38:40,314
higher than just making money."
2207
01:38:40,314 --> 01:38:41,615
- And she wrote a letter back and said,
2208
01:38:41,614 --> 01:38:42,448
"You are right.
2209
01:38:42,448 --> 01:38:43,683
That's exactly what it was.
2210
01:38:43,684 --> 01:38:45,686
You stood up to us on this story,
2211
01:38:45,685 --> 01:38:48,188
and that's why we're letting you go."
2212
01:38:48,188 --> 01:38:49,657
Big mistake.
2213
01:38:49,657 --> 01:38:50,591
Big mistake.
2214
01:38:50,591 --> 01:38:53,127
That says retaliation.
2215
01:38:53,127 --> 01:38:55,796
You can't retaliate against employees
2216
01:38:55,796 --> 01:38:57,698
if they're standing up for something
2217
01:38:57,698 --> 01:38:59,533
that they believe is illegal,
2218
01:38:59,533 --> 01:39:01,635
that they don't want to participate in.
2219
01:39:01,635 --> 01:39:04,471
So that gave us the whistleblower status
2220
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:06,572
that we needed in the state of Florida
2221
01:39:06,573 --> 01:39:09,410
to file a whistleblower claim against our employer.
2222
01:39:10,377 --> 01:39:12,880
- Two or three years later we got to trial.
2223
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,284
Five weeks of testimony led to a jury verdict of $425,000,
2224
01:39:18,484 --> 01:39:20,386
in which the jury determined that
2225
01:39:20,386 --> 01:39:22,188
the story they pressured us to broadcast,
2226
01:39:22,189 --> 01:39:24,057
the story we resisted telling,
2227
01:39:24,057 --> 01:39:26,793
was in fact false, distorted, or slanted.
2228
01:39:26,793 --> 01:39:30,096
(light electronic music)
2229
01:39:30,096 --> 01:39:31,998
- [Narrator] Fox News appealed the verdict.
2230
01:39:32,966 --> 01:39:34,902
Five major news media corporations
2231
01:39:34,902 --> 01:39:36,203
filed briefs with the court
2232
01:39:36,203 --> 01:39:38,105
in support of Fox's appeal.
2233
01:39:43,176 --> 01:39:45,679
- You may recall that Jane Akre, a former reporter here,
2234
01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:48,349
sued Fox 13 in a whistleblower lawsuit,
2235
01:39:48,349 --> 01:39:52,152
claiming she was fired for refusing to distort her report.
2236
01:39:52,152 --> 01:39:54,188
The appeals court today threw that case out,
2237
01:39:54,188 --> 01:39:56,457
saying Miss Akre had no whistleblower claim
2238
01:39:56,457 --> 01:39:59,560
against the station based on news distortion.
2239
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,429
Fox 13 Vice President and General Manager Bob Linger
2240
01:40:02,429 --> 01:40:05,399
says the station has been completely vindicated by the rule.
2241
01:40:06,399 --> 01:40:09,502
- [Narrator] What Fox neglected to report is this.
2242
01:40:09,502 --> 01:40:12,639
Jane sued Fox under Florida's whistleblower statute,
2243
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:15,109
which protects those who try to prevent others
2244
01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:16,210
from breaking the law,
2245
01:40:17,711 --> 01:40:20,847
but her appeal court judges found that falsifying news
2246
01:40:20,847 --> 01:40:22,649
isn't actually against the law,
2247
01:40:23,684 --> 01:40:26,552
so they denied Jane her whistleblower status,
2248
01:40:26,552 --> 01:40:28,221
overturned the case,
2249
01:40:28,221 --> 01:40:31,257
and withdrew her $425,000 award.
2250
01:40:32,826 --> 01:40:36,396
Canada and Europe have upheld the ban on rBGH,
2251
01:40:37,631 --> 01:40:38,699
yet it remains hidden
2252
01:40:38,698 --> 01:40:41,167
in much of the milk supply of the United States.
2253
01:40:47,541 --> 01:40:50,010
The prospect that two thirds of the world's population
2254
01:40:50,010 --> 01:40:53,646
will have no access to fresh drinking water by 2025
2255
01:40:53,646 --> 01:40:55,548
has provoked the initial confrontations
2256
01:40:55,548 --> 01:40:57,350
in a worldwide battle for control
2257
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:59,519
over the planet's most basic resource.
2258
01:41:01,854 --> 01:41:04,690
When Bolivia sought to refinance the public water service
2259
01:41:04,690 --> 01:41:06,527
of its third-largest city,
2260
01:41:06,527 --> 01:41:09,163
the World Bank required that it be privatized,
2261
01:41:11,064 --> 01:41:14,000
which is how the Bechtel corporation of San Francisco
2262
01:41:14,001 --> 01:41:16,470
gained control over all of Cochabamba's water,
2263
01:41:17,404 --> 01:41:19,940
even that which fell from the sky.
2264
01:41:19,939 --> 01:41:23,609
(speaking foreign language)
2265
01:41:41,028 --> 01:41:44,431
(light orchestral music)
2266
01:42:05,786 --> 01:42:08,622
(people shouting)
2267
01:42:23,737 --> 01:42:25,239
(chanting in a foreign language)
2268
01:42:25,238 --> 01:42:27,173
- [Narrator] The price his beleaguered country paid
2269
01:42:27,173 --> 01:42:28,609
for World Bank loans
2270
01:42:28,609 --> 01:42:31,445
was the privatization of the state oil industry
2271
01:42:31,444 --> 01:42:35,381
and its airline, railroad, electric, and phone companies.
2272
01:42:37,684 --> 01:42:39,619
But the government failed to convince Bolivians
2273
01:42:39,619 --> 01:42:42,756
that water is a commodity like any other.
2274
01:42:42,756 --> 01:42:47,226
(speaking foreign language)
2275
01:42:47,226 --> 01:42:50,898
(speaking foreign language)
2276
01:43:05,412 --> 01:43:08,749
(explosion booming)
2277
01:43:08,748 --> 01:43:12,418
(speaking foreign language)
2278
01:43:18,492 --> 01:43:19,326
- [Narrator] Bolivia was determined
2279
01:43:19,326 --> 01:43:20,993
to defend the corporation's right
2280
01:43:20,993 --> 01:43:23,630
to charge families living on $2 a day
2281
01:43:23,630 --> 01:43:26,099
as much as one quarter of their income for water.
2282
01:43:28,268 --> 01:43:29,770
The greater the popular resistance
2283
01:43:29,770 --> 01:43:31,972
to the water privatization scheme,
2284
01:43:31,971 --> 01:43:34,240
the more violent became the standoff.
2285
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,711
(people shouting)
2286
01:43:37,711 --> 01:43:41,381
(speaking foreign language)
2287
01:44:01,868 --> 01:44:04,638
(gunshot firing)
2288
01:44:20,621 --> 01:44:22,655
- [Narrator] Transnational corporations have a long
2289
01:44:22,655 --> 01:44:25,559
and dark history of condoning tyrannical governments.
2290
01:44:27,127 --> 01:44:30,197
Is it narcissism that compels them to seek their reflection
2291
01:44:30,197 --> 01:44:33,166
in the regimented structures of fascist regimes?
2292
01:44:50,716 --> 01:44:51,684
- There was an interesting connection
2293
01:44:51,685 --> 01:44:55,589
between the rise of fascism in Europe
2294
01:44:55,588 --> 01:45:00,594
and the consciousness of politically radical people
2295
01:45:00,993 --> 01:45:02,595
about corporate power,
2296
01:45:03,630 --> 01:45:08,601
because there was a recognition that fascism arose in Europe
2297
01:45:08,635 --> 01:45:12,105
with the help of enormous corporations.
2298
01:45:12,104 --> 01:45:15,708
- Mussolini was greatly admired all across the spectrum.
2299
01:45:15,708 --> 01:45:17,010
Business loved him.
2300
01:45:17,010 --> 01:45:18,478
Investments shot up.
2301
01:45:18,478 --> 01:45:20,247
Incidentally, when Hitler came in in Germany
2302
01:45:20,247 --> 01:45:21,815
the same thing happened there.
2303
01:45:21,814 --> 01:45:23,884
The investments shot up in Germany.
2304
01:45:23,884 --> 01:45:26,286
He had the workforce under control.
2305
01:45:26,286 --> 01:45:29,422
He was getting rid of dangerous left-wing elements.
2306
01:45:29,422 --> 01:45:31,490
Investment opportunities were improving.
2307
01:45:31,490 --> 01:45:32,525
There was no problems.
2308
01:45:32,525 --> 01:45:34,027
These are wonderful countries.
2309
01:45:35,127 --> 01:45:37,163
- I think one of the greatest untold stories
2310
01:45:37,163 --> 01:45:38,731
of the 20th century
2311
01:45:38,731 --> 01:45:42,202
is the collusion between corporations,
2312
01:45:42,202 --> 01:45:44,271
especially in America
2313
01:45:44,270 --> 01:45:46,238
and Nazi Germany,
2314
01:45:46,238 --> 01:45:49,408
first in terms of how the corporations from America
2315
01:45:49,408 --> 01:45:51,610
helped to essentially rebuild Germany
2316
01:45:51,610 --> 01:45:54,847
and support the early Nazi regime,
2317
01:45:54,847 --> 01:45:57,583
and then when the war broke out,
2318
01:45:57,583 --> 01:46:00,487
figured out a way to keep everything going.
2319
01:46:00,487 --> 01:46:03,590
So General Motors was able to keep Opel going.
2320
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:06,760
Ford was able to keep their thing going.
2321
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,762
And companies like Coca-Cola,
2322
01:46:08,761 --> 01:46:10,630
because they couldn't keep the Coca-Cola going,
2323
01:46:10,630 --> 01:46:13,533
so what they did was they invented Fanta orange
2324
01:46:13,533 --> 01:46:15,135
for the Germans.
2325
01:46:15,135 --> 01:46:18,872
And that's how Coke was able to keep their profits
2326
01:46:18,872 --> 01:46:21,141
coming in to Coca-Cola.
2327
01:46:21,140 --> 01:46:23,042
So when you drink Fanta orange,
2328
01:46:23,042 --> 01:46:24,777
that's the Nazi drink
2329
01:46:24,778 --> 01:46:28,715
that was created so that Coke could continue making money
2330
01:46:28,715 --> 01:46:30,217
while millions of people died.
2331
01:46:31,251 --> 01:46:34,154
- When Hitler came to power in 1933,
2332
01:46:34,154 --> 01:46:37,557
his goal was to dismantle and destroy the Jewish community.
2333
01:46:37,556 --> 01:46:40,059
This was an enterprise so fast
2334
01:46:40,060 --> 01:46:42,696
that it required the resources of a computer.
2335
01:46:42,695 --> 01:46:45,364
But in 1933 there was no computer.
2336
01:46:45,364 --> 01:46:49,101
What there was was the IBM punch card system,
2337
01:46:49,101 --> 01:46:52,538
which controlled and stored information
2338
01:46:52,538 --> 01:46:54,440
based upon the holes that were punched
2339
01:46:54,440 --> 01:46:57,610
in various rows and columns.
2340
01:46:57,610 --> 01:46:59,880
Naturally there was no off-the-shelf software
2341
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:01,280
as there is today.
2342
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,750
Each application was custom-designed,
2343
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:06,586
and the engineer had to personally configure it.
2344
01:47:07,921 --> 01:47:10,289
Millions of people,
2345
01:47:10,289 --> 01:47:14,027
of all religions and nationalities and characteristics,
2346
01:47:14,027 --> 01:47:17,329
went through the concentration camp system.
2347
01:47:17,329 --> 01:47:20,399
That's an extraordinary traffic management program
2348
01:47:20,399 --> 01:47:25,371
that required an IBM system in every railroad direction
2349
01:47:25,604 --> 01:47:29,942
and an IBM system in every concentration camp.
2350
01:47:29,943 --> 01:47:32,712
(dramatic music)
2351
01:47:36,283 --> 01:47:39,419
- Now this is a typical prisoner card.
2352
01:47:39,418 --> 01:47:40,386
There are little boxes
2353
01:47:40,386 --> 01:47:42,456
where all the information is to be punched in.
2354
01:47:42,456 --> 01:47:43,856
We compare this information
2355
01:47:43,856 --> 01:47:46,091
to the code sheet for concentration camps,
2356
01:47:46,091 --> 01:47:47,726
and here you see Auschwitz is one,
2357
01:47:47,726 --> 01:47:50,729
Buchenwald two, Dachau is three.
2358
01:47:50,729 --> 01:47:53,032
Now what kinds of prisoners were they?
2359
01:47:53,033 --> 01:47:55,469
They could be a Jehovah's Witness for two,
2360
01:47:55,469 --> 01:47:57,270
a homosexual for three,
2361
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:58,939
communists for six,
2362
01:47:58,939 --> 01:48:01,106
or a Jew would be eight.
2363
01:48:01,106 --> 01:48:02,708
Now what was their status.
2364
01:48:02,708 --> 01:48:04,810
One was released.
2365
01:48:04,810 --> 01:48:06,545
Two was transferred.
2366
01:48:06,546 --> 01:48:08,280
Four was executed.
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Five was suicide.
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And six, code six, Sonderbehandlung,
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01:48:14,688 --> 01:48:16,288
special treatment,
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meant the gas chamber or sometimes a bullet.
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They would punch that number in.
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The material was tabulated.
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01:48:23,262 --> 01:48:25,097
The machines were set.
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01:48:25,097 --> 01:48:29,101
And of course the punch cards by the millions
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01:48:29,101 --> 01:48:30,302
had to be printed
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01:48:30,302 --> 01:48:33,273
and they were printed exclusively by IBM
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01:48:33,273 --> 01:48:36,710
and the profits were recovered just after the war.
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01:48:37,743 --> 01:48:40,713
- I really do believe that that particular accusation
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01:48:40,713 --> 01:48:45,385
has been fairly discredited as a serious accusation.
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01:48:45,385 --> 01:48:48,954
That is, the fact that they have used equipment,
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01:48:50,189 --> 01:48:52,057
that is a fact,
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01:48:52,057 --> 01:48:53,193
but how they got it,
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01:48:53,193 --> 01:48:55,195
how much cooperation they got,
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01:48:55,194 --> 01:48:56,929
and any kind of collusion
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01:48:56,930 --> 01:48:59,533
trying to connect dots that are not connected,
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01:48:59,533 --> 01:49:02,335
I think that's the part that is discredited.
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01:49:03,904 --> 01:49:07,774
Generally you sell computers
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01:49:07,774 --> 01:49:09,876
and they're used in a variety of ways,
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01:49:09,876 --> 01:49:11,845
and you always hope they're used
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01:49:11,845 --> 01:49:14,648
in the more positive ways possible.
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01:49:14,648 --> 01:49:16,516
If you ever found out they're used
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01:49:16,515 --> 01:49:18,851
in ways that are not positive,
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01:49:18,851 --> 01:49:22,988
then you would hope that you stop supporting that,
2394
01:49:22,988 --> 01:49:25,057
but do you always know,
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01:49:25,057 --> 01:49:26,259
can you always tell,
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01:49:26,259 --> 01:49:27,661
can you always find out?
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01:49:31,831 --> 01:49:33,934
IBM would of course say that it had no control
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01:49:33,934 --> 01:49:35,502
over its German subsidiary,
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01:49:35,502 --> 01:49:38,438
but here in October 9th of 1941
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01:49:38,438 --> 01:49:41,574
a letter is being written directly to Thomas J. Watson
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01:49:41,574 --> 01:49:44,476
with all sorts of detail about the activities
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01:49:44,476 --> 01:49:46,479
of the German subsidiary.
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01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:48,847
None of these machines were sold.
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01:49:48,847 --> 01:49:50,449
They were all leased by IBM.
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01:49:50,449 --> 01:49:52,786
And they had to be serviced on site once a month,
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01:49:52,786 --> 01:49:54,854
even if that was at a concentration camp,
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01:49:54,854 --> 01:49:57,023
such as Dachau, Buchenwald.
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01:49:57,023 --> 01:50:01,328
This is a typical contract with IBM and the Third Reich,
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01:50:01,328 --> 01:50:02,929
which was instituted in 1942.
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01:50:04,296 --> 01:50:06,231
It's not with the Dutch subsidiary.
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01:50:06,231 --> 01:50:08,301
It's not with the German subsidiary.
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01:50:08,301 --> 01:50:12,606
It is with the IBM corporation in New York.
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01:50:12,605 --> 01:50:13,974
- You know, as it happens,
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01:50:15,274 --> 01:50:16,710
I know that story.
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01:50:17,944 --> 01:50:21,948
I discussed it more than once with old Mr. Watson.
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01:50:21,948 --> 01:50:23,583
And I was around at the time.
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01:50:24,516 --> 01:50:26,051
I'm not saying that Watson didn't know
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01:50:26,051 --> 01:50:29,688
that the German government used punch cards.
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01:50:29,689 --> 01:50:31,057
He probably did know.
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01:50:31,992 --> 01:50:34,527
After we had very few customers.
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01:50:34,527 --> 01:50:36,128
Watson didn't want to do it,
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01:50:36,128 --> 01:50:38,731
was not because he thought it was immoral or not,
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01:50:39,632 --> 01:50:40,666
but because Watson,
2424
01:50:40,667 --> 01:50:43,536
with a very keen sense of public relations,
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01:50:43,536 --> 01:50:44,938
thought it was risky.
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01:50:45,872 --> 01:50:46,706
- [Narrator] It should not surprise us
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01:50:46,706 --> 01:50:48,608
that corporate allegiance to profits
2428
01:50:48,608 --> 01:50:50,810
will trump their allegiance to any flag.
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01:50:51,711 --> 01:50:54,247
A recent U.S. Treasury Department report
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01:50:54,247 --> 01:50:56,249
revealed that in one week alone,
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01:50:56,248 --> 01:50:58,585
57 U.S. corporations were fined
2432
01:50:58,585 --> 01:51:02,055
for trading with official enemies of the United States,
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01:51:02,055 --> 01:51:06,059
including terrorists, tyrants, and despotic regimes.
2434
01:51:09,095 --> 01:51:13,266
(dramatic orchestral music) (clock ticking)
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01:51:13,265 --> 01:51:15,367
- [Man] You can roughly locate any community
2436
01:51:15,368 --> 01:51:16,903
somewhere along a scale
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01:51:16,903 --> 01:51:20,472
running all the way from democracy to despotism.
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01:51:24,344 --> 01:51:27,380
This man makes it his job to study these things.
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01:51:27,380 --> 01:51:29,615
- Well for one thing,
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01:51:29,615 --> 01:51:33,520
avoid the comfortable idea that the mere form of government
2441
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:37,891
can of itself safeguard a nation against despotism.
2442
01:51:37,890 --> 01:51:40,192
(march-like music)
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01:51:40,193 --> 01:51:41,360
- [Narrator] For big business,
2444
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,328
despotism was often a useful tool
2445
01:51:43,328 --> 01:51:46,398
for securing foreign markets and pursuing profits.
2446
01:51:47,466 --> 01:51:48,667
One of the U.S. Marine Corp's
2447
01:51:48,667 --> 01:51:50,569
most highly decorated generals,
2448
01:51:50,569 --> 01:51:52,505
Smedley Darlington Butler,
2449
01:51:52,505 --> 01:51:53,739
by his own account
2450
01:51:53,739 --> 01:51:57,109
helped pacify Mexico for American oil companies,
2451
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:59,945
Haiti and Cuba for National City Bank,
2452
01:51:59,945 --> 01:52:02,548
Nicaragua for the Brown Brothers brokerage,
2453
01:52:02,548 --> 01:52:05,652
the Dominican Republic for sugar interests,
2454
01:52:05,652 --> 01:52:08,421
Honduras for U.S. fruit companies,
2455
01:52:08,421 --> 01:52:10,457
and China for Standard Oil.
2456
01:52:12,759 --> 01:52:15,028
General Butler's services were also in demand
2457
01:52:15,028 --> 01:52:17,997
in the United States itself in the 1930s.
2458
01:52:17,997 --> 01:52:20,300
As President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2459
01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:22,869
sought to relieve the misery of the Depression
2460
01:52:22,868 --> 01:52:24,503
through public enterprise
2461
01:52:24,503 --> 01:52:25,572
and tougher regulations
2462
01:52:25,572 --> 01:52:28,541
on corporate exploitation and misdeeds.
2463
01:52:28,541 --> 01:52:31,411
- [Narrator] More power to you, President Roosevelt.
2464
01:52:31,411 --> 01:52:33,680
The entire country's behind you,
2465
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,282
thrilled with hope and patriotism.
2466
01:52:36,282 --> 01:52:37,217
- [Narrator] But the country was not
2467
01:52:37,216 --> 01:52:39,885
entirely behind the populist president.
2468
01:52:39,886 --> 01:52:41,588
Large parts of the corporate elite
2469
01:52:41,587 --> 01:52:43,989
despised what Roosevelt's New Deal stood for.
2470
01:52:45,091 --> 01:52:47,627
And so in 1934
2471
01:52:47,627 --> 01:52:50,497
a group of conspirators sought to involve General Butler
2472
01:52:50,497 --> 01:52:52,499
in a treasonous plan.
2473
01:52:52,498 --> 01:52:53,599
- [Man] The plan as outlined to me
2474
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,136
was to form an organization of veterans,
2475
01:52:56,136 --> 01:52:58,905
to use as bluff, or as a club at least,
2476
01:52:58,904 --> 01:53:01,140
to intimidate the government.
2477
01:53:01,140 --> 01:53:02,007
- [Narrator] But the corporate cabal
2478
01:53:02,007 --> 01:53:03,609
had picked the wrong man.
2479
01:53:03,609 --> 01:53:05,911
Butler was fed up with being what he called
2480
01:53:05,912 --> 01:53:07,280
a gangster for capitalism.
2481
01:53:08,314 --> 01:53:11,484
(excited brass music)
2482
01:53:13,051 --> 01:53:15,755
- I appear before the congressional committee
2483
01:53:15,755 --> 01:53:18,423
the highest representation of the American people
2484
01:53:18,423 --> 01:53:21,694
under subpoena, to tell what I knew of activities,
2485
01:53:21,694 --> 01:53:23,463
which I believed might lead
2486
01:53:23,462 --> 01:53:25,898
to an attempt to set up a fascist dictatorship.
2487
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:28,600
The upshot of the whole thing was that
2488
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:32,704
I was supposed to lead an organization of 500,000 men
2489
01:53:32,704 --> 01:53:34,106
which would be able to take over
2490
01:53:34,106 --> 01:53:35,507
the functions of government.
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01:53:36,975 --> 01:53:39,011
- [Narrator] A congressional committee ultimately found
2492
01:53:39,011 --> 01:53:42,314
evidence of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt.
2493
01:53:42,314 --> 01:53:43,715
According to Butler
2494
01:53:43,716 --> 01:53:45,718
the conspiracy included representatives
2495
01:53:45,717 --> 01:53:48,320
of some of America's top corporations,
2496
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:52,024
including JP Morgan, DuPont, and Goodyear Tire.
2497
01:53:55,461 --> 01:53:56,762
(mysterious electronic music)
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01:53:56,762 --> 01:53:59,599
As today's chairman of Goodyear Tire knows,
2499
01:53:59,599 --> 01:54:01,266
for corporations to dominate government,
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01:54:01,266 --> 01:54:03,903
a coup is no longer necessary.
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01:54:04,804 --> 01:54:06,405
- Corporations have gone global,
2502
01:54:07,273 --> 01:54:08,807
and by going global,
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01:54:08,807 --> 01:54:13,813
the governments have lost some control over corporations.
2504
01:54:13,846 --> 01:54:16,315
Regardless of whether the corporation can be trusted
2505
01:54:16,315 --> 01:54:17,951
or cannot be trusted,
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01:54:17,951 --> 01:54:21,988
governments today do not have over the corporations
2507
01:54:21,988 --> 01:54:23,923
the power that they had,
2508
01:54:23,922 --> 01:54:27,893
and the leverage that they had 50 or 60 years ago.
2509
01:54:27,894 --> 01:54:29,095
And that's a major change.
2510
01:54:29,095 --> 01:54:32,131
So governments have become powerless
2511
01:54:32,131 --> 01:54:35,001
compared to what they were before.
2512
01:54:35,001 --> 01:54:38,805
- Capitalism today commands the towering heights,
2513
01:54:38,805 --> 01:54:41,774
and has displaced politics and politicians
2514
01:54:41,774 --> 01:54:43,309
as the new high priests,
2515
01:54:43,309 --> 01:54:45,612
and reigning oligarchs of our system.
2516
01:54:45,612 --> 01:54:50,449
So capitalism and its principle protagonists and players,
2517
01:54:50,449 --> 01:54:52,085
corporate CEOs,
2518
01:54:52,085 --> 01:54:56,055
have been accorded unusual power and access.
2519
01:54:56,055 --> 01:54:57,923
This is not to deny the significance
2520
01:54:57,923 --> 01:54:59,324
of government and politicians,
2521
01:54:59,324 --> 01:55:01,226
but these are the new high priests.
2522
01:55:04,930 --> 01:55:07,432
- I was invited to Washington, D.C
2523
01:55:07,432 --> 01:55:09,002
to attend this meeting
2524
01:55:09,002 --> 01:55:11,871
that was being put together by the National Security Agency
2525
01:55:11,871 --> 01:55:13,972
called the Critical Thinking Consortium.
2526
01:55:14,806 --> 01:55:16,809
I remember standing there in this room
2527
01:55:16,809 --> 01:55:19,945
and looking over on one side of the room,
2528
01:55:19,945 --> 01:55:24,951
and we had CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI, Customs, Secret Service,
2529
01:55:28,220 --> 01:55:30,489
and then on the other side of the room we had
2530
01:55:31,356 --> 01:55:35,127
Coca Cola, Mobile Oil, GTE and Kodak.
2531
01:55:36,061 --> 01:55:38,064
And I remember thinking, "I am in the epicenter
2532
01:55:38,064 --> 01:55:41,401
of the intelligence industry right now."
2533
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,936
I mean, the line is not just blurring.
2534
01:55:43,936 --> 01:55:45,637
It's just not there anymore.
2535
01:55:47,206 --> 01:55:49,242
And to me it spoke volumes
2536
01:55:49,242 --> 01:55:53,646
as to how industry and government
2537
01:55:53,645 --> 01:55:56,815
were consulting with each other and working with each other.
2538
01:55:56,815 --> 01:56:00,219
(light electronic music)
2539
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:09,628
(helicopter whirring)
2540
01:56:09,628 --> 01:56:11,764
- [Narrator] As 34 nations of the Western Hemisphere
2541
01:56:11,764 --> 01:56:14,434
gathered to draft a far-reaching trade agreement,
2542
01:56:14,434 --> 01:56:15,802
one that would lay the groundwork
2543
01:56:15,801 --> 01:56:19,072
to privatize every resource and service imaginable,
2544
01:56:19,072 --> 01:56:19,905
thousands of people
2545
01:56:19,905 --> 01:56:22,341
from hundreds of grassroots organizations
2546
01:56:22,341 --> 01:56:23,542
joined to oppose it.
2547
01:56:25,478 --> 01:56:27,313
Canada's top business lobbyists
2548
01:56:27,313 --> 01:56:29,248
and its chief trade representative
2549
01:56:29,247 --> 01:56:31,783
discount the dissent in the streets.
2550
01:56:31,783 --> 01:56:35,020
For them, the Americas' 800 million citizens
2551
01:56:35,020 --> 01:56:36,722
speak with one voice.
2552
01:56:36,722 --> 01:56:38,157
- Nice to see you.
2553
01:56:38,157 --> 01:56:43,162
Well done on your strong advocacy of truth, justice, wisdom,
2554
01:56:44,096 --> 01:56:45,398
and all those things, eh?
2555
01:56:48,467 --> 01:56:50,002
- I was looking yesterday at the
2556
01:56:50,002 --> 01:56:51,737
statements at the inauguration,
2557
01:56:51,738 --> 01:56:52,805
and opening ceremony.
2558
01:56:54,207 --> 01:56:57,777
What an extraordinary progress
2559
01:56:57,777 --> 01:56:59,779
over the last 15 years.
2560
01:56:59,779 --> 01:57:02,415
When you heard such open-
2561
01:57:02,414 --> 01:57:03,248
- [Thomas] A common language.
2562
01:57:03,248 --> 01:57:04,449
- A common language.
2563
01:57:08,688 --> 01:57:11,858
Yes, and from the most developed to the least,
2564
01:57:11,858 --> 01:57:15,161
it was extraordinary that now
2565
01:57:15,161 --> 01:57:18,331
that we see the benefits of trade,
2566
01:57:18,331 --> 01:57:20,333
more and more people want to buy in.
2567
01:57:20,332 --> 01:57:22,567
Because we do realize that it helps everyone.
2568
01:57:22,568 --> 01:57:25,538
From the poorer to the better off, so-
2569
01:57:25,537 --> 01:57:26,471
- A lot of these countries
2570
01:57:26,471 --> 01:57:28,340
are not saying they want to get off,
2571
01:57:28,341 --> 01:57:30,009
they want to get on.
2572
01:57:32,011 --> 01:57:33,980
- [Pierre] Exactly no one wants out.
2573
01:57:33,979 --> 01:57:35,881
Everyone wants in.
2574
01:57:35,881 --> 01:57:36,882
- Anyway, well done.
2575
01:57:36,882 --> 01:57:37,716
- Thank you.
2576
01:57:38,717 --> 01:57:39,918
So far so good.
2577
01:57:41,453 --> 01:57:44,623
(eerie ambient music)
2578
01:58:01,340 --> 01:58:03,042
- I'm inside, and this is all outside,
2579
01:58:03,042 --> 01:58:06,345
so that's, uh, that's the way it is.
2580
01:58:11,984 --> 01:58:14,787
- [Mark] So what do you think when you look at all this?
2581
01:58:14,787 --> 01:58:16,088
- Well, it's uh, I mean,
2582
01:58:16,088 --> 01:58:19,792
I think that it's too bad that this has, uh,
2583
01:58:19,792 --> 01:58:21,427
that this has erupted.
2584
01:58:21,426 --> 01:58:24,362
(aggressive music)
2585
01:58:27,733 --> 01:58:28,801
Merci.
2586
01:58:28,801 --> 01:58:31,471
(gunshot fires)
2587
01:58:40,746 --> 01:58:43,416
(gunshot fires)
2588
01:58:47,587 --> 01:58:48,588
(glass shattering)
2589
01:58:48,587 --> 01:58:51,423
(people laughing)
2590
01:58:58,131 --> 01:59:00,700
Does there need to be some measure of accountability?
2591
01:59:00,699 --> 01:59:02,300
Yes.
2592
01:59:02,301 --> 01:59:05,004
And I think the business community recognizes that.
2593
01:59:05,003 --> 01:59:07,539
But that accountability is in the marketplace.
2594
01:59:07,539 --> 01:59:09,307
It's with their shareholders.
2595
01:59:09,307 --> 01:59:11,711
It's with the public perception and the public image
2596
01:59:11,711 --> 01:59:13,179
that they are projecting.
2597
01:59:13,179 --> 01:59:18,150
If companies don't do what they should be doing,
2598
01:59:18,583 --> 01:59:20,219
they're going to be punished in the marketplace,
2599
01:59:20,219 --> 01:59:22,121
and that's not what any company wants.
2600
01:59:24,689 --> 01:59:25,924
- There's a new market.
2601
01:59:25,925 --> 01:59:28,261
These guys and gals aren't out there
2602
01:59:28,261 --> 01:59:31,097
because government's putting a gun to their head.
2603
01:59:31,096 --> 01:59:33,965
Or because they've suddenly read a book
2604
01:59:33,966 --> 01:59:38,971
about transcendental meditation and global morality.
2605
01:59:39,070 --> 01:59:41,306
- My inner voice says honor my inner child.
2606
01:59:41,306 --> 01:59:43,675
- Mine says love everyone.
2607
01:59:43,676 --> 01:59:44,777
- My inner voice says
2608
01:59:44,777 --> 01:59:46,979
I'd like a Wendy's bacon mushroom melt.
2609
01:59:46,979 --> 01:59:49,448
- They're there because they understand
2610
01:59:49,448 --> 01:59:51,951
the market requires them to be there,
2611
01:59:51,951 --> 01:59:54,453
that there's competitive advantage to be there.
2612
01:59:54,453 --> 01:59:56,322
- I'm listening to your concerns.
2613
01:59:56,322 --> 01:59:57,757
I worry about climate.
2614
01:59:57,756 --> 01:59:59,257
I worry about pollution.
2615
01:59:59,257 --> 02:00:01,527
I do not have all the answers to this,
2616
02:00:01,527 --> 02:00:05,364
but we are prepared to work with you, with society,
2617
02:00:05,363 --> 02:00:08,000
with NGOs, with governments to address it.
2618
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,302
So you rebuild the trust,
2619
02:00:10,302 --> 02:00:14,006
so that you come back to a new kind of trust,
2620
02:00:14,006 --> 02:00:16,642
and then the ultimate goal
2621
02:00:16,641 --> 02:00:19,744
is then to become the corporation of choice.
2622
02:00:19,744 --> 02:00:21,646
- [Narrator] He believes that almost half our energy
2623
02:00:21,646 --> 02:00:23,815
can one day come from renewable sources.
2624
02:00:24,649 --> 02:00:27,118
He's been called a dreamer and a crank.
2625
02:00:28,453 --> 02:00:29,889
- And I've been called a hippie.
2626
02:00:31,457 --> 02:00:35,094
- [Narrator] And more recently, a Project Manager for Shell.
2627
02:00:37,395 --> 02:00:39,798
- I ask myself oftentimes
2628
02:00:39,798 --> 02:00:42,969
why so many companies subscribe
2629
02:00:42,969 --> 02:00:44,904
to corporate social responsibility.
2630
02:00:47,340 --> 02:00:49,809
I'm not sure it's because they
2631
02:00:49,809 --> 02:00:54,547
necessarily want to be responsible in an ultimate way,
2632
02:00:54,546 --> 02:00:57,682
but because they want to be identified
2633
02:00:57,682 --> 02:01:00,920
and seen to be responsible.
2634
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:03,221
But who am I to judge?
2635
02:01:03,221 --> 02:01:05,090
Who am I to judge?
2636
02:01:05,091 --> 02:01:07,827
It's better they belong than not belong.
2637
02:01:07,827 --> 02:01:11,364
It's better that they make some public profession
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02:01:11,363 --> 02:01:14,634
than the opposite.
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02:01:14,634 --> 02:01:17,636
- Social responsibility isn't a deep shift
2640
02:01:17,636 --> 02:01:22,641
because it's a voluntary tactic.
2641
02:01:23,042 --> 02:01:28,047
A tactic, a reaction to a certain market at this point.
2642
02:01:29,481 --> 02:01:33,618
And as the corporation reads the market differently,
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02:01:33,618 --> 02:01:35,253
it can go back.
2644
02:01:35,253 --> 02:01:38,957
One day you see Bambi, next day you see Godzilla.
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02:01:38,957 --> 02:01:40,091
(foot smashing)
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02:01:40,091 --> 02:01:42,527
- How do you define socially responsible?
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02:01:42,528 --> 02:01:44,262
What business is it of the corporation
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02:01:44,262 --> 02:01:47,166
to decide what's socially responsible?
2649
02:01:47,166 --> 02:01:48,967
That isn't their expertise.
2650
02:01:48,967 --> 02:01:53,104
That isn't what their stockholders ask them to do.
2651
02:01:53,104 --> 02:01:56,074
So I think they're going out of their range,
2652
02:01:56,074 --> 02:01:58,310
and it certainly is not democratic.
2653
02:01:59,878 --> 02:02:01,279
- I don't really care
2654
02:02:01,279 --> 02:02:03,882
what the Chairman of General Motors thinks
2655
02:02:03,882 --> 02:02:06,117
is an appropriate level of emissions
2656
02:02:06,118 --> 02:02:09,889
to come out the tailpipe of General Motors automobiles.
2657
02:02:09,889 --> 02:02:11,222
He may have a lot of scientists,
2658
02:02:11,222 --> 02:02:12,891
he may be a very good person,
2659
02:02:12,891 --> 02:02:14,426
but I didn't elect him to anything,
2660
02:02:14,426 --> 02:02:16,895
he doesn't have any power to speak for me.
2661
02:02:16,895 --> 02:02:19,731
These are decisions that must be made by government
2662
02:02:19,731 --> 02:02:21,333
and not by corporations.
2663
02:02:22,301 --> 02:02:24,070
- You take this to its logical conclusion,
2664
02:02:24,069 --> 02:02:28,940
one would have an image that we are in fact at this,
2665
02:02:28,940 --> 02:02:30,208
the end of the world is nigh
2666
02:02:30,208 --> 02:02:34,079
and we are all completely brainwashed
2667
02:02:34,079 --> 02:02:36,047
and there is no space left.
2668
02:02:36,047 --> 02:02:38,917
And I don't believe we're there yet.
2669
02:02:40,819 --> 02:02:42,587
And I think it's really important
2670
02:02:42,587 --> 02:02:44,689
that we don't overstate the case,
2671
02:02:44,689 --> 02:02:47,025
and that we admit that there are cracks and fissures
2672
02:02:47,025 --> 02:02:48,827
in all of these corporate structures.
2673
02:02:48,828 --> 02:02:51,697
And sometimes when a corporation is concentrating
2674
02:02:51,697 --> 02:02:53,532
on one particular project
2675
02:02:53,532 --> 02:02:54,367
they look the other way
2676
02:02:54,367 --> 02:02:56,802
and all kinds of interesting things happen in the corner.
2677
02:02:56,801 --> 02:02:58,403
(light electronic music)
2678
02:02:58,404 --> 02:03:00,373
- It is the case in every period of history
2679
02:03:00,372 --> 02:03:04,609
where injustice based on falsehoods,
2680
02:03:04,609 --> 02:03:08,613
based on taking away the right and freedoms of people
2681
02:03:08,613 --> 02:03:10,849
to live and survive with dignity,
2682
02:03:10,850 --> 02:03:14,353
that eventually when you call a bluff, the tables turn.
2683
02:03:28,533 --> 02:03:33,138
- Ultimately capital puts its foot down somewhere.
2684
02:03:33,139 --> 02:03:35,908
And anywhere it puts its foot down
2685
02:03:35,908 --> 02:03:38,377
it can be held accountable.
2686
02:03:40,912 --> 02:03:44,182
- Originally Wal-Mart and Kathie Lee Gifford had said,
2687
02:03:44,182 --> 02:03:45,117
"Why should we believe you
2688
02:03:45,117 --> 02:03:47,086
that children work in this factory?"
2689
02:03:47,086 --> 02:03:49,422
What we didn't tell them was that Wendy Diaz,
2690
02:03:49,421 --> 02:03:50,288
in the center of the picture,
2691
02:03:50,288 --> 02:03:51,689
was on a plane to the United States.
2692
02:03:51,689 --> 02:03:52,891
This is Wendy Diaz.
2693
02:03:52,891 --> 02:03:54,626
She comes to the United States.
2694
02:03:54,627 --> 02:03:55,928
She's unstoppable.
2695
02:03:55,927 --> 02:03:58,363
- [Newscaster] Congress heard testimony today from children
2696
02:03:58,363 --> 02:04:02,067
who testified they were exploited by sweatshops overseas.
2697
02:04:02,067 --> 02:04:03,836
- Kathie Lee Gifford apologized to Wendy Diaz.
2698
02:04:03,836 --> 02:04:05,570
It was the most amazing thing I'd seen.
2699
02:04:05,570 --> 02:04:09,007
This powerful celebrity leans over and says,
2700
02:04:09,007 --> 02:04:11,609
"Wendy, please believe me,
2701
02:04:11,609 --> 02:04:13,978
I didn't know these conditions existed.
2702
02:04:13,979 --> 02:04:15,581
And now that I do, I'm gonna work with you,
2703
02:04:15,581 --> 02:04:17,048
I'm gonna work with these other people,
2704
02:04:17,048 --> 02:04:19,018
and it'll never happen again."
2705
02:04:19,018 --> 02:04:20,618
And that night we signed an agreement
2706
02:04:20,618 --> 02:04:21,987
with Kathie Lee Gifford.
2707
02:04:21,987 --> 02:04:24,623
- I thought it would be a relatively easy process,
2708
02:04:24,622 --> 02:04:25,757
and it isn't.
2709
02:04:25,757 --> 02:04:27,193
And for every question I have,
2710
02:04:27,193 --> 02:04:30,729
there seem to be five questions that come back at me.
2711
02:04:30,729 --> 02:04:32,565
- As far as Walmart goes and Kathie Lee,
2712
02:04:32,564 --> 02:04:35,000
pretty much everything returned to sweatshop conditions.
2713
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,938
But because this was fought out on television for weeks,
2714
02:04:38,938 --> 02:04:40,538
this incident with Kathie Lee Gifford
2715
02:04:40,538 --> 02:04:41,873
actually took the sweatshop issue
2716
02:04:41,873 --> 02:04:43,541
to every single part of the country.
2717
02:04:43,542 --> 02:04:45,711
And so, frankly, after that,
2718
02:04:45,711 --> 02:04:47,279
there's hardly a single person in this country
2719
02:04:47,279 --> 02:04:48,681
who doesn't know about child labor
2720
02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:50,448
or sweatshops or starvation wages.
2721
02:04:53,985 --> 02:04:57,422
(light electronic music)
2722
02:05:09,734 --> 02:05:14,739
- So what we need to do is to look at the very roots
2723
02:05:15,173 --> 02:05:19,711
of the legal form that created this beast,
2724
02:05:19,712 --> 02:05:23,349
and we need to think who can hold them accountable.
2725
02:05:23,349 --> 02:05:25,618
- They're not graven in stone.
2726
02:05:25,618 --> 02:05:27,253
They can be dismantled.
2727
02:05:27,252 --> 02:05:30,889
In fact, most states have laws
2728
02:05:30,890 --> 02:05:33,659
which require that they be dismantled.
2729
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:38,631
- For too long now, giant corporations have been allowed
2730
02:05:38,631 --> 02:05:41,166
to undermine democracy here in the United States
2731
02:05:41,166 --> 02:05:42,467
and all over the world.
2732
02:05:42,467 --> 02:05:44,135
But today, the National Lawyers Guild
2733
02:05:44,136 --> 02:05:46,906
and 29 other groups and individuals are fighting back.
2734
02:05:48,439 --> 02:05:51,643
We are calling upon State Attorney General Dan Lundgren
2735
02:05:51,644 --> 02:05:54,079
to comply with California law
2736
02:05:54,078 --> 02:05:56,081
and to revoke the corporate charter
2737
02:05:56,081 --> 02:05:58,551
of the Union Oil Company of California
2738
02:05:58,551 --> 02:06:00,853
for its repeated and grievous offenses.
2739
02:06:00,853 --> 02:06:02,520
(people applauding)
2740
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:04,489
- This is a statute that is well known.
2741
02:06:04,489 --> 02:06:05,523
It has been used.
2742
02:06:05,524 --> 02:06:06,659
It can be used.
2743
02:06:06,658 --> 02:06:09,094
What this will mean is the dissolution
2744
02:06:09,094 --> 02:06:11,829
of the Union Oil Company of California
2745
02:06:11,829 --> 02:06:15,234
the sale of its assets under careful court orders
2746
02:06:15,234 --> 02:06:17,803
to others who will carry on the public interest.
2747
02:06:17,802 --> 02:06:20,439
(dramatic music)
2748
02:06:20,439 --> 02:06:22,675
- This is nothing more than just a smear campaign.
2749
02:06:22,675 --> 02:06:25,778
This company has been part of California's economy
2750
02:06:25,778 --> 02:06:28,146
for over 100 years, thousands of jobs.
2751
02:06:28,146 --> 02:06:29,847
Doesn't mean it's never made any mistakes,
2752
02:06:29,847 --> 02:06:30,916
paid for those mistakes.
2753
02:06:30,916 --> 02:06:32,685
But this demonizing of a company,
2754
02:06:32,685 --> 02:06:34,320
I think I'm in a time warp or something,
2755
02:06:34,319 --> 02:06:36,822
that I fell asleep and I woke up 50 years ago
2756
02:06:36,822 --> 02:06:38,056
when we heard that kind of rhetoric.
2757
02:06:38,056 --> 02:06:41,527
- Well we have a very, very broad set of people angry-
2758
02:06:41,527 --> 02:06:42,728
- [Jim] It's a broad set-
2759
02:06:42,728 --> 02:06:43,828
- Very angry at this corporation.
2760
02:06:43,828 --> 02:06:45,530
- Of people from the left of the spectrum
2761
02:06:45,530 --> 02:06:47,332
who don't produce anything except hot air.
2762
02:06:47,332 --> 02:06:50,735
- From its complicity in unspeakable human rights violations
2763
02:06:50,735 --> 02:06:53,372
overseas against women, gays,
2764
02:06:53,372 --> 02:06:55,441
laborers, and indigenous peoples,
2765
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:58,143
to its efforts to subvert U.S. foreign policy
2766
02:06:58,143 --> 02:07:01,913
and deceive the courts, the public and its own stockholders,
2767
02:07:01,913 --> 02:07:05,483
Unocal is emblematic of corporate abuse
2768
02:07:05,484 --> 02:07:07,720
and corporate power run amok.
2769
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:08,587
(people applauding)
2770
02:07:08,587 --> 02:07:13,492
- Extending a business deal with Burma Army is immoral.
2771
02:07:14,460 --> 02:07:17,695
Unocal cannot do business in Burma
2772
02:07:17,695 --> 02:07:21,934
without supporting that hopeless regime.
2773
02:07:21,934 --> 02:07:23,435
It cannot justify.
2774
02:07:23,435 --> 02:07:25,938
(eerie music)
2775
02:07:31,443 --> 02:07:33,612
- The curse for me has been
2776
02:07:33,612 --> 02:07:37,850
the fact that in making these documentary films,
2777
02:07:37,850 --> 02:07:40,719
I've seen that they actually can impact change,
2778
02:07:40,719 --> 02:07:43,689
so I'm just compelled to just keep making them.
2779
02:07:43,689 --> 02:07:46,291
Yep, that's me, doing what I do.
2780
02:07:46,291 --> 02:07:49,261
All year long I give big companies a hard time,
2781
02:07:49,261 --> 02:07:52,097
but at Christmas time I like to set aside my differences
2782
02:07:52,096 --> 02:07:54,465
and reach out to big business,
2783
02:07:54,466 --> 02:07:55,968
like cigarette companies.
2784
02:07:58,970 --> 02:08:00,938
(pitch pipe blowing)
2785
02:08:00,939 --> 02:08:03,909
♪ Deck the halls with boughs of holly ♪
2786
02:08:03,908 --> 02:08:07,645
♪ Fa la la la la la la la la ♪
2787
02:08:07,645 --> 02:08:09,081
I went to Littleton, Colorado,
2788
02:08:09,081 --> 02:08:11,750
where the Columbine shooting took place.
2789
02:08:12,685 --> 02:08:14,953
and I didn't know this, but when I arrived,
2790
02:08:14,953 --> 02:08:18,123
I learned what the primary job is
2791
02:08:18,122 --> 02:08:21,192
of the parents of the kids who go to Columbine High School.
2792
02:08:21,193 --> 02:08:23,462
The number one job in Littleton, Colorado:
2793
02:08:23,462 --> 02:08:25,397
they work for Lockheed Martin,
2794
02:08:25,396 --> 02:08:27,399
building weapons of mass destruction.
2795
02:08:28,500 --> 02:08:30,168
But they don't see the connect
2796
02:08:30,168 --> 02:08:33,137
between what they do for a living
2797
02:08:33,137 --> 02:08:35,873
and what their kids do at school.
2798
02:08:35,873 --> 02:08:36,841
Or did at school.
2799
02:08:38,377 --> 02:08:41,080
And so I'm kind of up on my high horse,
2800
02:08:41,079 --> 02:08:42,948
(laughs) thinking about this,
2801
02:08:44,015 --> 02:08:45,917
and I thought, I said to my wife,
2802
02:08:45,917 --> 02:08:49,721
and we both are sons and daughters of auto workers
2803
02:08:49,721 --> 02:08:51,355
in Flint, Michigan,
2804
02:08:51,355 --> 02:08:54,393
there isn't a single one of us back in Flint,
2805
02:08:54,393 --> 02:08:56,729
any of us, including us,
2806
02:08:56,729 --> 02:08:58,797
who ever stopped to think,
2807
02:08:58,796 --> 02:09:00,865
this thing we do for a living,
2808
02:09:00,865 --> 02:09:02,900
the building of automobiles,
2809
02:09:02,900 --> 02:09:05,002
is probably the single biggest reason
2810
02:09:05,002 --> 02:09:06,904
why the polar ice caps are gonna melt
2811
02:09:08,273 --> 02:09:10,175
and end civilization as we know it.
2812
02:09:10,175 --> 02:09:11,210
(laughs)
2813
02:09:11,210 --> 02:09:13,811
There's no connect between,
2814
02:09:13,811 --> 02:09:16,081
"I'm just an assembler on an assembly line,
2815
02:09:16,081 --> 02:09:16,914
building a car,"
2816
02:09:16,914 --> 02:09:19,952
which is good for people and society, it moves them around,
2817
02:09:19,952 --> 02:09:22,988
But never stop to think about the larger picture
2818
02:09:22,988 --> 02:09:26,391
and the larger responsibility of what we're doing.
2819
02:09:26,390 --> 02:09:29,027
Ultimately, we have to, as individuals,
2820
02:09:29,027 --> 02:09:32,364
accept responsibility for our collective action
2821
02:09:32,363 --> 02:09:36,167
and the larger harm that it causes
2822
02:09:36,167 --> 02:09:38,970
in our world.
2823
02:09:38,970 --> 02:09:41,005
- [Newscaster] Today the first of two
2824
02:09:41,006 --> 02:09:41,840
historic town hall meetings
2825
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,309
will get under way in Arcata, California.
2826
02:09:44,309 --> 02:09:48,012
61% of Arcatans voted in favor of publicly discussing
2827
02:09:48,012 --> 02:09:49,981
whether democracy is even possible
2828
02:09:49,981 --> 02:09:52,283
when large corporations wield so much wealth
2829
02:09:52,283 --> 02:09:53,786
and power under law.
2830
02:09:53,786 --> 02:09:55,386
They also voted to form a committee
2831
02:09:55,386 --> 02:09:57,355
to ensure democratic control
2832
02:09:57,355 --> 02:09:59,657
over corporations in Arcata.
2833
02:09:59,658 --> 02:10:01,493
- Corporations are not accountable
2834
02:10:01,493 --> 02:10:02,995
to the democratic process.
2835
02:10:02,994 --> 02:10:04,462
That's what this is about.
2836
02:10:04,462 --> 02:10:06,197
I don't want to make decisions
2837
02:10:06,198 --> 02:10:07,800
about everything that goes on in their corporation,
2838
02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:10,769
but I do have a strong belief that
2839
02:10:10,769 --> 02:10:12,771
they need to be held accountable to us.
2840
02:10:12,770 --> 02:10:14,038
(crowd applauds and cheers)
2841
02:10:14,038 --> 02:10:14,872
- [Man] Yeah!
2842
02:10:14,872 --> 02:10:16,974
- If we don't like certain products,
2843
02:10:16,975 --> 02:10:19,378
like Pepsi-Cola or Bank of America,
2844
02:10:19,377 --> 02:10:21,679
if you don't like what they do, don't use 'em.
2845
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:25,918
That's the way I see the people's power is.
2846
02:10:25,917 --> 02:10:27,118
- You have a lot more money than me.
2847
02:10:27,118 --> 02:10:28,920
You have more votes than I do.
2848
02:10:28,921 --> 02:10:33,292
If we use the model of boycott and voting with your dollars.
2849
02:10:33,292 --> 02:10:35,828
That's an undemocratic situation.
2850
02:10:35,828 --> 02:10:36,962
- What are we afraid of?
2851
02:10:36,962 --> 02:10:39,164
I mean, are all the businesses gonna leave Arcata?
2852
02:10:39,163 --> 02:10:39,997
I don't think so.
2853
02:10:39,997 --> 02:10:43,034
And if they did, we'd deal with it or we'd figure it out
2854
02:10:43,034 --> 02:10:44,001
or we'd do something different.
2855
02:10:44,002 --> 02:10:45,404
We're creative people.
2856
02:10:45,404 --> 02:10:46,872
I just don't see why we're afraid!
2857
02:10:46,872 --> 02:10:47,773
(audience applauding)
2858
02:10:47,773 --> 02:10:49,608
- If you think it's tough making a decision
2859
02:10:49,608 --> 02:10:51,275
where to buy your stuff today,
2860
02:10:51,275 --> 02:10:53,778
how tough to you think it is when there's only one provider,
2861
02:10:53,779 --> 02:10:54,746
and it's the State.
2862
02:10:55,881 --> 02:10:57,182
And by the way, you don't get to have
2863
02:10:57,181 --> 02:11:00,652
this little democracy forum in those communities either.
2864
02:11:00,652 --> 02:11:03,255
- People that say that they fear their government,
2865
02:11:03,255 --> 02:11:05,524
I really hope that they understand
2866
02:11:05,524 --> 02:11:08,126
that they're allowed to participate in their government.
2867
02:11:08,126 --> 02:11:09,561
They're not allowed to participate
2868
02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:11,462
in anything the corporations do.
2869
02:11:11,462 --> 02:11:12,864
So don't fear the government.
2870
02:11:12,864 --> 02:11:15,634
Help it be the government that you won't fear.
2871
02:11:15,634 --> 02:11:17,636
- If this many people around the country would do this
2872
02:11:17,636 --> 02:11:19,605
instead of watching Superbowl Sunday,
2873
02:11:19,604 --> 02:11:21,606
our nation would be controlled by the people,
2874
02:11:21,606 --> 02:11:23,475
not by the corporations.
2875
02:11:23,475 --> 02:11:25,711
- No more chain restaurants in Arcata
2876
02:11:25,711 --> 02:11:27,546
after a long awaited decision.
2877
02:11:27,546 --> 02:11:30,983
(light electronic music)
2878
02:11:45,663 --> 02:11:50,301
- Over the past decade we have been gaining ground.
2879
02:11:50,301 --> 02:11:52,938
And when I say we, I mean ordinary people
2880
02:11:52,938 --> 02:11:56,807
committed to the welfare of all of humanity.
2881
02:11:56,807 --> 02:11:59,211
All people irrespective of gender and class
2882
02:11:59,211 --> 02:12:00,913
and race and religion.
2883
02:12:00,912 --> 02:12:03,114
All species on the planet.
2884
02:12:03,114 --> 02:12:06,117
We managed to take the biggest government
2885
02:12:06,118 --> 02:12:09,388
and one of the largest chemical companies to court
2886
02:12:09,387 --> 02:12:10,521
on the case of neem,
2887
02:12:10,521 --> 02:12:12,157
and win a case against them.
2888
02:12:12,157 --> 02:12:14,458
(shouting in a foreign language)
2889
02:12:14,458 --> 02:12:16,627
- [Vandana] W.R. Grace and the U.S. government's
2890
02:12:16,627 --> 02:12:17,461
patent on neem
2891
02:12:17,462 --> 02:12:19,364
was revoked by a case we brought
2892
02:12:19,363 --> 02:12:21,699
along with the Greens of European Parliament
2893
02:12:21,699 --> 02:12:24,502
and the International Organic Agriculture Movement.
2894
02:12:24,502 --> 02:12:26,203
We won because we worked together.
2895
02:12:30,775 --> 02:12:33,744
- We have overturned nearly 99%
2896
02:12:33,744 --> 02:12:36,148
of the basmati patent of RiceTek,
2897
02:12:36,148 --> 02:12:39,650
again, because we worked as a worldwide coalition,
2898
02:12:39,650 --> 02:12:41,452
old women in Texas,
2899
02:12:41,453 --> 02:12:42,955
scientists in India,
2900
02:12:42,954 --> 02:12:45,423
activists sitting in Vancouver,
2901
02:12:45,423 --> 02:12:47,158
a little basmati action group.
2902
02:12:48,460 --> 02:12:51,697
We stopped the Third World being viewed as the pirate,
2903
02:12:51,697 --> 02:12:54,032
and we showed the corporations were the pirate.
2904
02:13:01,439 --> 02:13:04,076
Look how little it took for Gandhi
2905
02:13:04,076 --> 02:13:06,578
to work against the salt laws of the British,
2906
02:13:06,578 --> 02:13:08,347
where the British decided the way
2907
02:13:08,346 --> 02:13:11,449
they would make their armies and police forces bigger
2908
02:13:11,449 --> 02:13:13,150
is just tax the salt.
2909
02:13:13,150 --> 02:13:15,953
And all that Gandhi did was walk to the beach,
2910
02:13:15,953 --> 02:13:17,555
pick up the salt,
2911
02:13:17,555 --> 02:13:19,056
and say, "Nature gives it for free.
2912
02:13:19,056 --> 02:13:19,890
We need it.
2913
02:13:19,890 --> 02:13:20,891
We've always made it.
2914
02:13:20,891 --> 02:13:22,226
We will violate your laws.
2915
02:13:22,226 --> 02:13:23,894
We will continue to make salt."
2916
02:13:23,895 --> 02:13:27,599
We've had a similar commitment for the last decade in India,
2917
02:13:27,599 --> 02:13:31,269
that any law that makes it illegal to save seed
2918
02:13:31,269 --> 02:13:33,038
is a law not worth following.
2919
02:13:34,905 --> 02:13:35,940
We will violate it
2920
02:13:35,940 --> 02:13:38,943
because saving seed is a duty to the earth
2921
02:13:38,944 --> 02:13:40,412
and to future generations.
2922
02:13:42,213 --> 02:13:45,149
We thought it would really be symbolic.
2923
02:13:45,149 --> 02:13:46,384
It is more than symbolic.
2924
02:13:46,385 --> 02:13:49,755
It is becoming a survival option.
2925
02:13:49,755 --> 02:13:52,623
Farmers who grow their own seeds,
2926
02:13:52,623 --> 02:13:53,824
save their own seeds,
2927
02:13:53,824 --> 02:13:55,059
don't buy pesticides,
2928
02:13:55,060 --> 02:13:57,062
have threefold more incomes
2929
02:13:57,061 --> 02:13:59,663
than farmers who are locked into the chemical treadmill,
2930
02:13:59,663 --> 02:14:01,800
depending on Monsanto and Cargill.
2931
02:14:02,801 --> 02:14:06,471
We have managed to create alternatives that work for people.
2932
02:14:07,372 --> 02:14:11,309
- There are many tools for bringing back community.
2933
02:14:11,309 --> 02:14:12,944
But the importance is not the tools.
2934
02:14:12,944 --> 02:14:15,113
I mean, there's litigation, there's legislation,
2935
02:14:15,113 --> 02:14:17,749
there's direct action, there's education,
2936
02:14:17,748 --> 02:14:20,117
boycotts, social investment.
2937
02:14:20,118 --> 02:14:22,120
There's many, many ways
2938
02:14:22,119 --> 02:14:26,190
to address issues of corporate power.
2939
02:14:26,190 --> 02:14:27,324
But in the final analysis,
2940
02:14:27,324 --> 02:14:29,461
what's really important is the vision.
2941
02:14:29,461 --> 02:14:31,563
You have to have a better story.
2942
02:14:31,563 --> 02:14:34,365
Do I know you well enough to call you fellow plunderers?
2943
02:14:36,001 --> 02:14:40,072
There is not an industrial company on earth,
2944
02:14:40,072 --> 02:14:45,077
not an institution of any kind, not mine, not yours,
2945
02:14:45,409 --> 02:14:48,313
not anyone's that is sustainable.
2946
02:14:50,448 --> 02:14:53,784
I stand convicted by me myself alone, not by anyone else,
2947
02:14:53,784 --> 02:14:56,188
as a plunderer of the earth,
2948
02:14:56,188 --> 02:14:59,591
but not by our civilization's definition.
2949
02:14:59,591 --> 02:15:01,693
By our civilization's definition,
2950
02:15:01,693 --> 02:15:03,161
I'm a captain of industry.
2951
02:15:03,161 --> 02:15:05,730
In the eyes of many a kind of modern day hero.
2952
02:15:05,729 --> 02:15:10,734
But really, really, the first industrial revolution
2953
02:15:11,970 --> 02:15:15,106
is flawed, it is not working.
2954
02:15:15,106 --> 02:15:17,641
It is unsustainable.
2955
02:15:17,641 --> 02:15:19,911
It is the mistake,
2956
02:15:20,878 --> 02:15:23,849
and we must move on to another
2957
02:15:23,849 --> 02:15:26,284
and better industrial revolution,
2958
02:15:26,283 --> 02:15:28,452
and get it right this time.
2959
02:15:29,688 --> 02:15:31,189
When I think of what could be,
2960
02:15:32,090 --> 02:15:36,394
I visualize an organization of people
2961
02:15:37,462 --> 02:15:39,831
committed to a purpose,
2962
02:15:41,065 --> 02:15:44,735
and the purpose is doing no harm.
2963
02:15:44,735 --> 02:15:49,440
I see a company that has severed the umbilical cord to earth
2964
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:51,275
for its raw materials,
2965
02:15:51,275 --> 02:15:55,346
taking raw materials that have already been extracted
2966
02:15:55,346 --> 02:15:57,615
and using them over and over again,
2967
02:15:57,615 --> 02:16:00,452
driving that process with renewable energy.
2968
02:16:01,752 --> 02:16:02,853
It is our plan,
2969
02:16:02,854 --> 02:16:07,859
it remains our plan to climb Mount Sustainability.
2970
02:16:08,159 --> 02:16:10,862
That mountain that is higher than Everest.
2971
02:16:10,862 --> 02:16:15,233
Infinitely higher than Everest, far more difficult to scale.
2972
02:16:15,233 --> 02:16:19,671
That point at the top symbolizing
2973
02:16:19,671 --> 02:16:21,373
zero footprint.
2974
02:16:21,372 --> 02:16:24,041
(pensive music)
2975
02:16:29,914 --> 02:16:32,149
- So we got to undo a lot of things
2976
02:16:32,149 --> 02:16:34,084
in order to be smart enough to do this
2977
02:16:34,084 --> 02:16:37,321
really dangerous and risky and difficult work,
2978
02:16:38,190 --> 02:16:40,391
the best way that we possibly can
2979
02:16:40,391 --> 02:16:42,960
and that means people coming together and learning
2980
02:16:42,960 --> 02:16:45,663
and a whole lot of stuff that we just don't know
2981
02:16:45,664 --> 02:16:47,097
that has been driven out of the culture,
2982
02:16:47,097 --> 02:16:48,132
driven out of the society,
2983
02:16:48,132 --> 02:16:49,367
driven out of our minds.
2984
02:16:49,367 --> 02:16:51,236
That to me is the most exciting thing.
2985
02:16:51,236 --> 02:16:52,070
That is happening.
2986
02:16:52,069 --> 02:16:54,706
It's happening all over the world now.
2987
02:16:54,706 --> 02:16:59,677
(dramatic music) (speaking foreign language)
2988
02:17:44,456 --> 02:17:47,192
(speaking foreign language)
2989
02:17:47,191 --> 02:17:49,927
(crowd cheering)
2990
02:17:51,629 --> 02:17:55,466
- (speaking foreign language)
2991
02:18:48,386 --> 02:18:52,057
(dramatic orchestral music)
2992
02:19:10,375 --> 02:19:11,376
- Sometimes it surprises me
2993
02:19:11,376 --> 02:19:13,077
how effective you can actually be.
2994
02:19:14,211 --> 02:19:15,180
After we beat the Gap
2995
02:19:15,180 --> 02:19:17,514
I walked past these Gap stores and I looked at them
2996
02:19:17,514 --> 02:19:19,083
and I think, my god there's like 2,000 of these stores
2997
02:19:19,084 --> 02:19:20,085
across the country.
2998
02:19:20,084 --> 02:19:20,918
Look at all that concrete,
2999
02:19:20,918 --> 02:19:22,186
look at the glass,
3000
02:19:22,186 --> 02:19:23,154
look at all the staff people,
3001
02:19:23,154 --> 02:19:24,189
look at all the clothing.
3002
02:19:24,189 --> 02:19:25,323
Look at that power.
3003
02:19:26,191 --> 02:19:28,860
You can still reach these companies.
3004
02:19:28,860 --> 02:19:30,328
You can still have an effect.
3005
02:19:32,063 --> 02:19:35,734
(speaking foreign language)
3006
02:19:59,790 --> 02:20:02,426
- [Richard] We can change the government.
3007
02:20:02,426 --> 02:20:04,962
That's the only way we're gonna redesign,
3008
02:20:04,962 --> 02:20:09,400
rethink, reconstitute what capital and property can do.
3009
02:20:11,403 --> 02:20:13,138
- 15 corporations would like to control
3010
02:20:13,138 --> 02:20:14,773
the conditions of our life,
3011
02:20:14,772 --> 02:20:17,007
and millions of people are saying
3012
02:20:17,007 --> 02:20:18,777
not only do we not need you,
3013
02:20:18,777 --> 02:20:19,943
we can do it better.
3014
02:20:19,943 --> 02:20:23,414
We are going to create systems that nourish the earth
3015
02:20:23,415 --> 02:20:25,049
and nourish human beings.
3016
02:20:25,049 --> 02:20:27,252
And these are not marginal experiments,
3017
02:20:27,252 --> 02:20:30,988
they are the mainstay of large numbers of communities
3018
02:20:30,988 --> 02:20:32,022
across the world.
3019
02:20:32,022 --> 02:20:34,224
That is where the future lies.
3020
02:20:34,225 --> 02:20:35,793
- I've often thought it's very ironic
3021
02:20:35,793 --> 02:20:38,128
that I'm able to do all this and yet what am I on?
3022
02:20:38,129 --> 02:20:39,230
I'm on networks,
3023
02:20:39,229 --> 02:20:40,965
I'm distributed by studios
3024
02:20:40,965 --> 02:20:42,967
that are owned by large corporate entities.
3025
02:20:42,967 --> 02:20:45,069
Now why would they put me out there
3026
02:20:45,936 --> 02:20:49,707
when I am opposed to everything that they stand for?
3027
02:20:49,707 --> 02:20:53,043
And I spend my time on their dime
3028
02:20:53,043 --> 02:20:54,913
opposing what they believe in.
3029
02:20:55,746 --> 02:20:56,581
Okay?
3030
02:20:56,581 --> 02:20:58,450
Well, it's because they don't believe in anything.
3031
02:20:58,450 --> 02:21:00,218
They put me on there because they know
3032
02:21:00,218 --> 02:21:02,921
that there's millions of people that want to see my film
3033
02:21:02,921 --> 02:21:03,922
or watch the TV show,
3034
02:21:03,922 --> 02:21:05,957
and so they're gonna make money.
3035
02:21:05,957 --> 02:21:07,826
And I've been able to get my stuff out there
3036
02:21:07,825 --> 02:21:09,259
because I'm driving my truck
3037
02:21:09,260 --> 02:21:12,430
through this incredible flaw in capitalism.
3038
02:21:12,430 --> 02:21:13,698
The greed flaw.
3039
02:21:13,698 --> 02:21:14,765
The thing that says
3040
02:21:14,765 --> 02:21:17,368
the rich man will sell you the rope to hang himself with
3041
02:21:17,368 --> 02:21:19,470
if he thinks he can make a buck off it.
3042
02:21:19,470 --> 02:21:20,737
Well, I'm the rope.
3043
02:21:20,737 --> 02:21:21,572
I hope.
3044
02:21:21,573 --> 02:21:22,574
I'm part of the rope.
3045
02:21:22,574 --> 02:21:26,144
And they also believe that when people watch my stuff,
3046
02:21:26,144 --> 02:21:28,345
or maybe watch this film, or whatever,
3047
02:21:28,345 --> 02:21:30,781
they think that, "Well, you know what?
3048
02:21:30,781 --> 02:21:32,950
They'll watch this and they won't do anything,
3049
02:21:32,950 --> 02:21:34,751
because we've done such a good job of
3050
02:21:34,752 --> 02:21:37,555
numbing their minds and dumbing them down,
3051
02:21:37,555 --> 02:21:39,023
they'll never affect.
3052
02:21:39,022 --> 02:21:40,357
People aren't going to leave the couch
3053
02:21:40,358 --> 02:21:42,126
and go and do something political."
3054
02:21:42,126 --> 02:21:43,927
They're convinced of that.
3055
02:21:43,927 --> 02:21:45,762
I'm convinced of the opposite.
3056
02:21:45,763 --> 02:21:46,965
I'm convinced that a few people
3057
02:21:46,965 --> 02:21:49,100
are gonna leave this movie theater
3058
02:21:49,100 --> 02:21:52,569
or get up off the couch and go and do something,
3059
02:21:52,569 --> 02:21:56,306
anything to get this world back in our hands.
3060
02:21:56,307 --> 02:21:59,944
(dramatic electronic music)
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