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There's a body of Broad Street
was left outside Carl Lowry's offices.
The dentist who was booked this morning
for unholy amounts of child porn?
There are people out there that can make
children disappear just like...
I'm just not willing to divulge that information
without court order.
Welcome to the UK. Sorry it's shit.
He's been given a pedicure.
His feet are pristine.
And I will love you whether you like it or not.
They want our attention.
Well they've bloody got it.
What have you got there?
Come here.
Oh dear...
Shh shh shh shh shh...
Leave it inland
so the foxes can have it for tea.
Go on.
"And God shall right all sins...
And there shall be no more death...
Nor crying
neither shall there be any more pain."
"And the sorrow ...
You are safe Christ who died
rose again and lives forevermore.
In the name of the Father the Son
and the Holy Spirit."
Amen.
No toast?
Hi Uncle Lou.
Ugh no! It's my morning off.
I've got Jojo remember? Now piss off.
Uh sorry champ.
Found another dead body.
Oh my God where?
The warehouse at Filwood Green business park.
Thoughts?
I'm thinkin' them.
Right I'm gonna need...
I'm gonna need to shower if that's okay with you.
You're lucky I'm in a hurry punk.
-I'm watching you. -Alex!
Yell for Dad for me please Jojo.
Dad Mum's going into work now!
Well you can't go in.
Sorry to be the ghost of Christmas shite.
They've found a second body.
Aw man...
Okay well Lou can't you take this one?
He can't just take this one. That's not how it works.
This one this meeting this morning Jeanette.
I really need this.
I mean look at you you're not even dressed.
Excellent choice of pajamas.
Um look dead body trumps meeting.
Is it a serial killer?
-No Jojo... -Potentially yes.
-Jeanette. -What?
You've gotta be more mindful
he'll get nightmares again.
Can you two just save your divorce
until after we put this mudder behind bars please?
Well okay I can...
-I can get changed. -Please.
Oh no. That's all wrong.
Start again.
A person I didn't know had ripped me open
and I wanted it to go away not die.
Just to never have existed at all.
I knew it was irreversible.
That no matter what I did...
It already existed in the world and it was too late.
I suppose it was all rather funny in the end.
What was? What was funny?
It wasn't a baby after all.
Well what was it?
An egg.
An egg in a onesie.
And I cracked it.
Now it's not rocket science.
Bloody woman I swear to God...
Morning.
I've a question
did you move my handbag from the table last night?
-No. -Mm.
No I wouldn't go near your handbag.
Come on let's go.
Did you mean to keep this?
It was weeks ago.
Never mind.
It's not normal to be wetting the bed at your age.
God.
It's a similar bag.
Looks like.
Young male similar injuries as the first victim.
Cuts and bruises.
Has he been frozen?
We have to confirm.
-And his feet? -Neat and tidy.
Who owns this place?
That guy. David White he's the owner.
Okay.
Mr. White? My name is DCI Jeanette Kilburn.
It's all good.
Mr. White if I could have a few minutes of your time please.
-Yes of course. -Thank you.
I've got a work experience lad here
who's just found a dead body
and he's understandably a bit shaken.
But if you really can't wait...
No I really can't.
-You okay? -Yeah.
When did you arrive this morning?
6:30 had a call from Simon here on the way in.
He was there first.
Last night what time did you leave?
Nine.
There's no one here after me.
Anything unusual any people on or around the premises
-that normally aren't? -No nothing.
Where were you last night?
Well I was at home I was workin' until late.
Anyone here able to corroborate that for you?
Excuse me? What is is is this...?
Do you happen to know an individual called Carl Lowry?
Well what does it bloody matter if I know him?
Well a dead body appears at Carl's place of work
and the very next day
a dead body appears at your place of work
and I'm just you know I...
I wanna know why.
Yeah well you and me both.
Now all I know is I've turned up for work
there's a dead body on my site.
We're shut down for production which is gonna set us back
and now I'm bein' accused of murder.
No no one's accusing you of murder Mr. White.
Well you may as well have done.
I do not like the insinuation.
Now if you require me further
I will come in with a lawyer to the station.
Thank you.
Got clear shot of CCTV from Broad Street.
Halle-fuckin'-lujah.
What have we got on him?
Oh no criminal record. Self-made millionaire.
Our boy's done well.
Former butcher turned entrepreneur.
Supplies most of pork in Somerset.
So if you got sausages this side of the River Severn
-chances are they're one of his. -That's disgusting.
No fiver says Lowry is involved.
Maybe but keep an open mind.
My guy my guy my guy.
We're okay.
Thank you.
There. Punch in.
You see? There's the bag.
Where's he go after that?
Why are we assumin' that's a man?
I think that's a woman.
You know women can do anything they set their minds to
-Jeanette. -Thank you Lou.
The 21st century is delighted you could join us.
Where's he go after that?
He heads down Tailor's Court.
He dumps the bag.
Then he goes down to Broad Street.
-Then we lose him. -Shit.
Do we have today's footage?
-Yeah yeah. -Yeah?
There we go.
Jesus.
Fuck me.
That's deliberate and orchestrated.
They're talking to us.
Yeah but what is he saying?
"I'm a cocky murdering piece of shit
come and arrest me."
Very cocky.
We need to be combing through our databases.
Repeat offenders.
Be specific. ABH GBH?
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. All of them.
Anyone who's been recently released
with violence on their record.
What about their feet?
UK-wide for any trophy hunters.
Absolutely yeah. But why wash their feet?
Well I mean it might be out of respect.
You know someone doing something nice for them?
You know John chapter 13 verse 14.
"If I your Lord and Teacher
has washed your feet
then you ought to wash one another's feet."
So it's like the ultimate deference.
Didn't know you were religious Mike.
I'm not. My mom is though.
Church was intense.
Respect...
And if it is respect
it can't be the person doing the killing
that's dumping them.
what do you want?
Really?
I think anybody who wants to hurt anybody else is evil.
And do you think Angela's evil
or do you think her actions are evil?
She tried to kill me.
I know she's unhappy but I'm not.
When I've spoken to Angela
she's made it very clear that it's her own life
she wishes to end.
Her depression it's it's all-consuming.
She's not currently able to factor you into her thinking.
I just want a normal life.
Just want to live without...
Angela?
Am I speaking to Angela?
It's me.
Sophia.
Angela...
No no no no.
I don't wanna hurt anyone else.
Just don't wanna be here anymore.
Can't do it.
Can't.
What what can't you do?
It's okay.
It's okay.
Here.
Lidocaine it's a local anesthetic.
It's not particularly powerful
and it has a relatively short half-life.
How is it used traditionally?
Primarily pain management but that can come in all forms.
So minor surgeries.
You get it in the cream that you use on bites
if you're havin' a filling done that kind of thing.
Could be a drug Carl Lowry uses on the daily.
Sorry Eva go on.
Epidurals.
But that is heavily controlled.
This this has been injected straight into his bloodstream.
It is the cause of death?
Lidocaine is not powerful enough to poison him
but you see here?
There's a single puncture mark on his wrist.
It looks like a cannula.
like he's been hooked up to a bag.
Whatever it was they were drugging him for
they wanted him wide awake.
So quite possibly he's been tortured.
Look why don't I go through what I've got?
No obvious signs of brain trauma.
But that'll be sent off for further testing.
Here you can see the shattered cheekbone.
His knuckles they're shot to shit.
Defensive wounds everywhere.
And these these missing fingers
they've been bitten off.
Can you age him?
I put him about 17.
Heritage unknown as of yet.
Has he been sexually assaulted?
No evidence that I can see
but we can't rule it out.
Look it's not Lowry's MO.
He likes little girls no killin' young men.
Did you know Lou that it's possible to be into
two abhorrent things at the same time?
But the feet the feet is where it gets interesting.
Pristine.
Savlon on the cuts and the blisters.
His nails they've been cleaned and trimmed.
It's very very weird.
And similarities with our guy at the warehouse?
Well I mean I obviously haven't done the PM.
Because he only came in this morning
and if you recall I am not an actual wizard.
-Mm-hm. -But I did manage to get
bloods off to toxicology.
Oh my God have you?
Tox shows lidocaine in both.
-Yes! -Ow!
Yes.
You know I didn't kill him right?
Well you know what I'm gonna get that interview today.
I'm gonna get it.
Eva if you could get a wiggle on the warehouse guy's PM
that would be much-appreciated.
Now did you schedule your party in the end?
Yes tomorrow night.
I booked out a karaoke booth until late.
You're not gonna believe this.
Okay but my son Jojo
he does have a football tournament
-Tomorrow night. -Oh no come on!
-He does it's the truth. -No no no.
It's the truth.
That's a very interesting time to schedule
a children's football tournament no?
Hm?
I'm gonna phone that woman again.
-The psychiatrist? -Yeah.
Don't make things easy for yourself do you?
No.
Hello?
Oh hi is this Dr. Sophia Craven?
Speaking.
Yeah this is DCI Jeanette Kilburn.
I was wonderin' if you were at
liberty at all to discuss Carl Lowry?
I have a client soon but a quick coffee?
No no no no that's great.
I'll text you the address.
Yeah I can be there straight away.
-Great. -Yeah okay listen
I can't thank you enough...
She's hung up on me so...
Wow okay I've got to go.
Yeah of course you do.
If you need me I'll be in the office doin' my job.
Tryin' not to get myself fired.
Stop!
Stop it now!
Enough!
Fuck you.
Hm.
What is this?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Hey.
Hi.
Uh I wasn't sure how much time you had
so I ordered you a coffee
but then I thought maybe you wanted tea
so I just got both and then I saw a sticky bun
and I thought "You can't go wrong with a sticky bun
can you?"
So um I'm very grateful that you've agreed to meet me.
Sorry. Jeanette.
Sorry are you the...?
The lift bitch?
Yes that's me.
Sorry.
I'll take the coffee.
Okay.
Look um sorry I was a bit tricky on the phone
it's um...
It was a work crisis.
It's fine honestly. I've been there.
Um I'm currently in charge of uh
an active murder investigation.
Mm-hm.
Um at stake my professional reputation
Carl Lowry is somehow involved.
Wow that's uh...
Extreme.
I'm truly in a tricky tight rope here.
My access to him has been slightly hampered.
Ah.
I'd be very grateful
if you could tell me what you know.
And of course...
You understand that this is confidential information?
There's someone out there killing young men.
I might be absolutely wrong about Lowry
but two men are dead
and I am terrified that there is gonna be a third.
So please please.
Can you tell me anything about his psychology?
He truly believes he's done nothing wrong.
He understands that society condemns what he's done but...
He has these core beliefs that
this is the natural order of things
and that therefore
he's ultimately and fundamentally correct.
Fuck me.
Said he could buy me a child.
There are people he knows can produce a child
and make it disappear just as quickly.
In your professional opinion is he capable of murder?
Oh we all are.
Just can't tell you if he's guilty of your murders.
Don't stop looking will you?
I think there's something awful underneath all this
that I'm just not privy to.
There's people like that among us all the time right?
We meet them every day.
Occupational hazard.
I mean I sometimes find it really hard
not to think everybody's bad.
Including me?
I I don't I don't often deal with people like him.
My main area of work is trauma patients.
Mm-hm.
Dissociative identities PTSD.
Can't make your past disappear but you can make it hurt less.
How does that sit with you then?
You're helping the victims' and perpetrators.
Well I have met people like him before.
He is different.
God how does it sit with me? I don't know ask me tomorrow.
Is everything alright?
Ah shoot.
Yeah I've just gotta head back to the station
for uh a bollocking.
Okay.
Look...
Is there any way I could talk to you further?
This has been immensely helpful.
Truly can check me schedule.
Thank you.
Serious thank you. Thank you thank you.
Before I go um...
If they got me this interview what should I ask?
Ask him if the psychiatrist did a good job.
Thank you.
I'll let you know.
Good afternoon ma'am.
Well two men dead in as many days.
It's not really is it?
Uh I understand optics aren't great...
'Optics' is such an ugly word. Two men are dead.
Let's focus on that okay?
Yes ma'am.
The minute the podcasters get their hands on it
our investigation is toast.
Decades of policing under our belt.
But a teenager buys a microphone on Amazon
and suddenly they're Sherlock fucking Holmes.
Young Mike here has been catching me up on
your meeting with Dr. Craven.
I understand you're unhappy
but I received intel that's extremely pertinent to the case.
Dr. Craven has informed me that Carl Lowry
is involved in a pedophile ring of sorts
that procures and disposes of children.
I appreciate that the link to David White is tenuous.
But we've got Lowry in custody.
Before he slips out of here on bail
we should lean on him ma'am.
You may have your interview.
But your conduct may well result in my making a referral
to the Professional Standards Department.
I understand that ma'am thank you.
We are all on the same side Jeanette.
You'd do well to remember that.
Thank you ma'am.
-Ma'am I'm so-- -Don't worry about it
it's fine.
Fucking twat.
So as you can see
Alsace-lorraine is valuable territory
even at this point in history
and sits firmly within German empire post Franco-Prussian war.
What are you gonna wear?
I don't know.
Something I'd wanna fuck me in.
Mate you could cover yourself head to toe in shit
and he'd still fuck you.
He's obsessed.
Don't even.
I'm mucking out on the farm in the morning
so I genuinely might stink of shit.
You're losing your virginity this week you total slut.
Just don't have sex in my parents' bed
or we can never have a party again.
Like you can have sex in my bed
as long as you don't squirt.
Charlie! My God what is wrong with you?
What makes you you?
Obliterated in a single war.
Hey you don't have to do that.
And we don't want these.
You don't want the chocolate?
Okay.
So you can fight yeah?
How would you like to make ยฃ300?
Doing what?
There's a gym around the corner.
You practice punching. When you're ready you fight.
It's ยฃ300 each time.
You don't have to win.
I don't have to win?
I'm serious.
Come along tonight and bring the kid.
For the tape this is DCI Jeanette Kilburn
interviewing Mr. Carl Lowry who's declined
legal representation present.
Is this correct?
-Why waste their time? -Fair enough.
-No coffee. -Mm.
So you're someone else to know what it's like
to be sexually attracted to children?
Does it feel good
to finally be able to talk about it Carl?
You know it really does.
You can end up living a half-life
siphoning yourself away.
It feels like a lie.
Because...
In a world that harps on representation
I will never see the way that I experience love as acceptable.
It depresses me.
Tell me what you know about him Carl.
Why are you showing me this?
Well I've been told that you're the man in the know
when it comes to buying and disposing of children.
So tell me who is this young man
and how did you kill him?
I didn't.
This young man's body was found
outside your offices yesterday morning.
Toxicology reports are back
and he's pumped full of lidocaine.
This young man he was found this morning
outside a meat packing warehouse
also pumped full of lidocaine.
What's so funny Carl?
Oh all of it.
All of it and none of it.
Did you kill these boys?
I'm afraid DCI Kilburn you're very much mistaken.
Are you saying you're innocent in this?
I don't like little boys.
-You like little girls. -What's not to like?
Do you know David White?
I honestly couldn't tell you I'm afraid.
Do any of your friends like young boys Carl?
Of your friends who like little boys
any of them into torture?
I don't know who you could be referring to.
You explain something to me.
Explain why you're so at ease outing yourself as a pedophile
so reluctant to confessing to being a murderer?
Simple because I've never murdered anyone.
Help me find who did then.
Because I think you can help because I think you know.
I think you know.
And if I do?
It wouldn't make a difference.
Did the psychiatrist do a good job?
She didn't do the job she was supposed to.
Now I'd be grateful if I could return to my cell
ahead of my imminent bail.
Interview terminated at 4:34 P.M.
I'm gonna find out what's goin' on here.
Everything.
You know that don't you?
How did that go?
What the hell was that? He's a slippery fucker.
He's a classic pedo.
Oh don't say pedo.
Right so we know that it is not him
physically dumping these bodies but I still think he's involved.
-Why? -Because he's frightened.
I mean he's shit-scared.
Something he said about all of it and none of it.
I mean he knows what's happened
he just won't say or he can't say.
Which is it? Fuck.
Let's see what she's gonna say.
Give me a second.
-Hello? -Dr. Craven?
Hi this is um DCI Jeanette Kilburn.
Ah yes. Hi Jeanette.
Yeah listen I just interviewed Carl Lowry
and I've got more questions than answers
and um I know that I already owe you a favor...
But I was just wondering if it's possible to meet up.
Uh of course. Uh I'm free this evening.
Yes that's good.
-Great. -Yeah I can do that.
You can come around to mine. I'll send you my address.
Sounds like a plan.
Okay I'll be straight there. I really appreciate this.
Thanks ma'am.
-Okay. -Yeah thanks very much.
-Buh-bye. -Bye.
You're sure she doesn't fancy you?
Grow the fuck up for fuck's sake.
Right you gonna give me a lift home or what?
Uh-huh. After you.
-Good night ma'am. -Good night Mike.
Good night.
Come in.
David.
Oh I'm so sorry your appointment was earlier
and I'm afraid you've missed your slot.
I can see you at the same time next week.
If you don't mind I'd really like to talk now
if you're free.
It's urgent please. I'll pay again of course.
Take a seat.
Thank you.
I had a pretty horrific day.
Oh yeah?
And what's happened?
What would you like to tell me about?
Well somethin' has happened.
Somethin' that wasn't supposed to happen.
And we need to talk about control.
What is it about control that you'd like to discuss?
I'd like to play the shopping game.
Alright we can do that David.
David.
Today I went to the shop and I bought...
An egg.
Today I went to the shop
and I bought an egg and some bacon.
Today I went to the shop
and I bought an egg some bacon and...
A silencer.
It's your turn.
Today I went to the shop
and I bought an egg some bacon a silencer...
And a tea set.
Thank you for humoring me.
Please may I be excused?
Not until your father's finished.
But I have homework to do.
Your mother said no.
No means no.
Sorry.
Poured you a glass of wine without even askin'.
Oh sure.
Lowry's not a victim is he?
He's not being set up?
What makes you say that?
When I showed him the photographs I don't know.
I don't think he'd seen them before you know?
But he didn't seem surprised either.
So what do you make of that?
Oh he's involved.
I know he is I just I don't know how directly.
How common is it for someone's victimology to change?
Oh it's relatively rare.
Actually dependent on things like motive opportunity.
Have you ever been so sure of somethin'
it almost sets your teeth on edge?
Yeah.
Yeah I have.
Uh I had a client a young woman.
There was something there it was something ugly.
She completely preoccupied me
to detriment of my other clients truth be told.
What was it about?
She was alluring puzzling terrifying.
And I must've pushed too hard
because uh something awful happened.
Uh she tried to take her life in a session with me.
Christ.
Yeah I uh took her to the hospital.
The reason I bring her up though
is because when I was with her
I've never been so sure in my entire life of something
That feeling you just described it...
I know it because it it haunts me.
What happened to her?
She...
She vanished.
Hi-ya.
Oh God Jojo you scared the life out of me.
Have you found the person who
murdered the boys in the bags yet?
Uh Jojo this is Dr. Craven she's a colleague.
-Hello. -Hi.
She's a psychiatrist and she's assisting someone
and we wanna know if they did it or not
and Dr. Craven is in a good position
to tell us how.
Oh. Interesting.
Mm-hm.
Where's your dad? Is he sleeping?
Uh...
Hello?
-Hi. -Oh hi.
Did you uh did you leave our 13-year-old son
at home by himself?
I had that meeting today remember?
Oh come on he's 13. He's more than capable.
I was left at home on my own at 13.
Yeah so was I that's because we're dinosaurs.
That's completely unacceptable.
Mum it was fine.
I I had a sandwich for lunch
I didn't touch the hob I played Fortnite.
It was fun.
So gaming and lunch? How long were you gone?
It was a full meeting Jeanette. I don't know.
-About four hours? -Four hours?
You left me no choice.
I needed to go to her meeting and it worked out didn't it?
-Guess what? -Hm?
I made a sale.
Yes.
I made a fucking sale
and Joe didn't burn the bloody house down.
I'm so sorry gotta head.
Hi I'm Alex.
-Sorry I... -Sophia this is Alex.
Alex this is Sophia and I'm really sorry
because a domestic was absolutely not
on the cards today.
Yeah we can talk about that later.
Sorry to interrupt.
Mm please um thank you.
Uh just call me if you need anything.
You sure you don't want to stay?
Jojo and I can make ourselves scarce.
No no. Honestly it's fine.
Um congratulations and uh lovely to meet you.
Just message me if you need anything yeah?
Oh...
Is this the gym?
Stay out of trouble eh?
Good boy! Go!
Okay boys we're gonna .
So let's go.
One two three four
five six.
Keep it straight get those legs straight.
One.
Two.
Three.
Tell me about your mother Victoria.
What was she like?
Blind.
Vacuous self-centered.
Cruel.
Alright...
What did she do that was so cruel?
She didn't do anything.
That was just it you see.
A person's cruelty isn't measured by what they do.
Right. I'm going out.
It's what they don't do.
And my mummy...
Let it all happen.
All of it.
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