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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,360 This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,160 I was home, with my family. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,440 Because I'm religious, I didn't open the TV, 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,440 I didn't open the radio, nothing. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,960 I went to the synagogue around 8.30. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,200 SHOUTING 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Then I see everyone running to me, 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,240 "Come fast, we have to do something." 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,000 It took me hours to understand what's going on. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,600 Our people, our civilians that we have a contract with them, 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,760 we failed. 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,520 We failed to protect them. 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,120 The 7th of October attacks and the devastating war they sparked in Gaza 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,480 have brutally reopened scars from decades of conflict. 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,640 The Bible says there is a time for peace 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,480 and a time for war. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,960 This is a time for war. 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Now, with lasting peace as elusive as ever, 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,480 we explore the roots of the crisis. 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Those at the highest level tell the story of how, time and again, 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,200 they tried - and failed - to end the deepening conflict, 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,200 as strained relationships reach breaking point. 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:36,000 What Netanyahu did to Vice President Biden was outrageous. 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,560 It's like the biggest slap in the face. 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,840 I think American Secretaries of State are like moths to a flame 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,800 when it comes to the Middle East. 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,759 We'll see how two decades of failed negotiations 28 00:01:48,759 --> 00:01:50,840 helped Hamas' power grew 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,360 and we'll hear from their leader 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,560 who was killed a month after our interview. 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,560 In this first episode, a controversial Israeli plan for Gaza 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,440 opens the door for Hamas to seize control. 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:17,079 For Sharon, this is a matter of political life and death for him. 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,800 The gut reaction was to view this as a trap, as a conspiracy. 35 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,960 And Palestinian, Israeli and American leaders 36 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,360 grapple with the fallout. 37 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,360 President Bush was looking for an enormous achievement. 38 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,200 Now, what is sexier for an American leader 39 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,320 than a peace agreement in the Middle East? 40 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,320 SHOUTING 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,840 SIREN BLARES, SHOUTING CONTINUES 42 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,400 The deadly conflict between Hamas and Israel 43 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,400 began long before the 7th of October. 44 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,440 SIREN WAILS 45 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,920 One of Hamas' most devastating attacks 46 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:16,680 came in the summer of 2003, 47 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,120 a suicide bombing on a bus in Jerusalem 48 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,680 which killed 23 and left over 100 more seriously injured. 49 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,360 It was part of the Intifada, 50 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,560 the Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation. 51 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,760 The Palestinian President, Yasser Arafat, 52 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,000 had long been accused of turning a blind eye to such attacks. 53 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:45,320 We had arrested many of those who are behind these activities. 54 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,680 But no-one can give 100% results. 55 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,160 Arafat, a former guerrilla fighter, 56 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,160 was an icon of the Palestinian people. 57 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,440 His government, the Palestinian Authority, 58 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,600 was nominally in charge of the West Bank and Gaza Strip 59 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,880 despite Israel's military occupation. 60 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,280 Its goal was a Palestinian state, 61 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,600 recognised by the international community. 62 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,600 Israel's leader, Ariel Sharon, 63 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,159 had ceased all diplomatic contact with Arafat and his government. 64 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,920 He was about to take a decision that would shape the course of events 65 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,120 in Gaza and beyond for years to come. 66 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:22,040 Sharon's radical plan was to end Israel's presence in the Gaza Strip. 67 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,920 But it would be unthinkable for him to do so without the blessing 68 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,160 of Israel's biggest financial and military backer. 69 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,520 He dispatched his Chief of Staff to talk to the Americans. 70 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,880 For us, for the Sharon government, 71 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:46,159 the peace process seems to be frozen. 72 00:05:46,159 --> 00:05:51,120 But the whole world pressured us, 73 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:57,280 "These are the way to agree to a foundation of a Palestinian state." 74 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:01,240 And in this mood, or in this climate, 75 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,440 I met with Condi Rice. 76 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,480 Dubi Weissglas was a kind of combination of a confessor 77 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,600 and Chief of Staff and friend of Ariel Sharon. 78 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,040 He had Sharon's confidence. 79 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Dubi came into my office, and he said, "We have a plan. 80 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,000 "It is a plan that would allow us to go forward 81 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,480 "in terms of the Palestinian state." 82 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,880 So what Dubi Weissglas brought was a proposal for Israel 83 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 to unilaterally withdraw from Gaza. 84 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,360 That meant the Israeli military forces would be gone. 85 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:50,200 And more importantly, settlements, Israeli settlements in Gaza, 86 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,600 would be dismantled and moved out of Gaza. 87 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,760 He started using the phrase that Israel was going to withdraw 88 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,440 from Gaza and throw the keys over the fence. 89 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,480 And basically, whatever happened afterwards was not their problem. 90 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,360 We just sort of all looked at each other like, 91 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,480 "Are we actually hearing what we have been hearing?" 92 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,960 I said, "Condi, this is... 93 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,440 "..not just a serious decision, 94 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:27,440 "this is a matter of political life or death for him." 95 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Rice took Sharon's plan to the President. 96 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Like so many of his predecessors, George W Bush had taken office 97 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,560 hoping to deliver a breakthrough in the Middle East. 98 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,560 When the President first heard of what Dubi Weissglas was proposing, 99 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,840 he immediately embraced it. 100 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,200 And when asked why, he said, 101 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,080 "Because Sharon was willing to take a bold step." 102 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,120 This would sort of shake up things on the issue of Middle East peace, 103 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,000 which was really at a dead end. 104 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,840 I felt, and President Bush felt, that if you had Ariel Sharon 105 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,240 willing to talk about ceding territory, 106 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,920 it was worth taking the chance. 107 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Nobody would question Ariel Sharon's dedication 108 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,000 and devotion to the security of Israel. 109 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Ariel Sharon was celebrated by Israelis as a hero 110 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,320 of their country's long conflict with its Arab neighbours. 111 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,160 In 1967, as a young commander, 112 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,960 he'd played a crucial role in the Six-Day War, 113 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,120 which saw Israel gain swathes of land from Jordan, Syria and Egypt, 114 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 including Gaza. 115 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Since then, despite international condemnation, 116 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,840 Israel had been building settlements 117 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,280 throughout the Palestinian territories, 118 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,160 further cementing its occupation. 119 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,520 By 2003, there were more than 400,000 Israeli settlers 120 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,480 living in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. 121 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,280 In Gaza, there were 7,500 living alongside a Palestinian population 122 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,480 of around a million who were largely confined to the territory. 123 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Sharon knew that any withdrawal would be hugely controversial 124 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:23,400 in Israel, not least within his own party, the right-wing Likud. 125 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,640 MUSIC: Likud Jingle 126 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,400 BOOING, WHISTLING 127 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,720 BOOING 128 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Watching Sharon's address 129 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,760 was one of Likud's most influential politicians. 130 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,480 When the Prime Minister first raised the disengagement idea, 131 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,040 I said that I had no particular desire to have Israelis 132 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,440 stay in the Gaza Strip in a final political settlement. 133 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,800 But I said, "We're not in a final political settlement. 134 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,960 "And if we withdraw unilaterally, 135 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,000 "it will be understood by the Arab terrorist 136 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,760 "to be a reward for terror." 137 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,840 So unwittingly, and inadvertently, 138 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,400 we could be putting wind in the terrorists' sail. 139 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Sharon had made clear that his plan would be carried out 140 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,200 without any consultation with the Palestinian Authority. 141 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Arafat summoned his top advisers. 142 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,840 I remember distinctly the leadership meeting 143 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,280 that was held shortly after Sharon made that announcement 144 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,240 was characterised by a sense of, "What do we do with this?" 145 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,000 This guy was saying he's going to disengage from Gaza, 146 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:44,120 to withdraw from it. How can we say no or object or express reservation? 147 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,480 The gut reaction, the instinctive reaction 148 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,000 of many in the Palestinian leadership at that time - 149 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,240 to view this as a trap, as a conspiracy. 150 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,520 You know, "He wants to do Gaza in order to take over the West Bank." 151 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,320 The accusation that Sharon's plan was simply a smokescreen 152 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,240 for his designs on the West Bank was soon gaining traction, 153 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,120 and not just with Palestinians. 154 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Condi came to us and said, 155 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:17,640 "There are some people in the world believe that your willingness 156 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,160 to leave Gaza is in order to distract attention 157 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,680 "from what's happening in the West Bank, 158 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:30,120 "and we might be considered as part of this conspiracy." 159 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,800 We insisted that when we thought about the Gaza withdrawal, 160 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,080 it couldn't be, as we called it, Gaza only. 161 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,480 The more he could do in making clear 162 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,800 that this was not about dumping Gaza and grabbing the West Bank, 163 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,000 the more we would be able to do to help Sharon politically. 164 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Sharon was ready to give up Gaza for, let's say, good reasons, 165 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,840 in order to strengthen the Israeli presence in the West Bank. 166 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,840 But he understood very well that in order to be able 167 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 to pass it through the Israeli political system, 168 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,320 he needs to get something in return, 169 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,480 and the only ones who could give something were the Americans. 170 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Sharon agreed to make a symbolic gesture. 171 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,840 He'd withdraw from a handful of settlements in the West Bank 172 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,840 as well all of those in Gaza. 173 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,240 In return, he got the American support he wanted, 174 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,920 including a recognition that the biggest settlements 175 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,520 in the West Bank would remain permanently. 176 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,920 We thought that however much they might complain about it, 177 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,560 this was a huge opportunity for the Palestinian people 178 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,240 and the Palestinian Authority. 179 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,200 They got a down payment on a Palestinian state. 180 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,600 They got Gaza, a territory which they would be responsible for 181 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,680 and they would have an opportunity to build and show the world 182 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:56,960 that they were ready to live side by side in peace with Israel. 183 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,960 The Palestinian leadership didn't see it that way - 184 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,200 and they had even more reason to be sceptical 185 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,240 when Sharon's Chief of Staff said the withdrawal 186 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,120 would put the peace process in formaldehyde. 187 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:20,280 I used the wrong term. I meant to say that the road map is inactive, 188 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,840 but it's very much alive. 189 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:29,840 And I said it definitely for the right-wing of our society, 190 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,640 "The Palestinian statehood that you are so much against 191 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,120 "will not happen tomorrow, as might be the case 192 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,680 "if the world will squeeze us." 193 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:46,000 It will happen maybe 5, 10, 20 years, 194 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,880 or it may not happen at all. 195 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Sharon began preparations for the withdrawal, 196 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,040 setting a deadline of August 2005 for all settlers be relocated. 197 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Then, with nine months to go, 198 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,400 came news that shook Palestinians to the core. 199 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Yasser Arafat, the man who'd been the symbol of their resistance 200 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,760 for 40 years, was dead. 201 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,880 The new leader of the Palestinians was a very different character. 202 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Mahmoud Abbas had a background in diplomacy. 203 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,960 President Abbas was the antithesis of Arafat. 204 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,600 He did not believe that you could beat the Israelis in a war. 205 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,720 He thought he would win the battle by convincing the Americans 206 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,880 that the Palestinians were not going to be reverting to violence. 207 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,800 The new President vowed to take on militants like Hamas 208 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,240 in a way that Arafat never had. 209 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Weeks after taking office, he joined Sharon at a summit in Egypt 210 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,920 and announced he would end the Intifada. 211 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Abbas and his team hoped they could now persuade Sharon 212 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,440 to reframe the Gaza withdrawal 213 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,800 as part of a negotiation with the Palestinian Authority. 214 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,440 I said to Dov Weissglas, "Dubi, I understand why you wanted 215 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,560 "to do it unilaterally when Arafat was alive, 216 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,599 "but now you have a new President, 217 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,640 "why not give us the credit for this?" 218 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Our concern was that Hamas would say, 219 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:18,319 "Look, years of negotiations have failed to produce any results. 220 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:22,560 "Israel only responds to violence, only responds to force." 221 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,880 Why not let's sit and negotiate, even pretend to negotiate? 222 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,280 A couple of photo ops, a couple of statements, 223 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,880 so I and my team and my boss can go to our public 224 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:39,000 and say that disengagement is a result of our negotiation process. 225 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,720 Sharon was very consistent. 226 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,600 He said, "If we begin negotiations with the Palestinians, 227 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,680 "it will be endless story because they will always have 228 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,000 "new reservations and new complaints and new demands and we will never 229 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,600 "be able to do what I already decided that we should do." 230 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,920 I remember Weissglas saying to us, 231 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,640 "You don't even understand how we have to talk about this." 232 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,560 "We have to speak about this in Likudish," he said. 233 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,560 "This is a language you don't know. 234 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:13,520 "To speak to the Likud members, the only way to get this approved 235 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,480 "is to say, 'We're doing this for Israel. 236 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,600 "'We're not doing this for the Palestinians. 237 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,120 "'We don't care about the Palestinians. 238 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:22,560 "'We're not talking to the Palestinians.'" 239 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,600 CHANTING 240 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,640 Across Israel, huge protests against Sharon's disengagement plan 241 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,040 were gathering force. 242 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Despite pressure from the right, 243 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,120 Sharon had managed to keep his government together. 244 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,040 Then, just before the withdrawal was due to begin, 245 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,200 one of his key cabinet ministers called a press conference. 246 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,920 I remember he comes in without the usual staff. 247 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,920 So I whispered to Sharon, "He's planning a little drama." 248 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,000 We had this feeling that he's about to resign. 249 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,800 I cannot be a partner to a move that I think 250 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:25,880 compromises the security of Israel, tears the people apart. 251 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,720 The only way that we can win this battle, anywhere, everywhere, 252 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,240 is by confronting terror and not appeasing it. 253 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Appeasement doesn't work. 254 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,280 A week later, Israel began the pull-out from Gaza, 255 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,960 sending in its own forces to evict those settlers who tried to stay. 256 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,400 The operation bitterly divided Israel. 257 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,400 Some soldiers even refused orders to dismantle the settlements. 258 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,400 SHOUTING 259 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:14,240 They took our people out and give the Arabs this building. 260 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Look, this beautiful area. 261 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,040 I want you just to see that. 262 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,080 They think that it will be peace? 263 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:28,000 No, no peace. No peace. With Arabs, will be no peace here. 264 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:38,800 The final Israeli troops left Gaza a month after the operation began. 265 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,160 Israel would still police the borders, 266 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,040 tightly restrict which goods were allowed in and out of the territory 267 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,800 and place controls on the Palestinian Authority 268 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,320 re-arming its police on the ground. 269 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,920 But the day-to-day running of Gaza inside the fence 270 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960 was now officially in the hands of the Palestinians. 271 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,960 CHANTING OVER LOUDSPEAKER 272 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,160 Within hours of the withdrawal, 273 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,160 Hamas and other militants were claiming it as a victory. 274 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,240 Since its founding in the 1980s, Hamas had promised to destroy Israel 275 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,880 by violent resistance, reclaiming the land they saw as Palestinian. 276 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:23,360 Support for Hamas had grown in both Gaza and the West Bank - 277 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,600 and it would soon be put to the test. 278 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,520 Earlier that year, 279 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,080 Hamas leaders had met with 12 other Palestinian factions 280 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,960 and - for the first time in their history - agreed to take part 281 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,680 in elections, in return for what they called a calming of violence. 282 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,840 Leaders of Hamas were pushing for election. 283 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,040 They felt great self-confidence. 284 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,680 And therefore, they wanted the election 285 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,400 because they thought that they had a chance to win. 286 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,160 Parliamentary elections were set for January 2006. 287 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Abbas would remain President whatever the outcome, 288 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,600 but there would be a new Prime Minister. 289 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:02,560 With three months to go, Abbas visited the White House. 290 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,360 The question immediately arose, 291 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:10,000 "You're going to have parliamentary elections - what about Hamas?" 292 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,880 Hamas, to us, was a terrorist group. 293 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,000 How is it that they participate in the elections? 294 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,160 Abbas said, "Look, you say you like free elections. 295 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,280 "Who is my opposition? It's Hamas. 296 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,800 "And if I don't let them participate in any way, 297 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,280 "this is a completely phoney election." 298 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,560 I remember asking about whether or not 299 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,160 Hamas should be allowed to participate 300 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,920 if they were still armed. 301 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,440 In other words, should they have to give up their militia 302 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,080 to participate in the elections, 303 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:49,240 rather like Sinn Fein had done with the Irish Republican Army? 304 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,640 And I remember Abbas saying, "No, if we say that, 305 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,360 "they won't participate, and then it won't be legitimate." 306 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,960 Conventional wisdom was, if Hamas showed up, 307 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,640 the whole process is going to be derailed. 308 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480 But consider how much worse it would have been. 309 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,760 If they were forced not to, 310 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,040 if they were prevented from participating, it was a nonstarter. 311 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840 The saving grace, in a sense, in this argument - 312 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,920 which Abbas also made - was, "They're going to lose. 313 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,720 "I'm going to win. 314 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,400 "Maybe they get 20% of the vote." 315 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,520 Not only does it show it's a free election, 316 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,360 it shows they have a low level of support. 317 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:30,080 And you're going to divide Hamas because there are going to be 318 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,200 some people in Hamas who are gunmen, who are terrorists, 319 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,160 and there are going to be others who like the taste of politics. 320 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,360 You will be creating a divide in Hamas. 321 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,680 The President, of course, was a big advocate of a democracy agenda, 322 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,880 of empowering people. 323 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560 And he thought that it was time for the Palestinians to be given 324 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,920 an opportunity to weigh in on the question of their future. 325 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,360 And so he felt the elections had to go forward. 326 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,440 I want to thank President Abbas for his hard work. 327 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,760 I appreciate your service, Mr President. 328 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,640 I assured him that the United States will use our influence 329 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,560 to help realise a shared vision of two democratic states, 330 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security. 331 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,600 Thank you, sir. Good job. 332 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,480 The election campaign was soon in full swing. 333 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,200 Any Palestinian living in Gaza or the West Bank, 334 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,280 including East Jerusalem, would be allowed to vote. 335 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,920 Abbas's party, Fatah, was struggling to make a real impact - 336 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,880 even with American support. 337 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,040 There was a disconnect between American culture, 338 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,200 political culture, and Palestinian political culture. 339 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:03,040 They sent us the guy who designed the podium for President Bush. 340 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,320 This was well-intentioned, 341 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,440 but this was irrelevant to the Palestinian political culture. 342 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,880 No-one cared what the podium looked like. 343 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,160 I actually went to the West Bank a week or two before the election, 344 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,720 and it was really extraordinary because, all over the place, 345 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,000 there were banners for the Hamas candidates. 346 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,240 And when you looked for Fatah banners, nope. 347 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,440 Fatah placards on the wall? Nope. 348 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,680 It was really quite extraordinary, 349 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,320 because how does Hamas know how to do all of this? 350 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520 They'd never been running in free elections. 351 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Fatah was fielding multiple candidates for the same district. 352 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,200 Hamas was disciplined. They fielded only one candidate everywhere. 353 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,200 They had a very clear, unified message. 354 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,720 Hamas ran a masterful campaign. I remember one of their posters, 355 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000 very powerful. You know, "America is against Hamas. 356 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,840 "Israel is against Hamas. Who are you for?" 357 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,160 And you are addressing Palestinians. I mean, that wins you votes. 358 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,960 With just weeks to go before the elections, 359 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400 some Fatah officials started to worry. 360 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120 They sought help in an unlikely place. 361 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,600 I was approached by a high-ranked Palestinian official. And he said... 362 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,640 .."We are in a big problem with this election, 363 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,160 "but because of the Americans monitoring, we can't call them off. 364 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,800 "The only one who can save us from ourselves, it's you guys." 365 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680 So I said, "What are you expecting from us?" 366 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640 He said, "The issue of the post offices in Jerusalem." 367 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Palestinians in Jerusalem had been voting in post offices. 368 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,240 So all that you need is for Sharon to say, 369 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,960 "There'll be no voting in post offices." 370 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Then the Palestinian Authority would say, "We can't go ahead like this. 371 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,720 "The Israelis have ruined the election." 372 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,120 So he said to the Israelis, "This is what you have to do." 373 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,800 What he said is, "Make a public statement 374 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,360 "which would be sort of provocative and we will call off the election. 375 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,400 "Everybody's happy." 376 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:52,120 About the participation of those who are living in East Jerusalem, 377 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,160 Prime Minister Sharon took a decision 378 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,280 that those who live there will be able to vote 379 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,000 in the villages around Jerusalem, like Abu Dis and others, 380 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:08,800 and not in those post offices within East Jerusalem. 381 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,680 Word soon got around that Abbas was preparing to cancel the elections. 382 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,080 The American consul general was dispatched to see the President, 383 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,160 who was also known as Abu Mazen. 384 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,920 I was asked by the State Department to convey a message to Abu Mazen 385 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560 that the administration wanted the election to go forward. 386 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,800 I passed that message to him, 387 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,040 and after that, there was no further discussion 388 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,560 from the Palestinian side about postponing elections at that point. 389 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,160 As election day came around, Abbas had reason to be optimistic. 390 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,960 The elections went well. 391 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,680 No problems. Everybody who wanted to vote voted. 392 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,680 Polls were showing that Hamas will not win the majority. 393 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,120 Hamas will win maybe 30% to 40%, 394 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000 and Fatah will get the rest. 395 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,960 Of course we are optimistic because we have democratic elections. 396 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,480 I was in Ramallah at the time. 397 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,280 I woke up to a commotion outside. 398 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640 WHISTLE BLOWS, DRUMMING 399 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,360 SINGING 400 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,840 I turned on the TV, and the reporters were saying 401 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400 that Hamas had won the election. 402 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,440 Gathered myself, went to the ministry, 403 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,440 and there was a state of shock, 404 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,080 a sense of, "OK, now what?" 405 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,640 CAR HORN BEEPS 406 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,760 When I went to bed, the last report was that Fatah had won. 407 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,200 So I'm a very early riser, 408 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,960 and the next morning, I was exercising 409 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920 and there was a crawl on the morning news, 410 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,040 and it said, "Hamas wins elections." 411 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,720 And I thought, "Wait a minute. I thought Fatah won the elections. 412 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,720 "Why would this be the case?" 413 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,720 We got to the office right away to try to figure out what to do. 414 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,840 You might think we would have on our desk the scenarios, 415 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,440 "If Hamas wins, we do this, "and if Fatah wins, we do that," 416 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,800 but we didn't. 417 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,880 Nobody had any plans for a Hamas victory. 418 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560 Nobody believed it was even conceivable. 419 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,200 This put the United States in an extremely difficult position. 420 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,280 We were promoting the freedom agenda, 421 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,520 the importance of democracy, the importance of elections. 422 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,040 Were we now going to say that the elections were illegitimate 423 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,000 because Hamas had won them? 424 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,480 I met with Abu Mazen, and the message from Washington was, 425 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,600 was there any way he could avoid 426 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,920 appointing Hamas to lead the government? 427 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,000 The president told the Americans, "You wanted us to have an election, 428 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,400 "free election, democratic election, and this is the result. 429 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,920 "And now I have to accept the result and you have to accept it too. 430 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,240 "You have to pay the price with us." 431 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,440 How the international community responded to the election results 432 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,200 would be determined by a group called the Quartet. 433 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,840 Established to mediate Middle East peace talks, 434 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,920 it was made up of the US, EU, United Nations and Russia - 435 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,200 which was then working with the Americans in the War on Terror. 436 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,960 Their representatives were attending a summit on Afghanistan 437 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360 when Rice called an emergency meeting. 438 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,400 From the American point of view, 439 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,760 there could be no dealing with Hamas. 440 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:27,040 And the argument we made was, "We will destroy our common position 441 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,080 "about fighting terrorism if we say it's OK for Hamas 442 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,239 "to be a terrorist group and be in this government, and we'll just 443 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,040 "deal with them as if they were not holding a gun in their other hand." 444 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,040 The Americans proposed a set of principles 445 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,719 for any new Palestinian government. 446 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,719 They must renounce violence, recognise Israel 447 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,639 and sign up to previous peace agreements - 448 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,760 all things that Hamas would almost certainly reject. 449 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,200 The question was, who would tell Hamas? 450 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Russia was the only member of the Quartet that actually had 451 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,480 a relationship with Hamas. 452 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,800 And so I had to convince Sergey Lavrov, 453 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,440 the Russian Foreign Minister, 454 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,920 not only that it was important that we state these principles 455 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,480 but that Russia was going to have to carry the water in doing that. 456 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,840 It did take some convincing with Sergey, 457 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,440 but as we talked it through, he came to recognise that 458 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,920 the Russian Federation couldn't be on the side of violence 459 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:35,120 in the Middle East. And he did actually carry the message to Hamas. 460 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:41,840 The Russians were saying to Hamas, "Guys, say the magic words." 461 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,440 "Just say some formula about, 462 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560 "'Of course we want peaceful this and peaceful that,'" 463 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,960 but Hamas was not playing ball. 464 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,560 They were remaining Hamas - armed struggle. 465 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:18,200 The Hamas party has made it clear 466 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,840 that they do not support the right of Israel to exist. 467 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,160 And I have made it clear, so long as that's their policy, 468 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,600 that we will not support a Palestinian government 469 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,680 made up of Hamas. 470 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,360 Hamas failed to endorse the Quartet Principles, 471 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,680 failed to disavow violence against Israel. 472 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,960 This did not sound to us like the way to get 473 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,720 a peaceful democratic Palestinian state. 474 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,240 This new democracy that's emerging in the Palestinian territories 475 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,800 must understand that you can't have a political party 476 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:59,400 that also has got a armed wing to it, that democracies yield peace. 477 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,960 We were in a state of confusion, but also a state of indignation. 478 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,280 We undertook this process as you demanded, 479 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,440 at the time that you insisted we do it, 480 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,600 and now you are rejecting it. 481 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,000 How is that democracy? How is that rational? 482 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,400 But we were told in no uncertain terms by the Quartet, "Nope. 483 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,280 "That outcome is not amenable to our principles, to our vision. 484 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,920 "You either fix this or it's a no-go." 485 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,240 Abbas invited Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas' leader in Gaza, 486 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,600 to become Prime Minister. 487 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,760 The government he formed would be in charge of crucial parts 488 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,640 of Palestinian life in both Gaza and the West Bank. 489 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,400 But the Quartet Principles meant its ministries could not directly 490 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,720 receive the international aid on which they desperately relied. 491 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,520 The money would instead have to go through 492 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600 the Fatah-run Presidency of Abbas in Ramallah. 493 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,160 Our hope really was that Hamas would be isolated in Gaza, 494 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,160 so either Hamas would reform and become a legitimate political party 495 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400 or it would remain isolated. 496 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,320 And the hope was that if you had a failure in Gaza, you had a success 497 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,760 in the West Bank, Palestinian politics would resolve this issue 498 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,520 and, in short, that Gazans would throw off the yoke of Hamas. 499 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,360 The Western powers 500 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,880 wanted to create a split between the President's office 501 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040 and the Prime Minister's office. 502 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,720 And the split would be total because the President's office 503 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,600 will be receiving the money and will be talking to the West 504 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,000 while the government, with its health ministry 505 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,000 and economic ministry and education ministry, would receive no money. 506 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,520 This was a disaster for Palestinians altogether. 507 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,000 The breakdown in relations between Hamas and Fatah was soon 508 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,080 only too evident and quickly spilled onto the streets of Gaza. 509 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,200 With American backing, Abbas had started training thousands 510 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,920 of new recruits to his Presidential Guard to police the territory. 511 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,720 GUNSHOTS 512 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,200 Hamas fighters refused to accept their authority. 513 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,960 By early 2007, dozens had died in clashes between the two sides 514 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960 and images of Palestinians killing Palestinians 515 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,560 were broadcast around the Arab world. 516 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,080 The region's most powerful leader decided to intervene. 517 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,400 The King of Saudi Arabia - 518 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,160 the custodian of Islam's most sacred sites - 519 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,320 invited Hamas and Fatah to Mecca to talk about reconciling. 520 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,520 The Saudis pay a lot of money for the Palestinian Authority. 521 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,600 Therefore, it was not only hard to say no to them, 522 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,400 it was almost impossible. 523 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,240 The final text didn't mention the recognition of Israel. 524 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:46,000 It simply stated that both Hamas and Fatah would stop shedding 525 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,040 Palestinian blood and stressed the importance of national unity 526 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,040 to confront the Israeli occupation. 527 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,840 Back in Gaza, the divisions between Hamas and Fatah would only deepen. 528 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120 Hamas was very frightened that the Americans 529 00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:01,320 were helping Fatah to end the presence of Hamas by force. 530 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,320 And Fatah was thinking the same, 531 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:11,080 that Hamas was going to do something to take over Gaza. 532 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,600 So, one night, I decided to go to see what's the situation like. 533 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640 And it was a bit shocking. 534 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:25,200 We were driving around and we saw, on every corner of every street, 535 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:32,360 a Hamas fighter carrying his RPG on his back, not hiding. 536 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,120 So the next day, I went to the President and we said to him 537 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,720 that the situation is not good and something has to happen. 538 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:45,560 GUNSHOTS 539 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,320 It was Hamas who acted first. 540 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,360 In June, its fighters caught the Fatah security forces off-guard 541 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,680 and seized control, 542 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,480 saying that only Hamas had the legitimacy to run Gaza. 543 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,400 Within days, Hamas had pushed the Presidential Guard 544 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,200 out of Gaza entirely. 545 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,480 Abbas called his top advisers to his West Bank headquarters. 546 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000 There was a very solemn meeting, as you can imagine. 547 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,600 And, you know, by that time, 548 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,760 the feeling had set in that this was a violent takeover of power. 549 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,800 Well, this was the ultimate...scenario, if you want, 550 00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:02,240 the ultimate split. You have two powers, two factions 551 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:06,360 controlling the two areas of the West Bank and Gaza. 552 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,000 Abbas's authority was at rock-bottom. 553 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,920 He'd come to office promising to negotiate a two-state solution, 554 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,320 but had now lost control of one of the Palestinian territories 555 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,320 on which that vision depended. 556 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,960 Weeks later, he was in Egypt for a summit with some of the region's 557 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,880 biggest players, including Israel's new Prime Minister. 558 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,960 Abu Mazen, for all practical purposes, 559 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,960 seemed to have been dead, and we decided to revive him, 560 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,880 to bring him into life again. 561 00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:49,240 Ehud Olmert had taken office the previous year, 562 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,960 after Ariel Sharon suffered a massive stroke 563 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,720 from which he would never recover. 564 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,680 Unlike Sharon, Olmert promised direct peace talks 565 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,880 with the Palestinians. 566 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,400 Olmert was totally different to Sharon. 567 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:11,200 Olmert was the mayor of Jerusalem, which had East Jerusalem within it. 568 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,600 And therefore he knew how to deal with the Palestinians, 569 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,160 with the Arabs. 570 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,280 He knew that the predicament of Abbas 571 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,520 was very difficult at the time. 572 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,160 And he knew that the Israelis need peace, 573 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,120 need to finish this issue once and for all. 574 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,400 While we were talking, one of my assistants broke into the room 575 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,920 and said, "Prime Minister, we need you outside." 576 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,600 I have a telephone call. The head of the secret service calls me, 577 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,760 and he says, "There is a meeting now taking place in Gaza 578 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,640 "with 12 of all the leaders of Hamas." 579 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:15,840 And he said, "We have an F-16 with one-ton bomb ready, 580 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,640 "and they will all be killed. I just need your OK." 581 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:25,960 I said, "Look, I sit right now with President Mubarak, 582 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,600 "with King Abdullah and with President Mahmoud Abbas." 583 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,160 "If, while we sit in Sharm El Sheikh, the leaders of Hamas 584 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,520 "will be assassinated - I mean, eliminated - by us, 585 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,080 "they will be implicated to have cooperated with us 586 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,720 "in killing Palestinians and this will be their end. 587 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:49,840 "And I'm not going to risk my partners, 588 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,760 "even for the sake of such...a very desired achievement. 589 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,000 "Say no." 590 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,800 Hamas' leadership in Gaza remained intact. 591 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,040 And while Olmert and Abbas were talking about a peace deal, 592 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,840 its fighters were building their capabilities, 593 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,240 firing barrage after barrage of rockets into Israel. 594 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,880 For the US President and his Secretary of State, 595 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120 the clock was ticking. 596 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,800 Their final term in office was coming to an end, 597 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,120 and they desperately wanted to see a peace deal. 598 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,640 The President thought if Abbas could work out an agreement 599 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,600 that would establish a Palestinian state, 600 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,800 then that outcome could be taken to the people of Gaza and say, 601 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,680 "Do you want to continue to live under Hamas? 602 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,160 "Or do you want to join and be part of this Palestinian state? 603 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,560 "You decide." 604 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,200 Condi was in no doubt that we should continue to move forward 605 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,760 despite, you know, the loss of Gaza. 606 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,160 This was hers. And, after all, she had a partner in Olmert. 607 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,880 Progress was slow. 608 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,640 After several rounds of talks, Olmert and Abbas 609 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,240 had made little headway. 610 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,760 Rice flew to Israel to try to move things forward. 611 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,520 I was invited to dinner with the Prime Minister 612 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,960 and a little bit surprised that he said to me, 613 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,680 "I want to have dinner with you alone. 614 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,800 "I don't want anyone to be there." 615 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:41,120 There was a table, two seats, and I started to talk. 616 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,160 The waiters came with food, and I say, "No, no, no, no!" 617 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,800 And they went! 618 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,800 I could tell that he was a bit nervous somehow, 619 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,720 that this was different. 620 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:57,160 And he started to say that he believed that if we were 621 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:03,200 going to make progress, what he had to do was to put on the table... 622 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,480 He didn't say it this way, but it was almost Israel's final offer 623 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,720 on how we would get to a two-state solution. 624 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:14,880 And then he began to describe what he had in mind. 625 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,040 Olmert told Rice that he was ready to offer Abbas a deal 626 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,280 that would see Israel withdraw from 95% of the West Bank. 627 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,240 And he even went on to talk about the controversial subject 628 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,160 of Jerusalem and its iconic religious sites. 629 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,760 I said the Arab side of Jerusalem will be part of a Palestinian state, 630 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,680 will be the capital of a Palestinian state. 631 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,360 And then I said the Holy Basin will not be under 632 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,040 the exclusive sovereignty of anyone. 633 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,680 And there will be a trust of five nations - 634 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:55,200 Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Palestine, Israel and America - 635 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,280 under the auspices of the UN Security Council. 636 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,040 I thought, "This, in some ways, might be the breakthrough." 637 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,640 It's easy to think of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 638 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,840 as a political conflict. 639 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560 But I remember my first trip to Jerusalem 640 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,360 and looking at the Holy Sites with that extraordinary light 641 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,400 that is only there in Jerusalem 642 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,680 and seeing that the Holy Sites don't meet in Jerusalem, 643 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,680 they clash in Jerusalem. 644 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,480 And so this acknowledgement that something had to be done also 645 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,800 about the religious element of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. 646 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,120 I was very excited because it was the first time 647 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,720 that I presented the full scale, the whole programme. 648 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,960 And it... It erupts like a volcano 649 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,920 from my chest to her. 650 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,160 I was writing as fast as I could, 651 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,160 trying to keep up with what I was hearing, 652 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:03,200 and he was accelerating in his speech as he went through this. 653 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,840 And I knew that this was a very special moment 654 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,440 and what to do about it, what to do with it. 655 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,040 Rice went back to her hotel to talk to her team. 656 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,720 I was amazed by the offer 657 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:22,840 because it went much further than the Israelis had ever gone. 658 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,640 My reaction to this was, "Wait a minute. 659 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,640 "He told Condi. Has he told his cabinet?" 660 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,280 And I was actually fearful. 661 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:37,400 Because where are we if Olmert proposes this to Abbas 662 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,640 and Abbas says yes 663 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,120 and the Israeli cabinet says no, or the Knesset says no? 664 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,800 That's the end of the peace effort. 665 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,520 Before Olmert had a chance to present his plan to Abbas, 666 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,080 he was forced to confront a different problem. 667 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520 NEWSREADER: The Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, 668 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,880 has denied allegations that he took illegal campaign contributions 669 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,040 from an American businessman. 670 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,680 The allegation, essentially, is that he received 671 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,280 hundreds of thousands of dollars from a Jewish-American financier 672 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,560 who is known in Israeli press as The Laundryman. 673 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,040 As we say in Hebrew, in Yiddish, it's a "lange maiseh" - 674 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,840 it's a long story - 675 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:27,880 because from day one of my Prime Ministership, 676 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,680 there were investigations conducted against me 677 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,680 by all my political rivals. 678 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,760 And I knew from the beginning that I was, in a way, 679 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,840 playing on a borrowed time, 680 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,000 and therefore I have to hurry up and to move forward as fast as I can. 681 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,280 After police launched an official investigation, 682 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,360 Olmert announced he would step down as soon as a new leader was chosen. 683 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,560 Nevertheless, he decided to press ahead with Abbas. 684 00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:18,280 We went to this meeting. It was the President and myself. 685 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:25,560 So after we had some time talking, 686 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,600 Olmert asked the President to go with him to a separate room. 687 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,200 I brought this map and I presented it to Abu Mazen. 688 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,720 This is the first time that I exposed this map to the media. 689 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:40,480 You can see here it says, 690 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:47,000 "Annexed to Israel 4.9% of the territory of the West Bank," 691 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,560 and the blue stains here are what was scheduled 692 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200 or what was planned to be annexed to Israel. 693 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,360 The map that Olmert presented showed Israel withdrawing 694 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,440 from the vast majority of the West Bank. 695 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,680 It would retain the largest settlements, 696 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,280 but the Palestinians would be given Israeli land in return. 697 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,240 The plan would also connect Gaza and the West Bank via a tunnel 698 00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:16,160 or highway, to help re-unite the two territories politically. 699 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,120 He said, "Prime Minister, this is very serious. 700 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,440 "It is very, very, very serious." 701 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,080 He says, "Give me the map." 702 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,120 I said, "President, I will not give you the map 703 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,120 "unless you sign it by initials." 704 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,160 I said, "President, I beg you. 705 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,720 "Listen, in the next 50 years, 706 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:42,400 "you will not find one Israeli leader that will propose to you 707 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,200 "what I propose to you now. Sign it, sign it and let's change history!" 708 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:56,200 And he said to me, you know, "I need my map expert to go over it." 709 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,440 So I said, "OK, let's set up a meeting tomorrow 710 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,240 "for your map expert and my map expert." And he said, "Fine." 711 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:05,200 So we parted, you know, like 712 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,280 we are about to embark on an historic step forward. 713 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,400 We said goodbye and we went into the car. 714 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,240 And the President said that Prime Minister Olmert said, 715 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:23,320 "If you agree to this, we can sign a deal." 716 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,440 And of course we laughed 717 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,720 because it is unfortunate that Olmert, 718 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:40,920 regardless of how nice he was, he's a lame duck - in American terms - 719 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:46,080 and therefore we will go nowhere with this. 720 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:52,800 Next day, they called, 721 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,680 and they said, "Well, the President forgot that he has got to go 722 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,240 "to Amman and, you know, we'll come back to you." 723 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,680 I've been waiting 15 years for this. 724 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,000 Nine days later, Abbas flew to America to see Bush. 725 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,760 Mr President, welcome back. 726 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,960 The American President hadn't given up hope 727 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,640 of making a breakthrough before he left office. 728 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,400 His argument to Abbas was, "Seize the opportunity 729 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,160 "and do a peace deal now." 730 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,880 If he would accept a peace deal with the Israelis, 731 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,520 it would then give him a platform 732 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,560 to go to the people of Gaza 733 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,400 and bring Gaza and the West Bank back together. 734 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,160 Bush's view was, "This was a time for boldness, for leadership, 735 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,520 "a historic opportunity." 736 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,040 And unfortunately, Abbas did not seize it. 737 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,320 Olmert presented this map to President Abbas 738 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,600 but told him that he cannot take a copy. 739 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:06,600 How can you sign on the biggest deal in the history of the Palestinians - 740 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,720 that is peace agreement with Israel - 741 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,000 when you don't know what the map looked like exactly, 742 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,520 and what are the conditions surrounding the map? 743 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,000 That's not a good deal. 744 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,040 We might as well wait for the next Prime Minister to come. 745 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,440 In four months, Bush would leave office - 746 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,600 the latest US President who would do so 747 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,120 without the peace deal they'd craved. 748 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,320 Israelis, meanwhile, prepared to go to the polls in an election 749 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,440 that would determine the course of the peace process for years to come. 750 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:56,960 With Netanyahu, you had to lay down a very strong line to begin with. 751 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,040 Netanyahu said Obama said to him, 752 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,400 "You know what I do with people who disagree with me?" 753 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,240 and then drew a finger across his neck. 106951

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