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This programme contains scenes
which some viewers may find upsetting
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I was home, with my family.
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Because I'm religious,
I didn't open the TV,
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I didn't open the radio, nothing.
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I went to the synagogue around 8.30.
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SHOUTING
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Then I see everyone running to me,
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"Come fast,
we have to do something."
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It took me hours to understand
what's going on.
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Our people, our civilians
that we have a contract with them,
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we failed.
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We failed to protect them.
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The 7th of October attacks and the
devastating war they sparked in Gaza
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have brutally reopened scars
from decades of conflict.
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The Bible says
there is a time for peace
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and a time for war.
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This is a time for war.
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Now, with lasting peace
as elusive as ever,
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we explore the roots of the crisis.
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Those at the highest level tell
the story of how, time and again,
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they tried - and failed -
to end the deepening conflict,
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as strained relationships
reach breaking point.
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What Netanyahu did to
Vice President Biden was outrageous.
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It's like the biggest slap
in the face.
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I think American Secretaries
of State are like moths to a flame
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when it comes to the Middle East.
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We'll see how two decades
of failed negotiations
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helped Hamas' power grew
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and we'll hear from their leader
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who was killed a month
after our interview.
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In this first episode, a
controversial Israeli plan for Gaza
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opens the door
for Hamas to seize control.
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For Sharon, this is a matter of
political life and death for him.
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The gut reaction was to view this
as a trap, as a conspiracy.
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And Palestinian, Israeli
and American leaders
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grapple with the fallout.
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President Bush was looking
for an enormous achievement.
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Now, what is sexier
for an American leader
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than a peace agreement
in the Middle East?
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SHOUTING
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SIREN BLARES, SHOUTING CONTINUES
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The deadly conflict
between Hamas and Israel
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began long before
the 7th of October.
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SIREN WAILS
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One of Hamas'
most devastating attacks
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came in the summer of 2003,
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a suicide bombing
on a bus in Jerusalem
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which killed 23 and left
over 100 more seriously injured.
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It was part of the Intifada,
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the Palestinian uprising
against Israeli occupation.
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The Palestinian President,
Yasser Arafat,
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had long been accused of turning
a blind eye to such attacks.
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We had arrested many of those
who are behind these activities.
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But no-one can give 100% results.
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Arafat, a former guerrilla fighter,
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was an icon of
the Palestinian people.
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His government,
the Palestinian Authority,
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was nominally in charge of
the West Bank and Gaza Strip
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despite Israel's
military occupation.
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Its goal was a Palestinian state,
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recognised by
the international community.
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Israel's leader, Ariel Sharon,
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had ceased all diplomatic contact
with Arafat and his government.
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He was about to take a decision that
would shape the course of events
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in Gaza and beyond
for years to come.
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Sharon's radical plan was to end
Israel's presence in the Gaza Strip.
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But it would be unthinkable for him
to do so without the blessing
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of Israel's biggest financial
and military backer.
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He dispatched his Chief of Staff
to talk to the Americans.
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For us, for the Sharon government,
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the peace process
seems to be frozen.
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But the whole world pressured us,
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"These are the way to agree to a
foundation of a Palestinian state."
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And in this mood,
or in this climate,
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I met with Condi Rice.
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Dubi Weissglas was a kind of
combination of a confessor
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and Chief of Staff
and friend of Ariel Sharon.
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He had Sharon's confidence.
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Dubi came into my office,
and he said, "We have a plan.
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"It is a plan that would allow us
to go forward
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"in terms
of the Palestinian state."
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So what Dubi Weissglas brought
was a proposal for Israel
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to unilaterally withdraw from Gaza.
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That meant the Israeli
military forces would be gone.
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And more importantly, settlements,
Israeli settlements in Gaza,
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would be dismantled
and moved out of Gaza.
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He started using the phrase
that Israel was going to withdraw
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from Gaza and throw the keys
over the fence.
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And basically, whatever happened
afterwards was not their problem.
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We just sort of all
looked at each other like,
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"Are we actually hearing
what we have been hearing?"
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I said, "Condi, this is...
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"..not just a serious decision,
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"this is a matter of
political life or death for him."
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Rice took Sharon's plan
to the President.
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Like so many of his predecessors,
George W Bush had taken office
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hoping to deliver a breakthrough
in the Middle East.
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When the President first heard of
what Dubi Weissglas was proposing,
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he immediately embraced it.
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And when asked why, he said,
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"Because Sharon was willing
to take a bold step."
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This would sort of shake up things
on the issue of Middle East peace,
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which was really at a dead end.
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I felt, and President Bush felt,
that if you had Ariel Sharon
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willing to talk about
ceding territory,
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it was worth taking the chance.
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Nobody would question
Ariel Sharon's dedication
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and devotion to the security
of Israel.
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Ariel Sharon was celebrated
by Israelis as a hero
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of their country's long conflict
with its Arab neighbours.
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In 1967, as a young commander,
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he'd played a crucial role
in the Six-Day War,
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which saw Israel gain swathes of
land from Jordan, Syria and Egypt,
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including Gaza.
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Since then,
despite international condemnation,
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Israel had been building settlements
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throughout the
Palestinian territories,
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further cementing its occupation.
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By 2003, there were more than
400,000 Israeli settlers
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living in the West Bank,
including East Jerusalem.
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In Gaza, there were 7,500 living
alongside a Palestinian population
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of around a million who were
largely confined to the territory.
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Sharon knew that any withdrawal
would be hugely controversial
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in Israel, not least within
his own party, the right-wing Likud.
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MUSIC: Likud Jingle
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BOOING, WHISTLING
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BOOING
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Watching Sharon's address
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was one of Likud's
most influential politicians.
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When the Prime Minister first
raised the disengagement idea,
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I said that I had no particular
desire to have Israelis
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stay in the Gaza Strip
in a final political settlement.
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But I said, "We're not in
a final political settlement.
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"And if we withdraw unilaterally,
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"it will be understood
by the Arab terrorist
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"to be a reward for terror."
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So unwittingly, and inadvertently,
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we could be putting wind
in the terrorists' sail.
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Sharon had made clear that
his plan would be carried out
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without any consultation
with the Palestinian Authority.
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Arafat summoned his top advisers.
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I remember distinctly
the leadership meeting
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that was held shortly after
Sharon made that announcement
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was characterised by a sense of,
"What do we do with this?"
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This guy was saying
he's going to disengage from Gaza,
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to withdraw from it. How can we say
no or object or express reservation?
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The gut reaction,
the instinctive reaction
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of many in the Palestinian
leadership at that time -
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to view this as a trap,
as a conspiracy.
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You know, "He wants to do Gaza in
order to take over the West Bank."
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The accusation that Sharon's plan
was simply a smokescreen
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for his designs on the West Bank
was soon gaining traction,
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and not just with Palestinians.
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Condi came to us and said,
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"There are some people in the world
believe that your willingness
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to leave Gaza is in order
to distract attention
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"from what's happening
in the West Bank,
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"and we might be considered
as part of this conspiracy."
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We insisted that when we thought
about the Gaza withdrawal,
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it couldn't be, as we called it,
Gaza only.
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The more he could do in making clear
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that this was not about dumping Gaza
and grabbing the West Bank,
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the more we would be able to do
to help Sharon politically.
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Sharon was ready to give up Gaza
for, let's say, good reasons,
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in order to strengthen the Israeli
presence in the West Bank.
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But he understood very well
that in order to be able
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to pass it through
the Israeli political system,
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he needs to get something
in return,
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and the only ones who could
give something were the Americans.
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Sharon agreed to make
a symbolic gesture.
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He'd withdraw from a handful
of settlements in the West Bank
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as well all of those in Gaza.
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In return, he got
the American support he wanted,
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including a recognition
that the biggest settlements
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in the West Bank
would remain permanently.
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We thought that however much
they might complain about it,
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this was a huge opportunity
for the Palestinian people
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and the Palestinian Authority.
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They got a down payment
on a Palestinian state.
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They got Gaza, a territory
which they would be responsible for
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and they would have an opportunity
to build and show the world
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that they were ready to live
side by side in peace with Israel.
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The Palestinian leadership
didn't see it that way -
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and they had even more reason
to be sceptical
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when Sharon's Chief of Staff said
the withdrawal
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would put the peace process
in formaldehyde.
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I used the wrong term. I meant to
say that the road map is inactive,
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but it's very much alive.
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And I said it definitely
for the right-wing of our society,
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"The Palestinian statehood
that you are so much against
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"will not happen tomorrow,
as might be the case
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"if the world will squeeze us."
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It will happen
maybe 5, 10, 20 years,
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or it may not happen at all.
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Sharon began preparations
for the withdrawal,
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setting a deadline of August 2005
for all settlers be relocated.
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Then, with nine months to go,
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came news that shook Palestinians
to the core.
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Yasser Arafat, the man who'd been
the symbol of their resistance
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for 40 years, was dead.
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The new leader of the Palestinians
was a very different character.
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Mahmoud Abbas had a background
in diplomacy.
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President Abbas
was the antithesis of Arafat.
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He did not believe that you could
beat the Israelis in a war.
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He thought he would win the battle
by convincing the Americans
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that the Palestinians were not
going to be reverting to violence.
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The new President vowed to take on
militants like Hamas
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in a way that Arafat never had.
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Weeks after taking office, he joined
Sharon at a summit in Egypt
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and announced
he would end the Intifada.
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Abbas and his team hoped
they could now persuade Sharon
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to reframe the Gaza withdrawal
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as part of a negotiation
with the Palestinian Authority.
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I said to Dov Weissglas,
"Dubi, I understand why you wanted
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"to do it unilaterally
when Arafat was alive,
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"but now you have a new President,
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"why not give us the credit
for this?"
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Our concern was that
Hamas would say,
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"Look, years of negotiations
have failed to produce any results.
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"Israel only responds to violence,
only responds to force."
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Why not let's sit and negotiate,
even pretend to negotiate?
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A couple of photo ops,
a couple of statements,
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so I and my team and my boss
can go to our public
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and say that disengagement is
a result of our negotiation process.
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Sharon was very consistent.
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He said, "If we begin negotiations
with the Palestinians,
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"it will be endless story
because they will always have
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"new reservations and new complaints
and new demands and we will never
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"be able to do what I already
decided that we should do."
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I remember Weissglas saying to us,
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"You don't even understand
how we have to talk about this."
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"We have to speak about this
in Likudish," he said.
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"This is a language you don't know.
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"To speak to the Likud members,
the only way to get this approved
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"is to say, 'We're doing this
for Israel.
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"'We're not doing this
for the Palestinians.
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"'We don't care about
the Palestinians.
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"'We're not talking
to the Palestinians.'"
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CHANTING
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Across Israel, huge protests
against Sharon's disengagement plan
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were gathering force.
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Despite pressure
from the right,
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Sharon had managed to keep
his government together.
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Then, just before the withdrawal
was due to begin,
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one of his key cabinet ministers
called a press conference.
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I remember he comes in
without the usual staff.
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So I whispered to Sharon,
"He's planning a little drama."
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We had this feeling
that he's about to resign.
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I cannot be a partner to a move
that I think
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compromises the security of Israel,
tears the people apart.
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The only way that we can win
this battle, anywhere, everywhere,
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is by confronting terror
and not appeasing it.
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Appeasement doesn't work.
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A week later, Israel began
the pull-out from Gaza,
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sending in its own forces to evict
those settlers who tried to stay.
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The operation
bitterly divided Israel.
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Some soldiers even refused orders
to dismantle the settlements.
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SHOUTING
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They took our people out
and give the Arabs this building.
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Look, this beautiful area.
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I want you just to see that.
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They think that it will be peace?
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No, no peace. No peace.
With Arabs, will be no peace here.
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The final Israeli troops left Gaza
a month after the operation began.
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Israel would still police
the borders,
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tightly restrict which goods were
allowed in and out of the territory
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and place controls
on the Palestinian Authority
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re-arming its police on the ground.
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But the day-to-day running of Gaza
inside the fence
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was now officially in the hands
of the Palestinians.
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CHANTING OVER LOUDSPEAKER
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Within hours of the withdrawal,
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Hamas and other militants
were claiming it as a victory.
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Since its founding in the 1980s,
Hamas had promised to destroy Israel
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by violent resistance, reclaiming
the land they saw as Palestinian.
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Support for Hamas had grown
in both Gaza and the West Bank -
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and it would soon be
put to the test.
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Earlier that year,
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Hamas leaders had met with
12 other Palestinian factions
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and - for the first time in
their history - agreed to take part
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in elections, in return for what
they called a calming of violence.
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Leaders of Hamas
were pushing for election.
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They felt great self-confidence.
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And therefore,
they wanted the election
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because they thought that
they had a chance to win.
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Parliamentary elections
were set for January 2006.
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Abbas would remain President
whatever the outcome,
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but there would be
a new Prime Minister.
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With three months to go,
Abbas visited the White House.
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The question immediately arose,
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"You're going to have parliamentary
elections - what about Hamas?"
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Hamas, to us, was a terrorist group.
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How is it that they participate
in the elections?
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Abbas said, "Look, you say
you like free elections.
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"Who is my opposition?
It's Hamas.
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"And if I don't let them
participate in any way,
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"this is a completely
phoney election."
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I remember asking
about whether or not
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Hamas should be
allowed to participate
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if they were still armed.
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In other words, should they have
to give up their militia
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to participate in the elections,
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rather like Sinn Fein had done
with the Irish Republican Army?
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And I remember Abbas saying,
"No, if we say that,
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"they won't participate,
and then it won't be legitimate."
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Conventional wisdom was,
if Hamas showed up,
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the whole process
is going to be derailed.
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But consider how much worse
it would have been.
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If they were forced not to,
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if they were prevented from
participating, it was a nonstarter.
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The saving grace, in a sense,
in this argument -
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which Abbas also made - was,
"They're going to lose.
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"I'm going to win.
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"Maybe they get 20% of the vote."
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Not only does it show
it's a free election,
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it shows they have
a low level of support.
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And you're going to divide Hamas
because there are going to be
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some people in Hamas who are gunmen,
who are terrorists,
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and there are going to be others
who like the taste of politics.
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You will be creating a divide
in Hamas.
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The President, of course, was a big
advocate of a democracy agenda,
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of empowering people.
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And he thought that it was time
for the Palestinians to be given
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an opportunity to weigh in
on the question of their future.
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And so he felt the elections
had to go forward.
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I want to thank President Abbas
for his hard work.
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I appreciate your service,
Mr President.
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I assured him that the United States
will use our influence
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to help realise a shared vision
of two democratic states,
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Israel and Palestine, living
side by side in peace and security.
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Thank you, sir. Good job.
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The election campaign
was soon in full swing.
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Any Palestinian living in Gaza
or the West Bank,
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including East Jerusalem,
would be allowed to vote.
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Abbas's party, Fatah, was struggling
to make a real impact -
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even with American support.
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There was a disconnect
between American culture,
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political culture,
and Palestinian political culture.
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They sent us the guy who designed
the podium for President Bush.
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This was well-intentioned,
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but this was irrelevant to
the Palestinian political culture.
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No-one cared what the podium
looked like.
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I actually went to the West Bank
a week or two before the election,
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and it was really extraordinary
because, all over the place,
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there were banners
for the Hamas candidates.
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And when you looked for
Fatah banners, nope.
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Fatah placards on the wall? Nope.
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It was really quite extraordinary,
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because how does Hamas know
how to do all of this?
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They'd never been running
in free elections.
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Fatah was fielding multiple
candidates for the same district.
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Hamas was disciplined. They fielded
only one candidate everywhere.
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They had a very clear,
unified message.
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Hamas ran a masterful campaign.
I remember one of their posters,
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very powerful.
You know, "America is against Hamas.
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"Israel is against Hamas.
Who are you for?"
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And you are addressing Palestinians.
I mean, that wins you votes.
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With just weeks to go
before the elections,
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some Fatah officials
started to worry.
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They sought help
in an unlikely place.
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I was approached by a high-ranked
Palestinian official. And he said...
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.."We are in a big problem
with this election,
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"but because of the Americans
monitoring, we can't call them off.
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"The only one who can save us
from ourselves, it's you guys."
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So I said,
"What are you expecting from us?"
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He said, "The issue of
the post offices in Jerusalem."
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Palestinians in Jerusalem
had been voting in post offices.
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So all that you need
is for Sharon to say,
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"There'll be no voting
in post offices."
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Then the Palestinian Authority would
say, "We can't go ahead like this.
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"The Israelis have ruined
the election."
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So he said to the Israelis,
"This is what you have to do."
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What he said is,
"Make a public statement
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"which would be sort of provocative
and we will call off the election.
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"Everybody's happy."
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About the participation of those
who are living in East Jerusalem,
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Prime Minister Sharon
took a decision
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that those who live there
will be able to vote
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in the villages around Jerusalem,
like Abu Dis and others,
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and not in those post offices
within East Jerusalem.
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Word soon got around that Abbas was
preparing to cancel the elections.
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The American consul general was
dispatched to see the President,
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who was also known as Abu Mazen.
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I was asked by the State Department
to convey a message to Abu Mazen
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that the administration wanted
the election to go forward.
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I passed that message to him,
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and after that, there was
no further discussion
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from the Palestinian side about
postponing elections at that point.
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As election day came around,
Abbas had reason to be optimistic.
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The elections went well.
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No problems.
Everybody who wanted to vote voted.
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Polls were showing that Hamas
will not win the majority.
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Hamas will win maybe 30% to 40%,
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and Fatah will get the rest.
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Of course we are optimistic because
we have democratic elections.
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I was in Ramallah at the time.
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I woke up to a commotion outside.
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WHISTLE BLOWS, DRUMMING
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SINGING
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I turned on the TV,
and the reporters were saying
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that Hamas had won the election.
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Gathered myself,
went to the ministry,
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and there was a state of shock,
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a sense of, "OK, now what?"
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CAR HORN BEEPS
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When I went to bed, the last report
was that Fatah had won.
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So I'm a very early riser,
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and the next morning,
I was exercising
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and there was a crawl
on the morning news,
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and it said, "Hamas wins elections."
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And I thought, "Wait a minute.
I thought Fatah won the elections.
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"Why would this be the case?"
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We got to the office right away
to try to figure out what to do.
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You might think we would have
on our desk the scenarios,
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"If Hamas wins, we do this,
"and if Fatah wins, we do that,"
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but we didn't.
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Nobody had any plans
for a Hamas victory.
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Nobody believed
it was even conceivable.
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This put the United States
in an extremely difficult position.
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We were promoting
the freedom agenda,
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the importance of democracy,
the importance of elections.
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Were we now going to say that
the elections were illegitimate
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because Hamas had won them?
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I met with Abu Mazen,
and the message from Washington was,
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was there any way he could avoid
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appointing Hamas
to lead the government?
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The president told the Americans,
"You wanted us to have an election,
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"free election, democratic election,
and this is the result.
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"And now I have to accept the result
and you have to accept it too.
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"You have to pay the price with us."
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How the international community
responded to the election results
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would be determined
by a group called the Quartet.
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Established to mediate
Middle East peace talks,
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it was made up of the US, EU,
United Nations and Russia -
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which was then working with
the Americans in the War on Terror.
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Their representatives were attending
a summit on Afghanistan
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when Rice called
an emergency meeting.
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From the American point of view,
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there could be no dealing
with Hamas.
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And the argument we made was,
"We will destroy our common position
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"about fighting terrorism
if we say it's OK for Hamas
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"to be a terrorist group and be in
this government, and we'll just
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"deal with them as if they were not
holding a gun in their other hand."
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The Americans proposed
a set of principles
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for any new Palestinian government.
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They must renounce violence,
recognise Israel
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and sign up to previous
peace agreements -
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all things that Hamas would
almost certainly reject.
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The question was,
who would tell Hamas?
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Russia was the only member of
the Quartet that actually had
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a relationship with Hamas.
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And so I had to convince
Sergey Lavrov,
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the Russian Foreign Minister,
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not only that it was important
that we state these principles
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but that Russia was going to have to
carry the water in doing that.
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It did take some convincing
with Sergey,
457
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,440
but as we talked it through,
he came to recognise that
458
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,920
the Russian Federation couldn't be
on the side of violence
459
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:35,120
in the Middle East. And he did
actually carry the message to Hamas.
460
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:41,840
The Russians were saying to Hamas,
"Guys, say the magic words."
461
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,440
"Just say some formula about,
462
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560
"'Of course we want peaceful this
and peaceful that,'"
463
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,960
but Hamas was not playing ball.
464
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,560
They were remaining Hamas -
armed struggle.
465
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:18,200
The Hamas party has made it clear
466
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,840
that they do not support
the right of Israel to exist.
467
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,160
And I have made it clear,
so long as that's their policy,
468
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,600
that we will not support
a Palestinian government
469
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,680
made up of Hamas.
470
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,360
Hamas failed to endorse
the Quartet Principles,
471
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,680
failed to disavow violence
against Israel.
472
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,960
This did not sound to us
like the way to get
473
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,720
a peaceful democratic
Palestinian state.
474
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,240
This new democracy that's emerging
in the Palestinian territories
475
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,800
must understand that you can't have
a political party
476
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:59,400
that also has got a armed wing to
it, that democracies yield peace.
477
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,960
We were in a state of confusion,
but also a state of indignation.
478
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,280
We undertook this process
as you demanded,
479
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,440
at the time that you insisted
we do it,
480
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,600
and now you are rejecting it.
481
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,000
How is that democracy?
How is that rational?
482
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,400
But we were told in no uncertain
terms by the Quartet, "Nope.
483
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,280
"That outcome is not amenable
to our principles, to our vision.
484
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,920
"You either fix this
or it's a no-go."
485
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,240
Abbas invited Ismail Haniyeh,
Hamas' leader in Gaza,
486
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,600
to become Prime Minister.
487
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,760
The government he formed
would be in charge of crucial parts
488
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,640
of Palestinian life in both Gaza
and the West Bank.
489
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,400
But the Quartet Principles meant
its ministries could not directly
490
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,720
receive the international aid
on which they desperately relied.
491
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,520
The money would instead
have to go through
492
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600
the Fatah-run Presidency of Abbas
in Ramallah.
493
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Our hope really was that
Hamas would be isolated in Gaza,
494
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,160
so either Hamas would reform and
become a legitimate political party
495
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400
or it would remain isolated.
496
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,320
And the hope was that if you had
a failure in Gaza, you had a success
497
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,760
in the West Bank, Palestinian
politics would resolve this issue
498
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,520
and, in short, that Gazans
would throw off the yoke of Hamas.
499
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,360
The Western powers
500
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,880
wanted to create a split between
the President's office
501
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040
and the Prime Minister's office.
502
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,720
And the split would be total
because the President's office
503
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,600
will be receiving the money
and will be talking to the West
504
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,000
while the government,
with its health ministry
505
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,000
and economic ministry and education
ministry, would receive no money.
506
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,520
This was a disaster
for Palestinians altogether.
507
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,000
The breakdown in relations
between Hamas and Fatah was soon
508
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,080
only too evident and quickly
spilled onto the streets of Gaza.
509
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,200
With American backing, Abbas had
started training thousands
510
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,920
of new recruits to his Presidential
Guard to police the territory.
511
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,720
GUNSHOTS
512
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,200
Hamas fighters refused
to accept their authority.
513
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,960
By early 2007, dozens had died
in clashes between the two sides
514
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960
and images of Palestinians
killing Palestinians
515
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,560
were broadcast around
the Arab world.
516
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,080
The region's most powerful leader
decided to intervene.
517
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,400
The King of Saudi Arabia -
518
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,160
the custodian of Islam's
most sacred sites -
519
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,320
invited Hamas and Fatah to Mecca
to talk about reconciling.
520
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,520
The Saudis pay a lot of money
for the Palestinian Authority.
521
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Therefore, it was not only hard
to say no to them,
522
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,400
it was almost impossible.
523
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,240
The final text didn't mention
the recognition of Israel.
524
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:46,000
It simply stated that both Hamas
and Fatah would stop shedding
525
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Palestinian blood and stressed
the importance of national unity
526
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,040
to confront the Israeli occupation.
527
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,840
Back in Gaza, the divisions between
Hamas and Fatah would only deepen.
528
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Hamas was very frightened
that the Americans
529
00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:01,320
were helping Fatah to end
the presence of Hamas by force.
530
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,320
And Fatah was thinking the same,
531
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:11,080
that Hamas was going to do something
to take over Gaza.
532
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,600
So, one night, I decided to go
to see what's the situation like.
533
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640
And it was a bit shocking.
534
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:25,200
We were driving around and we saw,
on every corner of every street,
535
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:32,360
a Hamas fighter carrying his RPG
on his back, not hiding.
536
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,120
So the next day, I went to
the President and we said to him
537
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,720
that the situation is not good
and something has to happen.
538
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:45,560
GUNSHOTS
539
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,320
It was Hamas who acted first.
540
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,360
In June, its fighters caught
the Fatah security forces off-guard
541
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,680
and seized control,
542
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,480
saying that only Hamas had
the legitimacy to run Gaza.
543
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,400
Within days, Hamas had pushed
the Presidential Guard
544
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,200
out of Gaza entirely.
545
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,480
Abbas called his top advisers
to his West Bank headquarters.
546
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000
There was a very solemn meeting,
as you can imagine.
547
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,600
And, you know, by that time,
548
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,760
the feeling had set in that this
was a violent takeover of power.
549
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,800
Well, this was the
ultimate...scenario, if you want,
550
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:02,240
the ultimate split. You have
two powers, two factions
551
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:06,360
controlling the two areas of
the West Bank and Gaza.
552
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Abbas's authority
was at rock-bottom.
553
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,920
He'd come to office promising
to negotiate a two-state solution,
554
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,320
but had now lost control of
one of the Palestinian territories
555
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,320
on which that vision depended.
556
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Weeks later, he was in Egypt for
a summit with some of the region's
557
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,880
biggest players, including
Israel's new Prime Minister.
558
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,960
Abu Mazen, for all
practical purposes,
559
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,960
seemed to have been dead,
and we decided to revive him,
560
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,880
to bring him into life again.
561
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:49,240
Ehud Olmert had taken office
the previous year,
562
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,960
after Ariel Sharon
suffered a massive stroke
563
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,720
from which he would never recover.
564
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Unlike Sharon, Olmert promised
direct peace talks
565
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,880
with the Palestinians.
566
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,400
Olmert was totally different
to Sharon.
567
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:11,200
Olmert was the mayor of Jerusalem,
which had East Jerusalem within it.
568
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,600
And therefore he knew how to deal
with the Palestinians,
569
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,160
with the Arabs.
570
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,280
He knew that the predicament
of Abbas
571
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,520
was very difficult at the time.
572
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,160
And he knew that the Israelis
need peace,
573
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,120
need to finish this issue
once and for all.
574
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,400
While we were talking, one of
my assistants broke into the room
575
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,920
and said, "Prime Minister,
we need you outside."
576
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,600
I have a telephone call. The head
of the secret service calls me,
577
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,760
and he says, "There is a meeting
now taking place in Gaza
578
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,640
"with 12 of all the leaders
of Hamas."
579
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:15,840
And he said, "We have an F-16
with one-ton bomb ready,
580
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,640
"and they will all be killed.
I just need your OK."
581
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:25,960
I said, "Look, I sit right now
with President Mubarak,
582
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,600
"with King Abdullah
and with President Mahmoud Abbas."
583
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,160
"If, while we sit in Sharm
El Sheikh, the leaders of Hamas
584
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,520
"will be assassinated -
I mean, eliminated - by us,
585
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,080
"they will be implicated to have
cooperated with us
586
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,720
"in killing Palestinians
and this will be their end.
587
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:49,840
"And I'm not going to
risk my partners,
588
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,760
"even for the sake of
such...a very desired achievement.
589
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,000
"Say no."
590
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,800
Hamas' leadership in Gaza
remained intact.
591
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,040
And while Olmert and Abbas
were talking about a peace deal,
592
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,840
its fighters were building
their capabilities,
593
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,240
firing barrage after barrage
of rockets into Israel.
594
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,880
For the US President
and his Secretary of State,
595
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120
the clock was ticking.
596
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,800
Their final term in office
was coming to an end,
597
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,120
and they desperately
wanted to see a peace deal.
598
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,640
The President thought if Abbas
could work out an agreement
599
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,600
that would establish
a Palestinian state,
600
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,800
then that outcome could be taken
to the people of Gaza and say,
601
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,680
"Do you want to continue to live
under Hamas?
602
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,160
"Or do you want to join and be part
of this Palestinian state?
603
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,560
"You decide."
604
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,200
Condi was in no doubt that
we should continue to move forward
605
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,760
despite, you know, the loss of Gaza.
606
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,160
This was hers. And, after all,
she had a partner in Olmert.
607
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,880
Progress was slow.
608
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,640
After several rounds of talks,
Olmert and Abbas
609
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,240
had made little headway.
610
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,760
Rice flew to Israel to try
to move things forward.
611
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,520
I was invited to dinner
with the Prime Minister
612
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,960
and a little bit surprised
that he said to me,
613
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,680
"I want to have dinner
with you alone.
614
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,800
"I don't want anyone to be there."
615
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:41,120
There was a table, two seats,
and I started to talk.
616
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,160
The waiters came with food,
and I say, "No, no, no, no!"
617
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,800
And they went!
618
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,800
I could tell that he was
a bit nervous somehow,
619
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,720
that this was different.
620
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:57,160
And he started to say that
he believed that if we were
621
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:03,200
going to make progress, what he had
to do was to put on the table...
622
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,480
He didn't say it this way, but
it was almost Israel's final offer
623
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,720
on how we would get to
a two-state solution.
624
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:14,880
And then he began to describe
what he had in mind.
625
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,040
Olmert told Rice that he was ready
to offer Abbas a deal
626
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,280
that would see Israel withdraw
from 95% of the West Bank.
627
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,240
And he even went on to talk about
the controversial subject
628
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,160
of Jerusalem and its iconic
religious sites.
629
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,760
I said the Arab side of Jerusalem
will be part of a Palestinian state,
630
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,680
will be the capital of
a Palestinian state.
631
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,360
And then I said the Holy Basin
will not be under
632
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,040
the exclusive sovereignty of anyone.
633
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,680
And there will be
a trust of five nations -
634
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:55,200
Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Palestine,
Israel and America -
635
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,280
under the auspices of
the UN Security Council.
636
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,040
I thought, "This, in some ways,
might be the breakthrough."
637
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,640
It's easy to think of
the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
638
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,840
as a political conflict.
639
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560
But I remember my first trip
to Jerusalem
640
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,360
and looking at the Holy Sites
with that extraordinary light
641
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,400
that is only there in Jerusalem
642
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,680
and seeing that the Holy Sites
don't meet in Jerusalem,
643
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,680
they clash in Jerusalem.
644
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,480
And so this acknowledgement that
something had to be done also
645
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,800
about the religious element of
the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
646
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,120
I was very excited
because it was the first time
647
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,720
that I presented the full scale,
the whole programme.
648
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,960
And it... It erupts like a volcano
649
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,920
from my chest to her.
650
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,160
I was writing as fast as I could,
651
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,160
trying to keep up
with what I was hearing,
652
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:03,200
and he was accelerating in
his speech as he went through this.
653
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,840
And I knew that this was
a very special moment
654
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,440
and what to do about it,
what to do with it.
655
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,040
Rice went back to her hotel
to talk to her team.
656
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,720
I was amazed by the offer
657
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:22,840
because it went much further than
the Israelis had ever gone.
658
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,640
My reaction to this was,
"Wait a minute.
659
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,640
"He told Condi.
Has he told his cabinet?"
660
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,280
And I was actually fearful.
661
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:37,400
Because where are we
if Olmert proposes this to Abbas
662
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,640
and Abbas says yes
663
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,120
and the Israeli cabinet says no,
or the Knesset says no?
664
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,800
That's the end of the peace effort.
665
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,520
Before Olmert had a chance
to present his plan to Abbas,
666
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,080
he was forced to confront
a different problem.
667
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520
NEWSREADER: The Israeli
Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert,
668
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,880
has denied allegations that he took
illegal campaign contributions
669
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,040
from an American businessman.
670
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,680
The allegation, essentially,
is that he received
671
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,280
hundreds of thousands of dollars
from a Jewish-American financier
672
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,560
who is known in Israeli press
as The Laundryman.
673
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,040
As we say in Hebrew,
in Yiddish, it's a "lange maiseh" -
674
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,840
it's a long story -
675
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:27,880
because from day one of
my Prime Ministership,
676
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,680
there were investigations
conducted against me
677
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,680
by all my political rivals.
678
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,760
And I knew from the beginning
that I was, in a way,
679
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,840
playing on a borrowed time,
680
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,000
and therefore I have to hurry up and
to move forward as fast as I can.
681
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,280
After police launched
an official investigation,
682
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,360
Olmert announced he would step down
as soon as a new leader was chosen.
683
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Nevertheless, he decided to
press ahead with Abbas.
684
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:18,280
We went to this meeting.
It was the President and myself.
685
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:25,560
So after we had some time talking,
686
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,600
Olmert asked the President
to go with him to a separate room.
687
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,200
I brought this map
and I presented it to Abu Mazen.
688
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,720
This is the first time that
I exposed this map to the media.
689
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:40,480
You can see here it says,
690
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:47,000
"Annexed to Israel 4.9% of
the territory of the West Bank,"
691
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,560
and the blue stains here
are what was scheduled
692
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200
or what was planned
to be annexed to Israel.
693
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,360
The map that Olmert presented
showed Israel withdrawing
694
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,440
from the vast majority
of the West Bank.
695
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,680
It would retain
the largest settlements,
696
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,280
but the Palestinians would be given
Israeli land in return.
697
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,240
The plan would also connect Gaza
and the West Bank via a tunnel
698
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:16,160
or highway, to help re-unite
the two territories politically.
699
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,120
He said, "Prime Minister,
this is very serious.
700
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,440
"It is very, very, very serious."
701
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,080
He says, "Give me the map."
702
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,120
I said, "President, I will not
give you the map
703
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,120
"unless you sign it by initials."
704
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,160
I said, "President, I beg you.
705
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,720
"Listen, in the next 50 years,
706
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:42,400
"you will not find one Israeli
leader that will propose to you
707
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,200
"what I propose to you now. Sign it,
sign it and let's change history!"
708
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:56,200
And he said to me, you know, "I need
my map expert to go over it."
709
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,440
So I said, "OK, let's set up
a meeting tomorrow
710
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,240
"for your map expert and
my map expert." And he said, "Fine."
711
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:05,200
So we parted, you know, like
712
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,280
we are about to embark on
an historic step forward.
713
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,400
We said goodbye
and we went into the car.
714
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,240
And the President said that
Prime Minister Olmert said,
715
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:23,320
"If you agree to this,
we can sign a deal."
716
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,440
And of course we laughed
717
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,720
because it is unfortunate
that Olmert,
718
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:40,920
regardless of how nice he was, he's
a lame duck - in American terms -
719
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:46,080
and therefore
we will go nowhere with this.
720
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:52,800
Next day, they called,
721
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,680
and they said, "Well, the President
forgot that he has got to go
722
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,240
"to Amman and, you know,
we'll come back to you."
723
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,680
I've been waiting 15 years for this.
724
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,000
Nine days later,
Abbas flew to America to see Bush.
725
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,760
Mr President, welcome back.
726
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,960
The American President
hadn't given up hope
727
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,640
of making a breakthrough
before he left office.
728
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,400
His argument to Abbas was,
"Seize the opportunity
729
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,160
"and do a peace deal now."
730
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,880
If he would accept a peace deal
with the Israelis,
731
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,520
it would then give him a platform
732
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,560
to go to the people of Gaza
733
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,400
and bring Gaza and the West Bank
back together.
734
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,160
Bush's view was, "This was a time
for boldness, for leadership,
735
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,520
"a historic opportunity."
736
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,040
And unfortunately,
Abbas did not seize it.
737
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Olmert presented this map
to President Abbas
738
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,600
but told him that he cannot
take a copy.
739
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:06,600
How can you sign on the biggest deal
in the history of the Palestinians -
740
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,720
that is peace agreement
with Israel -
741
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,000
when you don't know what the map
looked like exactly,
742
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,520
and what are the conditions
surrounding the map?
743
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,000
That's not a good deal.
744
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,040
We might as well wait for
the next Prime Minister to come.
745
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,440
In four months, Bush would
leave office -
746
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,600
the latest US President
who would do so
747
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,120
without the peace deal
they'd craved.
748
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,320
Israelis, meanwhile, prepared to
go to the polls in an election
749
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,440
that would determine the course of
the peace process for years to come.
750
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:56,960
With Netanyahu, you had to lay down
a very strong line to begin with.
751
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Netanyahu said Obama said to him,
752
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,400
"You know what I do with people
who disagree with me?"
753
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,240
and then drew a finger
across his neck.
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