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Hey there.

Hey there.

You want some company?

Yes.

What do you want?

Around the world.

Around the world.

How's 200 sound?

Come on.

Okay, get in.

[ man ] : you make it sound like We're a bunch of neanderthals,

[ man ] : you make it sound like We're a bunch of neanderthals,

Squatting around a fire, afraid Of the dark.

Only now we sit in front of the Tv and let's be honest here,

Only now we sit in front of the Tv and let's be honest here,

That's where a lot of this Violence comes from in the first Place.

Oh, please. You're not really Serious.

You're not going to blame this On television--

You're not going to blame this On television--

A guy goes out there and beats Up prostitutes?

You really believe that Television doesn't influence Behavior?

I believe it does. That's why They put commercials on.

But we're not talking about what Kind of cornflakes you buy.

Ow.

Ow.

Ow, not so tight.

Oh, stop, you're hurting me.

Oh, stop, you're hurting me.

[ da vinci ]: what are you going To do about it?

Continue stick your head in the Sand,

Continue stick your head in the Sand,

Continue to ignore this problem That's in your neighborhood,

Your constituency?

I'm telling you right now-- just Trust me on this--

I'm telling you right now-- just Trust me on this--

You'll be facing a mutiny at the Polls come next election.

It's not only in my Constituency. It's a global Problem.

It's not only in my Constituency. It's a global Problem.

No, it's your constituency

30 missing women have Disappeared from, sir.

Here we go, now you're going--

There you go off on another Tangent.

There you go off on another Tangent.

Let me ask you again-- what are You going to do about it?

Are you going to blame it on bad Tv?

Listen, I feel for these women,

Listen, I feel for these women,

But they put themselves in Harm's way.

It's a lifestyle choice.

No woman who gets into a car With a total stranger

No woman who gets into a car With a total stranger

Is choosing to get herself Killed. Do you really think so?

Okay, let's forget about the Victims for a minute.

Okay, let's forget about the Victims for a minute.

Let's talk about the killers.

Whoa, hold it, whoa, hold-- wait A minute. Back it up.

- now what? - we aren't sure

- now what? - we aren't sure

That any of these women have Been murdered.

No, you're right, jack, maybe They're not missing.

Maybe they're on vacation in the Bahamas.

[ door slamming ]

Weren't there two prostitutes

Found murdered earlier this Year?

No, one was found earlier this Year--

No, one was found earlier this Year--

That was gwen marquetti--

And suzanne meyers was killed Four years ago,

And we think the same killer was Involved.

And we think the same killer was Involved.

It seems to me you're talking About protecting these women,

When isn't that what we already Pay cops to do?

Of course that's why they're There for.

Of course that's why they're There for.

But most of these girls here are Transients, drug addicts--

It's impossible to imagine the Police can keep track of it.

It's impossible to imagine the Police can keep track of it.

That tells me right away where They are,

Which is everywhere. They don't Want to be found.

Which is everywhere. They don't Want to be found.

Councilman has a point.

These women, by virtue of what They do,

Have got to be wary about Contacting police.

Have got to be wary about Contacting police.

Not when it comes to their own Safety.

At least, that's not my Perception.

What I see is the needle Exchange

Pumping out that list every week

Pumping out that list every week

Of bad tricks and the sexual Predators

And the girls themselves help to Fill that out.

If the police had more Resources, they could be Helping.

If the police had more Resources, they could be Helping.

They could be at the very least Collating this information

And trying to identify these Guys, but that's not what's Happening.

And trying to identify these Guys, but that's not what's Happening.

[ police radio chatters ñ

Excuse me.

Can I ask what you're doing down Here?

Fixing a flat tire.

[ banging ]

[ banging ]

What's that in the back?

My dog.

You been drinking tonight, sir?

No, sir, I--I was working late.

I'm just on my way home.

[ banging intensifies ]

I'm going to need to see inside The back here.

Put the tire iron down.

Sir, I'm going to have to ask You to put that down

Sir, I'm going to have to ask You to put that down

- and step away from the truck. - [ cop #2 ] : what's going on?

Open the tailgate.

You, put your hands behind your Neck and lace your fingers.

I'm gonna tell you one more Time.

I'm gonna tell you one more Time.

[ coughing ]

I thought I was going to die.

How much would a red-light District cost?

Well, a few less lives, for a Start.

Next, you'll be organizing a Hookers' union

Next, you'll be organizing a Hookers' union

And asking the taxpayers

To give these girls a little Hazard pay.

That's the most brilliant thing I think I've ever heard you say.

That's the most brilliant thing I think I've ever heard you say.

I wanna write that down.

You okay?

Give me a cigarette.

This would be a good time to Take a break.

We're talking to city coroner Dominic da vinci

And councilman jack pearce

About prostitution in the city Of vancouver.

We'll be back with your calls After this.

We'll be back with your calls After this.

Well, let's see how you lit up The board.

Jeez, I've got to take this. Can I go in there?

- sure. - excuse me.

The woman's name is ginger Smith.

She got shook up pretty bad, but She's okay.

She got shook up pretty bad, but She's okay.

She got lucky.

I got an I.D.On the guy who Grabbed her-- his name is larry Williams.

She says she's pretty sure he Was going to kill her.

She says she's pretty sure he Was going to kill her.

[ da vinci ] : is that how it Sounds to you?

That was his plan.

He made no attempt to disguise Himself--

The mouth was gagged, the way She was tied up,

Him beating on her--

I think this is more than a sex Crime.

Is that right? Did you call Homicide?

Yeah, williams is on his way There right now.

Okay, well, if it's what you Think it is,

Maybe we should get a Pathologist

To take a look at these Injuries. What do you think?

To take a look at these Injuries. What do you think?

Um, I think she'll be willing to Cooperate.

Okay and thanks for the call, Bobby.

One of the neighborhood kids was Playing road hockey,

Found him here behind the wheel.

Found him here behind the wheel.

Could be he had a heart attack,

But he looks healthy as a Horse--

Except for this burn on his Hand.

Except for this burn on his Hand.

Yeah--sleeve and his hand there. What the hell is that?

Look like electrical burns to Me.

Well, the keys are still in the Ignition,

Well, the keys are still in the Ignition,

So he didn't fry himself Hot-wiring the car.

It's pretty hard to get Electrocuted hot-wiring a car.

It's pretty hard to get Electrocuted hot-wiring a car.

Oh yeah? You never got a shock From your car battery?

That'll tighten your shorts, Believe me.

Yeah, but it's not enough to Kill...

Unless you've got a weak heart.

You got a line on the guy yet?

No. No wallet,

No. No wallet,

But the car's registered to a David creeker,

Marpole address.

Maybe he got struck by Lightning.

Maybe he got struck by Lightning.

What's that phenomenon, you Know,

Where you suddenly burst into Flames?

What, spontaneous combustion?

Yeah. Yeah, that's it.

I thought it was a fancier name Than that for it, but...

So the guy's changing a flat.

A couple of uniforms spot him. They go to check it out.

They find a woman in the back of His truck,

They find a woman in the back of His truck,

All bound up, gagged and beaten Up pretty--

At sounds like.Ide,

The attacker's larry williams.

They're bringing him in to Interview.

Maybe we should have a look at Him for the missing prostitutes.

What kind of car was he driving?

What kind of car was he driving?

A pickup, registered in his own Name.

We impounded it and we're Sending it over to the forensics Garage.

We impounded it and we're Sending it over to the forensics Garage.

Well, that don't sound right, Guy driving his own car like That.

Yeah. What about prints?

We got prints off the bodies of Marquetti and meyers.

We got prints off the bodies of Marquetti and meyers.

Ident's looking for a match Against williams right now.

Hey, is williams in the system?

He's got no record,

But a guy doesn't just start out One day

Picking up hookers with ropes And tape and a gag in his car.

No, that takes some planning.

No, that takes some planning.

I think he could have been doing This before.

I understand we have a suspect Who looks pretty good

For an attempted homicide on a Working girl.

For an attempted homicide on a Working girl.

Seems like it.

All right

I want you all to clear your Desks

And make this a priority.

Now, mick, I want you working

With detective marlow from sex Crimes, all right?

Angela, contact da vinci.

Angela, contact da vinci.

See if he's been able to draft a Pathologist to examine the Victim.

Now leo, how's your slate?

Now leo, how's your slate?

I've got this electrocution Thing--

A guy got zapped. It looks Pretty dubious.

Okay, well, try to wrap that up.

Give us a hand on this one, will You?

This is the closest thing we've Got

To a hot lead on these Disappearances.

I don't want this to grow cold.

I don't want this to grow cold.

I don't know if detective kosmo Explained this to you,

But the reason you're here,

Why the coroner's office and Also homicide is interested in This

Why the coroner's office and Also homicide is interested in This

Is because we've had--

Well, a lot of missing women

Well, a lot of missing women

And possibly some murders Recently.

I understand. I knew a couple of Those disappeared girls.

I understand. I knew a couple of Those disappeared girls.

So afterwards... If it's all Right with you,

We'd like to take you down to See one of our pathologists

We'd like to take you down to See one of our pathologists

And let her take a look at your Injuries,

And see if they match up with Anything we're dealing with.

Sure, no problem.

Thanks.

Now, you told detective marlow

Now, you told detective marlow

That you thought your life was In danger.

Oh, yeah.

He was going to kill me.

Okay, so he picked you up.

Okay, so he picked you up.

Anything different about that?

No, he... He seemed married, Normal.

No, he... He seemed married, Normal.

[ da vinci ] : so what did he Want?

Around the world.

And then later, when I was in His truck,

He said he wanted a special to Go with that.

Special? What kind of special Did he want?

Special? What kind of special Did he want?

He wanted it a little rough, he Said.

Did it seem to you that he'd Done this before?

Oh, yeah.

This was not his first time.

It was my first time.

You can believe that or not-- I Don't care.

So we go down to the stroll and Show your picture around,

Not one of these women is going To recognize you, then, right?

Right. Go ahead.

All right, let's just say it's Your first time.

All of a sudden, you decide just Like that one day

You're going to kidnap one of Them?

Oh, no, I didn't kidnap her.

Oh, so she just sort of ended up

Oh, so she just sort of ended up

In your truck in the back all by Herself

With her hands and ankles tied

With her hands and ankles tied

With an indoor court ball stuck In her mouth?

Right. That's what I paid her For.

Right. That's what I paid her For.

- you paid her for that? - yeah.

I just talked to her. That's not What she told me.

Huh.

Well, I guess it's her word Against mine, then.

Okay, so he ties you up

With your permission.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But tight and I didn't like it Like that.

But I didn't say anything right There,

Because, like I said, he was Paying for it a little rough.

I'm not exactly a spring Chicken.

I'm not exactly a spring Chicken.

I've got to take what comes Along.

Okay.

So what happens next?

Uh, let's see...

I tied up her feet.

I tied up her feet.

You always keep rope in your Car?

Yeah, it's for my boat.

And where do you keep your boat?

At my house.

Okay, go on. Then what?

I was ready to...

Do it to her.

It's not working, so he starts To hit me.

Was that part of the agreement?

Did he pay for that too?

Did he pay for that too?

Yeah...

But not on the face, like he was Doing.

On the body, okay, I've done That before.

On the body, okay, I've done That before.

So I told her to fight me,

Because it gets guys aroused, You know.

Because it gets guys aroused, You know.

And then...

And then she's hitting me.

I fought with him a little.

And he starts hitting me harder, So I was getting scared,

And he starts hitting me harder, So I was getting scared,

So I told him, to stop it.

But the more scared I got,

But the more scared I got,

The more he just kept on hitting Me.

He was getting off on it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then she hits me in the Groin area.

Really, really hard.

Really, really hard.

So I screamed, and then...

He kicked me in the side,

He kicked me in the side,

And then...

He shoved that damn ball in my Mouth.

He shoved that damn ball in my Mouth.

And then maybe I punched her. I Don't know.

If I did, it wasn't very hard.

If I did, it wasn't very hard.

And then nothing.

Had the flat tire, and then...

You guys came along.

You guys came along.

And then he says, "You little Bitch.

I'm going to cut you up into Pieces

I'm going to cut you up into Pieces

And feed you to the rats and the Ravens."

The way we see this is you've Done this before.

You had the rope. You had the Ball.

You had the rope. You had the Ball.

You had the whole thing planned Out in your mind.

You need help, larry.

The best thing you can do is Tell us all about it,

All the times you've done this Before,

All the times you've done this Before,

And we can get you that help.

You're right.

I think you're absolutely right.

I want to see a lawyer.

I want to see a lawyer.

This is where he tied you up With the rope?

This is where he tied you up With the rope?

Uh-huh.

Did he tie up your hands first Or your feet-- do you remember?

Did he tie up your hands first Or your feet-- do you remember?

Hands, I think.

Did he hit you at all?

On the head.

On the head.

On the side of the head here.

I see.

There's some bruising on the Temple there.

Did he strike you with an Object?

His fist.

Both fists?

Yes.

Did he strike you anywhere else?

My --, my legs, pretty much all Over.

Could you stand and open your Gown?

I'd just like to take a couple More photographs, if you don't Mind.

I'd just like to take a couple More photographs, if you don't Mind.

And the back, if you could.

This is where we all end up one Day, huh?

Any luck matching up the Injuries

Any luck matching up the Injuries

With marquetti and meyers, with These?

[ kosmo ]: gwen marquetti had Patterned bruising

[ kosmo ]: gwen marquetti had Patterned bruising

And so did suzanne meyers,

But that doesn't necessarily Mean there's any connection to Williams.

Also, in the two autopsies, Pathology found cotton batting

Also, in the two autopsies, Pathology found cotton batting

Shoved in the back of their Throats.

While this one was gagged with a Racquetball then taped shut.

Could be a connection.

Could be a new twist the guy's Got.

Have we got dna on file from Both marquetti and meyers?

Have we got dna on file from Both marquetti and meyers?

[ kosmo] : mm-hmm.

So if we get a sample from Williams, we can look for a Match-up then.

It's so sad. She's probably Right back out there working her Corner.

That's reality.

Yeah, the guy lived alone in a Basement suite--

Pretty cheap rent--

And he worked part-time as a Handyman.

Handyman, huh?

Yeah, you know, odd jobs-- Plumbing, carpentry.

Yeah, you know, odd jobs-- Plumbing, carpentry.

- afternoon, gentlemen. - good Afternoon.

Cause of death is electric shock To the system

Cause of death is electric shock To the system

Causing cardiac arrhythmia to The heart.

He was electrocuted.

This is where the voltage Entered his body.

This is where the voltage Entered his body.

By the degree of burns, it Suggests a pretty high voltage.

Must have grabbed onto a live Wire or something, huh?

Must have grabbed onto a live Wire or something, huh?

Any number of things, I suppose.

Oh, and...

Oh, and...

See these pinpoint burns that Horseshoe his heel, there?

Those are from the nails in his Shoe

Where his body completed the Circuit.

The soles were made of leather.

Any chance he got a hit of the Juice and then climbed into his Car?

Any chance he got a hit of the Juice and then climbed into his Car?

No, no. This guy dropped where He stood.

So he was fixing something,

So he was fixing something,

He gets a hit of heavy volts

- and drops dead. - hmm-mm.

Anybody who gets hit with that Much juice

Has got to blow some fuses Somewhere.

I've got his phone book. I've Got to start making some phone Calls,

See if I can find where he was Working that day.

See if I can find where he was Working that day.

Thank you.

Winston.

All right, so the crown is Charging williams with sexual Assault,

All right, so the crown is Charging williams with sexual Assault,

But his lawyer is refusing to Give up a dna sample.

He says there's no cause because It was all consensual.

He says there's no cause because It was all consensual.

Oh, --.

You know, unless we get some More compelling evidence,

His lawyer's going to tie that Up for months.

Okay...

Get ahold of the bad trick list From sex crimes for the past 12 Months.

Get ahold of the bad trick list From sex crimes for the past 12 Months.

Go over that with a comb. See if Williams is on there.

Now, if we can show a pattern of Sexual assault,

The crown can argue that he's a Danger to public safety-- yeah?

I just got the call from ident.

The prints we got from williams Don't match

The prints they found on the Bodies of marquetti and meyers.

All right, well, that doesn't Mean this guy isn't involved.

What about the rope he used to Bind ginger with-- anything There?

Chick says the yellow polypro

That was used on marquetti and Meyers is the same,

That was used on marquetti and Meyers is the same,

But from a different batch than The one used on ginger.

Okay.

Okay.

Mick, I want you to take bob Marlow,

Get a warrant on the sexual Assault charge

And get over to williams' house Asap.

And get over to williams' house Asap.

If the judge gives you any grief About it, have him give me a Call.

Okay.

[ mick ] : your husband have any Camping gear?

[ mick ] : your husband have any Camping gear?

You could check in the spare Room. I don't go in there.

I want to thank you for your Cooperation,

All right?

You people have the wrong man.

Larry's not like that.

Racquetballs.

Well, there's a little Something.

Well, there's a little Something.

Let's go take a look at that Boat.

Let's go take a look at that Boat.

Yeah.

[ cell phone ringing ]

Bob marlow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thanks.

There we go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Williams just made bail.

Man, you've got a dozen pros a Night getting beat up.

How come they don't report that To us?

How come they don't report that To us?

My guess is it cuts into the Working day.

It's easier to put them on the Trick list.

You got anybody in there that Fits williams' description?

You got anybody in there that Fits williams' description?

Pretty generic descriptions, for The most part.

I've got a couple here that are Close.

I've got a couple here that are Close.

White male, 40s, 5'8", Businessman. Bondage.

White male, 40s, 5'8", Businessman. Bondage.

Refuses to pay, beats victim and Dumps her out of the car.

The woman who reported one of Those is coming down to talk to Me.

The woman who reported one of Those is coming down to talk to Me.

It should be any time now.

Hey, leo.

You got something for me?

Yep.

Yep.

About the popped fuses... - Follow- yeah?Your idea

You know that neighborhood where We found the body?

Turns out they had a blackout The night before we found him.

Turns out they had a blackout The night before we found him.

Where was that?

A couple of square blocks Between victoria and clark,

12th to broadway.

Detective, this woman here says She has an appointment with you.

Yeah, great. We'll do it in Interview. Excuse me, gentlemen.

Yeah, I've got his phone book Here.

I think he was working about Three jobs that day,

Somewhere in here, let's see...

There we go. 2874 east 10th Street.

- that's the neighborhood. - Yeah?

So you just remember, you want To stay with your family,

So you just remember, you want To stay with your family,

Then you will abide by the Judge's restrictions.

That means no hookers.

I mean it, you don't come within 50 miles of a hooker--

No phone sex, no going to strip Bars, nothing.

You want to get off, use your Imagination.

One other thing-- I've got an Appointment made for you to see A psychiatrist.

One other thing-- I've got an Appointment made for you to see A psychiatrist.

I don't need a shrink.

Right, but when we go into Court,

I want to be able to hand the Judge

A nice, rosy, first-class Evaluation of you

As a red-blooded, healthy male

As a red-blooded, healthy male

With a normal to maybe a bit Above normal sex drive.

Okay, understand?

That's good, that's good, I Understand.

That's good, that's good, I Understand.

And don't lie to him, because He'll know it.

And then he won't give us any Kind of a report at all.

So are we clear on this?

So are we clear on this?

You are going to abide by the Judge's restrictions

And you're going to go see the Psychiatrist.

Okay, okay, we're clear.

Okay, okay, we're clear.

Good. Because believe me,

You don't want to be stuck in a Holding cell

Waiting for your trial accused Of a sex crime.

That's not a fun time.

Just tell me why you needed to Do this.

Just tell me why you needed to Do this.

[ scoffs ]

Honey... It was a mistake.

Just one time.

Then why were the police here, Going over everything?

Because they need to put the Blame on somebody

And I was in the wrong place at The wrong time.

Honey...

Honey...

There's nothing wrong with me.

What'd you say to them?

- I said they had the wrong man. - well, they do.

When we make love, do you think Of someone else?

For --'s sake...

Everybody has fantasies.

I can't go anywhere in this House

I can't go anywhere in this House

Without stumbling over a stack Of your romance novels.

But they're just stories.

But they're just stories.

There you go-- you see, you just Answered your own question.

I can't stand around here all Day. I don't have time for this.

I can't stand around here all Day. I don't have time for this.

Come on.

Give me a little smile.

That's my girl.

[ leo ] : landlord said he sent The handyman over here

[ leo ] : landlord said he sent The handyman over here

To clean out the furnace.

The house key should be on that Key ring there.

Yeah, it looks like it's one of These two.

Yeah, it looks like it's one of These two.

Here, let me try this one.

Jeez.

Smells like a skunk or something Died in here.

Smells like a skunk or something Died in here.

There's the furnace.

Here's the guy's tool kit.

Here's the guy's tool kit.

I don't know of any handyman who Leaves his tools behind on the Job.

Doesn't look like he had a Chance to change the filter.

Doesn't look like he had a Chance to change the filter.

There's the new one right there.

See anything around here that Would have killed him?

Any one of these power cables Could have done it.

Any one of these power cables Could have done it.

Yeah? Well, if he dropped here,

How did his body get to a car Three blocks away?

Somebody must have moved him.

Yeah... Maybe patricia was wrong For once.

Maybe he got zapped here, but he Didn't drop.

Maybe he got zapped here, but he Didn't drop.

What are you trying to say-- the Guy got up

- staggered outside and put Himself behind the wheel? - hey, No, I've heard that.

- staggered outside and put Himself behind the wheel? - hey, No, I've heard that.

If you get a zap,

Your brain has to complete its Last thought, like a computer.

I never heard that.

I never heard that.

So I'm thinking the guy was Thinking, maybe,

"I've got to go back to the car And get something,"

And then he gets hit and then he Goes back to the car.

And then he gets hit and then he Goes back to the car.

- excuse me. - jeez!

Vancouver police. What are you Doing?

Um, I was... What are you guys Doing?

I asked you first.

I was just looking for my Lawnmower.

Oh, you live here?

No, no, they borrowed my Lawnmower

No, no, they borrowed my Lawnmower

And I was just coming to get it Back.

Your lawnmower's in that room?

No, no.

No, no.

Yeah, I don't know where it is, That's weird, I should probably Go--

You stay right there. We'll get Your lawnmower for you.

You stay right there. We'll get Your lawnmower for you.

Oh, great.

[ whistling ] Holy --!

What's that?

I can see why you needed your Lawnmower, man.

Grass is getting kind of high in Here.

Grass is getting kind of high in Here.

Got a couple kilos of good, High-grade ganja in here, that's For sure.

We've got a real burn mark on The door jamb here.

Oh, here we go.

Live power line running all the Way down

Live power line running all the Way down

And around to the handle.

Booby trap.

How does that work?

How does that work?

You grab onto the door handle There,

You get hit with some juice.

You're standing on a metal Plate.

That completes the circuit.

That completes the circuit.

Don't worry--

Probably broke the circuit when The handyman got dropped.

Probably broke the circuit when The handyman got dropped.

How old were you when you first Started to fantasize about sex?

Oh... 11, maybe 12.

Oh... 11, maybe 12.

Okay. Did you use anything to Help your fantasy?

Yeah, detective magazines, that Kind of thing.

Other people I've seen in your Situation

Often started having aggressive Thoughts at that age.

Often started having aggressive Thoughts at that age.

Did you have aggressive Thoughts?

Ahh...

I used to see girls tied up...

And I was doing what I wanted With them...

And they couldn't...

And they couldn't...

Say...

Anything.

Anything.

When you picked up that Prostitute the other day,

Did you fantasize about that?

Obviously, yeah.

How did you see it taking place?

How did you see it taking place?

Uh, well, first, I...

I always get the girl in my car

I always get the girl in my car

And then I ask her

To let me tie her up.

And is she willing?

Yeah, she lets me tie up her Hands and feet.

She trusts me.

Let me ask you,

Let me ask you,

Do you at any point think about The girl's feelings?

[ chuckles ]

[ chuckles ]

She's a prostitute. That's what I'm paying her for.

Okay, what happens after you Have her tied up?

Okay, what happens after you Have her tied up?

She's fighting me,

She's fighting me,

And then I put rope around her Neck

And I pull it tight...

And I pull it tight...

And she's really scared

And she's really scared

And...

That's the part I'm waiting for.

That's the part I'm waiting for.

And then what do you do?

Nothing.

Nothing.

It's over at that point.

Okay.

Okay.

So the other day,

You decided to act out your Fantasy...

Yeah.

And you prepared carefully for It and you thought it through.

Not good enough, I didn't get to Finish it.

Not good enough, I didn't get to Finish it.

Other than not finishing it,

Was what you did better than Your fantasy?

Well, she was scared, so... Yeah.

Well, she was scared, so... Yeah.

You didn't wrap the rope around Her neck, didn't get that far.

Nope.

Do you feel you failed?

Yeah, I...

Yeah, I...

I... Needed to do that part

I... Needed to do that part

To feel I'd done everything Right.

Okay.

Let me ask you, larry,

Were you ever worried about Getting out of control

And not stopping while you were Choking her?

And not stopping while you were Choking her?

Oh, no, no, no, no. I'd never Let that happen.

What did you think you'd feel When you were finished with her?

I don't know.

I just knew...

It'd change me in some way.

It'd change me in some way.

[ knocking ]

Hey, you've got a minute?

Yeah, sure, what's up?

Yeah, sure, what's up?

I... I don't know if you heard,

But larry williams is out on Bail.

But larry williams is out on Bail.

Yeah, well, no big surprise There.

No big surprise-- pretty big Disappointment.

I think the guy's dangerous.

Well, I'd agree with that,

But he'll have heavy Restrictions on his release.

The best we can do right now, I Suppose, is keep an eye on him.

Well, that's what we're doing.

Apparently, his lawyer sent him To see a psychiatrist.

Well, he would do that, because He needs a good report for his Hearing.

Do you know mark kinneson?

Do you know mark kinneson?

Of course, I know doctor Kinneson.

This guy's a top forensic shrink In the business.

He even writes books.

He even writes books.

I'll tell you right now, okay,

If this guy's wrapped up wrong,

Kinneson'll catch it. It'll be In his report 100%.

This guy is "Wrapped wrong."

We don't need a psychiatrist to Discover that.

Okay.

It's kind of late. What are you Asking me here?

If we knew what dr. Kinneson Discovered

If we knew what dr. Kinneson Discovered

In his interview with williams, It'd be good.

We need somebody to finesse That.

You're going to hear his report At the hearing.

You're going to hear his report At the hearing.

Yeah, we're going to hear it if It's a good report.

If not, williams' lawyer will Bury it.

There is no way in the world--

There is no way in the world--

There is no way dr. Kinneson is Going to talk to me.

Look, laws change. He's got a Door.

Look, laws change. He's got a Door.

If he's concerned that williams Is dangerous

And has a reasonable expectation

That there's potential of injury Being done

That there's potential of injury Being done

To an identifiable group--

In this case, prostitutes--

Legally, he can come forward.

Legally, he can come forward.

Look, we need to know if this is The guy.

Frankly, I don't know what else To do.

Frankly, I don't know what else To do.

Okay, I'll talk to him.

All right. I'll owe you one.

Yeah, you will.

Yeah, you will.

Robbie, you are in some very Serious trouble.

Robbie, you are in some very Serious trouble.

You're facing a murder charge, Son.

I didn't kill anybody.

I mean, I mean, take a look at Me.

Do I look like a killer?

I'm afraid of my own girlfriend.

I'm afraid of my own girlfriend.

Come on, let's get real.

The dope garden in that house Was booby-trapped

With a live wire that toasted a Handyman.

With a live wire that toasted a Handyman.

Yeah, but I don't know anything About that.

I mean, I don't even live there.

Well, who does live there?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Well, in the absence of any Other suspects,

You being in the house and you Knowing your way around, you've Got a key,

I've got to believe that you're The gardener

I've got to believe that you're The gardener

And that you're the one that Laid out the booby trap.

Th- not so good.U?

Th- not so good.U?

Yeah, well, it clears my books,

So unless you've got something To say to me,

I'm going to the crown with you As my prime suspect.

I'm going to the crown with you As my prime suspect.

Now, you wanna make a statement?

Yeah, okay. I knew about the pot And I was going to rip it off.

You've done this before.

You've done this before.

Yep.

Last time, I took about 40, 50 Buds.

Did it ever occur to you

Did it ever occur to you

That you're the guy these people Were trying to kill?

Yeah.

Yeah, looks that way.

Well, okay, who are they?

Man, they tried to electrocute Me for stealing a few buds.

Man, they tried to electrocute Me for stealing a few buds.

You can imagine what they're Going to do if they find out I'm A rat.

Robbie, these people tried to Kill you.

What are you, trying to live by Some stupid code?

What are you, trying to live by Some stupid code?

Come on.

Give me the name of the guy who Runs the house and where I can Find him

Give me the name of the guy who Runs the house and where I can Find him

And you and your girlfriend can Go and live in a little house on The prairie

And grow as much weed as you Want.

And grow as much weed as you Want.

His name is mike

And he runs a few grow houses And he lives in the west end.

And he runs a few grow houses And he lives in the west end.

Okay. Now, here's what we're Going to do.

We're going to go over there to His house

We're going to go over there to His house

And you are going to identify Him for me.

How does that sound?

All I've got to do is identify Him?

All I've got to do is identify Him?

I'll do the rest.

[ m who is it?] :

It's robbie.

- hey, robbie. - hey, mike.

I'm assuming that's the guy.

I'm assuming that's the guy.

That's the guy.

- oh, I spoke to the shrink. - Uh-huh?

He didn't really appreciate the Call.

He didn't really appreciate the Call.

He was hired by williams' Lawyer.

What he says, he feels bound by Lawyer-client privilege.

What he says, he feels bound by Lawyer-client privilege.

It's not the case.

It doesn't matter. He doesn't Care, he's not gonna talk to us.

I've got no leads off the bad Trick list--

Lot of similars, lot of guys Wanting it rough,

But nothing solid.

And williams' lawyer still won't Let him give us dna sample.

All right, uh... Chick get Anywhere with the truck?

He's got a team pulling it apart Piece by piece.

So far, all they've got is a Couple of hair samples.

That's dna right there from Somebody.

That's dna right there from Somebody.

Yeah, what have we got

In terms of dna samples for the Missing prostitutes?

- well, we've got nothing. - Nothing?

Let's start getting samples from Some of the families, then.

Okay. Anything else?

Okay. Anything else?

Go for the wife.

[ paper rustling ]

Honey, did you get my white Shirt ironed yet?

Honey, did you get my white Shirt ironed yet?

I'll wear that one.

Sure you don't want me to iron It? Just take two seconds.

Sure you don't want me to iron It? Just take two seconds.

Nah, nobody'll notice.

Honey, I'm...

I need all your support right Now.

I need all your support right Now.

You know that.

You know that.

I know.

I don't understand what I'm Doing here.

We just want to show you Something. It won't take long.

We just want to show you Something. It won't take long.

Oh, --.

Is this the prostitute?

Is this the prostitute?

Yes.

My husband couldn't.

My husband couldn't.

He couldn't have done this.

We caught your husband with this Woman.

We caught your husband with this Woman.

She was bound with rope and Gagged with this.

You recognize that?

You recognize that?

We found another one just like It in your closet.

A lot of people play Racquetball.

A lot of people play Racquetball.

We've got no reason to lie to You here.

Of course you do.

You've made larry a scapegoat.

You've made larry a scapegoat.

You're trying to ruin his life, My life.

What your husband has done is Not your fault. You're not to Blame.

What your husband has done is Not your fault. You're not to Blame.

I'm sorry, I can't help you.

We think you can.

We think you can.

We'd like you to look back--

Just think, try to remember any Time at all,

Just think, try to remember any Time at all,

Did your husband act different, Lie to you?

No. Never.

No. Never.

What he did takes a great deal Of planning.

You must have noticed something.

No.

How about in the bedroom? Any Problems there?

Maybe while you were making Love-- did he ever get a little Angry?

Maybe went too far?

Do I have to talk in front of Him?

Do I have to talk in front of Him?

You were saying?

You were saying?

Larry's very gentle when we make Love.

Who usually initiates sex Between you?

Who usually initiates sex Between you?

I do.

He's not...

He has a lower sex drive, the Doctor says.

Hmm... So he saw a doctor about It?

Yes.

Yes.

Do you know the name of this Doctor?

He just-- he said he saw a Doctor,

And he had low testosterone.

Did you hear that from the Doctor or did larry tell you That?

I'm not going to start following Him around,

I'm not going to start following Him around,

Questioning everything he does.

I couldn't live like that.

Mrs. Williams,

Mrs. Williams,

Now, you've probably read in the Paper

That there are a number of Prostitutes missing in this City.

That there are a number of Prostitutes missing in this City.

You can't think...

Oh, that's crazy.

Now, you know something's wrong With larry

Now, you know something's wrong With larry

And it's been wrong for a long Time.

You've been denying it to Yourself--

You've been denying it to Yourself--

That's natural, because you're Scared and you should be,

Because you know in your heart Something is wrong.

Because you know in your heart Something is wrong.

You know it.

I'm leaving now.

When did he first exhibit a loss Of interest in you sexually?

When did he first exhibit a loss Of interest in you sexually?

Can I leave now?

Of course.

Of course.

When I tell my husband about This,

He's going to call his lawyer And then we'll see who's wrong Here.

That's fine, you can do that.

But I'd like to caution you--

This woman here-- take another Look.

This woman here-- take another Look.

She told us that your husband Threatened to kill her,

So before you go, I'd like to Offer you protection. Here's my Card.

So before you go, I'd like to Offer you protection. Here's my Card.

If you feel you need it, just Pick up the phone.

I don't need protection.

I don't need protection.

Larry does... From you.

[ dr. Kinneson ] : bail Restrictionsur

That there are certain areas of The city that you can't Frequent--

That there are certain areas of The city that you can't Frequent--

Strip clubs, any place you might Meet prostitutes.

Right.

Does it make you nervous having Your freedom restricted like That?

Does it make you nervous having Your freedom restricted like That?

[ hyperventilating ] I can't Sleep, I...

I lay awake all night,

And I can't concentrate.

- has it affected your fantasy? - yes.

I'm sorry, I...

I'm just-- I'm just frustrated.

I'm just-- I'm just frustrated.

I'm angry, very angry.

Have those feelings affected Your fantasy?

[ panting ] I can't... Complete It.

What if the police weren't Standing in your way? What would You do?

I don't know, I...

I don't know, I...

Plan better, anticipate Mistakes.

Then what?

Then what?

Whatever I want.

But the police won't let you do That.

They won't know.

They won't know.

Why not?

They're not that smart.

They caught you the last time.

They got lucky.

If you complete the fantasy, What happens?

If you complete the fantasy, What happens?

I look down on them.

- you're in control. - yes.

- you're in control. - yes.

You outs- no.D them.

Because I'm changed

And they can see that.

And they can see that.

Who sees?

The women.

In your fantasy?

In your fantasy?

In their eyes,

They see it.

They see it.

In your fantasy.

No.

No.

I'm doing it to them.

You're doing it to them.

You've done this before.

Am I going to get a good report?

I'm not going to get a good Report?

It's not up to me...

But I would like to see you Again.

I make my living doing this,

And if my clients and patients Can't feel

They have my complete Discretion, I'm out of work

And I can't help those who can Use my expertise.

No, no, no, no. I totally Understand here, okay?

Whatever happens here is between Us, strictly confidential.

Well... I did two interviews With williams.

Well... I did two interviews With williams.

The first interview, I thought I Was looking at a classic case of Perihelia,

Specifically, sexual sadism.

Specifically, sexual sadism.

Williams had to inflict physical Or psychological suffering on The sex partner

In order to stimulate excitement And orgasm.

Which he did-- he threatened Her, he beat her.

Right. In that first interview,

Right. In that first interview,

He said that he fantasized about Hurting someone

Beyond what he'd done with the Woman he was caught with.

Okay, I asked before. You were Reluctant to talk to me.

Why the change?

At that point, I thought he was Testing the limits of his Fantasy,

At that point, I thought he was Testing the limits of his Fantasy,

Seeing how far he could go.

And you don't think that Anymore?

No. I think he's already gone Far beyond that.

No. I think he's already gone Far beyond that.

To what? To kill somebody?

I think so.

And I think he's preparing to Attempt it again.

And I think he's preparing to Attempt it again.

Where are you going?

Where are you going?

Can't sleep.