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[ theme music playing ]

Get the keys. Let's go.

Let's go.

Let's go.

What happened?

- oh, god. - [ man ]: let's go, Go, go.

- oh, god. - [ man ]: let's go, Go, go.

[ police radio chatter ]

[ siren blaring ]

Morning, winston.

Morning, winston.

Morning.

- what have we got? - two shots,

Small caliber, to the head.

Workers renovating this Warehouse

Workers renovating this Warehouse

Found him when they showed up This morning.

Man's name is robert symes,

33 years old, organ donor.

Good-looking girlfriend.

Got about 80 bucks in here-- oh, A couple of flaps of dope.

Well, wasn't robbery. Maybe he Was a dealer.

No blood splatter from the Gunshots,

But I got a tire tread through Some of his blood,

But I got a tire tread through Some of his blood,

So maybe he was shot in a car And dumped out.

I'll canvass the neighborhood.

I'll start with this warehouse Here.

Hang on. Guy's got a cell phone On him.

Hang on. Guy's got a cell phone On him.

- [ laughs ] Who'd he call last? - [ beeps ]

11 missed calls-- few of them Stored numbers.

11 missed calls-- few of them Stored numbers.

Two calls from lou, six calls From ed.

Lou and ed.

Lou and ed.

Another industrial accident

In the dope trade.

St. Luke's called. They've got a Three-year-old boy who came in Doa.

St. Luke's called. They've got a Three-year-old boy who came in Doa.

- what? - they've requested to Do the autopsy

With their pathologist over There.

Three-year-old boy? What are the Circumstances?

The doctor thinks he died of a Fall.

This is the preliminary report.

Well, this says that there was a Closed head injury.

That's consistent with a fall, Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay. What you do is you call That doctor there

And tell him that I'm good with Him continuing chain of care Over there.

And tell him that I'm good with Him continuing chain of care Over there.

If the autopsy is clean, they go Ahead, they release the body to The parents.

I'll get the coroner's liaison To send a uniform over there

And talk to the parents.

Do we need a sudden death Report?

- yes. - where is it?

- yes. - where is it?

You're doing that.

I was downstairs in the office When I heard julie screaming--

I was downstairs in the office When I heard julie screaming--

- that's my daughter. - and you Think he fell from the swings There?

He was only out of my sight for A few minutes.

He was only out of my sight for A few minutes.

- and you say your daughter Found him? - yes. She's eight.

I'd like to talk to her.

Uh, she's sleeping right now--

Uh, she's sleeping right now--

I'm sorry, but I'll need to talk To her.

All right. I'll wake her.

So what happened when you came Outside?

So what happened when you came Outside?

Well, I ran out and--

And terry wasn't breathing.

And terry wasn't breathing.

You tried to revive him?

Yeah. Yeah, I...

I gave him mouth to mouth.

And then claire, my wife, came Out,

And all we could think of doing Was getting him to the hospital.

And all we could think of doing Was getting him to the hospital.

Oh, gee.

I still can't believe it.

It's like somebody kicked me in The stomach.

It's like somebody kicked me in The stomach.

So, ed,

- do you know why you're here? - No.

- do you know why you're here? - No.

Well, I've got bad news--

Or maybe it's good news.

Your friend, bobby symes,

Took a couple of bullets in the Head last night.

Is he going to pull through?

The sign on the door says "Homicide," ed.

The sign on the door says "Homicide," ed.

Bobby is dead.

When did you last have contact With him?

Oh, man.

I don't know, let's see.

- what's today, wednesday? - Friday.

Right, friday.

Right, friday.

Uh, let's see-- sunday.

Yeah, we were watching some Football

At a sports bar at the beach There in kitsilano.

At a sports bar at the beach There in kitsilano.

Okay, good. Last night-- that Would be thursday.

Can you account for your Movements

From midnight on?

From midnight on?

- yeah, I was at home in bed. - Alone?

- yeah, alone. - sleeping?

- yeah, alone. - sleeping?

Yeah, sleeping.

Do you talk in your sleep, ed?

Do you talk in your sleep, ed?

I don't think so.

Because we got about six phone Calls

From your cell phone to bobby's Cell phone

At 1:00 a.M., 1:10, 1:16--

- oh, yeah. - and bring you some Dope?

- oh, yeah. - and bring you some Dope?

- I don't do coke. - did I say Cocaine?

Okay, edward,

Okay, edward,

I don't think you're telling me Everything, so I want you

- to spend the night here with Us, okay? - I didn't do Anything.

- to spend the night here with Us, okay? - I didn't do Anything.

Maybe a good night's sleep will Help improve your memory.

- I need to talk to you about a Case. - sure, fire away.

- I need to talk to you about a Case. - sure, fire away.

I had dinner with rupert jones Last night.

He told me about an autopsy he Did.

He told me about an autopsy he Did.

Rupert jones who just had his First baby?

Yeah.

The reason he brought it up is That it was

The reason he brought it up is That it was

The first body of a baby that he Had autopsied

Since he and anna had their Girl.

It got to him.

Anyway, cause of death was a Closed head injury,

But there wasn't any skull Fracture,

But there wasn't any skull Fracture,

Which is very unusual, so I Asked to see rupert's report.

- I think you know the case... - Oh, no.

- I think you know the case... - Oh, no.

Oh, yeah, I know this case. This Came in the other day.

You know what?

The uniform went down there, Spoke to the parents.

She was confident, nothing Suspicious.

Well, I'm suspicious.

Well, I'm suspicious.

The autopsy report lists the Cause of death

As a subdural hematoma.

That's consistent with a fall From the swing.

Without a fracture,

It's more consistent with shaken Baby.

It's more consistent with shaken Baby.

Shaking? That's what killed him?

There's been some fresh research Done,

There's been some fresh research Done,

And apparently it is so unlikely For a child to die

From a fall under four feet

That it's almost always a lie to Hide abuse.

That it's almost always a lie to Hide abuse.

We won't know unless I do a Second autopsy.

Okay, I'll have the body sent Back from the hospital.

Okay, I'll have the body sent Back from the hospital.

I will clear my schedule for it When it arrives.

I will clear my schedule for it When it arrives.

- thank you. - thank you.

When did it happen?

When did it happen?

Two nights ago.

How'd you find me, anyway?

- your number was stored in Bobby's cell phone. - right.

- your picture was in his Wallet. - yeah, it was.

- your picture was in his Wallet. - yeah, it was.

He was my boyfriend.

When was the last time you saw Bobby?

Tuesday, I think, we went to a Movie.

I've got to sit.

What about thursday?

What were you doing thursday Night?

What were you doing thursday Night?

I worked the late shift. I got Off at 3:00.

If I go and I ask the foreman, That's what I'm going to hear,

That you were working, right? Right?

Something wrong, ruby?

Something wrong, ruby?

I'm scared, all right?

- I'm just scared. - you know Something about this?

- I'm just scared. - you know Something about this?

I know all about this. I was There when it happened.

- you saw it? - yeah.

- you saw it? - yeah.

You'll have to come downtown and Make a statement.

- oh, no. - oh, yes.

Oh, yes...

On the infant, on terence Ellison--

On the infant, on terence Ellison--

Yeah, we're still waiting on the Body.

There's going to be a problem.

The hospital released the body Last night,

And the parents had it cremated This morning. I okayed it.

Sorry. I told them if the Autopsy was all done

And everything they needed was Done,

They could release the body to The parents, but...

They could release the body to The parents, but...

Okay, can we backtrack on this?

Without the body, it's going to Be tough to prove shaking.

Without the body, it's going to Be tough to prove shaking.

- yeah. - well, rupert said they Had

A complete set of x-rays and Complete histology.

A complete set of x-rays and Complete histology.

Yeah, maybe. Histology could Tell us whether there's any Retinal hemorrhage

- in the infant's eyes-- - if So, it's a result

- in the infant's eyes-- - if So, it's a result

Of rapid acceleration and Deceleration-- shaking.

Rupert should've flagged that. There's another kid there.

Rupert should've flagged that. There's another kid there.

- you helped bobby out with his Business? - oh, no. No way.

I work for a living. You saw Where I work.

Okay.

Okay.

You want to tell me how this Thing with bobby went down?

Well, bobby had to meet a guy Because the guy owed him money--

Well, bobby had to meet a guy Because the guy owed him money--

- did he say this guy's name? - No.

But I had to drive him on Account of he lost his license.

But I had to drive him on Account of he lost his license.

- so we went into the alley-- - What time was this?

I don't know-- 2:00 a.M., maybe.

- anyway, this car was waiting There-- - what kind of car?

- anyway, this car was waiting There-- - what kind of car?

I can't tell the story if you Keep on interrupting me.

It was just a car, all right?

It was just a car, all right?

So bobby got out of the car,

And then he got into the other Car, and--

Bang, bang...

Just like that.

Man, I was scared. I hit the Gas,

- and I was out of there. - so You saw the guy

- and I was out of there. - so You saw the guy

That killed your boyfriend, Bobby?

Yeah, I saw him. I remember his License number, too.

Oh, good. That's very good.

Oh, good. That's very good.

Here, I want you to write that Down for me.

So, ruby,

So, ruby,

You want to tell me now

Why you didn't come forward Right away

About your boyfriend getting Shot?

About your boyfriend getting Shot?

You don't know these guys, the Guys bobby hung with,

Bad, bad, bad.

Bad, bad, bad.

- they kill people. - they kill People.

Yeah, people are always Disappearing around them--

At least, that's what bobby told Me.

Must be hell getting up a Barbecue.

You see, in a case like this One--

Where a child dies--

We need to understand exactly How the tragedy happened.

Then we can stop the same thing

Happening to other children.

Yes, we understand.

Why don't you show me upstairs?

Why don't you show me upstairs?

I was in my office,

Checking the tokyo exchange After closing.

Terence played in here while you Worked?

Yeah, when claire wasn't here

Or julie was at school.

Or julie was at school.

- that way, I could keep an eye On him. - right.

So your daughter julie,

She would babysit terence Sometimes?

Yes. She's the one who found Him.

And, uh, where was julie prior To finding terence?

And, uh, where was julie prior To finding terence?

Uh, she was in the family room Downstairs.

Uh, she was in the family room Downstairs.

She was watching tv.

Could he have gone out this door Here?

No, he can't open the front Door.

No, he can't open the front Door.

If terence were heading to the Backyard,

He'd come through the family Room?

Yes.

This is where julie was watching Television?

This is where julie was watching Television?

Yes.

Mrs. Ellison, you told the Uniform

You'd just gotten home from Work.

Where was terence when you got Home?

Uh, he came upstairs with me.

And how long did he stay up here With you?

And how long did he stay up here With you?

Uh, for a little while,

And then I wanted to take a Shower,

So I sent him downstairs to his Dad.

So I sent him downstairs to his Dad.

Then he came down to the study

To see you, right?

For a few minutes, and then I...

I called for julie to come and Get him,

[ stutters ] And she brought him In here.

Right.

Well, why don't we go take a Look

At the backyard at the swings Here?

You told the officer that you Got home about 5:30.

Was that your usual time?

I'm a real estate agent.

My hours vary depending upon...

My hours vary depending upon...

When a client can see a Property, when I can show a Property.

Sometimes I don't get home till Midnight.

Sometimes I don't get home till Midnight.

That must've been hard,

Not being able to be here when You want to be,

And then getting home too tired.

I am never too tired for my Kids.

- my little nephew sure is a Pistol. - yeah?

Yeah, he's always into Everything.

Terence was like that,

Always climbing up on Everything.

Always climbing up on Everything.

He was a beautiful little boy.

It must be pretty rough on you.

It must be pretty rough on you.

It's like I just want to die.

You can't do that, ben. You've Got a family.

You can't do that, ben. You've Got a family.

Yeah.

My name's angela,

And this is my friend, mick.

And this is my friend, mick.

- hello. - your name's julie, is That right?

Hey, that's a nice monkey.

Hey, that's a nice monkey.

We're sorry about your brother.

Your mom explained that we are Here to find out what happened.

Can we ask you a few questions?

- okay. - good.

- okay. - good.

Your mom says you were in the Family room watching tv

When your brother came down. Is That right?

When your brother came down. Is That right?

Yeah. He wanted to go outside On the swings.

He always wants me to swing him Up high.

I used to like that.

I used to like that.

What else does he like you to Do?

He likes to bounce on the bed, Too.

He likes to bounce on the bed, Too.

Kind of like a big old Trampoline, huh?

Does he like to bounce in here?

Does he like to bounce in here?

On your bed? Eh?

Julie, when you were watching Tv,

- did you see terence go Outside? - no.

I thought he went upstairs Maybe.

I thought he went upstairs Maybe.

But after a couple of minutes,

You turned off the tv and went Outside.

My show was over.

Oh, and that's when you saw Terence again.

By the swings.

By the swings.

He was shaking all over and he Puked.

It scared me.

That's when you called for your Mommy and daddy.

You did the right thing.

[ leo ]: is that the guy you saw In the alley?

- who is he? - he knew bobby.

Maybe had a beef with him. Take A good look.

Maybe had a beef with him. Take A good look.

Is that the guy you saw in the Alley?

[ ruby ]: no, I've never seen Him before in my life.

He phoned bobby six times Shortly before bobby was killed.

Well, I've never seen him Before.

Hey, uh, sunny and I went over The x-rays and the histology,

Hey, uh, sunny and I went over The x-rays and the histology,

And we do both feel that the Cause of death

Was definitely a closed head Injury,

Was definitely a closed head Injury,

But there were retinal Hemorrhages in both of the eyes.

Rapid acceleration and Deceleration caused the injury--

- as in shaking. - nothing else Could have done this?

Could it have been the father Rough-housing with his son?

- did the father say he was Playing rough? - well, no,

But the bed was right by the Window--

The window's overtop of the Swing set, so if he was jumping On the bed-- no?

The window's overtop of the Swing set, so if he was jumping On the bed-- no?

Jumping on the bed wouldn't Cause this and neither would a Fall.

The injury shows specific Evidence of shaking.

The injury shows specific Evidence of shaking.

- this happen pretty quick? - [ Sunny]: not necessarily.

- this happen pretty quick? - [ Sunny]: not necessarily.

Not with this kind of injury I'd Say it took probably 30 to 40 Minutes at least

For the bleeding in the skull to Cause enough pressure on the Brain stem

For the bleeding in the skull to Cause enough pressure on the Brain stem

To put him in a coma and kill Him.

You're definite?

- yep. - okay.

30 or 40 minutes?

That could have been either one Of them.

The mother's upstairs, dad's Down in his office,

The mother's upstairs, dad's Down in his office,

- kid's all over the house, Right? - I hate to say this,

But it doesn't have to be the Parents. What about the Daughter, julie?

But it doesn't have to be the Parents. What about the Daughter, julie?

Maybe she's jealous of her Little brother.

- oh... - well, I had to bring It up.

- oh... - well, I had to bring It up.

A shaken baby-- to me, that's a Parent out of control.

Now, if we leave this daughter, Julie, in that household any Longer,

Now, if we leave this daughter, Julie, in that household any Longer,

She's at serious risk of injury, Maybe even worse.

So do you want to get social Services involved in this?

So do you want to get social Services involved in this?

If it was the parents,

I don't want to take any Chances.

I say we get that girl out of That house.

I say we get that girl out of That house.

Claire. Claire?

Hi, sweetie.

What are you doing up, huh?

You have to go to the bathroom?

Come on, let me put you back to Bed.

- you feeling all right? - I Want to say my prayers.

- you feeling all right? - I Want to say my prayers.

You want to say your prayers? That's a good idea.

Now I lay me down to sleep.

Now I lay me down to sleep.

Pray the lord my soul to keep.

If I die before I wake,

If I die before I wake,

Pray the lord my soul to take.

That's great, sweetie. Good job. Come on.

That's great, sweetie. Good job. Come on.

Mommy teach you that?

Here's harry.

Give him a hug for me.

Give him a hug for me.

Anything you want to tell me?

- stay with me. - daddy'll stay With you, honey.

- stay with me. - daddy'll stay With you, honey.

Daddy loves you.

Sweet dreams.

I did not shoot bobby,

I did not shoot bobby,

But I do congratulate the Son-of-a-- who did.

He saved the gene pool from Another cretin.

For an educated man, david,

You've got a terrible rap Sheet--

Assault, armed robbery.

How did you go

From the arts to armed robbery?

I got a little behind on my Student loans.

Oh, yeah, those tuition payments Are kind of high, aren't they?

I understand you and bobby go Way back.

Yeah, a few years.

Yeah, people tell me that you Owe him a lot of money, too.

I owe a lot of people money. I Don't go around shooting them,

- if that's what you're Inferring. - oh, yes,

- if that's what you're Inferring. - oh, yes,

I guess that is what I am Inferring, 'cause I've got a Witness

That puts you in that alley. They saw your car

And they wrote down your license Number.

- when did you say this was? - Three nights ago.

Well, it wasn't me. I was in Victoria three nights ago.

- you drove yourself over there? - yeah, I drove.

You got people over there who'll Vouch for you?

You got people over there who'll Vouch for you?

Yeah, I was staying at the Empress hotel.

- the empress hotel? - I've got Receipts.

You've got receipts? I wanna see Them.

See, my accountant makes me keep Every one.

See, my accountant makes me keep Every one.

It's a write-off. You've got the Dates on there.

- what's that? - that's for a Bottle of wine.

You paid $200 for a bottle of Wine?

No wonder you owe people money.

Ruby.

Ruby.

That license plate number you Gave me?

You're sure about that plate Number?

- yeah. What? - okay, come on.

- yeah. What? - okay, come on.

We pulled the guy in that owns The car that you saw in the Alley.

I want you to come in here and Take a look at him.

I want you to come in here and Take a look at him.

Okay, good.

Okay, take a look.

Okay, take a look.

That's him. That's the guy I Saw.

No mistake.

No mistake.

Okay, come on. We're going for a Ride.

Hey, tell that guy in interview He can go home.

What? That's the guy I saw.

Where'd you take your training,

The school for morons, you jerk?

The school for morons, you jerk?

I think you're jumping the gun On this one.

I went by the ellison house

And, from what I saw, it's a Normal family.

And, from what I saw, it's a Normal family.

The child, julie, outside of her Grief for her brother,

- seems perfectly adjusted-- - That's dead brother.

- seems perfectly adjusted-- - That's dead brother.

Your report should read "Dead Brother."

My concern is with the living Child.

- that makes two of us. - the Point is,

I saw no sign of any physical or Emotional abuse.

Okay, I've got two pathologists Willing to testify in open court

Okay, I've got two pathologists Willing to testify in open court

That this baby died of a severe Shaking. That's abuse, isn't it?

And as I understand it, the Pathologist at the hospital

And as I understand it, the Pathologist at the hospital

Didn't come to the same Conclusion.

He believed that terence died From a fall.

We've now discovered the doctor Was wrong, okay?

We've now discovered the doctor Was wrong, okay?

There's different information Available now than when they did The autopsy.

You know that.

If I pull this child from her Home and you're wrong,

If I pull this child from her Home and you're wrong,

You're making a painful Situation worse.

If you do nothing, the child is In danger.

If you do nothing, the child is In danger.

Have the parents been charged With anything?

- no, not at this point. - then In my judgment, until you have More,

- no, not at this point. - then In my judgment, until you have More,

I think it's in the best Interest

To leave julie where she is.

Call me if anything changes.

Call me if anything changes.

If julie ends up in the morgue, I should give you a call?

Get me something to justify me Taking that child from her home.

Get me something to justify me Taking that child from her home.

I've got to go.

Until then, I'm sorry.

Okay, ruby, come on. Let's go.

Okay, ruby, come on. Let's go.

This is where bobby was found

That morning, okay?

Over here. Right here. Exactly Right here.

Now where were you? Where was Your car?

- over there. - over there?

- yeah. - show me.

- yeah. - show me.

It was...

It was right here. A car was Parked right here.

It was right here. A car was Parked right here.

- right here? Exactly right Here? - yes?

Okay, so you had a good view From here?

You saw everything that went Down.

You saw everything that went Down.

Yes. You can see right there

Where he threw bobby out of the Car.

These are some crime pictures Taken of the scene

The morning that bobby was Found.

See these big dumpsters here?

They were being used by a Company

Doing some work in the Warehouse.

Now, if you were here, exactly In this spot,

You were right behind those Dumpsters,

You were right behind those Dumpsters,

Then there's no way in hell you Could have seen anything.

Um...

Um...

Maybe...

Maybe...

I was parked over there.

Ruby, quit your lying and tell Me the truth now.

- he's going to kill me if I Tell-- - who's going to kill You?

- ed. - ed?

- the guy you never saw before? - yes.

- the guy you never saw before? - yes.

Okay, come on.

- good afternoon, detectives. - Counselor.

Good afternoon, counselor. Have A seat.

Good afternoon, counselor. Have A seat.

Would either of you like to tell Me

Would either of you like to tell Me

Why homicide's investigating an Accidental death?

Yeah. We have a few questions About how terence died.

Ask them then.

Ask them then.

All right.

You're a stockbroker?

I'm a day trader, to be exact.

I'm a day trader, to be exact.

That's high-risk investing, from What I know about it.

I make a good living.

I make a good living.

Which is what you were trying to Do the day your son died?

Yes.

How was trading for you that Day?

How was trading for you that Day?

Well, there are so many ups and Downs,

It's hard to judge from one Day's loss.

- so you did lose money that Day? - don't answer that.

I can understand-- you're on a Bit of a losing streak,

I can understand-- you're on a Bit of a losing streak,

You get home, the kids are Carrying on--

It could leave you feeling a Little aggravated.

Move on, please.

Move on, please.

Mrs. Ellison, you said you were On your feet all day,

- that you were tired. - I never Said that.

- that you were tired. - I never Said that.

How was terence when you got Home after work? Was he cranky?

He was happy to see me.

He was happy to see me.

But you needed to take a shower To wash some of the day off, Right?

And terence wanted to play.

And terence wanted to play.

I told you, I sent him Downstairs to his dad.

Because you were angry, you were A little on edge.

- you just didn't want to deal With him. - she took a shower.

I take a shower when I get home From work.

You know, it just seems a little Odd

You know, it just seems a little Odd

That a child of three would be Left unsupervised--

- even for a few minutes. - do You have kids?

- even for a few minutes. - do You have kids?

Either of you? Didn't think so.

Terence didn't die from falling Off a swing.

Terence didn't die from falling Off a swing.

Somebody shook him.

Somebody shook him hard enough To kill him.

Shook him? I don't understand.

Shook him? What does that mean?

[ counselor ]: this interview is Over.

[ counselor ]: this interview is Over.

No. I want to know what he Means.

Are you saying somebody-- Somebody did this to him?

Are you saying somebody-- Somebody did this to him?

Mrs. Ellison, I advise you not To say anything more at this Point.

This interview is over.

Bobby was my ex-boyfriend,

And he wouldn't let go, you Know?

And he wouldn't let go, you Know?

He was always following me, and He would beat me,

And I thought he was going to Kill me for sure,

Especially when I started going Out with ed,

Especially when I started going Out with ed,

Who bobby thought was beneath Him.

So, ed said he'd talk to bobby,

So, ed said he'd talk to bobby,

And let him know that he Shouldn't hurt me.

So, I told bobby that ed and I Broke up,

So, I told bobby that ed and I Broke up,

And ed wanted to pay him the Money he owed him,

But we were late,

And ed kept calling bobby's Phone,

But bobby wouldn't answer

'cause he thought it was funny To keep ed waiting,

Which I didn't know, but that Made ed angry,

And bobby got in the car with Ed,

And bobby got in the car with Ed,

And...

Ed shot him.

Ed shot him.

[ sobs ] I didn't know he was Going to shoot him.

He just said talk, that's all, Just talk to him.

He just said talk, that's all, Just talk to him.

And...

And...

I can show you where he said he Threw the gun away.

No, that's all right. We'll get To that later.

No, that's all right. We'll get To that later.

Which one of these guys did you Start dating first?

Bobby. But I liked ed better,

Bobby. But I liked ed better,

So I broke up with bobby and Started dating ed.

How did you end up in the car With bobby?

I lied to bobby.

I told him that ed and I had Broken up

And I wanted to get back with Him,

But that was just to fool him Into coming here

But that was just to fool him Into coming here

Because ed owed him money.

- you understand? - no. Not Really.

Why don't you just show me where Ed hid the gun?

[ engine starts ]

One of those parents definitely Shook that kid.

One of those parents definitely Shook that kid.

The other may not know it.

We charge them, pit them against Each other,

We charge them, pit them against Each other,

Set them against each other,

The one who did it comes Forward.

We can't use a shotgun approach

And charge them to see how they React

Because we don't have enough Evidence.

The autopsy report is Definitive.

This is a shaken baby.

It clearly indicates that.

This is a type of injury that Does not occur

In any other circumstance.

In any other circumstance.

I know. I've seen the report. But there's no bruising,

There's no indication of ongoing Abuse.

I mean, maybe it wasn't Intentional.

I mean, maybe it wasn't Intentional.

What are the chances we can pin Criminal negligence on them?

Well, we still have to know Which one did it--

Well, we still have to know Which one did it--

If it was the parents.

- now, there's another child, Right? - yeah.

- now, there's another child, Right? - yeah.

Yeah. That's right.

It's time for a formal Interview.

It's time for a formal Interview.

Well, we're going to have to Bring child services in on this.

Do we have to? I kind of tried That route...

Do we have to? I kind of tried That route...

We didn't really hit it off.

Oh.

Okay, well, I'll see what I can Do.

Don't even say you know me.

I was just thinking, a couple of Days ago,

When I was taking julie to School,

When I was taking julie to School,

I had terence in the car seat,

And this car pulled out in front Of us,

And this car pulled out in front Of us,

Came out of nowhere,

And I had to slam on the brakes,

And I had to slam on the brakes,

And terence started crying.

I don't know...

What if I didn't have his belt On tight enough,

And that's when he got hurt?

And that's when he got hurt?

You didn't do this.

They've made a mistake.

No. No, no, no. No.

She's...

She's a liar.

Ed, we found the gun you used

In lost lagoon. Your prints are All over it.

Well, yeah, I shot him,

Well, yeah, I shot him,

But not like she says I did.

- she made me. - she made you?

How did she make you?

How did she make you do it?

How did she make you do it?

She said that bobby was going to Kill her,

She said that bobby was going to Kill her,

And he was going to kill me, Too,

'cause she was in love with me Now

'cause she was in love with me Now

And not with him.

He's crazy.

But you're the one who pulled The trigger, right?

But you're the one who pulled The trigger, right?

Yeah...

[ ed stuttering ]

Let me talk to her, 'cause then I can get her to tell

Let me talk to her, 'cause then I can get her to tell

- what really happened. - you Willing to wire up?

Yes. What does that mean?

Are you willing to wear a Recording device on your body

That will record your Conversation with ruby?

That will record your Conversation with ruby?

Yeah, I'm willing. I'm willing.

Smart choice.

- hello. - hi.

- hello. - hi.

Listen, before we go in,

I need you both to consider Julie's age and circumstances.

I need you both to consider Julie's age and circumstances.

She's very fragile, so will you Please just keep your questions

- simple and considerate? - oh, Well, let's just stop right now,

Because all we had prepared were A bunch

Of complex and inconsiderate Questions.

Of complex and inconsiderate Questions.

Nobody's looking to beat a Confession out of anybody here.

Just try to keep an open mind, And we'll do the same.

If I feel that you're being Inappropriate, I'll intervene.

Counselor?

We're actually here to see the Ellisons' daughter.

Well, I'm sorry, detectives,

You're going to have to leave The premises.

This is a restraining order from The supreme court

Preventing you or anyone from Your office

Preventing you or anyone from Your office

From speaking to any member of The ellison family,

Including julie ellison.

- have a nice day. - thank you.

- have a nice day. - thank you.

It wasn't her, honey.

It wasn't her, honey.

She didn't hurt terence.

[ beeping ]

[ beeping ]

[ beeping stops ]

Excuse me.

- what are you doing here? - my Name's dominic da vinci.

I'm the coroner working on your Son's case,

Which gives me the authority to Be back here.

Which gives me the authority to Be back here.

Well, I don't care who you are,

You can't be here without our Lawyer present.

Your lawyer, okay.

Your lawyer, okay.

This swing set--

What would you say at its Highest point it is?

And this is where you found your Son.

And this is where you found your Son.

Here.

See, now, we know--

And we know this for an absolute Fact--

That the chances of a child Falling and then dying,

From a distance like this,

From a distance like this,

Are just about zero.

That's not how your son died.

That's not how your son died.

Your son died as a result of Someone shaking him so severely

Your son died as a result of Someone shaking him so severely

It caused his brain to Hemorrhage.

We've told you what happened.

No. I don't think you really Know what happened.

No. I don't think you really Know what happened.

- is your husband home? - he's Out.

What about your daughter, julie?

You can't speak with my Daughter.

You can't speak with my Daughter.

- we have a restraining order. - Against the police.

I'm not the police...

I'm here to tell you that you Can allow your daughter to talk To me,

And we can possibly discover the Truth, or we can extend

This extremely painful situation

Into months and possibly even Years.

Please let me talk to her.

Please let me talk to her.

Now, julie, do you remember the Two policemen that came here,

Now, julie, do you remember the Two policemen that came here,

And they were asking you Questions about your brother, Terence?

Yeah, a policewoman asked me Questions.

Yeah, a policewoman asked me Questions.

That's right, and what you told Her

Was that your brother, terence, Was in here with you

Was that your brother, terence, Was in here with you

- when you were watching tv. - Yeah. He was bugging me to play With him.

He was bugging you? Did that Make you mad?

He was bugging you? Did that Make you mad?

Yeah. I was trying to watch tv.

Oh, yeah, yeah. That can really Make you mad.

So, did you give him a shove, Give him a push?

So, did you give him a shove, Give him a push?

- no. - no?

How was he feeling, your Brother?

How was he feeling, your Brother?

Was he happy? Was he sad?

I don't know.

But he wanted to go outside to Play--

But he wanted to go outside to Play--

So he wasn't feeling sick or Anything like that, was he?

- I don't think so. - [da Vinci]: where was he

- I don't think so. - [da Vinci]: where was he

Before he came in here with you?

- with daddy in his study. - how Do you know?

- with daddy in his study. - how Do you know?

Daddy called me.

He wanted me to play with Terence.

Why did daddy want you to play With terence?

Why did daddy want you to play With terence?

Because terence was being a pain In the butt.

Was that what your dad said?

Was that what your dad said?

Yeah. I heard him when I went In to get terence.

Oh, yeah?

Oh, yeah?

What was he saying, your dad?

That he was a bad boy and to Stop crying.

So, he was mad, pretty mad your Dad, was he?

So, he was mad, pretty mad your Dad, was he?

Yes.

[ car engine starts ]

Okay, tell me again. Tell me Again.

You've got to lead her a little Bit,

Like, "Hey ruby, the cops picked Me up."

"Hey, ruby, the cops picked me Up."

"Hey, ruby, the cops picked me Up."

And you don't know what to do,

On account of she told you to Kill bobby.

"Hey, ruby...

"Hey, ruby...

"The cops picked me up.

"The cops picked me up,

And I don't know what to do."

"I don't know what to do."

You've got to lead her into Saying she told you to do it.

- okay. - okay. Let's go over It again.

Hey, ruby.

The cops picked me up and I Don't know what to do.

Okay. We'll go with that.

As soon as she admits anything, We'll move right in.

Here. Put your shirt on.

Here. Put your shirt on.

Okay.

Hey, ruby. Hey, ruby.

Hey, ruby.

Ruby, hey.

Ruby, hey.

Based upon what I just heard in There,

I'm going to have to phone Social services right now

And recommend they come down Here

And recommend they come down Here

- and remove your daughter from The home. - you can't do that.

You have no right to decide What's best for my family.

I just can't, in all good Conscience,

Leave her living here--

As long as your husband's also Living here.

Are you suggesting I throw him Out?

Are you suggesting I throw him Out?

He's not a threat to julie, to Anyone.

I'm not so sure about that.

He lied to us regarding the Circumstances of your son's Death.

You're asking me to break up my Family. I have lost my son.

Do you want me to lose my Daughter or my husband?

Do you want me to lose my Daughter or my husband?

That's a choice you're going to Have to make.

Hello?

Yeah. Could you get me sharon, Please?

Yeah. Could you get me sharon, Please?

Ed, let go! Get your hands off Me.

- hey! - mind your own business.

- what are you doing? - get Lost!

Ed... Ow!

You hurt me, there's a roomful Of witnesses.

You hurt me, there's a roomful Of witnesses.

I'm not going to hurt you. Just Calm down. Calm down.

- all right-- - don't touch me!

- I'm not going to-- - what do You want?

- I'm not going to-- - what do You want?

- I wanted to see you. - well, Here I am.

- I wanted to see you. - well, Here I am.

- what do you want? - I want...

I want...

The cops picked me up.

I told 'em that you put me up to Killing bobby.

Well...

Well...

What'd you do that for?

'cause I was mad at you.

[ sirens approaching ]

[ sirens approaching ]

Get off her, ed.

Get off her, ed.

Damn it, get off of her!

I love you, ruby.

I love you.

Oh, please.

Oh, please.

Ruby...

- ruby! - ed, I love you!

- I love you! - don't hurt him!

- ruby... - ed...

- ruby... - ed...

Ruby!

Claire...

Claire...

Um...

I have something to tell you.

I tried to stop him from--

From messing up the comp-- the Computer--

And it didn't seem like he was Hurt,

And I forgot.

But I... It wasn't you.

But I... It wasn't you.

It was not you. It was me.

I'm really... I'm real...

I'm really... I'm real...

I'm really sorry.

I did this.

I did this.

I'm really sorry.

But if I remember--

I... I shook him.

I just had to tell you.

And I'll-- I'll tell them.

I didn't know it was my fault,

Not until the police told me About how he...

About how he died, about the Shaking.

About how he died, about the Shaking.

You have to understand,

I have never even hit my kids, Never.

I have never even hit my kids, Never.

All right, you admit to shaking Terence?

All right, you admit to shaking Terence?

- yeah. - he'll accept a charge Of criminal negligence

- yeah. - he'll accept a charge Of criminal negligence

If the other child can live with Her mother.

I've got to speak to the crown Attorney on this one,

But I can't see how we can't Make a deal here.

But I can't see how we can't Make a deal here.

If you'll excuse me for a Second.

- hey, mick. - how'd we do on That?

Pretty good. Managed to rip this Family completely apart,

Pretty good. Managed to rip this Family completely apart,

Set the parents at each other,

And ripped the surviving Daughter right out of their Arms,

But, hey, they'll find a way

To stitch their lives back Together again.

Yeah, right. At least we know What happened.

Yeah, right. At least we know What happened.

Yeah, I hope so.