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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,125 --> 00:00:15,250 [bright tone] 2 00:00:37,166 --> 00:00:39,333 - Okay, this is Ruth Litoff's photography 3 00:00:39,417 --> 00:00:43,458 and a portrait of her sister. 4 00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:47,709 Do you want to talk about your sister? 5 00:00:47,792 --> 00:00:50,041 - I love my sister very much. 6 00:00:50,125 --> 00:00:52,458 She's probably the most important person to me 7 00:00:52,542 --> 00:00:55,917 in the world. 8 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,959 [melancholy music] 9 00:00:59,041 --> 00:01:06,125 ♪ ♪ 10 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:14,375 - So... 11 00:01:14,458 --> 00:01:17,083 What are your plans for the storage space? 12 00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:22,208 ♪ ♪ 13 00:01:22,291 --> 00:01:24,083 - What do you mean? 14 00:01:24,166 --> 00:01:25,834 - [laughs nervously] Um... 15 00:01:25,917 --> 00:01:27,500 Are you gonna look at the things? 16 00:01:27,583 --> 00:01:32,166 When do you think that you're gonna do that? 17 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:35,417 ♪ ♪ 18 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,750 - I don't like to remember things, 19 00:01:38,834 --> 00:01:41,750 and I feel like all the memories are in there. 20 00:01:41,834 --> 00:01:46,792 ♪ ♪ 21 00:01:46,875 --> 00:01:50,375 Okay, we're gonna do it. 22 00:01:50,458 --> 00:01:52,875 If I throw up on that lens, 23 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:54,375 are we covered? - Yeah. 24 00:01:54,458 --> 00:01:55,667 - [laughs] 25 00:01:55,750 --> 00:02:02,834 ♪ ♪ 26 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:08,250 Are you worried that when I 27 00:02:08,333 --> 00:02:09,458 start looking through this stuff, 28 00:02:09,542 --> 00:02:12,000 that I'm gonna go crazy? 29 00:02:12,083 --> 00:02:14,542 - I worry that you think you're gonna go crazy. 30 00:02:14,625 --> 00:02:21,709 ♪ ♪ 31 00:02:52,542 --> 00:02:55,792 - You know Jane got me a space in Brooklyn for three months. 32 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:57,375 - That's good. 33 00:02:57,458 --> 00:03:00,542 ♪ ♪ 34 00:03:00,625 --> 00:03:03,000 - Hi, I'm Hope. - Chris. 35 00:03:03,083 --> 00:03:06,000 ♪ ♪ 36 00:03:06,083 --> 00:03:08,125 - Everyone in my suicide bereavement group 37 00:03:08,208 --> 00:03:11,125 has a storage space that they can't unpack 38 00:03:11,208 --> 00:03:13,000 of their dead person. 39 00:03:13,083 --> 00:03:14,917 - Are you the first person to unpack her storage space? 40 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,375 - I'm gonna be the first one. 41 00:03:18,458 --> 00:03:21,041 - Do you think that this is gonna be helpful? 42 00:03:21,125 --> 00:03:22,458 You feel compelled to do it? 43 00:03:22,542 --> 00:03:25,041 - I feel compelled to do it. 44 00:03:25,125 --> 00:03:26,166 - Clearing everything out? 45 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:27,083 - Yeah. 46 00:03:27,166 --> 00:03:30,917 ♪ ♪ 47 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,959 It's been six years. 48 00:03:33,041 --> 00:03:35,208 I feel like I've trapped her in there... 49 00:03:35,291 --> 00:03:40,000 ♪ ♪ 50 00:03:40,083 --> 00:03:42,875 but I think she's mad at me. 51 00:03:42,959 --> 00:03:45,750 - Why? 52 00:03:45,834 --> 00:03:49,709 - Because I was a bad sister. 53 00:03:49,792 --> 00:03:52,208 - How were you a bad sister? 54 00:03:52,291 --> 00:03:55,000 - You're kidding, right? 55 00:03:55,083 --> 00:03:56,583 Not kidding? 56 00:03:56,667 --> 00:03:58,375 - No. I-I-I don't see how you were a bad sister. 57 00:03:58,458 --> 00:04:00,041 - I didn't s-- 58 00:04:00,125 --> 00:04:02,458 - From my perspective, she was not the greatest sister 59 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,041 in the world. 60 00:04:04,125 --> 00:04:06,041 - But she was sick, and I wasn't. 61 00:04:06,125 --> 00:04:08,875 - Well, how were you a bad sister? 62 00:04:08,959 --> 00:04:11,333 - I didn't save her. 63 00:04:11,417 --> 00:04:18,500 ♪ ♪ 64 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,375 [van beeping] 65 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,583 - I'll show you where it is. - Okay. 66 00:04:35,667 --> 00:04:38,250 - [laughs] 67 00:04:38,333 --> 00:04:42,834 This hallway feels like an insane asylum. 68 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:48,917 [ethereal music] 69 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,917 ♪ ♪ 70 00:04:56,125 --> 00:05:03,208 ♪ ♪ 71 00:05:03,792 --> 00:05:07,417 - In one of her suicide notes, she said 72 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:09,000 she definitely wanted her photographs 73 00:05:09,083 --> 00:05:11,166 to be out in the world 74 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:13,792 being seen and being enjoyed by people, 75 00:05:13,875 --> 00:05:16,250 but I'm paralyzed. I can't-- 76 00:05:16,333 --> 00:05:17,667 I can't give them up. 77 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:19,375 ♪ ♪ 78 00:05:19,458 --> 00:05:22,041 I just need my moment with all of it. 79 00:05:22,125 --> 00:05:29,208 ♪ ♪ 80 00:05:41,667 --> 00:05:43,750 Do you think that's the last-- - We decided one more trip. 81 00:05:43,834 --> 00:05:45,333 - One more trip? Okay. 82 00:05:45,417 --> 00:05:52,542 ♪ ♪ 83 00:06:01,834 --> 00:06:03,375 Thank you. 84 00:06:03,458 --> 00:06:10,583 ♪ ♪ 85 00:06:20,709 --> 00:06:24,041 - I got everything. 86 00:06:24,125 --> 00:06:26,375 - Kids, you have everything you need? 87 00:06:26,458 --> 00:06:28,083 - Mm-hmm. 88 00:06:28,166 --> 00:06:29,709 - Ticket? - Yeah. 89 00:06:29,792 --> 00:06:31,333 - Wallet, cell phone, everything you need? 90 00:06:31,417 --> 00:06:33,041 - I got everything. 91 00:06:33,125 --> 00:06:35,166 - I'm gonna miss you guys, but I'm gonna come 92 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:36,792 in two days. 93 00:06:36,875 --> 00:06:38,166 - Hug and a kiss. Let's go. 94 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:39,458 - I don't wanna... 95 00:06:39,542 --> 00:06:42,625 [kissing] 96 00:06:43,333 --> 00:06:44,291 - [chuckles] 97 00:06:44,375 --> 00:06:45,458 - Okay. 98 00:06:47,417 --> 00:06:49,291 Enough hugging and kissing. Let's go. 99 00:06:49,375 --> 00:06:51,542 - All right, don't be late. 100 00:06:51,625 --> 00:06:53,500 - Bye. - Bye. 101 00:06:53,583 --> 00:06:56,250 I love you. Safe travels. - I'll miss you. 102 00:06:56,333 --> 00:06:58,291 - Love you guys. 103 00:06:58,375 --> 00:06:59,917 Save some sand for me. 104 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,208 - Bye, bye, guys. See you later. 105 00:07:01,291 --> 00:07:03,291 - Bye. 106 00:07:21,583 --> 00:07:24,542 - Stuff was very important to Ruth. 107 00:07:27,083 --> 00:07:29,083 I mean, everything was important to her, 108 00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:31,667 and that's why she saved everything. 109 00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:37,417 I think, if I can look at what was important to her, 110 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,375 I could get some answers. 111 00:07:57,125 --> 00:07:58,333 Ambien... 112 00:07:58,417 --> 00:08:00,709 [faint string music] 113 00:08:00,792 --> 00:08:03,834 Lamictal. 114 00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:07,125 - How many times did she try to kill herself? 115 00:08:07,208 --> 00:08:08,917 - A lot. 116 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Twenty? 117 00:08:10,083 --> 00:08:15,250 ♪ ♪ 118 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:18,208 "Dear sir/madam, 119 00:08:18,291 --> 00:08:20,125 "I'm writing to you regarding Ruth Litoff, 120 00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:22,291 "who's a patient of mine. 121 00:08:22,375 --> 00:08:25,500 "Ruth Litoff experiences severe mood swings, 122 00:08:25,583 --> 00:08:27,166 "severe depression, 123 00:08:27,250 --> 00:08:30,583 and profound suicidal ideation." 124 00:08:30,667 --> 00:08:35,834 ♪ ♪ 125 00:08:35,917 --> 00:08:39,250 I would love to map out what happened. 126 00:08:39,333 --> 00:08:42,500 ♪ ♪ 127 00:08:42,583 --> 00:08:44,333 I can't ask my parents, 128 00:08:44,417 --> 00:08:46,083 because they're both dead. 129 00:08:46,166 --> 00:08:50,208 ♪ ♪ 130 00:08:50,291 --> 00:08:54,250 But I feel like Ruth's stuff has clues in it. 131 00:08:54,333 --> 00:09:00,875 ♪ ♪ 132 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:02,542 Do you see that piece right there? 133 00:09:02,625 --> 00:09:04,041 - Yeah. 134 00:09:04,125 --> 00:09:05,458 - What's really special about this 135 00:09:05,542 --> 00:09:07,458 is this is the front... 136 00:09:11,208 --> 00:09:14,834 but here's the secret message to me. 137 00:09:14,917 --> 00:09:16,625 The... 138 00:09:16,709 --> 00:09:18,208 blowing of the bubbles, like, 139 00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:20,583 maybe something we would do as kids, 140 00:09:20,667 --> 00:09:23,792 and then there's also sort of 141 00:09:23,875 --> 00:09:29,041 foreshadowing of dying, 142 00:09:29,125 --> 00:09:31,917 sort of when you would be "forever dancing." 143 00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:41,834 [melancholy string music] 144 00:09:41,917 --> 00:09:44,667 Growing up with a mentally ill person, 145 00:09:44,750 --> 00:09:47,959 it was a little bit like comedy and tragedy. 146 00:09:48,041 --> 00:09:49,959 ♪ ♪ 147 00:09:50,041 --> 00:09:52,834 It was such a confusing illness, 148 00:09:52,917 --> 00:09:56,417 because she could be so debilitated 149 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:59,834 and so magnificent. 150 00:09:59,917 --> 00:10:02,083 ♪ ♪ 151 00:10:02,166 --> 00:10:04,500 When we were young, 152 00:10:04,583 --> 00:10:06,583 I absolutely idolized her. 153 00:10:06,667 --> 00:10:08,417 I wanted to be like her. 154 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:10,875 I wanted to dress like her. 155 00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:14,083 I wanted to be able to do art like her, 156 00:10:14,166 --> 00:10:15,917 ♪ ♪ 157 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,166 She was the master of everything, 158 00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:20,625 and I was her assistant. 159 00:10:20,709 --> 00:10:23,083 I would sort the Lego pieces 160 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:25,500 and then she would build the castle. 161 00:10:25,583 --> 00:10:28,250 And I was so young. I was, like-- 162 00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:29,792 She could've been a cult leader, 163 00:10:29,875 --> 00:10:32,542 she was so charismatic. 164 00:10:32,625 --> 00:10:34,917 We used to play this really fun game 165 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,291 when my parents would go out. 166 00:10:37,375 --> 00:10:40,458 She was three years older, so she could babysit me, 167 00:10:40,542 --> 00:10:42,458 and we would do everything 168 00:10:42,542 --> 00:10:43,875 we weren't allowed to do in the house, 169 00:10:43,959 --> 00:10:46,166 which was not that many things. 170 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:48,542 We would eat ice cream in bed, 171 00:10:48,625 --> 00:10:50,333 and every time the phone rang, 172 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:51,625 we would just pick it up 173 00:10:51,709 --> 00:10:53,750 and scream into the receiver. 174 00:10:53,834 --> 00:10:55,291 [laughs] 175 00:10:55,375 --> 00:10:57,041 That was really fun. 176 00:10:57,125 --> 00:10:58,458 ♪ ♪ 177 00:10:58,542 --> 00:11:00,917 She taught me how to draw. 178 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,709 This was a huge deal. She taught me 179 00:11:02,792 --> 00:11:04,750 how to draw a profile, 180 00:11:04,834 --> 00:11:06,458 and I was the only kid in the class 181 00:11:06,542 --> 00:11:09,041 who knew how to draw a profile. 182 00:11:09,125 --> 00:11:10,834 When she started taking photographs 183 00:11:10,917 --> 00:11:12,625 when we were really young, my dad built her 184 00:11:12,709 --> 00:11:14,417 a darkroom in the closet, 185 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:16,583 and she would stay in there for hours 186 00:11:16,667 --> 00:11:19,500 and she would print the same photograph 187 00:11:19,583 --> 00:11:21,083 over and over again, 188 00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:22,542 and then she would show them to me, 189 00:11:22,625 --> 00:11:24,166 and it was almost like a test-- 190 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:26,458 which one of these is the best one-- 191 00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:28,417 and I would really want to get it right, 192 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:29,959 and then she would explain to me 193 00:11:30,041 --> 00:11:32,500 why this one was better than this one, 194 00:11:32,583 --> 00:11:34,583 and it was really cool. 195 00:11:34,667 --> 00:11:38,583 It was really cool to have a sister like that. 196 00:11:38,667 --> 00:11:41,709 [unearthly electric guitar music] 197 00:11:41,792 --> 00:11:44,208 ♪ ♪ 198 00:11:44,291 --> 00:11:46,250 In high school, 199 00:11:46,333 --> 00:11:48,625 she was very popular. 200 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:50,291 She also had 201 00:11:50,375 --> 00:11:53,250 a fabulous figure. 202 00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:56,083 Captain of all the sports teams. 203 00:11:56,166 --> 00:11:57,792 I would sit on her feet 204 00:11:57,875 --> 00:12:00,041 so she could do 100 sit-ups every night. 205 00:12:00,125 --> 00:12:02,875 - What was her title? Like... 206 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:05,166 Like, she-- wasn't she, like, the best shot 207 00:12:05,250 --> 00:12:08,125 in the United States of America under 13 208 00:12:08,208 --> 00:12:11,125 or something? - The best shot in America 209 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:12,375 for 16 and under 210 00:12:12,458 --> 00:12:14,250 with a .22 rifle. 211 00:12:16,166 --> 00:12:18,417 She was always gonna be the winner. 212 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:22,333 Whatever contest or competition or art project, 213 00:12:22,417 --> 00:12:25,250 she was going to come in first. 214 00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:26,959 ♪ ♪ 215 00:12:27,041 --> 00:12:30,458 I mean, there wasn't anything she couldn't do. 216 00:12:30,542 --> 00:12:33,667 That's what makes it so hard to understand. 217 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:35,417 ♪ ♪ 218 00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:36,959 - I never really feel pressure. 219 00:12:37,041 --> 00:12:39,083 I never feel like I have to do something 220 00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:42,250 to prove myself. I never have to prove myself. 221 00:12:42,333 --> 00:12:45,375 But I think it would be exciting, 222 00:12:45,458 --> 00:12:47,083 I think, to start all over. 223 00:12:47,166 --> 00:12:49,041 I sometimes wish I could just 224 00:12:49,125 --> 00:12:50,542 wash the slate clean, 225 00:12:50,625 --> 00:12:52,625 just start all over again. 226 00:13:01,834 --> 00:13:04,375 - Oh, here it is. 227 00:13:04,458 --> 00:13:08,417 [melancholy music] 228 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:10,709 I found her on 229 00:13:10,792 --> 00:13:13,125 December 12, 2008. 230 00:13:13,208 --> 00:13:14,792 ♪ ♪ 231 00:13:14,875 --> 00:13:17,458 I got a call from one of Ruth's best friends, 232 00:13:17,542 --> 00:13:20,500 who said, "I haven't heard from Ruth in three days," 233 00:13:20,583 --> 00:13:22,959 and I pretty much knew. 234 00:13:23,041 --> 00:13:25,250 - I remember, guys were walking down the hall 235 00:13:25,333 --> 00:13:27,792 with axes to break the door down. 236 00:13:27,875 --> 00:13:29,250 ♪ ♪ 237 00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:30,917 - [exhales deeply] 238 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,959 And then, the police let us in. 239 00:13:34,041 --> 00:13:35,542 ♪ ♪ 240 00:13:35,625 --> 00:13:37,333 It sounds like a strange thing to say, 241 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:38,917 but she had made it 242 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,625 as beautiful as one of her photographs. 243 00:13:41,709 --> 00:13:44,458 ♪ ♪ 244 00:13:44,542 --> 00:13:45,959 I saw her shoulder. 245 00:13:46,041 --> 00:13:48,750 I didn't want to look at her face. 246 00:13:48,834 --> 00:13:51,458 - I remember all of the letters around. 247 00:13:51,542 --> 00:13:53,834 - There were notes everywhere, 248 00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:56,834 and she tried to remember all the people she loved 249 00:13:56,917 --> 00:13:59,291 and left them presents. 250 00:13:59,375 --> 00:14:01,291 - There were Post-it notes on things 251 00:14:01,375 --> 00:14:03,667 saying what to do with them. 252 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:05,834 - The police officer said to me, 253 00:14:05,917 --> 00:14:07,834 "I've never seen anything like this." 254 00:14:07,917 --> 00:14:12,333 ♪ ♪ 255 00:14:12,417 --> 00:14:15,000 And then, there was my note. 256 00:14:15,083 --> 00:14:17,667 ♪ ♪ 257 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:19,333 It was... 258 00:14:19,417 --> 00:14:21,500 loving, 259 00:14:21,583 --> 00:14:24,959 kind, 260 00:14:25,041 --> 00:14:26,917 even optimistic... 261 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,333 ♪ ♪ 262 00:14:30,417 --> 00:14:32,583 and in very small handwriting, 263 00:14:32,667 --> 00:14:34,875 off to the side, 264 00:14:34,959 --> 00:14:38,000 she wrote "I know you know," 265 00:14:38,083 --> 00:14:40,792 and I have no idea what that means. 266 00:14:40,875 --> 00:14:42,041 ♪ ♪ 267 00:14:42,125 --> 00:14:43,375 [sighs] 268 00:14:43,458 --> 00:14:44,583 - Are you trying to find 269 00:14:44,667 --> 00:14:45,875 some sort of objective truth 270 00:14:45,959 --> 00:14:47,542 about, uh-- 271 00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:49,041 about what happened, or her life? 272 00:14:49,125 --> 00:14:52,166 I mean, is that what you're looking for? 273 00:14:52,250 --> 00:14:53,667 - Yes. 274 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:56,709 [melancholy guitar music] 275 00:14:56,792 --> 00:15:03,917 ♪ ♪ 276 00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:08,667 Why Ruth and not me? 277 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:11,291 Why was Ruth sick and I wasn't sick? 278 00:15:11,375 --> 00:15:13,041 We had the same parents. 279 00:15:13,125 --> 00:15:15,041 ♪ ♪ 280 00:15:15,125 --> 00:15:19,083 My dad was very, sort of, 1950s, "Mad Men." 281 00:15:19,166 --> 00:15:21,583 You know, you work hard, you play hard, 282 00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:24,417 you're not that involved with the children. 283 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:27,458 My mom really got the brunt of it. 284 00:15:27,542 --> 00:15:29,083 Lots of drama. 285 00:15:29,166 --> 00:15:32,083 Whatever mood Ruth was in was the mood 286 00:15:32,166 --> 00:15:34,583 the whole family was gonna be in. 287 00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:37,291 The message, very early on, was, 288 00:15:37,375 --> 00:15:38,750 "Be on high alert, 289 00:15:38,834 --> 00:15:40,250 "don't create any waves, 290 00:15:40,333 --> 00:15:42,583 "don't upset your sister, 291 00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:44,917 and don't make it worse." 292 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,792 ♪ ♪ 293 00:15:46,875 --> 00:15:49,250 We looked perfect on the outside, 294 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:52,000 but we were rotting on the inside. 295 00:15:52,083 --> 00:15:54,333 ♪ ♪ 296 00:15:54,417 --> 00:15:55,792 I dealt with it 297 00:15:55,875 --> 00:15:57,417 by disappearing 298 00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:59,583 into drugs and alcohol. 299 00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:01,250 Ruth dealt with it 300 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,875 by demanding more and more and more, 301 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:07,834 and if she didn't get what she wanted, 302 00:16:07,917 --> 00:16:10,166 she would threaten to kill herself. 303 00:16:10,250 --> 00:16:14,166 ♪ ♪ 304 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,834 Her first attempt-- 305 00:16:15,917 --> 00:16:18,291 she was 16 and I was 13, 306 00:16:18,375 --> 00:16:21,000 and she begged me to sleep in bed with her. 307 00:16:21,083 --> 00:16:22,333 ♪ ♪ 308 00:16:22,417 --> 00:16:24,041 When we woke up, 309 00:16:24,125 --> 00:16:26,875 I found out that she had taken a bottle of pills. 310 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:29,583 ♪ ♪ 311 00:16:29,667 --> 00:16:31,458 What if I woke up 312 00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:33,875 and my big sister was dead? 313 00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:36,542 We were in the same bed, and I didn't know. 314 00:16:36,625 --> 00:16:43,750 ♪ ♪ 315 00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:54,333 Now that I've started the project, 316 00:16:54,417 --> 00:16:56,959 I don't sleep very well. 317 00:16:57,041 --> 00:17:00,166 Thinking about my sister a lot. Um... 318 00:17:00,250 --> 00:17:02,542 I'm in a fight with my husband, 319 00:17:02,625 --> 00:17:05,542 because he says that I'm depressed, 320 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:09,917 but I think that I am 321 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,667 just grieving. 322 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:13,417 Think it's really hard for him to understand. 323 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:17,542 He hasn't lost a parent. 324 00:17:17,625 --> 00:17:21,333 He even has a great-grandparent in her 90s. 325 00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:23,875 I feel like he hasn't even lost a hamster. 326 00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:25,834 I feel like you enter a club 327 00:17:25,917 --> 00:17:28,875 when one of your parents dies, 328 00:17:28,959 --> 00:17:31,625 and until one of your parents dies, 329 00:17:31,709 --> 00:17:34,125 you don't know what it's like, 330 00:17:34,208 --> 00:17:37,208 but when you enter the suicide club 331 00:17:37,291 --> 00:17:41,041 it's a very... 332 00:17:41,125 --> 00:17:43,542 small club, 333 00:17:43,625 --> 00:17:45,667 elite club. 334 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:47,542 "Elite" sounds almost positive, 335 00:17:47,625 --> 00:17:49,542 but I don't mean it that way. 336 00:17:49,625 --> 00:17:53,375 I'm just--mean that... 337 00:17:53,458 --> 00:17:56,083 Uh, I don't-- 338 00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:59,750 I don't know if civilians can get it. 339 00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:07,667 [door unlocks, clicks open] 340 00:18:10,583 --> 00:18:13,000 - Have you just been coming here alone? 341 00:18:13,083 --> 00:18:14,166 - Yeah. 342 00:18:17,208 --> 00:18:19,083 - Wow, it's really big. 343 00:18:19,166 --> 00:18:20,417 Oh, my God. 344 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,417 - A lot of stuff, right? - A lot of pills. 345 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:26,291 - Yeah. 346 00:18:26,375 --> 00:18:28,291 - That's crazy. 347 00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:33,083 - That's only from 1999 until she died in 2008. 348 00:18:33,166 --> 00:18:35,500 - How old was she when she killed herself? 349 00:18:35,583 --> 00:18:37,583 - 42. 350 00:18:37,667 --> 00:18:40,875 - Why would she save them all? 351 00:18:40,959 --> 00:18:43,542 - I think she wanted to-- 352 00:18:43,625 --> 00:18:45,083 I have two theories. I think she wanted 353 00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:47,041 to make an art project out of them, 354 00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:49,500 but I also think she just wanted proof 355 00:18:49,583 --> 00:18:51,417 as to how hard she had been trying 356 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:53,166 to get well. 357 00:18:53,250 --> 00:18:55,458 - And you did this? - Yes. 358 00:18:55,542 --> 00:18:57,500 - What pills are they? What are they? 359 00:18:57,583 --> 00:18:59,083 - Look at them. 360 00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:00,750 Feel free. 361 00:19:00,834 --> 00:19:02,125 - Ambien... 362 00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:05,458 - That's a sleeping pill. 363 00:19:05,542 --> 00:19:07,166 - Dextrostat... 364 00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:11,417 - Lithium, I think, is for bipolar disorder. 365 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:15,083 - Dex--more dextrostat. 366 00:19:15,166 --> 00:19:19,125 You should get rid of all of these immediately. 367 00:19:19,208 --> 00:19:20,875 - Why do you think I should get rid of them? 368 00:19:20,959 --> 00:19:22,583 - Because I don't think you should have 369 00:19:22,667 --> 00:19:24,458 the temptation to take them. - I'm not. 370 00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:26,333 - This is just crazy. 371 00:19:26,417 --> 00:19:27,458 - Right? 372 00:19:27,542 --> 00:19:30,041 And none of these helped her. 373 00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:32,166 - Zolpidem. 374 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:35,500 This is nuts. - That's Ambien, too. 375 00:19:35,583 --> 00:19:37,542 That's the generic name. 376 00:19:37,625 --> 00:19:39,250 - Holy shit. 377 00:19:39,333 --> 00:19:40,875 Just throw them all out. 378 00:19:40,959 --> 00:19:42,333 - No, I can't throw them out. 379 00:19:42,417 --> 00:19:44,792 This was her lifeline. 380 00:19:44,875 --> 00:19:46,500 - But you... 381 00:19:46,583 --> 00:19:48,709 Being sober for 16 years, 382 00:19:48,792 --> 00:19:50,834 I'm just, as your lifelong friend, 383 00:19:50,917 --> 00:19:52,333 scared for your well-being. 384 00:19:52,417 --> 00:19:53,792 - I'm not gonna take them. 385 00:19:53,875 --> 00:19:55,000 - [sighs] 386 00:19:55,083 --> 00:19:57,166 Let me help you, however I can. 387 00:19:57,250 --> 00:19:58,667 It's a lot of beautiful artwork. 388 00:19:58,750 --> 00:20:00,875 - They're incredible, right? - Yeah. 389 00:20:00,959 --> 00:20:03,333 I mean, I always remember being blown away. 390 00:20:03,417 --> 00:20:06,250 So there's stuff from every series here? 391 00:20:06,333 --> 00:20:07,500 - Yeah, and I don't know-- 392 00:20:07,583 --> 00:20:10,208 did you ever see the kids? 393 00:20:10,291 --> 00:20:12,667 These are some of her earliest works. 394 00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:16,250 I believe she started them when she was 17. 395 00:20:16,333 --> 00:20:18,542 - Oh, my God. - Look at these kids. 396 00:20:18,625 --> 00:20:20,208 - Yeah, that's great. 397 00:20:20,291 --> 00:20:21,709 So you don't know how she-- where she went 398 00:20:21,792 --> 00:20:22,959 to take these pictures? 399 00:20:23,041 --> 00:20:24,208 - She was brave. She would walk 400 00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:25,667 all over the city 401 00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:28,208 and ask anyone to take their photograph. 402 00:20:28,291 --> 00:20:30,917 I mean, look at the portrait of this kid... 403 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,458 - Yeah. 404 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:34,375 - It's almost like 405 00:20:34,458 --> 00:20:35,875 you would want to say 406 00:20:35,959 --> 00:20:38,375 he's on the verge of losing his innocence, 407 00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:41,959 but I would say it's already lost. 408 00:20:44,458 --> 00:20:46,875 I mean, I love this, these two angry girls 409 00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:48,959 with that huge smiley face. 410 00:20:49,041 --> 00:20:50,375 - [laughs] 411 00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:53,000 - "E.T. dies over overdose." 412 00:20:53,083 --> 00:20:54,500 - That's... ironic. 413 00:20:54,583 --> 00:20:56,166 - I mean, look how young they are. 414 00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:57,792 They're babies. 415 00:20:57,875 --> 00:20:59,667 - [chuckles] 416 00:20:59,750 --> 00:21:01,166 - I mean, look at those kids. 417 00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:03,375 - Yeah. 418 00:21:03,458 --> 00:21:04,834 [chuckles] - Right? 419 00:21:04,917 --> 00:21:06,125 - Yeah. 420 00:21:06,208 --> 00:21:09,125 [eerie music] 421 00:21:09,208 --> 00:21:10,375 ♪ ♪ 422 00:21:10,458 --> 00:21:12,000 - It's very Molly Ringwald. 423 00:21:12,083 --> 00:21:13,250 - Yeah. 424 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,417 ♪ ♪ 425 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:19,917 - She did so many different styles. 426 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:27,000 ♪ ♪ 427 00:21:27,959 --> 00:21:29,834 - You walk into that apartment, 428 00:21:29,917 --> 00:21:32,083 and it was like a candy store of art. 429 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:34,917 I mean, her-- not only just her photographs 430 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,959 all over the place... 431 00:21:36,041 --> 00:21:38,125 ♪ ♪ 432 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:39,875 but she'd make these-- 433 00:21:39,959 --> 00:21:41,458 she'd have the little drawings 434 00:21:41,542 --> 00:21:43,333 and she'd make these little tchotchke things 435 00:21:43,417 --> 00:21:45,625 that she'd put all over the place, 436 00:21:45,709 --> 00:21:49,166 sad and searching... 437 00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:51,500 - Very fragile. - But also very inspiring 438 00:21:51,583 --> 00:21:53,458 and uplifting at the same time. 439 00:21:53,542 --> 00:21:56,834 ♪ ♪ 440 00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:58,250 - Come here. 441 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,375 - It's so impressive to me 442 00:22:07,458 --> 00:22:11,625 that Ruth was able to feel the pain 443 00:22:11,709 --> 00:22:17,166 and continue to be creative. 444 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:20,625 Many times, she would fall into 445 00:22:20,709 --> 00:22:22,417 such a deep depression 446 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:25,834 that she would feel like suicide was the only answer, 447 00:22:25,917 --> 00:22:28,834 and then, when she woke up in the hospital, 448 00:22:28,917 --> 00:22:32,250 she felt much better, 449 00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:34,583 and she was happy she was alive. 450 00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:37,834 ♪ ♪ 451 00:22:37,917 --> 00:22:39,208 - [indistinct] 452 00:22:42,083 --> 00:22:45,500 I can tell this one's very delicate. 453 00:22:45,583 --> 00:22:49,291 I think your sister drew this. 454 00:22:49,375 --> 00:22:51,000 Did she draw this? 455 00:22:51,083 --> 00:22:52,250 - Mm-hmm. 456 00:22:52,333 --> 00:22:55,667 - I will be very gentle with it. 457 00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:58,250 The sides of the pages are yellow. 458 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:01,417 - What does that tell you? - That it's very old. 459 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,667 - You really like that book? - Yeah. 460 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:08,583 - Thank you. - You're welcome, sweetie. 461 00:23:10,917 --> 00:23:13,125 - [laughs] 462 00:23:25,959 --> 00:23:28,542 - You can't go through and read all of her journals. 463 00:23:28,625 --> 00:23:29,750 - Why not? 464 00:23:29,834 --> 00:23:32,166 - 'Cause that's just crazy. 465 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:34,583 - She left them for me to read. 466 00:23:34,667 --> 00:23:36,625 If she didn't want anyone to read them, 467 00:23:36,709 --> 00:23:38,417 she would have thrown them away. 468 00:23:47,333 --> 00:23:49,417 To tell you the truth, I was so, like, 469 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:51,625 blacked out for everything, 470 00:23:51,709 --> 00:23:54,083 and she took such precise notes 471 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,917 on what happened, 472 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,250 I'm finally looking at what happened. 473 00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:02,417 - And why are you wanting to look now? 474 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:04,625 [somber music] 475 00:24:04,709 --> 00:24:06,917 - Just want to understand her more. 476 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:14,125 ♪ ♪ 477 00:24:17,667 --> 00:24:20,667 [guitar and piano music] 478 00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:27,875 ♪ ♪ 479 00:25:38,417 --> 00:25:41,875 Do you know who made this artwork right here? 480 00:25:41,959 --> 00:25:43,166 - No. 481 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,041 - Do you want to know? - Yeah. 482 00:25:45,125 --> 00:25:46,333 - My sister. 483 00:25:46,417 --> 00:25:47,709 - Uh-huh. 484 00:25:47,792 --> 00:25:49,166 - Do you know her name? 485 00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:51,583 - Ruth? - Mm-hmm. 486 00:25:54,125 --> 00:25:56,083 You know who made that artwork right there? 487 00:25:56,166 --> 00:25:58,083 - Ruth? 488 00:25:58,166 --> 00:25:59,750 - You going to guess Ruth for everything now? 489 00:25:59,834 --> 00:26:03,125 - Yeah. - [laughs] 490 00:26:03,208 --> 00:26:04,667 - Who made this? - Ruth. 491 00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:07,709 And those pictures are of my mother. 492 00:26:07,792 --> 00:26:08,709 - And you. 493 00:26:08,792 --> 00:26:10,291 - No, not me. 494 00:26:10,375 --> 00:26:12,083 - You're over there. 495 00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:14,959 - That's my mom in the window, when she was a little girl. 496 00:26:17,625 --> 00:26:20,542 [melancholy music] 497 00:26:20,625 --> 00:26:22,208 ♪ ♪ 498 00:26:22,291 --> 00:26:25,375 My mother was very afraid of her own mother, 499 00:26:25,458 --> 00:26:28,750 our grandmother, who we never met, 500 00:26:28,834 --> 00:26:31,250 and her name was Ruth, 501 00:26:31,333 --> 00:26:36,166 and my mother named her first daughter Ruth, 502 00:26:36,250 --> 00:26:39,583 which is a traditional thing to do. 503 00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:43,583 Then I come along, and she names me Hope. 504 00:26:43,667 --> 00:26:45,583 I'm named after her father, 505 00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:48,000 who she adored. 506 00:26:48,083 --> 00:26:49,458 - When Ruthie was born, 507 00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:51,041 she was a very demanding child, 508 00:26:51,125 --> 00:26:52,250 very difficult child. 509 00:26:52,333 --> 00:26:53,375 When you were born, 510 00:26:53,458 --> 00:26:55,542 it was the total opposite. 511 00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:57,458 Your mom had a very hard time. 512 00:26:57,542 --> 00:26:59,792 She had a very hard time, and 513 00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:02,417 I even recall your mom telling me 514 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,000 about times when she was taking her to the park, 515 00:27:06,083 --> 00:27:07,834 and if she met a friend in the street, 516 00:27:07,917 --> 00:27:09,542 and wanted to stop and talk, 517 00:27:09,625 --> 00:27:12,834 Ruthie would start to scream and yell in the carriage. 518 00:27:12,917 --> 00:27:14,625 Then mom would have to run. 519 00:27:14,709 --> 00:27:18,917 Two different--completely different--children from birth. 520 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,542 From birth. 521 00:27:20,625 --> 00:27:23,208 ♪ ♪ 522 00:27:23,291 --> 00:27:25,458 - And I remember being a little kid, 523 00:27:25,542 --> 00:27:28,291 not knowing anything about mental illness, 524 00:27:28,375 --> 00:27:29,875 or knowing that Ruth was struggling 525 00:27:29,959 --> 00:27:31,625 with any problems, and saying, 526 00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:36,291 "Why does she keep asking me if I love her? 527 00:27:36,375 --> 00:27:38,917 I just told her yesterday." 528 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,917 She would ask me over and over again, 529 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,834 and then she would often 530 00:27:42,917 --> 00:27:45,250 give me these tests of love. 531 00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:47,542 She would say, "If I die, 532 00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,375 would you shave your head?" 533 00:27:50,458 --> 00:27:51,917 We were just kids, 534 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,959 and I would say, "Yes, I'll shave my head." 535 00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:56,542 She would say, "If I die, 536 00:27:56,625 --> 00:27:58,000 "will you take my ashes 537 00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,667 "and mix them with clay 538 00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:02,125 "and make me into a pot 539 00:28:02,208 --> 00:28:04,709 and put flowers in every day?" 540 00:28:04,792 --> 00:28:08,500 And I would say, "Yes, I'll do that." 541 00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:11,667 That's what breaks my heart the most. 542 00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:13,166 When I see her friends, 543 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:14,417 they say, "You know, 544 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:15,875 your sister really loved you," 545 00:28:15,959 --> 00:28:19,000 and what I really want them to say is 546 00:28:19,083 --> 00:28:22,291 "Your sister knew that you really loved her." 547 00:28:22,375 --> 00:28:25,333 [mournful music] 548 00:28:25,417 --> 00:28:28,667 ♪ ♪ 549 00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:31,375 She wanted us to be twins, 550 00:28:31,458 --> 00:28:33,750 have a secret language, 551 00:28:33,834 --> 00:28:35,583 and at a certain age, 552 00:28:35,667 --> 00:28:38,917 that started to feel suffocating to me, 553 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,542 and I don't think she liked it 554 00:28:40,625 --> 00:28:44,834 when I wanted to be my own person. 555 00:28:44,917 --> 00:28:47,458 That was taken as rejection, 556 00:28:47,542 --> 00:28:50,875 when it--it really was just normal growing up. 557 00:28:50,959 --> 00:28:54,542 ♪ ♪ 558 00:28:54,625 --> 00:28:57,542 [emotional piano music] 559 00:28:57,625 --> 00:29:04,750 ♪ ♪ 560 00:29:43,333 --> 00:29:44,583 Were you sleeping? 561 00:29:44,667 --> 00:29:46,000 - I'm not sleeping. 562 00:29:46,083 --> 00:29:49,125 - Can I have a kiss? - Mm-hmm. 563 00:29:49,208 --> 00:29:51,834 Ugh. That was a lick! 564 00:29:51,917 --> 00:29:53,458 - [cries] - Okay, I just wanted 565 00:29:53,542 --> 00:29:55,291 to know where you were. I'm sorry. 566 00:29:55,375 --> 00:29:56,458 - Hi. 567 00:29:56,542 --> 00:30:00,375 - [cries] 568 00:30:00,458 --> 00:30:03,542 - She's really afraid that 569 00:30:03,625 --> 00:30:06,583 she's Ruth in the making, 570 00:30:06,667 --> 00:30:09,750 and I'm terrified. 571 00:30:09,834 --> 00:30:11,792 The doctor told me 572 00:30:11,875 --> 00:30:13,583 when my children turn two, 573 00:30:13,667 --> 00:30:15,625 that I was going to be reminded of my sister, 574 00:30:15,709 --> 00:30:17,291 because people who have 575 00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:20,291 personality disorders like Ruth's 576 00:30:20,375 --> 00:30:21,500 and two-year-olds 577 00:30:21,583 --> 00:30:25,125 have a lot of similarities. 578 00:30:25,208 --> 00:30:28,792 I worry about their health, 579 00:30:28,875 --> 00:30:31,333 I worry about their sanity, 580 00:30:31,417 --> 00:30:33,083 their sobriety. 581 00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:40,041 I feel like I gave them a really bad hand of DNA. 582 00:30:40,125 --> 00:30:42,500 - Our children don't have that problem. 583 00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:46,000 Our two-year-old is not-- have any mental issues. 584 00:30:46,083 --> 00:30:47,458 She's two, 585 00:30:47,542 --> 00:30:49,375 and I blame Ruth 586 00:30:49,458 --> 00:30:53,291 for your concern about, like, having to worry about that. 587 00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:55,041 I'm sitting in our kitchen, 588 00:30:55,125 --> 00:30:58,208 talking about how Ruth affects how we parent our kids. 589 00:30:58,291 --> 00:30:59,834 Like, I don't-- 590 00:30:59,917 --> 00:31:02,834 - There's a genetic component. 591 00:31:02,917 --> 00:31:04,083 - Uh, I guess. 592 00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:07,834 - You never worried about it? 593 00:31:07,917 --> 00:31:09,333 - [baby squeals merrily] 594 00:31:09,417 --> 00:31:10,667 - Whee! 595 00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:11,917 - Smiling! 596 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,375 - It's Christmas Eve, and I'm at my in-laws' house 597 00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:32,875 in Los Angeles. 598 00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:37,208 It's five days after 599 00:31:37,291 --> 00:31:40,375 Ruth was buried, 600 00:31:40,458 --> 00:31:41,750 six years ago. 601 00:31:41,834 --> 00:31:43,166 Um... 602 00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:46,250 To--this is always a hard time for me, 603 00:31:46,333 --> 00:31:49,375 and my... 604 00:31:49,458 --> 00:31:51,208 2 1/2-year-old daughter-- 605 00:31:51,291 --> 00:31:54,166 just out of the blue, she 606 00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:57,208 decides to pronounce that 607 00:31:57,291 --> 00:31:58,834 Mommy doesn't love her, 608 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,208 but Daddy loves her very much. 609 00:32:01,291 --> 00:32:02,917 I don't know if this is something that 610 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,417 a normal two-year-old says, 611 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,375 but it actually really hurt my feelings. 612 00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:13,500 Merry Christmas. 613 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:20,500 [whispering] So it turns out, I'm totally the crazy one. 614 00:32:23,583 --> 00:32:26,041 The baby went down to the party 615 00:32:26,125 --> 00:32:28,625 and she cried that 616 00:32:28,709 --> 00:32:30,583 she wanted Mommy to put her to bed, 617 00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:32,750 and I said to her, 618 00:32:32,834 --> 00:32:36,458 "No, you like Daddy, 619 00:32:36,542 --> 00:32:40,000 not Mommy." 620 00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:42,792 My husband got so mad at me. 621 00:32:42,875 --> 00:32:45,041 He was like, "You're the adult." 622 00:32:50,417 --> 00:32:51,625 I couldn't help it 623 00:32:51,709 --> 00:32:53,750 that my feelings were really hurt. 624 00:32:57,792 --> 00:33:01,500 My crazy makeup isn't helping anything. 625 00:33:01,583 --> 00:33:04,542 I look crazy, feel crazy. 626 00:33:07,208 --> 00:33:11,792 But what kind of two-year-old says, 627 00:33:11,875 --> 00:33:14,625 "Mommy doesn't love me. Only Daddy loves me." 628 00:33:14,709 --> 00:33:16,792 Is that normal? 629 00:33:16,875 --> 00:33:19,792 [quiet music] 630 00:33:19,875 --> 00:33:27,041 ♪ ♪ 631 00:33:28,792 --> 00:33:31,208 You knew Ruth in high school, 632 00:33:31,291 --> 00:33:33,667 and now you're a therapist. 633 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:36,917 I just really want to talk to an expert like you. 634 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,750 - The biggest fear that a lot of parents have is 635 00:33:39,834 --> 00:33:42,375 "Am I going to inherit 636 00:33:42,458 --> 00:33:45,583 you know, these mental illnesses? 637 00:33:45,667 --> 00:33:47,208 Is that going to happen to my child? 638 00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:49,208 both: Like, is that going to happen to my child? 639 00:33:49,291 --> 00:33:50,875 - Right, that's a-- - Sarah, tell me... 640 00:33:50,959 --> 00:33:53,333 - That's a big-- - Is gonna happen? 641 00:33:53,417 --> 00:33:55,166 - Well, if mental illness exists in the family, 642 00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:56,500 there is gonna be 643 00:33:56,583 --> 00:33:58,959 a possible genetic predisposition 644 00:33:59,041 --> 00:34:00,834 to having the mental illness 645 00:34:00,917 --> 00:34:03,542 be expressed in a child. 646 00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:04,917 Can I ask you a question? 647 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,500 Was there any diagnosis given to her 648 00:34:06,583 --> 00:34:08,041 when she was going to therapy? 649 00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:10,583 - Very often, she was given the diagnosis 650 00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:12,709 of bipolar disorder. - Okay. 651 00:34:12,792 --> 00:34:16,375 - But from what I've read and my experiences, 652 00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:18,208 she seems much more 653 00:34:18,291 --> 00:34:19,709 borderline personality disorder. 654 00:34:19,792 --> 00:34:21,917 - Mm-hmm, mm-hm. - For example, like, 655 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,375 that seem to be 656 00:34:23,458 --> 00:34:24,875 something missing in 657 00:34:24,959 --> 00:34:29,208 feeling love and-- and holding onto that. 658 00:34:29,291 --> 00:34:31,959 - So borderlines 659 00:34:32,041 --> 00:34:34,458 never, ever feel fulfilled. 660 00:34:34,542 --> 00:34:37,291 It's chronically empty. 661 00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:39,375 They're constantly trying to 662 00:34:39,458 --> 00:34:44,125 figure out how to be fulfilled, and they'll never get it. 663 00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:46,333 My guess is that Ruth, 664 00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,375 you know, during the '80s and '90s, 665 00:34:48,458 --> 00:34:51,250 that there was not enough research done 666 00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:52,709 right, on borderline, 667 00:34:52,792 --> 00:34:54,000 so she probably 668 00:34:54,083 --> 00:34:55,583 received the medication that she need 669 00:34:55,667 --> 00:34:57,208 to deal with the symptoms, 670 00:34:57,291 --> 00:35:00,375 but then, there was no other treatment that happened. 671 00:35:00,458 --> 00:35:02,709 Since it's not just about 672 00:35:02,792 --> 00:35:06,583 doing the medical treatment to cure the symptoms. 673 00:35:06,667 --> 00:35:09,250 It's also about doing the further investigation 674 00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:12,458 of the evolution of the family 675 00:35:12,542 --> 00:35:13,750 as a unit. 676 00:35:13,834 --> 00:35:16,208 - Right. 677 00:35:19,166 --> 00:35:20,959 Do you know the story behind these albums? 678 00:35:21,041 --> 00:35:22,583 - No. - Ruth decided 679 00:35:22,667 --> 00:35:24,583 she wanted to make these photo albums. 680 00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:28,291 My parents weren't necessarily interested in having her do it, 681 00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:30,250 but she made them pay her 682 00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:32,834 to make them. - [laughs] 683 00:35:32,917 --> 00:35:35,291 Yikes. [laughter] 684 00:35:35,375 --> 00:35:38,041 - That Ruth goes from - Yeah. That. 685 00:35:38,125 --> 00:35:41,458 - My grandmother. Literally my grandmother, 686 00:35:41,542 --> 00:35:43,250 and then you turn the page, 687 00:35:43,333 --> 00:35:46,583 and it's like, "Oh, whatever. Nude picture of my boyfriend." 688 00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:48,125 - And these are the albums she made for your parents. 689 00:35:48,208 --> 00:35:51,458 - Yes, that they had to pay for. 690 00:35:51,542 --> 00:35:53,417 - Ooh, Rolex shot. 691 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:55,625 - It looks like my mom is loving him, 692 00:35:55,709 --> 00:35:57,291 but she's really loving... - She's not. 693 00:35:57,375 --> 00:35:58,542 - The Rolex. - She's waiting for the watch. 694 00:35:58,625 --> 00:35:59,792 She got it going on. 695 00:35:59,875 --> 00:36:01,959 She knows what time it is. 696 00:36:02,041 --> 00:36:05,250 She really, you know, picked herself up, and... 697 00:36:05,333 --> 00:36:07,125 your mother had a horrible childhood. 698 00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,792 - I know. 699 00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:13,792 My mom came from a very poor family, 700 00:36:13,875 --> 00:36:15,500 and I think that very early on, 701 00:36:15,583 --> 00:36:18,041 she realized that the way she looked 702 00:36:18,125 --> 00:36:20,208 gave her some power. 703 00:36:20,291 --> 00:36:22,917 With this power, she was gonna get out of 704 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,667 her bad situation in Brooklyn 705 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:28,041 and looks became very important to her. 706 00:36:28,125 --> 00:36:29,709 [somber piano music] 707 00:36:29,792 --> 00:36:31,542 My mom was always on a diet. 708 00:36:31,625 --> 00:36:35,667 She was a lifetime member of Weight Watchers. 709 00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:38,667 If she gave us each a piece of cake, 710 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:41,000 Ruth and I used to say, 711 00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:42,834 "You gave her the smaller piece. 712 00:36:42,917 --> 00:36:44,250 You love her more." 713 00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:46,333 ♪ ♪ 714 00:36:46,417 --> 00:36:50,417 My mother's beauty really did work in her favor. 715 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,291 She was a model in the garment district, 716 00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:56,125 and she married my father 717 00:36:56,208 --> 00:36:59,208 and helped him build his business 718 00:36:59,291 --> 00:37:02,375 until she had the Manhattan lifestyle 719 00:37:02,458 --> 00:37:03,875 that she really wanted, 720 00:37:03,959 --> 00:37:06,250 and then could give her children 721 00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:08,041 the things that she always wanted 722 00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:09,875 to have herself. 723 00:37:09,959 --> 00:37:13,250 And some of them were a little superficial. 724 00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:16,875 Like, she always wanted to have blonde hair and blue eyes, 725 00:37:16,959 --> 00:37:19,333 and then... 726 00:37:19,417 --> 00:37:20,959 Well, like, in this picture, for example, 727 00:37:21,041 --> 00:37:23,375 this is totally... twisted. 728 00:37:23,458 --> 00:37:25,959 She dyed my sister's hair blond when she was five. 729 00:37:26,041 --> 00:37:28,208 - Oh, my God. 730 00:37:28,291 --> 00:37:30,750 And there begins the problems. 731 00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:40,000 ♪ ♪ 732 00:39:09,625 --> 00:39:13,834 - It looks like she liked this one a lot. 733 00:39:13,917 --> 00:39:15,875 It's nice and mushy. 734 00:39:18,041 --> 00:39:21,709 An adult with stuffed animals was very her. 735 00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:35,083 [crying] I don't know, it's like-- 736 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,417 this is stuff--for babies. 737 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,625 [sniffs] It's just... 738 00:39:46,333 --> 00:39:48,333 It's like, all this stuff-- like, she was just 739 00:39:48,417 --> 00:39:51,291 trying to be happy, like a kid. 740 00:39:54,834 --> 00:39:57,375 I mean, look at this Hello Kitty pencil case. 741 00:39:57,458 --> 00:39:58,667 Come on. 742 00:40:01,125 --> 00:40:03,083 She wrote her name on the inside, 743 00:40:03,166 --> 00:40:06,208 like a five-year-old. 744 00:40:06,291 --> 00:40:09,458 [breathing raggedly] 745 00:40:12,458 --> 00:40:16,500 I'm at a friend's house. 746 00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:19,083 [melancholy music] 747 00:40:19,166 --> 00:40:21,917 I don't know if everyone does this, 748 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,250 or just drug addicts, 749 00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:25,125 but I found this. 750 00:40:25,208 --> 00:40:27,333 ♪ ♪ 751 00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:29,250 This is... 752 00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:31,041 really making me want to 753 00:40:31,125 --> 00:40:35,000 throw away 17 years of sobriety. 754 00:40:35,083 --> 00:40:42,166 ♪ ♪ 755 00:40:45,166 --> 00:40:47,041 Around 14, 756 00:40:47,125 --> 00:40:50,208 my girlfriends and I snuck our first drink, 757 00:40:50,291 --> 00:40:53,750 and I had this amazing feeling of 758 00:40:53,834 --> 00:40:56,166 "I don't know what's wrong with me, 759 00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:59,583 but this is the cure." 760 00:40:59,667 --> 00:41:01,959 I was a blackout drinker... 761 00:41:02,041 --> 00:41:03,959 ♪ ♪ 762 00:41:04,041 --> 00:41:07,000 and I have blackout memories. 763 00:41:07,083 --> 00:41:08,542 I don't remember all the times 764 00:41:08,625 --> 00:41:10,375 she tried to commit suicide. 765 00:41:10,458 --> 00:41:14,709 I--I have memories of when the police would arrive, 766 00:41:14,792 --> 00:41:18,458 but I don't remember the order. 767 00:41:18,542 --> 00:41:23,667 ♪ ♪ 768 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,250 My dad was a heavy drinker. 769 00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:28,041 I drank with him. 770 00:41:28,125 --> 00:41:29,542 That was the only thing I had in common 771 00:41:29,625 --> 00:41:31,208 with my father. 772 00:41:31,291 --> 00:41:33,333 ♪ ♪ 773 00:41:33,417 --> 00:41:37,792 That was not seen as unusual in my house. 774 00:41:37,875 --> 00:41:39,792 ♪ ♪ 775 00:41:39,875 --> 00:41:43,834 And he also introduced me to Percocet, 776 00:41:43,917 --> 00:41:45,333 and he would say to me, 777 00:41:45,417 --> 00:41:47,500 "Want half a Percy, Hopie?" 778 00:41:47,583 --> 00:41:49,333 He would give me half a Percocet 779 00:41:49,417 --> 00:41:51,959 and we would drink. 780 00:41:52,041 --> 00:41:53,500 So many times, 781 00:41:53,583 --> 00:41:55,667 Ruth would be in the hospital, 782 00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:57,000 and he would say to me, 783 00:41:57,083 --> 00:41:59,000 "Just be happy. Have a drink," 784 00:41:59,083 --> 00:42:02,917 and my mom would look at me pleadingly 785 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,583 and say, "You're happy, right?" 786 00:42:05,667 --> 00:42:08,041 and I knew the only answer was 787 00:42:08,125 --> 00:42:10,250 "Yes, Mommy, I'm happy." 788 00:42:10,333 --> 00:42:11,959 ♪ ♪ 789 00:42:12,041 --> 00:42:14,500 - You always did pretend to be happy, 790 00:42:14,583 --> 00:42:16,291 and I know why: 791 00:42:16,375 --> 00:42:19,166 because your mother had a full plate. 792 00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:22,333 Ruthie took so much of her energy and love. 793 00:42:22,417 --> 00:42:24,542 ♪ ♪ 794 00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:27,041 There were so many times that 795 00:42:27,125 --> 00:42:28,709 your mom rescued her. 796 00:42:28,792 --> 00:42:30,583 ♪ ♪ 797 00:42:30,667 --> 00:42:32,458 I know there was one on a ledge. 798 00:42:32,542 --> 00:42:34,542 Wasn't there one that she got on a ledge? 799 00:42:34,625 --> 00:42:41,750 ♪ ♪ 800 00:42:44,083 --> 00:42:46,417 Your mom had no life 801 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:48,625 and apparently, Ruthie couldn't live in 802 00:42:48,709 --> 00:42:50,709 the one we had, she had, 803 00:42:50,792 --> 00:42:53,709 and I felt sad, 804 00:42:53,792 --> 00:42:56,625 and I'm gonna cry. 805 00:42:56,709 --> 00:42:59,667 But, she recovered 806 00:42:59,750 --> 00:43:03,000 to make further attempts, 807 00:43:03,083 --> 00:43:05,792 and, um... 808 00:43:05,875 --> 00:43:09,250 I mean, she just couldn't find her way in this world. 809 00:43:09,333 --> 00:43:16,458 ♪ ♪ 810 00:43:25,125 --> 00:43:27,750 - Hi, I was hoping I could speak with Detective Cozzi. 811 00:43:27,834 --> 00:43:29,208 - You can sit out-- You can sit out and wait. 812 00:43:29,291 --> 00:43:30,458 He'll probably come back. 813 00:43:30,542 --> 00:43:32,250 That's about it. - Thank you. 814 00:43:32,333 --> 00:43:34,583 The woman in the records room 815 00:43:34,667 --> 00:43:38,375 who found--who actually did find the record 816 00:43:38,458 --> 00:43:40,750 basically told me that 817 00:43:40,834 --> 00:43:43,583 there was nothing else I needed to know 818 00:43:43,667 --> 00:43:48,458 and when I expressed that I needed closure, 819 00:43:48,542 --> 00:43:51,000 she recommended that I 820 00:43:51,083 --> 00:43:53,417 seek out the Jehovah's Witnesses 821 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:55,959 at jw.org, 822 00:43:56,041 --> 00:44:00,291 and I was told to come back at 12:00. 823 00:44:00,375 --> 00:44:02,667 - Ruth Litoff? - Yes, that's my sister. 824 00:44:10,625 --> 00:44:13,375 - You're the one that-- - I requested the report. 825 00:44:13,458 --> 00:44:14,834 - Is that correct--the name? 826 00:44:14,917 --> 00:44:16,583 - Yes. - Okay, so here it is. 827 00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:18,166 - It's right here? - Yeah, it's the whole package. 828 00:44:18,250 --> 00:44:19,583 - Thank you so much. - You're welcome. 829 00:44:19,667 --> 00:44:22,709 - I really appreciate it. 830 00:44:32,625 --> 00:44:35,709 What the detective told me was really painful. 831 00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:37,959 He said that my sister died in pain, 832 00:44:38,041 --> 00:44:42,166 and I shouldn't look in the pictures. 833 00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:44,166 I don't know-- 834 00:44:44,250 --> 00:44:45,875 I don't really know how to deal with 835 00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:47,583 my feelings about this. 836 00:44:47,667 --> 00:44:49,709 It's very upsetting. 837 00:44:59,917 --> 00:45:03,125 Thinking about drinking. 838 00:45:03,208 --> 00:45:07,166 I mean, what's the big deal? 839 00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:09,709 I got out of it before. 840 00:45:19,959 --> 00:45:22,208 I just ordered a double vodka on the rocks, 841 00:45:22,291 --> 00:45:24,208 with two olives. 842 00:45:24,291 --> 00:45:25,458 Thank you. 843 00:45:25,542 --> 00:45:27,083 - You're welcome. 844 00:45:29,834 --> 00:45:32,834 [upbeat music playing] 845 00:45:32,917 --> 00:45:39,959 ♪ ♪ 846 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,333 Thank you. 847 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,625 First drink in 16 years. 848 00:46:46,709 --> 00:46:48,667 - Good or bad? 849 00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:49,875 - [whispers] Bad. 850 00:46:51,875 --> 00:46:55,041 [bartender pouring drinks] 851 00:47:08,542 --> 00:47:10,375 - What's that? 852 00:47:10,458 --> 00:47:14,792 - This is like her own version of a Joseph Cornell box, 853 00:47:14,875 --> 00:47:17,750 with little different strange treasures 854 00:47:17,834 --> 00:47:19,667 that mean something to her. 855 00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:20,792 - Through Ruth's eye. - What's this one? 856 00:47:20,875 --> 00:47:22,792 - I don't know. 857 00:47:22,875 --> 00:47:26,208 - Ooh, a Valium. 858 00:47:26,291 --> 00:47:29,917 [laughing] I wonder if it still works. 859 00:47:32,125 --> 00:47:35,709 Look at this tiny baby. 860 00:47:35,792 --> 00:47:38,709 - What's this? - Ugh, an impaled baby. 861 00:47:38,792 --> 00:47:40,792 [mournful music] 862 00:47:40,875 --> 00:47:42,500 I know she was very upset 863 00:47:42,583 --> 00:47:45,333 about having had two abortions. 864 00:47:45,417 --> 00:47:49,834 ♪ ♪ 865 00:47:49,917 --> 00:47:54,083 At around age 14, Ruth was having sex. 866 00:47:54,166 --> 00:47:57,291 She would just take her boyfriend into her bedroom 867 00:47:57,375 --> 00:47:59,417 and lock the door. 868 00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:00,959 ♪ ♪ 869 00:48:01,041 --> 00:48:03,750 I wish my parents had stopped her, 870 00:48:03,834 --> 00:48:05,375 but they didn't... 871 00:48:05,458 --> 00:48:08,125 ♪ ♪ 872 00:48:08,208 --> 00:48:10,792 and eventually, she did get pregnant, 873 00:48:10,875 --> 00:48:13,542 and she chose to have an abortion. 874 00:48:13,625 --> 00:48:18,375 ♪ ♪ 875 00:48:18,458 --> 00:48:20,333 Ruth's best friend's mother 876 00:48:20,417 --> 00:48:22,417 was a producer on "20/20," 877 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,750 and asked her to be on the show. 878 00:48:24,834 --> 00:48:26,542 ♪ ♪ 879 00:48:26,625 --> 00:48:28,333 - We start with a girl. 880 00:48:28,417 --> 00:48:29,875 She lives in New York City, 881 00:48:29,959 --> 00:48:31,250 where she's a high school senior 882 00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:33,458 and a talented photographer. 883 00:48:33,542 --> 00:48:35,709 - When I was pregnant, I really felt like 884 00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:38,542 I had a responsibility to my baby, 885 00:48:38,625 --> 00:48:42,041 even though it was just-- it was just a fetus. 886 00:48:42,125 --> 00:48:44,875 It wasn't really anything. 887 00:48:44,959 --> 00:48:47,709 I always--you know, I watched what I ate 888 00:48:47,792 --> 00:48:49,750 and I just kind of took care of it, 889 00:48:49,834 --> 00:48:53,750 even though I knew that it was gonna go away. 890 00:48:53,834 --> 00:48:56,625 - Of course, she wasn't ready to have a baby-- 891 00:48:56,709 --> 00:48:59,083 she was just in high school-- 892 00:48:59,166 --> 00:49:01,917 but she never forgot about it, either. 893 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,000 ♪ ♪ 894 00:49:05,083 --> 00:49:07,291 - And I remember when she had her abortion. 895 00:49:07,375 --> 00:49:10,417 Did she continue thinking about, like, 896 00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,417 "Oh, if I had had that child"? 897 00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,250 - She just sort of acknowledged that 898 00:49:16,333 --> 00:49:18,208 her depression was going to prevent her 899 00:49:18,291 --> 00:49:20,291 from being able to have children. 900 00:49:20,375 --> 00:49:22,375 I realized from looking at her journals 901 00:49:22,458 --> 00:49:25,458 that that is a huge disappointment for her, 902 00:49:25,542 --> 00:49:26,542 which I never knew. 903 00:49:26,625 --> 00:49:29,208 - Hm. 904 00:49:29,291 --> 00:49:31,917 - She would sometimes represent herself 905 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,208 as damaged goods 906 00:49:34,291 --> 00:49:37,333 and then-- it might say something like 907 00:49:37,417 --> 00:49:38,959 "forever fixed," 908 00:49:39,041 --> 00:49:41,125 and it'd be an image of her holding a baby. 909 00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:43,250 ♪ ♪ 910 00:49:43,333 --> 00:49:47,083 Babies, to her, were a symbol 911 00:49:47,166 --> 00:49:50,291 of good health 912 00:49:50,375 --> 00:49:51,875 and happiness, I think. 913 00:49:51,959 --> 00:49:56,750 ♪ ♪ 914 00:49:56,834 --> 00:49:59,250 When my son, Charlie, was born, 915 00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:02,208 she only had a chance to meet him once. 916 00:50:02,291 --> 00:50:05,291 ♪ ♪ 917 00:50:05,375 --> 00:50:08,000 And if she wasn't mentally ill, 918 00:50:08,083 --> 00:50:10,166 she would've been an amazing aunt. 919 00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:16,875 ♪ ♪ 920 00:50:41,542 --> 00:50:44,083 - She confided in me that she felt 921 00:50:44,166 --> 00:50:46,792 very lost and alone. 922 00:50:46,875 --> 00:50:49,500 ♪ ♪ 923 00:50:49,583 --> 00:50:53,208 - My parents' failure 924 00:50:53,291 --> 00:50:56,500 in being able to help fix her, 925 00:50:56,583 --> 00:50:59,000 or heal her, I just think, 926 00:50:59,083 --> 00:51:02,208 was too frustrating. 927 00:51:02,291 --> 00:51:03,583 - Mm-hmm. 928 00:51:03,667 --> 00:51:05,959 - For her to even, sometimes, be around them, 929 00:51:06,041 --> 00:51:08,917 I'm guessing. 930 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,709 - I know your mom loved her enormously, 931 00:51:11,792 --> 00:51:15,375 but your dad, he-- he was pulling her down, 932 00:51:15,458 --> 00:51:18,709 it seems like, always, and, um, 933 00:51:18,792 --> 00:51:22,208 he--I mean, at one point, she told me 934 00:51:22,291 --> 00:51:24,250 she took a lot of pills 935 00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:26,458 and she ended up going to Bellevue, 936 00:51:26,542 --> 00:51:29,166 and she told me that your father said, 937 00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:30,917 "Next time, jump." 938 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,917 [somber music] 939 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:41,125 ♪ ♪ 940 00:52:06,375 --> 00:52:09,500 It was hard. God, it was hard being Ruth. 941 00:52:09,583 --> 00:52:12,125 So yeah, there were the emergency calls, 942 00:52:12,208 --> 00:52:15,125 emergency dates. 943 00:52:15,208 --> 00:52:17,625 Yeah, it was like being a social worker. 944 00:52:17,709 --> 00:52:21,166 It was a friend-social worker relationship. 945 00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:25,417 It had its rewards and its perks, but it was-- 946 00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:28,458 it was hard to be Ruth, it was hard to be near her, 947 00:52:28,542 --> 00:52:31,792 and, um... 948 00:52:31,875 --> 00:52:34,375 and it was also beautiful at times. 949 00:52:34,458 --> 00:52:37,750 - Her great times were pretty great. 950 00:52:37,834 --> 00:52:40,750 Now, it wasn't like she was just depressed 951 00:52:40,834 --> 00:52:42,458 and alone with her cat. 952 00:52:42,542 --> 00:52:45,792 Like, she had a lot of really sparkling moments as well. 953 00:52:45,875 --> 00:52:47,291 - It was everything. It was the whole-- 954 00:52:47,375 --> 00:52:49,500 you got the whole spectrum with Ruth. 955 00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:51,834 It's like a full Shakespeare tragedy. 956 00:52:51,917 --> 00:52:56,083 ♪ ♪ 957 00:52:56,166 --> 00:52:58,750 It was really fun in, like, the '80s and the '90s, 958 00:52:58,834 --> 00:53:01,125 I'd get a call from Ruth, and she'd be like, 959 00:53:01,208 --> 00:53:02,834 "It's time to do a photo shoot. 960 00:53:02,917 --> 00:53:04,500 We haven't done a photo shoot in a while," 961 00:53:04,583 --> 00:53:06,291 and I was like, "Yeah, that's right!" 962 00:53:06,375 --> 00:53:08,917 I mean, okay, so it was like, teens, 20s. 963 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,792 Like, we both had great bodies, 964 00:53:10,875 --> 00:53:13,375 um, and it was just, like, time to celebrate them 965 00:53:13,458 --> 00:53:14,917 and, like take off your clothes 966 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,041 and put on trench coats and heels 967 00:53:17,125 --> 00:53:20,000 and go on the roof and take pictures, 968 00:53:20,083 --> 00:53:22,500 and we had so much fun. 969 00:53:22,583 --> 00:53:23,834 ♪ ♪ 970 00:53:23,917 --> 00:53:26,709 And she was so open and free, 971 00:53:26,792 --> 00:53:29,875 and she made her subjects 972 00:53:29,959 --> 00:53:31,166 feel that way too. 973 00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:33,041 She was--she appreciated beauty, 974 00:53:33,125 --> 00:53:35,667 and she was so sexy herself, 975 00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:37,458 and she appreciated it. She brought that out. 976 00:53:37,542 --> 00:53:39,875 She brought out sensuality and sexuality 977 00:53:39,959 --> 00:53:42,083 in all of her subjects. 978 00:53:42,166 --> 00:53:45,083 [warm music] 979 00:53:45,166 --> 00:53:47,041 ♪ ♪ 980 00:53:47,125 --> 00:53:49,166 She would seduce everyone 981 00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:50,792 into taking great pictures. 982 00:53:50,875 --> 00:53:52,583 - Every boyfriend I've seen naked. 983 00:53:52,667 --> 00:53:54,875 - Yeah. [laughs] 984 00:53:54,959 --> 00:53:56,750 - One has a better body than the next. 985 00:53:56,834 --> 00:53:59,041 - Exactly, exactly. 986 00:53:59,125 --> 00:54:01,542 ♪ ♪ 987 00:54:01,625 --> 00:54:04,542 Ruth was very exciting, and she gave-- 988 00:54:04,625 --> 00:54:06,875 in terms of artwork, of course-- 989 00:54:06,959 --> 00:54:09,208 and she gave with humor, 990 00:54:09,291 --> 00:54:12,625 and she gave with love, 991 00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:16,125 and she also took 992 00:54:16,208 --> 00:54:17,834 enormous amounts of energy, 993 00:54:17,917 --> 00:54:20,792 and it would take time to recover after. 994 00:54:20,875 --> 00:54:23,458 [tranquil music] 995 00:54:23,542 --> 00:54:26,208 - Ruth was very sensual-- sexual person, 996 00:54:26,291 --> 00:54:29,250 but she always had an insecurity. 997 00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:31,625 It was a bottomless well. 998 00:54:31,709 --> 00:54:34,417 ♪ ♪ 999 00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:41,166 We met in the summer of 1991 in Quogue in a share house. 1000 00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:43,792 Immediately, all the single guys in the house 1001 00:54:43,875 --> 00:54:45,917 were like, you know, just drawn to this-- 1002 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,875 this person. She's beautiful and-- 1003 00:54:47,959 --> 00:54:51,417 you know, and I figured that I didn't have a shot. 1004 00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:57,834 ♪ ♪ 1005 00:54:57,917 --> 00:55:01,500 And once she started shooting me, 1006 00:55:01,583 --> 00:55:03,125 she really helped me 1007 00:55:03,208 --> 00:55:04,834 to see myself in a different light. 1008 00:55:04,917 --> 00:55:07,375 ♪ ♪ 1009 00:55:07,458 --> 00:55:09,625 You know, the effect that she had on you, 1010 00:55:09,709 --> 00:55:12,333 it was brighter than the sun. 1011 00:55:12,417 --> 00:55:14,709 You couldn't help be drawn to that person. 1012 00:55:14,792 --> 00:55:19,041 ♪ ♪ 1013 00:55:19,125 --> 00:55:21,625 - "I wanted Alan." 1014 00:55:21,709 --> 00:55:23,375 - [laughs] 1015 00:55:23,458 --> 00:55:25,750 You know, maybe part of me thought that I could heal her 1016 00:55:25,834 --> 00:55:28,792 and that I could take that pain away from her. 1017 00:55:28,875 --> 00:55:31,208 - Me too. 1018 00:55:31,291 --> 00:55:32,875 - But I couldn't. I--you know, 1019 00:55:32,959 --> 00:55:35,291 I--I couldn't, despite how hard I tried. 1020 00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:37,250 ♪ ♪ 1021 00:55:37,333 --> 00:55:39,792 - She would pull people in close 1022 00:55:39,875 --> 00:55:43,000 and then act in such a horrible way 1023 00:55:43,083 --> 00:55:44,959 that the person had to leave, 1024 00:55:45,041 --> 00:55:48,000 and then she would say, "Why-- why did you leave me?" 1025 00:55:48,083 --> 00:55:55,208 ♪ ♪ 1026 00:56:04,291 --> 00:56:06,583 - She clearly must have thought she was beautiful, 1027 00:56:06,667 --> 00:56:09,125 or was that just her trying to convince herself that she was? 1028 00:56:09,208 --> 00:56:12,208 All the nude pictures of herself and bikini shots? 1029 00:56:12,291 --> 00:56:13,834 - I think-- - I mean, is that a sign 1030 00:56:13,917 --> 00:56:15,625 of insecurity? What is that about? 1031 00:56:15,709 --> 00:56:18,083 - I think that was a sign of insecurity. 1032 00:56:18,166 --> 00:56:21,208 [sorrowful piano music] 1033 00:56:21,291 --> 00:56:26,542 ♪ ♪ 1034 00:56:26,625 --> 00:56:30,041 - I think the self-portrait is very... 1035 00:56:30,125 --> 00:56:31,917 complicated for her. 1036 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,792 ♪ ♪ 1037 00:56:34,875 --> 00:56:38,834 Self-searching, but also wanting to look good, 1038 00:56:38,917 --> 00:56:42,458 and wanting to see what other people would see. 1039 00:56:42,542 --> 00:56:47,041 ♪ ♪ 1040 00:56:47,125 --> 00:56:49,166 I can't tell you the amount of times 1041 00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:52,291 I told her how beautiful she was. 1042 00:56:52,375 --> 00:56:57,917 ♪ ♪ 1043 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,333 Maybe she could see who she was in a photograph 1044 00:57:01,417 --> 00:57:03,417 in a way that she couldn't see 1045 00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:07,333 just by feeling who she was. 1046 00:57:07,417 --> 00:57:11,375 ♪ ♪ 1047 00:57:13,917 --> 00:57:16,417 So this is what I want your help with. 1048 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:19,709 I'm gonna try and bust into Ruth's computer. 1049 00:57:19,792 --> 00:57:21,083 - Wow. 1050 00:57:21,166 --> 00:57:24,083 So what are you looking for on the computer? 1051 00:57:24,166 --> 00:57:27,917 - I don't really know when she wrote her last email. 1052 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,083 [computer chimes] 1053 00:57:30,166 --> 00:57:31,250 Did you just turn it on? 1054 00:57:31,333 --> 00:57:33,625 - No, I didn't touch anything. 1055 00:57:33,709 --> 00:57:35,000 - Maybe Ruth turned it on. 1056 00:57:35,083 --> 00:57:36,166 - Yeah. 1057 00:57:37,959 --> 00:57:40,750 Amazing that it's just-- starts up and it's fine. 1058 00:57:40,834 --> 00:57:44,458 - I need something to make a mouse pad. 1059 00:57:44,542 --> 00:57:45,917 [clicks mouse] 1060 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,750 Is that too small to read? 1061 00:57:47,834 --> 00:57:49,417 - Um, no, it says-- 1062 00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:52,291 - This one says "Bellevue Photos." 1063 00:57:52,375 --> 00:57:55,125 - Wow, how many times has she gone to Bellevue? 1064 00:57:55,208 --> 00:57:57,458 - A lot. - She would commit herself? 1065 00:57:57,542 --> 00:58:02,458 - My memory is it was always after a suicide attempt. 1066 00:58:02,542 --> 00:58:03,875 - Oh, look. - What does it say? 1067 00:58:03,959 --> 00:58:05,333 I don't have my glasses on. 1068 00:58:05,417 --> 00:58:06,959 - It says, "Hi, Ruth. 1069 00:58:07,041 --> 00:58:10,083 "In reading your email from March 3rd, 2008, 1070 00:58:10,166 --> 00:58:14,250 it sounds as though you have secured the light boxes." 1071 00:58:14,333 --> 00:58:16,125 [gasps] 1072 00:58:16,208 --> 00:58:20,917 - These are, like, architect's blueprints. 1073 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,792 I like that she dreamed big. 1074 00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:26,041 - "Bellevue Hospital Center will accommodate your request 1075 00:58:26,125 --> 00:58:29,667 to have your opening reception at the site in spring 2008." 1076 00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:31,333 She was really pretty far along. 1077 00:58:31,417 --> 00:58:33,583 - I mean, she died right after that. 1078 00:58:35,792 --> 00:58:38,083 - That's kind of sad. - Yeah. 1079 00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:43,583 I don't know what my responsibility is, 1080 00:58:43,667 --> 00:58:45,458 as the only person that's left living. 1081 00:58:45,542 --> 00:58:47,250 - I know, but-- - I mean, these are, like, 1082 00:58:47,333 --> 00:58:48,792 records of her life. 1083 00:58:48,875 --> 00:58:50,959 What am I supposed to do with them? 1084 00:58:51,041 --> 00:58:52,166 - Yeah. - Right. 1085 00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:53,583 - [grunts] 1086 00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,875 - I've still been drinking. 1087 00:58:59,959 --> 00:59:01,834 Nobody knows about it, 1088 00:59:01,917 --> 00:59:05,333 but I think it's fine. 1089 00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:08,750 I just need it right now, and then 1090 00:59:08,834 --> 00:59:11,792 when I don't need it, I'll just stop. 1091 00:59:21,208 --> 00:59:24,000 - Hope, what are you doing? 1092 00:59:24,083 --> 00:59:25,583 - I'm looking through the bottles 1093 00:59:25,667 --> 00:59:28,792 to see which ones have pills left in them 1094 00:59:28,875 --> 00:59:31,917 and if any of them interest me. 1095 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,834 - Okay, what do you mean by that? 1096 00:59:33,917 --> 00:59:38,041 - What I mean is maybe 1097 00:59:38,125 --> 00:59:42,709 I can experience what my sister experienced. 1098 00:59:42,792 --> 00:59:44,458 You know what? That's bullshit. 1099 00:59:44,542 --> 00:59:46,333 Maybe I can get high 1100 00:59:46,417 --> 00:59:48,750 off of the pills that she left behind. 1101 00:59:48,834 --> 00:59:54,083 - You know this puts us in a really complicit situation? 1102 00:59:54,166 --> 00:59:55,583 - Two. - Two? 1103 00:59:55,667 --> 00:59:59,917 - Yeah. One is good, two is better. 1104 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,166 Ooh, it's stale. 1105 01:00:05,208 --> 01:00:06,875 I've never taken it before. 1106 01:00:06,959 --> 01:00:08,041 It's a form of Adderall. 1107 01:00:08,125 --> 01:00:11,792 I've never taken it before. 1108 01:00:11,875 --> 01:00:14,667 And there's something about 1109 01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:19,000 the fact that they're Ruth's pills 1110 01:00:19,083 --> 01:00:23,667 that make them feel more special to me. 1111 01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:26,667 - I don't want to be enabling your addiction. 1112 01:00:26,750 --> 01:00:29,625 - Tough shit. 1113 01:00:29,709 --> 01:00:31,667 Seriously. 1114 01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:37,417 Oh, I just wanna feel what she feels, and... 1115 01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:39,834 I just wanna be inside her. 1116 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,875 I think I should see if George can meet me. 1117 01:00:57,166 --> 01:00:58,959 Don't worry about me. 1118 01:00:59,041 --> 01:01:01,125 - I do worry about you. 1119 01:01:01,208 --> 01:01:02,875 [sirens wailing] 1120 01:01:02,959 --> 01:01:05,834 Okay, so are you sober now? 1121 01:01:05,917 --> 01:01:09,083 - I'm not sober right now, no. 1122 01:01:09,166 --> 01:01:11,500 - We had a pact about being sober. 1123 01:01:11,583 --> 01:01:13,625 It's difficult, being in that pact 1124 01:01:13,709 --> 01:01:16,875 and having one person check out of the pact, 1125 01:01:16,959 --> 01:01:20,083 and I need you to know that 1126 01:01:20,166 --> 01:01:22,959 you have responsibilities to people who are living 1127 01:01:23,041 --> 01:01:25,792 right now. 1128 01:01:25,875 --> 01:01:27,959 I mean, it's like your mom died, 1129 01:01:28,041 --> 01:01:29,792 your dad died, Ruth killed herself. 1130 01:01:29,875 --> 01:01:31,500 And this is what's-- - I lived through it. 1131 01:01:31,583 --> 01:01:33,333 - Yeah, and you were sober through all of it, 1132 01:01:33,417 --> 01:01:34,709 so I don't-- I don't really understand 1133 01:01:34,792 --> 01:01:36,208 what's going on. - Okay, well, 1134 01:01:36,291 --> 01:01:38,375 I'll explain it to you. The difference is, 1135 01:01:38,458 --> 01:01:42,000 I became a robot as each person died. 1136 01:01:42,083 --> 01:01:44,667 I took my feelings and I squashed them down 1137 01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:46,834 and I took my feelings and I squashed them down. 1138 01:01:46,917 --> 01:01:49,291 I just was like, "Keep going, keep going, 1139 01:01:49,375 --> 01:01:52,000 keep going," and now, all the emotions 1140 01:01:52,083 --> 01:01:54,917 that I refused to feel while I was sober 1141 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,583 and Ruth was ill 1142 01:01:56,667 --> 01:01:59,208 and all the feelings that I refused to feel 1143 01:01:59,291 --> 01:02:00,709 after she killed herself-- 1144 01:02:00,792 --> 01:02:03,875 I'm feeling them. 1145 01:02:03,959 --> 01:02:06,834 - This is crazy. She's dead. 1146 01:02:14,291 --> 01:02:17,166 - We're gonna start in 1996. 1147 01:02:17,250 --> 01:02:18,709 What do you think of that i-- what does that say? 1148 01:02:18,792 --> 01:02:20,375 - Not very much indeed. 1149 01:02:20,458 --> 01:02:22,875 I mean, it'd be nice if you could balance some of this 1150 01:02:22,959 --> 01:02:24,709 with spending time with your kids. 1151 01:02:24,792 --> 01:02:26,291 - I know, but this is gonna help me 1152 01:02:26,375 --> 01:02:28,000 be a better mom to them. 1153 01:02:28,083 --> 01:02:29,000 - Eventually? 1154 01:02:29,083 --> 01:02:32,917 - I guess not right now. 1155 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,458 Okay, put it up, put it up. 1156 01:02:34,542 --> 01:02:36,083 I just wanna see if it's lined up. 1157 01:02:36,166 --> 01:02:39,500 Why didn't you go all the way up to the ceiling? 1158 01:02:39,583 --> 01:02:42,792 This way, a pattern might be revealed. 1159 01:02:42,875 --> 01:02:44,500 - I just--I just-- 1160 01:02:44,583 --> 01:02:48,041 I think that this is-- I don't really understand it. 1161 01:02:48,125 --> 01:02:49,959 I don't understand what pattern you think you're gonna see. 1162 01:02:50,041 --> 01:02:52,250 You're looking at datebooks that are ten years old 1163 01:02:52,333 --> 01:02:54,417 from a dead person. 1164 01:02:54,500 --> 01:02:56,709 - Not that one. Use this one. - Huh? 1165 01:02:56,792 --> 01:02:59,458 She did her dry cleaning on Tuesday, the 2nd. 1166 01:02:59,542 --> 01:03:02,709 - See? Now you're wondering too. 1167 01:03:02,792 --> 01:03:04,000 - [laughs] 1168 01:03:04,083 --> 01:03:06,750 - And here comes a suicide attempt. 1169 01:03:06,834 --> 01:03:08,959 - "Found in coma, 1:30." 1170 01:03:09,041 --> 01:03:10,333 - Yeah. 1171 01:03:10,417 --> 01:03:12,333 - All right, see you later. - Okay. 1172 01:03:24,625 --> 01:03:27,625 [soft string music] 1173 01:03:27,709 --> 01:03:33,125 ♪ ♪ 1174 01:03:33,208 --> 01:03:35,125 - January '97. 1175 01:03:35,208 --> 01:03:37,250 January '98, January '99. 1176 01:03:37,333 --> 01:03:39,333 February. 1177 01:03:39,417 --> 01:03:41,792 March, April. 1178 01:03:41,875 --> 01:03:43,458 October. 1179 01:03:43,542 --> 01:03:46,834 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004. 1180 01:03:46,917 --> 01:03:48,458 March, March, March, March. 1181 01:03:48,542 --> 01:03:49,834 [whispering] I don't see a pattern. 1182 01:03:49,917 --> 01:03:56,458 ♪ ♪ 1183 01:03:56,542 --> 01:03:59,875 This looks to me like a very manic phase. 1184 01:03:59,959 --> 01:04:02,125 Intense colors, 1185 01:04:02,208 --> 01:04:04,625 and, like, right here, this is a very intense thing. 1186 01:04:04,709 --> 01:04:08,041 It has a woman and it says "Help." 1187 01:04:08,125 --> 01:04:10,375 When she's manic, is that more likely 1188 01:04:10,458 --> 01:04:12,667 that she's gonna try to commit suicide? 1189 01:04:12,750 --> 01:04:16,625 But I haven't been able to find... 1190 01:04:16,709 --> 01:04:20,000 a pattern like that, because sometimes, 1191 01:04:20,083 --> 01:04:23,375 the pages will be very bare and blank, 1192 01:04:23,458 --> 01:04:24,500 for example, here, 1193 01:04:24,583 --> 01:04:26,750 she ends up going to get 1194 01:04:26,834 --> 01:04:28,333 electric shock therapy, 1195 01:04:28,417 --> 01:04:30,250 and she stays there for weeks. 1196 01:04:30,333 --> 01:04:33,041 Depressed, depressed, depressed. 1197 01:04:33,125 --> 01:04:35,000 D, D, D. 1198 01:04:35,083 --> 01:04:36,333 Some "S"s. 1199 01:04:36,417 --> 01:04:37,834 That means "worse than depressed." 1200 01:04:37,917 --> 01:04:39,083 That means "suicidal." 1201 01:04:39,166 --> 01:04:41,125 Oh look, here's another one. 1202 01:04:41,208 --> 01:04:43,208 Big, big red S. 1203 01:04:43,291 --> 01:04:46,041 "Took pills for four days, hoping to die." 1204 01:04:46,125 --> 01:04:49,834 "A good day to die." 1205 01:04:49,917 --> 01:04:53,083 It seems like everything's fine, 1206 01:04:53,166 --> 01:04:54,750 and then, all of a sudden, 1207 01:04:54,834 --> 01:04:56,333 she tried to kill herself, 1208 01:04:56,417 --> 01:04:58,709 and then she gets out, 1209 01:04:58,792 --> 01:05:01,542 and she goes and plays ultimate Frisbee. 1210 01:05:01,625 --> 01:05:04,875 She would write "Belle View"-- beautiful view-- 1211 01:05:04,959 --> 01:05:07,667 so she must have liked it, if that's what she called it. 1212 01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:11,208 She really went from 1213 01:05:11,291 --> 01:05:13,875 wonderful times to horrible times 1214 01:05:13,959 --> 01:05:16,125 very, very quickly. 1215 01:05:16,208 --> 01:05:19,834 Here's a suicide attempt, February 18th, 1216 01:05:19,917 --> 01:05:21,792 which is my birthday. 1217 01:05:21,875 --> 01:05:23,083 "Sorry, Hopie." 1218 01:05:23,166 --> 01:05:29,166 ♪ ♪ 1219 01:05:29,250 --> 01:05:31,834 She often accused me of abandoning her. 1220 01:05:31,917 --> 01:05:33,750 ♪ ♪ 1221 01:05:33,834 --> 01:05:38,417 And I see that I was actually with her a lot. 1222 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,041 ♪ ♪ 1223 01:05:41,125 --> 01:05:42,750 Here's the last one. 1224 01:05:42,834 --> 01:05:45,083 ♪ ♪ 1225 01:05:45,166 --> 01:05:49,583 I found her on Friday the 12th. 1226 01:05:49,667 --> 01:05:51,125 ♪ ♪ 1227 01:05:51,208 --> 01:05:53,000 I don't know that she was alive on the 12th, 1228 01:05:53,083 --> 01:05:56,250 before I found her, or if she predicted 1229 01:05:56,333 --> 01:05:58,250 she would die on one of these days, 1230 01:05:58,333 --> 01:06:00,250 and she made the little circles. 1231 01:06:00,333 --> 01:06:04,375 ♪ ♪ 1232 01:06:04,458 --> 01:06:07,375 And so I don't really know what day she died on. 1233 01:06:17,041 --> 01:06:18,625 - Have you seen these photographs? 1234 01:06:18,709 --> 01:06:20,125 - No. 1235 01:06:20,208 --> 01:06:22,583 - Um, they--they may be upsetting to you. 1236 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,625 Yep. 1237 01:06:25,709 --> 01:06:28,417 And she's with a-- a stuffed animal, there. 1238 01:06:30,375 --> 01:06:33,250 - Yeah, a stuffed animal. 1239 01:06:33,333 --> 01:06:34,959 Can you tell how long she had been dead for? 1240 01:06:35,041 --> 01:06:38,166 - Eh, at least of the order of 24 hours. 1241 01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:47,000 - Someone looks alive 1242 01:06:47,083 --> 01:06:50,583 and then they look really dead. 1243 01:06:50,667 --> 01:06:53,542 - Sometimes death looks stunningly lifeless. 1244 01:06:53,625 --> 01:06:55,083 I think... 1245 01:06:55,166 --> 01:06:56,250 You know, if-- you know, when your memory 1246 01:06:56,333 --> 01:06:57,834 have been embroidering this 1247 01:06:57,917 --> 01:07:00,750 into something, you know, more lyrical and exalted, 1248 01:07:00,834 --> 01:07:03,208 but I'm--you know, emotionally, you know the truth of this 1249 01:07:03,291 --> 01:07:05,458 all the way along, I'm sure. 1250 01:07:05,542 --> 01:07:07,083 - No. I pretend that 1251 01:07:07,166 --> 01:07:08,458 she's still alive. 1252 01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:17,417 [exhales deeply] 1253 01:07:21,917 --> 01:07:27,417 It's like she's with me all the time. 1254 01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:31,917 The guilt that I feel is... 1255 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,917 unbearable, 1256 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,125 and I'm falling apart. 1257 01:07:38,875 --> 01:07:40,750 [sighs] 1258 01:07:42,542 --> 01:07:44,792 This is hard. 1259 01:07:59,709 --> 01:08:01,875 - You're saying "One swig, and I'll never drink again?" 1260 01:08:01,959 --> 01:08:03,792 - One swig, and I'll never drink again. 1261 01:08:03,875 --> 01:08:05,041 - Okay. 1262 01:08:05,125 --> 01:08:06,583 Go ahead. - I'm gonna have a swig. 1263 01:08:06,667 --> 01:08:08,041 - Okay, I'm coming with you. 1264 01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:10,041 - Okay, I'm gonna take a glass. 1265 01:08:10,125 --> 01:08:12,083 - Oh, it has to be out of a glass? 1266 01:08:12,166 --> 01:08:13,667 - Well, do you think your parents 1267 01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:15,083 want me to drink straight from their bottle? 1268 01:08:15,166 --> 01:08:16,333 - [softly] No... 1269 01:08:20,083 --> 01:08:22,250 - I'm really having a hard time. 1270 01:08:22,333 --> 01:08:25,750 - Yeah, I know, but I'm scared, and-- 1271 01:08:25,834 --> 01:08:27,625 and I've been chasing you around all morning, 1272 01:08:27,709 --> 01:08:29,625 trying to make sure that you don't have a drink, 1273 01:08:29,709 --> 01:08:31,000 I can't do that. I can't-- 1274 01:08:31,083 --> 01:08:32,875 I can't follow you around all day. 1275 01:08:32,959 --> 01:08:36,125 - This will be the last time. 1276 01:08:36,208 --> 01:08:37,625 - And I don't know what to do. 1277 01:08:37,709 --> 01:08:38,750 I don't know what the right thing to do is. 1278 01:08:38,834 --> 01:08:39,917 You're not yourself. 1279 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,166 You're a different person. 1280 01:08:58,166 --> 01:09:00,417 Is that how much you want? 1281 01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:03,208 I--you can't be passed out on the airplane. 1282 01:09:09,542 --> 01:09:11,333 - My hands are shaking. 1283 01:09:19,542 --> 01:09:21,041 It's horrible. 1284 01:09:24,542 --> 01:09:27,083 Okay, that's it. 1285 01:09:27,166 --> 01:09:29,208 - I mean, you say-- I know that you say that, 1286 01:09:29,291 --> 01:09:30,583 but, like, I-- 1287 01:09:30,667 --> 01:09:32,834 you forget who you're talking to. 1288 01:09:32,917 --> 01:09:34,834 - What do you mean? - Now, I'm on camera, 1289 01:09:34,917 --> 01:09:37,709 saying "Have another drink," 1290 01:09:37,792 --> 01:09:39,458 and, you know... 1291 01:09:39,542 --> 01:09:42,083 - Right now? - Yeah. I mean, no, 1292 01:09:42,166 --> 01:09:43,709 I'm not saying you should have another drink now. 1293 01:09:43,792 --> 01:09:45,458 - [laughs] - I'm just saying we just-- 1294 01:09:45,542 --> 01:09:46,959 you just--you said, "Can I have another drink?" 1295 01:09:47,041 --> 01:09:48,166 and I said "Okay," and I don't know 1296 01:09:48,250 --> 01:09:49,667 how to feel about that. 1297 01:09:49,750 --> 01:09:51,125 I mean-- - It's the only thing 1298 01:09:51,208 --> 01:09:52,667 that makes me feel better. 1299 01:09:52,750 --> 01:09:54,959 I don't know how to explain that. 1300 01:09:55,041 --> 01:09:56,834 - I understand. - It's the only thing 1301 01:09:56,917 --> 01:09:58,291 that takes the pain away. - You don't need to explain it. 1302 01:09:58,375 --> 01:09:59,750 - I just feel really guilty 1303 01:09:59,834 --> 01:10:01,667 that I'm alive and she's dead. 1304 01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:04,834 - Well, here's my perspective. 1305 01:10:04,917 --> 01:10:06,583 She's been dead for seven years 1306 01:10:06,667 --> 01:10:09,000 and she's sent you to this bar 1307 01:10:09,083 --> 01:10:12,000 from the grave to drink. - [cries] 1308 01:10:12,083 --> 01:10:15,041 I just--I really don't know how to stop. 1309 01:10:15,125 --> 01:10:18,125 - I know. - I know. 1310 01:10:45,625 --> 01:10:47,792 Here's my rehab room. 1311 01:10:58,583 --> 01:10:59,917 The big book, 1312 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:05,583 required reading for all alcoholics. 1313 01:11:05,667 --> 01:11:08,041 Pictures from my kids. 1314 01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:11,750 There's nothing wrong with them. 1315 01:11:11,834 --> 01:11:15,000 Obviously, I'm the one with the problem. 1316 01:11:17,291 --> 01:11:20,917 I always wanted to be the opposite of Ruth. 1317 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,875 You know what? We're not that different. 1318 01:11:40,083 --> 01:11:42,792 I always knew that I felt very guilty, 1319 01:11:42,875 --> 01:11:45,834 and I always knew I blamed myself, 1320 01:11:45,917 --> 01:11:50,250 but I didn't realize how painful it would be 1321 01:11:50,333 --> 01:11:53,709 to have compassion for her. 1322 01:11:57,750 --> 01:12:00,750 [jaunty music over radio] 1323 01:12:00,834 --> 01:12:03,125 ♪ ♪ 1324 01:12:03,208 --> 01:12:04,709 So ask me a question. 1325 01:12:04,792 --> 01:12:06,542 - Where are you--where are you coming from? 1326 01:12:06,625 --> 01:12:07,750 Where are you going? 1327 01:12:07,834 --> 01:12:08,917 [laughter] 1328 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,542 - I have 30 days sober today. 1329 01:12:11,625 --> 01:12:13,250 - Yay. - And I'm going home. 1330 01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:17,083 - How exciting. - Very exciting. 1331 01:12:17,166 --> 01:12:18,458 - You look good. 1332 01:12:18,542 --> 01:12:20,000 - Thanks. I miss you. 1333 01:12:20,083 --> 01:12:21,125 - I miss you too. 1334 01:12:46,959 --> 01:12:51,041 - What do you know about these sort of blueprints 1335 01:12:51,125 --> 01:12:55,500 that she made for a possible display at Bellevue? 1336 01:12:55,583 --> 01:12:57,667 - It was one of the last things that she worked on. 1337 01:12:57,750 --> 01:13:00,333 Uh, she really wanted to do something 1338 01:13:00,417 --> 01:13:04,750 with her flowers in a dead space. 1339 01:13:04,834 --> 01:13:06,959 - Do you think it would be crazy 1340 01:13:07,041 --> 01:13:10,041 to try and make this happen? 1341 01:13:10,125 --> 01:13:13,375 - Are you ready to, emotionally? 1342 01:13:13,458 --> 01:13:15,291 Combining not just the art, 1343 01:13:15,375 --> 01:13:19,291 but the crazy and the hospitals and the whole thing? 1344 01:13:19,375 --> 01:13:20,750 - I don't know. 1345 01:13:22,291 --> 01:13:23,875 You want to help me carry it? 1346 01:13:23,959 --> 01:13:25,625 Thank you. 1347 01:13:29,458 --> 01:13:31,250 [warm guitar music] 1348 01:13:31,333 --> 01:13:32,667 - It's one thing to say, 1349 01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:34,667 "Okay, I think I'm ready to go," 1350 01:13:34,750 --> 01:13:37,417 and open up the storage unit 1351 01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:39,583 and look at her work, 1352 01:13:39,667 --> 01:13:44,125 but this becomes a whole other thing. 1353 01:13:44,208 --> 01:13:47,250 - The difference with this, though, is 1354 01:13:47,333 --> 01:13:48,709 I would be making 1355 01:13:48,792 --> 01:13:51,166 one of Ruth's wishes come true. 1356 01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,208 - Well, that's for sure. 1357 01:13:53,291 --> 01:13:55,667 - And if I could realize that for her, 1358 01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:57,792 I would feel really proud. 1359 01:13:57,875 --> 01:14:05,000 ♪ ♪ 1360 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:20,417 I want to celebrate the good things about Ruth 1361 01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:23,792 and not dwell on the bad things. 1362 01:14:23,875 --> 01:14:30,917 ♪ ♪ 1363 01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:42,709 Okay, so I should change. 1364 01:14:42,792 --> 01:14:49,750 ♪ ♪ 1365 01:14:49,834 --> 01:14:51,208 [doorbell rings] 1366 01:14:52,875 --> 01:14:54,208 Hello. - Hey! 1367 01:14:54,291 --> 01:14:55,792 Hi, I'm Greg Mink. How we doing? 1368 01:14:55,875 --> 01:14:57,208 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 1369 01:14:57,291 --> 01:14:58,291 - Thank you so much for coming over. 1370 01:14:58,375 --> 01:14:59,792 - Not a problem. 1371 01:14:59,875 --> 01:15:03,834 - So, um, I set up the photographs in here. 1372 01:15:03,917 --> 01:15:06,250 - Wow. 1373 01:15:06,333 --> 01:15:08,959 - So, um, 1374 01:15:09,041 --> 01:15:11,333 these are ones that you probably saw with her 1375 01:15:11,417 --> 01:15:13,834 years ago. - Yes. Mm-hmm. 1376 01:15:13,917 --> 01:15:15,834 - There's more in here. - Mm-hmm. 1377 01:15:15,917 --> 01:15:18,375 It's a little dusty, but... 1378 01:15:18,458 --> 01:15:19,834 [laughs] 1379 01:15:19,917 --> 01:15:22,083 Um, I actually have that one on my wall. 1380 01:15:22,166 --> 01:15:23,959 - Mm-hmm. 1381 01:15:24,041 --> 01:15:25,875 - This box has a lot, 1382 01:15:25,959 --> 01:15:27,542 but you could choose which one you could take with you. 1383 01:15:27,625 --> 01:15:30,000 - Mm-hmm. The next one? 1384 01:15:30,083 --> 01:15:31,166 - Mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm. 1385 01:15:31,250 --> 01:15:33,041 - Oh, that's a pretty one. 1386 01:15:33,125 --> 01:15:34,500 We're gonna give you that one, even if you don't want it. 1387 01:15:34,583 --> 01:15:36,333 - Yes. Mm-hmm. 1388 01:15:36,417 --> 01:15:38,083 - You can see, like... - Yes. 1389 01:15:38,166 --> 01:15:40,291 - The scale really makes a difference. 1390 01:15:40,375 --> 01:15:41,333 - Yes. - You know? 1391 01:15:41,417 --> 01:15:43,917 - Mm-hmm. 1392 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,208 - I'm so excited. 1393 01:15:46,291 --> 01:15:47,875 - Uh, we'll meet with-- meet with 1394 01:15:47,959 --> 01:15:49,792 the public affairs people next week, 1395 01:15:49,875 --> 01:15:52,083 and in terms of this show and we'll just give them a-- 1396 01:15:52,166 --> 01:15:53,542 a little background, 1397 01:15:53,625 --> 01:15:57,041 and I think they would be on board. 1398 01:15:57,125 --> 01:16:00,041 [somber piano music] 1399 01:16:00,125 --> 01:16:03,375 ♪ ♪ 1400 01:16:03,458 --> 01:16:04,917 - Like maybe, up to the-- 1401 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:12,125 ♪ ♪ 1402 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,375 - So now you can see some of that detail. 1403 01:16:15,458 --> 01:16:17,709 - Wow, that detail is amazing. 1404 01:16:17,792 --> 01:16:19,959 ♪ ♪ 1405 01:16:20,041 --> 01:16:21,834 - Look at that yellow green. That's like... 1406 01:16:21,917 --> 01:16:23,291 - That's wonderful. 1407 01:16:23,375 --> 01:16:25,875 - Yeah. Get a little bit better sense 1408 01:16:25,959 --> 01:16:27,875 of what we're looking at. 1409 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,417 - Ooh. 1410 01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:31,792 Ooh! 1411 01:16:31,875 --> 01:16:34,083 - Yeah, this one's magical. - Magical. 1412 01:16:34,166 --> 01:16:35,375 - Yeah. 1413 01:16:35,458 --> 01:16:37,709 - Wow. I know she loved this one, 1414 01:16:37,792 --> 01:16:39,625 because she gave it a name. 1415 01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:43,667 ♪ ♪ 1416 01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:46,083 - Yeah? - Yeah. 1417 01:16:46,166 --> 01:16:48,083 - And then, are these logos correct? 1418 01:16:48,166 --> 01:16:49,375 - Yes. - And do you like 1419 01:16:49,458 --> 01:16:51,250 the name and font? - Yes. 1420 01:16:51,333 --> 01:16:52,750 ♪ ♪ 1421 01:16:52,834 --> 01:16:55,625 It just has to look good. 1422 01:16:55,709 --> 01:16:57,166 It has to look as good 1423 01:16:57,250 --> 01:16:59,834 as Ruth would want it to look. 1424 01:17:01,667 --> 01:17:04,542 She had very high standards... 1425 01:17:11,917 --> 01:17:15,250 That were a little hard to live up to. 1426 01:17:21,417 --> 01:17:23,875 I don't doubt 1427 01:17:23,959 --> 01:17:26,834 the artwork and I don't doubt... 1428 01:17:28,875 --> 01:17:30,709 I just-- I just want to make sure 1429 01:17:30,792 --> 01:17:32,375 that I did it right. 1430 01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:48,125 I can carry one. 1431 01:17:48,208 --> 01:17:55,375 ♪ ♪ 1432 01:18:02,208 --> 01:18:04,125 When we were little kids, 1433 01:18:04,208 --> 01:18:06,542 I was her faithful servant. 1434 01:18:06,625 --> 01:18:08,667 ♪ ♪ 1435 01:18:08,750 --> 01:18:10,917 I still feel like I am. 1436 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:17,750 ♪ ♪ 1437 01:18:17,834 --> 01:18:20,792 She always wanted to become one with me. 1438 01:18:20,875 --> 01:18:21,959 Looks good. 1439 01:18:22,041 --> 01:18:23,542 She's in there. 1440 01:18:23,625 --> 01:18:27,875 ♪ ♪ 1441 01:18:27,959 --> 01:18:30,583 My sister made these. - Can I take a picture? 1442 01:18:30,667 --> 01:18:31,834 - You can take a picture. Of course. 1443 01:18:31,917 --> 01:18:34,750 - Cell phone--take a picture. 1444 01:18:34,834 --> 01:18:36,709 - That's cute. - Thank you so much. 1445 01:18:36,792 --> 01:18:38,333 Thank you. - No, thank you. 1446 01:18:38,417 --> 01:18:39,834 I'm glad you're enjoying it. 1447 01:18:39,917 --> 01:18:42,375 That makes me really happy. Thank you. 1448 01:18:42,458 --> 01:18:49,583 ♪ ♪ 1449 01:19:07,041 --> 01:19:08,458 One of Ruth's dreams 1450 01:19:08,542 --> 01:19:11,375 was to have a show at Bellevue. 1451 01:19:11,458 --> 01:19:14,750 I made it my dream to have a show at Bellevue. 1452 01:19:14,834 --> 01:19:16,959 That's not my dream. 1453 01:19:17,041 --> 01:19:19,917 ♪ ♪ 1454 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,917 My dream is something so impossible. 1455 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,083 My wish is that she'd come back 1456 01:19:24,166 --> 01:19:25,792 and be healthy. 1457 01:19:25,875 --> 01:19:33,000 ♪ ♪ 1458 01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:13,291 There is something unique 1459 01:20:13,375 --> 01:20:16,083 about losing someone to suicide. 1460 01:20:16,166 --> 01:20:21,208 It's not really something you're ever gonna get over. 1461 01:20:21,291 --> 01:20:24,667 It's a daily battle. 1462 01:20:24,750 --> 01:20:28,375 It's like you always have a splinter in your hand 1463 01:20:28,458 --> 01:20:30,709 Sometimes you notice it and sometimes you don't, 1464 01:20:30,792 --> 01:20:32,792 but the splinter's always there. 1465 01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:34,625 ♪ ♪ 1466 01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:37,959 You can't destroy yourself over it, but... 1467 01:20:38,041 --> 01:20:40,709 ♪ ♪ 1468 01:20:40,792 --> 01:20:43,500 You can have the splinter and live. 1469 01:20:43,583 --> 01:20:45,417 The splinter's not gonna kill you. 1470 01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:48,417 ♪ ♪ 1471 01:20:50,083 --> 01:20:54,333 - You want to talk about your sister? 1472 01:20:54,417 --> 01:20:57,750 - Um, when I did that portrait of my sister, 1473 01:20:57,834 --> 01:21:00,458 we were in a very good mood and we were very happy, 1474 01:21:00,542 --> 01:21:03,750 but I always knew 1475 01:21:03,834 --> 01:21:05,834 there was something underlying-- 1476 01:21:05,917 --> 01:21:08,041 you know, down inside her-- 1477 01:21:08,125 --> 01:21:12,000 that it just wasn't altogether happy. 1478 01:21:12,083 --> 01:21:13,583 - Do you love your sister? 1479 01:21:13,667 --> 01:21:16,000 - I love my sister very much. 1480 01:21:16,083 --> 01:21:18,250 She's probably the most important person to me 1481 01:21:18,333 --> 01:21:20,458 in the world. 1482 01:21:24,083 --> 01:21:27,041 [mournful music] 1483 01:21:27,125 --> 01:21:34,166 ♪ ♪ 1484 01:22:53,417 --> 01:22:55,542 [bright tone] 95628

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