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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:13,046 [crowd cheering] 2 00:00:28,495 --> 00:00:31,632 ♪ Don't forget where you came from ♪ 3 00:00:31,665 --> 00:00:34,401 ♪ Don't forget what you're made of ♪ 4 00:00:34,434 --> 00:00:37,304 ♪ The ones who were there ♪ 5 00:00:37,337 --> 00:00:40,106 ♪ When no one else would care ♪ 6 00:00:40,473 --> 00:00:43,577 ♪ Don't be afraid to cry now ♪ 7 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:47,714 ♪ Even when the world comes crashing in ♪ 8 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:53,787 ♪ Don't forget to sing when you win ♪ 9 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:03,296 ♪ Don't forget to sing when you win ♪ 10 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:09,436 [whistle blows] 11 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:11,271 [Griffiths] And there is the final whistle. 12 00:01:13,106 --> 00:01:14,608 The fans are on the pitch. 13 00:01:15,076 --> 00:01:18,144 Wrexham Football Club, wow. 14 00:01:18,578 --> 00:01:21,515 [commentator] Drink it in. Enjoy yourselves tonight, Wrexham fans, 15 00:01:21,548 --> 00:01:25,518 because you don't see back-to-back promotions very often. 16 00:01:25,952 --> 00:01:29,356 [Gilpin] Yes. That was the moment we clinched promotion. 17 00:01:29,389 --> 00:01:33,594 The second pitch invasion on the Racecourse in just 12 months. 18 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:39,533 [Edwards] I almost feel like I don't deserve two promotions in two years. 19 00:01:39,566 --> 00:01:42,603 -[commentator] Unbelievable for Wrexham. -Oh, my fucking God. 20 00:01:42,636 --> 00:01:44,738 [chuckling] 21 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,278 We're so fortunate that we keep getting really, really lucky. 22 00:01:51,311 --> 00:01:53,581 -Yeah. -Yes. 23 00:01:53,614 --> 00:01:57,217 We have an incredible foundation of people that keep putting us into positions 24 00:01:57,250 --> 00:01:58,518 where we can get lucky. 25 00:01:59,386 --> 00:02:01,522 But we're getting lucky. 26 00:02:01,555 --> 00:02:04,190 The one thing we did do that I think we planned for and hoped for 27 00:02:04,557 --> 00:02:07,661 was that sort of symbiotic relationship with the community. 28 00:02:08,028 --> 00:02:11,332 The feeling in Wrexham and the club, 29 00:02:11,365 --> 00:02:13,601 the high tide raising all boats. 30 00:02:13,634 --> 00:02:16,770 It just feels, like over the last four years, 31 00:02:16,803 --> 00:02:20,140 it's been this roller coaster of magic. 32 00:02:23,777 --> 00:02:25,713 [Hett] What's the chances then, boys, this season? 33 00:02:25,746 --> 00:02:28,115 We're back in League One. 34 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:32,353 We need to be thankful that we've just been treated to two promotions. 35 00:02:32,386 --> 00:02:34,755 -We know with our brains... -Uh-huh. 36 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:37,324 "...Mid-table. Come on, let's be sensible." 37 00:02:37,357 --> 00:02:41,328 But in our hearts, there's that sneaking feeling of, "Go on, let's do it again." 38 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:43,297 Why can't we do it? Let's be honest. 39 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:46,300 Has anybody ever done, uh, back-to-back-to-back promotions? 40 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:48,602 I don't think they have. I don't think so. But why can't we do it? 41 00:02:48,635 --> 00:02:50,571 -[Blackwell] Yeah. -[supporter] Yeah. 42 00:02:50,604 --> 00:02:52,739 And Rob and Ryan, they like chasing those records, don't they? 43 00:02:53,373 --> 00:02:56,043 [Blackwell] Getting to League One, 44 00:02:56,076 --> 00:02:58,378 is back to maybe our spiritual home where lots of us feel we do belong, 45 00:02:58,745 --> 00:03:01,815 but we've got plans to upsize once again. 46 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:03,484 -Mark my words. -Yeah. 47 00:03:03,517 --> 00:03:05,653 I think we'll win the league. Mark my words. 48 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:07,788 Back-to-back-to-back. 49 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:10,057 Back-to-back-to-back, what do you reckon? Are they gonna do it? 50 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:12,226 -Yes. -There's confidence. 51 00:03:12,259 --> 00:03:14,127 Back-to-back-to-back, isn't it? 52 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:19,532 That's last year. So I want one next year, back-to-back-to-back. 53 00:03:20,066 --> 00:03:22,436 -[fan] More clean sheets. -We're gonna win the league. 54 00:03:22,469 --> 00:03:24,305 We're gonna win the League. 55 00:03:24,338 --> 00:03:26,574 We've won it twice. We can win it again. 56 00:03:26,607 --> 00:03:28,275 [young fan] How am I going to be celebrating? 57 00:03:29,343 --> 00:03:31,378 Probably by cheering 58 00:03:31,745 --> 00:03:38,318 and basically destroying the downstairs drawing room by shouting and screaming. 59 00:03:40,287 --> 00:03:42,623 -[both] Up the town. -[fan 2] We're gonna fight to the end. 60 00:03:42,656 --> 00:03:45,826 No, realistically, we will lose. But-- 61 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:47,561 -Don't put that in. -Why would you say that? 62 00:03:47,594 --> 00:03:49,363 -Fucking Al. Shut up. -Al, come on. 63 00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:50,698 -It's not gonna happen. -We're gonna win every game. 64 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:52,566 Every game this season, we're gonna win. 65 00:03:55,202 --> 00:03:57,304 -[Parkinson] All right, Shaun? -All right, Phil. You all right? 66 00:03:57,337 --> 00:03:59,173 Yeah, good. Yeah, give me two minutes. 67 00:03:59,206 --> 00:04:01,242 [staff member] Hello. 68 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:03,177 [Harvey] Once the euphoria of last season's tremendous performance 69 00:04:03,210 --> 00:04:07,181 sort of subsided and the reality of what ahead of us strikes, 70 00:04:07,214 --> 00:04:11,385 you know, we're in a league this season where we're no longer the biggest fish. 71 00:04:11,418 --> 00:04:13,354 You know, in the National League, 72 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:16,090 we were able to spend more than anybody else to get promotion. 73 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:20,828 In League Two, we were able to spend as much as anybody else to get promotion. 74 00:04:20,861 --> 00:04:22,630 But we're now in the mainstream, 75 00:04:22,663 --> 00:04:25,099 and that mainstream starts to get really expensive. 76 00:04:25,132 --> 00:04:27,468 If we are to get that third promotion on a row, 77 00:04:27,501 --> 00:04:32,106 this will certainly be the biggest and most successful of them all. 78 00:04:32,139 --> 00:04:36,142 Because, you know, we are coming from behind now, rather than being in front. 79 00:04:36,676 --> 00:04:39,179 [fan] But you look at this league now, 80 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:42,316 this has got to be one of the strongest League Ones for the last few years. 81 00:04:42,349 --> 00:04:44,251 -[fan 2] Definitely. -See, we're not the favorites. 82 00:04:44,719 --> 00:04:46,120 We're not the big fish anymore. 83 00:04:46,153 --> 00:04:48,222 We're not the big fish anymore, no. 84 00:04:48,255 --> 00:04:50,291 [fan 2] When you look through the teams, we're up against Wycombe. 85 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:52,426 You know what I mean? 86 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:54,361 Yeah, you look two years, three years ago, they were in the Championship. 87 00:04:54,394 --> 00:04:58,132 We're going to Birmingham City. I've got a ticket to Bolton. 88 00:04:58,165 --> 00:05:00,801 Like, these are stadiums that I was hoping 89 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:04,104 that we'd get an FA Cup draw to go to those games. 90 00:05:04,137 --> 00:05:05,706 League One this year is strong. 91 00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:09,109 There's three teams relegated from the Championship 92 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:11,445 who have got ambitions of going straight back up 93 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,681 to probably where they believe is their rightful place. 94 00:05:13,714 --> 00:05:16,483 One of those is Birmingham, a massive club. 95 00:05:16,516 --> 00:05:19,053 [supporters chanting] Birmingham! 96 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:24,391 Big funding behind it, and their wage bill will be probably 50% more than ours. 97 00:05:26,093 --> 00:05:28,095 Yes! 98 00:05:28,128 --> 00:05:31,198 Birmingham are absolute favorites for promotion. 99 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:33,033 [commentator] Birmingham on the rise! 100 00:05:33,434 --> 00:05:36,270 Now, if Wrexham wanna get promoted to Championship or eventually to Prem, 101 00:05:36,303 --> 00:05:38,138 they're miles off it. 102 00:05:38,171 --> 00:05:40,441 You've got eight ex-Premier League teams in this league. 103 00:05:40,474 --> 00:05:42,676 Wrexham are coming to a league and a playing field 104 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:45,312 where teams have got more money than Wrexham 105 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:48,082 without all the added bonuses that Wrexham have got 106 00:05:48,115 --> 00:05:50,150 through documentary and all these sponsorship of TV deals. 107 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:51,585 Other teams have just got that anyway. 108 00:05:51,618 --> 00:05:53,220 [commentator 2] And it's in! 109 00:05:53,253 --> 00:05:56,123 More importantly, these teams know how to win. 110 00:05:56,156 --> 00:05:57,625 [commentator 2] Unbelievable. 111 00:05:57,658 --> 00:05:59,526 And we all know you can't buy that part. 112 00:06:00,361 --> 00:06:05,799 What does the club need to do as a whole to make itself a Premier League entity 113 00:06:05,832 --> 00:06:08,135 in however long that takes? 114 00:06:08,168 --> 00:06:11,305 Sometimes you don't want to go back-to-back-to-back. That sounds weird. 115 00:06:11,338 --> 00:06:14,174 You need to settle in for a while, figure out what you need to do 116 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:16,043 to get to the next level, 117 00:06:16,076 --> 00:06:19,280 because relegation is always looming, let me tell you. 118 00:06:19,313 --> 00:06:22,449 You always have to worry about the negative financial elements of that 119 00:06:22,482 --> 00:06:26,220 before you lick your lips with the prospect of promotion. 120 00:06:26,253 --> 00:06:28,489 Before you get to the Premier League, 121 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:30,690 you go through the Championship, one of the toughest leagues in the world. 122 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:33,527 So, you know, you've got to build infrastructure. 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,663 The stadium is gonna have to be bigger. 124 00:06:35,696 --> 00:06:38,499 There's no way that the match day revenues 125 00:06:38,532 --> 00:06:41,535 will fund anything that will get you out of the Championship 126 00:06:41,568 --> 00:06:43,270 as it currently stands. 127 00:06:43,303 --> 00:06:46,140 You've got to build the right people at the top. 128 00:06:46,173 --> 00:06:49,042 Building out an academy is absolutely crucial. 129 00:06:49,543 --> 00:06:54,281 From "under six" all the way up to "under 21s," "under 23s," 130 00:06:54,314 --> 00:06:57,084 the system-bringing conveyor belt of talent 131 00:06:57,117 --> 00:07:02,055 that can get you through tough seasons as all of the great clubs do. 132 00:07:02,623 --> 00:07:06,192 I think we are all dreaming of another promotion, you know, back-to-back-to-back. 133 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:08,562 But you could be, you know, there 134 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:11,765 without a proper training ground, without the Kop stand renovated. 135 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:14,435 So, sometimes things can come too quickly, 136 00:07:14,468 --> 00:07:20,006 and I think infrastructure should be top priority over another promotion. 137 00:07:21,541 --> 00:07:23,344 [anchor] Welcome back to Lunchtime Live. 138 00:07:23,377 --> 00:07:26,513 We've got some big news concerning League One Burton. 139 00:07:26,546 --> 00:07:30,284 The club have appointed Fleur Robinson as their new chief executive. 140 00:07:30,317 --> 00:07:33,621 That follows three years in the same role at Wrexham. 141 00:07:33,654 --> 00:07:37,491 [anchor 2] Chief Executive Fleur Robinson is set to leave the club. 142 00:07:37,524 --> 00:07:39,426 You ask how successful she's been. 143 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:41,295 Well, we've been promoted twice. 144 00:07:41,328 --> 00:07:44,531 So overall, her legacy will be, 145 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:49,002 "Thank you for bringing us the club to this point." She did the hard yards. 146 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:52,206 [Harvey] Understand that the area of biggest growth for the club 147 00:07:52,239 --> 00:07:54,007 is going to be in North America. 148 00:07:54,441 --> 00:07:58,412 The teams around Rob and Ryan began the search to bring a new CEO in 149 00:07:58,445 --> 00:08:02,750 who understood the American market, understood football, 150 00:08:02,783 --> 00:08:05,252 and eventually identified the American candidate. 151 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:08,122 News away from the pitch. 152 00:08:08,155 --> 00:08:11,525 New CEO, Mike Williamson, on board is very exciting, isn't it? 153 00:08:11,558 --> 00:08:13,193 [crowd cheering] 154 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:17,064 You've got someone who was chief financial officer at Inter Milan. 155 00:08:17,097 --> 00:08:19,667 Now that is not a job for the faint-hearted. 156 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:24,504 Miami as well. D.C. United. This is one of the big guys. 157 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:28,208 You know, you've worked at soccer at every level, 158 00:08:28,241 --> 00:08:29,743 worked over in Italy for a while at Inter Milan. 159 00:08:29,776 --> 00:08:32,313 -They're drawing enormous crowds. -[anchor 2] Wow. 160 00:08:32,346 --> 00:08:34,748 The philosophy, you talk about some of these global brands, European football... 161 00:08:34,781 --> 00:08:36,684 Sure, they've been around for 100, 110 years, 162 00:08:36,717 --> 00:08:39,486 but they started as community organizations. 163 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:43,457 That skill set, relevant experience both in the US and in Europe. 164 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:45,726 He's been involved in stadium development, 165 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,629 which is obviously a big part of what the club needs to do going forward. 166 00:08:48,662 --> 00:08:51,332 You know, so they felt he was the best person for the job. 167 00:08:51,365 --> 00:08:54,201 Michael's very innovative and understands 168 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:56,203 how to, you know, create the infrastructure 169 00:08:56,236 --> 00:08:59,206 to match the feeling in the town, 170 00:08:59,239 --> 00:09:02,176 but more so in the global scene. 171 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:04,345 We knew that the competition was going to increase 172 00:09:04,378 --> 00:09:06,413 as it always does as you go up a league. 173 00:09:06,847 --> 00:09:11,418 And we knew we had to expand and bring in the right team that can help us grow. 174 00:09:11,952 --> 00:09:14,788 I want to start by giving, you know, some compliments 175 00:09:14,821 --> 00:09:17,157 for what you guys have accomplished. 176 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:20,227 [podcaster] I would say that he comes with a word of warning. 177 00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:23,497 There have been some grumbles on it. He's from America. 178 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:26,333 [podcaster 2] I get what you mean. Some guy who, living half the world away, 179 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:28,302 is giving me instructions, tell me how to do my job. 180 00:09:28,335 --> 00:09:30,738 And I will never use the word "soccer," just so you guys know. 181 00:09:30,771 --> 00:09:32,005 For me, it's football. 182 00:09:33,373 --> 00:09:38,178 And the thing that shocked me most about him is that, you know, 6'2" face. 183 00:09:38,211 --> 00:09:41,148 But I don't know. What, 5'7"? 5'7". 184 00:09:41,181 --> 00:09:42,816 'Cause I only saw him on Zoom 185 00:09:42,849 --> 00:09:45,286 until, you know, weeks into his tenure, and it's just... 186 00:09:45,319 --> 00:09:47,488 I like to collect people who are shorter than me... 187 00:09:47,521 --> 00:09:49,256 Yeah. 188 00:09:49,289 --> 00:09:51,324 ...just because there's not that many in the club. 189 00:09:54,695 --> 00:09:58,132 [Williamson] So what's the name of the club that Daddy works for now? 190 00:09:58,165 --> 00:10:00,134 A dragon. 191 00:10:00,167 --> 00:10:02,135 [Williamson] A dragon. That's right. And the name of him? 192 00:10:03,604 --> 00:10:05,573 Remember? Wrexham. 193 00:10:05,606 --> 00:10:07,474 [child] Wrexham. 194 00:10:07,507 --> 00:10:10,510 My name is Michael Williamson. I am the CEO of Wrexham AFC. 195 00:10:12,779 --> 00:10:15,516 I'm actually an accountant by trade, 196 00:10:15,549 --> 00:10:18,552 but ultimately have been in football for over 20-some years now. 197 00:10:18,585 --> 00:10:20,521 I went from US Soccer Foundation 198 00:10:20,554 --> 00:10:25,192 to become the CFO of DC United, a team in MLS, 199 00:10:25,225 --> 00:10:28,495 and then eventually ended up somehow in Inter Milan. 200 00:10:28,528 --> 00:10:32,099 [crowd chanting] 201 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:35,269 [Williamson] I was there for six or seven years 202 00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:39,472 and ended up finding my wife there, having my daughter born in Milan. 203 00:10:40,841 --> 00:10:42,276 Goal! 204 00:10:42,309 --> 00:10:44,377 -Yay, Benny! -[Williamson] High five. 205 00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:48,549 My next role I was looking for was something where I was building something. 206 00:10:48,582 --> 00:10:52,119 That it wasn't just about a quick flip of an asset, 207 00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:54,455 but actually trying to build something for the club, 208 00:10:54,488 --> 00:10:55,755 for the communities and for my family. 209 00:10:56,289 --> 00:10:58,091 [Williamson's wife] Hey, I see you. 210 00:11:00,627 --> 00:11:03,764 I visited Wrexham during the final game of last season 211 00:11:03,797 --> 00:11:05,565 just to get a sense of what it's like. 212 00:11:07,234 --> 00:11:09,470 No one knew me. I walked around in the club shop. 213 00:11:09,503 --> 00:11:13,040 I went around. I just watched everyone and the excitement and the buzz. 214 00:11:13,073 --> 00:11:14,474 And you can see their passion. 215 00:11:18,445 --> 00:11:21,749 But the best part... The best part was after the match, 216 00:11:21,782 --> 00:11:24,118 everyone kind of went, you know, to different things 217 00:11:24,151 --> 00:11:26,553 to celebrate the promotion. 218 00:11:26,586 --> 00:11:32,058 I just walked down into the town center, and I saw how alive that town center was. 219 00:11:32,592 --> 00:11:35,429 I've been at all levels of football. That doesn't exist. 220 00:11:35,462 --> 00:11:37,364 That just helped me understand and appreciate 221 00:11:37,397 --> 00:11:39,233 that this is for them and for the community. 222 00:11:39,266 --> 00:11:40,800 Yeah! 223 00:11:41,234 --> 00:11:44,037 [Williamson] Moving the entire family here, having a five-year-old, 224 00:11:44,872 --> 00:11:47,408 you know, having a wife who, English is her second language. 225 00:11:47,441 --> 00:11:49,710 It has really been difficult. 226 00:11:49,743 --> 00:11:53,180 It was not easy, but on the other hand, I think it was the right decision. 227 00:11:53,213 --> 00:11:55,582 -Definitely, yep, we're in. -Yes. 228 00:11:56,050 --> 00:11:57,751 There's a lot of expectations. 229 00:11:57,784 --> 00:12:00,220 There's a lot of pressure and just a lot to do here. 230 00:12:07,294 --> 00:12:09,763 We've had some amazing momentum 231 00:12:09,796 --> 00:12:13,267 We've gone from being a non-league club to now being in League One. 232 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:17,371 What we also have to do is support the growth that we've had 233 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:19,039 due to the success on the pitch. 234 00:12:21,642 --> 00:12:24,645 So for that reason, we need to invest in different areas. 235 00:12:24,678 --> 00:12:27,314 Our performance on the pitch is remarkable, 236 00:12:27,715 --> 00:12:31,085 but off the pitch, we need to grow as an organization. 237 00:12:31,118 --> 00:12:34,255 We can arrive in Championship. We deserve to be there. 238 00:12:34,288 --> 00:12:37,758 But it takes just as much work off the pitch to be able to reach Championship 239 00:12:37,791 --> 00:12:40,261 as it does the 11 players on the pitch. 240 00:12:40,294 --> 00:12:42,663 We need a training facility for the first team and the women's first team. 241 00:12:42,696 --> 00:12:48,202 Players come to the stadium, get changed, get in their cars, drive to Colliers, 242 00:12:48,235 --> 00:12:51,572 train, get back in their cars to come back here to shower and change. 243 00:12:51,605 --> 00:12:55,175 You know, we need employees, staff. 244 00:12:55,208 --> 00:12:57,745 People who were with us when we were in National League 245 00:12:57,778 --> 00:13:00,614 are now having to try to take on five, six different jobs. 246 00:13:00,647 --> 00:13:02,616 That's just in League One. 247 00:13:03,017 --> 00:13:04,618 Imagine as we go to Championship. 248 00:13:04,651 --> 00:13:06,286 Imagine as we go to Premier League. 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,491 I think Man U, Arsenal, I think they're around 1,000 employees. 250 00:13:10,524 --> 00:13:13,093 If we're getting up in Premier League in three years, 251 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:15,663 that's probably my worst nightmare in some ways. 252 00:13:15,696 --> 00:13:19,199 Because I think we have a lot to do before we're ready for that. 253 00:13:19,667 --> 00:13:21,101 When we're in Premier League, 254 00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:22,503 we're gonna have football players 255 00:13:22,536 --> 00:13:24,471 looking to drive their Lamborghinis 256 00:13:24,504 --> 00:13:26,473 and their Ferraris down Crispin Lane. 257 00:13:28,542 --> 00:13:32,780 And that is a departure from what Wrexham community is about. 258 00:13:32,813 --> 00:13:35,082 How do we address that? 259 00:13:35,115 --> 00:13:37,451 Are we going to say, "Okay, yes, we want the best footballers," 260 00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:41,188 or do we try to create a philosophy consistent with the community around us? 261 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,390 And that's gonna be a balance that's gonna be challenging 262 00:13:43,423 --> 00:13:45,759 because the community's expecting us, once we get to Premier League, 263 00:13:45,792 --> 00:13:47,094 to be competitive. 264 00:13:47,127 --> 00:13:48,596 The football club part's easy. 265 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:51,498 Building a city is the challenging part. 266 00:13:51,531 --> 00:13:55,302 How do we continue to develop and help grow this community? 267 00:13:55,669 --> 00:13:57,338 That is the biggest pressure 268 00:13:57,371 --> 00:13:59,607 because I know that's what Rob and Ryan expect. 269 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,243 This is a difficult industry because, 270 00:14:02,276 --> 00:14:04,478 you know, it is a lot based on results, 271 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:08,349 and it's not gonna be easy, and it's going to take some time. 272 00:14:08,382 --> 00:14:11,585 Candidly, with my daughter about to turn five, 273 00:14:11,618 --> 00:14:13,454 you know, I don't wanna be moving around. 274 00:14:13,487 --> 00:14:15,522 So I'm hoping for my family side of things, 275 00:14:15,555 --> 00:14:17,091 for my professional side of things, 276 00:14:17,124 --> 00:14:18,592 I will be able to stay with the club, 277 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:21,262 but, at the same time, 278 00:14:21,295 --> 00:14:22,562 anything can happen. 279 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,235 [Gilpin] I want to talk about transfers. 280 00:14:28,268 --> 00:14:31,071 [Edwards] There's been nothing. No activity whatsoever. 281 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:35,209 If there is, you know, the possibility of doing three promotions in a row, 282 00:14:35,242 --> 00:14:37,444 you're gonna need a statement signing. 283 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,247 We're going into a really tough division. 284 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,751 We've got players who've never played at this level consistently. 285 00:14:43,784 --> 00:14:47,053 We've got other players who've played at this level a few years ago. 286 00:14:48,422 --> 00:14:51,225 We wanna maintain the core of what we've created, 287 00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,327 but the challenge is, can we add to that? 288 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,096 [staff member] Come on, then. Get it going. Punch it in. Good. Good. 289 00:14:56,129 --> 00:14:58,098 [Parkinson] We've got a lot of decisions to make in terms of 290 00:14:58,131 --> 00:15:01,268 continuing to bring the right people into the club. 291 00:15:02,369 --> 00:15:07,374 I can't see us being able to get near the likes of Birmingham, Rotherham, 292 00:15:07,407 --> 00:15:09,743 who've spent millions of pounds on players. 293 00:15:09,776 --> 00:15:12,279 Our previous transfer record was 300,000. 294 00:15:12,813 --> 00:15:16,750 They're spending that on a backup goalkeeper. 295 00:15:16,783 --> 00:15:21,255 [Gilpin] If we look at the goalkeeper, that is a pertinent issue. 296 00:15:21,288 --> 00:15:23,624 You know, Arthur Okonkwo's loan has ended, 297 00:15:23,657 --> 00:15:26,727 and it doesn't sound like he will be coming back. 298 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,264 I said to Rob and Ryan that the one player 299 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:33,100 who would be a huge investment for the club going forward 300 00:15:33,133 --> 00:15:35,369 is Arthur. 301 00:15:35,402 --> 00:15:39,573 Of course, you know, there's gonna be a number of clubs vying for his signature. 302 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:41,775 [podcaster] Is Big Arthur gonna stay, do you think? 303 00:15:41,808 --> 00:15:44,445 [Edwards] I hope he signs. At the moment, I just don't know. 304 00:15:44,478 --> 00:15:47,514 Phil Parkinson said Wrexham would, quote, 305 00:15:47,547 --> 00:15:51,218 "Give everything that we've got to get you back." 306 00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:54,588 James McClean, under one of your Instagrams, wrote, 307 00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:57,324 "Sign the contract, big boy." 308 00:15:57,725 --> 00:15:58,792 [crowd laughing] 309 00:15:58,825 --> 00:16:01,095 Ordinarily, for a player 310 00:16:01,128 --> 00:16:05,065 of that potential and that age, you'd probably have to pay 311 00:16:05,098 --> 00:16:07,067 one, maybe two million pounds. 312 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:09,069 [Edwards] I feel like we've seen the last of him, you know, 313 00:16:09,102 --> 00:16:10,571 just 'cause he's got that amount of interest 314 00:16:10,604 --> 00:16:12,640 from Premier League and Championship. 315 00:16:12,673 --> 00:16:16,243 [Gilpin] It goes back to what does Arthur want as a 22-year-old keeper? 316 00:16:16,276 --> 00:16:20,481 Does he want to play, or is he happy to be on the bench for a little bit? 317 00:16:20,514 --> 00:16:24,584 He'll walk into our team, but he won't walk into a Championship team. 318 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,621 Maybe. Maybe. 319 00:16:28,355 --> 00:16:30,724 Anyway, that's just me being a dreamer. 320 00:16:33,093 --> 00:16:35,629 Hi, Wrexham fans, I'm back. 321 00:16:35,662 --> 00:16:39,199 Can't wait to see you all in League One next season. Up the town. 322 00:16:39,232 --> 00:16:40,401 [fans] Okonkwo! 323 00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:42,303 ♪ Arthur, Arthur Okonkwo ♪ 324 00:16:42,336 --> 00:16:44,304 ♪ Arthur, Arthur Okonkwo ♪ 325 00:16:44,905 --> 00:16:47,107 It was a long negotiation process. 326 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:49,610 I did have other clubs higher up. 327 00:16:49,643 --> 00:16:51,211 I wanted to come back to Wrexham, 328 00:16:51,244 --> 00:16:53,180 and I think the fans are a huge part in that. 329 00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:55,349 [crowd chanting] Okonkwo! 330 00:16:55,382 --> 00:16:57,217 The confidence they gave me, that can bring out the most out of a player. 331 00:16:57,250 --> 00:16:59,620 That was a huge factor for me. 332 00:16:59,653 --> 00:17:01,221 -[Williamson] Hold on. - [McElhenney] Well, isn't this fortuitous? 333 00:17:01,254 --> 00:17:02,722 I swear my next call was to Arthur. 334 00:17:04,625 --> 00:17:07,061 You right, Rob? 335 00:17:07,094 --> 00:17:08,629 I'm just so glad that you're as invested in Wrexham as we are in you. 336 00:17:08,662 --> 00:17:11,231 Been invested since I joined, 337 00:17:11,264 --> 00:17:13,667 so hopefully bring some success this season. 338 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:15,603 I swear to God this happened to me. 339 00:17:15,636 --> 00:17:18,239 I was in Los Angeles, and I was walking down the street, 340 00:17:18,272 --> 00:17:20,474 and someone turned to me and said, "Up the town." 341 00:17:20,507 --> 00:17:22,509 I said, "Hey, up the town." He goes, "You better sign Arthur." 342 00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:25,246 [all chuckling] 343 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:26,713 This a guy in Los Angeles. 344 00:17:28,515 --> 00:17:30,750 I was like, "I'm trying, man. Like, I'm trying." 345 00:17:31,518 --> 00:17:34,588 So congratulations. Welcome to Wrexham. 346 00:17:41,228 --> 00:17:44,198 [doctor] All right, Mulls, so just an annual catch-up, 347 00:17:44,231 --> 00:17:45,766 if that's all right with you. 348 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:47,735 Just to go through background. You're not asthmatic? 349 00:17:47,768 --> 00:17:50,037 -No. -No. Any other chest problems? 350 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:52,339 -[Mullin] Any... -You had the injury last year, didn't you? 351 00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:53,741 Chest. Yeah, my ribs, last year. 352 00:17:53,774 --> 00:17:55,442 [Edgerly] But there's no ongoing issues with that? 353 00:17:55,475 --> 00:17:57,210 Nothing before that, no. 354 00:17:57,644 --> 00:17:59,713 We know about the back problem at the moment. Any previous back issues? 355 00:18:00,114 --> 00:18:02,415 -Before the last three years? No. No. -Yeah. 356 00:18:02,849 --> 00:18:05,486 [Mullin] The last three years, I've always had this issue with my back. 357 00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:07,554 Herniated disc, slipped disc, whatever. 358 00:18:08,322 --> 00:18:11,492 And the cartilage was basically pressing on the nerve every time, 359 00:18:11,525 --> 00:18:14,361 so it was constant shooting pains down my legs and stuff, and... 360 00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:16,764 I couldn't really... 361 00:18:16,797 --> 00:18:19,233 Well, I could sprint, but it always hurt. 362 00:18:19,266 --> 00:18:22,202 So I had to find a way to get on with it and just play with the pain. 363 00:18:22,235 --> 00:18:24,171 Basically coping with it fine, 364 00:18:24,204 --> 00:18:27,140 and then going into summer, it was hurting more than usual. 365 00:18:28,475 --> 00:18:30,311 [winces] 366 00:18:30,344 --> 00:18:31,712 [Edgerly] Take some deep breaths in there if you can. 367 00:18:31,745 --> 00:18:33,480 [Mullin] I got it scanned at the end of May. 368 00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:36,083 The surgeon, he told me it had obviously doubled in size 369 00:18:36,116 --> 00:18:39,520 and I was at risk of losing all feeling in my left leg 370 00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:40,720 if I carried on. 371 00:18:41,188 --> 00:18:43,457 [Harvey] You know, a big decision needed to be made. 372 00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:45,125 And, obviously, the medical professionals 373 00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:47,093 decided that he needed an operation on his back. 374 00:18:49,262 --> 00:18:52,132 Obviously, the downside of that was gonna be that 375 00:18:52,165 --> 00:18:55,469 he's gonna miss the whole preseason and the start of the season as well. 376 00:18:55,502 --> 00:18:57,504 Wanna lie back on it and I'll move it back slowly? 377 00:18:57,537 --> 00:19:00,441 Getting there easier... a lot easier if I just do it myself. 378 00:19:00,474 --> 00:19:04,511 There is no time frame on Paul Mullin's return. 379 00:19:04,544 --> 00:19:07,047 It means, Nate, that for the second season in a row, 380 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,750 Wrexham will most likely go into the League campaign 381 00:19:09,783 --> 00:19:12,052 without Paul Mullin starting up front. 382 00:19:25,232 --> 00:19:28,168 [Edwards] Wrexham are heading over to North America again. 383 00:19:28,201 --> 00:19:30,437 This time for the Wrex Coast preseason tour. 384 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:31,805 California is up first, Andy. 385 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,807 [Gilpin] Yeah, excited about this. 386 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,743 Women's side will be joining the men for the first time. 387 00:19:35,776 --> 00:19:38,145 I don't think they've ever played a match on US soil. 388 00:19:38,178 --> 00:19:39,680 [Edwards] Yeah, they deserve it. 389 00:19:39,713 --> 00:19:41,482 The women's side have been building steadily, 390 00:19:41,515 --> 00:19:43,049 and it'll be great to build their profile too. 391 00:19:48,121 --> 00:19:50,224 -What's up, Wrex? -[Polka] Of course the team 392 00:19:50,257 --> 00:19:52,459 being here in the United States, we just wanted to 393 00:19:52,492 --> 00:19:55,729 show you the love that this country has for you all. 394 00:19:55,762 --> 00:19:59,767 We're here at Andy Cannon's housewarming party... 395 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:05,339 Very soon into us arriving to LA, we had a red carpet event. 396 00:20:05,372 --> 00:20:07,207 We all were suited and booted. 397 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,676 It's getting real now we're out here. 398 00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:10,410 The excitement is starting to kick in now. 399 00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:15,182 We have really, really high ambitions. 400 00:20:15,215 --> 00:20:17,618 We need to take advantage of what we have built. 401 00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:19,353 Build on that success, 402 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:22,222 And that means building our large, global fanbase. 403 00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:25,693 Going from non-league to League One is much less of a gap 404 00:20:25,726 --> 00:20:27,494 than it is going from League One 405 00:20:27,527 --> 00:20:29,363 to the Championship to the Premier League. 406 00:20:29,396 --> 00:20:31,332 [commentator 1] And there's the final whistle 407 00:20:31,365 --> 00:20:33,600 and exactly what we hoped that this match would be. 408 00:20:34,701 --> 00:20:39,439 [commentator 2] Sixty-three places separating Chelsea and Wrexham. 409 00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:41,709 [commentator 1] There's players on Chelsea 410 00:20:41,742 --> 00:20:44,445 that make more than the value of the Wrexham club. 411 00:20:44,478 --> 00:20:46,480 [commentator 2] Oh! It's a great finish! 412 00:20:46,513 --> 00:20:48,482 [Parkinson] Playing against the Premiership teams, 413 00:20:48,515 --> 00:20:50,718 felt we acquitted ourselves really well. 414 00:20:50,751 --> 00:20:52,753 [commentator 2] A 2-2 draw against Premier League opposition. 415 00:20:52,786 --> 00:20:56,189 We are going to compete. Well, we're hoping to. 416 00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:04,098 The Whitecaps have a friendly match scheduled this weekend with Wrexham AFC, 417 00:21:04,131 --> 00:21:08,568 the Welsh football club co-owned by Vancouver actor Ryan Reynolds. 418 00:21:09,503 --> 00:21:14,808 Wrexham playing the Vancouver Whitecaps was one of those "pinch me" moments 419 00:21:14,841 --> 00:21:19,179 that I will never, as long as I live, forget. 420 00:21:19,646 --> 00:21:21,014 [crowd cheers] 421 00:21:21,615 --> 00:21:24,485 BC Place is the stadium that I went to as a kid. 422 00:21:24,518 --> 00:21:27,087 I've been to BC Place maybe a hundred times in my life, 423 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,324 and I've always sat way up in the nosebleeds with my dad. 424 00:21:30,357 --> 00:21:34,060 And here I am, in BC Place with my daughter. 425 00:21:34,661 --> 00:21:38,632 And I'm in the owner's box and then, you know, spanking 'em. 426 00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:40,066 That felt pretty good too. 427 00:21:41,134 --> 00:21:43,303 [commentator] Hits the far post, and what a header. 428 00:21:44,838 --> 00:21:47,408 ...foot towards goal, and it's a third. 429 00:21:47,441 --> 00:21:50,077 Back in the middle. On the volley. What a goal! 430 00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:51,612 -Jordan Davies. Nice. -[McElhenney] Jordan. 431 00:21:51,645 --> 00:21:53,246 This team looks pretty good. 432 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,823 [announcer] Welcome to the first ever Wrexham AFC Women's Wrex Coast Tour. 433 00:22:02,856 --> 00:22:04,257 Let's hear it! 434 00:22:04,624 --> 00:22:06,460 [McElhenney] I just want to say thank you 435 00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:09,596 for helping us kick off this amazing and historic tour. 436 00:22:09,997 --> 00:22:12,499 Going out to the US is just an absolute dream. 437 00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:14,401 We want to challenge ourselves. 438 00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:17,304 We want to see where we fare in relation to teams in the US. 439 00:22:24,511 --> 00:22:29,149 The profile of players out in the US, they're very athletic. That shows. 440 00:22:29,717 --> 00:22:32,052 [commentator] Goal for SoCal FC. 441 00:22:32,419 --> 00:22:35,055 They work on things technically so much, 442 00:22:35,088 --> 00:22:38,292 because they have the opportunity and resources to do so. 443 00:22:38,325 --> 00:22:40,361 More than what we do. 444 00:22:40,394 --> 00:22:45,065 [commentator] Tigres Femenil, six. Wrexham AFC Women, one. 445 00:22:45,533 --> 00:22:48,435 We struggled in the games, and we weren't where we wanted to be. 446 00:22:49,369 --> 00:22:51,472 I remember Rob telling us 447 00:22:51,505 --> 00:22:53,073 it was looking like it was gonna be a big attendance at Portland, 448 00:22:53,106 --> 00:22:55,276 and I was like, "What do you see as big?" 449 00:22:55,309 --> 00:22:57,711 And he said, "We're looking at 10,000." 450 00:23:02,349 --> 00:23:04,317 I've got goose bumps walking out. 451 00:23:04,718 --> 00:23:09,556 To be doing this for women's sport and to be giving little, young girls in Wrexham 452 00:23:09,589 --> 00:23:15,128 something to look forward to is something that I'm so proud of and grateful of. 453 00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:22,336 But then, yeah, we were quickly kind of humbled to the fact, 454 00:23:22,369 --> 00:23:25,772 okay, these guys are here to show us what American football is about. 455 00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:29,709 Just felt like we never really kind of got into the game. 456 00:23:30,744 --> 00:23:32,680 [Davies] We would be lying 457 00:23:32,713 --> 00:23:34,181 if we said we weren't disappointed with those results. 458 00:23:34,214 --> 00:23:36,717 Nobody goes out to lose, but, you know, 459 00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:40,687 the lessons and how much we've learnt from that is invaluable, really. 460 00:23:41,255 --> 00:23:44,325 Visibility for Wrexham Women is important, 461 00:23:44,358 --> 00:23:47,761 and it's important for women's football in general. 462 00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:49,697 It's a rising game, 463 00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:52,732 and the more supporters that the game can get, the better. 464 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:57,471 Okay, they're of much better quality, but we know where we need to be now. 465 00:23:57,504 --> 00:23:59,540 You know, we're resilient as Wrexham Women. 466 00:23:59,573 --> 00:24:02,076 We just... honestly, we can't wait to get going now. 467 00:24:02,109 --> 00:24:04,010 We just don't want to get beat again. 468 00:24:05,011 --> 00:24:08,749 [Ker] Our women's team faced some serious challenges on the US tour, 469 00:24:08,782 --> 00:24:11,585 But something that was made very clear was the stark difference 470 00:24:11,618 --> 00:24:14,722 both developmentally and economically in Welsh women's football 471 00:24:14,755 --> 00:24:17,057 versus a lot of women's football worldwide. 472 00:24:17,858 --> 00:24:19,627 We've got some catching up to do. 473 00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:22,630 Nonetheless, the women learned a lot on this trip. 474 00:24:22,663 --> 00:24:25,432 They even learned a little bit about how to deal with controversy, 475 00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:27,267 with Rosie at the center of one. 476 00:24:29,836 --> 00:24:33,807 I got asked the question of what do I think of LA? 477 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,580 I thought in my head, "Uh, well, I've only flew to LA, been in the hotel. 478 00:24:39,613 --> 00:24:41,148 I've not really seen LA that much. 479 00:24:41,181 --> 00:24:42,616 Right, just give them something." 480 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:45,619 I am now stood here in LA, like, come on. 481 00:24:45,652 --> 00:24:47,755 Have you seen the amazing looking cars, 482 00:24:47,788 --> 00:24:50,090 -the buildings, the people? -[interviewer] I know. 483 00:24:50,123 --> 00:24:52,359 -It's beautiful. It is not like Wrexham. -[interviewer] Overwhelming. 484 00:24:52,392 --> 00:24:55,496 You know, I was walking down the street and there was, like, these flowers 485 00:24:55,529 --> 00:24:58,766 -and there's, like, a park of cactus. -[interviewer] Yeah. 486 00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:01,335 You wouldn't see that at Wrexham 'cause unfortunately it gets destroyed, 487 00:25:01,368 --> 00:25:03,604 but out here, there's so much respect, 488 00:25:03,637 --> 00:25:05,705 and I've got a lot of respect for people that respect their country, you know? 489 00:25:09,509 --> 00:25:12,346 [podcaster] Full disclaimer, no cactuses were harmed 490 00:25:12,379 --> 00:25:14,214 in the making of today's episode. 491 00:25:14,247 --> 00:25:16,317 Yeah, I get the joke, it's just... 492 00:25:16,350 --> 00:25:20,621 You can tell by my face, it's stone, what I thought about it. 493 00:25:20,654 --> 00:25:23,723 Can say from my experiences, I've never seen a beaten up flower bed. 494 00:25:24,691 --> 00:25:28,495 [sighs] It's so hard for me as a Wrexham girl to kind of defend what she said, 495 00:25:28,528 --> 00:25:33,100 and I can understand why people are angry at her, but we all make mistakes, 496 00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:36,270 and I think she recognizes possibly she used the wrong words. 497 00:25:36,303 --> 00:25:40,040 But again, none of us are prepared for that and the aftermath was tough. 498 00:25:42,242 --> 00:25:48,315 We knew the media could be a rough place, but the scale of the reaction was scary. 499 00:25:49,116 --> 00:25:54,321 I understand people wanting to be protective of their own cities. 500 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:59,727 However, I do slightly think that it was sort of an opportunity to bash somebody 501 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,297 A, who's associated with the football club, B, who's a woman 502 00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:07,067 and C, who they feel should be taken down a peg or two 503 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:11,171 because Rosie's rarely short of confidence in her own abilities. 504 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,044 [Hughes] What hurt me the most, because I was hurt, 505 00:26:17,077 --> 00:26:20,513 was I'd let myself down, but I felt like I'd let the people of Wrexham down. 506 00:26:22,249 --> 00:26:25,486 Like, I live in Wrexham. I bought a house in Wrexham. 507 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:30,591 I love Wrexham and the community of people that made me feel so supported 508 00:26:30,624 --> 00:26:33,294 and so secure and so safe that I felt like, 509 00:26:33,327 --> 00:26:36,396 in 30 seconds, I had just thrown that all away. 510 00:26:37,431 --> 00:26:40,334 It gets your hackles up a bit, you know, I won't lie, 511 00:26:40,367 --> 00:26:42,736 but it's turned into a bit of a witch hunt. 512 00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:46,473 You know, daft stuff like, "She should never wear this shirt again." 513 00:26:46,506 --> 00:26:48,609 -You're talking about someone... -Yeah. 514 00:26:48,642 --> 00:26:52,412 ...who has contributed more than a hundred goals for the women's team. 515 00:26:52,813 --> 00:26:55,416 All I wanna do now is be better at my football, 516 00:26:55,449 --> 00:26:59,219 show people that you can be proud of me again, you know? 517 00:26:59,252 --> 00:27:03,290 And I will go out and prove that I'll do Wrexham right again. 518 00:27:12,566 --> 00:27:14,134 [Ker] Hello. 519 00:27:14,167 --> 00:27:16,203 [Mulholland] Hello, Humphrey. How are you? 520 00:27:16,236 --> 00:27:18,205 Uh, nervous. 521 00:27:18,238 --> 00:27:20,374 -[Mulholland] Nervous? Why you nervous? -Full of trepidation, 522 00:27:20,407 --> 00:27:23,577 -'cause you're gonna test me. -Tell us why we're here. 523 00:27:23,610 --> 00:27:27,681 Thanks to the generosity of our co-owners, 524 00:27:27,714 --> 00:27:32,219 I am running a marathon in April, to raise money for Wrexham Miners Project. 525 00:27:32,252 --> 00:27:34,588 Yeah, so I'm patron of Wrexham Miners Project, 526 00:27:34,621 --> 00:27:39,660 fantastic charity in Wrexham that is preserving Wrexham's mining heritage, 527 00:27:39,693 --> 00:27:42,496 but also in the here and now is doing amazing things in the community. 528 00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:44,698 And unfortunately, at their annual general meeting, 529 00:27:44,731 --> 00:27:48,168 I said that I would make sure the club raised £250,000, 530 00:27:48,201 --> 00:27:51,138 and if we were in danger of not doing that, I would run a marathon. 531 00:27:51,171 --> 00:27:53,340 Unfortunately, the bosses got wind of this. 532 00:27:53,373 --> 00:27:56,644 Actually, Humph, we have an agenda item that we'd like to kick off with. 533 00:27:56,677 --> 00:27:59,179 Yeah, we'd really like to discuss this, um... 534 00:27:59,212 --> 00:28:01,682 [Ker] The aim is £250,000. 535 00:28:01,715 --> 00:28:04,285 I'm hoping we'll get there without me having to run a marathon, 536 00:28:04,318 --> 00:28:09,256 which is the elements of it that I'm a bit nervous may have to come to pass, 537 00:28:09,289 --> 00:28:12,359 but if that's what it takes, then you heard it here first. 538 00:28:12,392 --> 00:28:16,830 -[Reynolds] We wanna help. -We're going to donate £26,200 each 539 00:28:16,863 --> 00:28:20,801 and cheer you on every step of that marathon you pledged on camera to run. 540 00:28:20,834 --> 00:28:22,102 -[Reynolds] Right. -Great. 541 00:28:23,337 --> 00:28:27,575 I suppose you're gonna film the marathon too? Yeah, yeah. 542 00:28:27,608 --> 00:28:29,209 I think we all know the answer to that. 543 00:28:29,242 --> 00:28:30,778 You're in a documentary. 544 00:28:30,811 --> 00:28:34,048 For them it's ideal. The Venn diagram is a circle. 545 00:28:34,081 --> 00:28:37,585 They get to do something good and make me suffer. 546 00:28:37,618 --> 00:28:40,120 -What marathon are you running? -[Ker] Manchester Marathon. 547 00:28:40,153 --> 00:28:42,789 -Manchester Marathon. And when is it? -April 27th. 548 00:28:43,423 --> 00:28:46,160 Have you got any goals in mind? 549 00:28:46,193 --> 00:28:47,261 [Ker] Finishing. 550 00:28:47,294 --> 00:28:48,562 -Finishing. -Yeah. 551 00:28:48,595 --> 00:28:51,265 -Without falling down dead. -Okay. 552 00:28:51,298 --> 00:28:52,800 What did you run it in last year? 553 00:28:52,833 --> 00:28:56,136 I ran 4:34. 554 00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:57,571 Yeah, you ran it hungover, I believe. 555 00:28:57,604 --> 00:28:59,173 Slightly. 556 00:28:59,206 --> 00:29:01,208 Okay, 4:33, that's what I'm aiming for. 557 00:29:01,241 --> 00:29:02,276 Okay. 558 00:29:02,309 --> 00:29:04,378 Listen, you can walk it. 559 00:29:04,411 --> 00:29:07,615 And you still get a medal, and you still get a little pat on the back. 560 00:29:07,648 --> 00:29:12,686 And then for your weight, we need you down into your boxers please. 561 00:29:12,719 --> 00:29:15,055 -[Ker] No. -Please. 562 00:29:15,088 --> 00:29:19,460 I... No. I'm not doing it. This is a very light T-shirt. 563 00:29:19,493 --> 00:29:22,263 It would be good, right, because what we can do is, 564 00:29:22,296 --> 00:29:24,465 we can have a look at you now, 565 00:29:24,498 --> 00:29:26,734 and then we can see your transformation in a couple of months' time. 566 00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:28,235 [groaning] 567 00:29:28,268 --> 00:29:30,704 I hate this. Okay, fine. Fine. 568 00:29:30,737 --> 00:29:33,140 If he goes under four hours, 569 00:29:33,173 --> 00:29:38,712 I will, on camera, massage his feet for 15 straight minutes. 570 00:29:38,745 --> 00:29:43,350 266.6. It's the mark of the double devil. 571 00:29:43,383 --> 00:29:45,452 That is a devil, isn't it? 572 00:29:45,485 --> 00:29:49,189 [Reynolds] Bare hands, no gloves. No washing his feet. Nothing. 573 00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:52,293 I'll raw-dog his feet. With my hands. 574 00:29:52,326 --> 00:29:53,727 Test his aerobic fitness. 575 00:29:54,395 --> 00:29:57,298 [automated instructor] The test begins in five seconds. 576 00:29:57,331 --> 00:29:58,765 From the first beep you can go. 577 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,434 -[speaker beeps] -Yeah. 578 00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:04,571 [♪ triumphant music] 579 00:30:09,209 --> 00:30:10,644 -[speaker beeps] -Drive, drive. Let's go. 580 00:30:10,677 --> 00:30:12,379 -Come on, come on. come on. -[Ker pants] 581 00:30:13,714 --> 00:30:15,749 [♪ music slows, distorts] 582 00:30:18,585 --> 00:30:20,788 [Ker] Jesus Christ. 583 00:30:20,821 --> 00:30:22,523 Much quicker this, Humphrey, come on. You're gonna have to go quicker. 584 00:30:22,556 --> 00:30:24,158 [speaker beeps] 585 00:30:24,191 --> 00:30:25,492 -A little bit quicker this one. - One. 586 00:30:28,862 --> 00:30:32,066 It feels rubbish. I hate it. I hate them. 587 00:30:32,099 --> 00:30:33,434 [chuckles] 588 00:30:33,467 --> 00:30:34,634 [Ker] I hate Rob and Ryan. 589 00:30:35,902 --> 00:30:40,073 That's not got much to do with running really. It's just getting to know them. 590 00:30:40,574 --> 00:30:42,610 -I don't like it. -[crew member] What's the temperature? 591 00:30:42,643 --> 00:30:44,745 -[Mulholland] You're going in. -Hey, Kevin! Get off me! 592 00:30:44,778 --> 00:30:46,012 [Ker groans] 593 00:30:46,947 --> 00:30:49,683 And after this I'm, like, ready for the marathon, right? 594 00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:51,618 Jesus Christ. 595 00:30:52,552 --> 00:30:53,620 [sighs] 596 00:31:02,362 --> 00:31:03,430 [McHugh] Forward. 597 00:31:05,332 --> 00:31:06,533 Hand brake off. 598 00:31:07,167 --> 00:31:10,337 I'm Rebecca. I was able to start a small business this year 599 00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:11,805 called Meet Me in the Morning. 600 00:31:11,838 --> 00:31:16,377 I'm a mobile barista. Coffee shop on wheels. 601 00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:20,114 Let's get a drink, and we'll be ready for anything. 602 00:31:20,147 --> 00:31:22,116 [McHugh] I tow a horse box, 603 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:25,286 and I serve coffee, hot drinks, and a selection of baked goods. 604 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:28,255 -This is my mum at the back, Joy. -Hi. 605 00:31:28,288 --> 00:31:30,591 -And then this is my sister, Caitlin. -Hello. 606 00:31:30,624 --> 00:31:33,527 [McHugh] I grew up in Wrexham, went to school here. 607 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,163 And to be there is wonderful. 608 00:31:36,196 --> 00:31:38,432 I always dreamed of having my own business. 609 00:31:38,465 --> 00:31:40,768 I always wanted to do something of my own. 610 00:31:40,801 --> 00:31:43,571 In university, I did hospitality business management. 611 00:31:43,604 --> 00:31:46,507 I have such a passion for genuine hospitality. 612 00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:50,578 That was my dream, to open a restaurant where people could have a good time 613 00:31:50,611 --> 00:31:52,546 because then you don't feel like you're at work. 614 00:31:52,579 --> 00:31:55,115 -We do work well together, don't we? -[McHugh] Yeah, we do. 615 00:31:55,148 --> 00:31:57,417 We have to in a space like this. 616 00:31:58,018 --> 00:32:03,524 Like everybody my age really, we all went to Manchester or Liverpool for university. 617 00:32:03,557 --> 00:32:06,226 So many of us didn't come back. 618 00:32:06,259 --> 00:32:08,662 Everyone's got jobs other places. 619 00:32:08,695 --> 00:32:11,098 But that was never gonna be home. 620 00:32:11,131 --> 00:32:14,635 Like, I didn't have my people there, and I knew I wanted to come home. 621 00:32:14,668 --> 00:32:17,238 But it's always been a theme. 622 00:32:17,271 --> 00:32:20,608 If people want opportunities, they need to be somewhere else rather than Wrexham. 623 00:32:20,641 --> 00:32:22,576 But that just is not the case anymore. 624 00:32:23,244 --> 00:32:30,050 To be able to do what she wants to do, very few people get that opportunity. 625 00:32:30,083 --> 00:32:32,419 This is how, Mum. This. The support. 626 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,256 Well, of course we support you. 627 00:32:35,289 --> 00:32:38,826 We are Wrexham fans. If we can stand by that team 628 00:32:38,859 --> 00:32:43,464 in the pouring rain on a Tuesday night, we can support anybody. 629 00:32:43,497 --> 00:32:46,567 [McHugh] I didn't have the money to go and buy a shop. 630 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,669 So I thought if I started mobile, 631 00:32:48,702 --> 00:32:52,639 I could build up the funds to move into a space like that. 632 00:32:54,474 --> 00:32:57,244 I never imagined that the horse box 633 00:32:57,277 --> 00:33:01,282 would be going into one of the oldest football stadiums in the world. 634 00:33:01,315 --> 00:33:05,653 Ever. To be invited in is beyond an honor. 635 00:33:05,686 --> 00:33:07,688 There we go. Thank you. 636 00:33:07,721 --> 00:33:11,425 Tourism in Wrexham had this huge boom, and it's been wonderful. 637 00:33:11,458 --> 00:33:12,760 How long are you here for? 638 00:33:12,793 --> 00:33:15,162 We leave tomorrow. We did Scotland... 639 00:33:15,195 --> 00:33:17,464 [McHugh] Now you walk through town, so many more restaurants have opened. 640 00:33:17,497 --> 00:33:20,834 People are so proud now to say, "I'm from Wrexham." 641 00:33:20,867 --> 00:33:23,103 There's a hot chocolate for you there, madam. 642 00:33:23,136 --> 00:33:25,272 It has been very scary. 643 00:33:25,305 --> 00:33:28,542 And I think there was a lot of times I was thinking, "What am I doing?" 644 00:33:28,575 --> 00:33:30,343 Like the day I left my job. 645 00:33:31,411 --> 00:33:35,649 It's just the risk of those cynical people being proven right. 646 00:33:35,682 --> 00:33:42,089 I didn't want to fail. But touch wood, so far, yeah, it's worked. 647 00:33:42,122 --> 00:33:45,192 And I'm... I can't recommend it enough 648 00:33:45,225 --> 00:33:47,427 that if you've got something, you just need to do it. 649 00:33:49,229 --> 00:33:52,633 Definitely my heart is here, this is where I want to be. 650 00:33:52,666 --> 00:33:55,269 The community have been behind me. 651 00:33:55,302 --> 00:33:59,773 It would have never have been the success that it has without the people of Wrexham. 652 00:33:59,806 --> 00:34:01,542 There we go, sir. 653 00:34:01,575 --> 00:34:03,310 I've been so pleased to be stood in that horse box 654 00:34:03,343 --> 00:34:06,379 when people come to me and be supportive. 655 00:34:07,614 --> 00:34:08,648 Why am I crying? 656 00:34:10,517 --> 00:34:12,719 It's so daft. It's really hard talking about yourself. 657 00:34:20,227 --> 00:34:21,261 Oh, yes, definitely. 658 00:34:22,062 --> 00:34:25,733 For a business like mine, perhaps I've prospered more so 659 00:34:25,766 --> 00:34:28,035 because of the increased footfall in the town. 660 00:34:28,068 --> 00:34:30,537 Obviously, for now, the town has taken off. 661 00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:32,472 [children] Go on, Wrexham! 662 00:34:32,873 --> 00:34:35,309 But there is a worry that what if it just stops? 663 00:34:35,342 --> 00:34:40,280 What if people move on to the next thing and that isn't Wrexham? 664 00:34:50,276 --> 00:34:51,516 -[fan 1] Up the town! -[fan 2] Got to go in. 665 00:34:51,549 --> 00:34:54,051 [Gilpin] Okay, who's got opening day jitters? I do. 666 00:34:54,084 --> 00:34:56,387 -Wrexham! -[Edwards] Same here. 667 00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:58,756 We can't afford to stumble out the gates like we did last season. 668 00:34:58,789 --> 00:35:00,657 Not with what we're up against in League One. 669 00:35:01,158 --> 00:35:02,860 Hi. How are you doing, buddy? 670 00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:04,695 [Reynolds] I'm good. How are you? 671 00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:07,799 Oh, my God. The hardened muscle. Like, what is it? 672 00:35:07,832 --> 00:35:09,734 I don't work out. I just fucking wake up and talk. 673 00:35:09,767 --> 00:35:11,936 [McElhenney] This is natural? 674 00:35:11,969 --> 00:35:14,605 One of our owners, and I can't remember which one it is, is Deadpool, 675 00:35:14,638 --> 00:35:16,507 the popular comic book character. 676 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:18,609 [Reynolds] Ooh, what's this we have over here? 677 00:35:19,077 --> 00:35:21,045 [Ker] In the most recent film, 678 00:35:21,078 --> 00:35:24,982 a number of cameos were executed by Wrexham AFC players. 679 00:35:25,015 --> 00:35:26,717 Paul Mullin and Ollie Palmer were both in it. 680 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:30,054 Ollie played Bar Patron Number One, 681 00:35:30,087 --> 00:35:32,590 -and Paul played Welshpool. -Fuck off, cunt. 682 00:35:32,623 --> 00:35:34,325 [Ker] His costume's a bit more recognizable. 683 00:35:34,358 --> 00:35:36,694 Big Welsh flag emblazoned across the Deadpool suit. 684 00:35:36,727 --> 00:35:42,500 So Ryan arranged for it to be transferred into the keeping of the football club. 685 00:35:42,533 --> 00:35:45,402 -[grunts, cheers] -[club members clapping] 686 00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:50,575 -Ladies and gentlemen, Welshpool. -[McElhenney] Wow. 687 00:35:50,608 --> 00:35:53,544 That's gonna have some fun, drunken nights in here, I think. 688 00:35:53,577 --> 00:35:57,014 -Is this the actual costume? Wow. -That is the actual suit, yeah. 689 00:35:57,047 --> 00:35:58,749 [Reynolds] Unwashed, of course, yeah. 690 00:35:58,782 --> 00:36:00,517 Probably used it as a bathroom. 691 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,691 No, Paddy. No. I don't... [scoffs] I don't even care. Don't care. 692 00:36:06,724 --> 00:36:08,392 Don't wanna be in a Marvel film. 693 00:36:08,425 --> 00:36:10,528 Uh, of course I'm disappointed. 694 00:36:10,561 --> 00:36:13,898 I imagine they just felt they couldn't get enough, like, red leather 695 00:36:13,931 --> 00:36:15,699 to make a suit big enough for me. 696 00:36:17,301 --> 00:36:19,369 [Griffiths] Hey, it's Wrexham time. 697 00:36:20,971 --> 00:36:23,307 Wrexham against Wycombe Wanderers. 698 00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:25,877 Rob and Ryan are here today, of course. 699 00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:29,680 There's a sort of increased sense of jeopardy as we return to League One. 700 00:36:30,248 --> 00:36:32,349 -League One! -League One! 701 00:36:32,817 --> 00:36:34,418 [Griffiths] League One will be physically harder. 702 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:39,523 A lot of people say they'd be happy with consolidation this season 703 00:36:40,458 --> 00:36:44,228 because we are going to be tested in League One. 704 00:36:48,499 --> 00:36:50,000 Hi, everybody. 705 00:36:50,434 --> 00:36:56,841 Thank you for gathering. It's always fun to get an email invite to a Zoom 706 00:36:56,874 --> 00:36:59,743 that says "Urgent. Must make a decision." 707 00:37:00,744 --> 00:37:01,879 That's not ominous. 708 00:37:01,912 --> 00:37:03,781 -Yeah. -[McElhenney] What's up? 709 00:37:03,814 --> 00:37:05,449 Where are we? What's going on? 710 00:37:05,482 --> 00:37:07,418 Yeah, thank you guys. 711 00:37:07,451 --> 00:37:09,954 I'm joined today with our finance director, Steve Phillips. 712 00:37:09,987 --> 00:37:11,722 So, listen, 713 00:37:11,755 --> 00:37:14,325 the reality is League One is really fucking difficult. 714 00:37:14,358 --> 00:37:18,496 We kind of need to understand what our goals and our strategies are going to be. 715 00:37:18,529 --> 00:37:22,300 There's a couple of things that we can do. Okay, we arrived to League One. 716 00:37:22,333 --> 00:37:25,770 We could stay where we are, stabilize, build some foundation. 717 00:37:25,803 --> 00:37:28,739 I can find a balanced budget for you as well. 718 00:37:28,772 --> 00:37:32,543 But the risk is we end up being stuck in League One. 719 00:37:32,576 --> 00:37:36,280 Now, the other thing we could do is, you know, we build on all this momentum 720 00:37:36,313 --> 00:37:38,616 that you guys have already created here. 721 00:37:38,649 --> 00:37:42,019 Invest in all the areas at the same time to give ourselves a competitive chance. 722 00:37:42,052 --> 00:37:44,422 Get back-to-back-to-back promotions. 723 00:37:44,455 --> 00:37:46,357 -I think it's time to just... -[Williamson] Let me, kind of 724 00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:47,825 -Hey, Michael. -show you-- 725 00:37:47,858 --> 00:37:51,729 You can ripe off the Band-Aid. We are grown men. 726 00:37:51,762 --> 00:37:53,498 Yeah, I'll just go ahead and rip off the Band-Aid 727 00:37:53,531 --> 00:37:55,599 and hopefully have a job at the end of this. 728 00:37:56,133 --> 00:37:58,836 Um, in the League One stabilize scenario, 729 00:37:58,869 --> 00:38:03,040 yeah, you probably break even to lose a million or so over a couple of years. 730 00:38:03,073 --> 00:38:05,810 But you probably never arrive to championship 731 00:38:05,843 --> 00:38:09,947 for at least five, ten years down the road, if you're lucky. 732 00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:12,917 So that's basically like a marathon approach. You're building the foundations 733 00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:17,421 and then hopefully trying to arrive to championship, in a longer period. 734 00:38:17,454 --> 00:38:21,659 Now, if you wanna go for the back-to-back-to-back promotions, 735 00:38:21,692 --> 00:38:24,295 we have to sprint to get everything together. 736 00:38:24,328 --> 00:38:26,531 It only works if you're also investing in the cup, 737 00:38:26,564 --> 00:38:28,332 which is going to be a very large number. 738 00:38:28,365 --> 00:38:30,735 It also only works if you're investing in the academy, 739 00:38:30,768 --> 00:38:34,672 which is gonna be a couple million pounds to have the facilities for the academy. 740 00:38:34,705 --> 00:38:35,939 We have to replace the pitch. 741 00:38:36,607 --> 00:38:40,745 I know last time I think it was, like, £100,000 or £200,000. 742 00:38:40,778 --> 00:38:45,917 Well, guess what? This time we're looking at £1.7 million. 743 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:50,521 £1.7 million for grass. Okay. 744 00:38:50,554 --> 00:38:54,458 Is the grass like human hair or something? How is it that expensive? I don't... 745 00:38:54,491 --> 00:38:56,394 [Williamson] It's what they call a stitch pitch. 746 00:38:56,427 --> 00:39:00,731 It's a blend of natural grass and hybrid, so it lasts longer. 747 00:39:00,764 --> 00:39:03,468 It's more durable, you can have more matches on it. 748 00:39:03,501 --> 00:39:06,404 Underground heating system as well as improved drainage 749 00:39:06,437 --> 00:39:09,740 so that you wouldn't have a situation where you have matches canceled. 750 00:39:09,773 --> 00:39:16,481 Can... Michael, can you just break it up in the simplest terms for my actor brain? 751 00:39:16,514 --> 00:39:20,985 Like, what would we be writing a check for in League One 752 00:39:21,018 --> 00:39:24,388 versus making a push to go back-to-back-to-back? 753 00:39:24,421 --> 00:39:26,858 It's at the 50 million level. 754 00:39:26,891 --> 00:39:28,292 Oh. 755 00:39:28,859 --> 00:39:29,893 [groans] 756 00:39:30,794 --> 00:39:32,362 50 million. 757 00:39:33,664 --> 00:39:36,601 [McElhenney] Bottom line, the big question is, 758 00:39:36,634 --> 00:39:40,805 do we essentially want to do the most responsible thing, 759 00:39:40,838 --> 00:39:44,475 which is build a team that's sustainable in League One? 760 00:39:44,508 --> 00:39:46,744 Or do we wanna put all of our chips on the table, 761 00:39:46,777 --> 00:39:50,548 and make a push to get promoted and get in the championship? 762 00:39:50,581 --> 00:39:56,621 Yeah, and if you get it wrong, that becomes a very expensive wrong decision. 763 00:39:56,654 --> 00:39:59,624 There's, like, two kind of modes of thinking here. 764 00:39:59,657 --> 00:40:03,361 One is spend, you know, a few years trying to save some money. 765 00:40:03,394 --> 00:40:08,733 The other one is just, like, eye-watering, financially crushing annihilation. 766 00:40:08,766 --> 00:40:09,833 Um... 767 00:40:11,335 --> 00:40:16,474 You know, one is to continue, you know, with your dream of back-to-back-to-back. 768 00:40:16,507 --> 00:40:19,310 Or do you actually just slow up a little bit? 769 00:40:19,343 --> 00:40:22,813 But remember, whichever you do, it all comes with risks. 770 00:40:25,049 --> 00:40:28,519 [crowd chanting] Wrexham! Wrexham! Wrexham! 771 00:40:28,552 --> 00:40:31,889 Wrexham! Wrexham! Wrexham! Wrexham! 772 00:40:35,826 --> 00:40:37,761 [chanting continues] 773 00:40:39,396 --> 00:40:42,266 [Griffiths] Here they are. Wrexham and Wycombe 774 00:40:42,299 --> 00:40:45,403 to start off the League One season. 775 00:40:45,436 --> 00:40:48,873 I will never forget when Rob said that our objective is 776 00:40:48,906 --> 00:40:51,342 to get to the Premier League when we were in the National League. 777 00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:53,444 We're gonna take Wrexham to the Premier League. 778 00:40:53,477 --> 00:40:55,379 -That's what they're gonna lean on. -That's the goal, isn't it? 779 00:40:55,412 --> 00:40:57,315 Why not dream big? 780 00:40:57,348 --> 00:41:00,484 And now we're in League One, on our way to the championship. 781 00:41:00,851 --> 00:41:05,523 And I just say let's... let's go for it. Let's fucking do it. 782 00:41:05,556 --> 00:41:08,292 Oh, my God. That is music to my ears. 783 00:41:08,325 --> 00:41:11,562 I... Honestly, I really had no idea which way you were gonna go. 784 00:41:11,595 --> 00:41:14,866 Historically, you've always been the more practical one. 785 00:41:14,899 --> 00:41:20,471 But I like it. I like this Ryan. Let's keep betting on the town. 786 00:41:20,504 --> 00:41:22,540 Yeah, we wanna fucking push. 787 00:41:22,573 --> 00:41:24,908 Let's go for it. What could go wrong? 788 00:41:25,876 --> 00:41:27,678 Being this risky is a gambit, 789 00:41:27,711 --> 00:41:32,950 and I think that in and of itself is the engine to success. 790 00:41:32,983 --> 00:41:35,486 Yes, it's risky, but it's also strategic. 791 00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:38,356 There is a, "Holy shit, we have to pull this off 792 00:41:38,389 --> 00:41:40,391 if we're gonna make this kind of investment." 793 00:41:40,424 --> 00:41:44,295 [McElhenney] We are all in. Everything is levered to the hilt. 794 00:41:44,328 --> 00:41:46,330 And when you put all of your chips on the table, 795 00:41:46,363 --> 00:41:50,267 you better come to win because we cannot afford to stumble. 70121

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