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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,357 --> 00:00:26,188 (narrator) In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:26,259 --> 00:00:30,127 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:31,993 the police who investigate crime, 4 00:00:32,098 --> 00:00:34,794 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders, 5 00:00:34,901 --> 00:00:36,300 These are their stories. 6 00:00:37,737 --> 00:00:39,796 I hope I did the right thing calling you. 7 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:41,966 I don't want to make any trouble for anybody. 8 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:43,703 You tried knockin' on their door? 9 00:00:43,777 --> 00:00:45,574 I banged on the floor with my foot 10 00:00:45,645 --> 00:00:47,442 but they don't care what time it is. 11 00:00:47,514 --> 00:00:50,142 You see? For two hours, it's been going on like this, 12 00:00:50,216 --> 00:00:51,649 right under my bedroom. 13 00:00:52,118 --> 00:00:53,449 [TV playing IoudIy] 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,886 Knock louder. They're old people. 15 00:00:57,190 --> 00:00:59,886 Mr. and Mrs. Steinmetz? It's the police. 16 00:01:00,627 --> 00:01:02,254 Probably dozed off to Leno. 17 00:01:02,328 --> 00:01:04,091 Well, I need my sleep. 18 00:01:04,164 --> 00:01:06,064 I'm getting a root canal at 8:00. 19 00:01:08,268 --> 00:01:09,758 Mr. Steinmetz? 20 00:01:11,738 --> 00:01:13,137 [man on TV chattering] 21 00:01:18,311 --> 00:01:21,007 (man #1) Nobody can see you up here, 22 00:01:22,782 --> 00:01:23,840 (man #2) You sure? 23 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:25,407 Course I’m sure. 24 00:01:25,485 --> 00:01:26,850 You stay put. 25 00:01:32,692 --> 00:01:34,489 (man #2) Then why’d you do it? 26 00:01:36,362 --> 00:01:38,762 (man #1) [brought you up here for a reason, 27 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:40,832 I don’t get it. 28 00:01:41,734 --> 00:01:44,396 I don’t see why you wanted us to bring her 29 00:01:44,471 --> 00:01:46,063 Joey, over here. 30 00:01:46,139 --> 00:01:48,107 ..,all the way into town here, 31 00:01:48,174 --> 00:01:50,608 And I couldn’t drive out to the motel. 32 00:01:51,444 --> 00:01:54,811 So, midnight, that's when Mr. Steinmetz went out? 33 00:01:54,881 --> 00:01:57,247 He opened the door for me downstairs. 34 00:01:57,317 --> 00:01:59,012 He always goes out walking. 35 00:01:59,085 --> 00:02:01,280 Ursula said it's because of the war. 36 00:02:01,354 --> 00:02:02,753 He can't sleep. 37 00:02:02,822 --> 00:02:05,848 Both ofthem, they're Holocaust survivors. 38 00:02:06,392 --> 00:02:07,620 So, besides the TV, 39 00:02:07,694 --> 00:02:09,787 did you hear anything else from their apartment? 40 00:02:09,863 --> 00:02:12,024 Like, uh, shouts, signs of a struggle? 41 00:02:12,098 --> 00:02:14,760 No. I took a bath and I went to bed. 42 00:02:14,834 --> 00:02:16,859 Every night, they have the TV on, 43 00:02:16,936 --> 00:02:18,927 but never for more than an hour. 44 00:02:19,038 --> 00:02:20,505 Oh. Thanks, Mrs. Franzel. 45 00:02:20,573 --> 00:02:22,200 If we need any more, we'll call you. 46 00:02:22,275 --> 00:02:25,073 Dying alone, it's a tragedy. 47 00:02:26,346 --> 00:02:28,177 [police radio chattering] 48 00:02:35,321 --> 00:02:37,687 $18 in the wallet, 49 00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:39,485 diamond ring on the nightstand, 50 00:02:39,559 --> 00:02:41,527 nobody touched the silverware. 51 00:02:42,095 --> 00:02:43,562 Old lady with MS. 52 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:45,564 She's been dead three, maybe four hours. 53 00:02:45,632 --> 00:02:47,725 These might have had somethin' to do with it. 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,234 Two months' supply of Iullabies, half ofthem gone. 55 00:02:50,303 --> 00:02:54,433 Dalmane, 30 milligrams, prescribed to David Steinmetz. 56 00:02:54,741 --> 00:02:56,333 Filled four days ago. 57 00:02:57,076 --> 00:02:58,805 Too old to live. 58 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:01,674 Yeah, but too scared to die. 59 00:03:02,415 --> 00:03:04,849 Sleeping pills supposed to do that to your face? 60 00:03:04,951 --> 00:03:07,215 Fall out of bed and break your nose, they do. 61 00:03:07,287 --> 00:03:09,585 (Steinmetz) Please, I want to see her. 62 00:03:10,256 --> 00:03:11,484 Please. 63 00:03:13,493 --> 00:03:14,653 Ursula. 64 00:03:14,727 --> 00:03:15,819 David Steinmetz? 65 00:03:15,895 --> 00:03:17,055 Yes. 66 00:03:18,731 --> 00:03:20,198 Could we talk? 67 00:03:20,266 --> 00:03:23,702 I must call Mara, my daughter, to tell her I did this. 68 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:26,338 My Ursula, I killed her. 69 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:29,165 I killed the woman I love. 70 00:04:53,092 --> 00:04:56,152 She was 70. She couldn’t walk. 71 00:04:56,596 --> 00:04:58,928 She was losing her sight. 72 00:04:59,332 --> 00:05:01,800 She could hardly work in the store. 73 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:06,361 She was tired ofbeing an old woman. 74 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:08,971 Well, she had her grandkids, she had you. 75 00:05:09,042 --> 00:05:10,669 What could I say? 76 00:05:10,843 --> 00:05:13,607 She had to live in that body, not me. 77 00:05:14,814 --> 00:05:18,045 All the time now, Ursula, she was in pain. 78 00:05:18,484 --> 00:05:20,281 She begged me to help her. 79 00:05:20,353 --> 00:05:22,014 So you filled the prescription? 80 00:05:22,088 --> 00:05:24,113 Yes. And I brought her the glass of water, 81 00:05:24,190 --> 00:05:25,851 and I helped her take the pills. 82 00:05:25,925 --> 00:05:27,358 What time was this? 83 00:05:27,527 --> 00:05:29,995 I, uh, I don't remember. Late. 84 00:05:32,098 --> 00:05:33,690 She fell asleep. 85 00:05:34,801 --> 00:05:37,861 I couldn't watch her die. I left. 86 00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:43,199 My daughter Mara. I must talk to her. 87 00:05:43,609 --> 00:05:46,806 Well, we'll, uh-- We'll call her as soon as you're done. 88 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,173 Mr. Steinmetz, did your wife 89 00:05:49,248 --> 00:05:51,478 discuss this with anybody else? 90 00:05:52,819 --> 00:05:56,721 No, it was between Ursula and me. 91 00:05:57,523 --> 00:05:59,286 Did she leave anything behind? 92 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:01,156 You know, maybe a letter? 93 00:06:04,397 --> 00:06:06,058 We didn't think... 94 00:06:11,904 --> 00:06:13,235 [sighing] 95 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:22,404 (Briscoe) This won’t take much longer, sir. 96 00:06:25,151 --> 00:06:27,949 Well, uh, he didn't exactly pull the trigger. 97 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:29,453 But he held the gun. 98 00:06:29,522 --> 00:06:30,921 Man two, assisted suicide. 99 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:32,719 Come on. You really gonna run with this? 100 00:06:32,792 --> 00:06:34,157 The guy's 70 years old. 101 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:36,422 It's not like he whacked her for the insurance money. 102 00:06:36,496 --> 00:06:37,520 Maybe he did. 103 00:06:37,597 --> 00:06:39,622 With no note from her, all we have is his word. 104 00:06:39,699 --> 00:06:41,360 Well, we're gonna talk to the daughter. 105 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:43,163 In the meantime, we charge him. 106 00:06:49,308 --> 00:06:52,106 Maybe she was depressed the past few weeks, 107 00:06:52,845 --> 00:06:54,938 but physically, she was the same 108 00:06:55,014 --> 00:06:57,812 she's always been for the past couple of years. 109 00:06:58,151 --> 00:07:00,449 Your father said she was getting worse. 110 00:07:02,255 --> 00:07:04,621 I didn't know how bad things were. 111 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:06,988 And she gave no sign? No... 112 00:07:07,059 --> 00:07:09,550 Nothing that could be like a last goodbye? 113 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:18,495 She was looking forward to Jared's bar mitzvah. 114 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:21,830 After 12 years of social work, 115 00:07:21,908 --> 00:07:23,773 you'd think I'd be smart enough 116 00:07:23,910 --> 00:07:25,935 to, uh, pick up on the signals. 117 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:28,379 What about from your father? 118 00:07:29,081 --> 00:07:30,548 Dad's a rock. 119 00:07:33,686 --> 00:07:35,347 It must've torn him apart, 120 00:07:35,421 --> 00:07:37,389 but he didn't let anything show. 121 00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:42,424 He knew what it was like for her 122 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:45,824 after all she's been through. 123 00:07:46,899 --> 00:07:48,230 The camps. 124 00:07:59,645 --> 00:08:01,510 When I was growing up, 125 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:07,542 my mother would wake up screaming every night. 126 00:08:14,026 --> 00:08:17,291 I thought every parent had a tattoo on his arm. 127 00:08:19,732 --> 00:08:20,926 Okay, thank you. 128 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,524 We talked to the doctor 129 00:08:22,602 --> 00:08:24,832 and Steinmetz is an insomniac. 130 00:08:25,071 --> 00:08:27,596 The doctor's been givin' him Dalmane for 10 years. 131 00:08:27,673 --> 00:08:28,901 Two months at a time? 132 00:08:28,975 --> 00:08:30,943 I mean, this guy didn't get his MD yesterday. 133 00:08:31,010 --> 00:08:32,773 He must have known what was in the works. 134 00:08:32,845 --> 00:08:34,312 Or he was saving a trusted patient 135 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:35,870 a few trips to the pharmacy. 136 00:08:35,948 --> 00:08:38,576 State Board may slap his wrist, but we can't touch him. 137 00:08:38,651 --> 00:08:39,879 Well, we're just left with 138 00:08:39,952 --> 00:08:41,419 Steinmetz's version of history. 139 00:08:41,487 --> 00:08:43,114 What, the guy writes with an eraser? 140 00:08:43,189 --> 00:08:44,850 According to the daughter, 141 00:08:44,924 --> 00:08:47,358 the old lady was planning her grandson's bar mitzvah. 142 00:08:47,426 --> 00:08:49,291 Now I hear that's a pretty big deal. 143 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:51,592 Hey, some people would take the bus from Chicago. 144 00:08:51,664 --> 00:08:53,154 Me, I'd just send a check. 145 00:08:53,232 --> 00:08:55,826 Lennie, my guess is the lady would stick around. 146 00:08:55,902 --> 00:08:58,063 Maybe she got tired of being an invalid. 147 00:08:58,137 --> 00:09:00,332 And maybe he got tired of Iivin' with one. 148 00:09:00,406 --> 00:09:03,000 My mother'd get the flu, my old man would go nutty. 149 00:09:03,109 --> 00:09:04,906 Okay, say he killed her, 150 00:09:04,977 --> 00:09:06,808 how'd he get the pills in her stomach? 151 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:09,347 I doubt he told her they were breath mints. 152 00:09:09,415 --> 00:09:11,906 Keep it simple. Assisted suicide. 153 00:09:11,984 --> 00:09:13,349 I'll talkto Ben. 154 00:09:14,453 --> 00:09:15,784 (Schiff) Read the paper, Ben, 155 00:09:15,855 --> 00:09:17,447 it'll give you a sense of proportion. 156 00:09:17,523 --> 00:09:18,990 He confessed to the murder. 157 00:09:19,058 --> 00:09:20,491 Mob hit is a murder. 158 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,528 Baby left in a dumpster is a murder. 159 00:09:22,595 --> 00:09:24,995 This, ajury will see as an act of love. 160 00:09:25,064 --> 00:09:26,827 And a C felony. We dismiss, 161 00:09:26,899 --> 00:09:28,628 next week, a dozen men'll claim 162 00:09:28,701 --> 00:09:31,169 they helped their wives commit suicide with a .38. 163 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:33,467 And you'll be there to convince a jury otherwise. 164 00:09:33,539 --> 00:09:35,700 I didn't write the statutes, Adam. 165 00:09:35,775 --> 00:09:37,902 Yeah, mercy has more shadings 166 00:09:37,977 --> 00:09:40,502 than can be grasped by a state assembly. 167 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:42,775 Steinmetz isn't counting on our goodwill, either. 168 00:09:42,848 --> 00:09:44,816 He's hired Gary Lowenthal. 169 00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:46,681 Plead the poor bastard out. 170 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:53,757 You want to put a 70-year-old man in prison? 171 00:09:54,193 --> 00:09:56,855 What is it, Ben, payback time for father figures? 172 00:09:56,929 --> 00:10:00,092 I am bound by the laws of the State of New York, Gary. 173 00:10:00,333 --> 00:10:03,359 Mr. Stone, I've already lost my mother. 174 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:05,802 I--I don't want to lose my father as well. 175 00:10:05,871 --> 00:10:08,237 Can you see your way past those laws? 176 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:10,705 I can't see my way past a confession. 177 00:10:11,077 --> 00:10:12,339 There I can help. 178 00:10:12,411 --> 00:10:14,379 I'm moving to suppress the confession. 179 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:16,347 My client was denied his right to counsel. 180 00:10:16,415 --> 00:10:17,712 He asked to see his daughter. 181 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:20,013 The police refused until they had his statement. 182 00:10:20,119 --> 00:10:21,313 She's a lawyer? 183 00:10:21,387 --> 00:10:22,979 She's a social worker. 184 00:10:23,055 --> 00:10:24,044 Gary, 185 00:10:24,857 --> 00:10:27,587 I've turned the other cheek as far as I could on this. 186 00:10:27,693 --> 00:10:31,254 Mrs. Steinmetz, no matter what her age or her condition, 187 00:10:31,330 --> 00:10:33,195 had a right to expect her husband 188 00:10:33,265 --> 00:10:35,563 to enhance her life, not to help her end it. 189 00:10:35,901 --> 00:10:38,563 That's your opinion. I prefer ajudge's. 190 00:10:41,707 --> 00:10:44,301 (Lowenthal) In Fare v. Michael C., a California court held 191 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:46,311 that asking for your probation officer 192 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:48,370 is equivalent to asking for a lawyer. 193 00:10:48,447 --> 00:10:50,642 And the Supreme Court overturned. 194 00:10:50,883 --> 00:10:52,646 What Rehnquist takes away, 195 00:10:52,718 --> 00:10:55,186 the State can give back to a defendant. 196 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:58,389 Uh, Your Honor, even if we were to give to social workers 197 00:10:58,457 --> 00:11:01,426 the same standing we give lawyers or probation officers, 198 00:11:01,494 --> 00:11:04,224 Mr. Steinmetz's relationship to his daughter is personal, 199 00:11:04,296 --> 00:11:05,763 it is not professional. 200 00:11:05,831 --> 00:11:07,423 We can show that Mrs. Feder 201 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,663 helped her father apply for Social Security and Medicare, 202 00:11:10,736 --> 00:11:12,203 and performed any number 203 00:11:12,271 --> 00:11:14,466 of professional services on his behalf. 204 00:11:14,707 --> 00:11:17,540 Mr. Steinmetz asked for his daughter by name. 205 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:19,908 There's no way you can expect police officers 206 00:11:19,979 --> 00:11:21,674 to know her professional status. 207 00:11:21,947 --> 00:11:24,472 Mr. Steinmetz, did you tell the police 208 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:26,518 why you wanted to see your daughter? 209 00:11:26,585 --> 00:11:29,076 Yes. I told them she was a social worker 210 00:11:29,588 --> 00:11:31,852 and that she would know what to do. 211 00:11:33,993 --> 00:11:35,358 Sorry, Ben. 212 00:11:35,961 --> 00:11:37,758 Mr. Steinmetz's right to counsel, 213 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:39,821 as he understood it, was ignored. 214 00:11:40,666 --> 00:11:42,896 The police should've been more cautious. 215 00:11:43,135 --> 00:11:45,695 You have a problem, take it up with them. 216 00:11:46,872 --> 00:11:48,134 What's the problem? 217 00:11:48,207 --> 00:11:50,402 Five cops heard him say he killed her. 218 00:11:50,476 --> 00:11:52,671 Uttered in a moment of grief and confusion. 219 00:11:52,745 --> 00:11:54,872 By the time Lowenthal gets him on the stand, 220 00:11:54,947 --> 00:11:57,040 Steinmetz will explain that he meant to say 221 00:11:57,116 --> 00:11:59,277 he drove his wife to suicide. 222 00:12:00,186 --> 00:12:01,380 ME's report in? 223 00:12:01,454 --> 00:12:03,422 We're still waitin' for the tox exam. 224 00:12:03,489 --> 00:12:04,751 I'll lean on 'em. 225 00:12:04,824 --> 00:12:05,950 Ben... 226 00:12:06,025 --> 00:12:08,493 Paul, we know he perjured himself once. 227 00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:12,327 Before I let him walk, I would like to find out how many other lies he's told. 228 00:12:12,498 --> 00:12:14,489 (female operator) Dr. Ellingworth, Det. Carr... 229 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:16,899 I told you on the phone, what I have is preliminary. 230 00:12:16,969 --> 00:12:19,369 You want it etched in stone, come back in a month. 231 00:12:19,438 --> 00:12:21,906 Come on, Rodgers. We got a DA cracking the whip. 232 00:12:23,309 --> 00:12:25,641 All right, as long as you understand 233 00:12:25,711 --> 00:12:27,576 my boss hasn't signed off on this yet. 234 00:12:27,646 --> 00:12:28,943 Thank you. 235 00:12:29,014 --> 00:12:32,177 Yeah. "Steinmetz, Ursula." 236 00:12:33,452 --> 00:12:35,647 Drug overdose, benzodiazepine. 237 00:12:35,721 --> 00:12:37,848 Found 900 milligrams in her stomach. 238 00:12:38,357 --> 00:12:39,949 Is that enough to kill her? 239 00:12:40,025 --> 00:12:43,256 Hmm, yeah. That's not counting what she'd already digested. 240 00:12:43,395 --> 00:12:46,228 Yeah, respiratory failure, 900 would do it. 241 00:12:46,899 --> 00:12:48,799 Wait a minute, somebody screwed up here. 242 00:12:48,868 --> 00:12:50,233 How's that? 243 00:12:50,402 --> 00:12:53,337 Let me, uh, run these numbers by the lab again. 244 00:12:53,405 --> 00:12:55,430 Hold it. We don't have time for that. 245 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:57,237 Tell us now. What's it say? 246 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:01,011 [sighing] Well, according to the labs, 247 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,911 the amount of Dalmane found in her liver 248 00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:04,574 indicates a level of absorption 249 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:06,845 insufficient to cause a respiratory failure. 250 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:08,819 Well, she's an old lady with MS. 251 00:13:08,888 --> 00:13:11,823 I mean, did she absorb enough to give her a heart attack? 252 00:13:11,891 --> 00:13:13,324 No, if you believe this, 253 00:13:13,392 --> 00:13:16,054 she didn't digest enough pills to kill her. 254 00:13:16,128 --> 00:13:17,755 So if she stopped breathing, 255 00:13:17,830 --> 00:13:20,196 maybe it's because somebody choked her. 256 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:22,700 Yeah, somebody broke her nose, too. 257 00:13:22,768 --> 00:13:25,328 Might not be the only tracks he left behind. 258 00:13:25,538 --> 00:13:26,903 Thank you. 259 00:13:27,239 --> 00:13:29,173 The night she OD'd, they had a big argument, 260 00:13:29,241 --> 00:13:30,606 right out here in the hall, 261 00:13:30,676 --> 00:13:32,200 just before he went to his walk. 262 00:13:32,278 --> 00:13:33,677 And what time was this? 263 00:13:33,746 --> 00:13:37,113 10:30. The door closed, and he left. 264 00:13:37,516 --> 00:13:38,983 You sure about the time? 265 00:13:39,051 --> 00:13:41,281 Mmm-hmm. I wasjust getting ready to go to work. 266 00:13:41,353 --> 00:13:43,378 11:00 to 8:00 shift at the phone company. 267 00:13:43,455 --> 00:13:45,821 "Operator 842. What city, please?" 268 00:13:46,458 --> 00:13:47,686 (Logan) Lennie. 269 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,954 Thank you. 270 00:13:52,198 --> 00:13:54,359 She says Steinmetz left at 10:30, 271 00:13:54,433 --> 00:13:55,593 upstairs said midnight. 272 00:13:55,668 --> 00:13:57,829 He came back, and I think I know what for. 273 00:13:57,903 --> 00:13:59,666 Yeah? Watch this. 274 00:13:59,972 --> 00:14:02,338 I open the door, I turn on the light, 275 00:14:02,408 --> 00:14:03,841 I find this. 276 00:14:04,243 --> 00:14:06,211 It matches the armchair. 277 00:14:06,278 --> 00:14:08,143 That's blood, and it's recent. 278 00:14:08,214 --> 00:14:10,614 I got $10 says it's Mrs. Steinmetz's. 279 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:13,516 Now look, whether he force-fed those pills to her or not, 280 00:14:13,619 --> 00:14:15,814 he came back expecting her to be dead. 281 00:14:15,888 --> 00:14:18,550 She wasn't. Finishes the job with the pillow. 282 00:14:18,624 --> 00:14:20,455 And bloodies her nose in the process. 283 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,084 Takes his lap around the city, 284 00:14:22,161 --> 00:14:24,686 and I guess we're supposed to feel sorry for him. 285 00:14:25,798 --> 00:14:28,130 Well, even if it was her idea to take the pills, 286 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,031 he had to finish her off with a pillow? 287 00:14:30,102 --> 00:14:32,536 He couldn't wait for the pill to do the job for him? 288 00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:34,903 Do you know how many sleeping pills is a lethal dose? 289 00:14:34,974 --> 00:14:37,033 I don't, and I bet Steinmetz doesn't either. 290 00:14:37,109 --> 00:14:39,236 Well, then why didn't he tell us about the pillow? 291 00:14:39,311 --> 00:14:40,801 Because he knew how it would look. 292 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,780 Yeah, like he wanted her dead. 293 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:45,851 All I know is if I found my wife lying on the floor, 294 00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:47,749 I would do everything I could to save her, 295 00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:49,253 and the hell with suicide. 296 00:14:49,321 --> 00:14:50,879 Any way you slice or dice it, 297 00:14:50,956 --> 00:14:52,048 this guy had no right 298 00:14:52,124 --> 00:14:53,887 to wrap a pillow around his wife's face. 299 00:14:53,959 --> 00:14:56,018 Let's not forget the neighbors heard them arguing. 300 00:14:56,095 --> 00:14:57,790 Hey, you spend 24 hours a day together, 301 00:14:57,863 --> 00:14:59,558 I don't care if you're Joseph and Mary, 302 00:14:59,632 --> 00:15:01,361 you're gonna get on each other's nerves. 303 00:15:01,433 --> 00:15:02,866 Wait a minute, they work together? 304 00:15:02,935 --> 00:15:05,267 Steinmetz has a tailor shop on 30th Street. 305 00:15:06,038 --> 00:15:08,063 All right. Let's assume that they're too old 306 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:11,075 to argue about sex, so that leaves what? Money? 307 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:17,644 People treat you like dirt in this business. 308 00:15:17,716 --> 00:15:19,343 Not Mr. Steinmetz. 309 00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:21,648 He has respect for the people who work for him. 310 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,846 How so? 311 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,981 The man's been there, you know what I mean? 312 00:15:25,057 --> 00:15:27,548 Back in Poland, he was a slave for the Nazis. 313 00:15:27,626 --> 00:15:29,651 They had him workin' in some ghetto over there, 314 00:15:29,728 --> 00:15:32,219 the Lodz Ghetto, makin' uniforms for them. 315 00:15:32,298 --> 00:15:34,391 You got people out sick today? 316 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,799 Yeah, they got recession-itis. 317 00:15:37,102 --> 00:15:39,434 Hard times, that'll press a marriage, huh? 318 00:15:39,505 --> 00:15:40,802 No, not these two. 319 00:15:40,873 --> 00:15:42,636 They've seen worse, you know? 320 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:44,107 In the eight years I've been here, 321 00:15:44,176 --> 00:15:45,700 the only time they raised their voice 322 00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:47,405 was about somethin' in the paper. 323 00:15:47,479 --> 00:15:48,639 What, politics? 324 00:15:48,714 --> 00:15:50,375 Yeah. Polish politics. 325 00:15:50,582 --> 00:15:52,516 Once a week, Mrs. Steinmetz would send me 326 00:15:52,584 --> 00:15:54,108 to the newsstand on 34th 327 00:15:54,186 --> 00:15:55,778 to get this Polish paper. 328 00:15:55,854 --> 00:15:57,151 And about three weeks ago, 329 00:15:57,222 --> 00:15:58,917 she got real upset with Mr. Steinmetz 330 00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:00,424 over some article she read. 331 00:16:00,492 --> 00:16:01,982 This paper got a name? 332 00:16:02,161 --> 00:16:03,719 No vejeneik. 333 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:10,366 "Warsaw Arts Council Presents Merit Awards." 334 00:16:10,836 --> 00:16:12,167 What else? 335 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:17,033 "National Tribunal Convicts Nazi War Criminal." 336 00:16:17,109 --> 00:16:19,270 Hold it. Give us the highlights. 337 00:16:20,379 --> 00:16:23,439 "Horst Hilsman, German officer at Chelmno, 338 00:16:23,649 --> 00:16:25,048 "sentenced to death. 339 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:28,014 "Other war criminals tried in absentia. 340 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:30,320 "Jacub Skulman, a Jewish policeman 341 00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:32,653 "in the Lodz Ghetto during the war. 342 00:16:32,725 --> 00:16:35,853 Peter Angermeier, staff sergeant in Birkenau--" 343 00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:37,418 Wait a minute. 344 00:16:37,529 --> 00:16:38,689 Lodz Ghetto. 345 00:16:38,764 --> 00:16:40,732 Now, wasn't Steinmetz from Lodz? 346 00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:42,898 Maybe he knew Skulman. 347 00:16:43,102 --> 00:16:45,366 So what? His wife didn't like his friends? 348 00:16:45,437 --> 00:16:47,598 That's something he'd kill her for? 349 00:16:47,673 --> 00:16:49,937 I'd think Mr. Stone would have better things to do 350 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,601 than to hound a sad old man. 351 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:53,372 Hey, he squeaks, we go running. 352 00:16:53,445 --> 00:16:55,777 Make it easy on us, will you, Mrs. Feder? 353 00:16:55,881 --> 00:16:57,314 [sighing] They'd argue, 354 00:16:57,383 --> 00:16:59,783 yes, about the war, about the Holocaust. 355 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,979 It was the defining moment oftheir lives. 356 00:17:02,054 --> 00:17:03,180 Did they ever talk about 357 00:17:03,255 --> 00:17:05,189 people they knew in the Lodz Ghetto? 358 00:17:05,257 --> 00:17:07,191 My mother's from Warsaw. 359 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,118 My father's from Lodz, 360 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:12,493 but he rarely talks about it with me. 361 00:17:12,598 --> 00:17:14,429 He says he has nightmares enough, 362 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:16,468 he doesn't need to give me any. 363 00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:19,160 Your mother ever mention the name Jacub Skulman? 364 00:17:19,905 --> 00:17:21,463 No. Who's he? 365 00:17:21,807 --> 00:17:24,105 He's wanted for war crimes in Poland. 366 00:17:24,977 --> 00:17:26,467 [dog barking] 367 00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:31,611 No, she'd never talk about anybody like that. 368 00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:36,513 My mother was a very broken... 369 00:17:44,463 --> 00:17:46,727 She found it very hard to shut out the memories, 370 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:48,232 like my father. 371 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,960 I sent her to a therapist three years ago, 372 00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:53,670 a rabbi who worked with survivors. 373 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,500 She was seeing a therapist, and nobody told us? 374 00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:01,311 She stopped going four months ago. 375 00:18:02,214 --> 00:18:04,205 She wouldn't tell me why. 376 00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:07,951 Much as I'd like to help, 377 00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:11,217 any communication I had with Mrs. Steinmetz is privileged. 378 00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:13,724 I have to consider the feelings of her family. 379 00:18:13,792 --> 00:18:15,953 Oh, which family member are you protecting? 380 00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:17,393 The husband? 381 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:20,296 Let's, uh, try a little softball here, Rabbi. 382 00:18:22,534 --> 00:18:25,264 The reason that Mrs. Steinmetz stopped coming here, 383 00:18:25,337 --> 00:18:26,861 could it have anything to do 384 00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:28,873 with the reason she committed suicide? 385 00:18:28,941 --> 00:18:31,273 Well, I--I can't discuss what she told me 386 00:18:31,343 --> 00:18:33,777 but I can say the group sessions 387 00:18:33,846 --> 00:18:35,814 can awaken powerful memories. 388 00:18:35,914 --> 00:18:38,474 A name? Jacub Skulman? 389 00:18:39,318 --> 00:18:41,650 Skulman. Oh, yes. 390 00:18:42,554 --> 00:18:45,022 The group discussed his case at length. 391 00:18:45,357 --> 00:18:47,348 Did you discuss it before or after 392 00:18:47,426 --> 00:18:49,360 Mrs. Steinmetz stopped coming? 393 00:18:49,828 --> 00:18:50,988 Before. 394 00:18:51,530 --> 00:18:53,691 One of my clients, Mrs. Liebman, 395 00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:56,392 apparently she knew Skulman. 396 00:18:58,437 --> 00:19:01,304 I don't know, I feel like we're chasing a ghost here. 397 00:19:01,373 --> 00:19:03,307 This guy Skulman's probably dead. 398 00:19:03,375 --> 00:19:05,639 The rabbi wasn't playing catch just to be nice. 399 00:19:05,744 --> 00:19:07,473 He practically said Skulman's name 400 00:19:07,546 --> 00:19:09,036 sent Mrs. Steinmetz running. 401 00:19:09,114 --> 00:19:11,105 So what? I mean, we're digging up stuff 402 00:19:11,183 --> 00:19:12,673 that happened 50 years ago. 403 00:19:12,751 --> 00:19:15,447 What the hell, it's ancient history, Lennie. 404 00:19:15,521 --> 00:19:17,819 Hey, my old man was a GI in World War II. 405 00:19:17,890 --> 00:19:19,824 First regiment into Buchenwald. 406 00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:22,952 And he never forgot how he felt when he saw those people. 407 00:19:23,061 --> 00:19:25,723 I mean, he wasn't religious, but he said after that day 408 00:19:25,797 --> 00:19:27,389 he believed in the devil. 409 00:19:27,466 --> 00:19:29,559 This stuff never went away, Mike. 410 00:19:31,803 --> 00:19:35,637 I knew Jacub Skulman in Lodz 411 00:19:36,642 --> 00:19:38,610 when I was a young girl. 412 00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:40,970 He was an apprentice tailor 413 00:19:41,146 --> 00:19:43,842 before he joined the Ordnungsdienst. 414 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:46,611 The ghetto police. 415 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,947 The Germans formed a--a Jewish government. 416 00:19:52,391 --> 00:19:54,484 Puppets to rule the ghetto. 417 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,528 Yeah, you let the Jews police themselves, 418 00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:58,119 maybe they'll work harder for you. 419 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:00,791 Maybe they thought they will let them live. 420 00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:03,699 And believing that makes you a war criminal? 421 00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:05,498 Of course we believed. 422 00:20:05,637 --> 00:20:07,537 Anything to make it stop. 423 00:20:07,606 --> 00:20:09,801 But Skulman took it a step further. 424 00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:11,170 Skulman. 425 00:20:11,977 --> 00:20:15,538 In the sweatshop where we made uniforms for the SS, 426 00:20:16,648 --> 00:20:18,411 Skulman was a brute. 427 00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:22,577 He beat us if we didn't make the quota. 428 00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:24,946 What happened to Skulman? 429 00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:28,682 When the Germans cleared the ghetto in 1944, 430 00:20:29,728 --> 00:20:32,561 him being so--so high-and-mighty, 431 00:20:33,098 --> 00:20:35,328 he finished like everyone else, 432 00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:37,969 on a train to Auschwitz. 433 00:20:38,370 --> 00:20:40,600 Ursula Steinmetz, do you know her? 434 00:20:40,672 --> 00:20:42,606 She was in Rabbi Dworkin's group. 435 00:20:42,674 --> 00:20:47,338 Yes, she, too, asked me about Skulman, his family. 436 00:20:47,512 --> 00:20:49,480 She thought she knew him. 437 00:20:50,148 --> 00:20:52,639 I only told her what I remember. 438 00:20:58,123 --> 00:21:01,718 Skulman's spotty, most ofthe records are still in Poland. 439 00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:04,352 You know, it's quite historic in a way. 440 00:21:04,496 --> 00:21:06,020 Poland has never before 441 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:07,656 prosecuted a Jew for war crimes. 442 00:21:07,733 --> 00:21:09,758 Well, I don't understand why a guy like Skulman 443 00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:11,530 would line himself up with the Nazis. 444 00:21:11,603 --> 00:21:13,366 And slit his own throat? 445 00:21:13,438 --> 00:21:15,599 He wasn't the only one who was deceived. 446 00:21:15,674 --> 00:21:18,074 You see, the elders of the ghetto reasoned that 447 00:21:18,143 --> 00:21:21,476 ifthe Jews could prove their economic value to the Reich, 448 00:21:21,546 --> 00:21:23,207 their lives would be spared. 449 00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:25,816 So each uniform you made added a day to your life. 450 00:21:25,917 --> 00:21:27,646 Does anybody know for sure 451 00:21:27,719 --> 00:21:29,880 that Skulman walked out of Auschwitz? 452 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:32,219 The Polish government has eyewitnesses. 453 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,987 I guess the virtues that allowed him to survive in Lodz 454 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:36,652 carried him through Auschwitz. 455 00:21:36,728 --> 00:21:38,218 He'd be an old man by now. 456 00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:41,164 His birth date was 1922, so he's 70 years old. 457 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,530 There's a photograph in the archives. 458 00:21:43,602 --> 00:21:45,092 We'll take it. 459 00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:46,935 Same age as Steinmetz. 460 00:21:47,005 --> 00:21:48,768 Same job, same camp. 461 00:21:50,075 --> 00:21:51,975 Sorry about the quality. 462 00:21:52,244 --> 00:21:54,371 Jacub Skulman, class of '42. 463 00:21:55,914 --> 00:21:58,314 Coincidences add up to probability. 464 00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:00,881 Yeah, and what spooked the wife. 465 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,919 The ultimate evil. 466 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:05,320 Convince the slaves to run the plantation. 467 00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:07,722 Yeah, hats off to German ingenuity. 468 00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:11,387 If Steinmetz is Skulman, and his wife found out, 469 00:22:11,563 --> 00:22:13,292 he'd want to keep her quiet. 470 00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:16,095 By killing his wife? This guy? 471 00:22:17,302 --> 00:22:18,599 I don't know. 472 00:22:18,670 --> 00:22:20,399 War criminals click their heels. 473 00:22:20,472 --> 00:22:23,669 They don't have numbers tattooed on their forearms. 474 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,011 Arrest him. 475 00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:33,006 (man on police radio) Highway 128, 16... 476 00:22:37,589 --> 00:22:40,387 (Logan) How far can a 70-year-old man walk? 477 00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:47,725 (man on police radio) 1290 Sixth Avenue. 1290 Sixth... 478 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,398 (Briscoe) That looks like him. 479 00:22:52,237 --> 00:22:53,568 Pull over. 480 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,902 Mr. Steinmetz. 481 00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:58,304 (Steinmetz) Yes? 482 00:22:58,510 --> 00:23:00,637 David Steinmetz, you're under arrest 483 00:23:00,746 --> 00:23:02,543 for the murder of Ursula Steinmetz. 484 00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:04,479 You have the right to remain silent. 485 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:06,380 Anything you do say can and will be 486 00:23:06,451 --> 00:23:08,351 used against you in a court of law. 487 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:12,053 You can't make a C felony, so you shoot the moon 488 00:23:12,124 --> 00:23:13,489 and charge him with an A. 489 00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:16,356 Your client shot the moon when he refused a man two plea. 490 00:23:16,428 --> 00:23:18,225 Now he's looking at murder. 491 00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:21,058 My mother took her own life, Mr. Stone. 492 00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:23,364 That doesn't make me proud or happy, 493 00:23:23,435 --> 00:23:24,766 but I respect her memory. 494 00:23:24,836 --> 00:23:26,531 She didn't want this. She wanted peace. 495 00:23:26,605 --> 00:23:28,163 Did she tell you that? 496 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,205 [sniffling] 497 00:23:30,976 --> 00:23:32,466 My father told me. 498 00:23:32,544 --> 00:23:35,877 Did he also tell you that he smothered her with a pillow? 499 00:23:36,548 --> 00:23:39,608 You have no idea. My father... 500 00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:44,511 The neighbors are--are paying his bail. 501 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:48,388 They-they're helping to pay for Mr. Lowenthal's services. 502 00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:51,759 Which means people who know him, believe him. 503 00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:53,557 They haven't seen the evidence. 504 00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:55,065 There's none to see. 505 00:23:55,133 --> 00:23:56,794 Turn up the flame as high as you want, 506 00:23:56,868 --> 00:23:58,358 this one's not gonna boil. 507 00:23:58,437 --> 00:23:59,563 You stir in motive-- 508 00:23:59,638 --> 00:24:00,866 You mean speculation? 509 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:02,429 It's all sound and fury, Ben, 510 00:24:02,507 --> 00:24:03,906 and you know what that gets you. 511 00:24:03,975 --> 00:24:05,840 If I'm right and he is Jacub Skulman, 512 00:24:05,911 --> 00:24:08,379 and he did murder his wife to cover up his secret, 513 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,381 what it gets him is 25-to-Iife. 514 00:24:10,615 --> 00:24:12,913 What if you're wrong, Mr. Stone? 515 00:24:14,986 --> 00:24:17,750 Look at his arm. He's been branded once. 516 00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:20,758 But what you're doing... 517 00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:23,591 Those same people who are helping us 518 00:24:23,662 --> 00:24:26,722 will turn around and spit in our faces forever. 519 00:24:35,907 --> 00:24:38,102 It'd better be important, Mr. Robinette. 520 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:39,541 45-year-old files, 521 00:24:39,611 --> 00:24:41,806 I'll be living on antihistamines for a month. 522 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,142 You found something? 523 00:24:43,281 --> 00:24:44,578 Yes and no. 524 00:24:44,749 --> 00:24:47,047 David Steinmetz went eyeball-to-eyeball 525 00:24:47,118 --> 00:24:49,450 with Miss Liberty, May of '47. 526 00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:51,113 What about Jacub Skulman? 527 00:24:51,189 --> 00:24:52,451 That's the no. 528 00:24:52,524 --> 00:24:54,321 If he's eating burgers and apple pie, 529 00:24:54,392 --> 00:24:56,019 we don't have a record of it. 530 00:24:56,094 --> 00:24:57,857 When Steinmetz filed immigration, 531 00:24:57,929 --> 00:24:59,453 did he show any ID? 532 00:24:59,531 --> 00:25:01,658 Hey, ifthis poor slob had a shirt on his back, 533 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:03,098 he was lucky. 534 00:25:03,268 --> 00:25:06,499 "Identifying mark: numbers tattooed on his forearm." 535 00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:08,402 What were the numbers? 536 00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:09,833 Sorry. 537 00:25:09,941 --> 00:25:12,034 In five years, about 150,000 camp survivors 538 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:14,044 joined the melting pot. 539 00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:16,444 Who had the time to get specific? 540 00:25:17,382 --> 00:25:20,647 The good news, the Nazis were methodical, bordering on anal. 541 00:25:20,752 --> 00:25:22,982 They kept specific records of everything. 542 00:25:23,088 --> 00:25:25,352 The bad news is they were almost as methodical 543 00:25:25,423 --> 00:25:26,913 at destroying the records. 544 00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:28,050 Almost? 545 00:25:28,126 --> 00:25:29,218 Yeah. 546 00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:30,686 Here. 547 00:25:31,496 --> 00:25:32,895 Here it is. 548 00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:35,628 [grunting] 549 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,828 Right here. "August 21, 1944, 550 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,568 "131 men arrived from the Lodz Ghetto at Auschwitz. 551 00:25:46,244 --> 00:25:49,077 "The numbers that were tattooed on their arms 552 00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:51,944 "ranged from 7566 553 00:25:53,184 --> 00:25:55,209 to 7696, inclusive." 554 00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:58,479 Do you have names corresponding to the numbers? 555 00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:00,751 I can't help you with that. But we do know that 556 00:26:00,825 --> 00:26:03,419 Jacub Skulman arrived on that same day. 557 00:26:04,663 --> 00:26:07,826 I'm offering your client a chance to prove his innocence. 558 00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:09,332 And when he does, what? 559 00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:11,631 You tattoo a capital "I" on his forehead? 560 00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:15,137 That number is a symbol of unimaginable suffering. 561 00:26:15,206 --> 00:26:17,470 And if it's not one of 131 numbers, 562 00:26:17,542 --> 00:26:19,908 we'll know for sure he's not Jacub Skulman. 563 00:26:19,978 --> 00:26:22,208 Don't you even see what you're asking, Ben? 564 00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:23,975 Demanding that he use that number 565 00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:26,313 to prove his innocence is an obscenity. 566 00:26:27,052 --> 00:26:28,110 Uh, no, Gary. 567 00:26:28,219 --> 00:26:30,813 The obscenity is a man killing his wife 568 00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:33,420 to save his own skin. 569 00:26:39,064 --> 00:26:40,759 We'll let ajudge decide. 570 00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:46,836 I don't understand, Mr. Lowenthal. 571 00:26:47,005 --> 00:26:50,168 If your client isn't this character, Skulman, 572 00:26:50,241 --> 00:26:52,402 why not disclose the number 573 00:26:52,477 --> 00:26:54,468 in the privacy of Mr. Stone's office, 574 00:26:54,546 --> 00:26:56,537 and put the matter to bed? 575 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,015 Because it won't stay in Mr. Stone's office. 576 00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:01,343 What happened to the Fifth Amendment? 577 00:27:01,419 --> 00:27:02,886 If nothing else, Mr. Stone 578 00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:04,819 is asking for possible self-incrimination. 579 00:27:04,889 --> 00:27:07,323 The Supreme Court ruled that the Fifth Amendment 580 00:27:07,392 --> 00:27:09,121 only applies to testimonial evidence. 581 00:27:09,227 --> 00:27:11,195 This is no different from using fingerprints 582 00:27:11,262 --> 00:27:13,196 or an identification in a police line-up. 583 00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:15,323 Look, can we put the law aside for a minute? 584 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,493 We all know that if these numbers are close, 585 00:27:17,569 --> 00:27:18,968 he doesn't stand a chance. 586 00:27:19,037 --> 00:27:21,437 The jury will convict him for the wrong reasons. 587 00:27:21,539 --> 00:27:24,007 Something he may have done in another lifetime. 588 00:27:24,075 --> 00:27:26,703 An elderly woman who couldn't walk is dead 589 00:27:26,778 --> 00:27:29,838 because that man wanted the world to forget what he did. 590 00:27:30,048 --> 00:27:31,879 I'm not talking melodrama here, Ben. 591 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:33,679 I'm talking tragedy. 592 00:27:34,786 --> 00:27:36,981 Your Honor, it's prejudicial. 593 00:27:37,922 --> 00:27:41,221 Although what Mr. Stone is asking disgusts me, 594 00:27:41,593 --> 00:27:44,391 my intestinal tract is still intact. 595 00:27:45,764 --> 00:27:48,528 Mr. Steinmetz will appear in Mr. Stone's office 596 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,068 no later than 3:00 this afternoon. 597 00:27:51,136 --> 00:27:53,798 Ben, you are walking through history. 598 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,166 God help us if you fall down. 599 00:28:03,548 --> 00:28:05,778 7581. 600 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:07,579 And we now know that the man 601 00:28:07,652 --> 00:28:09,244 calling himself David Steinmetz, 602 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,221 arrived at Auschwitz the same day as Jacub Skulman. 603 00:28:12,957 --> 00:28:14,049 I was hoping. 604 00:28:14,125 --> 00:28:15,387 Yeah, so was I. 605 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:16,984 [phone ringing] 606 00:28:20,331 --> 00:28:21,662 Robinette. 607 00:28:23,468 --> 00:28:24,526 Okay. 608 00:28:26,037 --> 00:28:29,200 Someone from the Justice Department is in your office. 609 00:28:30,175 --> 00:28:31,608 I'm giving you a break. 610 00:28:31,676 --> 00:28:33,234 I'll take Steinmetz or Skulman 611 00:28:33,311 --> 00:28:35,006 or whoever he is, off your hands. 612 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,570 And extradite him to Poland? 613 00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:39,048 Why not? We've had a treaty in effect since 1936. 614 00:28:39,117 --> 00:28:40,141 I have an obligation 615 00:28:40,218 --> 00:28:41,879 to the people of the State of New York. 616 00:28:41,953 --> 00:28:43,978 Ursula Steinmetz was one ofthose people. 617 00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:46,182 Poland can have him when we're through with him. 618 00:28:46,257 --> 00:28:47,918 One person dies, it's a tragedy. 619 00:28:47,992 --> 00:28:49,721 Millions, it's a statistic, right? 620 00:28:49,794 --> 00:28:51,193 That is not what I'm saying. 621 00:28:51,262 --> 00:28:53,457 Good. Stalin said it 50 years ago. 622 00:28:53,531 --> 00:28:55,328 Look, if you convict the son of a bitch, 623 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,834 he can't be extradited until he serves out his sentence. 624 00:28:57,902 --> 00:29:00,700 Which, for a 70-year-old man, means never. 625 00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,405 On behalf ofthe Polish government we're commencing 626 00:29:03,475 --> 00:29:05,966 an extradition proceeding next week. 627 00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:07,601 [phone ringing] 628 00:29:13,384 --> 00:29:16,478 Last month, my daughter was reading Diary ofAnne Frank, 629 00:29:16,554 --> 00:29:18,715 and she thought it was fiction. 630 00:29:19,224 --> 00:29:21,954 So I'm running in circles with this case. 631 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,050 Iflwin, 632 00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:27,930 Steinmetz or Skulman 633 00:29:29,667 --> 00:29:32,261 goes to prison for murdering his wife, 634 00:29:32,537 --> 00:29:34,937 but the world will never really know 635 00:29:35,073 --> 00:29:37,735 the extent of his original crimes. 636 00:29:38,476 --> 00:29:41,240 And ifl lose, the verdict goes along way 637 00:29:41,312 --> 00:29:43,610 to bolster Steinmetz's claim 638 00:29:45,016 --> 00:29:48,247 that Poland is trying to extradite the wrong man. 639 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,485 Either way, 640 00:29:51,022 --> 00:29:55,015 I'm helping a mass murderer cover up his crimes. 641 00:29:59,130 --> 00:30:00,358 [sighing] 642 00:30:01,399 --> 00:30:04,391 Ben, a woman was murdered in ourjurisdiction. 643 00:30:05,436 --> 00:30:07,631 And that's our only priority. 644 00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:11,368 So we shield him? 645 00:30:13,611 --> 00:30:15,943 Poland is not entitled 646 00:30:16,014 --> 00:30:17,879 to punish him for the greater evil? 647 00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:19,616 Greater evil? 648 00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:22,384 Since when did you get so philosophical? 649 00:30:22,687 --> 00:30:27,056 This office doesn't care about Poles or Nazis 650 00:30:27,158 --> 00:30:30,025 or any more than it does about Serbs or Croats. 651 00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:32,122 We're not in the evil business, 652 00:30:32,197 --> 00:30:34,028 we're in the crime business. 653 00:30:34,265 --> 00:30:37,962 Adam, I may be wrong but Ithought that, of all people, 654 00:30:38,436 --> 00:30:40,063 you would want... 655 00:30:41,339 --> 00:30:43,307 The man killed his wife. 656 00:30:43,708 --> 00:30:46,472 Try him, convict him. That's all I want. 657 00:30:53,651 --> 00:30:55,642 United States Supreme Court, Your Honor, 658 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,779 in Younger v. Harris determined 659 00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:59,982 that a Federal court may not interfere 660 00:31:00,058 --> 00:31:02,219 with an ongoing State criminal proceeding 661 00:31:02,293 --> 00:31:03,624 unless the prosecution was 662 00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:05,663 brought in bad faith or as harassment. 663 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:08,858 The Younger case specified the interference proscribed 664 00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:11,333 was injunctive or declaratory relief, Your Honor. 665 00:31:11,402 --> 00:31:13,427 And the principle is the same, Your Honor. 666 00:31:13,504 --> 00:31:15,472 The State's interest in prosecuting a felon 667 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:16,905 outweigh the Federal interest. 668 00:31:16,975 --> 00:31:18,806 We're not talking about Federal interests. 669 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:20,742 We're talking about international treaties. 670 00:31:20,812 --> 00:31:22,803 We are talking about historical debt. 671 00:31:22,881 --> 00:31:25,645 We're talking about a man who brutally murdered his wife. 672 00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,116 He aided and abetted 673 00:31:27,185 --> 00:31:30,416 in the extermination of scores of innocent Jews. 674 00:31:30,521 --> 00:31:31,818 The bottom line: 675 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,154 Ifthe State continues with this prosecution, 676 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:36,557 Mr. Steinmetz will die in prison 677 00:31:36,628 --> 00:31:39,028 and never be tried for crimes against humanity. 678 00:31:39,130 --> 00:31:42,293 And we must allow a suspected murderer to go untried. 679 00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:44,699 He will be tried for the greater evil. 680 00:31:44,802 --> 00:31:47,464 Gentlemen, it appears that whichever way I roll the dice, 681 00:31:47,538 --> 00:31:48,869 it comes up snake eyes. 682 00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:49,964 Your Honor-- 683 00:31:50,041 --> 00:31:52,202 Mr. Stone, has the defendant been indicted? 684 00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:53,744 He has, Your Honor. 685 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,209 the State has sufficient evidence 686 00:31:57,282 --> 00:31:59,477 to make its prima facie case. 687 00:32:00,151 --> 00:32:03,484 In as much as the burden for granting a restraining order, 688 00:32:03,554 --> 00:32:05,715 is the likelihood of success at trial, 689 00:32:05,790 --> 00:32:08,623 I am obligated to grant Mr. Stone's motion. 690 00:32:09,661 --> 00:32:12,129 The extradition hearing will be delayed 691 00:32:12,196 --> 00:32:14,790 until the State is through with Mr. Steinmetz. 692 00:32:14,866 --> 00:32:16,094 [gavel banging] 693 00:32:16,167 --> 00:32:19,830 I'm glad I'm not in your 9-and-a-half Ds, counselor. 694 00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:25,601 Several months ago, at half past midnight, 695 00:32:25,677 --> 00:32:29,477 someone killed Ursula Steinmetz. 696 00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:32,879 He held a pillow to the face 697 00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:35,582 ofthis 70-year-old grandmother 698 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:39,219 until she could no longer gasp for air. 699 00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:45,221 I will show you that pillow and the bloodstains on it 700 00:32:46,097 --> 00:32:48,065 from her fractured nose. 701 00:32:49,901 --> 00:32:54,235 So there can belittle doubt as to how she died. 702 00:32:56,374 --> 00:32:59,309 The issue ofthis trial is why, 703 00:33:00,578 --> 00:33:04,605 and once we understand why, the who is undeniable. 704 00:33:07,051 --> 00:33:09,952 The Steinmetz residence was not burglarized. 705 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:13,385 So the motive wasn't greed, and it wasn't envy, 706 00:33:13,458 --> 00:33:15,255 and it wasn't revenge. 707 00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:16,917 It was history. 708 00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:22,095 And Mr. David Steinmetz, Ursula's husband, 709 00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:26,994 was well aware that history can only be written 710 00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:29,199 by the survivors. 711 00:33:30,708 --> 00:33:32,369 And Mr. Steinmetz, 712 00:33:33,544 --> 00:33:37,776 he didn't want his personal history written at all. 713 00:33:42,153 --> 00:33:44,417 If only history was so clear. 714 00:33:45,223 --> 00:33:48,158 If only we had a witness to what had happened, 715 00:33:48,659 --> 00:33:51,184 then we could all just go home and be done with it. 716 00:33:51,262 --> 00:33:54,060 Unfortunately, there isn't such a witness. 717 00:33:54,499 --> 00:33:55,966 And although Mr. Stone's 718 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,468 telling ofthe story is reasonable, 719 00:33:59,237 --> 00:34:01,398 it's just as reasonable to presume 720 00:34:01,472 --> 00:34:04,566 that after swallowing a lethal dose of sedatives, 721 00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:09,142 Ursula Steinmetz fell from her bed and broke her nose. 722 00:34:10,748 --> 00:34:12,875 Mr. Stone wants to know why. 723 00:34:14,352 --> 00:34:16,820 If anything, history tells us 724 00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:18,788 that the search for explanations 725 00:34:18,856 --> 00:34:22,622 for unimaginable tragedy creates scapegoats. 726 00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:28,190 Why was Germany in the '20s trapped in a depression? 727 00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:31,463 Unthinkable. Blame it on the Jews. 728 00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:35,666 Why were six million Jews massacred? 729 00:34:36,107 --> 00:34:37,734 Incomprehensible. 730 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,435 They must have been somehow to blame. 731 00:34:43,347 --> 00:34:46,544 Ursula Steinmetz took her own life? 732 00:34:48,352 --> 00:34:49,842 Inconceivable. 733 00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:54,547 Her husband must have been involved. 734 00:34:56,961 --> 00:35:00,089 David Steinmetz survived a lifetime of torment. 735 00:35:01,032 --> 00:35:02,226 For what? 736 00:35:03,201 --> 00:35:06,659 Don't blame him for something you might not understand. 737 00:35:08,473 --> 00:35:11,465 From records compiled by the Polish government, 738 00:35:11,542 --> 00:35:14,943 we know that Jacub Skulman resided in the Lodz Ghetto. 739 00:35:15,713 --> 00:35:17,943 He was transported to Auschwitz 740 00:35:18,182 --> 00:35:20,707 on August 21, 1944. 741 00:35:21,185 --> 00:35:22,379 The same day that 742 00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:24,683 Mr. Steinmetz supposedly arrived. 743 00:35:26,224 --> 00:35:29,421 Uh, Mr. Green, can you please identify 744 00:35:30,528 --> 00:35:33,361 People's Exhibit Number 6? 745 00:35:35,666 --> 00:35:37,497 Yes. Uh, this is a determination 746 00:35:37,568 --> 00:35:39,695 ofthe Polish War Crimes Court 747 00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:41,635 in the matter of Jacub Skulman. 748 00:35:41,706 --> 00:35:43,071 Objection, Your Honor. 749 00:35:43,174 --> 00:35:45,642 Uh, Your Honor, this court can take judicial notice 750 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:47,109 ofthe findings of another court 751 00:35:47,178 --> 00:35:48,543 of competent jurisdiction. 752 00:35:48,613 --> 00:35:50,877 Not when those findings are completely irrelevant 753 00:35:50,948 --> 00:35:52,472 and unduly prejudicial. 754 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:53,710 The verdict ofthat trial 755 00:35:53,784 --> 00:35:55,911 is relevant to establishing motive, Your Honor. 756 00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:59,445 So, then I will take notice ofthe verdict alone. 757 00:36:00,558 --> 00:36:02,822 Uh, what was the outcome ofthe trial, sir? 758 00:36:02,894 --> 00:36:04,691 The court found Mr. Skulman 759 00:36:04,762 --> 00:36:07,094 guilty of crimes against humanity. 760 00:36:07,198 --> 00:36:08,460 Thank you. 761 00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:12,092 In the Polish war crimes trial of which you spoke, 762 00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:14,965 was Mr. Skulman permitted to present a defense? 763 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:18,008 He was tried in absentia, but there were defense attorneys. 764 00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:20,077 Was there any evidence presented 765 00:36:20,144 --> 00:36:23,341 indicating that Jacub Skulman and David Steinmetz 766 00:36:23,414 --> 00:36:25,075 were in fact the same person? 767 00:36:25,149 --> 00:36:26,173 No. 768 00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:27,808 But there was evidence presented 769 00:36:27,885 --> 00:36:29,250 that Skulman was a Jew? 770 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,878 Relevance, Your Honor? 771 00:36:30,955 --> 00:36:33,617 Mr. Stone offered the verdict into evidence. 772 00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:35,181 I should be permitted 773 00:36:35,259 --> 00:36:37,489 to question the competency of that verdict. 774 00:36:37,562 --> 00:36:38,927 Answer the question. 775 00:36:38,996 --> 00:36:40,088 Yes. 776 00:36:40,164 --> 00:36:41,825 Now, tell me, sir. 777 00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:46,263 Would your center consider Jacub Skulman a war criminal? 778 00:36:47,905 --> 00:36:48,894 [sighing] 779 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,374 You have to understand that, uh, 780 00:36:51,442 --> 00:36:53,501 that men like Mr. Skulman, 781 00:36:54,145 --> 00:36:56,443 were victims before they were criminals. 782 00:36:56,681 --> 00:36:58,672 Please answer the question. 783 00:36:59,450 --> 00:37:02,647 No, I--I couldn't say, unless I saw all ofthe facts. 784 00:37:02,853 --> 00:37:04,286 But Poland could. 785 00:37:04,522 --> 00:37:08,014 Is that because Jacub Skulman is a Jew? 786 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:09,990 Objection, Your Honor. 787 00:37:11,596 --> 00:37:12,927 Withdrawn. 788 00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:19,229 I was only 16 years old, 789 00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:21,996 and to put food on the table, 790 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:26,032 my sister and I had to work 15 hours a day 791 00:37:26,143 --> 00:37:27,974 making Nazi uniforms. 792 00:37:28,279 --> 00:37:30,839 We got no water, we got no rest. 793 00:37:32,316 --> 00:37:36,912 Our shop was forced to produce 25 uniforms a week. 794 00:37:37,655 --> 00:37:39,953 What happened if you fell behind schedule? 795 00:37:40,524 --> 00:37:43,049 Jacub Skulman beat us. 796 00:37:44,428 --> 00:37:47,124 He beat everyone who was not productive. 797 00:37:48,899 --> 00:37:51,299 Mrs. Liebman, please tell the court 798 00:37:51,736 --> 00:37:53,931 what happened to your sister. 799 00:37:54,739 --> 00:37:55,933 Anja... 800 00:37:56,941 --> 00:38:00,809 Anja was rheumatic. She collapsed. 801 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,748 Skulman put her on a train. 802 00:38:06,651 --> 00:38:10,018 Anyone unable to work, he put on a train. 803 00:38:10,955 --> 00:38:12,217 To where? 804 00:38:12,723 --> 00:38:14,190 To Auschwitz. 805 00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:16,854 Mrs. Liebman, what happened when 806 00:38:16,927 --> 00:38:19,862 you spoke of Jacub Skulman to Mrs. Steinmetz? 807 00:38:20,431 --> 00:38:24,629 She asked questions about his father's profession. 808 00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:27,163 About his brother's name. 809 00:38:27,471 --> 00:38:30,531 And if his brother, Chaim, died from polio. 810 00:38:31,342 --> 00:38:33,310 And when I told her that 811 00:38:33,377 --> 00:38:35,538 his mama played a beautiful flute, 812 00:38:36,847 --> 00:38:38,405 Ursula got pale. 813 00:38:40,751 --> 00:38:42,082 Thank you. 814 00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:48,784 You said that the workers who were not productive 815 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,788 were sent to the camps. Is that correct? 816 00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:54,521 He decided who. 817 00:38:55,232 --> 00:38:57,928 And they were replaced by other workers? 818 00:38:58,436 --> 00:38:59,494 Yes. 819 00:38:59,603 --> 00:39:01,662 And ifthose workers were productive, 820 00:39:01,739 --> 00:39:03,536 they avoided deportation? 821 00:39:04,208 --> 00:39:05,300 Yes. 822 00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:10,870 So it's true then that Skulman saved the majority 823 00:39:10,948 --> 00:39:13,075 by sacrificing the minority? 824 00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:22,582 Look at the defendant, Mrs. Liebman. 825 00:39:22,827 --> 00:39:25,318 Can you say without any reasonable doubt 826 00:39:26,263 --> 00:39:28,288 that he is Jacub Skulman? 827 00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:41,308 Thank you. 828 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:48,848 We're walking up the down escalator. 829 00:39:48,919 --> 00:39:50,580 Every time we get close to the top, 830 00:39:50,654 --> 00:39:52,246 Lowenthal turns up the velocity. 831 00:39:52,323 --> 00:39:53,915 (Schiff) What'd you expect? 832 00:39:53,991 --> 00:39:55,515 Trying to reconstruct a reality, 833 00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:57,493 that's worse than any nightmare. 834 00:39:57,561 --> 00:40:00,394 Which gives Lowenthal a truckload of reasonable doubt. 835 00:40:00,464 --> 00:40:02,694 As to Steinmetz's true identity, 836 00:40:02,833 --> 00:40:05,097 what's relevant is what his wife thought. 837 00:40:05,169 --> 00:40:07,729 What's relevant is what he thought she was thinking. 838 00:40:07,805 --> 00:40:10,899 And he's not talking, and she kept her thoughts to herself. 839 00:40:10,975 --> 00:40:12,203 Did she? 840 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:13,741 The rabbi? 841 00:40:13,878 --> 00:40:16,676 If Mrs. Steinmetz talked to him, it's privileged. 842 00:40:16,747 --> 00:40:18,339 But her executor can waive that. 843 00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:20,350 That's the daughter, right? 844 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:24,115 He's my father, Mr. Stone. He would never lie to me. 845 00:40:24,188 --> 00:40:27,316 And if my mother suspected anything, I would have known. 846 00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:29,757 Maybe she was trying to protect you. 847 00:40:30,194 --> 00:40:31,218 No. 848 00:40:31,762 --> 00:40:34,287 There's a chance she talked to your rabbi. 849 00:40:40,704 --> 00:40:42,001 [sighing] 850 00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:44,601 Whatever you want. 851 00:40:45,543 --> 00:40:48,011 But you'll see. You are wrong. 852 00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:55,750 When Ursula heard 853 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:57,879 Mrs. Liebman's description of Skulman, 854 00:40:57,955 --> 00:40:59,513 she was convinced. 855 00:40:59,723 --> 00:41:01,884 There were too many similarities. 856 00:41:02,059 --> 00:41:05,051 After her husband denied everything, she came to me. 857 00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:07,621 And how did you counsel her? 858 00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:10,798 I told her to go to the authorities. 859 00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:12,762 But she refused? 860 00:41:14,271 --> 00:41:17,365 She was filled with too much guilt, with shame. 861 00:41:17,775 --> 00:41:20,608 She worried what it would do to her family. 862 00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:23,710 Thank you. 863 00:41:34,391 --> 00:41:37,292 You counsel many survivors, isn't that true? 864 00:41:37,828 --> 00:41:40,023 I conduct weekly meetings, yes. 865 00:41:40,097 --> 00:41:43,066 And is it true that many survivors 866 00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:45,567 live with enormous guilt over the past? 867 00:41:46,804 --> 00:41:49,830 They feel guilty about surviving when so many died. 868 00:41:50,441 --> 00:41:51,965 As a therapist, 869 00:41:52,877 --> 00:41:55,710 would you call this guilt irrational? 870 00:41:57,815 --> 00:42:00,079 No. Ursula Steinmetz wasn't like that. 871 00:42:00,384 --> 00:42:03,012 That's right. She didn't blame herself. 872 00:42:03,487 --> 00:42:05,387 She blamed her husband. 873 00:42:08,325 --> 00:42:11,260 When she got sick, he did everything for her. 874 00:42:11,795 --> 00:42:14,855 He carried her to the bathroom, up the stairs. 875 00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:17,900 On Sundays, he would wheel her through the park 876 00:42:17,968 --> 00:42:20,061 no matter how tired he got. 877 00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:22,604 (Lowenthal) Not the picture of a murderer. 878 00:42:22,673 --> 00:42:23,799 Objection. 879 00:42:23,874 --> 00:42:25,205 Withdrawn. 880 00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:28,242 What, if any, indications did you have 881 00:42:28,312 --> 00:42:31,372 that your mother committed suicide, Mrs. Feder? 882 00:42:33,651 --> 00:42:37,348 Over the past five months, her condition deteriorated. 883 00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:41,357 She didn't want to burden us anymore. 884 00:42:43,494 --> 00:42:44,722 After... 885 00:42:45,362 --> 00:42:48,297 A few days before she died, I--I went to visit her 886 00:42:48,365 --> 00:42:50,890 and she showed me where she kept her will. 887 00:42:51,101 --> 00:42:54,832 She told me that she wanted to have all her things in order. 888 00:42:58,042 --> 00:42:59,168 No more questions. 889 00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:01,370 She never talked about the will in her deposition. 890 00:43:01,445 --> 00:43:02,776 She's lying. 891 00:43:02,846 --> 00:43:04,370 Recess, Your Honor? 892 00:43:04,481 --> 00:43:06,506 Early lunch. Be back in two hours. 893 00:43:09,086 --> 00:43:10,610 If you're telling the truth, 894 00:43:10,688 --> 00:43:13,452 why did you wait until now to mention your mother's will? 895 00:43:13,524 --> 00:43:14,821 You heard the rabbi. 896 00:43:14,892 --> 00:43:16,223 It's clear he killed your mother. 897 00:43:16,293 --> 00:43:17,555 Knowing what your father did, 898 00:43:17,628 --> 00:43:19,823 how can you live with yourself if you help him go free? 899 00:43:19,897 --> 00:43:21,626 How could I live with myself if I don't? 900 00:43:21,699 --> 00:43:24,259 'Cause you're losing, doesn't mean you can change the rules. 901 00:43:24,335 --> 00:43:25,768 This is called tampering. 902 00:43:25,836 --> 00:43:27,269 I'm not tampering with a witness. 903 00:43:27,338 --> 00:43:29,067 I am now talking to a defendant. 904 00:43:29,139 --> 00:43:31,164 Mrs. Feder, you committed perjury. 905 00:43:31,241 --> 00:43:33,675 As such, you are an accomplice after the fact. 906 00:43:33,744 --> 00:43:35,939 You cannot turn Mara against me. 907 00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:38,140 Things haven't changed much, have they, sir? 908 00:43:38,215 --> 00:43:39,773 50 years ago, you protected yourself 909 00:43:39,850 --> 00:43:41,249 at the expense of others. 910 00:43:41,318 --> 00:43:42,615 Your wife is now dead, 911 00:43:42,686 --> 00:43:45,712 and your daughter's gonna go to prison so you can go free. 912 00:43:46,523 --> 00:43:48,616 [sobbing] Papa. 913 00:43:56,266 --> 00:43:58,791 Against my better judgment, my client will deal 914 00:43:58,869 --> 00:44:01,394 if you drop the charges against his daughter. 915 00:44:02,573 --> 00:44:05,838 We've traveled along way to come back to where we started. 916 00:44:05,909 --> 00:44:08,639 (Mara) There's one other condition, Mr. Stone. 917 00:44:08,746 --> 00:44:11,408 The record on my father's trial must be sealed. 918 00:44:14,218 --> 00:44:16,379 Murder two. He serves the max. 919 00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:18,679 25 years. Come on, Ben. 920 00:44:19,156 --> 00:44:21,454 Had he walked the streets for another hour, 921 00:44:21,525 --> 00:44:24,460 nobody would have ever heard of David Steinmetz. 922 00:44:27,665 --> 00:44:29,064 Mr. Steinmetz. 923 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,825 Sir, you really didn't know 924 00:44:32,903 --> 00:44:35,303 how many pills your wife had taken? 925 00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:37,701 She could not live with this. 926 00:44:38,308 --> 00:44:40,776 When I came home, she was on the floor. 927 00:44:40,944 --> 00:44:43,310 And if you confessed to assisted suicide, 928 00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:45,610 nobody would ask any questions. 929 00:44:45,983 --> 00:44:48,451 It'd be one year instead of 25. Right? 930 00:44:49,653 --> 00:44:53,145 Heinrich, an SS officer, he came to our home. 931 00:44:53,457 --> 00:44:56,221 He gave us cake. We barely had bread. 932 00:44:57,061 --> 00:44:58,153 He told me that if I could 933 00:44:58,228 --> 00:45:00,628 convince my neighbors to cooperate, 934 00:45:01,231 --> 00:45:03,028 none of us would be harmed. 935 00:45:04,101 --> 00:45:07,537 I was 19. If I didn't do it, somebody else would have. 936 00:45:08,372 --> 00:45:11,364 People lived a few months, weeks, 937 00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:16,343 days longer. That's what it was about. 938 00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:20,407 People who were not there, 939 00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:23,716 they could never understand. 940 00:45:25,255 --> 00:45:27,246 Your wife was there, sir. 941 00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:29,655 She understood very well what you did. 942 00:45:29,927 --> 00:45:32,088 And that's why you killed her. 943 00:45:41,071 --> 00:45:42,231 Deal? 944 00:45:45,242 --> 00:45:47,233 (male reporter) What happens now, Mr. Stone? 945 00:45:47,311 --> 00:45:50,144 Mr. Steinmetz has confessed to murdering his wife 946 00:45:50,214 --> 00:45:51,909 and he will spend the rest of his life 947 00:45:51,982 --> 00:45:54,348 in the State Correctional Facility at Dannemora, 948 00:45:54,418 --> 00:45:55,817 commencing immediately. 949 00:45:55,886 --> 00:45:58,548 (male reporter) Is Mr. Steinmetz in fact Jacub Skulman? 950 00:45:58,622 --> 00:46:01,455 The District Attorney’s office has insufficient evidence 951 00:46:01,525 --> 00:46:03,493 to make such a determination. 952 00:46:03,794 --> 00:46:06,388 (female announcer) Sources inside the State Department 953 00:46:06,463 --> 00:46:08,897 indicate that any further extradition proceedings 954 00:46:08,966 --> 00:46:11,025 have been undermined by today’s developments. 955 00:46:11,101 --> 00:46:12,363 Mr. Steinmetz’s... 956 00:46:13,837 --> 00:46:15,634 They beat you. They starve you. 957 00:46:15,706 --> 00:46:18,038 Makes me wonder what I would have done. 958 00:46:18,675 --> 00:46:21,701 There's no Supreme Court of Ethics, my friend. 959 00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:24,009 Sometimes the only yardstick is 960 00:46:24,515 --> 00:46:27,507 can you look yourself in the mirror the day after? 961 00:46:27,684 --> 00:46:29,276 What about Mara? 962 00:46:29,686 --> 00:46:31,415 By insisting we seal the file, 963 00:46:31,488 --> 00:46:33,752 she was still protecting her father. 964 00:46:34,191 --> 00:46:36,216 She wasn't protecting her father. 965 00:46:36,493 --> 00:46:38,586 She was protecting her son. 71821

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