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Original subtitles

-So, my dears, we meet again.

Let me remind you of a tale set in my homeland of Scotland.

A tale full of deception, manipulation, murder,

and some fabulous outfits.

You're welcome.

A tale of 20 of America's most calculating players,

transported to my highland castle.

-Rachel is a traitor!

-Someone is getting murdered tonight!

[ Laughing, whooping ]

Ultimately, a traitor took home

a cool quarter of a million dollars,

and now the players are together under one roof

once more for a special reunion celebration.

What could possibly go wrong?

There's only one man I trust to stir this treacherous pot

and find out what really went down back in my castle.

Hey, Alan!

Any advice? -Yes.

Don't ask any of them to spell Geraldine.

-Okay.

-Don't mention community theater.

-All right.

-And make liberal use of the words murder

and dollars.

-I can do that.

The "Traitors" Season 1 reunion starts now.

-That's a bit too much, actually,

just bring it down. Bring it down.

-The "Traitors" Season 1 reunion

starts now.

-Better.

**

-Welcome to the "Traitors" Season 1 reunion.

I'm your host, Andy Cohen,

taking a look back at this season

with the most notorious group

of backstabbers on television.

But before we meet them, let's check in

with their victims, the Faithfuls.

Welcome, Faithfuls. -Hi, Andy.

-Hi. -Hey, Michael.

You've undergone quite the transformation.

-I've lost about 50 pounds since the show.

-Good for you! [ Cheering and applause ]

You look great. Hey, Kate.

-I've gained 50. -Yes.

Congratulations on your bundle of joy.

-Thank you. -When are you due?

-May 8th. -Wow. Congratulations.

-Thank you, thank you.

-Did you bring your resting bitch face with you today?

-I always have it with me. -Yes, you do.

And speaking of baby news: Hey, Andie.

-Hey. -Your wife had your baby.

How are things going at home?

-It's amazing, honestly. I'm just... I'm so happy.

I love -- I love Milo.

And I love Jess so much. It's everything I've dreamed of.

-That's great. I'm so happy for you.

And maybe there was something in the water

in the Traitor's castle,

because, Ryan, your wife is pregnant.

Oh, yeah!

-Number three! -Wow.

-It's a girl, I'm so excited.

-Congratulations. That's great.

And the Faithful who voted wrong the most at the roundtable --

Quentin! [ Laughter ]

And I guess we're trying to populate the world

with a crew of many Traitors,

because you also had a baby. -Yes.

-Congratulations. -Thank you. Thank you so much.

-Wow. -She's five months.

She's beautiful. She's perfect. And I couldn't be happier.

-Great. Reza and Brandi are unfortunately

not able to join us tonight.

Now, let's welcome the devious crew

with cloaks on their backs and blood on their hands.

It's the Traitors:

Cody Calafiore, Christian de la Tori,

Arie Luyendyk Jr.,

and the winner of "The Traitors" Season 1, Cirie Fields.

[ Applause ]

Great to see you all.

Cody, we've met a few times.

I never knew you to be so deceptive.

-It was a new role for me, to be 100% honest.

It was very difficult.

-Christian, good to see you. -Pleasure to meet you.

-That's the look you went with tonight, huh?

-This is the look I go with every night.

Just something nice. And it's got a collar.

-Right. How many of those hats do you own?

-This is my only one. -That's your only one?!

-This is the only hat. Yeah. -Wow!

Cirie, $250,000 looks really good on you.

-Thank you, Andy. -After all those times

on "Survivor" -- four times on "Survivor" --

what did it feel like to win a huge show.

-In the moment, you know, it was a lot going on,

so I really couldn't revel in the fact that I won.

But after, and I got home and I told my family,

and I thought about it,

it felt awesome to finally do it.

-Well, "Survivor" fans refer to Cirie

as the best to never win.

But after playing a masterfully deceptive game

and taking home all "The Traitors" prize money,

her new nickname should be simply the best.

Let's take a look at Cirie's journey from Traitor to winner.

-[ Giggling ] I'm so excited.

I know I can do this. You think I could be a Traitor?

See, that was good, right?

I got to stay under the radar.

It's exhilarating.

-There she is. -Hello, Kyle.

-My guess is it's Cirie, but I don't want it to be.

-Brandi could have a little stinky eye on me.

It is quite stressful, but you never let 'em see you sweat.

-Cirie would be a good Traitor. -There's absolutely no way.

I know for a fact she's not.

Kyle's very vocal, but I love Cirie.

Rachel and Cirie and I have had an alliance since day one.

-In this castle, Cirie is the one person

that has been a constant for me.

That's like my family.

-If Andie is in support of you,

and most of the people trust Andie,

I think it gives you safety.

-I know that Cirie is a Faithful.

-You're my girl, so... -Arie, I got you.

I'm telling you. -I trust both of you.

-Same. -Same.

-I'm a Faithful. -I'm a Faithful.

-I am a Faithful. -You know I'm a Faithful.

I know they are Faithful. -Yes.

-I don't think it's Cirie. -It's not Cirie.

Cirie wouldn't do us like that.

-Yeah. I love it when a plan comes together.

-That would hurt me.

**

-Cirie, are you a Faithful

or are you a Traitor?

-Cirie is showing future Traitors

how they need to play this game.

-I'm a Traitor in this game.

The guilt is overwhelming.

How can I not feel guilty? Because I betrayed them.

I betrayed them.

-You played a fantastic game. -Thank you.

-Congratulations. -Thank you, Andy.

-Show of hands. Who disagrees with how Cirie played the game?

-Arie. -Ooh.

-She kept the people that she knew she could manipulate

and that would drink her lemonade till the end.

-And Stephenie, what was your reaction?

-Here's the thing. When Cirie won, I was so happy

for her because if it wasn't me, I wanted it to be her.

But then watching the show back,

I felt like I protected her so much

and she didn't really protect me.

-Cirie, did you keep Stephenie around because of

her blind loyalty to you?

-Yes. I kept -- I wanted my allies to stay.

And I know Stephenie personally. We're friends outside of that.

So, if she could stay as long as she possibly can,

and I have anything to do with it,

absolutely, I'm going to make that happen.

-And that's kind of what I was doing, too.

Like, I didn't have confirmation she was a Traitor.

I was pretty damn certain she was.

-Are you friends now? -Yes.

Except for I haven't heard from you in a long time.

-Why, 'cause your phone's broke? -I've been talking to Kate

more than I talk to you!

I'm like, "Where's Cirie?!"

-I'm curious, Kate,

what was your reaction

when you saw that final bit play out

in the last episode?

-I thought it was masterful on Cirie's part.

I was not surprised Cirie was a Traitor.

I was happy for her to win.

I think she deserved it.

-How has your life changed since you've won the money?

-Um, I wasn't really done anything yet.

I plan on getting a little house for my mom,

so it takes a little bit of time.

So, I haven't really made any big purchase or anything.

No jewelry.

-April T. on Facebook just wants to know if you were tempted

to give any of your winnings to the other two final players.

-Honestly, in a perfect world, we would have all been able

to split the money, but, yeah, I didn't think about,

"Should I give Andie money? Should I give Quentin money?"

It's not like it's -- If it was $1,000,000,

it might be different; it's $250,000.

So, yeah, I don't know. I didn't think about that.

-What was your reaction

to getting tapped and being a Traitor?

-So, when Alan started, in my mind,

he's going to go right around and tap people.

So he walked past me a few times,

I'm like, "Damn, he didn't pick me."

And then the third time he came, I felt the tap.

And the only thing I thought was "calm down,"

because they're going to see your jugular going like this.

My heart was going like a million miles a minute.

And I thought as soon as we lifted the blindfolds,

everybody would see it on my face.

So I had to focus on my breathing

and try to calm myself down. -Wow.

What about you, Christian? -I mean, it's pretty obvious

that I was really fired up to be a Traitor.

I literally mouthed, "Let's [bleep] go."

And I remember he walked around, like, once or twice.

I was really disappointed

'cause I thought -- I really wanted to be a Traitor.

And being my first time ever on reality television, I was like,

what better option to be a villain in a show?

I thought it'd be fun. -What is your day job?

-I'm an actor and I'm also just a content creator.

-So curious, from those of you

who don't have a reality background,

what was your reaction about

getting to compete on this show

with some of the greats -- and an Olympian

and a Housewife?

What was your -- I mean, were you fans of their shows?

Were you familiar with them?

-I was excited about Rachel

because I've watched her for so long.

And it's funny, we ended up not getting along

in the show, like, "Girl!"

But excited. -Yeah.

-I'm a die hard "Survivor" fan,

I immediately knew Steph and Cirie,

and then of course, "Big Brother."

I'm more of an old-school fan, though,

so Rachel was more my excitement.

I would have blindly followed all three of those ladies

to the moon and back.

I would have never voted for one of them.

-I've been a part of Bachelor Nation for 15 years.

I hated Arie!

I hated -- I hated --

He is literally -- -By the way,

why did you hate him? Let's just --

-Because, I mean, do you remember what happened

with his season?!

[ Laughter ]

He's in, like, a little takeback.

I am obsessed with him.

He is one of the greatest people I've ever met.

-Aww, thank you. -So, like to --

It's crazy, 'cause not being from that reality TV setting

and thinking you have this strong opinion on someone

and then meeting them, instantly obsessed.

-Yeah. Christian's controversial

run as a Traitor gets an A for effort,

even if his fellow Traitors thought it was giving

bad B-movie acting.

Eventually, his bull in a china shop approach

led the Faithfuls to call bull

on his performance -- watch. -Oh, God!

This is all I wanted.

I'm going to stab and murder

and destroy so many people.

-Christian. He's just been a little too extra.

-That may just be his way of, like,

also overcompensating for his nervousness.

-Christian is just like a labradoodle.

"I just love you," [gibberish].

-Hi, hi, hi! I want to sit next to the B-boys.

What's up? What's up? Dude!

-Christian drives me nuts. He never stops talking.

-Christian's doing a lot of talking and explaining.

-I'm not saying you are, but there's still a chance

that one of you three could be a Traitor.

-I'm like, bro, like, you got to be careful.

-Man, we got one, though.

That's like, who would be with him?

Who would be, like, on his team?

-You're looking like a bad actor in a B-movie.

[ Cheering and applause ]

-Let's go!

My heart is going -- -I know we've all experienced

the same. -Who's left? What?!

Damn.

I have something to tell you all now.

-Oh, geez. -What? What?!

-After the last round table, I was recruited

to be a Traitor.

And I know this puts a massive target on my back.

-What are you doing?! I really don't know if anybody

is buying it. -I, uh. I messed up.

I messed up big time.

-It's now time to reveal your votes.

-Christian. -Christian.

-Christian. -I had to vote for you, Christian.

-I am a Traitor. -Yes!

-Dang dang, y'all -- 'ey,

crush it, good job, y'all. You're awesome.

-Imagine my surprise

when I found out that you are an actor.

[ Laughter ]

-The best part was, as bad is of acting as I was doing,

which I was, I was like, clearly acting

because I was not just the van guy, but 17 of y'all

didn't get me. -Yeah.

-We liked you! -Watching the show back.

What did you think of your performance?

Did you think you were over the top?

-I thought if I was another one of these people on the show,

I would have [bleep] hated myself.

Like, I would have been so annoyed,

I was so loud and so extra and so obnoxiously

"that guy," that it just passed over people

because I kept that the whole time.

-Was that part of your strategy? -It was.

I mean, I said that literally Episode 1.

I go, "I'm going to be the dumbest guy."

-He had a lot of suspicion around him,

but his name never would come up at the round table.

And the one thing you don't do at the round table is throw

a curveball and bring up a name for the first time.

-Right. -I have a question.

So, when Shelbe got voted out, you said you had crush on her.

-Yeah. You cried.

-Yeah. -You cried so hard,

you felt so bad. -Absolutely, yeah.

-So I just want to know,

was that good acting, or do you have a crush on Shelbe?

-No. So to answer your questions,

that was not good acting.

I actually did feel really bad, this was the toughest one

because it was so much further in the game.

And when I had to look her -- and she was standing up there,

I looked at her, I was like, "I'm so sorry,"

because I just felt so bad.

And I did have a crush on Shelbe.

I'll always have a crush on Shelby

because she's a beautiful woman and a very awesome mother.

And I think you're just a phenomenal lady overall.

-Did you ask her out? -I didn't ask her out.

-Okay. -But I've definitely been

talking to someone else through the cast.

-And that is. -Who?

-Good old Geraldine back here!

[ Cheering and applause ]

But, uh--

-He's just revealing right now!

-That just came naturally.

-You two are together?

-I mean, we're -- I would say we're, like, having fun.

We're definitely, I mean, one date.

Yeah, we're getting to know each other, one date

turned to two, and now it's five.

-We want the first Traitor baby!

[ Cheering and applause ] -Not a baby, there's no baby!

-The first Traitor baby!

-So, Christian, million-dollar question.

-Yeah? -How do you spell her name?

-Oh!

[ Laughter ] -I got it, I got it.

It's on --

-Give you a clue, it starts with a "G."

-Yeah, okay Well, it's a capital G,

E-R-A-L-D...

E-A-N. -No!

[ Laughter ] -I-N-E! I-N-E!

I-N-E!

Oh, God, I'm not going to live this one down.

-Coming up. -I never went after you,

you, you, you, you, you, you or any of you.

-What am I going to do, defend you?

-Cirie stabbed me in the back. -Everybody was using me.

-You can't play the victim here because you're not a victim.

-I thought these two were genuinely testing my alliance.

-There's more backstabbing in this place

than in a Shakespearean tragedy.

And I am like a less butch Agatha Christie

in a fabulous outfit.

[ Cheering and applause ]

Trust no one... except me, of course.

Your friendly neighborhood eccentric

with a wardrobe to die for.

-I think we can all agree that Alan was serving looks

this season -- welcome back to the "Traitors" reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen. Here's a question for the room.

What was your favorite Alan look this season?

-All of them! -All of them.

-Every one. -All of them.

-He's a gem, for sure. -And who has the best fashion

in this group, do we think?

-Rachel. -Oh, thank you.

-Just out of curiosity, because that's quite a ensemble, Rachel.

-Thank you.

-Do you like Rachel's outfit tonight?

-I like it because it's subtle. -Thank you. It's very subtle.

-I really think that you have moved on from community theater.

You look like

"Gone with the Wind" fabulous. [Indistinct]

[ Laughter ]

-When the round table was set for a banishment,

the knives always came out

just as someone's unlucky ass

was about to get cut.

-You're about to enter a world of backstabbing and treachery.

-You better vote for her. -Whoa!

-Rachel's a Traitor! -There's a Traitor among us.

And I believe it's you.

-It's Michael.

-I'm loud, I can get loud.

-But you're not crying tonight. -Oh, come on, Brandi.

-Something feels off. -It probably feels off

'cause you're a Traitor. -I'm a [bleep] Faithful!

Idiots!

-I myself am going to vote for Rachel.

-I'm not a Traitor. -I don't care.

-At one time, I suspected Quentin --

-Was not suspected -- -Let me finish!

-I've heard you talk a lot.

And it goes nowhere other than voting Faithfuls off.

The Traitor is trying to see if I take the bait

and start spreading that rumor.

-Is that Cody? -It's Cody.

-Just tell me a name. -Michael.

-Yeah. -Okay.

-Yes, I am.

[ Cheering and applause ] ...a Faithful.

Bye-bye, y'all! I wasn't lyin', y'all!

-I really thought he was.

-Christian is, like, so sketchy yesterday.

He was so sketchy. -You don't think Arie?

Does he have the shield?

-I do think Kate is a Traitor. -Yeah, I know.

-How many people have you named at this table?

Just do me a favor. Going around and name 'em.

Just do me a favor. -I've suspected everybody

at some point. -No, you haven't. Keep naming.

-I've been very open, so... [Bleep] you.

-You think I orchestrated this whole grand plan

to get out Cody? -Yes, I do.

-Okay. -My vote was for you, Cody.

-Cody. -I love you all.

So it is so not personal.

I am a Traitor. -Yes!

-Cody, I'm sorry.

Inside, I am dying a little bit for Cody.

Quentin is spending it on you real hard to the point

where Andie is almost locked in on you.

-I voted for you, Rachel. -Rachel.

-Don't do it.

-I did vote for you, Rachel.

-I'm hurt because I've been backstabbed

by each and every one of you.

-I'm sorry. -I'm a Faithful!

Y'all better get it together,

because none of you're going to win money.

-All right.

So, Quentin, Suzy from California points out

a sad statistic. -Okay.

-Uh,you were wrong about almost every person

you thought was a Traitor. -Mm-hmm.

Did this have any impact on your career as a political analyst?

[ Laughter ]

-You know what? Actually, no. It's done wonders. Right?

-I'm sure. -No, we're still going

and we're still building.

-Okay, I'm skipping around a little bit.

Michael, who do you blame for leading the charge against you?

-Cody. I 100% blame Cody because I was dying internally.

Maybe it was my -- it was my own doing that caused it.

He brings up my name starting the conversation out.

He then this is like, "Oh, Mike was a perfect shield.

Mike was the perfect shield," go straight to --

-Everybody else was saying your name.

So I started the conversation by mentioning

what everybody else said. -You knew that I was literally

having an anxiety attack. -Yeah.

-And struggling mentally in that moment.

-Yeah. -And you just pounced on it?

-Yeah. As a Traitor, that's what you're supposed to do --

when there's a name that's coming up that's not yours,

you go along with it. -You've made it personal

because you've made it all about yourself.

The game isn't about you, Michael.

It's about everybody trying to win the money.

-You definitely didn't make it about me because I definitely

was not one of your bros, and I wasn't one of

the dumb girls that you typically work with.

-Oh! -That's -- that's your M.O.

That's what you always go with on these shows.

-Michael, you're a big "Big Brother" fan.

-I'm a massive "Big Brother" fan.

-Did Cody disappoint you?

-Cody lived up to my expectation.

-Cindy from New York said,

"Rachel, you said you knew it was Cody from day one.

Why didn't you say anything or try to convince the others?"

-I did. I always would say, "It's Cody, it's Cody,"

and nobody would believe me.

I was very convinced from the way you were acting,

your -- you were being capricious,

you were being contemptuous and condescending.

And you're -- you're normally charming.

And I just didn't think that this was the Cody I knew.

And I mean, as we saw behind the scenes,

Cody was thinking I was obnoxious or whatever,

trying to convince people it was me.

So I think because we were butting heads like that

and Cody was saying it was me and I was saying it was Cody,

nobody wanted to believe either one of us.

-But, Rach, what I will say is that your name was coming up.

So as a Traitor, I had to just throw oil; it wasn't like,

What am I going to do, defend you, when I'm like,

I need Rachel to go because that helps me?

-And, Cody, what was your reaction

to what Cirie did in the end?

-At the end of the game? -Yeah.

-It's tough because it's a game, right?

So it's a game, but the personal side of it

is so hard to take out. And that's what --

-You're saying you couldn't have done it.

-I couldn't have done what you did

because I felt in the game what was happening

was exactly what's happening right now.

The personal side was coming and weighing on all of us a lot

because everybody was talking poorly about these Trai--

Like, when we murdered Bam, they were like,

"How could you do that to such a nice person?

These Traitors are horrible people!"

-Damn sure. When Cirie and Cody,

when we brought up Bam's name,

did I not be like, "Damn, this sucks"?

But I also thought you have to look at it from my perspective.

I thought these two were genuinely testing my alliance

to the Traitors -- I fought and fought against you

on episode two to say, "No, I'm not getting rid of Bam,"

you know what they would have done?

Christian's gone the next time. -Absolutely right.

-I thought he was a bro, like, I thought he had my six.

I had his six. So when I saw he text me

and, you know, I was salty about it

for a little bit because I'm loyal.

Like, it's just -- it didn't play out that way.

-He played the van guy pretty well.

He didn't tell anyone it was a veteran.

You did -- he did live a little bit of a lie.

You were the best spoken in the turret.

I don't about you, like,

"I live in a van down by the river."

[ Laughter ]

-This seems like a great place to take a break.

Coming up... -What a cancer in the group does

is it betrays your body,

it turns on you and it kills you because it's greedy.

That's actually what you did when you became a Traitor.

-You got outplayed. -You voted for me.

-I stood up for you as much as I could

without making myself a target. -Whoopsies.

-Welcome back to "The Traitors" Season 1 reunion.

Well, whether Kate was begging the Traitors to murder her

or throwing everyone's prize money down a hill,

we can all agree that her strategy was one half horrible,

one half genius, and 100% iconic.

So much so that the Traitors kept Kate around

as their wisecracking, well-dressed human shield.

Let's take a look. -Oh, God.

-I'm direct, I'm honest to a fault.

And fun fact, Sherlock Holmes

was my great, great grandfather's cousin.

-That was funny. -For me, it's like Shelbe.

-Shelbe, It does seem very obvious.

-How do you know for sure? Because you think I'm a Traitor.

I'm not. And I mean, I wouldn't pick that outfit,

so I don't think I trust your judgment completely.

-So now you're knocking my outfit?

-Kate is very direct.

Sunglasses on and off, intimidating.

-You lied. -Hey, if you don't trust me,

literally, that's okay, I'll do what I guess I have to do.

-I'm not gonna lose sleep over it either.

-Guys, I don't think we should just, like, go after one person.

-I do! I do! -I feel

very uncomfortable with that. -Come at me.

-I will. -Did you get your cape

dry cleaned last night?

-Rachel's personality

is so abrasive and annoying.

No, I like the bloodstains from each person I've murdered.

Oh, God, stop it. -Are you giving a eulogy now?

-What? No, she -- -Should we invite her back?

Too late? Life isn't fair. "Traitors" isn't fair.

We're gonna have to do this again tomorrow and the next day.

So... Gonna be a shame

if this money

went flying down the hillside at the last second.

I don't want to win money for Traitors.

"Whoo!" Get some dignity, y'all.

-Kate, I saw that. -Kate, why are you

throwing those in the woods?! -Because I'm a liability.

-Yo, Kate's throwing the money away.

-Yep.

-You're like literally a cancer to the group.

-Yeah. -Oh, really?

What about the Traitors taking your money

and killing you at night?

I think the Traitors are obsessed with me.

I'm a hostage.

I'm over it.

Was it something I said, you guys?

-Oh, man.

In case you're just tuning in, this woman was a chief stew

in the yachting world for years and years and years.

So you were -- you're plucked into this show.

We all know you at Bravo

as, you know, having resting bitch face

and saying exactly how you feel.

Well, you did the show why?

-I was told it was a castle in Scotland,

which sounded really great,

and I thought it would be like a psychological game.

And also, I had to wear a polyester polo shirt

and a skort for six years,

so I was really looking forward to wearing my own outfits.

And then I found out there were physical challenges,

and I was a lot less excited.

-So I'm curious, how did you all feel when you found out Kate

was not a Traitor? You were all so convinced.

-Can I just -- I never voted for you.

Not once until the very end.

-Until you did. -I'm not saying, like --

Nobody convinced me that it was you.

I always told people I know Kate's not a Traitor.

I said that over and over and over again to people.

So literally, to vote you out at the end was just

because we were getting down to numbers.

-I was shocked because I thought everything Kate did

was showing that she was a Traitor.

She would yell my name in the middle of the castle and say,

like, "Rachel's a Traitor!" And so, like --

And then you would be like, "It's not personal,

but you're a Traitor, and you look like you dress

community theater. -Yeah, I don't think --

I don't think Kate's name ever got brought up

once in the trial. -We were never murdering Kate.

-Like, I don't think it ever was like, Oh, we should murder Kate.

-Well, yeah, because you all agreed that you should use her--

-My name came up as like, "Oh, we've got to keep her."

-Yeah, yeah. We were like, literally,

we didn't have to do anything in the fact

that everyone just kept being like, "Kate is a Traitor,"

and they would never vote her off.

-I want to talk about Kate's note.

Kate, Amy from Wisconsin wants to know,

"Why didn't you take better care of the note?

Did you want someone to find it?"

It seemed very sloppy that you just...

-Yeah, I mean, whoopsies.

-So, why did you write the note? Because in my opinion,

coming from a background of being on reality shows,

I would never put anything in writing.

-I don't do competition reality shows usually.

So I didn't know that.

And also, there are 19 other people here

that I just met, so I am a visual learner.

-Nathan N. emailed for everybody,

"Why was that note enough evidence

for everyone to suspect Kate?

Wouldn't it be too obvious?" It does seem like --

-It felt very obvious. -It felt planted.

-It did. -I would disagree.

I thought it was the opposite because I thought

it was so obvious and it was an accident.

And then I convinced myself every single thing

after that was a sign. Right?

-Sarah from Maryland on Facebook said,

"You two are actually very similar

and enjoy being judgy to others, which we love.

Why do you think the two of you clashed so badly

rather than teamed up?"

-I think we're opposites. -Yeah, I think we're

totally different personalities.

-Rachel is all in, let's do the most.

And I'm like, can we just do the least?

-Kate's, like, chilling. Exactly.

-Scott from Donegal, Ireland, wants to know if Kate

can think of one positive thing to say about Rachel's fashions.

-It's so enthusiastic.

-This is couture!

-Kate, how would you describe your strategy?

Or did you have a strategy?

-You know, just to be true to myself

and, you know, go big or go home.

-You also said to me,

"I don't have a strategy."

-And you wanted to leave why?

-Everybody was using me.

I was having to do physical competitions.

I probably wasn't going to see the money.

Once I realized, you know, the odds aren't good,

I'm not going to win this money, the Traitors have the advantage

and the Faithfuls were not good at this game.

I wanted to win my own game, which was going out in my way.

-How did it feel to hear Arie call you a cancer?

And where do the two of you stand today?

-You know, I'm just going to give friendly advice.

I would just stop using that term in general

because it's like pretty seriously offensive term.

And then I didn't love that in interviews after the show,

you still like were like double down

because I thought for sure you'd be like,

you know, "We're in the game. It's stressful in the castle,

but we're great," but you were like, "No, she was."

And, you know, I'm going to explain why you're so wrong,

because I actually -- you said it was

because I was like, throwing missions.

I was doing that to save Anjelica,

which makes me a hero.

And also, what a cancer in the group does

is it betrays your body.

It turns on you and it kills you because it's greedy.

And that's actually what you did

when you became a Traitor?

Yes! -Honestly, Kate,

I wanted to -- I -- when I turned into a Traitor

and I realized you weren't a Traitor --

because I always had the suspicion that you were.

So that, at that point of the show,

that is when I said that.

But when I became a Traitor,

I felt like we could have been allies to the end.

I wanted to keep you to the end.

And that was the plan that Cirie backed out on.

And so for me -- -Thank you.

-I mean. -Because, you know what?

You still would have been --

-You were keeping her as a shield.

-Yes. -You're keeping me to the end

then sending me home with zero dollars.

-But you could get the money. -Thank you!

Thank you so much!

[ Laughter ]

-Coming up... -Cirie does what Cirie does best.

-Which is? -Back-stab.

-Win the game and do what you got to do.

What I wasn't okay with was you using my

personal life to get Arie to quit.

-I don't think I would have used people's families

to persuade people that you're a Faithful.

-Our relationship was so real to me.

It had nothing to do with the Traitors.

-All right. Let's get back into it.

Arie started the season as a Faithful,

but when the Traitors asked him to join their sinister ranks,

he did accept that rose.

So, Arie, Oliver D. wants to know,

on a scale from 1 to 10, how shocked were you to find out

Cirie and Christian were Traitors

once they invited you to join them?

-A Ten. -So you walked in the room.

Who did you think you were going to see

when you went to the turret?

-I was convinced it was gonna be Quentin and Kate.

-Okay. -Wow.

-And so I was so off.

I mean, so off, obviously.

I never suspected Cirie. Christian, maybe a little bit,

but not like, you know, Cirie was a complete surprise.

-Cirie and Christian, why Arie?

Why did you decide that he would be great?

-You wanna go first? -Everyone here, especially Kate,

was like, "Traitors are vile, disg-- I would never be

a Traitor," and I believed what they said.

Stephenie had a situation because everyone that

I talked to afterwards said, Why didn't you recruit me?

-Okay. -I said, well, because you

made me believe you didn't want to be a Traitor.

And Arie was kind of like...

-Playing the middle, okay. -Yeah, yeah.

-I thought in my head at first, I was like,

maybe we would get Rachel,

because I think Rachel knew somewhat that I was a Traitor,

but it was kind of like we didn't say anything,

but I thought Rachel and Cirie would turn on me.

So I did the thing was like,

I'm not going to bring in Quentin,

because he said he would not do it, and I know that,

and I thought, maybe I could bring in my bro here to help me

in case Cirie does what Cirie does best, and --

-Which is? -Which is win the game --

-Back-stab. Back-stab. -Do what you got to do to win,

which I respect -- -I didn't back-stab anybody.

But at this point -- But at this point --

-You put yourself out. Wait a minute.

-You voted for me! -I voted for you

with the group. -Yeah. And if you didn't --

-It was the majority. -If you two --

-If I didn't, it would have been a target on me.

-No, but if you two didn't, then the majority would have voted

Rachel that night.

There was a lot of votes going to Rachel that night.

-Well, I don't know. [ Indistinct ]

Wait a minute, let me finish. I didn't lead the vote against

you or anybody here.

Everybody brought names to me,

and I went with those votes.

I never went after you, you,

you, you, you, you, you or any of you.

I just agreed with it and went with the majority.

-Right. But in the same -- in the same breath,

instead of agreeing, you could have been like,

"I don't know about Cody. I don't think" --

-I tried. -The same way when your name

came up -- -I tried for you,

I tried for him, I did.

But I can't put myself on the chopping block --

-Totally. -Fighting for you guys.

-So isn't that a betrayal in itself?

-No, it's not. -It's not a betrayal?

-I stood up for you as much as I could

without making myself a target.

-This is a good question. SoNotOffensive on Twitter

said, "Cody and Christian, did all of the Traitors have

the idea of eliminating their teammates by the end

to be a lone winner?" Cirie was the only one

clearly expressing that in her confessionals.

Was that on your minds?

-It was asked, obviously, and I know Christian

can attest to this, we were asked multiple times.

-Yeah. -But I said I felt like

I was losing myself a lot in the game.

And I felt like if I was going to turn on the Traitors

and turn on all the Faithfuls, I was like,

I don't know that I would have been able to live with that.

-So, Arie, do you regret

accepting the Traitor invitation?

-No, because the math, I mean,

there was, I think, at that point,

three round tables left, so in my head, I'm like, okay,

three opportunities to get murdered.

So I feel like if I turn down the -- if I don't accept,

then I'm just gone, so I didn't feel like it

really made sense for me to turn it down.

It just became too personal.

The money would have been nice.

I really just wanted to give the opportunity

to Andie and Quentin. You know, I got --

You know -- -But you knew I was there,

so the opportunity was already gone for Andie --

-Well, no, because that's why I gave them --

tried to give them the clue.

-Did you feel like you were going to get voted out

if you went up to the -- -I did.

-You did. -I thought two options.

I could blow up the game, and say --

and try to go after you,

and it would have maybe got ugly,

'cause I didn't want to do that because I feel like

I trusted you and I -- -But you two had made this pact.

So what had you said to each other?

-We were going to end the game. -Yeah.

-The plan was to end the game and split the money.

-At the -- At the circle of fire.

Got it.

The plan was to end the game. -Yes.

So when I threw into the fire

and Andie then threw in the fire

and Quentin, I was like, game's over.

And then she threw into the fire and wanted to continue the game.

And that's -- at that point, she talked about splitting

the money four ways, you know, because at that point,

everyone thought they were Faithful there.

Right? So the game in that sense,

she didn't really say like,

"Arie, I think you're a Traitor."

She made it more on the,

"who needs the money the most,"

she talked about our personal lives.

And I wasn't about to play that game.

-So, when you said that, your intention was what?

-Really to get rid of Arie. -It was? It was.

-It was to get rid of Arie. But when I think about it,

I could have just said no and threw my red thing in,

and they still would have gotten rid of Arie.

So I understand why they feel the way they do.

-So at what point did you decide to throw the red in?

[ Dramatic music ]

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-So, at what point did you decide to throw the red in?

-At the last minute. -At the last minute.

-When I'm thinking about splitting the money with Arie,

I'm like, this has been a lot, because it was hard,

it wasn't easy -- as much games that I play in "Survivor,"

it was not easy being a Traitor from day one

and having to go into these breakfasts every day

and having to go into this roundtable.

And Arie came in one murder out. -Yeah.

-So thinking about it, I'm like, you know, I went through a lot,

it was really hard for me, and I didn't think

it was as fair to just give him half of the money.

-I don't think that's fair

because we played two different games.

I was the Faithful for a long time not knowing

if I was going to make it to breakfast every morning.

That's stressful in itself.

-It's not as stressful as being a traitor.

-You had control over your situation.

I had no control.

-I was chosen. I didn't have any control.

-But you did have more control than any of the Faithfuls.

The Traitors had a leg up in this game.

-Did you see these two's reaction when they came out?

Because it was that much, it was that hard.

It was that difficult. -He had fear as a Faithful.

You guys just had a little guilt.

But that guilt came with a pay day.

So I feel a little [indistinct] for you guys, okay?

-Like, that's like the thing, it comes down to --

you made the same decision, the same amount of money,

and you decided to screw over your friends.

And you could have -- at any point you could have said,

"Andie, I really think Cirie's a Traitor.

Kate I really think --" You had so many chances.

So your argument, you can't play the victim here?

-No but -- -Because you're not a victim,

you -- you got outplayed. -You have to understand,

I'd been a Faithful for almost the entire game.

So I had a real connection with Andie.

Quentin, you know, I felt like I didn't really trust you

because I thought you were a Traitor

until I came on myself. -Right.

-To be honest. -Everyone did.

-I just had it wrong the whole time. Anyway.

But, so after the last moment, I was like, okay,

game time decision, I kind of -- I had --

the writing was on the wall, you know,

I knew what was happening next, and I was like,

this is my one chance to extend the olive branch.

And maybe Andie or Quentin would pick up on the fact

that I didn't say congratulations.

I said, Good luck. You know, I hugged.

I hugged you, I hugged you. I said I was recruited late.

I tried to throw in all the tips.

-Yep. -But not blow up the game --

because I could have said "I'm a Traitor.

and there's still one here."

This has been an experience, for sure.

But I love you guys.

-Oh, man.

-Good luck, guys. -Love you, Arie.

-Thank you. Love you guys. -Thank you.

-Thank you. -You're welcome.

-Appreciate it. -Good luck.

-[ Sighs ]

I don't even think I remember him saying that

because I was so in the moment of everything --

-Thinking like, it's happening.

-I thought Quentin and I just secured the bag for our family,

you know what I mean? So... -It's easy in hindsight.

-It's easy -- when he says, I'm sorry,

when he says "I'm a Traitor," we're literal--

we're breaking down, because in that moment, it's like,

"At least I have $80,000."

Like, "I'm going home with money."

-Yeah. -Right? So, it --

And at the same time, we trusted you.

And so you -- it moved incredibly fast.

And like Andie said, you were just in the moment.

So, watching it back, sure, I saw the hints from Arie.

Right? And I'm like, but there was no way,

even if I were to do that moment again,

there was no way I would have picked up on that.

-Your feeling that night was what, Quentin?

-I felt like Cirie stabbed me in the back by being the Traitor

and then ultimately using my life to get Arie to quit,

in reference to my kids, she stabbed me in the chest.

-Andie, have you been able to forgive Cirie

for playing the game?

-They don't show it, but I was sitting on the ground

for like 10 minutes crying, trying to gather my thoughts

before I could even look at her and talk to her,

because for me I was like, I need to separate

how I'm going to react in this moment

from how I actually feel,

and when I was going through all of that,

of course, it was just like, it was visceral.

-So if I may, I was the Traitor from day one,

so I couldn't just come out

and tell any of you "I'm a Traitor,"

so how could I stab you in the back?

I played the role that I was given,

and with you in particular,

we didn't really get cool -- I gave you a hint,

like I said, you know, stop trying to save everybody.

But we really didn't lock in until that last mission,

you and I. -Right.

-Andie and I were from day one,

so that's why I felt devastated for Andie.

And I felt devastated for you as well.

But I didn't feel like I had done anything to you.

-I think the three of us tried to solidify,

honestly, it is what it is --

"all Black people get to the end" pact

and the final mission, and i-it was just --

it was devastating, honestly, because I wanted to see

one of us win -- and so I'm okay with it --

with you being a Traitor;

you being a Traitor was the game.

That's what we signed up for. What I wasn't okay with

was you using my personal life to get Arie to quit.

That's why I felt like you stabbed me in the chest.

-What I said at the end was, I know your situation,

and I know Andie's situation, I didn't say,

"Well, Quentin has a baby on the way

and Andie has a baby on the way," to protect what you said,

I just said I knew your situations.

That's verbatim what I said. -Mm-hmm.

-Yeah, well, we can all read between the lines.

-I mean -- -It just, she hit below the belt

a little bit, so -- -Don't hate the player.

Hate the game. -No, no. I mean, that's why

I removed myself. -Everything that we talked about

was super personal, and that's how I try to connect

with everybody on this show, and that is why I got

as far as I did on the show, because every single person

on here trusted me in some sense.

I don't know about Kate, but, you know.

-Wait. -I'm just kidding.

-I don't trust anybody!

We're a called "Traitors," people!

-Look, at the end of the day, you had to trust somebody

to continue to go forward in the game.

So, yeah, like, don't trust anybody.

But I really thought because of the relationship that we built,

you knew that I was having a kid on the way,

you knew that I wanted top surgery,

like gender affirming care.

Like, we talked about that stuff.

So, it was -- it was, for sure, painful.

And I think at the very end, when Arie left, I thought --

There was no time to process that stuff.

Right? So I thought he was leaving

because he wanted us to have that money.

Right? So it was never a thought in my mind

that -- that you were a Traitor.

It never -- it never was.

And I think, when it comes to Quentin and I,

that conversation, you did say we have families on the way.

-Yes. -No, I didn't.

I said, I know their situations; you can go back and check it.

-But I'm saying even before, too, when we were on that last

mission, made that pact, we thought you were just

cutting down the pot so that three people could share

that money and win this on a show and be --

-Absolutely. -I'm curious,

for Andie and Quentin, knowing how the game is played

and knowing that if you had all stayed there,

she was going to get the money because she was a Traitor,

or she and Arie were going to split the money,

what did she do wrong?

-I don't think I would have used people's families

or, like, had those personal connections like that

to persuade people that you're a Faithful.

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-What did she do wrong?

-I don't think I would have used people's families

or, like, had those personal connections like that

to persuade people that you're a Faithful.

-Wait a minute, what personal connection?

So, when I was chosen as a Traitor,

I had no connections to anybody besides Stephenie.

I'm a friendly person. I -- my energy

gravitated toward Andie. I genuinely liked Andie.

I was already a Traitor from day one.

I could have built that relationship with Michael

if he had still been there.

I just felt really close to you,

and the things that we discussed were real things in real life.

They had nothing to do with the "Traitor" game.

-That's why I looked at you as my family.

I think that just when it came down

to the last minute of that show,

of being persuaded all the way down to the very last minute,

and then our family situation being the center of that,

that's what was difficult for me to process in that moment.

-You felt that

Cirie used your personal experience

in order to get Arie to leave,

so that she could keep all the money?

-Absolutely. -Yes.

-And at that time, the day before, the pact was set,

so when she threw red,

we automatically knew we're voting Arie out.

If Arie didn't quit, we were always going to vote Arie out.

-Because we -- -So, Cirie had already won.

-Tell me your best piece of advice

for someone coming on this show.

-You have to be very adaptable.

You can't -- you can't be emotional.

-Oh, gosh -- trust no one. -Trust no one.

-My advice, Andy, would be use your ears more than your mouth.

-I agree. -That's good advice.

-Clearly. -Good advice, you guys!

-Yeah, it is. I was just thinking that.

Um, Cirie, you won.

I want to give you the last word.

-I guess I want to say, like,

if you guys ever play these games again...

There are going to be ups and downs.

But the relationships that are formed for me in these games,

and this is particularly to you, Andie,

our relationship was so real to me.

It had nothing to do with "The Traitors."

What we discussed, all the in-depth conversations

we had was 100% authentic for me and you.

It just so happened that it -- it occurred

during this game called "The Traitors."

You can make real, authentic,

lifelong friends from playing some of these games.

And if that's all you get out of it and you don't win,

then it's worth it.

-Aww, Andie.

-Aww.

-Can I hug you? -I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Andie.

You know I love you. You know I love you.

For real. I'm sorry.

[ Applause ]

-Oh, my God. -Dinner on you tonight, Cirie?

-It was last night! I already paid.

It was last night. -Well, tonight too.

-And again. -Uh-huh. All right.

I want to thank the Traitors and the Faithfuls

for joining me tonight. I'm Andy Cohen.

I'm going to leave you now with an important message from Alan.

Good night, and watch your back.

-Yes, that's right.

"The Traitors" is returning for a new season.

Same castle, new players.

Expect more deceit, more backstabbing,

and more dazzlingly outre outfits worn by yours truly.

Once more unto the breach, dear friends...

Fergus and I will be waiting for you.

Ciao, tutti.

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