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They were all in
agreement about what
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we could do for Charlie,
what the treatment
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options were, there was drugs,
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and there was brain surgery
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and you're out of luck, and so,
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It was a while ago but [chokes],
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So Charlie was born
March 11th, 1992,
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and he had a pretty
normal first year
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and then right around his first
birthday a little before
his first birthday
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I was actually pushing
him in a swing one day
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and he kind of threw
his arm up in the air
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and twitched his head
a little bit
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and I didn't even
think much of it
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and I asked my
wife Nancy, I said,
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have you seen anything like that
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and she said yeah,
I've seen a bunch of it,
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So that was the beginning and we
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started seeing neurologists,
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[woman] Okay, Charlie, okay,
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[Matt] The seizures
increased in intensity
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and in duration, he
wound up having seizures
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in the arms of the Chief
of pediatric Neurology
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at Boston Children's
Hospital, Seattle
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Children's Hospital, UCLA,
LA Children's Hospital
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so we tried all the drugs
that were available
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at the time, Charlie
had a brain surgery
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a horrendous brain
surgery and nothing
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really stopped his seizures
and we lost hope
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we were basically
told there was no hope,
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And one day after
the visit, I stopped
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at the Medical Library, As
soon as I started researching
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pediatric epilepsy,
one of the first things
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that came up was
a ketogenic diet
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and was kinda
shocking to me because
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what it said was, uh,
that about a third
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of the kids with epilepsy
as bad as Charlie
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um, who go
on a ketogenic diet have
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their seizures go away,
and another third
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are significantly
improved, and for a third
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it doesn't work, and
yet all of these folks
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that we had taken Charlie to see
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never mentioned
a word about diet,
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[Vinnie] Nutrition information
can be so confusing and as
advanced as we are medically
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and scientifically, the question
remains what foods should we
eat to achieve good health?
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[dramatic music]
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[Vinnie]
We're in a war for information
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and the fallout
affects all of us,
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[trumpets blare]
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The media's just gonna sell what
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people are gonna
buy and if people
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knew the truth, they would
know what to ask for,
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My name is Vinnie
Tortorich and I've been
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in the health and fitness game
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for the better part of 40 years,
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specializing in weight loss,
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Over the years, I've seen
everything come and go
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at least a hundred times,
but as a country,
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we've only gotten fatter,
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What should I eat, what
pills should I take,
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should I take a pill, what
about those protein shakes?
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We all know someone who's
trying to lose weight
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and most of those
people don't realize
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simply losing weight
doesn't mean good health,
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My mother, for
instance, she was always
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on some diet, one week
it was the Cambridge Diet
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the next week it was
the Scarsdale diet,
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the next week it was
the Cabbage Soup diet,
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But wait a minute, the next week
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she ate nothing but bananas,
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Where did that come from?
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I always wonder about
things like eight,
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eight ounce glasses
of water per day,
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Really, where did
that come from?
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High blood pressure,
your doctor will say
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oh, you have high
blood pressure,
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stop drinking coffee, really?
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These are all just myths,
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[dramatic music]
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The myths have become ingrained
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in our society far too strongly
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for people to realize
they're myths,
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[Vinnie] What are some of the
health myths we hear every day?
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Grains are good for you
and fat is bad for you,
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Obesity is an energy
balance disorder,
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Calorie in, calorie out,
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Calories in, calories out
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as long as you're burning
enough calories,
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you can ingest
whatever you want,
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That you have to exercise
to have better health,
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Saturated fat is the cause
of heart disease,
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A low fat diet is
a healthy diet,
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We saw fat in the
coronary arteries
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and that must come
from ingested fat,
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[overlapping chatter]
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A growing number of
doctors are learning
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that almost everything we're
taught about nutrition is wrong,
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And I realize there was
this incredible story
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that we had gotten
it pretty much
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completely upside down
and backward on fat,
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[Vinnie] Believe it or not, the
story of how we got to where
we are today, started in
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the 1860s, with the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and a woman named Ellen White,
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Ellen was a higher
up in the church
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and she would have
these premonitions
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and one night she had a dream,
that God came to her
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and said that we
shouldn't eat anything
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-with a face,
- I was taken to another place
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high above this world and I
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I-- I heard a voice,
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There started
modern-day veganism,
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It really didn't exist before
then, there were other
religious groups
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who were more vegetarian,
they would eat eggs
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and dairy and so on and so forth
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and as a matter of fact,
God also told her
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that coffee and tea were bad,
which made no sense
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because both of those
are vegetation,
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Not long after in our
history, there was
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a man named
Vilhjalmur Stefansson,
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He also believed,
to a certain extent
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that a vegetable heavy
diet was mandatory
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for good health,
he was an explorer
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who ended up living with Inuits
in Canada in 1906 and
in that time and place
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he was forced to
adopt a new diet
due to the lack of options,
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He made a discovery
that will change
the way you look at food,
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Now this raises the whole
question of food, then,
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You yourself must have
longed for a green
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-vegetable once in a while,
- Well, I did at first,
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At first his
preconceived notion is
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I'm gonna die, there
is nothing green here,
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There is no
vegetation, they simply
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eat fish and drink water,
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[Nina]
It was unlike anything that
he'd experienced, right?
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Completely unlike
the Western diet,
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it was probably 70 to 80% fat,
the Inuit lived
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half the year on
caribou [gunshot]
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And half the year on whatever
they could fish out of the sea,
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For four and a half months,
I lived on literally nothing
but fish and water
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and at the end of four and
a half months, I was healthier
than I'd ever been before,
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And this is on an
exclusive meat diet?
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[Stefansson] That was
exclusive fish in this case,
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On this diet, they
were perfectly healthy,
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I mean, Stefansson
was somebody from
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the medical world and
he knew what cancer
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looked like, he knew what
heart disease looked like
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and he did not see
anyone suffering
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from ill health
in that community,
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When he came back to
the United States,
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no one believed him, of course,
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what, people eating
nothing but meat and fat,
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how could that be, they
certainly would die,
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[narrator] Dr, Charles Norris,
Chief Medical Examiner
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does not approve of
an all meat diet,
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We have a weakness
of not learning
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from the natives, but
rather teaching them,
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You see everything through
the colored spectacles
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of your education,
your bringing up,
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We go through this
whole idea of green good
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red bad, Greenpeace,
a light turns green
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it means go, eat your
greens, yet when you look
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at red, well red means
stop, blood is red,
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it doesn't take long
for media to pick up
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on these thing and we don't
realize it's happening
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but it's happening
right in front of us,
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[upbeat music]
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[announcer] It's 10 p.m.
do you know where
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your children are?
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[people yell and punch]
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[Vinnie] Back to Ellen White
and her visions,
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Ellen was having
these premonitions
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and all of this was
happening, the rioting's
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were happening,
in the mid-1860s,
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but ten years earlier in
1856, a 12 year old boy
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came to work with the
church, his family
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was in a church and
that was John Kellogg,
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John, by the time he
was 16, was writing
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and putting out
literature for the church,
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He would go on to share
some of the most bizarre
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beliefs that Ellen White
and the church had
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including the idea
that masturbation
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and sex were off limits,
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Excuse me, Ricky,
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To stave off these
sins of the flesh,
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you should never eat
meat because meat
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increases sexual desire,
Well, this is what
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eventually led to Cornflakes,
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That's right,
Cornflakes were created
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by Seventh-day Adventists
to curb sexual desires,
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He was the guy who
figured out something
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that he termed
dextrinization, it's when
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you cook down grains
so much it turns
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into dextrose, it
turns into a sugar,
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[drum beats]
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Today when you see
dextrose in a product
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you should run in the
opposite direction,
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It's as bad as seeing
high-fructose corn syrup,
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It's used for bacon,
it's used in salami,
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all the luncheon
meats that you get
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includes dextrose
nowadays because
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it gives it a shelf
life, it's a way
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to cure it fast, it's
cheap, it's easy to do
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so something that
John Kellogg started
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way back in the day
has also seeped
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across to the other side,
into the meat industry,
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[Gary] There are two issues,
there's always
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multiple questions, one
is if you switch from
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a standard American
diet of processed foods
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and sugary beverages
and, you know, for lack
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of a better word,
we'll call it junk
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and switch to a vegan
diet with healthy
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vegetables and beans
and legumes and fruit
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you're getting rid
of a lot of crap
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that's probably bad for you,
which is the sugar
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and the highly refined
processed foods,
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You would expect
somebody to feel better
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if they did that,
the second question is
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if you did that and switched to
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a whole food diet that
was animal food based
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rather than plant
based, would you be
would they be healthier?
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I have spent aggregated
more than six years
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on red meat that is
seal meat, caribou meat,
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muskox meat, polar bear,
grizzly bear, so on,
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[Vinnie] The Stefansson diet
was considered
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an all meat diet, so what he did
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in 1928, was subjected
himself and a friend of his
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to living in a hospital,
being monitored
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for an entire year
eating nothing but meat
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fish and water, and that became
the famous Bellevue Study,
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[narrator]
The studies on Stefansson,
which were intensively made
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from every clinical angle,
started on February 13th, 1928.
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Stefansson was tested
during the experiment
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with an excessively high
protein, minimal fat diet
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and as a result, became ill.
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Stefansson said the only
time that he felt ill
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was when he ate
too much lean meat
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not accompanied by the fat,
but that some thick steaks
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made him feel better
again [laughs],
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You have to have
fat with the lean
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as lean and fat together
make a perfect diet,
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At the end, there were six
publications that came out of
that experiment
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by different doctors looking at
whether or not they got enough
vitamins and minerals
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and everything
they could possibly
measure and they were found
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to be in perfect health,
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I wanted to try to
dispel from the world
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the same misconceptions
which I had
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of the Arctic when I went north,
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I used to think that
I was well-informed
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on the Arctic
before I went north,
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and-- but I concluded
eventually that out of
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ten things that I
believed about the Arctic
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before I went north,
about six were wrong,
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[piano music]
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The medical community
has been promoting
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saturated fat as
being the bad actor
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for heart disease mainly
and that really
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came from weak science
called epidemiology,
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Experimental evidence that shows
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that that's actually
true has never been done,
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For example, you
could radio label
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saturated fat in
the food and see
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if it shows up on the arteries,
That's never been done,
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The entire teaching
about saturated fat
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being bad for the heart
is not really
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founded in good science,
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[Vinnie] It's not that the
information is not out there,
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I remember early on
when I was in college,
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I had a college professor
explain to us
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that fat was our body's
preferred source of energy,
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Okay, fat is a very
good way to have energy
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and that same professor
a couple of weeks
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later said, our
bodies prefer sugar
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when we do exercise,
Weren't we talking
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about fat just a
couple of weeks ago?
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Yeah, forget about
all that, it's sugar,
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So, the message even
in top universities
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right here in the United States
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are a bunch of mixed messages,
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[Vinnie] Do I think there's
a big responsibility
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for media to do the right thing?
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Yes, I do, you know, we have
three big networks,
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the big three, ABC, CBS and NBC,
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Whatever they told us,
we went with,
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Hell, when I was a kid,
there was still
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even cigarette
commercials on the air,
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At least we figured out
that that was a bad idea,
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โช Don't settle for
some of the taste โช
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โช Some of the time โช
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It's very easy to
see how someone
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can think something
or just say something
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and that becomes a reality,
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[narrator] Breakfast,
no eggs or fatty meats
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instead, eat grains and fiber
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that actually lower cholesterol.
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[Vinnie] How about the
term heart healthy grains,
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We've all seen it,
many people believe it,
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After all, the terms come from
studies that prove it
to be true, right?
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Those were studies
looking at whole grains
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versus white processed
flours and grains,
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So of course, when
you're comparing it
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to something like
white processed flour,
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it's going to be better,
but does that mean
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it in and of itself is
therefore heart healthy?
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You could make the
argument that whole grains
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are less bad for you
than refined grains
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but that doesn't make
whole grains good,
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Oatmeal, or oat bread,
or an oat muffin
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or oat bran that can
either incorporated
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into some other cereal product,
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It's like cigarettes,
you can have
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cigarettes with a filter on
and they're less
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bad for you perhaps than
unfiltered cigarettes,
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Doesn't make the
filtered cigarettes good,
It just means they're less bad
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and the same thing is true for
whole grains, They are less bad,
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We should put more emphasis on
our vegetables we should think
about the vegetables
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we're gonna have for dinner
rather than the meat portion,
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[Vinnie] Listen I'm not
a doctor, I'm just a guy
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with a physical education degree
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who became a trainer and somehow
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found myself in the
world of modeling,
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Before I became
a trainer to the stars
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and eventually, a
best-selling author
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and podcaster, but
when I started modeling
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in LA in the early 90s, I
realized that the media will
sell us anything
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to make a buck, regardless of
whether it's healthy or not,
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Let's face it, every
beer commercial
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you've ever seen is a
bunch of ripped-up guys
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on a beach playing
volleyball because
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that's what beer
drinkers look like,
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[intense music]
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If you have ripped up abs
or you have
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a nice set of shoulders,
they want you
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modeling everything
in the infomercials,
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It was the heyday
of the infomercial,
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[male announcer] If we
think fat, then we are.
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[woman] Fad diets,
powders, pills,
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still my weight's been
up and down like a yo-yo
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until the Ayds plan
taught me how to
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take off weight and
help keep it off,
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Just 20 minutes a day will turn
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your body into a
calorie burning furnace,
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We were coming into
this age of, hey,
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if you just do what I tell you,
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you can look like this guy
or this woman in just
a few weeks,
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Dexatrim did it, I lost
weight and feel great!
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Nobody wanted the truth,
they just wanted
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a lie that they could
get everyone to believe,
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[man] Now you can
lose weight without diets...
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No, this product
really doesn't work,
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,..without pills.
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No, that product
really doesn't work,
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,..without exercise.
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Well, what does work?
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[man] Now you can lose weight
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just by watching television.
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So I learned very
quickly, be careful
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as to what you advertise,
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[upbeat music]
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The 1920s and 30s it
was a lot different,
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we were learning a lot
of things back then,
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We were discovering
vitamins for the first time,
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Uh, we also learned
that food could heal
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and a lot of these
therapies are what
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were being used to heal people,
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They were using non-starchy,
non-sugary diets
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to starve cancer in
the 1920s and 30s,
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Take Otto Warburg for instance,
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He was doing cancer
studies on rats,
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[jaunty music]
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He thought that the
outcome would be
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that oxygen was what was fueling
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cancer cells to grow
and what he learned
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with rats was that it
was actually the sugar,
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โช Eat an apple everyday โช
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His discovery was well known as
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the Warburg Effect and
it was shown to help
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in somewhere near
80% of the cases
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of people who had cancer,
Why does it feel like
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no one knows this information?
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-[jaunty music]
-[liquid bubbles]
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We were making
these discoveries,
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So what else contributed
to them not taking hold?
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We had a Great
Depression and then
we had a war,
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a lot of people were having
trouble putting food
in their mouth, period,
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so I don't think people were
caring that much about their
health, people were just
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trying to eat anything,
people didn't eat out as much,
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We made home-made dressings,
you didn't have
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dressings that were
full of processed oils
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and we weren't adding
high-fructose corn syrup
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to everything that we ate,
we ate real whole foods
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that were cooked at home,
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Even fast food
was different back
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in the 1940s and 50s,
If you had french fries
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they were made from
rendered animal fat,
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Basically beef tallow,
which was a better way
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to cook junk food,
so even our junk food
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was better in the
1940s and 50s and 60s,
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[dramatic music]
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It wasn't until we
got to the 1950s
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where people start to
become more prosperous,
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We saw the advent of TV dinners
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and other stuff and more sugar
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and processed foods
came from everywhere,
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But what really happens
happened in 1955
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when one of the most popular
presidents of our time,
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Dwight D, Eisenhower,
had a heart attack,
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[reporter] News of
President Eisenhower's
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sudden illness,
described by his doctors
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as coronary thrombosis, came as
a severe shock to us all.
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Films of President Eisenhower
made just before
his heart attack
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are dramatic evidence of the
suddenness of the illness that
shocked the nation.
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[narrator] President
Eisenhower's heart attack...
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[typewriter clacks]
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Well, if he could die, what
could happen to me?
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You have to understand,
this is a period
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in the 1950s when America is in
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a complete panic about the
rising tide of heart disease,
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Before that, we never
thought about heart attacks,
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we never thought about
health and fitness,
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we didn't think abut
the food we were eating,
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No one back in the 1950s
knew what
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their cholesterol
score was, much less
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even knew what the
world cholesterol meant,
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[jaunty music]
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Cholesterol is kind of
a fat type molecule,
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it's in all of our cells,
30 trillion cells,
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Cholesterol is
actually so important
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to the body that
it actually makes
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the majority of cholesterol
that's in your blood
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right now, most of the
dietary cholesterol
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you eat will go through you
and very little
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actually gets absorbed,
and of that cholesterol
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you find in the blood, most
of it was made by your liver,
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[narrator] It is an essential
of nerve tissue for instance,,,
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If you eat more cholesterol,
your body will make less,
if you eat less
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your body will make more,
which makes it very interesting
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that it was maligned in
the past few decades,
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Heart disease had been rare in
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the early 1900s and
had really risen
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since the late 1920s
to be the number one
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killer disease by the 1950s,
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We took a collective gasp
in this country,
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We didn't wanna have another
president die in office,
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Just imagine your
president not being
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in the Oval Office for
ten days and he's in bed,
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Besides, this guy
was very popular,
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people wanted to find out
what caused it,
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Could it have been
his diet, and if so,
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what was he eating and
how can we change it?
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This is also the time when the
media was more prevalent,
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[narrator] Motion picture
cameras join newspaper reporters
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in the old
State Department building
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for an historic
Presidential press conference.
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The first ever filmed in
sound by newsreel cameramen.
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I see we're trying
a new experiment
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this morning, I hope
it doesn't prove
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to be a disturbing influence,
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[jaunty music]
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The power of media,
you can't really
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tell that story without telling
the story of Oprah Winfrey,
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It was 1993 and by
happenstance, I was put
up for an appearance on Oprah,
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They needed someone the next
day, They were looking for
younger men who were dating
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older women and since my
girlfriend was seven years older
at the time, I was invited on,
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I wasn't into it, I had no idea
what really happened on Oprah,
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but I was told no,
you have to do it,
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it'll be great for your career,
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So they fly me
to Chicago and I get
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to the green room,
I was introduced
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to a woman named Doe,
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The theme of the show
was younger men
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who were dating older women,
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Older women having the courage
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to live their dreams and fulfill
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their fantasies and
live their lives
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exactly the way they wanted to,
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including dating younger men,
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Doe said that I
would have to pretend
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that I was dating her and I said
what are you talking about?
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My guests today,
they're all members
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of a provocative new
kind of dating service,
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[Vinnie] I told her that I
would not go on stage
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and lie, that I
would go on stage
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and sit next to Doe,
but I would not say
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that we dated,
I quickly realized
486
00:23:58,191 --> 00:24:00,443
that I had been
bamboozled, because Doe
487
00:24:00,568 --> 00:24:01,819
introduced me as her boyfriend,
488
00:24:01,945 --> 00:24:03,988
I'd like you meet
Vinnie Tortorich,
489
00:24:04,113 --> 00:24:05,949
he's a Beverly Hills
fitness expert,
490
00:24:06,074 --> 00:24:08,451
he's hot, sweet, he loves women
491
00:24:08,576 --> 00:24:10,620
and he's emotionally accessible,
492
00:24:10,745 --> 00:24:12,163
- Ah, get out of here,
-[audience laughs]
493
00:24:12,288 --> 00:24:13,665
I couldn't believe
what was happening
494
00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:17,043
and at that moment,
I said to myself,
495
00:24:17,168 --> 00:24:20,880
I'm gonna turn this
into not the Oprah show
but the Vinnie show,
496
00:24:21,005 --> 00:24:22,882
Number one, women don't even hit
497
00:24:23,007 --> 00:24:25,301
their sexual prime
until they hit 40,
498
00:24:25,426 --> 00:24:27,345
they don't even know what's
going on until they're 40!
499
00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:28,638
[audience cheers]
500
00:24:30,515 --> 00:24:31,975
I've been dating older women--
501
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,519
- Gee, I'm only 39!
-[audience laughs]
502
00:24:34,644 --> 00:24:37,772
I'm gonna make this show so bad
that they won't possibly
503
00:24:37,897 --> 00:24:39,857
be able to run it
on national television,
504
00:24:39,983 --> 00:24:42,318
You wanna be with an older
woman, it's the difference
between riding in
505
00:24:42,443 --> 00:24:45,530
a Volkswagen and a Cadillac,
If you wanna ride
in a Volkswagen,
506
00:24:45,655 --> 00:24:46,948
go right ahead, if
you want the Cadillac,
507
00:24:47,073 --> 00:24:48,950
-go for an older woman,
- Well, now--
508
00:24:49,075 --> 00:24:51,202
[audience cheers]
509
00:24:51,327 --> 00:24:52,996
It turned into a circus,
the people
510
00:24:53,121 --> 00:24:55,915
in the audience actually
believed all this,
511
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,667
Doe and I had just met,
512
00:24:57,792 --> 00:25:00,044
It was like the audience
was participating
513
00:25:00,169 --> 00:25:01,838
in this huge game of Mad Libs,
514
00:25:01,963 --> 00:25:03,297
Two different generations,
515
00:25:03,423 --> 00:25:05,425
How was school, oh I
learned arithmetic,
516
00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:07,593
I don't see how two people
can have something in common
517
00:25:07,719 --> 00:25:08,886
if they're not the same age,
518
00:25:09,012 --> 00:25:10,221
It seems like people are
treating this
519
00:25:10,346 --> 00:25:11,389
like some sort of fetish,
520
00:25:11,514 --> 00:25:12,306
What could you possible
521
00:25:12,432 --> 00:25:13,266
have in common?
522
00:25:13,391 --> 00:25:14,392
Let's say Cher
523
00:25:14,517 --> 00:25:15,435
walked into the room
524
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,395
and said she had to have you,
525
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,106
[audience laughs and cheers]
526
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:23,317
Sally, get Cher on the phone!
527
00:25:23,443 --> 00:25:26,863
I ended up asking
Cher out on a date
528
00:25:26,988 --> 00:25:29,449
-during the show,
- Cher is on the phone,
529
00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:31,534
Cher, my name is
Vinnie Tortorich and,,,
530
00:25:31,659 --> 00:25:32,452
[audience laughs]
531
00:25:33,494 --> 00:25:34,996
I wanna say this in front
of the whole country,
532
00:25:35,121 --> 00:25:36,622
- Is the camera on me?
- Yeah, the cameras on you,
533
00:25:36,748 --> 00:25:39,959
Cher, I live in Beverly Hills,
let's get together
534
00:25:40,084 --> 00:25:43,004
and have lunch, I'll have my
agent call your agent,
and we'll do it
535
00:25:43,129 --> 00:25:44,380
because we'll have a great time,
536
00:25:44,505 --> 00:25:46,758
No matter how outlandish I got,
537
00:25:46,883 --> 00:25:48,259
they seemed to enjoy it
more and more,
538
00:25:48,384 --> 00:25:50,428
What I wanna know
is from the ladies
539
00:25:50,553 --> 00:25:53,014
in the audience, should I
have lunch with this guy?
540
00:25:53,973 --> 00:25:55,683
As a matter of fact,
you can see Oprah,
541
00:25:55,808 --> 00:25:57,727
Oprah started dancing
in the aisles,
542
00:25:57,852 --> 00:25:59,562
[audience cheers]
543
00:26:01,898 --> 00:26:03,733
The show ended
and I went back to LA
544
00:26:03,858 --> 00:26:05,693
and I just assumed, well
that show's gonna bomb,
545
00:26:05,818 --> 00:26:07,904
As of last year,
it was the seventh
546
00:26:08,029 --> 00:26:10,573
highest rated show
in Oprah's history,
547
00:26:10,698 --> 00:26:13,034
people still recognize
me for it today
548
00:26:13,159 --> 00:26:15,495
and virtually none
of it was true,
549
00:26:15,661 --> 00:26:18,122
I took that
realization that media
550
00:26:18,247 --> 00:26:19,248
can change everything,
551
00:26:20,458 --> 00:26:23,086
Eisenhower has a heart
attack and he wants
552
00:26:23,211 --> 00:26:24,670
the whole country
to know that this
553
00:26:24,796 --> 00:26:26,923
-was a real issue,
- I am happy the doctors
554
00:26:27,048 --> 00:26:31,511
have given me at least
a parole if not a pardon
555
00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:35,515
and I expect to be back
at my accustomed duties
556
00:26:35,681 --> 00:26:37,809
although they say
I must ease my way
557
00:26:37,934 --> 00:26:40,394
into 'em and not
bulldoze my way into 'em,
558
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,271
But the media had other ideas,
559
00:26:42,396 --> 00:26:44,524
They have their own agenda, ah,
560
00:26:44,649 --> 00:26:46,526
he had the common
cold of heart attacks,
561
00:26:46,651 --> 00:26:48,111
he didn't really have a bad one,
562
00:26:48,236 --> 00:26:50,029
The media was trying to show him
563
00:26:50,154 --> 00:26:52,532
on the golf course, having
a great round of golf,
564
00:26:52,657 --> 00:26:54,909
[balls whack]
565
00:26:55,493 --> 00:26:59,372
It was thought that diet was
the cause, He was also like
a four pack a day smoker,
566
00:26:59,497 --> 00:27:02,416
[laughs]
Which may very well have
given him his heart attack,
567
00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:04,544
[narrator]
Yes, according to this survey,
568
00:27:04,669 --> 00:27:08,005
more doctors smoke Camel
than any other cigarette.
569
00:27:08,131 --> 00:27:09,632
Try Camels yourself.
570
00:27:09,757 --> 00:27:12,343
Right around that time,
enters Ancel Keys,
571
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,556
[Nina]
Ancel Keys was a pathologist
572
00:27:16,681 --> 00:27:18,266
at the University of Minnesota,
573
00:27:18,391 --> 00:27:23,479
He got the idea in the
1950s that saturated fat
574
00:27:23,604 --> 00:27:26,315
and cholesterol were what
caused heart diseases,
575
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,113
It strikes without warning,
Of ten men, we can
expect five to get it,
576
00:27:32,864 --> 00:27:35,283
[thuds]
577
00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:40,496
But we can't say
who or when or why,
578
00:27:41,164 --> 00:27:44,584
Ancel Keys was this
incredibly persuasive person,
579
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:49,088
He had a really outsized
belief in his own ideas,
580
00:27:49,213 --> 00:27:52,049
[Ancel] The facts are simple,
you know the chief killer
581
00:27:52,175 --> 00:27:54,760
of Americans is
cardiovascular disease.
582
00:27:54,886 --> 00:27:57,680
Disorders and degeneration of
the heart and blood vessels.
583
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:01,225
Here are vital statistics.
584
00:28:03,019 --> 00:28:06,272
They show that this
problem here in America
is the worst in the world,
585
00:28:06,397 --> 00:28:08,608
Ancel Keys was
famous for something
586
00:28:08,774 --> 00:28:10,359
called the Seven
Countries Study,
587
00:28:10,484 --> 00:28:11,694
This is where he
went and studied
588
00:28:11,819 --> 00:28:14,822
seven different countries
and came up with
589
00:28:14,947 --> 00:28:17,950
this hypothesis as to
how we're supposed to eat
590
00:28:18,075 --> 00:28:19,368
based on correlation,
591
00:28:19,493 --> 00:28:21,037
Ancel Keys is the
one who proposed
592
00:28:21,162 --> 00:28:22,622
what he called the
Diet Heart Hypothesis
593
00:28:22,747 --> 00:28:25,958
and that was that saturated
fat and cholesterol,
594
00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:28,711
dietary cholesterol would
give you a heart attack,
595
00:28:28,836 --> 00:28:32,715
especially saturated fat,
like hot oil
596
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,967
down a cold stove pipe,
it would just
597
00:28:35,092 --> 00:28:37,220
clog up your arteries and
give you a heart attack,
598
00:28:37,345 --> 00:28:39,639
The problem is, he cherry picked
599
00:28:39,764 --> 00:28:42,433
these countries
to fit what he was
600
00:28:42,558 --> 00:28:44,518
trying to hypothesize
and set out
601
00:28:44,644 --> 00:28:46,187
to prove that the
more calories you got
602
00:28:46,312 --> 00:28:47,647
from fat, the better
chance you had
603
00:28:47,772 --> 00:28:49,482
of getting heart disease,
604
00:28:49,607 --> 00:28:51,609
It seemed like a
straight line between
605
00:28:51,734 --> 00:28:54,403
the least fat consumed
and the most fat consumed
606
00:28:54,528 --> 00:28:55,863
with the US at the top,
607
00:28:56,447 --> 00:28:59,951
The only problem is,
Key studied 22 countries
608
00:29:00,076 --> 00:29:01,786
and if you factor in
all of those countries,
609
00:29:01,911 --> 00:29:03,788
the results are
all over the place,
610
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:06,415
He just took the seven countries
611
00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:09,252
that proved his point that
fat causes heart disease,
612
00:29:09,377 --> 00:29:11,754
This study made Keys
the temporary savior
613
00:29:11,879 --> 00:29:14,548
of the medical community,
and therefore, the world,
614
00:29:14,674 --> 00:29:16,676
Such that he was able to get on
615
00:29:16,801 --> 00:29:19,553
to the American Heart
Association Nutrition Committee
616
00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:21,847
and he turned the whole
Association around
617
00:29:21,973 --> 00:29:24,767
in one year and
got them, in 1961
618
00:29:24,892 --> 00:29:27,144
to recommend that all Americans
619
00:29:27,270 --> 00:29:29,689
restrict saturated fat
and cholesterol
620
00:29:29,814 --> 00:29:32,191
in their diets in order
to fight heart disease,
621
00:29:49,458 --> 00:29:52,211
This is the first advice
anywhere in the world
622
00:29:52,336 --> 00:29:54,505
telling people not
to eat saturated fat
623
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:56,799
and cholesterol to
fight heart attacks
624
00:29:56,924 --> 00:29:59,093
that's like the
beginning of it all,
625
00:29:59,218 --> 00:30:01,971
That is what just
blossomed, bloomed,
626
00:30:02,096 --> 00:30:05,266
grew into the giant oak tree
of advice that we have now,
627
00:30:05,391 --> 00:30:08,602
We have no credible
evidence to say
628
00:30:08,728 --> 00:30:11,397
that saturated fat
causes heart disease
629
00:30:11,522 --> 00:30:14,025
and that sounds crazy
to say when you look
630
00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:16,736
at our Government guidelines
and our dietary guidelines,
631
00:30:16,861 --> 00:30:20,614
but there is no high level,
credible evidence
632
00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:24,327
to show that saturated fat
causes heart disease,
633
00:30:24,452 --> 00:30:25,578
The interesting
thing about Key's
634
00:30:25,703 --> 00:30:27,747
he got virtually
everything wrong,
635
00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:31,167
but it never infected
his humility,
636
00:30:31,292 --> 00:30:34,128
[epic music]
637
00:30:34,253 --> 00:30:35,463
We're living in a time right now
638
00:30:35,588 --> 00:30:37,048
when we've had a
narcissistic term
639
00:30:37,173 --> 00:30:38,966
people are very primitive
and narcissistic
640
00:30:39,091 --> 00:30:40,343
a lot of injuries in childhood,
641
00:30:40,468 --> 00:30:43,304
and it has caused us
to, umm, perhaps not
642
00:30:43,429 --> 00:30:45,389
have the most
secure sense of self
643
00:30:45,514 --> 00:30:48,142
and identity, people
attach themselves
644
00:30:48,267 --> 00:30:50,895
to one particular
approach to diet
645
00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:53,314
and it develops into an identity
646
00:30:53,439 --> 00:30:56,609
around which people
maintain a religious
647
00:30:56,734 --> 00:30:59,612
intensity, they
defend it as though
648
00:30:59,737 --> 00:31:02,531
any question in
their dogma is like
649
00:31:02,656 --> 00:31:04,575
you're questioning
their religious dogma
650
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,870
or threatening their very sense
of the fabric of reality and so
651
00:31:07,995 --> 00:31:12,291
we start looking around for
things to attach ourselves to
and political groups,
652
00:31:12,416 --> 00:31:16,087
religious organizations,
different diet fads,
653
00:31:16,212 --> 00:31:18,547
We attach ourselves
to these groups
654
00:31:18,672 --> 00:31:21,050
and we look to the groups
for our identity
655
00:31:21,175 --> 00:31:23,803
so our going forward
in life is somehow
656
00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:25,805
threatened by somebody saying,
657
00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:27,890
hey maybe fat's
not so bad for you,
658
00:31:28,015 --> 00:31:32,520
It's positively comedic but
it's becoming ridiculous,
659
00:31:32,645 --> 00:31:34,939
The United States'
coronary heart disease
660
00:31:35,064 --> 00:31:38,442
is so common that you
all wanna have to do
661
00:31:38,567 --> 00:31:41,278
to study the complete
natural history
662
00:31:41,404 --> 00:31:43,823
of the disease is to
take a sample of men,
663
00:31:43,948 --> 00:31:47,910
any sample of men that are known
healthy follow them, wait
a little while,
664
00:31:48,035 --> 00:31:50,037
and a lot of them will have
coronary heart disease,
665
00:31:50,162 --> 00:31:52,998
But it wasn't very long
before it appeared
666
00:31:53,124 --> 00:31:55,960
there was some
connection between
667
00:31:56,085 --> 00:31:58,838
coronary heart disease and
cholesterol in the blood,
668
00:31:59,004 --> 00:32:02,341
No question, we hear over
and over and over again
669
00:32:02,466 --> 00:32:04,510
that cholesterol
equals mortality,
670
00:32:04,635 --> 00:32:06,387
We've seen it in
the commercials,
671
00:32:06,512 --> 00:32:07,930
Fleischmann's margarine!
672
00:32:08,055 --> 00:32:09,515
It's the only leading
margarine made
673
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,518
from 100% corn oil,
it has no cholesterol!
674
00:32:12,643 --> 00:32:15,020
[Dave] We've heard about
it from our doctor,
675
00:32:15,146 --> 00:32:17,690
[Doctor] Over time, the build up
on the walls of
veins and arteries
676
00:32:17,815 --> 00:32:19,859
helping to clog them,
restricting blood flow,
677
00:32:19,984 --> 00:32:22,278
it's what causes heart
attacks and strokes,
678
00:32:22,403 --> 00:32:25,656
We've heard about it plenty
of times from our friends
and our family,
679
00:32:25,781 --> 00:32:29,743
and because of that,
we tend to think
it's just simply the truth,
680
00:32:29,869 --> 00:32:32,496
It certainly has the degree of
repetition that we would expect,
681
00:32:32,621 --> 00:32:35,332
In the 60s and 70s
we were focusing
682
00:32:35,458 --> 00:32:38,169
more on the specific
types of cholesterol,
683
00:32:38,294 --> 00:32:43,424
LDL and HDL and LDL became
known as the bad cholesterol
684
00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:47,094
and all of a sudden,
medicine was focused on LDL,
685
00:32:47,219 --> 00:32:49,638
It was noticed that
higher cholesterol
686
00:32:49,763 --> 00:32:52,016
in the blood
appeared to correlate
687
00:32:52,141 --> 00:32:54,894
or track with higher
heart disease rates,
688
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:58,898
[man] Cholesterol is carried
in the blood by proteins
called low density lipoproteins,
689
00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:01,567
or LDLs, the more
cholesterol we eat
690
00:33:01,692 --> 00:33:04,111
the more the number of LDLs,
and that's dangerous.
691
00:33:04,236 --> 00:33:06,322
So essentially, the
idea was developed
692
00:33:06,447 --> 00:33:08,073
that the higher
cholesterol was getting
693
00:33:08,199 --> 00:33:10,826
in to your arteries
and was causing
694
00:33:10,951 --> 00:33:12,328
the arterial disease,
695
00:33:12,453 --> 00:33:15,831
Because the higher that
lipoprotein level goes
696
00:33:15,956 --> 00:33:17,583
the greater the risk
of heart disease,
697
00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:21,086
There are some studies
that show a correlation,
698
00:33:21,212 --> 00:33:23,005
Does that mean
causation, and this
699
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:25,466
is a very important
differentiation
700
00:33:25,591 --> 00:33:28,677
that is too infrequently made,
701
00:33:28,802 --> 00:33:30,387
Because something is correlated,
702
00:33:30,513 --> 00:33:32,515
doesn't mean it is the cause,
703
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,934
So if high
cholesterol is present
704
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,561
in people who are
having heart disease
705
00:33:37,686 --> 00:33:39,146
we have to look a little further
706
00:33:39,271 --> 00:33:41,649
as to why that is and if
there are other factors,
707
00:33:41,774 --> 00:33:43,651
When you really
look at the studies
708
00:33:43,776 --> 00:33:46,362
and you crunch the
data, LDL is not
709
00:33:46,487 --> 00:33:48,364
the best marker
for heart disease,
710
00:33:48,489 --> 00:33:51,283
What's even more
powerful, are your ratios,
711
00:33:51,408 --> 00:33:54,411
So whether it's your total
cholesterol to HDL ratio
712
00:33:54,537 --> 00:33:57,081
or your triglyceride
to HDL ratio,
713
00:33:57,206 --> 00:34:01,210
Those have better predictive
value than LDL itself,
714
00:34:01,335 --> 00:34:03,963
The ratios indicate your level
715
00:34:04,129 --> 00:34:07,091
of insulin sensitivity
or insulin resistance
716
00:34:07,216 --> 00:34:08,842
so the best cholesterol measures
717
00:34:08,968 --> 00:34:11,053
are not actually
even talking about
718
00:34:11,178 --> 00:34:14,139
a cholesterol thing,
they are indirectly
719
00:34:14,265 --> 00:34:16,392
talking about insulin
resistance and health,
720
00:34:16,517 --> 00:34:21,647
A lot of the fat research, well
look we saw fat in
the coronary arteries
721
00:34:21,772 --> 00:34:24,233
and we thought that fat must
be coming from somewhere,
it must come from
722
00:34:24,358 --> 00:34:25,901
circulating fat and
that must come from
723
00:34:26,026 --> 00:34:28,946
ingested fat, it was a very
simplistic kind of idea,
724
00:34:29,071 --> 00:34:34,118
The contrary opinion,
the alternative hypothesis
725
00:34:34,243 --> 00:34:36,996
which has been
around for, ooh, a couple
726
00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:39,999
of hundred years,
is that we get fat
727
00:34:40,124 --> 00:34:43,127
because we eat
carbohydrates like pasta
728
00:34:43,252 --> 00:34:45,004
potatoes, bread, they
used to be called
729
00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:49,883
simple carbohydrates,
uhm, now the terminology
730
00:34:50,009 --> 00:34:51,552
is changing to
adjust to the fact
731
00:34:51,677 --> 00:34:53,887
that a lot of people
think maybe these
732
00:34:54,013 --> 00:34:55,556
starches as my
mother called them
733
00:34:55,681 --> 00:34:57,141
are not quite so good for us,
734
00:34:57,266 --> 00:35:01,145
We focused in, just
by timing and bad luck
735
00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:04,440
on this idea that saturated
fat causes heart disease
736
00:35:04,565 --> 00:35:06,150
and we bought into
it even though
737
00:35:06,275 --> 00:35:09,653
the evidence ultimately
didn't really support it
738
00:35:09,778 --> 00:35:13,699
and we made everything
else we believed
739
00:35:13,824 --> 00:35:17,077
about diet have to be
reconciled with that,
740
00:35:18,996 --> 00:35:20,956
[narrator] Dr. Keys
singling out of excessive...
741
00:35:27,671 --> 00:35:29,256
In front of us, day by day, are
742
00:35:29,381 --> 00:35:34,011
increasingly more and
more very tempting foods,
743
00:35:34,136 --> 00:35:38,140
In the mid-1960s, John Yudkin
comes on the scene, he's
a British scientist,
744
00:35:38,265 --> 00:35:40,225
He thinks sugar's the problem,
745
00:35:40,351 --> 00:35:42,728
[jaunty music]
746
00:35:43,646 --> 00:35:46,565
When people have heart disease,
they don't just have
elevated cholesterol,
747
00:35:46,690 --> 00:35:49,443
In fact they often don't
have elevated cholesterol,
748
00:35:49,568 --> 00:35:52,529
they have a whole cluster
of metabolic abnormalities,
749
00:35:52,655 --> 00:35:55,157
10, 15, 20 things
you could measure
750
00:35:55,282 --> 00:35:58,702
and Yudkin was saying
if I feed animals sugar
751
00:35:58,827 --> 00:36:00,788
or I feed college
students that I'm using
752
00:36:00,913 --> 00:36:02,498
in my experiments,
sugar, I could cause
753
00:36:02,623 --> 00:36:04,041
pretty much all of these things
754
00:36:04,166 --> 00:36:05,542
just by giving them
a lot of sugar,
755
00:36:05,668 --> 00:36:07,294
[jaunty music]
756
00:36:07,419 --> 00:36:09,838
So you're apt to say
2 or 300 years ago,
757
00:36:09,963 --> 00:36:11,215
the average consumption
758
00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,884
of sugar in this
country was about
759
00:36:14,009 --> 00:36:16,387
four pounds a year and
that's splendid,
760
00:36:16,512 --> 00:36:17,971
I'd be very happy
if everybody had
761
00:36:18,097 --> 00:36:19,640
four pounds of sugar a year,
762
00:36:19,765 --> 00:36:21,600
They eat a hundred pounds,
763
00:36:23,143 --> 00:36:24,311
[typewriter clacks]
764
00:36:30,609 --> 00:36:34,113
[narrator] Moreover, many sugar
containing foods,
cakes, candies, cookies,
765
00:36:34,238 --> 00:36:36,031
chocolate, ice
cream, various kinds
766
00:36:36,156 --> 00:36:38,242
of puddings, also contain fat.
767
00:36:38,367 --> 00:36:41,203
You always eat some fat,
so if you eat
768
00:36:41,328 --> 00:36:44,123
high carb foods, you
raise your blood glucose
769
00:36:44,289 --> 00:36:47,418
you raise your fat
storing hormone insulin
770
00:36:47,543 --> 00:36:49,461
and you're gonna store
the fat that you eat,
771
00:36:49,586 --> 00:36:51,296
It's all individual how much
772
00:36:51,422 --> 00:36:54,883
you can tolerate,
but if you eat more
773
00:36:55,008 --> 00:36:58,011
than your body can
tolerate, then you will
774
00:36:58,137 --> 00:37:00,055
most likely gain
weight, gain fat,
775
00:37:02,224 --> 00:37:03,267
[typewriter clacks]
776
00:37:14,153 --> 00:37:16,155
And instead of looking at it,
777
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,657
Ancel Keys just jumps
right on top of it
778
00:37:18,782 --> 00:37:22,578
in the media and turns
this guy into a nut job,
779
00:37:22,703 --> 00:37:25,748
Keys was really a bully
when it came to
780
00:37:25,873 --> 00:37:28,167
trying to quash anybody
who opposed him,
781
00:37:28,292 --> 00:37:30,169
Ancel Keys wasn't
gonna let anyone
782
00:37:30,294 --> 00:37:32,087
come in and rain on his parade,
783
00:37:32,212 --> 00:37:35,758
He published a
nine page rebuttal
784
00:37:35,883 --> 00:37:37,843
in a journal called
Atherosclerosis,
785
00:37:37,968 --> 00:37:40,763
in print, he said Yudkin is
a "mountain of nonsense,"
786
00:37:42,389 --> 00:37:44,099
[typewriter clacks]
787
00:37:49,521 --> 00:37:51,482
...in the etiology
of heart disease.
788
00:37:51,607 --> 00:37:53,400
Keys and his colleagues managed
789
00:37:53,525 --> 00:37:56,028
to paint Yudkin as a quack
and portray Yudkin
790
00:37:56,153 --> 00:37:58,155
and his sugar theory as quackery
791
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,074
and to say there is absolutely
no evidence to support it,
792
00:38:03,035 --> 00:38:04,328
[typewriter clacks]
793
00:38:07,539 --> 00:38:14,463
Keys was more-- had more
political influence
and more savvy maybe
794
00:38:14,588 --> 00:38:17,674
than Yudkin and somehow,
this dietary, and we were
795
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,719
spending money testing
the dietary fat hypothesis
796
00:38:20,844 --> 00:38:23,931
so even though the tests
weren't confirming it,
797
00:38:24,056 --> 00:38:25,891
the more money they spent,
the more people
798
00:38:26,016 --> 00:38:28,644
were wedded to the hypothesis
having to be right,
799
00:38:28,769 --> 00:38:31,688
These studies are
extremely expensive
800
00:38:31,814 --> 00:38:33,982
and there have been
enough good studies done
801
00:38:34,107 --> 00:38:36,401
to support our
moderate approach,
802
00:38:36,527 --> 00:38:39,071
which is looking
at balanced foods,
803
00:38:39,196 --> 00:38:42,950
vegetables, fruits, grains, and
lean meat and dairy products,
804
00:38:43,075 --> 00:38:46,245
The argument once again
is it has to be tested
805
00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:48,497
when you believe it's
wrong, prima facie,
806
00:38:48,622 --> 00:38:50,207
you're not gonna spend
the money to test it,
807
00:38:50,332 --> 00:38:52,459
Why are these
nutrition scientist
808
00:38:52,584 --> 00:38:55,045
just not more curious
about other ideas?
809
00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:56,713
I was at a conference recently
810
00:38:56,839 --> 00:38:58,465
where we talked about
a low carb study
811
00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:00,801
where they reversed
the diagnosis
812
00:39:00,926 --> 00:39:04,263
of diabetes for, it was a
large university-based study
813
00:39:04,388 --> 00:39:06,682
in just one year, on
a very low-carb diet
814
00:39:06,807 --> 00:39:10,143
and one of them said wait
what, diabetes reversal,
815
00:39:10,269 --> 00:39:12,771
wow, how'd you do that, can you
just explain your study
a little bit to us
816
00:39:12,896 --> 00:39:15,232
because that's what we,
as nutrition experts
817
00:39:15,357 --> 00:39:16,775
we really need to do in America,
818
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:19,278
[laughs] And I
actually got up to ask
819
00:39:19,403 --> 00:39:20,904
a question from
the audience I said--
820
00:39:21,029 --> 00:39:23,574
I said, did you hear that,
that was 60% reversal
821
00:39:23,699 --> 00:39:26,702
of diabetes, should that
not be headline news
822
00:39:26,827 --> 00:39:28,412
and should you not be curious?
823
00:39:28,537 --> 00:39:30,497
Why are you not even
curious about these ideas?
824
00:39:31,248 --> 00:39:32,749
[Vinnie] You know it makes
you think of stories
825
00:39:32,875 --> 00:39:34,167
like the McKenzie family,
826
00:39:34,293 --> 00:39:36,086
parents in South
Dakota who realized
827
00:39:36,211 --> 00:39:38,422
they had to take matters
into their own hands
828
00:39:38,547 --> 00:39:41,300
when their son lost five
pounds in five days,
829
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,177
I called the doctor that morning
and I explained that
I thought my son
830
00:39:44,303 --> 00:39:46,722
had rapidly lost weight
and something was wrong
831
00:39:46,847 --> 00:39:48,307
and we knew within five minutes
832
00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:50,225
of him doing
a urine analysis test
833
00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:52,269
that there was
sugar in his urine
834
00:39:52,394 --> 00:39:54,855
and we were escorted
to the hospital
835
00:39:54,980 --> 00:39:56,648
to learn how to
manage our new life,
836
00:39:57,399 --> 00:39:58,901
[upbeat music]
837
00:39:59,026 --> 00:40:00,444
[Matt]
We both concluded that we were
838
00:40:00,569 --> 00:40:02,946
gonna make drastic
changes in our diet,
839
00:40:03,071 --> 00:40:04,865
reducing carbohydrate intake,
840
00:40:06,158 --> 00:40:07,868
Shortly thereafter, we were told
841
00:40:07,993 --> 00:40:09,536
that we didn't need to do that,
842
00:40:09,661 --> 00:40:12,748
that we could feed our
son recently diagnosed
843
00:40:12,873 --> 00:40:15,042
with Type 1 diabetes
whatever he wanted to eat,
844
00:40:15,167 --> 00:40:16,919
Take a look,
845
00:40:17,044 --> 00:40:18,921
[Bethany] I'm trusting these
people, who are now
846
00:40:19,046 --> 00:40:20,339
in charge of caring for my son,
847
00:40:20,464 --> 00:40:22,341
and they're telling
me give him pancakes
848
00:40:22,466 --> 00:40:24,635
and give him french fries
and cupcakes
849
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,054
and pizza, because
now that your kid
850
00:40:27,179 --> 00:40:29,932
has this disease, his life
is pretty crummy already
851
00:40:30,057 --> 00:40:31,516
and the worst thing you could do
852
00:40:31,642 --> 00:40:33,101
as a parent is to try
and change his food,
853
00:40:33,226 --> 00:40:35,979
I fed my kid the exact
prescribed amount
854
00:40:36,104 --> 00:40:39,191
of carbohydrates, I
pre-bolused his insulin
855
00:40:39,316 --> 00:40:41,443
I put a continuous
glucose monitor on him
856
00:40:41,568 --> 00:40:43,612
I bought him a
diabetes alert dog,
857
00:40:43,737 --> 00:40:46,073
I literally did everything
in my own capacity
858
00:40:47,157 --> 00:40:50,077
to follow the guidelines
and manage his disease
859
00:40:50,202 --> 00:40:51,328
and I failed miserably,
860
00:40:51,453 --> 00:40:53,413
-[Matt] Riv?
-[kid wails]
861
00:40:55,958 --> 00:40:59,086
Do you want the yogurt,
the tablets, or the gel?
862
00:40:59,795 --> 00:41:02,172
[Bethany]
I put a big message out
in the social media groups
863
00:41:02,297 --> 00:41:04,299
that I'm connected to in
the diabetes community
864
00:41:04,424 --> 00:41:07,302
and I asked, how are
you people achieving
865
00:41:07,427 --> 00:41:08,971
normal blood sugars,
what are you doing?
866
00:41:09,096 --> 00:41:11,014
And about every fifth
answer I got
867
00:41:11,139 --> 00:41:12,391
was that these
people were changing
868
00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:15,394
their children's
diet and implementing
869
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,687
a very, very low carb diet,
870
00:41:18,772 --> 00:41:20,357
We removed
all the processed carbs,
871
00:41:20,482 --> 00:41:24,027
the flour, the sugar,
the grains, the fruit
872
00:41:24,152 --> 00:41:25,862
anything that would
spike his blood sugar
873
00:41:25,988 --> 00:41:27,906
and so the next
appointment we had
874
00:41:28,031 --> 00:41:29,950
with our endocrinologist
I skipped in there
875
00:41:30,075 --> 00:41:31,159
like I had won the lottery,
876
00:41:31,284 --> 00:41:32,953
Oh my goodness, I stumbled upon
877
00:41:33,078 --> 00:41:36,081
a low-carb diet and look
at my son's blood sugars
878
00:41:36,206 --> 00:41:38,208
and during that
appointment, our very
879
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:40,502
kind-hearted doctor looked at me
880
00:41:40,627 --> 00:41:42,838
and told me my son
was going to resent me
881
00:41:42,963 --> 00:41:45,132
for the rest of his life,
that this way
882
00:41:45,257 --> 00:41:47,426
of eating is not
sustainable, that I'm
883
00:41:47,592 --> 00:41:49,928
subjecting my son to
an eating disorder
884
00:41:50,053 --> 00:41:51,930
and he also handed me
a business card
885
00:41:52,055 --> 00:41:55,058
to go see a therapist,
uhm, because he thought
886
00:41:55,183 --> 00:41:57,185
maybe I was struggling
with some things
887
00:41:57,310 --> 00:42:00,355
and had some issues
for wanting to do this
888
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,857
for my son and to
change his diet,
889
00:42:01,982 --> 00:42:04,401
And I'm told to follow
these guidelines
890
00:42:04,526 --> 00:42:06,445
because without
those carbohydrates,
891
00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:09,531
my child won't grow properly
and his brain function
892
00:42:09,656 --> 00:42:11,825
will be compromised,
so when you're a parent
893
00:42:11,950 --> 00:42:13,452
of a Type 1 and you're told
894
00:42:13,577 --> 00:42:15,454
the American
Diabetes Association,
895
00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:18,248
this large governing body,
that must know
896
00:42:18,373 --> 00:42:19,875
exactly what we're up against,
897
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,003
they're recommending this,
that's intimidating,
898
00:42:24,629 --> 00:42:26,465
We either had to
either make a change
899
00:42:26,590 --> 00:42:28,800
or accept mediocre care,
900
00:42:28,925 --> 00:42:31,553
I'm an orthopedic
surgeon, it seems now
901
00:42:31,678 --> 00:42:34,222
as if it's the patients
that are trying
902
00:42:34,347 --> 00:42:36,683
to make the medical
community aware
903
00:42:36,808 --> 00:42:38,560
of what they
already know of what
904
00:42:38,685 --> 00:42:42,564
the patients know,
because they have tried
905
00:42:42,689 --> 00:42:46,068
to follow the rules as given
to them and they failed,
906
00:42:46,193 --> 00:42:48,695
When somebody comes
to me with the belief
907
00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:51,990
that they-- and they tell me,
I believe your son
908
00:42:52,115 --> 00:42:53,492
is gonna do better
if you feed them
909
00:42:53,617 --> 00:42:57,037
more carbohydrates,
I know they're wrong,
910
00:42:57,162 --> 00:42:59,372
And when it comes to
my son, I'm gonna do
911
00:42:59,498 --> 00:43:01,917
what I know as opposed
to what they believe,
912
00:43:03,251 --> 00:43:05,879
Our son went from
taking 45 to 50
913
00:43:06,004 --> 00:43:09,716
units of insulin every day
to maybe 15 units of insulin,
914
00:43:09,841 --> 00:43:12,260
If you extrapolate
that over every child
915
00:43:12,385 --> 00:43:13,970
with this disease,
you're gonna understand
916
00:43:14,096 --> 00:43:16,181
that that's gonna
have a marked effect
917
00:43:16,306 --> 00:43:18,934
on the profitability
of the disease,
918
00:43:19,059 --> 00:43:22,145
I think we underestimate
peoples ability
919
00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:24,564
to make a change, and
I think if there were
920
00:43:25,482 --> 00:43:27,901
doctors and nurses
and dieticians
921
00:43:28,026 --> 00:43:29,528
who were willing
to give patients
922
00:43:29,694 --> 00:43:31,113
that option, I think the face
923
00:43:31,238 --> 00:43:32,489
of diabetes would be different,
924
00:43:32,614 --> 00:43:34,533
We're a very weird
culture, because
925
00:43:34,658 --> 00:43:37,410
we have an endless
amount of energy
926
00:43:37,536 --> 00:43:39,287
to talk about almost everything,
927
00:43:39,412 --> 00:43:42,916
but when it comes
to the core issues
928
00:43:43,041 --> 00:43:45,752
and the ones that just
effect everything,
929
00:43:45,877 --> 00:43:48,421
such as family or such as diet,
930
00:43:48,547 --> 00:43:52,050
we have-- you know, just went
through an election,
931
00:43:52,175 --> 00:43:54,845
We talked about
everything, but no one
932
00:43:54,970 --> 00:43:57,681
ever talked about diet or family
or any of this stuff,
933
00:43:57,806 --> 00:44:01,434
Now you have kids
with Type 2 diabetes
you have fatty liver disease,
934
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,645
you have sleep apnea,
none of this stuff
935
00:44:03,770 --> 00:44:06,815
existed before and if you
think it's just old people
936
00:44:06,940 --> 00:44:09,401
using this, it's getting
younger and younger
937
00:44:09,526 --> 00:44:11,278
-and younger,
- It's an epidemic
938
00:44:11,403 --> 00:44:13,697
and it's one of those
things, like hey,
939
00:44:13,822 --> 00:44:15,740
powers that be, hey
folks in charge,
940
00:44:15,866 --> 00:44:18,201
let's, this is gonna
break the bank,
941
00:44:18,326 --> 00:44:22,247
How do people scream
all day about Medicare
942
00:44:22,372 --> 00:44:24,958
-and this doesn't come up?
- It never comes up,
943
00:44:25,083 --> 00:44:26,668
Because it's not sexy,
it doesn't work,
944
00:44:26,793 --> 00:44:29,171
You want votes, telling people
945
00:44:29,296 --> 00:44:33,175
like hard news, like, hey mom,
you're poisoning your kid
946
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,510
get your shit together,
no votes for you,
947
00:44:37,888 --> 00:44:40,265
The current recommendations,
it started in
948
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:43,393
the late 60s in response
to a documentary
949
00:44:43,518 --> 00:44:46,271
that aired on CBS News
called Hunger in America,
950
00:44:46,771 --> 00:44:48,607
[reporter]
This spring, a private agency,
951
00:44:48,773 --> 00:44:50,609
The Citizens' Board of Inquiry,
952
00:44:50,775 --> 00:44:52,861
released an exhaustive
report claiming
953
00:44:52,986 --> 00:44:56,239
that serious hunger
exists many places
954
00:44:56,364 --> 00:44:58,742
in the United States,
out of a total population
955
00:44:58,867 --> 00:45:01,036
of 200 million,
the report states,
956
00:45:01,161 --> 00:45:03,788
30 million Americans
are impoverished,
957
00:45:03,914 --> 00:45:07,250
With family income
below $3000 a year,
958
00:45:07,375 --> 00:45:09,252
Five million of these
people are helped
959
00:45:09,377 --> 00:45:12,172
by two existing
Federal food programs,
960
00:45:12,297 --> 00:45:14,841
Now, a new figure must be added,
961
00:45:14,966 --> 00:45:17,219
Of the 30 million
who are impoverished,
962
00:45:17,344 --> 00:45:19,846
10 million Americans,
whether or not
963
00:45:19,971 --> 00:45:22,098
they are reached by
Federal aid, are hungry,
964
00:45:22,224 --> 00:45:24,226
The Federal food
program might be
965
00:45:24,351 --> 00:45:25,810
better administered
by the Department
966
00:45:25,936 --> 00:45:27,896
of Health, Education and Welfare
967
00:45:28,021 --> 00:45:30,649
or by a special commission
whose only concern
968
00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:33,568
would be to see that
hungry Americans are fed,
969
00:45:33,693 --> 00:45:37,155
This leads right to 1968
and the McGovern Committee,
970
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,865
public calls to
address the issue
971
00:45:38,990 --> 00:45:40,951
of hunger had been
building, ever since
972
00:45:41,076 --> 00:45:43,036
Robert F. Kennedy had
toured the devastated
973
00:45:43,161 --> 00:45:44,537
slums of Mississippi,
974
00:45:44,663 --> 00:45:46,748
It's obviously as
great a poverty
975
00:45:46,873 --> 00:45:48,875
as we've had and
they're going to lead
976
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,877
a very difficult, unhappy life
977
00:45:51,002 --> 00:45:52,796
for the rest of their existence,
978
00:45:52,921 --> 00:45:54,965
[Vinnie] But it was George
McGovern, the Senator
979
00:45:55,090 --> 00:45:57,050
from South Dakota who
would head a committee
980
00:45:57,175 --> 00:46:00,178
that started in 1968,
privy to the poverty
981
00:46:00,303 --> 00:46:01,888
that the nation
was now aware of,
982
00:46:02,013 --> 00:46:03,682
the former director
of Food for peace
983
00:46:03,807 --> 00:46:05,976
in JFK's administration
was intent
984
00:46:06,101 --> 00:46:08,812
on bringing change that would
eventually effect all of us,
985
00:46:08,937 --> 00:46:13,483
It's always bothered me
to see hungry people
986
00:46:13,608 --> 00:46:15,694
in the world, I like to eat,
987
00:46:17,028 --> 00:46:20,407
If we are to save
ourselves in this country
988
00:46:20,532 --> 00:46:23,618
it seems to me that
a radical restructuring
989
00:46:23,743 --> 00:46:28,206
of our policies and priorities
is absolutely necessary.
990
00:46:28,832 --> 00:46:31,793
[solemn music]
991
00:46:31,918 --> 00:46:34,421
[narrator] There is nothing
more to say, really.
992
00:46:34,546 --> 00:46:38,049
Senator Kennedy died
at 1.44 this evening.
993
00:46:38,174 --> 00:46:39,301
[gunshots]
994
00:46:41,177 --> 00:46:42,679
We've got to draw
the line at violence,
995
00:46:42,804 --> 00:46:44,931
so I have mixed emotions,
I'm supporting
996
00:46:45,056 --> 00:46:47,225
the president as he tries to
bring this war to a close,
997
00:46:48,226 --> 00:46:49,936
[Paul] It was quite sad,
really, to break up
998
00:46:50,061 --> 00:46:52,314
with the Beatles, 'cause to see
it just fall apart was sad,
999
00:46:55,066 --> 00:46:56,359
[reporter]
We have a mystery story
1000
00:46:56,484 --> 00:46:58,111
out of Washington, five people
1001
00:46:58,236 --> 00:46:59,738
have been arrested and
charged with breaking
1002
00:46:59,863 --> 00:47:01,323
into the headquarters of
the Democratic National
1003
00:47:01,448 --> 00:47:02,741
Committee in the
middle of the night.
1004
00:47:02,866 --> 00:47:06,036
When you think of 1972, 1973,
1005
00:47:06,161 --> 00:47:08,580
we're still in Vietnam,
it's not a popular war,
1006
00:47:08,705 --> 00:47:13,626
-[crowd chanting]
- Then 1972 comes around
and we have Watergate,
1007
00:47:13,752 --> 00:47:15,628
people have got to
know whether or not
1008
00:47:15,754 --> 00:47:18,089
their president's a crook,
well I'm not a crook,
1009
00:47:18,214 --> 00:47:21,634
people were just in
a haze about diet,
1010
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,304
No one was really
paying attention to
this McGovern Committee,
1011
00:47:24,429 --> 00:47:26,306
we had bigger problems,
1012
00:47:26,431 --> 00:47:28,892
-[crowd cheers]
- This complacency at the time
1013
00:47:29,017 --> 00:47:31,644
is what allowed these
health myths to seep in,
1014
00:47:32,896 --> 00:47:34,773
As you know, I
represent all sorts
1015
00:47:34,898 --> 00:47:37,359
of delicious things,
greasy bacon,
1016
00:47:38,610 --> 00:47:41,738
potato chips, french
fries, potatoes,
1017
00:47:41,863 --> 00:47:45,116
fatty meats and gobs of
butter on everything,
1018
00:47:45,241 --> 00:47:47,452
-[crowd cheers]
- Now as you know, us fats
1019
00:47:47,577 --> 00:47:49,412
separately are just little guys,
1020
00:47:49,537 --> 00:47:51,956
but put us all together
and what do you have?
1021
00:47:52,082 --> 00:47:53,291
You have millions of calories,
1022
00:47:53,416 --> 00:47:54,959
that's what,
I have to store those
1023
00:47:55,085 --> 00:47:57,379
calories as fat and I
can't take it anymore,
1024
00:47:57,504 --> 00:48:00,298
I'm getting bigger
and bigger and bigger!
1025
00:48:00,423 --> 00:48:02,050
And the bigger he gets,
the harder
1026
00:48:02,175 --> 00:48:03,802
his heart cells have
to work, Mr, Fat,
1027
00:48:03,927 --> 00:48:04,844
you're a real killer!
1028
00:48:06,137 --> 00:48:08,181
[Vinnie]
You know, I don't know
the answer, but why is it
1029
00:48:08,306 --> 00:48:10,183
whenever a new study
comes out, it's always
1030
00:48:10,308 --> 00:48:13,269
talking about how food
is gonna kill you?
1031
00:48:13,395 --> 00:48:14,813
I think that's a
major misdirection
1032
00:48:14,979 --> 00:48:17,232
to what we should be focused on,
1033
00:48:17,357 --> 00:48:19,734
Food should be used
to prevent illness,
1034
00:48:19,859 --> 00:48:22,153
not to just help reverse
it once it's too late,
1035
00:48:22,278 --> 00:48:23,822
One of the areas we
haven't talked about
1036
00:48:23,988 --> 00:48:25,824
until recently, is
how food can affect
1037
00:48:25,949 --> 00:48:27,075
your brain health,
1038
00:48:27,951 --> 00:48:29,828
[Dr. Ede] I became interested
in mental health
1039
00:48:29,953 --> 00:48:31,830
and the connection
between mental health
1040
00:48:31,996 --> 00:48:33,790
and diet after I
had developed a lot
1041
00:48:33,915 --> 00:48:36,584
of my own health
problems and had changed
1042
00:48:36,709 --> 00:48:39,295
my diet and discovered that diet
1043
00:48:39,421 --> 00:48:41,548
had a lot more to do with health
1044
00:48:41,673 --> 00:48:44,717
and mental health than I had
ever been taught that it had,
1045
00:48:44,843 --> 00:48:46,553
In my early 40s,
about ten years ago,
1046
00:48:46,678 --> 00:48:48,471
I developed a number
of mysterious symptoms
1047
00:48:48,596 --> 00:48:50,473
that I think a lot
of people, especially
1048
00:48:50,598 --> 00:48:52,475
middle aged women
will identify with,
1049
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,728
so things like chronic
pain, fibromyalgia,
1050
00:48:55,854 --> 00:48:59,357
IBS, chronic fatigue, migraines,
1051
00:48:59,482 --> 00:49:02,485
uh, lots of different
symptoms that all
1052
00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:04,737
of my very smart
Harvard-affiliated doctors
1053
00:49:04,863 --> 00:49:07,198
couldn't help me with,
After about six months
1054
00:49:07,323 --> 00:49:09,868
of trial and error, I
arrived at this diet
1055
00:49:09,993 --> 00:49:12,704
that was completely upside down
1056
00:49:12,829 --> 00:49:14,622
from what I had been
taught was good for me,
1057
00:49:14,747 --> 00:49:16,708
It was basically a
mostly meat diet,
1058
00:49:16,833 --> 00:49:19,335
high in meat and
fat and cholesterol
1059
00:49:19,461 --> 00:49:21,963
and when I arrived at that diet,
1060
00:49:22,088 --> 00:49:23,465
all of the symptoms
that I had been
1061
00:49:23,590 --> 00:49:26,676
struggling with
completely went away
1062
00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:30,722
and I thought, you know, this
diet actually is also
1063
00:49:30,847 --> 00:49:32,223
improving my mental
health and I'm
1064
00:49:32,348 --> 00:49:34,476
a psychiatrist,
the most powerful way
1065
00:49:34,601 --> 00:49:35,894
to change your brain chemistry
1066
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:37,520
would be through food,
because that's where
1067
00:49:37,645 --> 00:49:39,731
brain chemicals come from
in the first place,
1068
00:49:39,856 --> 00:49:42,025
If you're getting
most of your sugar
1069
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:44,402
and most of your
glucose from the
1070
00:49:44,527 --> 00:49:46,404
outside of the body,
you run the risk
1071
00:49:46,529 --> 00:49:49,407
of getting spikes,
uh, peaks and troughs
1072
00:49:49,532 --> 00:49:51,159
in your blood sugar
and insulin level
1073
00:49:51,284 --> 00:49:53,995
and those can destabilize
brain chemistry,
1074
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,914
so those can create mood swings,
1075
00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:58,917
insomnia, irritability, changes
1076
00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:00,752
in appetite throughout
the course of the day,
1077
00:50:00,877 --> 00:50:02,420
When you eat a ketogenic diet,
1078
00:50:02,545 --> 00:50:05,423
you're using fat
primarily for energy
1079
00:50:05,548 --> 00:50:08,885
and the brain is using,
to a large extent,
1080
00:50:09,010 --> 00:50:10,553
ketones instead of glucose,
1081
00:50:10,678 --> 00:50:13,890
Today, if you're
anywhere near Google
1082
00:50:14,015 --> 00:50:15,308
you will learn that [laughs]
1083
00:50:15,433 --> 00:50:17,101
This is known as
dietary ketosis,
1084
00:50:17,227 --> 00:50:19,938
[somber music]
1085
00:50:20,104 --> 00:50:24,734
Most healthcare professionals
are familiar with ketoacidosis,
and that's a state
1086
00:50:24,859 --> 00:50:26,694
where the body is
out of control,
1087
00:50:26,819 --> 00:50:28,530
Diabetes it out of control,
1088
00:50:28,655 --> 00:50:30,657
Blood glucose is
through the roof,
1089
00:50:30,782 --> 00:50:32,450
insulin is not able
to keep up with
1090
00:50:32,575 --> 00:50:34,744
this glucose derangement
and so that's
1091
00:50:34,869 --> 00:50:37,121
a life threatening
state when you're
1092
00:50:37,247 --> 00:50:39,207
a Type 2 diabetic of control,
1093
00:50:39,332 --> 00:50:43,044
Nutritional ketosis is
quite a different scenario,
1094
00:50:43,169 --> 00:50:46,172
Blood sugar's
absolutely under control,
1095
00:50:46,297 --> 00:50:48,341
the patient is healthy
in every single way
1096
00:50:48,466 --> 00:50:52,220
electrolytes, insulin, glucose,
perfectly, perfectly controlled,
1097
00:50:52,345 --> 00:50:55,139
We have now trained
the body to switch over
1098
00:50:55,265 --> 00:50:58,142
from burning carbohydrate
as the primary fuel,
1099
00:50:58,268 --> 00:51:01,145
Now the individual
becomes fat adapted
1100
00:51:01,271 --> 00:51:05,233
and they use fat as the
primary source of energy
1101
00:51:05,358 --> 00:51:07,527
and that's really
the difference between
1102
00:51:07,652 --> 00:51:10,572
a very unhealthy and
a very healthy state,
1103
00:51:10,697 --> 00:51:13,533
[beeps and breathing]
1104
00:51:13,658 --> 00:51:18,997
We had a scientific question in
the 1960s where the researchers
asked the wrong question,
1105
00:51:19,122 --> 00:51:20,999
but they were questions
we needed answered,
1106
00:51:21,165 --> 00:51:23,376
We know that the
way you gain weight
1107
00:51:23,501 --> 00:51:27,964
is you take in more calories
than you don't-- than you burn,
1108
00:51:28,089 --> 00:51:30,216
And those calories
can be fat or they
1109
00:51:30,341 --> 00:51:31,426
can be carbohydrate,
1110
00:51:31,551 --> 00:51:33,177
And so they get this hypothesis
1111
00:51:33,303 --> 00:51:35,013
which sounds reasonable
that fat people
1112
00:51:35,138 --> 00:51:36,723
get fat because they
accumulate a little
1113
00:51:36,848 --> 00:51:40,143
of extra calories every day
and we could get
1114
00:51:40,268 --> 00:51:42,020
back to this by
not asking how much
1115
00:51:42,186 --> 00:51:44,022
extra calories, they
don't have to really
1116
00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:46,107
confront the problems
with the hypothesis
1117
00:51:46,232 --> 00:51:48,776
and that becomes the
theory ever since,
1118
00:51:48,901 --> 00:51:50,528
The history of
science once again,
1119
00:51:50,653 --> 00:51:53,031
is full of common sensical facts
1120
00:51:53,197 --> 00:51:55,366
that turned out to be dead wrong
when we did the science,
1121
00:51:55,491 --> 00:51:58,661
You're certain, you use
words like it proves
1122
00:51:58,786 --> 00:52:03,207
when you look at the data, it
either isn't there, or we
just didn't do the experiment,
1123
00:52:03,333 --> 00:52:05,793
[Vinnie] Speaking of
experiments, here's a timeline
1124
00:52:05,918 --> 00:52:08,046
of events that happened
with the McGovern Committee,
1125
00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:10,173
After a year of
fighting for funding,
1126
00:52:10,298 --> 00:52:13,301
the committee operations
began in 1969,
1127
00:52:13,426 --> 00:52:15,261
There were Democrats
and Republicans
1128
00:52:15,386 --> 00:52:16,929
including future
presidential candidates,
1129
00:52:17,055 --> 00:52:20,308
George McGovern, Walter
Mondale and Bob Dole,
1130
00:52:20,433 --> 00:52:22,060
The initial goals
of the committee
1131
00:52:22,185 --> 00:52:24,145
centered around hunger
and malnutrition
1132
00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:26,522
and this led to the
legislation in 1970
1133
00:52:26,648 --> 00:52:28,149
with principles of
free food stamps
1134
00:52:28,274 --> 00:52:30,360
and nationwide standards
for eligibility,
1135
00:52:32,236 --> 00:52:34,781
It was in 1971 that
the committee expanded
1136
00:52:34,906 --> 00:52:36,991
to focus on eating habits
in poor neighborhoods,
1137
00:52:37,116 --> 00:52:40,411
but in 1972, this
extremely pressing issue
1138
00:52:40,536 --> 00:52:41,996
was put on hold so that McGovern
1139
00:52:42,121 --> 00:52:44,874
could run for president,
When he lost 49 States
1140
00:52:44,999 --> 00:52:46,250
to Richard Nixon,
who would eventually
1141
00:52:46,376 --> 00:52:48,711
resign and be
replaced by this guy,
1142
00:52:48,836 --> 00:52:50,546
it was back to fixing
America's health,
1143
00:53:05,687 --> 00:53:08,648
Unfortunately, dietary
guidelines, were based
1144
00:53:08,773 --> 00:53:12,485
on the singular focus
to lower cholesterol,
1145
00:53:12,610 --> 00:53:14,278
Why we're treating heart disease
1146
00:53:14,404 --> 00:53:16,698
by supposedly lowering
bad cholesterol,
1147
00:53:16,823 --> 00:53:18,783
we're gonna help
people lose weight,
1148
00:53:19,909 --> 00:53:22,286
[Vinnie] If you tell a public
of 250 million people
1149
00:53:22,412 --> 00:53:23,955
what they're eating
is gonna kill em
1150
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,331
they're gonna probably listen,
1151
00:53:26,374 --> 00:53:27,959
And the unintended
consequence is that
1152
00:53:28,084 --> 00:53:29,961
someone is gonna step in
and take advantage
1153
00:53:30,086 --> 00:53:32,547
of these people when
it doesn't work, right?
1154
00:53:32,672 --> 00:53:34,132
[dramatic music]
1155
00:53:34,298 --> 00:53:36,342
Coincidentally, drug
companies were spending
1156
00:53:36,467 --> 00:53:40,138
millions of dollars developing
drugs to target LBL,
1157
00:53:40,304 --> 00:53:42,890
[Ivor] In the 80s and 90s,
a class of drugs
1158
00:53:43,015 --> 00:53:44,434
was invented called the statins,
1159
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,478
and these drugs did
lower the cholesterol
1160
00:53:47,603 --> 00:53:49,731
very effectively and
they also were shown
1161
00:53:49,856 --> 00:53:51,149
to lower heart disease rates,
1162
00:53:51,315 --> 00:53:53,151
But the question
that's probably more
1163
00:53:53,317 --> 00:53:55,361
interesting to me,
that I think should be
1164
00:53:55,486 --> 00:53:58,114
more interesting
to you, is does it
help you live longer?
1165
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,324
It might reduce heart attacks
1166
00:54:00,450 --> 00:54:03,453
by 20 or 30 percent at best,
and it doesn't
1167
00:54:03,578 --> 00:54:05,538
really reduce mortality much,
1168
00:54:05,663 --> 00:54:07,498
We like simple
answers that we have
1169
00:54:07,623 --> 00:54:09,667
treatments for, but
that's not where
1170
00:54:09,792 --> 00:54:13,880
the best evaluation and
treatment for heart disease is,
1171
00:54:14,005 --> 00:54:16,007
[Vinnie] It's absolutely
amazing to me,
1172
00:54:16,132 --> 00:54:18,426
the trajectory of
statins and low fat diets
1173
00:54:18,551 --> 00:54:19,844
with everything
we have today stem
1174
00:54:19,969 --> 00:54:21,596
from a Committee
that was focused
1175
00:54:21,721 --> 00:54:23,264
on poverty and
people who weren't
1176
00:54:23,389 --> 00:54:25,433
getting enough to
eat, And somehow
1177
00:54:25,558 --> 00:54:28,478
cholesterol got into the
mix, thanks to Ancel Keys,
1178
00:54:28,603 --> 00:54:30,313
- And in a complete U-turn,,,
-[car screeches]
1179
00:54:30,438 --> 00:54:32,857
,,,in 1974, they
expanded the committee
1180
00:54:32,982 --> 00:54:34,609
to focus on overnutrition,
1181
00:54:34,734 --> 00:54:36,652
The very recommendations made
1182
00:54:36,778 --> 00:54:38,821
led to people
eating way too much
1183
00:54:38,946 --> 00:54:41,199
of the wrong kind of food,
so now we have
1184
00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:42,784
just the opposite problem,
we don't have
1185
00:54:42,909 --> 00:54:46,162
a hunger problem, we
have an obesity epidemic,
1186
00:54:47,622 --> 00:54:49,415
-[solemn music]
[narrator] The Senate Committee
1187
00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:51,876
finally issued a
set of dietary goals
1188
00:54:52,001 --> 00:54:55,880
in December 1977, the
McGovern Committee
1189
00:54:56,005 --> 00:54:58,174
issued a set of
nutritional guidelines
1190
00:54:58,299 --> 00:55:00,593
for all Americans,
intended to battle
1191
00:55:00,718 --> 00:55:02,929
heart disease, cancers, strokes,
1192
00:55:03,054 --> 00:55:04,806
high blood pressure, obesity.
1193
00:55:04,931 --> 00:55:07,225
In the dietary
guidelines for Americans,
1194
00:55:07,391 --> 00:55:10,228
they recommend fewer
calories, less fat,
1195
00:55:10,353 --> 00:55:13,022
less saturated fat,
less cholesterol,
1196
00:55:13,147 --> 00:55:14,941
more poly-unsaturated fat.
1197
00:55:15,066 --> 00:55:18,444
All in favor of nominating
vegetable oils, say aye,
1198
00:55:18,569 --> 00:55:20,446
[all] Aye,
1199
00:55:20,571 --> 00:55:22,240
[narrator]
Less sugar, less salt,
1200
00:55:22,365 --> 00:55:24,242
more fiber, more starchy food.
1201
00:55:24,367 --> 00:55:25,910
The Committee's original report
1202
00:55:26,035 --> 00:55:27,829
urged Americans
to reduce the risk
1203
00:55:27,954 --> 00:55:30,206
of heart attacks by
reducing their intake
1204
00:55:30,331 --> 00:55:33,334
of cholesterol, down
to the equivalent
of about one egg a day,
1205
00:55:33,459 --> 00:55:35,002
[Vinnie] This great
experiment we were doing
1206
00:55:35,127 --> 00:55:37,463
with tax dollars
seemed to have one idea
1207
00:55:37,588 --> 00:55:40,925
repeated over and over,
cholesterol is bad,
cholesterol is bad,
1208
00:55:41,050 --> 00:55:42,927
On its own or in conjunction
with other things,
1209
00:55:43,052 --> 00:55:44,554
One way to look at it, is that
1210
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,223
saturated fats are healthy
when you're not
1211
00:55:47,348 --> 00:55:49,892
eating carbohydrates,
or that saturated fat
1212
00:55:50,017 --> 00:55:52,353
was never unhealthy all along,
1213
00:55:52,478 --> 00:55:54,272
but that gets you into the realm
1214
00:55:54,438 --> 00:55:57,024
of you're telling people that
what they've believed, is wrong,
1215
00:55:57,149 --> 00:55:59,277
[Vinnie] As time has
gone on, both doctors
1216
00:55:59,443 --> 00:56:01,779
and private citizens have
done their own experiments,
1217
00:56:01,904 --> 00:56:03,781
As a software engineer,
I look a lot
1218
00:56:03,906 --> 00:56:06,701
at networks,
Networks are basically
1219
00:56:06,826 --> 00:56:09,203
objects talking to
each other and a lot
1220
00:56:09,328 --> 00:56:10,955
of understanding a
network is kind of like
1221
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,791
understanding a brain,
no one cell in the brain
1222
00:56:13,916 --> 00:56:16,168
controls your whole body,
and actually
1223
00:56:16,294 --> 00:56:18,170
cholesterol was part of a larger
1224
00:56:18,296 --> 00:56:20,131
network of objects and how it is
1225
00:56:20,256 --> 00:56:22,967
that they can move about to
provide us with what we need,
1226
00:56:23,092 --> 00:56:24,385
[Vinnie] Another thing we
don't talk about
1227
00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:26,262
is how complicated
the human body is,
1228
00:56:26,387 --> 00:56:27,680
For the Government
to even recommend
1229
00:56:27,805 --> 00:56:29,390
what you should be
eating in the first place
1230
00:56:29,515 --> 00:56:31,601
is one thing, but
for them to do it
1231
00:56:31,726 --> 00:56:33,561
in such a simplistic
way, is another,
1232
00:56:33,686 --> 00:56:35,146
There were certain
scientists that
1233
00:56:35,271 --> 00:56:36,981
had some hypothesis
and they said
1234
00:56:37,106 --> 00:56:39,150
well some of the
stuff we're looking at
1235
00:56:39,275 --> 00:56:41,694
is leaning towards
red meat might be
1236
00:56:41,819 --> 00:56:45,281
bad for your heart, the
Commission would say
well, what do you think?
1237
00:56:45,406 --> 00:56:47,325
[reporter] Doctors took issue
with that at the hearing
1238
00:56:47,450 --> 00:56:49,327
saying that eight
studies involving
1239
00:56:49,452 --> 00:56:51,787
five thousand patients
failed to show
1240
00:56:51,913 --> 00:56:53,331
hard medical evidence that diet
1241
00:56:53,456 --> 00:56:55,333
has anything to do
with heart attacks.
1242
00:56:55,458 --> 00:56:57,835
I pleaded in my report
and will plead again
1243
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,504
orally here for more
research on the problem
1244
00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:02,632
before we make announcements
to the American public,
1245
00:57:03,674 --> 00:57:07,011
[Vinnie] Yes, before you make
announcements to the public,
you should have data
1246
00:57:07,136 --> 00:57:10,723
that proves what you're saying,
Maybe like Dave Feldman did,
1247
00:57:10,848 --> 00:57:15,353
My story's a bit interesting,
I found that I could
move my cholesterol
1248
00:57:15,478 --> 00:57:18,731
up and down with the
dietary fat that I ate,
1249
00:57:18,856 --> 00:57:21,943
The more fat I ate,
the lower my LDL-C,
1250
00:57:22,068 --> 00:57:25,237
The less fat I ate,
the higher my LDL-C,
1251
00:57:25,363 --> 00:57:26,822
[dramatic music]
1252
00:57:26,948 --> 00:57:28,783
[Vinnie] On a three
day diet of over
1253
00:57:28,908 --> 00:57:32,036
5000 calories and
450 grams of fat,
1254
00:57:32,161 --> 00:57:34,538
he lowered every
marker of cholesterol,
1255
00:57:34,664 --> 00:57:36,248
I eventually got a number
of other people
1256
00:57:36,374 --> 00:57:38,167
to replicate this,
the success rate
1257
00:57:38,292 --> 00:57:40,378
is somewhere around
85% of those people
1258
00:57:40,503 --> 00:57:41,963
when on a low carb
high fat diet,
1259
00:57:42,088 --> 00:57:44,924
Fatty cheeses, fatty
meats, fatty nuts
1260
00:57:45,049 --> 00:57:47,802
and in doing so, even
though their calories
1261
00:57:47,927 --> 00:57:49,261
increase substantially,
even though
1262
00:57:49,387 --> 00:57:52,014
their saturated fat just
jumps through the roof,
1263
00:57:52,139 --> 00:57:55,643
their LDL-C and their total
cholesterol plummeted,
1264
00:57:55,768 --> 00:57:57,395
It's a very unintuitive,
but sure enough
1265
00:57:57,561 --> 00:58:01,399
the more fat they would eat,
the lower their LDL-C,
1266
00:58:01,524 --> 00:58:03,359
[Vinnie] Dave Feldman
is not a doctor at all,
1267
00:58:03,484 --> 00:58:07,154
This guy took all of the
science that was available
1268
00:58:07,279 --> 00:58:09,490
and figured it out, yet members
1269
00:58:09,615 --> 00:58:11,117
of a publicly funded Committee
1270
00:58:11,242 --> 00:58:12,827
took ten years to
find nothing and when
1271
00:58:12,952 --> 00:58:15,287
they were pressured to
change recommendations
1272
00:58:15,413 --> 00:58:16,664
with no science to back it up
1273
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:18,416
they ran around in
circles for a while
1274
00:58:18,541 --> 00:58:19,667
and came out with
the same report
1275
00:58:19,792 --> 00:58:21,335
but this time they
said, oh, you can
1276
00:58:21,460 --> 00:58:23,421
have some meat and some salt,
1277
00:58:23,546 --> 00:58:25,589
I would only argue that Senators
1278
00:58:25,715 --> 00:58:28,968
don't have the luxury that
a research scientist does
1279
00:58:29,093 --> 00:58:32,430
of waiting until every last
shred of evidence is in,
1280
00:58:32,555 --> 00:58:34,932
[Vinnie] So there you have
it, the national advice
1281
00:58:35,057 --> 00:58:37,643
that everything you
see today is based on,
1282
00:58:37,768 --> 00:58:41,313
That report was then taken over
1283
00:58:41,439 --> 00:58:43,858
to become Government--
official Government policy
1284
00:58:43,983 --> 00:58:46,360
so it went over to the US
Department of Agriculture
1285
00:58:46,485 --> 00:58:50,114
and by 1980, they came
out with the policy
1286
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:53,200
which was the dietary
guidelines for all Americans,
1287
00:58:53,325 --> 00:58:55,745
I think it's audacious
that the Government
1288
00:58:55,870 --> 00:58:58,581
based on very weak
evidence should tell
1289
00:58:58,706 --> 00:59:01,542
Americans what to eat, a
healthy population at the time,
1290
00:59:01,667 --> 00:59:03,711
[Vinnie] How do you tell some
guy from the Midwest
1291
00:59:03,836 --> 00:59:05,963
who's been living on
beef his entire life
1292
00:59:06,088 --> 00:59:08,382
to start eating vegetables,
especially at that time
1293
00:59:08,507 --> 00:59:10,718
you couldn't get em
year round, you couldn't
1294
00:59:10,843 --> 00:59:13,596
get fruit year round, it
wasn't like it is today
1295
00:59:13,721 --> 00:59:17,433
where we refrigerate and ship
fruits and vegetables
around the world,
1296
00:59:17,558 --> 00:59:19,143
You're telling people
from different parts
1297
00:59:19,268 --> 00:59:21,312
of the United States what to do,
1298
00:59:21,437 --> 00:59:23,314
how to do it and everyone's just
1299
00:59:23,439 --> 00:59:24,565
throwing their hands up, going,
1300
00:59:24,690 --> 00:59:26,025
I'm gonna do the best I can,
1301
00:59:27,651 --> 00:59:29,487
Do I think the
Government was complicit
1302
00:59:29,653 --> 00:59:32,364
in causing this problem, yes,
1303
00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:35,785
Do I think they meant to
do it, absolutely not,
1304
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:38,496
I think McGovern's heart
was in the right place,
1305
00:59:38,662 --> 00:59:40,414
they just went the
wrong way about it,
1306
00:59:40,539 --> 00:59:43,793
But we went on that experiment
and the Government put us
1307
00:59:43,918 --> 00:59:46,629
on that experiment, they didn't
ask us about it,
they didn't
1308
00:59:46,754 --> 00:59:50,299
ask our advice, they just told
us how to eat, then they
told the food industry,
1309
00:59:50,424 --> 00:59:54,261
uh, asked the food industry to
produce low fat food products,
1310
00:59:54,386 --> 00:59:57,056
[narrator] Industry
slowly is responding
1311
00:59:57,181 --> 00:59:58,641
to it, producing
foods that are lower
1312
00:59:58,766 --> 01:00:01,018
in salt and fat and
so on and people
1313
01:00:01,143 --> 01:00:02,144
are beginning to
get the message,
1314
01:00:02,269 --> 01:00:04,271
Low cholesterol, no cholesterol,
1315
01:00:04,396 --> 01:00:06,273
- lowers cholesterol,
- Good fat, bad fat,
1316
01:00:06,398 --> 01:00:08,526
- low fat, non-fat,
- Milk suddenly came
1317
01:00:08,692 --> 01:00:12,738
in, you know, a bewildering
number of varieties
1318
01:00:12,863 --> 01:00:16,075
all of them reduced in fat
and whether or not
1319
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,660
it was a result
of the experiment,
1320
01:00:17,785 --> 01:00:20,663
this coincided with
the obesity explosions
1321
01:00:20,788 --> 01:00:23,082
in obesity and diabetes
we've been seeing today,
1322
01:00:23,207 --> 01:00:25,292
[dramatic music]
1323
01:00:27,253 --> 01:00:30,798
The 1980s brought in all
sorts of brand new foods,
1324
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:42,309
[commercial] There's a
Dannon body in everybody.
1325
01:00:42,434 --> 01:00:44,270
Unlike some yogurts,
it's low in fat.
1326
01:00:44,395 --> 01:00:45,271
[All] Wow!
1327
01:00:45,396 --> 01:00:47,356
The whole thought pattern was,
1328
01:00:47,481 --> 01:00:49,817
if you didn't eat fat,
you couldn't get fat,
1329
01:00:49,942 --> 01:00:52,278
Not having fat does
not automatically
1330
01:00:52,403 --> 01:00:54,113
make something health food
and that's where
1331
01:00:54,238 --> 01:00:56,949
we get into this
debate about is it just
1332
01:00:57,074 --> 01:00:59,743
calories in, calories out,
does it not matter
1333
01:00:59,869 --> 01:01:01,662
what we eat as long as
we're burning
1334
01:01:01,787 --> 01:01:03,122
enough calories to burn it off?
1335
01:01:03,247 --> 01:01:04,874
We still don't know if
eating a low fat diet
1336
01:01:04,999 --> 01:01:08,127
is a good thing, some of
the smartest scientists
1337
01:01:08,252 --> 01:01:10,504
and the president of the
National Academy of Sciences
1338
01:01:10,629 --> 01:01:13,841
in the late 1970s called
this a huge experiment
1339
01:01:13,966 --> 01:01:17,386
in which the American
public were the subjects,
1340
01:01:19,346 --> 01:01:20,556
[typewriter clacks]
1341
01:01:29,398 --> 01:01:31,734
Let's examine why
there is so much
1342
01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:34,445
confusion about good nutrition,
1343
01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:36,322
One reason is that
we have been given
1344
01:01:36,447 --> 01:01:38,699
a lot of misinformation, usually
1345
01:01:38,824 --> 01:01:40,409
by those looking
to make a profit,
1346
01:01:40,534 --> 01:01:43,204
-[jaunty music]
- Today, there are still
1347
01:01:43,329 --> 01:01:46,207
many unusual ideas as
to what you should eat,
1348
01:01:49,251 --> 01:01:51,545
people tend to believe
that just because
1349
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:54,340
it's in print or on
television, it must be true,
1350
01:01:54,465 --> 01:01:56,592
The 80s also
brought in all sorts
1351
01:01:56,717 --> 01:01:58,135
of new fitness trends,
1352
01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:00,095
[upbeat music]
1353
01:02:01,847 --> 01:02:03,515
[commercial]
Make the commitment now
1354
01:02:03,641 --> 01:02:05,517
and watch how fast
you see results.
1355
01:02:08,312 --> 01:02:09,605
Are you ready to do the workout?
1356
01:02:09,730 --> 01:02:13,359
We couldn't get enough
of fitness in the 1980s,
1357
01:02:13,484 --> 01:02:15,778
but although we were
doing all of this,
1358
01:02:15,903 --> 01:02:17,238
we weren't getting any thinner,
1359
01:02:17,363 --> 01:02:19,114
Sugar consumption increases
1360
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,741
in part with the introduction of
1361
01:02:20,866 --> 01:02:22,785
high-fructose corn syrup
and that's
1362
01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:24,870
an unintended
consequence of these
1363
01:02:24,995 --> 01:02:27,456
Government actions,
it's arguably the case
1364
01:02:27,581 --> 01:02:31,502
if they had done
nothing, we wouldn't
1365
01:02:31,627 --> 01:02:32,878
have had this epidemic,
we might have had
1366
01:02:33,003 --> 01:02:36,882
it anyway, but they probably,
1367
01:02:37,007 --> 01:02:39,134
almost assuredly, made it worse,
1368
01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:40,803
For 25 years we've been pushing
1369
01:02:40,928 --> 01:02:43,514
a low fat dogma, that
said eat less fat
1370
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:47,142
first it said eat less
total fat and you'll have
less heart disease,
1371
01:02:47,268 --> 01:02:50,980
- less cancer and
you'll weigh less,
- But that's not exactly true,
1372
01:02:51,105 --> 01:02:53,857
This started because
there's incontrovertible
1373
01:02:53,983 --> 01:02:56,652
evidence that
saturated fat is bad
1374
01:02:56,777 --> 01:02:59,989
and that is well established
in long-term trials,
1375
01:03:00,114 --> 01:03:02,157
You build up in a
community, institutions
1376
01:03:02,283 --> 01:03:04,827
organizations, everybody
collects to them,
1377
01:03:04,952 --> 01:03:07,871
people who think
just like they do,
1378
01:03:07,997 --> 01:03:10,708
Like we like each other,
we respect each other
1379
01:03:10,874 --> 01:03:13,919
'cause we think alike
[laughs] you know,
1380
01:03:14,044 --> 01:03:15,212
I know nothing about
you other than that
1381
01:03:15,337 --> 01:03:17,339
you think like I do,
so I respect
1382
01:03:17,464 --> 01:03:20,342
the way you think and
institutions do this
1383
01:03:20,467 --> 01:03:21,719
and then somebody
else comes along
1384
01:03:21,844 --> 01:03:23,929
from the outside
and says, oh you guys
1385
01:03:24,054 --> 01:03:26,307
all got it wrong, look,
here's the evidence,
1386
01:03:26,432 --> 01:03:28,851
all these obese diabetic
people neck-deep
1387
01:03:28,976 --> 01:03:31,979
in obesity and diabetes,
we got to change everything,
1388
01:03:32,938 --> 01:03:36,859
It's hard to accept,
it's hard to back out of,
1389
01:03:36,984 --> 01:03:38,861
There's no way to back out of it
1390
01:03:38,986 --> 01:03:40,946
that doesn't destroy
your credibility,
1391
01:03:41,572 --> 01:03:44,658
[woman] In this country, we
have freedom of choice
1392
01:03:44,783 --> 01:03:47,328
to say what we wanna say,
we have freedom
1393
01:03:47,453 --> 01:03:50,748
of choice to print
what we wanna print
1394
01:03:50,914 --> 01:03:52,750
we have freedom
of choice to think
1395
01:03:52,916 --> 01:03:55,002
what we wanna
think, but we do not
1396
01:03:55,127 --> 01:03:57,963
have freedom of choice
for our own healthcare,
1397
01:03:58,088 --> 01:04:00,924
Why, I guess profit
and politics and power,
1398
01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:05,179
The MDs and nutritionists
and all people
1399
01:04:05,304 --> 01:04:08,140
need to work together
for the total benefit
1400
01:04:08,265 --> 01:04:09,850
of this country's health,
1401
01:04:09,975 --> 01:04:12,728
So in 1992, we did
the most brilliant
1402
01:04:12,853 --> 01:04:14,772
thing we've ever
done as a country,
1403
01:04:14,897 --> 01:04:18,025
We started the food pyramid,
1404
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:22,071
Now, this is so ridiculous
that I can't even
1405
01:04:22,196 --> 01:04:24,865
ever remember--
because in my own mind
1406
01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:27,159
it makes no sense,
I always have to
1407
01:04:27,284 --> 01:04:29,203
read it off of a piece of paper,
1408
01:04:29,328 --> 01:04:32,373
The pyramid at the base,
the biggest part
1409
01:04:32,498 --> 01:04:34,917
was bread, cereal and rice, six
1410
01:04:35,042 --> 01:04:37,628
to eleven servings,
not per week,
1411
01:04:37,753 --> 01:04:39,129
hang on folks, per day!
1412
01:04:39,254 --> 01:04:40,881
If you went to the
maximum vegetables,
1413
01:04:41,006 --> 01:04:42,383
that's five vegetables a day,
1414
01:04:42,508 --> 01:04:45,010
Five servings, and
fruit, if you went
1415
01:04:45,135 --> 01:04:47,805
to the max, that's four,
that's 20 servings
1416
01:04:47,971 --> 01:04:49,973
of carbohydrates
every day and then
1417
01:04:50,099 --> 01:04:51,892
when you get into
milk and dairy,
1418
01:04:52,017 --> 01:04:54,770
milk has carbohydrates,
there's lactose in milk
1419
01:04:54,895 --> 01:04:56,480
that's like drinking sugar,
and on meat?
1420
01:04:56,605 --> 01:04:59,149
The most you can have
in any given day
1421
01:04:59,274 --> 01:05:02,486
is three servings,
Now it gets even worse
1422
01:05:02,611 --> 01:05:04,154
because we start wondering this,
1423
01:05:04,279 --> 01:05:07,116
what's a serving, what's
a serving of meat?
1424
01:05:07,241 --> 01:05:08,742
They didn't tell you
how many ounces,
1425
01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:10,994
Well I could tell you
it was two to three
1426
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,330
ounces per serving,
but who knew that?
1427
01:05:13,455 --> 01:05:14,832
[Timon] You got to
eat the right stuff.
1428
01:05:14,957 --> 01:05:17,292
Start with a little meat,
a little dairy,
1429
01:05:17,418 --> 01:05:18,961
you got to add a bunch of fruit.
1430
01:05:19,086 --> 01:05:21,547
You have Timon and pumba
telling people
1431
01:05:21,672 --> 01:05:24,508
-to eat more grains!
- Bread, cereal, rice,
1432
01:05:24,633 --> 01:05:27,428
-noodles.
- And eat a whole lot less fat
1433
01:05:27,553 --> 01:05:29,346
and if you thought
that was ridiculous,
1434
01:05:29,471 --> 01:05:31,557
the servings ad they did give us
1435
01:05:31,682 --> 01:05:34,268
with the food pyramid
did not match
1436
01:05:34,393 --> 01:05:37,020
what the Government told us
that servings should be
1437
01:05:37,146 --> 01:05:39,565
on the packages of food,
those servings,
1438
01:05:39,690 --> 01:05:41,316
which are also mandated
by the Government,
1439
01:05:41,442 --> 01:05:44,319
were completely different
from the servings
1440
01:05:44,445 --> 01:05:46,697
that we heard about
when it came to
1441
01:05:46,822 --> 01:05:48,782
what was on the pyramid,
1442
01:05:48,907 --> 01:05:54,663
The new food label represents
nothing less than a major
victory for the consumer
1443
01:05:54,788 --> 01:05:56,832
and for the public health,
1444
01:05:56,957 --> 01:05:58,375
[man]
When you're given a percentage
1445
01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:02,004
and you see that this
is 50% or this is 10%
1446
01:06:02,129 --> 01:06:04,047
of your expected daily total
1447
01:06:04,173 --> 01:06:06,133
then you know very
quickly that this food
1448
01:06:06,258 --> 01:06:07,759
either contributes a lot of fat
1449
01:06:07,885 --> 01:06:10,053
or a little bit of fat
and how to plan
1450
01:06:10,179 --> 01:06:12,139
the rest of your diet
around this particular food,
1451
01:06:12,264 --> 01:06:16,018
This food label which
will be on virtually
1452
01:06:16,143 --> 01:06:20,063
all foods, will be a
benchmark for nutrition
1453
01:06:20,189 --> 01:06:24,401
information well into
the 21st century,
1454
01:06:24,526 --> 01:06:26,737
[Vinnie] The Government makes
the manufacturers
1455
01:06:26,862 --> 01:06:29,990
put the product ingredient
list and the amount
1456
01:06:30,115 --> 01:06:34,161
in which it appears on the
package, If the number one
thing is grains,
1457
01:06:34,286 --> 01:06:38,248
you will rice first, if
the second thing is sugar
you will see sugar second,
1458
01:06:38,373 --> 01:06:40,459
These companies got
really smart at some point
1459
01:06:40,584 --> 01:06:42,211
and figured out
hey, wait a minute
1460
01:06:42,336 --> 01:06:44,129
we can't do it this
way because people
1461
01:06:44,254 --> 01:06:47,049
are seeing sugar,
sugar, sugar, sugar,
1462
01:06:47,174 --> 01:06:50,469
so what they do is they name
the sugars other things,
1463
01:06:50,594 --> 01:06:54,139
At last count, we
were at 70 names,
1464
01:06:54,264 --> 01:06:57,184
70 different names
for sugar on packages,
1465
01:07:00,979 --> 01:07:03,065
Let's say you're
diabetic, Type 1, Type 2
1466
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:05,234
it doesn't matter,
if you don't know how
1467
01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:09,238
to read these labels, your
life hangs in the balance,
1468
01:07:09,363 --> 01:07:11,657
This is the world
we live in, this is
1469
01:07:11,782 --> 01:07:13,951
our society, this
is our community
1470
01:07:14,076 --> 01:07:16,870
and if we don't fix it,
who will? No one will,
1471
01:07:16,995 --> 01:07:20,165
The food label has become
a veritable minefield
1472
01:07:20,290 --> 01:07:22,084
of misleading and
downright false claims,
1473
01:07:22,751 --> 01:07:24,628
And many in Congress
feel the same way
1474
01:07:24,753 --> 01:07:25,963
they're concerned
that any confusion
1475
01:07:26,129 --> 01:07:27,673
over the truthfulness
of health claims
1476
01:07:27,798 --> 01:07:29,967
could be dangerous because
the potential benefit
1477
01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:31,802
of displaying important
health information
1478
01:07:31,927 --> 01:07:34,096
on food labels would
be lost if consumers
1479
01:07:34,221 --> 01:07:35,889
lose confidence in what
they're being told,
1480
01:07:36,014 --> 01:07:37,891
When I was a kid
in the late 70s,
1481
01:07:38,016 --> 01:07:42,312
the term metabolic syndrome
did not exist at all,
1482
01:07:42,437 --> 01:07:44,815
Metabolic syndrome
is not one thing
1483
01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:47,818
it's several things,
it's fatty liver disease
1484
01:07:47,943 --> 01:07:49,861
it's Type 2 diabetes,
something else
1485
01:07:49,987 --> 01:07:52,823
that barely existed in
the 70s, we have people
1486
01:07:52,948 --> 01:07:55,534
on statins and
metformin, none of this
1487
01:07:55,659 --> 01:07:58,870
existed in this quantity
in the 70s,
1488
01:07:58,996 --> 01:08:02,457
We've gone from here to here
in just a few short years,
1489
01:08:02,583 --> 01:08:05,127
So the same foods in
my mother's generation
1490
01:08:05,252 --> 01:08:08,005
grew up believing would
go right to their hips,
1491
01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:10,799
You know, by the 1980s,
we were being told
1492
01:08:10,924 --> 01:08:13,260
to eat six to eleven
servings per day
1493
01:08:13,385 --> 01:08:15,262
they were the base of
the food diet pyramid
1494
01:08:15,387 --> 01:08:19,141
in the 1990s and they coincided
with this obesity epidemic,
1495
01:08:25,981 --> 01:08:27,232
I mean we couldn't
have screwed up
1496
01:08:27,357 --> 01:08:29,484
the science of obesity more
if we had tried,
1497
01:08:30,611 --> 01:08:31,987
We don't know what to do,
1498
01:08:32,112 --> 01:08:33,572
Nutrition experts,
the establishment,
1499
01:08:33,697 --> 01:08:35,866
the orthodoxy, just
doesn't know what to do
1500
01:08:35,991 --> 01:08:37,117
so they continue raising money
1501
01:08:37,242 --> 01:08:38,493
for the American
Heart Association,
1502
01:08:38,619 --> 01:08:39,786
the American
Diabetes Association,
1503
01:08:39,911 --> 01:08:41,538
but they don't
have any new ideas,
1504
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,292
They keep saying just keep
applying the advice
that we've given you
1505
01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:48,003
and somehow, it'll turn out
different this time,
1506
01:08:48,128 --> 01:08:49,880
One of the things
that I always say is
1507
01:08:50,005 --> 01:08:51,923
why not just be
open to new ideas?
1508
01:08:52,049 --> 01:08:54,051
Like, here's some other
ideas coming along
1509
01:08:54,176 --> 01:08:55,802
let's just consider them,
Don't we have
1510
01:08:55,927 --> 01:08:58,263
an obligation to the
public to consider
1511
01:08:58,388 --> 01:08:59,723
at least, other ideas?
1512
01:09:01,391 --> 01:09:05,228
[reporter] You're about to meet
a father who refused to give up,
a man who defied
1513
01:09:05,354 --> 01:09:07,564
the doctors and went
looking for a miracle.
1514
01:09:07,689 --> 01:09:10,567
[Vinnie] My generation remembers
Jim Abrahams quite well,
1515
01:09:10,692 --> 01:09:12,611
He did some of our
favorite movies
1516
01:09:12,736 --> 01:09:15,030
like Airplane! and
Hot Shots! and all
1517
01:09:15,155 --> 01:09:17,074
of these funny movies
in the 70s and 80s,
1518
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,410
Well it wasn't very
funny when Jim Abrahams
1519
01:09:20,535 --> 01:09:24,790
had a 16 month old son
who was having
1520
01:09:24,915 --> 01:09:27,292
seizure after
seizure after seizure
1521
01:09:27,417 --> 01:09:30,253
and he was going-- because he
was a big producer
1522
01:09:30,379 --> 01:09:32,381
and he had the means,
he went to the top
1523
01:09:32,506 --> 01:09:33,965
doctors In the United States,
1524
01:09:34,091 --> 01:09:36,343
And at the time,
Charlie was averaging
1525
01:09:36,468 --> 01:09:38,512
about a dozen seizures a day,
1526
01:09:38,637 --> 01:09:42,015
He was on four
anti-epileptic medicines,
1527
01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:44,267
If you have a
critically ill kid,
1528
01:09:44,393 --> 01:09:47,854
what would your choice be?
1529
01:09:47,979 --> 01:09:51,817
Do you wanna drug him, do
you wanna cut his brain
1530
01:09:51,942 --> 01:09:53,944
or do you wanna
change what he eats?
1531
01:09:54,069 --> 01:09:55,612
And it just seems obvious to me,
1532
01:09:55,737 --> 01:09:57,239
This is not to blame doctors,
1533
01:09:57,364 --> 01:10:00,367
Doctors are spread
really thin and they have
1534
01:10:00,492 --> 01:10:01,993
to try to do the best they can,
1535
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:04,496
but it was Jim who
figured out on his own
1536
01:10:04,621 --> 01:10:08,125
by going to a library
in the hospital
1537
01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:10,127
and just happened to open a book
1538
01:10:10,252 --> 01:10:13,922
to a page that showed
the ketogenic diet
1539
01:10:14,047 --> 01:10:17,092
as being the best way to deal
with seizures in infants,
1540
01:10:17,217 --> 01:10:18,760
The book claimed
that experts here
1541
01:10:18,885 --> 01:10:21,054
in Baltimore were
perfecting something called
1542
01:10:21,179 --> 01:10:24,266
the ketogenic diet,
a diet consisting
1543
01:10:24,391 --> 01:10:26,059
largely of something
most doctors
1544
01:10:26,184 --> 01:10:28,478
-tell us to avoid,
- I called Dr, Freeman
1545
01:10:28,603 --> 01:10:30,981
from Johns Hopkins,
told him about Charlie
1546
01:10:31,106 --> 01:10:34,067
and he said, send
his medical records,
1547
01:10:34,192 --> 01:10:37,279
we did and he said,
well bring Charlie
1548
01:10:37,404 --> 01:10:38,989
out to Hopkins and
we'll try the diet
1549
01:10:39,114 --> 01:10:42,159
and we started the diet
and in two days
1550
01:10:42,325 --> 01:10:43,201
his seizures were gone,
1551
01:10:44,202 --> 01:10:46,288
-[interviewer] Two days?
- Two days,
1552
01:10:46,413 --> 01:10:49,332
[reporter] Jim was angry
and puzzled that none
1553
01:10:49,458 --> 01:10:52,961
of the six doctors
he went to for help
ever mentioned the diet,
1554
01:10:53,086 --> 01:10:54,838
What has stopped
Charlie's seizures
1555
01:10:54,963 --> 01:10:57,132
has been in existence
for 70 years,
1556
01:10:57,257 --> 01:10:59,760
it's been sitting there,
it was waiting for him,
1557
01:10:59,885 --> 01:11:02,637
You had some knowledge
that this diet
1558
01:11:02,763 --> 01:11:05,390
was probably working
back at Johns Hopkins
1559
01:11:05,515 --> 01:11:09,770
and yet you dissuaded
the Abrahams from attempting it,
How come?
1560
01:11:09,895 --> 01:11:14,608
Well, because I don't think we
had exhausted all of the medical
approaches yet,
1561
01:11:14,733 --> 01:11:20,197
Uh,,, There were actually
still other medications
that we hadn't tried yet,
1562
01:11:20,322 --> 01:11:22,491
Dr, Freeman tells us
that 50 to 70%
1563
01:11:22,616 --> 01:11:24,201
of the patients that
come through his doors
1564
01:11:24,367 --> 01:11:27,078
and get put on a diet
have success,
1565
01:11:27,579 --> 01:11:30,957
Can you think of any drugs
in these hard cases
1566
01:11:31,082 --> 01:11:33,210
that have 50 to 70%
success rates,
1567
01:11:33,376 --> 01:11:36,505
probably not anything that
comes up to that level,
1568
01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:39,883
In another month, Dr, Freeman
weaned him off
1569
01:11:40,008 --> 01:11:43,303
all four anti-epileptic
medicines and
1570
01:11:44,596 --> 01:11:48,225
Charlie went from a
prognosis of a lifetime
1571
01:11:48,391 --> 01:11:51,853
of seizures and what they
call "progressive retardation"
1572
01:11:51,978 --> 01:11:55,190
to we got our son back
and his smile is back
1573
01:11:55,315 --> 01:11:58,777
and he was happy again,
and our family
1574
01:11:58,902 --> 01:12:00,362
could go on with life,
1575
01:12:00,487 --> 01:12:04,574
This is Charlie Abrahams
and his mom, Nancy,
1576
01:12:04,699 --> 01:12:07,202
I've known him since
birth, I watched
1577
01:12:07,327 --> 01:12:09,412
his delightful
personality emerge
1578
01:12:09,538 --> 01:12:11,790
through a normal first year,
I witnessed
1579
01:12:11,915 --> 01:12:14,251
his debilitating
battle with seizures
1580
01:12:14,417 --> 01:12:16,920
and medicines, I
rejoiced with his family
1581
01:12:17,045 --> 01:12:20,340
when the ketogenic diet
stopped his epilepsy
1582
01:12:20,465 --> 01:12:22,592
and now I derive
strength and joy
1583
01:12:22,717 --> 01:12:24,261
like so many of
his other friends
1584
01:12:24,427 --> 01:12:27,222
as we watch him begin
to develop again,
1585
01:12:27,347 --> 01:12:29,683
It's too early to tell
whether the nine months
1586
01:12:29,808 --> 01:12:32,060
of pummeling from
seizures and medicines
1587
01:12:32,185 --> 01:12:34,896
did any permanent damage
to Charlie's brain,
1588
01:12:35,021 --> 01:12:37,190
If he has anything
to say on that matter
1589
01:12:37,315 --> 01:12:40,777
I know they won't,
however, it's not too early
1590
01:12:40,902 --> 01:12:43,363
to tell that had
Charlie's parents
1591
01:12:43,488 --> 01:12:45,198
been informed about
the existence of
1592
01:12:45,323 --> 01:12:48,076
the ketogenic diet
when he first got sick,
1593
01:12:48,201 --> 01:12:50,453
and about the success
they've had with it
1594
01:12:50,579 --> 01:12:53,164
at Johns Hopkins,
a vast majority
1595
01:12:53,290 --> 01:12:55,709
of Charlie's seizures
would not have occurred,
1596
01:12:55,834 --> 01:12:59,087
And most of his $100,000
worth of medical,
1597
01:12:59,212 --> 01:13:02,549
surgical and drug treatment
would not have been necessary,
1598
01:13:02,674 --> 01:13:05,886
[solemn music]
1599
01:13:06,011 --> 01:13:11,391
Even today, 1,5 out
of every 10,000 people
1600
01:13:11,516 --> 01:13:15,770
with epilepsy who would
benefit from a ketogenic diet
1601
01:13:15,896 --> 01:13:19,316
are using it today,
Doctors are not taught
1602
01:13:19,441 --> 01:13:24,321
diet therapy or even
nutrition in medical school,
1603
01:13:24,487 --> 01:13:27,282
they just simply aren't,
Try an informal
1604
01:13:27,407 --> 01:13:29,200
survey on your own,
next time you see
1605
01:13:29,326 --> 01:13:31,328
a doctor, your
doctor, any doctor,
1606
01:13:31,494 --> 01:13:33,538
say, "When you were
in medical school,
1607
01:13:33,663 --> 01:13:37,417
how long were you, how much time
1608
01:13:37,542 --> 01:13:39,628
did you spend
investigating and learning
1609
01:13:39,753 --> 01:13:42,088
about nutrition
and diet therapy?"
1610
01:13:42,213 --> 01:13:44,883
I didn't really have
much nutritional
training like most doctors,
1611
01:13:45,008 --> 01:13:46,968
In four years of
psychiatry training,
1612
01:13:47,093 --> 01:13:48,678
we didn't talk about food once,
1613
01:13:48,803 --> 01:13:51,181
The extent of my training,
I got in nutrition,
1614
01:13:51,306 --> 01:13:54,225
let's see, year one,
two, three, four
1615
01:13:54,351 --> 01:13:55,977
then four years of
residency, zero,
1616
01:14:00,148 --> 01:14:02,651
Zero, I got zero
in addiction too,
1617
01:14:02,776 --> 01:14:04,694
Zero in nutrition,
zero in addiction,
1618
01:14:04,819 --> 01:14:07,781
We were-- we were so damn busy
taking care of sick
1619
01:14:07,906 --> 01:14:09,532
taking care of
illness and trying
1620
01:14:09,658 --> 01:14:11,493
to push that back and save lives
1621
01:14:11,618 --> 01:14:13,078
that trying to prevent illness
1622
01:14:13,203 --> 01:14:14,496
was not really on our radar,
1623
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,502
I feel anger, I'm pissed off
1624
01:14:20,627 --> 01:14:25,090
and again, I think
that part-- that the reasons
1625
01:14:25,215 --> 01:14:28,134
that the diet hasn't
become more popular
1626
01:14:28,259 --> 01:14:30,553
has nothing to do
with efficacy at all,
1627
01:14:30,679 --> 01:14:33,890
It has to do with
revenue sources
1628
01:14:34,015 --> 01:14:36,518
that are more lucrative,
The ketogenic diet
1629
01:14:36,643 --> 01:14:39,270
isn't that expensive,
the problem is
1630
01:14:39,396 --> 01:14:43,316
it doesn't generate revenue
for the medical world,
1631
01:14:43,441 --> 01:14:46,903
There are powerful
forces at work
1632
01:14:47,028 --> 01:14:50,031
in our medical system
that have nothing
1633
01:14:50,156 --> 01:14:51,116
to do with good health,
1634
01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:53,326
My patients have
been getting fatter
1635
01:14:53,451 --> 01:14:55,704
and sicker over
the last few decades
1636
01:14:55,829 --> 01:14:58,123
and in particular,
we're starting to see
1637
01:14:58,248 --> 01:15:00,583
diabetes out of control,
and that changes everything,
1638
01:15:01,710 --> 01:15:03,503
I used to see the
occasional person
1639
01:15:03,628 --> 01:15:05,588
who needed diabetic
foot ulcer management
1640
01:15:05,714 --> 01:15:09,092
and needing an amputation,
and it started becoming
virtually weekly,
1641
01:15:09,217 --> 01:15:13,638
When you come into a clinic
and there's patients
1642
01:15:13,763 --> 01:15:17,225
with, you know, rotting flesh
and it is rotting flesh
1643
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:21,312
and it smells bad, it looks bad
1644
01:15:21,438 --> 01:15:23,606
and all you're doing
is just trimming
1645
01:15:23,732 --> 01:15:26,651
off a little bit of foot,
starts with a toe,
1646
01:15:26,776 --> 01:15:29,446
starts with an ulcer,
then it moves up the foot
1647
01:15:29,571 --> 01:15:34,451
and sometimes you know,
you get to a point after
doing two or three operations
1648
01:15:34,617 --> 01:15:37,620
it's been going a couple of
months and then the decision
is you've actually
1649
01:15:37,746 --> 01:15:38,621
got to chop that leg off,
1650
01:15:39,497 --> 01:15:41,666
[sawing through bone]
1651
01:15:42,792 --> 01:15:45,003
There's something
which really upsets me
1652
01:15:45,128 --> 01:15:46,671
and that's when you
actually amputate
1653
01:15:46,796 --> 01:15:49,174
someone's limb, there's
a sound of actually
1654
01:15:49,299 --> 01:15:50,925
dropping that leg into a bucket,
1655
01:15:51,051 --> 01:15:52,302
[thump]
1656
01:15:53,553 --> 01:15:56,056
I don't want anyone to hear
that, you know, that noise,
1657
01:15:56,181 --> 01:16:00,977
it's just,,, Yeah it's just
sickening, I started talking
1658
01:16:01,102 --> 01:16:03,271
to my patients
about reducing sugar
1659
01:16:03,396 --> 01:16:05,023
and the benefits were immediate,
1660
01:16:05,148 --> 01:16:08,485
Not only would the peoples
fatty liver disease
1661
01:16:08,651 --> 01:16:11,654
get better, not only
would all of their blood
1662
01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:13,782
numbers get better, but in fact,
1663
01:16:13,907 --> 01:16:17,410
he would not have to end up
chopping off a foot or a leg,
1664
01:16:17,535 --> 01:16:20,622
I then went to the
hospital dieticians
1665
01:16:20,747 --> 01:16:22,373
and said hang on, this
is really exciting
1666
01:16:22,499 --> 01:16:25,126
this stuff about sugar,
started talking about it
1667
01:16:25,251 --> 01:16:28,630
to the staff and then
I started implementing
1668
01:16:28,755 --> 01:16:31,800
a sugar reduction
for my patients,
1669
01:16:31,925 --> 01:16:33,510
only to find out
that I was starting
1670
01:16:33,676 --> 01:16:35,011
to tread on some big toes,
1671
01:16:35,136 --> 01:16:37,764
The dieticians then
started kicking up
1672
01:16:37,889 --> 01:16:40,517
a stink about that involving
their parent organization,
1673
01:16:40,683 --> 01:16:42,769
the Dieticians
Association of Australia
1674
01:16:42,894 --> 01:16:46,773
who started becoming
involved into pressuring
1675
01:16:46,898 --> 01:16:48,525
the hospital into silencing me,
1676
01:16:48,650 --> 01:16:50,777
We received evidence in Sydney
1677
01:16:50,902 --> 01:16:53,404
from a medical
practitioner in Tasmania,
1678
01:16:53,530 --> 01:16:57,826
Dr, Gary Fettke,
he gave the evidence to
1679
01:16:57,951 --> 01:16:59,786
the Committee in the
morning of our hearing
1680
01:16:59,911 --> 01:17:03,873
in Sydney, three hours
later, he received
1681
01:17:03,998 --> 01:17:05,708
an official caution from APRA,
1682
01:17:05,834 --> 01:17:07,210
The first time I heard
this story,
1683
01:17:07,335 --> 01:17:08,503
I just thought it was a joke,
1684
01:17:08,628 --> 01:17:10,964
The Boards actual
statement requires
1685
01:17:11,089 --> 01:17:13,633
that doctors double check
that their personal beliefs
1686
01:17:13,758 --> 01:17:15,802
don't compromise care,
that they don't put
1687
01:17:15,927 --> 01:17:18,221
their commercial interest
in front of patients
1688
01:17:18,346 --> 01:17:20,223
and lastly, doctors
should provide
1689
01:17:20,348 --> 01:17:22,392
appropriate dietary advice,
1690
01:17:22,517 --> 01:17:24,769
Ultimately, the Medical
Board made a ruling
1691
01:17:24,894 --> 01:17:29,107
that I am now the only
doctor as far as we know
1692
01:17:29,232 --> 01:17:31,568
in the world to be
banned from advising
1693
01:17:31,734 --> 01:17:35,155
his patients to reduce their
sugar and junk food intake,
1694
01:17:36,531 --> 01:17:38,992
And if that sounds crazy,
then that's what it is,
1695
01:17:39,868 --> 01:17:43,746
We recognize that uh, the--
being subject
1696
01:17:43,872 --> 01:17:45,874
to the notifications
process for a practitioner
1697
01:17:45,999 --> 01:17:48,751
can be an extraordinarily
stressful, uh, thing
1698
01:17:48,877 --> 01:17:51,880
because there are pretty
serious issues at stake
1699
01:17:52,005 --> 01:17:53,506
ultimately in terms
of their practice
1700
01:17:53,631 --> 01:17:56,301
-of their profession and--
- And their reputation,
1701
01:17:56,426 --> 01:18:00,180
And their reputation
and, uh, despite the fact
1702
01:18:00,305 --> 01:18:02,223
that we are not
punitive in our focus,
1703
01:18:02,348 --> 01:18:03,683
we are protective in our focus
1704
01:18:03,808 --> 01:18:06,186
and our mandate is a
public protection focus
1705
01:18:06,311 --> 01:18:08,062
we understand and
appreciate that it may not
1706
01:18:08,188 --> 01:18:09,939
feel like that for
the practitioner
1707
01:18:10,064 --> 01:18:11,232
involved in the process,
1708
01:18:11,357 --> 01:18:12,734
For a long time, I
couldn't actually
1709
01:18:12,859 --> 01:18:14,736
work out why there
was anything actually
1710
01:18:14,861 --> 01:18:17,030
against what I
was talking about,
1711
01:18:17,155 --> 01:18:20,408
everything about reducing
sugar and carbohydrate
1712
01:18:20,533 --> 01:18:22,827
is basic biochemistry,
it's in the first
1713
01:18:22,952 --> 01:18:27,582
hundred pages of textbooks,
so there's nothing
1714
01:18:27,707 --> 01:18:30,919
extreme about it, once
you see the results
1715
01:18:31,044 --> 01:18:34,714
of reducing sugar and carbs,
particularly in diabetes,
1716
01:18:34,839 --> 01:18:36,216
you can't unsee them,
1717
01:18:36,341 --> 01:18:40,345
You know, at this point,
I think there is active
1718
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:42,347
suppression of this science,
1719
01:18:42,472 --> 01:18:44,891
and this has been
going on since the 60s,
1720
01:18:45,016 --> 01:18:46,643
One of the things I found
in my research,
1721
01:18:46,768 --> 01:18:49,437
the biggest ever test of
Ancel Keys' hypothesis
1722
01:18:49,562 --> 01:18:51,773
was something called The
Minnesota Coronary Survey
1723
01:18:51,898 --> 01:18:54,859
it was on more than nine
thousand men and women
1724
01:18:54,984 --> 01:18:59,239
in five Minnesota mental
hospitals, which was a really
well-controlled study
1725
01:18:59,364 --> 01:19:02,784
because somebody in a hospital,
you can control everything
they're eating,
1726
01:19:02,909 --> 01:19:06,955
They gave half the people what
was considered the normal
amount of saturated fat,
1727
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,583
regular milk, regular meat,
cheese, butter etcetera,
1728
01:19:10,708 --> 01:19:13,670
The other half they
gave 9% saturated fats
1729
01:19:13,836 --> 01:19:15,630
soy-filled milk,
soy-filled cheese,
1730
01:19:15,755 --> 01:19:18,466
soy-filled burgers, they
found that the people
1731
01:19:18,591 --> 01:19:21,803
on the vegetable oil,
soy-filled diets
1732
01:19:21,928 --> 01:19:24,639
there was no effect on
cardiovascular mortality
1733
01:19:24,764 --> 01:19:26,557
or total mortality, That study
1734
01:19:26,683 --> 01:19:29,394
was not published for 16 years,
1735
01:19:30,561 --> 01:19:31,854
One of the principle
investigators,
1736
01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:33,564
Ivan Frantz was
asked by a journalist
1737
01:19:33,690 --> 01:19:35,441
why did you not
publish this study?
1738
01:19:35,566 --> 01:19:37,819
He said well, there was
really nothing wrong with it
1739
01:19:37,944 --> 01:19:41,197
we were just so disappointed
in the way it came out,
1740
01:19:41,322 --> 01:19:44,867
Well that's basically
scientific fraud,
1741
01:19:44,993 --> 01:19:46,035
not publishing your results,
1742
01:19:47,829 --> 01:19:51,708
I started to ask the
question what got in the way?
1743
01:19:51,833 --> 01:19:55,044
What's withholding the message?
1744
01:19:55,169 --> 01:19:59,924
Well, there is a
pharmaceutical and medical
1745
01:20:00,049 --> 01:20:02,802
device industry
that makes billions
1746
01:20:02,927 --> 01:20:05,930
selling their
products to doctors
1747
01:20:06,055 --> 01:20:09,434
who have no interest
in diet therapy,
1748
01:20:09,559 --> 01:20:14,439
There, uh, is a sugar
industry that adds
1749
01:20:14,564 --> 01:20:17,734
sugar to all of
our processed foods
1750
01:20:17,859 --> 01:20:21,446
that has no interest in
promoting a sugar-free diet,
1751
01:20:21,571 --> 01:20:25,074
There is a cardiology
community led by
1752
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:27,535
the American Heart Association
1753
01:20:27,660 --> 01:20:31,080
that has been spreading
misinformation
1754
01:20:31,205 --> 01:20:35,126
about a high-fat diet
based on flawed science
1755
01:20:35,251 --> 01:20:37,128
for over 70 years,
1756
01:20:37,253 --> 01:20:39,130
Those diets have
been used in children
1757
01:20:39,255 --> 01:20:41,466
for many years who have epilepsy
1758
01:20:41,591 --> 01:20:43,217
and those children show definite
1759
01:20:43,343 --> 01:20:46,346
cognitive dysfunction,
also those diets,
1760
01:20:46,471 --> 01:20:48,097
Which means they don't
think as clearly,
1761
01:20:48,222 --> 01:20:49,766
- That's right,
- Those children are also
1762
01:20:49,891 --> 01:20:51,434
children who have as
many, they're intransigent
1763
01:20:51,559 --> 01:20:52,769
childhood epilepsy,
they have as many
1764
01:20:52,935 --> 01:20:55,772
as 400 seizures a month,
they're untreatable
1765
01:20:55,938 --> 01:20:58,566
by drugs, they go on
the diet, and the diets
1766
01:20:58,691 --> 01:21:01,402
I think it cures 33%
of them, cures them,
1767
01:21:01,527 --> 01:21:04,864
The epilepsy and then
they aren't able to think,
1768
01:21:04,989 --> 01:21:10,119
Today Charlie is a
elementary school teacher
1769
01:21:10,244 --> 01:21:12,789
a certificate in early
childhood education,
1770
01:21:12,955 --> 01:21:16,709
he boxes, he plays
piano, and we are
1771
01:21:17,710 --> 01:21:21,172
beyond grateful every day
for his outcome,
1772
01:21:21,297 --> 01:21:23,299
I'm not sure what
would have become of me
1773
01:21:23,424 --> 01:21:26,636
if my family hadn't
found the ketogenic diet,
1774
01:21:26,761 --> 01:21:30,348
But I doubt that today,
I would be an A student
1775
01:21:30,473 --> 01:21:32,892
in high school with
lots of friends,
1776
01:21:33,017 --> 01:21:35,311
I doubt I would have been
playing piano
1777
01:21:35,436 --> 01:21:37,021
for the last eight years
and I doubt
1778
01:21:37,146 --> 01:21:39,649
I could hit an 8 iron
a 160 yards,
1779
01:21:40,817 --> 01:21:43,069
And they just couldn't accept
that they were
dealing with these
1780
01:21:43,194 --> 01:21:45,988
intractable conditions
and not just pediatric
1781
01:21:46,114 --> 01:21:48,574
epilepsy, but obesity is
an intractable condition,
1782
01:21:48,699 --> 01:21:51,828
diabetes, Type 2 diabetes
is an intractable condition,
1783
01:21:51,953 --> 01:21:53,830
Type 1 is, and here
you have this diet
1784
01:21:53,955 --> 01:21:56,499
that appears to put these
conditions into remission,
1785
01:21:56,624 --> 01:21:59,001
The establishment here,
represented
1786
01:21:59,127 --> 01:22:01,003
by our friends, its
a little too dogmatic
1787
01:22:01,129 --> 01:22:02,839
and that we may
never know the truth
1788
01:22:02,964 --> 01:22:05,675
unless we acknowledge that
there is a counter-theory
1789
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,427
that has never been
tested and that
1790
01:22:07,552 --> 01:22:09,011
that theory more and more people
1791
01:22:09,137 --> 01:22:11,931
are beginning to accept
parts of the theory,
1792
01:22:12,056 --> 01:22:14,100
as being legitimate
and that it could
1793
01:22:14,225 --> 01:22:15,726
answer a lot of problems
and it could
1794
01:22:15,852 --> 01:22:17,520
even make it easier for
Americans to lose weight,
1795
01:22:17,645 --> 01:22:19,313
people are able to
reverse diabetes,
1796
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,732
people are able to lose
weight sustainably,
1797
01:22:21,858 --> 01:22:24,444
Most, if not all
cardiovascular risk factors
1798
01:22:24,569 --> 01:22:26,863
are improved along
the way on a lower
1799
01:22:26,988 --> 01:22:30,950
carbohydrate diet, That diet
ought to be at least considered,
1800
01:22:31,075 --> 01:22:33,077
If it turns out to be true,
I'll be the first
1801
01:22:33,202 --> 01:22:34,829
to change my mind,
but show me the data,
1802
01:22:34,954 --> 01:22:36,873
[Vinnie] Well, here's
just one study that says
1803
01:22:36,998 --> 01:22:39,333
that long term ketosis
reduces body weight,
1804
01:22:39,459 --> 01:22:42,211
triglycerides, LDL,
and blood glucose
1805
01:22:42,336 --> 01:22:44,338
and shows that it's
safe to use a long term
1806
01:22:44,464 --> 01:22:46,466
-ketogenic diet,
- You can lose weight on
1807
01:22:46,591 --> 01:22:48,092
a plant-based diet,
you can lose weight
1808
01:22:48,217 --> 01:22:50,428
on a ketogenic diet, but are you
1809
01:22:50,553 --> 01:22:51,888
mortgaging your health
when you do that,
1810
01:22:52,013 --> 01:22:53,973
and the answer is yes,
the ketogenic diet
1811
01:22:54,098 --> 01:22:56,100
when you look at the
arteries of people
1812
01:22:56,225 --> 01:22:58,436
or animals that go
on a ketogenic diet
1813
01:22:58,561 --> 01:23:00,021
they tend to be more clogged,
1814
01:23:00,146 --> 01:23:01,189
even though,,,
[music drowns out talking],
1815
01:23:03,191 --> 01:23:06,360
[Gary] Imagine someone who spent
his whole career getting the
wrong answer,
1816
01:23:06,486 --> 01:23:08,112
and not only getting the wrong
answer, getting the wrong
1817
01:23:08,237 --> 01:23:09,906
answer that dangerous,
that actually
1818
01:23:10,031 --> 01:23:12,492
may have killed
tens of thousands
1819
01:23:12,617 --> 01:23:14,410
of hundreds of
thousands of people,
1820
01:23:14,535 --> 01:23:16,078
Millions of people
prematurely, there's no
1821
01:23:16,204 --> 01:23:17,914
way to tell, then
these outsiders
1822
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,082
come along and say you're wrong,
1823
01:23:20,208 --> 01:23:23,085
not only are you wrong,
you're completely wrong
1824
01:23:23,211 --> 01:23:25,796
or not even wrong
it's so senseless
1825
01:23:25,922 --> 01:23:27,215
what you've been doing
and you're killing people
1826
01:23:27,340 --> 01:23:28,925
and you have to switch,
I don't think
1827
01:23:29,050 --> 01:23:31,427
any human being, I mean
were just not wired
1828
01:23:31,552 --> 01:23:34,514
to be able to say oh
yeah, that's a good point
1829
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:36,057
I get it, I see
what you're saying
1830
01:23:36,182 --> 01:23:39,227
and I'm sorry, And if
you're an institution
1831
01:23:39,352 --> 01:23:40,937
like the American
Heart Association,
1832
01:23:41,103 --> 01:23:43,272
I mean imagine the press release
1833
01:23:43,397 --> 01:23:45,149
you would have to write,
"Dear American public
1834
01:23:45,274 --> 01:23:47,818
we're sorry if we
killed prematurely
1835
01:23:47,944 --> 01:23:50,446
your loved ones and your parents
1836
01:23:50,571 --> 01:23:53,032
and maybe we're killing
you, but in retrospect
1837
01:23:53,157 --> 01:23:56,035
we shouldn't have given
the advice we did,"
1838
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,872
-[somber music]
- You know, we think
1839
01:23:59,997 --> 01:24:02,875
about corporations are--
our Government
1840
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,963
which is a corporation,
and the first question is
1841
01:24:07,129 --> 01:24:09,966
do we blame them?
Well, you can't hurt
1842
01:24:10,091 --> 01:24:12,134
the Government's feelings,
you can't hurt
1843
01:24:12,260 --> 01:24:13,970
the corporations'
feeling because
1844
01:24:14,095 --> 01:24:16,639
corporations and
governments are not people,
1845
01:24:17,431 --> 01:24:20,184
They're machines, they're
just big giant machines
1846
01:24:20,309 --> 01:24:23,646
and any person in that
machine is just a cog
1847
01:24:23,771 --> 01:24:25,523
and there's no way to
hurt anyone's feelings
1848
01:24:25,648 --> 01:24:27,608
or to get on anyone's bad side,
1849
01:24:27,733 --> 01:24:29,318
It's just a machine
that keeps running,
1850
01:24:31,571 --> 01:24:34,907
[Dwight D, Eisenhower]
Decisions of a nation,
and of a Government
1851
01:24:35,032 --> 01:24:38,119
that at one time could tolerate
1852
01:24:38,244 --> 01:24:41,747
three or four weeks
of study, now demand
1853
01:24:41,872 --> 01:24:45,376
almost instantaneous a reaction,
1854
01:24:45,501 --> 01:24:47,003
The people of the United States
1855
01:24:47,128 --> 01:24:51,632
recognize one by one,
thousand by thousand,
1856
01:24:51,757 --> 01:24:54,010
million by million
that this I a problem
1857
01:24:54,176 --> 01:24:56,596
which solution is long overdue,
1858
01:24:56,721 --> 01:24:59,432
[Lyndon B. Johnson]
Long before Lyndon Johnson
came into position
1859
01:24:59,557 --> 01:25:02,101
of power, our leaders
were recommending
1860
01:25:02,226 --> 01:25:06,022
great advances in the
field of civil rights
1861
01:25:06,147 --> 01:25:07,898
and great advances in
the field of health
1862
01:25:08,024 --> 01:25:09,609
and things of that nature,
1863
01:25:09,734 --> 01:25:12,653
Uh, I just happened to
be the catalyst,
1864
01:25:12,778 --> 01:25:15,364
We're living in a fast age
and all of us
1865
01:25:15,489 --> 01:25:17,033
are rather impatient,
1866
01:25:17,158 --> 01:25:20,036
I am proposing today a new
national health strategy,
1867
01:25:20,202 --> 01:25:23,122
Emphasizes keeping people well,
1868
01:25:23,247 --> 01:25:25,374
not just making people well,
1869
01:25:25,499 --> 01:25:28,044
I do envision the
day when we may use
1870
01:25:28,169 --> 01:25:30,254
the private health
insurance system,
1871
01:25:30,379 --> 01:25:33,633
to offer more middle
income families
1872
01:25:33,758 --> 01:25:37,053
high quality health services
at prices they can afford
1873
01:25:37,219 --> 01:25:41,557
and shield them also from
their catastrophic illnesses,
1874
01:25:41,682 --> 01:25:44,352
Today I'm proposing
to the Congress
1875
01:25:44,477 --> 01:25:48,356
a national health plan,
this major initiative
1876
01:25:48,481 --> 01:25:50,399
will meet the most urgent needs
1877
01:25:50,524 --> 01:25:52,526
in health care of
the American people,
1878
01:25:52,652 --> 01:25:54,945
Our Administration will
propose to Congress
1879
01:25:55,071 --> 01:25:58,407
a comprehensive plan to
cover catastrophic illnesses,
1880
01:25:58,532 --> 01:26:01,077
I am proud to have been
part of an Administration
1881
01:26:01,202 --> 01:26:03,829
that passed the first
Catastrophic Health Bill,
1882
01:26:03,954 --> 01:26:05,414
Whatever form it takes,
1883
01:26:05,539 --> 01:26:07,792
a catastrophic
illness costs money,
1884
01:26:07,917 --> 01:26:09,877
[Bill Clinton]
There are some little
known but very important
1885
01:26:10,002 --> 01:26:12,213
provisions in this
new balanced budget
1886
01:26:12,338 --> 01:26:15,091
that will take us
a tremendous step
1887
01:26:15,216 --> 01:26:17,843
forward in our fight
against diabetes,
1888
01:26:17,968 --> 01:26:20,179
These investments
total more than
1889
01:26:20,304 --> 01:26:23,099
two billion dollars over
the next five years,
1890
01:26:23,224 --> 01:26:25,768
We must remember that the
best health care decisions
1891
01:26:25,893 --> 01:26:29,188
are not made by Government
and insurance companies
1892
01:26:29,313 --> 01:26:31,524
but by patients
and their doctors,
1893
01:26:31,649 --> 01:26:33,109
[audience applauds]
1894
01:26:33,234 --> 01:26:34,610
[Barack Obama]
Because you're eating healthy,
1895
01:26:34,735 --> 01:26:36,529
and you're out there
active and you're playing
1896
01:26:36,654 --> 01:26:38,114
sports and you're
out in the playground
1897
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,701
and doing all those
things, not only
1898
01:26:41,826 --> 01:26:44,704
are you gonna have
a better life,
1899
01:26:44,829 --> 01:26:46,956
but you're also
helping to create
1900
01:26:47,081 --> 01:26:48,499
a stronger, healthier America,
1901
01:26:48,624 --> 01:26:50,251
and that saves us money,
it means people
1902
01:26:50,376 --> 01:26:52,712
are not sick as much,
it means that
1903
01:26:52,837 --> 01:26:55,005
our health care costs go down,
1904
01:26:55,131 --> 01:26:58,134
When you roll up at a McDonalds,
what does Donald Trump order?
1905
01:26:58,300 --> 01:27:01,470
A Fish-O-Filet sometimes, right,
1906
01:27:01,595 --> 01:27:04,682
The Big Macs are great, the
Quarter pounder with cheese,
I mean there's great stuff,
1907
01:27:04,807 --> 01:27:06,934
Do people at the windows
be like, "What?"
1908
01:27:07,059 --> 01:27:08,352
I think all of those
places, Burger King
1909
01:27:08,477 --> 01:27:10,396
McDonalds, I can live with them,
1910
01:27:10,521 --> 01:27:12,314
I had the other night, I
had Kentucky Fried Chicken,
1911
01:27:12,440 --> 01:27:13,816
not the worst thing
in the world,
1912
01:27:14,442 --> 01:27:16,110
If you think it's up to
Government, you're wrong,
1913
01:27:16,235 --> 01:27:17,945
if you think
it's up to industry,
1914
01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:20,239
you're wrong, it's up to
you, And if you're gonna
1915
01:27:20,364 --> 01:27:22,450
make a change, if
you're watching this,
1916
01:27:22,575 --> 01:27:24,869
change right now,
tonight, don't wait
1917
01:27:24,994 --> 01:27:27,163
until tomorrow, if
it's a Friday night
1918
01:27:27,329 --> 01:27:29,248
don't say Monday
you're gonna start,
1919
01:27:29,373 --> 01:27:32,168
start now, there's no
time better than right now
1920
01:27:32,293 --> 01:27:34,170
to get your life in order,
1921
01:27:34,295 --> 01:27:35,671
[dramatic music]
1922
01:28:04,742 --> 01:28:07,203
[somber music]
1923
01:29:25,906 --> 01:29:29,743
I've been doing a
podcast with Anna Vocino
for about seven years,
1924
01:29:29,869 --> 01:29:33,622
When we first started
the podcast, uh,
nobody was listening,
1925
01:29:33,747 --> 01:29:35,791
Someone's gone, alright,
I wanna lose weight
1926
01:29:35,916 --> 01:29:38,252
wait, that steak
is 1200 calories,
1927
01:29:39,169 --> 01:29:42,006
This bowl of pasta
is 500 calories less?
1928
01:29:42,131 --> 01:29:44,300
And, as a woman, you're told
1929
01:29:44,425 --> 01:29:46,260
don't eat more than
1200 calories a day
1930
01:29:46,385 --> 01:29:48,304
if you wanna lose weight,
so you think
1931
01:29:48,429 --> 01:29:50,681
oh, I can't have that steak,
because that's my whole day!
1932
01:29:50,806 --> 01:29:52,433
We started attracting
the attention
1933
01:29:52,558 --> 01:29:54,518
of people in the
low carb community,
1934
01:29:54,643 --> 01:29:57,146
doctors, authors,
like Gary Taubes
1935
01:29:57,271 --> 01:29:59,273
and Nina Teicholz,
it's important for us
1936
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to have the experts on,
'cause we're like see
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what that guy said [laughs],
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Anna also, turns out,
is a great cook,
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[Anna] As a person who works
with food a lot,
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I get asked many questions about
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fake sweeteners or
fake this or fake that
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and I personally think
it's gonna have to
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go in an even more
natural direction
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to where we just have
this return to just
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eating food in its
most natural state,
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Vinnie and I are very passionate
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about this topic,
let's say you watched
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this documentary,
let's say you watched
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the others and you're
like, this is it,
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I'm gonna do this,
I am going to give up
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the processed sugars and grains
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and I'm gonna go for a
high-fat, low-carb diet
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and which you should,
do it, try it,
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It can't hurt to not
have sugars and grains,
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Like just try it,
When that happens
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and there's an adjustment phase,
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all of us in this country,
myself included,
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have been in the diet mentality,
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If we can peel back
that diet mentality,
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it would be amazing,
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