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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:22,276 --> 00:00:25,238 They were all in agreement about what 4 00:00:25,363 --> 00:00:27,532 we could do for Charlie, what the treatment 5 00:00:27,657 --> 00:00:30,576 options were, there was drugs, 6 00:00:30,701 --> 00:00:33,538 and there was brain surgery 7 00:00:33,663 --> 00:00:36,457 and you're out of luck, and so, 8 00:00:41,254 --> 00:00:42,630 It was a while ago but [chokes], 9 00:00:45,508 --> 00:00:50,096 So Charlie was born March 11th, 1992, 10 00:00:50,221 --> 00:00:53,766 and he had a pretty normal first year 11 00:00:53,891 --> 00:00:57,562 and then right around his first birthday a little before his first birthday 12 00:00:57,687 --> 00:01:00,856 I was actually pushing him in a swing one day 13 00:01:00,982 --> 00:01:03,985 and he kind of threw his arm up in the air 14 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:06,070 and twitched his head a little bit 15 00:01:06,195 --> 00:01:08,239 and I didn't even think much of it 16 00:01:08,364 --> 00:01:10,533 and I asked my wife Nancy, I said, 17 00:01:10,658 --> 00:01:12,952 have you seen anything like that 18 00:01:13,077 --> 00:01:14,704 and she said yeah, I've seen a bunch of it, 19 00:01:14,829 --> 00:01:18,749 So that was the beginning and we 20 00:01:18,874 --> 00:01:20,501 started seeing neurologists, 21 00:01:21,544 --> 00:01:23,337 [woman] Okay, Charlie, okay, 22 00:01:25,172 --> 00:01:28,009 [Matt] The seizures increased in intensity 23 00:01:28,175 --> 00:01:32,096 and in duration, he wound up having seizures 24 00:01:32,221 --> 00:01:34,974 in the arms of the Chief of pediatric Neurology 25 00:01:35,099 --> 00:01:37,685 at Boston Children's Hospital, Seattle 26 00:01:37,810 --> 00:01:41,314 Children's Hospital, UCLA, LA Children's Hospital 27 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:45,026 so we tried all the drugs that were available 28 00:01:45,192 --> 00:01:49,322 at the time, Charlie had a brain surgery 29 00:01:49,447 --> 00:01:52,366 a horrendous brain surgery and nothing 30 00:01:52,491 --> 00:01:57,038 really stopped his seizures and we lost hope 31 00:01:57,204 --> 00:01:59,915 we were basically told there was no hope, 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,294 And one day after the visit, I stopped 33 00:02:03,419 --> 00:02:08,341 at the Medical Library, As soon as I started researching 34 00:02:09,842 --> 00:02:12,762 pediatric epilepsy, one of the first things 35 00:02:12,887 --> 00:02:16,057 that came up was a ketogenic diet 36 00:02:17,183 --> 00:02:20,061 and was kinda shocking to me because 37 00:02:20,186 --> 00:02:23,522 what it said was, uh, that about a third 38 00:02:23,648 --> 00:02:27,068 of the kids with epilepsy as bad as Charlie 39 00:02:28,277 --> 00:02:30,237 um, who go on a ketogenic diet have 40 00:02:30,363 --> 00:02:33,032 their seizures go away, and another third 41 00:02:33,157 --> 00:02:35,242 are significantly improved, and for a third 42 00:02:35,368 --> 00:02:38,663 it doesn't work, and yet all of these folks 43 00:02:38,788 --> 00:02:40,456 that we had taken Charlie to see 44 00:02:40,581 --> 00:02:43,668 never mentioned a word about diet, 45 00:02:45,586 --> 00:02:50,716 [Vinnie] Nutrition information can be so confusing and as advanced as we are medically 46 00:02:50,841 --> 00:02:54,637 and scientifically, the question remains what foods should we eat to achieve good health? 47 00:02:55,846 --> 00:02:58,391 [dramatic music] 48 00:03:09,318 --> 00:03:11,112 [Vinnie] We're in a war for information 49 00:03:11,237 --> 00:03:13,072 and the fallout affects all of us, 50 00:03:13,197 --> 00:03:14,240 [trumpets blare] 51 00:03:14,365 --> 00:03:15,783 The media's just gonna sell what 52 00:03:15,908 --> 00:03:17,576 people are gonna buy and if people 53 00:03:17,702 --> 00:03:20,121 knew the truth, they would know what to ask for, 54 00:03:21,580 --> 00:03:23,124 My name is Vinnie Tortorich and I've been 55 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:24,458 in the health and fitness game 56 00:03:24,583 --> 00:03:26,460 for the better part of 40 years, 57 00:03:26,585 --> 00:03:28,421 specializing in weight loss, 58 00:03:28,546 --> 00:03:31,382 Over the years, I've seen everything come and go 59 00:03:31,507 --> 00:03:34,468 at least a hundred times, but as a country, 60 00:03:34,593 --> 00:03:36,595 we've only gotten fatter, 61 00:03:37,471 --> 00:03:39,390 What should I eat, what pills should I take, 62 00:03:39,515 --> 00:03:42,935 should I take a pill, what about those protein shakes? 63 00:03:43,060 --> 00:03:44,645 We all know someone who's trying to lose weight 64 00:03:44,770 --> 00:03:46,355 and most of those people don't realize 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,024 simply losing weight doesn't mean good health, 66 00:03:49,150 --> 00:03:51,110 My mother, for instance, she was always 67 00:03:51,235 --> 00:03:53,779 on some diet, one week it was the Cambridge Diet 68 00:03:53,904 --> 00:03:55,614 the next week it was the Scarsdale diet, 69 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:57,825 the next week it was the Cabbage Soup diet, 70 00:03:57,950 --> 00:03:59,326 But wait a minute, the next week 71 00:03:59,452 --> 00:04:00,494 she ate nothing but bananas, 72 00:04:00,619 --> 00:04:01,996 Where did that come from? 73 00:04:02,121 --> 00:04:04,373 I always wonder about things like eight, 74 00:04:04,498 --> 00:04:06,167 eight ounce glasses of water per day, 75 00:04:06,751 --> 00:04:08,419 Really, where did that come from? 76 00:04:09,086 --> 00:04:10,963 High blood pressure, your doctor will say 77 00:04:11,088 --> 00:04:12,298 oh, you have high blood pressure, 78 00:04:12,423 --> 00:04:14,550 stop drinking coffee, really? 79 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:16,594 These are all just myths, 80 00:04:16,719 --> 00:04:18,053 [dramatic music] 81 00:04:18,179 --> 00:04:20,389 The myths have become ingrained 82 00:04:20,514 --> 00:04:22,391 in our society far too strongly 83 00:04:22,516 --> 00:04:24,310 for people to realize they're myths, 84 00:04:24,435 --> 00:04:26,771 [Vinnie] What are some of the health myths we hear every day? 85 00:04:26,896 --> 00:04:29,106 Grains are good for you and fat is bad for you, 86 00:04:29,231 --> 00:04:31,525 Obesity is an energy balance disorder, 87 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:33,277 Calorie in, calorie out, 88 00:04:33,402 --> 00:04:34,695 Calories in, calories out 89 00:04:34,820 --> 00:04:36,530 as long as you're burning enough calories, 90 00:04:36,655 --> 00:04:38,324 you can ingest whatever you want, 91 00:04:39,575 --> 00:04:41,994 That you have to exercise to have better health, 92 00:04:42,119 --> 00:04:44,789 Saturated fat is the cause of heart disease, 93 00:04:44,914 --> 00:04:46,832 A low fat diet is a healthy diet, 94 00:04:46,957 --> 00:04:48,876 We saw fat in the coronary arteries 95 00:04:49,001 --> 00:04:51,003 and that must come from ingested fat, 96 00:04:51,128 --> 00:04:53,380 [overlapping chatter] 97 00:04:53,506 --> 00:04:55,424 A growing number of doctors are learning 98 00:04:55,549 --> 00:04:59,178 that almost everything we're taught about nutrition is wrong, 99 00:04:59,303 --> 00:05:02,389 And I realize there was this incredible story 100 00:05:02,515 --> 00:05:04,433 that we had gotten it pretty much 101 00:05:04,558 --> 00:05:07,061 completely upside down and backward on fat, 102 00:05:07,186 --> 00:05:10,564 [Vinnie] Believe it or not, the story of how we got to where we are today, started in 103 00:05:10,689 --> 00:05:13,734 the 1860s, with the Seventh-day Adventist Church 104 00:05:13,859 --> 00:05:15,820 and a woman named Ellen White, 105 00:05:17,446 --> 00:05:20,115 Ellen was a higher up in the church 106 00:05:20,241 --> 00:05:21,951 and she would have these premonitions 107 00:05:22,076 --> 00:05:25,246 and one night she had a dream, that God came to her 108 00:05:25,412 --> 00:05:27,081 and said that we shouldn't eat anything 109 00:05:27,206 --> 00:05:30,835 -with a face, - I was taken to another place 110 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,254 high above this world and I 111 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:35,256 I-- I heard a voice, 112 00:05:37,383 --> 00:05:40,469 There started modern-day veganism, 113 00:05:40,594 --> 00:05:43,347 It really didn't exist before then, there were other religious groups 114 00:05:43,472 --> 00:05:46,225 who were more vegetarian, they would eat eggs 115 00:05:46,350 --> 00:05:47,768 and dairy and so on and so forth 116 00:05:47,893 --> 00:05:50,813 and as a matter of fact, God also told her 117 00:05:50,938 --> 00:05:54,483 that coffee and tea were bad, which made no sense 118 00:05:54,608 --> 00:05:58,779 because both of those are vegetation, 119 00:05:59,864 --> 00:06:01,615 Not long after in our history, there was 120 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:04,034 a man named Vilhjalmur Stefansson, 121 00:06:04,159 --> 00:06:05,911 He also believed, to a certain extent 122 00:06:06,036 --> 00:06:08,289 that a vegetable heavy diet was mandatory 123 00:06:08,414 --> 00:06:10,833 for good health, he was an explorer 124 00:06:10,958 --> 00:06:15,629 who ended up living with Inuits in Canada in 1906 and in that time and place 125 00:06:15,754 --> 00:06:19,216 he was forced to adopt a new diet due to the lack of options, 126 00:06:19,341 --> 00:06:22,219 He made a discovery that will change the way you look at food, 127 00:06:22,344 --> 00:06:26,223 Now this raises the whole question of food, then, 128 00:06:26,348 --> 00:06:28,893 You yourself must have longed for a green 129 00:06:29,018 --> 00:06:31,145 -vegetable once in a while, - Well, I did at first, 130 00:06:31,270 --> 00:06:33,898 At first his preconceived notion is 131 00:06:34,023 --> 00:06:36,817 I'm gonna die, there is nothing green here, 132 00:06:36,942 --> 00:06:39,320 There is no vegetation, they simply 133 00:06:39,445 --> 00:06:41,447 eat fish and drink water, 134 00:06:41,572 --> 00:06:44,074 [Nina] It was unlike anything that he'd experienced, right? 135 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:46,035 Completely unlike the Western diet, 136 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,247 it was probably 70 to 80% fat, the Inuit lived 137 00:06:50,372 --> 00:06:52,291 half the year on caribou [gunshot] 138 00:06:52,416 --> 00:06:54,585 And half the year on whatever they could fish out of the sea, 139 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:58,756 For four and a half months, I lived on literally nothing but fish and water 140 00:06:58,881 --> 00:07:02,551 and at the end of four and a half months, I was healthier than I'd ever been before, 141 00:07:02,676 --> 00:07:04,637 And this is on an exclusive meat diet? 142 00:07:04,762 --> 00:07:06,680 [Stefansson] That was exclusive fish in this case, 143 00:07:06,805 --> 00:07:09,224 On this diet, they were perfectly healthy, 144 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:10,976 I mean, Stefansson was somebody from 145 00:07:11,101 --> 00:07:13,354 the medical world and he knew what cancer 146 00:07:13,479 --> 00:07:15,230 looked like, he knew what heart disease looked like 147 00:07:15,356 --> 00:07:17,107 and he did not see anyone suffering 148 00:07:17,232 --> 00:07:18,442 from ill health in that community, 149 00:07:18,567 --> 00:07:19,944 When he came back to the United States, 150 00:07:20,069 --> 00:07:21,737 no one believed him, of course, 151 00:07:21,862 --> 00:07:24,073 what, people eating nothing but meat and fat, 152 00:07:24,198 --> 00:07:25,574 how could that be, they certainly would die, 153 00:07:25,699 --> 00:07:28,369 [narrator] Dr, Charles Norris, Chief Medical Examiner 154 00:07:28,494 --> 00:07:30,788 does not approve of an all meat diet, 155 00:07:42,341 --> 00:07:44,468 We have a weakness of not learning 156 00:07:44,593 --> 00:07:47,012 from the natives, but rather teaching them, 157 00:07:47,137 --> 00:07:50,099 You see everything through the colored spectacles 158 00:07:50,224 --> 00:07:52,309 of your education, your bringing up, 159 00:07:52,434 --> 00:07:56,480 We go through this whole idea of green good 160 00:07:56,605 --> 00:08:00,192 red bad, Greenpeace, a light turns green 161 00:08:00,317 --> 00:08:03,112 it means go, eat your greens, yet when you look 162 00:08:03,237 --> 00:08:05,698 at red, well red means stop, blood is red, 163 00:08:05,823 --> 00:08:08,075 it doesn't take long for media to pick up 164 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,120 on these thing and we don't realize it's happening 165 00:08:11,245 --> 00:08:12,913 but it's happening right in front of us, 166 00:08:13,038 --> 00:08:14,331 [upbeat music] 167 00:08:14,456 --> 00:08:17,042 [announcer] It's 10 p.m. do you know where 168 00:08:17,167 --> 00:08:18,419 your children are? 169 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:20,421 [people yell and punch] 170 00:08:20,587 --> 00:08:22,631 [Vinnie] Back to Ellen White and her visions, 171 00:08:22,756 --> 00:08:24,633 Ellen was having these premonitions 172 00:08:24,758 --> 00:08:26,427 and all of this was happening, the rioting's 173 00:08:26,593 --> 00:08:29,930 were happening, in the mid-1860s, 174 00:08:30,055 --> 00:08:34,435 but ten years earlier in 1856, a 12 year old boy 175 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,770 came to work with the church, his family 176 00:08:36,895 --> 00:08:39,273 was in a church and that was John Kellogg, 177 00:08:40,774 --> 00:08:44,528 John, by the time he was 16, was writing 178 00:08:44,653 --> 00:08:47,031 and putting out literature for the church, 179 00:08:47,156 --> 00:08:49,158 He would go on to share some of the most bizarre 180 00:08:49,283 --> 00:08:51,410 beliefs that Ellen White and the church had 181 00:08:51,535 --> 00:08:53,037 including the idea that masturbation 182 00:08:53,162 --> 00:08:54,038 and sex were off limits, 183 00:08:54,163 --> 00:08:55,998 Excuse me, Ricky, 184 00:08:56,123 --> 00:08:57,875 To stave off these sins of the flesh, 185 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,877 you should never eat meat because meat 186 00:09:00,002 --> 00:09:02,671 increases sexual desire, Well, this is what 187 00:09:02,796 --> 00:09:04,548 eventually led to Cornflakes, 188 00:09:04,673 --> 00:09:06,341 That's right, Cornflakes were created 189 00:09:06,467 --> 00:09:09,595 by Seventh-day Adventists to curb sexual desires, 190 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,430 He was the guy who figured out something 191 00:09:11,555 --> 00:09:14,224 that he termed dextrinization, it's when 192 00:09:14,349 --> 00:09:17,686 you cook down grains so much it turns 193 00:09:17,811 --> 00:09:20,064 into dextrose, it turns into a sugar, 194 00:09:20,731 --> 00:09:22,691 [drum beats] 195 00:09:22,816 --> 00:09:25,444 Today when you see dextrose in a product 196 00:09:25,569 --> 00:09:27,237 you should run in the opposite direction, 197 00:09:27,738 --> 00:09:30,491 It's as bad as seeing high-fructose corn syrup, 198 00:09:30,616 --> 00:09:33,577 It's used for bacon, it's used in salami, 199 00:09:33,702 --> 00:09:36,288 all the luncheon meats that you get 200 00:09:36,413 --> 00:09:38,499 includes dextrose nowadays because 201 00:09:38,624 --> 00:09:40,959 it gives it a shelf life, it's a way 202 00:09:41,085 --> 00:09:44,421 to cure it fast, it's cheap, it's easy to do 203 00:09:44,546 --> 00:09:47,257 so something that John Kellogg started 204 00:09:47,382 --> 00:09:49,093 way back in the day has also seeped 205 00:09:49,218 --> 00:09:51,970 across to the other side, into the meat industry, 206 00:09:54,264 --> 00:09:56,016 [Gary] There are two issues, there's always 207 00:09:56,141 --> 00:09:58,143 multiple questions, one is if you switch from 208 00:09:58,268 --> 00:10:00,854 a standard American diet of processed foods 209 00:10:00,979 --> 00:10:03,190 and sugary beverages and, you know, for lack 210 00:10:03,315 --> 00:10:05,275 of a better word, we'll call it junk 211 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,113 and switch to a vegan diet with healthy 212 00:10:09,238 --> 00:10:11,782 vegetables and beans and legumes and fruit 213 00:10:11,907 --> 00:10:13,742 you're getting rid of a lot of crap 214 00:10:13,867 --> 00:10:15,536 that's probably bad for you, which is the sugar 215 00:10:15,661 --> 00:10:18,455 and the highly refined processed foods, 216 00:10:18,580 --> 00:10:20,124 You would expect somebody to feel better 217 00:10:20,249 --> 00:10:22,626 if they did that, the second question is 218 00:10:22,751 --> 00:10:25,337 if you did that and switched to 219 00:10:25,462 --> 00:10:28,757 a whole food diet that was animal food based 220 00:10:28,882 --> 00:10:32,302 rather than plant based, would you be would they be healthier? 221 00:10:32,427 --> 00:10:35,764 I have spent aggregated more than six years 222 00:10:35,889 --> 00:10:39,101 on red meat that is seal meat, caribou meat, 223 00:10:39,226 --> 00:10:42,062 muskox meat, polar bear, grizzly bear, so on, 224 00:10:42,187 --> 00:10:44,064 [Vinnie] The Stefansson diet was considered 225 00:10:44,189 --> 00:10:47,693 an all meat diet, so what he did 226 00:10:47,818 --> 00:10:52,573 in 1928, was subjected himself and a friend of his 227 00:10:52,698 --> 00:10:55,117 to living in a hospital, being monitored 228 00:10:55,242 --> 00:10:58,036 for an entire year eating nothing but meat 229 00:10:58,162 --> 00:11:01,165 fish and water, and that became the famous Bellevue Study, 230 00:11:02,833 --> 00:11:05,586 [narrator] The studies on Stefansson, which were intensively made 231 00:11:05,752 --> 00:11:10,757 from every clinical angle, started on February 13th, 1928. 232 00:11:10,883 --> 00:11:12,885 Stefansson was tested during the experiment 233 00:11:13,010 --> 00:11:16,346 with an excessively high protein, minimal fat diet 234 00:11:16,471 --> 00:11:17,973 and as a result, became ill. 235 00:11:18,098 --> 00:11:20,767 Stefansson said the only time that he felt ill 236 00:11:20,893 --> 00:11:22,811 was when he ate too much lean meat 237 00:11:22,936 --> 00:11:25,856 not accompanied by the fat, but that some thick steaks 238 00:11:25,981 --> 00:11:27,941 made him feel better again [laughs], 239 00:11:28,066 --> 00:11:30,110 You have to have fat with the lean 240 00:11:30,235 --> 00:11:34,448 as lean and fat together make a perfect diet, 241 00:11:34,573 --> 00:11:37,409 At the end, there were six publications that came out of that experiment 242 00:11:37,534 --> 00:11:40,954 by different doctors looking at whether or not they got enough vitamins and minerals 243 00:11:41,079 --> 00:11:43,207 and everything they could possibly measure and they were found 244 00:11:43,332 --> 00:11:44,833 to be in perfect health, 245 00:11:59,681 --> 00:12:04,478 I wanted to try to dispel from the world 246 00:12:04,603 --> 00:12:07,481 the same misconceptions which I had 247 00:12:07,606 --> 00:12:09,983 of the Arctic when I went north, 248 00:12:10,108 --> 00:12:12,653 I used to think that I was well-informed 249 00:12:12,778 --> 00:12:14,321 on the Arctic before I went north, 250 00:12:14,988 --> 00:12:19,201 and-- but I concluded eventually that out of 251 00:12:19,326 --> 00:12:22,371 ten things that I believed about the Arctic 252 00:12:22,496 --> 00:12:24,831 before I went north, about six were wrong, 253 00:12:25,457 --> 00:12:27,626 [piano music] 254 00:12:27,751 --> 00:12:30,671 The medical community has been promoting 255 00:12:30,796 --> 00:12:33,548 saturated fat as being the bad actor 256 00:12:33,674 --> 00:12:37,052 for heart disease mainly and that really 257 00:12:37,177 --> 00:12:40,180 came from weak science called epidemiology, 258 00:12:40,305 --> 00:12:42,891 Experimental evidence that shows 259 00:12:43,016 --> 00:12:45,686 that that's actually true has never been done, 260 00:12:45,811 --> 00:12:47,771 For example, you could radio label 261 00:12:47,896 --> 00:12:50,190 saturated fat in the food and see 262 00:12:50,315 --> 00:12:53,235 if it shows up on the arteries, That's never been done, 263 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,946 The entire teaching about saturated fat 264 00:12:56,071 --> 00:12:59,116 being bad for the heart is not really 265 00:12:59,241 --> 00:13:00,701 founded in good science, 266 00:13:02,244 --> 00:13:04,705 [Vinnie] It's not that the information is not out there, 267 00:13:04,830 --> 00:13:06,957 I remember early on when I was in college, 268 00:13:07,082 --> 00:13:09,876 I had a college professor explain to us 269 00:13:10,002 --> 00:13:14,089 that fat was our body's preferred source of energy, 270 00:13:14,214 --> 00:13:18,427 Okay, fat is a very good way to have energy 271 00:13:18,552 --> 00:13:20,512 and that same professor a couple of weeks 272 00:13:20,637 --> 00:13:23,640 later said, our bodies prefer sugar 273 00:13:23,765 --> 00:13:26,727 when we do exercise, Weren't we talking 274 00:13:26,852 --> 00:13:28,520 about fat just a couple of weeks ago? 275 00:13:28,645 --> 00:13:30,522 Yeah, forget about all that, it's sugar, 276 00:13:30,647 --> 00:13:33,734 So, the message even in top universities 277 00:13:33,859 --> 00:13:34,860 right here in the United States 278 00:13:34,985 --> 00:13:36,653 are a bunch of mixed messages, 279 00:13:37,321 --> 00:13:38,697 [dramatic music] 280 00:13:41,908 --> 00:13:43,869 [Vinnie] Do I think there's a big responsibility 281 00:13:43,994 --> 00:13:45,579 for media to do the right thing? 282 00:13:45,704 --> 00:13:48,248 Yes, I do, you know, we have three big networks, 283 00:13:48,373 --> 00:13:51,209 the big three, ABC, CBS and NBC, 284 00:13:51,335 --> 00:13:53,670 Whatever they told us, we went with, 285 00:13:53,795 --> 00:13:55,756 Hell, when I was a kid, there was still 286 00:13:55,881 --> 00:13:57,716 even cigarette commercials on the air, 287 00:13:57,841 --> 00:14:00,302 At least we figured out that that was a bad idea, 288 00:14:00,427 --> 00:14:03,138 โ™ช Don't settle for some of the taste โ™ช 289 00:14:03,263 --> 00:14:05,766 โ™ช Some of the time โ™ช 290 00:14:05,932 --> 00:14:08,185 It's very easy to see how someone 291 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:10,270 can think something or just say something 292 00:14:10,395 --> 00:14:12,856 and that becomes a reality, 293 00:14:12,981 --> 00:14:15,150 [narrator] Breakfast, no eggs or fatty meats 294 00:14:15,275 --> 00:14:17,069 instead, eat grains and fiber 295 00:14:17,194 --> 00:14:19,154 that actually lower cholesterol. 296 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:21,615 [Vinnie] How about the term heart healthy grains, 297 00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:24,076 We've all seen it, many people believe it, 298 00:14:24,201 --> 00:14:27,329 After all, the terms come from studies that prove it to be true, right? 299 00:14:27,454 --> 00:14:30,082 Those were studies looking at whole grains 300 00:14:30,207 --> 00:14:33,877 versus white processed flours and grains, 301 00:14:34,002 --> 00:14:35,504 So of course, when you're comparing it 302 00:14:35,629 --> 00:14:37,881 to something like white processed flour, 303 00:14:38,006 --> 00:14:40,592 it's going to be better, but does that mean 304 00:14:40,717 --> 00:14:43,595 it in and of itself is therefore heart healthy? 305 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,224 You could make the argument that whole grains 306 00:14:47,349 --> 00:14:51,019 are less bad for you than refined grains 307 00:14:51,144 --> 00:14:54,147 but that doesn't make whole grains good, 308 00:14:54,272 --> 00:14:58,068 Oatmeal, or oat bread, or an oat muffin 309 00:14:58,193 --> 00:15:00,987 or oat bran that can either incorporated 310 00:15:01,113 --> 00:15:02,989 into some other cereal product, 311 00:15:03,115 --> 00:15:04,699 It's like cigarettes, you can have 312 00:15:04,825 --> 00:15:06,910 cigarettes with a filter on and they're less 313 00:15:07,035 --> 00:15:10,455 bad for you perhaps than unfiltered cigarettes, 314 00:15:10,580 --> 00:15:14,584 Doesn't make the filtered cigarettes good, It just means they're less bad 315 00:15:14,709 --> 00:15:18,171 and the same thing is true for whole grains, They are less bad, 316 00:15:18,296 --> 00:15:21,967 We should put more emphasis on our vegetables we should think about the vegetables 317 00:15:22,092 --> 00:15:24,136 we're gonna have for dinner rather than the meat portion, 318 00:15:24,261 --> 00:15:26,763 [Vinnie] Listen I'm not a doctor, I'm just a guy 319 00:15:26,888 --> 00:15:28,515 with a physical education degree 320 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,392 who became a trainer and somehow 321 00:15:30,517 --> 00:15:32,394 found myself in the world of modeling, 322 00:15:34,354 --> 00:15:36,314 Before I became a trainer to the stars 323 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,941 and eventually, a best-selling author 324 00:15:38,066 --> 00:15:40,569 and podcaster, but when I started modeling 325 00:15:40,694 --> 00:15:44,114 in LA in the early 90s, I realized that the media will sell us anything 326 00:15:44,239 --> 00:15:47,159 to make a buck, regardless of whether it's healthy or not, 327 00:15:47,284 --> 00:15:49,327 Let's face it, every beer commercial 328 00:15:49,453 --> 00:15:52,497 you've ever seen is a bunch of ripped-up guys 329 00:15:52,622 --> 00:15:54,249 on a beach playing volleyball because 330 00:15:54,374 --> 00:15:55,876 that's what beer drinkers look like, 331 00:15:56,042 --> 00:15:59,004 [intense music] 332 00:16:00,672 --> 00:16:03,133 If you have ripped up abs or you have 333 00:16:03,258 --> 00:16:06,595 a nice set of shoulders, they want you 334 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,972 modeling everything in the infomercials, 335 00:16:09,097 --> 00:16:11,391 It was the heyday of the infomercial, 336 00:16:11,516 --> 00:16:13,768 [male announcer] If we think fat, then we are. 337 00:16:13,894 --> 00:16:15,520 [woman] Fad diets, powders, pills, 338 00:16:15,645 --> 00:16:17,814 still my weight's been up and down like a yo-yo 339 00:16:17,939 --> 00:16:19,483 until the Ayds plan taught me how to 340 00:16:19,608 --> 00:16:21,318 take off weight and help keep it off, 341 00:16:21,443 --> 00:16:23,278 Just 20 minutes a day will turn 342 00:16:23,403 --> 00:16:25,614 your body into a calorie burning furnace, 343 00:16:25,739 --> 00:16:28,366 We were coming into this age of, hey, 344 00:16:28,492 --> 00:16:30,660 if you just do what I tell you, 345 00:16:30,785 --> 00:16:34,664 you can look like this guy or this woman in just a few weeks, 346 00:16:34,789 --> 00:16:38,210 Dexatrim did it, I lost weight and feel great! 347 00:16:38,335 --> 00:16:40,629 Nobody wanted the truth, they just wanted 348 00:16:40,754 --> 00:16:42,923 a lie that they could get everyone to believe, 349 00:16:43,048 --> 00:16:45,383 [man] Now you can lose weight without diets... 350 00:16:45,509 --> 00:16:47,093 No, this product really doesn't work, 351 00:16:47,219 --> 00:16:48,345 ,..without pills. 352 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:50,055 No, that product really doesn't work, 353 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:51,890 ,..without exercise. 354 00:16:52,015 --> 00:16:53,475 Well, what does work? 355 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,726 [man] Now you can lose weight 356 00:16:54,851 --> 00:16:56,228 just by watching television. 357 00:16:56,353 --> 00:16:58,563 So I learned very quickly, be careful 358 00:16:58,688 --> 00:16:59,564 as to what you advertise, 359 00:17:00,106 --> 00:17:01,816 [upbeat music] 360 00:17:09,324 --> 00:17:11,493 The 1920s and 30s it was a lot different, 361 00:17:11,618 --> 00:17:14,079 we were learning a lot of things back then, 362 00:17:14,204 --> 00:17:17,123 We were discovering vitamins for the first time, 363 00:17:17,249 --> 00:17:20,585 Uh, we also learned that food could heal 364 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:22,712 and a lot of these therapies are what 365 00:17:22,837 --> 00:17:24,839 were being used to heal people, 366 00:17:24,965 --> 00:17:28,593 They were using non-starchy, non-sugary diets 367 00:17:28,718 --> 00:17:32,639 to starve cancer in the 1920s and 30s, 368 00:17:33,139 --> 00:17:34,724 Take Otto Warburg for instance, 369 00:17:34,849 --> 00:17:37,561 He was doing cancer studies on rats, 370 00:17:37,686 --> 00:17:39,312 [jaunty music] 371 00:17:42,649 --> 00:17:44,317 He thought that the outcome would be 372 00:17:44,442 --> 00:17:46,736 that oxygen was what was fueling 373 00:17:46,861 --> 00:17:49,573 cancer cells to grow and what he learned 374 00:17:49,698 --> 00:17:52,701 with rats was that it was actually the sugar, 375 00:17:52,826 --> 00:17:54,202 โ™ช Eat an apple everyday โ™ช 376 00:18:15,890 --> 00:18:18,101 His discovery was well known as 377 00:18:18,226 --> 00:18:21,229 the Warburg Effect and it was shown to help 378 00:18:21,354 --> 00:18:24,190 in somewhere near 80% of the cases 379 00:18:24,316 --> 00:18:27,152 of people who had cancer, Why does it feel like 380 00:18:27,277 --> 00:18:28,612 no one knows this information? 381 00:18:28,737 --> 00:18:32,782 -[jaunty music] -[liquid bubbles] 382 00:18:32,907 --> 00:18:35,035 We were making these discoveries, 383 00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:37,954 So what else contributed to them not taking hold? 384 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:40,707 We had a Great Depression and then we had a war, 385 00:18:40,832 --> 00:18:44,210 a lot of people were having trouble putting food in their mouth, period, 386 00:18:44,336 --> 00:18:47,839 so I don't think people were caring that much about their health, people were just 387 00:18:47,964 --> 00:18:50,842 trying to eat anything, people didn't eat out as much, 388 00:18:50,967 --> 00:18:53,053 We made home-made dressings, you didn't have 389 00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:55,472 dressings that were full of processed oils 390 00:18:55,597 --> 00:18:58,141 and we weren't adding high-fructose corn syrup 391 00:18:58,266 --> 00:19:02,520 to everything that we ate, we ate real whole foods 392 00:19:02,646 --> 00:19:04,230 that were cooked at home, 393 00:19:04,356 --> 00:19:06,566 Even fast food was different back 394 00:19:06,691 --> 00:19:10,195 in the 1940s and 50s, If you had french fries 395 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,031 they were made from rendered animal fat, 396 00:19:13,156 --> 00:19:16,242 Basically beef tallow, which was a better way 397 00:19:16,368 --> 00:19:19,204 to cook junk food, so even our junk food 398 00:19:19,329 --> 00:19:22,374 was better in the 1940s and 50s and 60s, 399 00:19:22,499 --> 00:19:24,918 [dramatic music] 400 00:19:27,212 --> 00:19:30,090 It wasn't until we got to the 1950s 401 00:19:30,215 --> 00:19:33,093 where people start to become more prosperous, 402 00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:37,972 We saw the advent of TV dinners 403 00:19:38,098 --> 00:19:39,432 and other stuff and more sugar 404 00:19:39,557 --> 00:19:41,935 and processed foods came from everywhere, 405 00:19:43,895 --> 00:19:48,441 But what really happens happened in 1955 406 00:19:48,566 --> 00:19:51,528 when one of the most popular presidents of our time, 407 00:19:51,653 --> 00:19:54,280 Dwight D, Eisenhower, had a heart attack, 408 00:19:56,533 --> 00:19:58,326 [reporter] News of President Eisenhower's 409 00:19:58,451 --> 00:20:00,286 sudden illness, described by his doctors 410 00:20:00,412 --> 00:20:03,665 as coronary thrombosis, came as a severe shock to us all. 411 00:20:03,790 --> 00:20:07,335 Films of President Eisenhower made just before his heart attack 412 00:20:07,460 --> 00:20:11,214 are dramatic evidence of the suddenness of the illness that shocked the nation. 413 00:20:11,339 --> 00:20:12,966 [narrator] President Eisenhower's heart attack... 414 00:20:13,091 --> 00:20:14,300 [typewriter clacks] 415 00:20:23,518 --> 00:20:26,146 Well, if he could die, what could happen to me? 416 00:20:26,271 --> 00:20:27,772 You have to understand, this is a period 417 00:20:27,897 --> 00:20:30,275 in the 1950s when America is in 418 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,986 a complete panic about the rising tide of heart disease, 419 00:20:33,111 --> 00:20:35,363 Before that, we never thought about heart attacks, 420 00:20:35,488 --> 00:20:37,574 we never thought about health and fitness, 421 00:20:37,699 --> 00:20:39,409 we didn't think abut the food we were eating, 422 00:20:39,534 --> 00:20:42,579 No one back in the 1950s knew what 423 00:20:42,704 --> 00:20:45,331 their cholesterol score was, much less 424 00:20:45,457 --> 00:20:47,709 even knew what the world cholesterol meant, 425 00:20:48,334 --> 00:20:50,295 [jaunty music] 426 00:21:05,351 --> 00:21:07,812 Cholesterol is kind of a fat type molecule, 427 00:21:07,937 --> 00:21:10,607 it's in all of our cells, 30 trillion cells, 428 00:21:10,732 --> 00:21:12,442 Cholesterol is actually so important 429 00:21:12,567 --> 00:21:14,402 to the body that it actually makes 430 00:21:14,527 --> 00:21:16,571 the majority of cholesterol that's in your blood 431 00:21:16,696 --> 00:21:19,073 right now, most of the dietary cholesterol 432 00:21:19,199 --> 00:21:22,118 you eat will go through you and very little 433 00:21:22,243 --> 00:21:24,287 actually gets absorbed, and of that cholesterol 434 00:21:24,412 --> 00:21:27,707 you find in the blood, most of it was made by your liver, 435 00:21:27,832 --> 00:21:30,084 [narrator] It is an essential of nerve tissue for instance,,, 436 00:21:41,137 --> 00:21:44,390 If you eat more cholesterol, your body will make less, if you eat less 437 00:21:44,516 --> 00:21:47,227 your body will make more, which makes it very interesting 438 00:21:47,352 --> 00:21:49,729 that it was maligned in the past few decades, 439 00:21:49,854 --> 00:21:52,357 Heart disease had been rare in 440 00:21:52,482 --> 00:21:54,734 the early 1900s and had really risen 441 00:21:54,859 --> 00:21:57,195 since the late 1920s to be the number one 442 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,239 killer disease by the 1950s, 443 00:21:59,405 --> 00:22:01,950 We took a collective gasp in this country, 444 00:22:02,075 --> 00:22:04,160 We didn't wanna have another president die in office, 445 00:22:04,285 --> 00:22:06,079 Just imagine your president not being 446 00:22:06,204 --> 00:22:08,748 in the Oval Office for ten days and he's in bed, 447 00:22:08,873 --> 00:22:10,458 Besides, this guy was very popular, 448 00:22:10,583 --> 00:22:13,002 people wanted to find out what caused it, 449 00:22:13,127 --> 00:22:15,672 Could it have been his diet, and if so, 450 00:22:15,797 --> 00:22:18,007 what was he eating and how can we change it? 451 00:22:18,132 --> 00:22:22,262 This is also the time when the media was more prevalent, 452 00:22:22,387 --> 00:22:24,514 [narrator] Motion picture cameras join newspaper reporters 453 00:22:24,639 --> 00:22:26,266 in the old State Department building 454 00:22:26,432 --> 00:22:28,977 for an historic Presidential press conference. 455 00:22:29,102 --> 00:22:31,396 The first ever filmed in sound by newsreel cameramen. 456 00:22:31,521 --> 00:22:33,273 I see we're trying a new experiment 457 00:22:33,398 --> 00:22:35,608 this morning, I hope it doesn't prove 458 00:22:35,733 --> 00:22:37,068 to be a disturbing influence, 459 00:22:37,902 --> 00:22:39,863 [jaunty music] 460 00:22:46,786 --> 00:22:48,955 The power of media, you can't really 461 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,584 tell that story without telling the story of Oprah Winfrey, 462 00:22:53,167 --> 00:22:57,630 It was 1993 and by happenstance, I was put up for an appearance on Oprah, 463 00:22:57,755 --> 00:23:01,467 They needed someone the next day, They were looking for younger men who were dating 464 00:23:01,593 --> 00:23:06,139 older women and since my girlfriend was seven years older at the time, I was invited on, 465 00:23:06,264 --> 00:23:09,642 I wasn't into it, I had no idea what really happened on Oprah, 466 00:23:09,767 --> 00:23:11,603 but I was told no, you have to do it, 467 00:23:11,728 --> 00:23:13,313 it'll be great for your career, 468 00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:15,315 So they fly me to Chicago and I get 469 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,317 to the green room, I was introduced 470 00:23:17,483 --> 00:23:18,735 to a woman named Doe, 471 00:23:20,612 --> 00:23:24,324 The theme of the show was younger men 472 00:23:24,449 --> 00:23:26,701 who were dating older women, 473 00:23:26,826 --> 00:23:28,328 Older women having the courage 474 00:23:28,453 --> 00:23:29,662 to live their dreams and fulfill 475 00:23:29,787 --> 00:23:31,414 their fantasies and live their lives 476 00:23:31,539 --> 00:23:33,499 exactly the way they wanted to, 477 00:23:33,625 --> 00:23:36,794 including dating younger men, 478 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,132 Doe said that I would have to pretend 479 00:23:41,257 --> 00:23:44,302 that I was dating her and I said what are you talking about? 480 00:23:44,427 --> 00:23:46,721 My guests today, they're all members 481 00:23:46,846 --> 00:23:49,807 of a provocative new kind of dating service, 482 00:23:49,933 --> 00:23:52,226 [Vinnie] I told her that I would not go on stage 483 00:23:52,352 --> 00:23:53,978 and lie, that I would go on stage 484 00:23:54,103 --> 00:23:55,772 and sit next to Doe, but I would not say 485 00:23:55,897 --> 00:23:58,066 that we dated, I quickly realized 486 00:23:58,191 --> 00:24:00,443 that I had been bamboozled, because Doe 487 00:24:00,568 --> 00:24:01,819 introduced me as her boyfriend, 488 00:24:01,945 --> 00:24:03,988 I'd like you meet Vinnie Tortorich, 489 00:24:04,113 --> 00:24:05,949 he's a Beverly Hills fitness expert, 490 00:24:06,074 --> 00:24:08,451 he's hot, sweet, he loves women 491 00:24:08,576 --> 00:24:10,620 and he's emotionally accessible, 492 00:24:10,745 --> 00:24:12,163 - Ah, get out of here, -[audience laughs] 493 00:24:12,288 --> 00:24:13,665 I couldn't believe what was happening 494 00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:17,043 and at that moment, I said to myself, 495 00:24:17,168 --> 00:24:20,880 I'm gonna turn this into not the Oprah show but the Vinnie show, 496 00:24:21,005 --> 00:24:22,882 Number one, women don't even hit 497 00:24:23,007 --> 00:24:25,301 their sexual prime until they hit 40, 498 00:24:25,426 --> 00:24:27,345 they don't even know what's going on until they're 40! 499 00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:28,638 [audience cheers] 500 00:24:30,515 --> 00:24:31,975 I've been dating older women-- 501 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,519 - Gee, I'm only 39! -[audience laughs] 502 00:24:34,644 --> 00:24:37,772 I'm gonna make this show so bad that they won't possibly 503 00:24:37,897 --> 00:24:39,857 be able to run it on national television, 504 00:24:39,983 --> 00:24:42,318 You wanna be with an older woman, it's the difference between riding in 505 00:24:42,443 --> 00:24:45,530 a Volkswagen and a Cadillac, If you wanna ride in a Volkswagen, 506 00:24:45,655 --> 00:24:46,948 go right ahead, if you want the Cadillac, 507 00:24:47,073 --> 00:24:48,950 -go for an older woman, - Well, now-- 508 00:24:49,075 --> 00:24:51,202 [audience cheers] 509 00:24:51,327 --> 00:24:52,996 It turned into a circus, the people 510 00:24:53,121 --> 00:24:55,915 in the audience actually believed all this, 511 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,667 Doe and I had just met, 512 00:24:57,792 --> 00:25:00,044 It was like the audience was participating 513 00:25:00,169 --> 00:25:01,838 in this huge game of Mad Libs, 514 00:25:01,963 --> 00:25:03,297 Two different generations, 515 00:25:03,423 --> 00:25:05,425 How was school, oh I learned arithmetic, 516 00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:07,593 I don't see how two people can have something in common 517 00:25:07,719 --> 00:25:08,886 if they're not the same age, 518 00:25:09,012 --> 00:25:10,221 It seems like people are treating this 519 00:25:10,346 --> 00:25:11,389 like some sort of fetish, 520 00:25:11,514 --> 00:25:12,306 What could you possible 521 00:25:12,432 --> 00:25:13,266 have in common? 522 00:25:13,391 --> 00:25:14,392 Let's say Cher 523 00:25:14,517 --> 00:25:15,435 walked into the room 524 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,395 and said she had to have you, 525 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,106 [audience laughs and cheers] 526 00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:23,317 Sally, get Cher on the phone! 527 00:25:23,443 --> 00:25:26,863 I ended up asking Cher out on a date 528 00:25:26,988 --> 00:25:29,449 -during the show, - Cher is on the phone, 529 00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:31,534 Cher, my name is Vinnie Tortorich and,,, 530 00:25:31,659 --> 00:25:32,452 [audience laughs] 531 00:25:33,494 --> 00:25:34,996 I wanna say this in front of the whole country, 532 00:25:35,121 --> 00:25:36,622 - Is the camera on me? - Yeah, the cameras on you, 533 00:25:36,748 --> 00:25:39,959 Cher, I live in Beverly Hills, let's get together 534 00:25:40,084 --> 00:25:43,004 and have lunch, I'll have my agent call your agent, and we'll do it 535 00:25:43,129 --> 00:25:44,380 because we'll have a great time, 536 00:25:44,505 --> 00:25:46,758 No matter how outlandish I got, 537 00:25:46,883 --> 00:25:48,259 they seemed to enjoy it more and more, 538 00:25:48,384 --> 00:25:50,428 What I wanna know is from the ladies 539 00:25:50,553 --> 00:25:53,014 in the audience, should I have lunch with this guy? 540 00:25:53,973 --> 00:25:55,683 As a matter of fact, you can see Oprah, 541 00:25:55,808 --> 00:25:57,727 Oprah started dancing in the aisles, 542 00:25:57,852 --> 00:25:59,562 [audience cheers] 543 00:26:01,898 --> 00:26:03,733 The show ended and I went back to LA 544 00:26:03,858 --> 00:26:05,693 and I just assumed, well that show's gonna bomb, 545 00:26:05,818 --> 00:26:07,904 As of last year, it was the seventh 546 00:26:08,029 --> 00:26:10,573 highest rated show in Oprah's history, 547 00:26:10,698 --> 00:26:13,034 people still recognize me for it today 548 00:26:13,159 --> 00:26:15,495 and virtually none of it was true, 549 00:26:15,661 --> 00:26:18,122 I took that realization that media 550 00:26:18,247 --> 00:26:19,248 can change everything, 551 00:26:20,458 --> 00:26:23,086 Eisenhower has a heart attack and he wants 552 00:26:23,211 --> 00:26:24,670 the whole country to know that this 553 00:26:24,796 --> 00:26:26,923 -was a real issue, - I am happy the doctors 554 00:26:27,048 --> 00:26:31,511 have given me at least a parole if not a pardon 555 00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:35,515 and I expect to be back at my accustomed duties 556 00:26:35,681 --> 00:26:37,809 although they say I must ease my way 557 00:26:37,934 --> 00:26:40,394 into 'em and not bulldoze my way into 'em, 558 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,271 But the media had other ideas, 559 00:26:42,396 --> 00:26:44,524 They have their own agenda, ah, 560 00:26:44,649 --> 00:26:46,526 he had the common cold of heart attacks, 561 00:26:46,651 --> 00:26:48,111 he didn't really have a bad one, 562 00:26:48,236 --> 00:26:50,029 The media was trying to show him 563 00:26:50,154 --> 00:26:52,532 on the golf course, having a great round of golf, 564 00:26:52,657 --> 00:26:54,909 [balls whack] 565 00:26:55,493 --> 00:26:59,372 It was thought that diet was the cause, He was also like a four pack a day smoker, 566 00:26:59,497 --> 00:27:02,416 [laughs] Which may very well have given him his heart attack, 567 00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:04,544 [narrator] Yes, according to this survey, 568 00:27:04,669 --> 00:27:08,005 more doctors smoke Camel than any other cigarette. 569 00:27:08,131 --> 00:27:09,632 Try Camels yourself. 570 00:27:09,757 --> 00:27:12,343 Right around that time, enters Ancel Keys, 571 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,556 [Nina] Ancel Keys was a pathologist 572 00:27:16,681 --> 00:27:18,266 at the University of Minnesota, 573 00:27:18,391 --> 00:27:23,479 He got the idea in the 1950s that saturated fat 574 00:27:23,604 --> 00:27:26,315 and cholesterol were what caused heart diseases, 575 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,113 It strikes without warning, Of ten men, we can expect five to get it, 576 00:27:32,864 --> 00:27:35,283 [thuds] 577 00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:40,496 But we can't say who or when or why, 578 00:27:41,164 --> 00:27:44,584 Ancel Keys was this incredibly persuasive person, 579 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:49,088 He had a really outsized belief in his own ideas, 580 00:27:49,213 --> 00:27:52,049 [Ancel] The facts are simple, you know the chief killer 581 00:27:52,175 --> 00:27:54,760 of Americans is cardiovascular disease. 582 00:27:54,886 --> 00:27:57,680 Disorders and degeneration of the heart and blood vessels. 583 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:01,225 Here are vital statistics. 584 00:28:03,019 --> 00:28:06,272 They show that this problem here in America is the worst in the world, 585 00:28:06,397 --> 00:28:08,608 Ancel Keys was famous for something 586 00:28:08,774 --> 00:28:10,359 called the Seven Countries Study, 587 00:28:10,484 --> 00:28:11,694 This is where he went and studied 588 00:28:11,819 --> 00:28:14,822 seven different countries and came up with 589 00:28:14,947 --> 00:28:17,950 this hypothesis as to how we're supposed to eat 590 00:28:18,075 --> 00:28:19,368 based on correlation, 591 00:28:19,493 --> 00:28:21,037 Ancel Keys is the one who proposed 592 00:28:21,162 --> 00:28:22,622 what he called the Diet Heart Hypothesis 593 00:28:22,747 --> 00:28:25,958 and that was that saturated fat and cholesterol, 594 00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:28,711 dietary cholesterol would give you a heart attack, 595 00:28:28,836 --> 00:28:32,715 especially saturated fat, like hot oil 596 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,967 down a cold stove pipe, it would just 597 00:28:35,092 --> 00:28:37,220 clog up your arteries and give you a heart attack, 598 00:28:37,345 --> 00:28:39,639 The problem is, he cherry picked 599 00:28:39,764 --> 00:28:42,433 these countries to fit what he was 600 00:28:42,558 --> 00:28:44,518 trying to hypothesize and set out 601 00:28:44,644 --> 00:28:46,187 to prove that the more calories you got 602 00:28:46,312 --> 00:28:47,647 from fat, the better chance you had 603 00:28:47,772 --> 00:28:49,482 of getting heart disease, 604 00:28:49,607 --> 00:28:51,609 It seemed like a straight line between 605 00:28:51,734 --> 00:28:54,403 the least fat consumed and the most fat consumed 606 00:28:54,528 --> 00:28:55,863 with the US at the top, 607 00:28:56,447 --> 00:28:59,951 The only problem is, Key studied 22 countries 608 00:29:00,076 --> 00:29:01,786 and if you factor in all of those countries, 609 00:29:01,911 --> 00:29:03,788 the results are all over the place, 610 00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:06,415 He just took the seven countries 611 00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:09,252 that proved his point that fat causes heart disease, 612 00:29:09,377 --> 00:29:11,754 This study made Keys the temporary savior 613 00:29:11,879 --> 00:29:14,548 of the medical community, and therefore, the world, 614 00:29:14,674 --> 00:29:16,676 Such that he was able to get on 615 00:29:16,801 --> 00:29:19,553 to the American Heart Association Nutrition Committee 616 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:21,847 and he turned the whole Association around 617 00:29:21,973 --> 00:29:24,767 in one year and got them, in 1961 618 00:29:24,892 --> 00:29:27,144 to recommend that all Americans 619 00:29:27,270 --> 00:29:29,689 restrict saturated fat and cholesterol 620 00:29:29,814 --> 00:29:32,191 in their diets in order to fight heart disease, 621 00:29:49,458 --> 00:29:52,211 This is the first advice anywhere in the world 622 00:29:52,336 --> 00:29:54,505 telling people not to eat saturated fat 623 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:56,799 and cholesterol to fight heart attacks 624 00:29:56,924 --> 00:29:59,093 that's like the beginning of it all, 625 00:29:59,218 --> 00:30:01,971 That is what just blossomed, bloomed, 626 00:30:02,096 --> 00:30:05,266 grew into the giant oak tree of advice that we have now, 627 00:30:05,391 --> 00:30:08,602 We have no credible evidence to say 628 00:30:08,728 --> 00:30:11,397 that saturated fat causes heart disease 629 00:30:11,522 --> 00:30:14,025 and that sounds crazy to say when you look 630 00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:16,736 at our Government guidelines and our dietary guidelines, 631 00:30:16,861 --> 00:30:20,614 but there is no high level, credible evidence 632 00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:24,327 to show that saturated fat causes heart disease, 633 00:30:24,452 --> 00:30:25,578 The interesting thing about Key's 634 00:30:25,703 --> 00:30:27,747 he got virtually everything wrong, 635 00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:31,167 but it never infected his humility, 636 00:30:31,292 --> 00:30:34,128 [epic music] 637 00:30:34,253 --> 00:30:35,463 We're living in a time right now 638 00:30:35,588 --> 00:30:37,048 when we've had a narcissistic term 639 00:30:37,173 --> 00:30:38,966 people are very primitive and narcissistic 640 00:30:39,091 --> 00:30:40,343 a lot of injuries in childhood, 641 00:30:40,468 --> 00:30:43,304 and it has caused us to, umm, perhaps not 642 00:30:43,429 --> 00:30:45,389 have the most secure sense of self 643 00:30:45,514 --> 00:30:48,142 and identity, people attach themselves 644 00:30:48,267 --> 00:30:50,895 to one particular approach to diet 645 00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:53,314 and it develops into an identity 646 00:30:53,439 --> 00:30:56,609 around which people maintain a religious 647 00:30:56,734 --> 00:30:59,612 intensity, they defend it as though 648 00:30:59,737 --> 00:31:02,531 any question in their dogma is like 649 00:31:02,656 --> 00:31:04,575 you're questioning their religious dogma 650 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,870 or threatening their very sense of the fabric of reality and so 651 00:31:07,995 --> 00:31:12,291 we start looking around for things to attach ourselves to and political groups, 652 00:31:12,416 --> 00:31:16,087 religious organizations, different diet fads, 653 00:31:16,212 --> 00:31:18,547 We attach ourselves to these groups 654 00:31:18,672 --> 00:31:21,050 and we look to the groups for our identity 655 00:31:21,175 --> 00:31:23,803 so our going forward in life is somehow 656 00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:25,805 threatened by somebody saying, 657 00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:27,890 hey maybe fat's not so bad for you, 658 00:31:28,015 --> 00:31:32,520 It's positively comedic but it's becoming ridiculous, 659 00:31:32,645 --> 00:31:34,939 The United States' coronary heart disease 660 00:31:35,064 --> 00:31:38,442 is so common that you all wanna have to do 661 00:31:38,567 --> 00:31:41,278 to study the complete natural history 662 00:31:41,404 --> 00:31:43,823 of the disease is to take a sample of men, 663 00:31:43,948 --> 00:31:47,910 any sample of men that are known healthy follow them, wait a little while, 664 00:31:48,035 --> 00:31:50,037 and a lot of them will have coronary heart disease, 665 00:31:50,162 --> 00:31:52,998 But it wasn't very long before it appeared 666 00:31:53,124 --> 00:31:55,960 there was some connection between 667 00:31:56,085 --> 00:31:58,838 coronary heart disease and cholesterol in the blood, 668 00:31:59,004 --> 00:32:02,341 No question, we hear over and over and over again 669 00:32:02,466 --> 00:32:04,510 that cholesterol equals mortality, 670 00:32:04,635 --> 00:32:06,387 We've seen it in the commercials, 671 00:32:06,512 --> 00:32:07,930 Fleischmann's margarine! 672 00:32:08,055 --> 00:32:09,515 It's the only leading margarine made 673 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,518 from 100% corn oil, it has no cholesterol! 674 00:32:12,643 --> 00:32:15,020 [Dave] We've heard about it from our doctor, 675 00:32:15,146 --> 00:32:17,690 [Doctor] Over time, the build up on the walls of veins and arteries 676 00:32:17,815 --> 00:32:19,859 helping to clog them, restricting blood flow, 677 00:32:19,984 --> 00:32:22,278 it's what causes heart attacks and strokes, 678 00:32:22,403 --> 00:32:25,656 We've heard about it plenty of times from our friends and our family, 679 00:32:25,781 --> 00:32:29,743 and because of that, we tend to think it's just simply the truth, 680 00:32:29,869 --> 00:32:32,496 It certainly has the degree of repetition that we would expect, 681 00:32:32,621 --> 00:32:35,332 In the 60s and 70s we were focusing 682 00:32:35,458 --> 00:32:38,169 more on the specific types of cholesterol, 683 00:32:38,294 --> 00:32:43,424 LDL and HDL and LDL became known as the bad cholesterol 684 00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:47,094 and all of a sudden, medicine was focused on LDL, 685 00:32:47,219 --> 00:32:49,638 It was noticed that higher cholesterol 686 00:32:49,763 --> 00:32:52,016 in the blood appeared to correlate 687 00:32:52,141 --> 00:32:54,894 or track with higher heart disease rates, 688 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:58,898 [man] Cholesterol is carried in the blood by proteins called low density lipoproteins, 689 00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:01,567 or LDLs, the more cholesterol we eat 690 00:33:01,692 --> 00:33:04,111 the more the number of LDLs, and that's dangerous. 691 00:33:04,236 --> 00:33:06,322 So essentially, the idea was developed 692 00:33:06,447 --> 00:33:08,073 that the higher cholesterol was getting 693 00:33:08,199 --> 00:33:10,826 in to your arteries and was causing 694 00:33:10,951 --> 00:33:12,328 the arterial disease, 695 00:33:12,453 --> 00:33:15,831 Because the higher that lipoprotein level goes 696 00:33:15,956 --> 00:33:17,583 the greater the risk of heart disease, 697 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:21,086 There are some studies that show a correlation, 698 00:33:21,212 --> 00:33:23,005 Does that mean causation, and this 699 00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:25,466 is a very important differentiation 700 00:33:25,591 --> 00:33:28,677 that is too infrequently made, 701 00:33:28,802 --> 00:33:30,387 Because something is correlated, 702 00:33:30,513 --> 00:33:32,515 doesn't mean it is the cause, 703 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,934 So if high cholesterol is present 704 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,561 in people who are having heart disease 705 00:33:37,686 --> 00:33:39,146 we have to look a little further 706 00:33:39,271 --> 00:33:41,649 as to why that is and if there are other factors, 707 00:33:41,774 --> 00:33:43,651 When you really look at the studies 708 00:33:43,776 --> 00:33:46,362 and you crunch the data, LDL is not 709 00:33:46,487 --> 00:33:48,364 the best marker for heart disease, 710 00:33:48,489 --> 00:33:51,283 What's even more powerful, are your ratios, 711 00:33:51,408 --> 00:33:54,411 So whether it's your total cholesterol to HDL ratio 712 00:33:54,537 --> 00:33:57,081 or your triglyceride to HDL ratio, 713 00:33:57,206 --> 00:34:01,210 Those have better predictive value than LDL itself, 714 00:34:01,335 --> 00:34:03,963 The ratios indicate your level 715 00:34:04,129 --> 00:34:07,091 of insulin sensitivity or insulin resistance 716 00:34:07,216 --> 00:34:08,842 so the best cholesterol measures 717 00:34:08,968 --> 00:34:11,053 are not actually even talking about 718 00:34:11,178 --> 00:34:14,139 a cholesterol thing, they are indirectly 719 00:34:14,265 --> 00:34:16,392 talking about insulin resistance and health, 720 00:34:16,517 --> 00:34:21,647 A lot of the fat research, well look we saw fat in the coronary arteries 721 00:34:21,772 --> 00:34:24,233 and we thought that fat must be coming from somewhere, it must come from 722 00:34:24,358 --> 00:34:25,901 circulating fat and that must come from 723 00:34:26,026 --> 00:34:28,946 ingested fat, it was a very simplistic kind of idea, 724 00:34:29,071 --> 00:34:34,118 The contrary opinion, the alternative hypothesis 725 00:34:34,243 --> 00:34:36,996 which has been around for, ooh, a couple 726 00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:39,999 of hundred years, is that we get fat 727 00:34:40,124 --> 00:34:43,127 because we eat carbohydrates like pasta 728 00:34:43,252 --> 00:34:45,004 potatoes, bread, they used to be called 729 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:49,883 simple carbohydrates, uhm, now the terminology 730 00:34:50,009 --> 00:34:51,552 is changing to adjust to the fact 731 00:34:51,677 --> 00:34:53,887 that a lot of people think maybe these 732 00:34:54,013 --> 00:34:55,556 starches as my mother called them 733 00:34:55,681 --> 00:34:57,141 are not quite so good for us, 734 00:34:57,266 --> 00:35:01,145 We focused in, just by timing and bad luck 735 00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:04,440 on this idea that saturated fat causes heart disease 736 00:35:04,565 --> 00:35:06,150 and we bought into it even though 737 00:35:06,275 --> 00:35:09,653 the evidence ultimately didn't really support it 738 00:35:09,778 --> 00:35:13,699 and we made everything else we believed 739 00:35:13,824 --> 00:35:17,077 about diet have to be reconciled with that, 740 00:35:18,996 --> 00:35:20,956 [narrator] Dr. Keys singling out of excessive... 741 00:35:27,671 --> 00:35:29,256 In front of us, day by day, are 742 00:35:29,381 --> 00:35:34,011 increasingly more and more very tempting foods, 743 00:35:34,136 --> 00:35:38,140 In the mid-1960s, John Yudkin comes on the scene, he's a British scientist, 744 00:35:38,265 --> 00:35:40,225 He thinks sugar's the problem, 745 00:35:40,351 --> 00:35:42,728 [jaunty music] 746 00:35:43,646 --> 00:35:46,565 When people have heart disease, they don't just have elevated cholesterol, 747 00:35:46,690 --> 00:35:49,443 In fact they often don't have elevated cholesterol, 748 00:35:49,568 --> 00:35:52,529 they have a whole cluster of metabolic abnormalities, 749 00:35:52,655 --> 00:35:55,157 10, 15, 20 things you could measure 750 00:35:55,282 --> 00:35:58,702 and Yudkin was saying if I feed animals sugar 751 00:35:58,827 --> 00:36:00,788 or I feed college students that I'm using 752 00:36:00,913 --> 00:36:02,498 in my experiments, sugar, I could cause 753 00:36:02,623 --> 00:36:04,041 pretty much all of these things 754 00:36:04,166 --> 00:36:05,542 just by giving them a lot of sugar, 755 00:36:05,668 --> 00:36:07,294 [jaunty music] 756 00:36:07,419 --> 00:36:09,838 So you're apt to say 2 or 300 years ago, 757 00:36:09,963 --> 00:36:11,215 the average consumption 758 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,884 of sugar in this country was about 759 00:36:14,009 --> 00:36:16,387 four pounds a year and that's splendid, 760 00:36:16,512 --> 00:36:17,971 I'd be very happy if everybody had 761 00:36:18,097 --> 00:36:19,640 four pounds of sugar a year, 762 00:36:19,765 --> 00:36:21,600 They eat a hundred pounds, 763 00:36:23,143 --> 00:36:24,311 [typewriter clacks] 764 00:36:30,609 --> 00:36:34,113 [narrator] Moreover, many sugar containing foods, cakes, candies, cookies, 765 00:36:34,238 --> 00:36:36,031 chocolate, ice cream, various kinds 766 00:36:36,156 --> 00:36:38,242 of puddings, also contain fat. 767 00:36:38,367 --> 00:36:41,203 You always eat some fat, so if you eat 768 00:36:41,328 --> 00:36:44,123 high carb foods, you raise your blood glucose 769 00:36:44,289 --> 00:36:47,418 you raise your fat storing hormone insulin 770 00:36:47,543 --> 00:36:49,461 and you're gonna store the fat that you eat, 771 00:36:49,586 --> 00:36:51,296 It's all individual how much 772 00:36:51,422 --> 00:36:54,883 you can tolerate, but if you eat more 773 00:36:55,008 --> 00:36:58,011 than your body can tolerate, then you will 774 00:36:58,137 --> 00:37:00,055 most likely gain weight, gain fat, 775 00:37:02,224 --> 00:37:03,267 [typewriter clacks] 776 00:37:14,153 --> 00:37:16,155 And instead of looking at it, 777 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,657 Ancel Keys just jumps right on top of it 778 00:37:18,782 --> 00:37:22,578 in the media and turns this guy into a nut job, 779 00:37:22,703 --> 00:37:25,748 Keys was really a bully when it came to 780 00:37:25,873 --> 00:37:28,167 trying to quash anybody who opposed him, 781 00:37:28,292 --> 00:37:30,169 Ancel Keys wasn't gonna let anyone 782 00:37:30,294 --> 00:37:32,087 come in and rain on his parade, 783 00:37:32,212 --> 00:37:35,758 He published a nine page rebuttal 784 00:37:35,883 --> 00:37:37,843 in a journal called Atherosclerosis, 785 00:37:37,968 --> 00:37:40,763 in print, he said Yudkin is a "mountain of nonsense," 786 00:37:42,389 --> 00:37:44,099 [typewriter clacks] 787 00:37:49,521 --> 00:37:51,482 ...in the etiology of heart disease. 788 00:37:51,607 --> 00:37:53,400 Keys and his colleagues managed 789 00:37:53,525 --> 00:37:56,028 to paint Yudkin as a quack and portray Yudkin 790 00:37:56,153 --> 00:37:58,155 and his sugar theory as quackery 791 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,074 and to say there is absolutely no evidence to support it, 792 00:38:03,035 --> 00:38:04,328 [typewriter clacks] 793 00:38:07,539 --> 00:38:14,463 Keys was more-- had more political influence and more savvy maybe 794 00:38:14,588 --> 00:38:17,674 than Yudkin and somehow, this dietary, and we were 795 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,719 spending money testing the dietary fat hypothesis 796 00:38:20,844 --> 00:38:23,931 so even though the tests weren't confirming it, 797 00:38:24,056 --> 00:38:25,891 the more money they spent, the more people 798 00:38:26,016 --> 00:38:28,644 were wedded to the hypothesis having to be right, 799 00:38:28,769 --> 00:38:31,688 These studies are extremely expensive 800 00:38:31,814 --> 00:38:33,982 and there have been enough good studies done 801 00:38:34,107 --> 00:38:36,401 to support our moderate approach, 802 00:38:36,527 --> 00:38:39,071 which is looking at balanced foods, 803 00:38:39,196 --> 00:38:42,950 vegetables, fruits, grains, and lean meat and dairy products, 804 00:38:43,075 --> 00:38:46,245 The argument once again is it has to be tested 805 00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:48,497 when you believe it's wrong, prima facie, 806 00:38:48,622 --> 00:38:50,207 you're not gonna spend the money to test it, 807 00:38:50,332 --> 00:38:52,459 Why are these nutrition scientist 808 00:38:52,584 --> 00:38:55,045 just not more curious about other ideas? 809 00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:56,713 I was at a conference recently 810 00:38:56,839 --> 00:38:58,465 where we talked about a low carb study 811 00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:00,801 where they reversed the diagnosis 812 00:39:00,926 --> 00:39:04,263 of diabetes for, it was a large university-based study 813 00:39:04,388 --> 00:39:06,682 in just one year, on a very low-carb diet 814 00:39:06,807 --> 00:39:10,143 and one of them said wait what, diabetes reversal, 815 00:39:10,269 --> 00:39:12,771 wow, how'd you do that, can you just explain your study a little bit to us 816 00:39:12,896 --> 00:39:15,232 because that's what we, as nutrition experts 817 00:39:15,357 --> 00:39:16,775 we really need to do in America, 818 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:19,278 [laughs] And I actually got up to ask 819 00:39:19,403 --> 00:39:20,904 a question from the audience I said-- 820 00:39:21,029 --> 00:39:23,574 I said, did you hear that, that was 60% reversal 821 00:39:23,699 --> 00:39:26,702 of diabetes, should that not be headline news 822 00:39:26,827 --> 00:39:28,412 and should you not be curious? 823 00:39:28,537 --> 00:39:30,497 Why are you not even curious about these ideas? 824 00:39:31,248 --> 00:39:32,749 [Vinnie] You know it makes you think of stories 825 00:39:32,875 --> 00:39:34,167 like the McKenzie family, 826 00:39:34,293 --> 00:39:36,086 parents in South Dakota who realized 827 00:39:36,211 --> 00:39:38,422 they had to take matters into their own hands 828 00:39:38,547 --> 00:39:41,300 when their son lost five pounds in five days, 829 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,177 I called the doctor that morning and I explained that I thought my son 830 00:39:44,303 --> 00:39:46,722 had rapidly lost weight and something was wrong 831 00:39:46,847 --> 00:39:48,307 and we knew within five minutes 832 00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:50,225 of him doing a urine analysis test 833 00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:52,269 that there was sugar in his urine 834 00:39:52,394 --> 00:39:54,855 and we were escorted to the hospital 835 00:39:54,980 --> 00:39:56,648 to learn how to manage our new life, 836 00:39:57,399 --> 00:39:58,901 [upbeat music] 837 00:39:59,026 --> 00:40:00,444 [Matt] We both concluded that we were 838 00:40:00,569 --> 00:40:02,946 gonna make drastic changes in our diet, 839 00:40:03,071 --> 00:40:04,865 reducing carbohydrate intake, 840 00:40:06,158 --> 00:40:07,868 Shortly thereafter, we were told 841 00:40:07,993 --> 00:40:09,536 that we didn't need to do that, 842 00:40:09,661 --> 00:40:12,748 that we could feed our son recently diagnosed 843 00:40:12,873 --> 00:40:15,042 with Type 1 diabetes whatever he wanted to eat, 844 00:40:15,167 --> 00:40:16,919 Take a look, 845 00:40:17,044 --> 00:40:18,921 [Bethany] I'm trusting these people, who are now 846 00:40:19,046 --> 00:40:20,339 in charge of caring for my son, 847 00:40:20,464 --> 00:40:22,341 and they're telling me give him pancakes 848 00:40:22,466 --> 00:40:24,635 and give him french fries and cupcakes 849 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,054 and pizza, because now that your kid 850 00:40:27,179 --> 00:40:29,932 has this disease, his life is pretty crummy already 851 00:40:30,057 --> 00:40:31,516 and the worst thing you could do 852 00:40:31,642 --> 00:40:33,101 as a parent is to try and change his food, 853 00:40:33,226 --> 00:40:35,979 I fed my kid the exact prescribed amount 854 00:40:36,104 --> 00:40:39,191 of carbohydrates, I pre-bolused his insulin 855 00:40:39,316 --> 00:40:41,443 I put a continuous glucose monitor on him 856 00:40:41,568 --> 00:40:43,612 I bought him a diabetes alert dog, 857 00:40:43,737 --> 00:40:46,073 I literally did everything in my own capacity 858 00:40:47,157 --> 00:40:50,077 to follow the guidelines and manage his disease 859 00:40:50,202 --> 00:40:51,328 and I failed miserably, 860 00:40:51,453 --> 00:40:53,413 -[Matt] Riv? -[kid wails] 861 00:40:55,958 --> 00:40:59,086 Do you want the yogurt, the tablets, or the gel? 862 00:40:59,795 --> 00:41:02,172 [Bethany] I put a big message out in the social media groups 863 00:41:02,297 --> 00:41:04,299 that I'm connected to in the diabetes community 864 00:41:04,424 --> 00:41:07,302 and I asked, how are you people achieving 865 00:41:07,427 --> 00:41:08,971 normal blood sugars, what are you doing? 866 00:41:09,096 --> 00:41:11,014 And about every fifth answer I got 867 00:41:11,139 --> 00:41:12,391 was that these people were changing 868 00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:15,394 their children's diet and implementing 869 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,687 a very, very low carb diet, 870 00:41:18,772 --> 00:41:20,357 We removed all the processed carbs, 871 00:41:20,482 --> 00:41:24,027 the flour, the sugar, the grains, the fruit 872 00:41:24,152 --> 00:41:25,862 anything that would spike his blood sugar 873 00:41:25,988 --> 00:41:27,906 and so the next appointment we had 874 00:41:28,031 --> 00:41:29,950 with our endocrinologist I skipped in there 875 00:41:30,075 --> 00:41:31,159 like I had won the lottery, 876 00:41:31,284 --> 00:41:32,953 Oh my goodness, I stumbled upon 877 00:41:33,078 --> 00:41:36,081 a low-carb diet and look at my son's blood sugars 878 00:41:36,206 --> 00:41:38,208 and during that appointment, our very 879 00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:40,502 kind-hearted doctor looked at me 880 00:41:40,627 --> 00:41:42,838 and told me my son was going to resent me 881 00:41:42,963 --> 00:41:45,132 for the rest of his life, that this way 882 00:41:45,257 --> 00:41:47,426 of eating is not sustainable, that I'm 883 00:41:47,592 --> 00:41:49,928 subjecting my son to an eating disorder 884 00:41:50,053 --> 00:41:51,930 and he also handed me a business card 885 00:41:52,055 --> 00:41:55,058 to go see a therapist, uhm, because he thought 886 00:41:55,183 --> 00:41:57,185 maybe I was struggling with some things 887 00:41:57,310 --> 00:42:00,355 and had some issues for wanting to do this 888 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,857 for my son and to change his diet, 889 00:42:01,982 --> 00:42:04,401 And I'm told to follow these guidelines 890 00:42:04,526 --> 00:42:06,445 because without those carbohydrates, 891 00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:09,531 my child won't grow properly and his brain function 892 00:42:09,656 --> 00:42:11,825 will be compromised, so when you're a parent 893 00:42:11,950 --> 00:42:13,452 of a Type 1 and you're told 894 00:42:13,577 --> 00:42:15,454 the American Diabetes Association, 895 00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:18,248 this large governing body, that must know 896 00:42:18,373 --> 00:42:19,875 exactly what we're up against, 897 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,003 they're recommending this, that's intimidating, 898 00:42:24,629 --> 00:42:26,465 We either had to either make a change 899 00:42:26,590 --> 00:42:28,800 or accept mediocre care, 900 00:42:28,925 --> 00:42:31,553 I'm an orthopedic surgeon, it seems now 901 00:42:31,678 --> 00:42:34,222 as if it's the patients that are trying 902 00:42:34,347 --> 00:42:36,683 to make the medical community aware 903 00:42:36,808 --> 00:42:38,560 of what they already know of what 904 00:42:38,685 --> 00:42:42,564 the patients know, because they have tried 905 00:42:42,689 --> 00:42:46,068 to follow the rules as given to them and they failed, 906 00:42:46,193 --> 00:42:48,695 When somebody comes to me with the belief 907 00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:51,990 that they-- and they tell me, I believe your son 908 00:42:52,115 --> 00:42:53,492 is gonna do better if you feed them 909 00:42:53,617 --> 00:42:57,037 more carbohydrates, I know they're wrong, 910 00:42:57,162 --> 00:42:59,372 And when it comes to my son, I'm gonna do 911 00:42:59,498 --> 00:43:01,917 what I know as opposed to what they believe, 912 00:43:03,251 --> 00:43:05,879 Our son went from taking 45 to 50 913 00:43:06,004 --> 00:43:09,716 units of insulin every day to maybe 15 units of insulin, 914 00:43:09,841 --> 00:43:12,260 If you extrapolate that over every child 915 00:43:12,385 --> 00:43:13,970 with this disease, you're gonna understand 916 00:43:14,096 --> 00:43:16,181 that that's gonna have a marked effect 917 00:43:16,306 --> 00:43:18,934 on the profitability of the disease, 918 00:43:19,059 --> 00:43:22,145 I think we underestimate peoples ability 919 00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:24,564 to make a change, and I think if there were 920 00:43:25,482 --> 00:43:27,901 doctors and nurses and dieticians 921 00:43:28,026 --> 00:43:29,528 who were willing to give patients 922 00:43:29,694 --> 00:43:31,113 that option, I think the face 923 00:43:31,238 --> 00:43:32,489 of diabetes would be different, 924 00:43:32,614 --> 00:43:34,533 We're a very weird culture, because 925 00:43:34,658 --> 00:43:37,410 we have an endless amount of energy 926 00:43:37,536 --> 00:43:39,287 to talk about almost everything, 927 00:43:39,412 --> 00:43:42,916 but when it comes to the core issues 928 00:43:43,041 --> 00:43:45,752 and the ones that just effect everything, 929 00:43:45,877 --> 00:43:48,421 such as family or such as diet, 930 00:43:48,547 --> 00:43:52,050 we have-- you know, just went through an election, 931 00:43:52,175 --> 00:43:54,845 We talked about everything, but no one 932 00:43:54,970 --> 00:43:57,681 ever talked about diet or family or any of this stuff, 933 00:43:57,806 --> 00:44:01,434 Now you have kids with Type 2 diabetes you have fatty liver disease, 934 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,645 you have sleep apnea, none of this stuff 935 00:44:03,770 --> 00:44:06,815 existed before and if you think it's just old people 936 00:44:06,940 --> 00:44:09,401 using this, it's getting younger and younger 937 00:44:09,526 --> 00:44:11,278 -and younger, - It's an epidemic 938 00:44:11,403 --> 00:44:13,697 and it's one of those things, like hey, 939 00:44:13,822 --> 00:44:15,740 powers that be, hey folks in charge, 940 00:44:15,866 --> 00:44:18,201 let's, this is gonna break the bank, 941 00:44:18,326 --> 00:44:22,247 How do people scream all day about Medicare 942 00:44:22,372 --> 00:44:24,958 -and this doesn't come up? - It never comes up, 943 00:44:25,083 --> 00:44:26,668 Because it's not sexy, it doesn't work, 944 00:44:26,793 --> 00:44:29,171 You want votes, telling people 945 00:44:29,296 --> 00:44:33,175 like hard news, like, hey mom, you're poisoning your kid 946 00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,510 get your shit together, no votes for you, 947 00:44:37,888 --> 00:44:40,265 The current recommendations, it started in 948 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:43,393 the late 60s in response to a documentary 949 00:44:43,518 --> 00:44:46,271 that aired on CBS News called Hunger in America, 950 00:44:46,771 --> 00:44:48,607 [reporter] This spring, a private agency, 951 00:44:48,773 --> 00:44:50,609 The Citizens' Board of Inquiry, 952 00:44:50,775 --> 00:44:52,861 released an exhaustive report claiming 953 00:44:52,986 --> 00:44:56,239 that serious hunger exists many places 954 00:44:56,364 --> 00:44:58,742 in the United States, out of a total population 955 00:44:58,867 --> 00:45:01,036 of 200 million, the report states, 956 00:45:01,161 --> 00:45:03,788 30 million Americans are impoverished, 957 00:45:03,914 --> 00:45:07,250 With family income below $3000 a year, 958 00:45:07,375 --> 00:45:09,252 Five million of these people are helped 959 00:45:09,377 --> 00:45:12,172 by two existing Federal food programs, 960 00:45:12,297 --> 00:45:14,841 Now, a new figure must be added, 961 00:45:14,966 --> 00:45:17,219 Of the 30 million who are impoverished, 962 00:45:17,344 --> 00:45:19,846 10 million Americans, whether or not 963 00:45:19,971 --> 00:45:22,098 they are reached by Federal aid, are hungry, 964 00:45:22,224 --> 00:45:24,226 The Federal food program might be 965 00:45:24,351 --> 00:45:25,810 better administered by the Department 966 00:45:25,936 --> 00:45:27,896 of Health, Education and Welfare 967 00:45:28,021 --> 00:45:30,649 or by a special commission whose only concern 968 00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:33,568 would be to see that hungry Americans are fed, 969 00:45:33,693 --> 00:45:37,155 This leads right to 1968 and the McGovern Committee, 970 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,865 public calls to address the issue 971 00:45:38,990 --> 00:45:40,951 of hunger had been building, ever since 972 00:45:41,076 --> 00:45:43,036 Robert F. Kennedy had toured the devastated 973 00:45:43,161 --> 00:45:44,537 slums of Mississippi, 974 00:45:44,663 --> 00:45:46,748 It's obviously as great a poverty 975 00:45:46,873 --> 00:45:48,875 as we've had and they're going to lead 976 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,877 a very difficult, unhappy life 977 00:45:51,002 --> 00:45:52,796 for the rest of their existence, 978 00:45:52,921 --> 00:45:54,965 [Vinnie] But it was George McGovern, the Senator 979 00:45:55,090 --> 00:45:57,050 from South Dakota who would head a committee 980 00:45:57,175 --> 00:46:00,178 that started in 1968, privy to the poverty 981 00:46:00,303 --> 00:46:01,888 that the nation was now aware of, 982 00:46:02,013 --> 00:46:03,682 the former director of Food for peace 983 00:46:03,807 --> 00:46:05,976 in JFK's administration was intent 984 00:46:06,101 --> 00:46:08,812 on bringing change that would eventually effect all of us, 985 00:46:08,937 --> 00:46:13,483 It's always bothered me to see hungry people 986 00:46:13,608 --> 00:46:15,694 in the world, I like to eat, 987 00:46:17,028 --> 00:46:20,407 If we are to save ourselves in this country 988 00:46:20,532 --> 00:46:23,618 it seems to me that a radical restructuring 989 00:46:23,743 --> 00:46:28,206 of our policies and priorities is absolutely necessary. 990 00:46:28,832 --> 00:46:31,793 [solemn music] 991 00:46:31,918 --> 00:46:34,421 [narrator] There is nothing more to say, really. 992 00:46:34,546 --> 00:46:38,049 Senator Kennedy died at 1.44 this evening. 993 00:46:38,174 --> 00:46:39,301 [gunshots] 994 00:46:41,177 --> 00:46:42,679 We've got to draw the line at violence, 995 00:46:42,804 --> 00:46:44,931 so I have mixed emotions, I'm supporting 996 00:46:45,056 --> 00:46:47,225 the president as he tries to bring this war to a close, 997 00:46:48,226 --> 00:46:49,936 [Paul] It was quite sad, really, to break up 998 00:46:50,061 --> 00:46:52,314 with the Beatles, 'cause to see it just fall apart was sad, 999 00:46:55,066 --> 00:46:56,359 [reporter] We have a mystery story 1000 00:46:56,484 --> 00:46:58,111 out of Washington, five people 1001 00:46:58,236 --> 00:46:59,738 have been arrested and charged with breaking 1002 00:46:59,863 --> 00:47:01,323 into the headquarters of the Democratic National 1003 00:47:01,448 --> 00:47:02,741 Committee in the middle of the night. 1004 00:47:02,866 --> 00:47:06,036 When you think of 1972, 1973, 1005 00:47:06,161 --> 00:47:08,580 we're still in Vietnam, it's not a popular war, 1006 00:47:08,705 --> 00:47:13,626 -[crowd chanting] - Then 1972 comes around and we have Watergate, 1007 00:47:13,752 --> 00:47:15,628 people have got to know whether or not 1008 00:47:15,754 --> 00:47:18,089 their president's a crook, well I'm not a crook, 1009 00:47:18,214 --> 00:47:21,634 people were just in a haze about diet, 1010 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,304 No one was really paying attention to this McGovern Committee, 1011 00:47:24,429 --> 00:47:26,306 we had bigger problems, 1012 00:47:26,431 --> 00:47:28,892 -[crowd cheers] - This complacency at the time 1013 00:47:29,017 --> 00:47:31,644 is what allowed these health myths to seep in, 1014 00:47:32,896 --> 00:47:34,773 As you know, I represent all sorts 1015 00:47:34,898 --> 00:47:37,359 of delicious things, greasy bacon, 1016 00:47:38,610 --> 00:47:41,738 potato chips, french fries, potatoes, 1017 00:47:41,863 --> 00:47:45,116 fatty meats and gobs of butter on everything, 1018 00:47:45,241 --> 00:47:47,452 -[crowd cheers] - Now as you know, us fats 1019 00:47:47,577 --> 00:47:49,412 separately are just little guys, 1020 00:47:49,537 --> 00:47:51,956 but put us all together and what do you have? 1021 00:47:52,082 --> 00:47:53,291 You have millions of calories, 1022 00:47:53,416 --> 00:47:54,959 that's what, I have to store those 1023 00:47:55,085 --> 00:47:57,379 calories as fat and I can't take it anymore, 1024 00:47:57,504 --> 00:48:00,298 I'm getting bigger and bigger and bigger! 1025 00:48:00,423 --> 00:48:02,050 And the bigger he gets, the harder 1026 00:48:02,175 --> 00:48:03,802 his heart cells have to work, Mr, Fat, 1027 00:48:03,927 --> 00:48:04,844 you're a real killer! 1028 00:48:06,137 --> 00:48:08,181 [Vinnie] You know, I don't know the answer, but why is it 1029 00:48:08,306 --> 00:48:10,183 whenever a new study comes out, it's always 1030 00:48:10,308 --> 00:48:13,269 talking about how food is gonna kill you? 1031 00:48:13,395 --> 00:48:14,813 I think that's a major misdirection 1032 00:48:14,979 --> 00:48:17,232 to what we should be focused on, 1033 00:48:17,357 --> 00:48:19,734 Food should be used to prevent illness, 1034 00:48:19,859 --> 00:48:22,153 not to just help reverse it once it's too late, 1035 00:48:22,278 --> 00:48:23,822 One of the areas we haven't talked about 1036 00:48:23,988 --> 00:48:25,824 until recently, is how food can affect 1037 00:48:25,949 --> 00:48:27,075 your brain health, 1038 00:48:27,951 --> 00:48:29,828 [Dr. Ede] I became interested in mental health 1039 00:48:29,953 --> 00:48:31,830 and the connection between mental health 1040 00:48:31,996 --> 00:48:33,790 and diet after I had developed a lot 1041 00:48:33,915 --> 00:48:36,584 of my own health problems and had changed 1042 00:48:36,709 --> 00:48:39,295 my diet and discovered that diet 1043 00:48:39,421 --> 00:48:41,548 had a lot more to do with health 1044 00:48:41,673 --> 00:48:44,717 and mental health than I had ever been taught that it had, 1045 00:48:44,843 --> 00:48:46,553 In my early 40s, about ten years ago, 1046 00:48:46,678 --> 00:48:48,471 I developed a number of mysterious symptoms 1047 00:48:48,596 --> 00:48:50,473 that I think a lot of people, especially 1048 00:48:50,598 --> 00:48:52,475 middle aged women will identify with, 1049 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,728 so things like chronic pain, fibromyalgia, 1050 00:48:55,854 --> 00:48:59,357 IBS, chronic fatigue, migraines, 1051 00:48:59,482 --> 00:49:02,485 uh, lots of different symptoms that all 1052 00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:04,737 of my very smart Harvard-affiliated doctors 1053 00:49:04,863 --> 00:49:07,198 couldn't help me with, After about six months 1054 00:49:07,323 --> 00:49:09,868 of trial and error, I arrived at this diet 1055 00:49:09,993 --> 00:49:12,704 that was completely upside down 1056 00:49:12,829 --> 00:49:14,622 from what I had been taught was good for me, 1057 00:49:14,747 --> 00:49:16,708 It was basically a mostly meat diet, 1058 00:49:16,833 --> 00:49:19,335 high in meat and fat and cholesterol 1059 00:49:19,461 --> 00:49:21,963 and when I arrived at that diet, 1060 00:49:22,088 --> 00:49:23,465 all of the symptoms that I had been 1061 00:49:23,590 --> 00:49:26,676 struggling with completely went away 1062 00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:30,722 and I thought, you know, this diet actually is also 1063 00:49:30,847 --> 00:49:32,223 improving my mental health and I'm 1064 00:49:32,348 --> 00:49:34,476 a psychiatrist, the most powerful way 1065 00:49:34,601 --> 00:49:35,894 to change your brain chemistry 1066 00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:37,520 would be through food, because that's where 1067 00:49:37,645 --> 00:49:39,731 brain chemicals come from in the first place, 1068 00:49:39,856 --> 00:49:42,025 If you're getting most of your sugar 1069 00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:44,402 and most of your glucose from the 1070 00:49:44,527 --> 00:49:46,404 outside of the body, you run the risk 1071 00:49:46,529 --> 00:49:49,407 of getting spikes, uh, peaks and troughs 1072 00:49:49,532 --> 00:49:51,159 in your blood sugar and insulin level 1073 00:49:51,284 --> 00:49:53,995 and those can destabilize brain chemistry, 1074 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,914 so those can create mood swings, 1075 00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:58,917 insomnia, irritability, changes 1076 00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:00,752 in appetite throughout the course of the day, 1077 00:50:00,877 --> 00:50:02,420 When you eat a ketogenic diet, 1078 00:50:02,545 --> 00:50:05,423 you're using fat primarily for energy 1079 00:50:05,548 --> 00:50:08,885 and the brain is using, to a large extent, 1080 00:50:09,010 --> 00:50:10,553 ketones instead of glucose, 1081 00:50:10,678 --> 00:50:13,890 Today, if you're anywhere near Google 1082 00:50:14,015 --> 00:50:15,308 you will learn that [laughs] 1083 00:50:15,433 --> 00:50:17,101 This is known as dietary ketosis, 1084 00:50:17,227 --> 00:50:19,938 [somber music] 1085 00:50:20,104 --> 00:50:24,734 Most healthcare professionals are familiar with ketoacidosis, and that's a state 1086 00:50:24,859 --> 00:50:26,694 where the body is out of control, 1087 00:50:26,819 --> 00:50:28,530 Diabetes it out of control, 1088 00:50:28,655 --> 00:50:30,657 Blood glucose is through the roof, 1089 00:50:30,782 --> 00:50:32,450 insulin is not able to keep up with 1090 00:50:32,575 --> 00:50:34,744 this glucose derangement and so that's 1091 00:50:34,869 --> 00:50:37,121 a life threatening state when you're 1092 00:50:37,247 --> 00:50:39,207 a Type 2 diabetic of control, 1093 00:50:39,332 --> 00:50:43,044 Nutritional ketosis is quite a different scenario, 1094 00:50:43,169 --> 00:50:46,172 Blood sugar's absolutely under control, 1095 00:50:46,297 --> 00:50:48,341 the patient is healthy in every single way 1096 00:50:48,466 --> 00:50:52,220 electrolytes, insulin, glucose, perfectly, perfectly controlled, 1097 00:50:52,345 --> 00:50:55,139 We have now trained the body to switch over 1098 00:50:55,265 --> 00:50:58,142 from burning carbohydrate as the primary fuel, 1099 00:50:58,268 --> 00:51:01,145 Now the individual becomes fat adapted 1100 00:51:01,271 --> 00:51:05,233 and they use fat as the primary source of energy 1101 00:51:05,358 --> 00:51:07,527 and that's really the difference between 1102 00:51:07,652 --> 00:51:10,572 a very unhealthy and a very healthy state, 1103 00:51:10,697 --> 00:51:13,533 [beeps and breathing] 1104 00:51:13,658 --> 00:51:18,997 We had a scientific question in the 1960s where the researchers asked the wrong question, 1105 00:51:19,122 --> 00:51:20,999 but they were questions we needed answered, 1106 00:51:21,165 --> 00:51:23,376 We know that the way you gain weight 1107 00:51:23,501 --> 00:51:27,964 is you take in more calories than you don't-- than you burn, 1108 00:51:28,089 --> 00:51:30,216 And those calories can be fat or they 1109 00:51:30,341 --> 00:51:31,426 can be carbohydrate, 1110 00:51:31,551 --> 00:51:33,177 And so they get this hypothesis 1111 00:51:33,303 --> 00:51:35,013 which sounds reasonable that fat people 1112 00:51:35,138 --> 00:51:36,723 get fat because they accumulate a little 1113 00:51:36,848 --> 00:51:40,143 of extra calories every day and we could get 1114 00:51:40,268 --> 00:51:42,020 back to this by not asking how much 1115 00:51:42,186 --> 00:51:44,022 extra calories, they don't have to really 1116 00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:46,107 confront the problems with the hypothesis 1117 00:51:46,232 --> 00:51:48,776 and that becomes the theory ever since, 1118 00:51:48,901 --> 00:51:50,528 The history of science once again, 1119 00:51:50,653 --> 00:51:53,031 is full of common sensical facts 1120 00:51:53,197 --> 00:51:55,366 that turned out to be dead wrong when we did the science, 1121 00:51:55,491 --> 00:51:58,661 You're certain, you use words like it proves 1122 00:51:58,786 --> 00:52:03,207 when you look at the data, it either isn't there, or we just didn't do the experiment, 1123 00:52:03,333 --> 00:52:05,793 [Vinnie] Speaking of experiments, here's a timeline 1124 00:52:05,918 --> 00:52:08,046 of events that happened with the McGovern Committee, 1125 00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:10,173 After a year of fighting for funding, 1126 00:52:10,298 --> 00:52:13,301 the committee operations began in 1969, 1127 00:52:13,426 --> 00:52:15,261 There were Democrats and Republicans 1128 00:52:15,386 --> 00:52:16,929 including future presidential candidates, 1129 00:52:17,055 --> 00:52:20,308 George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Bob Dole, 1130 00:52:20,433 --> 00:52:22,060 The initial goals of the committee 1131 00:52:22,185 --> 00:52:24,145 centered around hunger and malnutrition 1132 00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:26,522 and this led to the legislation in 1970 1133 00:52:26,648 --> 00:52:28,149 with principles of free food stamps 1134 00:52:28,274 --> 00:52:30,360 and nationwide standards for eligibility, 1135 00:52:32,236 --> 00:52:34,781 It was in 1971 that the committee expanded 1136 00:52:34,906 --> 00:52:36,991 to focus on eating habits in poor neighborhoods, 1137 00:52:37,116 --> 00:52:40,411 but in 1972, this extremely pressing issue 1138 00:52:40,536 --> 00:52:41,996 was put on hold so that McGovern 1139 00:52:42,121 --> 00:52:44,874 could run for president, When he lost 49 States 1140 00:52:44,999 --> 00:52:46,250 to Richard Nixon, who would eventually 1141 00:52:46,376 --> 00:52:48,711 resign and be replaced by this guy, 1142 00:52:48,836 --> 00:52:50,546 it was back to fixing America's health, 1143 00:53:05,687 --> 00:53:08,648 Unfortunately, dietary guidelines, were based 1144 00:53:08,773 --> 00:53:12,485 on the singular focus to lower cholesterol, 1145 00:53:12,610 --> 00:53:14,278 Why we're treating heart disease 1146 00:53:14,404 --> 00:53:16,698 by supposedly lowering bad cholesterol, 1147 00:53:16,823 --> 00:53:18,783 we're gonna help people lose weight, 1148 00:53:19,909 --> 00:53:22,286 [Vinnie] If you tell a public of 250 million people 1149 00:53:22,412 --> 00:53:23,955 what they're eating is gonna kill em 1150 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,331 they're gonna probably listen, 1151 00:53:26,374 --> 00:53:27,959 And the unintended consequence is that 1152 00:53:28,084 --> 00:53:29,961 someone is gonna step in and take advantage 1153 00:53:30,086 --> 00:53:32,547 of these people when it doesn't work, right? 1154 00:53:32,672 --> 00:53:34,132 [dramatic music] 1155 00:53:34,298 --> 00:53:36,342 Coincidentally, drug companies were spending 1156 00:53:36,467 --> 00:53:40,138 millions of dollars developing drugs to target LBL, 1157 00:53:40,304 --> 00:53:42,890 [Ivor] In the 80s and 90s, a class of drugs 1158 00:53:43,015 --> 00:53:44,434 was invented called the statins, 1159 00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,478 and these drugs did lower the cholesterol 1160 00:53:47,603 --> 00:53:49,731 very effectively and they also were shown 1161 00:53:49,856 --> 00:53:51,149 to lower heart disease rates, 1162 00:53:51,315 --> 00:53:53,151 But the question that's probably more 1163 00:53:53,317 --> 00:53:55,361 interesting to me, that I think should be 1164 00:53:55,486 --> 00:53:58,114 more interesting to you, is does it help you live longer? 1165 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,324 It might reduce heart attacks 1166 00:54:00,450 --> 00:54:03,453 by 20 or 30 percent at best, and it doesn't 1167 00:54:03,578 --> 00:54:05,538 really reduce mortality much, 1168 00:54:05,663 --> 00:54:07,498 We like simple answers that we have 1169 00:54:07,623 --> 00:54:09,667 treatments for, but that's not where 1170 00:54:09,792 --> 00:54:13,880 the best evaluation and treatment for heart disease is, 1171 00:54:14,005 --> 00:54:16,007 [Vinnie] It's absolutely amazing to me, 1172 00:54:16,132 --> 00:54:18,426 the trajectory of statins and low fat diets 1173 00:54:18,551 --> 00:54:19,844 with everything we have today stem 1174 00:54:19,969 --> 00:54:21,596 from a Committee that was focused 1175 00:54:21,721 --> 00:54:23,264 on poverty and people who weren't 1176 00:54:23,389 --> 00:54:25,433 getting enough to eat, And somehow 1177 00:54:25,558 --> 00:54:28,478 cholesterol got into the mix, thanks to Ancel Keys, 1178 00:54:28,603 --> 00:54:30,313 - And in a complete U-turn,,, -[car screeches] 1179 00:54:30,438 --> 00:54:32,857 ,,,in 1974, they expanded the committee 1180 00:54:32,982 --> 00:54:34,609 to focus on overnutrition, 1181 00:54:34,734 --> 00:54:36,652 The very recommendations made 1182 00:54:36,778 --> 00:54:38,821 led to people eating way too much 1183 00:54:38,946 --> 00:54:41,199 of the wrong kind of food, so now we have 1184 00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:42,784 just the opposite problem, we don't have 1185 00:54:42,909 --> 00:54:46,162 a hunger problem, we have an obesity epidemic, 1186 00:54:47,622 --> 00:54:49,415 -[solemn music] [narrator] The Senate Committee 1187 00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:51,876 finally issued a set of dietary goals 1188 00:54:52,001 --> 00:54:55,880 in December 1977, the McGovern Committee 1189 00:54:56,005 --> 00:54:58,174 issued a set of nutritional guidelines 1190 00:54:58,299 --> 00:55:00,593 for all Americans, intended to battle 1191 00:55:00,718 --> 00:55:02,929 heart disease, cancers, strokes, 1192 00:55:03,054 --> 00:55:04,806 high blood pressure, obesity. 1193 00:55:04,931 --> 00:55:07,225 In the dietary guidelines for Americans, 1194 00:55:07,391 --> 00:55:10,228 they recommend fewer calories, less fat, 1195 00:55:10,353 --> 00:55:13,022 less saturated fat, less cholesterol, 1196 00:55:13,147 --> 00:55:14,941 more poly-unsaturated fat. 1197 00:55:15,066 --> 00:55:18,444 All in favor of nominating vegetable oils, say aye, 1198 00:55:18,569 --> 00:55:20,446 [all] Aye, 1199 00:55:20,571 --> 00:55:22,240 [narrator] Less sugar, less salt, 1200 00:55:22,365 --> 00:55:24,242 more fiber, more starchy food. 1201 00:55:24,367 --> 00:55:25,910 The Committee's original report 1202 00:55:26,035 --> 00:55:27,829 urged Americans to reduce the risk 1203 00:55:27,954 --> 00:55:30,206 of heart attacks by reducing their intake 1204 00:55:30,331 --> 00:55:33,334 of cholesterol, down to the equivalent of about one egg a day, 1205 00:55:33,459 --> 00:55:35,002 [Vinnie] This great experiment we were doing 1206 00:55:35,127 --> 00:55:37,463 with tax dollars seemed to have one idea 1207 00:55:37,588 --> 00:55:40,925 repeated over and over, cholesterol is bad, cholesterol is bad, 1208 00:55:41,050 --> 00:55:42,927 On its own or in conjunction with other things, 1209 00:55:43,052 --> 00:55:44,554 One way to look at it, is that 1210 00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,223 saturated fats are healthy when you're not 1211 00:55:47,348 --> 00:55:49,892 eating carbohydrates, or that saturated fat 1212 00:55:50,017 --> 00:55:52,353 was never unhealthy all along, 1213 00:55:52,478 --> 00:55:54,272 but that gets you into the realm 1214 00:55:54,438 --> 00:55:57,024 of you're telling people that what they've believed, is wrong, 1215 00:55:57,149 --> 00:55:59,277 [Vinnie] As time has gone on, both doctors 1216 00:55:59,443 --> 00:56:01,779 and private citizens have done their own experiments, 1217 00:56:01,904 --> 00:56:03,781 As a software engineer, I look a lot 1218 00:56:03,906 --> 00:56:06,701 at networks, Networks are basically 1219 00:56:06,826 --> 00:56:09,203 objects talking to each other and a lot 1220 00:56:09,328 --> 00:56:10,955 of understanding a network is kind of like 1221 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,791 understanding a brain, no one cell in the brain 1222 00:56:13,916 --> 00:56:16,168 controls your whole body, and actually 1223 00:56:16,294 --> 00:56:18,170 cholesterol was part of a larger 1224 00:56:18,296 --> 00:56:20,131 network of objects and how it is 1225 00:56:20,256 --> 00:56:22,967 that they can move about to provide us with what we need, 1226 00:56:23,092 --> 00:56:24,385 [Vinnie] Another thing we don't talk about 1227 00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:26,262 is how complicated the human body is, 1228 00:56:26,387 --> 00:56:27,680 For the Government to even recommend 1229 00:56:27,805 --> 00:56:29,390 what you should be eating in the first place 1230 00:56:29,515 --> 00:56:31,601 is one thing, but for them to do it 1231 00:56:31,726 --> 00:56:33,561 in such a simplistic way, is another, 1232 00:56:33,686 --> 00:56:35,146 There were certain scientists that 1233 00:56:35,271 --> 00:56:36,981 had some hypothesis and they said 1234 00:56:37,106 --> 00:56:39,150 well some of the stuff we're looking at 1235 00:56:39,275 --> 00:56:41,694 is leaning towards red meat might be 1236 00:56:41,819 --> 00:56:45,281 bad for your heart, the Commission would say well, what do you think? 1237 00:56:45,406 --> 00:56:47,325 [reporter] Doctors took issue with that at the hearing 1238 00:56:47,450 --> 00:56:49,327 saying that eight studies involving 1239 00:56:49,452 --> 00:56:51,787 five thousand patients failed to show 1240 00:56:51,913 --> 00:56:53,331 hard medical evidence that diet 1241 00:56:53,456 --> 00:56:55,333 has anything to do with heart attacks. 1242 00:56:55,458 --> 00:56:57,835 I pleaded in my report and will plead again 1243 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,504 orally here for more research on the problem 1244 00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:02,632 before we make announcements to the American public, 1245 00:57:03,674 --> 00:57:07,011 [Vinnie] Yes, before you make announcements to the public, you should have data 1246 00:57:07,136 --> 00:57:10,723 that proves what you're saying, Maybe like Dave Feldman did, 1247 00:57:10,848 --> 00:57:15,353 My story's a bit interesting, I found that I could move my cholesterol 1248 00:57:15,478 --> 00:57:18,731 up and down with the dietary fat that I ate, 1249 00:57:18,856 --> 00:57:21,943 The more fat I ate, the lower my LDL-C, 1250 00:57:22,068 --> 00:57:25,237 The less fat I ate, the higher my LDL-C, 1251 00:57:25,363 --> 00:57:26,822 [dramatic music] 1252 00:57:26,948 --> 00:57:28,783 [Vinnie] On a three day diet of over 1253 00:57:28,908 --> 00:57:32,036 5000 calories and 450 grams of fat, 1254 00:57:32,161 --> 00:57:34,538 he lowered every marker of cholesterol, 1255 00:57:34,664 --> 00:57:36,248 I eventually got a number of other people 1256 00:57:36,374 --> 00:57:38,167 to replicate this, the success rate 1257 00:57:38,292 --> 00:57:40,378 is somewhere around 85% of those people 1258 00:57:40,503 --> 00:57:41,963 when on a low carb high fat diet, 1259 00:57:42,088 --> 00:57:44,924 Fatty cheeses, fatty meats, fatty nuts 1260 00:57:45,049 --> 00:57:47,802 and in doing so, even though their calories 1261 00:57:47,927 --> 00:57:49,261 increase substantially, even though 1262 00:57:49,387 --> 00:57:52,014 their saturated fat just jumps through the roof, 1263 00:57:52,139 --> 00:57:55,643 their LDL-C and their total cholesterol plummeted, 1264 00:57:55,768 --> 00:57:57,395 It's a very unintuitive, but sure enough 1265 00:57:57,561 --> 00:58:01,399 the more fat they would eat, the lower their LDL-C, 1266 00:58:01,524 --> 00:58:03,359 [Vinnie] Dave Feldman is not a doctor at all, 1267 00:58:03,484 --> 00:58:07,154 This guy took all of the science that was available 1268 00:58:07,279 --> 00:58:09,490 and figured it out, yet members 1269 00:58:09,615 --> 00:58:11,117 of a publicly funded Committee 1270 00:58:11,242 --> 00:58:12,827 took ten years to find nothing and when 1271 00:58:12,952 --> 00:58:15,287 they were pressured to change recommendations 1272 00:58:15,413 --> 00:58:16,664 with no science to back it up 1273 00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:18,416 they ran around in circles for a while 1274 00:58:18,541 --> 00:58:19,667 and came out with the same report 1275 00:58:19,792 --> 00:58:21,335 but this time they said, oh, you can 1276 00:58:21,460 --> 00:58:23,421 have some meat and some salt, 1277 00:58:23,546 --> 00:58:25,589 I would only argue that Senators 1278 00:58:25,715 --> 00:58:28,968 don't have the luxury that a research scientist does 1279 00:58:29,093 --> 00:58:32,430 of waiting until every last shred of evidence is in, 1280 00:58:32,555 --> 00:58:34,932 [Vinnie] So there you have it, the national advice 1281 00:58:35,057 --> 00:58:37,643 that everything you see today is based on, 1282 00:58:37,768 --> 00:58:41,313 That report was then taken over 1283 00:58:41,439 --> 00:58:43,858 to become Government-- official Government policy 1284 00:58:43,983 --> 00:58:46,360 so it went over to the US Department of Agriculture 1285 00:58:46,485 --> 00:58:50,114 and by 1980, they came out with the policy 1286 00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:53,200 which was the dietary guidelines for all Americans, 1287 00:58:53,325 --> 00:58:55,745 I think it's audacious that the Government 1288 00:58:55,870 --> 00:58:58,581 based on very weak evidence should tell 1289 00:58:58,706 --> 00:59:01,542 Americans what to eat, a healthy population at the time, 1290 00:59:01,667 --> 00:59:03,711 [Vinnie] How do you tell some guy from the Midwest 1291 00:59:03,836 --> 00:59:05,963 who's been living on beef his entire life 1292 00:59:06,088 --> 00:59:08,382 to start eating vegetables, especially at that time 1293 00:59:08,507 --> 00:59:10,718 you couldn't get em year round, you couldn't 1294 00:59:10,843 --> 00:59:13,596 get fruit year round, it wasn't like it is today 1295 00:59:13,721 --> 00:59:17,433 where we refrigerate and ship fruits and vegetables around the world, 1296 00:59:17,558 --> 00:59:19,143 You're telling people from different parts 1297 00:59:19,268 --> 00:59:21,312 of the United States what to do, 1298 00:59:21,437 --> 00:59:23,314 how to do it and everyone's just 1299 00:59:23,439 --> 00:59:24,565 throwing their hands up, going, 1300 00:59:24,690 --> 00:59:26,025 I'm gonna do the best I can, 1301 00:59:27,651 --> 00:59:29,487 Do I think the Government was complicit 1302 00:59:29,653 --> 00:59:32,364 in causing this problem, yes, 1303 00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:35,785 Do I think they meant to do it, absolutely not, 1304 00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:38,496 I think McGovern's heart was in the right place, 1305 00:59:38,662 --> 00:59:40,414 they just went the wrong way about it, 1306 00:59:40,539 --> 00:59:43,793 But we went on that experiment and the Government put us 1307 00:59:43,918 --> 00:59:46,629 on that experiment, they didn't ask us about it, they didn't 1308 00:59:46,754 --> 00:59:50,299 ask our advice, they just told us how to eat, then they told the food industry, 1309 00:59:50,424 --> 00:59:54,261 uh, asked the food industry to produce low fat food products, 1310 00:59:54,386 --> 00:59:57,056 [narrator] Industry slowly is responding 1311 00:59:57,181 --> 00:59:58,641 to it, producing foods that are lower 1312 00:59:58,766 --> 01:00:01,018 in salt and fat and so on and people 1313 01:00:01,143 --> 01:00:02,144 are beginning to get the message, 1314 01:00:02,269 --> 01:00:04,271 Low cholesterol, no cholesterol, 1315 01:00:04,396 --> 01:00:06,273 - lowers cholesterol, - Good fat, bad fat, 1316 01:00:06,398 --> 01:00:08,526 - low fat, non-fat, - Milk suddenly came 1317 01:00:08,692 --> 01:00:12,738 in, you know, a bewildering number of varieties 1318 01:00:12,863 --> 01:00:16,075 all of them reduced in fat and whether or not 1319 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,660 it was a result of the experiment, 1320 01:00:17,785 --> 01:00:20,663 this coincided with the obesity explosions 1321 01:00:20,788 --> 01:00:23,082 in obesity and diabetes we've been seeing today, 1322 01:00:23,207 --> 01:00:25,292 [dramatic music] 1323 01:00:27,253 --> 01:00:30,798 The 1980s brought in all sorts of brand new foods, 1324 01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:42,309 [commercial] There's a Dannon body in everybody. 1325 01:00:42,434 --> 01:00:44,270 Unlike some yogurts, it's low in fat. 1326 01:00:44,395 --> 01:00:45,271 [All] Wow! 1327 01:00:45,396 --> 01:00:47,356 The whole thought pattern was, 1328 01:00:47,481 --> 01:00:49,817 if you didn't eat fat, you couldn't get fat, 1329 01:00:49,942 --> 01:00:52,278 Not having fat does not automatically 1330 01:00:52,403 --> 01:00:54,113 make something health food and that's where 1331 01:00:54,238 --> 01:00:56,949 we get into this debate about is it just 1332 01:00:57,074 --> 01:00:59,743 calories in, calories out, does it not matter 1333 01:00:59,869 --> 01:01:01,662 what we eat as long as we're burning 1334 01:01:01,787 --> 01:01:03,122 enough calories to burn it off? 1335 01:01:03,247 --> 01:01:04,874 We still don't know if eating a low fat diet 1336 01:01:04,999 --> 01:01:08,127 is a good thing, some of the smartest scientists 1337 01:01:08,252 --> 01:01:10,504 and the president of the National Academy of Sciences 1338 01:01:10,629 --> 01:01:13,841 in the late 1970s called this a huge experiment 1339 01:01:13,966 --> 01:01:17,386 in which the American public were the subjects, 1340 01:01:19,346 --> 01:01:20,556 [typewriter clacks] 1341 01:01:29,398 --> 01:01:31,734 Let's examine why there is so much 1342 01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:34,445 confusion about good nutrition, 1343 01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:36,322 One reason is that we have been given 1344 01:01:36,447 --> 01:01:38,699 a lot of misinformation, usually 1345 01:01:38,824 --> 01:01:40,409 by those looking to make a profit, 1346 01:01:40,534 --> 01:01:43,204 -[jaunty music] - Today, there are still 1347 01:01:43,329 --> 01:01:46,207 many unusual ideas as to what you should eat, 1348 01:01:49,251 --> 01:01:51,545 people tend to believe that just because 1349 01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:54,340 it's in print or on television, it must be true, 1350 01:01:54,465 --> 01:01:56,592 The 80s also brought in all sorts 1351 01:01:56,717 --> 01:01:58,135 of new fitness trends, 1352 01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:00,095 [upbeat music] 1353 01:02:01,847 --> 01:02:03,515 [commercial] Make the commitment now 1354 01:02:03,641 --> 01:02:05,517 and watch how fast you see results. 1355 01:02:08,312 --> 01:02:09,605 Are you ready to do the workout? 1356 01:02:09,730 --> 01:02:13,359 We couldn't get enough of fitness in the 1980s, 1357 01:02:13,484 --> 01:02:15,778 but although we were doing all of this, 1358 01:02:15,903 --> 01:02:17,238 we weren't getting any thinner, 1359 01:02:17,363 --> 01:02:19,114 Sugar consumption increases 1360 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,741 in part with the introduction of 1361 01:02:20,866 --> 01:02:22,785 high-fructose corn syrup and that's 1362 01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:24,870 an unintended consequence of these 1363 01:02:24,995 --> 01:02:27,456 Government actions, it's arguably the case 1364 01:02:27,581 --> 01:02:31,502 if they had done nothing, we wouldn't 1365 01:02:31,627 --> 01:02:32,878 have had this epidemic, we might have had 1366 01:02:33,003 --> 01:02:36,882 it anyway, but they probably, 1367 01:02:37,007 --> 01:02:39,134 almost assuredly, made it worse, 1368 01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:40,803 For 25 years we've been pushing 1369 01:02:40,928 --> 01:02:43,514 a low fat dogma, that said eat less fat 1370 01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:47,142 first it said eat less total fat and you'll have less heart disease, 1371 01:02:47,268 --> 01:02:50,980 - less cancer and you'll weigh less, - But that's not exactly true, 1372 01:02:51,105 --> 01:02:53,857 This started because there's incontrovertible 1373 01:02:53,983 --> 01:02:56,652 evidence that saturated fat is bad 1374 01:02:56,777 --> 01:02:59,989 and that is well established in long-term trials, 1375 01:03:00,114 --> 01:03:02,157 You build up in a community, institutions 1376 01:03:02,283 --> 01:03:04,827 organizations, everybody collects to them, 1377 01:03:04,952 --> 01:03:07,871 people who think just like they do, 1378 01:03:07,997 --> 01:03:10,708 Like we like each other, we respect each other 1379 01:03:10,874 --> 01:03:13,919 'cause we think alike [laughs] you know, 1380 01:03:14,044 --> 01:03:15,212 I know nothing about you other than that 1381 01:03:15,337 --> 01:03:17,339 you think like I do, so I respect 1382 01:03:17,464 --> 01:03:20,342 the way you think and institutions do this 1383 01:03:20,467 --> 01:03:21,719 and then somebody else comes along 1384 01:03:21,844 --> 01:03:23,929 from the outside and says, oh you guys 1385 01:03:24,054 --> 01:03:26,307 all got it wrong, look, here's the evidence, 1386 01:03:26,432 --> 01:03:28,851 all these obese diabetic people neck-deep 1387 01:03:28,976 --> 01:03:31,979 in obesity and diabetes, we got to change everything, 1388 01:03:32,938 --> 01:03:36,859 It's hard to accept, it's hard to back out of, 1389 01:03:36,984 --> 01:03:38,861 There's no way to back out of it 1390 01:03:38,986 --> 01:03:40,946 that doesn't destroy your credibility, 1391 01:03:41,572 --> 01:03:44,658 [woman] In this country, we have freedom of choice 1392 01:03:44,783 --> 01:03:47,328 to say what we wanna say, we have freedom 1393 01:03:47,453 --> 01:03:50,748 of choice to print what we wanna print 1394 01:03:50,914 --> 01:03:52,750 we have freedom of choice to think 1395 01:03:52,916 --> 01:03:55,002 what we wanna think, but we do not 1396 01:03:55,127 --> 01:03:57,963 have freedom of choice for our own healthcare, 1397 01:03:58,088 --> 01:04:00,924 Why, I guess profit and politics and power, 1398 01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:05,179 The MDs and nutritionists and all people 1399 01:04:05,304 --> 01:04:08,140 need to work together for the total benefit 1400 01:04:08,265 --> 01:04:09,850 of this country's health, 1401 01:04:09,975 --> 01:04:12,728 So in 1992, we did the most brilliant 1402 01:04:12,853 --> 01:04:14,772 thing we've ever done as a country, 1403 01:04:14,897 --> 01:04:18,025 We started the food pyramid, 1404 01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:22,071 Now, this is so ridiculous that I can't even 1405 01:04:22,196 --> 01:04:24,865 ever remember-- because in my own mind 1406 01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:27,159 it makes no sense, I always have to 1407 01:04:27,284 --> 01:04:29,203 read it off of a piece of paper, 1408 01:04:29,328 --> 01:04:32,373 The pyramid at the base, the biggest part 1409 01:04:32,498 --> 01:04:34,917 was bread, cereal and rice, six 1410 01:04:35,042 --> 01:04:37,628 to eleven servings, not per week, 1411 01:04:37,753 --> 01:04:39,129 hang on folks, per day! 1412 01:04:39,254 --> 01:04:40,881 If you went to the maximum vegetables, 1413 01:04:41,006 --> 01:04:42,383 that's five vegetables a day, 1414 01:04:42,508 --> 01:04:45,010 Five servings, and fruit, if you went 1415 01:04:45,135 --> 01:04:47,805 to the max, that's four, that's 20 servings 1416 01:04:47,971 --> 01:04:49,973 of carbohydrates every day and then 1417 01:04:50,099 --> 01:04:51,892 when you get into milk and dairy, 1418 01:04:52,017 --> 01:04:54,770 milk has carbohydrates, there's lactose in milk 1419 01:04:54,895 --> 01:04:56,480 that's like drinking sugar, and on meat? 1420 01:04:56,605 --> 01:04:59,149 The most you can have in any given day 1421 01:04:59,274 --> 01:05:02,486 is three servings, Now it gets even worse 1422 01:05:02,611 --> 01:05:04,154 because we start wondering this, 1423 01:05:04,279 --> 01:05:07,116 what's a serving, what's a serving of meat? 1424 01:05:07,241 --> 01:05:08,742 They didn't tell you how many ounces, 1425 01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:10,994 Well I could tell you it was two to three 1426 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,330 ounces per serving, but who knew that? 1427 01:05:13,455 --> 01:05:14,832 [Timon] You got to eat the right stuff. 1428 01:05:14,957 --> 01:05:17,292 Start with a little meat, a little dairy, 1429 01:05:17,418 --> 01:05:18,961 you got to add a bunch of fruit. 1430 01:05:19,086 --> 01:05:21,547 You have Timon and pumba telling people 1431 01:05:21,672 --> 01:05:24,508 -to eat more grains! - Bread, cereal, rice, 1432 01:05:24,633 --> 01:05:27,428 -noodles. - And eat a whole lot less fat 1433 01:05:27,553 --> 01:05:29,346 and if you thought that was ridiculous, 1434 01:05:29,471 --> 01:05:31,557 the servings ad they did give us 1435 01:05:31,682 --> 01:05:34,268 with the food pyramid did not match 1436 01:05:34,393 --> 01:05:37,020 what the Government told us that servings should be 1437 01:05:37,146 --> 01:05:39,565 on the packages of food, those servings, 1438 01:05:39,690 --> 01:05:41,316 which are also mandated by the Government, 1439 01:05:41,442 --> 01:05:44,319 were completely different from the servings 1440 01:05:44,445 --> 01:05:46,697 that we heard about when it came to 1441 01:05:46,822 --> 01:05:48,782 what was on the pyramid, 1442 01:05:48,907 --> 01:05:54,663 The new food label represents nothing less than a major victory for the consumer 1443 01:05:54,788 --> 01:05:56,832 and for the public health, 1444 01:05:56,957 --> 01:05:58,375 [man] When you're given a percentage 1445 01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:02,004 and you see that this is 50% or this is 10% 1446 01:06:02,129 --> 01:06:04,047 of your expected daily total 1447 01:06:04,173 --> 01:06:06,133 then you know very quickly that this food 1448 01:06:06,258 --> 01:06:07,759 either contributes a lot of fat 1449 01:06:07,885 --> 01:06:10,053 or a little bit of fat and how to plan 1450 01:06:10,179 --> 01:06:12,139 the rest of your diet around this particular food, 1451 01:06:12,264 --> 01:06:16,018 This food label which will be on virtually 1452 01:06:16,143 --> 01:06:20,063 all foods, will be a benchmark for nutrition 1453 01:06:20,189 --> 01:06:24,401 information well into the 21st century, 1454 01:06:24,526 --> 01:06:26,737 [Vinnie] The Government makes the manufacturers 1455 01:06:26,862 --> 01:06:29,990 put the product ingredient list and the amount 1456 01:06:30,115 --> 01:06:34,161 in which it appears on the package, If the number one thing is grains, 1457 01:06:34,286 --> 01:06:38,248 you will rice first, if the second thing is sugar you will see sugar second, 1458 01:06:38,373 --> 01:06:40,459 These companies got really smart at some point 1459 01:06:40,584 --> 01:06:42,211 and figured out hey, wait a minute 1460 01:06:42,336 --> 01:06:44,129 we can't do it this way because people 1461 01:06:44,254 --> 01:06:47,049 are seeing sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, 1462 01:06:47,174 --> 01:06:50,469 so what they do is they name the sugars other things, 1463 01:06:50,594 --> 01:06:54,139 At last count, we were at 70 names, 1464 01:06:54,264 --> 01:06:57,184 70 different names for sugar on packages, 1465 01:07:00,979 --> 01:07:03,065 Let's say you're diabetic, Type 1, Type 2 1466 01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:05,234 it doesn't matter, if you don't know how 1467 01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:09,238 to read these labels, your life hangs in the balance, 1468 01:07:09,363 --> 01:07:11,657 This is the world we live in, this is 1469 01:07:11,782 --> 01:07:13,951 our society, this is our community 1470 01:07:14,076 --> 01:07:16,870 and if we don't fix it, who will? No one will, 1471 01:07:16,995 --> 01:07:20,165 The food label has become a veritable minefield 1472 01:07:20,290 --> 01:07:22,084 of misleading and downright false claims, 1473 01:07:22,751 --> 01:07:24,628 And many in Congress feel the same way 1474 01:07:24,753 --> 01:07:25,963 they're concerned that any confusion 1475 01:07:26,129 --> 01:07:27,673 over the truthfulness of health claims 1476 01:07:27,798 --> 01:07:29,967 could be dangerous because the potential benefit 1477 01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:31,802 of displaying important health information 1478 01:07:31,927 --> 01:07:34,096 on food labels would be lost if consumers 1479 01:07:34,221 --> 01:07:35,889 lose confidence in what they're being told, 1480 01:07:36,014 --> 01:07:37,891 When I was a kid in the late 70s, 1481 01:07:38,016 --> 01:07:42,312 the term metabolic syndrome did not exist at all, 1482 01:07:42,437 --> 01:07:44,815 Metabolic syndrome is not one thing 1483 01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:47,818 it's several things, it's fatty liver disease 1484 01:07:47,943 --> 01:07:49,861 it's Type 2 diabetes, something else 1485 01:07:49,987 --> 01:07:52,823 that barely existed in the 70s, we have people 1486 01:07:52,948 --> 01:07:55,534 on statins and metformin, none of this 1487 01:07:55,659 --> 01:07:58,870 existed in this quantity in the 70s, 1488 01:07:58,996 --> 01:08:02,457 We've gone from here to here in just a few short years, 1489 01:08:02,583 --> 01:08:05,127 So the same foods in my mother's generation 1490 01:08:05,252 --> 01:08:08,005 grew up believing would go right to their hips, 1491 01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:10,799 You know, by the 1980s, we were being told 1492 01:08:10,924 --> 01:08:13,260 to eat six to eleven servings per day 1493 01:08:13,385 --> 01:08:15,262 they were the base of the food diet pyramid 1494 01:08:15,387 --> 01:08:19,141 in the 1990s and they coincided with this obesity epidemic, 1495 01:08:25,981 --> 01:08:27,232 I mean we couldn't have screwed up 1496 01:08:27,357 --> 01:08:29,484 the science of obesity more if we had tried, 1497 01:08:30,611 --> 01:08:31,987 We don't know what to do, 1498 01:08:32,112 --> 01:08:33,572 Nutrition experts, the establishment, 1499 01:08:33,697 --> 01:08:35,866 the orthodoxy, just doesn't know what to do 1500 01:08:35,991 --> 01:08:37,117 so they continue raising money 1501 01:08:37,242 --> 01:08:38,493 for the American Heart Association, 1502 01:08:38,619 --> 01:08:39,786 the American Diabetes Association, 1503 01:08:39,911 --> 01:08:41,538 but they don't have any new ideas, 1504 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,292 They keep saying just keep applying the advice that we've given you 1505 01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:48,003 and somehow, it'll turn out different this time, 1506 01:08:48,128 --> 01:08:49,880 One of the things that I always say is 1507 01:08:50,005 --> 01:08:51,923 why not just be open to new ideas? 1508 01:08:52,049 --> 01:08:54,051 Like, here's some other ideas coming along 1509 01:08:54,176 --> 01:08:55,802 let's just consider them, Don't we have 1510 01:08:55,927 --> 01:08:58,263 an obligation to the public to consider 1511 01:08:58,388 --> 01:08:59,723 at least, other ideas? 1512 01:09:01,391 --> 01:09:05,228 [reporter] You're about to meet a father who refused to give up, a man who defied 1513 01:09:05,354 --> 01:09:07,564 the doctors and went looking for a miracle. 1514 01:09:07,689 --> 01:09:10,567 [Vinnie] My generation remembers Jim Abrahams quite well, 1515 01:09:10,692 --> 01:09:12,611 He did some of our favorite movies 1516 01:09:12,736 --> 01:09:15,030 like Airplane! and Hot Shots! and all 1517 01:09:15,155 --> 01:09:17,074 of these funny movies in the 70s and 80s, 1518 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,410 Well it wasn't very funny when Jim Abrahams 1519 01:09:20,535 --> 01:09:24,790 had a 16 month old son who was having 1520 01:09:24,915 --> 01:09:27,292 seizure after seizure after seizure 1521 01:09:27,417 --> 01:09:30,253 and he was going-- because he was a big producer 1522 01:09:30,379 --> 01:09:32,381 and he had the means, he went to the top 1523 01:09:32,506 --> 01:09:33,965 doctors In the United States, 1524 01:09:34,091 --> 01:09:36,343 And at the time, Charlie was averaging 1525 01:09:36,468 --> 01:09:38,512 about a dozen seizures a day, 1526 01:09:38,637 --> 01:09:42,015 He was on four anti-epileptic medicines, 1527 01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:44,267 If you have a critically ill kid, 1528 01:09:44,393 --> 01:09:47,854 what would your choice be? 1529 01:09:47,979 --> 01:09:51,817 Do you wanna drug him, do you wanna cut his brain 1530 01:09:51,942 --> 01:09:53,944 or do you wanna change what he eats? 1531 01:09:54,069 --> 01:09:55,612 And it just seems obvious to me, 1532 01:09:55,737 --> 01:09:57,239 This is not to blame doctors, 1533 01:09:57,364 --> 01:10:00,367 Doctors are spread really thin and they have 1534 01:10:00,492 --> 01:10:01,993 to try to do the best they can, 1535 01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:04,496 but it was Jim who figured out on his own 1536 01:10:04,621 --> 01:10:08,125 by going to a library in the hospital 1537 01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:10,127 and just happened to open a book 1538 01:10:10,252 --> 01:10:13,922 to a page that showed the ketogenic diet 1539 01:10:14,047 --> 01:10:17,092 as being the best way to deal with seizures in infants, 1540 01:10:17,217 --> 01:10:18,760 The book claimed that experts here 1541 01:10:18,885 --> 01:10:21,054 in Baltimore were perfecting something called 1542 01:10:21,179 --> 01:10:24,266 the ketogenic diet, a diet consisting 1543 01:10:24,391 --> 01:10:26,059 largely of something most doctors 1544 01:10:26,184 --> 01:10:28,478 -tell us to avoid, - I called Dr, Freeman 1545 01:10:28,603 --> 01:10:30,981 from Johns Hopkins, told him about Charlie 1546 01:10:31,106 --> 01:10:34,067 and he said, send his medical records, 1547 01:10:34,192 --> 01:10:37,279 we did and he said, well bring Charlie 1548 01:10:37,404 --> 01:10:38,989 out to Hopkins and we'll try the diet 1549 01:10:39,114 --> 01:10:42,159 and we started the diet and in two days 1550 01:10:42,325 --> 01:10:43,201 his seizures were gone, 1551 01:10:44,202 --> 01:10:46,288 -[interviewer] Two days? - Two days, 1552 01:10:46,413 --> 01:10:49,332 [reporter] Jim was angry and puzzled that none 1553 01:10:49,458 --> 01:10:52,961 of the six doctors he went to for help ever mentioned the diet, 1554 01:10:53,086 --> 01:10:54,838 What has stopped Charlie's seizures 1555 01:10:54,963 --> 01:10:57,132 has been in existence for 70 years, 1556 01:10:57,257 --> 01:10:59,760 it's been sitting there, it was waiting for him, 1557 01:10:59,885 --> 01:11:02,637 You had some knowledge that this diet 1558 01:11:02,763 --> 01:11:05,390 was probably working back at Johns Hopkins 1559 01:11:05,515 --> 01:11:09,770 and yet you dissuaded the Abrahams from attempting it, How come? 1560 01:11:09,895 --> 01:11:14,608 Well, because I don't think we had exhausted all of the medical approaches yet, 1561 01:11:14,733 --> 01:11:20,197 Uh,,, There were actually still other medications that we hadn't tried yet, 1562 01:11:20,322 --> 01:11:22,491 Dr, Freeman tells us that 50 to 70% 1563 01:11:22,616 --> 01:11:24,201 of the patients that come through his doors 1564 01:11:24,367 --> 01:11:27,078 and get put on a diet have success, 1565 01:11:27,579 --> 01:11:30,957 Can you think of any drugs in these hard cases 1566 01:11:31,082 --> 01:11:33,210 that have 50 to 70% success rates, 1567 01:11:33,376 --> 01:11:36,505 probably not anything that comes up to that level, 1568 01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:39,883 In another month, Dr, Freeman weaned him off 1569 01:11:40,008 --> 01:11:43,303 all four anti-epileptic medicines and 1570 01:11:44,596 --> 01:11:48,225 Charlie went from a prognosis of a lifetime 1571 01:11:48,391 --> 01:11:51,853 of seizures and what they call "progressive retardation" 1572 01:11:51,978 --> 01:11:55,190 to we got our son back and his smile is back 1573 01:11:55,315 --> 01:11:58,777 and he was happy again, and our family 1574 01:11:58,902 --> 01:12:00,362 could go on with life, 1575 01:12:00,487 --> 01:12:04,574 This is Charlie Abrahams and his mom, Nancy, 1576 01:12:04,699 --> 01:12:07,202 I've known him since birth, I watched 1577 01:12:07,327 --> 01:12:09,412 his delightful personality emerge 1578 01:12:09,538 --> 01:12:11,790 through a normal first year, I witnessed 1579 01:12:11,915 --> 01:12:14,251 his debilitating battle with seizures 1580 01:12:14,417 --> 01:12:16,920 and medicines, I rejoiced with his family 1581 01:12:17,045 --> 01:12:20,340 when the ketogenic diet stopped his epilepsy 1582 01:12:20,465 --> 01:12:22,592 and now I derive strength and joy 1583 01:12:22,717 --> 01:12:24,261 like so many of his other friends 1584 01:12:24,427 --> 01:12:27,222 as we watch him begin to develop again, 1585 01:12:27,347 --> 01:12:29,683 It's too early to tell whether the nine months 1586 01:12:29,808 --> 01:12:32,060 of pummeling from seizures and medicines 1587 01:12:32,185 --> 01:12:34,896 did any permanent damage to Charlie's brain, 1588 01:12:35,021 --> 01:12:37,190 If he has anything to say on that matter 1589 01:12:37,315 --> 01:12:40,777 I know they won't, however, it's not too early 1590 01:12:40,902 --> 01:12:43,363 to tell that had Charlie's parents 1591 01:12:43,488 --> 01:12:45,198 been informed about the existence of 1592 01:12:45,323 --> 01:12:48,076 the ketogenic diet when he first got sick, 1593 01:12:48,201 --> 01:12:50,453 and about the success they've had with it 1594 01:12:50,579 --> 01:12:53,164 at Johns Hopkins, a vast majority 1595 01:12:53,290 --> 01:12:55,709 of Charlie's seizures would not have occurred, 1596 01:12:55,834 --> 01:12:59,087 And most of his $100,000 worth of medical, 1597 01:12:59,212 --> 01:13:02,549 surgical and drug treatment would not have been necessary, 1598 01:13:02,674 --> 01:13:05,886 [solemn music] 1599 01:13:06,011 --> 01:13:11,391 Even today, 1,5 out of every 10,000 people 1600 01:13:11,516 --> 01:13:15,770 with epilepsy who would benefit from a ketogenic diet 1601 01:13:15,896 --> 01:13:19,316 are using it today, Doctors are not taught 1602 01:13:19,441 --> 01:13:24,321 diet therapy or even nutrition in medical school, 1603 01:13:24,487 --> 01:13:27,282 they just simply aren't, Try an informal 1604 01:13:27,407 --> 01:13:29,200 survey on your own, next time you see 1605 01:13:29,326 --> 01:13:31,328 a doctor, your doctor, any doctor, 1606 01:13:31,494 --> 01:13:33,538 say, "When you were in medical school, 1607 01:13:33,663 --> 01:13:37,417 how long were you, how much time 1608 01:13:37,542 --> 01:13:39,628 did you spend investigating and learning 1609 01:13:39,753 --> 01:13:42,088 about nutrition and diet therapy?" 1610 01:13:42,213 --> 01:13:44,883 I didn't really have much nutritional training like most doctors, 1611 01:13:45,008 --> 01:13:46,968 In four years of psychiatry training, 1612 01:13:47,093 --> 01:13:48,678 we didn't talk about food once, 1613 01:13:48,803 --> 01:13:51,181 The extent of my training, I got in nutrition, 1614 01:13:51,306 --> 01:13:54,225 let's see, year one, two, three, four 1615 01:13:54,351 --> 01:13:55,977 then four years of residency, zero, 1616 01:14:00,148 --> 01:14:02,651 Zero, I got zero in addiction too, 1617 01:14:02,776 --> 01:14:04,694 Zero in nutrition, zero in addiction, 1618 01:14:04,819 --> 01:14:07,781 We were-- we were so damn busy taking care of sick 1619 01:14:07,906 --> 01:14:09,532 taking care of illness and trying 1620 01:14:09,658 --> 01:14:11,493 to push that back and save lives 1621 01:14:11,618 --> 01:14:13,078 that trying to prevent illness 1622 01:14:13,203 --> 01:14:14,496 was not really on our radar, 1623 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,502 I feel anger, I'm pissed off 1624 01:14:20,627 --> 01:14:25,090 and again, I think that part-- that the reasons 1625 01:14:25,215 --> 01:14:28,134 that the diet hasn't become more popular 1626 01:14:28,259 --> 01:14:30,553 has nothing to do with efficacy at all, 1627 01:14:30,679 --> 01:14:33,890 It has to do with revenue sources 1628 01:14:34,015 --> 01:14:36,518 that are more lucrative, The ketogenic diet 1629 01:14:36,643 --> 01:14:39,270 isn't that expensive, the problem is 1630 01:14:39,396 --> 01:14:43,316 it doesn't generate revenue for the medical world, 1631 01:14:43,441 --> 01:14:46,903 There are powerful forces at work 1632 01:14:47,028 --> 01:14:50,031 in our medical system that have nothing 1633 01:14:50,156 --> 01:14:51,116 to do with good health, 1634 01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:53,326 My patients have been getting fatter 1635 01:14:53,451 --> 01:14:55,704 and sicker over the last few decades 1636 01:14:55,829 --> 01:14:58,123 and in particular, we're starting to see 1637 01:14:58,248 --> 01:15:00,583 diabetes out of control, and that changes everything, 1638 01:15:01,710 --> 01:15:03,503 I used to see the occasional person 1639 01:15:03,628 --> 01:15:05,588 who needed diabetic foot ulcer management 1640 01:15:05,714 --> 01:15:09,092 and needing an amputation, and it started becoming virtually weekly, 1641 01:15:09,217 --> 01:15:13,638 When you come into a clinic and there's patients 1642 01:15:13,763 --> 01:15:17,225 with, you know, rotting flesh and it is rotting flesh 1643 01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:21,312 and it smells bad, it looks bad 1644 01:15:21,438 --> 01:15:23,606 and all you're doing is just trimming 1645 01:15:23,732 --> 01:15:26,651 off a little bit of foot, starts with a toe, 1646 01:15:26,776 --> 01:15:29,446 starts with an ulcer, then it moves up the foot 1647 01:15:29,571 --> 01:15:34,451 and sometimes you know, you get to a point after doing two or three operations 1648 01:15:34,617 --> 01:15:37,620 it's been going a couple of months and then the decision is you've actually 1649 01:15:37,746 --> 01:15:38,621 got to chop that leg off, 1650 01:15:39,497 --> 01:15:41,666 [sawing through bone] 1651 01:15:42,792 --> 01:15:45,003 There's something which really upsets me 1652 01:15:45,128 --> 01:15:46,671 and that's when you actually amputate 1653 01:15:46,796 --> 01:15:49,174 someone's limb, there's a sound of actually 1654 01:15:49,299 --> 01:15:50,925 dropping that leg into a bucket, 1655 01:15:51,051 --> 01:15:52,302 [thump] 1656 01:15:53,553 --> 01:15:56,056 I don't want anyone to hear that, you know, that noise, 1657 01:15:56,181 --> 01:16:00,977 it's just,,, Yeah it's just sickening, I started talking 1658 01:16:01,102 --> 01:16:03,271 to my patients about reducing sugar 1659 01:16:03,396 --> 01:16:05,023 and the benefits were immediate, 1660 01:16:05,148 --> 01:16:08,485 Not only would the peoples fatty liver disease 1661 01:16:08,651 --> 01:16:11,654 get better, not only would all of their blood 1662 01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:13,782 numbers get better, but in fact, 1663 01:16:13,907 --> 01:16:17,410 he would not have to end up chopping off a foot or a leg, 1664 01:16:17,535 --> 01:16:20,622 I then went to the hospital dieticians 1665 01:16:20,747 --> 01:16:22,373 and said hang on, this is really exciting 1666 01:16:22,499 --> 01:16:25,126 this stuff about sugar, started talking about it 1667 01:16:25,251 --> 01:16:28,630 to the staff and then I started implementing 1668 01:16:28,755 --> 01:16:31,800 a sugar reduction for my patients, 1669 01:16:31,925 --> 01:16:33,510 only to find out that I was starting 1670 01:16:33,676 --> 01:16:35,011 to tread on some big toes, 1671 01:16:35,136 --> 01:16:37,764 The dieticians then started kicking up 1672 01:16:37,889 --> 01:16:40,517 a stink about that involving their parent organization, 1673 01:16:40,683 --> 01:16:42,769 the Dieticians Association of Australia 1674 01:16:42,894 --> 01:16:46,773 who started becoming involved into pressuring 1675 01:16:46,898 --> 01:16:48,525 the hospital into silencing me, 1676 01:16:48,650 --> 01:16:50,777 We received evidence in Sydney 1677 01:16:50,902 --> 01:16:53,404 from a medical practitioner in Tasmania, 1678 01:16:53,530 --> 01:16:57,826 Dr, Gary Fettke, he gave the evidence to 1679 01:16:57,951 --> 01:16:59,786 the Committee in the morning of our hearing 1680 01:16:59,911 --> 01:17:03,873 in Sydney, three hours later, he received 1681 01:17:03,998 --> 01:17:05,708 an official caution from APRA, 1682 01:17:05,834 --> 01:17:07,210 The first time I heard this story, 1683 01:17:07,335 --> 01:17:08,503 I just thought it was a joke, 1684 01:17:08,628 --> 01:17:10,964 The Boards actual statement requires 1685 01:17:11,089 --> 01:17:13,633 that doctors double check that their personal beliefs 1686 01:17:13,758 --> 01:17:15,802 don't compromise care, that they don't put 1687 01:17:15,927 --> 01:17:18,221 their commercial interest in front of patients 1688 01:17:18,346 --> 01:17:20,223 and lastly, doctors should provide 1689 01:17:20,348 --> 01:17:22,392 appropriate dietary advice, 1690 01:17:22,517 --> 01:17:24,769 Ultimately, the Medical Board made a ruling 1691 01:17:24,894 --> 01:17:29,107 that I am now the only doctor as far as we know 1692 01:17:29,232 --> 01:17:31,568 in the world to be banned from advising 1693 01:17:31,734 --> 01:17:35,155 his patients to reduce their sugar and junk food intake, 1694 01:17:36,531 --> 01:17:38,992 And if that sounds crazy, then that's what it is, 1695 01:17:39,868 --> 01:17:43,746 We recognize that uh, the-- being subject 1696 01:17:43,872 --> 01:17:45,874 to the notifications process for a practitioner 1697 01:17:45,999 --> 01:17:48,751 can be an extraordinarily stressful, uh, thing 1698 01:17:48,877 --> 01:17:51,880 because there are pretty serious issues at stake 1699 01:17:52,005 --> 01:17:53,506 ultimately in terms of their practice 1700 01:17:53,631 --> 01:17:56,301 -of their profession and-- - And their reputation, 1701 01:17:56,426 --> 01:18:00,180 And their reputation and, uh, despite the fact 1702 01:18:00,305 --> 01:18:02,223 that we are not punitive in our focus, 1703 01:18:02,348 --> 01:18:03,683 we are protective in our focus 1704 01:18:03,808 --> 01:18:06,186 and our mandate is a public protection focus 1705 01:18:06,311 --> 01:18:08,062 we understand and appreciate that it may not 1706 01:18:08,188 --> 01:18:09,939 feel like that for the practitioner 1707 01:18:10,064 --> 01:18:11,232 involved in the process, 1708 01:18:11,357 --> 01:18:12,734 For a long time, I couldn't actually 1709 01:18:12,859 --> 01:18:14,736 work out why there was anything actually 1710 01:18:14,861 --> 01:18:17,030 against what I was talking about, 1711 01:18:17,155 --> 01:18:20,408 everything about reducing sugar and carbohydrate 1712 01:18:20,533 --> 01:18:22,827 is basic biochemistry, it's in the first 1713 01:18:22,952 --> 01:18:27,582 hundred pages of textbooks, so there's nothing 1714 01:18:27,707 --> 01:18:30,919 extreme about it, once you see the results 1715 01:18:31,044 --> 01:18:34,714 of reducing sugar and carbs, particularly in diabetes, 1716 01:18:34,839 --> 01:18:36,216 you can't unsee them, 1717 01:18:36,341 --> 01:18:40,345 You know, at this point, I think there is active 1718 01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:42,347 suppression of this science, 1719 01:18:42,472 --> 01:18:44,891 and this has been going on since the 60s, 1720 01:18:45,016 --> 01:18:46,643 One of the things I found in my research, 1721 01:18:46,768 --> 01:18:49,437 the biggest ever test of Ancel Keys' hypothesis 1722 01:18:49,562 --> 01:18:51,773 was something called The Minnesota Coronary Survey 1723 01:18:51,898 --> 01:18:54,859 it was on more than nine thousand men and women 1724 01:18:54,984 --> 01:18:59,239 in five Minnesota mental hospitals, which was a really well-controlled study 1725 01:18:59,364 --> 01:19:02,784 because somebody in a hospital, you can control everything they're eating, 1726 01:19:02,909 --> 01:19:06,955 They gave half the people what was considered the normal amount of saturated fat, 1727 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,583 regular milk, regular meat, cheese, butter etcetera, 1728 01:19:10,708 --> 01:19:13,670 The other half they gave 9% saturated fats 1729 01:19:13,836 --> 01:19:15,630 soy-filled milk, soy-filled cheese, 1730 01:19:15,755 --> 01:19:18,466 soy-filled burgers, they found that the people 1731 01:19:18,591 --> 01:19:21,803 on the vegetable oil, soy-filled diets 1732 01:19:21,928 --> 01:19:24,639 there was no effect on cardiovascular mortality 1733 01:19:24,764 --> 01:19:26,557 or total mortality, That study 1734 01:19:26,683 --> 01:19:29,394 was not published for 16 years, 1735 01:19:30,561 --> 01:19:31,854 One of the principle investigators, 1736 01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:33,564 Ivan Frantz was asked by a journalist 1737 01:19:33,690 --> 01:19:35,441 why did you not publish this study? 1738 01:19:35,566 --> 01:19:37,819 He said well, there was really nothing wrong with it 1739 01:19:37,944 --> 01:19:41,197 we were just so disappointed in the way it came out, 1740 01:19:41,322 --> 01:19:44,867 Well that's basically scientific fraud, 1741 01:19:44,993 --> 01:19:46,035 not publishing your results, 1742 01:19:47,829 --> 01:19:51,708 I started to ask the question what got in the way? 1743 01:19:51,833 --> 01:19:55,044 What's withholding the message? 1744 01:19:55,169 --> 01:19:59,924 Well, there is a pharmaceutical and medical 1745 01:20:00,049 --> 01:20:02,802 device industry that makes billions 1746 01:20:02,927 --> 01:20:05,930 selling their products to doctors 1747 01:20:06,055 --> 01:20:09,434 who have no interest in diet therapy, 1748 01:20:09,559 --> 01:20:14,439 There, uh, is a sugar industry that adds 1749 01:20:14,564 --> 01:20:17,734 sugar to all of our processed foods 1750 01:20:17,859 --> 01:20:21,446 that has no interest in promoting a sugar-free diet, 1751 01:20:21,571 --> 01:20:25,074 There is a cardiology community led by 1752 01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:27,535 the American Heart Association 1753 01:20:27,660 --> 01:20:31,080 that has been spreading misinformation 1754 01:20:31,205 --> 01:20:35,126 about a high-fat diet based on flawed science 1755 01:20:35,251 --> 01:20:37,128 for over 70 years, 1756 01:20:37,253 --> 01:20:39,130 Those diets have been used in children 1757 01:20:39,255 --> 01:20:41,466 for many years who have epilepsy 1758 01:20:41,591 --> 01:20:43,217 and those children show definite 1759 01:20:43,343 --> 01:20:46,346 cognitive dysfunction, also those diets, 1760 01:20:46,471 --> 01:20:48,097 Which means they don't think as clearly, 1761 01:20:48,222 --> 01:20:49,766 - That's right, - Those children are also 1762 01:20:49,891 --> 01:20:51,434 children who have as many, they're intransigent 1763 01:20:51,559 --> 01:20:52,769 childhood epilepsy, they have as many 1764 01:20:52,935 --> 01:20:55,772 as 400 seizures a month, they're untreatable 1765 01:20:55,938 --> 01:20:58,566 by drugs, they go on the diet, and the diets 1766 01:20:58,691 --> 01:21:01,402 I think it cures 33% of them, cures them, 1767 01:21:01,527 --> 01:21:04,864 The epilepsy and then they aren't able to think, 1768 01:21:04,989 --> 01:21:10,119 Today Charlie is a elementary school teacher 1769 01:21:10,244 --> 01:21:12,789 a certificate in early childhood education, 1770 01:21:12,955 --> 01:21:16,709 he boxes, he plays piano, and we are 1771 01:21:17,710 --> 01:21:21,172 beyond grateful every day for his outcome, 1772 01:21:21,297 --> 01:21:23,299 I'm not sure what would have become of me 1773 01:21:23,424 --> 01:21:26,636 if my family hadn't found the ketogenic diet, 1774 01:21:26,761 --> 01:21:30,348 But I doubt that today, I would be an A student 1775 01:21:30,473 --> 01:21:32,892 in high school with lots of friends, 1776 01:21:33,017 --> 01:21:35,311 I doubt I would have been playing piano 1777 01:21:35,436 --> 01:21:37,021 for the last eight years and I doubt 1778 01:21:37,146 --> 01:21:39,649 I could hit an 8 iron a 160 yards, 1779 01:21:40,817 --> 01:21:43,069 And they just couldn't accept that they were dealing with these 1780 01:21:43,194 --> 01:21:45,988 intractable conditions and not just pediatric 1781 01:21:46,114 --> 01:21:48,574 epilepsy, but obesity is an intractable condition, 1782 01:21:48,699 --> 01:21:51,828 diabetes, Type 2 diabetes is an intractable condition, 1783 01:21:51,953 --> 01:21:53,830 Type 1 is, and here you have this diet 1784 01:21:53,955 --> 01:21:56,499 that appears to put these conditions into remission, 1785 01:21:56,624 --> 01:21:59,001 The establishment here, represented 1786 01:21:59,127 --> 01:22:01,003 by our friends, its a little too dogmatic 1787 01:22:01,129 --> 01:22:02,839 and that we may never know the truth 1788 01:22:02,964 --> 01:22:05,675 unless we acknowledge that there is a counter-theory 1789 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,427 that has never been tested and that 1790 01:22:07,552 --> 01:22:09,011 that theory more and more people 1791 01:22:09,137 --> 01:22:11,931 are beginning to accept parts of the theory, 1792 01:22:12,056 --> 01:22:14,100 as being legitimate and that it could 1793 01:22:14,225 --> 01:22:15,726 answer a lot of problems and it could 1794 01:22:15,852 --> 01:22:17,520 even make it easier for Americans to lose weight, 1795 01:22:17,645 --> 01:22:19,313 people are able to reverse diabetes, 1796 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,732 people are able to lose weight sustainably, 1797 01:22:21,858 --> 01:22:24,444 Most, if not all cardiovascular risk factors 1798 01:22:24,569 --> 01:22:26,863 are improved along the way on a lower 1799 01:22:26,988 --> 01:22:30,950 carbohydrate diet, That diet ought to be at least considered, 1800 01:22:31,075 --> 01:22:33,077 If it turns out to be true, I'll be the first 1801 01:22:33,202 --> 01:22:34,829 to change my mind, but show me the data, 1802 01:22:34,954 --> 01:22:36,873 [Vinnie] Well, here's just one study that says 1803 01:22:36,998 --> 01:22:39,333 that long term ketosis reduces body weight, 1804 01:22:39,459 --> 01:22:42,211 triglycerides, LDL, and blood glucose 1805 01:22:42,336 --> 01:22:44,338 and shows that it's safe to use a long term 1806 01:22:44,464 --> 01:22:46,466 -ketogenic diet, - You can lose weight on 1807 01:22:46,591 --> 01:22:48,092 a plant-based diet, you can lose weight 1808 01:22:48,217 --> 01:22:50,428 on a ketogenic diet, but are you 1809 01:22:50,553 --> 01:22:51,888 mortgaging your health when you do that, 1810 01:22:52,013 --> 01:22:53,973 and the answer is yes, the ketogenic diet 1811 01:22:54,098 --> 01:22:56,100 when you look at the arteries of people 1812 01:22:56,225 --> 01:22:58,436 or animals that go on a ketogenic diet 1813 01:22:58,561 --> 01:23:00,021 they tend to be more clogged, 1814 01:23:00,146 --> 01:23:01,189 even though,,, [music drowns out talking], 1815 01:23:03,191 --> 01:23:06,360 [Gary] Imagine someone who spent his whole career getting the wrong answer, 1816 01:23:06,486 --> 01:23:08,112 and not only getting the wrong answer, getting the wrong 1817 01:23:08,237 --> 01:23:09,906 answer that dangerous, that actually 1818 01:23:10,031 --> 01:23:12,492 may have killed tens of thousands 1819 01:23:12,617 --> 01:23:14,410 of hundreds of thousands of people, 1820 01:23:14,535 --> 01:23:16,078 Millions of people prematurely, there's no 1821 01:23:16,204 --> 01:23:17,914 way to tell, then these outsiders 1822 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,082 come along and say you're wrong, 1823 01:23:20,208 --> 01:23:23,085 not only are you wrong, you're completely wrong 1824 01:23:23,211 --> 01:23:25,796 or not even wrong it's so senseless 1825 01:23:25,922 --> 01:23:27,215 what you've been doing and you're killing people 1826 01:23:27,340 --> 01:23:28,925 and you have to switch, I don't think 1827 01:23:29,050 --> 01:23:31,427 any human being, I mean were just not wired 1828 01:23:31,552 --> 01:23:34,514 to be able to say oh yeah, that's a good point 1829 01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:36,057 I get it, I see what you're saying 1830 01:23:36,182 --> 01:23:39,227 and I'm sorry, And if you're an institution 1831 01:23:39,352 --> 01:23:40,937 like the American Heart Association, 1832 01:23:41,103 --> 01:23:43,272 I mean imagine the press release 1833 01:23:43,397 --> 01:23:45,149 you would have to write, "Dear American public 1834 01:23:45,274 --> 01:23:47,818 we're sorry if we killed prematurely 1835 01:23:47,944 --> 01:23:50,446 your loved ones and your parents 1836 01:23:50,571 --> 01:23:53,032 and maybe we're killing you, but in retrospect 1837 01:23:53,157 --> 01:23:56,035 we shouldn't have given the advice we did," 1838 01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,872 -[somber music] - You know, we think 1839 01:23:59,997 --> 01:24:02,875 about corporations are-- our Government 1840 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,963 which is a corporation, and the first question is 1841 01:24:07,129 --> 01:24:09,966 do we blame them? Well, you can't hurt 1842 01:24:10,091 --> 01:24:12,134 the Government's feelings, you can't hurt 1843 01:24:12,260 --> 01:24:13,970 the corporations' feeling because 1844 01:24:14,095 --> 01:24:16,639 corporations and governments are not people, 1845 01:24:17,431 --> 01:24:20,184 They're machines, they're just big giant machines 1846 01:24:20,309 --> 01:24:23,646 and any person in that machine is just a cog 1847 01:24:23,771 --> 01:24:25,523 and there's no way to hurt anyone's feelings 1848 01:24:25,648 --> 01:24:27,608 or to get on anyone's bad side, 1849 01:24:27,733 --> 01:24:29,318 It's just a machine that keeps running, 1850 01:24:31,571 --> 01:24:34,907 [Dwight D, Eisenhower] Decisions of a nation, and of a Government 1851 01:24:35,032 --> 01:24:38,119 that at one time could tolerate 1852 01:24:38,244 --> 01:24:41,747 three or four weeks of study, now demand 1853 01:24:41,872 --> 01:24:45,376 almost instantaneous a reaction, 1854 01:24:45,501 --> 01:24:47,003 The people of the United States 1855 01:24:47,128 --> 01:24:51,632 recognize one by one, thousand by thousand, 1856 01:24:51,757 --> 01:24:54,010 million by million that this I a problem 1857 01:24:54,176 --> 01:24:56,596 which solution is long overdue, 1858 01:24:56,721 --> 01:24:59,432 [Lyndon B. Johnson] Long before Lyndon Johnson came into position 1859 01:24:59,557 --> 01:25:02,101 of power, our leaders were recommending 1860 01:25:02,226 --> 01:25:06,022 great advances in the field of civil rights 1861 01:25:06,147 --> 01:25:07,898 and great advances in the field of health 1862 01:25:08,024 --> 01:25:09,609 and things of that nature, 1863 01:25:09,734 --> 01:25:12,653 Uh, I just happened to be the catalyst, 1864 01:25:12,778 --> 01:25:15,364 We're living in a fast age and all of us 1865 01:25:15,489 --> 01:25:17,033 are rather impatient, 1866 01:25:17,158 --> 01:25:20,036 I am proposing today a new national health strategy, 1867 01:25:20,202 --> 01:25:23,122 Emphasizes keeping people well, 1868 01:25:23,247 --> 01:25:25,374 not just making people well, 1869 01:25:25,499 --> 01:25:28,044 I do envision the day when we may use 1870 01:25:28,169 --> 01:25:30,254 the private health insurance system, 1871 01:25:30,379 --> 01:25:33,633 to offer more middle income families 1872 01:25:33,758 --> 01:25:37,053 high quality health services at prices they can afford 1873 01:25:37,219 --> 01:25:41,557 and shield them also from their catastrophic illnesses, 1874 01:25:41,682 --> 01:25:44,352 Today I'm proposing to the Congress 1875 01:25:44,477 --> 01:25:48,356 a national health plan, this major initiative 1876 01:25:48,481 --> 01:25:50,399 will meet the most urgent needs 1877 01:25:50,524 --> 01:25:52,526 in health care of the American people, 1878 01:25:52,652 --> 01:25:54,945 Our Administration will propose to Congress 1879 01:25:55,071 --> 01:25:58,407 a comprehensive plan to cover catastrophic illnesses, 1880 01:25:58,532 --> 01:26:01,077 I am proud to have been part of an Administration 1881 01:26:01,202 --> 01:26:03,829 that passed the first Catastrophic Health Bill, 1882 01:26:03,954 --> 01:26:05,414 Whatever form it takes, 1883 01:26:05,539 --> 01:26:07,792 a catastrophic illness costs money, 1884 01:26:07,917 --> 01:26:09,877 [Bill Clinton] There are some little known but very important 1885 01:26:10,002 --> 01:26:12,213 provisions in this new balanced budget 1886 01:26:12,338 --> 01:26:15,091 that will take us a tremendous step 1887 01:26:15,216 --> 01:26:17,843 forward in our fight against diabetes, 1888 01:26:17,968 --> 01:26:20,179 These investments total more than 1889 01:26:20,304 --> 01:26:23,099 two billion dollars over the next five years, 1890 01:26:23,224 --> 01:26:25,768 We must remember that the best health care decisions 1891 01:26:25,893 --> 01:26:29,188 are not made by Government and insurance companies 1892 01:26:29,313 --> 01:26:31,524 but by patients and their doctors, 1893 01:26:31,649 --> 01:26:33,109 [audience applauds] 1894 01:26:33,234 --> 01:26:34,610 [Barack Obama] Because you're eating healthy, 1895 01:26:34,735 --> 01:26:36,529 and you're out there active and you're playing 1896 01:26:36,654 --> 01:26:38,114 sports and you're out in the playground 1897 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,701 and doing all those things, not only 1898 01:26:41,826 --> 01:26:44,704 are you gonna have a better life, 1899 01:26:44,829 --> 01:26:46,956 but you're also helping to create 1900 01:26:47,081 --> 01:26:48,499 a stronger, healthier America, 1901 01:26:48,624 --> 01:26:50,251 and that saves us money, it means people 1902 01:26:50,376 --> 01:26:52,712 are not sick as much, it means that 1903 01:26:52,837 --> 01:26:55,005 our health care costs go down, 1904 01:26:55,131 --> 01:26:58,134 When you roll up at a McDonalds, what does Donald Trump order? 1905 01:26:58,300 --> 01:27:01,470 A Fish-O-Filet sometimes, right, 1906 01:27:01,595 --> 01:27:04,682 The Big Macs are great, the Quarter pounder with cheese, I mean there's great stuff, 1907 01:27:04,807 --> 01:27:06,934 Do people at the windows be like, "What?" 1908 01:27:07,059 --> 01:27:08,352 I think all of those places, Burger King 1909 01:27:08,477 --> 01:27:10,396 McDonalds, I can live with them, 1910 01:27:10,521 --> 01:27:12,314 I had the other night, I had Kentucky Fried Chicken, 1911 01:27:12,440 --> 01:27:13,816 not the worst thing in the world, 1912 01:27:14,442 --> 01:27:16,110 If you think it's up to Government, you're wrong, 1913 01:27:16,235 --> 01:27:17,945 if you think it's up to industry, 1914 01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:20,239 you're wrong, it's up to you, And if you're gonna 1915 01:27:20,364 --> 01:27:22,450 make a change, if you're watching this, 1916 01:27:22,575 --> 01:27:24,869 change right now, tonight, don't wait 1917 01:27:24,994 --> 01:27:27,163 until tomorrow, if it's a Friday night 1918 01:27:27,329 --> 01:27:29,248 don't say Monday you're gonna start, 1919 01:27:29,373 --> 01:27:32,168 start now, there's no time better than right now 1920 01:27:32,293 --> 01:27:34,170 to get your life in order, 1921 01:27:34,295 --> 01:27:35,671 [dramatic music] 1922 01:28:04,742 --> 01:28:07,203 [somber music] 1923 01:29:25,906 --> 01:29:29,743 I've been doing a podcast with Anna Vocino for about seven years, 1924 01:29:29,869 --> 01:29:33,622 When we first started the podcast, uh, nobody was listening, 1925 01:29:33,747 --> 01:29:35,791 Someone's gone, alright, I wanna lose weight 1926 01:29:35,916 --> 01:29:38,252 wait, that steak is 1200 calories, 1927 01:29:39,169 --> 01:29:42,006 This bowl of pasta is 500 calories less? 1928 01:29:42,131 --> 01:29:44,300 And, as a woman, you're told 1929 01:29:44,425 --> 01:29:46,260 don't eat more than 1200 calories a day 1930 01:29:46,385 --> 01:29:48,304 if you wanna lose weight, so you think 1931 01:29:48,429 --> 01:29:50,681 oh, I can't have that steak, because that's my whole day! 1932 01:29:50,806 --> 01:29:52,433 We started attracting the attention 1933 01:29:52,558 --> 01:29:54,518 of people in the low carb community, 1934 01:29:54,643 --> 01:29:57,146 doctors, authors, like Gary Taubes 1935 01:29:57,271 --> 01:29:59,273 and Nina Teicholz, it's important for us 1936 01:29:59,398 --> 01:30:01,901 to have the experts on, 'cause we're like see 1937 01:30:02,026 --> 01:30:03,277 what that guy said [laughs], 1938 01:30:03,402 --> 01:30:06,614 Anna also, turns out, is a great cook, 1939 01:30:06,739 --> 01:30:09,283 [Anna] As a person who works with food a lot, 1940 01:30:09,408 --> 01:30:12,244 I get asked many questions about 1941 01:30:12,369 --> 01:30:15,998 fake sweeteners or fake this or fake that 1942 01:30:16,123 --> 01:30:18,125 and I personally think it's gonna have to 1943 01:30:18,250 --> 01:30:19,710 go in an even more natural direction 1944 01:30:19,835 --> 01:30:22,212 to where we just have this return to just 1945 01:30:22,338 --> 01:30:26,008 eating food in its most natural state, 1946 01:30:35,184 --> 01:30:37,728 Vinnie and I are very passionate 1947 01:30:37,853 --> 01:30:39,480 about this topic, let's say you watched 1948 01:30:39,605 --> 01:30:41,315 this documentary, let's say you watched 1949 01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:43,067 the others and you're like, this is it, 1950 01:30:43,192 --> 01:30:45,903 I'm gonna do this, I am going to give up 1951 01:30:46,028 --> 01:30:47,529 the processed sugars and grains 1952 01:30:47,655 --> 01:30:50,157 and I'm gonna go for a high-fat, low-carb diet 1953 01:30:50,282 --> 01:30:53,160 and which you should, do it, try it, 1954 01:30:53,285 --> 01:30:57,831 It can't hurt to not have sugars and grains, 1955 01:30:57,957 --> 01:31:01,835 Like just try it, When that happens 1956 01:31:01,961 --> 01:31:03,921 and there's an adjustment phase, 1957 01:31:04,046 --> 01:31:06,757 all of us in this country, myself included, 1958 01:31:06,882 --> 01:31:08,676 have been in the diet mentality, 1959 01:31:08,801 --> 01:31:10,970 If we can peel back that diet mentality, 1960 01:31:11,095 --> 01:31:12,304 it would be amazing, 1961 01:31:12,930 --> 01:31:15,182 โ™ช โ™ช 150969

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