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Yeah, well,
you're not truly one of us
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until you've dated a demon.
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It's the oldest story in the world.
Girl meets demon, girl falls in love,
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girl breaks up,
girl goes back to demon.
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| loved so many of their boyfriends,
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and | always felt so bad for the girls
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that they couldn't ever really find love
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throughout eight years,
and then they finally did.
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I'll call you.
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| will answer.
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Yes.
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Tell them I'm getting closer.
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Julian is so sexy, and so dynamic
and so sort of powerful,
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and so evil when he's evil,
and so good when he's good.
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He was so conflicted
in being part human, part demon,
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and such an interesting character
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in his relationship with Phoebe.
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| Know who you were,
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who you used to be,
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and that's not the person
you are anymore.
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Aren't |?
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Belthazor still exists inside of me.
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That hasn't changed,
nor does it change
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what I've done.
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But just think of all the good
you've done since then.
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You see why
he was Phoebe's true love.
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You see why, but you also see
that bad side of him that you know,
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like, it could never work out.
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| think that women
loved the story line so much because
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they could relate to
falling for the bad guy.
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The impossible love
that you can't quite make work
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but you wanna make work.
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That was something that
always touched me.
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Phoebe, we tried it up there.
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It doesn't work for us.
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So where does that leave us?
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The minute they were
on-screen together,
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you know, you sensed
the chemistry between them.
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They had a natural chemistry
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that translated well,
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and that's, you know, the key
to any great relationship.
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It was so thrilling to be able to
get him back for the 150th.
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There was a moment in that episode
where he walks by
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and she feel-- She senses him,
even though she can't see him,
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and it's, you know, it's
that sort of eternal love.
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Oh, my God.
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Let me call you back.
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Jason!
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Jason Dean came in
and he was Phoebe's boss,
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and he had all sorts of visions about
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changing the newspaper around.
He was a real go-getter.
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| just thought he was
such a great match for Phoebe,
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and | think all of the writers
wanted them to get married.
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We just thought,
"Here is the guy that, like,
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he's big, he's handsome,
he's smart, he has his own career.
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He shouldn't be threatened."
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| love the moment where he finds out
that Phoebe's a witch
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and he just passes out.
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This big, strapping guy
just passes out.
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| mean, wouldn't you faint
if you found out
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your significant other was a witch?
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He was not for her
not just because he couldn't handle
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her magic, but because
he had a life of his own.
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That scene when
they say goodbye in the rain,
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you just felt that pain
and you felt so sad for them.
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It's a scene that | felt absolutely
privileged to be part of,
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not because of anything that | did,
but because of what they did,
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and the emotion they put behind it.
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Eric and | had actually
broken up in real life,
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because | dated him for a little bit.
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And so | was able to tap into, like,
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a legitimate thing, as an actress,
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and sort of pull up
this memory of when
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Eric and | broke up,
and allowed that moment to transpire
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within the scene.
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- Hey.
- Richard.
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What are you doing here?
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| came to apologise.
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We liked the idea
of there being a magic-aholic
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in the sisters' lives,
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someone who showed
the bad side of magic,
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and what could happen if
you used too much of it
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and you basically couldn't stop.
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What would make me really happy
is if you just stopped
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with all the potions and all the magic,
just for a while.
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He had the magical version of
substance-control issues.
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He was really addicted to magic.
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It's almost like she's falling in love
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with a part of herself that's obsessive,
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that can't let go,
that does it too much,
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and then she sees it in him
and she's like, "Whoa."
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It kind of makes her look at
herself and say:
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"You know, I'm a little
like that myself."
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Richard.
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- What?
- Just stop.
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I can't.
I did this. | need to fix it.
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No. Hey, please.
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Just, no more magic.
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I'd better call you back.
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Hi. | hope it's okay.
| just wanted to get started.
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Leslie?
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Surprise!
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She thinks of herself
as this, you know,
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woman who knows everything
there is to know
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about, you know,
relationships and love,
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and in comes this man who has
an equally unique take
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on relationships,
but from the male perspective,
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which gave them a lot
to bicker about,
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and was the basis for
the stories that we had.
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There was some good advice in there,
considering you're a guy.
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Well, thanks, | think.
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He was a challenge for her
because he was charming
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and sexy and so funny,
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yet he was horrible to her
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and just loved tormenting her,
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and knew he was, you know,
he had her where he wanted her,
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and she was frustrated by him.
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When they meet Nick Lachey
the first time,
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she's under a spell, and soon as she
sees him, she starts to fall in love.
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She starts chasing him
around the office
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and ends up kissing him.
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The tension building to that kiss
had been building so long.
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They were so giddy
by the time they actually kissed.
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It was pretty funny.
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| figured since we got the first kiss
out of the way and everything...
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- Out of the way?
- Sorry.
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My character was designed
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as a love interest
for Rose's character, Paige.
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You hungry?
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Starving.
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| think we should go, then.
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We also wanted him to tie into
the overarching mythology that year
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which involved the Avatars,
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and what we discovered
along the way was that
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his parents were
murdered by the Avatars
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and he had
a grudge against them.
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When my parents uncovered this,
they didn't just discover a potion,
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they discovered a battle fought
5,000 years ago over our future.
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They fought the Avatars then,
and we gotta fight them now.
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He came in and plunged in
full-bore, with full enthusiasm
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and won both the respect
of the actors and of the crew.
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| really liked Kerr and, you know,
| loved his character,
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and, you know,
she was in love with him.
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Parting is such sweet sorrow.
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He was right.
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I never knew what that meant
until right now.
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Billy Zane was the next demon
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who was mortal, who could understand
what Phoebe had gone through,
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but he only got to live for a year.
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They were so mismatched,
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but yet he brought out
sort of a fun, playful side of her
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that | think she needed
at that time in her life.
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He sort of showed her
that she could love again
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and that she would find love
and when he left, it wasn't--
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It was poignant,
but it was so beautiful
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because she was left with hope
that she would find love again.
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And then there's a scene
in the ending
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where Drake actually talks to Cole
as he's moving on,
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and so you get this moment of
both these ex-boyfriends
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sort of talking about how much
they loved Phoebe.
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| loved that moment.
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You did all that | asked for.
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You saved Phoebe.
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| did more than that, buddy.
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| fell in love with her.
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Understandably.
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Farewell, my friend.
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You don't need to fight me, Phoebe.
I'm on your side.
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- Like hell you are.
- He's been sent down by the elders
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to find Phoebe love
and, you know, the children
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that she was promised to have,
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and he ends up
falling in love with her.
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Because | love you, Phoebe Halliwell,
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with all of my heart,
with every fiber in my being,
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| love you.
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Now, I've found love
for thousands of people
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all over the world, but | have never
found love for myself, not until now.
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Until you. And | know
you feel the same way
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because | can see it.
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| know what love looks like.
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And | am not letting this
get away from us, Phoebe.
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And that was the Elders’ plan
the entire time, so it worked perfectly.
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We were supposed to fall
for each other,
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and have these beautiful children
and get married.
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Phoebe falling in love with Cupid.
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| thought that that was really sweet.
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When someone specifically
asks me out on a date,
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- that maybe--
- Who did that?
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- You did.
- 1--? No.
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Yeah. You said,
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"Would you like to go for lunch
on a date?"
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| said, "Would you like to go for lunch
at Nate's?"
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When they first meet
they're like, you know,
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water and oil. | mean,
they couldn't be more different.
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He's just, like, hardcore realist
probation officer,
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just down and dirty.
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And she's just, you know, like,
this little angelic--
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Believes in the human spirit.
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- | love her.
- And | love him.
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Paige. Paige, you can't be serious.
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Yeah, we're both serious.
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The fact that they could sort of
get it together
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and work it out,
and end up getting married
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| just thought was pretty great.
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| think if there's probably one
relationship that defines Charmed
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- itis the Piper-Leo story.
- You have two people
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who are destined to be together and
they are the heart and soul of the show.
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Very early in season one,
Leo arrived posing as a handyman,
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and then it was later
revealed to them
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that he was, in fact, magical,
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and, in fact, the whitelighter,
their guide.
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And Piper and Leo fell in love
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and he had to choose her love
over being a whitelighter/Elder.
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When he jumped off the bridge
and became human,
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he took, literally, a leap of faith.
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That's the true romantic love.
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I think that's what, you know,
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sort of the archetype of what
we all want.
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The had a real chemistry,
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and when actors have that
chemistry with one another,
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it just makes that story,
that relationship on film
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that much more believable.
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And there's something about Leo
in that Leo dies.
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She'd seen him, had him die
so many times before, you know.
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They'd been through these moments,
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and every time, they were able
to make it real, honest
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and like it never
had happened before.
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Leo. Leo, come on.
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These are those moments that
you really live for, as a director,
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to watch these talented people
do their thing.
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Brian was with me for so long,
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it was, like, you know,
we had that one part
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in the last season where
he wasn't there,
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and it was literally like
| was missing, like, my right arm.
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Piper and Leo's relationship
was sort of the emotional core
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of the show.
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| always wanted a happy ending
for Charmed,
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and you can't have a happy ending
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without the Piper-Leo
relationship working out.
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And at the very end of the show,
the very last thing we see
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are old-- Eighty-year old.
--Piper and Leo,
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climbing the stairs,
going up to the bedroom.
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