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The Mullen brothers? Who are they?
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They're dicks.
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- Dicks.
- No, like private eyes. Detectives.
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Don't you see? They write themselves
in as the heroes of their own books.
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Like Sam Spade
or Philip Marlowe.
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When | came in to do Charmed
for the first time,
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by chance, | was handed the script
"Charmed Noir."
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Do | know him?
I've never seen him before in my life.
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Because it was
my first episode of Charmed
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and Charmed had been
around at that point for over six years,
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| was a little bit concerned
about how much
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the producers would let me do
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outside of what Charmed
would normally look like.
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So | spoke to them about it, | said,
"| have some very specific ideas,
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if you're willing to really, you know,
let this fly and have some fun with it."
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And they said, "Go for it."
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The first thing they had to do
was go to the network and get approval
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to air black and white,
which doesn't happen a lot.
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Networks are very hesitant to
allow things to be broadcast
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in black and white.
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And that was
an important element,
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because if we couldn't
do the novel in black and white,
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it would really change, stylistically,
the way | would shoot it.
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You were saying?
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Thanks, guys.
Could you be any less subtle?
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So once they agreed to go to
black and white,
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| could then adopt
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a very, very specific film-noir look
to what I was going to do,
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and they gave me permission to push
that way past any reasonable limit,
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which is why it was so much fun
to watch and to shoot.
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You're a little heartbreaker, aren't you?
A regular femme fatale.
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It was an opportunity to actually
draw back from my past in film school,
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and remember the noir period and
remember the films that they showed,
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and actually apply many of those
visual effects to what we were doing.
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| had worked very closely
with the director of photography,
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we were very interested
in making sure that
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although we were shooting in color
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and we were gonna take
the black and white out,
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that the lighting would support
the finished look in black and white.
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We just got to do something
completely different.
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The camera angles we were doing.
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Taking a camera up over
a ceiling fan for a shot.
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Everybody involved
had a great time with it.
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Everyone in the period costumes,
all the cars,
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and then just the campy-ness
of what it was that we were doing,
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and they completely embraced it
and had a ball.
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Mylie?
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No, don't!
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"A Witch's Tail." This was a key
moment in the history of Charmed,
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because we moved
to Sunday night,
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and we knew we had to
come out with a splash.
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So from the studio on down,
we were gonna do everything we could
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to make this
the best possible episode.
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Two weeks before we
started shooting it,
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Holly calls me up and she says,
"The script is great, | think it's terrific.
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I'm really excited
about the fifth season.
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I think you're gonna have a little
trouble with Alyssa, though,
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because she is
deathly afraid of the water."
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Will someone please get me back
to the ocean before | suffocate?
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- | need the water.
- You want water? I'll get you some.
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Five days before shooting,
script comes out,
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we get a call from Alyssa saying,
"There's something you need to know.
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I'm deathly afraid of the water,
and | won't go in the ocean."
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You are holding me hostage.
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- Yep, looks like it.
- Look, | am not a common goldfish.
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| cannot ignore the call of the sea.
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Well, the call of the common bathtub
is just gonna have to do.
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It was such a great script,
it was gonna be a great episode,
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but Alyssa wasn't going to do it.
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She did it, but mostly
it was a combination of her,
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you know, doing more
than she was comfortable doing
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and us shooting in such a way,
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both with a double and just
with some very clever camera angles.
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She agreed to go into the water
up to her waist,
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and we used stunt doubles for
everything else.
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We had a tank
on-stage where the cavern was.
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Whenever she was in that water, we
had a stunt person in there for safety.
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We met with people who had done
mermaids before.
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We looked at a lot of film,
we picked a guy who supplied the tail.
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Now we had to design
what the top was gonna look like.
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And a lot of that had to go with
how much Alyssa was willing to bare.
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It was all bare chest, except she had
a little bit of mermaid stuff
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right over her breasts and nipples.
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In fact, when the network first saw it,
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they were shocked at how revealing
she was allowing it to be.
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And she was fantastic.
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She loved making people laugh
and getting into the costumes,
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so she was fantastic
with that part of it.
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Okay, all | need are my sea friends
and little shiny objects
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and to lay on a rock and
comb out my hair.
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So to do a mermaid episode,
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with a woman who is
deathly afraid of the water,
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and pull that off, | think is probably
one of the most magical things we did.
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Excalibur.
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In "Sword in the City" we had
a gaggle of magical creatures.
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Back of the line, please.
Hoof it, sister.
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Chris. Chris, get down here.
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We had 20 little magical creatures
in one little room,
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and it was quite amusing.
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Big to little.
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There's a moment where Piper's in
doing some potions
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and Danny comes in to grab her.
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Hey, lady, we could really use
an authority figure out there.
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A bunch of the stuff that's
in that sequence, he just threw out.
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I mean, the guy was amazing.
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It was so wonderful
to watch him do his thing.
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- What is this?
- Natural selection.
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Naturally, | hope the sword
selects me to be king.
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Finally get a little respect
around here.
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One of my favourite episodes
was "Happily Ever After"
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because | got to do
three completely different fairy tales
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and shoot them in
three completely different styles.
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I'll split the witches up
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and make sure that none of them
lives happily ever after.
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That was a great deal of fun,
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and it was funny because
the girls really embraced
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their three story lines as well.
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The ballroom scene
in "Happily Ever After"
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with Sean Patrick Flanery,
and we had a beautiful set
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that Paul Staheli had designed.
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We had a big crane, and we were
able to do interesting shots.
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That was a particularly satisfying day
for everyone concerned, | think.
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It was a lot of fun,
and Alyssa was just great in the part.
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Paige.
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| really liked
"A Paige From the Past"
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because it was
the first year with Rose,
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and it was the first time
that we did something
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with Rose that was different.
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We put her in braces,
made her be a teenager.
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I'm all right, I'm all--
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Wrong! Oh, my God. | saw Scrooged,
I'm supposed to come back as a ghost.
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Not a ghost with braces.
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And she did that transition very well,
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where she could tend to be a
teenager but she was still herself.
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| can't believe | remember
the combination.
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| used to live out of this locker.
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I mean, she had a scene
where she's describing
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what happened to her parents
to the other girls.
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It's her first heavy, dramatic scene,
and she was having trouble with it.
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And the second take,
not great but okay,
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so | said, "Okay, we have it.
I'll let you do one more,
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but we do have it,
so don't worry about it."
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Now that she thought she had it,
because we told her she had it,
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then she let it go, and it was great.
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He didn't see the car that swerved
into our lane.
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The next thing | know,
I'm on the pavement. The car's on fire.
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| love Rose.
| love the fact that she came in
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in a difficult situation and found a way
to fit in very quickly with the crew.
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"Bite Me" really centered around her
becoming a vampiress.
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| asked her to do things like
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hang upside down from a trapeze
at a certain point.
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And things that other people
were concerned that she wouldn't do,
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and she absolutely did them.
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She became an integral
and important part of the show.
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As is evidenced by the fact that
she was there for five seasons.
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In "Scry Hard" there's a dollhouse,
an exact replica of the manor,
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and we had to create a real dollhouse
that looked like the manor,
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and then Leo and Piper,
shrunk down by Wyatt
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and trapped inside the manor because
they're fighting, he gets mad at them.
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So we had to basically
build a little house.
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That was actually really, really cool.
It's amazing we got it done,
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because we'd only have
eight days to prep.
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And then we were shooting,
so we found out as soon as we could.
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The production team
started building it,
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and by the time we were shooting,
thank God we had it.
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For me, that was one of the
biggest challenges, was to sell the fact
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that they were in
a really small dollhouse,
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and not in the real manor.
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And shooting it from different angles
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that gave us the feeling
that this was a small house,
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and that they were small, because we
were intercutting with other scenes
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where people were full-sized
in the real manor,
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walking around this dollhouse.
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So that was a challenge,
but | think we pulled it off pretty well.
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I think that
"The Bare Witch Project" was
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one of the more challenging episodes,
and one of the more satisfying ones.
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| remember getting
the script on that and thinking,
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you know, "How are we gonna
pull this off in eight days?"
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Because it is so massive, there were
so many effects in that show.
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Who the hell are you?
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I've had it with you
and your stupid ideas.
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- Ready to summon?
- Yep. All ready to go.
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We had partial nudity with Kristen.
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What's wrong?
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If you would just listen to me.
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That's just a lot.
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It is apparently still the only way
| can get anybody to listen to me.
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Woman, keep your clothes on,
this is a family show.
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Working with Kristen
on "Bare Witch Project"
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was a great coup, both for
the show and for me because
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she was very daring, and a trouper,
and she's such a wonderful actor,
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and so incredibly pretty,
it was just a pleasure to work with her.
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Finally. I'm free.
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Yes, you are.
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All right, let's eighty-six
that kind of talk, now, people.
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We will not give up on love.
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Repeat, not give up on love.
Love is everything. It's the only thing.
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It's why you're here,
it's why I'm here.
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The interesting thing about doing
"The Seven Year Witch"
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which was the 175th episode,
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was a bringing together
of cast from the past
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that obviously were very successful
in their own right, after the fact,
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and trying to get everybody onto
the set at the same time
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basically proved impossible.
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There was a long sequence where
Holly was unconscious on the sofa,
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and everybody was there, but we never
had everybody there at the same time.
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There were literally
three different days that we shot
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those scenes with different people.
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So Julian, who was over on one side
talking to Holly, was on one day.
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What beauty.
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She doth teach the torches
to burn bright.
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And what was going on
on the sofa was another day.
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And when Billy Zane made
his entrance from the stairs
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was a third day.
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So we never had everybody
there at the same time,
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but had to create scenes where
everybody was talking to each other.
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Look, we know you have Leo.
Bring him down here now.
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The whole episode of
"The Seven Year Witch"
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is about Brian being put in a position
of making a choice.
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But making a choice
without the knowledge
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of what the ramifications
of those choices are.
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And ultimately, his choice
to jump off that bridge,
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he doesn't know that that's
gonna get him back to Holly,
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but he knows it's what his choice is,
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to choose that over
staying where he was.
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No Elder has ever done that before.
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- You take away my family, and | will.
- This is about you making a choice.
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That is the dilemma, and that is
the crossroads that he faces.
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There's a shot where
the girls catch up with him.
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We did a high shot
over the truck as it stopped.
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It was right at a crossroads,
and then he's told,
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"This is where you
have to decide what to do.”
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You need to make a choice.
Every man does.
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| know.
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And it's not directly referenced, the fact
that it is a crossroads, but it's in there.
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You're gonna be on a series
for many, many years,
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it can get boring if they're
doing the same thing every week.
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Well, that was never
the case on Charmed.
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Every week,
it was completely different.
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Whether it'd be bats or vampires and
the warlocks, it was never the same.
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So each week, you had the arc
with the girls' dramatic lives,
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which was fantastic.
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Thank you, guys.
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On top of that, you mix in the demons
and the warlocks and the fireballs,
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and you have a nice stew of fun.
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