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The United Kingdom
is totally fucked.
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Uh, I say that with a heavy heart.
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I think this country has--
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in the short space of eight years,
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from the Olympics, which we now look
back on as this incredible high,
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and it was a high...
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To get from there to where we are,
by degrees,
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is desperately sad.
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But it-- it's also--
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It also means that, uh...
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we need humour and satire
more than ever.
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MAN: '..experimental medicine
at Imperial College, London,
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'has said the UK needs to act fast
to stop coronavirus cases...
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'..the rule of six coming in on
Monday, it's a restriction,
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'the plan for Birmingham,
Solihull and Sandwell,
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'banning people from different
households from socialising...
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'..have to change parts
of the EU withdrawal agreement.
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'He said the government
collectively has a responsibility,
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'and they've got to resolve...
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'..restriction in northern England
are going to include
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'Liverpool, Warrington, Hartlepool
and Middlesbrough...
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'..EU are set to go
before Parliament later.
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'Boris Johnson is attempting
to push through
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'the internal market...'
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(BIRDSONG)
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Cold War Steve began in,
I think it was March 2016.
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Cold War Steve is Steve McFadden,
Phil Mitchell,
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who was in a Cold War scene.
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And the joke was just the
incongruous picture
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of Steve McFadden in that scenario.
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When it began, it was just...
"Does this look funny?"
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There was no thought
about meaning or...
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or context or anything like that.
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And that's something
that's evolved over the time.
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I didn't know anything
about Photoshop
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or... or anything like that,
it was just done...
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cut out Phil Mitchell,
put him in a photo.
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I certainly didn't set out
to create artistic masterpieces
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or anything like that.
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I've had bad mental health issues
for my whole adult life,
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but the beginning of 2016
was the lowest point,
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you know, I was hospitalised,
and coming out of there...
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I decided I needed to...
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Because I'd see things on the news
or something,
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and I'd be ranting and then just
get pissed, and, you know...
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there was no outlook for anything,
so...
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I decided to channel it
into something positive,
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or something creative or
something that would be funny.
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And... so it was just... this
kind of form of therapy, really,
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in just making the pictures
and stuff like that.
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If no one had liked it, I still
would have carried on,
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because I enjoyed
making the pictures,
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but it... it was brilliant that,
along with making me feel better,
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erm, it also got really popular.
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I was sent a Cold War Steve,
uh, collage, around 2016,
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and just thought, "What is this?"
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I had to make it bigger
on my phone,
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and it was just the joy of
recognising people,
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I thought, "Oh, that's someone...
that's someone I know,"
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It's lots of faces
from the '70s and '80s,
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so I thought, "Hang on, this seems
to be artwork geared to me."
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It was quite early on, it was
at the height of Brexit fever,
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and so that's, uh, a lot of...
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uh... a lot of that
would involve buses
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and, um... Michael Gove
and Boris Johnson... (CHUCKLING)
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...and the...
the... the wrecking crew.
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I first came across Cold War Steve
like I think a lot of people did.
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I just stumbled across him
on Twitter,
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and was captivated by these images,
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and was struck by how quickly
the kind of people I knew
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who were also on social media
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were talking to each other
about him.
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Very quickly,
there was this sense that...
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this was someone special, it wasn't
just someone who'd come up with
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a bit of a Twitter parody,
um, shtick.
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They were really profound
and worthy of exploration.
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Some are obviously more apparent
than others.
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I don't like to be too obvious.
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You know, I use the... the symbolism
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or different recurring themes
that come back,
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and just put them in.
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But I never title them,
I just put the.. the picture up.
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STEPHEN: I think the reason
that his works survive,
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and continue to enthral
and beguile,
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is because they don't tell you
what to think about them.
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First of all, you look to see where
Steve McFadden...
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(LAUGHING) ..is going to be
standing or sitting,
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and what he's watching,
then you follow his eyeline,
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then you look at the other people
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and say,
"What are they looking at?
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"And have you created what
you're looking at?"
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If it's a rubbish tip,
"Did you make that rubbish tip?
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"Or are you responding--"
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You know, all this extraordinary
conversation goes on
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through the eyes and the...
the placing of figures.
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And yet...
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two people could come to it
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and see a totally different
conversation going on.
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The whole point of Cold War Steve
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is you have these brilliant
associations with people who...
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Like, Harold Shipman,
I've noticed, has come up a lot.
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Because Harold Shipman
killed lots of old people,
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I thought, "Oh, OK,
what's that about?
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"Aah, that might be about the
deaths happening in care homes."
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And then I saw Harold Shipman
in the middle of,
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it must be some kind
of Conservative office,
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and there, just in the corner,
playing music,
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is Harold Shipman and Fred West.
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And you think,
"What's Fred West doing there?
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"He was a child killer."
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And actually, you're now thinking,
"Is he saying that actually,
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"now kids are going back to school
during a pandemic,
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"they're killing children again?"
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And that is dark,
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but somehow, hilarious.
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And the fact that we can say that
in this country
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is exactly what makes
this country brilliant.
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It's what makes this country--
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it's a free country
and we have freedom of speech.
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I filled in a form recently,
it says "occupation"
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and I put "artist",
and it just felt really weird.
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Cos I-- I mean, I am, that's what
I do for a living, is... art,
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but I don't think I'll ever...
feel, you know...
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totally comfortable in saying it.
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I don't know, it just--
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The main thing I get...
mental health was,
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that I struggle with, is, um...
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imposter syndrome, I think.
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And just sitting here now is...
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When I'm talking, like,
every so often I think,
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"What the fuck are they
filming me for?" (LAUGHS)
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Cos I'm still, you know, a factory
worker or working on the roads,
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and, you know, this is so new.
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Cos I've been doing it as a job
for just over a year now,
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when I gave up the day job.
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So that... the pressure's there,
like, "What if it all ends?
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"What if it stops? I'm fucked.
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"I can't...
You know, I've got to..."
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So there's that, but then there's
always this... this kind of...
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you know, it can't be right,
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I can't be having stuff in museums
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and galleries
and exhibitions and stuff,
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because, you know, I was cleaning
cones on the M42 in the snow,
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like, you know, seven years ago.
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For me, a clear comparison
that I draw
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between Cold War Steve works
and art history
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is with the Dada artists
who emerged after World War I.
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And they invented photo collage,
and this montage,
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and they were... they were
cut and pasting political leaders
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surrounded by machine-guns
and, um, weapons of technology.
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They were critiquing the world
they saw around them,
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and for me,
that's what great art does.
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It doesn't just reflect what's
happening in the world,
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it challenges it,
and that's what
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Cold War Steve's doing
with his work.
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The social and political landscape
of now is turbulent.
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Um... there is more information
that is...
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uh, that-- that is
at my fingertips now
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than has ever been before.
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I can find out more about
what is wrong with now,
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and I can tell more people
about it.
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And they can tell more people
about it,
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and they can tell
more people about it,
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and then we can shout back,
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and then we can take that
information and we can march,
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and we can meet, and we can talk,
and we can, um...
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we can fight back.
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Every piece that I end up doing,
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first of all I do on a sort
of cheap cut and paste app.
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So, I'll find the background
that I think I want to use...
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So, it's just a very basic
cut and paste...
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So, I've got him,
and then it's placing him
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where I think I will want him,
and getting the size, and...
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Just like a sketchbook, I suppose,
of different ideas, and...
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Some will take hours, and I'll--
I'll use layer after layer,
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and some layers
I'll get rid of, and...
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But then, some I can just sit down
and do very quickly,
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and they're just as popular
as the ones that take hours.
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They do remind me of...
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Erm, it's so easy to sound
pretentious
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when you start talking about
high art,
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but, you know, Bruegel,
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and, um, even Hieronymous Bosch,
and Hogarth,
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and you think of big panels,
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Marriage A-la-Mode
and Rake's Progress, and so on,
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they do show... the sort of mud
and dirt of English life.
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And that's something
that isn't often shown.
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You know, there's
a pastoral English view
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that Samuel Palmer
and other painters show you,
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and Stanley Spencer shows you
something rather sweet as well.
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But, uh... Cold War Steve
shows you--
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shows you the sort of...
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that we're all peasants,
we're all in the mud somehow.
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Um, and I think that's a very
important part of what art can do.
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It doesn't just ennoble, it also
brings us properly down to earth.
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This is all you, this is your...
WOMAN: What?
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...displays of pride.Makes me seem
very unsupportive, doesn't it?
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MAN: But you're proud of him,
Katie.Yeah!
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You are proud of him?
I am.
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Yeah.
Yeah, really, genuinely.
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What's your favourite piece?
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Name one. (LAUGHTER)
That one. That one there,
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cos that's from Birmingham,
so, yeah.
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Probably that one.
Benny.Yeah.
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Which is now going to be
in the Birmingham gallery.Yes.
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That's nice.
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That one.
Yeah.
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What's your favourite Twitter one?
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I'm not on Twitter.
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Oh.
(LAUGHS)
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That's probably-- that's probably
a good idea, isn't it?
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Well, yeah. You don't want
to be too involved.
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It might go to his head.
Yeah.
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Katie's very, uh, grounding.
Yes.
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In a good way. I like to have,
like, the-- the indifference.Yes.
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(BOTH LAUGH)
Yeah!
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No, I just leave him
to get on with it.Hm.
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Cos there's-- there's other things
for me to be getting on with.
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Three children, a horse for a dog.
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The house, the job.
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What do you think of this,
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Cold War Steve Meets the Outside
World, then?
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(CHUCKLES)
Yeah, it's good. It's very good.
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It's nice to know that people
appreciate what he does.Mm.
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And get it.
And get it, because I don't.
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(LAUGHS)
Right.
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So, Cold War Steve
Meets the Outside World,
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because everything
that I've done is small-scale,
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designed for people to look at
on a phone,
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this is taking it
beyond the next level.
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So we're going big, outdoors,
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in a sort of situationist way.
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And it's a tour of... a kind
of road trip around England,
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starting at the Riverside Country
Park, I think it is, in the Medway,
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which obviously, cos it's such a
monumental year news-wise for...
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Um... obviously, the pandemic,
so it's...
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it kind of made sense
to maybe get... a best of the year
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in the, uh... in the location.
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And then, after Medway,
I think we're... Bournemouth.
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So it's...
a huge, two-sided windbreak.
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One side positive, and the reverse
side will be very unflattering.
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And then, Liverpool, um...
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it's gonna be a giant jigsaw,
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floating on Albert Dock.
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The final piece will be sending
a postcard, a giant postcard,
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from Birmingham,
from the Spaghetti Junction,
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sending it to Coventry,
which is where we're heading now.
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So we're coming up now,
I think, to the Coventry Basin,
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where I'm gonna meet Carl.
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He's kind of my main man,
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my mentor, manager,
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uh...
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It's more than a manager
or agent type,
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which I value him for,
he's, you know...
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someone that I can...
sort of discuss things creatively...
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So I'll do my...
my pictures and things like that,
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but outside of releasing things
on Twitter,
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it;s good to have, um... you know,
Carl there to...
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to make suggestions and...
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Oh, there he is! Yay!
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Just talking about you, mate,
to camera.Oh, right.
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Saying what a loathsome
arsehole you are.
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(BOTH LAUGH)
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Terrible pain in the arse.
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This is a really nice location,
isn't it?
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I think it's great.
And hopefully,
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the weather will be like this
permanently, as well.(LAUGHS)
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Well, that bridge is bloody low,
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but apparently,
we've got it sorted, so...
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the artwork
is gonna nicely tuck away...
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Pass underneath these low bridges.
..and pass underneath it.
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We shall see.
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We'll get, maybe, Sam Allardyce,
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to be on the barge.
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Is Allardyce gonna feature
in the artwork, then?No.
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But I think he could be good
as the driver.
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Yeah?Steering it.
Yeah.You know?
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(CHUCKLES)Why... why do you feel
the need to have C celebrities...
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D celebrities...
Yeah...
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..people on the periphery...
But they're always, um...
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Like Sam Allardyce.
That was...
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that was something
I used from the start,
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as a-- a kind of blurring of
celebrity culture and... leaders.
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It stops the piece
becoming too earnest.
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We're filming it from Spaghetti
Junction in Birmingham...Yeah.
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Yeah.
...to here.Yeah?
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How long do you think
that would take?
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Probably three days.
(LAUGHS)But you'd be really...
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I thought we'd do it in a day.
I thought a day.
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But you'd be really pushed...
Like, set off at ten,
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we'll be pulling into
here at five.
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Birmingham, from the 19th century,
through the 20th century,
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up till today, has been
the home of so many radical
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and disruptive artists.
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Birmingham is the second city,
there's this outsider feel to it,
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so artists feel, perhaps...
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Well, maybe they feel like
they have more to prove,
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or maybe they feel more like
there's nothing to lose.
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But either way, it means the art
coming out of Birmingham
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has always been more radical
than other places.
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Birmingham definitely shapes your
outlook on... on the world
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and on, uh, you know, political
matters and things like that.
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And it's very influential
in what I do.
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By and large, it's a bit shit,
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but we, as Brummies,
we know it's a bit shit.
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We don't try and pretend it isn't,
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which is part of its charm.
(CHUCKLES)
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If Cold War Steve's humour was,
strictly speaking,
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just Brummie humour, he wouldn't
be so popular nationwide
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and all... and around the world.
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It may be Brummie humour,
but he's found a way of speaking
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from a Brummie perspective
that people connect with.
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It's pretty, uh...
Hardcore.
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Fuckin' hell. So this is only
about four miles from your house.
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Yeah. Mediaeval, isn't it?
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Does anyone know which way
Coventry actually is?
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It's this way, look. Minworth,
Tamworth, 40 miles. So...Ah.
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Yeah, I mean, that... that is a...
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It is a great spot.
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Yeah.So you've got one...
You've got one that just...
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Oh, right. Birmingham
and Fazeley Canal.Right.
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This is where three canals meet.
(LAUGHS)
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Great stuff for the launch pad.
The launch pad would be here.
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There's something
about the bleakness
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and the kind of overbearing
concrete structures
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that are around us that...
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I think they're quite powerful.
331
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I mean, I'll probably think about
this later on tonight
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and have a cold sweat.
333
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But I think, in terms of locations,
it's perfect, isn't it?
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We can maybe
get some dignitaries down here,
335
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to wave us off.
336
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WOMAN: 'The government's
drawing up plans
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'to override parts of the
Brexit withdrawal deal.
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'Critics say ministers are putting
EU protocol...'(MACHINE WHIRRING)
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COLD WAR STEVE: We're meeting Adam,
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the man who's gonna materialise
our massive project,
341
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so it'll be interesting to see him,
342
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because I haven't got a clue
how he's going to do... (LAUGHS)
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..what we've got planned.
344
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But apparently,
he's the man who can.
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(LAUGHS)
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Hello, mate.Hello!
Wahey!(ALL LAUGHING)
347
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After you, mate.How you doing?
Pretty good.
348
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(CHUCKLING)
349
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Hey, man, you all right?
How are you?Very good.
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Come in, into the office.
Yeah!Excellent.
351
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Everything OK?
Yeah, excellent.
352
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Nice to finally meet you off Zoom.
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This is cool.
Quiet spot, as well.
354
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Yeah, it's great, isn't it?
Cool.Great.
355
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Yeah.That looks like
a giant windbreak.
356
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It does, doesn't it?
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Something we can cover off today,
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is give you a sense of scale.
Mm.
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How very big it's gonna feel.
Mm.Mm.
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Yeah, its gonna be...
That's... each section is...
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about ten metres?
Ten metres, yeah.Yeah.
362
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,600
Jeez.
363
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Has it been a bit of an
engineering conundrum then,
364
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as regards stresses from the actual
weight of the thing itself?Yeah.
365
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But also, trying to factor
in weather conditions?
366
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Everybody I've spoken to has...
told me not to do it.
367
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(LAUGHS)Not to do it.
Yeah.
368
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(ALL LAUGH)
Why?
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Cos you're... I mean,
you're doing exactly what you...
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what you shouldn't be doing
on the beach, putting up something
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that catches the wind.A massive
sail, I suppose, isn't it?Yeah.
372
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Have you got the design there?
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This is obviously the horror side.
374
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Yeah.
And it...
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Yesterday, it did make me feel
quite ill.
376
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Playing on a number of things,
377
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so it's COVID, refugee crisis,
and Brexit.
378
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But the other side,
which I haven't finished yet,
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will be the complete opposite,
really.
380
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Mm-hm.This is Bournemouth 2
and Bournemouth 1.
381
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So this is currently what we're
thinking for the jigsaw.Oh. Yeah.
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Yeah.
This is Trumpscape.
383
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Mm-hm.
Which is already a jigsaw.
384
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We just thought it would be
amazing absolutely massive.Mm.
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Barge.
Barge.Yes.
386
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We saw a very low bridge,
didn't we?Very low.That-- Yeah.
387
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But you-- you're confident that...
they haven't just, like,
388
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forgotten about that bridge
at the end?(LAUGHS)
389
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Let's say that I am confident.
(LAUGHS) Yeah!
390
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Let's act like that.
Yeah.
391
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,400
Um... So the latest design is,
when it's not up,
392
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it's like this.
Yeah.
393
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And then that can move...
(COUGHS)
394
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..up like this.
395
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Can I have a look in the studio?
Yeah.
396
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We should go and have a look
at the samples.
397
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Brilliant.
These are all the Medway prints.
398
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Are these the final prints?
Yep.
399
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Brilliant.
Put that down...Yes!
400
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Super Saturday!
That is Super Saturday.
401
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,200
Lovely.
402
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040
So, basically, we get these,
403
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,520
and make a framework
to the same size.
404
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,240
That looks amazing.
That does look good.
405
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,160
I mean, the idea is to have
the framework and everything
406
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,880
as kind of utilitarian and as
low-profile as possible.Yeah.
407
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,920
I think it's fantastic.
408
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,440
Not used to seeing them this size?
No.
409
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,280
(LAUGHS)Piss Stop, A1(M).
Piss Stop on the A1(M).
410
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,600
On the A1(M).North.
411
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Do you reckon that was your biggest
ever engaged picture on Twitter?
412
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,600
It was, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
413
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,880
That car is, um... Mussolini's.
414
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Pissing on his own advice.
415
00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,400
Yes!
Oof!
416
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It's really sad, isn't it, actually?
417
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SAMIRA: I think the single
most useful thing
418
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in understand why Cold War Steve
and his art
419
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is so perfect right now,
and will endure,
420
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is because, in an age where
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there's all this seething
rows on social media,
422
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320
and everything's moving so fast,
and everything's amplified,
423
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his artwork is somewhere peaceful
where you sit and you contemplate.
424
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,360
And it's that deep, slow
contemplation
425
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,760
which takes you out
of the daily kind of news cycle,
426
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and... and lets you...
427
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,440
just pause.
428
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All these things shall pass.
429
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WOMAN: 'The Chief Medical Officer
has warned
430
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'people have relaxed too much,
431
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,520
'causing a sharp rise in
coronavirus cases across the UK.
432
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,760
'Nearly 6,000 new positive tests
433
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,560
'were reported in London
two days...'
434
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,520
If you'd have told me a year ago
435
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that something like this was
happening,
436
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,600
I'd imagine, you know,
months in preparation, and planning,
437
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,960
and various organisations to bring
things and make things,
438
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,440
and to think that it's going to be
up in, like, you know,
439
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less than a couple of weeks...
(LAUGHS)
440
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,880
.with just, you know,
myself doing the artwork,
441
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,360
Carl doing the planning and stuff,
and then Adam making everything,
442
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,560
yeah, it's... it's good.
443
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:24,800
This is where the neighbours
start to ask questions.
444
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,400
Yeah!
(LAUGHS)
445
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,360
(GROANING)
446
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,760
Bend your knees!Gaaah!
Bend your fuckin' knees!
447
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,080
So that's a panel.
448
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,120
Fuck.
449
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600
No fuckin' around with it,
is there? (BOTH LAUGH)
450
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,160
At the minute, we've got
the more positive imagery,
451
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,600
hopeful imagery,
in shadow on the reverse.
452
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,120
Mm.So I think we might need to...
453
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240
think about flipping 'em round.
454
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,160
So this side is the hopeful,
positive imagery...Mm.
455
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,560
..and the inside
is naturally darker.
456
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,920
I need to get back
and get cracking.Yeah.
457
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,760
Cos time's a-running out.
I've done the hellish side,
458
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,680
and that was a conscious decision,
to get that side done first.
459
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,440
You know, it does drag you
into kind of a dark place.
460
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,280
I got up really early
Sunday morning,
461
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,120
and started delving into the...
the piece again,
462
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,120
erm... and I... you know...
immersing myself in it,
463
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,440
and then I thought,
"I've gotta go to ASDA
464
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,720
"to get some dinner for the kids,"
cos my wife was at work.
465
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Went over to ASDA and... erm...
466
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,360
they'd moved...
467
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,800
Cos they're having a refit,
where the...
468
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,200
I went to buy pork, where the pork
was, there was fruit there,
469
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,120
and it just started throwing me,
and it was really busy,
470
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,440
and I... I kind of just, uh...
471
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,880
I had a massive, um...
sort of anxiety, panic attack,
472
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,160
and just hid
by the dog food section.
473
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,120
Uh... and...
474
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,160
was just, like, in floods of tears.
475
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,600
And... and
I rang my wife, who left work
476
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,520
and turned up at ASDA
in a care worker thing,
477
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,240
and kind of guided me out
without making a scene,
478
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,200
and paid for what we had.
479
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,320
You know, I think you have
to give a lot of yourself.
480
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,400
Years ago, at a very low ebb,
on holiday, I...
481
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,800
And it's really bad. I intentionally
walked out into the sea,
482
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040
hoping that it would swallow me up.
483
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Um... And I was walking out,
484
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,480
and then a piece of rope hit my leg.
485
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,640
And I went, "Eurggh!" and ran out.
486
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,400
And I always think back
to that strange bit of rope.
487
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,000
It's just it.. probably saved me.
488
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,120
You know, my wife as well,
I owe so much to her,
489
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,720
cos she's... she looks out.
490
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,000
She knows that I'm probably not...
the best, you know, mentally,
491
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600
and she'll-- she'll look out for me.
492
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,560
(BIRDSONG)
493
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,920
COLD WAR STEVE: Yes,
I've got the essentials.
494
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,880
Deodorant, meds.
495
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,880
Bit apprehensive. I've not been away
for this long, have I, Katie?
496
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,360
Um...Katie's distraught.
497
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,600
Oh, Hugo, though.
498
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240
Hugo? I'm gonna miss the big Hugo.
499
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,520
Right?
500
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,520
(GEESE CALLING)
501
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,320
This is very, uh, splendid,
isn't it?
502
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,400
It's nice.
Nice!
503
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,240
I've officially left the house.
504
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,800
Let's go and meet the world.
505
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,800
The outside world.
The outside world.
506
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,960
Bye, ASDA.
507
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,840
MAN: '..area of England
to be subject to a local lockdown.
508
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,800
'The new restrictions
coming in at midnight
509
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,120
'are due to a rise in coronavirus
cases across the region.
510
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960
'It's thought around two million
people could be affected,
511
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,920
'in areas including County Durham,
Sunderland and Newcastle...'
512
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,080
From the bottom, there...
513
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Well, that's another one done.
514
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,800
Departed Birmingham this morning,
515
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600
in this fabulous motor home.
516
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,400
It's very much the, um, HQ
517
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,080
of this tour of England
that we're doing.
518
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:02,080
We're now entering my first stop,
Tilbury.
519
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,280
And why Tilbury?
520
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,120
Erm, it's near to where
the first exhibition is, in Medway.
521
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,360
Obviously, there's a lot of history,
historical docks.
522
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,160
Erm, it's where the Windrush,
Empire Windrush landed in 1948.
523
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,720
(SIGHS) This is the big leap
into the outside world.
524
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,600
Hello, outside world.
525
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,600
(HORN BLARING)
526
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720
Wahey!
Ah, he did beep at me.
527
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,640
So, me meeting the outside world,
now I'm getting a bit apprehensive.
528
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,160
They beep and shout. (CHUCKLES)
529
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,320
I spend a lot of time, uh,
scrolling through photographs
530
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:48,000
of streets like this,
of buildings like that.
531
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,520
If I put "AB" into my search drive,
it comes up,
532
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,560
"abandoned shop,
abandoned theatre, aband--"
533
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,560
You know, it's all...
anything that's abandoned,
534
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,680
cos it just, you know, from an
artistic point of view,
535
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080
they just look great, but they also
obviously convey
536
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,040
a perfect message of what
I'm trying to get across as well.
537
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,880
So seeing things like this is firing
up my imagination.
538
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,160
I think I would take affront
at an artist using the backdrops
539
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,640
and stuff I do, if they use a
backdrop that's dystopian,
540
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,360
just to, you know, make a picture
look funny or something, but...
541
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,720
I use them because I was putting
the people that I thought were...
542
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,600
were causing the most
deprived areas to suffer.
543
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,760
I was putting these,
the makers of that, into it,
544
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,600
so I was putting your Rees-Moggs,
545
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,880
and your Michael Goves,
Boris Johnsons.
546
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,040
This is of your doing,
this is of your making,
547
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,000
so I'd stick them in there.
548
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,000
A year ago, I'd have had a picture
with that Stallions sign,
549
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,200
and then I'd put... Photoshopped
that in front of it.
550
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720
You know, that would have been,
uh, you know...
551
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,080
a Cold War Steve picture in itself.
552
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,120
And now it's... now it's reality.
553
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,440
(CHUCKLES)
554
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,560
Tilbury Docks.
555
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Yeah.So this is, I understand,
556
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,080
the exact place where Windrush
docked in 1948.
557
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,480
Yeah.
Wow.
558
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,360
You see the old Pathe news footage
of the, erm...
559
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,280
people from Jamaica with,
like, the... the pork-pie hats
560
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,320
and the suits and stuff.
561
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,880
And obviously,
it's 70-odd years later,
562
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,160
where you've got people
that have lived in Britain,
563
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,200
were born in Britain,
spent their whole lives here,
564
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,360
and contributed so much
to this country,
565
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640
suddenly find themselves
getting arrested
566
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,200
and... and... detained,
uh, and... and deported.
567
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,160
People came here to help us out and
work post-war, fill post-war jobs,
568
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,040
but they've done
much more than that,
569
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840
you know, they've enriched
our whole society,
570
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,080
um... immeasurably.
571
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,520
Er... And so, really, when you look
and think this is where it...
572
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680
it kind of started, that's...
573
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,480
The borders we have
are either fake,
574
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,000
set up by politician after wars,
575
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440
or dictated by the sea.
576
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,000
Right? They're all fake. Right?
577
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,560
So I come to the terms with myself
that I'm an internationalist.
578
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Once I do that, I'm not really
concerned too much
579
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,280
about one nation or another.
580
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,320
I cared about the people of Iraq
581
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,120
just the same as I cared
about the people of England,
582
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200
or I cared about the people
of Azerbaijan,
583
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,920
just as much as I cared about
the people of Nigeria.
584
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,960
But that's not the way
people are tending to move.
585
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,120
People are tending
to go back into their shell.
586
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,920
(MOTOR STARTS)
587
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,680
ON RADIO: 'So it's
about three curves,
588
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,600
'so shall we get--
shall we give it a go?'
589
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,800
Roger, Rog.
590
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,480
CARL: One of the things that
we did wanna do
591
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,560
with the locations
of these four works was,
592
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,880
we wanted there to be, you know,
a city,
593
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,320
and, erm, something
in the countryside, and...
594
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040
But, really, it was just
about making sure
595
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120
that we were getting a spread
of places across the country.
596
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Ideally, it would have been
across the UK.
597
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,080
But you have to remember,
598
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,160
when we first started talking
about this project,
599
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,640
it was deep in lockdown,
and so at that point,
600
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320
when we started to think about
where we could go,
601
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,480
it was really, like,
"Where can we go?"
602
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960
You know, "What can we
turn round at this time?"
603
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240
I guess that's how
we found ourselves here.
604
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,520
They've announced lockdown
in the northeast.
605
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760
It's not where we're going.
606
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,960
Uh... But I guess things are
607
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,320
starting to look a bit more
serious everywhere again.
608
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,400
Er, as it stands, none of the
locations that we're going to
609
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,080
are affected, but I think we're...
610
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Oh, I don't know, I'm starting
to worry that perhaps, you know,
611
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,600
it's only a matter of time
612
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,880
8before there's a spanner thrown
in the works.(MACHINERY WHIRRING)
613
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,600
WOMAN: '..the emergency committee,
614
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,480
'including the leaders of Wales,
Scotland and Northern Ireland,
615
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,800
'before making his official
announcement later tonight.
616
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120
'It comes after
his top medical advisors
617
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880
'yesterday recommended raising
the alert level....
618
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,920
(PHONE RINGS)
619
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,920
Hello? Yeah, yeah.
You're on loudspeaker.
620
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880
MAN: 'Uh, just to sort
of update you,
621
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,840
'there've been a few developments
this morning.
622
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960
'Um... So, there is I believe,
623
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,480
'one Tory councillor who is very
upset about the artwork.
624
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,440
'Um, and is, I think, kicking up
a little bit of a stink.'
625
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,400
(LAUGHS)'Um, so... it's creating a
little bit of a...
626
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,520
'a furore, I think the word is.
627
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,920
'Um... And, as well, I've just been
wandering around on site,
628
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,480
'and we've had some interesting
mixed reactions.'
629
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,840
Mixed reactions?
'Um, ranging from lovely,
630
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600
'slightly befuddled,
to one guy who was very irate.
631
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,120
'But, yeah, just so you know.
632
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720
'So that's even before we've--'
Before we've even opened it,
633
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,000
there's tension and there's...
'Don't like to cause a...
634
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,880
..Tory councillors irate.
635
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680
We need to get there and film,
quickly, and, uh...'Yeah.'
636
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,240
..open it and do one! (LAUGHS)
637
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,560
Thanks, Mark. See you in a bit.
'OK. Bye.'Bye, bye.
638
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Having a backlash on Twitter,
you can mute or not read or...
639
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,400
You know, it's still quite, you
know... still hurts sometimes,
640
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,640
but you can just put it down.
641
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840
But irate people...
642
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360
on their patch...
643
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,840
(INHALES)
644
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,320
Latest on Cold War Steve on Twitter,
645
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,800
these are tweets what people have
put about my Medway thing.Right.
646
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,880
Already?
Already.
647
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,280
"Art? Art?
648
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,840
"Where's my spray can? Political
rubbish shouldn't be up there."
649
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,200
(LAUGHS)
650
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Another one.
651
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Oh, Megan's put, "I wonder,
would you feel the same if...
652
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360
"if it was art that agreed
with your politics?
653
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
"Are we really going
to try and censor art?
654
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,880
"What next? Music?"
655
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,320
"No! Art, if it's being displayed
in a beautiful place
656
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,040
"like a country park where people
go to look at nature
657
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,240
"should be proper!"
658
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,880
Capital letters. "Art.
659
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,560
"Landscapes! Nice things!
660
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,760
"Not something that looks like
my grandchild did at school.
661
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,440
"I'm just fed up with people putting
this country down all the time."
662
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Megan's just put,
"It's just pictures."
663
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,240
You know, this is certainly meeting
the outside world full-on, isn't it?
664
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,680
Yeah.
665
00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:33,640
You know, I'm not going to some sort
of Cold War Steve Appreciation...
666
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,440
Society!Village hall somewhere.
667
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,600
Really are going fucking headlong
into it, aren't I?Yeah.
668
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,680
Yeah.
669
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,280
(SIGHS) We'll see.
670
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,680
STEPHEN: Words have begun
to fail us.
671
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:54,480
Erm, comedians and politicians
and intellectuals
672
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,480
no longer have the language
with which
673
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,840
to cajole and persuade people,
674
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,440
uh, into anything other than their
entrenched positions.
675
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,880
It's, you know...
676
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,440
So it seems to me that, uh, things
like paintings and, um...
677
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,720
and works of art like...
like the sort of, uh...
678
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,040
the mash-ups that... that
Cold War Steve, uh... gives us,
679
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,360
are probably the best way we have
of just inspecting ourselves.
680
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,440
I always talk about, um...
681
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,160
collagist John Heartfield,
682
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,240
who was doing his anti-Nazi stuff
in Nazi Germany,
683
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,640
and how, you know,
what he did, it was brave,
684
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,880
and what I do isn't brave.
685
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,880
Cos I'm sat behind a screen.
686
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,480
I'm not comparing me going to Medway
now as being brave,
687
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,280
or comparing it to John Heartfield,
688
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,680
but it's given me
a little taster of, uh...
689
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,880
of the dangers involved in, uh...
690
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,800
in being a satirist.
691
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,720
I think satires here, I mean,
in any normal situation...
692
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,520
the cut and thrust of politics
is kind of enjoyable.
693
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,360
But it's not if it's chaos.
694
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,880
It makes you feel frightened.
695
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
And that's why people end up
sort of huddling together
696
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920
and not wanting to look at this
sort of stuff,
697
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,600
because it makes them feel
uncomfortable.
698
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,840
And its job is to make you feel
uncomfortable.
699
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,640
That's why particularly
Cold War Steve nails it,
700
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,440
because he can conjure
a sort of image,
701
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,880
a feeling of what it's like,
702
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,840
especially when we're told
it's all sunlit uplands
703
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,320
and, erm, world-beating
and everything,
704
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,680
and just with the careful choice
of the right sort of high street,
705
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,920
or, um, cafe interior,
706
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,280
he sort of makes you think, "Yeah,
that's what Britain's really like.
707
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,160
"Shit." (LAUGHS)
708
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,360
Just pulling into the...
country park.
709
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,240
Looking for placards, looking for...
710
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,560
burning crosses.
711
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Bedsheets hastily painted
with some sort of slogan.
712
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,840
Feeling nervous?
Little bit.
713
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,320
(SIGHS)
714
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:33,760
MAN: '..restriction within part of
West Yorkshire and the Midlands,
715
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,520
'with a ban on socialising
with people
716
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,320
'outside of households and bubbles,
in private homes and gardens.
717
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,560
'Earlier on, the Health
Secretary...'(BIRDS CALLING)
718
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,760
CARL: I was, um,
just chatting to Jason.
719
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,800
COLD WAR STEVE: Mm.
And, uh...
720
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,400
I don't think he was wanting
to really...
721
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920
get into it, particularly,
722
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,280
because obviously,
we're sort of fighting
723
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,560
a little bit of a... small fire,
here.(LAUGHS)
724
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,680
But he was, uh, telling me that
there might be some beef
725
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,120
with Bournemouth.
Oh, for fuck's sake.Yeah.
726
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,720
The new head of the council there
was voted in this week,
727
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,240
and everything has to go
through him.Oh, God.
728
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,400
I think he requested the artwork.
(LAUGHS)
729
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Or, his office has requested
the artwork.
730
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,600
And have they seen the artwork?
I think they have, yeah.
731
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,920
They asked us if they could, uh...
732
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,240
put a hold on the promotional
activity for the time being.
733
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,960
(LAUGHS) Sounds ominous.
734
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,360
Does, doesn't it?
That's gonna be, uh...
735
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,240
censorship.
736
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,240
Yup.
737
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,600
(WIND GUSTING)
738
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Murdoch's still standing.
739
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,240
Hasn't had anything thrown at it.
740
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,040
That's good.
741
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,200
Everywhere's kicking off, now.
742
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,160
Now they've realised what it is
that I do! (LAUGHS)
743
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,760
Oh, I hope we get
to put Bournemouth up.
744
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Even if it's just for... (LAUGHS)
just for an hour.
745
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,280
Hooray! Super Saturday!
746
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,600
Looks good!
Looks great, mate.
747
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Looks great, there, doesn't it?
748
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,440
Art? Art?
749
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,240
Why don't we put a Constable
Hay Wain there?
750
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,920
Yeah.
Wonder if anyone's clocked, uh...
751
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Shipman discussing tactics
with, uh, Hancock.
752
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,840
Learning from the master!
753
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,360
You know, very strong opinions
754
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,320
and anxieties
that I channel into my art.
755
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,040
I mean, no one could have
a problem with this.
756
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,720
Apart from Farage.
757
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Carl? Are they friendly?
Hello.
758
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,040
Yeah, yeah, they are, yeah.
We are. We don't bite.Yeah.
759
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080
These... I'm sorry,
I've forgotten your names already.
760
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,600
No, that's all right.
I'm Imogen and this is Laura.
761
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Hi.And we're... we work for Medway
2025 City of Culture bid.Oh!
762
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,320
Nice to meet you. Welcome.
Nice to meet you.
763
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,400
It's nice to get a friendly welcome.
764
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,040
There's some tension about
the artwork, apparently.
765
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,360
Um...Oh, really?Yeah?Really?
766
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480
There's been some really
good stuff on Twitter.
767
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,400
Has there?People... Yeah.Yeah,
we've seen some good reactions.
768
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,560
So, like, especially, like,
on the Medway2025 hashtag, as well,
769
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,440
people are saying this is the best
thing to happen to Medway all year.
770
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,360
So...Great.Yeah.
There are friendly people.
771
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,360
Is this the grand revealing?
Well, yes.
772
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Yeah.Yeah.In a low-key way.
Yeah.(LAUGHTER)
773
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:19,280
I hereby unveil the final piece
of the Medway exhibition.
774
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,600
(CHUCKLES) They've really
shrink-wrapped this one well.
775
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,080
But it's a good spot for, um,
contemplation, I think.
776
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,560
Uh, which...
777
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,240
This is definitely the
hardest-hitting one.
778
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Um, there's no comedy in this one
whatsoever.
779
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,320
This is proper angry,
full-on protest art.
780
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Um...
781
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,440
When you just think of the hatred
towards these fellow human beings,
782
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,280
and the complete lack of compassion
that there is at the moment...
783
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,800
So I hope people just stop and
contemplate it, really.
784
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,440
MAN: Don't know how well
it's gonna go down in these parts,
785
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,360
but, uh, hopefully, I mean, some
people might see, sort of,
786
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,480
things for what they really are,
uh, perhaps.
787
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,400
MAN 2: The art here asks
so many questions,
788
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,360
it's almost a time capsule of what
was happening at that time,
789
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,600
it's a commentary on
a lot of social issues,
790
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,000
which maybe, for some people,
are quite hard to take.
791
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,320
Just had word that,
uh, the council have met,
792
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,160
and it's all fine.
793
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,720
Bournemouth?No, here.Oh,here?
794
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,920
They've agreed that the artwork
should stay up.
795
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,520
They stand by their decision.
796
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,840
In their words, all publicity
is good publicity.
797
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,840
And the two that really caused
the issues
798
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,520
was Priti...
799
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,000
uh, that was the one
that's been flagged up
800
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,800
as being the most offensive,
inappropriate...
801
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Upsetting, I think,
was a word that was used.
802
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Um, but the other one,
A1 Piss Stop.
803
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,760
Really?Dominic Cummings
having a piss,
804
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,680
apparently, is more upsetting
and offensive than...
805
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
a mass grave.
A mass grave.Yeah.
806
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,760
They're more offended by lewd
behaviour...Oh!
807
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,760
..than they are by the idea...
By the meaning or comment.
808
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Yeah.
809
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,400
They're realistic. Um...
810
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,000
I wonder if it's part photograph
and something else there.
811
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,120
There's a guy there in the water
812
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,840
and all these boats around him,
813
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,760
they're like ducklings,
you might have said.
814
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,320
Yes, it's something to do
with the COVID-19,
815
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,360
and perhaps Harold Shipman
and his, um, previous history
816
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560
of... eliminating the elderly
and the frail.
817
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,680
Not my form of art,
put it that way. (LAUGHS)
818
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,520
I don't know if the artist
has funded this himself,
819
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,680
but if it's taxpayers' money
and council tax,
820
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,600
I'm a bit disappointed to think
that they haven't got better things
821
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
to spend their money on,
to be quite honest.
822
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,760
Very political, very interesting.
823
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,600
I think we agreed with its
sentiments, so yeah, it's great.
824
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,320
It's really fascinating. We haven't
got round to the others yet.
825
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,280
so we're gonna go and have a look.
826
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,040
What's your thoughts?
Yeah, the same, really,
827
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,160
I thought it was quite... shocking,
but it was good.
828
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600
I was really pleasantly surprised
829
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680
to find that we had Cold War Steve
coming to Medway.
830
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,080
All I can imagine is that the, uh...
831
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,920
the councillors and the
administration
832
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,440
had never heard of him,
cos I'm pretty certain
833
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,320
that he's skewering
quite a few of their heroes,
834
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,680
and I don't think they would take
too kindly to it
835
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,280
if they had realised just what they
were letting themselves in for.
836
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,600
So as we film, um...
this piece called The Wave is...
837
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,680
or, The Second Wave,
is unfortunately...
838
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,040
proving to be rather
prescient of me.
839
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:58,360
I think this is my favourite spot
of the whole exhibition walk.
840
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Nice bench where you can sit and
quietly contemplate the artwork.
841
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,480
Generally, cos it's on a phone
and people...
842
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,720
it's very much scrolling
and pinching and zooming
843
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,960
and, um... you can't sit down
and properly contemplate it
844
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,280
as you can here with this.
845
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,920
It's the anti-white wall gallery,
846
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,080
because there's not
a white wall there,
847
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560
there's, uh... the beautiful Medway,
848
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,520
with some beautiful industrial
action on the horizon, as well.
849
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,560
We see a lot of artists creating
glossy images
850
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,360
built for social media,
which then don't work offline.
851
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,320
The difference with Cold War Steve
is that his works,
852
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,520
they're great online, but when you
see them in the flesh,
853
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,000
they evoke quite an emotional
response in the viewers.
854
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,840
We've seen that in terms of how
855
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,840
people have been responding
on Twitter.
856
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Erm, you can see then in Birmingham
Museum and Art Gallery,
857
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,120
hanging alongside Pre-Raphaelite
masterpieces, where they belong.
858
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Hey, good, how are you? (LAUGHS)
859
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,400
Good, man.
Looks great.
860
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Yeah.Everything looks great.
Yeah.Nice day for it.
861
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,640
Yeah.
How's your reactions been?
862
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,760
Positive.
863
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,840
Good.
Yeah. Mo-- Yeah.
864
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,960
Better than expected.
865
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Certainly, whenever I do
bump into people,
866
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,840
speak to people,
867
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,600
I see no evidence of the hatred,
and the bitterness,
868
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,120
and the impatience,
and the resentment, and the anger,
869
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,880
all the negative
and horrible things
870
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,400
that are exhibited
on social media.
871
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,600
It's as if, um... rather than
social media being a mirror
872
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,840
or... or a representation,
873
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,880
it's a kind of... strange portal
874
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,680
into an anti-matter
version of society.
875
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,640
MAN: '..are against us.
876
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,760
'But now, going into the seasons
late autumn and winter,
877
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,960
'which benefit respiratory viruses,
I think it's very...'
878
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,880
September 23rd... 2020.
879
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Meeting the outside world.
880
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,640
Here we find ourselves...
881
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,120
with a backdrop
of test and trace tents.
882
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,360
(MAN CHUCKLES)
Managed by Serco.
883
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,360
How they can get any contract...
884
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,280
There doesn't seem to be
any test and trace going on.
885
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,720
I think the guy under
the umbrella having a fag
886
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,280
is the embodiment of the
test and trace system. (LAUGHTER)
887
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,920
The whole test and trace area
888
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,880
basically consists of folorn-looking
men under umbrellas.
889
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,240
(LAUGHTER)
890
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,960
There's a train here.
I wonder if our man's on it.
891
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120
It's Positive Carl.
(MAN LAUGHS)Hello.
892
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,800
Hello.
893
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,960
CARL: Today, we were supposed
to be loading in at whatever time,
894
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,240
seven am this morning.
895
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,240
The crew, the trucks,
all the plant hire,
896
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,080
everything was going down
last night.
897
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,920
And then, literally,
as they were about to set off,
898
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,120
got a phone call to say that
the new head of the council
899
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,400
had withdrawn permission.
900
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,800
So, at the very last minute,
we had to...
901
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,400
put everything on hold.
902
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,200
What's the latest?
What's the update?
903
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,560
Have you got any good news
from Bournemouth?
904
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,920
ADAM ON PHONE:
905
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,160
Has there been any talk about how
it's going to be covered over?
906
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,160
OK, mate. Well, you know,
907
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,040
I'm really hoping we don't have
to go down this route.
908
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,760
All right, Carl.
Cheers, mate.
909
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Chris, take care.
Cheers, mate.
910
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,040
Bye.
Bye.
911
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,880
(SIGHS)
912
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Fucking black paint.
913
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,440
This is from Councillor Howell.
Councillor Howell.
914
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,000
"I have decided to withdraw
permission
915
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,000
"for the Cold War Steve artwork
for the following reasons.
916
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,400
"The artwork portrays Bournemouth,
and, therefore, its citizens,
917
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,400
"in a negative light.
918
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,360
"We were given no indication
that it would...
919
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,400
"that it would reference
Bournemouth,
920
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,840
"not does Cold War Steve's
previous work available online.
921
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,520
"The artwork was
misrepresented to us.
922
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,800
"We knew it would have
a subversive element,
923
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,600
"but were told it would be playful
924
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,240
"and in line with Cold War Steve's
previous images.
925
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,040
"There is nothing playful
about the dystopian image.
926
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,280
"It is hard-hitting
political content.
927
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,800
"And the council should not promote
or be perceived promoting
928
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,000
"particular political viewpoints.
929
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,360
"The artist is free
to promote his work
930
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,440
"through multiple
commercial channels,
931
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,760
"so this is not an issue
of censorship.
932
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,800
"We do not feel..."
Yes it fucking is.
933
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,240
"We do not feel that Cold War Steve
934
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,720
"has shown enough respect
for the town's residents,
935
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,800
"who have done nothing to be
singled out for this treatment."
936
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,360
(LAUGHS) People on the dark side
have no connection to Bournemouth.
937
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,120
Is there anyone local to
Bournemouth on the dark side?No!
938
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,440
I mean, maybe...
No.No.
939
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,480
(TRUCK BLEEPING)
940
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,320
(GROANS)
941
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,200
It's still exciting.
942
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,480
Just to think that I'm responsible
for all these people digging
943
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,480
and putting massive concrete things
into the sand.
944
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520
And... and this huge...
945
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,480
I will never do anything on a scale
like this again, I don't think.
946
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,560
But then, frustrating that...
947
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,480
people may not be able to see...
948
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,280
I mean, it'll be nice to see
the one side, anyway.
949
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,760
But it is one piece of artwork
that has two sides.
950
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,120
I've not come here just to do a
really positive piece
951
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,360
on... on Bournemouth.
952
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:11,400
So I suppose the elephant in the
room is the covering of one side.
953
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,160
Yeah.Well, we talked
about draping it.
954
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,720
But if you put a... a wool,
or even a cotton drape on it,
955
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,240
it gets wet,
956
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,960
and then it increases the load
on the structure.
957
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Yeah, yeah.Right.So it needs
to be like a rubble bag.
958
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,040
Right.You know, it's slightly
thicker plastic.OK.
959
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,440
It's not bin bag material,
it's thicker.Right! (LAUGHS)
960
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Brilliant. Really ugly.
961
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,400
Good. Good!
(LAUGHS)
962
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,560
There's been a bit of a delay
in getting the posts in.
963
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,800
It's the highest tide for 18 years.
964
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,120
That hole is about two metres deep.
Shit.
965
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,440
Or it was when we dug it.
That's not rain or anything?No.
966
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,640
It's water table.
And it's coming up.Shit.
967
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,640
So there's a double jeopardy
situation going on, almost,
968
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,080
in that Councillor Howell
wants to put a stop to it,
969
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,560
but nature may put a stop
to it anyway.
970
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,440
WOMAN: '..further 6,874 people have
tested positive for coronavirus
971
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,240
'across the UK in the latest
daily statistics.
972
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,360
'It's another record figure,
but officials say
973
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,320
'that is partly because
of an increase in testing.
974
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,920
'A woman...'
975
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,200
CARL: I'm looking for shells,
976
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,480
trying to chill out.
977
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,160
Yesterday, we weren't sure
it was gonna go up.
978
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,520
I think they're about
a day behind, so, erm...
979
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,720
it's sort of all systems go
to try and get it up today.
980
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,320
Now we've got the piece going up
with one side covered,
981
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,160
and it's starting another
interesting conversation,
982
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,520
I suppose.
983
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,720
Not necessarily a conversation
we wanted to have, at all, really.
984
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,040
But I guess that's the difference
985
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,920
between Chris banging these things
up on Twitter
986
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,080
and dealing with local councils,
arts festivals,
987
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,800
er, construction permissions,
engineers, all of the other stuff.
988
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,440
It's a bit... it's a bit of a jump,
to say the least.
989
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,440
Now I can see the posts
going in, and...
990
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,560
had time to reflect on everything,
991
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,640
to have one side, the main side
that's facing people walking past,
992
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,960
to have that covered,
I think adds to it,
993
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,760
a certain intrigue into it.
Yeah, yeah.
994
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,560
People are going to want to know
what that image is.
995
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,120
You know, it's just human nature
to be curious.
996
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,920
So I think it will perhaps end up
making the image...
997
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,520
seen by more people.
998
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,200
I've got a few days to get the
Coventry giant postcard done,
999
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,760
so I was working
on a few ideas last night,
1000
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,120
but I need this
out of the way first,
1001
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,600
cos it's just all-consuming,
isn't it?
1002
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,640
(# GLOCKENSPIEL PLAYING)
1003
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,200
The only censorship
I've dealt with before
1004
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,720
is my own self-censorship.
1005
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,120
Yeah.Um...
And that's... you know...
1006
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,800
If I feel particularly strongly
about an issue,
1007
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,480
and I-- I do a really angry piece,
1008
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,000
I never sort of press "Send"
immediately.
1009
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,160
I always walk away from it
and just let it, um...
1010
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,160
let... you know,
consider it a bit more,
1011
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,480
particularly if...
1012
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,800
if I'm using... to make...
to bring the point home,
1013
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,640
if I end up resorting to using,
1014
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,720
you know, like, Hitler,
or Mussolini, erm...
1015
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,280
you know, I don't use...
use them lightly.
1016
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,360
OMID: I... I've never seen
anything that's made me think,
1017
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,640
"Ooh, that's a bit too much."
1018
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,080
Cold War Steve is probably
right on the edge
1019
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,400
of what is acceptable or not,
1020
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,320
because he always keeps it funny.
1021
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,800
I think that's the line for me,
is it funny?
1022
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,840
Cos sometimes, if you just
make a statement...
1023
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,120
In comedy clubs,
if people just make a statement,
1024
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,080
and they raise their fists, you
think, "Where's the art in that?"
1025
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,040
The art is in the funny.
1026
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:31,040
CARL: BBC News have run with,
1027
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,800
"Cold War Steve... Bournemouth
beach artwork covered up.
1028
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,440
"An artist said he was disappointed
1029
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,840
"his work will not be shown
in its entirety
1030
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,600
"after objections from the council.
1031
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,240
"His latest work,
a 25-metre curved windbreak
1032
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,280
"on Boscombe beach, Bournemouth,
is his biggest yet.
1033
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,640
"But only one side of it
will be shown."
1034
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,960
And then they've put both bits
clearly up on the site.
1035
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,160
They've shown the whole--
Yeah.The site?
1036
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,080
Both sides.
1037
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,880
(LAUGHS)No stress.So the--
BBC, totally cool with it.
1038
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,800
BBC have shown both sides.
1039
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,560
"Cold War Steve said the censored
part deals with
1040
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,920
"the dark underbelly of our
society."It said "censored"?
1041
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,520
"The censored part", yeah.
It's in there.(LAUGHS)
1042
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,680
Uh... "movements of intolerance,
hatred and division,
1043
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:19,160
"issues that should never be
ignored, let alone covered up."
1044
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,440
There you go. It's out.
That's good. It's good.
1045
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,960
It's out, it's out there.
1046
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,600
Let's retweet that one.
1047
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,320
So, I suppose we're here to talk
about, obviously,
1048
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,320
the art that's being erected
on Bournemouth beach.
1049
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,200
Just wanted to get your views
on why you found it necessary
1050
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:49,080
to censor the... the piece.
1051
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,520
Yeah. This is... this is
a really difficult decision for me.
1052
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,440
I had a sleepless night over it.
1053
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,840
Um, particularly because
I do have a background in...
1054
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,480
in photojournalism,
documentary photography.
1055
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,400
But at the end of the day, we were
promised a piece that was playful,
1056
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,320
uh, in line with
the artist's previous work,
1057
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:14,240
and... and the dystopian side
of the image that was proposed,
1058
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,840
and we saw very late
in the process,
1059
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,880
is a very hard-hitting
political piece.
1060
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800
You know, it includes Nazi salutes.
1061
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,440
It... I... I just felt
that it had gone over...
1062
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,680
over the boundary of what would be
perceived to be acceptable
1063
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,200
in, you know,
a public area like this.
1064
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,160
It's gonna be covered, is it?
Have you heard about that?
1065
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,760
Well, I just read that there.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
1066
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,760
I think if it was poking fun
directly at the town, maybe...
1067
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,120
you could have an argument
for trying to do
1068
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,480
a bit of local censorship,
but even then,
1069
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,840
there's nothing on there
that is outrageous.
1070
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,960
(WOMAN LAUGHS) I think it's funny!
MAN: Yeah, it's funny.
1071
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,800
I think we're big enough,
old enough
1072
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,240
and wise enough
to make up our own minds.
1073
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,560
WOMAN: Is that Harold Shipman?
MAN: Yeah, it is.
1074
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,160
It is! (LAUGHS)
1075
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,520
Oh, my goodness. It's
a bit controversial, isn't it?
1076
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,640
MAN: ..him driving...
Carrying Putin? (LAUGHS)
1077
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,400
I'm glad I got to see it, then,
before it gets covered up. (LAUGHS)
1078
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,040
The job of art is to provoke,
is to...
1079
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,320
uh... is to unsettle,
it's to entertain,
1080
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,840
it's all these things at once.
1081
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,160
So it's... it's very important
to have that.
1082
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,160
Thank you, that's brilliant.
(LAUGHS)
1083
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,800
CARL: Chris is the artist.
Oh, you're Cold War Steve?
1084
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,200
Cold War Steve, yeah.
It's incredible.Oh, thank you.
1085
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,480
Thank you.
Like, it's amaz--
1086
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,960
I've just seen it on Twitter and I
was like, "I've gotta dash down."
1087
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000
The fact that you've got
all of the...
1088
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,960
You know, the brilliance
and beauty of Bournemouth,
1089
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,680
you've got the Cherries, football
fans in there.That's it, yeah.
1090
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,240
You've got... Buster Merryfield's
a big part of this town.
1091
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Yes! (LAUGHS)
1092
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,760
And then you've got
the rise of fascism.
1093
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,640
Why would you cover it up? Because,
what, it's making people talk?
1094
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,600
To me, people need to talk.
This is a time to talk.
1095
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,840
Absolutely.About every single
thing that's going on in the world.
1096
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,560
I'm relieved that
I've got to see it up.
1097
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,840
I thought earlier today "I just want
to see it for five minutes.
1098
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,280
"Let me see it up. Let me see it
in all its glory." Which I've done.
1099
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,360
But then if I arrive here tomorrow
morning, it's covered up, I...
1100
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,600
Yeah, that's... I don't know.
It's gonna be very sad.
1101
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,400
Very sad.
1102
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,000
It's the morning after
the day of the reveal.
1103
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,520
First chance to look at it
and take stock, really.
1104
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,760
After a few, uh... fraught days,
1105
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,320
here we are on a peaceful morning,
here in Bournemouth,
1106
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,040
looking at the positive side
radiating in the sunshine.
1107
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,720
It looks great, but, um...
obviously the... the other side,
1108
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,560
which is literally in shadows,
1109
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,360
is getting covered up as we speak,
1110
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,160
so that's the one
disappointing thing, but...
1111
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,840
But it is brilliant to see it up.
1112
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,800
All the attention has been
on the forbidden side.
1113
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,120
But this side is
the positive vision of Britain,
1114
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,880
which is what I always enjoy doing,
ones like this.
1115
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,400
And as always with these pieces,
I do a lot of research,
1116
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,760
um... of the local area.
1117
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,840
So there's a businesswoman
that gives out curries to homeless,
1118
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,480
there's, um, nurses,
and Bournemouth FC mascots,
1119
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,520
uh, Bournemouth Pride flag,
1120
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,720
all mixed in with a big welcome mat.
1121
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,160
Which obviously, I think it's pretty
obvious why I've put that there.
1122
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,960
And there's also a lot of people
1123
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,960
that came to this country
as a refugee
1124
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,720
that have obviously gone on to
benefit our country immeasurably.
1125
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,720
And then the black and white
characters there
1126
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,200
are from the Kindertransport,
1127
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,800
when Britain welcomed thousands of
Jewish children from Nazi Germany.
1128
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,120
Um, you know, that's the Britain
that I wanted to represent here.
1129
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,800
Um, but it needs that other side
to... to really spell out...
1130
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,560
um, the message that
I'm trying to put across.
1131
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,000
WOMAN: Look, it's even
got what's his name up there,
1132
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,360
from, um, Only Fools and Horses.
1133
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Uncle.
(MAN LAUGHS)
1134
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,320
WOMAN 2: That's life.
WOMAN 3: Mmm.
1135
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,240
Definitely good representation
of English life, you know.
1136
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,400
Even down to the old Caribbean
jerk chicken in there.There's Mo.
1137
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,880
(LAUGHS)
Mo Farah.
1138
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,240
Yeah. Oh, well. Carnival.
It's good representation.
1139
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,840
WOMAN: We ideally would have
presented the work
1140
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,440
as it was intended to be seen
by the artist,
1141
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,400
so we would have shown both sides,
1142
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,600
but as a local authority run
and part-funded festival,
1143
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,040
we have to find that really
difficult balance
1144
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,040
between what we would ideally
want to programme
1145
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,880
and the views
of the elected members
1146
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,000
who represent the people
who live here.
1147
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,080
So it's a... you know, it's
a balance that we have to find.
1148
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,120
We're really pleased that we can
show both sides of the piece
1149
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,200
on our website, so people
can make up their own mind.
1150
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Um... But it's certainly great
that we can host it here
1151
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,280
as part of the festival,
1152
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,640
and that it is creating debate,
1153
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,920
and, you know,
it's getting people talking.
1154
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,000
If you put an art installation up
and black it out,
1155
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,160
what does that say
about the council?
1156
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,080
Why are you doing this?
This is an arts festival.
1157
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,720
It's about,
don't have censorship.
1158
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,840
Your opinion is your opinion.
1159
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,960
I've been in... uh, working
with culture for 30 years,
1160
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,160
and I can't recall an occasion
1161
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,520
where an artwork has been censored
1162
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,400
or covered in this way.
1163
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,040
And I think it's
an extraordinary reflection
1164
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,040
of the times that we're in.
1165
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,000
that we... we've lost our tolerance
1166
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,480
to the... to the extent where...
1167
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,680
politicians will cover an artwork.
1168
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,760
As we've been going around
trying to get... the work on...
1169
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,280
there have been these reactions
pretty much in every location.
1170
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,280
Online, some people have said,
"Well, if it's a complete artwork,
1171
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,280
"you shouldn't have
put it up at all."
1172
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,400
But at least now, it's been up,
1173
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,560
it's been... shown,
albeit for a short time,
1174
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,000
but... I think it's got
more people talking,
1175
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,840
so I think it was the right decision
just to go ahead with it.
1176
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,200
MAN: '..reports of legal action
against the government
1177
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,120
'over its plans to tear up part of
the Brexit withdrawal agreement
1178
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,360
'signed last year.'
1179
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,440
WOMAN: 'This draft bill is,
by its very nature,
1180
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,480
'a breach of...'
1181
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,560
MAN: Will you have it finished
by the end of the day?
1182
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,280
Uh... yeah.
1183
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,720
Do you ever get bored doing this?
1184
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,160
No.
1185
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,360
It's really therapeutic, I think.
1186
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,720
What would you do
if you weren't doing this, then?
1187
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,400
Boozing.
1188
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,960
That's, like, my only hobby.
1189
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,000
Do you like boozing on your own?
1190
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,720
Yep.
Any bar would do?
1191
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,920
No, always in the house. Cheaper.
1192
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,280
I mean, it was just, erm...
self-medicating, isn't it? You know.
1193
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,600
Self-medicating from what, though?
1194
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,320
Depression, mainly.
1195
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,480
Do... do you kind of...
understand why you were depressed?
1196
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,960
I guessed it was clinical
depression, really.
1197
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,400
There was no...
1198
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,040
there was no trigger
or anything like that.
1199
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,600
Every suicide ideation
or thoughts of self-harm
1200
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,720
were fuelled by alcohol.
1201
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,200
Mm.You know?
1202
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,200
Do you still have suicide ideation?
1203
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,840
No. I...
1204
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,000
I don't, actually.
Cos I used to...
1205
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,600
sort of fantasise
about getting blown up
1206
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,720
on the bus on the way to work.
1207
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,920
You just end up thinking that...
you know, "Is this it?"Mm.
1208
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,960
Just shit jobs, no money.
1209
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,640
And then I tried...
went in the... shed,
1210
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,760
and... strung myself up with a belt.
1211
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,160
Mm.
1212
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,800
Erm... That didn't work, thankfully.
1213
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,400
Walked into the sea...
There was a few... times.Mm.
1214
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,320
I look back and I just...
1215
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,880
It's... it's odd.
1216
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,080
Cos people always say, "Oh, that's
selfish. You've got kids. Or..."
1217
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,360
Mm.But at that moment,
you don't think straight, do you?
1218
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,000
No.You're not thinking right,
you just wanna just stop...
1219
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,840
Mm.
Stop everything.
1220
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,640
I always say
Cold War Steve saved me.Mm.
1221
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,840
I mean, seeing these fuckers,
1222
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,200
I would have to drink to fucking...
block them out.Yeah.
1223
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,400
I couldn't... I can't cope with it.
1224
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,400
This morning, we're having
a day trip to Barnard Castle.
1225
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:05,120
A pilgrimage to the site
of one of the biggest examples
1226
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,800
of contempt for the British public
ever displayed.
1227
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,280
So, I was having some messages
with Les Dennis last night,
1228
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,960
so we've arranged to meet him this
afternoon at three o'clock.
1229
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,720
Look, that is... that's the scene!
1230
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,160
Ladies and gentlemen,
you've arrived at Barnard Castle.
1231
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,240
I can understand
why Dominic Cummings
1232
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,800
felt the need to test his eyes here.
1233
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,240
Very picturesque.
1234
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,280
(BIRDSONG)
1235
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,520
Don't think I've been
to an actual location
1236
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,440
of one of my pictures before.
1237
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,560
I need to get the date.
So, there's a Cummings Day,
1238
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,720
and all of Barnard Castle
descend here and... and dance.
1239
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,680
# Dominic Cummings
broke lockdown rules
1240
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,520
# His noble quest to test his eyes
1241
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,440
# Dominic Cummings
came to Barnard Castle
1242
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,000
# He was only doing
what any good father would do #
1243
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,840
(LAUGHS)
1244
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,960
It seems fitting, really,
to visit the location
1245
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,160
where the anger
was completely fired.
1246
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,640
It triggered, for me, the most
inspirational period, I think.
1247
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,840
You know, I was doing stuff about
Brexit and the charlatans in charge.
1248
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,520
I was doing it, you know, for ages.
1249
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,840
But it was at that moment,
I think, that...
1250
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,480
that... a lot of people thought,
"You know what? Fuck this."
1251
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,000
MAN: 'Coronavirus restrictions
in northern England
1252
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,880
'are going to include
Liverpool, Warrington,
1253
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,400
'Hartlepool and Middlesbrough.
1254
01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:43,080
'It means, from Saturday,
people will be limited
1255
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,720
'when it comes to socialising
between different households.'
1256
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,200
BORIS JOHNSON: 'The more people
follow the rules,
1257
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,840
'and reduce their social contact,
1258
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,760
'the quicker we can get Liverpool
and the northeast back on...'
1259
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,800
Last time we were up in Liverpool,
1260
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,720
we were, um... that way,
in Albert Dock,
1261
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,280
which is where we went
and did the site visit,
1262
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,640
and then we found out that, um,
1263
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,120
permission wasn't
going to be granted.
1264
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,160
We had to supply the artwork,
1265
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,240
and it went to the board
of the Albert Dock,
1266
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,040
so there's obviously
some sort of, like,
1267
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,520
private, commercial sort of angle
to that area.
1268
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,680
Uh, and a load of people
got to have a say, basically,
1269
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,440
on whether it was going
to be in there or not.
1270
01:09:25,480 --> 01:09:28,840
And I think it was three out
of four of the board members
1271
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,160
said it wasn't appropriate,
1272
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,520
they didn't want artwork
of a political nature, erm...
1273
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,280
sat where it was gonna be.
1274
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,520
So we were once again finding
ourselves without a home.
1275
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,320
So, uh, yeah, we ended up over--
back over here, which is...
1276
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,720
amazing, actually.
1277
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,040
Could not be more Liverpool
if you tried.
1278
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,120
We're, you know, smack bang at
the bottom of the Liver Building.
1279
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,360
Uh, River Mersey, just there.
1280
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,680
In between the two.
So, yeah, we lucked out.
1281
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,280
That is amazing.
1282
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,480
I think the twin axis, if you like,
1283
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,920
of being kicked out
at the last possible moment,
1284
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,040
having to find a new location,
1285
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,640
and the backdrop of the
worsening COVID situation,
1286
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,960
has made it very, very challenging.
1287
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,000
So we're really lucky to be here.
1288
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,120
We're very, very grateful to the
great city of Liverpool.
1289
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,000
CARL: So, yeah, up until
eight o'clock last night,
1290
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,560
we didn't know quite, 100 percent,
where we were gonna be in the city.
1291
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,320
Two weeks in a row,
it's been a little bit hairy.
1292
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,720
You all right, guys?Hi.
We're not in trouble, are we?
1293
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,280
No, no, no. Come to finish it
for you.(ALL LAUGH)
1294
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,080
ADAM: Experts!
1295
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,840
Thank God, you see?
We want more from the experts.
1296
01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:38,360
Even the traffic wardens are nice.
Yeah! (LAUGHS)
1297
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,520
MAN: It's just talking about the
current situation that we're in.
1298
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,480
It's different parts
of the right wing,
1299
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,200
like, uh, Donald Trump is on there,
1300
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,920
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage.
1301
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,200
Uh, Adolf Hitler, Dominic Cummings.
Thanks, lads.
1302
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,680
See you later, mate.
Have a good day.Cheers.
1303
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,560
You too, mate, have a good day.
1304
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:01,800
CARL: Embarrassingly, we've got
Les Dennis stood over there.
1305
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,200
Oh, right, OK.
And we've got no artist.
1306
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,240
Oh.I mean, in fairness,
Les is ten minutes early.
1307
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,680
So, um...
True professional.
1308
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,640
Excited?
Yes!
1309
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,160
Here's the man.
1310
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,520
Sorry, Les. (LAUGHTER)
How you doing? You all right?
1311
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,000
Yeah.Nice one.Thanks for coming.
Nice to meet you.
1312
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,960
Nice to meet you at last!
Properly, yeah.
1313
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Great work, I love it.
Thank you!
1314
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,040
I got put onto your work by my,
um...
1315
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,160
I don't know whether
you know Connor McIntyre?
1316
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,600
He's one of the Coronation Street
characters.Oh, right! (LAUGHS)
1317
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,960
You know Phelan?
Yeah, yeah.
1318
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,360
And he's an artist, you know.
Oh, yes?
1319
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,600
So he said, "Oh, this guy's great."
And I got into your stuff,
1320
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,720
and then I rang him up and said,
"I'm in one!"You're...
1321
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,360
(BOTH LAUGH) You're on a plane
with Trump.A plane with Trump.
1322
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:53,680
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1323
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,680
WOMAN: All right, Les?
WOMAN 2: You OK?
1324
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,560
Oh, yeah. How you doing?
Take care.
1325
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,360
You've got to give me a clue,
come and help me.
1326
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,080
That is Trump.
1327
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,520
He's unbelievably quiet, though.
1328
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,600
He's not saying anything.
Yeah!
1329
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,120
Well, you see...
Makes a change.
1330
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,240
He knows if he comes to Liverpool,
people'll have a go back.
1331
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,240
Well, thanks, Les.
Great. Thank you very much.
1332
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,960
Thank you very much.I really
enjoyed that.That was brilliant.
1333
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,920
I'm absolutely thrilled
to be part of it.
1334
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,560
I think your work is amazing.
Oh, thank you. Great.
1335
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,120
SAMIRA: In an age where there's
actually a lot of words out there,
1336
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,640
um... including by politicians
1337
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,560
who have their own social media
feeds--
1338
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,520
"Ask Boris", "Ask Rishi Sunak"...
1339
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,440
this response of his actually
kind of cuts through that
1340
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:45,600
in a way that, 30 years ago,
1341
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,560
Spitting Image
was genuinely dynamic,
1342
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,400
because we weren't seeing people
satirised that way.
1343
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:54,640
An it strikes me that
its moment was 30 years ago,
1344
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,120
and the moment now
is Cold War Steve's.
1345
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:06,160
MAN: '..President Trump has
tweeted,
1346
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,840
'saying that he and the First Lady
1347
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,640
'have tested positive for COVID-19.
1348
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,640
'Let's go straight to Los Angeles
and our US correspondent...'
1349
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,080
Come with me.
1350
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,920
Welcome to my... supersized
Trumpscape jigsaw.
1351
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,520
Couldn't be more pertinent,
this particular piece of work,
1352
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,840
um, which is all about
Trump's America,
1353
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,000
in the age of COVID-19.
1354
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,480
So, I mean, we'll start
with the Trump section.
1355
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,160
The monstrous, grotesque
man himself.
1356
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,040
And he's imbibing,
uh, toilet cleaner.
1357
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,240
Here we've got our anti-maskers,
1358
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,000
with Trump fucking spewing
his bile and shit everywhere.
1359
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,720
Uh, an old favourite of mine,
Steve Bannon.
1360
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,360
Infiltrator of governments
worldwide.
1361
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,840
Good friends with people
like Nigel Farage
1362
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,800
and Boris Johnson as well.
1363
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,840
Richard Branson.
1364
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,800
The amount of money he's got,
you know,
1365
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,960
why is he seeing taxpayer bailout
for...
1366
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,120
for what everyone is,
you know, enduring?
1367
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,840
So he's on there
with his pile of cash.
1368
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,080
Because it's a stark
dystopian image, Trumpscape,
1369
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,640
I did want chinks of positivity.
1370
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,360
I made what I called the good boat.
1371
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,160
You know, just people that were
saying positive things,
1372
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,360
and very much anti-Trump rhetoric
from them.
1373
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,120
And then, reference to our own
NHS, you know, key workers.
1374
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,480
And then, on the horizon,
everything is going to be all right.
1375
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,720
Harold Bishop parps
his tuba of hope.
1376
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,000
You can't quite hear it,
but it's there in the distance.
1377
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,480
So, even though I did this
probably four months ago,
1378
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,320
nothing's changed, so this,
early days of lockdown,
1379
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,760
and here we are now,
on the brink of another lockdown.
1380
01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:00,160
It has made things
a bit eerie, uh...
1381
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,360
There's not... not as many people,
perhaps, have come to see it.
1382
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,920
I mean, a lot of people have.
But, um...
1383
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,240
I suppose it all adds to the
atmosphere of the piece, doesn't it?
1384
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,120
I've noticed there
you can see, um...
1385
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,280
Enoch Powell, Farage, and Hitler.
1386
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,760
I'm thinking Thatcher
should be in with that lot.
1387
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,000
It just sums up what's wrong
with the world, I think.
1388
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,120
All these people, these men,
have got so much power,
1389
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,000
and they've abused it.
1390
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,080
That's my opinion, anyway.
1391
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,160
Erm, you know,
you've got Hitler with Farage.
1392
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,960
That is so apt.
1393
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,280
Erm... There's just...
1394
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,680
The people who could change
the world in so many ways,
1395
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,680
they've got wealth,
you've got Bezos there,
1396
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,840
you've got Trump,
you've got, er, Richard Branson.
1397
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,200
They could change the world
for the good, and they're not.
1398
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,600
They're abusing their own...
1399
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,760
the money and the power
that they've got.
1400
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,680
WOMAN: '..20 flood alerts in place,
1401
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,280
'the weather forecasters are warning
of persistent, heavy rain
1402
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,360
'throughout the day
as Storm Alex hist the country.'
1403
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,040
Storm Alex
has, uh... has arrived.
1404
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,680
Um, and that's been the only...
1405
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,960
stormy feature
of my time in Liverpool.
1406
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,440
I think, out of all of them so far,
it's been my favourite, um...
1407
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,760
one to... to take part in
and visit and be involved in.
1408
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,760
It's just been, compared to the
others,
1409
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,560
such a breeze to install
and to just be around.Mm.
1410
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,560
It's just been wonderful.
1411
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,600
From the beginning,
I've been worried
1412
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,720
that we're gonna
suddenly have to stop filming,
1413
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:35,760
because it's...
1414
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,560
It just seems
it's just closing in on us.
1415
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,040
Two people said
that they got the ferry,
1416
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,840
um, from New Brighton, actually,
to come and see the work today.
1417
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,800
And when they boarded the ferry
to come and see it,
1418
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,200
they were asked
if their journey was essential,
1419
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,040
erm... and they said,
"Bloody right it is.
1420
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,560
"I'm going to see
Cold War Steve's jigsaw!"
1421
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,280
Uh... It... You know,
a race to the line.
1422
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,640
Yeah.Get the piece
in Coventry,
1423
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,440
um... before, you know,
total lockdown or whatever happens.
1424
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,160
MAN: 'COVID cases
are rising sharply,
1425
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,920
'and governments across Europe
are ratcheting up the controls
1426
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,680
'on our everyday lives.
1427
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,440
'But some scientists
from the UK and elsewhere
1428
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:30,360
'have now signed the great...'
1429
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:31,720
(LAUGHTER)
1430
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,760
Here in the wonderful
Spaghetti Junction,
1431
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,800
for the launch of the final Cold War
Steve Meets the Outside World piece.
1432
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,200
So, the final artwork
is a giant postcard,
1433
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,040
and in the true spirit
of meeting the outside world,
1434
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,560
instead of sending a tweet
which is instantly read,
1435
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:55,640
this is, a... old-school analogue...
postcard
1436
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,440
that's being delivered
to Coventry on a barge.
1437
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,160
Aah, and there's the barge.
1438
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,280
I actually completed
the artwork a week ago,
1439
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:07,760
if not less than that.
1440
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,440
And at that time, it was when
there was a lot of protest
1441
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:15,040
against, um, masks and COVID and...
1442
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,480
you know, how COVID
is just a conspiracy.
1443
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,480
So I wanted to have that on there,
1444
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,240
and also, obviously,
something to do with
1445
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,480
the government's handling
of the coronavirus.
1446
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,520
Where's the skipper?
CARL: Where is the skipper?
1447
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,000
Good to meet you, skipper.
1448
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,320
Hello, how are you?
Yeah! Ahoy.
1449
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,320
How you doing?
(LAUGHS) Yeah, I'm good, thanks.
1450
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,600
Thank you so much for doing this.
It's all right. It's been great.
1451
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,960
It's been a brilliant trip here.
I've had a great time.(LAUGHS)
1452
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,480
To launch the vessel, we've got
1453
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,520
someone who's actually appearing
in the artwork,
1454
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,600
and I've also got a couple of
showbiz pals coming along,
1455
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,320
hopefully, as well.
1456
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,160
Robert Kilroy-Silk used to end
every show of Kilroy with,
1457
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,480
"Take care of yourselves."
1458
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,240
That's where it's from.
1459
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:01,880
Who are you gonna address it to?
1460
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,240
The outside world,
I'm gonna address it to.
1461
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,600
Aah! Here's Dominic Cummings!
1462
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,960
Carl's having to escort him,
1463
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,000
because of, uh, his terrible
eyesight, of course.
1464
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,800
You all right, Dom?
1465
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,920
I christen this vessel...
(LAUGHS)
1466
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,800
..in the name of Dominic Cummings.
1467
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,360
May you have a safe journey
to Coventry,
1468
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,160
as Britain will be safe!
1469
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,680
God bless.
1470
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,400
(LAUGHS)
1471
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,040
Special guest appearance by...
1472
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,680
Ant and Dec!
1473
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,000
Hi, fellas!
1474
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,080
See ya later, lads.
1475
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,720
Thanks for coming down, fellas.
1476
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840
First time ever on a barge.
Yeah, me too.
1477
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,320
Me too.
1478
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,640
Last week, first time
building a jigsaw.
1479
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,120
It's just full of firsts.
1480
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:03,560
Right next to the Spaghetti Junction
and the M6. (SIREN WAILING)
1481
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,000
Ahoy!
Hello, there!
1482
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,840
That's a great setup!
1483
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,760
It's weird,
I used to walk down this canal
1484
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,720
with my eldest child in a buggy,
1485
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,120
from where we lived
to Sainsbury's down there.
1486
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,160
There's probably still a few
empty bottles of wine hidden.
1487
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,040
Yep. First lock action.
1488
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,080
But I tell you want. Locks are
analogue, aren't they?
1489
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,880
Locks are old-school.
1490
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,000
Much like the postcard.
1491
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:53,360
MAN: Hello?
1492
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,960
First maisonette that me and Kate
rented is that end one there,
1493
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,440
on the ground floor.
Wow.
1494
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:01,960
When Isabel, our oldest...
eldest daughter was born,
1495
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,400
that's where we took her back to.
1496
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:10,080
Never would I have thought that,
in, like, 15 years' time,
1497
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,360
I would be sending a giant postcard
down the canal.
1498
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,280
That's it, go now, go now.
1499
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,280
(GRINDING)
1500
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,040
Lovely bit of work, Chris.
1501
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,120
OMID: The whole point of being
a stand-up comedian,
1502
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,160
if you wanna do satire, is
to say what people are thinking
1503
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,720
but would never dare say.
1504
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,480
What Cold War Steve does,
1505
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,400
he does it so economically,
with one image,
1506
01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:48,040
and because people
have that connection
1507
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,280
with making collages at school,
1508
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,440
you see it and you think,
"Oh, my God. This is--
1509
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,840
"I'm used to this.
It's a very familiar artform."
1510
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,640
And the messages are immediate.
1511
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,880
And the point is,
anybody could do it.
1512
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,080
What Banksy does,
anybody could do.
1513
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,320
But the genius is they've
actually got up and done it.
1514
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:07,680
Why have you got, um...
1515
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,200
He's the one from, um, the band,
what's it called?
1516
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,960
What band is it?The Stone Roses.
The Stone Roses.Yes.
1517
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,400
And that's... I recognise that one.
David... Icke.
1518
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:19,800
Oh, yes. Is he still around?
It's very clever.
1519
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,440
I don't know.
It's brilliant.He's the artist.
1520
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:26,200
And that... Who's that guy?
He's, uh... Right Said Fred.Yes!
1521
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,240
Yes!Look, she's right on it!
I'm right on it.
1522
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,440
Oh, we know who that is. (LAUGHS)
1523
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:34,480
(WIND GUSTING)
1524
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,960
We were just wondering what the
update was with Coventry?
1525
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,080
I understand maybe it's become
a bit stricter, all of a sudden.
1526
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,120
MAN ON PHONE:
1527
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,840
Just to be clear, then,
what aren't we allowed to do?
1528
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,520
In theory, what are they saying
we cannot do?
1529
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,680
(ENGINE CHUGGING)
1530
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,520
MAN: I like the idea
that Cold War Steve
1531
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,000
could be a socio-political
commentator
1532
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,880
as well as an artist.
1533
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:38,120
Art can be the hymns
that are in a church,
1534
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,760
as much as it can be the postcard
on the barge
1535
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,640
from Birmingham to Coventry.
1536
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,400
Both of them are transporting
messages
1537
01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:51,840
that they want
the community to hear.
1538
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,240
It's really strange, this is.
1539
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,840
I've just finished a piece,
big sculptural piece,
1540
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,120
uh... which is based on
the Ship of Fools.
1541
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,280
Yeah?
Which has...
1542
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,920
exactly the same characters in,
plus Rees-Mogg.
1543
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,000
So, uh, it's very,
very funny, that is.
1544
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,400
Ooh, quarantine rave!
1545
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,680
(LAUGHS)
1546
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,600
Who's the one underneath?
1547
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,800
Oh, it's Cummings! He's-- (LAUGHS)
1548
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,680
(LAUGHING)
1549
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,880
What's happening?
You know how Coventry
1550
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,240
was supposed to be really...
1551
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,840
easy and...
Straightforward?Yeah.
1552
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,440
Yeah?
Yeah.
1553
01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:02,800
They don't want you in the, uh...
1554
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,160
They don't want you in the Basin.
1555
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,160
They're saying that the, uh...
1556
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,320
They don't want the boat,
or me, or...
1557
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,040
They don't want the artwork
in the Basin.In the Basin?
1558
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,320
They don't want it displayed
in the Basin.
1559
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,560
Er, if the boat goes
into the Basin,
1560
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,360
the artwork has to be covered over.
(LAUGHS)
1561
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,120
(GROANS) Oh, man.
1562
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,400
Yeah.
1563
01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:25,840
Come on, then.
1564
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,880
Maybe they're all fans
of Right Said Fred.
1565
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,240
Hey, look at this.
1566
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,440
It's brilliant, mate. Fantastic.
1567
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:52,680
Yeah, celebrations are in order.
1568
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,400
All right, cheers, mate.
Cheers, mate.
1569
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,760
Bye.
Let's hear the good news?
1570
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,880
Good news. The cultural department
have done a U-turn,
1571
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,800
and have basically said,
1572
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,680
"We'd like you to take the boat
into the Basin,
1573
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,600
"where people can attend
and have a look at the artwork."
1574
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,520
Whooo!
Yes!
1575
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,120
For the first time, I feel wanted.
1576
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,640
Welcomed. Which is nice.
1577
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,640
Cos, like I said, this isn't,
you know...
1578
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,680
This isn't nasty and cynical.
It's not gonna distress anybody.
1579
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,720
MAN ON PHONE: 'Hello?'
CARL: Hey, Julian, how are you?
1580
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,120
'I'm good, thanks.'We've just been
on a boat for the last two hours,
1581
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,520
so we haven't got a clue
what's going on.
1582
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,040
Do I take it, from an
announcement point of view--
1583
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,680
obviously, we've been quite coy
1584
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,640
about the fact we're gonna be
ending in Coventry this week.
1585
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,680
Are we--
Is there any change with that?
1586
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,440
You know, can we say
we're gonna be there?
1587
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:15,760
Mmm.
1588
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,600
Right.
1589
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,800
OK.Fine. All right.
'Yeah.'
1590
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,240
OK.No, that's fair enough.
1591
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,520
MAN: '..number of positive cases
in England has been rising
1592
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,080
'for over a month,
1593
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,120
'and the latest set of weekly data
from NHS Test and Trace
1594
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,040
'shows no sign
of this upward trend halting...'
1595
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,200
Cold War Steve
Meets the Outside World.
1596
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,440
Takes on a bit of an Odyssey now.
1597
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,760
It's actually the first time
I've come to Nuneaton
1598
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,880
since I was at art college.
1599
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,240
Nunueaton itself can be quite
dispiriting.
1600
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,760
But, um... nice people.
Not the art college,
1601
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,680
going to art college.No,
the art college was... was good.
1602
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,280
Fun.
Yep.
1603
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,560
What made you want to go to art
college?
1604
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,280
It was always the one thing
that I was sort of good at.
1605
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,760
You know, when kids are good at
something?Yeah.
1606
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,840
Mine was art and impressions.
1607
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,280
And when you left...
Did you pursue the degree?
1608
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,200
Yeah. Um...
1609
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,920
But what went wrong?
1610
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,640
I, uh...
1611
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,640
I don't... I think at that age,
I wasn't...
1612
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,680
I dunno, probably not mature
or focused enough,
1613
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,600
I don't think, to be honest.
1614
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,520
Just fucking... I don't know,
it's a really odd time, really.
1615
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,520
Um... didn't know what
I wanted to do.
1616
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,120
I just fucked around
and then got hideously in debt.
1617
01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:58,680
And then it started a career of,
uh...
1618
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,040
factory work and, you know...
1619
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,200
Back to art?
Horrible jobs.
1620
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,680
And it's a shame, cos my nan,
who died a few years ago,
1621
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,760
she was the one who was always
trying to get me to do art.
1622
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,040
She was... she'd, you know,
buy me the equipment,
1623
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,760
take me to galleries and, um...
1624
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,160
Her last sort of
memories of me is...
1625
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,440
sort of being
a low-paid road worker...
1626
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,040
uh, with a drink problem,
uh, and...
1627
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,240
like, going to her
and asking her for a loan.
1628
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,360
It's a step that
I was really dubious about.
1629
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,680
And you know, would my work
transfer to something big?
1630
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,760
And they've looked great.
Yeah.I've ab--
1631
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,000
Yeah. Really pleased
with how everything's gone,
1632
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,560
and I think that's given me
a lot of confidence
1633
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,000
to say, "Yeah, I am an artist."
1634
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,040
I am...
1635
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,200
a goddamn artist.
1636
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,680
There's a-- a thing
that all artists yearn for,
1637
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,200
which is an instantly
recognisable style.
1638
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,400
You can immediately say,
"That's Cold War Steve."
1639
01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:17,360
And it's funny, I mean,
it usually makes you smile.
1640
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,000
You're not quite sure why.
It's not saying...
1641
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,200
It's not rude.
1642
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,840
It's not abusive.
1643
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,160
And yet, it has a... a...
1644
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,920
a strength to it,
it has a kind of resonant anger
1645
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,240
that... that you can't
easily forget.
1646
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,440
Cold War Steve's images now
really have a visceral power.
1647
01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:42,960
It speaks to now, and that's
what makes great satire.
1648
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,480
It's not worried about the future.
1649
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:46,840
Um, and they're beautiful.
1650
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,360
I mean, you could just
stare at them for hours.
1651
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,960
It's that combination
of Where's Wally?
1652
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,560
something quite childlike,
1653
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,080
with, you know, the kind of
great mediaeval artworks.
1654
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,400
I think Chris--
uh, Cold War Steve, has...
1655
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,400
has done something that's unique.
1656
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,640
And he does make me laugh.
1657
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,600
And he makes me laugh
and think at the same time.
1658
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:11,680
To me, this is like a breath of
artistic, political fresh air.
1659
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,120
So this is the fucking bridge?
This is the bridge there.
1660
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,280
Is it that small?
It looks small! (LAUGHS)
1661
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,400
That's the bridge.Yeah, we're
not gonna get through there.
1662
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,120
Yeah. Bridge number one.
(GROANS)
1663
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:33,480
Nice one.
Hold on!
1664
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,120
Forwards...
1665
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,880
(GROANING)
1666
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,640
Steady on.
Yeah.
1667
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,280
Got loads of room to play with!
1668
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,520
What was everybody worried about?
What was... Yeah!
1669
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,280
"We'll never get through!
1670
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,880
"It'll be the last thing that stops
us getting to Coventry Canal!"
1671
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,880
# We don't know any more #
1672
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,840
Good!
Turned up.
1673
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,000
Hello, Coventry!
1674
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,360
It's a triumphant moment,
1675
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,120
being able to bring this giant
postcard into Coventry,
1676
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,320
but it's tinged with sadness
that the journey is over,
1677
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:38,040
and I must once again recoil
into my cocoon,
1678
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,040
get back up into the loft,
1679
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,680
turn on the computer...
Make sure that it's you.(LAUGHS)
1680
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,240
The material
is gonna keep flooding in,
1681
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,400
so I've gotta keep working.
1682
01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:51,440
Um, but this has been
an amazing experience,
1683
01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:53,400
meeting the outside world.
1684
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,400
But now, I must go.
1685
01:32:56,440 --> 01:33:00,960
Ladies and gentlemen, Cold War Steve
is leaving the outside world.
1686
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,080
# Now the party's over
1687
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,840
# I'm so tired
1688
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,720
# Much communication
1689
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,160
# Out of nowhere
1690
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,760
# Avalon #
1691
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,160
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