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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,400 The following programme contains strong language. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:12,240 The United Kingdom is totally fucked. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,000 Uh, I say that with a heavy heart. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,760 I think this country has-- 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,680 in the short space of eight years, 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,600 from the Olympics, which we now look back on as this incredible high, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,200 and it was a high... 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,720 To get from there to where we are, by degrees, 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,160 is desperately sad. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,600 But it-- it's also-- 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,800 It also means that, uh... 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,800 we need humour and satire more than ever. 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,520 MAN: '..experimental medicine at Imperial College, London, 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,800 'has said the UK needs to act fast to stop coronavirus cases... 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,000 '..the rule of six coming in on Monday, it's a restriction, 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,040 'the plan for Birmingham, Solihull and Sandwell, 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,240 'banning people from different households from socialising... 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,120 '..have to change parts of the EU withdrawal agreement. 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,840 'He said the government collectively has a responsibility, 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,280 'and they've got to resolve... 23 00:01:05,320 --> 00:01:07,520 '..restriction in northern England are going to include 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,440 'Liverpool, Warrington, Hartlepool and Middlesbrough... 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,760 '..EU are set to go before Parliament later. 26 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,400 'Boris Johnson is attempting to push through 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,960 'the internal market...' 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,040 (BIRDSONG) 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Cold War Steve began in, I think it was March 2016. 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Cold War Steve is Steve McFadden, Phil Mitchell, 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,080 who was in a Cold War scene. 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,360 And the joke was just the incongruous picture 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,200 of Steve McFadden in that scenario. 34 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:47,080 When it began, it was just... "Does this look funny?" 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 There was no thought about meaning or... 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,840 or context or anything like that. 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,800 And that's something that's evolved over the time. 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,200 I didn't know anything about Photoshop 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,720 or... or anything like that, it was just done... 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,240 cut out Phil Mitchell, put him in a photo. 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,120 I certainly didn't set out to create artistic masterpieces 42 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,680 or anything like that. 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,440 I've had bad mental health issues for my whole adult life, 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,920 but the beginning of 2016 was the lowest point, 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,080 you know, I was hospitalised, and coming out of there... 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,200 I decided I needed to... 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,560 Because I'd see things on the news or something, 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,840 and I'd be ranting and then just get pissed, and, you know... 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,960 there was no outlook for anything, so... 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,840 I decided to channel it into something positive, 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 or something creative or something that would be funny. 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,440 And... so it was just... this kind of form of therapy, really, 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,680 in just making the pictures and stuff like that. 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,880 If no one had liked it, I still would have carried on, 55 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:45,480 because I enjoyed making the pictures, 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,320 but it... it was brilliant that, along with making me feel better, 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,800 erm, it also got really popular. 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,160 I was sent a Cold War Steve, uh, collage, around 2016, 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,800 and just thought, "What is this?" 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,600 I had to make it bigger on my phone, 61 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:06,000 and it was just the joy of recognising people, 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,240 I thought, "Oh, that's someone... that's someone I know," 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,760 It's lots of faces from the '70s and '80s, 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,840 so I thought, "Hang on, this seems to be artwork geared to me." 65 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,040 It was quite early on, it was at the height of Brexit fever, 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,040 and so that's, uh, a lot of... 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,280 uh... a lot of that would involve buses 68 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,280 and, um... Michael Gove and Boris Johnson... (CHUCKLING) 69 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,120 ...and the... the... the wrecking crew. 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,880 I first came across Cold War Steve like I think a lot of people did. 71 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:36,040 I just stumbled across him on Twitter, 72 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,120 and was captivated by these images, 73 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,520 and was struck by how quickly the kind of people I knew 74 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,360 who were also on social media 75 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,120 were talking to each other about him. 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Very quickly, there was this sense that... 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,840 this was someone special, it wasn't just someone who'd come up with 78 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,400 a bit of a Twitter parody, um, shtick. 79 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,000 They were really profound and worthy of exploration. 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,600 Some are obviously more apparent than others. 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,200 I don't like to be too obvious. 82 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,120 You know, I use the... the symbolism 83 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,440 or different recurring themes that come back, 84 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,920 and just put them in. 85 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,560 But I never title them, I just put the.. the picture up. 86 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,360 STEPHEN: I think the reason that his works survive, 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,200 and continue to enthral and beguile, 88 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:26,000 is because they don't tell you what to think about them. 89 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,520 First of all, you look to see where Steve McFadden... 90 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,480 (LAUGHING) ..is going to be standing or sitting, 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,800 and what he's watching, then you follow his eyeline, 92 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:34,560 then you look at the other people 93 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,360 and say, "What are they looking at? 94 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,360 "And have you created what you're looking at?" 95 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,520 If it's a rubbish tip, "Did you make that rubbish tip? 96 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,040 "Or are you responding--" 97 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,360 You know, all this extraordinary conversation goes on 98 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,640 through the eyes and the... the placing of figures. 99 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,880 And yet... 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,800 two people could come to it 101 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,440 and see a totally different conversation going on. 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,400 The whole point of Cold War Steve 103 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,760 is you have these brilliant associations with people who... 104 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Like, Harold Shipman, I've noticed, has come up a lot. 105 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:05,440 Because Harold Shipman killed lots of old people, 106 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,280 I thought, "Oh, OK, what's that about? 107 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,080 "Aah, that might be about the deaths happening in care homes." 108 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,720 And then I saw Harold Shipman in the middle of, 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,880 it must be some kind of Conservative office, 110 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,240 and there, just in the corner, playing music, 111 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:20,080 is Harold Shipman and Fred West. 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,280 And you think, "What's Fred West doing there? 113 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,880 "He was a child killer." 114 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,400 And actually, you're now thinking, "Is he saying that actually, 115 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,840 "now kids are going back to school during a pandemic, 116 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:29,920 "they're killing children again?" 117 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,600 And that is dark, 118 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,840 but somehow, hilarious. 119 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,040 And the fact that we can say that in this country 120 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,200 is exactly what makes this country brilliant. 121 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,040 It's what makes this country-- 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,600 it's a free country and we have freedom of speech. 123 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,480 I filled in a form recently, it says "occupation" 124 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,760 and I put "artist", and it just felt really weird. 125 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,920 Cos I-- I mean, I am, that's what I do for a living, is... art, 126 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,600 but I don't think I'll ever... feel, you know... 127 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,520 totally comfortable in saying it. 128 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,000 I don't know, it just-- 129 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,640 The main thing I get... mental health was, 130 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,760 that I struggle with, is, um... 131 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,880 imposter syndrome, I think. 132 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,120 And just sitting here now is... 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,280 When I'm talking, like, every so often I think, 134 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,920 "What the fuck are they filming me for?" (LAUGHS) 135 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,640 Cos I'm still, you know, a factory worker or working on the roads, 136 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,920 and, you know, this is so new. 137 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Cos I've been doing it as a job for just over a year now, 138 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,760 when I gave up the day job. 139 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,200 So that... the pressure's there, like, "What if it all ends? 140 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,680 "What if it stops? I'm fucked. 141 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,440 "I can't... You know, I've got to..." 142 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,360 So there's that, but then there's always this... this kind of... 143 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,880 you know, it can't be right, 144 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,920 I can't be having stuff in museums 145 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960 and galleries and exhibitions and stuff, 146 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,400 because, you know, I was cleaning cones on the M42 in the snow, 147 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,080 like, you know, seven years ago. 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,760 For me, a clear comparison that I draw 149 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,640 between Cold War Steve works and art history 150 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,840 is with the Dada artists who emerged after World War I. 151 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,280 And they invented photo collage, and this montage, 152 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,280 and they were... they were cut and pasting political leaders 153 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,880 surrounded by machine-guns and, um, weapons of technology. 154 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,320 They were critiquing the world they saw around them, 155 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,800 and for me, that's what great art does. 156 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,760 It doesn't just reflect what's happening in the world, 157 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,240 it challenges it, and that's what 158 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Cold War Steve's doing with his work. 159 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,440 The social and political landscape of now is turbulent. 160 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Um... there is more information that is... 161 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,560 uh, that-- that is at my fingertips now 162 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,040 than has ever been before. 163 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,040 I can find out more about what is wrong with now, 164 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,960 and I can tell more people about it. 165 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,280 And they can tell more people about it, 166 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,240 and they can tell more people about it, 167 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,280 and then we can shout back, 168 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,440 and then we can take that information and we can march, 169 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,200 and we can meet, and we can talk, and we can, um... 170 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,160 we can fight back. 171 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Every piece that I end up doing, 172 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,520 first of all I do on a sort of cheap cut and paste app. 173 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,000 So, I'll find the background that I think I want to use... 174 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,720 So, it's just a very basic cut and paste... 175 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,040 So, I've got him, and then it's placing him 176 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,480 where I think I will want him, and getting the size, and... 177 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,840 Just like a sketchbook, I suppose, of different ideas, and... 178 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Some will take hours, and I'll-- I'll use layer after layer, 179 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,280 and some layers I'll get rid of, and... 180 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,280 But then, some I can just sit down and do very quickly, 181 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,080 and they're just as popular as the ones that take hours. 182 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,800 They do remind me of... 183 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Erm, it's so easy to sound pretentious 184 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,800 when you start talking about high art, 185 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,800 but, you know, Bruegel, 186 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,640 and, um, even Hieronymous Bosch, and Hogarth, 187 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:02,360 and you think of big panels, 188 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,200 Marriage A-la-Mode and Rake's Progress, and so on, 189 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,840 they do show... the sort of mud and dirt of English life. 190 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,840 And that's something that isn't often shown. 191 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,200 You know, there's a pastoral English view 192 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,880 that Samuel Palmer and other painters show you, 193 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,400 and Stanley Spencer shows you something rather sweet as well. 194 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,480 But, uh... Cold War Steve shows you-- 195 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,120 shows you the sort of... 196 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,560 that we're all peasants, we're all in the mud somehow. 197 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Um, and I think that's a very important part of what art can do. 198 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,840 It doesn't just ennoble, it also brings us properly down to earth. 199 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,080 This is all you, this is your... WOMAN: What? 200 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,520 ...displays of pride.Makes me seem very unsupportive, doesn't it? 201 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,600 MAN: But you're proud of him, Katie.Yeah! 202 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,600 You are proud of him? I am. 203 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,520 Yeah. Yeah, really, genuinely. 204 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,840 What's your favourite piece? 205 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Name one. (LAUGHTER) That one. That one there, 206 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,360 cos that's from Birmingham, so, yeah. 207 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Probably that one. Benny.Yeah. 208 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:03,000 Which is now going to be in the Birmingham gallery.Yes. 209 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,800 That's nice. 210 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,360 That one. Yeah. 211 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,640 What's your favourite Twitter one? 212 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:11,120 I'm not on Twitter. 213 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Oh. (LAUGHS) 214 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,920 That's probably-- that's probably a good idea, isn't it? 215 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Well, yeah. You don't want to be too involved. 216 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,880 It might go to his head. Yeah. 217 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Katie's very, uh, grounding. Yes. 218 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,080 In a good way. I like to have, like, the-- the indifference.Yes. 219 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,560 (BOTH LAUGH) Yeah! 220 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,600 No, I just leave him to get on with it.Hm. 221 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Cos there's-- there's other things for me to be getting on with. 222 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,920 Three children, a horse for a dog. 223 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,360 The house, the job. 224 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,280 What do you think of this, 225 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Cold War Steve Meets the Outside World, then? 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,160 (CHUCKLES) Yeah, it's good. It's very good. 227 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,960 It's nice to know that people appreciate what he does.Mm. 228 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,200 And get it. And get it, because I don't. 229 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,400 (LAUGHS) Right. 230 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,640 So, Cold War Steve Meets the Outside World, 231 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:06,360 because everything that I've done is small-scale, 232 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,720 designed for people to look at on a phone, 233 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,200 this is taking it beyond the next level. 234 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,160 So we're going big, outdoors, 235 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,920 in a sort of situationist way. 236 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,360 And it's a tour of... a kind of road trip around England, 237 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,840 starting at the Riverside Country Park, I think it is, in the Medway, 238 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,840 which obviously, cos it's such a monumental year news-wise for... 239 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:37,200 Um... obviously, the pandemic, so it's... 240 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,880 it kind of made sense to maybe get... a best of the year 241 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,520 in the, uh... in the location. 242 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:49,360 And then, after Medway, I think we're... Bournemouth. 243 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,040 So it's... a huge, two-sided windbreak. 244 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,840 One side positive, and the reverse side will be very unflattering. 245 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,080 And then, Liverpool, um... 246 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,120 it's gonna be a giant jigsaw, 247 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,360 floating on Albert Dock. 248 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,880 The final piece will be sending a postcard, a giant postcard, 249 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,320 from Birmingham, from the Spaghetti Junction, 250 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,720 sending it to Coventry, which is where we're heading now. 251 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,320 So we're coming up now, I think, to the Coventry Basin, 252 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,040 where I'm gonna meet Carl. 253 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,400 He's kind of my main man, 254 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,360 my mentor, manager, 255 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,000 uh... 256 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,360 It's more than a manager or agent type, 257 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,000 which I value him for, he's, you know... 258 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,920 someone that I can... sort of discuss things creatively... 259 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,680 So I'll do my... my pictures and things like that, 260 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,360 but outside of releasing things on Twitter, 261 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,760 it;s good to have, um... you know, Carl there to... 262 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,760 to make suggestions and... 263 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Oh, there he is! Yay! 264 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,040 Just talking about you, mate, to camera.Oh, right. 265 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Saying what a loathsome arsehole you are. 266 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,320 (BOTH LAUGH) 267 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Terrible pain in the arse. 268 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,880 This is a really nice location, isn't it? 269 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,080 I think it's great. And hopefully, 270 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,720 the weather will be like this permanently, as well.(LAUGHS) 271 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,360 Well, that bridge is bloody low, 272 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,360 but apparently, we've got it sorted, so... 273 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,160 the artwork is gonna nicely tuck away... 274 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,720 Pass underneath these low bridges. ..and pass underneath it. 275 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,520 We shall see. 276 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,680 We'll get, maybe, Sam Allardyce, 277 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,680 to be on the barge. 278 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,000 Is Allardyce gonna feature in the artwork, then?No. 279 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,080 But I think he could be good as the driver. 280 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,200 Yeah?Steering it. Yeah.You know? 281 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,880 (CHUCKLES)Why... why do you feel the need to have C celebrities... 282 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,320 D celebrities... Yeah... 283 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,520 ..people on the periphery... But they're always, um... 284 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:04,080 Like Sam Allardyce. That was... 285 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,200 that was something I used from the start, 286 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,840 as a-- a kind of blurring of celebrity culture and... leaders. 287 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,280 It stops the piece becoming too earnest. 288 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,160 We're filming it from Spaghetti Junction in Birmingham...Yeah. 289 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,480 Yeah. ...to here.Yeah? 290 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,440 How long do you think that would take? 291 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,200 Probably three days. (LAUGHS)But you'd be really... 292 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,160 I thought we'd do it in a day. I thought a day. 293 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,640 But you'd be really pushed... Like, set off at ten, 294 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,400 we'll be pulling into here at five. 295 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Birmingham, from the 19th century, through the 20th century, 296 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,200 up till today, has been the home of so many radical 297 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,440 and disruptive artists. 298 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,080 Birmingham is the second city, there's this outsider feel to it, 299 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,960 so artists feel, perhaps... 300 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,520 Well, maybe they feel like they have more to prove, 301 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,200 or maybe they feel more like there's nothing to lose. 302 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,000 But either way, it means the art coming out of Birmingham 303 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,640 has always been more radical than other places. 304 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Birmingham definitely shapes your outlook on... on the world 305 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,320 and on, uh, you know, political matters and things like that. 306 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,200 And it's very influential in what I do. 307 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,280 By and large, it's a bit shit, 308 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,360 but we, as Brummies, we know it's a bit shit. 309 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,280 We don't try and pretend it isn't, 310 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,160 which is part of its charm. (CHUCKLES) 311 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,520 If Cold War Steve's humour was, strictly speaking, 312 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,080 just Brummie humour, he wouldn't be so popular nationwide 313 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 and all... and around the world. 314 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,840 It may be Brummie humour, but he's found a way of speaking 315 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,280 from a Brummie perspective that people connect with. 316 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,840 It's pretty, uh... Hardcore. 317 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,560 Fuckin' hell. So this is only about four miles from your house. 318 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Yeah. Mediaeval, isn't it? 319 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Does anyone know which way Coventry actually is? 320 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,240 It's this way, look. Minworth, Tamworth, 40 miles. So...Ah. 321 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,280 Yeah, I mean, that... that is a... 322 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,080 It is a great spot. 323 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,560 Yeah.So you've got one... You've got one that just... 324 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Oh, right. Birmingham and Fazeley Canal.Right. 325 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,640 This is where three canals meet. (LAUGHS) 326 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,040 Great stuff for the launch pad. The launch pad would be here. 327 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,520 There's something about the bleakness 328 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,680 and the kind of overbearing concrete structures 329 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,280 that are around us that... 330 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,440 I think they're quite powerful. 331 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,040 I mean, I'll probably think about this later on tonight 332 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,760 and have a cold sweat. 333 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,320 But I think, in terms of locations, it's perfect, isn't it? 334 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,360 We can maybe get some dignitaries down here, 335 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,080 to wave us off. 336 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,520 WOMAN: 'The government's drawing up plans 337 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,800 'to override parts of the Brexit withdrawal deal. 338 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,080 'Critics say ministers are putting EU protocol...'(MACHINE WHIRRING) 339 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,320 COLD WAR STEVE: We're meeting Adam, 340 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:28,400 the man who's gonna materialise our massive project, 341 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,560 so it'll be interesting to see him, 342 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,560 because I haven't got a clue how he's going to do... (LAUGHS) 343 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,480 ..what we've got planned. 344 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,680 But apparently, he's the man who can. 345 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,840 (LAUGHS) 346 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,680 Hello, mate.Hello! Wahey!(ALL LAUGHING) 347 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,000 After you, mate.How you doing? Pretty good. 348 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,880 (CHUCKLING) 349 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,360 Hey, man, you all right? How are you?Very good. 350 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,000 Come in, into the office. Yeah!Excellent. 351 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Everything OK? Yeah, excellent. 352 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:58,680 Nice to finally meet you off Zoom. 353 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,040 This is cool. Quiet spot, as well. 354 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Yeah, it's great, isn't it? Cool.Great. 355 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,720 Yeah.That looks like a giant windbreak. 356 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,360 It does, doesn't it? 357 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,120 Something we can cover off today, 358 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,240 is give you a sense of scale. Mm. 359 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,200 How very big it's gonna feel. Mm.Mm. 360 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Yeah, its gonna be... That's... each section is... 361 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:20,160 about ten metres? Ten metres, yeah.Yeah. 362 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Jeez. 363 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Has it been a bit of an engineering conundrum then, 364 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,640 as regards stresses from the actual weight of the thing itself?Yeah. 365 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,800 But also, trying to factor in weather conditions? 366 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Everybody I've spoken to has... told me not to do it. 367 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:35,720 (LAUGHS)Not to do it. Yeah. 368 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,640 (ALL LAUGH) Why? 369 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,920 Cos you're... I mean, you're doing exactly what you... 370 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,640 what you shouldn't be doing on the beach, putting up something 371 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,600 that catches the wind.A massive sail, I suppose, isn't it?Yeah. 372 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,360 Have you got the design there? 373 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,680 This is obviously the horror side. 374 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Yeah. And it... 375 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,560 Yesterday, it did make me feel quite ill. 376 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,400 Playing on a number of things, 377 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,120 so it's COVID, refugee crisis, and Brexit. 378 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,640 But the other side, which I haven't finished yet, 379 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,400 will be the complete opposite, really. 380 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,880 Mm-hm.This is Bournemouth 2 and Bournemouth 1. 381 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,240 So this is currently what we're thinking for the jigsaw.Oh. Yeah. 382 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,560 Yeah. This is Trumpscape. 383 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,280 Mm-hm. Which is already a jigsaw. 384 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,400 We just thought it would be amazing absolutely massive.Mm. 385 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Barge. Barge.Yes. 386 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,280 We saw a very low bridge, didn't we?Very low.That-- Yeah. 387 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,840 But you-- you're confident that... they haven't just, like, 388 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,160 forgotten about that bridge at the end?(LAUGHS) 389 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,160 Let's say that I am confident. (LAUGHS) Yeah! 390 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Let's act like that. Yeah. 391 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,400 Um... So the latest design is, when it's not up, 392 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,840 it's like this. Yeah. 393 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,680 And then that can move... (COUGHS) 394 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,320 ..up like this. 395 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,560 Can I have a look in the studio? Yeah. 396 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,040 We should go and have a look at the samples. 397 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,680 Brilliant. These are all the Medway prints. 398 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,600 Are these the final prints? Yep. 399 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,960 Brilliant. Put that down...Yes! 400 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,760 Super Saturday! That is Super Saturday. 401 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,200 Lovely. 402 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 So, basically, we get these, 403 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,520 and make a framework to the same size. 404 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,240 That looks amazing. That does look good. 405 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,160 I mean, the idea is to have the framework and everything 406 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,880 as kind of utilitarian and as low-profile as possible.Yeah. 407 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,920 I think it's fantastic. 408 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,440 Not used to seeing them this size? No. 409 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,280 (LAUGHS)Piss Stop, A1(M). Piss Stop on the A1(M). 410 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,600 On the A1(M).North. 411 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,240 Do you reckon that was your biggest ever engaged picture on Twitter? 412 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,600 It was, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 413 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,880 That car is, um... Mussolini's. 414 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Pissing on his own advice. 415 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,400 Yes! Oof! 416 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,600 It's really sad, isn't it, actually? 417 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:08,400 SAMIRA: I think the single most useful thing 418 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,200 in understand why Cold War Steve and his art 419 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,640 is so perfect right now, and will endure, 420 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,760 is because, in an age where 421 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,800 there's all this seething rows on social media, 422 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320 and everything's moving so fast, and everything's amplified, 423 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:28,200 his artwork is somewhere peaceful where you sit and you contemplate. 424 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,360 And it's that deep, slow contemplation 425 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,760 which takes you out of the daily kind of news cycle, 426 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800 and... and lets you... 427 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,440 just pause. 428 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,600 All these things shall pass. 429 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,800 WOMAN: 'The Chief Medical Officer has warned 430 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,480 'people have relaxed too much, 431 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,520 'causing a sharp rise in coronavirus cases across the UK. 432 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,760 'Nearly 6,000 new positive tests 433 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,560 'were reported in London two days...' 434 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,520 If you'd have told me a year ago 435 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,080 that something like this was happening, 436 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,600 I'd imagine, you know, months in preparation, and planning, 437 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,960 and various organisations to bring things and make things, 438 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,440 and to think that it's going to be up in, like, you know, 439 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240 less than a couple of weeks... (LAUGHS) 440 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,880 .with just, you know, myself doing the artwork, 441 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,360 Carl doing the planning and stuff, and then Adam making everything, 442 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,560 yeah, it's... it's good. 443 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:24,800 This is where the neighbours start to ask questions. 444 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,400 Yeah! (LAUGHS) 445 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,360 (GROANING) 446 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,760 Bend your knees!Gaaah! Bend your fuckin' knees! 447 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,080 So that's a panel. 448 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,120 Fuck. 449 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600 No fuckin' around with it, is there? (BOTH LAUGH) 450 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,160 At the minute, we've got the more positive imagery, 451 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,600 hopeful imagery, in shadow on the reverse. 452 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,120 Mm.So I think we might need to... 453 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240 think about flipping 'em round. 454 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,160 So this side is the hopeful, positive imagery...Mm. 455 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,560 ..and the inside is naturally darker. 456 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,920 I need to get back and get cracking.Yeah. 457 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Cos time's a-running out. I've done the hellish side, 458 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,680 and that was a conscious decision, to get that side done first. 459 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,440 You know, it does drag you into kind of a dark place. 460 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,280 I got up really early Sunday morning, 461 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,120 and started delving into the... the piece again, 462 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,120 erm... and I... you know... immersing myself in it, 463 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,440 and then I thought, "I've gotta go to ASDA 464 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,720 "to get some dinner for the kids," cos my wife was at work. 465 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Went over to ASDA and... erm... 466 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,360 they'd moved... 467 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Cos they're having a refit, where the... 468 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,200 I went to buy pork, where the pork was, there was fruit there, 469 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,120 and it just started throwing me, and it was really busy, 470 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,440 and I... I kind of just, uh... 471 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,880 I had a massive, um... sort of anxiety, panic attack, 472 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,160 and just hid by the dog food section. 473 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,120 Uh... and... 474 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,160 was just, like, in floods of tears. 475 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,600 And... and I rang my wife, who left work 476 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,520 and turned up at ASDA in a care worker thing, 477 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,240 and kind of guided me out without making a scene, 478 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,200 and paid for what we had. 479 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,320 You know, I think you have to give a lot of yourself. 480 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,400 Years ago, at a very low ebb, on holiday, I... 481 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,800 And it's really bad. I intentionally walked out into the sea, 482 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040 hoping that it would swallow me up. 483 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760 Um... And I was walking out, 484 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,480 and then a piece of rope hit my leg. 485 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,640 And I went, "Eurggh!" and ran out. 486 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,400 And I always think back to that strange bit of rope. 487 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,000 It's just it.. probably saved me. 488 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,120 You know, my wife as well, I owe so much to her, 489 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,720 cos she's... she looks out. 490 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,000 She knows that I'm probably not... the best, you know, mentally, 491 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600 and she'll-- she'll look out for me. 492 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,560 (BIRDSONG) 493 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,920 COLD WAR STEVE: Yes, I've got the essentials. 494 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,880 Deodorant, meds. 495 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,880 Bit apprehensive. I've not been away for this long, have I, Katie? 496 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,360 Um...Katie's distraught. 497 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,600 Oh, Hugo, though. 498 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Hugo? I'm gonna miss the big Hugo. 499 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Right? 500 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,520 (GEESE CALLING) 501 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,320 This is very, uh, splendid, isn't it? 502 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,400 It's nice. Nice! 503 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,240 I've officially left the house. 504 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,800 Let's go and meet the world. 505 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,800 The outside world. The outside world. 506 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,960 Bye, ASDA. 507 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,840 MAN: '..area of England to be subject to a local lockdown. 508 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,800 'The new restrictions coming in at midnight 509 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,120 'are due to a rise in coronavirus cases across the region. 510 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960 'It's thought around two million people could be affected, 511 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,920 'in areas including County Durham, Sunderland and Newcastle...' 512 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,080 From the bottom, there... 513 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,800 Well, that's another one done. 514 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,800 Departed Birmingham this morning, 515 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600 in this fabulous motor home. 516 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,400 It's very much the, um, HQ 517 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,080 of this tour of England that we're doing. 518 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:02,080 We're now entering my first stop, Tilbury. 519 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,280 And why Tilbury? 520 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,120 Erm, it's near to where the first exhibition is, in Medway. 521 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,360 Obviously, there's a lot of history, historical docks. 522 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,160 Erm, it's where the Windrush, Empire Windrush landed in 1948. 523 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,720 (SIGHS) This is the big leap into the outside world. 524 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,600 Hello, outside world. 525 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,600 (HORN BLARING) 526 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Wahey! Ah, he did beep at me. 527 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,640 So, me meeting the outside world, now I'm getting a bit apprehensive. 528 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,160 They beep and shout. (CHUCKLES) 529 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,320 I spend a lot of time, uh, scrolling through photographs 530 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:48,000 of streets like this, of buildings like that. 531 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,520 If I put "AB" into my search drive, it comes up, 532 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,560 "abandoned shop, abandoned theatre, aband--" 533 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,560 You know, it's all... anything that's abandoned, 534 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,680 cos it just, you know, from an artistic point of view, 535 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080 they just look great, but they also obviously convey 536 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,040 a perfect message of what I'm trying to get across as well. 537 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,880 So seeing things like this is firing up my imagination. 538 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,160 I think I would take affront at an artist using the backdrops 539 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,640 and stuff I do, if they use a backdrop that's dystopian, 540 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,360 just to, you know, make a picture look funny or something, but... 541 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,720 I use them because I was putting the people that I thought were... 542 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,600 were causing the most deprived areas to suffer. 543 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,760 I was putting these, the makers of that, into it, 544 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,600 so I was putting your Rees-Moggs, 545 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,880 and your Michael Goves, Boris Johnsons. 546 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,040 This is of your doing, this is of your making, 547 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,000 so I'd stick them in there. 548 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,000 A year ago, I'd have had a picture with that Stallions sign, 549 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,200 and then I'd put... Photoshopped that in front of it. 550 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720 You know, that would have been, uh, you know... 551 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,080 a Cold War Steve picture in itself. 552 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,120 And now it's... now it's reality. 553 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,440 (CHUCKLES) 554 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,560 Tilbury Docks. 555 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600 Yeah.So this is, I understand, 556 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,080 the exact place where Windrush docked in 1948. 557 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,480 Yeah. Wow. 558 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,360 You see the old Pathe news footage of the, erm... 559 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,280 people from Jamaica with, like, the... the pork-pie hats 560 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,320 and the suits and stuff. 561 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,880 And obviously, it's 70-odd years later, 562 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,160 where you've got people that have lived in Britain, 563 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,200 were born in Britain, spent their whole lives here, 564 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,360 and contributed so much to this country, 565 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640 suddenly find themselves getting arrested 566 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,200 and... and... detained, uh, and... and deported. 567 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,160 People came here to help us out and work post-war, fill post-war jobs, 568 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,040 but they've done much more than that, 569 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840 you know, they've enriched our whole society, 570 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,080 um... immeasurably. 571 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,520 Er... And so, really, when you look and think this is where it... 572 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680 it kind of started, that's... 573 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,480 The borders we have are either fake, 574 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,000 set up by politician after wars, 575 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440 or dictated by the sea. 576 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,000 Right? They're all fake. Right? 577 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,560 So I come to the terms with myself that I'm an internationalist. 578 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Once I do that, I'm not really concerned too much 579 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,280 about one nation or another. 580 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,320 I cared about the people of Iraq 581 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,120 just the same as I cared about the people of England, 582 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200 or I cared about the people of Azerbaijan, 583 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,920 just as much as I cared about the people of Nigeria. 584 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,960 But that's not the way people are tending to move. 585 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,120 People are tending to go back into their shell. 586 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,920 (MOTOR STARTS) 587 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,680 ON RADIO: 'So it's about three curves, 588 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,600 'so shall we get-- shall we give it a go?' 589 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,800 Roger, Rog. 590 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,480 CARL: One of the things that we did wanna do 591 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,560 with the locations of these four works was, 592 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,880 we wanted there to be, you know, a city, 593 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,320 and, erm, something in the countryside, and... 594 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040 But, really, it was just about making sure 595 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120 that we were getting a spread of places across the country. 596 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,560 Ideally, it would have been across the UK. 597 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,080 But you have to remember, 598 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,160 when we first started talking about this project, 599 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,640 it was deep in lockdown, and so at that point, 600 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320 when we started to think about where we could go, 601 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,480 it was really, like, "Where can we go?" 602 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960 You know, "What can we turn round at this time?" 603 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240 I guess that's how we found ourselves here. 604 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,520 They've announced lockdown in the northeast. 605 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760 It's not where we're going. 606 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,960 Uh... But I guess things are 607 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,320 starting to look a bit more serious everywhere again. 608 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,400 Er, as it stands, none of the locations that we're going to 609 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,080 are affected, but I think we're... 610 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,000 Oh, I don't know, I'm starting to worry that perhaps, you know, 611 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,600 it's only a matter of time 612 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,880 8before there's a spanner thrown in the works.(MACHINERY WHIRRING) 613 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,600 WOMAN: '..the emergency committee, 614 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,480 'including the leaders of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, 615 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,800 'before making his official announcement later tonight. 616 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120 'It comes after his top medical advisors 617 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880 'yesterday recommended raising the alert level.... 618 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,920 (PHONE RINGS) 619 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,920 Hello? Yeah, yeah. You're on loudspeaker. 620 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880 MAN: 'Uh, just to sort of update you, 621 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,840 'there've been a few developments this morning. 622 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960 'Um... So, there is I believe, 623 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,480 'one Tory councillor who is very upset about the artwork. 624 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,440 'Um, and is, I think, kicking up a little bit of a stink.' 625 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,400 (LAUGHS)'Um, so... it's creating a little bit of a... 626 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,520 'a furore, I think the word is. 627 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,920 'Um... And, as well, I've just been wandering around on site, 628 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,480 'and we've had some interesting mixed reactions.' 629 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,840 Mixed reactions? 'Um, ranging from lovely, 630 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600 'slightly befuddled, to one guy who was very irate. 631 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,120 'But, yeah, just so you know. 632 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720 'So that's even before we've--' Before we've even opened it, 633 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,000 there's tension and there's... 'Don't like to cause a... 634 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,880 ..Tory councillors irate. 635 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680 We need to get there and film, quickly, and, uh...'Yeah.' 636 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,240 ..open it and do one! (LAUGHS) 637 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,560 Thanks, Mark. See you in a bit. 'OK. Bye.'Bye, bye. 638 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,640 Having a backlash on Twitter, you can mute or not read or... 639 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,400 You know, it's still quite, you know... still hurts sometimes, 640 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,640 but you can just put it down. 641 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840 But irate people... 642 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360 on their patch... 643 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,840 (INHALES) 644 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,320 Latest on Cold War Steve on Twitter, 645 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,800 these are tweets what people have put about my Medway thing.Right. 646 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,880 Already? Already. 647 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,280 "Art? Art? 648 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,840 "Where's my spray can? Political rubbish shouldn't be up there." 649 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,200 (LAUGHS) 650 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,000 Another one. 651 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,960 Oh, Megan's put, "I wonder, would you feel the same if... 652 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360 "if it was art that agreed with your politics? 653 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600 "Are we really going to try and censor art? 654 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,880 "What next? Music?" 655 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,320 "No! Art, if it's being displayed in a beautiful place 656 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,040 "like a country park where people go to look at nature 657 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,240 "should be proper!" 658 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,880 Capital letters. "Art. 659 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,560 "Landscapes! Nice things! 660 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,760 "Not something that looks like my grandchild did at school. 661 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,440 "I'm just fed up with people putting this country down all the time." 662 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,440 Megan's just put, "It's just pictures." 663 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,240 You know, this is certainly meeting the outside world full-on, isn't it? 664 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,680 Yeah. 665 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:33,640 You know, I'm not going to some sort of Cold War Steve Appreciation... 666 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,440 Society!Village hall somewhere. 667 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,600 Really are going fucking headlong into it, aren't I?Yeah. 668 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,680 Yeah. 669 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,280 (SIGHS) We'll see. 670 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,680 STEPHEN: Words have begun to fail us. 671 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:54,480 Erm, comedians and politicians and intellectuals 672 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,480 no longer have the language with which 673 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,840 to cajole and persuade people, 674 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,440 uh, into anything other than their entrenched positions. 675 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,880 It's, you know... 676 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,440 So it seems to me that, uh, things like paintings and, um... 677 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,720 and works of art like... like the sort of, uh... 678 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,040 the mash-ups that... that Cold War Steve, uh... gives us, 679 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,360 are probably the best way we have of just inspecting ourselves. 680 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,440 I always talk about, um... 681 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,160 collagist John Heartfield, 682 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,240 who was doing his anti-Nazi stuff in Nazi Germany, 683 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,640 and how, you know, what he did, it was brave, 684 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,880 and what I do isn't brave. 685 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,880 Cos I'm sat behind a screen. 686 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,480 I'm not comparing me going to Medway now as being brave, 687 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,280 or comparing it to John Heartfield, 688 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,680 but it's given me a little taster of, uh... 689 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,880 of the dangers involved in, uh... 690 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,800 in being a satirist. 691 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,720 I think satires here, I mean, in any normal situation... 692 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,520 the cut and thrust of politics is kind of enjoyable. 693 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,360 But it's not if it's chaos. 694 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,880 It makes you feel frightened. 695 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480 And that's why people end up sort of huddling together 696 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920 and not wanting to look at this sort of stuff, 697 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,600 because it makes them feel uncomfortable. 698 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,840 And its job is to make you feel uncomfortable. 699 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,640 That's why particularly Cold War Steve nails it, 700 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,440 because he can conjure a sort of image, 701 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,880 a feeling of what it's like, 702 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,840 especially when we're told it's all sunlit uplands 703 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,320 and, erm, world-beating and everything, 704 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,680 and just with the careful choice of the right sort of high street, 705 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,920 or, um, cafe interior, 706 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,280 he sort of makes you think, "Yeah, that's what Britain's really like. 707 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,160 "Shit." (LAUGHS) 708 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,360 Just pulling into the... country park. 709 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,240 Looking for placards, looking for... 710 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,560 burning crosses. 711 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,680 Bedsheets hastily painted with some sort of slogan. 712 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,840 Feeling nervous? Little bit. 713 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,320 (SIGHS) 714 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:33,760 MAN: '..restriction within part of West Yorkshire and the Midlands, 715 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,520 'with a ban on socialising with people 716 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,320 'outside of households and bubbles, in private homes and gardens. 717 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,560 'Earlier on, the Health Secretary...'(BIRDS CALLING) 718 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,760 CARL: I was, um, just chatting to Jason. 719 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,800 COLD WAR STEVE: Mm. And, uh... 720 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,400 I don't think he was wanting to really... 721 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920 get into it, particularly, 722 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,280 because obviously, we're sort of fighting 723 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,560 a little bit of a... small fire, here.(LAUGHS) 724 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,680 But he was, uh, telling me that there might be some beef 725 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,120 with Bournemouth. Oh, for fuck's sake.Yeah. 726 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,720 The new head of the council there was voted in this week, 727 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,240 and everything has to go through him.Oh, God. 728 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,400 I think he requested the artwork. (LAUGHS) 729 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,640 Or, his office has requested the artwork. 730 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,600 And have they seen the artwork? I think they have, yeah. 731 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,920 They asked us if they could, uh... 732 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,240 put a hold on the promotional activity for the time being. 733 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,960 (LAUGHS) Sounds ominous. 734 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,360 Does, doesn't it? That's gonna be, uh... 735 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,240 censorship. 736 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,240 Yup. 737 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,600 (WIND GUSTING) 738 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160 Murdoch's still standing. 739 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,240 Hasn't had anything thrown at it. 740 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,040 That's good. 741 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,200 Everywhere's kicking off, now. 742 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,160 Now they've realised what it is that I do! (LAUGHS) 743 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,760 Oh, I hope we get to put Bournemouth up. 744 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,480 Even if it's just for... (LAUGHS) just for an hour. 745 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,280 Hooray! Super Saturday! 746 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,600 Looks good! Looks great, mate. 747 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,520 Looks great, there, doesn't it? 748 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,440 Art? Art? 749 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,240 Why don't we put a Constable Hay Wain there? 750 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,920 Yeah. Wonder if anyone's clocked, uh... 751 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,560 Shipman discussing tactics with, uh, Hancock. 752 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,840 Learning from the master! 753 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,360 You know, very strong opinions 754 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,320 and anxieties that I channel into my art. 755 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,040 I mean, no one could have a problem with this. 756 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,720 Apart from Farage. 757 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,080 Carl? Are they friendly? Hello. 758 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,040 Yeah, yeah, they are, yeah. We are. We don't bite.Yeah. 759 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080 These... I'm sorry, I've forgotten your names already. 760 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,600 No, that's all right. I'm Imogen and this is Laura. 761 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,960 Hi.And we're... we work for Medway 2025 City of Culture bid.Oh! 762 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,320 Nice to meet you. Welcome. Nice to meet you. 763 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,400 It's nice to get a friendly welcome. 764 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,040 There's some tension about the artwork, apparently. 765 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Um...Oh, really?Yeah?Really? 766 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480 There's been some really good stuff on Twitter. 767 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,400 Has there?People... Yeah.Yeah, we've seen some good reactions. 768 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,560 So, like, especially, like, on the Medway2025 hashtag, as well, 769 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,440 people are saying this is the best thing to happen to Medway all year. 770 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,360 So...Great.Yeah. There are friendly people. 771 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,360 Is this the grand revealing? Well, yes. 772 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,000 Yeah.Yeah.In a low-key way. Yeah.(LAUGHTER) 773 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:19,280 I hereby unveil the final piece of the Medway exhibition. 774 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,600 (CHUCKLES) They've really shrink-wrapped this one well. 775 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,080 But it's a good spot for, um, contemplation, I think. 776 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,560 Uh, which... 777 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,240 This is definitely the hardest-hitting one. 778 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,400 Um, there's no comedy in this one whatsoever. 779 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,320 This is proper angry, full-on protest art. 780 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,040 Um... 781 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,440 When you just think of the hatred towards these fellow human beings, 782 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,280 and the complete lack of compassion that there is at the moment... 783 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,800 So I hope people just stop and contemplate it, really. 784 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,440 MAN: Don't know how well it's gonna go down in these parts, 785 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,360 but, uh, hopefully, I mean, some people might see, sort of, 786 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,480 things for what they really are, uh, perhaps. 787 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,400 MAN 2: The art here asks so many questions, 788 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,360 it's almost a time capsule of what was happening at that time, 789 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,600 it's a commentary on a lot of social issues, 790 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,000 which maybe, for some people, are quite hard to take. 791 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,320 Just had word that, uh, the council have met, 792 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,160 and it's all fine. 793 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,720 Bournemouth?No, here.Oh,here? 794 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,920 They've agreed that the artwork should stay up. 795 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,520 They stand by their decision. 796 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,840 In their words, all publicity is good publicity. 797 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,840 And the two that really caused the issues 798 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,520 was Priti... 799 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,000 uh, that was the one that's been flagged up 800 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,800 as being the most offensive, inappropriate... 801 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,120 Upsetting, I think, was a word that was used. 802 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,960 Um, but the other one, A1 Piss Stop. 803 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,760 Really?Dominic Cummings having a piss, 804 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,680 apparently, is more upsetting and offensive than... 805 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120 a mass grave. A mass grave.Yeah. 806 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,760 They're more offended by lewd behaviour...Oh! 807 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,760 ..than they are by the idea... By the meaning or comment. 808 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,480 Yeah. 809 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,400 They're realistic. Um... 810 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,000 I wonder if it's part photograph and something else there. 811 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,120 There's a guy there in the water 812 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,840 and all these boats around him, 813 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,760 they're like ducklings, you might have said. 814 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,320 Yes, it's something to do with the COVID-19, 815 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,360 and perhaps Harold Shipman and his, um, previous history 816 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560 of... eliminating the elderly and the frail. 817 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,680 Not my form of art, put it that way. (LAUGHS) 818 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,520 I don't know if the artist has funded this himself, 819 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,680 but if it's taxpayers' money and council tax, 820 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,600 I'm a bit disappointed to think that they haven't got better things 821 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080 to spend their money on, to be quite honest. 822 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,760 Very political, very interesting. 823 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,600 I think we agreed with its sentiments, so yeah, it's great. 824 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,320 It's really fascinating. We haven't got round to the others yet. 825 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,280 so we're gonna go and have a look. 826 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,040 What's your thoughts? Yeah, the same, really, 827 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,160 I thought it was quite... shocking, but it was good. 828 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600 I was really pleasantly surprised 829 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680 to find that we had Cold War Steve coming to Medway. 830 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,080 All I can imagine is that the, uh... 831 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,920 the councillors and the administration 832 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,440 had never heard of him, cos I'm pretty certain 833 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,320 that he's skewering quite a few of their heroes, 834 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,680 and I don't think they would take too kindly to it 835 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,280 if they had realised just what they were letting themselves in for. 836 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,600 So as we film, um... this piece called The Wave is... 837 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,680 or, The Second Wave, is unfortunately... 838 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,040 proving to be rather prescient of me. 839 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:58,360 I think this is my favourite spot of the whole exhibition walk. 840 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,080 Nice bench where you can sit and quietly contemplate the artwork. 841 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,480 Generally, cos it's on a phone and people... 842 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,720 it's very much scrolling and pinching and zooming 843 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,960 and, um... you can't sit down and properly contemplate it 844 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,280 as you can here with this. 845 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,920 It's the anti-white wall gallery, 846 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,080 because there's not a white wall there, 847 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560 there's, uh... the beautiful Medway, 848 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,520 with some beautiful industrial action on the horizon, as well. 849 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,560 We see a lot of artists creating glossy images 850 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,360 built for social media, which then don't work offline. 851 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,320 The difference with Cold War Steve is that his works, 852 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,520 they're great online, but when you see them in the flesh, 853 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,000 they evoke quite an emotional response in the viewers. 854 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,840 We've seen that in terms of how 855 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,840 people have been responding on Twitter. 856 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560 Erm, you can see then in Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery, 857 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,120 hanging alongside Pre-Raphaelite masterpieces, where they belong. 858 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,960 Hey, good, how are you? (LAUGHS) 859 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,400 Good, man. Looks great. 860 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640 Yeah.Everything looks great. Yeah.Nice day for it. 861 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,640 Yeah. How's your reactions been? 862 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,760 Positive. 863 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,840 Good. Yeah. Mo-- Yeah. 864 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,960 Better than expected. 865 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,040 Certainly, whenever I do bump into people, 866 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,840 speak to people, 867 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,600 I see no evidence of the hatred, and the bitterness, 868 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,120 and the impatience, and the resentment, and the anger, 869 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,880 all the negative and horrible things 870 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,400 that are exhibited on social media. 871 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,600 It's as if, um... rather than social media being a mirror 872 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,840 or... or a representation, 873 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,880 it's a kind of... strange portal 874 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,680 into an anti-matter version of society. 875 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,640 MAN: '..are against us. 876 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,760 'But now, going into the seasons late autumn and winter, 877 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,960 'which benefit respiratory viruses, I think it's very...' 878 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,880 September 23rd... 2020. 879 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,600 Meeting the outside world. 880 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,640 Here we find ourselves... 881 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,120 with a backdrop of test and trace tents. 882 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,360 (MAN CHUCKLES) Managed by Serco. 883 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,360 How they can get any contract... 884 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,280 There doesn't seem to be any test and trace going on. 885 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,720 I think the guy under the umbrella having a fag 886 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,280 is the embodiment of the test and trace system. (LAUGHTER) 887 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,920 The whole test and trace area 888 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,880 basically consists of folorn-looking men under umbrellas. 889 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,240 (LAUGHTER) 890 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,960 There's a train here. I wonder if our man's on it. 891 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120 It's Positive Carl. (MAN LAUGHS)Hello. 892 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,800 Hello. 893 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,960 CARL: Today, we were supposed to be loading in at whatever time, 894 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,240 seven am this morning. 895 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,240 The crew, the trucks, all the plant hire, 896 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,080 everything was going down last night. 897 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,920 And then, literally, as they were about to set off, 898 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,120 got a phone call to say that the new head of the council 899 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,400 had withdrawn permission. 900 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,800 So, at the very last minute, we had to... 901 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,400 put everything on hold. 902 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,200 What's the latest? What's the update? 903 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,560 Have you got any good news from Bournemouth? 904 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,920 ADAM ON PHONE: 905 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,160 Has there been any talk about how it's going to be covered over? 906 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,160 OK, mate. Well, you know, 907 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,040 I'm really hoping we don't have to go down this route. 908 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,760 All right, Carl. Cheers, mate. 909 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,600 Chris, take care. Cheers, mate. 910 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,040 Bye. Bye. 911 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,880 (SIGHS) 912 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,560 Fucking black paint. 913 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,440 This is from Councillor Howell. Councillor Howell. 914 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,000 "I have decided to withdraw permission 915 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,000 "for the Cold War Steve artwork for the following reasons. 916 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,400 "The artwork portrays Bournemouth, and, therefore, its citizens, 917 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,400 "in a negative light. 918 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,360 "We were given no indication that it would... 919 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,400 "that it would reference Bournemouth, 920 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,840 "not does Cold War Steve's previous work available online. 921 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,520 "The artwork was misrepresented to us. 922 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,800 "We knew it would have a subversive element, 923 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,600 "but were told it would be playful 924 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,240 "and in line with Cold War Steve's previous images. 925 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,040 "There is nothing playful about the dystopian image. 926 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,280 "It is hard-hitting political content. 927 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,800 "And the council should not promote or be perceived promoting 928 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,000 "particular political viewpoints. 929 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,360 "The artist is free to promote his work 930 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,440 "through multiple commercial channels, 931 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,760 "so this is not an issue of censorship. 932 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,800 "We do not feel..." Yes it fucking is. 933 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,240 "We do not feel that Cold War Steve 934 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,720 "has shown enough respect for the town's residents, 935 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,800 "who have done nothing to be singled out for this treatment." 936 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,360 (LAUGHS) People on the dark side have no connection to Bournemouth. 937 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,120 Is there anyone local to Bournemouth on the dark side?No! 938 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,440 I mean, maybe... No.No. 939 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,480 (TRUCK BLEEPING) 940 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,320 (GROANS) 941 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,200 It's still exciting. 942 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,480 Just to think that I'm responsible for all these people digging 943 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,480 and putting massive concrete things into the sand. 944 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520 And... and this huge... 945 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,480 I will never do anything on a scale like this again, I don't think. 946 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,560 But then, frustrating that... 947 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,480 people may not be able to see... 948 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,280 I mean, it'll be nice to see the one side, anyway. 949 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,760 But it is one piece of artwork that has two sides. 950 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,120 I've not come here just to do a really positive piece 951 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,360 on... on Bournemouth. 952 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:11,400 So I suppose the elephant in the room is the covering of one side. 953 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,160 Yeah.Well, we talked about draping it. 954 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,720 But if you put a... a wool, or even a cotton drape on it, 955 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,240 it gets wet, 956 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,960 and then it increases the load on the structure. 957 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040 Yeah, yeah.Right.So it needs to be like a rubble bag. 958 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,040 Right.You know, it's slightly thicker plastic.OK. 959 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,440 It's not bin bag material, it's thicker.Right! (LAUGHS) 960 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,440 Brilliant. Really ugly. 961 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,400 Good. Good! (LAUGHS) 962 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,560 There's been a bit of a delay in getting the posts in. 963 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,800 It's the highest tide for 18 years. 964 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,120 That hole is about two metres deep. Shit. 965 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,440 Or it was when we dug it. That's not rain or anything?No. 966 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,640 It's water table. And it's coming up.Shit. 967 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,640 So there's a double jeopardy situation going on, almost, 968 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,080 in that Councillor Howell wants to put a stop to it, 969 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,560 but nature may put a stop to it anyway. 970 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,440 WOMAN: '..further 6,874 people have tested positive for coronavirus 971 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,240 'across the UK in the latest daily statistics. 972 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,360 'It's another record figure, but officials say 973 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,320 'that is partly because of an increase in testing. 974 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,920 'A woman...' 975 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,200 CARL: I'm looking for shells, 976 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,480 trying to chill out. 977 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,160 Yesterday, we weren't sure it was gonna go up. 978 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,520 I think they're about a day behind, so, erm... 979 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,720 it's sort of all systems go to try and get it up today. 980 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,320 Now we've got the piece going up with one side covered, 981 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,160 and it's starting another interesting conversation, 982 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,520 I suppose. 983 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,720 Not necessarily a conversation we wanted to have, at all, really. 984 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,040 But I guess that's the difference 985 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,920 between Chris banging these things up on Twitter 986 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,080 and dealing with local councils, arts festivals, 987 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,800 er, construction permissions, engineers, all of the other stuff. 988 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,440 It's a bit... it's a bit of a jump, to say the least. 989 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,440 Now I can see the posts going in, and... 990 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,560 had time to reflect on everything, 991 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,640 to have one side, the main side that's facing people walking past, 992 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,960 to have that covered, I think adds to it, 993 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,760 a certain intrigue into it. Yeah, yeah. 994 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,560 People are going to want to know what that image is. 995 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,120 You know, it's just human nature to be curious. 996 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,920 So I think it will perhaps end up making the image... 997 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,520 seen by more people. 998 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,200 I've got a few days to get the Coventry giant postcard done, 999 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,760 so I was working on a few ideas last night, 1000 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,120 but I need this out of the way first, 1001 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,600 cos it's just all-consuming, isn't it? 1002 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,640 (# GLOCKENSPIEL PLAYING) 1003 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,200 The only censorship I've dealt with before 1004 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,720 is my own self-censorship. 1005 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,120 Yeah.Um... And that's... you know... 1006 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,800 If I feel particularly strongly about an issue, 1007 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,480 and I-- I do a really angry piece, 1008 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,000 I never sort of press "Send" immediately. 1009 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,160 I always walk away from it and just let it, um... 1010 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,160 let... you know, consider it a bit more, 1011 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,480 particularly if... 1012 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,800 if I'm using... to make... to bring the point home, 1013 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,640 if I end up resorting to using, 1014 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,720 you know, like, Hitler, or Mussolini, erm... 1015 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,280 you know, I don't use... use them lightly. 1016 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,360 OMID: I... I've never seen anything that's made me think, 1017 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,640 "Ooh, that's a bit too much." 1018 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,080 Cold War Steve is probably right on the edge 1019 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,400 of what is acceptable or not, 1020 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,320 because he always keeps it funny. 1021 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,800 I think that's the line for me, is it funny? 1022 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,840 Cos sometimes, if you just make a statement... 1023 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,120 In comedy clubs, if people just make a statement, 1024 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,080 and they raise their fists, you think, "Where's the art in that?" 1025 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,040 The art is in the funny. 1026 00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:31,040 CARL: BBC News have run with, 1027 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,800 "Cold War Steve... Bournemouth beach artwork covered up. 1028 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,440 "An artist said he was disappointed 1029 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,840 "his work will not be shown in its entirety 1030 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,600 "after objections from the council. 1031 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,240 "His latest work, a 25-metre curved windbreak 1032 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,280 "on Boscombe beach, Bournemouth, is his biggest yet. 1033 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,640 "But only one side of it will be shown." 1034 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,960 And then they've put both bits clearly up on the site. 1035 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,160 They've shown the whole-- Yeah.The site? 1036 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,080 Both sides. 1037 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,880 (LAUGHS)No stress.So the-- BBC, totally cool with it. 1038 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,800 BBC have shown both sides. 1039 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,560 "Cold War Steve said the censored part deals with 1040 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,920 "the dark underbelly of our society."It said "censored"? 1041 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,520 "The censored part", yeah. It's in there.(LAUGHS) 1042 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,680 Uh... "movements of intolerance, hatred and division, 1043 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:19,160 "issues that should never be ignored, let alone covered up." 1044 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,440 There you go. It's out. That's good. It's good. 1045 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,960 It's out, it's out there. 1046 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,600 Let's retweet that one. 1047 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,320 So, I suppose we're here to talk about, obviously, 1048 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,320 the art that's being erected on Bournemouth beach. 1049 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,200 Just wanted to get your views on why you found it necessary 1050 00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:49,080 to censor the... the piece. 1051 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,520 Yeah. This is... this is a really difficult decision for me. 1052 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,440 I had a sleepless night over it. 1053 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,840 Um, particularly because I do have a background in... 1054 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,480 in photojournalism, documentary photography. 1055 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,400 But at the end of the day, we were promised a piece that was playful, 1056 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,320 uh, in line with the artist's previous work, 1057 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:14,240 and... and the dystopian side of the image that was proposed, 1058 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,840 and we saw very late in the process, 1059 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,880 is a very hard-hitting political piece. 1060 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800 You know, it includes Nazi salutes. 1061 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,440 It... I... I just felt that it had gone over... 1062 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,680 over the boundary of what would be perceived to be acceptable 1063 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,200 in, you know, a public area like this. 1064 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,160 It's gonna be covered, is it? Have you heard about that? 1065 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,760 Well, I just read that there. It's absolutely ridiculous. 1066 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,760 I think if it was poking fun directly at the town, maybe... 1067 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,120 you could have an argument for trying to do 1068 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,480 a bit of local censorship, but even then, 1069 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,840 there's nothing on there that is outrageous. 1070 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,960 (WOMAN LAUGHS) I think it's funny! MAN: Yeah, it's funny. 1071 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,800 I think we're big enough, old enough 1072 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,240 and wise enough to make up our own minds. 1073 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,560 WOMAN: Is that Harold Shipman? MAN: Yeah, it is. 1074 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,160 It is! (LAUGHS) 1075 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,520 Oh, my goodness. It's a bit controversial, isn't it? 1076 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,640 MAN: ..him driving... Carrying Putin? (LAUGHS) 1077 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,400 I'm glad I got to see it, then, before it gets covered up. (LAUGHS) 1078 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,040 The job of art is to provoke, is to... 1079 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,320 uh... is to unsettle, it's to entertain, 1080 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,840 it's all these things at once. 1081 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,160 So it's... it's very important to have that. 1082 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,160 Thank you, that's brilliant. (LAUGHS) 1083 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,800 CARL: Chris is the artist. Oh, you're Cold War Steve? 1084 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,200 Cold War Steve, yeah. It's incredible.Oh, thank you. 1085 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,480 Thank you. Like, it's amaz-- 1086 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,960 I've just seen it on Twitter and I was like, "I've gotta dash down." 1087 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000 The fact that you've got all of the... 1088 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,960 You know, the brilliance and beauty of Bournemouth, 1089 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,680 you've got the Cherries, football fans in there.That's it, yeah. 1090 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,240 You've got... Buster Merryfield's a big part of this town. 1091 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,400 Yes! (LAUGHS) 1092 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,760 And then you've got the rise of fascism. 1093 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,640 Why would you cover it up? Because, what, it's making people talk? 1094 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,600 To me, people need to talk. This is a time to talk. 1095 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,840 Absolutely.About every single thing that's going on in the world. 1096 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,560 I'm relieved that I've got to see it up. 1097 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,840 I thought earlier today "I just want to see it for five minutes. 1098 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,280 "Let me see it up. Let me see it in all its glory." Which I've done. 1099 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,360 But then if I arrive here tomorrow morning, it's covered up, I... 1100 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,600 Yeah, that's... I don't know. It's gonna be very sad. 1101 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,400 Very sad. 1102 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,000 It's the morning after the day of the reveal. 1103 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,520 First chance to look at it and take stock, really. 1104 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,760 After a few, uh... fraught days, 1105 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,320 here we are on a peaceful morning, here in Bournemouth, 1106 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,040 looking at the positive side radiating in the sunshine. 1107 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,720 It looks great, but, um... obviously the... the other side, 1108 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,560 which is literally in shadows, 1109 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,360 is getting covered up as we speak, 1110 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,160 so that's the one disappointing thing, but... 1111 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,840 But it is brilliant to see it up. 1112 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,800 All the attention has been on the forbidden side. 1113 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,120 But this side is the positive vision of Britain, 1114 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,880 which is what I always enjoy doing, ones like this. 1115 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,400 And as always with these pieces, I do a lot of research, 1116 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,760 um... of the local area. 1117 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,840 So there's a businesswoman that gives out curries to homeless, 1118 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,480 there's, um, nurses, and Bournemouth FC mascots, 1119 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,520 uh, Bournemouth Pride flag, 1120 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,720 all mixed in with a big welcome mat. 1121 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,160 Which obviously, I think it's pretty obvious why I've put that there. 1122 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,960 And there's also a lot of people 1123 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,960 that came to this country as a refugee 1124 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,720 that have obviously gone on to benefit our country immeasurably. 1125 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,720 And then the black and white characters there 1126 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,200 are from the Kindertransport, 1127 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,800 when Britain welcomed thousands of Jewish children from Nazi Germany. 1128 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,120 Um, you know, that's the Britain that I wanted to represent here. 1129 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,800 Um, but it needs that other side to... to really spell out... 1130 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,560 um, the message that I'm trying to put across. 1131 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,000 WOMAN: Look, it's even got what's his name up there, 1132 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,360 from, um, Only Fools and Horses. 1133 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,760 Uncle. (MAN LAUGHS) 1134 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,320 WOMAN 2: That's life. WOMAN 3: Mmm. 1135 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,240 Definitely good representation of English life, you know. 1136 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,400 Even down to the old Caribbean jerk chicken in there.There's Mo. 1137 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,880 (LAUGHS) Mo Farah. 1138 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,240 Yeah. Oh, well. Carnival. It's good representation. 1139 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,840 WOMAN: We ideally would have presented the work 1140 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,440 as it was intended to be seen by the artist, 1141 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,400 so we would have shown both sides, 1142 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,600 but as a local authority run and part-funded festival, 1143 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,040 we have to find that really difficult balance 1144 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,040 between what we would ideally want to programme 1145 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,880 and the views of the elected members 1146 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,000 who represent the people who live here. 1147 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,080 So it's a... you know, it's a balance that we have to find. 1148 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,120 We're really pleased that we can show both sides of the piece 1149 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,200 on our website, so people can make up their own mind. 1150 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,840 Um... But it's certainly great that we can host it here 1151 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,280 as part of the festival, 1152 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,640 and that it is creating debate, 1153 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,920 and, you know, it's getting people talking. 1154 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,000 If you put an art installation up and black it out, 1155 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,160 what does that say about the council? 1156 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,080 Why are you doing this? This is an arts festival. 1157 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,720 It's about, don't have censorship. 1158 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,840 Your opinion is your opinion. 1159 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,960 I've been in... uh, working with culture for 30 years, 1160 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,160 and I can't recall an occasion 1161 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,520 where an artwork has been censored 1162 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,400 or covered in this way. 1163 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,040 And I think it's an extraordinary reflection 1164 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,040 of the times that we're in. 1165 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,000 that we... we've lost our tolerance 1166 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,480 to the... to the extent where... 1167 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,680 politicians will cover an artwork. 1168 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,760 As we've been going around trying to get... the work on... 1169 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,280 there have been these reactions pretty much in every location. 1170 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,280 Online, some people have said, "Well, if it's a complete artwork, 1171 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,280 "you shouldn't have put it up at all." 1172 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,400 But at least now, it's been up, 1173 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,560 it's been... shown, albeit for a short time, 1174 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,000 but... I think it's got more people talking, 1175 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,840 so I think it was the right decision just to go ahead with it. 1176 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,200 MAN: '..reports of legal action against the government 1177 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,120 'over its plans to tear up part of the Brexit withdrawal agreement 1178 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,360 'signed last year.' 1179 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,440 WOMAN: 'This draft bill is, by its very nature, 1180 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,480 'a breach of...' 1181 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,560 MAN: Will you have it finished by the end of the day? 1182 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,280 Uh... yeah. 1183 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,720 Do you ever get bored doing this? 1184 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,160 No. 1185 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,360 It's really therapeutic, I think. 1186 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,720 What would you do if you weren't doing this, then? 1187 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,400 Boozing. 1188 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,960 That's, like, my only hobby. 1189 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,000 Do you like boozing on your own? 1190 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,720 Yep. Any bar would do? 1191 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,920 No, always in the house. Cheaper. 1192 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,280 I mean, it was just, erm... self-medicating, isn't it? You know. 1193 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,600 Self-medicating from what, though? 1194 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,320 Depression, mainly. 1195 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,480 Do... do you kind of... understand why you were depressed? 1196 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,960 I guessed it was clinical depression, really. 1197 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,400 There was no... 1198 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,040 there was no trigger or anything like that. 1199 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,600 Every suicide ideation or thoughts of self-harm 1200 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,720 were fuelled by alcohol. 1201 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,200 Mm.You know? 1202 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,200 Do you still have suicide ideation? 1203 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,840 No. I... 1204 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,000 I don't, actually. Cos I used to... 1205 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,600 sort of fantasise about getting blown up 1206 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,720 on the bus on the way to work. 1207 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,920 You just end up thinking that... you know, "Is this it?"Mm. 1208 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,960 Just shit jobs, no money. 1209 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,640 And then I tried... went in the... shed, 1210 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,760 and... strung myself up with a belt. 1211 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,160 Mm. 1212 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,800 Erm... That didn't work, thankfully. 1213 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,400 Walked into the sea... There was a few... times.Mm. 1214 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,320 I look back and I just... 1215 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,880 It's... it's odd. 1216 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,080 Cos people always say, "Oh, that's selfish. You've got kids. Or..." 1217 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,360 Mm.But at that moment, you don't think straight, do you? 1218 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,000 No.You're not thinking right, you just wanna just stop... 1219 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,840 Mm. Stop everything. 1220 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,640 I always say Cold War Steve saved me.Mm. 1221 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,840 I mean, seeing these fuckers, 1222 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,200 I would have to drink to fucking... block them out.Yeah. 1223 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,400 I couldn't... I can't cope with it. 1224 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,400 This morning, we're having a day trip to Barnard Castle. 1225 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:05,120 A pilgrimage to the site of one of the biggest examples 1226 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,800 of contempt for the British public ever displayed. 1227 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,280 So, I was having some messages with Les Dennis last night, 1228 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,960 so we've arranged to meet him this afternoon at three o'clock. 1229 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,720 Look, that is... that's the scene! 1230 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,160 Ladies and gentlemen, you've arrived at Barnard Castle. 1231 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,240 I can understand why Dominic Cummings 1232 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,800 felt the need to test his eyes here. 1233 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,240 Very picturesque. 1234 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,280 (BIRDSONG) 1235 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,520 Don't think I've been to an actual location 1236 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,440 of one of my pictures before. 1237 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,560 I need to get the date. So, there's a Cummings Day, 1238 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,720 and all of Barnard Castle descend here and... and dance. 1239 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,680 # Dominic Cummings broke lockdown rules 1240 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,520 # His noble quest to test his eyes 1241 01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,440 # Dominic Cummings came to Barnard Castle 1242 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,000 # He was only doing what any good father would do # 1243 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,840 (LAUGHS) 1244 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,960 It seems fitting, really, to visit the location 1245 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,160 where the anger was completely fired. 1246 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,640 It triggered, for me, the most inspirational period, I think. 1247 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,840 You know, I was doing stuff about Brexit and the charlatans in charge. 1248 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,520 I was doing it, you know, for ages. 1249 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,840 But it was at that moment, I think, that... 1250 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,480 that... a lot of people thought, "You know what? Fuck this." 1251 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,000 MAN: 'Coronavirus restrictions in northern England 1252 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,880 'are going to include Liverpool, Warrington, 1253 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,400 'Hartlepool and Middlesbrough. 1254 01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:43,080 'It means, from Saturday, people will be limited 1255 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,720 'when it comes to socialising between different households.' 1256 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,200 BORIS JOHNSON: 'The more people follow the rules, 1257 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,840 'and reduce their social contact, 1258 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,760 'the quicker we can get Liverpool and the northeast back on...' 1259 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,800 Last time we were up in Liverpool, 1260 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,720 we were, um... that way, in Albert Dock, 1261 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,280 which is where we went and did the site visit, 1262 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,640 and then we found out that, um, 1263 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,120 permission wasn't going to be granted. 1264 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,160 We had to supply the artwork, 1265 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,240 and it went to the board of the Albert Dock, 1266 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,040 so there's obviously some sort of, like, 1267 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,520 private, commercial sort of angle to that area. 1268 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,680 Uh, and a load of people got to have a say, basically, 1269 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,440 on whether it was going to be in there or not. 1270 01:09:25,480 --> 01:09:28,840 And I think it was three out of four of the board members 1271 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,160 said it wasn't appropriate, 1272 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,520 they didn't want artwork of a political nature, erm... 1273 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,280 sat where it was gonna be. 1274 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,520 So we were once again finding ourselves without a home. 1275 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,320 So, uh, yeah, we ended up over-- back over here, which is... 1276 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,720 amazing, actually. 1277 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,040 Could not be more Liverpool if you tried. 1278 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,120 We're, you know, smack bang at the bottom of the Liver Building. 1279 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,360 Uh, River Mersey, just there. 1280 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,680 In between the two. So, yeah, we lucked out. 1281 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,280 That is amazing. 1282 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,480 I think the twin axis, if you like, 1283 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,920 of being kicked out at the last possible moment, 1284 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,040 having to find a new location, 1285 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,640 and the backdrop of the worsening COVID situation, 1286 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,960 has made it very, very challenging. 1287 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,000 So we're really lucky to be here. 1288 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,120 We're very, very grateful to the great city of Liverpool. 1289 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,000 CARL: So, yeah, up until eight o'clock last night, 1290 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,560 we didn't know quite, 100 percent, where we were gonna be in the city. 1291 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,320 Two weeks in a row, it's been a little bit hairy. 1292 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,720 You all right, guys?Hi. We're not in trouble, are we? 1293 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,280 No, no, no. Come to finish it for you.(ALL LAUGH) 1294 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,080 ADAM: Experts! 1295 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,840 Thank God, you see? We want more from the experts. 1296 01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:38,360 Even the traffic wardens are nice. Yeah! (LAUGHS) 1297 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,520 MAN: It's just talking about the current situation that we're in. 1298 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,480 It's different parts of the right wing, 1299 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,200 like, uh, Donald Trump is on there, 1300 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,920 Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage. 1301 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,200 Uh, Adolf Hitler, Dominic Cummings. Thanks, lads. 1302 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,680 See you later, mate. Have a good day.Cheers. 1303 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,560 You too, mate, have a good day. 1304 01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:01,800 CARL: Embarrassingly, we've got Les Dennis stood over there. 1305 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,200 Oh, right, OK. And we've got no artist. 1306 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,240 Oh.I mean, in fairness, Les is ten minutes early. 1307 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,680 So, um... True professional. 1308 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,640 Excited? Yes! 1309 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,160 Here's the man. 1310 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,520 Sorry, Les. (LAUGHTER) How you doing? You all right? 1311 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,000 Yeah.Nice one.Thanks for coming. Nice to meet you. 1312 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,960 Nice to meet you at last! Properly, yeah. 1313 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,720 Great work, I love it. Thank you! 1314 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,040 I got put onto your work by my, um... 1315 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,160 I don't know whether you know Connor McIntyre? 1316 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,600 He's one of the Coronation Street characters.Oh, right! (LAUGHS) 1317 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,960 You know Phelan? Yeah, yeah. 1318 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,360 And he's an artist, you know. Oh, yes? 1319 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,600 So he said, "Oh, this guy's great." And I got into your stuff, 1320 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,720 and then I rang him up and said, "I'm in one!"You're... 1321 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,360 (BOTH LAUGH) You're on a plane with Trump.A plane with Trump. 1322 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:53,680 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1323 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,680 WOMAN: All right, Les? WOMAN 2: You OK? 1324 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,560 Oh, yeah. How you doing? Take care. 1325 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,360 You've got to give me a clue, come and help me. 1326 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,080 That is Trump. 1327 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,520 He's unbelievably quiet, though. 1328 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,600 He's not saying anything. Yeah! 1329 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,120 Well, you see... Makes a change. 1330 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,240 He knows if he comes to Liverpool, people'll have a go back. 1331 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,240 Well, thanks, Les. Great. Thank you very much. 1332 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,960 Thank you very much.I really enjoyed that.That was brilliant. 1333 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,920 I'm absolutely thrilled to be part of it. 1334 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,560 I think your work is amazing. Oh, thank you. Great. 1335 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,120 SAMIRA: In an age where there's actually a lot of words out there, 1336 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,640 um... including by politicians 1337 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,560 who have their own social media feeds-- 1338 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,520 "Ask Boris", "Ask Rishi Sunak"... 1339 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,440 this response of his actually kind of cuts through that 1340 01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:45,600 in a way that, 30 years ago, 1341 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,560 Spitting Image was genuinely dynamic, 1342 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,400 because we weren't seeing people satirised that way. 1343 01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:54,640 An it strikes me that its moment was 30 years ago, 1344 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,120 and the moment now is Cold War Steve's. 1345 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:06,160 MAN: '..President Trump has tweeted, 1346 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,840 'saying that he and the First Lady 1347 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,640 'have tested positive for COVID-19. 1348 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,640 'Let's go straight to Los Angeles and our US correspondent...' 1349 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,080 Come with me. 1350 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,920 Welcome to my... supersized Trumpscape jigsaw. 1351 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,520 Couldn't be more pertinent, this particular piece of work, 1352 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,840 um, which is all about Trump's America, 1353 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,000 in the age of COVID-19. 1354 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,480 So, I mean, we'll start with the Trump section. 1355 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,160 The monstrous, grotesque man himself. 1356 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,040 And he's imbibing, uh, toilet cleaner. 1357 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,240 Here we've got our anti-maskers, 1358 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,000 with Trump fucking spewing his bile and shit everywhere. 1359 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,720 Uh, an old favourite of mine, Steve Bannon. 1360 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,360 Infiltrator of governments worldwide. 1361 01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,840 Good friends with people like Nigel Farage 1362 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,800 and Boris Johnson as well. 1363 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,840 Richard Branson. 1364 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,800 The amount of money he's got, you know, 1365 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,960 why is he seeing taxpayer bailout for... 1366 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,120 for what everyone is, you know, enduring? 1367 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,840 So he's on there with his pile of cash. 1368 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,080 Because it's a stark dystopian image, Trumpscape, 1369 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,640 I did want chinks of positivity. 1370 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,360 I made what I called the good boat. 1371 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,160 You know, just people that were saying positive things, 1372 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,360 and very much anti-Trump rhetoric from them. 1373 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,120 And then, reference to our own NHS, you know, key workers. 1374 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,480 And then, on the horizon, everything is going to be all right. 1375 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,720 Harold Bishop parps his tuba of hope. 1376 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,000 You can't quite hear it, but it's there in the distance. 1377 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,480 So, even though I did this probably four months ago, 1378 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,320 nothing's changed, so this, early days of lockdown, 1379 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,760 and here we are now, on the brink of another lockdown. 1380 01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:00,160 It has made things a bit eerie, uh... 1381 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,360 There's not... not as many people, perhaps, have come to see it. 1382 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,920 I mean, a lot of people have. But, um... 1383 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,240 I suppose it all adds to the atmosphere of the piece, doesn't it? 1384 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,120 I've noticed there you can see, um... 1385 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,280 Enoch Powell, Farage, and Hitler. 1386 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,760 I'm thinking Thatcher should be in with that lot. 1387 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,000 It just sums up what's wrong with the world, I think. 1388 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,120 All these people, these men, have got so much power, 1389 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,000 and they've abused it. 1390 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,080 That's my opinion, anyway. 1391 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,160 Erm, you know, you've got Hitler with Farage. 1392 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,960 That is so apt. 1393 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,280 Erm... There's just... 1394 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,680 The people who could change the world in so many ways, 1395 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,680 they've got wealth, you've got Bezos there, 1396 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,840 you've got Trump, you've got, er, Richard Branson. 1397 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,200 They could change the world for the good, and they're not. 1398 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,600 They're abusing their own... 1399 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,760 the money and the power that they've got. 1400 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,680 WOMAN: '..20 flood alerts in place, 1401 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,280 'the weather forecasters are warning of persistent, heavy rain 1402 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,360 'throughout the day as Storm Alex hist the country.' 1403 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,040 Storm Alex has, uh... has arrived. 1404 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,680 Um, and that's been the only... 1405 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,960 stormy feature of my time in Liverpool. 1406 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,440 I think, out of all of them so far, it's been my favourite, um... 1407 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,760 one to... to take part in and visit and be involved in. 1408 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,760 It's just been, compared to the others, 1409 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,560 such a breeze to install and to just be around.Mm. 1410 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,560 It's just been wonderful. 1411 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,600 From the beginning, I've been worried 1412 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,720 that we're gonna suddenly have to stop filming, 1413 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:35,760 because it's... 1414 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,560 It just seems it's just closing in on us. 1415 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,040 Two people said that they got the ferry, 1416 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,840 um, from New Brighton, actually, to come and see the work today. 1417 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,800 And when they boarded the ferry to come and see it, 1418 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,200 they were asked if their journey was essential, 1419 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,040 erm... and they said, "Bloody right it is. 1420 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,560 "I'm going to see Cold War Steve's jigsaw!" 1421 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,280 Uh... It... You know, a race to the line. 1422 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,640 Yeah.Get the piece in Coventry, 1423 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,440 um... before, you know, total lockdown or whatever happens. 1424 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,160 MAN: 'COVID cases are rising sharply, 1425 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,920 'and governments across Europe are ratcheting up the controls 1426 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,680 'on our everyday lives. 1427 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,440 'But some scientists from the UK and elsewhere 1428 01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:30,360 'have now signed the great...' 1429 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:31,720 (LAUGHTER) 1430 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,760 Here in the wonderful Spaghetti Junction, 1431 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,800 for the launch of the final Cold War Steve Meets the Outside World piece. 1432 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,200 So, the final artwork is a giant postcard, 1433 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,040 and in the true spirit of meeting the outside world, 1434 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,560 instead of sending a tweet which is instantly read, 1435 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:55,640 this is, a... old-school analogue... postcard 1436 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,440 that's being delivered to Coventry on a barge. 1437 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,160 Aah, and there's the barge. 1438 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,280 I actually completed the artwork a week ago, 1439 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:07,760 if not less than that. 1440 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,440 And at that time, it was when there was a lot of protest 1441 01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:15,040 against, um, masks and COVID and... 1442 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,480 you know, how COVID is just a conspiracy. 1443 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,480 So I wanted to have that on there, 1444 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,240 and also, obviously, something to do with 1445 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,480 the government's handling of the coronavirus. 1446 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,520 Where's the skipper? CARL: Where is the skipper? 1447 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,000 Good to meet you, skipper. 1448 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,320 Hello, how are you? Yeah! Ahoy. 1449 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,320 How you doing? (LAUGHS) Yeah, I'm good, thanks. 1450 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,600 Thank you so much for doing this. It's all right. It's been great. 1451 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,960 It's been a brilliant trip here. I've had a great time.(LAUGHS) 1452 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,480 To launch the vessel, we've got 1453 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,520 someone who's actually appearing in the artwork, 1454 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,600 and I've also got a couple of showbiz pals coming along, 1455 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,320 hopefully, as well. 1456 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,160 Robert Kilroy-Silk used to end every show of Kilroy with, 1457 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,480 "Take care of yourselves." 1458 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,240 That's where it's from. 1459 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:01,880 Who are you gonna address it to? 1460 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,240 The outside world, I'm gonna address it to. 1461 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,600 Aah! Here's Dominic Cummings! 1462 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,960 Carl's having to escort him, 1463 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,000 because of, uh, his terrible eyesight, of course. 1464 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,800 You all right, Dom? 1465 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,920 I christen this vessel... (LAUGHS) 1466 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,800 ..in the name of Dominic Cummings. 1467 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,360 May you have a safe journey to Coventry, 1468 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,160 as Britain will be safe! 1469 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,680 God bless. 1470 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,400 (LAUGHS) 1471 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,040 Special guest appearance by... 1472 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,680 Ant and Dec! 1473 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,000 Hi, fellas! 1474 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,080 See ya later, lads. 1475 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,720 Thanks for coming down, fellas. 1476 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840 First time ever on a barge. Yeah, me too. 1477 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,320 Me too. 1478 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,640 Last week, first time building a jigsaw. 1479 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,120 It's just full of firsts. 1480 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:03,560 Right next to the Spaghetti Junction and the M6. (SIREN WAILING) 1481 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,000 Ahoy! Hello, there! 1482 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,840 That's a great setup! 1483 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,760 It's weird, I used to walk down this canal 1484 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,720 with my eldest child in a buggy, 1485 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,120 from where we lived to Sainsbury's down there. 1486 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,160 There's probably still a few empty bottles of wine hidden. 1487 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,040 Yep. First lock action. 1488 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,080 But I tell you want. Locks are analogue, aren't they? 1489 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,880 Locks are old-school. 1490 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,000 Much like the postcard. 1491 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:53,360 MAN: Hello? 1492 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,960 First maisonette that me and Kate rented is that end one there, 1493 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,440 on the ground floor. Wow. 1494 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:01,960 When Isabel, our oldest... eldest daughter was born, 1495 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,400 that's where we took her back to. 1496 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:10,080 Never would I have thought that, in, like, 15 years' time, 1497 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,360 I would be sending a giant postcard down the canal. 1498 01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,280 That's it, go now, go now. 1499 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,280 (GRINDING) 1500 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,040 Lovely bit of work, Chris. 1501 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,120 OMID: The whole point of being a stand-up comedian, 1502 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,160 if you wanna do satire, is to say what people are thinking 1503 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,720 but would never dare say. 1504 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,480 What Cold War Steve does, 1505 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,400 he does it so economically, with one image, 1506 01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:48,040 and because people have that connection 1507 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,280 with making collages at school, 1508 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,440 you see it and you think, "Oh, my God. This is-- 1509 01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,840 "I'm used to this. It's a very familiar artform." 1510 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,640 And the messages are immediate. 1511 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,880 And the point is, anybody could do it. 1512 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,080 What Banksy does, anybody could do. 1513 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,320 But the genius is they've actually got up and done it. 1514 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:07,680 Why have you got, um... 1515 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,200 He's the one from, um, the band, what's it called? 1516 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,960 What band is it?The Stone Roses. The Stone Roses.Yes. 1517 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,400 And that's... I recognise that one. David... Icke. 1518 01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:19,800 Oh, yes. Is he still around? It's very clever. 1519 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,440 I don't know. It's brilliant.He's the artist. 1520 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:26,200 And that... Who's that guy? He's, uh... Right Said Fred.Yes! 1521 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,240 Yes!Look, she's right on it! I'm right on it. 1522 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,440 Oh, we know who that is. (LAUGHS) 1523 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:34,480 (WIND GUSTING) 1524 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,960 We were just wondering what the update was with Coventry? 1525 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,080 I understand maybe it's become a bit stricter, all of a sudden. 1526 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,120 MAN ON PHONE: 1527 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,840 Just to be clear, then, what aren't we allowed to do? 1528 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,520 In theory, what are they saying we cannot do? 1529 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,680 (ENGINE CHUGGING) 1530 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,520 MAN: I like the idea that Cold War Steve 1531 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,000 could be a socio-political commentator 1532 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,880 as well as an artist. 1533 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:38,120 Art can be the hymns that are in a church, 1534 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,760 as much as it can be the postcard on the barge 1535 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,640 from Birmingham to Coventry. 1536 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,400 Both of them are transporting messages 1537 01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:51,840 that they want the community to hear. 1538 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,240 It's really strange, this is. 1539 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,840 I've just finished a piece, big sculptural piece, 1540 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,120 uh... which is based on the Ship of Fools. 1541 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,280 Yeah? Which has... 1542 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,920 exactly the same characters in, plus Rees-Mogg. 1543 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,000 So, uh, it's very, very funny, that is. 1544 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,400 Ooh, quarantine rave! 1545 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,680 (LAUGHS) 1546 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,600 Who's the one underneath? 1547 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,800 Oh, it's Cummings! He's-- (LAUGHS) 1548 01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,680 (LAUGHING) 1549 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,880 What's happening? You know how Coventry 1550 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,240 was supposed to be really... 1551 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,840 easy and... Straightforward?Yeah. 1552 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,440 Yeah? Yeah. 1553 01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:02,800 They don't want you in the, uh... 1554 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,160 They don't want you in the Basin. 1555 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,160 They're saying that the, uh... 1556 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,320 They don't want the boat, or me, or... 1557 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,040 They don't want the artwork in the Basin.In the Basin? 1558 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,320 They don't want it displayed in the Basin. 1559 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,560 Er, if the boat goes into the Basin, 1560 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,360 the artwork has to be covered over. (LAUGHS) 1561 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,120 (GROANS) Oh, man. 1562 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,400 Yeah. 1563 01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:25,840 Come on, then. 1564 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,880 Maybe they're all fans of Right Said Fred. 1565 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,240 Hey, look at this. 1566 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,440 It's brilliant, mate. Fantastic. 1567 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:52,680 Yeah, celebrations are in order. 1568 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,400 All right, cheers, mate. Cheers, mate. 1569 01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,760 Bye. Let's hear the good news? 1570 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,880 Good news. The cultural department have done a U-turn, 1571 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,800 and have basically said, 1572 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,680 "We'd like you to take the boat into the Basin, 1573 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,600 "where people can attend and have a look at the artwork." 1574 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,520 Whooo! Yes! 1575 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,120 For the first time, I feel wanted. 1576 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,640 Welcomed. Which is nice. 1577 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,640 Cos, like I said, this isn't, you know... 1578 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,680 This isn't nasty and cynical. It's not gonna distress anybody. 1579 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,720 MAN ON PHONE: 'Hello?' CARL: Hey, Julian, how are you? 1580 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,120 'I'm good, thanks.'We've just been on a boat for the last two hours, 1581 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,520 so we haven't got a clue what's going on. 1582 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,040 Do I take it, from an announcement point of view-- 1583 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,680 obviously, we've been quite coy 1584 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,640 about the fact we're gonna be ending in Coventry this week. 1585 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,680 Are we-- Is there any change with that? 1586 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,440 You know, can we say we're gonna be there? 1587 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:15,760 Mmm. 1588 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,600 Right. 1589 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,800 OK.Fine. All right. 'Yeah.' 1590 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,240 OK.No, that's fair enough. 1591 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,520 MAN: '..number of positive cases in England has been rising 1592 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,080 'for over a month, 1593 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,120 'and the latest set of weekly data from NHS Test and Trace 1594 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,040 'shows no sign of this upward trend halting...' 1595 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,200 Cold War Steve Meets the Outside World. 1596 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,440 Takes on a bit of an Odyssey now. 1597 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,760 It's actually the first time I've come to Nuneaton 1598 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,880 since I was at art college. 1599 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,240 Nunueaton itself can be quite dispiriting. 1600 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,760 But, um... nice people. Not the art college, 1601 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,680 going to art college.No, the art college was... was good. 1602 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,280 Fun. Yep. 1603 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,560 What made you want to go to art college? 1604 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,280 It was always the one thing that I was sort of good at. 1605 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,760 You know, when kids are good at something?Yeah. 1606 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,840 Mine was art and impressions. 1607 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,280 And when you left... Did you pursue the degree? 1608 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,200 Yeah. Um... 1609 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,920 But what went wrong? 1610 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,640 I, uh... 1611 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,640 I don't... I think at that age, I wasn't... 1612 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,680 I dunno, probably not mature or focused enough, 1613 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,600 I don't think, to be honest. 1614 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,520 Just fucking... I don't know, it's a really odd time, really. 1615 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,520 Um... didn't know what I wanted to do. 1616 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,120 I just fucked around and then got hideously in debt. 1617 01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:58,680 And then it started a career of, uh... 1618 01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,040 factory work and, you know... 1619 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,200 Back to art? Horrible jobs. 1620 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,680 And it's a shame, cos my nan, who died a few years ago, 1621 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,760 she was the one who was always trying to get me to do art. 1622 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,040 She was... she'd, you know, buy me the equipment, 1623 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,760 take me to galleries and, um... 1624 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,160 Her last sort of memories of me is... 1625 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,440 sort of being a low-paid road worker... 1626 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,040 uh, with a drink problem, uh, and... 1627 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,240 like, going to her and asking her for a loan. 1628 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,360 It's a step that I was really dubious about. 1629 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,680 And you know, would my work transfer to something big? 1630 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,760 And they've looked great. Yeah.I've ab-- 1631 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,000 Yeah. Really pleased with how everything's gone, 1632 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,560 and I think that's given me a lot of confidence 1633 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,000 to say, "Yeah, I am an artist." 1634 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,040 I am... 1635 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,200 a goddamn artist. 1636 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,680 There's a-- a thing that all artists yearn for, 1637 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,200 which is an instantly recognisable style. 1638 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,400 You can immediately say, "That's Cold War Steve." 1639 01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:17,360 And it's funny, I mean, it usually makes you smile. 1640 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,000 You're not quite sure why. It's not saying... 1641 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,200 It's not rude. 1642 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,840 It's not abusive. 1643 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,160 And yet, it has a... a... 1644 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,920 a strength to it, it has a kind of resonant anger 1645 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,240 that... that you can't easily forget. 1646 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,440 Cold War Steve's images now really have a visceral power. 1647 01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:42,960 It speaks to now, and that's what makes great satire. 1648 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,480 It's not worried about the future. 1649 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:46,840 Um, and they're beautiful. 1650 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,360 I mean, you could just stare at them for hours. 1651 01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,960 It's that combination of Where's Wally? 1652 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,560 something quite childlike, 1653 01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,080 with, you know, the kind of great mediaeval artworks. 1654 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,400 I think Chris-- uh, Cold War Steve, has... 1655 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,400 has done something that's unique. 1656 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,640 And he does make me laugh. 1657 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,600 And he makes me laugh and think at the same time. 1658 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:11,680 To me, this is like a breath of artistic, political fresh air. 1659 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,120 So this is the fucking bridge? This is the bridge there. 1660 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,280 Is it that small? It looks small! (LAUGHS) 1661 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,400 That's the bridge.Yeah, we're not gonna get through there. 1662 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,120 Yeah. Bridge number one. (GROANS) 1663 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:33,480 Nice one. Hold on! 1664 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,120 Forwards... 1665 01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,880 (GROANING) 1666 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,640 Steady on. Yeah. 1667 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,280 Got loads of room to play with! 1668 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,520 What was everybody worried about? What was... Yeah! 1669 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,280 "We'll never get through! 1670 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,880 "It'll be the last thing that stops us getting to Coventry Canal!" 1671 01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,880 # We don't know any more # 1672 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,840 Good! Turned up. 1673 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,000 Hello, Coventry! 1674 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,360 It's a triumphant moment, 1675 01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,120 being able to bring this giant postcard into Coventry, 1676 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,320 but it's tinged with sadness that the journey is over, 1677 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:38,040 and I must once again recoil into my cocoon, 1678 01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,040 get back up into the loft, 1679 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,680 turn on the computer... Make sure that it's you.(LAUGHS) 1680 01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,240 The material is gonna keep flooding in, 1681 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,400 so I've gotta keep working. 1682 01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:51,440 Um, but this has been an amazing experience, 1683 01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:53,400 meeting the outside world. 1684 01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,400 But now, I must go. 1685 01:32:56,440 --> 01:33:00,960 Ladies and gentlemen, Cold War Steve is leaving the outside world. 1686 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,080 # Now the party's over 1687 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,840 # I'm so tired 1688 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,720 # Much communication 1689 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,160 # Out of nowhere 1690 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,760 # Avalon # 1691 01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,160 AccessibleCustomerService@sky.uk 130461

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