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[suspenseful music playing]
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[helicopter whirring]
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[reporter 1] He has a personal fortune
estimated at $250 million.
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He lives in a cave
atop a range of mountains in Afghanistan.
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From there, he controls a web
of financial, logistical,
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and strategic assistance
to Sunni Islamic groups
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engaged in what they consider a jihad,
or a holy war.
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ABC's John Miller recently traveled
to Afghanistan for a rare interview
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with bin Laden.
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[Miller] The bin Laden interview
was a calculated risk.
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Yes, we took chances. It was dangerous.
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Journalists put pressure on themselves.
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I have to get on the inside
with one of these people,
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not just looking at
another propaganda video.
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It was May 1998 in Islamabad.
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We were thrown onto a flight
that led to buses,
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the back of pickup trucks,
where there were no roads.
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Finally, we get to the top
of this mountain.
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Everybody points their rifles in the air
and starts shooting tracer rounds.
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There's a little boy next to me.
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He has an AK-47,
and he's firing it this far from my ear.
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And I push the gun away,
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and he brings it back,
and he finishes the magazine.
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That was Osama bin Laden's son.
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One of the fighters says,
"I have good news for you."
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"Mr. bin Laden has agreed to answer
each one of your questions,
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but we're not gonna translate
the answers."
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And I said, "Well, how am I gonna ask
follow-up questions?"
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He said,
"There won't be follow-up questions."
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We begin our interview,
and we go through the questions.
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"Did you finance plots
to blow up airplanes over Pacific routes
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filled with passengers?"
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"Assassinate the Pope in Manila?"
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[speaking Arabic]
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"Was there a plot
to kill President Clinton?"
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[speaking Arabic]
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[Miller] And I'm sitting there,
kind of nodding along with it,
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wondering, "Well, what do we have?"
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At the end of the interview,
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I went back to our fixer in the back,
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and I said, "What did he say?"
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And he said, "He said a lot."
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"We need to get the tapes,
and we need to get out."
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[tense music playing]
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[Miller] Once we got back to the hotel
and we had the main translations done,
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it was groundbreaking, it was frightening.
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[interpreter] We do not differentiate
between those dressed in military uniforms
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and civilians,
they're all targets in this fatwa.
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Holy shit. He was inserting a message.
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He wanted the interview as his platform
to publicly declare war on America.
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[interpreter] You will leave when the
bodies of American soldiers and civilians
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are sent in the wooden boxes and coffins.
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That is when you will leave.
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This is a game-changer.
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[music intensifying]
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[clicking]
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The U.S. reportedly had the chance
to capture Osama bin Laden but didn't.
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Captured al-Qaida fighters say bin Laden
was at the Battle of Tora Bora.
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The Washington Post reports he escaped
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because the army
failed to send troops after him.
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[Henry Crumpton] We had
bin Laden in our sights.
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We needed to kill bin Laden in Tora Bora,
and we didn't.
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And now we were pretty confident
bin Laden had escaped into Pakistan.
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[Tracy Walder] I was a little angry
with the administration,
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because you just let him go
from a place where we had him
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relatively contained,
and we knew where he was,
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to now basically
the Wild Wild West of Pakistan,
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which is really impossible
to find people in.
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And so...
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[laughing] A little angry, um, as well.
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[Cofer Black] Could have
ended it and moved on.
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Would have given some closure
to the survivors in New York.
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This one was the best shot we ever had,
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and, uh, I'm sorry we didn't take it.
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I thought I killed him.
I thought I killed him.
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I thought, "Well,
we're gonna have to get back at this."
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"Probably won't be me, but someone else
is gonna have to get a shot at this."
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Another Osama bin Laden propaganda video
surfaced today in the Arab world.
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[in Arabic] We are close to approximately
800 destroyed buildings and high-rises.
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[reporter 1] In this video, bin Laden
does not look like a man under attack
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or running for his life.
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[George W. Bush] He is not escaping us.
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This is a guy who, three months ago,
was in control of a country.
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Now he's in... maybe in control of a cave.
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He knows that we're on the hunt.
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And I like our position better than his.
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[reporter 1] With bin Laden still
unaccounted for, the hunt continues.
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[reporter 2] The question remains,
where is bin Laden?
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[tense music continues]
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[Cindy Storer] There was concern that,
once bin Laden and other al-Qaida members
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left Afghanistan,
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he could go anywhere.
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They could disappear across the border
into Pakistan, into Iran,
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take flight and go wherever they wanted.
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[woman] The problem is,
those possibilities are infinite.
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He'd been evading our security
for years, even before 9/11.
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We were tracking him since 1996.
So he wasn't stupid.
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He understood what he needed to do
to keep himself safe.
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So finally, we started thinking,
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"Is there another way
we can look at this?"
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The question isn't, "Where is bin Laden?"
It's, "Who might be with bin Laden?"
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[Soufan] I was an FBI agent tasked
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in investigating
al-Qaida attacks around the world
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and interrogating its members.
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The mission was not only
capturing Osama bin Laden,
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but also preventing further attacks.
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After bin Laden escaped Tora Bora,
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U.S. forces were searching for any clues
that may lead us to him.
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And in al-Qaida safe house,
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there was a tape that they found
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where bin Laden
was explaining the operation.
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And every time he's explaining 9/11,
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he points at the person
who's holding the camera,
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and he says, "Mukhtar."
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[in Arabic] In the dream, he saw Mukhtar.
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[speaking Arabic]
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"God bless Mukhtar."
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[speaking Arabic]
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[Soufan] In the same tape,
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bin Laden's son,
who was a little kid at the time,
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found a piece of a drone,
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and he starts yelling, "Mukhtar,
Mukhtar, come and look at this one."
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[child speaking Arabic]
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The guy comes with the camera,
take it, look at it.
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This tape made it clear that Mukhtar
was part of bin Laden's inner circle,
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and he could be one of the few people
who knew where bin Laden was hiding.
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So we're trying to figure out
who Mukhtar was.
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We did not know what he looked like,
because he was never shown on tape.
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We were only
working off his alias, "Mukhtar."
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[Walder] We talk about
"bin Laden, bin Laden, bin Laden,"
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but I felt that, at this point in time,
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he was stationary,
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that a lot of this work
was being delegated out to these henchmen.
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They are the ones
who are doing all of his dirty work.
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He had all the faces
of all his little lieutenants
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that were all over the place.
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Bin Laden was, of course, at the top.
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After him was his deputy, Zawahiri.
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Next in command
were a handful of lieutenants
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that were also very close to bin Laden.
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{\an8}There was Abu Zubaydah,
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{\an8}who was suspected to be
bin Laden's chief operations guy,
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{\an8}and a mysterious operative
known only as "Mukhtar."
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{\an8}- [man calls out]
- [group] Allahu Akbar!
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And so there was a lot of leads
that we were pursuing,
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and in the midst of that,
we thought another attack was coming.
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[speaking Arabic]
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- [gunfire]
- [speaking Arabic]
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When al-Qaida escaped from Afghanistan,
they didn't go into hiding.
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They continued to plot and to plan.
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[reporter] The country
remains on high alert
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after U.S. intelligence heard
what they called "suspicious chatter."
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[clicking]
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[tense music continues]
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[reporter 1]
A disturbing incident on board
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an American Airlines jet this afternoon.
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Officials say a flight attendant
discovered a passenger
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carrying a bomb on the jumbo jet.
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There is no doubt this man
intended to commit suicide
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and take the plane down.
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Enough explosives in his shoes
to trigger, quote, "a major disaster."
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[Miller] Richard Reid,
the so-called shoe-bomber,
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was al-Qaida's first effort
to rebound on another airplane
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with another terrible attack.
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Could you imagine if U.S. airliners
fell out of the sky?
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[reporter 2] America is on guard
tonight in a whole new way.
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[Storer] If you're talking
about a major corporation,
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and one office gets wiped out
in an earthquake,
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does that mean
the organization doesn't work anymore?
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Does it mean they don't move
their headquarters elsewhere?
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[bleeping]
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They had bases all over the world,
and these plots were already in motion.
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[Soufan] We felt like
we were at a dead end.
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{\an8}But then we got a lead on Abu Zubaydah.
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[John McLaughlin] Abu Zubaydah was someone
who was in charge of logistics,
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recruiting, planning operations.
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[Walder] I view Abu Zubaydah
as bin Laden's right-hand man.
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His operations guy.
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Through a series
of intelligence breakthroughs,
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we started to develop a pattern of travel
for Abu Zubaydah in Pakistan.
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We were able to narrow his travel down to,
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as I recall, about 17 locations.
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And so, we made an unprecedented decision.
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We decided we would try
and go after 17 locations at once.
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[clicking]
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[men shouting in Arabic]
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[McLaughlin] When the raid occurred,
he escaped,
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and was jumping from roof to roof,
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and was wounded quite severely.
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[man shouting in Arabic]
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[Soufan] He was taken to a hospital,
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and my partner and I were called in
to interrogate him.
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Abu Zubaydah was badly injured.
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One of the medic came over, and he said,
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"If you wanna talk to him, you better
talk tonight 'cause he's septic."
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"He's probably... he's dead in the morning."
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- [monitor bleeping]
- [siren wailing]
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[steady bleep]
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I told him, "Death is not an option.
Do anything you can to keep him alive."
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[high-pitched, steady bleep]
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[rhythmic bleeping]
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In the hospital,
we continued to keep the interview going.
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Everybody was shocked
that he was cooperating.
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And he named an al-Qaida operative
who was planning an attack.
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I said, "Oh. If I showed you a picture
of that guy, can you tell me if it's him?"
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He said, "Sure."
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My partner had a Sony device.
It looks like the Palm Pilot.
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And on this device, he had photos
of all the most wanted terrorists.
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And he went down there, like,
you know, hitting the stylus.
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Passed it.
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So I said, "Is this the guy?"
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And he said, "No."
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What I did not realize was that my partner
had zoomed in on the wrong photo.
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So I said, "Oh, sorry."
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I said, "Hey, Steve, you gave me
the wrong photo, dude."
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He said, "By the way,
who the hell is he? Tell me."
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He said, "This is Mukhtar."
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So I looked at the picture.
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Now, I'm very anxious.
I wanna see who the hell this Mukhtar is.
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And it's a picture
of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed,
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also known as KSM.
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He was a terrorist
we had been tracking for years.
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I had no idea that KSM
was a member of al-Qaida.
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I was totally shocked.
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{\an8}But that was nothing
compared to what happened next.
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I said to Abu Zubaydah, "Since we're
on this, why don't we talk about him?"
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He said,
"Yeah, he's the one who did 9/11."
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A light bulb connected
all the things in my head together.
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KSM had been
bin Laden's accomplice all along.
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He was the architect,
the visionary, the mastermind of 9/11.
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[Gina Bennett] Once Abu Zubaydah
revealed KSM's involvement in 9/11,
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we realized KSM had been obsessed
with the World Trade Center for years.
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[clicking]
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[ominous music playing]
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[explosion echoes]
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[Storer] In 1993, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
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pulled off this attack
on the World Trade Center in New York.
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He works with a local cell.
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They get the van,
they set up the explosives,
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and then they put a bomb
under the World Trade Center.
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He thought the structure would move enough
to shake and even topple.
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He wanted it to fall down.
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He said later
he wanted to kill 100,000 people.
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If they just had
a little bit more explosives
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and moved the truck
one inch to the right or left,
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they might've toppled the building.
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It was that close.
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Khalid Shaikh Mohammed just never rested
until he could bring those towers down.
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[Miller] After the 1993 bombing
of the World Trade Center,
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{\an8}Khalid Shaikh Mohammed,
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he had a bag full of plots and ideas,
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but he didn't have the money
to make it happen.
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He finds his way to Afghanistan
and into al-Qaida,
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and he finds his way back
to Osama bin Laden,
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and he pitches this idea of,
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"We'll target the World Trade Center,
to take care of that,
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because we tried it before
and it's still standing."
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But now the plan kept getting bigger.
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"We'll target the Capitol.
We'll target the Pentagon."
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"We will set America back on its heels
like no one has ever done."
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If there was a keystone individual
in this whole plot,
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it was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
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Bin Laden was the inspiration
and the charismatic leader,
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but Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
was the designer, the architect.
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[Soufan] After 9/11, he went into hiding.
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Through a series
of classified spy operations,
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we learned that he was
in Rawalpindi in Pakistan.
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That activated our operation to capture
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
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[clicking]
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[horns honking]
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[reporter 1] CIA and Pakistani agents
hit the two-story villa hard,
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bashing in doors
and sweeping up anything of interest.
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Family members said
everyone was asleep when they came.
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Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
was caught in his underwear.
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It was his birthday.
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[reporter 2] Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
is in American hands tonight.
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[reporter 3] Al-Qaida's top planner
is now out of action.
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[Morell] Bin Laden and KSM were close.
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When we caught KSM,
we thought it might take us to bin Laden.
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It was a very significant capture.
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The most significant to date.
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[Miller] This is the first time
the CIA had a serious lead on bin Laden.
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And expectations were big.
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[McLaughlin] The capture of Khalid
Shaikh Mohammed was very important,
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because it disrupted
things he was planning,
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and we learned from him about operations
that were plans in process.
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What we learned
from all the intelligence that we gathered
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was that bin Laden was
micromanaging the organization.
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He was approving assignments.
He was deeply involved in attack planning.
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He was very much
the active head of al-Qaida.
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And their capabilities were rebounding.
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I was concerned about additional attacks.
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[clicking]
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[crowd clamoring]
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[reporter 1] A van full of explosives
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detonated during Sabbath prayers
this morning.
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A group that says it's tied
to al-Qaida claimed responsibility.
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It felt like a ticking time bomb situation
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'cause homeland
was absolutely on their list
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of places they wanted to attack.
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[clicking]
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[Walder] I was sitting at my desk
in headquarters,
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and I just heard, "Fuck you!"
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They blew up a train in Spain.
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[Bush] These are nothing
but cold-blooded killers. They...
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They do not value life
the way we value life
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in the civilized world.
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Bin Laden basically franchised himself.
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You start to have these al-Qaida groups
happening everywhere.
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There was only one al-Qaida on 9/11.
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All of a sudden,
you have all of these groups.
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[Walder] Like, "When's something
gonna happen next?"
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"When's the next attack?
When's the next attack?"
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[clicking]
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[Morell] I was in London in a meeting,
and somebody walked into the room.
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"Multiple attacks in London.
Dozens killed."
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[reporter 1] A series of bombs exploded
in the London mass transit system
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during the morning rush hour,
wounding more than 700.
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[Miller] Bin Laden was creating this fear.
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"You should be afraid
on your trains, on your buses,
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in your streets, at your hotels."
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[Storer] There was attack after attack,
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and we knew that there could be
another attack at any time, anywhere.
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[Bennett] He wasn't stopping
or slowing down.
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We had to find bin Laden.
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He was this cult of personality.
He was the key to everything.
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[Morell] KSM provided us information
about al-Qaida as an organization.
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But there was one thing
that he wouldn't talk about.
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KSM was protecting bin Laden
as fully as he could.
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[clicking]
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After 9/11, one of the things
that happened pretty early
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was discussion about doing what
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came to be called
"enhanced interrogation."
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The U.S. government
built a detention center
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in our Guantanamo Bay military facility
on the island of Cuba.
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They did that to interrogate prisoners
outside the civilian legal system.
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Now, why wouldn't you interrogate them
on U.S. soil?
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Well, because you wanna do some stuff
that wouldn't be allowed.
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These were not soldiers. These were
the hardened top leaders of al-Qaida.
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When you had them in your possession
and they refused to offer any information,
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the thought was
that some coercive measures
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might, uh... help unlock
some of that information.
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[door lock buzzes]
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[Storer] The emotional atmosphere
in the office was revenge.
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These people deserve whatever they get.
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The gloves are off.
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No holds barred.
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[Soufan] Enhanced interrogation techniques
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incorporate physical and psychological
pressure on the detainee.
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These techniques include slapping,
insults, stress positions,
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and sleep deprivation.
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[McLaughlin] About 100 hours
of sleep deprivation
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was a normal part
of interrogation techniques.
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[loud guitar music blaring]
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[Soufan] When a detainee was
not cooperating,
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other enhanced interrogation techniques
were introduced
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to decrease their resistance.
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These include death threats,
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cramped confinement,
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and the infamous waterboarding,
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where the detainee experiences drowning
and imminent death.
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This is apeshit.
This has... this has gone crazy.
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We can't do this,
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as... as the U.S.
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[Storer] Torturing someone
to get a piece of the puzzle
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in order to stop attacks down the road?
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No.
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No. And I know as an analyst
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that there's plenty of other sources
of information and ways to do that.
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I went to my management and I said,
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"I'm not gonna have anything
to do with that,
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because I think
that this is morally wrong."
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[Soufan] It's an issue between people
who wanted to do the right thing,
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people in the field
who understand the field,
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and people in Washington
who wanna be warriors behind their desks,
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and the only fear they have
in the war on terrorism is a paper cut.
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KSM, by the time he was arrested,
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he was in charge
of all global operations for al-Qaida.
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He knew exactly where bin Laden was.
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How many cells did we take down
because of KSM? Zero.
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He didn't give where bin Laden was.
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So sleep deprivation, waterboarding.
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For what?
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To feel that we're tough?
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Being tough is being successful.
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Being tough is winning your war.
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Being tough is not breaking shit
and being like in a... bull in a china shop.
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That's not being tough.
That's being stupid.
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Unfortunately, what was going on
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with the way we were executing
the war on terror,
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I just decided
to get the hell out of the way.
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I could not follow.
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That's why I left.
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[tense music playing]
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This was a difficult decision
for anyone to have to make.
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On the one hand,
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it's not good to, you know, inflict
coercion on other human beings.
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On the other hand, it's unethical.
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If you don't get this information,
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then you have the blood of hundreds,
thousands of Americans on your hands.
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- [crowd whistling and applauding]
- [band playing]
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You're torn between two things that are
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right at some level, but in contradiction.
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And, uh...
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most people who were at the CIA
at this time, their attitude is,
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"We hope no one else
has to make such decisions in the future."
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[clicking]
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[Anderson Cooper] Five years since 9/11,
and Osama bin Laden is still wanted.
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Officials say they're making the country
safer from an attack, but are they?
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Bin Laden was like a unicorn.
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A lot of people were claiming
to know where bin Laden was
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because the reward for justice
on bin Laden was $25 million.
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And we were left with
a lot of really bad sources
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coming in and telling us
where he might be,
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and we were running
down rabbit holes every time.
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"Bin Laden is sick. Bin Laden is dead.
Bin Laden is on dialysis."
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All of that
was in the intelligence stream,
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but that's because they were
putting out enormous resources,
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and nothing was close to panning out.
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I had been following
these fragments of dots,
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these clues that shift and disappear,
for so long,
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and we haven't found him.
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Though we never stopped looking
for bin Laden, the hunt basically stalled.
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[Morell] It was a complicated situation.
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There were plots against New York,
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including plots against
the New York subway.
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A plot to fly ten to 15 airliners,
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blowing them up
over the continental United States.
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[Miller] Bin Laden was in search of,
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"What's my next 9/11?
What will exceed 9/11?"
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[clicking]
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[Morell] There was reporting
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about al-Qaida's interest
in weapons of mass destruction,
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most importantly in its interest
in acquiring nuclear weapons.
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[Walder] He was looking
not just at radioactive material,
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but then also crude toxins and poisons.
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So, anthrax.
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[McLaughlin] We knew that bin Laden
had met with nuclear scientists
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in Pakistan,
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and when they said to him,
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"Look, the long pole in the tent
is obtaining
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the nuclear explosive material,
enriched uranium and such,"
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he had said to them,
"How do you know we don't have it?"
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[man] It was a high priority
for the al-Qaida leadership
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{\an8}that it was being driven
by bin Laden personally,
448
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{\an8}and that there were real people
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{\an8}and real efforts around the world
associated with it.
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They needed something
that was bigger and better than 9/11.
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You can't repeat yourself
as a terrorist group.
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You always have to move to the next level.
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So the vision was what he described
as the American Hiroshima...
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where this bomb crowned their efforts
to defeat the United States.
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[clicking]
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[radio static crackling]
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[in Arabic] People of America,
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we'll continue to escalate
the fighting and killing against you.
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That's our duty,
and our brothers are doing it.
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[reporter 1] "I'm alive and I'm well."
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That's the main message of a new videotape
from Osama bin Laden,
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the first in nearly three years.
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[reporter 2] A radical Islamic website
says a new video is coming from him,
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timed to coincide with next week's
anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
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[reporter 3] If it turns out to be real,
that he's still alive
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and secure enough to be making videos...
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[Bennett] It had been
six years since 9/11,
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and we had no leads, nothing.
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Every 9/11 anniversary,
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the only thing you could think about
is that bin Laden is still out there.
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That was... just the knife in your back.
472
00:28:31,647 --> 00:28:33,189
[Storer] We just wanted to stop it,
473
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:36,609
and it was so frustrating
that we couldn't.
474
00:28:36,610 --> 00:28:38,486
It became obsessive.
475
00:28:38,487 --> 00:28:41,449
People were working just all the time,
476
00:28:42,074 --> 00:28:43,950
and yet we were constantly insulted.
477
00:28:43,951 --> 00:28:47,495
We have an intelligence network
that is so dumb,
478
00:28:47,496 --> 00:28:49,539
they could throw themselves
at the ground and miss.
479
00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:52,834
[man] There's been
a complete intelligence failure here.
480
00:28:52,835 --> 00:28:54,878
[Storer] The media was saying
we had failed,
481
00:28:54,879 --> 00:28:57,172
and so other people had
to be brought in to run the center
482
00:28:57,173 --> 00:28:58,923
because we were a bunch of failures.
483
00:28:58,924 --> 00:29:01,801
The intelligence failures
that may have led
484
00:29:01,802 --> 00:29:03,386
to the September 11th attacks...
485
00:29:03,387 --> 00:29:07,182
The commission itself is going to have to
sort through all of this finger-pointing
486
00:29:07,183 --> 00:29:08,850
and come up with a report in July
487
00:29:08,851 --> 00:29:11,145
saying who should've known what and when.
488
00:29:11,729 --> 00:29:14,690
[clicking]
489
00:29:16,859 --> 00:29:19,278
[Storer] People asking questions
as if we were guilty,
490
00:29:19,779 --> 00:29:22,531
and of course we all felt guilty,
so that didn't help.
491
00:29:23,282 --> 00:29:25,868
Whether there was anything else
you could've done or not,
492
00:29:26,368 --> 00:29:28,912
you still...
you question yourself all the time.
493
00:29:28,913 --> 00:29:31,290
"Is there anything
I could've done differently?"
494
00:29:31,874 --> 00:29:34,083
[reporter 1] The commission
investigating the 9/11 attacks
495
00:29:34,084 --> 00:29:36,085
came out firing this morning.
496
00:29:36,086 --> 00:29:38,880
[reporter 2] Specifically,
the CIA's handling of the al-Qaida threat
497
00:29:38,881 --> 00:29:40,716
before September 11.
498
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:45,595
{\an8}[Bennett] The only time I got angry
was really after the 9/11 Commission,
499
00:29:45,596 --> 00:29:47,348
when they blamed us.
500
00:29:47,932 --> 00:29:49,140
That made me angry.
501
00:29:49,141 --> 00:29:53,186
[reporter 2] The Commission says neither
president had adequate intelligence.
502
00:29:53,187 --> 00:29:56,189
How in God's name
are you supposed to imagine a threat
503
00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:58,108
if the facts are being withheld from you?
504
00:30:00,027 --> 00:30:01,986
[Bennett] Seeing
The 9/11 Commission Report
505
00:30:01,987 --> 00:30:04,490
go on The New York Times Best Seller list,
506
00:30:04,990 --> 00:30:09,911
knowing that it singled out
the handful of us
507
00:30:09,912 --> 00:30:15,167
who had been trying,
you know, to the best of our ability,
508
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,171
to have them accuse us
of failing to imagine the attack,
509
00:30:20,172 --> 00:30:21,966
failing to connect the dots,
510
00:30:23,092 --> 00:30:26,971
it... it was so painful,
511
00:30:27,721 --> 00:30:31,308
and we couldn't...
we couldn't defend ourselves.
512
00:30:33,561 --> 00:30:36,104
[Storer] I've lived with that
for 20 years. [sniffles]
513
00:30:36,105 --> 00:30:40,483
And it's only recently that
I've realized that it just doesn't matter.
514
00:30:40,484 --> 00:30:42,777
[laughs] It doesn't matter what we did.
515
00:30:42,778 --> 00:30:45,613
Unless we had said, "Date, time, place,"
516
00:30:45,614 --> 00:30:48,659
and thwarted the attack,
we were gonna get blamed.
517
00:30:49,410 --> 00:30:50,286
And...
518
00:30:51,579 --> 00:30:55,833
[sighs] So I did... I did what I could,
and that's all you can do.
519
00:30:58,794 --> 00:31:00,670
[clicking]
520
00:31:00,671 --> 00:31:02,756
[tense music playing]
521
00:31:04,133 --> 00:31:07,343
[reporter 1] Today, President Bush hosted
the man who will be president
522
00:31:07,344 --> 00:31:09,053
in less than two and a half months.
523
00:31:09,054 --> 00:31:11,931
When Barack Obama is sworn in
on January 20th,
524
00:31:11,932 --> 00:31:13,850
he'll inherit a world of trouble.
525
00:31:13,851 --> 00:31:17,228
But today, it was one gracious couple
welcoming another
526
00:31:17,229 --> 00:31:19,523
to their new home and new life.
527
00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:23,860
[reporter 2] What is the most urgent
threat when it comes to security
528
00:31:23,861 --> 00:31:25,528
that Barack Obama has to deal with?
529
00:31:25,529 --> 00:31:28,031
[Bush] The most urgent threat
that he'll have to deal with
530
00:31:28,032 --> 00:31:30,242
is an attack on our homeland.
531
00:31:32,578 --> 00:31:34,495
And I wish I could report
that's not the case,
532
00:31:34,496 --> 00:31:35,997
but there's still an enemy out there
533
00:31:35,998 --> 00:31:38,250
that would like
to inflict damage on America.
534
00:31:40,002 --> 00:31:42,712
[man] Taking out bin Laden was about
cutting off the head of al-Qaida,
535
00:31:42,713 --> 00:31:46,925
but it was also about the closest thing
that the United States was gonna get
536
00:31:46,926 --> 00:31:48,969
to a victory in... in the war on terror.
537
00:31:53,432 --> 00:31:55,058
{\an8}So when Obama comes into office,
538
00:31:55,059 --> 00:31:58,646
he gives a directive
to double down on the bin Laden search.
539
00:31:59,396 --> 00:32:02,607
What was prepared was a kind
of presidential directive to the CIA
540
00:32:02,608 --> 00:32:04,985
that's like,
"I wanna do more to get bin Laden."
541
00:32:06,779 --> 00:32:10,198
"I'm sure you're working on this,
but move this up the priority chain,
542
00:32:10,199 --> 00:32:12,408
put more people on it,
put more resources on it,
543
00:32:12,409 --> 00:32:16,038
and importantly,
I want regular updates about this."
544
00:32:18,457 --> 00:32:20,792
[man] There was always
a challenge included
545
00:32:20,793 --> 00:32:23,712
in every job that I took in Washington.
546
00:32:27,091 --> 00:32:30,927
It was soon after I was sworn in
that I went to the Oval Office
547
00:32:30,928 --> 00:32:32,262
to meet with the president,
548
00:32:32,846 --> 00:32:37,935
and he said my primary task
as the director of the CIA
549
00:32:38,435 --> 00:32:41,187
was to go after and get bin Laden.
550
00:32:41,188 --> 00:32:42,855
[heartbeat pounding]
551
00:32:42,856 --> 00:32:47,443
[Panetta] My first step was
to call the key people from the CIA
552
00:32:47,444 --> 00:32:50,822
and basically say,
"Where are we? What's going on?"
553
00:32:50,823 --> 00:32:52,408
[ominous music playing]
554
00:32:55,411 --> 00:32:59,790
[Morell] Under President Obama,
I became deputy director of the CIA.
555
00:33:00,416 --> 00:33:02,750
The CIA never stopped looking.
556
00:33:02,751 --> 00:33:04,419
We followed every lead.
557
00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:07,380
We were trying desperately
to figure out where bin Laden was,
558
00:33:07,381 --> 00:33:09,091
and not getting closer.
559
00:33:09,675 --> 00:33:14,887
I decided to appoint a task force
with no other responsibility
560
00:33:14,888 --> 00:33:16,849
but to go after bin Laden.
561
00:33:19,101 --> 00:33:22,395
Leon Panetta put an immense amount
of pressure on you to show progress.
562
00:33:22,396 --> 00:33:24,480
[Panetta] When you're
an intelligence agency,
563
00:33:24,481 --> 00:33:29,360
what you've gotta do is develop
as many possibilities as you can
564
00:33:29,361 --> 00:33:30,446
that can open a door.
565
00:33:31,238 --> 00:33:34,449
And one of those possibilities came to us
566
00:33:34,450 --> 00:33:37,745
from one of our allied countries
in the Middle East.
567
00:33:38,912 --> 00:33:40,831
[clicking]
568
00:33:46,003 --> 00:33:49,839
[Morell] In 2009,
the Jordanians had in their custody
569
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,592
a physician named al-Balawi.
570
00:33:52,176 --> 00:33:57,388
He was arrested because he was espousing
the views of a jihadist,
571
00:33:57,389 --> 00:33:58,848
the views of al-Qaida.
572
00:33:58,849 --> 00:34:04,146
[Bennett] He had been writing online
in support of al-Qaida's extremism.
573
00:34:04,688 --> 00:34:07,691
He saw himself as a violent member
of the mujahideen,
574
00:34:08,275 --> 00:34:11,403
someone who was going to fight
on behalf of his faith.
575
00:34:12,404 --> 00:34:15,364
[Morell] The Jordanians
came to us and said,
576
00:34:15,365 --> 00:34:21,079
"We think we would be able to turn him
and use him as an asset against al-Qaida."
577
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,289
"Are you interested?"
578
00:34:23,207 --> 00:34:24,540
We said, "Absolutely."
579
00:34:24,541 --> 00:34:25,750
[dramatic music playing]
580
00:34:25,751 --> 00:34:29,797
[Morell] His incentive at this point
is not being in jail,
581
00:34:30,297 --> 00:34:34,217
and if he delivers
significant al-Qaida leaders,
582
00:34:34,218 --> 00:34:35,803
significant reward.
583
00:34:37,846 --> 00:34:42,266
That resulted in the Jordanians
sending him to Afghanistan
584
00:34:42,267 --> 00:34:43,769
to penetrate al-Qaida.
585
00:34:45,729 --> 00:34:49,524
The agency has been called risk-averse
so many times in the past.
586
00:34:49,525 --> 00:34:51,902
There's nothing risk-averse about it.
587
00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:54,321
This was a big gamble.
588
00:34:55,697 --> 00:34:57,366
And then...
589
00:34:59,326 --> 00:35:02,329
it was as if he just disappeared
into thin air.
590
00:35:03,789 --> 00:35:04,957
Pfft!
591
00:35:05,666 --> 00:35:07,835
Into the fog, into the ether.
592
00:35:08,585 --> 00:35:09,752
He went dark.
593
00:35:09,753 --> 00:35:11,671
[tense music playing]
594
00:35:11,672 --> 00:35:13,382
[Miller] Did he just run away?
595
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:17,928
Did they figure out he was a spy
and kill him?
596
00:35:18,846 --> 00:35:19,930
What happened?
597
00:35:22,349 --> 00:35:24,059
A long time goes by.
598
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,436
First weeks, then longer.
599
00:35:27,187 --> 00:35:29,523
[clicking]
600
00:35:32,651 --> 00:35:34,444
[Morell] It took several months.
601
00:35:36,446 --> 00:35:41,451
And then he reported back
that he is with al-Qaida's number two...
602
00:35:43,495 --> 00:35:44,662
Zawahiri.
603
00:35:44,663 --> 00:35:49,041
They actually got film of him
being close to Zawahiri. It was crazy.
604
00:35:49,042 --> 00:35:51,752
[Miller] This is
a potentially very big deal.
605
00:35:51,753 --> 00:35:55,340
[Morell] This would be an opportunity
to get at the number two.
606
00:35:56,675 --> 00:35:58,760
Maybe even more than the number two.
607
00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:02,264
Bin Laden.
608
00:36:03,056 --> 00:36:04,933
For us, that's a huge opportunity.
609
00:36:05,976 --> 00:36:11,981
But before we would even think about
operationalizing this opportunity,
610
00:36:11,982 --> 00:36:13,317
we wanted to meet him.
611
00:36:14,276 --> 00:36:16,737
We wanted to make sure
that he was the real deal.
612
00:36:18,405 --> 00:36:23,117
We set up a meeting in Afghanistan
at a place called Khost,
613
00:36:23,118 --> 00:36:25,913
which is near the border with Pakistan.
614
00:36:30,834 --> 00:36:34,129
[clicking]
615
00:36:36,423 --> 00:36:39,843
[Walder] When you develop a source
in terrorist groups,
616
00:36:40,344 --> 00:36:41,929
that's really hard to do.
617
00:36:43,222 --> 00:36:46,475
You're basically asking someone
to flip on, like, their own blood.
618
00:36:46,975 --> 00:36:48,602
It's near impossible.
619
00:36:52,356 --> 00:36:56,944
[Morell] You can imagine
the thinking of the officers in Khost.
620
00:36:58,403 --> 00:37:00,614
A guy who might have access
621
00:37:01,323 --> 00:37:04,159
to the number two in al-Qaida
is coming to see you.
622
00:37:04,868 --> 00:37:06,744
[radio chatter]
623
00:37:06,745 --> 00:37:10,206
[Morell] Do you wanna put him
through multiple security screenings,
624
00:37:10,207 --> 00:37:11,416
maybe turn him off?
625
00:37:11,917 --> 00:37:13,960
Or do you wanna welcome him
with open arms,
626
00:37:13,961 --> 00:37:15,962
make him feel like one of us?
627
00:37:15,963 --> 00:37:18,048
[radio chatter continues]
628
00:37:19,841 --> 00:37:23,220
[Bennett] Khost became
such a big operation.
629
00:37:24,638 --> 00:37:28,392
And we were getting so close
630
00:37:29,059 --> 00:37:31,395
to a real lead on where bin Laden was.
631
00:37:34,439 --> 00:37:37,859
When he came into the base,
cars can't just drive up.
632
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,612
They're slowed down through checkpoints.
633
00:37:41,738 --> 00:37:44,907
[Miller] You go all the way
to the end of the base,
634
00:37:44,908 --> 00:37:47,535
and there is a small compound
635
00:37:47,536 --> 00:37:52,457
where the core CIA people
are gonna meet with him privately.
636
00:37:53,709 --> 00:37:56,627
[Panetta] He finally got
to where our CIA officers were,
637
00:37:56,628 --> 00:37:57,712
and they all came out
638
00:37:57,713 --> 00:38:00,924
because they'd been waiting
for this meeting, to greet him.
639
00:38:02,634 --> 00:38:05,052
[Miller] He's considered
potentially the golden goose.
640
00:38:05,053 --> 00:38:08,849
This guy could bring us to where
we've never been able to go before.
641
00:38:10,058 --> 00:38:12,185
So they came out to the car.
642
00:38:13,812 --> 00:38:15,272
This was something big.
643
00:38:17,691 --> 00:38:18,984
This was a turning point.
644
00:38:21,028 --> 00:38:24,489
[clicking]
645
00:38:29,161 --> 00:38:32,205
[man] I am Dr. Abu Dujana al-Khorasani,
Jordanian.
646
00:38:32,789 --> 00:38:35,541
The Jordanian
and the American intelligence services
647
00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:39,086
offered me millions of dollars
to work with them
648
00:38:39,087 --> 00:38:41,630
and spy on mujahideen here.
649
00:38:41,631 --> 00:38:43,090
But Alhamdulillah,
650
00:38:43,091 --> 00:38:44,800
I came to the mujahideen,
651
00:38:44,801 --> 00:38:46,844
and I told them everything,
652
00:38:46,845 --> 00:38:50,140
and we arranged together this attack.
653
00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:54,853
We'll get you, CIA team.
654
00:38:55,771 --> 00:38:59,733
Inshallah, we'll come to you
from unexpected ways.
655
00:39:00,233 --> 00:39:02,235
[tense music playing]
656
00:39:04,404 --> 00:39:05,655
This is for you.
657
00:39:06,490 --> 00:39:07,616
It's not watch.
658
00:39:08,116 --> 00:39:09,201
It's detonator.
659
00:39:09,701 --> 00:39:11,536
You will be sent to the hell.
660
00:39:12,037 --> 00:39:14,039
[music intensifying]
661
00:39:22,589 --> 00:39:24,591
[dramatic theme music playing]
662
00:39:24,591 --> 00:39:29,591
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