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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:43,544 --> 00:00:44,962 Come on, we get this together. 2 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:47,589 The power of three will set us free. 3 00:00:47,673 --> 00:00:49,925 The power of three will set us free. 4 00:00:50,08 --> 00:00:52,10 The power of three will set us free. 5 00:00:52,135 --> 00:00:54,513 The power of three will set us free. 6 00:00:54,638 --> 00:00:59,810 | met Aaron spelling 1982 when | first went to work on "Matt Houston”. 7 00:01:00,18 --> 00:01:04,940 | was brought in as a story editor and quickly was directing the show, 8 00:01:05,65 --> 00:01:07,526 and producing the show, and ended up running the show by the third season. 9 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:10,487 And | was in awe of Aaron when | first met him. 10 00:01:10,529 --> 00:01:11,822 It was Aaron and Duke Vincent. 11 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:16,159 Duke Vincent was his partner for 27 years, and Duke was the one 12 00:01:16,201 --> 00:01:19,371 who had hands, daily stuff on "Matt Houston". 13 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:21,873 So he was the one | was involved with all the time, 14 00:01:21,957 --> 00:01:24,01 but Aaron was always involved in the casting. 15 00:01:24,418 --> 00:01:26,962 In fact, the first season, "Matt Houston" was a guest star show. 16 00:01:27,212 --> 00:01:29,47 You would have it was a murder mystery, and then 17 00:01:29,214 --> 00:01:30,924 all these Hollywood stars were the suspects, 18 00:01:31,216 --> 00:01:33,594 much like "Burke's Law". He did "Burke's Law" in the sixties, 19 00:01:33,677 --> 00:01:35,304 and that was his idea for "Burke's Law". 20 00:01:36,555 --> 00:01:37,973 And Aaron and | got along right away. 21 00:01:38,56 --> 00:01:40,809 And when Aaron likes somebody, he keeps hiring you. 22 00:01:40,851 --> 00:01:42,728 | ended up working on and off with Aaron, 23 00:01:42,811 --> 00:01:44,813 like | did "Star Trek" for 26 years, 24 00:01:45,188 --> 00:01:48,942 right up until 2006 when "Charmed" went off the air. 25 00:01:49,192 --> 00:01:52,446 | had done a bunch of TV series for him as a writer, producer, 26 00:01:52,487 --> 00:01:54,448 director, depending on, movies of the week. 27 00:01:54,573 --> 00:01:57,743 And | would come and go, but whenever he had something 28 00:01:57,784 --> 00:02:00,370 that he needed me for, and | was available, | would be coming back. 29 00:02:00,579 --> 00:02:04,207 And that's why they hired me to be executive vice president in 1996, 30 00:02:04,291 --> 00:02:05,500 because they wanted to make sure | was there 31 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:06,835 and always available for them. 32 00:02:07,169 --> 00:02:08,629 And it was a great relationship. 33 00:02:08,754 --> 00:02:12,341 | mean, he was around producing television from the mid sixties, 34 00:02:12,591 --> 00:02:14,509 and | got him the first time in '82. So he'd been doing 35 00:02:14,593 --> 00:02:16,637 it for 20 years by the time | started to work for him, 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,347 and then we did another 25 years. 37 00:02:18,930 --> 00:02:20,307 And the shows that he did, and his instincts 38 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:21,433 for what the audience was looking for 39 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:25,62 was quite remarkable. And it was while | was at Spelling 40 00:02:25,103 --> 00:02:27,105 that we developed, and | started doing "Charmed". 41 00:02:27,189 --> 00:02:29,232 | had six years as executive vice president, 42 00:02:29,608 --> 00:02:31,860 and then | moved from that job where | was supervising "Charmed", among all 43 00:02:31,902 --> 00:02:35,30 our other shows, over to "Charmed" as producer director. 44 00:02:44,164 --> 00:02:45,791 Book of Shadows. 45 00:02:47,876 --> 00:02:51,672 Connie Burge created it. Connie had created "Savannah" for us, 46 00:02:51,672 --> 00:02:55,258 which was a big hit for a short period of time 47 00:02:55,342 --> 00:02:58,595 on the WB, when the WB was first starting. 48 00:02:59,262 --> 00:03:03,308 And she came in with this idea about a show with witches, sisters, 49 00:03:03,558 --> 00:03:07,396 and we developed it, and she wrote the pilot script. 50 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,106 And here's a fantastic story about "Charmed". 51 00:03:09,898 --> 00:03:14,653 We originally sold the show, and went to pilot, 52 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:18,865 it was Shannen Doherty, Holly Marie Combs, 53 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:21,118 who was Shannen's best friend at the time, and still is, 54 00:03:21,618 --> 00:03:25,580 and then Lori Rom. Alyssa Milano, wasn't in it. 55 00:03:25,831 --> 00:03:28,208 Lori Rom was this third star of the show. 56 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:31,962 So Shannen was the only real star. We shoot the pilot. 57 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:33,171 The pilot is bought. 58 00:03:33,422 --> 00:03:37,50 We're two weeks from starting to shoot the series, Lori Rom calls us and says, 59 00:03:37,134 --> 00:03:39,136 "| can't do the show. | just can't do it." 60 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:42,556 So two weeks from starting to shoot, we don't have a third star. 61 00:03:43,181 --> 00:03:46,143 We had just worked with Alyssa on "Melrose Place". 62 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:51,22 So Aaron calls Alyssa, she was on vacation in Hawaii, and said, 63 00:03:51,64 --> 00:03:52,399 "We have an opening on 'Charmed™ 64 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:54,276 "Can | send you the script? Will you consider it?" 65 00:03:54,359 --> 00:03:56,111 Sent her the script. She read it, she loved it. 66 00:03:56,194 --> 00:03:57,237 She said, "I'll do it." 67 00:03:57,529 --> 00:04:01,867 So suddenly we have Shannen, and Alyssa, and Holly, and the show 68 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:03,618 became a big hit immediately out of the gate. 69 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:05,954 And | don't know that it would have without Alyssa, 70 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:07,914 because she was a big name, Shannen was a big name. 71 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:10,417 You needed both of those, | think, to supercharge it. 72 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:12,878 So as it turned out, we got lucky when Lori left, 73 00:04:12,961 --> 00:04:14,212 but that's an amazing story to me. 74 00:04:14,337 --> 00:04:15,881 I've never heard of anyone ever doing that before or since. 75 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:18,967 We re-shot every scene she was in 76 00:04:19,50 --> 00:04:21,136 when we started production, because we never aired her... 77 00:04:21,219 --> 00:04:23,930 | don't even know where that film is. It's somewhere. 78 00:04:24,222 --> 00:04:25,474 But we never aired it. 79 00:04:25,974 --> 00:04:29,728 So every scene that she had been in was re-shot with Alyssa 80 00:04:29,811 --> 00:04:32,22 when we started production that season. 81 00:04:32,147 --> 00:04:33,857 Everything looks the same. 82 00:04:34,24 --> 00:04:34,858 You're right. 83 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:36,276 What if the house still needs work? 84 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:39,946 Everything feels the same, so nothing's changed, right? 85 00:04:45,577 --> 00:04:48,580 When it aired, it was a huge hit immediately. 86 00:04:48,789 --> 00:04:50,957 | think it was the highest rated pilot 87 00:04:51,41 --> 00:04:52,42 airing they'd ever had. 88 00:04:52,209 --> 00:04:55,921 And we were picked up that week, | think, or the next week. 89 00:04:56,04 --> 00:04:57,798 We were picked up instantly for the rest of the season, 90 00:04:57,881 --> 00:04:59,508 because you do 13, 91 00:04:59,549 --> 00:05:01,134 and then your picked up for the back nine. 92 00:05:01,259 --> 00:05:05,222 And we got picked up immediately. Yeah, it was a hit right away. 93 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:08,266 And it was fun to do. 94 00:05:08,975 --> 00:05:12,854 | love doing scifi, and | love doing supernatural stuff. 95 00:05:12,938 --> 00:05:16,817 And what the show really was was three sisters 96 00:05:16,942 --> 00:05:20,153 who happened to be witches. It wasn't about three witches. 97 00:05:20,445 --> 00:05:24,157 So the fact that every episode was about them, and their lives, 98 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:25,700 and how it interconnected to each other, and 99 00:05:25,784 --> 00:05:27,77 interconnected with boyfriends and stuff, 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,789 made it relatable. And that's why we got such a big fan base. 101 00:05:30,872 --> 00:05:34,501 And it's still on two or three times a day on TNT, 102 00:05:34,668 --> 00:05:35,961 and it's running on Netflix. 103 00:05:36,86 --> 00:05:38,713 | mean, the show has got a huge, huge fan base. 104 00:05:41,591 --> 00:05:42,551 Are you okay? 105 00:05:42,884 --> 00:05:45,428 No, I'm not okay. You've turned me into a witch. 106 00:05:45,554 --> 00:05:47,848 You were born one. We all were. 107 00:05:48,932 --> 00:05:51,184 And | think we better start learning to deal with that. 108 00:05:52,477 --> 00:05:56,940 When we're developing "Charmed", the movie "The Craft" came up, 109 00:05:57,65 --> 00:05:59,484 as did other movies about witches. 110 00:05:59,776 --> 00:06:02,529 And it had been out a few years before. 111 00:06:03,29 --> 00:06:05,824 It was a much darker version of what we wanted to do, 112 00:06:05,907 --> 00:06:09,35 and this was more a push about being sisters, but it was a good 113 00:06:09,119 --> 00:06:12,664 reference point in terms of a hip show about women being witches. 114 00:06:13,206 --> 00:06:15,959 When you're developing a show, you look at everything that's like it. 115 00:06:16,126 --> 00:06:18,253 And "Hocus Pocus" is one, "The Craft" was one. 116 00:06:18,461 --> 00:06:19,713 There weren't a lot. 117 00:06:19,796 --> 00:06:22,424 | mean, it was a rich area that hadn't really 118 00:06:22,465 --> 00:06:23,717 been explored on television. 119 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,760 People had tried and failed with pilots, 120 00:06:25,844 --> 00:06:31,433 but Connie hit it just right. WB, its network was, 121 00:06:32,142 --> 00:06:35,61 who they went after, their audience was young women, 122 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:37,439 young teenage girls, young girls in their 20s. 123 00:06:37,522 --> 00:06:39,274 That's exactly who "Charmed" was aimed for. 124 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:42,944 Cool parlor trick, bitch. 125 00:06:42,986 --> 00:06:45,238 Yeah, you were always the tough one, weren't you, Prue? 126 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:54,122 | think everybody was happy with Shannen as the star. 127 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:57,709 | mean, | think one star in the network's mind was going to be enough. 128 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:01,504 They never raised the idea of a bigger star. 129 00:07:01,546 --> 00:07:03,06 | mean, they never pushed for 130 00:07:03,214 --> 00:07:06,343 either Holly or for Lori's role to be a bigger star. 131 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:07,636 Our powers are growing. 132 00:07:07,636 --> 00:07:09,596 Let's put as many things against the door as we can. 133 00:07:09,721 --> 00:07:13,600 You can't keep me out, Prue. My powers are stronger than yours. 134 00:07:14,184 --> 00:07:15,60 - Okay. - You got to look out. 135 00:07:20,357 --> 00:07:22,67 Shannen was nice to almost everybody. 136 00:07:22,108 --> 00:07:26,71 She would have some script problems sometimes, and she could be difficult, 137 00:07:26,571 --> 00:07:28,198 but everybody could be sometimes. 138 00:07:29,741 --> 00:07:34,204 She always delivered performance-wise, and she was always nice to the cast. 139 00:07:38,208 --> 00:07:41,962 Yeah. | mean, she was the heart and soul of "Charmed" 140 00:07:41,962 --> 00:07:43,588 when we first started, that's for sure. 141 00:07:44,756 --> 00:07:48,426 Nothing can keep me away. 142 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:52,263 What do we do? We're trapped. 143 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:59,813 Alyssa was always sweet, always friendly to everybody. 144 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:05,360 She was a pleasure to be around, as was Holly, as was Rose. 145 00:08:05,443 --> 00:08:10,156 | mean, but Alyssa was really one of the warmest, most welcoming people. 146 00:08:10,365 --> 00:08:12,283 At one point, | remember she said to the producer, 147 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:15,120 this was year six or seven, and she said, 148 00:08:15,203 --> 00:08:16,997 "I've given you the best years of my life." 149 00:08:17,205 --> 00:08:21,835 But it's true, as an actress, that sweet spot from 25 until 32, 150 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:24,170 she was on the same show for eight years. 151 00:08:24,671 --> 00:08:29,551 So it's tough, they get paid a lot of money for that, but | mean, 152 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:33,972 frankly, what's tough about a show like that for these actresses 153 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:36,349 is you get tired of dodging fireballs. 154 00:08:36,474 --> 00:08:41,730 | mean, after four or five, six, seven, eight years of that kind of stuff, 155 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:45,25 you yearn for something more. And | get that. 156 00:08:45,191 --> 00:08:46,151 Why? 157 00:08:48,111 --> 00:08:49,821 It was the only way to get their powers. 158 00:08:50,947 --> 00:08:52,615 And now | want yours. 159 00:08:58,329 --> 00:09:02,125 Holly came into the show because when Shannen was the first person 160 00:09:02,167 --> 00:09:07,380 we brought in and cast, and she had been fired from "90210", 161 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:10,341 same company, but she was perfect for this. 162 00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:12,927 So she came in, and she sat down with Aaron and Duke, 163 00:09:13,928 --> 00:09:16,56 and said, "I learned my lesson. 164 00:09:16,139 --> 00:09:17,682 I'll be a good girl. | love the script. 165 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:21,19 And | think that the character, the perfect actress for Piper 166 00:09:21,61 --> 00:09:22,979 is my best friend, Holly Marie Combs." 167 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,815 Holly Marie had a reputation, a good one. 168 00:09:25,857 --> 00:09:28,109 | mean, she had been on David Kelley's show before that. 169 00:09:28,443 --> 00:09:32,405 And so we brought her in, and we auditioned her, and we loved her. 170 00:09:32,614 --> 00:09:34,699 So we brought her to the network, she gets cast. 171 00:09:34,991 --> 00:09:36,993 And then Lori Rom, we told you that story. 172 00:09:37,77 --> 00:09:40,163 So Holly became very popular right away. 173 00:09:40,205 --> 00:09:44,209 And in fact, and this was in the days of fan mail, we would get fan mail, 174 00:09:44,292 --> 00:09:46,336 and the mail would go either to the studio or to the network, 175 00:09:46,377 --> 00:09:47,545 and then get shipped over to us. 176 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:51,257 And Holly always got more fan mail than either Shannen or Alyssa. 177 00:09:51,508 --> 00:09:53,676 And it's because, | think, she was 178 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,345 the most relatable, she was the most 179 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:59,99 like the audience, the person, and her character 180 00:09:59,140 --> 00:10:03,269 also had a baby, and was married, and so there's a lot of things about her 181 00:10:03,311 --> 00:10:05,647 that made her more normal, but she was, 182 00:10:05,647 --> 00:10:09,234 in terms of a lot of the fans, in my opinion, the most popular of the people. 183 00:10:21,329 --> 00:10:22,413 Dear god. 184 00:10:22,789 --> 00:10:23,623 No. 185 00:10:25,416 --> 00:10:27,127 Shannen left after three seasons. 186 00:10:27,418 --> 00:10:31,589 There was tension between some of the actors on set, 187 00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:34,551 and it was time for Shannen to go off and try some other things. 188 00:10:34,717 --> 00:10:37,95 So Shannen had started directing, and wanted to explore other avenues 189 00:10:37,137 --> 00:10:39,806 for her directing, so that was one of the reasons she left. 190 00:10:39,848 --> 00:10:43,17 It was a shock to everybody, but it worked out 191 00:10:43,59 --> 00:10:44,811 because Rose did a fantastic job. 192 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:46,62 What is this thing? 193 00:10:46,104 --> 00:10:47,230 We'll explain later. 194 00:10:48,398 --> 00:10:50,942 Okay. Just say this spell out loud with us. Okay? 195 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:52,986 Spell? what are you guys, witches? 196 00:10:53,27 --> 00:10:55,29 And so are you, we hope. 197 00:10:55,530 --> 00:10:57,73 Well, we're about to find out. 198 00:10:59,576 --> 00:11:00,577 The show stayed the same. 199 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:03,663 With Rose, | think there was probably a little more humor put in, 200 00:11:03,746 --> 00:11:06,958 her character was a little funnier than Shannen's character was. 201 00:11:07,83 --> 00:11:09,252 So the show lightened up a little bit, maybe, 202 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:13,590 but solid episodes and solid writing with both casts. 203 00:11:13,631 --> 00:11:15,758 So | don't know that it was much difference. 204 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,343 | know there's a huge amount of people 205 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:18,636 who love Shannen from the show, 206 00:11:18,845 --> 00:11:20,889 and a lot of people love Rose from the show. 207 00:11:21,890 --> 00:11:23,224 So it would be fun if we could ever... 208 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:24,726 They keep talking about trying to do a union. 209 00:11:24,767 --> 00:11:26,936 It'd be fun to do a reunion where all four are there. 210 00:11:27,145 --> 00:11:30,648 We have tried every magical way to bring her back, 211 00:11:31,983 --> 00:11:33,26 but we can't. 212 00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:35,945 She's gone. 213 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:40,783 | just... 214 00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:43,161 | thank God that | didn't lose you too. 215 00:11:43,286 --> 00:11:45,622 Shannen never returned to the show. It would have been complicated, 216 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:48,82 though not on "Charmed", but at the end of season three, 217 00:11:48,124 --> 00:11:49,334 her character was killed. 218 00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:52,587 It was a cliffhanger, and all three of the actresses theoretically 219 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:55,215 were dead at the end of act three, the end of season three, 220 00:11:55,423 --> 00:11:58,927 and then we brought our way out of it beginning of season four. 221 00:12:00,803 --> 00:12:02,680 And you could have found a way to bring her back, 222 00:12:02,764 --> 00:12:04,599 either as a ghost, or as a this, or as a that, 223 00:12:04,641 --> 00:12:07,101 because it was "Charmed". So nobody ever really died on "Charmed", 224 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:10,230 but so they could have brought her back, but it never came up. 225 00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:12,941 The door was open. 226 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,194 I'm sorry, | shouldn't be here. 227 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:19,948 No, no, no, no. No, no. We were just coming to look for you. 228 00:12:20,865 --> 00:12:21,741 You were? 229 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:24,494 Yep. Come on in. Welcome. 230 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:28,915 When we brought Rose McGowan into "Charmed", from the time she arrived, 231 00:12:28,998 --> 00:12:31,292 she was a breath of fresh air because she was excited to be there, 232 00:12:31,376 --> 00:12:34,337 she had a new comic element, and she was just a delight 233 00:12:34,337 --> 00:12:35,630 to be around. 234 00:12:35,713 --> 00:12:37,507 But the one thing about her past 235 00:12:37,632 --> 00:12:39,133 that sort of you knew 236 00:12:39,217 --> 00:12:40,468 just by being with her is 237 00:12:40,551 --> 00:12:42,345 she had this huge tattoo on her back. 238 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:45,348 It was a wonderful tattoo, but it's something 239 00:12:45,473 --> 00:12:46,641 that she became uncomfortable with. 240 00:12:46,724 --> 00:12:49,727 So over, | think it was either the first year of the show or the second year, 241 00:12:49,811 --> 00:12:52,230 she had the tattoo removed, but it took time 242 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,774 to have it taken off, because it was such a 243 00:12:54,857 --> 00:12:57,277 large tattoo, but that was kind of interesting. 244 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,822 From her past life, and that kind of tattoo, and she took it off. 245 00:13:00,905 --> 00:13:03,950 But all the actresses on the show actually had a lot of tattoos. 246 00:13:04,158 --> 00:13:05,952 In the beginning we covered them with makeup, 247 00:13:06,35 --> 00:13:07,370 because Aaron didn't want to see that. 248 00:13:07,745 --> 00:13:10,373 And by the third season they just said, "Screw you. 249 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,792 We're going to wear our tattoos." And they did. 250 00:13:13,543 --> 00:13:15,420 And you, you're getting so caught up with this magical kick. 251 00:13:15,503 --> 00:13:17,255 | mean, look at your hair, it's still red from the potion 252 00:13:17,338 --> 00:13:19,132 you blew up last night. 253 00:13:19,173 --> 00:13:21,634 Do you have any idea how much this would cost in a salon? 254 00:13:22,468 --> 00:13:24,137 | love your do, honey. 255 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:26,347 | think you look beautiful. Okay, bye. 256 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:27,765 Thank you. 257 00:13:27,932 --> 00:13:31,436 And then a funny thing, Alyssa, beginning of season three, | think, 258 00:13:31,477 --> 00:13:34,605 or season four, suddenly shows up and she had her hair 259 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:36,774 cut into a pixie. She'd had really long hair, 260 00:13:36,858 --> 00:13:38,401 and she just shows up, and she has a pixie cut. 261 00:13:38,443 --> 00:13:39,402 She decided on her own. 262 00:13:39,527 --> 00:13:42,822 Aaron had a heart attack and freaked out, but nothing we could do, 263 00:13:42,947 --> 00:13:45,700 and it looked great. So we just went with it. 264 00:13:45,783 --> 00:13:48,77 But the actresses can sort of, 265 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:51,164 at some point when the show is successful, 266 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:54,292 the actors will drive the ship. 267 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:56,461 The certain things that they want, they'll get. 268 00:13:56,753 --> 00:13:58,588 It's time to send your groupies away. Now. 269 00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:02,800 But serving me makes them so happy. Thank you. 270 00:14:04,218 --> 00:14:06,137 Thank you, bachelor number three. 271 00:14:06,804 --> 00:14:09,307 All right. All of you, show is over, move along. 272 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:11,309 We live to serve Phoebe. 273 00:14:11,476 --> 00:14:14,103 Oh, you do, don't you? That's so sweet. 274 00:14:14,228 --> 00:14:16,522 Piper, you need to get some followers of your own. 275 00:14:16,606 --> 00:14:19,233 It's really a great confidence builder. 276 00:14:19,317 --> 00:14:23,946 If I'm looking back at the actors who were on the show as guest stars 277 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:26,699 that later became stars, for example, Amy Adams. 278 00:14:26,783 --> 00:14:28,951 | read that, | went, "Amy Adams was on 'Charmed'?" 279 00:14:28,993 --> 00:14:29,869 | didn't remember. 280 00:14:30,36 --> 00:14:31,621 So | went back, and | looked at the 281 00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:33,539 episode, and there she is being Amy Adams. 282 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:35,375 | mean, there's absolutely nothing different about her 283 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:36,459 wonderful performance on "Charmed" 284 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:38,586 than there was when she blows up into these great big movies now, 285 00:14:38,669 --> 00:14:40,338 but she hadn't gotten that role 286 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:41,839 that made her a big star. 287 00:14:41,923 --> 00:14:45,676 Jon Hamm was another one. Jon Hamm was a guest star just before "Mad Men", 288 00:14:45,927 --> 00:14:48,54 and he did a great job, and he's a wonderful actor, 289 00:14:48,96 --> 00:14:50,473 but you never think about these people who become big stars 290 00:14:50,556 --> 00:14:52,350 having been on your television show as guest stars. 291 00:14:55,686 --> 00:14:57,230 Who are you? 292 00:14:58,64 --> 00:14:58,940 The Supremes. 293 00:15:01,526 --> 00:15:03,486 She wields the powers of the gods. 294 00:15:03,528 --> 00:15:04,695 Just kill the elder. 295 00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:11,452 We would always start the season with bigger episodes, 296 00:15:11,536 --> 00:15:17,41 and we'd spend the money, but it's all a 22 or 24 season balancing act. 297 00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:19,168 Some episodes are bigger than others, and so you try 298 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:21,712 to save money on some, and you go bigger on another. 299 00:15:21,796 --> 00:15:25,07 Actually to save money, it was one of my favorite episodes, what we did is, 300 00:15:25,550 --> 00:15:30,513 this is year six or seven, and we ended up using 301 00:15:30,555 --> 00:15:33,433 green screen, which was really just coming along at that point, 302 00:15:33,724 --> 00:15:37,103 to put the girls back in scenes from earlier episodes 303 00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:41,107 in the first and second year. So they were crouching in a scene 304 00:15:41,190 --> 00:15:43,693 that they were already in. So it was really fun, 305 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:46,112 because we were trying to save money by doing that. 306 00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:47,864 We actually instead of had to shoot a four page scene, 307 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:49,699 it's the four page scene was shot, we were just shooting 308 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:52,201 the inserts of the people watching it on green screen. 309 00:15:52,243 --> 00:15:55,830 So we shot a what's normally an eight day episode 310 00:15:55,913 --> 00:15:57,623 in six days or five days, so it would save money, 311 00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:01,544 but it became a very clever show because the girls were inserted 312 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:05,465 into old episodes with a new spin of what's happening now. 313 00:16:05,548 --> 00:16:07,49 So it was very smart and clever. 314 00:16:09,177 --> 00:16:10,303 Hey! 315 00:16:10,845 --> 00:16:12,180 Sorry, | couldn't hold you. 316 00:16:13,931 --> 00:16:17,393 Phoebe, you can't stand. You don't have legs. 317 00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:20,521 Okay, well why me? Why did | get the tail? 318 00:16:20,605 --> 00:16:22,565 We all read that spell together. 319 00:16:22,732 --> 00:16:25,151 We did a lot of two-parters to start seasons. 320 00:16:25,193 --> 00:16:28,946 So we did these bigger episodes, and | really enjoyed doing that. 321 00:16:31,365 --> 00:16:33,951 Like the mermaid episode | really enjoyed, 322 00:16:34,35 --> 00:16:36,245 and then there was one where they were Greek goddesses, 323 00:16:36,287 --> 00:16:39,665 which is silly, but fun. They loved dressing up, especially Alyssa. 324 00:16:39,707 --> 00:16:41,834 We always came up with these crazy characters for Alyssa, 325 00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:44,337 and she embraced it. She loved putting on those crazy costumes. 326 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:49,467 And | was very emotional when | directed the finale, the last episode, 327 00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:52,261 and we literally blew the house up, and we destroyed 328 00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:54,805 the sets in the making of it. 329 00:16:54,972 --> 00:16:56,849 And it really breaks your heart a little bit, 330 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:59,602 just for eight years we've been on the air in those sets, 331 00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:01,521 though we ended up moving them. 332 00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:04,65 We first started shooting out in Glendale, 333 00:17:04,148 --> 00:17:05,483 there was a problem with the air, 334 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:08,903 so then we moved the sets to Woodland Hills to a warehouse, 335 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:11,906 which was only three miles from my house, | loved that. 336 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:14,200 And we were there for four or five years, 337 00:17:14,242 --> 00:17:16,661 and then we finished the last three years at Paramount Studios, 338 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:20,164 which | also loved because I'd spent so many years there doing "MacGyver", 339 00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:22,875 and doing "Star Trek". So it was like a second home to me. 340 00:17:42,853 --> 00:17:44,438 The contract was up on all the actresses. 341 00:17:44,605 --> 00:17:48,943 At the end of eight years, we had them for six, we re-negotiated, 342 00:17:49,26 --> 00:17:51,696 got two more years, eight year it was up. 343 00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:54,73 If they wanted to continue the show, they had to renegotiate 344 00:17:54,156 --> 00:17:57,660 the actresses for more, and | think Rose was done, and | think 345 00:17:57,743 --> 00:18:00,288 Alyssa was done. So it would have been Holly who would've stayed, 346 00:18:00,496 --> 00:18:02,957 but they didn't pitch anything, the network, | mean. 347 00:18:03,82 --> 00:18:05,209 They just decided to let the show go. 348 00:18:06,627 --> 00:18:09,422 If they had, we could have crafted a show with just Holly, 349 00:18:09,505 --> 00:18:11,07 and the others visiting every so often 350 00:18:11,48 --> 00:18:13,676 if we wanted to, but the network was ready to let it go. 351 00:18:21,392 --> 00:18:24,61 | don't understand. How could this happen? 352 00:18:24,61 --> 00:18:27,440 | think now the network would like to have kept it on longer. 353 00:18:27,648 --> 00:18:30,234 | Know that Holly would have stayed. I'm not sure Alyssa. 354 00:18:30,276 --> 00:18:31,902 | think Alyssa was ready to go at that point, 355 00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:37,158 but "Supernatural", which | did, was on 15 years. 356 00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:40,536 So that reset what you can do with a supernatural show 357 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,705 on network television. 358 00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:47,251 Don't tell me we have to go fight a demon? 359 00:18:47,335 --> 00:18:50,379 No, | don't think we'll have to do that anytime soon. 360 00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:52,214 Then what's with the book? 361 00:18:53,49 --> 00:18:57,261 Well, | think we should write everything down, everything that happened, 362 00:18:57,386 --> 00:19:00,973 everything we want future generations to know, so that we can pass it down. 363 00:19:01,57 --> 00:19:03,100 Just like it was passed down to us. 364 00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:08,356 "Charmed", it's almost as popular now as when we were doing it. 365 00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:10,66 It's got a huge following on the internet. 366 00:19:10,191 --> 00:19:13,986 It's got a huge following on Twitter. 367 00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:17,281 It's been watched all the time. The crew was very close. 368 00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:19,200 We've had two big reunions, 369 00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:20,242 both at Alyssa's house. 370 00:19:20,576 --> 00:19:22,953 We had a reunion about three years ago, 371 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,830 and we had a reunion after 10 years. 372 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:26,832 So it was a ten-year and a 15 year reunion, | think. 373 00:19:27,41 --> 00:19:30,127 The cast and crew always still talking, very close. 374 00:19:30,294 --> 00:19:32,88 It was a great show in that regard. 375 00:19:33,297 --> 00:19:35,966 So a lot of us have great memories. 376 00:19:36,08 --> 00:19:38,302 | mean, eight years ona series is a long, long time 377 00:19:38,719 --> 00:19:42,473 with pretty much the same crew, and that's great. 378 00:19:42,556 --> 00:19:43,974 And I'm still friends with all those people. 379 00:19:44,58 --> 00:19:46,977 We're still in touch, and because of Facebook and Twitter, 380 00:19:47,61 --> 00:19:48,562 everyone is reaching out all the time. 381 00:19:48,646 --> 00:19:52,692 So you're knowing what everyone is doing, and that's fun. So in terms of the shows 382 00:19:52,733 --> 00:19:55,653 that I've worked on for a long time, it's one of my 383 00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:59,198 most emotionally touchstones, because | was there a long time, 384 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,492 and I've got so many good friends from it. 31447

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