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Give it up for your Wings of Voice Top 50
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in our Celebration of Genre Medley!
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Amazing grace
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How sweet the sound
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That saved a wretch
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Like me
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I once was lost but now I'm found
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Was blind but
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Now I see
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Amazing grace
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How sweet
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Your grace is amazing
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Sound so sweet I can taste it
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Any wretch, he'll catch you, save you
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What a sensation
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- Man, it's amazing
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Amazing grace...
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Wings of Voice no longer had
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But I had an obligation to these singers
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to see the competition through.
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It won't be all celebration today
for our talented singers.
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Forty of the faces you see up here
will be going home tonight.
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But I was finding it hard
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with everything I'd been learning
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James E. Barmore Jr.
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Samouhi.
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Quin.
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Unfortunately, you will not be advancing.
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It was sort of shocking to discover
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that no matter what a pilot
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talking to a therapist about it
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might lead to them losing their license.
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So, during breaks in the competition,
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I brought in actors posing as crew members
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to casually engage co-pilots
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You look pretty young to be a pilot.
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- Twenty-seven. Yeah.
- Twenty-seven? Okay.
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I would have guessed younger, actually.
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I thought it might be nice
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in case they needed it.
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- It's been a year since the breakup?
- Yeah, yeah.
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- Maybe a year and a half, yeah.
- Did you guys live together?
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- Yeah. For about a year, yeah.
- Oh, wow.
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I remember sitting there
in my room, just...
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- stunned.
- Yeah.
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You know, like, "How could that happen?"
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I just want to be clear
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This is in no way therapy.
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This is just two people talking.
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- It's not-- I'm not unhappy...
- Yeah.
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...but am I fulfilled?
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Would I like to be doing
something different?
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- I don't know.
- You don't know?
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What would you do if you could
do something different?
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Yeah, that's the thing...
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But as I listened in
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I noticed one co-pilot
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who was having an especially hard time
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talking about stuff.
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- No?
- No.
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Yep, that's--
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Colin is a First Officer
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And when his dating life came up,
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Is that like an issue then,
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in piloting?
Where you're not able to like--
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It's definitely-- Yeah.
It's definitely a common thing.
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- Excuse me. Common thing.
- You're good.
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- Any dates recently or--
- Nope. Doesn't really work out.
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I mean, yeah, that's tough.
That's a tough time to--
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And I was curious to find out more.
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I couldn't help but overhear you talking
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with our boom operator, Lucas,
one of our operators.
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- Yep, seems like a nice guy.
- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You guys were talking
about dating stuff? Or...
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- A little bit, yeah.
- What was--
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Like, "How do you initiate
a con-- that conversation
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- with total strangers" type thing.
- Oh, yeah.
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Like, trying to figure out
the wording of it,
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'cause in person you have
that one shot and you just do it.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah, I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Not-- It hasn't worked. It didn't work.
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But Colin's struggle didn't surprise me.
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Whenever I travel now,
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I can't help but notice pilots everywhere
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just not talking to each other.
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Standing in complete silence
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hundreds of people through the sky.
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Was this really how to start
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between two strangers?
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What if this time was instead used
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To build a relationship
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any challenge that comes their way.
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But what tools
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I've tried things like trying
to be someone you're not,
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trying to seem more outgoing
or cooler than you are.
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- You've tried that?
- I've tried that.
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- How do you--
- I fell right on my face.
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- Oh, really? With a girl?
- Yep. Yep.
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It's one of those things
where I was kind of, like,
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almost humiliated, so I was like,
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"Let's get all that information
out of my head."
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Colin had recently messaged a woman.
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"Hey, do you have any travel tips
for Greenland and Iceland?"
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"I saw you've been there a couple times."
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- This is just some girl?
- Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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You think you'll get a response?
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- Maybe.
- Okay.
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Cool.
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Okay, come on in here.
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So this is why I asked you
what you'd be wearing today.
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- Okay.
- To send photos.
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It's something I've been
working on called The Pack.
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- Yep.
- And so I think
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it may have the potential to, like,
help change human behavior.
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I saw a nature documentary recently
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where it said that animals
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- Colin.
- Colin.
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...'cause it gives each individual animal
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the confidence to do things
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they'd normally be afraid
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- You wanna get a coffee real quick?
- Wanna get a coffee?
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- Sure. Yeah.
- All right.
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I wondered if that idea applied to humans
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would make social interactions
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Rehearsing a date scenario
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but now with 15 of you
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Black coffee, that's pretty hardcore.
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- It's normal.
- It's normal.
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- It's much easier to do.
- It's much easier to do.
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I had a theory
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that the start of a romantic relationship
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is a great parallel
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for two pilots meeting before a flight.
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What's the longest you could go
without coffee?
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I mean, I could probably
just go without it for a day,
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but it definitely helps...
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You become intimately involved
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where both people are desperately trying
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to read each other,
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but the pressure to show
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can prevent you from sharing
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Yeah, so I think I need
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to probably get to the airport, so...
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Oh! Oh, you're going straight
to the airport.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- Best of luck?
- Yeah, thank you. You, too.
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Okay. Take it easy.
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- Safe travels.
- Yeah, you, too.
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- Have a great rest of your day.
- Thank you.
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You sort of said, "Oh, I gotta go.
I'll see you later."
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But did you feel like
you gave the impression
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that you would want to see her again?
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I don't know.
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I felt like Colin was gaining confidence
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with this Pack.
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Yeah, I've had a great time
with you today.
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I'd like to do it again sometime
later this week if you're free.
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- I'd love that.
- Great.
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But of course, this date was all fake.
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For me to know if any technique
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would actually help
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he would need
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Nope.
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He didn't have
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Well...
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Sounds-- Seems pretty normal
for just a random person.
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- Yeah.
- So after Colin left,
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I decided to gather all the actors
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So, who here is into Colin?
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Into him how?
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- Can you define what that means?
- When I say "into,"
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I mean you find him cute,
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or are attracted to him.
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I mean, I think he's kind of charming.
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Okay, raise your hand and keep it up
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- if you're into him.
- He's kind of cute.
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Raise your hand. You? Okay, okay.
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So hands--
One, two, three here. Okay.
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The rest of you guys can leave.
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So what do you guys
like the most about Colin?
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He seems like the kind of guy
where once you get to know him,
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he's probably funny.
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- Yeah.
- But--
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He's a little reserved.
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I mean, I could be wrong, but--
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- He was just really sweet, and--
- Yeah.
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He seems to, yeah,
go do a lot of adventures
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and things like that, and that's--
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You know, I'm not so much
attracted to men physically.
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- It's more intellectually.
- He's smart.
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- I mean, Colin's really smart.
- I know, and I like--
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That's what I like.
To me, that's what turns me on.
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You're turned on by his intelligence.
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I'm turned on by intelligence.
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Like, when I was a little kid,
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Einstein was a guy I thought was so sexy.
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- Einstein?
- Einstein, yes.
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- Really?
- Yeah, and I read his story
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and everything. I was like,
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"Oh, yeah, this is the kind of man
I would have loved."
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Einstein.
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And he had a baby
when he was really young.
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- Did you know that?
- No.
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Y'all don't know? You know,
just when you have a...
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I don't want to say that, but--
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- What?
- A wet dream, but you know--
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- A wet dream?
- Wow.
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You had a wet dream about Einstein?
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I was turned on to him. Yeah.
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What's a wet dream for a woman?
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'Cause I know sort of, for...
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Well, you can--
Women can get wet, too, you know.
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I-- I--
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But I'm not saying it's a dream.
I was wide awake when I had it.
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- You were wide awake?
- I was wide awake.
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- Yeah.
- Is that a wet dream?
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- If you're awake?
- But it wasn't really a--
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Well, I wasn't asleep...
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- Are you saying--
- ...but I was wet.
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I mean, I was wet and I was awake.
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I was reading his book, his biography.
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- His biography?
- His biography.
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And when I read about him,
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and looked at that E equals MC squared,
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I don't know, it was just a turn-on.
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- I can't really explain it.
- And you got wet in that moment.
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Yeah, I literally got wet in the moment.
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So you feel like Colin's
kind of an Einstein?
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Well, even, you know--
He's got intelligence.
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- That's what I'm saying.
- Yeah.
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I wouldn't say he's an Einstein.
Einstein is one of a kind.
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It was hard to say
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any of these women had in Colin.
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Other than like strictly physical,
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I mean, just the way
that he holds himself
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I think is kind of charming.
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But if something real
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I knew I couldn't force it.
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Ethically speaking, I can't ask you
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to pursue Colin,
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but if tomorrow
during any one of your breaks,
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- you wanna shoot your shot...
- Yeah.
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- Let's just say...
- Give it your best shot.
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...I'm not gonna stand
in your way.
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Yeah.
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The door is open. Walk on in.
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- Let the games begin.
- Let the games begin.
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Colin said he didn't
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outside of his job,
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so I thought it might be helpful
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for him to practice expressing
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Anything good on any of those magazines?
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No. Just usual trashy fare.
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- Yeah, I bet.
- Yeah, I bet.
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But I was most curious to see if
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would help Colin form real chemistry
259
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once everyone was off the clock.
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Did you go to school in...
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- Alabama?
- Yeah. I went to high school
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about half an hour south
of Huntsville.
263
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- Oh, okay.
- I was going to go to Ireland,
264
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and then my-- One
of my bartender friends said,
265
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"Hey, dummy,
Oktoberfest is happening!"
266
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- So, I changed plans.
- "Go there!" Oh, my God.
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Two days later,
I was on the flight to Munich.
268
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- And how was that?
- Awesome.
269
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- That was probably insane.
- Yeah.
270
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So, yeah, I travel places,
271
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but my list never gets any shorter.
272
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See, well, what do you have
on the list, though?
273
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Like, I've got-- I do eventually,
like, want to climb Kilimanjaro.
274
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Need to explore more of Europe.
275
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Okay.
276
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Like I said, I need to finish--
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Yeah.
278
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No, you're good.
279
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Yeah.
280
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I'm gonna head back,
but yeah. Definitely Seoul.
281
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- Yeah.
- You gotta go there.
282
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- It's on the list.
- Yes, top of the list.
283
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But it was pretty unclear to me
284
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if anything came from these conversations.
285
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So later, I checked in with Colin.
286
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So, how's it going?
287
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Seems to be good.
288
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Did you get any responses
to those messages you sent out?
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- Nope.
- Nothing?
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Nothing.
291
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Sorry.
292
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It is what it is. But...
293
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like...
294
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I got some good travel ideas
from one of the actresses, Emma.
295
00:13:03,866 --> 00:13:06,284
- Oh, yeah?
- So we might try and bounce ideas
296
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off of each other
over a cup of coffee or something.
297
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Bounce ideas?
298
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- Yep.
- Good.
299
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You know, she actually told me
300
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that she has a bit of a crush on you.
301
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Interesting.
302
00:13:18,714 --> 00:13:20,508
You ask her out, or she ask you out?
303
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- Little of both.
- Little of both?
304
00:13:24,136 --> 00:13:27,639
Nice. Well,
let the games begin, I guess.
305
00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,766
Yeah, we'll see.
306
00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:34,020
I hear you and Colin might be going out
307
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or have a plan?
308
00:13:35,564 --> 00:13:38,358
Yeah, maybe some coffee,
but I don't know where.
309
00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:40,569
And you... You really like him?
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I mean, yeah. Like, I...
311
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I...
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want to get to know him more.
313
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- And your intentions are pure?
- I would say so.
314
00:13:48,953 --> 00:13:50,245
- Yeah.
- I'm not-- Trust me, I'm not--
315
00:13:50,246 --> 00:13:52,413
I'm only saying, you know,
Collin is just such a sweet guy.
316
00:13:52,414 --> 00:13:54,708
- Yeah.
- So I would hate if anyone had...
317
00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:57,585
you know, didn't have
the best intentions
318
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in terms of pursuing him, but--
319
00:14:00,589 --> 00:14:03,717
I wouldn't say I'm that person,
and I-- because I literally...
320
00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:07,596
This is too hard for me to even do.
321
00:14:08,055 --> 00:14:09,848
It seemed like the foundation
322
00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:12,017
for a genuine connection was there.
323
00:14:12,142 --> 00:14:14,436
But just because you're going
324
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it doesn't mean two people
325
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- Where are you from, brother?
- Indianapolis.
326
00:14:19,733 --> 00:14:21,026
Oh, sick. You a Colts fan?
327
00:14:21,151 --> 00:14:23,152
I know that in any relationship,
328
00:14:23,153 --> 00:14:27,073
the challenges are specific
329
00:14:27,074 --> 00:14:29,158
Does your, like, whole family
live out there, too?
330
00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:32,537
Yeah, I live with my grandma
and my family right now.
331
00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:35,165
So before Colin and Emma left that day,
332
00:14:35,332 --> 00:14:38,878
I had five female actors
333
00:14:39,128 --> 00:14:42,380
and also had five male actors study Colin.
334
00:14:42,381 --> 00:14:44,800
When you're not flying,
what do you like to do?
335
00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:47,344
Hiking, trivia.
336
00:14:48,137 --> 00:14:50,179
- Playing Irish folk music.
- Wha-- Irish folk music?
337
00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:51,682
- Playing Irish folk music?
- Yeah.
338
00:14:51,807 --> 00:14:53,892
These actors needed to learn everything
339
00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,977
about this blossoming couple,
340
00:14:55,978 --> 00:14:58,731
because I had a plan
341
00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:02,317
designed specifically
342
00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:04,445
the best chance of success.
343
00:15:06,322 --> 00:15:09,449
Oh, wow. Yeah, nice.
344
00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:13,495
So, these are saltwater fish,
and the one that looks like--
345
00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:17,499
With five exact replicas
346
00:15:17,625 --> 00:15:21,211
and five fake versions
347
00:15:21,503 --> 00:15:24,422
I could use this as a predictive tool
348
00:15:24,423 --> 00:15:27,675
that would hopefully reveal
349
00:15:27,676 --> 00:15:29,595
a new couple might face,
350
00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:34,099
allowing Colin to have
351
00:15:41,899 --> 00:15:43,149
The actors were able to choose
352
00:15:43,150 --> 00:15:45,693
their own scene partner
353
00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:48,905
based on who they felt
354
00:15:48,906 --> 00:15:50,449
as their real selves.
355
00:15:51,575 --> 00:15:52,660
Oh, yeah?
356
00:15:54,036 --> 00:15:57,413
This was because I wanted them
357
00:15:57,414 --> 00:16:00,209
how the relationships
358
00:16:00,334 --> 00:16:02,251
I actually get a little nervous
sometimes when I fly.
359
00:16:02,252 --> 00:16:03,337
- Oh, really?
- Yeah.
360
00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:05,381
- It can be a little nerve-wracking.
- Do you see...
361
00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:08,049
That way, I could observe the challenges
362
00:16:08,050 --> 00:16:10,885
the actors were encountering
363
00:16:10,886 --> 00:16:13,721
what Colin would
364
00:16:13,722 --> 00:16:16,849
- How's it been going?
- I think it's been going good.
365
00:16:16,850 --> 00:16:20,562
I think he's trying to...
366
00:16:21,063 --> 00:16:22,522
I think he's a little nervous.
367
00:16:22,523 --> 00:16:27,568
I tried to give him, like, the eye,
and he wasn't taking the hint.
368
00:16:27,569 --> 00:16:30,363
- Okay. "The eye," you said?
- Yeah, like, "the eye."
369
00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,031
You know, when you look at one eye,
370
00:16:32,032 --> 00:16:33,449
look at the lips, look back up.
371
00:16:33,450 --> 00:16:35,244
- You know, the little trick?
- What is that?
372
00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:36,786
It's a little flirty trick women do.
373
00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:38,121
And what's the trick?
374
00:16:38,122 --> 00:16:41,833
It's kind of supposed to be
like a subconscious code
375
00:16:41,834 --> 00:16:43,334
for like, "Hey, you wanna kiss me?"
376
00:16:43,335 --> 00:16:44,961
- Oh, really?
- I don't know, I tried to get him
377
00:16:44,962 --> 00:16:46,963
to kiss-- I don't know,
I've tried it before and it worked.
378
00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:49,007
- I got told that once. Yeah.
- Oh, really?
379
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,842
Can you just show me--
show me what you did?
380
00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:52,219
'Cause I was like...
381
00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:57,265
And the guy's supposed to know
382
00:16:57,266 --> 00:16:58,767
- from that--
- Hopefully they get the hint.
383
00:16:58,934 --> 00:17:00,102
I've talked with girls.
384
00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:02,103
- It's a thing.
- Yeah, yeah.
385
00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:04,064
- Yeah.
- Let me see it again.
386
00:17:08,944 --> 00:17:09,944
All right, yeah.
387
00:17:09,945 --> 00:17:11,487
I sort of see, it's like-- Yeah, yeah.
388
00:17:11,488 --> 00:17:13,240
- All right. All right.
- I get it.
389
00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:15,576
Okay. All right, cool.
390
00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:17,618
- I'll let you get back to it.
- All right, cool.
391
00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:19,038
- Thank you.
- Okay. Thanks, yeah.
392
00:17:20,414 --> 00:17:25,460
So, this is so we can predict
any issues that might arise for you.
393
00:17:25,461 --> 00:17:29,465
I felt it was finally time
394
00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:33,677
What do you think?
395
00:17:43,937 --> 00:17:45,104
Very interesting.
396
00:17:45,105 --> 00:17:46,939
But what I was really curious about
397
00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:49,817
was seeing how things were going
398
00:17:49,818 --> 00:17:51,653
So how was your date?
399
00:17:52,738 --> 00:17:53,780
- Good.
- Good?
400
00:17:53,781 --> 00:17:55,866
- It went well.
- Was there any...
401
00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:58,576
Kiss action?
402
00:17:58,577 --> 00:17:59,787
- Nope.
- No.
403
00:18:01,288 --> 00:18:03,915
Did-- Do you feel
like she wanted to or...
404
00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:06,543
Didn't notice any hints
that indicated it this time.
405
00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:10,005
- Okay.
- So, if it was, it was very subtle.
406
00:18:10,464 --> 00:18:12,633
Yeah, well, it can be
subtle sometimes, right?
407
00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:14,510
- Yep.
- It's sort of hard to tell.
408
00:18:14,676 --> 00:18:17,346
Did she look-- Did she stare
at you for a while ever?
409
00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:18,972
A couple times.
410
00:18:20,974 --> 00:18:22,601
How do you know that wasn't it?
411
00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:24,603
Good question.
412
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:26,605
Did she look at your eyes,
413
00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:28,816
then to your lips,
and then back to your eyes?
414
00:18:28,941 --> 00:18:30,692
If she did, I didn't notice it.
415
00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:33,695
I mean, but it's not a bad thing. Like...
416
00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:35,363
- Yeah.
- ...'cause these things are hard
417
00:18:35,364 --> 00:18:37,908
and that's why we have the Pack, right?
418
00:18:38,158 --> 00:18:40,327
- Which was helpful, no?
- Yep.
419
00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:42,913
So maybe let's work on it, huh?
420
00:18:54,758 --> 00:18:55,884
Did you just look at me?
421
00:18:56,009 --> 00:18:57,635
- Oh, I was looking that way.
- Oh, okay.
422
00:18:57,636 --> 00:18:59,637
- I thought you looked over at me.
- I was kind of glancing.
423
00:18:59,638 --> 00:19:01,013
Like kind of scanning the entire thing.
424
00:19:01,014 --> 00:19:02,850
Yeah. Didn't know
if you were looking at my face.
425
00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:04,600
- Wow.
- Welcome.
426
00:19:04,601 --> 00:19:06,854
This is a really nice place.
427
00:19:07,604 --> 00:19:08,647
- Yeah.
- I like it.
428
00:19:08,772 --> 00:19:12,192
- What is that?
- That is a...
429
00:19:12,901 --> 00:19:15,194
like a ceremonial spear from Tanzania.
430
00:19:15,195 --> 00:19:17,280
One great thing about the Pack
431
00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:19,699
is that it can make a co-pilot feel
432
00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:22,661
like his struggles
433
00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:26,540
and that you're not alone
434
00:19:26,748 --> 00:19:28,000
So what do you want to do?
435
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:29,877
That's a good question.
436
00:19:31,044 --> 00:19:34,006
I've got the fish tank over there
if you want to learn about fish.
437
00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:36,591
- I can be that nerd.
- Yeah, I--
438
00:19:36,592 --> 00:19:39,218
It looks like those two
were kissing for a second.
439
00:19:39,219 --> 00:19:40,554
Yeah, they definitely--
440
00:19:41,096 --> 00:19:43,891
They tend to pair up
and then do their own thing.
441
00:19:44,892 --> 00:19:46,560
- Kind of funny sometimes.
- Yeah.
442
00:19:46,685 --> 00:19:50,396
But I was starting to notice
443
00:19:50,397 --> 00:19:52,357
How's everything going with Colin?
444
00:19:52,774 --> 00:19:54,233
I think, yeah, good.
445
00:19:54,234 --> 00:19:55,526
- Good?
- Yeah, yeah!
446
00:19:55,527 --> 00:19:57,069
Like, he'd tell me about his flying thing.
447
00:19:57,070 --> 00:19:59,030
I'd kind of, like, do a joke or something.
448
00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:01,825
And at least he laughed.
Like, I wasn't just, you know...
449
00:20:02,075 --> 00:20:03,201
It went good.
450
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,745
Has he kissed you yet?
Tried to kiss you?
451
00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:07,289
- No.
- Oh, okay.
452
00:20:07,414 --> 00:20:10,083
Is that something you would want?
453
00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:13,587
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
454
00:20:13,837 --> 00:20:15,755
Oh, okay. Sure. Nice.
455
00:20:15,756 --> 00:20:20,302
But, like, maybe it's my--
I'm not giving out the right signals.
456
00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:22,511
- You think that's it?
- No, I don't know.
457
00:20:22,512 --> 00:20:23,596
Like, how do you, like...
458
00:20:23,597 --> 00:20:25,514
- How would I signal to him?
- What signals do you give?
459
00:20:25,515 --> 00:20:29,393
Like, it's just in the eyes.
Like, you give signals that way.
460
00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:31,062
- You're looking at his eyes?
- Yeah.
461
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,313
I did it multiple times.
462
00:20:32,314 --> 00:20:34,065
Like, "Are you gonna kiss me or what?"
463
00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:36,525
Whatever Colin practiced with his Pack
464
00:20:36,526 --> 00:20:39,946
didn't seem to be changing
465
00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:42,698
But we worked really hard
466
00:20:42,699 --> 00:20:44,034
You know a lot about fish.
467
00:20:45,118 --> 00:20:47,079
- Yeah.
- That's cool.
468
00:20:49,706 --> 00:20:50,998
- Yep.
- Yep.
469
00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:52,542
Well, I mean...
470
00:20:53,043 --> 00:20:56,587
So when I found out where Colin's
471
00:20:56,588 --> 00:20:59,174
I was sure to be watching from afar.
472
00:21:00,842 --> 00:21:03,761
- Yes!
- From what I could see,
473
00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:07,181
that high-five was the only
474
00:21:07,182 --> 00:21:08,432
while they were playing.
475
00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:11,228
A little more power there, bud.
A little more.
476
00:21:11,561 --> 00:21:12,604
That's my line.
477
00:21:13,188 --> 00:21:16,065
But I knew that the classic moment
478
00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:17,608
is when you say goodbye.
479
00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:20,736
I can do the concertina,
which is using every single finger...
480
00:21:20,737 --> 00:21:22,114
- Yeah, yeah.
- ...including the pinkies,
481
00:21:22,239 --> 00:21:23,239
which are useless,
482
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,784
- but can't do string.
- No?
483
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:28,536
Well, the-- I mean, guitar is not too bad.
484
00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:29,954
That's like the only one.
485
00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:33,249
But like I could not do cello. Violin?
486
00:21:33,250 --> 00:21:34,500
- That-- No. That's too hard.
- Yeah.
487
00:21:34,501 --> 00:21:36,752
If it has frets, you know where to go.
488
00:21:36,753 --> 00:21:38,796
Yeah, at least
you can play around with it,
489
00:21:38,797 --> 00:21:41,882
but that's like you gotta do, like...
There's such a little window.
490
00:21:41,883 --> 00:21:43,343
- Yeah.
- So, I don't know.
491
00:21:44,094 --> 00:21:45,095
Yeah.
492
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,306
- Is that you? Is that your ride?
- No.
493
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,558
I was about to say, if it is, I'm late.
494
00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:52,601
Yep, there's your Uber. Oh, my God.
495
00:21:52,602 --> 00:21:53,812
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
496
00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:55,104
Very pretty night.
497
00:21:55,105 --> 00:21:57,607
- Well, it was very nice seeing you.
- Yeah, it was nice seeing you, too.
498
00:21:57,733 --> 00:21:59,108
- Thank you, it was fun.
- Yeah.
499
00:21:59,109 --> 00:22:00,526
- Drive safe.
- You too.
500
00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:01,694
- And, yeah.
- I'll see you soon.
501
00:22:01,695 --> 00:22:02,863
See you soon.
502
00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:08,744
Maybe a man's Pack
503
00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:11,912
I can wear my pilot outfit
and be your butler.
504
00:22:11,913 --> 00:22:13,707
- Nice.
- And you can have a bell.
505
00:22:14,124 --> 00:22:15,875
Some of these fake relationships
506
00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:18,711
were so far ahead
507
00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:21,131
they bore almost no resemblance.
508
00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:25,593
But the actor's choice of how and when
509
00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:28,013
to become intimate intrigued me.
510
00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:30,474
Before the experiment began,
511
00:22:30,724 --> 00:22:33,809
I had given the actors the freedom
512
00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:36,063
if they felt they had
513
00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:37,564
Yeah, I guess I should ask you guys
514
00:22:38,648 --> 00:22:40,983
if either of you are
in a relationship or anything
515
00:22:40,984 --> 00:22:43,194
and you would want to opt out of this
because of that.
516
00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:45,112
- I don't know if that's something--
- Oh, no--
517
00:22:45,113 --> 00:22:46,572
Are either of you in a relationship?
518
00:22:46,573 --> 00:22:47,865
- I'm not.
- You're not?
519
00:22:47,866 --> 00:22:49,658
- I am. Yeah.
- Oh, you are?
520
00:22:49,659 --> 00:22:51,369
- Okay, is that okay?
- No, but this is--
521
00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,413
- Yeah, totally fine. Yeah.
- Okay.
522
00:22:53,538 --> 00:22:56,792
But one of the actresses
523
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,919
When I'm like approaching,
like, a love scene,
524
00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:01,129
obviously I know it's not "real" real,
525
00:23:01,338 --> 00:23:02,838
but, like, it was real
526
00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:04,465
for like a minute. You know what I mean?
527
00:23:04,466 --> 00:23:06,634
It's real for you when you're doing it?
528
00:23:06,635 --> 00:23:08,970
Yeah, like it's happening
while it's happening.
529
00:23:09,096 --> 00:23:10,888
- But it's not "real" real.
- Does that make sense? Yeah.
530
00:23:10,889 --> 00:23:12,223
- Like the emotions feel real.
- Yeah.
531
00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:14,392
It feels like it's-- I'm like,
"Oh, I really, like...
532
00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,268
I feel this way
about this person right now."
533
00:23:16,269 --> 00:23:17,728
- Like feel love?
- Yeah.
534
00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:20,231
And your boyfriend's
like cool with all that?
535
00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:22,066
- Yeah.
- Okay.
536
00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:23,442
- It's good that he understands.
- Yeah.
537
00:23:23,443 --> 00:23:24,653
He would get fired otherwise.
538
00:23:26,655 --> 00:23:28,407
This was confusing to me.
539
00:23:28,532 --> 00:23:33,244
I recently acted in a dramatic series
540
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:36,288
a network with some
541
00:23:36,289 --> 00:23:38,999
In the show,
542
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,252
who was deeply in love with his wife.
543
00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,547
- I'm so happy.
- You are.
544
00:23:44,339 --> 00:23:45,589
You are happy.
545
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:49,760
But even though I was mimicking
546
00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:51,096
inside my head,
547
00:23:51,221 --> 00:23:54,808
I didn't feel that at all
548
00:23:55,225 --> 00:23:57,685
I was basically
549
00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,690
of other people in love
550
00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:06,569
So I didn't understand how an actor
551
00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:09,197
in a completely fake relationship.
552
00:24:13,326 --> 00:24:15,828
We had an intimacy coordinator on set
553
00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:18,080
that the actors were free to consult with
554
00:24:18,081 --> 00:24:19,915
before doing anything with each other.
555
00:24:19,916 --> 00:24:22,210
So what did they say they wanted to do?
556
00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:25,338
Well, they said that
they've already kissed a lot,
557
00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:28,341
so that's obviously okay with them.
558
00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:32,720
Like, physically, they seem like
they're really... comfortable.
559
00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:34,764
You know she has a boyfriend, right?
560
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:36,515
In real life?
561
00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:38,310
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
562
00:24:38,727 --> 00:24:39,852
She didn't mention it.
563
00:24:39,853 --> 00:24:42,147
Oh, no, but I'm just saying, like...
564
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:44,316
Yeah.
565
00:24:46,026 --> 00:24:47,401
It's weird, isn't it?
566
00:24:47,402 --> 00:24:51,156
But it's one of those things
that like actors get to do.
567
00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:55,285
I know.
568
00:24:56,578 --> 00:24:59,205
Because this wasn't
569
00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:02,208
in an effort
570
00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:04,293
I encouraged the actors to invite
571
00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:06,504
any significant others they might have
572
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,839
to come observe everything
573
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,761
- She's pretty talented, huh?
- Yeah. Look at her go.
574
00:25:14,554 --> 00:25:16,056
How long you guys been together?
575
00:25:16,389 --> 00:25:17,599
A year and a half.
576
00:25:17,724 --> 00:25:19,100
- Oh, nice.
- Yeah.
577
00:25:20,393 --> 00:25:22,395
But we've known each other
for longer than that.
578
00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:24,022
- Oh, really?
- Yeah.
579
00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:29,986
You cool with all this?
580
00:25:30,737 --> 00:25:32,072
She's an actress.
581
00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:35,616
I was realizing there's
582
00:25:35,617 --> 00:25:37,911
when people say that they're acting.
583
00:25:39,412 --> 00:25:40,539
For these guys...
584
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:45,876
could you ask them how far
they'd be comfortable going
585
00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:48,630
in terms of intimacy?
586
00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:51,925
So part of that is up to you,
587
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,177
like, in terms of--
'cause you're the director, like...
588
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:57,847
What is the story that you want
to tell through the intimacy?
589
00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:00,767
I'd like to leave it up to them...
590
00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:04,062
- if that's okay.
- Okay. Okay.
591
00:26:08,108 --> 00:26:09,276
Take it off.
592
00:26:15,282 --> 00:26:18,951
I mean, it's not like
my favorite thing to see
593
00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:22,330
but it doesn't feel like I'm watching
594
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,124
my girlfriend get intimate
with another man.
595
00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:30,547
It feels like... I'm watching
the character she's created.
596
00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:35,759
Like, she's assumed a character,
and I assume so has he.
597
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,970
So, it's...
598
00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:41,474
It's in a weird way
like removed from themselves.
599
00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:44,727
It was like the concept of acting itself
600
00:26:44,728 --> 00:26:46,979
disarmed everyone in its presence.
601
00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,481
- Oh, hi!
- How's it going?
602
00:26:49,482 --> 00:26:54,154
And the actor gets a free pass
603
00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:57,531
Everything I'd been trying to do
604
00:26:57,532 --> 00:27:01,118
just comes down
605
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,830
to both act on their true feelings.
606
00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:07,082
Either speaking up about their fears,
607
00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:11,296
or admitting to your co-pilot
608
00:27:11,671 --> 00:27:15,008
These are feelings
609
00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:17,384
but many struggle to act upon
610
00:27:17,385 --> 00:27:20,013
because they fear the consequences.
611
00:27:20,555 --> 00:27:24,224
Could the concept of acting
612
00:27:24,225 --> 00:27:26,853
to do the things they're most afraid of?
613
00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:29,064
So have you ever acted before?
614
00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:30,982
No, I haven't.
615
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:34,361
Is it something you'd be interested
in giving a try?
616
00:27:36,571 --> 00:27:37,572
Possibly.
617
00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:40,574
So this scene will be mostly improv,
618
00:27:40,575 --> 00:27:42,910
and your character
is named Captain Powers
619
00:27:42,911 --> 00:27:44,244
- in this, okay?
- All right.
620
00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:45,371
- A little funny, right?
- Yeah.
621
00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:48,041
And he's called that
because he actually has a power,
622
00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,168
which is that every date he goes on,
623
00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:55,590
he has no problem asking for a kiss
and then doing it. Okay?
624
00:27:56,174 --> 00:27:59,386
And the other character
is named Jennifer Kissme.
625
00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:02,555
And Jennifer will be played by Emma.
626
00:28:02,931 --> 00:28:04,139
- Okay.
- Okay.
627
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:05,974
- Who's an actress, as you know.
- Yeah.
628
00:28:05,975 --> 00:28:09,061
All right. Well, let me go get
your scene partner then.
629
00:28:09,062 --> 00:28:10,146
Okay.
630
00:28:13,858 --> 00:28:15,567
For your character, just think about
631
00:28:15,568 --> 00:28:16,985
where you're coming from,
632
00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:18,822
what you're doing now,
633
00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:21,573
Okay, I'm inviting this person
634
00:28:21,574 --> 00:28:23,992
Like, how do you feel about me
as the character?
635
00:28:23,993 --> 00:28:25,369
- Like, think about that.
- Yep.
636
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:26,453
It's not that bad.
637
00:28:26,454 --> 00:28:27,955
It's literally like, it's nothing, dude.
638
00:28:27,956 --> 00:28:29,790
It's... It's-- I could not fly a plane.
639
00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:31,710
You can act. Like, anybody can...
640
00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:34,254
- You're just being yourself. So...
- Okay.
641
00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:36,130
Wow. Yeah, it's really nice.
642
00:28:36,131 --> 00:28:37,423
- Thank you.
- Yeah.
643
00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:38,758
A little bit cluttered, but...
644
00:28:39,259 --> 00:28:41,301
- Really good picture.
- Yeah, that was about 9,000 feet
645
00:28:41,302 --> 00:28:43,303
descending into Indianapolis.
646
00:28:43,304 --> 00:28:44,555
What camera do you have?
647
00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:46,515
- That was just an iPhone.
- Can I sit down?
648
00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:47,975
- Oh yeah, of course.
- Yeah?
649
00:28:47,976 --> 00:28:49,310
Yeah, that's really cool.
650
00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:52,230
Yeah, I don't know
where I got the eye for photography
651
00:28:52,355 --> 00:28:53,856
'cause neither of my parents
are good at it.
652
00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:54,941
- Really?
- Yeah.
653
00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:56,985
And then I can use the tipper here and...
654
00:29:02,449 --> 00:29:05,367
They are very well known
for their red wines.
655
00:29:05,368 --> 00:29:06,953
- Okay.
- Like the Malbecs.
656
00:29:07,328 --> 00:29:09,079
Well, what's the best one,
have you noticed?
657
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,040
I think overall my favorites
are from Portugal.
658
00:29:12,041 --> 00:29:13,292
- Yeah?
- For such a small country,
659
00:29:13,293 --> 00:29:16,336
they've got a pretty wide variety
of climates to grow.
660
00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:18,589
So you get subtle differences
depending on where you get it.
661
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:21,217
If you get it from the north side
or from the south side.
662
00:29:21,843 --> 00:29:23,052
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
663
00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:28,808
Yeah.
664
00:29:31,478 --> 00:29:32,479
Can I kiss you?
665
00:29:43,406 --> 00:29:44,532
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
666
00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:47,994
I don't know.
667
00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:49,703
You don't know?
668
00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:52,248
We could open up one of
those bottles of wine, if you like.
669
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:53,500
Sure.
670
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:58,420
Maybe we all need
671
00:29:58,421 --> 00:30:00,422
and we're just looking for permission.
672
00:30:00,423 --> 00:30:02,216
I'm trying to be like, "Portugal,"
673
00:30:02,217 --> 00:30:03,843
- or like, "Yeah, yeah."
- No.
674
00:30:04,052 --> 00:30:05,177
Yeah, it's good.
675
00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:06,387
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
676
00:30:09,682 --> 00:30:10,767
Yeah.
677
00:30:12,101 --> 00:30:14,770
It was hard to know
678
00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:16,397
on someone's cheek.
679
00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:21,069
But if this allowed a co-pilot to act
680
00:30:21,736 --> 00:30:24,239
maybe I was actually onto something.
681
00:30:24,447 --> 00:30:25,614
You actually did really good.
682
00:30:25,615 --> 00:30:27,199
- I didn't think-- I mean, I was--
- Thank you.
683
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,618
Yeah, that tip you gave me
about figuring out where--
684
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:32,454
like, where we came from
rather than just, you show up...
685
00:30:32,455 --> 00:30:34,123
- Yeah.
- ...was very helpful.
686
00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:37,877
Oh, wow.
687
00:30:38,378 --> 00:30:40,587
So HBO is paying for all this,
688
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:43,549
and they basically gave me,
you know, a blank check
689
00:30:43,550 --> 00:30:45,260
as long as I don't go over budget.
690
00:30:45,426 --> 00:30:46,427
Wow.
691
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,930
Yeah, the only requirement is that...
692
00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:52,516
everything I'm doing
related to aviation safety
693
00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:55,770
has to be
somewhat entertaining, I guess.
694
00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:58,064
Right. That's what sells.
695
00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:06,823
- You recognize this?
- Yeah, I do.
696
00:31:07,407 --> 00:31:08,949
I knew that the only place
697
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:13,288
to make real change happen
698
00:31:13,454 --> 00:31:17,250
That's what former NTSB member
699
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:20,127
And he said
700
00:31:20,128 --> 00:31:23,463
to this cockpit communication issue
701
00:31:23,464 --> 00:31:25,924
we could work together
702
00:31:25,925 --> 00:31:28,302
of lawmakers in Washington, D.C.
703
00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:30,930
This is some footage I've captured.
704
00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:33,808
These are real pilots.
705
00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:37,185
They're not saying
a single word to each other.
706
00:31:37,186 --> 00:31:38,478
Right. I see it all over.
707
00:31:38,479 --> 00:31:39,730
- You see it?
- Yeah.
708
00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:42,650
In my research, I'm finding out
all these pilots--
709
00:31:42,775 --> 00:31:44,443
there's all this time before the flight
710
00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:45,903
where they're hanging out
711
00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,488
in the pilot's lounge
or in different situations,
712
00:31:48,489 --> 00:31:50,073
and they're just sitting apart.
713
00:31:50,074 --> 00:31:52,035
Yep, I see that, too.
714
00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:53,493
- You do?
- Yes.
715
00:31:53,494 --> 00:31:57,956
So, I'm thinking it's less about,
you know, this critical moment
716
00:31:57,957 --> 00:31:59,791
where you might need
to take over the controls
717
00:31:59,792 --> 00:32:01,001
and assert yourself,
718
00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:04,380
and more about trying
to establish a relationship
719
00:32:04,714 --> 00:32:07,967
from the very start so there's no friction
720
00:32:08,259 --> 00:32:10,177
when an emergency actually happens.
721
00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:11,887
- Right, right.
- Does that make sense?
722
00:32:11,888 --> 00:32:13,097
That does make sense.
723
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:17,185
I don't think anybody's focused in
on that part of it. The--
724
00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:20,355
Most of the programs
have been focused in the cockpit,
725
00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:23,815
and they're not looking
outside the cockpit.
726
00:32:23,816 --> 00:32:25,484
And I think there's some low-hanging fruit
727
00:32:25,485 --> 00:32:26,653
outside the cockpit.
728
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:29,363
Why am I the only one talking about this?
729
00:32:29,364 --> 00:32:31,866
I don't think the airlines
730
00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:34,202
Congress can be motivated,
731
00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:40,041
but Congress is a difficult place
732
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,210
But I think you're onto something.
733
00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:45,004
Sorry, give me one sec here.
734
00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:55,515
Chairs don't move that easily, I guess.
735
00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:07,985
Amazing grace!
736
00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:12,699
How sweet the sound
737
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,199
Amazing grace!
738
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,452
I once was lost but now I'm found
739
00:33:17,453 --> 00:33:19,788
Was blind but now I see
740
00:33:19,789 --> 00:33:21,748
Amazing grace!
741
00:33:21,749 --> 00:33:24,127
I once was lost
742
00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:27,880
But now I'm found
743
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:34,137
Was blind but now I see
744
00:33:34,303 --> 00:33:37,598
Amazing grace
745
00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:40,518
How sweet the sound
746
00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:45,273
That saved a wretch like me
747
00:33:45,398 --> 00:33:46,774
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