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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:01,700 The views in this film are those of 2 00:00:01,700 --> 00:00:03,480 the speakers, not the producers. 3 00:00:04,340 --> 00:00:06,980 This documentary is for educational use only. 4 00:00:07,660 --> 00:00:09,600 No advice, no endorsement. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,320 If copyrighted material was used unintentionally... 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,160 it will be removed upon request. 7 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:58,880 Every click you make, every purchase... 8 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,340 every movement tracked, stored and analysed... 9 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:06,200 right now, your data is already being harvested. 10 00:01:06,940 --> 00:01:10,560 Your spending habits, your location, your online behaviour. 11 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,220 Feeding algorithms that predict and manipulate your actions. 12 00:01:16,420 --> 00:01:19,840 But the more data that's collected, the greater 13 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,420 the risk. 14 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,460 The moment this data is hacked, manipulated or 15 00:01:24,460 --> 00:01:26,040 used against you... 16 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,400 the consequences are irreversible. 17 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:34,880 One of your biggest fears is that your 18 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,420 contact information is on the street. 19 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,700 That's the case now, because it's become clear 20 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:39,880 that hackers... 21 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,240 have taken the data related to work of 22 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,020 all Dutch police officers... 23 00:01:44,740 --> 00:01:45,080 and made it public. 24 00:01:45,700 --> 00:01:54,080 Are you shocked by the data? 25 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:59,470 All e-mail information has been made public. 26 00:01:59,730 --> 00:02:02,210 Not the NAV data, but all e-mail 27 00:02:02,210 --> 00:02:02,570 data. 28 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:05,950 And that's extremely harmful. 29 00:02:06,290 --> 00:02:09,570 The Minister of Justice and Security and the 30 00:02:09,570 --> 00:02:10,009 police are also shocked. 31 00:02:10,009 --> 00:02:15,330 And that's really bad. 32 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:18,610 I've also noticed that the police are also 33 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:19,930 extremely anxious. 34 00:02:21,070 --> 00:02:23,250 The Minister of Justice and Security is also 35 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:23,850 working on it. 36 00:02:24,190 --> 00:02:27,610 But a complete list of people working for 37 00:02:27,610 --> 00:02:29,090 the police... 38 00:02:30,510 --> 00:02:35,130 including all government agencies where digital security is 39 00:02:35,130 --> 00:02:35,230 important... 40 00:02:35,230 --> 00:02:36,170 shouldn't have been allowed by the police. 41 00:02:38,090 --> 00:02:42,370 You can assume that almost all data about 42 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:44,090 you has been stored somewhere. 43 00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:48,390 Whether it's your medical data at the doctor's 44 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:51,030 office, your financial data at the bank... 45 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:53,570 or maybe advertisement preferences of all kinds of 46 00:02:53,570 --> 00:02:54,810 advertisers... 47 00:02:54,810 --> 00:02:57,690 they can now also use data from your 48 00:02:57,690 --> 00:02:59,450 friends and family members... 49 00:02:59,450 --> 00:03:01,710 to make shadow profiles of you. 50 00:03:02,130 --> 00:03:05,110 So what you see is that the holes 51 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:06,150 in the network of your data... 52 00:03:08,110 --> 00:03:12,230 can be extrapolated by the enormous web of 53 00:03:12,230 --> 00:03:14,430 data around it. 54 00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:17,930 So a lot of data has already been 55 00:03:17,930 --> 00:03:18,390 stored. 56 00:03:18,690 --> 00:03:21,570 And I don't think people realise how much 57 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:22,610 data is stored... 58 00:03:22,610 --> 00:03:24,790 and what can be done with it. 59 00:03:25,490 --> 00:03:28,430 A lot of people often argue that they 60 00:03:28,430 --> 00:03:29,930 have nothing to hide. 61 00:03:30,490 --> 00:03:32,390 That's a really bad argument. 62 00:03:32,910 --> 00:03:35,350 And you can't blame people for that. 63 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:37,250 Because it's quite abstract. 64 00:03:37,590 --> 00:03:40,150 People don't realise what's going on, what the 65 00:03:40,150 --> 00:03:41,850 consequences are, what the risks are. 66 00:03:42,430 --> 00:03:43,850 And I think that if there was a 67 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:45,990 bit more awareness about it... 68 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:49,510 people would realise that it's a lot scarier 69 00:03:49,510 --> 00:03:51,110 than they realise at the moment. 70 00:03:53,430 --> 00:03:55,550 The trend we've seen as Privacy First for 71 00:03:55,550 --> 00:03:57,030 years now... 72 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:59,470 is that there's more and more talk about 73 00:03:59,470 --> 00:04:02,530 increasingly large-scale data collection... 74 00:04:02,530 --> 00:04:06,670 and more and more linking data, databases... 75 00:04:06,670 --> 00:04:10,830 which is often used for profiling, profiling people. 76 00:04:11,590 --> 00:04:14,890 When you link data together, it often creates 77 00:04:14,890 --> 00:04:18,110 new information, new data about a person. 78 00:04:18,790 --> 00:04:21,050 And it can also be very sensitive information. 79 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:23,750 So sometimes you have different types of data, 80 00:04:23,870 --> 00:04:24,610 different databases... 81 00:04:25,370 --> 00:04:27,010 and apart from each other it sometimes looks 82 00:04:27,010 --> 00:04:28,530 like relatively innocent data. 83 00:04:28,530 --> 00:04:30,950 When you put it together, it can be 84 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:34,750 something about someone's daily life pattern... 85 00:04:34,750 --> 00:04:39,010 someone's hobbies and interests, or which doctor you're 86 00:04:39,010 --> 00:04:40,030 visiting... 87 00:04:40,030 --> 00:04:42,570 or possibly your medical condition. 88 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:45,850 Actually, your whole daily life is often just 89 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:47,150 transparent... 90 00:04:47,150 --> 00:04:50,510 through data, including financial transaction data. 91 00:04:56,030 --> 00:04:58,670 At this moment, what we read, what we 92 00:04:58,670 --> 00:05:00,490 see in the Western media... 93 00:05:00,490 --> 00:05:03,710 mainstream media especially, about China... 94 00:05:03,710 --> 00:05:07,370 doesn't show what is really happening in China. 95 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:11,090 I found out in 2018 that it was 96 00:05:11,090 --> 00:05:13,510 about 200 billion in the Netherlands... 97 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:15,450 and later I found out that it was 98 00:05:15,450 --> 00:05:17,590 about many more, thousands of billions. 99 00:05:18,470 --> 00:05:22,130 So I actually saw that book as a 100 00:05:22,130 --> 00:05:23,470 kind of life insurance. 101 00:05:23,930 --> 00:05:28,190 People, for example, are fleeing again for gold 102 00:05:28,190 --> 00:05:29,490 or bitcoin. 103 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:33,790 They're actually already witnessing this crisis of power. 104 00:05:34,330 --> 00:05:39,470 The institutions that have to take care of 105 00:05:39,470 --> 00:05:40,410 our money... 106 00:05:40,410 --> 00:05:43,770 and therefore the value of it... 107 00:05:43,770 --> 00:05:45,410 are actually neglecting us. 108 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:49,490 And that's exactly what they want. 109 00:05:49,810 --> 00:05:51,670 That you can no longer pay your groceries, 110 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:53,770 your rent, your mortgage... 111 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:54,890 and then you're desperate. 112 00:05:55,610 --> 00:05:56,770 But look at what's happening. 113 00:05:56,770 --> 00:05:59,130 If this continues as it is now... 114 00:05:59,130 --> 00:06:02,430 Europe is doomed to become a third world 115 00:06:02,430 --> 00:06:03,410 state. 116 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:05,550 This can't go on like this. 117 00:06:06,750 --> 00:06:09,450 And then they have you exactly where they 118 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:10,010 want you. 119 00:06:26,770 --> 00:06:27,650 It can be DCs. 120 00:06:28,250 --> 00:06:31,070 Financial transactions become part of that data web. 121 00:06:31,790 --> 00:06:35,450 When money is fully digital, every purchase, every 122 00:06:35,450 --> 00:06:36,570 donation... 123 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:39,970 every movement is visible and potentially controlled. 124 00:06:41,730 --> 00:06:46,630 Data leaks, algorithmic profiling, social credit systems. 125 00:06:47,170 --> 00:06:49,930 What happens when your digital footprint determines your 126 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:51,330 access to services... 127 00:06:51,330 --> 00:06:53,410 travel or even basic freedoms? 128 00:06:53,940 --> 00:06:55,990 The question is no longer who is watching, 129 00:06:56,610 --> 00:06:58,050 but who is in control. 130 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,260 The tech giant is accused of sacrificing privacy 131 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:05,180 for profits. 132 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,220 And now it's agreed to pay up for 133 00:07:07,220 --> 00:07:08,600 its alleged violations... 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,600 when it comes to Alexa and Ring doorbell 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,160 cameras. 136 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Amazon is now paying up. 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,900 Handing over more than $30 million in customer 138 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:18,000 refunds and fines... 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,460 accused of using Alexa and Ring doorbell cameras... 140 00:07:21,460 --> 00:07:23,760 to collect voice and video data on adults 141 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,360 and kids. 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Alexa, it's game day. 143 00:07:26,460 --> 00:07:28,140 Streaming football on Prime Video. 144 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,820 The Justice Department, on behalf of the FTC... 145 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:33,440 claiming that for years Amazon kept Alexa voice 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,360 recordings... 147 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,960 calling the practice unlawful. 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,980 According to the complaint, Amazon promises customers it 149 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:39,680 will delete... 150 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,360 In the US, there was a woman who 151 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,440 was constantly getting ads for baby stuff. 152 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:48,140 She wondered why that was, because she hadn't 153 00:07:48,140 --> 00:07:49,000 been looking for anything else. 154 00:07:49,140 --> 00:07:50,260 Or she had seen something in that trend. 155 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:53,220 And weeks later it turned out she was 156 00:07:53,220 --> 00:07:53,540 pregnant. 157 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:57,540 I sometimes hear from people around me... 158 00:07:57,540 --> 00:07:59,860 that I'm being eavesdropped on by big tech. 159 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,460 Because if I talk about something, it appears 160 00:08:02,460 --> 00:08:04,140 in all kinds of ads. 161 00:08:05,220 --> 00:08:07,340 What I'm saying is that I find it 162 00:08:07,340 --> 00:08:08,880 much more disturbing... 163 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,220 that so much data is collected about you 164 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:13,800 and such a complete profile can be made... 165 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,080 that they can reasonably predict what you're looking 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,320 for... 167 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,340 before you notice it yourself. 168 00:08:20,340 --> 00:08:22,820 And that's what happened to that woman in 169 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:23,540 the US. 170 00:08:23,980 --> 00:08:26,540 Before she knew she was pregnant, she already 171 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:27,140 knew the data. 172 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:29,660 Amazon, in this case, had collected so much 173 00:08:29,660 --> 00:08:31,600 data that they could predict it. 174 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,820 My name is Steven Dierks. 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,260 I'm an IT lawyer at Rechts en Robots. 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,820 Last year, I did a lot of work 177 00:08:38,820 --> 00:08:40,940 for the Ministry of Public Health. 178 00:08:41,580 --> 00:08:44,020 And specifically the CEBG, which I always see 179 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:46,240 as the IT organisation of VWS. 180 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:51,260 I mainly focus on privacy law, IT law, 181 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:54,040 intellectual property law and AI law. 182 00:08:57,390 --> 00:09:00,270 We live in an age where digitalisation is 183 00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:00,830 growing faster. 184 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:03,710 We also see that technological progress is growing 185 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:04,070 faster. 186 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:07,890 And that big tech companies are gaining more 187 00:09:07,890 --> 00:09:08,370 and more influence. 188 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:11,290 If you look at the influence of behaviour... 189 00:09:11,290 --> 00:09:15,070 we saw that with Cambridge Analytica in 2016, 190 00:09:15,330 --> 00:09:15,650 I believe. 191 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:19,610 They used data from voters, for example on 192 00:09:19,610 --> 00:09:20,270 Facebook... 193 00:09:20,270 --> 00:09:22,210 to show those ads, to show fake news, 194 00:09:22,810 --> 00:09:24,690 to direct them in a certain direction. 195 00:09:26,170 --> 00:09:28,890 And that's a really big danger. 196 00:10:22,180 --> 00:10:25,680 And those are all the consequences people don't 197 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:26,220 know about. 198 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:28,580 They can happen if you leave your data 199 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:29,340 behind. 200 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:30,580 And maybe you never hear about them, but 201 00:10:30,580 --> 00:10:30,680 they are going to keep them. 202 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:33,200 as an individual, a very small piece of 203 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,360 that puzzle, but of all those billions of 204 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,260 data points, of all the billions of people 205 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:41,820 around the world, such complete images and analyses 206 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:44,200 can be made that a whole group can 207 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:44,900 be sent in certain directions. 208 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Then you can get a normal person, who 209 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,480 may be well-read on a certain topic, 210 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,820 become more and more extremist, radicalised, and maybe 211 00:10:58,820 --> 00:11:01,920 even pushed into a certain political corner that 212 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,840 normally wouldn't be like that. 213 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:06,700 Every scroll, every like, and every time you 214 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:09,960 share or upload something, is analysed. 215 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Not only is it sold to advertisers, which 216 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,300 is what most people think, but also to 217 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:17,800 governments. 218 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,100 And now they can predict what you do. 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,620 So not only predict what you buy, where 220 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:28,640 you go, but also what you vote for, 221 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:30,920 and against what you demonstrate. 222 00:11:31,780 --> 00:11:33,200 And now it gets exciting. 223 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,940 If the government knows that you are going 224 00:11:36,940 --> 00:11:39,620 to demonstrate against certain things, you can already 225 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:44,120 see it in America, people who didn't listen 226 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,380 to the government, who didn't agree with the 227 00:11:46,380 --> 00:11:48,440 policy, their accounts were blocked. 228 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:51,900 They were dissuaded, their bank accounts were dissuaded. 229 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,220 They got a lot of questions. 230 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,140 It is, Maria, by invoking this Emergencies Act, 231 00:12:18,220 --> 00:12:20,340 which has never been used before in the 232 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:21,420 law's current form. 233 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,780 It gives the federal government sweeping powers, including 234 00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:28,600 providing local police with federal law enforcement resources. 235 00:12:29,020 --> 00:12:30,560 On top of that, you can see the 236 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:31,980 truckers are still here. 237 00:12:32,340 --> 00:12:36,000 It also gives the Canadian banks the ability 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,660 to freeze bank accounts without a warrant of 239 00:12:38,660 --> 00:12:42,620 anyone participating in this roadblock aid, as well 240 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:43,920 as anybody funding it. 241 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,780 And if trucks are blocking the road, they 242 00:12:46,780 --> 00:12:49,680 can suspend the insurance of those truckers. 243 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,360 On top of that, this will expand the 244 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,860 scope of money laundering and terrorist financing laws 245 00:12:55,860 --> 00:12:59,220 to include and to cover crowdfunding sites like 246 00:12:59,220 --> 00:13:02,200 GiveSendGo, where donations of millions of dollars have 247 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,700 been pouring in from all over the world, 248 00:13:04,860 --> 00:13:07,320 including the United States and much of it 249 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,000 from Canada. 250 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,580 And so GiveSendGo has ignored a court order 251 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:14,460 and provided truckers, they say, with some of 252 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:14,920 the money. 253 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:19,060 But this will now potentially prevent that from 254 00:13:19,060 --> 00:13:19,480 happening. 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,320 My name is Rabi Atli. 256 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,980 I have worked for years at various financial 257 00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:31,880 institutions such as ABN Amro, Rabobank, Deloitte, Saxo 258 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Bank and Robeco as a laundry and tax 259 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,080 investigation specialist. 260 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,740 In my time here, I have seen a 261 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:42,160 lot of how financial institutions work, how laundering 262 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,360 works, how tax evasion works, and especially how 263 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,960 the monetary system looks on the inside and 264 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,500 on the outside. 265 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,300 Under the banner of emergency powers, donations became 266 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:09,780 threats. 267 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,240 Dissent became financial risk. 268 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:14,580 It was a warning shot to the world. 269 00:14:15,140 --> 00:14:17,720 What happens when digital money and digital surveillance 270 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,680 become one? 271 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,140 One of the moments when I really saw 272 00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:26,000 how much power financial institutions have was during 273 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,160 the plan de mille. 274 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,700 But it's for my safety. 275 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,360 I'm not doing anything wrong, am I? 276 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:33,080 That's the most dangerous sentence. 277 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,720 Every dictatorship, every tyranny started to ensure your 278 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,220 safety. 279 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,100 First, you had to give up your freedom 280 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,860 for terrorism. 281 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,980 Then, for a virus. 282 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,060 Immediately, for CO2. 283 00:14:52,820 --> 00:14:55,400 And in the end, the government has all 284 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,240 the control. 285 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,900 With a digital euro and a digital ID, 286 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:07,920 they can convert all this data into... 287 00:15:09,550 --> 00:15:11,010 This happens, for example, in China. 288 00:15:11,730 --> 00:15:14,750 If you drink too much alcohol there, you're 289 00:15:14,750 --> 00:15:15,890 not allowed to travel with the public transport. 290 00:15:16,650 --> 00:15:18,690 If you do certain things that are not 291 00:15:18,690 --> 00:15:21,390 allowed by the government, they take other things 292 00:15:21,390 --> 00:15:21,710 from you. 293 00:15:23,470 --> 00:15:24,810 We've seen that in Europe as well. 294 00:15:25,870 --> 00:15:30,430 If you didn't have a stamp, you didn't 295 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:30,930 have a QR. 296 00:15:31,550 --> 00:15:34,890 But they can do that to the extreme. 297 00:15:35,570 --> 00:15:37,970 In Europe, this all seems more subtle. 298 00:15:38,930 --> 00:15:41,250 With laws like the Digital Service Act and 299 00:15:41,250 --> 00:15:44,690 the AI Act, Europe is much more subtle. 300 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:49,970 It's not about violence, but about an algorithm. 301 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:53,230 Try talking to a chatbot when your account 302 00:15:53,230 --> 00:15:55,870 is blocked or you can't log in somewhere. 303 00:15:58,350 --> 00:16:00,190 Maybe you've done that before, but it doesn't 304 00:16:00,190 --> 00:16:00,370 work. 305 00:16:01,130 --> 00:16:04,650 And what if the government puts everything in 306 00:16:04,650 --> 00:16:05,210 algorithms? 307 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:06,830 You can't get in touch with the municipality. 308 00:16:08,650 --> 00:16:10,270 You have to talk to chatbots. 309 00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:13,330 Then everything suddenly becomes very black and white. 310 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:16,750 And with a digital ID and a digital 311 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:19,270 euro, everything can be blocked as soon as 312 00:16:19,270 --> 00:16:20,170 you do something. 313 00:16:21,210 --> 00:16:24,660 And nobody does that, right? 314 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,500 It's an algorithm that's set up. 315 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,680 So try fighting an algorithm. 316 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,670 If you say you have nothing to hide, 317 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:36,190 you say, OK, I don't do anything that's 318 00:16:36,190 --> 00:16:39,170 illegal, so everybody can know everything. 319 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:42,010 Well, that's a pretty bad argument anyway. 320 00:16:42,250 --> 00:16:44,310 Because we've seen that over the years, some 321 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:47,790 things can become illegal that weren't before. 322 00:16:48,010 --> 00:16:49,690 And then it could be that the information 323 00:16:49,690 --> 00:16:52,230 you had, which at that moment was just 324 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:56,890 legal, fair, normal, suddenly causes a problem. 325 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,140 It wasn't just products that flowed in. 326 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,339 It was people. 327 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Engineers. 328 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:26,900 Entrepreneurs. 329 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Trained in Silicon Valley. 330 00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:31,560 And they came back, not just to copy 331 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,940 the West, but to build something far more 332 00:17:33,940 --> 00:17:34,400 powerful. 333 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,520 In 1994, China officially connected to the internet. 334 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,540 So that started the Chinese development of the 335 00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:46,800 internet. 336 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,200 Of course, China started this by really copying 337 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,400 the Western digital development. 338 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,920 Many of the Chinese tech company founders, they 339 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,280 studied in the US, in Silicon Valley, and 340 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,320 they had experience in the United States. 341 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:07,120 And they brought those technologies back to China, 342 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:08,580 or those business formats. 343 00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:13,900 So that also drives domestic development. 344 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,100 The famous ex-CEO of China, Kai-Fu 345 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:22,360 Lee, once said in his book that if 346 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:26,860 the US tech founders are mission-driven, then 347 00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:29,920 the Chinese tech founders are market-driven. 348 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,460 And China is a huge country. 349 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,900 It has one time zone. 350 00:18:35,260 --> 00:18:36,740 It has one language. 351 00:18:37,180 --> 00:18:38,460 It has a huge population. 352 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:41,800 So you have a big market to really 353 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,380 exercise and practice. 354 00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:47,080 And try all kinds of business models. 355 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,440 In China, because of the online shopping and 356 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,400 e-commerce, has developed to a very next 357 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:55,800 level. 358 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,280 But at the same time, I think consumers 359 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,680 started to worry that, okay, I'm constantly driven 360 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,160 by the platform. 361 00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:09,080 And a few years ago, when I was 362 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,180 discussing this with a Chinese colleague of mine 363 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:16,640 in China, we talked about how Chinese e 364 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,160 -commerce is developing. 365 00:19:18,780 --> 00:19:20,800 And then that colleague of mine said, yeah, 366 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:23,520 you have to be careful, because the platform 367 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800 is listening to you. 368 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:29,300 So there are already concerns from users about, 369 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,120 okay, the data ownership, who has the say. 370 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,320 And of course, this also leads to overconsumption 371 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,760 concern. 372 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,260 China became the world's largest test environment. 373 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,120 New digital tools, new financial systems, rolled out 374 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,800 in real time, tested live on hundreds of 375 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,720 millions of users. 376 00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:52,160 Everything here is platform-driven. 377 00:19:52,660 --> 00:19:56,060 Transport, communication, payments, even identity. 378 00:19:56,860 --> 00:19:59,720 And while these platforms may look domestic, the 379 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,840 truth is far more global. 380 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,120 Tech giants like Alibaba, ByteDance and Tencent aren't 381 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:08,800 just Chinese success stories. 382 00:20:09,340 --> 00:20:12,080 They're backed by capital from Wall Street to 383 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:12,440 Singapore. 384 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:15,300 This isn't just Chinese innovation. 385 00:20:15,820 --> 00:20:19,120 It's global infrastructure with Chinese characteristics. 386 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,700 And yes, people are aware. 387 00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:24,380 These systems watch, and they listen. 388 00:20:25,740 --> 00:20:28,820 Would you let artificial intelligence spend your hard 389 00:20:28,820 --> 00:20:29,800 -earned money for you? 390 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,860 Visa announced it's enabling artificial intelligence to find 391 00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:35,980 and buy products for its customers. 392 00:20:36,620 --> 00:20:39,160 Mastercard made a similar announcement Tuesday. 393 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,700 Consumers can still set guardrails and preferences, but 394 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:46,240 both Mastercard and Visa say their AI can 395 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,240 select items and make online purchases themselves. 396 00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:50,580 And that's not all. 397 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:53,780 Amazon is also testing its own AI shopping 398 00:20:53,780 --> 00:20:54,220 agent. 399 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:56,620 Now what our product teams have done is 400 00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:58,400 used AI to empower consumers. 401 00:20:58,660 --> 00:21:01,280 Empower consumers to have more effective and efficient 402 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,420 shopping experiences, to be able to work with 403 00:21:04,420 --> 00:21:06,740 your agent, whether you're going to go, you 404 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:07,840 need a new set of tennis shoes to 405 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,280 run a marathon, or you're going to buy 406 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,640 a Mother's Day gift, which is coming up 407 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,700 in a week or two. 408 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,660 Your agent will be able to go do 409 00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:14,500 that on your behalf. 410 00:21:14,860 --> 00:21:17,320 But for that to work, your agent needs 411 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,740 the tools to do that. 412 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:20,320 And we announced a lot of tools today 413 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,680 that are going to make the payments work. 414 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,280 And you need trust. 415 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:27,120 All they want is you constantly shop on 416 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:27,320 it. 417 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:30,820 They will promote certain products to you. 418 00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:34,820 In China, you have two major payment systems. 419 00:21:35,540 --> 00:21:36,580 One is Alipay. 420 00:21:36,980 --> 00:21:39,300 The other is WeChat Pay. 421 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:42,160 So Alipay is very straightforward. 422 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,520 It's linked to Alibaba. 423 00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:46,880 So Alibaba is a tech giant in China. 424 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:50,880 And up to now, Alibaba and Tencent, they 425 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,840 are not a Chinese company anymore. 426 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,780 They are a shareholding company because they have 427 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:59,920 a lot of business branches all over the 428 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:00,140 world. 429 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:02,640 They are a multinational company. 430 00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:06,080 So we cannot just simply see them as 431 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080 a Chinese company in China. 432 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:10,660 So all in all, you can see more 433 00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:14,180 and more influence or control from the central 434 00:22:14,180 --> 00:22:17,620 government on those private sectors. 435 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,480 Chinese digital economy that created a lot of 436 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,920 profits, prosperity and gains. 437 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:29,720 But at the same time, we should definitely 438 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,680 see the dark side of platform businesses because 439 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,540 they also give an alarming lesson to the 440 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:38,340 rest of the world. 441 00:22:41,790 --> 00:22:44,430 In the West, we often look at China 442 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:45,070 with caution. 443 00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:48,910 But quietly, we are building our own version. 444 00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:51,710 Big tech is no longer just shaping what 445 00:22:51,710 --> 00:22:52,190 we see. 446 00:22:52,690 --> 00:22:54,670 It's starting to shape how we spend. 447 00:22:56,510 --> 00:22:58,930 Visa has now introduced an AI that can 448 00:22:58,930 --> 00:23:00,550 make purchases on your behalf. 449 00:23:00,550 --> 00:23:03,590 It learns from your habits, follows your budget 450 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:06,490 and makes decisions without you lifting a finger. 451 00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:11,090 It's marketed as convenient, effortless, smart. 452 00:23:11,490 --> 00:23:13,810 But every automatic payment is more data. 453 00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:16,790 Every decision you surrender is one more step 454 00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:17,770 away from control. 455 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:20,810 And while private companies blur the line between 456 00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:24,290 assistance and automation, governments are watching closely. 457 00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:27,610 In Europe, plans are underway for a central 458 00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:31,370 bank digital currency, a digital euro, promoted as 459 00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:33,050 safe, efficient, modern. 460 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:36,150 But ask yourself, who controls the rails? 461 00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:39,830 Because if your identity, your behavior and your 462 00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:42,910 payments all run through a single system, then 463 00:23:42,910 --> 00:23:44,950 money is no longer a tool of freedom, 464 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:46,230 but of permission. 465 00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:53,720 I work as a lawyer. 466 00:23:54,020 --> 00:23:57,200 And in 2012, a client approached me with 467 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,000 a so-called interest swap. 468 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,180 That's a complex product. 469 00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:04,500 And that product, well, he got smeared, I 470 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,880 would almost say, by his bank. 471 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,140 There seems to be a very big international 472 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:10,240 fraud behind it. 473 00:24:11,060 --> 00:24:13,960 And that fraud I eventually exposed in my 474 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,540 book. 475 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,840 If we're going to put all our trust 476 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,390 in a digital currency controlled by central institutions, 477 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:25,600 we should first ask, have those institutions earned 478 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,220 our trust? 479 00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:29,840 Because behind the scenes of Europe's most respected 480 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,560 banks there are stories of deception, risk shifting 481 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,180 and regulatory failure. 482 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,540 One of the people who saw this from 483 00:24:37,540 --> 00:24:40,100 the inside is Hester Bees. 484 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:46,580 The product my client got was a non 485 00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:47,680 -trade product. 486 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,040 OTC derivatives, that's what they call it in 487 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080 the professional world. 488 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,860 And the bank had thought of something for 489 00:24:56,860 --> 00:24:57,120 that. 490 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,120 Because the client came to the bank for 491 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:00,740 financing. 492 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:03,180 He got this complex product. 493 00:25:03,580 --> 00:25:05,900 So the bank couldn't say, well, are you 494 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:07,960 going to give me a base for the 495 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,760 trade in this complex product? 496 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:12,180 Because the client came for financing. 497 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,780 So he just wanted money from the bank. 498 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,300 Well, to comply with those rules, banks, without 499 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:21,760 the client knowing or understanding that, borrowed money 500 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,780 on a bank account, on a blocked bank 501 00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:27,760 account, in the name of the client. 502 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:31,020 And that as a base was blocked on 503 00:25:31,020 --> 00:25:32,140 that client's account. 504 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,500 As if he was trading in those derivatives. 505 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:40,420 And that base cost this client 700,000 506 00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:40,720 euros. 507 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,100 And that was increased over time when the 508 00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:48,620 client closed this product to 1.3 million. 509 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:51,640 Which he actually got from an extra financing 510 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,440 from the bank without him knowing. 511 00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:56,360 So that 1.3 million had influence on 512 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:00,780 the client's debitory position and therefore also at 513 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:04,440 the height of his interest the liquidity deposit. 514 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720 And what surprised me, at the beginning of 515 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,000 2013 the bank received, or sent the bank 516 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,440 suddenly to the client bank receipts. 517 00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:17,620 And they had never done that before for 518 00:26:17,620 --> 00:26:18,800 this complex product. 519 00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:21,920 So the client sends that directly to his 520 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,300 lawyer. 521 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,120 And I look at that. 522 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,540 And I think, yes, I actually discovered that 523 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:30,080 the deposit accounts that the bank had administered 524 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,740 until 2013 were no longer on the bank 525 00:26:35,740 --> 00:26:36,080 receipts. 526 00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:39,720 Well, and that is fraud. 527 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,260 You can ask yourself whether it is fraud 528 00:26:42,260 --> 00:26:44,500 that the bank first booked those deposit accounts 529 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,900 because the client did not deposit high liquidity 530 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:49,080 deposits at all. 531 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:49,760 He did not deposit money. 532 00:26:50,180 --> 00:26:52,060 The bank had just borrowed that with a 533 00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:52,540 credit line. 534 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,680 And then this bank removed it in 2013. 535 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,760 At that time, it was not about a 536 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,360 very large amount in the financial world. 537 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,560 It was about this client who had received 538 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,020 an increase in interest and the damage he 539 00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:10,480 had suffered was about 7.5 tons. 540 00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:13,140 And that file was so full of abuses 541 00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:15,420 and was so in conflict with all the 542 00:27:15,420 --> 00:27:17,880 rules that I normally as a client, as 543 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,640 a lawyer advise about. 544 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:22,880 That I thought, yes, this will be actually 545 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,840 an egg. 546 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,740 We go to that bank and I was 547 00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:28,840 actually convinced that that bank would want to 548 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,880 steal this because it was such a bad 549 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,560 file, so to speak, for the bank. 550 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,220 But because the bank's lawyers with such a 551 00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:41,680 straight leg and so intimidating, yes, that I 552 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520 really thought, okay, what's going on here? 553 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,070 I actually became suspicious and they made me 554 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,260 curious that I thought, God, this is very 555 00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:55,380 serious why are they doing this? 556 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,940 Why are those lawyers and that bank so 557 00:27:58,940 --> 00:28:01,340 intimidating and why are they going in here 558 00:28:01,340 --> 00:28:02,480 with such a straight leg? 559 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,120 And that actually aroused my curiosity even more 560 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,260 so that I went even deeper into those 561 00:28:09,260 --> 00:28:09,580 files. 562 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,280 And yes, well, that eventually led to that 563 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,460 I found out that this liquidity problem, this 564 00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:23,800 liquidity shortage, this substantial shortage for this product, 565 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,860 OTC derivatives, in the Netherlands was 200 billion. 566 00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:33,100 And that 200 billion turns out to be 567 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,160 much larger And that is in, I have 568 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,540 in 2016 in a document from the Korean 569 00:28:40,540 --> 00:28:44,860 Institute of Finance read that in Europe it 570 00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:48,920 is about 3,500 billion euros and that 571 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,340 it is worldwide about 41 billion euros. 572 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,880 And the biggest problem is, and that is 573 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,420 really the biggest scandal that is going to 574 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:01,560 come out is that they have used the 575 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,500 pension funds to, that substantial shortage of 200 576 00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:08,140 billion to temporarily borrow that from the pension 577 00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:08,300 fund. 578 00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:11,860 So that is of incredibly great importance and 579 00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:14,520 yes, when I found out I had to 580 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,400 swallow because then I understood that I was 581 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,400 much bigger yes, secretly on the trail and 582 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,740 that I that yes, possibly myself would also 583 00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:24,640 be in danger of that. 584 00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:55,200 What you see is that the financial system 585 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,700 which is thus evidenced with the worst bank 586 00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:02,280 scenario that that yes, completely in blockchain will 587 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600 take place and that that actually the base 588 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,820 of that system is in the hands of 589 00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:12,960 a few large parties the business banks, the 590 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,380 asset managers and their regulators and in my 591 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:20,980 eyes those central banks actually in recent decades 592 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,660 infiltrated by these people who therefore actually pursue 593 00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:28,500 the own interest of those banks and asset 594 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:32,480 managers and what you see is that their 595 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,440 ultimate goal is that global liquidity and that 596 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,080 control over that citizen, over that consumer. 597 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,740 The retail CBDC, which now has a lot 598 00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:47,140 to do yes, the closing of the system 599 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:50,400 in my eyes that is not even the 600 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,200 most worrisome. 601 00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:54,800 The worrisome is that it can lead to 602 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,920 that the system is closed, that it becomes 603 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,180 a closed system so that citizens can no 604 00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:03,060 longer have cash or outside that system for 605 00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:07,560 example can trade with bitcoin by only allowing 606 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,620 bitcoin via license-holding companies. 607 00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:14,480 So actually that everything will be fixed between 608 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,600 intermediaries to control the behavior of those consumers 609 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,920 to monitor and eventually also to limit. 610 00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:24,960 Yes, I think especially that the acceleration that 611 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,620 has taken place in that technology and that 612 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:32,020 that lack of liquidity in that system by 613 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:36,200 reusing all those assets and also centralizing all 614 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,140 those assets is a much bigger danger. 615 00:31:39,260 --> 00:31:42,160 In China, technology became infrastructure. 616 00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:47,120 Payments, transport, identity, all merged into one seamless 617 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,180 trackable platform. 618 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,700 Now that model is spreading. 619 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,760 In the West, Visa has launched AI that 620 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,200 spends on your behalf deciding what you buy, 621 00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:57,320 when, and how. 622 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,480 All in the name of convenience. 623 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Meanwhile, global banks face a familiar crisis. 624 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Massive collateral shortfalls, hidden risks, shrinking trust. 625 00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:10,040 The solution now offered? 626 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,520 A central bank digital currency. 627 00:32:13,420 --> 00:32:14,320 A new kind of money. 628 00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:16,500 Coded, controlled, and programmable. 629 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,720 Sold as stability. 630 00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:21,040 But when the same institutions that failed to 631 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,780 protect the old system are building the new 632 00:32:22,780 --> 00:32:24,940 one, what exactly are we walking into? 633 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:30,200 Eventually, we had to go back to the 634 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,540 basics. 635 00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:31,960 Why did money ever exist? 636 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,800 In the past, we had to trade. 637 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,760 Milk against eggs, stones, shells, kilos of gold. 638 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:41,500 And then, money was discovered. 639 00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:44,160 With money, you can move things more easily. 640 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,900 Very simple. 641 00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:49,920 But the money we have now, with banks, 642 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:53,940 with crypto, and with cash, it works. 643 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,860 Everyone sees that it works. 644 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,640 No one feels the urgency. 645 00:32:57,860 --> 00:33:00,180 No one feels that we really need a 646 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:02,260 digital euro, a digital dollar. 647 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Only the system that wants control on you. 648 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,860 Isn't that funny? 649 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,940 No one wants this. 650 00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:26,320 We live in a world where 651 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:36,420 everyone wants 652 00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:37,960 to have a digital euro. 653 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,100 We live in a world wants to have 654 00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:42,200 a digital euro. 655 00:33:48,020 --> 00:33:49,820 We live in a world a digital euro. 656 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,900 We live in a world where everyone a 657 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:52,060 digital euro. 658 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,000 We live a digital euro. 659 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:03,960 We live wants to have We live in 660 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,160 a world a digital euro. 661 00:34:10,860 --> 00:34:12,620 We live in a world a digital euro. 662 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,699 We live in a world a digital euro. 663 00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,900 what they are going to do, you also 664 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:22,400 have to spend it within a certain time 665 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,120 limit. 666 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,199 Look, with cash money you can save. 667 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:27,480 What does that mean? 668 00:34:28,060 --> 00:34:31,000 You can save six months and if your 669 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,360 employer does something you don't like, you can 670 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,260 say, you know what, I don't work for 671 00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:36,440 you anymore. 672 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,920 I don't have a job anymore, but you 673 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,960 can at least go on for six months. 674 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,679 You have a little more autonomy and you 675 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,199 have a bigger mouth, you dare to do 676 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:46,299 something. 677 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,800 But if you don't have a savings account, 678 00:34:50,219 --> 00:34:52,980 all the money you earn, you have to 679 00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:54,880 spend it directly, you can't get by much 680 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,380 faster for yourself, because you can't pay your 681 00:34:57,380 --> 00:35:00,480 rent, your mortgage, don't feed your children, so 682 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,420 you have to lower your head and listen. 683 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,060 But a promise is only as strong as 684 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:17,380 the pressure not to break it. 685 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,680 In Canada, peaceful protesters saw their bank accounts 686 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,180 frozen without a trial. 687 00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:27,660 In the Netherlands, political leaders publicly suggested cutting 688 00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:30,460 benefits for parents who refused to vaccinate. 689 00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,740 The line between public health and personal control 690 00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:35,320 proved razor thin. 691 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:38,320 So what happens when money becomes code? 692 00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:41,660 Who decides what's allowed, what's delayed, what's denied? 693 00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:45,420 You now see almost a kind of perfect 694 00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:50,320 storm, which, one, indicates that our monetary system 695 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,940 is coming to an end. 696 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:54,420 And there are still one or two rabbits 697 00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:56,980 in the haystack by central bankers. 698 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,360 Think, for example, of a central bank digital 699 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,440 currency and financial repression. 700 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,480 There are all kinds of interests. 701 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,860 Those interests are gigantic. 702 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,480 Many billions involved are involved in the implementation 703 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,900 of a central bank digital currency, but also 704 00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:15,560 in preserving the status quo. 705 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,860 By the way, preserving the status quo is 706 00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:18,960 not without victims. 707 00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:22,220 We see that in reality, with the more 708 00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:25,720 expensive words of messages, with higher bills, with 709 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,120 the ever-increasing gap between the poor and 710 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,360 the rich. 711 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,240 What I always refer to in my book 712 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,380 as corruption and ambition, are all signs of 713 00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:38,840 the failure of this monetary system. 714 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,780 In the end, it is inevitable that it 715 00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:42,120 will happen. 716 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,100 We will have to start again at some 717 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:44,440 point. 718 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,680 And the powerholders, or at least the policy 719 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,940 makers, the governments and now central banks, are 720 00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:55,460 trying to get ahead of this by introducing 721 00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:56,900 a central bank digital currency. 722 00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:58,120 But what they are doing with it is 723 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,440 that the current system is still a little 724 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,520 bit left to wriggle, you could say, before 725 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,240 it eventually has to die. 726 00:37:28,210 --> 00:37:31,350 It's a framework, not designed to restore stability, 727 00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:33,170 but to control the collapse. 728 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:37,230 To contain a crisis by managing you. 729 00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:39,270 If we want to sketch an image of 730 00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:41,690 what the end of this monetary system will 731 00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:44,530 look like, then it is not necessarily an 732 00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:45,010 explosion. 733 00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:47,790 I think it's more of a candle that 734 00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:49,390 slowly but surely burns. 735 00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:51,630 And it's not about shocks. 736 00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:52,330 There will be shocks. 737 00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:55,450 But it's much more of a closing process. 738 00:37:55,450 --> 00:37:56,670 And we can already see that closing process 739 00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:58,490 very well. 740 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:01,410 Namely, it is a process of a slow 741 00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:05,050 but certain reduction of one purchasing power of 742 00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:07,370 the currency, but also in relation to, for 743 00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:08,970 example, our first need for life. 744 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,540 In Roman times, we see at a good 745 00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:21,680 moment that there is a huge expansion of 746 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,120 the number of slaves. 747 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480 And now you can think, well, that has 748 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,360 everything to do with the fact that they 749 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,560 are going to take the work out of 750 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,260 their hands. 751 00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:36,420 Whether it's about housing or agriculture, whatever. 752 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,260 That is of course the case. 753 00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:41,960 But another important reason for keeping slaves was 754 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,140 that they represented capital. 755 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,860 In fact, it was actually money. 756 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,240 You could pay with your slaves. 757 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,200 And you also kept slaves in order to 758 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,420 have a lot of capital in that way. 759 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,600 In short, they actually became a means of 760 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:58,880 payment. 761 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,980 And one of the reasons why in Rome 762 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:07,360 the number of slaves also expanded or increased 763 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,720 was precisely because people needed extra capital to 764 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,980 let the economy grow in that way. 765 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,300 And that one is extremely critical of all 766 00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:22,060 kinds of attempts that are now being made 767 00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:24,340 to actually put the freedom of the citizen 768 00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:26,300 on the line. 769 00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:31,320 Because one feels somewhere that that implies that 770 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,640 indeed this wizard, this fist, will also master 771 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,240 your property. 772 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,660 And with that, in fact, you will end 773 00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:44,360 up in a position of expropriation or maybe 774 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,460 even of slavery again. 775 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:53,540 And that is a kind of roundabout in 776 00:39:53,540 --> 00:39:54,480 which we may end up in a very 777 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,420 strange way, in a different way than the 778 00:39:57,420 --> 00:40:00,560 Greeks of that time, in a situation of 779 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,420 debt slavery. 780 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,560 Whether it comes to that, the future will 781 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,080 have to show. 782 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:17,700 You have to ask yourself. 783 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,760 Freedom is not something you automatically get. 784 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,560 You have to protect it. 785 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,860 And you do that by understanding how power 786 00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:26,940 and a structure work. 787 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,180 This is not a criticism of the Netherlands. 788 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:32,620 This is a call to maturity for you. 55649

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