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the speakers, not the producers.
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This documentary is for educational use only.
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No advice, no endorsement.
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If copyrighted material was used unintentionally...
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it will be removed upon request.
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Every click you make, every purchase...
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every movement tracked, stored and analysed...
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right now, your data is already being harvested.
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Your spending habits, your location, your online behaviour.
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Feeding algorithms that predict and manipulate your actions.
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But the more data that's collected, the greater
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the risk.
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The moment this data is hacked, manipulated or
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used against you...
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the consequences are irreversible.
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One of your biggest fears is that your
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contact information is on the street.
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That's the case now, because it's become clear
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that hackers...
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have taken the data related to work of
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all Dutch police officers...
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and made it public.
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Are you shocked by the data?
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All e-mail information has been made public.
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Not the NAV data, but all e-mail
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data.
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And that's extremely harmful.
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The Minister of Justice and Security and the
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police are also shocked.
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And that's really bad.
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I've also noticed that the police are also
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extremely anxious.
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The Minister of Justice and Security is also
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working on it.
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But a complete list of people working for
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the police...
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including all government agencies where digital security is
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important...
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shouldn't have been allowed by the police.
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You can assume that almost all data about
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you has been stored somewhere.
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Whether it's your medical data at the doctor's
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office, your financial data at the bank...
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or maybe advertisement preferences of all kinds of
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advertisers...
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they can now also use data from your
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friends and family members...
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to make shadow profiles of you.
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So what you see is that the holes
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in the network of your data...
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can be extrapolated by the enormous web of
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data around it.
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So a lot of data has already been
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stored.
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And I don't think people realise how much
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data is stored...
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and what can be done with it.
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A lot of people often argue that they
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have nothing to hide.
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That's a really bad argument.
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And you can't blame people for that.
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Because it's quite abstract.
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People don't realise what's going on, what the
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consequences are, what the risks are.
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And I think that if there was a
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bit more awareness about it...
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people would realise that it's a lot scarier
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than they realise at the moment.
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The trend we've seen as Privacy First for
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years now...
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is that there's more and more talk about
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increasingly large-scale data collection...
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and more and more linking data, databases...
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which is often used for profiling, profiling people.
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When you link data together, it often creates
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new information, new data about a person.
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And it can also be very sensitive information.
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So sometimes you have different types of data,
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different databases...
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and apart from each other it sometimes looks
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like relatively innocent data.
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When you put it together, it can be
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something about someone's daily life pattern...
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someone's hobbies and interests, or which doctor you're
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visiting...
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or possibly your medical condition.
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Actually, your whole daily life is often just
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transparent...
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through data, including financial transaction data.
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At this moment, what we read, what we
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see in the Western media...
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mainstream media especially, about China...
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doesn't show what is really happening in China.
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I found out in 2018 that it was
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about 200 billion in the Netherlands...
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and later I found out that it was
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about many more, thousands of billions.
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So I actually saw that book as a
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kind of life insurance.
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People, for example, are fleeing again for gold
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or bitcoin.
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They're actually already witnessing this crisis of power.
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The institutions that have to take care of
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our money...
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and therefore the value of it...
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are actually neglecting us.
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And that's exactly what they want.
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That you can no longer pay your groceries,
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your rent, your mortgage...
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and then you're desperate.
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But look at what's happening.
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If this continues as it is now...
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Europe is doomed to become a third world
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state.
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This can't go on like this.
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And then they have you exactly where they
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want you.
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It can be DCs.
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Financial transactions become part of that data web.
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When money is fully digital, every purchase, every
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donation...
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every movement is visible and potentially controlled.
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Data leaks, algorithmic profiling, social credit systems.
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What happens when your digital footprint determines your
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access to services...
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travel or even basic freedoms?
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The question is no longer who is watching,
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but who is in control.
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The tech giant is accused of sacrificing privacy
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for profits.
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And now it's agreed to pay up for
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its alleged violations...
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when it comes to Alexa and Ring doorbell
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cameras.
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Amazon is now paying up.
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Handing over more than $30 million in customer
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refunds and fines...
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accused of using Alexa and Ring doorbell cameras...
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to collect voice and video data on adults
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and kids.
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Alexa, it's game day.
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Streaming football on Prime Video.
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The Justice Department, on behalf of the FTC...
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claiming that for years Amazon kept Alexa voice
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recordings...
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calling the practice unlawful.
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According to the complaint, Amazon promises customers it
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will delete...
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In the US, there was a woman who
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was constantly getting ads for baby stuff.
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She wondered why that was, because she hadn't
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been looking for anything else.
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Or she had seen something in that trend.
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And weeks later it turned out she was
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pregnant.
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I sometimes hear from people around me...
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that I'm being eavesdropped on by big tech.
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Because if I talk about something, it appears
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in all kinds of ads.
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What I'm saying is that I find it
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much more disturbing...
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that so much data is collected about you
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and such a complete profile can be made...
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that they can reasonably predict what you're looking
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for...
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before you notice it yourself.
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And that's what happened to that woman in
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the US.
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Before she knew she was pregnant, she already
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knew the data.
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Amazon, in this case, had collected so much
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data that they could predict it.
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My name is Steven Dierks.
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I'm an IT lawyer at Rechts en Robots.
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Last year, I did a lot of work
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for the Ministry of Public Health.
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And specifically the CEBG, which I always see
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as the IT organisation of VWS.
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I mainly focus on privacy law, IT law,
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intellectual property law and AI law.
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We live in an age where digitalisation is
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growing faster.
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We also see that technological progress is growing
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faster.
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And that big tech companies are gaining more
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and more influence.
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If you look at the influence of behaviour...
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we saw that with Cambridge Analytica in 2016,
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I believe.
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They used data from voters, for example on
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Facebook...
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to show those ads, to show fake news,
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to direct them in a certain direction.
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And that's a really big danger.
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And those are all the consequences people don't
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know about.
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They can happen if you leave your data
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behind.
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And maybe you never hear about them, but
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they are going to keep them.
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as an individual, a very small piece of
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that puzzle, but of all those billions of
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data points, of all the billions of people
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around the world, such complete images and analyses
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can be made that a whole group can
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be sent in certain directions.
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Then you can get a normal person, who
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may be well-read on a certain topic,
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become more and more extremist, radicalised, and maybe
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even pushed into a certain political corner that
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normally wouldn't be like that.
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Every scroll, every like, and every time you
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share or upload something, is analysed.
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Not only is it sold to advertisers, which
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is what most people think, but also to
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governments.
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And now they can predict what you do.
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So not only predict what you buy, where
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you go, but also what you vote for,
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and against what you demonstrate.
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And now it gets exciting.
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If the government knows that you are going
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to demonstrate against certain things, you can already
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see it in America, people who didn't listen
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to the government, who didn't agree with the
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policy, their accounts were blocked.
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They were dissuaded, their bank accounts were dissuaded.
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They got a lot of questions.
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It is, Maria, by invoking this Emergencies Act,
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which has never been used before in the
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law's current form.
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It gives the federal government sweeping powers, including
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providing local police with federal law enforcement resources.
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On top of that, you can see the
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truckers are still here.
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It also gives the Canadian banks the ability
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to freeze bank accounts without a warrant of
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anyone participating in this roadblock aid, as well
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as anybody funding it.
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And if trucks are blocking the road, they
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can suspend the insurance of those truckers.
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On top of that, this will expand the
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scope of money laundering and terrorist financing laws
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to include and to cover crowdfunding sites like
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GiveSendGo, where donations of millions of dollars have
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been pouring in from all over the world,
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including the United States and much of it
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from Canada.
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And so GiveSendGo has ignored a court order
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and provided truckers, they say, with some of
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the money.
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But this will now potentially prevent that from
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happening.
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My name is Rabi Atli.
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I have worked for years at various financial
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institutions such as ABN Amro, Rabobank, Deloitte, Saxo
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Bank and Robeco as a laundry and tax
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investigation specialist.
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In my time here, I have seen a
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lot of how financial institutions work, how laundering
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works, how tax evasion works, and especially how
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the monetary system looks on the inside and
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on the outside.
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Under the banner of emergency powers, donations became
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threats.
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Dissent became financial risk.
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It was a warning shot to the world.
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What happens when digital money and digital surveillance
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become one?
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One of the moments when I really saw
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how much power financial institutions have was during
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the plan de mille.
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But it's for my safety.
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I'm not doing anything wrong, am I?
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That's the most dangerous sentence.
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Every dictatorship, every tyranny started to ensure your
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safety.
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First, you had to give up your freedom
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for terrorism.
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Then, for a virus.
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Immediately, for CO2.
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And in the end, the government has all
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the control.
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With a digital euro and a digital ID,
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they can convert all this data into...
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This happens, for example, in China.
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If you drink too much alcohol there, you're
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not allowed to travel with the public transport.
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If you do certain things that are not
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allowed by the government, they take other things
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from you.
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We've seen that in Europe as well.
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If you didn't have a stamp, you didn't
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have a QR.
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But they can do that to the extreme.
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In Europe, this all seems more subtle.
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With laws like the Digital Service Act and
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the AI Act, Europe is much more subtle.
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It's not about violence, but about an algorithm.
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Try talking to a chatbot when your account
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is blocked or you can't log in somewhere.
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Maybe you've done that before, but it doesn't
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work.
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And what if the government puts everything in
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algorithms?
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You can't get in touch with the municipality.
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You have to talk to chatbots.
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Then everything suddenly becomes very black and white.
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And with a digital ID and a digital
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euro, everything can be blocked as soon as
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you do something.
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And nobody does that, right?
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It's an algorithm that's set up.
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So try fighting an algorithm.
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If you say you have nothing to hide,
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you say, OK, I don't do anything that's
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illegal, so everybody can know everything.
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Well, that's a pretty bad argument anyway.
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Because we've seen that over the years, some
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things can become illegal that weren't before.
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And then it could be that the information
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you had, which at that moment was just
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legal, fair, normal, suddenly causes a problem.
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It wasn't just products that flowed in.
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It was people.
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Engineers.
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Entrepreneurs.
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Trained in Silicon Valley.
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And they came back, not just to copy
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the West, but to build something far more
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powerful.
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In 1994, China officially connected to the internet.
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So that started the Chinese development of the
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internet.
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Of course, China started this by really copying
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the Western digital development.
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Many of the Chinese tech company founders, they
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studied in the US, in Silicon Valley, and
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they had experience in the United States.
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And they brought those technologies back to China,
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or those business formats.
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So that also drives domestic development.
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The famous ex-CEO of China, Kai-Fu
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Lee, once said in his book that if
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the US tech founders are mission-driven, then
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the Chinese tech founders are market-driven.
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And China is a huge country.
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It has one time zone.
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It has one language.
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It has a huge population.
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So you have a big market to really
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exercise and practice.
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And try all kinds of business models.
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In China, because of the online shopping and
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e-commerce, has developed to a very next
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level.
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But at the same time, I think consumers
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started to worry that, okay, I'm constantly driven
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by the platform.
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And a few years ago, when I was
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discussing this with a Chinese colleague of mine
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in China, we talked about how Chinese e
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-commerce is developing.
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And then that colleague of mine said, yeah,
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you have to be careful, because the platform
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is listening to you.
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So there are already concerns from users about,
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okay, the data ownership, who has the say.
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And of course, this also leads to overconsumption
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concern.
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China became the world's largest test environment.
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New digital tools, new financial systems, rolled out
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in real time, tested live on hundreds of
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millions of users.
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Everything here is platform-driven.
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Transport, communication, payments, even identity.
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And while these platforms may look domestic, the
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truth is far more global.
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Tech giants like Alibaba, ByteDance and Tencent aren't
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just Chinese success stories.
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They're backed by capital from Wall Street to
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Singapore.
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This isn't just Chinese innovation.
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It's global infrastructure with Chinese characteristics.
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And yes, people are aware.
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These systems watch, and they listen.
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Would you let artificial intelligence spend your hard
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-earned money for you?
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Visa announced it's enabling artificial intelligence to find
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and buy products for its customers.
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Mastercard made a similar announcement Tuesday.
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Consumers can still set guardrails and preferences, but
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both Mastercard and Visa say their AI can
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select items and make online purchases themselves.
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And that's not all.
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Amazon is also testing its own AI shopping
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agent.
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Now what our product teams have done is
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used AI to empower consumers.
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Empower consumers to have more effective and efficient
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shopping experiences, to be able to work with
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your agent, whether you're going to go, you
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need a new set of tennis shoes to
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run a marathon, or you're going to buy
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a Mother's Day gift, which is coming up
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in a week or two.
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Your agent will be able to go do
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that on your behalf.
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But for that to work, your agent needs
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the tools to do that.
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And we announced a lot of tools today
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that are going to make the payments work.
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And you need trust.
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All they want is you constantly shop on
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it.
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They will promote certain products to you.
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In China, you have two major payment systems.
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One is Alipay.
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The other is WeChat Pay.
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So Alipay is very straightforward.
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It's linked to Alibaba.
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So Alibaba is a tech giant in China.
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And up to now, Alibaba and Tencent, they
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are not a Chinese company anymore.
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They are a shareholding company because they have
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a lot of business branches all over the
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world.
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They are a multinational company.
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So we cannot just simply see them as
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a Chinese company in China.
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So all in all, you can see more
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and more influence or control from the central
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government on those private sectors.
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Chinese digital economy that created a lot of
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profits, prosperity and gains.
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But at the same time, we should definitely
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see the dark side of platform businesses because
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they also give an alarming lesson to the
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rest of the world.
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In the West, we often look at China
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with caution.
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But quietly, we are building our own version.
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Big tech is no longer just shaping what
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we see.
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It's starting to shape how we spend.
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Visa has now introduced an AI that can
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make purchases on your behalf.
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It learns from your habits, follows your budget
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and makes decisions without you lifting a finger.
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It's marketed as convenient, effortless, smart.
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But every automatic payment is more data.
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Every decision you surrender is one more step
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away from control.
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And while private companies blur the line between
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assistance and automation, governments are watching closely.
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In Europe, plans are underway for a central
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bank digital currency, a digital euro, promoted as
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safe, efficient, modern.
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But ask yourself, who controls the rails?
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Because if your identity, your behavior and your
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payments all run through a single system, then
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money is no longer a tool of freedom,
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but of permission.
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I work as a lawyer.
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And in 2012, a client approached me with
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a so-called interest swap.
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That's a complex product.
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And that product, well, he got smeared, I
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would almost say, by his bank.
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There seems to be a very big international
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fraud behind it.
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And that fraud I eventually exposed in my
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book.
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If we're going to put all our trust
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in a digital currency controlled by central institutions,
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we should first ask, have those institutions earned
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our trust?
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Because behind the scenes of Europe's most respected
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banks there are stories of deception, risk shifting
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and regulatory failure.
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One of the people who saw this from
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the inside is Hester Bees.
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The product my client got was a non
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-trade product.
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OTC derivatives, that's what they call it in
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the professional world.
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And the bank had thought of something for
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that.
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Because the client came to the bank for
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financing.
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He got this complex product.
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So the bank couldn't say, well, are you
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going to give me a base for the
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trade in this complex product?
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Because the client came for financing.
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So he just wanted money from the bank.
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Well, to comply with those rules, banks, without
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the client knowing or understanding that, borrowed money
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on a bank account, on a blocked bank
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account, in the name of the client.
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And that as a base was blocked on
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that client's account.
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As if he was trading in those derivatives.
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And that base cost this client 700,000
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euros.
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And that was increased over time when the
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client closed this product to 1.3 million.
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Which he actually got from an extra financing
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from the bank without him knowing.
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So that 1.3 million had influence on
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the client's debitory position and therefore also at
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the height of his interest the liquidity deposit.
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And what surprised me, at the beginning of
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2013 the bank received, or sent the bank
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suddenly to the client bank receipts.
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And they had never done that before for
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this complex product.
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So the client sends that directly to his
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lawyer.
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And I look at that.
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And I think, yes, I actually discovered that
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the deposit accounts that the bank had administered
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until 2013 were no longer on the bank
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receipts.
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Well, and that is fraud.
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You can ask yourself whether it is fraud
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that the bank first booked those deposit accounts
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because the client did not deposit high liquidity
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deposits at all.
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He did not deposit money.
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The bank had just borrowed that with a
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credit line.
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And then this bank removed it in 2013.
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At that time, it was not about a
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very large amount in the financial world.
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It was about this client who had received
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an increase in interest and the damage he
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had suffered was about 7.5 tons.
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And that file was so full of abuses
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and was so in conflict with all the
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rules that I normally as a client, as
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a lawyer advise about.
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That I thought, yes, this will be actually
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an egg.
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We go to that bank and I was
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actually convinced that that bank would want to
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steal this because it was such a bad
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file, so to speak, for the bank.
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But because the bank's lawyers with such a
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straight leg and so intimidating, yes, that I
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00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520
really thought, okay, what's going on here?
553
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,070
I actually became suspicious and they made me
554
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,260
curious that I thought, God, this is very
555
00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:55,380
serious why are they doing this?
556
00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,940
Why are those lawyers and that bank so
557
00:27:58,940 --> 00:28:01,340
intimidating and why are they going in here
558
00:28:01,340 --> 00:28:02,480
with such a straight leg?
559
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,120
And that actually aroused my curiosity even more
560
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,260
so that I went even deeper into those
561
00:28:09,260 --> 00:28:09,580
files.
562
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,280
And yes, well, that eventually led to that
563
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,460
I found out that this liquidity problem, this
564
00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:23,800
liquidity shortage, this substantial shortage for this product,
565
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,860
OTC derivatives, in the Netherlands was 200 billion.
566
00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:33,100
And that 200 billion turns out to be
567
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,160
much larger And that is in, I have
568
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,540
in 2016 in a document from the Korean
569
00:28:40,540 --> 00:28:44,860
Institute of Finance read that in Europe it
570
00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:48,920
is about 3,500 billion euros and that
571
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,340
it is worldwide about 41 billion euros.
572
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,880
And the biggest problem is, and that is
573
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,420
really the biggest scandal that is going to
574
00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:01,560
come out is that they have used the
575
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,500
pension funds to, that substantial shortage of 200
576
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:08,140
billion to temporarily borrow that from the pension
577
00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:08,300
fund.
578
00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:11,860
So that is of incredibly great importance and
579
00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:14,520
yes, when I found out I had to
580
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,400
swallow because then I understood that I was
581
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,400
much bigger yes, secretly on the trail and
582
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,740
that I that yes, possibly myself would also
583
00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:24,640
be in danger of that.
584
00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:55,200
What you see is that the financial system
585
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,700
which is thus evidenced with the worst bank
586
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:02,280
scenario that that yes, completely in blockchain will
587
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600
take place and that that actually the base
588
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,820
of that system is in the hands of
589
00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:12,960
a few large parties the business banks, the
590
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,380
asset managers and their regulators and in my
591
00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:20,980
eyes those central banks actually in recent decades
592
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,660
infiltrated by these people who therefore actually pursue
593
00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:28,500
the own interest of those banks and asset
594
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:32,480
managers and what you see is that their
595
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,440
ultimate goal is that global liquidity and that
596
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,080
control over that citizen, over that consumer.
597
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,740
The retail CBDC, which now has a lot
598
00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:47,140
to do yes, the closing of the system
599
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:50,400
in my eyes that is not even the
600
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,200
most worrisome.
601
00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:54,800
The worrisome is that it can lead to
602
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,920
that the system is closed, that it becomes
603
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,180
a closed system so that citizens can no
604
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:03,060
longer have cash or outside that system for
605
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:07,560
example can trade with bitcoin by only allowing
606
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,620
bitcoin via license-holding companies.
607
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:14,480
So actually that everything will be fixed between
608
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,600
intermediaries to control the behavior of those consumers
609
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,920
to monitor and eventually also to limit.
610
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:24,960
Yes, I think especially that the acceleration that
611
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,620
has taken place in that technology and that
612
00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:32,020
that lack of liquidity in that system by
613
00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:36,200
reusing all those assets and also centralizing all
614
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,140
those assets is a much bigger danger.
615
00:31:39,260 --> 00:31:42,160
In China, technology became infrastructure.
616
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:47,120
Payments, transport, identity, all merged into one seamless
617
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,180
trackable platform.
618
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,700
Now that model is spreading.
619
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,760
In the West, Visa has launched AI that
620
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,200
spends on your behalf deciding what you buy,
621
00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:57,320
when, and how.
622
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,480
All in the name of convenience.
623
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Meanwhile, global banks face a familiar crisis.
624
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120
Massive collateral shortfalls, hidden risks, shrinking trust.
625
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:10,040
The solution now offered?
626
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,520
A central bank digital currency.
627
00:32:13,420 --> 00:32:14,320
A new kind of money.
628
00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:16,500
Coded, controlled, and programmable.
629
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,720
Sold as stability.
630
00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:21,040
But when the same institutions that failed to
631
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,780
protect the old system are building the new
632
00:32:22,780 --> 00:32:24,940
one, what exactly are we walking into?
633
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:30,200
Eventually, we had to go back to the
634
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,540
basics.
635
00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:31,960
Why did money ever exist?
636
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,800
In the past, we had to trade.
637
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,760
Milk against eggs, stones, shells, kilos of gold.
638
00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:41,500
And then, money was discovered.
639
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:44,160
With money, you can move things more easily.
640
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,900
Very simple.
641
00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:49,920
But the money we have now, with banks,
642
00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:53,940
with crypto, and with cash, it works.
643
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,860
Everyone sees that it works.
644
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,640
No one feels the urgency.
645
00:32:57,860 --> 00:33:00,180
No one feels that we really need a
646
00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:02,260
digital euro, a digital dollar.
647
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560
Only the system that wants control on you.
648
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,860
Isn't that funny?
649
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,940
No one wants this.
650
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:26,320
We live in a world where
651
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:36,420
everyone wants
652
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:37,960
to have a digital euro.
653
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,100
We live in a world wants to have
654
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:42,200
a digital euro.
655
00:33:48,020 --> 00:33:49,820
We live in a world a digital euro.
656
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,900
We live in a world where everyone a
657
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:52,060
digital euro.
658
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,000
We live a digital euro.
659
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:03,960
We live wants to have We live in
660
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,160
a world a digital euro.
661
00:34:10,860 --> 00:34:12,620
We live in a world a digital euro.
662
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,699
We live in a world a digital euro.
663
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,900
what they are going to do, you also
664
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:22,400
have to spend it within a certain time
665
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,120
limit.
666
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,199
Look, with cash money you can save.
667
00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:27,480
What does that mean?
668
00:34:28,060 --> 00:34:31,000
You can save six months and if your
669
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,360
employer does something you don't like, you can
670
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,260
say, you know what, I don't work for
671
00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:36,440
you anymore.
672
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,920
I don't have a job anymore, but you
673
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,960
can at least go on for six months.
674
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,679
You have a little more autonomy and you
675
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,199
have a bigger mouth, you dare to do
676
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:46,299
something.
677
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,800
But if you don't have a savings account,
678
00:34:50,219 --> 00:34:52,980
all the money you earn, you have to
679
00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:54,880
spend it directly, you can't get by much
680
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,380
faster for yourself, because you can't pay your
681
00:34:57,380 --> 00:35:00,480
rent, your mortgage, don't feed your children, so
682
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,420
you have to lower your head and listen.
683
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,060
But a promise is only as strong as
684
00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:17,380
the pressure not to break it.
685
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,680
In Canada, peaceful protesters saw their bank accounts
686
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,180
frozen without a trial.
687
00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:27,660
In the Netherlands, political leaders publicly suggested cutting
688
00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:30,460
benefits for parents who refused to vaccinate.
689
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,740
The line between public health and personal control
690
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:35,320
proved razor thin.
691
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:38,320
So what happens when money becomes code?
692
00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:41,660
Who decides what's allowed, what's delayed, what's denied?
693
00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:45,420
You now see almost a kind of perfect
694
00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:50,320
storm, which, one, indicates that our monetary system
695
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,940
is coming to an end.
696
00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:54,420
And there are still one or two rabbits
697
00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:56,980
in the haystack by central bankers.
698
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Think, for example, of a central bank digital
699
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,440
currency and financial repression.
700
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,480
There are all kinds of interests.
701
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,860
Those interests are gigantic.
702
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,480
Many billions involved are involved in the implementation
703
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,900
of a central bank digital currency, but also
704
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:15,560
in preserving the status quo.
705
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,860
By the way, preserving the status quo is
706
00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:18,960
not without victims.
707
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:22,220
We see that in reality, with the more
708
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:25,720
expensive words of messages, with higher bills, with
709
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,120
the ever-increasing gap between the poor and
710
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,360
the rich.
711
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,240
What I always refer to in my book
712
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,380
as corruption and ambition, are all signs of
713
00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:38,840
the failure of this monetary system.
714
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,780
In the end, it is inevitable that it
715
00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:42,120
will happen.
716
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,100
We will have to start again at some
717
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:44,440
point.
718
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,680
And the powerholders, or at least the policy
719
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,940
makers, the governments and now central banks, are
720
00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:55,460
trying to get ahead of this by introducing
721
00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:56,900
a central bank digital currency.
722
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:58,120
But what they are doing with it is
723
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,440
that the current system is still a little
724
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,520
bit left to wriggle, you could say, before
725
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,240
it eventually has to die.
726
00:37:28,210 --> 00:37:31,350
It's a framework, not designed to restore stability,
727
00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:33,170
but to control the collapse.
728
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:37,230
To contain a crisis by managing you.
729
00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:39,270
If we want to sketch an image of
730
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:41,690
what the end of this monetary system will
731
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:44,530
look like, then it is not necessarily an
732
00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:45,010
explosion.
733
00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:47,790
I think it's more of a candle that
734
00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:49,390
slowly but surely burns.
735
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:51,630
And it's not about shocks.
736
00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:52,330
There will be shocks.
737
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:55,450
But it's much more of a closing process.
738
00:37:55,450 --> 00:37:56,670
And we can already see that closing process
739
00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:58,490
very well.
740
00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:01,410
Namely, it is a process of a slow
741
00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:05,050
but certain reduction of one purchasing power of
742
00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:07,370
the currency, but also in relation to, for
743
00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:08,970
example, our first need for life.
744
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,540
In Roman times, we see at a good
745
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:21,680
moment that there is a huge expansion of
746
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,120
the number of slaves.
747
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480
And now you can think, well, that has
748
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,360
everything to do with the fact that they
749
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,560
are going to take the work out of
750
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,260
their hands.
751
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:36,420
Whether it's about housing or agriculture, whatever.
752
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,260
That is of course the case.
753
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:41,960
But another important reason for keeping slaves was
754
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,140
that they represented capital.
755
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,860
In fact, it was actually money.
756
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,240
You could pay with your slaves.
757
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,200
And you also kept slaves in order to
758
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,420
have a lot of capital in that way.
759
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,600
In short, they actually became a means of
760
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:58,880
payment.
761
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,980
And one of the reasons why in Rome
762
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:07,360
the number of slaves also expanded or increased
763
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,720
was precisely because people needed extra capital to
764
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,980
let the economy grow in that way.
765
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,300
And that one is extremely critical of all
766
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:22,060
kinds of attempts that are now being made
767
00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:24,340
to actually put the freedom of the citizen
768
00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:26,300
on the line.
769
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:31,320
Because one feels somewhere that that implies that
770
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,640
indeed this wizard, this fist, will also master
771
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,240
your property.
772
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,660
And with that, in fact, you will end
773
00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:44,360
up in a position of expropriation or maybe
774
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,460
even of slavery again.
775
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:53,540
And that is a kind of roundabout in
776
00:39:53,540 --> 00:39:54,480
which we may end up in a very
777
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,420
strange way, in a different way than the
778
00:39:57,420 --> 00:40:00,560
Greeks of that time, in a situation of
779
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,420
debt slavery.
780
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,560
Whether it comes to that, the future will
781
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,080
have to show.
782
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:17,700
You have to ask yourself.
783
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,760
Freedom is not something you automatically get.
784
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,560
You have to protect it.
785
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,860
And you do that by understanding how power
786
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:26,940
and a structure work.
787
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,180
This is not a criticism of the Netherlands.
788
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:32,620
This is a call to maturity for you.
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