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A man is about
to live his final day.
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He will die of a stroke
while swimming.
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But this was no ordinary man.
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Once an SS Captain...
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a doctor...
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..a fugitive.
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He spent over 30 years on the run,
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evading justice as one of the
most wanted Nazi war criminals.
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- Every stupid person can do evil,
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and there is nothing good
after that.
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Only more evil comes.
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- Without any moral,
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ethical boundaries will lead you,
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and it leads you down a very,
very dark path.
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- Uh... No, I...
I couldn't possibly forgive.
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- There were no breaks
to his... to his ambition.
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But who was this man really?
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How did a young,
ambitious medical student...
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become one of the most
reviled figures in modern history?
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How did he rise to embody
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Nazi pseudoscience and brutality?
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- His main aim is to get ahead,
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to be the first, to be the best.
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NARRATOR: He conducted
horrific experiments
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in one of history's
most infamous prison camps.
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His work remains
a chilling testament
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to how ideology can corrupt science,
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leaving a dark and lasting legacy.
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And after the war,
how could he escape justice
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and remain hidden for so long?
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With the support
of his powerful family,
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he lived comfortably
in South America
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under false identities.
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How did the world allow a man
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responsible for such atrocities
to live in freedom,
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eluding capture for decades?
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This is the story of a man...
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..of a criminal.
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This is the story
of Josef Mengele.
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In the collective imagination,
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Josef Mengele, known as
the "Angel of Death" of Auschwitz,
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embodies Nazi cruelty.
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His name is synonymous
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with barbaric experiments
on prisoners,
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particularly children.
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Mengele has become
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one of the most repugnant figures
of the 20th century.
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But was he truly
the dark figure depicted
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in numerous documentaries
and countless books?
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Or had he become a scapegoat
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for the atrocities committed
by the Nazis?
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- Mengele is born in 1911
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in a little town called Gunzburg
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in Bavaria in southern Germany.
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Mengele writes in his memoirs about
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how he was born on
a very stormy night.
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- And, you know,
he gives the impression
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that maybe when he's born,
it's a very momentous event.
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So, I think, you know,
we begin to see how big his ego is.
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- Early in my career,
I was assigned
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to the investigation
of Josef Mengele when I worked
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as a Chief of Investigative Research
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for the US Department of Justice's
Office of Special Investigations.
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So I spent more than one year
really trying to find Mengele.
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- Mengele grew up
in a quite prosperous home.
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He was the oldest of three sons
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born to Karl Mengele,
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who was the owner of a company
that made farm equipment
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that really had some success
in the First world War,
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making wagons for the...
for the German army.
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- His family business,
his parents' family business,
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was THE major employer in the town.
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And even today,
if you go to Bavaria,
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you'll still see some tractors
with the name Mengele on the side.
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- He grew up in a rather
conservative Catholic home.
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- But it's not a major influence
in Mengele's life.
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And, certainly,
some Nazi war criminals
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who come from very strongly
Catholic backgrounds,
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someone like Klaus Barbie,
for example,
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the "Butcher of Lyon"
who wanted to be a Catholic priest.
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Mengele was certainly not
the type of man
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who wanted to be a Catholic priest.
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- He had a relatively
uneventful childhood.
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I mean, there was nothing
in his childhood that would lead you
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to believe
that he would later become
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the infamous physician at Auschwitz.
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There's nothing to suggest
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in the not very voluminous evidence
about his childhood
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that he exhibited any kinds
of unusual personal conduct.
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People imagine that he would torture
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pet animals in the backyard,
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and there's no evidence of that.
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- What you have here is
a kind of normal boy
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who's a bit sick.
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He's of average intelligence,
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and there is no sign
of any kind of evil to him.
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He did have one thing that
had a large impact on his youth,
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and that was an illness that he had
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when he was a young person
in his early teenage years.
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Maybe he was climbing
an apple tree -
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or something like that - fell...
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- ..had a crushing trauma
to his leg,
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which then resulted
in osteomyelitis,
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which is an infection of the bone
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and also sepsis
and, uh... nephritis.
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Bacteria entered the body and then
settled in the... in his bones,
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causing, you know,
a great deal of pain.
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And he had to miss school
for a long period of time.
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That's registered
in his school records.
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So he went to an academic school,
a Gymnasium.
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So, he was slated
to have a university experience.
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His marks were kind of
maybe high average,
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not some kind of brilliant genius.
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- There's not one grade
that I've seen
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in any of Mengle's reports
that make you to go,
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"Wow, this guy is some genius!"
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He's... a perfectly average student.
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He has no particular aptitude
for science.
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He has no particular aptitude
for languages.
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His illnesses meant that his mother,
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who was very much a...
a firm matriarch of the family,
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had actually, basically,
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discussed with his father and said,
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"I don't think Josef is right
to take over the family business.
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We'll leave that to a brother."
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- When he went to the university
in Munich in the summer semester,
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which means April of 1930,
I believe,
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he didn't really know
what he wanted to do.
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He thought perhaps
he'd want to be a dentist.
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There was no dentist, apparently,
in his hometown.
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He thought this would be
a good experience.
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There is no apparent
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psychological anomaly
in his background.
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Yet, the atrocities he committed
in Auschwitz are chilling.
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What drove this transformation?
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- What did you inject
into our bodies?
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And why did you do it?
What was the scope?
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What was the idea
behind these experiments?
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My name is Eva Mozes Kor.
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But I prefer to use the short one,
Eva Kor.
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Miriam and I were twins.
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And Miriam was the older
among the two.
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- It was maybe
the first week of school.
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We were just still very excited
about going to the school.
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But there was one of those days
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that the kids started
calling us names,
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Miriam and me.
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"Dirty Jews."
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I was very shocked
to hear that from them
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cos these were kids
I played with in the village.
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And we could not do anything.
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Then, finally,
they began taunting us
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and beating us over the face.
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That was the first time
I went to the teacher
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and told the teacher...
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..that the kids were beating us up
and harassing us,
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and the teacher did nothing.
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She took a handful of corn kernels
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and threw it...
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..in that corner of the room...
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and made us kneel there...
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on the corn kernels
for an hour
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while the rest
of the kids were permitted
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to come and make fun of us.
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- When he arrives in Munich,
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Mengele is... is initially down
to read dentistry.
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Um... He thinks
he can make a good living
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being a...
a dentist back in Gunzburg.
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- And then,
as he recounts in his autobiography,
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he, um... meets a student
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who had been
to his Gymnasium in Gunzburg
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a year or two before,
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and who was now studying this.
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And this guy said,
"You don't want to be a dentist."
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"You should be a physician." That...
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That's... That's important.
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This was a kind of "aha" moment
where he thought about it
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and then decided,
"Well, that's what I'm gonna do."
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And from that moment on,
he devoted himself to this study.
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- And that begins
the career of Josef Mengele.
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His father even bought him a car.
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He lived a really happy life
because of his wealth.
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He was really privileged
compared with other students.
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And he was really dedicated
to his studies.
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He was very interested
in Anthropology,
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which, at the time,
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was a different kind
of Anthropology from today.
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It was focussed
on physical appearance
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and racial differences
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and NOT on culture and traditions.
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There was also
this idea of racial hygiene,
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that races should be pure.
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There should be
no what was called miscellany.
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No intermarrying between
black people and white people,
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between Chinese, Asiatic people
and white people.
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There is absurd idea...
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of purity and racial separation.
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- We don't really see a...
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a political awakening in Mengele
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until when he's at university.
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As a teenager, Mengele had
joined nationalist youth groups,
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a common occurrence
among millions of other adolescents
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in Germany
during the same period.
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However, he was not
particularly drawn to politics.
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- The Mengele family were
very important part
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of Gunzburg society.
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It's difficult to say
whether they were Nazis.
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I don't think so.
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They were certainly traditional.
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Politics was not
what they were most interested in.
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They were interested
in growing their property,
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in making money,
but not in politics.
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When Hitler comes to Gunzburg,
for example,
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Mengele's father, Karl, was there.
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He even spoke to Hitler.
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But he wasn't
a real National Socialist.
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- Now, you might think
that the first thing
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that Mengele does is
join the Nazi party.
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He doesn't.
He actually joins the Stahlhelm,
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the Steel Helmets,
which is a much more
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kind of paramilitary organisation
than the Nazi party.
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So, it's important to remember
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that Mengele does not
become a Nazi,
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you know, in 1933.
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He wasn't one of...
of the original Nazis.
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- He entered university
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right before this big election
in September 1930,
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when the support for the
Nazi Party surprised everyone.
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So his university experience
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and his experience
with the science of anthropology
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and the science of medicine
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at a time when these were
being elevated to a new status,
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it all came together for him
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so that his entire university career
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was stamped
by the political environment,
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which had an impact
on the scientific environment,
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which had an impact on him.
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- And then,
what is also interesting,
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Mengele had a diary.
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And he wrote in his diary every day,
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so we can reconstruct
his early life.
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- Mengele was a very
self-confident young man.
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And one of his school friends
remember him saying, you know,
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"One day, you're going
to see me," you know,
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"read about me in an encyclopaedia."
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Mengele was indeed correct...
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but not for the reasons
he believed.
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He is infamous for his experiments
on children at Auschwitz...
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..treating them as nothing more
than mere guinea pigs.
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- I recall one case,
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one occasion
when he came to the barracks.
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I don't know why.
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There must have been a reason
why he came,
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but, at some point, he decided...
..to show his prowess.
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I don't know how to call it,
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the power of his memory,
if you like.
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I recall a case, uh...
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an instance,
when he lined us all up
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and basically telling Spiegel,
our leader,
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"Now, I'm going to point out
all the ones
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that I personally selected
at the ramp."
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And he pointed all the pairs,
including our... us,
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to show his power
of recollection, his memory.
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I don't know why he did that.
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I mean, uh...
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what... what did he try
to prove to us,
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you know, subhumans?
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It is
during his university years
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that we begin to see
a shift in Mengele's personality,
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a gradual dehumanisation.
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This transformation is likely tied
to his deep immersion
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in theories of racial hygiene
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and the ideology
of racial supremacy,
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which became central
to his academic focus
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and, ultimately, his worldview.
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- He experienced really, you know,
world-class university instruction
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from people who had already won
the Nobel Prize.
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There were people who would
eventually win the Nobel Prize.
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The centre is occupied
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by Eugen Fischer
and Theodor Mollison...
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..and Otmar von Verschuer
and other great luminaries.
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Mengele is still on the fringe,
but it's...
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it's the group
he wants to be part of.
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- What's extraordinary
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when you look at Mengele's
academic record at university -
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and he went to quite
a few universities -
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is that he went in
to do a medical degree.
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And while he was doing
his medical degree,
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he did a doctorate,
a PhD in Anthropology,
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at the same time.
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- So we know that he was
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an ambitious
and talented young scientist.
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Many professors noticed
his abilities,
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and Mengele used the opportunity
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to start building
his academic career.
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- And Mengele,
after he had finished his PhD
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in anthropology
under Theodor Mollison,
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he goes to Frankfurt
to study with von Verschuer.
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with a prevailing belief
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in German medical circles
and beyond,
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which categorised races
into different hierarchies,
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placing Aryans at the top.
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- We'll call him a geneticist
or racial hygiene expert
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who became the founding director
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of the Institute
for Racial Hygiene of Frankfurt.
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In Germany, you know,
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your supervisor
for your doctoral work,
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they call them "Dr Vater,"
Dr Father.
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This gives you some suggestion
of the important of that supervisor
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in not only your academic life,
but in your... your whole life.
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- He is absolutely sort of...
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very influential
on Mengele's thinking.
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He's helping him realise
and teaching him
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that there are
all these racial differences.
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- So, Mengele did his dissertation
which was accepted quite favourably
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and was published
in a very good journal.
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The dissertation was
about the defects
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in the palate, the upper palate.
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So, he looked carefully
at the cases of...
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..maybe close
to 120 different people.
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So, he did what was considered to be
a very careful job of research.
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The cleft palate was considered
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to be something
that was racially suspect.
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So Mengele's research allowed them
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to determine genetically
whether someone was more apt to...
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to have a cleft palate or not.
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And people who had this condition
then, in some cases,
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were not allowed to marry or...
or had to submit to sterilisation
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so they couldn't pass on
this characteristic.
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- What Mengele is doing
is helping to provide
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the medical backbone
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to what the Nazis want
to do politically.
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- What's most important
to note is
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that Mengele was
a child of his times,
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a reflection of that period.
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Mengele's thesis in the 1930s
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was not only politically correct,
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but also represented the knowledge
and mentality of the time.
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- Mengele's mentor,
Otmar von Verschuer,
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was very well respected
and famous in his field.
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Verschuer was interested in twins.
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He did numerous studies
and experiments in this field
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and asked Mengele
to become his assistant.
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- Mengele became an assistant
of... of Verschuer and became...
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I don't know
if you call him his prize student,
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but that's... that's probably not
too much of an exaggeration
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that he was one
of his good students.
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This bond
between von Verschuer
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and Mengele would never falter...
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..not even
as Mengele awaited his victims
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on the ramp at Birkenau.
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And they loaded us
onto freight cars.
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They counted how many of us
we were in the wagons.
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And then, with chalk, they marked:
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seventy-four, seventy-five.
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They unloaded us
on the street first
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on the second day...
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..to dump out the rubbish,
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the barrels with faeces and so.
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And someone saw a chalk writing
on the wagon.
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Auschwitz.
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They took me to the camp,
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and I ended up in front of Mengele.
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I didn't know anything
about him - Mengele -
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before that day.
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I hadn't even heard of him.
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I have accumulated 91 years.
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Throughout this long time,
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I have introduced myself
as Oleg Mandic...
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..the last child of Auschwitz.
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Every time I come back here,
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in a way, I feel good.
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I don't know.
I have this feeling. It's my home.
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I was born here, in this house.
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In 1944...
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..on the 15th of May...
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..they took me away from here.
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And they took away my childhood.
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It never came back.
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How did Nazi
racial thinking come about?
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Who was Hitler inspired by?
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Where did the madness
of Auschwitz originate?
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All these questions can be
answered with one term...
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..Eugenics.
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- Eugenics was born in England.
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The term was coined
by Francis Galton,
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outstanding British,
uh... scientist.
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And also, he worked out
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the theory about, uh... eugenics.
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So about improving of human race.
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It was very attractive at the time.
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It was the second part
of the 19th century,
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when the Darwinism also was
very attractive theory
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Because they strongly believe
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that the science makes
people better.
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And the science is like
a promise for the better world.
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World without sufferings,
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world without people
with a different,
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uh... biological defectiveness,
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disabled people, uh... ill people.
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- It's this idea that there are
inferior human beings,
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uh... racially,
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and that there are inferior human
beings in terms of their health.
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- Eugenics can be seen
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as something first
before the genetics.
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It is the beginning of the genetics.
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Yes, most doctors maintained
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that almost all diseases are...
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hereditarily, you know, passed.
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And, as we know,
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eugenicists put the proposal
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to segregate people
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and to deprive some groups
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of people from their own rights
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and to kerb their fertility...
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..and to sterilise those
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who are physically or,
uh... psychiatric unfit.
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If we start sterilise ill people,
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we achieve better model of society.
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- Now, you might apply that
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if you are breeding pigs or cows.
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Are you really going
to apply that morally
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if you're going
to breed human beings?
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- Eugenics was
so important in interwar years
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because of the new phenomenon
of welfare state.
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I mean, the state
which provide free medical care,
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eight-hour work day,
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and who take care
about developing of hospitals,
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etcetera, etcetera.
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But because of that,
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state has also...
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right to decide
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about the offsprings,
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about decision
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which previous belongs
only to the individuals.
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In the annals
of human ambition,
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the quest
for genetic improvement extends
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far beyond
the dark spectre of Naziism.
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The aspiration to breed
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for the betterment of the race
predates Naziism
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and spread rapidly
throughout the developed nations,
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particularly in England, France,
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and especially the United States.
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- Let's not think that what's
going on in Germany is unique.
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And let's not think
that the thinking
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that Mengele is exposed to
is exceptional for the time.
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It's really important to recognise
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that medical thinking in the 1920s,
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1930s in Germany, uh...
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Britain, the United States,
all over the world,
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was informed
by this idea of eugenics.
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- Eugenics is a question concerning
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the most advanced
industrialised country.
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Like in England,
United States of America,
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also France, uh... also Belgium,
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and many, many other countries.
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- Some of the research
in Germany was funded
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by the Rockefeller foundation.
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- Some American
eugenicists cooperate
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very strongly
with the German eugenicists.
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They expressed terrible opinion
about the unfit,
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about people who were perceived
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as heavy for modern societies.
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But, in spite of that,
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they never made such
a move like Nazi Germany
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because they didn't build
a gas chamber.
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They didn't kill people
because of that.
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All eugenics movement was
based on the theory,
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which was very dangerous
for human rights.
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But only one type of eugenics lead
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to concentration camp
and gas chamber.
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It was the German eugenics.
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- In Germany,
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there's a much stronger sense of...
of the health of the nation,
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and that you should cut out anybody
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who is not going to contribute
to the health of the nation.
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- For instance,
under Nazi criminal law,
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it was a criminal offence
for a German
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to have sexual relations with a Jew.
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This was criminal.
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You could be thrown in jail
for having done that.
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Why? Because they believed
that this would have
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an impact on your racial quality.
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These racial concepts did
not end with the end of Naziism.
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In the United States,
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it was only in the late 1960s
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that it was possible
to have interracial marriage.
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And the Apartheid regime
in South Africa only ended in 1991.
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And still today,
how many cases of racism are there?
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- The father of race and...
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..Nazi eugenics was Eugen Fischer.
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So he described the offsprings
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of so called mixed races.
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They are less intelligent,
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often in a conflict with the law.
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They don't want to learn.
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And they are less adult.
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And generally, the conclusion is
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that the mixing of race cause
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very serious physical
and mental defects.
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- Medicine in Germany in the '20s
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has basically influenced Nazism
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to think of people
as being different,
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and inferior, and superior.
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The ideas of racial hygiene,
eugenics,
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a healthy nation getting rid
of its diseased people,
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these are ideas
that predate the Nazis.
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And then,
when the Nazis come to power,
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they feed that back
to the world of medicine,
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and the world of medicine
acts upon it.
511
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,680
- Mengele's pursuit of medicine
and anthropology,
512
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,040
which was an allied science,
in a way,
513
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,920
came exactly at the time
that this field was elevated
514
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,720
by the political atmosphere
and environment in Germany...
515
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,800
..by the
personal ideology of Adolf Hitler,
516
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,840
which became the ideology
of the Nazi movement
517
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,280
and then of the Nazi state.
518
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,720
- Mengele is the medical embodiment
of Nazi thinking,
519
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,560
and it's that Nazi thinking
about human beings
520
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,680
that's come
from the world of medicine.
521
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,720
So, you have this full circle.
522
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
- And Mengele accepted this.
523
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,120
This became part of the way
he looked at the world.
524
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040
There's no question about that.
And his whole career, from...
525
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,600
from the moment
that he began the study,
526
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,160
his career followed
this kind of... red thread.
527
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880
- So everything is connected
528
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,000
because they perceived the society
529
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,040
and the nation in biological terms.
530
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,000
How to sterilise people.
531
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360
How to kill people effectively,
532
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,640
economically, quickly,
533
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,920
and to obtain
the desired, uh... aim.
534
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,760
- It's under the Nazis
that you start seeing
535
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800
people being killed
536
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,000
and sterilised
for being "defective."
537
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,520
- The T4 project was
538
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880
the State-sponsored
euthanasia project, which...
539
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,160
..where the medical profession
was enlisted
540
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,320
in identifying those individuals
541
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,040
who, by their own definitions,
542
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,840
had congenital diseases
or some kind of...
543
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,480
..racial problem.
544
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,680
- It was program against patients
545
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800
of psychiatric hospitals
546
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,960
and people with a physical defect,
547
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,240
which was led in Germany
against their own citizens.
548
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,000
And hundreds, thousands
of people were just gassed.
549
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,560
- This is the most horrific
expression of medicine
550
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,840
that has ever taken place.
551
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,520
So, for the good of humanity,
552
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,640
for the good of the nation...
553
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,640
you kill them; it's very simple.
554
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,360
And Mengele,
555
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,200
whether he had direct knowledge
of the euthanasia program -
556
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,520
and it's likely he did -
but would have seen this
557
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,160
as a perfectly acceptable way of...
558
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,320
of doing good for humanity.
559
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:42,920
Officially, the T4 Program
was closed down in September 1941.
560
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,840
However,
the Nazis secretly continued
561
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,200
to eliminate
"Lives Unworthy of Living."
562
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,600
According to
Nuremberg Trial sources,
563
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,400
there were at least 200,000 victims
564
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
of the T4 Program.
565
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,880
- They initiated Holocaust
as a system
566
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,440
of murdering people.
567
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,320
- The euthanasia program
became the training ground
568
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,960
for the staffs
at the concentration camps.
569
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,480
The procedures used,
570
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,880
the way that they fooled people
into thinking
571
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,880
that they would be having a shower
572
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,800
rather than going
to the gas chambers.
573
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,960
The Nazis' atrocities
began long before the outbreak
574
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,080
of the Second World War.
575
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,920
Many perpetrators,
like Josef Mengele,
576
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,360
sought to evade responsibility.
577
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,440
Serge and Beate Klarsfeld,
578
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,520
a passionate couple
advocating for justice,
579
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,200
dedicated their lives
to capturing these criminals...
580
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,720
..and popularised
the legendary term 'Nazi hunter'.
581
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,080
- So you see here...
582
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,320
..five boxes with, uh...
583
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,800
our main target Brunner...
584
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,400
who died in Syria...
585
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920
..where we went four times.
586
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Mengele, Walter Rauff in Chile,
587
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,560
Klaus Barbie in Bolivia.
588
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040
- I was born in Germany, and, uh...
589
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,160
our apartment was bombed
590
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,480
when the war ended.
591
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,360
My father was in the army.
He was working in a Buro,
592
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,320
in an office for the party,
for the... for the Wehrmacht.
593
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,200
And when he was arrested,
he was arrested by the British.
594
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,400
And, uh... he, uh...
was then released really quite fast,
595
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,960
and he came to find us.
- So...
596
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,160
my father as a French soldier
597
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,520
and the father of Beate...
- In the Wehrmacht.
598
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,320
- ..as a German soldier.
599
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,960
Hunting Nazis...
600
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,400
it's a period of our life, you know,
601
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,520
until the end of the 20th century.
602
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,120
But, also, it was in order
to reconciliate
603
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,720
German and... and French people.
604
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,760
We started to be interested
605
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,640
in the case of Mengele in 1973
606
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,520
because Beate was already twice
607
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,240
in South America.
608
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,560
I was also in South America
609
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,320
in 1972...
610
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,080
to try to kidnap Klaus Barbie
611
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,000
and bring him to... to France.
612
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,480
- We were offering money, you know,
in the newspapers in South America
613
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,440
to obtain the possibilities
from people
614
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,360
to know where Mengele is,
you know, at the time.
615
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,160
In the pursuit of hunting Nazis,
616
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,280
one embarks on a profound
exploration into their psyches,
617
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,000
endeavouring to grasp
618
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,440
the intricate layers
of their personalities.
619
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,280
What propelled Josef Mengele
620
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,800
to commit such appalling
crimes against humanity?
621
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,320
- I think we should talk
about Mengele's personality here.
622
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,480
He's an ambitious man,
623
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,640
probably
with a narcissistic personality.
624
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,240
His main aim is to get ahead,
625
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,920
to be the first.
626
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,200
To be the best was really
important to him.
627
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,640
This is why
he decided to join the SS.
628
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,160
It was not out
of a militaristic spirit,
629
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,320
but because it was an elite core
630
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,040
that placed him
in a privileged position.
631
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,960
- It's a bit of a surprise, um...
632
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,400
because he doesn't look
like the classic SS man.
633
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,600
He's an average height.
He's very dark.
634
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640
He's got a slight abnormality
635
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,560
with this big gap
between his two front teeth.
636
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,640
So, he's not like
the classic, physical specimen
637
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,760
that you would expect, you know,
in the master race of the SS.
638
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,720
- If you wanted to be successful,
if you wanted to be recognised,
639
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,400
if you wanted to have advantages,
if you wanted to get the best job,
640
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,520
and... then, you were drawn
to these elite formations.
641
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,160
You embraced the ideology,
642
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,840
and you tried to exploit it
for your own benefit as well.
643
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,640
- By enlisting, Mengele knew that
he could make a career for himself
644
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,400
because the SS was
looking for educated people
645
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,160
and especially doctors.
646
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,840
- It's really important
to realise that,
647
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400
of all the professions
in the Third Reich,
648
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,200
medicine had the highest percentage
take-up of SS membership.
649
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,720
7% of physicians and those
650
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,160
with kind of medical and...
651
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,120
and biology degrees joined the SS.
652
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,600
You know, it...
it was astonishingly high.
653
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,280
This link between Nazism
and medicine is,
654
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,240
for him and many other medics,
a very virtuous loop.
655
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,280
So joining the SS is
a natural result of that.
656
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,400
On September the 1st, 1939,
657
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,880
the Second World War commenced.
658
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,280
Yet, initially, this event held
no immediate implications
659
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,280
for Josef Mengele's life.
660
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,480
- Mengele was exempted
from the draft
661
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,080
because of his important
position with Verschuer.
662
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,320
But in, I believe,
later that spring,
663
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,120
early summer of 1940,
he joins the... the Army.
664
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,040
He doesn't like the experience.
665
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,920
He decides that he will
join the Waffen SS.
666
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,120
- Mengele joins
an SS engineering battalion.
667
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,080
He's a junior officer.
668
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:12,000
And he's also the medic
with his unit.
669
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,400
He was part
of the Fifth SS Viking Division.
670
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,720
- In June of 1941,
671
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,920
the German Army decides
to invade the Soviet Union.
672
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,560
Mengele's unit is at the very...
673
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,480
south of the southern sector.
674
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,800
So they're in the south of Ukraine,
675
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,200
and he moves
with his unit to the front.
676
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,800
- Now, he has not got
a lot of experience of surgery.
677
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,480
He even writes back asking
for someone to send him
678
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,280
a kind of physician's,
surgeon's handbook.
679
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,680
- He writes to his wife and says,
680
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,160
"I have to treat
all of these soldiers here.
681
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,120
And, you know, I'm...
I'm a racial doctor.
682
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,120
I'm not a...
I'm not a general practitioner,
683
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,840
and it's a little too much for me.
684
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,360
And I could...
could use the... the help."
685
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,800
Because he... he treated
as a battalion physician,
686
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,920
he... he wasn't treating
necessarily wounded people,
687
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,760
except maybe first aid for wound.
688
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,320
But he treated them
for bunions on their feet
689
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,800
or for intestinal disorders
or normal problems
690
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,680
that people
of that age group would have.
691
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,640
And so, he was confronted
with a medical challenge
692
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,600
that he wasn't really
experienced at doing.
693
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,080
He was looking at people,
the shape of people's eyes
694
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,080
and not figuring out
what kind of malady they had.
695
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,000
So... So,
his wife sends him the book.
696
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,520
- Mengele started his war
campaign in Russia.
697
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,800
Germany against Russia
wasn't a typical war.
698
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,600
It was more like political war.
699
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,920
And the aim of both parties,
700
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,480
especially Nazi Germany,
701
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,440
was to destroy the enemy.
702
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,520
- He was involved in this unit...
703
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,720
throughout the first
18 months of the War.
704
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,680
Mengele saw constant
and unrelenting action,
705
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,480
um... as part of this,
uh... combat unit,
706
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,200
often in... in the very front
of the German advance.
707
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,920
We know from records
that he distinguished himself,
708
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,400
that he received
an Iron Cross second class,
709
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,800
and then, later on,
an Iron Cross first class.
710
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,960
- I believe he saw
all the atrocities of the War,
711
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,360
not only as a doctor,
but as a soldier.
712
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,680
We know about
the countless war crimes
713
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,800
committed on the Russian front
by the Einsatzgruppen,
714
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,840
the Wehrmacht, and the Waffen SS.
715
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,960
- We can certainly say
716
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,480
that the experience of the front
changed him profoundly.
717
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,520
- This is an SS division going
around slaughtering Jews.
718
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,000
This is going around
hanging partisan.
719
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,880
This is performing
some of the most savage
720
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,760
and bestial acts you can imagine.
721
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,360
What we don't know is specifically
722
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,960
whether Mengele took part
in any of these actions himself.
723
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,120
I think that's unlikely.
724
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,840
But there's no doubt that,
as it does to a lot of people,
725
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,320
the experience of war
really brutalised Josef Mengele.
726
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,840
- He has learned about violence.
727
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,080
He's not just heard about it,
but he has seen it,
728
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:22,920
perhaps even participated in it.
729
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,480
And then, he gets used to it.
730
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,160
He gets brutalised, hardened to it,
731
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,280
and then, it's easy to replicate it.
732
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,640
- You look at some
of the witness testimony
733
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,880
about Mengele's behaviour
at Auschwitz,
734
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,800
there are instances
of almost spontaneous violence
735
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,000
without any proximate cause,
you know?
736
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,320
Kind of just, uh...
737
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,560
..walking up to someone
and shooting them, or...
738
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,640
or extreme cruelty,
739
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,320
even not behind the...
the curtain of science,
740
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,600
but just... just sadism.
741
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,280
Then, you must also,
I think, believe
742
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,120
that there was something
that happened to him
743
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,760
because his earlier life didn't
744
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,360
exhibit any
of these characteristics.
745
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,280
- We've seen that he's been
influenced by the ideas of medicine,
746
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,760
such as eugenics, racial hygiene.
747
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,360
That's enough to send you
on a pretty murderous path.
748
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,440
But then, you send someone
with that... now that philosophy
749
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,400
into one of the most violent fronts
750
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,360
that's ever been in any war,
751
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,960
and you put them
into all that violence and atrocity,
752
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,920
you're brutalising them.
753
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,200
In mid-January 1943,
754
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,880
Mengele was deemed unfit
for service...
755
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,680
..likely due to injury,
though the specifics remain unclear.
756
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,320
Consequently, he was transferred
from the front lines
757
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,000
and returned to Berlin.
758
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Wasting no time,
he promptly contacted his mentor,
759
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,920
Otmar von Verschuer,
760
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,000
who had taken over the leadership
761
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,920
of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute
for Anthropology in Berlin.
762
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,760
- The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute was
763
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,960
one of the leading, uh...
genetic research institutes.
764
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Verschuer writes to Fischer,
who is his mentor, in a way.
765
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,680
And he says, "I've heard
from my former assistant Mengele,
766
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,520
who has just been air evacuated
767
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from around the Stalingrad debacle."
768
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Mengele then finds a kind
of collegial home at the Institute.
769
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He's not a formal member
of the Institute,
770
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,960
but he spends a lot of time there.
771
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,600
NARRATOR: And von Verschuer's
greatest influence
772
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,360
on Mengele came in 1943
773
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,200
when he instructed him
to go to Auschwitz.
774
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,480
For Verschuer,
Auschwitz was an endless source
775
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,000
of subjects for his experiments,
776
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,920
particularly those conducted
on twins.
777
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,760
- Generally, the SS doctors
or the Nazi doctors,
778
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,120
they perceived concentration camps
779
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,240
as, uh... opportunity
780
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,920
to use more human materials
for their own research.
781
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,680
- Mengele certainly sees Auschwitz
as a new career prospect.
782
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,560
Here, he could continue
his own research...
783
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,200
and send all the samples
von Verschuer needed
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to the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.
785
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,440
- And what Verschuer did, both in
Frankfurt and then later in Berlin,
786
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was he created a registry of twins.
787
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,160
He had contacts
in all of the hospitals, and so,
788
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,360
if a twin was born,
they would register it in a card.
789
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,880
- This environment is going to offer
790
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,920
huge opportunities
to study humanity,
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00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,800
but to study humanity
792
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,720
without any moral breaks at all,
793
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,480
with no moral limits.
794
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,960
You can do what you want.
795
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,560
- If we can kill...
796
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,560
..animals for food, for a meat,
797
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:09,160
why we can't kill people
for a goodness of science?
798
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,520
I got to Auschwitz
799
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,000
sometime in the middle
of October 1942 from Sachsenhausen.
800
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,600
They loaded us into a wagon.
801
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,280
The train then stood in Katowice,
802
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,680
and some railwaymen appeared beside.
803
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,840
So I asked them, "Where are we?"
804
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,840
And they said, "In Katowice.
805
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,840
Auschwitz. Wrong, wrong.
806
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,960
Gas, gas, gas."
807
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,200
- On the 30th of May, 1943,
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00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,360
SS Captain Josef Mengele walks
809
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,400
through the gates of Auschwitz.
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00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:52,680
The story
of Josef Mengele continues.
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In the next episode, we will witness
how this man transforms
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00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,760
into the "Angel of Death,"
813
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,520
one of the most chilling symbols
of the Holocaust.
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00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,240
- This is the very heart
of the Mengele story right here.
815
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,520
It... It's the ultimate inversion
816
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,920
of... of what medicine
should be about.
817
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,480
- As I looked around,
I realised that my father
818
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,520
and my two older sisters
were not with us.
819
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,040
They disappeared in the crowd.
820
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,000
Never, ever did I see them again.
821
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,440
- "You, the left. You to the right.
822
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,960
How old are you?"
"I'm... I'm...
823
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,040
I'm 72."
824
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,760
"You in good shape?
825
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,960
Well, over there."
826
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,120
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