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The Sky At Night is back,
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bringing you the latest
in all things astronomical.
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There's been a lot going on
since our last episode,
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and one particular object
caught our eye.
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The biggest story to hit the news
since we've been off air
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was about an asteroid
called 2024 YR4.
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The City Killer,
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an asteroid that had the potential
of hitting Earth in 2032.
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The headlines were everywhere.
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BBC NEWS THEME
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Now, an asteroid spotted late last
year is now being carefully tracked.
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Scientists are trying to work out
whether there's a chance of it
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hitting the Earth.
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Astronomers estimate that
the space rock is roughly
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the size of a football field.
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Suddenly, the night sky
wasn't a place of comfort.
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With that asteroid out there
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and its potential to change life
as we know it,
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looking up at the night sky wasn't
a place of quiet contemplation,
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but a place to fear.
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So the level of damage
that an asteroid the same size
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as 2024 YR4 could cause,
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it really depends on where it hits.
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We're probably talking about
the destruction of a city,
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were it to hit the land.
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Something you really don't want
landing on top of you.
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Not enough to wipe out dinosaurs
or cause a global shift in climate,
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but big enough that
you want to avoid it, for sure.
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But what lies behind the headlines?
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And are we prepared
for an asteroid strike?
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Welcome to The Sky At Night.
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On a beautiful day like today,
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it's easy to forget
that beyond that gorgeous sky,
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there could be legitimate
threats heading our way.
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I'm not talking about aliens.
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Obviously, I'm talking
about asteroids.
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Now we actually get hit
by asteroids every single day.
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In fact,
in any given 24-hour period,
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we might get hit by roughly 73
Earthling cows' worth of material.
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So why aren't we fussed about this?
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Well, the scale of this material
is such
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that it's like a sprinkling of dust,
mostly just burning up in
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the atmosphere
and not even reaching the ground.
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Bigger things do hit us too.
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The asteroid that wiped out
the dinosaurs a while back
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was tens of kilometres across,
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and something that size
is expected to hit us
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roughly every
100 million years.
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But between these extremes,
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mass extinction event,
rather nice light show,
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you have your midsize asteroids.
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Now your midsize asteroid
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could cause a heat blast
capable of vaporising solid rock.
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We're talking wind speeds
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five times the
strongest hurricanes.
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We're talking a shock wave
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that could flatten buildings
for hundreds of miles.
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That would mean a city the size
of London and the surrounding areas,
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maybe even as far as Kent, gone.
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Now, at the start of this year,
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we thought there was just such
an asteroid coming our way
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when Asteroid 2024 YR4 was spotted.
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Now, at the time, it was still
over 30 million miles away,
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but it looked like it was on course
to collide with us in 2032.
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It has since been downgraded,
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and we're now pretty confident it's
actually going to be a near miss.
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However, what it did provide is
a practice run, like a fire drill,
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or even an asteroid drill,
if you will,
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so that when the real threat
does come along, we know what to do.
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When YR4 was discovered,
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it was no more than a dot moving
amongst the background stars.
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And even once it had been found,
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it was just one of a million
asteroids in our books.
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So what was special about this one?
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To explain, I've come to
a football pitch, obviously,
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where I'm meeting my old friend,
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planetary scientist,
Dr Meg Schwamb.
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Hey! Hey!
we've talked about football a lot,
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so I thought you were
the perfect person
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to bring here
and talk about YR4.
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When we were watching the odds
of it hitting the Earth go up,
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I did think of it like watching
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a striker's shot
head towards the goal.
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Yeah, definitely, exactly
that playing out, right?
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I think as the world,
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but also astronomers
sitting there watching, right,
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waiting to see
as they got more data,
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as you get closer to that goal,
right,
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of whether it's going to go in
or in this case,
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we really want it to miss.
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Yes, that's the unusual bit.
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But let's go back to the beginning.
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2024 YR4's an asteroid.
But what are asteroids?
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Asteroids are the debris left over
after planet formation.
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Most are between Mars and Jupiter.
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Some get disturbed in their orbits
and get sent inward.
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That potentially can be an orbit
that will cross the Earth.
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On the 27th of December 2024,
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YR4 was first spotted
by a telescope in Chile,
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as nothing more than
a faint point of light.
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It soon gathered a lot of attention,
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as calculations showed it had around
a 1% chance of hitting Earth.
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So in January,
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other astronomers jumped on this
and started trying to observe it.
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Everybody was jumping on it.
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Amateur astronomers,
anyone with a telescope
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that had time was jumping on this
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because very few objects
have jumped above that 1%.
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And when it hits that level
for the size
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that we thought
this object might be,
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which is about 30m to 90m,
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that's when we start worrying,
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because that's where you could do
damage on a city scale.
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What happened to the odds
of YR4 hitting us?
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It went up and it went up a lot.
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It went from about 1.2% to 2.8
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or over 3% roughly.
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And so that might feel really scary,
right?
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So it IS interesting,
I think, the fact that we went from
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a low probability and then it rose
before dropping off.
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I think it's easy
to get the impression
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that somebody made an error,
but that's not what happened.
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No. It's really trying to
understand where right in space
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the Earth is compared to
where we think
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all the possible orbits
that this object could have.
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Well, I really think we can
explain this with football,
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but I decided neither you
nor I should kick a ball.
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Definitely not.
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I've got some students here.
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Gabe! Gabe! Come here.
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I feel like we're bringing
on a substitute.
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Someone much better skilled!
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So if we get Gabe to kick
the ball towards the goal.
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At first, we don't have much
information about where it's going,
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whether it's going in or not.
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Tracking the asteroid after it was
first spotted is like freezing
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the ball just after Gabe kicks it.
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It might go in the goal,
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but the goal makes up
just one small part of the area
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the ball could end up in.
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For YR4, the odds
of hitting Earth were 1%.
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No, we've got
an initial idea of position, right?
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Right when it's kicked,
we have an idea of the velocity,
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but it can go any direction.
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But a little bit later on
we've got more information
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as the ball heads towards the goal.
Right.
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Because if you could just stop
the ball for a second in midair,
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you now can see more
of where it's headed.
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You have extra information,
another data point, right?
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You have another position,
another possible velocity.
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This additional data
narrows the ellipse,
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removing much of the area
outside the goal.
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The goal now takes up
more of the remaining ellipse,
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and so the odds of a hit go up.
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Things are getting exciting.
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For YR4, it was over 3%.
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And that's what happened here.
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We ruled out parts of space
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where the Earth wasn't, and so
the probability of impact went up.
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And then if we let
the shot play out...
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..the third freeze frame shows
the ellipses reduce down again.
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We're now sure the ball
will miss the goal...
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Bad luck, Gabe!
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..and YR4 will miss the Earth.
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And it was observations from one
of the most advanced telescopes
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on Earth that told us that
this asteroid...would not score.
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And so we have the additional data
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from the Very Large Telescope
helped,
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because that helped with all
the other observations
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to give us enough
of the trajectory
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to show it's going to come close,
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but it's just going to eke away
and not hit the goal.
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But it's still close,
it's not like it missed by miles.
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No, and there's even
a small chance
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this object could still hit
the moon.
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That'd be pretty spectacular,
wouldn't it?
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Yes, but not threaten the Earth
in any way?
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No. It would just be a good show.
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If we even see it, it might be
the far side of the moon
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and we see nothing.
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I promised I'd say, by the way,
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that Gabe missed that
on purpose for us.
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But I think the demo really works,
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and it's good to know
that YR4, too, is missing. Yeah.
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But the threat is still there.
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There's many other objects
of the size
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that can do damage to cities
that we still don't know about.
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But the nice thing is
there are telescopes searching
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the skies nightly to try
to find these objects.
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I enjoyed that. Good.
It's a bit like Ted Lasso.
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We brought in an American
to explain football to us!
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MEG LAUGHS
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While multiple observations
allowed us to confidently predict
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a miss for YR4,
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one day,
there WILL be a direct hit.
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So what can we do if we know
an asteroid strike is imminent?
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Maggie's taking
a tea break to explain.
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MAGGIE: Hollywood movies are
full of ideas
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of how we might handle
an asteroid strike.
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But in the world of reality,
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what tools do we have
in our toolkit?
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Well, to understand this,
I'm going to use this
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as the asteroid
and this as planet Earth.
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Now the challenge is the asteroid
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is heading straight towards
the Earth.
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So what can we do to deflect it?
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Well, there's a number
of different techniques out there.
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And the first one
is the nudge method.
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So... Oh, sorry, they're good.
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The first one is
where you want to use
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a projectile to hit the asteroid.
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When this happens, we'll transfer
some momentum to the asteroid.
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And it will be deflected
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and hopefully,
won't hit planet Earth.
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And the great thing
about this method
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is that it's already been tested.
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In 2022, the DART mission flew
into an asteroid, Dimorphos,
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changing its orbit significantly.
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But there are
a few problems with this.
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Firstly, how much of
a nudge do we need?
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If we don't nudge far enough,
we'll still get an impact.
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And if we nudge too far,
for smaller asteroids,
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they might crumble and break up
into many pieces.
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Not good.
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The second technique I want
to talk about involves this.
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Yeah, it's a tractor,
but it's a gravity tractor.
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So this will actually be
a spaceship which will fly
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alongside the asteroid.
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Its gravitational force will pull
the asteroid towards it.
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This will again cause a deflection.
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The gravitational tractor technique
is quite desirable
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because we don't actually impact
the asteroid at all.
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It just sits alongside it
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and uses that gravitational force
to deflect it.
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But the problem is,
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we can't put anything
too massive in space.
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And so as it's causing
the deflection,
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it needs to do that
for quite some time
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to make sure that the asteroid
will miss planet Earth.
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Now our last technique is usually
what Hollywood go for.
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And it involves using
a nuclear bomb.
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Now, if the asteroid is quite close
to Earth and we don't
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have much time, using something
like DART to move the asteroid away
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might not be enough.
And that's where the nuke comes in.
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We can embed the nuke into
the asteroid and then blow it up.
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We crush up the asteroid.
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SHE LAUGHS
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I'm making a bit of a mess!
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But we need to be careful
with this technique,
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because now, instead of just
one lump heading towards Earth,
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we have multiple lumps
heading towards Earth,
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which means they'll have
a greater impact area,
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potentially affecting
many more people.
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Now, to understand which
of these tools we can use
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for an asteroid strike, we need
to get a better understanding
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of the asteroid.
One I prepared earlier!
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And it's almost as if we need an eye
in the sky.
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Cue the James Webb Space Telescope.
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When ground-based telescopes
look up at space,
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they have
the atmosphere to contend with.
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This means that images get blurred
and measurements get distorted.
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But JWST gets around this.
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By sitting a million miles
above the atmosphere,
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its highly specialised mirrors
can capture even
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the faintest
amounts of infrared light,
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allowing for incredible accuracy.
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It's further helped by
an extreme cooling system.
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The spectrograph on board JWST
is cooled to just seven degrees
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above absolute zero.
All of this allows JWST
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to completely zone in on
an object with minimal interference,
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which means astronomers can measure
the sizes of incoming asteroids
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to a level of precision just not
feasible from the ground.
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And in March, observations
from JWST revealed why R4
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was about 60 metres across.
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A detail no ground-based telescope
was able to supply.
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This key information will be
invaluable
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for any future
asteroid strikes.
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So, we know something's coming
and we know what size.
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But another thing we might want
to know is, what's it made of?
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MISSION CONTROL: Three, two, one,
lift-off!
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Luckily, there is one mission
that can provide some answers.
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Atlas V takes flight.
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Sending Lucy to uncover
the fossils of our solar system.
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Launched in 2021,
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the Lucy mission is on
a journey to explore
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a record breaking number
of asteroids in our solar system.
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With 11 asteroids to explore,
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the Lucy mission is on course
to provide us with
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a whole new understanding of
the smorgasbord of asteroid types
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that could be headed our way.
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I'm meeting Dr Carly Howett,
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who has worked on the mission
from the very beginning.
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Let's talk about Lucy! Let's.
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Now, obviously when we think about
asteroids, we think asteroid belt.
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But that's not where Lucy's going
to end up going?
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That's right.
The asteroid belt's very cool.
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Lots of good science there.
But we're going to a different set
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of asteroids. So these are known
as Jupiter's trojan asteroids,
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but they're not orbiting Jupiter.
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They're sort of
orbiting with Jupiter.
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So why these ones in particular?
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What's special about them
versus the asteroid belt?
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Well, this region of space
that they exist in are known as
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Lagrangian points. And they're
really stable regions of space.
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If you get caught there,
the gravity of the situation
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all sort of cancels out, basically,
there's not a way, an easy way out.
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And so we think
when the solar system was formed
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and debris was flying everywhere,
anything that got caught
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in these regions
of space got stuck there.
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And so they're sort of giving us
a little glimpse back
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in what life could have been like
in the very early solar system.
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By observing more
and more asteroids,
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we can build our understanding
of what could be heading our way.
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So what do we know already
about these objects?
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Are we able to categorise them
at all? A little bit, yeah.
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So we can see things from the Earth.
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We've got telescopes that point at
the sky, and largely they fall into
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a certain number of categories. So
there are things like iron asteroids
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that we think were probably
the beginnings of a planet,
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but the outside got lost, and so
we're left with this iron core,
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a bit like what would happen on
the Earth if it lost everything
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above its core. You then have sort
of stony, pebbly asteroids that,
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erm, that might be held together
quite loosely.
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And then, what we're looking at
with the Lucy mission,
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which are primitive asteroids.
So asteroids that have stayed
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a long way from the Sun,
they haven't had that thermal change
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that the Sun might produce, and we
don't really know what's going on
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in their interior. And that's
something we're going to go
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and try and find out.
So when we understand more about
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each of those classes, we'll have
a better idea of, in the future,
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if something is perhaps going
to be a bit of a threat,
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how to categorise it.
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So how is Lucy going
to be telling us more about
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what these asteroids are made of,
then?
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So it's a difficult thing to see
inside an asteroid,
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especially if you're doing a flyby.
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But we can tell a lot just
by looking at the surface.
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So we have some cameras,
we have black and white cameras
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and colour cameras,
but we also have ways
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of understanding
what the composition is.
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So we have an infrared
spectrometer which measures
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those compositional fingerprints.
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And we can understand what
the surface is made from, from that.
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And then we have
a thermal camera on there as well.
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And so by putting all of these
pieces of information together,
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along with the brightness
and the shape, and all
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that sort of good stuff,
we're going to be able to get
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a really good idea of
what's going on in these asteroids
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in a way that we haven't been able
to until now.
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How does this help us
in the context of maybe
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a future YR4-type threat?
So the more we know about asteroids,
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the better. So if we understand
what they're made from,
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if we understand
what they typically look like,
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all of those things can help us
develop our models of how these
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asteroids evolve in their orbits
over a matter of time.
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So when something starts threatening
the Earth,
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it comes close to the Earth,
the details matter.
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If we can know what they look like,
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if we know
what their interiors are like,
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we can start modelling
those very fine effects
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in a lot better detail.
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When we get all this
information about these asteroids,
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how does it help us reduce
the unknown unknowns?
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That's the $64 million question,
right?
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One of
the things that's really important,
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if you want to deflect an asteroid,
is to think about how well
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the grains are
in touch with each other.
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You can imagine if you have
something that's basically
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like little polystyrene balls
that are just touching,
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held together with gravity
or maybe static,
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and you could just shove your way
through them, right? But if you have
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something that's clumped together,
if it's really sort of
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like an iron core, that's going
to be a lot easier to move as one,
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right? If you shove it, the whole
thing's going to move
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rather than collapse. And so when we
start to think about how to deflect
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or how to interact with asteroids
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that are potentially
a threat to Earth,
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understanding what they're made
of and how they're held together
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is going to be really,
really important.
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The Lucy spacecraft is currently
passing through
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the asteroid belt towards Jupiter,
and taking in some sights
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along the way.
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In 2023,
it passed asteroid Dinkinesh,
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discovering it also had two moons.
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Not unknown for an asteroid,
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but new objects
that further our knowledge.
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So what is the next big thing
for Lucy, then?
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Well, on Easter Sunday,
so easy to remember,
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we're going to be flying past
our next main-belt asteroid.
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So this one is Donaldjohanson.
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It's larger than Dinkinesh
that we flew by before.
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Why is Donaldjohanson exciting,
then?
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Well, any time you see something new
in the solar system,
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you learn lots of things
that you didn't even know to ask.
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So there's just pure exploration,
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but we see that the way it reflects
the light's really interesting.
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So we think it's either
a really interesting shape
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or perhaps it has a moon,
we'll find out.
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Very exciting, then!
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It's reassuring to know
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that our understanding of
these potential threats is growing,
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but if an asteroid was
on course to strike,
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who will do something about it?
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Or who are we going to call?
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Maggie's in Southampton to find out.
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It turns out that
astronomy is pretty good
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at working out
the odds of an asteroid strike,
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but that might be the easy bit.
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After that comes
a complex discussion
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involving philosophy, ethics
and geopolitics.
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I'm meeting Professor Hugh Lewis,
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who represents the UK on a global
approach to asteroid threats.
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Nice to meet you.
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We're sitting here
sort of surrounded by these flags.
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I guess this is a global threat,
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and so you are part of a network,
a global network,
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that is considering this
and looking at this
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and trying to assess
these challenges.
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Yeah, so after the incident
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involving the asteroid over Russia,
Chelyabinsk...
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Yes. ..more than a decade ago now,
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that really prompted the United
Nations to take some action.
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The UN were reacting
to an 18-metre asteroid
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that flashed across Chelyabinsk
in 2013.
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It released the equivalent energy
of 20 atomic bombs
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and created a shock wave
that injured 1,500 people.
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It was a stark reminder of
the threat that asteroids can pose.
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The United Nations recommended
the creation of two groups.
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One was the International
Asteroid Warning Network,
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and that's the group of
scientists and facilities
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that would observe the solar system
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and identify
the potentially hazardous objects
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and then issue warnings.
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And then the second group
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is the Space Mission
Planning Advisory Group,
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commonly referred to as SMPAG,
erm...
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and that's the group
that I was a member of.
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I see, yes. And this was the group
of engineers, scientists and experts
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who would consider
how we would go about deflecting
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or mitigating the threat from
an asteroid using a space mission.
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I think one of the challenges is
that often many countries
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are exposed to a risk
for an asteroid impact.
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Yes. And the problem is
is that those countries
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don't necessarily have
the capability to take action.
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Yes. So they have to rely
upon other countries who do,
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and that means that we need to have
that international response
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and community that works together.
Yes.
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An asteroid is heading
towards a country
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that doesn't have
a space capability,
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so it's reliant on those that do,
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and any space capability
will be quite expensive.
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So weighing those two up
seems a challenge. Yeah.
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It is, and I think
that's one of the key aspects
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of the involvement through
the United Nations
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and the international community
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to understand that particular issue
and to try and address it.
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Right. Gosh, it's a quagmire.
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Are there conferences on
things like this?
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Yeah, so every two years,
scientists and engineers
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get together for the
Planetary Defence Conference.
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That sounds like...the Planetary
Defence League, superheroes!
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Yeah, I guess you can see it
in that way.
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These are people who are trying to
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understand the threat
from asteroids
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and what to do about it.
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So, at these conferences,
what sort of things do they do?
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This particular conference
is really quite unusual,
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because they run
a kind of a simulated exercise,
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where they create an asteroid,
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an asteroid that has
a potential impact with Earth,
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and they ask the participants at the
conference to play particular roles.
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It could be journalist,
it could be scientist, erm...
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it could be, erm...
you know, part of the government.
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And then they present you with
the information about the asteroid
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in kind of pieces, they give you a
little bit of information at a time,
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and you have to make decisions.
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Yes, so drip-feed the information,
as it would be in a real situation.
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Exactly right. Right.
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And then in some cases,
the asteroid ultimately misses,
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yet you still have to run through
the scenarios
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and make sensible decisions.
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And in some cases,
the asteroid does hit.
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And I think it really does
showcase the fact
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that whenever we're dealing
with this particular threat,
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it's never certain.
486
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:06,380
There's always a chance
that it misses us.
487
00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:09,500
But if we don't know that
for absolute certain,
488
00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:11,900
an absolute certainty is
a hard thing to get.
489
00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:13,540
And it's that kind of scenario that
they use
490
00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:15,060
at the Planetary Defence Conference.
491
00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:17,020
It's never, "It's a huge asteroid,
492
00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:20,060
"it's definitely going to hit,
what do we do?" Yes!
493
00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:22,460
You have to kind of really consider
what the...
494
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:24,420
..not just what the numbers
are telling you,
495
00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:28,260
but what the moral imperative is
in terms of protecting the planet.
496
00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:32,060
That's why it's called
"planetary defence", not UK defence.
497
00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:34,260
Yes! And so the fact
that we are working together,
498
00:23:34,260 --> 00:23:36,060
I find quite comforting.
499
00:23:37,180 --> 00:23:40,140
CHRIS: While space can seem like
a violent, scary place...
500
00:23:42,780 --> 00:23:45,500
..it's good to stop, look up
501
00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:47,740
and enjoy our beautiful universe,
502
00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:49,220
asteroids and all.
503
00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:55,260
You can even see a few yourselves.
504
00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:58,300
Our resident stargazer, Pete,
is on hand to guide us
505
00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:01,660
through some of the upcoming
highlights in the night sky.
506
00:24:01,660 --> 00:24:04,820
For amateur astronomers,
the big news while we were off air
507
00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:09,020
was the display of planets
that were out in force.
508
00:24:09,020 --> 00:24:12,180
Now most of them are
disappearing from view,
509
00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:15,340
but Jupiter and Mars
are still there to spot,
510
00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:17,780
visible in the early evening sky.
511
00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:21,460
Jupiter is especially obvious,
512
00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:26,140
low above the west-northwest
horizon as darkness falls.
513
00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:29,100
It can be seen in conjunction
with a beautifully thin,
514
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:33,540
13%-lit waxing crescent moon
on the 30th of April.
515
00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:36,260
A wonderful sight
if the weather is clear.
516
00:24:36,260 --> 00:24:40,340
Another easy spot this month
is the Lyrid meteor shower,
517
00:24:40,340 --> 00:24:43,660
and this even has a tenuous link
to asteroids,
518
00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:46,620
because the bodies
which create the debris stream
519
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:49,380
which passes through
the Earth's atmosphere
520
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:51,060
to create a meteor shower,
521
00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:53,940
are comets or sometimes asteroids.
522
00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:58,380
A meteor shower's radiant is
the small area of sky
523
00:24:58,380 --> 00:25:01,060
its meteors appear to emanate from,
524
00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:04,300
which in this case is near
the bright star Vega.
525
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:08,300
The shower reaches its peak around
midday on the 22nd of April,
526
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,580
meaning the best nights for a watch
will be
527
00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:14,300
the nights of the 21st of April
into the morning of the 22nd,
528
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:17,620
and the 22nd of April
into the morning of the 23rd,
529
00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:20,900
with the most activity seen
just before dawn.
530
00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:24,460
Watching Lyrid meteors
is a fairly relaxed affair.
531
00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:26,660
All you have to do
is make yourself comfortable,
532
00:25:26,660 --> 00:25:28,860
find a good dark location
533
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:31,100
and keep watching the sky.
534
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:35,620
Look at a height about two-thirds of
the way up the sky in any direction.
535
00:25:35,620 --> 00:25:38,740
If you want to try your luck
photographing Lyrid meteors,
536
00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:40,380
it's fairly easy to do.
537
00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:44,220
You just need a camera
with a wide-angle fast lens.
538
00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:46,940
You need to set the camera's ISO
fairly high
539
00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:49,180
and fully open the lens,
540
00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:51,340
and then just take
continuous images,
541
00:25:51,340 --> 00:25:53,340
hoping to grab a meteor trail.
542
00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:57,020
If your sky is light-polluted
and bright,
543
00:25:57,020 --> 00:25:59,580
your image may look like this.
544
00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:03,900
If so, reduce the exposure length
until they aren't overexposed
545
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,180
and you can still see stars.
546
00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:09,220
Then just let it run
for as long as you are out,
547
00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:11,980
or your batteries allow,
and see what happens.
548
00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:14,700
You never know, you might get lucky.
549
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:17,260
But it's common to take
thousands of images
550
00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:20,820
without a single meteor
on any one of them.
551
00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:22,620
But if you have more advanced kit,
552
00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:25,980
there are two actual asteroids
we'd like to point out.
553
00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:28,620
Neither of them are going to be
hitting the Earth,
554
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:31,260
but they are fairly easy to see.
555
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:33,860
The first is 4 Vesta,
556
00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:37,060
which, with a diameter of 330 miles,
557
00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:39,260
is the largest asteroid
558
00:26:39,260 --> 00:26:43,900
in the main asteroid belt
which lies between Mars and Jupiter.
559
00:26:45,660 --> 00:26:47,420
To locate the asteroid,
560
00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:49,820
use the two brightest stars
in Libra,
561
00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:52,660
Alpha Librae, or Zubenelgenubi,
562
00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:56,940
and Beta Librae, or Zubeneschamali.
563
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:59,780
Vesta will be located
in northern Libra,
564
00:26:59,780 --> 00:27:04,060
heading towards the border with
Virgo as we head into next month.
565
00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:07,980
Record the suspected star field
over several days
566
00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:10,140
where you think Vesta is located.
567
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:12,500
If you've got it right,
comparing the records
568
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:16,500
should reveal Vesta
as a moving star-like dot.
569
00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:20,620
Owners of smart telescopes
have got it easy
570
00:27:20,620 --> 00:27:24,500
as all they have to do is
search for Vesta and start imaging.
571
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:26,540
For those that like
a bit of a challenge,
572
00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:28,420
then there's 9 Metis,
573
00:27:28,420 --> 00:27:31,660
which comes to opposition
on the 9th of May.
574
00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:33,940
"Opposition "is a term
which describes
575
00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:38,100
when an object is in the opposite
position in the sky to the Sun,
576
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,900
so that means
it's the best time to see it.
577
00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:45,220
It's currently also within Libra,
578
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:48,540
and we can use the same two stars
we used to locate Vesta
579
00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:50,500
to find 9 Metis.
580
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:55,180
Just as with Vesta, record
the star field over several nights.
581
00:27:55,180 --> 00:28:00,340
Align the stars and
look for the moving object.
582
00:28:00,340 --> 00:28:02,540
Whether you're snapping Jupiter
with your phone
583
00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:05,380
or you manage to track Metis
across the sky,
584
00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:08,140
we'd love to see
any photographs you've got,
585
00:28:08,140 --> 00:28:10,580
so send them in
to our Flickr account.
586
00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:12,740
You can find details of this at
587
00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:17,580
www.bbc.co.uk/skyatnight
588
00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:20,660
and we'll show
some of our favourites.
589
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:23,500
Meanwhile, here are
some of the pictures you've sent in
590
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:25,060
while we were off air.
591
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:52,260
Happy stargazing! Goodnight.
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