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Hey, how you doing?
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Hey, just put it...
yeah, put it right there.
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You... you don't look so happy to see me.
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No, I just
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I want to just get this case behind me.
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- If today's not a good day...
- no, it's great.
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Not a problem. Not a problem.
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Great, let's start at the beginning then.
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When did you meet Abigail Tierney?
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That was a few years ago
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when she showed up
at my door pretending
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to be pregnant with my grandchild.
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Excuse me?
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Abigail and my son,
Henry, met in college.
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They got engaged, you know, fast.
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Very fast.
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Her way of breaking the
news to me was to go bigger.
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But, despite that introduction,
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I was charmed by her.
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She... she had walked a tough road,
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but she had grit.
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She was resourceful and
driven, and I admire that.
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So she and Henry
are no longer together?
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Yeah, she broke off the engagement,
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but it was amicable.
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You arranged for Abigail to have
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- a ride along with the LAPD?
- Yes, yeah.
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She was considering police work.
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I take it that didn't work out?
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- Leave her alone!
- Hey.
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It did not.
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And then, six months ago,
she was reported missing.
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What exactly happened to Abigail?
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Look, if you're going to get to
the bottom of what happened
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to that poor girl, you're going to have
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to have an open mind, a very open mind.
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Wait!
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Police.
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I wonder when that happened.
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- My god.
- Hello?
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Can you hear me?
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When did you get involved in the case?
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Not immediately.
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Most missing persons
cases aren't really cases.
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They're a roommate
who got too drunk at a bar
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and slept it off in his truck,
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or a college student whose
cell phone ran out of battery.
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You know, most of the time,
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they show up unharmed and confused
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about all the fuss.
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But this wasn't like that, was it?
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No after a few days of follow-up calls,
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we sent officers by
miss Tierney's apartment
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for a wellness check.
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Thanks again for doing this.
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Always a pleasure to
see my favorite couple.
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Let's keep this professional.
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Trouble in paradise?
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Sorry. Moving on.
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What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
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Very little.
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I mean, no signs of a struggle.
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Well, there was no sign of
her or her film equipment.
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- But we did find her laptop.
- Hold on.
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Film equipment?
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- Abigail was making a movie?
- Yes.
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- We should be safe here.
- Why are they doing this?
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Go.
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I'll try to buy us some time.
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No! No!
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No!
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Please.
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I promise I'll pay!
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I'll pay the fine!
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I only saw an early cut.
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Could've used a bit
more Gore, if you ask me.
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I didn't.
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I asked why you thought.
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Abigail's case was so compelling.
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Right.
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Because her Hollywood dream
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had become a Hollywood nightmare.
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Would you like me to take that again?
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I really wouldn't.
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When you searched Abigail's laptop,
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did you find anything on it?
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Yeah, it was filled with all of
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these unanswered
messages, nasty ones.
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The more we investigated,
it became clear
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that Abigail had a lot
of people angry with her.
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- Like who?
- Ok. Thank you.
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Thanks, Steve. Spielberg,
he's an old friend.
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I bet.
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How did you get involved
with Abigail Tierney?
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Well, you know, we're always looking
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to discover and nurture
the next generation
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of unheard voices.
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Abigail sent in a very
compelling pitch video.
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Terror isn't something
that happens to you.
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I mean, it's not every day
you find a writer, director,
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and star with that much poise.
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"Hell pd" was one of those visionary,
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artist-driven pictures that
we pride ourselves on making.
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And they're the cheapest, too, right?
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Well, hey, the lower the budget,
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the higher the profit if it's a hit.
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But the budget became an issue?
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Yeah, Abigail pitched us a
straightforward horror flick,
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but she kept changing directions.
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Please.
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The reshoots started piling up.
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And, we had to pull
the plug on the project.
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What about nurturing a
new generation of talent?
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Hey, look, there's... there's nurturing,
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and there's indulging.
I'm a businessman.
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- There's no hard feelings.
- Really?
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Because I have an email from you
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with the subject line,
"where the hell is my money,
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you lying sack... "- ok. Yeah, fine."
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A few hard feelings.
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But they were nothing
compared to some of those
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new producers she found.
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Those guys weren't playing around.
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Well, without the production company,
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Abigail had to turn to crowd funding.
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When Nolan passed
along Abigail's pitch video,
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I figured, hey, I've
always loved scary movies.
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And what's the point of having
a husband with a trust fund
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if you can't use it to support the arts?
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And it wasn't just money, was it?
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No.
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I promise I'll pay. I'll pay the fine!
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All right. Still rolling.
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Reset.
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Bravo! Bravo!
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So Abigail hired you to
compose music for her film.
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What was it like to work with her?
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Complicated.
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She's very opinionated, which I respect.
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I tried not to take it personally
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when she kept throwing
out all the music I was writing,
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but then when she
completely disappeared
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and stopped answering my phone calls
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that must have stung.
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It did until I learned
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that she walked off set
and ghosted everybody,
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not just me. Then I got worried about her.
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I do wish she paid me though.
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Hold up. You didn't get paid?
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Do you count experience?
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But it didn't provide you with
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the breakthrough you hoped.
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Even though a lot of crowdfunders
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were furious that the
rewards were going unfulfilled,
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their anger didn't manifest
into a concrete threat.
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From the suspect perspective,
we were back to square one.
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Until we discovered that
Abigail had made several trips
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- up to pelican bay.
- The prison?
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- Yes.
- To visit who?
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- A serial killer.
- Liam glasser.
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In news that should bring
some relief to the south land,
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the LAPD have
announced a major arrest
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charging Lincoln heights
native, Liam glasser,
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with the murder of ten victims
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found buried near the sepulveda dam.
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Our investigation into
glasser was a challenge.
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He used another serial
killer, Harrison novak,
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as cover for his crimes,
stashing his victims
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in novak's burial ground.
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It wasn't until we
caught glasser attempting
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to murder a new victim
that we were finally
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able to put him behind bars.
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Before we start, I just
want to make very clear
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that I'm an innocent man and the subject
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of an extraordinary
campaign of harassment
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by the LAPD, particularly
detective Nyla Harper.
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You've been charged with
the murder of ten people.
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Those horrific allegations
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have not been proven in a court of law,
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and they never will be.
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You've also been charged
with jury tampering.
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Look, if you're just going
to railroad me like the police,
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then this interview is over.
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Hold on. Hold on.
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I'm not here to talk about any of that.
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I want to talk about Abigail.
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Why did she come see you?
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To learn about west view.
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Westview psychiatric
hospital was at the center
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- of glasser's case.
- He was a patient?
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No, no, but his vending
machine company
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supplied the hospital,
and he was in and out
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of there for almost two decades.
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It's where he crossed
paths with Harrison novak
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and where he found another patient,
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Ryan dear born, to serve as a patsy.
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He used an abandoned building
at the psych hospital complex
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to torture and kill his victims.
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Did Abigail ask about
the abandoned ward?
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Yes, but I couldn't
help her much because
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- I've never been there myself.
- Obviously not.
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But I told her what I had heard,
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that the place is haunted,
which is obviously crazy.
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But when I was a kid,
I would join my father
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on his service calls to west view.
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And he always told me to
stay away from that building.
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Something inside clearly
scared the hell out of him.
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And he was not a superstitious man.
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The thing that we couldn't understand
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was how Abigail had found
out about glasser's connection
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to the psych ward in the first place.
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It wasn't public knowledge?
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No, we kept those details
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away from the press deliberately.
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The only people who knew
were glasser and the police.
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And obviously, glasser wouldn't
admit to being down there.
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Which means?
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What they don't tell
you about making movies
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is that it's really boring.
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It's worse than surveillance.
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Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking
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about my recent casework,
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and it's possible I may
have mentioned something
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about the psych ward.
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From Abigail's notes, we gathered
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that she essentially abandoned
her movie for a new project.
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That was shortly after
a meeting with glasser.
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Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling
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was disconnected from
real, lived experience.
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So that's when she decided
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to make a true crime
documentary about west view.
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Westview psychiatric
hospital opened in 1953.
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It started as a model of
modern, humane care.
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But what lies beneath?
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The deeper I dug, the
more horrors I unearthed,
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mysteries that defied explanation.
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How can one hospital
spawn two serial killers?
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Some might say it's bad luck,
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but I don't believe in bad luck.
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I think there's something rotten here,
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original sin, and I'm going to prove it.
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The footage on Abigail's hard drive
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shows her inside west
view's abandoned ward.
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Was that open to the public?
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No, after LAPD and FBI
finished processing the scene,
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the hospital put up a razor wire fence
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and hired a security guard
for 24-hour surveillance
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to keep intruders out.
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But that clearly didn't work.
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Clearly, so we sent
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a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
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- Mr. Ditweiler.
- Yeah.
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We're investigating the disappearance
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of Abigail Tierney.
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Hey!
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Hey!
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Stop!
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Hands behind your back. Hands.
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At first, Carl ditweiler
claimed he did nothing wrong,
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that he never met Abigail.
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This is it.
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But when we searched his office,
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it was clear he was lying.
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Nolan.
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No.
266
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Abigail had become his obsession.
267
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Yeah, things didn't look
good for Mr. Ditweiler.
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And based on his
board, it was clear he had
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become obsessed with Abigail.
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And, you know, maybe
she rejected his advances,
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- and things went sideways.
- It was sobering.
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I held out hopes that
Abigail might still be alive,
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but I've been on the
job long enough to know
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that the odds were against that.
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Do you know how
they first crossed paths?
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Actually, it was Abigail
that first initiated contact.
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She was researching
the abandoned psych ward
278
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for a documentary, and Carl
was the nighttime security guard.
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She wanted access on the dl,
and she reached out, and she
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- flirted.
- Flirted.
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She flirted with him, and
he agreed to let her in.
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I just showed her around.
283
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I told her some stories, things that
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had gone on there back in the day.
285
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She was impressed.
286
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She actually asked me to
help her with her documentary.
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Said she'd give me a credit on the film.
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Single card.
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If you're innocent, why'd you run?
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Because I get what it looks like.
291
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I was the last person to see
her before she disappeared.
292
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How do you know that?
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Because I watched the
darkness swallow her up.
294
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You know, I bet they were
doing all kinds of sick things
295
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to patients back in the day,
296
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things that would be illegal now.
297
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Yeah, yeah, I know. They
used to do lobotomies.
298
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One of the orderlies told me about it.
299
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He's worked here for, like, forever.
300
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Do you think you could
introduce me to him?
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Yeah, I guess.
302
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I just... obviously, you can't tell him
303
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that I've let you in here.
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Come on, Carl. I would never rat you out.
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We're friends, right?
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Did you hear that?
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We're friends.
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Do you hear that?
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What? No.
310
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That noise, it's a weird,
sort of beautiful sound.
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You really don't hear it?
312
00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:18,066
No, no, but this building makes
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all kinds of weird noises.
314
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Hey, I just got to go
back to the main building,
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radio security, let them
know that I'm at my post.
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You go ahead. I'm
going to go check this out.
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What did you make of the
sound Abigail described?
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We weren't sure.
319
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I mean, Carl claimed
to have never heard it.
320
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It's possible that she was faking
321
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to juice up her documentary.
322
00:13:36,570 --> 00:13:39,296
We've actually analyzed
some of the audio files
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from Carl's video,
324
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isolated the low-end frequencies.
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Here.
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What is that?
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I was hoping you could tell me.
328
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- It sounds...
- Demonic.
329
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Is that even a frequency
humans can hear?
330
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Not technically, no.
331
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Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear,
332
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Abigail kept searching.
333
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Are you sure about this?
334
00:14:04,390 --> 00:14:05,406
Yeah, I'll be right back.
335
00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:08,196
Hello? Hello?
336
00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:10,286
Can you hear me?
337
00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:12,456
And that was the last
anyone had seen her.
338
00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,286
But Carl could have
just turned off his camera
339
00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:15,586
and then killed Abigail, right?
340
00:14:15,610 --> 00:14:17,626
We couldn't rule him out as a suspect,
341
00:14:17,650 --> 00:14:20,756
but we only had circumstantial
evidence against him.
342
00:14:20,780 --> 00:14:21,926
And as we went through the footage
343
00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:23,836
on Abigail's laptop, we discovered
344
00:14:23,860 --> 00:14:25,216
that flirting with Carl wasn't her only
345
00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,136
- extreme research tactic.
- I'm going to start this.
346
00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,766
Should I turn into it?
347
00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:33,596
I'm going to turn into it.
348
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Ok, I'm back at west view,
349
00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:37,646
and if I'm going to learn more about how
350
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the old psych ward operated,
351
00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,816
I'm going to need to see their files.
352
00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,816
Obviously, we can't just
walk around filming people.
353
00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:50,446
So... See? It's a cam.
354
00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:52,366
See?
355
00:14:52,390 --> 00:14:53,730
Ok.
356
00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,280
Wish me luck.
357
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,626
Abigail had Carl lure the director away
358
00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:04,950
from her office so
Abigail could sneak inside.
359
00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,816
Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name
360
00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,696
in Abigail's footage
was definitely a shock.
361
00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,776
You both have a history
with miss hall, is that right?
362
00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,156
Yes, so she and I
went to college together.
363
00:15:33,180 --> 00:15:37,576
And her and Tim... I'm sorry.
364
00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,376
Yeah, we used to date.
365
00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,876
Before or after you two?
366
00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:42,126
Ok, next question.
367
00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:44,876
I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
368
00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,046
No problem. I'll just ask her later.
369
00:15:47,070 --> 00:15:49,176
I, worked in the psych ward
370
00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,966
at west view for a year while
getting my social work degree.
371
00:15:52,990 --> 00:15:55,636
It was, challenging.
372
00:15:55,660 --> 00:15:56,686
How so?
373
00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:58,312
Well, for one thing, the patients
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00:15:58,336 --> 00:16:01,146
would often arrive at
the facility with, say,
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00:16:01,170 --> 00:16:03,276
a diagnosis of mild depression,
376
00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:07,276
and a week later, they'd start
to exhibit disordered thinking.
377
00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:10,116
Eventually, they might become violent.
378
00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:13,156
The decompensation
was sudden and acute.
379
00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:14,446
You're saying they would
get worse, not better?
380
00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:16,956
Yes, and conventional treatment seemed
381
00:16:16,980 --> 00:16:18,246
to never work.
382
00:16:18,270 --> 00:16:20,036
Some have suggested
a supernatural presence
383
00:16:20,060 --> 00:16:21,126
at west view.
384
00:16:21,150 --> 00:16:22,416
Could that have impacted the patients?
385
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,416
Well, just because
the doctors at west view
386
00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,046
couldn't find a cause
for our patients' behavior
387
00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:29,296
doesn't mean there isn't one.
388
00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,966
Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities
389
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:33,176
of modern science to discover.
390
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,030
Or maybe it's demons?
391
00:16:36,330 --> 00:16:39,096
There are no demons at west view.
392
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,606
There are totally demons at west view.
393
00:16:41,630 --> 00:16:44,396
What's another explanation
for everything that's happened?
394
00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:47,106
We got Liam glasser, Harrison novak,
395
00:16:47,130 --> 00:16:50,026
- and most recently, Ava...
- Maxwell.
396
00:16:50,050 --> 00:16:52,446
Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
397
00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:54,986
This man came out in a big overcoat.
398
00:16:55,010 --> 00:16:56,196
Black mask. Big knife.
399
00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:57,826
Hang on a moment.
400
00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,206
I know that Ava and Charlotte
were never treated at west view.
401
00:17:00,230 --> 00:17:01,836
- So what's the connection?
- You didn't hear?
402
00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:04,336
Charlotte's nanny was a patient
there when she was a teenager.
403
00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:06,456
Yes, yes, I was at west view.
404
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,046
I had, been having thoughts
of self-harm, acting out.
405
00:17:11,070 --> 00:17:12,296
My family was very concerned,
406
00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,346
so they arranged for me to receive
407
00:17:14,370 --> 00:17:16,976
- the best care available.
- And did the treatment help?
408
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,226
Not at first.
409
00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:21,306
I'd been experiencing a darkness
410
00:17:21,330 --> 00:17:23,266
that I had never felt before.
411
00:17:23,290 --> 00:17:24,976
And at first, I fought it.
412
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,106
And then, I realized that struggling
413
00:17:26,130 --> 00:17:27,396
only made everything worse,
414
00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:30,156
and once I accepted it, that's when
415
00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:31,367
things started to get better.
416
00:17:31,391 --> 00:17:33,526
And I left west view,
and I finished school,
417
00:17:33,550 --> 00:17:36,406
and I eventually made
a little life for myself.
418
00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:38,456
You were the nanny
for the Russell family?
419
00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,326
Yes, Charlotte and I
were very, very close.
420
00:17:42,350 --> 00:17:46,046
Well, I know that everyone's saying just
421
00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:47,376
the worst things about her right now,
422
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,216
but in my eyes, she is a poised
423
00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,676
and gifted young woman,
424
00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:54,386
and I'd like to think that I
had a small hand in that.
425
00:17:54,410 --> 00:17:57,266
As odd as it was to find that connection,
426
00:17:57,290 --> 00:17:59,476
it was just one of those weird
coincidences, nothing more.
427
00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:01,392
Charlotte Russell convinced her friend,
428
00:18:01,416 --> 00:18:04,856
Ava, to help her stab their
other friend, grace thayer.
429
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,186
Her actions were her own.
430
00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:08,436
They're not inspired by
some nanny with a history
431
00:18:08,460 --> 00:18:11,236
of mental illness or some
demon in a computer
432
00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:12,367
that convinced Charlotte to do it.
433
00:18:12,391 --> 00:18:14,276
I'm sorry. Computer demon?
434
00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:17,786
Zuzu is not a demon, not a demon.
435
00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:18,657
It's an AI.
436
00:18:18,681 --> 00:18:20,116
Charlotte fed zuzu information
437
00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:22,366
about herself and her
friends, and based on that,
438
00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:25,836
zuzu told Charlotte what it
thought she wanted to hear.
439
00:18:25,860 --> 00:18:27,046
Zuzu also helped you.
440
00:18:27,070 --> 00:18:28,257
Isn't that right, officer Nolan?
441
00:18:28,281 --> 00:18:31,966
It mentioned something
to me about a watch?
442
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:33,216
You spoke to it?
443
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,046
Hello friend of John Nolan.
444
00:18:35,070 --> 00:18:37,136
Hi, should I call you zuzu?
445
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,306
If you want to.
446
00:18:38,330 --> 00:18:40,056
Do you need help with something,
447
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,886
perhaps a topic for a new project?
448
00:18:42,910 --> 00:18:44,226
Your last few have struggled.
449
00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:45,856
They've done fine. Thanks.
450
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,277
But I actually want to talk to
you about west view psychiatric.
451
00:18:48,301 --> 00:18:51,236
John was interested in the two.
452
00:18:51,260 --> 00:18:53,446
That young woman,
Abigail, went missing there.
453
00:18:53,470 --> 00:18:56,486
Are you saying the police
asked you to help find her?
454
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:59,156
No, but they needed my help anyway.
455
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:01,536
And a good friend
doesn't wait to be asked.
456
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,377
- Zuzu did send me a message.
- What did it say?
457
00:19:04,401 --> 00:19:08,956
It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
458
00:19:08,980 --> 00:19:11,966
The number of the beast?
459
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:14,546
Look, the facility had no room 666.
460
00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:18,256
And zuzu isn't a demon. We
were at a complete dead end.
461
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,056
And we were running out of time.
462
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,386
Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
463
00:19:22,410 --> 00:19:25,266
The odds of finding her
alive were getting worse.
464
00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:29,226
Yeah, we were out of options
until the 911 call came in.
465
00:19:29,250 --> 00:19:31,356
Apparently, there were suspicious noises
466
00:19:31,380 --> 00:19:34,196
and lights coming from
this abandoned wing,
467
00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:36,850
so we went to check it out.
468
00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:41,906
Police. Coming in.
469
00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:43,196
Control, 7-Adam-100.
470
00:19:43,220 --> 00:19:44,366
No signs of break in here.
471
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:47,850
Did rp say where they saw the light?
472
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:50,626
I think the radio is blocked.
473
00:19:50,650 --> 00:19:53,006
Probably some idiot kids
trying to scare each other.
474
00:19:53,030 --> 00:19:54,416
Yeah.
475
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,126
When was the last time it rained?
476
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:57,820
Like, a month ago. Why?
477
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,176
Walls are wet.
478
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,306
Yeah.
479
00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:07,186
What is this place?
480
00:20:07,210 --> 00:20:08,766
And how did you two get involved?
481
00:20:08,790 --> 00:20:12,896
Celina and I were about to
clock out when we got the call.
482
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,236
God, I hate this place.
483
00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:16,946
How many messed up
things have to happen
484
00:20:16,970 --> 00:20:18,236
before they tear it down?
485
00:20:18,260 --> 00:20:20,406
Apparently, the
ownership is under dispute.
486
00:20:20,430 --> 00:20:22,446
Westview says that they hold the deed,
487
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:26,826
but then there's this
claim by this Lou Cypher.
488
00:20:26,850 --> 00:20:28,166
Lou Cypher?
489
00:20:28,190 --> 00:20:30,376
Lucifer!
490
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,336
- My god.
- You're messing with me.
491
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:34,166
Yes, I am. Come on.
492
00:20:34,190 --> 00:20:36,046
Let's go find Tim and
Lucy and get out of here.
493
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:39,110
- Don't step in that.
- Ooh.
494
00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:49,266
Did you see that?
495
00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:51,080
Someone's flashlight?
496
00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:53,186
And that?
497
00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:56,090
I do not know what that was.
498
00:21:16,780 --> 00:21:17,860
Police, show us your hands.
499
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:21,926
We have permission to be here.
500
00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:24,256
- That's not totally true.
- All right.
501
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,266
Unfortunately, gentlemen,
you are trespassing.
502
00:21:26,290 --> 00:21:28,630
You're going to have to come with us.
503
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,096
What are you doing here?
504
00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:32,936
Filming an episode, sir.
505
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,106
"Ghost files." I love you guys.
506
00:21:35,130 --> 00:21:36,566
What is "ghost files"?
507
00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:38,902
Welcome to "ghost files," where we take
508
00:21:38,926 --> 00:21:41,196
your evidence and our tools into the field
509
00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:43,026
to expose the supernatural.
510
00:21:43,050 --> 00:21:46,826
My partner, a skeptic. Myself, a believer.
511
00:21:46,850 --> 00:21:48,202
Both of us, truth seekers.
512
00:21:48,226 --> 00:21:50,036
This week, our team has traveled
513
00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:51,996
to Los Angeles, California, to explore
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00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:54,126
a condemned psychiatric facility.
515
00:21:54,150 --> 00:21:57,336
Now, in 1841, this was the
site of a Spanish barracks,
516
00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,966
but a massive earthquake
swallowed the building,
517
00:21:59,990 --> 00:22:01,426
killing everyone inside.
518
00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:03,966
Many saw the event as
retribution for Spanish crimes
519
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:06,136
committed in the new world.
520
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,886
Sure, or an earthquake
happened in a region
521
00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:10,660
prone to earthquakes.
522
00:22:12,210 --> 00:22:13,317
But that's just the beginning
of this site's dark history.
523
00:22:13,341 --> 00:22:16,856
- Join us as we investigate.
- This way.
524
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,486
At that time, did you believe
the facility was haunted?
525
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:21,566
- No.
- Yes.
526
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:22,856
You were filming there too.
527
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,736
Did you experience any
temperature fluctuations
528
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,986
or anything like that?
529
00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:27,486
I'll ask the questions, if you don't mind.
530
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:28,786
We do.
531
00:22:28,810 --> 00:22:30,826
But this is my documentary.
532
00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:33,746
No, this is our YouTube show.
533
00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:35,876
Yeah, so ghosts are said to produce
534
00:22:35,900 --> 00:22:37,257
electromagnetic interference.
535
00:22:37,281 --> 00:22:39,860
Did you experience any
trouble with your equipment?
536
00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:44,966
We're done here.
537
00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:47,370
Let's cut. Let's wrap this up.
538
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:50,886
- Nice.
- Yeah.
539
00:22:50,910 --> 00:22:52,806
All of you, let's go. Come on.
540
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,146
No, no way.
541
00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:55,856
This is some of the best
footage we've ever gotten.
542
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,186
- Listen to this.
- What is that?
543
00:22:57,210 --> 00:22:58,436
It's a spirit box.
544
00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,276
- Did you guys hear anything?
- A spirit box?
545
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:02,696
The spirit box rapidly scans radio signals
546
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,526
to create white noise through
which spirits can communicate.
547
00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:10,366
- Hello.
- See?
548
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:12,456
It's science.
549
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,690
Listen.
550
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,586
Ok, ok. That's enough.
551
00:23:17,610 --> 00:23:18,666
We got to go.
552
00:23:18,690 --> 00:23:19,796
No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
553
00:23:19,820 --> 00:23:22,530
I heard something. Can you turn it up?
554
00:23:27,450 --> 00:23:28,756
Help me?
555
00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:30,846
That is not what I heard.
556
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:33,476
Well, who do you think it is?
557
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:35,806
- It's feedback.
- It's a ghost.
558
00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:38,476
It was a little clearer down the hallway.
559
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,460
Show me.
560
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,526
So we're just going to give
up on Tim and Lucy then?
561
00:23:46,550 --> 00:23:48,720
How long have we been in here?
562
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,326
- This room?
- Yeah.
563
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:55,406
I don't know.
564
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:57,376
We've been here for a while, right?
565
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,336
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind.
566
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,110
I feel good, like, really good.
567
00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:09,216
Do you think we've been drugged?
568
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,676
The wet walls.
569
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:14,806
- We touched them.
- Yeah.
570
00:24:14,830 --> 00:24:16,766
I hate making mistakes in front of you.
571
00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:21,476
You've never admitted that before.
572
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:22,726
Truth serum.
573
00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:25,566
- Sodium Pentothal.
- Yeah.
574
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:26,946
You know what?
575
00:24:26,970 --> 00:24:31,326
We... we should keep
quiet until this wears off.
576
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:32,406
- No.
- Yeah.
577
00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:33,576
- No.
- It's better for us.
578
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,696
No.
579
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,666
What is your most
embarrassing memory?
580
00:24:39,690 --> 00:24:45,416
I mean, third grade, I snuck my hamster
581
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,610
into my classroom in my pants.
582
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,686
With that kind of dad, you internalize
583
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:06,396
the message that if you fail,
you deserve to be punished.
584
00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:10,356
And without him to punish me, I
585
00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:11,736
I guess I punished myself.
586
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,826
- By breaking up with me.
- Yep.
587
00:25:14,850 --> 00:25:17,656
I mean, it's kind of flattering, right?
588
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,496
It's the worst thing I
could think to do to myself.
589
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,376
You didn't punish just yourself though.
590
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,836
I know.
591
00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:27,586
And look, if you never fully forgive me,
592
00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:28,756
I totally understand.
593
00:25:28,780 --> 00:25:30,676
I have already forgiven you.
594
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:34,290
It's not even.
595
00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:38,936
I wonder when that happened.
596
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,516
You can't put that in the documentary.
597
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,476
The LAPD makes all body cam footage
598
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:44,606
available to the public.
599
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:46,316
Ok, this is obviously an exception.
600
00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:47,566
We were drugged.
601
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:49,446
People... people say all sorts of things
602
00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:50,617
when they've been drugged.
603
00:25:50,641 --> 00:25:52,776
So you didn't mean what you said?
604
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,486
What about the potential
baby names you discussed?
605
00:25:56,510 --> 00:25:57,786
- Ok, we're done here.
- Yeah.
606
00:25:57,810 --> 00:25:58,866
Why do we keep agreeing to do this?
607
00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:00,326
I don't know. Excuse me!
608
00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:01,826
Help me.
609
00:26:01,850 --> 00:26:03,496
Ok, you have to admit
that's a voice asking for help.
610
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,586
Yeah, sure, I heard it,
611
00:26:04,610 --> 00:26:05,587
but it's one of their crew members
612
00:26:05,611 --> 00:26:06,916
or something pre-recorded.
613
00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:09,666
Were you a patient here?
Is the demon with you?
614
00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:12,216
Somebody covered up a door.
615
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,466
What year did you die?
616
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:16,386
So close. Set me free!
617
00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:18,556
I'm here! I'm here!
618
00:26:18,580 --> 00:26:21,660
Please... step back, guys.
619
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:25,896
Keep going!
620
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,606
- You're almost there!
- Watch out. Ready?
621
00:26:27,630 --> 00:26:30,380
Go.
622
00:26:31,420 --> 00:26:32,656
Abigail!
623
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,526
Thank you! Thank you!
624
00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:36,736
I've been trapped in here for so long.
625
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,496
I thought I was going to die. Thank you!
626
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,616
My god. What is this room?
627
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,456
Ok, but why did they wall it all off?
628
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,706
To trap the demon.
629
00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:47,376
Yeah, bartleby, the terrifying demon king
630
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,546
of paperwork.
631
00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:50,506
How did you get down here?
632
00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:53,716
I was exploring, following this
633
00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:55,846
this weird, beautiful noise,
634
00:26:55,870 --> 00:26:57,556
when all of a sudden, it got cold.
635
00:26:57,580 --> 00:26:58,886
Like, so, so cold,
636
00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:01,516
and I could feel
something coming after me,
637
00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:03,766
and I was scared, so
I hid behind a cabinet,
638
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:06,516
but the floor was wet and rusted,
639
00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:08,686
and it collapsed. I
couldn't climb back out.
640
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,736
You fell from there? Are you ok?
641
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,652
I think I twisted my
ankle, but I feel no pain.
642
00:27:13,676 --> 00:27:15,656
You've been missing for two weeks.
643
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,270
How the hell did you survive?
644
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,496
I had a bunch of trail mix in my bag.
645
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,746
Plus, I found, like, this ancient water jug
646
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:27,416
in one of the cabinets.
647
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,836
Plus, Bob.
648
00:27:28,860 --> 00:27:32,416
Bob had power bars.
Bob had power bars.
649
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,586
Bob?
650
00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:35,336
My god!
651
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:36,506
If it wasn't for Bob,
652
00:27:36,530 --> 00:27:39,426
I would have lost my mind down here.
653
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:41,426
Don't be shy, Bob. Say hello.
654
00:27:41,450 --> 00:27:43,370
Shy.
655
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:47,056
Abigail was safe, and, considering
656
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,976
what she'd been
through, relatively healthy.
657
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,276
Except for her mental state.
658
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:55,906
That did pose some questions.
659
00:27:55,930 --> 00:27:57,236
At first, I was angry.
660
00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:59,276
You know, like, we're
stuck down here together.
661
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:01,236
At least try and have a conversation.
662
00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:04,956
And then I realized Bob's just shy.
663
00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:06,206
He's just shy.
664
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:07,996
And there's nothing
wrong with that, right?
665
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:09,336
Right.
666
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,876
Did you believe she'd
had a demonic encounter?
667
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,006
She went in perfectly sane
668
00:28:14,030 --> 00:28:16,296
and came out best friends with a corpse.
669
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,676
That's how possession works.
You can't rule out demons.
670
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:20,806
Yes, you can.
671
00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:22,620
Nolan, look at this.
672
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:27,080
666, just like zuzu said.
673
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:35,106
It was a weird coincidence.
674
00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:38,236
We found quite a cocktail
of drugs in your system.
675
00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:41,116
I don't do drugs. Does pot count?
676
00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:44,906
No, we're talking about
powerful hallucinogens.
677
00:28:44,930 --> 00:28:46,866
I'm not hallucinating.
678
00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:48,826
Ask Bob.
679
00:28:48,850 --> 00:28:50,876
I had them run the test twice,
680
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:52,166
and we found a similar cocktail
681
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:54,296
in officer chen and sergeant Bradford.
682
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,966
Mercifully, none of the
drugs were fat soluble.
683
00:28:57,990 --> 00:29:00,136
Otherwise, department policy
684
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,966
would have forced sergeant Bradford
685
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:04,716
and officer chen into medical retirement.
686
00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:05,886
Is that what killed Bob,
687
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:07,976
whatever drug they were exposed to?
688
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,976
No, he was shot six times in the chest.
689
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,316
Did you get an ID on the body?
690
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:15,157
His name was Bob
Medina, a friend reported him
691
00:29:15,181 --> 00:29:16,816
missing about six months ago.
692
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,316
He was a private investigator.
693
00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:19,906
What was his connection to the hospital?
694
00:29:19,930 --> 00:29:21,986
At first, we couldn't find one.
695
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:24,786
So to be clear, there
was now a third killer
696
00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:26,167
associated with that location?
697
00:29:26,191 --> 00:29:27,996
At this point, it can't be a coincidence.
698
00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:29,916
There has to be
something about that facility
699
00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:31,792
that draws people towards homicide.
700
00:29:31,816 --> 00:29:33,246
That's a stretch and a half.
701
00:29:33,270 --> 00:29:35,336
Westview is a hospital for the mentally ill
702
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,916
and the criminally insane.
Novak was a patient.
703
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:39,256
Glasser was there looking for a patsy.
704
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,336
And whoever killed Bob
saw an abandoned building
705
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,490
and was like, "that's a
perfect place to dump a body."
706
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:48,096
What?
707
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,096
Or there was some dark
energy that drew evil to it.
708
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,356
- You really believe that?
- I'm catholic.
709
00:29:53,380 --> 00:29:55,772
I was raised on demons and the battle
710
00:29:55,796 --> 00:29:57,106
against Satan's minions.
711
00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:59,106
Well, I was raised on
the scientific method.
712
00:29:59,130 --> 00:30:01,946
Ok, so if it's all so explainable,
713
00:30:01,970 --> 00:30:04,616
spend the night there. I dare you.
714
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,736
Pass.
715
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,737
You're scared.
716
00:30:06,761 --> 00:30:08,286
No, I'm not scared.
717
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:10,246
One could argue that
the drugs in the hospital
718
00:30:10,270 --> 00:30:13,206
are hardly surprising,
even hallucinogens.
719
00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:14,336
Over the decades, they have been used
720
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,257
- in experimental medicine.
- No, true.
721
00:30:16,281 --> 00:30:19,216
Just the type and volume is what set off
722
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,176
- what are you doing?
- Conducting an interview.
723
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,052
Could you please come
back in, like, an hour?
724
00:30:24,076 --> 00:30:26,756
You said you'd talk to
me for my documentary.
725
00:30:26,780 --> 00:30:28,016
You have a documentary?
726
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,056
Well, it's my story. Who better to tell it?
727
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,556
Well, no problem.
728
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:33,146
I can sit down with you just
as soon as we're done here.
729
00:30:33,170 --> 00:30:34,936
I wish. It has to be exclusive.
730
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,316
You can't do both.
731
00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:38,066
She's right. It has to be exclusive.
732
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:39,986
Either you're doing my
doc, or you're doing hers,
733
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:41,196
and we have a long history.
734
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:45,066
I was almost his
daughter-in-law, so suck it.
735
00:30:45,090 --> 00:30:46,906
I'm going to have to go with her.
736
00:30:46,930 --> 00:30:49,156
- I'm sorry.
- Seriously?
737
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:51,786
I have a bafta.
738
00:30:51,810 --> 00:30:53,326
Ok, fine.
739
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:55,916
- Let's wrap it up.
- This way. The set's this way.
740
00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:57,206
It's better lighting over there.
741
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:58,956
We got a great team.
742
00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:00,296
We are going to need our mic back.
743
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,927
- Yes, sorry.
- Yeah, of course.
744
00:31:01,951 --> 00:31:03,926
- We have our own.
- Sorry.
745
00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:05,506
- I'll see you guys around.
- Good luck.
746
00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:08,006
We can talk about what else
I found inside the secret lab.
747
00:31:08,030 --> 00:31:09,216
Right.
748
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,176
Well, you did find some paperwork.
749
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,136
Explosive paperwork.
750
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,106
Evidence of a secret
government program.
751
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:17,982
Close the door softly please.
752
00:31:18,006 --> 00:31:20,106
Well, I don't know that
we can say that for sure.
753
00:31:20,130 --> 00:31:21,880
We could.
754
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:26,066
My name is Abigail Tierney.
755
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:28,116
I'm currently trapped inside a secret lab
756
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:29,366
at west view psychiatric.
757
00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:31,446
All attempts at escape
have proven fruitless.
758
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:34,246
If I'm to die here, I leave you this footage
759
00:31:34,270 --> 00:31:37,996
along with my in-process
documentary as evidence
760
00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:40,126
of my hunt for the truth about the evils
761
00:31:40,150 --> 00:31:42,230
that inhabit this accursed place.
762
00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:47,950
What's this?
763
00:31:49,030 --> 00:31:50,216
Cool.
764
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,966
That's when I realized I'd uncovered
765
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:54,476
something more haunting
than any ghost or serial killer.
766
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,226
I'd uncovered a conspiracy that went to
767
00:31:57,250 --> 00:32:01,146
the very highest levels
of our government.
768
00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:03,146
The government files Abigail found
769
00:32:03,170 --> 00:32:06,986
detailed classified plans and methods
770
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:09,066
for human experimentation.
771
00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:10,946
What type of experimentation?
772
00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:12,746
Are you familiar with mk-ultra?
773
00:32:12,770 --> 00:32:14,156
Of course.
774
00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:16,746
It was a top secret CIA
program in the '50s and '60s
775
00:32:16,770 --> 00:32:18,076
using experimental drugs
776
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:19,376
to aid in interrogation techniques.
777
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,252
It was straight-up mind control.
778
00:32:21,276 --> 00:32:24,416
I mean, they used high doses
of psychoactive drugs like LSD,
779
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,386
sodium Pentothal, which is
also known as a "truth serum."
780
00:32:29,410 --> 00:32:32,846
The program ran from 1953 to 1973
781
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:35,556
before it was shut down
following a public outcry.
782
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:37,686
I mean, all the facilities were closed.
783
00:32:37,710 --> 00:32:40,186
There's no evidence the
CIA ever used west view
784
00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:41,686
as a base of operations.
785
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:44,436
So what were top secret
mk-ultra documents doing there?
786
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:45,736
Good question.
787
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,566
We started digging into the trove of files
788
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:49,486
Abigail had found, and one name
789
00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:51,776
kept popping up again and again.
790
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,826
Dr. Julius Erickson.
791
00:32:53,850 --> 00:32:56,917
He was one of the psychologists
contracted by the CIA
792
00:32:56,941 --> 00:32:59,826
to conduct experimental research.
793
00:32:59,850 --> 00:33:03,296
And after mk-ultra shut
down, he took a new job.
794
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,546
Director of west view.
795
00:33:04,570 --> 00:33:07,376
Dr. Erickson ran the
hospital for 20 years.
796
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,876
And from the notes we uncovered,
797
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:12,346
it seems clear he continued
his own research in private,
798
00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:14,346
trying to use the
psychological breakthroughs
799
00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:17,136
from mk-ultra to
further his own research
800
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,556
into mind-altering drugs.
801
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:21,146
I assume he used those
drugs on west view patients?
802
00:33:21,170 --> 00:33:22,556
Yeah, at first.
803
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:24,266
But then, he started
using them on himself,
804
00:33:24,290 --> 00:33:26,816
believing he had found the
key to improving his own mind.
805
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,066
He hadn't.
806
00:33:28,090 --> 00:33:29,486
And in a last moment of lucidity,
807
00:33:29,510 --> 00:33:32,156
Erickson decided to destroy his research.
808
00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:33,826
He dumped the chemicals
outside the building,
809
00:33:33,850 --> 00:33:36,286
where they started to
slowly seep into the structure.
810
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:38,122
And some of the drugs
were potent enough
811
00:33:38,146 --> 00:33:40,036
to be absorbed simply by touch,
812
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:41,746
even when diluted.
813
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:44,036
Erickson committed himself
to west view shortly after,
814
00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:46,126
never said another word.
815
00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:47,506
He died in 2020.
816
00:33:47,530 --> 00:33:50,216
Did the CIA ever find out
what Erickson was doing?
817
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,057
Not that we've found,
but it's not like the agency
818
00:33:53,081 --> 00:33:55,820
ever returns our phone calls.
819
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,936
Anyone who studied the
past knows that the CIA
820
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,226
has a history of violent cover-ups.
821
00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:04,566
Mk-ultra might have become public,
822
00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:06,232
but that doesn't mean there still
823
00:34:06,256 --> 00:34:07,606
aren't secrets to protect.
824
00:34:07,630 --> 00:34:10,486
By uncovering Dr. Erickson's
connection to west view
825
00:34:10,510 --> 00:34:15,366
and discovering Bob's body,
I've put myself in danger.
826
00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:16,866
But the best way to protect yourself
827
00:34:16,890 --> 00:34:21,366
is with the truth, which
brings me to Caroline McGrath.
828
00:34:21,390 --> 00:34:22,746
Turns out Caroline is the one
829
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,836
who hired Bob to go to west view,
830
00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:28,206
and I need to find out
why before it's too late.
831
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:30,230
I think...
832
00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:42,226
- What the hell?
- We got lucky.
833
00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:44,896
A woman in the neighborhood
heard a commotion
834
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,106
and filmed Abigail's abduction.
835
00:34:47,130 --> 00:34:48,856
Thanks to them, we were
able to track the vehicle.
836
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,026
Where'd it go?
837
00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:52,970
Back to where it all began, west view.
838
00:34:59,010 --> 00:35:00,826
Police! Drop the weapon!
839
00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:02,156
On the ground.
840
00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:04,786
Hands on your head. Turn around.
841
00:35:04,810 --> 00:35:05,956
Walk towards my partner.
842
00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:08,086
Hands behind your back.
843
00:35:08,110 --> 00:35:10,916
- You ok?
- Yeah, totally fine.
844
00:35:10,940 --> 00:35:12,126
Carl's going through it, though.
845
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:14,086
I never really even knew my mother.
846
00:35:14,110 --> 00:35:15,756
Does anyone, really?
847
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,096
What is going on here?
848
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,932
Well, my friend Carl
here was being pressured
849
00:35:19,956 --> 00:35:23,016
into killing me, but then,
we got to talking, right?
850
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,346
- Yeah, and I couldn't.
- Yeah.
851
00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:28,936
- Ok, but pressured by who?
- My boss.
852
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,936
- Meg Davidson.
- Who?
853
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,880
The current director
at west view psychiatric.
854
00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:37,736
But she started working at the hospital
855
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,906
long after Julius Erickson went mad,
856
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:41,656
and she has no links to the CIA,
857
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,156
so why would she try to kill Abigail?
858
00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:46,746
- To cover up Bob's murder.
- And who killed Bob?
859
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,836
Can you introduce yourself?
860
00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:50,796
Yes. My name is Caroline McGrath.
861
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:53,666
You hired my friend, Bob Medina,
862
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:55,176
because you had questions
863
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,676
about your friend winona's
treatment at west view, right?
864
00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:58,926
Yes, of course, everyone thought
865
00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:02,596
I was just being paranoid, but Bob didn't,
866
00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:03,806
and it got him killed.
867
00:36:03,830 --> 00:36:05,056
You worked with win on a baker, right?
868
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,436
Yes, she was hospitalized
with depression
869
00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:10,896
by her daughter.
870
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,986
Seemed like therapy and
some medication would help her,
871
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:16,816
but win on a got worse fast.
872
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,696
Lost track of reality,
873
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:22,486
she exhibited signs of psychosis,
874
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:24,116
paranoia, dissociation.
875
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,116
And by that point, I
wondered whether a transfer
876
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:29,456
to a new facility might
be in her best interest.
877
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,746
And then?
878
00:36:30,770 --> 00:36:32,246
The director informed
me that winona's family
879
00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:34,966
had gotten a judge to
order a conservatorship,
880
00:36:34,990 --> 00:36:37,926
and they wanted her to stay for good.
881
00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:39,596
You were suspicious?
882
00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:41,596
Winona always had her funks.
883
00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:43,716
But she wasn't crazy
884
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:45,226
until that place made her lose her mind.
885
00:36:45,250 --> 00:36:47,726
And that proved to be
the break you needed?
886
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:49,226
Yeah, when we started looking into it,
887
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:52,816
it turned out a significant
number of west view patients
888
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,066
were wealthy, and a high percentage
889
00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:57,152
were ordered into conservatorship.
890
00:36:57,176 --> 00:36:59,986
Now, conservatorship
is extremely difficult
891
00:37:00,010 --> 00:37:03,656
to get for an adult because of
the potential abuse of power.
892
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,076
It gives one party legal authority
893
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,746
over certain aspects
of another person's life,
894
00:37:07,770 --> 00:37:09,076
including managing all of their assets.
895
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,586
It's like what happened
to Britney Spears.
896
00:37:11,610 --> 00:37:12,916
"Manage their assets"
897
00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:14,086
rich person speak for controlling
898
00:37:14,110 --> 00:37:16,006
someone else's money.
899
00:37:16,030 --> 00:37:19,926
Yes, and money makes
people do crazy things.
900
00:37:19,950 --> 00:37:22,926
Like poison their family member's water
901
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:24,926
with a chemical cocktail so potent
902
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:26,806
it has the potential to
permanently damage
903
00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:28,580
the human psyche?
904
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,686
Yeah, just like that.
905
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:35,106
I was supposed to inherit,
906
00:37:35,130 --> 00:37:39,196
but, after my break with reality,
907
00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:42,656
my dad cut me off, and
my brother got everything.
908
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,866
What's everything?
909
00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:46,156
About, $12 million.
910
00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:48,536
It must have been hard
going from that kind of wealth
911
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,956
- to nannying.
- No.
912
00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:51,876
No, it was a blessing.
913
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:55,820
I really think that helping
children was my calling.
914
00:37:57,230 --> 00:37:59,466
Once we found the pattern,
we started interviewing
915
00:37:59,490 --> 00:38:00,626
some of the families.
916
00:38:00,650 --> 00:38:01,796
A little pressure, and they cracked.
917
00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:02,926
And with the search warrant,
918
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:05,556
we found the gun
used to kill Bob Medina
919
00:38:05,580 --> 00:38:06,886
in director Davidson's closet.
920
00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:09,766
She'd been running
her scam for a decade.
921
00:38:09,790 --> 00:38:11,896
Turns out she was
Dr. Erickson's therapist
922
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,896
in the last years of his life.
923
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,856
He must have told her
about his experiments.
924
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,946
In exploring his old lab, she'd uncovered
925
00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:22,696
the tainted water, realized its potential.
926
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,076
And we had her on murder, fraud,
927
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:28,996
elder abuse, kidnapping,
attempted murder, poisoning.
928
00:38:29,020 --> 00:38:32,076
Miss Davidson, would you
like to make a comment?
929
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,536
You know, this might
be your last chance to tell
930
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,640
your side of the story.
931
00:38:37,610 --> 00:38:39,217
Look at all these people watching.
932
00:38:39,241 --> 00:38:41,836
The state ordered a full investigation
933
00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:43,926
into every conservatorship
west view ordered.
934
00:38:43,950 --> 00:38:45,756
God willing, the victims will get
935
00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:47,096
their rights and assets back.
936
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,932
And west view itself
has been closed for good.
937
00:38:49,956 --> 00:38:51,936
But the lawsuits are just starting,
938
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,856
not to mention the rest
of the legal ramifications.
939
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,066
I'm glad this is getting so much attention.
940
00:38:57,090 --> 00:39:01,106
These poor, abused
patients can finally get justice.
941
00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,236
Do you think it could
impact your case at all?
942
00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:06,696
It certainly gives my
defense a fresh coat of paint.
943
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,486
If the jury won't listen to reason
944
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:10,906
because I am innocent
945
00:39:10,930 --> 00:39:13,036
perhaps they will listen to the tragic story
946
00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:16,166
of a simple tradesman falling victim
947
00:39:16,190 --> 00:39:21,876
to a poisoned environment that
chemically affected my psyche.
948
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:25,046
And what did that
environment make you do?
949
00:39:25,070 --> 00:39:27,596
Who can say? Certainly not me.
950
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:30,926
I... I wasn't in my right mind.
951
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:33,016
Yeah, the... the poisoned water
952
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,936
was only found in the
abandoned psych ward.
953
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,816
No vending machines
left to fill there, right?
954
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,936
At this point, I must
confess I did go inside
955
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,856
that abandoned ward
back when I was a kid.
956
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,906
My father's warnings,
they didn't scare me away.
957
00:39:48,930 --> 00:39:51,996
They only made me
more desperate to see.
958
00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:56,916
And whatever lurked inside...
959
00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:58,940
Must have infected me.
960
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,382
Glasser is claiming that
the presence of those drugs
961
00:40:05,406 --> 00:40:07,966
would absolve him of
any alleged responsibility
962
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:09,296
for the murders.
963
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,806
There is no way that
defense is going to work.
964
00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:13,960
- We have glasser dead to rights.
- Are you sure about that?
965
00:40:15,370 --> 00:40:17,080
Yeah.
966
00:40:28,430 --> 00:40:29,906
Hey, hey. Sorry.
967
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:33,446
I know we talked about me
not recording interviews in here,
968
00:40:33,470 --> 00:40:37,416
but rodge mentioned he needed
a space with great acoustics.
969
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,536
And, you know, we're shutting it down.
970
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,916
We're shutting it down. Shut it
971
00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:44,416
- shut it down.
- Shutting it down, copy.
972
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,127
Hi. Sorry.
973
00:40:45,151 --> 00:40:46,506
She said this was cool.
974
00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:47,586
You're going to help me
get these in the Van, right?
975
00:40:47,610 --> 00:40:49,846
I'll be right there.
976
00:40:49,870 --> 00:40:53,346
Next time, handcuffs and squad cars.
977
00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:55,450
Yeah, totally understandable.
978
00:40:57,540 --> 00:40:58,846
Thanks again for
going exclusive with me.
979
00:40:58,870 --> 00:41:02,146
Seriously, this doc is going to be huge.
980
00:41:02,170 --> 00:41:03,646
I hope so.
981
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:05,936
You deserve something good
after what you've been through.
982
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,526
- How are you holding up?
- I'm... I'm fine.
983
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:10,906
I'm happy to have something to focus on.
984
00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:12,287
When I've been through
some scary times,
985
00:41:12,311 --> 00:41:16,706
I have been guilty of using
my work as my therapy,
986
00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:19,666
but if there's ever a time
you need someone to talk to
987
00:41:19,690 --> 00:41:20,996
thank you. Really.
988
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,876
But I already have a great therapist,
989
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:25,376
one with zero history at west view.
990
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,836
Excellent.
991
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:29,756
You know, there's still
something I can't figure out.
992
00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:32,756
How did you know that Bob the pi
993
00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:34,096
was working for Caroline McGrath.
994
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,846
Bob told me while we
were stuck in the lab.
995
00:41:37,870 --> 00:41:40,726
He got chatty once he opened up.
996
00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:42,540
I have that effect on people.
997
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,816
We had to come back
because our job isn't finished.
998
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,146
This hospital has housed killers,
999
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:51,026
evil experiments, and
perhaps the supernatural.
1000
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:53,156
Our job as investigators is to collect
1001
00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:56,036
and present questions and possibilities.
1002
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:59,916
Interpretation, however,
solely belongs with you.
1003
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:02,610
Did west view really...
1004
00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:10,756
Should we check that out?
1005
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:12,796
I might be good.
1006
00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:14,820
You know what? Me too.
1007
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:19,596
Whoo!
1008
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:20,700
God!
1009
00:42:55,870 --> 00:42:56,960
Damn it.
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