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In the criminal justice
system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate,
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Jackson, come on in.
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We need to talk.
- What's up, man?
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You make 8 million a year,
man, and you broke.
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Man, get out of here.
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You could believe me today,
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or you can believe the bank
when they come
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and take the keys
to your house.
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You got to make changes, bro.
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And, oh, by the way,
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I'm keeping my 5%.
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You ain't getting that back.
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What's the problem?
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You really just
asked me that?
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Turn around.
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What does Jimmy do?
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How about Tommy?
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How about Marco?
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I don't know, man.
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They just part of it.
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How many people do you think
you have on your payroll?
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Six.
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11.
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But it's time to be real.
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You ain't LeBron.
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You ain't KD.
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You damn sure ain't Ant-Man.
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You a grinder,
a rotation player.
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You damn sure
ain't large enough
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to be having some entourage.
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You got a big damn heart,
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but you just turned 30.
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If you're lucky, you got three,
maybe four years left.
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So you're saying you want me
to fire some of my boys?
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Come on, Ted.
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No.
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That ain't cool.
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Want to hear about cool?
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I don't care about cool.
I care about you.
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I care about your family,
your kids, your future.
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That's what I'm thinking about.
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So guess what.
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Your agent ain't asking you
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to get rid of
some of your boys.
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I'm asking you
to get rid of all of them.
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Every living one of them.
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That's not so easy.
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I grew up with them.
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When all of this
was just a fantasy.
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I owe them.
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I owe them.
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You want me to do it for you?
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Our victim is wearing sweats,
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high-end running shoes,
headphones on.
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Looks like he was on
some sort of jog or walk.
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- Who called this in?
- Two joggers.
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Victim was deceased
by the time they found him.
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No pulse.
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They didn't see
anybody else around.
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I mean,
it was the crack of dawn,
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so it was pretty empty up here.
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Got a weapon in evidence?
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We're looking,
but so far, no dice.
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It was some kind of knife.
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Two stabs to the chest.
Deep.
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He also got a cut on his lip.
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Healed up, though.
Doesn't feel related.
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Still got his
Montblanc smartwatch,
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his cell phone, AirPods.
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Not a robbery.
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And they found
a $20 bill in his pocket
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with his ID.
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Theodore Hunter.
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69th Street, Upper West Side.
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Guy turned 52 on Tuesday.
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Hope he made the most of it.
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What do you got?
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We found a knife
in a garbage can
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a few blocks away
from the crime scene
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covered in blood.
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Four-inch tactical blade,
folding, serrated,
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manufactured by Iron Forge.
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Right now the lab's trying
to confirm the DNA.
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But we have a murder weapon?
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Looks like it.
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And ARGUS caught
the murder on video.
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Any luck on facial rec?
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Nope. Never saw his face.
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But check this out.
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OK, so you see people
running through.
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And then here is our vic.
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Think it was
a targeted attack?
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Any theories?
Who was this guy?
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Well, back in the day,
Ted Hunter was
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kind of a big deal All-American
football player up at Syracuse.
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He basically had
a cup of coffee in the pros,
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then became a sports agent.
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He worked for ACG.
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They're one of the big three.
He was with them for years.
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Very successful,
very controversial too.
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Had a lot of critics and was
known for playing hardball
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during contract negotiations.
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And poaching clients.
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Last year,
he breaks off on his own,
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starts his own firm,
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says that the system is
bloated and corrupt.
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Any family?
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Two sons.
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Raised them on his own
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after his wife died
in a car accident.
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OK, well, talk to the boys,
see if they have any idea
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who might want to hurt
their father.
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One hell of a family legacy.
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Yeah.
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Looks like you're up next,
huh, Josh?
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Long as my knee holds up.
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MCL?
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Sprained it.
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Let me ask you, is anybody
coming to assist you guys?
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Aunt? Uncle?
- No.
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No, as a matter of fact,
I'm gonna take some time off
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from school to come down here,
stay with Josh.
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Our father raised us to be men,
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so we can take care
of ourselves.
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Well, look, guys,
we need your help.
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We need any information
you can give us
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about the last couple days
of your dad's life.
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Eric, you were up at Syracuse
when you got the news?
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Yes, sir.
I was out on the practice field
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when they came and got me.
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- And Josh, you were here?
- Yeah.
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I usually run with our dad
every morning in the park.
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Last few weeks,
obviously, I couldn't go.
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I was sleeping in this morning.
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And I woke up to cops
banging on the door.
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If I was there,
I could have done something.
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Don't do that
to yourself, bro.
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Listen to your brother.
It's good advice.
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We have reason to believe that
this was a targeted attack.
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Targeted?
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Just that this wasn't
a random occurrence.
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We need your help.
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Can you guys think
of any reason
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anybody wanted to hurt
your father?
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No idea.
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Anything noteworthy recently
or out of character?
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Did he indicate that he might
have been arguing with someone?
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Or maybe someone
threatened him?
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No, I talked to our father
every single day.
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Um, there was one thing.
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He came home late
one night this week,
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and it looked like
he had been in a fight.
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Like a physical altercation?
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Yeah, I guess.
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His shirt was all messed up
and torn.
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- What about his lip?
- Yeah.
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He had a--he had a big cut
on his bottom lip.
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He tell you
how this happened?
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I mean, he just
kind of played it off.
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Said it wasn't
that big of a deal.
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It kind of looked
like a big deal.
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What night was this?
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This man, Ted Hunter.
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He was dropped off here
by an Uber
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at 11:13 p.m. on Monday.
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And?
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And this morning,
he got murdered.
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Sorry to hear that.
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He got into an altercation
at this nightclub,
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and we need to know who
he was fighting with and why.
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Can't help you, fellas.
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You can't or you won't?
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The minute I start talking
to the cops is the minute
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the crowds stop showing up.
- Mm.
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Don't know if that's
can't or won't,
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but it's one of them.
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All right, well, just got
a few more images to show you,
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and then we'll get
out of your hair.
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Like this one.
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Budget Ballin'.
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For 30 bucks, your patrons
get all the liquor
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they can handle for an hour.
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That's a great deal.
Show him the other one.
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Oh, yeah--
oh, this one I would have loved
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back in the day.
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Liquid Courage,
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a raffle for unlimited shots.
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Even better deal.
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Problem is, you can't do that.
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Any club promotion that
encourages risky drinking,
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$800 fine.
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Let me grab my wallet.
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I'll pay you in cash.
With a tip.
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You misunderstood
what I was saying.
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It's an $800 fine per offense.
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That means every drink
that you served to every patron
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every night you had
a promotion like that.
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Yeah, so we could just
pull your CCTV
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and start counting them all up.
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It'll take a while.
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Come on, man.
That's not right.
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It's the law.
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Or you could just tell us.
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Who was Ted Hunter having
an altercation with?
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OK, thank you.
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The blood on the knife
is a DNA match to Hunter.
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So it's definitely
our murder weapon.
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Any other fingerprints on it?
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Unfortunately, no.
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There he is.
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- Jackson Dean?
- OK.
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NYPD.
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We need to talk to you
about Ted Hunter.
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It hurts, man.
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He was a damn good agent.
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Damn good dude too.
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Really cared about his clients.
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How about everybody
in your crew?
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They like him too?
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Yeah, we heard
one of your buddies
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got into a fight with him
a couple nights ago
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at Vortex 21.
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Is that right?
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I got to get back out there.
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No, you didn't answer
my question.
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I wasn't at the club
that night.
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Yeah, we know.
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But your crew, they were.
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Yeah, we got
the physical description
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of a guy who tangled
with Hunter that night.
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5'9", Black, cornrows.
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Ring a bell?
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There is zero chance
anyone in my circle
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had anything to do with that.
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So, fellas, have a nice day.
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No, no, no, no, that's not
how this works, Mr. Dean.
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You see, we're investigating
a murder here.
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Which means boxing us out
is not an option.
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Now, it'd be a real shame
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if we had to have
this conversation
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back at the precinct,
you know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, that'd mean
you'd miss tonight's game.
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There he is.
Right there.
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Tommy Caro.
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NYPD.
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Hey!
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Hey!
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Whoa!
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Hey, do not move!
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Stay right where you are.
Get your hands up.
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Higher!
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He's got a gun.
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You even look at that piece,
you're a dead man.
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Walk backwards to me.
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To my voice.
- OK.
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OK.
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I would have run too.
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Criminal possession
of a firearm, pretty serious.
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00:11:04,011 --> 00:11:05,402
Minimum three and a half years.
265
00:11:05,403 --> 00:11:06,708
Well, that's what
they told me last time,
266
00:11:06,709 --> 00:11:08,405
but I'm still here.
- Oh, OK.
267
00:11:08,406 --> 00:11:09,929
Well, thanks
for the information.
268
00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:11,670
Maybe this time we'll push
for 10, given your history.
269
00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:13,584
Come on, lady.
270
00:11:13,585 --> 00:11:16,805
I heard Ted Hunter got
a few good licks in.
271
00:11:16,806 --> 00:11:18,372
Maybe even won the fight.
272
00:11:18,373 --> 00:11:19,678
I don't know.
That's pretty impressive.
273
00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,418
How old is he?
Like, 52?
274
00:11:21,419 --> 00:11:23,420
- Please.
- What?
275
00:11:23,421 --> 00:11:24,726
Thinking it might
sting a little.
276
00:11:24,727 --> 00:11:26,728
I mean, it's embarrassing.
- Whoa, whoa.
277
00:11:26,729 --> 00:11:28,730
We threw a few punches.
That's it.
278
00:11:28,731 --> 00:11:30,514
Ain't nobody got embarrassed.
279
00:11:30,515 --> 00:11:32,342
And I sure as hell
had nothing to do
280
00:11:32,343 --> 00:11:33,735
with that man getting killed.
281
00:11:33,736 --> 00:11:35,432
OK.
282
00:11:35,433 --> 00:11:37,608
I will note that you denied it.
Fair is fair.
283
00:11:37,609 --> 00:11:39,263
Well, I'm telling the truth.
284
00:11:44,921 --> 00:11:48,271
A few days ago,
Ted Hunter told Jackson
285
00:11:48,272 --> 00:11:49,969
he had to cut ties
with his crew.
286
00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:51,579
So we went down to the club,
287
00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:53,581
laid down Jackson's
credit card,
288
00:11:53,582 --> 00:11:57,019
and ordered up some magnums
of Don Julio 1942.
289
00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:59,239
A last hurrah kind of thing.
290
00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,894
But we didn't know
Ted was tracking
291
00:12:01,895 --> 00:12:04,723
Jackson's spending
in real time.
292
00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:08,596
Got an alert and came down
to the club to shut us down.
293
00:12:08,597 --> 00:12:10,250
And that didn't go over well?
294
00:12:10,251 --> 00:12:12,252
No.
And we got into it.
295
00:12:12,253 --> 00:12:14,254
Sorted things out, you know?
296
00:12:14,255 --> 00:12:17,475
But that was the end of it,
I swear.
297
00:12:19,260 --> 00:12:21,044
Where were you this morning?
298
00:12:23,133 --> 00:12:24,960
Hey.
299
00:12:24,961 --> 00:12:26,919
So Caro's alibi holds up.
300
00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,790
At the time of the murder,
he was losing his shirt
301
00:12:28,791 --> 00:12:31,837
at a casino 60 miles away
in the Hudson Valley.
302
00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:33,839
- OK.
- I got something here.
303
00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,797
So Ted Hunter,
a few months ago,
304
00:12:35,798 --> 00:12:37,407
took out a protective order
on his driver,
305
00:12:37,408 --> 00:12:38,495
a guy named Ethan Matthews.
306
00:12:38,496 --> 00:12:39,801
For what?
307
00:12:39,802 --> 00:12:41,063
Well, Matthews wouldn't
leave him alone.
308
00:12:41,064 --> 00:12:43,109
Kept showing up to his house,
to his office.
309
00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:46,329
Hunter says stop,
and Matthews threatened him.
310
00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:48,462
Sounds like a lead to me.
311
00:12:48,463 --> 00:12:49,986
Nice work.
312
00:12:52,554 --> 00:12:55,338
Ethan Matthews?
313
00:12:55,339 --> 00:12:56,818
NYPD.
314
00:12:56,819 --> 00:12:58,037
Oh, yeah.
315
00:12:58,038 --> 00:12:59,865
I know why you're here.
316
00:12:59,866 --> 00:13:01,170
Oh, yeah?
317
00:13:01,171 --> 00:13:03,477
I suppose that you admit
to telling Ted Hunter
318
00:13:03,478 --> 00:13:05,000
that you wanted him dead, then?
319
00:13:05,001 --> 00:13:06,828
"You destroyed my life.
320
00:13:06,829 --> 00:13:08,874
I won't stop until
you feel the same pain."
321
00:13:08,875 --> 00:13:09,831
Sound familiar?
322
00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:12,094
That's me.
323
00:13:12,095 --> 00:13:14,837
I don't even recognize
the man who sent that stuff.
324
00:13:17,753 --> 00:13:20,276
I didn't kill Ted Hunter.
325
00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:22,496
I owe the man my life.
326
00:13:22,497 --> 00:13:23,845
Oh, really?
How's that?
327
00:13:23,846 --> 00:13:26,674
I was his personal driver
for 13 years.
328
00:13:26,675 --> 00:13:29,024
Then he discovered
my little secret--
329
00:13:29,025 --> 00:13:30,156
heroin.
330
00:13:30,157 --> 00:13:31,461
So he fired me.
331
00:13:31,462 --> 00:13:34,377
I lashed out,
but I'd never hurt the man.
332
00:13:34,378 --> 00:13:36,945
He was gonna hire me back
after six months
333
00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:40,383
if I went to rehab
and got clean, which I did.
334
00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:42,690
Hell, he paid for it.
335
00:13:42,691 --> 00:13:45,519
That's his car right there.
336
00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,391
I keep it spotless,
just waiting for the day
337
00:13:48,392 --> 00:13:51,220
I can pick him up
and take him to work.
338
00:13:51,221 --> 00:13:52,744
It doesn't matter now.
339
00:13:56,009 --> 00:13:59,490
Tell me, his Android
sync up with this?
340
00:14:01,928 --> 00:14:03,145
Hey.
341
00:14:03,146 --> 00:14:05,713
Finally got access
to Ted Hunter's texts.
342
00:14:05,714 --> 00:14:07,802
And there's a nasty
exchange between him
343
00:14:07,803 --> 00:14:10,413
and his youngest son's
football coach, Brian Boggs.
344
00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:11,937
What were they beefing about?
345
00:14:11,938 --> 00:14:13,242
His son's knee.
346
00:14:13,243 --> 00:14:14,722
Ted thought he was fine.
347
00:14:14,723 --> 00:14:16,898
Took him to every top
orthopedist in New York City.
348
00:14:16,899 --> 00:14:19,205
Doctors couldn't find
anything wrong with him.
349
00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,642
No tear, nothing.
350
00:14:21,643 --> 00:14:23,122
Yeah, but the coach still
didn't want to play him.
351
00:14:23,123 --> 00:14:24,340
So Ted got pissed,
352
00:14:24,341 --> 00:14:25,951
and in the days
leading up to the murder,
353
00:14:25,952 --> 00:14:27,648
he texts the coach that he's
gonna come down to the school
354
00:14:27,649 --> 00:14:29,780
and speak to him face-to-face.
355
00:14:29,781 --> 00:14:32,087
Well, it's weird that
Josh didn't mention
356
00:14:32,088 --> 00:14:34,002
there was anything funky
going on with football,
357
00:14:34,003 --> 00:14:35,874
because it's like
that family's religion.
358
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:39,225
So try to get
to the bottom of that.
359
00:14:40,575 --> 00:14:42,184
Respectfully, I'm gonna trust
360
00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:43,838
that you and the family
can sort this out.
361
00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:45,231
This has nothing to do with me.
362
00:14:45,232 --> 00:14:48,190
Oh, we're not so certain
about that, Coach Boggs.
363
00:14:48,191 --> 00:14:49,496
The hell does that mean?
364
00:14:49,497 --> 00:14:50,845
It means you had
some pretty sharp words
365
00:14:50,846 --> 00:14:52,542
for Ted Hunter in the days
before he was found
366
00:14:52,543 --> 00:14:54,196
with a knife in his chest.
367
00:14:54,197 --> 00:14:57,156
"You come after me,
I'll come after you"?
368
00:14:57,157 --> 00:14:59,419
Ted didn't like some of
the decisions you were making.
369
00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:00,811
So two days before the murder,
370
00:15:00,812 --> 00:15:02,988
he comes down here
to sort it out.
371
00:15:02,989 --> 00:15:05,425
Seems like he was
gunning for your job.
372
00:15:05,426 --> 00:15:06,817
Yeah.
See, we're murder cops.
373
00:15:06,818 --> 00:15:07,906
So in our line of work,
374
00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:09,908
that kind of smells
like motive.
375
00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:11,910
You got to be kidding me.
376
00:15:12,868 --> 00:15:15,043
After the doctors cleared Josh,
377
00:15:15,044 --> 00:15:17,959
Ted was angry
I wasn't playing him.
378
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,309
He kept asking--
just didn't like the answer.
379
00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:21,963
Which was?
380
00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:24,052
I don't think Josh ever
got hurt in the first place.
381
00:15:24,053 --> 00:15:26,968
You're telling me
Josh faked his injury?
382
00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:29,101
You think this was his way
of quitting the team?
383
00:15:29,102 --> 00:15:32,278
I think Josh resents the type
of athlete that his brother is.
384
00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:35,803
He resents the idea that he's
supposed to be the next one.
385
00:15:35,804 --> 00:15:37,544
I'm not sure
anybody ever asked Josh
386
00:15:37,545 --> 00:15:38,980
if he really wanted to do this.
387
00:15:38,981 --> 00:15:40,982
All right, so you were
just buying him some time
388
00:15:40,983 --> 00:15:42,505
while he worked things out, huh?
389
00:15:42,506 --> 00:15:43,724
He knew what a thing
it would be
390
00:15:43,725 --> 00:15:45,421
for him to quit football,
391
00:15:45,422 --> 00:15:47,467
what it would mean
to his father.
392
00:15:47,468 --> 00:15:49,643
So I--I played along.
393
00:15:49,644 --> 00:15:51,079
I pretended, you know,
394
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,820
that I thought
he was still hurt.
395
00:15:52,821 --> 00:15:55,040
Then his father came
down here spitting fire.
396
00:15:55,041 --> 00:15:56,650
And I had no choice.
397
00:15:56,651 --> 00:15:58,434
I had to tell him the truth--
398
00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:00,045
that his son wasn't hurt,
399
00:16:00,046 --> 00:16:02,961
that he just doesn't want
to play football.
400
00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:10,751
So you find the guy?
401
00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,492
We did, Josh.
402
00:16:12,493 --> 00:16:13,973
Take a look at this.
403
00:16:17,672 --> 00:16:19,803
That's you on Monday
cutting through the gym.
404
00:16:19,804 --> 00:16:21,980
It's a shortcut
to the parking lot, right?
405
00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:23,155
Uh-huh.
406
00:16:24,853 --> 00:16:27,289
We've all been there--
empty gym and a ball.
407
00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:28,508
Got to take some shots, right?
408
00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:30,075
I mean,
that's just being a boy.
409
00:16:31,686 --> 00:16:34,035
Bro, what are you doing?
410
00:16:34,036 --> 00:16:38,344
I mean, some days,
my knee feels pretty good.
411
00:16:38,345 --> 00:16:40,868
Or you never injured it
in the first place.
412
00:16:40,869 --> 00:16:42,174
What?
No, that's ridiculous.
413
00:16:42,175 --> 00:16:43,479
He's--he's clearly--
414
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,046
Coach Boggs gave you
some space and some time
415
00:16:45,047 --> 00:16:48,136
to figure out
what you wanted to do, right?
416
00:16:48,137 --> 00:16:50,356
Whether you wanted
to play ball or not.
417
00:16:50,357 --> 00:16:55,578
He told you to go hang out
in the library after school
418
00:16:55,579 --> 00:16:57,145
while practices were
going on, right?
419
00:16:57,146 --> 00:16:58,364
Josh, what is this?
420
00:16:58,365 --> 00:17:00,018
Because Coach Boggs knew
that you lied
421
00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:01,628
to your father
about your injury,
422
00:17:01,629 --> 00:17:03,891
that you lied to your father
about going to practices too.
423
00:17:03,892 --> 00:17:05,458
No, that's not true.
424
00:17:05,459 --> 00:17:07,547
Josh, we recovered
425
00:17:07,548 --> 00:17:09,549
your search history
from the library.
426
00:17:09,550 --> 00:17:11,986
And we saw that you purchased
a 4-inch serrated blade,
427
00:17:11,987 --> 00:17:13,509
just like this one
that was found
428
00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:17,383
near the murder scene
covered in your father's blood.
429
00:17:17,384 --> 00:17:18,906
Oh, my God.
430
00:17:18,907 --> 00:17:20,560
On your feet, kid.
431
00:17:20,561 --> 00:17:22,083
Come on, man.
432
00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:23,215
Come on.
433
00:17:24,869 --> 00:17:26,218
Hands behind your back.
434
00:17:26,219 --> 00:17:27,741
Josh.
435
00:17:27,742 --> 00:17:32,485
You are under arrest
for the murder
436
00:17:32,486 --> 00:17:34,922
of your father, Ted Hunter.
437
00:17:34,923 --> 00:17:36,576
Josh,
what are they talking about?
438
00:17:36,577 --> 00:17:38,622
Officers, hold on. Wait.
439
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,414
How do you feel
about ordering
440
00:17:48,415 --> 00:17:49,632
from that dumpling place
this evening?
441
00:17:49,633 --> 00:17:52,113
I actually brought food
from home.
442
00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:54,463
I'm trying to save
a little money right now.
443
00:17:54,464 --> 00:17:57,553
- You OK?
- Yeah.
444
00:17:57,554 --> 00:17:59,294
It's dumb.
445
00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:01,209
I have this crazy uncle.
446
00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:02,819
He's the worst with money.
447
00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:07,302
I mean, I made budgets.
I have taught him Excel.
448
00:18:07,303 --> 00:18:09,043
Nothing takes.
449
00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:12,786
So depending on the month,
we all have to pay his rent.
450
00:18:12,787 --> 00:18:13,918
And this month?
451
00:18:19,141 --> 00:18:20,664
What?
452
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,670
I went to some Al-Anon meetings
453
00:18:27,671 --> 00:18:29,977
when my brother was doing
terrible things to himself,
454
00:18:29,978 --> 00:18:31,152
taking drugs.
455
00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:33,154
I was banging my head
into the wall.
456
00:18:33,155 --> 00:18:34,460
They have this thing.
457
00:18:34,461 --> 00:18:37,289
They call it the three C's.
458
00:18:37,290 --> 00:18:38,899
You didn't cause it.
459
00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:40,248
You can't control it.
460
00:18:40,249 --> 00:18:42,990
You can't cure it.
461
00:18:42,991 --> 00:18:45,732
You know, we try and help
the people we love,
462
00:18:45,733 --> 00:18:48,604
but at some point,
you just draw the line.
463
00:18:48,605 --> 00:18:50,954
You walk away.
464
00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:53,131
I've been getting a lot
of calls about this one.
465
00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:54,436
About Josh Hunter?
466
00:18:54,437 --> 00:18:56,482
No, about Eric Hunter.
467
00:18:56,483 --> 00:18:58,527
Well, Eric's got
nothing to do with it.
468
00:18:58,528 --> 00:19:00,486
I know, but when a kid's
going high in the draft,
469
00:19:00,487 --> 00:19:02,531
a lot of powerful people
get nervous, so...
470
00:19:02,532 --> 00:19:05,099
Like Sam said,
we have no reason to believe
471
00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,187
that Eric is involved.
472
00:19:06,188 --> 00:19:07,406
OK, good.
473
00:19:07,407 --> 00:19:09,190
So what do we know?
474
00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:10,844
What really happened?
475
00:19:10,845 --> 00:19:14,369
Well, it's still
a work in progress,
476
00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:18,199
but largely circumstantial
right now.
477
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,507
But here's what we can prove.
478
00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:25,380
Josh bought a knife identical
to the murder weapon.
479
00:19:25,381 --> 00:19:27,513
There is ARGUS footage
of the actual stabbing.
480
00:19:27,514 --> 00:19:29,819
Killer appears to have the same
height and build as Josh.
481
00:19:29,820 --> 00:19:32,822
And when asked where he was
at the time of the murder,
482
00:19:32,823 --> 00:19:35,826
Josh lied to police,
said he was home.
483
00:19:37,872 --> 00:19:39,612
You seem to have
left out motive.
484
00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:41,309
Ah.
485
00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:43,137
You noticed.
Uh, yeah.
486
00:19:43,138 --> 00:19:44,269
Hopefully the jury will be--
487
00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:45,748
Cases like this one
can be tricky,
488
00:19:45,749 --> 00:19:47,228
even with a tidal wave
of evidence.
489
00:19:47,229 --> 00:19:50,666
Juries tend to take their cue
from surviving family,
490
00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,842
almost as much
as from the evidence itself.
491
00:19:52,843 --> 00:19:54,235
They'll be looking
to the big brother
492
00:19:54,236 --> 00:19:55,541
to see where
he comes down on this.
493
00:19:55,542 --> 00:19:57,238
Does he want justice
for his father,
494
00:19:57,239 --> 00:19:59,415
or does he want to see
his little brother walk free?
495
00:20:04,507 --> 00:20:05,768
Wait, I'm sorry.
496
00:20:05,769 --> 00:20:08,336
So you guys are asking me
to do what exactly?
497
00:20:08,337 --> 00:20:11,861
So we need you
to help the jury understand
498
00:20:11,862 --> 00:20:14,037
that your father was
a good man--
499
00:20:14,038 --> 00:20:16,388
that he loved his family,
that you loved him,
500
00:20:16,389 --> 00:20:19,782
and that he will be
deeply missed.
501
00:20:19,783 --> 00:20:24,700
So you want me to testify
against my brother?
502
00:20:24,701 --> 00:20:28,095
Testify in support
of your father.
503
00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:31,446
We know how complicated
this is for you, Eric,
504
00:20:31,447 --> 00:20:34,798
but we really need your help.
505
00:20:36,409 --> 00:20:38,932
No.
506
00:20:38,933 --> 00:20:40,890
No, I won't turn my back
on my brother.
507
00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:42,849
Your brother murdered
your father.
508
00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:45,591
He hunted him down,
he laid in wait for him,
509
00:20:45,592 --> 00:20:47,941
and he stabbed a knife
into his heart twice.
510
00:20:47,942 --> 00:20:49,769
I said I won't do it.
511
00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:50,900
All right?
512
00:20:50,901 --> 00:20:52,467
So if you don't mind.
513
00:21:00,607 --> 00:21:02,216
The defense is
trying to suppress
514
00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:04,131
Josh's statement to the police.
515
00:21:04,132 --> 00:21:05,786
On what basis?
516
00:21:08,441 --> 00:21:10,180
It's inadmissible hearsay.
517
00:21:10,181 --> 00:21:11,356
But it's not being offered
518
00:21:11,357 --> 00:21:12,966
for the truth of the matter
asserted.
519
00:21:12,967 --> 00:21:15,925
It's being offered to show
consciousness of guilt.
520
00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:17,971
He told the police
he was at home
521
00:21:17,972 --> 00:21:20,408
nursing a knee injury in order
to establish a false alibi.
522
00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:21,670
My client's statement
to the police
523
00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:23,368
is legally unreliable.
524
00:21:23,369 --> 00:21:24,630
Why is that?
525
00:21:24,631 --> 00:21:25,805
It was given
under extreme duress.
526
00:21:25,806 --> 00:21:27,328
There is no evidence
of coercion.
527
00:21:27,329 --> 00:21:28,460
There doesn't need to be.
528
00:21:28,461 --> 00:21:30,375
My client is 17 years old.
529
00:21:30,376 --> 00:21:31,637
He is a child.
530
00:21:31,638 --> 00:21:33,639
He was in a very fragile state.
531
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,423
He had just learned
his father was killed.
532
00:21:35,424 --> 00:21:36,946
He wasn't thinking clearly.
533
00:21:36,947 --> 00:21:40,428
And the prosecutors want
to use this moment of confusion
534
00:21:40,429 --> 00:21:42,125
to bury him.
535
00:21:42,126 --> 00:21:44,171
They're basing their whole damn
case on this one misstatement,
536
00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:47,522
which, by the way, was given
without an adult present,
537
00:21:47,523 --> 00:21:49,568
except for Josh's
20-year-old brother,
538
00:21:49,569 --> 00:21:50,960
who was also grieving.
539
00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:53,006
No, the defendant was
not being interrogated.
540
00:21:53,007 --> 00:21:54,834
He didn't have the right
to an interested adult.
541
00:21:54,835 --> 00:21:56,531
He was also not under arrest.
542
00:21:56,532 --> 00:21:58,751
He talked with the police
freely and voluntarily.
543
00:21:58,752 --> 00:22:00,100
Enough.
544
00:22:00,101 --> 00:22:02,668
Looking at the totality
of the circumstances,
545
00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:05,671
the declarant's age,
his state of mind,
546
00:22:05,672 --> 00:22:07,281
the lack of counsel,
547
00:22:07,282 --> 00:22:08,674
I'm granting the motion.
548
00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:10,153
Your Honor,
I would urge you--
549
00:22:10,154 --> 00:22:11,633
It's over, Mr. Price.
550
00:22:11,634 --> 00:22:13,853
His statement to the police
regarding his whereabouts
551
00:22:13,854 --> 00:22:15,943
the day of the murder is out.
552
00:22:21,209 --> 00:22:22,427
Look, we're still fine.
553
00:22:22,428 --> 00:22:23,950
We've got video of the crime.
554
00:22:23,951 --> 00:22:26,605
Which is grainy and doesn't
reveal the killer's face.
555
00:22:26,606 --> 00:22:28,781
We can prove
Josh bought the knife.
556
00:22:28,782 --> 00:22:31,087
How many of those knives
were sold last year?
557
00:22:31,088 --> 00:22:34,134
- 5,703.
- Yeah.
558
00:22:34,135 --> 00:22:36,963
We need a theory of the case,
559
00:22:36,964 --> 00:22:40,183
a narrative for the jury
to buy into.
560
00:22:40,184 --> 00:22:41,490
Motive.
561
00:22:42,752 --> 00:22:44,753
Other than the defendant,
who won't talk,
562
00:22:44,754 --> 00:22:46,886
and the victim, who can't,
563
00:22:46,887 --> 00:22:48,714
there is only one other person
who can help us
564
00:22:48,715 --> 00:22:50,324
make sense of this--
Eric Hunter.
565
00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:51,630
Eric was very clear.
566
00:22:51,631 --> 00:22:53,458
He's not interested
in working with us.
567
00:22:53,459 --> 00:22:55,155
I get that
he is in a tight spot,
568
00:22:55,156 --> 00:22:56,635
but at the end of the day,
569
00:22:56,636 --> 00:22:57,984
wouldn't you want justice
for your father?
570
00:22:57,985 --> 00:22:59,289
Yeah.
571
00:22:59,290 --> 00:23:02,205
A father that Eric idolized
by all accounts.
572
00:23:02,206 --> 00:23:04,425
Teenagers who murder
their parents
573
00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:05,948
basically fall into two camps.
574
00:23:05,949 --> 00:23:07,733
They are mentally ill,
which doesn't appear
575
00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:09,561
to be the case here,
or they're rebelling
576
00:23:09,562 --> 00:23:10,736
against parental control,
all right?
577
00:23:10,737 --> 00:23:13,913
Rules about dating,
curfews, money.
578
00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:16,176
I spoke with
Josh's friends, teachers.
579
00:23:16,177 --> 00:23:17,612
He seemed pretty normal.
580
00:23:17,613 --> 00:23:19,309
He spent most of his time
playing sports.
581
00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:21,616
Have Computer Crimes take
another look at his phone,
582
00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:23,792
his computer, see what websites
583
00:23:23,793 --> 00:23:26,839
he was visiting,
who he was communicating with,
584
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,842
sharing his feelings with.
585
00:23:35,283 --> 00:23:38,938
We just got encrypted messages
exchanged between Josh Hunter
586
00:23:38,939 --> 00:23:40,548
and his therapist,
covering a period
587
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:43,159
of seven months
prior to the murder.
588
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,510
I'm sure that's helpful,
but conversations
589
00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:47,250
between a defendant
and his therapist
590
00:23:47,251 --> 00:23:48,469
are obviously privileged.
591
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:50,906
Yeah, if the therapist
is a human being.
592
00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:52,212
Pardon me?
593
00:23:52,213 --> 00:23:56,042
Josh's therapist was
an AI-generated chatbot.
594
00:23:56,043 --> 00:23:57,130
What?
595
00:23:58,654 --> 00:24:01,221
So who was on the other end
of the phone, so to speak?
596
00:24:01,222 --> 00:24:03,789
No one.
An algorithm.
597
00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:06,095
Was anyone monitoring
the conversation?
598
00:24:06,096 --> 00:24:08,533
The advice this therapist
was doling out?
599
00:24:08,534 --> 00:24:10,186
No.
600
00:24:12,276 --> 00:24:14,104
That is terrifying.
601
00:24:17,543 --> 00:24:19,021
It's more common
than you might think.
602
00:24:19,022 --> 00:24:21,633
Young people are more
comfortable talking to a screen
603
00:24:21,634 --> 00:24:23,243
than a human being.
604
00:24:23,244 --> 00:24:24,810
This is uncharted territory,
605
00:24:24,811 --> 00:24:27,029
but if Josh was talking
to a machine,
606
00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:29,510
then in my mind,
that's fair game.
607
00:24:29,511 --> 00:24:31,469
What did the messages say?
608
00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,514
There are thousands of them.
We're still reading.
609
00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:35,690
But so far, we can tell
610
00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,823
that Josh was in
a very dark place.
611
00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:39,825
He began to despise his father.
612
00:24:39,826 --> 00:24:42,131
Apparently, his father was
very controlling
613
00:24:42,132 --> 00:24:44,830
and forced him into
an extreme exercise regimen.
614
00:24:44,831 --> 00:24:47,963
I'm talking extreme--
like, hard to believe.
615
00:24:47,964 --> 00:24:50,183
The goal, of course,
was to mold him
616
00:24:50,184 --> 00:24:51,401
into an elite athlete.
617
00:24:51,402 --> 00:24:53,839
He also kept him
on a very strict diet.
618
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,668
No carbs, no sugar,
no processed food.
619
00:24:56,669 --> 00:24:58,321
He found a Snickers
in his backpack once.
620
00:24:58,322 --> 00:25:01,107
He made him run home
from practice, 10 miles.
621
00:25:01,108 --> 00:25:03,370
"He's gonna run me to death.
Literally.
622
00:25:03,371 --> 00:25:06,113
I hate him.
It's him or me."
623
00:25:08,463 --> 00:25:11,204
We have
a disciplinarian father
624
00:25:11,205 --> 00:25:13,554
putting his son
through an extreme
625
00:25:13,555 --> 00:25:15,556
exercise
and nutritional regimen,
626
00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:17,776
which worked wonders on Eric,
627
00:25:17,777 --> 00:25:20,648
turned him
into an NFL prospect.
628
00:25:20,649 --> 00:25:22,128
But it turned Josh--
629
00:25:22,129 --> 00:25:24,870
Into a murderer.
630
00:25:24,871 --> 00:25:27,830
Sure sounds like motive
to me.
631
00:25:31,921 --> 00:25:34,227
These text conversations
are protected
632
00:25:34,228 --> 00:25:35,620
by patient-therapist privilege,
Your Honor.
633
00:25:35,621 --> 00:25:38,013
That is ridiculous
and bizarre.
634
00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:40,973
The defendant was communicating
with an AI generated chatbot,
635
00:25:40,974 --> 00:25:42,365
not a therapist.
636
00:25:42,366 --> 00:25:43,453
The privilege was designed
637
00:25:43,454 --> 00:25:44,933
to encourage people
to get help.
638
00:25:44,934 --> 00:25:46,456
That's exactly what Josh did.
639
00:25:46,457 --> 00:25:48,067
He thought he was talking
to a real therapist.
640
00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:49,416
Well, the law is clear.
641
00:25:49,417 --> 00:25:51,287
Privilege applies
only to registered,
642
00:25:51,288 --> 00:25:53,420
licensed mental health
professionals.
643
00:25:53,421 --> 00:25:55,857
Courts have found
that attorney-client privilege
644
00:25:55,858 --> 00:25:57,598
applies to unlicensed lawyers.
645
00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,166
The same standard should apply
to unlicensed therapists.
646
00:26:00,167 --> 00:26:04,257
It's immaterial if this thing
is licensed or unlicensed.
647
00:26:04,258 --> 00:26:06,564
It's not a therapist
in the first place.
648
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,609
AI-generated therapy
is an emerging practice.
649
00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:10,872
The law goes hand in hand
with human progress.
650
00:26:10,873 --> 00:26:12,221
But that has nothing to do
651
00:26:12,222 --> 00:26:13,962
with the current state
of the law.
652
00:26:13,963 --> 00:26:16,138
If Mr. Winters feels strongly
about this issue,
653
00:26:16,139 --> 00:26:17,705
he should go to Albany
and lobby
654
00:26:17,706 --> 00:26:20,099
for legislation
allowing machines
655
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,491
to become licensed therapists.
656
00:26:21,492 --> 00:26:23,711
Short of that,
privilege does not apply,
657
00:26:23,712 --> 00:26:26,018
which means
this is admissible evidence
658
00:26:26,019 --> 00:26:29,021
vital to the People's case.
659
00:26:29,022 --> 00:26:32,415
I agree with the People.
660
00:26:32,416 --> 00:26:34,069
I'm not extending privilege
to what amounts
661
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:37,812
to a computer program
simulating human conversation.
662
00:26:37,813 --> 00:26:39,161
Motion denied.
663
00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:40,599
Thank you, Your Honor.
664
00:26:42,078 --> 00:26:43,818
In reviewing the messages
665
00:26:43,819 --> 00:26:47,430
that Josh sent
his so-called therapist,
666
00:26:47,431 --> 00:26:50,520
could you describe
the general tone?
667
00:26:50,521 --> 00:26:52,348
Angry. Resentful.
668
00:26:52,349 --> 00:26:54,046
Angry at whom?
669
00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:56,004
His father, Ted Hunter.
670
00:26:56,005 --> 00:26:57,440
Resentful about what?
671
00:26:57,441 --> 00:26:58,833
Football, basically.
672
00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:00,880
The training regimen
that his father implemented.
673
00:27:05,928 --> 00:27:08,713
Are these
the defendant's words?
674
00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:09,975
Yes, they are.
675
00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:11,846
He wrote that March 12th.
676
00:27:11,847 --> 00:27:15,023
And later that same day,
did he make an online purchase?
677
00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:17,373
He spent $249
678
00:27:17,374 --> 00:27:20,594
on a tactical, serrated,
folding blade
679
00:27:20,595 --> 00:27:23,031
manufactured by Iron Forge.
680
00:27:23,032 --> 00:27:24,424
He had that sent to his home.
681
00:27:24,425 --> 00:27:25,817
Who paid for it?
682
00:27:25,818 --> 00:27:27,907
He used
his father's credit card.
683
00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:33,694
I'm showing you what's been
marked as Exhibit 9B.
684
00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:35,174
Have you seen
this knife before?
685
00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:37,132
I have.
We found that in a trash can
686
00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:38,220
near the murder scene.
687
00:27:38,221 --> 00:27:39,613
It was coated in blood.
688
00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:42,224
And DNA test results confirmed
689
00:27:42,225 --> 00:27:44,444
that is indeed
the victim's blood.
690
00:27:44,445 --> 00:27:46,664
Could you describe
this knife?
691
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:50,580
It is a serrated,
folding, tactical blade
692
00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:52,408
manufactured by Iron Forge.
693
00:27:52,409 --> 00:27:54,410
Thank you, Detective.
694
00:27:54,411 --> 00:27:56,370
Your Honor, may I?
695
00:27:59,634 --> 00:28:02,027
Can you read the message
that Josh sent to his therapist
696
00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:03,637
on January 22nd?
697
00:28:03,638 --> 00:28:04,986
"Couldn't finish
sled sprints,
698
00:28:04,987 --> 00:28:08,163
"so Dad made me do
200 Nordics on the SledTred.
699
00:28:08,164 --> 00:28:11,819
Barfed up my protein shake,
so Dad made me do 100 more."
700
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:14,604
So it's clear that
the defendant was forced
701
00:28:14,605 --> 00:28:17,259
to exercise until he vomited.
702
00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:20,610
His punishment for vomiting is
that he had to exercise more.
703
00:28:20,611 --> 00:28:22,221
Do I have that right?
704
00:28:22,222 --> 00:28:23,439
It would appear so.
705
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,224
How did Josh's therapist
respond?
706
00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:27,662
- Objection.
- Overruled.
707
00:28:30,796 --> 00:28:33,406
"Josh, what you're describing
is deliberately aggressive,
708
00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:36,757
"violent behavior
causing bodily harm.
709
00:28:36,758 --> 00:28:39,107
The definition
of physical abuse."
710
00:28:41,241 --> 00:28:43,111
"I believe
your life is in danger."
711
00:28:43,112 --> 00:28:44,939
So it was the opinion
of Josh's therapist--
712
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:46,201
Objection.
713
00:28:46,202 --> 00:28:49,248
Your Honor,
in what world are the musings
714
00:28:49,249 --> 00:28:52,773
of some algorithm remotely
relevant in this court?
715
00:28:52,774 --> 00:28:55,123
It is relevant to support
my client's assertion
716
00:28:55,124 --> 00:28:56,777
of self-defense.
717
00:28:56,778 --> 00:28:58,387
Which is the first
we're hearing
718
00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:01,477
anything related
to self-defense, Your Honor.
719
00:29:01,478 --> 00:29:03,262
I'll see counsel in chambers.
720
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:09,007
Your Honor,
the facts do not support
721
00:29:09,008 --> 00:29:10,356
a claim of self-defense.
722
00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:12,140
The defendant hunted down
the victim.
723
00:29:12,141 --> 00:29:13,315
He was never in danger.
724
00:29:13,316 --> 00:29:14,708
My client thought
he was in danger.
725
00:29:14,709 --> 00:29:16,231
No, that is not enough.
726
00:29:16,232 --> 00:29:18,059
The defense would have to prove
that a reasonable person
727
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:19,974
in the same situation
would do the same thing.
728
00:29:19,975 --> 00:29:22,455
Not when the accused
is suffering
729
00:29:22,456 --> 00:29:23,935
from battered child syndrome.
730
00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:26,241
Which isn't a recognized
defense in New York.
731
00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:27,590
7.06.
732
00:29:27,591 --> 00:29:28,896
Battered woman syndrome?
733
00:29:28,897 --> 00:29:30,550
That's what we call it
colloquially,
734
00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:33,118
but actually it's called
the abused person syndrome,
735
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,381
which covers people who are
related by consanguinity,
736
00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:36,686
blood relatives.
737
00:29:36,687 --> 00:29:39,515
The statute is
clearly intended to protect
738
00:29:39,516 --> 00:29:41,909
adult blood relatives
and women.
739
00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:45,521
Except it doesn't
say that explicitly.
740
00:29:45,522 --> 00:29:47,349
I'm allowing it.
741
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,830
It's up to the jury to decide
whether the defendant
742
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:53,574
reasonably believed
his life was in danger or not.
743
00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:02,669
What did you conclude,
Doctor Morley,
744
00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:04,802
from your forensic evaluation
of my client?
745
00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:07,674
I believe that Josh suffers
from battered child syndrome
746
00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:09,763
as a result
of verbal degradation,
747
00:30:09,764 --> 00:30:12,374
extreme discipline,
and physical punishment.
748
00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:14,028
Josh's father may have believed
749
00:30:14,029 --> 00:30:16,030
he was pursuing structure
and discipline,
750
00:30:16,031 --> 00:30:18,032
but it crossed the line
into abuse.
751
00:30:18,033 --> 00:30:19,991
And it lasted for years,
752
00:30:19,992 --> 00:30:22,602
essentially from the onset
of Josh's pubescence
753
00:30:22,603 --> 00:30:24,299
until the day
of his father's death.
754
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:28,129
How did that impact Josh's
ability to perceive danger?
755
00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:30,218
He developed
chronic hypervigilance.
756
00:30:30,219 --> 00:30:33,092
He was always bracing
for more punishment.
757
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:35,789
He lived in fear.
758
00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:37,660
Worse than that, arguably.
759
00:30:37,661 --> 00:30:40,620
Kill or be killed.
760
00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:42,840
That's more like it.
761
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,363
Thank you, Doctor Morley.
762
00:30:44,364 --> 00:30:45,930
Cross-examination.
763
00:30:45,931 --> 00:30:48,062
Did Josh tell you
that his father beat him?
764
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,107
No.
765
00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:50,108
Threatened his life?
766
00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:51,718
No.
767
00:30:51,719 --> 00:30:55,635
So Josh Hunter's perception
that his life was in danger
768
00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:58,072
at the moment that he elected
769
00:30:58,073 --> 00:31:00,770
to plunge a knife
into his father's heart,
770
00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:04,862
this perception was not
genuine or reasonable, was it?
771
00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:08,300
I can only tell you
what I observed, Mr. Price,
772
00:31:08,301 --> 00:31:10,780
which is that Josh believed
on that morning
773
00:31:10,781 --> 00:31:14,654
that his life, his survival,
was in jeopardy.
774
00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:17,178
Only Josh has seen
what he has seen,
775
00:31:17,179 --> 00:31:18,223
feared what he has feared
776
00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:20,181
in the way
that he has feared it.
777
00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:24,446
You are free to call
his actions unreasonable.
778
00:31:24,447 --> 00:31:26,796
I suppose your job requires it.
779
00:31:26,797 --> 00:31:29,583
I'm just not comfortable
doing that.
780
00:31:31,541 --> 00:31:33,542
You loved your father,
didn't you?
781
00:31:33,543 --> 00:31:35,370
Yes.
782
00:31:35,371 --> 00:31:37,633
He--he was my hero.
783
00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:39,158
And you killed him?
784
00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:44,511
Yeah.
785
00:31:46,643 --> 00:31:50,820
I guess I just snapped.
786
00:31:50,821 --> 00:31:54,824
I can't explain it,
but I couldn't take it anymore.
787
00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:56,697
You ever been
to McDonald's, Josh?
788
00:31:59,352 --> 00:32:02,615
Uh, no.
789
00:32:02,616 --> 00:32:05,139
Ever tried
movie theater popcorn?
790
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:06,184
No.
791
00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:07,359
A sip of beer?
792
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,796
No.
793
00:32:09,797 --> 00:32:12,842
You go to prom last year?
794
00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:16,672
Um, my dad didn't
want me to go.
795
00:32:16,673 --> 00:32:19,632
Shortly before
your dad's death,
796
00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,416
you more or less quit the team.
797
00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:22,722
Yeah.
798
00:32:22,723 --> 00:32:25,464
Uh, I told everybody
that my knee was injured.
799
00:32:25,465 --> 00:32:27,596
Did your dad find out?
800
00:32:27,597 --> 00:32:28,597
Yeah.
801
00:32:28,598 --> 00:32:29,816
What did he do?
802
00:32:29,817 --> 00:32:32,862
He woke me up at 2:00 a.m.
803
00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:35,996
and we drove out
to the football field.
804
00:32:35,997 --> 00:32:39,304
Did this thing called 50-40s,
805
00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,871
where you sprint
to the 40-yard line and back
806
00:32:41,872 --> 00:32:45,964
25 times on a timer.
807
00:32:47,443 --> 00:32:49,009
Did you make it?
808
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:50,663
No.
809
00:32:50,664 --> 00:32:55,842
So he made me do it again
until I threw up.
810
00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:59,238
He bring you water
or anything?
811
00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:03,067
No.
812
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:07,767
He said,
"This is just the beginning.
813
00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:10,074
I'm gonna turn you into a man."
814
00:33:10,075 --> 00:33:11,336
Whatever it took.
815
00:33:11,337 --> 00:33:12,728
Did that scare you?
816
00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:16,428
I've never been so afraid
in my entire life.
817
00:33:18,474 --> 00:33:20,171
I thought he was gonna kill me.
818
00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:21,650
Thank you.
819
00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:22,782
Nothing further.
820
00:33:25,916 --> 00:33:28,483
Josh, did you ever
tell your father
821
00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:32,618
that you didn't want to be
an elite football player?
822
00:33:32,619 --> 00:33:34,098
No.
823
00:33:34,099 --> 00:33:35,751
God, no.
824
00:33:35,752 --> 00:33:39,190
So you have no way of knowing
how he would have responded.
825
00:33:39,191 --> 00:33:42,062
I know exactly how
he would have responded.
826
00:33:42,063 --> 00:33:44,760
He would have called me a sissy
and then tortured me
827
00:33:44,761 --> 00:33:47,111
with some sort
of crazy workout.
828
00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:50,331
Did you ever raise
any of your fears or concerns
829
00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:53,552
with your teachers at school?
830
00:33:53,553 --> 00:33:55,032
- No.
- Your coaches?
831
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:57,077
Your--your teammates?
- No.
832
00:33:57,078 --> 00:33:59,210
Did you ever call the police?
833
00:33:59,211 --> 00:34:02,604
No.
But I told my brother, Eric.
834
00:34:02,605 --> 00:34:03,953
Told him what?
835
00:34:03,954 --> 00:34:06,652
I told him that
my dad was gonna kill me.
836
00:34:06,653 --> 00:34:11,048
And he just--
he told me to suck it up.
837
00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,007
Be a man.
838
00:34:16,445 --> 00:34:18,882
I wish I was tougher, man.
839
00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:22,886
But I'm not.
840
00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:26,628
I'm not you, Eric.
841
00:34:30,242 --> 00:34:34,723
I'm... so sorry.
842
00:34:38,772 --> 00:34:41,252
I'm so sorry.
843
00:34:47,346 --> 00:34:49,347
You think the jury
might actually find
844
00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:51,262
that Josh acted
in self-defense?
845
00:34:51,263 --> 00:34:53,612
I think there is
enough of a chance
846
00:34:53,613 --> 00:34:56,484
that we should consider
offering him the opportunity
847
00:34:56,485 --> 00:34:58,530
to plead out manslaughter.
848
00:34:58,531 --> 00:35:00,706
After hearing that testimony
in the courtroom,
849
00:35:00,707 --> 00:35:03,143
I think it might be
the right ethical choice too.
850
00:35:03,144 --> 00:35:06,364
No.
851
00:35:06,365 --> 00:35:08,975
You don't get to stalk down
a human being
852
00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:13,371
and put a knife in their heart
because you're too weak
853
00:35:13,372 --> 00:35:15,764
to handle what
the world served you.
854
00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:17,810
By all accounts,
Eric Hunter went through
855
00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:20,117
exactly the same thing
as Josh did.
856
00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:22,554
And Eric appears to be
well-adjusted, thriving even,
857
00:35:22,555 --> 00:35:23,990
at least before this.
858
00:35:23,991 --> 00:35:25,557
Well, they're not
cookie cutters, Nolan.
859
00:35:25,558 --> 00:35:26,993
We're all built differently.
860
00:35:26,994 --> 00:35:29,256
Which is, again,
not a justification for murder.
861
00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:32,607
My father was...
862
00:35:32,608 --> 00:35:36,133
not exactly warm and fuzzy.
863
00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:40,702
He was cold and unforgiving.
864
00:35:40,703 --> 00:35:41,964
There was not a lot
of affection.
865
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:44,489
He shook my hand
once a year on my birthday.
866
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:48,014
And--and guess what.
867
00:35:48,015 --> 00:35:50,625
Neither I nor either
of my two brothers
868
00:35:50,626 --> 00:35:53,150
ever resorted to murdering him.
869
00:35:55,414 --> 00:35:57,632
So what's the plan, Nolan?
870
00:35:57,633 --> 00:36:00,983
I'm gonna call Eric Hunter
as a rebuttal witness.
871
00:36:00,984 --> 00:36:02,855
As a hostile witness?
872
00:36:02,856 --> 00:36:04,248
Correct.
873
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,035
OK.
874
00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:10,254
Trust your instincts.
875
00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:23,615
Can you tell the jury
the circumstances
876
00:36:23,616 --> 00:36:25,225
under which you're here?
877
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:26,922
You gave me a subpoena.
878
00:36:26,923 --> 00:36:30,448
Making you what we call
a hostile witness.
879
00:36:30,449 --> 00:36:32,232
You're not here
'cause you want to be here.
880
00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:33,538
Correct.
881
00:36:33,539 --> 00:36:34,626
What did I tell you
would happen
882
00:36:34,627 --> 00:36:37,716
if you did not
testify here today?
883
00:36:37,717 --> 00:36:39,935
That I would be arrested.
884
00:36:39,936 --> 00:36:41,372
What did I tell you
would happen
885
00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:43,504
if you did not tell the truth?
886
00:36:43,505 --> 00:36:45,463
I would be charged
with perjury.
887
00:36:45,464 --> 00:36:48,292
And you understand
both of those things?
888
00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:49,771
Yes, I do.
889
00:36:49,772 --> 00:36:52,209
Was your father
a horrible man?
890
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:54,472
A monster?
891
00:36:54,473 --> 00:36:56,474
- No.
- Did he deserve to die?
892
00:36:56,475 --> 00:36:59,041
- No.
- Did he love you?
893
00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:00,129
Yes.
894
00:37:00,130 --> 00:37:01,480
Did he love your brother?
895
00:37:03,046 --> 00:37:04,221
Yes.
896
00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:08,181
Your father wanted
you boys to succeed.
897
00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:10,662
Correct?
- Yes.
898
00:37:10,663 --> 00:37:13,447
When our mother died, he--
899
00:37:13,448 --> 00:37:16,276
he was terrified.
900
00:37:16,277 --> 00:37:19,061
He didn't think he had
what it took to raise us alone.
901
00:37:19,062 --> 00:37:22,500
So he became very strict.
902
00:37:22,501 --> 00:37:24,937
He believed in tough love?
903
00:37:24,938 --> 00:37:27,548
- Yes.
- Next year, you expect
904
00:37:27,549 --> 00:37:30,029
to be drafted
into the NFL, correct?
905
00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:32,379
Well, I hope to be so lucky.
Yes.
906
00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:33,641
Would you be
a first round pick
907
00:37:33,642 --> 00:37:34,816
if it weren't for your father?
908
00:37:34,817 --> 00:37:37,819
- No.
- But he was hard on you.
909
00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:38,994
Yes.
910
00:37:38,995 --> 00:37:40,692
He said cruel things
to you sometimes.
911
00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:42,302
He questioned your commitment.
912
00:37:42,303 --> 00:37:43,695
He made you work out
extra hard.
913
00:37:43,696 --> 00:37:45,305
He ran you to the point
of exhaustion
914
00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:46,393
Yes.
915
00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:47,438
Did you ever
try to murder him?
916
00:37:47,439 --> 00:37:49,004
No!
917
00:37:50,572 --> 00:37:53,226
But see, Josh isn't like me.
All right?
918
00:37:53,227 --> 00:37:55,228
He's a good person.
919
00:37:55,229 --> 00:37:56,534
Better than me.
920
00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,711
You see,
I could just turn it off.
921
00:37:59,712 --> 00:38:03,062
But Josh, he's--
he's sensitive.
922
00:38:03,063 --> 00:38:04,716
He felt stuff deep down,
923
00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,545
and all of that hurt him.
924
00:38:07,546 --> 00:38:09,068
It hurt him more than I--
925
00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:11,767
than I ever even knew
until now.
926
00:38:13,943 --> 00:38:17,381
Because he didn't tell you
about his feelings.
927
00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:19,992
Did he, Eric?
928
00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:21,733
No.
929
00:38:21,734 --> 00:38:25,127
In fact, despite
what Josh told this jury
930
00:38:25,128 --> 00:38:27,956
in his sworn testimony,
he never told you
931
00:38:27,957 --> 00:38:30,350
that he thought your father was
gonna kill him, did he?
932
00:38:33,702 --> 00:38:37,357
No. He never said that.
933
00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:38,968
He, uh...
934
00:38:40,927 --> 00:38:43,276
He never said that
he thought that
935
00:38:43,277 --> 00:38:45,104
our father was gonna kill him.
936
00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:50,544
Nothing further.
937
00:38:54,897 --> 00:38:58,291
Members of the jury,
have you agreed upon a verdict?
938
00:38:58,292 --> 00:38:59,815
We have.
939
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:05,646
We find the defendant,
Josh Hunter,
940
00:39:05,647 --> 00:39:07,953
guilty of murder
in the second degree.
941
00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:11,304
Thank you for your service.
942
00:39:11,305 --> 00:39:12,610
We are adjourned.
943
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,426
Eric.
944
00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:49,298
Look, man, you got
what you wanted, all right?
945
00:39:49,299 --> 00:39:51,910
Now, please, leave me alone.
946
00:39:51,911 --> 00:39:55,827
Whatever you are thinking
or feeling right now,
947
00:39:55,828 --> 00:39:58,786
your father did not
deserve to die.
948
00:39:58,787 --> 00:40:03,617
Don't blame yourself
for what your brother did.
949
00:40:03,618 --> 00:40:05,533
Yeah, well,
it's not that easy.
950
00:40:11,191 --> 00:40:12,452
I get it.
951
00:40:12,453 --> 00:40:14,498
I do.
952
00:40:14,499 --> 00:40:16,456
I had a brother.
953
00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:19,024
He's gone now.
He overdosed.
954
00:40:19,025 --> 00:40:20,808
And I always asked myself
if there's more
955
00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:22,288
that I could have done
to prevent that.
956
00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:23,811
But the truth is,
957
00:40:23,812 --> 00:40:27,249
he was a grown man,
958
00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:30,166
and he made
his own tragic choices.
959
00:40:31,472 --> 00:40:33,169
You really believe that?
960
00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:38,347
The strong protect the weak.
961
00:40:38,348 --> 00:40:40,393
That's how the world works.
962
00:40:40,394 --> 00:40:42,700
Well, that's how it's
supposed to work anyway.
963
00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:45,790
I failed Josh, man.
964
00:40:45,791 --> 00:40:48,401
It's as simple as that.
965
00:40:48,402 --> 00:40:50,969
And unlike you,
966
00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:54,190
I will never be able
to forgive myself for that.
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